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Speaker 1: This podcast is presented by YETI Built for the While.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to Cutting the Distance podcast. I hope you've

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Speaker 1: been enjoying some of the stuff we've been talking about recently,

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Speaker 1: a little bit of small games. I'm still hunting. If

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Speaker 1: you haven't listened to those, go back check them out

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Speaker 1: for me. The small game season just ended yesterday. The

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Speaker 1: last weekend of upland bird season was this weekend in Nevada,

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Speaker 1: So me and my wife actually went out with a

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Speaker 1: couple of friends, Mike and Dan, and we chased some chucker.

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Speaker 1: It was a lot of fun, it was a lot

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Speaker 1: of work. My wife did great. She shot her first checker,

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Speaker 1: so that was something to really celebrate about. One thing

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Speaker 1: growing up hunting chucker. You just kind of think that

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Speaker 1: bird hunting is one of the toughest time so you

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Speaker 1: can do, because I think after I've done a lot

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Speaker 1: of big game hunts this year, and that was probably

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Speaker 1: one of the more physically demanding hunts you can do

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Speaker 1: because you're walking all day, it's rough terrain, a lot

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Speaker 1: I almost got a limit one shy and it wasn't

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Speaker 1: for lack of birds. I mean, in full disclosure, I

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Speaker 1: was just not making the best shots, but I got

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Speaker 1: a few birds. We walked out of there with quite

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Speaker 1: a great weekend. But this week, what I'm going to

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Speaker 1: talk about is the questions that you guys have. So

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Speaker 1: what I like to do is, at least once a

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Speaker 1: a few of the questions that you guys send me

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Speaker 1: and go over those, because I think that there's a

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Speaker 1: lot of tips and tactics in those questions that are

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Speaker 1: for maybe something that I am missing or haven't talked

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Speaker 1: about yet, maybe people need clarification, and then there's probably

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Speaker 1: just a lot of stuff that's applicable for a lot

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Speaker 1: out of different people or different scenarios. So I like

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Speaker 1: to just go through and answer a few questions. We'll

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Speaker 1: just started off. I'm going to kind of run through

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Speaker 1: bullet point questions here, a lot of the questions that

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Speaker 1: you guys email in. Now, if you are listening to this,

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Speaker 1: you're like, well, where did I send my questions at?

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Speaker 1: You can always send them into MA via social media

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Speaker 1: on my Instagram at Remy Warren or Remy at the

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Speaker 1: meat eat dot com. So that's the email for this.

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Speaker 1: A lot of them here from there, and some of

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Speaker 1: them I either reply to or get read on the podcast.

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Speaker 1: So feel free to send your questions in Now. This

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Speaker 1: first question, I think is probably will resonate with a

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Speaker 1: lot of people because I do specifically a lot of

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Speaker 1: my podcast based on Western big game hunting, mountain hunting,

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Speaker 1: that kind of stuff. That's my bread and butter, that's

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Speaker 1: my wheelhouse. But I think a lot of the tips,

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Speaker 1: I mean, I've hunted a lot of white tails in

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Speaker 1: these tips can also be translated to white tail hunting,

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Speaker 1: especially when you're talking white tail hunting in thicker cover.

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Speaker 1: So this question comes from Kel Jackson. He says, big fan,

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Speaker 1: any tips for guys like me who hunt dense public lands,

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Speaker 1: And then he had a little bit of a story,

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Speaker 1: So he's pretty much asking for some tips on hunting

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Speaker 1: you can't spot in stock in that way where still

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Speaker 1: tails in areas where it's like I can't. A lot

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Speaker 1: I find the deer bedding. Now you might think, well,

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Speaker 1: there's just a lot of different ways to hunt that.

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Speaker 1: You might not want to try that during the middle

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Speaker 1: might it might work where you're at, but also just

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Speaker 1: your plan accordingly. The next question comes from Jeff from Arizona.

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Speaker 1: So he says, Hey, remy great podcast on still Hunting

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Speaker 1: this week. Thanks for making a question. What do you

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Speaker 1: consider perfect quiver size for wide open Arizona Muli's I

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Speaker 1: have a G five six arrow quiver, but I'm wondering

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Speaker 1: if I'm touting more than I need sometimes. Yeah, So

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Speaker 1: to continue hunt backcountry hunt, I like to bring more arrows.

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Speaker 1: You never know what's going to happen. I have gone.

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Speaker 1: I started out hunting with three arrows. Now I carry

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Speaker 1: seven arrows, so I've been all over the spectrum. The

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Speaker 1: something that everybody needs, but some of the areas that

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Speaker 1: have that quiver, one of the main reasons. But I

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Speaker 1: think that a five arrow quiver is fine. There's no

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Speaker 1: real reason. If you want a smaller quiver, go for it,

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Speaker 1: go three arrow. I don't think it really makes that

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Speaker 1: a stabilizer off the other side, like a backbar on

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Speaker 1: your bow. I've done that before. But for the most part,

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Speaker 1: that's what you've got, it probably works fine. But you

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Speaker 1: don't necessarily need five arrows of course. Okay, Pete asked.

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Speaker 1: He says, just started cutting the distance. Great podcast so far.

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Speaker 1: Do you have any recommendations for good entry level spotting

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Speaker 1: scope for my first d I y L hunt this fall?

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Speaker 1: So I would suggest for a good entry level spotting scope.

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Speaker 1: You know, Vortex is a company that I work with,

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Speaker 1: so I'm familiar with their products and I've used a

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Speaker 1: lot of their products. They've got three levels of optics,

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Speaker 1: so they've got their diamond Back series, their Viper series,

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Speaker 1: which is their mid range, and then the Razor series. Honestly,

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Speaker 1: I've used the diamond Back. It's the sixty power with

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Speaker 1: the sixty mill objective lens. I've used to that scope

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Speaker 1: quite a bit and it's actually really good scope. It's

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Speaker 1: kind of shades it and keeps it a little bit cooler. Now,

432
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Speaker 1: if it's really hot out, I would definitely on rabbits,

433
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Speaker 1: I'll just gut them right there. So I'll just cut

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Speaker 1: a little slit in the belly, pull all the guts out,

435
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Speaker 1: and go. I've even done that with upland birds early

436
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Speaker 1: or ducks in the marsh. If I'm like I'm gonna

437
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Speaker 1: be out there for a while it's warm, I just

438
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Speaker 1: make sure to keep them in the shade. I may

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Speaker 1: get them, but if there's a lot of flies around,

440
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Speaker 1: I actually just don't because I don't want flies creating

441
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Speaker 1: a mess going in making laying some eggs and all

442
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Speaker 1: that stuff. But for the most part, just keep them

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Speaker 1: out of the shade and somewhere cool. On a day

444
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Speaker 1: like fifty degree weather, you're you're perfectly fine. Now when

445
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Speaker 1: you get back to the truck, especially if it's a

446
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Speaker 1: warm day, I'll definitely process it right there when I

447
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Speaker 1: get back. Skin it um. You can use your tailgate,

448
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Speaker 1: maybe even have a little pitcher stations set up. We

449
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Speaker 1: always have all of our stuff with us, whether it's

450
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Speaker 1: like I use a lot of shears for processing small games,

451
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Speaker 1: so shears or knife some baggies. You don't have to

452
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Speaker 1: get them super clean, but it's just nice to cut

453
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Speaker 1: it up, get it clean, and then you can put

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Speaker 1: it in a cooler. And that's what I do now.

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Speaker 1: If you live pretty close, you could also wait till

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Speaker 1: you get home. But a lot of times for most

457
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Speaker 1: small game stuff, I will at least get it in

458
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Speaker 1: the field if I can't, if I'm not gonna pluck it.

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Speaker 1: If as the ducks or something and I'm gonna plug

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Speaker 1: them at home, I like to plug them first and

461
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Speaker 1: then get them. But that's up to you. For the

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Speaker 1: most part small game animals, especially in not super hot weather.

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Speaker 1: You've got plenty of time. You should be fine. Now,

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Speaker 1: I wouldn't really worry about in this In this particular one,

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Speaker 1: you said, got it dirty and some hair and stuff.

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Speaker 1: The meat will still be fine. Just let an air out,

467
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Speaker 1: clean it up. When you get home. You can. You

468
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Speaker 1: can wash it off. Just make sure you dry it

469
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Speaker 1: before you store it. So what I'll do is I'll

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Speaker 1: wash it off in the sink under cold water, get

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Speaker 1: the dirt and any hair off. You can even use

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Speaker 1: a torch to singe the hair if you want, and

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Speaker 1: then wash it again, and then just put it in

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Speaker 1: the fridge and you should be fine. There's actually three

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Speaker 1: questions here, so Jordan wrote three really good questions. I

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Speaker 1: really liked some of these. They're great questions, but I

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Speaker 1: think I can answer them fairly quickly. Here. So he

478
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Speaker 1: says on the podcast and in Solo Hunter, you leave

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Speaker 1: your pack and shoes behind a lot. I know that's

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Speaker 1: advantageous for being stealthy, but does it ever impede your

481
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Speaker 1: ability or ability to make a move on an animal

482
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Speaker 1: because you're caught between your pack and the animal. I

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Speaker 1: think what he maybe means by that is you're you're

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Speaker 1: thinking like, okay, I can't leave my pack here the

485
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Speaker 1: whole time the animals moving off. That happens a lot

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Speaker 1: where I'm stalking in and then the animal moves and

487
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Speaker 1: it's like, well, I go back and grab my pack

488
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Speaker 1: or do I just continue restocking. It's very situational. Now.

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Speaker 1: I also really take my shoes off and my pack

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Speaker 1: off in situations where the animals pretty stationary, and it

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Speaker 1: just it just depends on how everything's set up. Sometimes

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Speaker 1: I end up stalking and not taking my pack or

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Speaker 1: shoes off. If it's more of an ambush stock where

494
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Speaker 1: the animals moving, I'm trying to get into position. I

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Speaker 1: don't have time, like I gotta be there while the

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Speaker 1: animals there. Then I just prefer to say, Okay, I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna sacrifice a little bit of stealth for just being

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Speaker 1: mobile and not having to worry about going back. Now.

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Speaker 1: A lot of times I'll what I will do is

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Speaker 1: I'll have my Onyx maps ready to go, and if

501
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Speaker 1: it's something where I might be moving a lot, I'll

502
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Speaker 1: definitely drop a pin on where I dropped my shoes

503
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Speaker 1: in my pack. But I've gone as far as two

504
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Speaker 1: miles without my stuff. Now, I do carry what I

505
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Speaker 1: like to call a pocket water, because I sometimes will

506
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Speaker 1: put like a small water bottle or some form of

507
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Speaker 1: water in my pocket, and I always have my flashlight

508
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Speaker 1: or head lamp in my pocket as well. If I

509
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Speaker 1: dropped my pack, I want to make sure that I

510
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Speaker 1: have a couple of things that I may need in

511
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Speaker 1: case I go a little bit further or the stock

512
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Speaker 1: takes longer than I was expecting. So that's always good,

513
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Speaker 1: but there are those times where you think, okay, it's moved,

514
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Speaker 1: but then you have to really assess the stock and say, okay,

515
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Speaker 1: if I continue now, am I just pushing it? Am

516
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Speaker 1: I trying too hard? When I can just pull back,

517
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Speaker 1: give it a minute, and reset and figure out a

518
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Speaker 1: better way to stock. Because sometimes you get in the

519
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Speaker 1: moment you just keep chasing, chasing, chasing, and pushing it

520
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Speaker 1: in a way that because you're so close, you're rushing

521
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Speaker 1: and you aren't making the best stock possible. So in

522
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Speaker 1: those situations, I think, Okay, I'm gonna go back, grab

523
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Speaker 1: my shoes, grab my pack, and really think about this.

524
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Speaker 1: Maybe there's a better way to do this. The second

525
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Speaker 1: question was you did an episode on Fire and how

526
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Speaker 1: to hunt burns. Do you treat log dairy is the

527
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Speaker 1: same way? Yes, I definitely do. If you live in

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Speaker 1: in big timber country like an Oregon, Washington, a lot

529
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Speaker 1: of places in Idaho, I mean even places I would

530
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Speaker 1: even imagine in the northeast or other areas. They're logged

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Speaker 1: areas create great habitat for elk, but also for deer

532
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Speaker 1: because they create that new growth in that new brows.

533
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Speaker 1: Now a clear cut might be an eyesore, but it

534
00:26:18,520 --> 00:26:22,840
Speaker 1: definitely builds habitat, It bolsters populations for a lot of animals,

535
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Speaker 1: and it's a great place to hunt. I do target

536
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Speaker 1: clear cuts quite often, especially in heavily timbered areas. Clear

537
00:26:30,040 --> 00:26:32,520
Speaker 1: Cuts are are go to for me. I treat it

538
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Speaker 1: just like a burn. So if you're in an area

539
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Speaker 1: where there's not a lot of burns but there's a

540
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Speaker 1: lot of clear cuts, that's a great place to hunt.

541
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Speaker 1: It's a great place to start. Even areas that have

542
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Speaker 1: been thinned where they aren't completely clear cut, but they're

543
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Speaker 1: thinned and logged out. I found those to be really

544
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Speaker 1: productive because they get better grass growth underneath, yet they

545
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Speaker 1: still provide shelter and everything that animals need for good habitat,

546
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Speaker 1: So those are some awesome areas the key into. And

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Speaker 1: I actually saw that Onyx has a timber cuts overlay

548
00:27:01,560 --> 00:27:03,960
Speaker 1: as well, just very similar to the fire overlay, so

549
00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:06,280
Speaker 1: I'll probably that actually might be a good one to

550
00:27:06,320 --> 00:27:10,160
Speaker 1: talk about the future is hunting some timbered logged areas,

551
00:27:10,600 --> 00:27:13,159
Speaker 1: because I do hunt those a lot. It's very successful.

552
00:27:14,720 --> 00:27:16,840
Speaker 1: The third question is I have no moral issues with

553
00:27:16,920 --> 00:27:19,719
Speaker 1: shooting a betted animal, but I've heard and seen shots

554
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Speaker 1: go wrong because vitals and muscles can be a little

555
00:27:22,040 --> 00:27:26,160
Speaker 1: different position when the animal is bedded verse standing. How

556
00:27:26,200 --> 00:27:29,160
Speaker 1: do you treat a bedded animal to ensure a clean kill.

557
00:27:29,400 --> 00:27:32,560
Speaker 1: That's a really good question. Now it's kind of a

558
00:27:32,560 --> 00:27:35,440
Speaker 1: funny thing where some people think, oh, it's not ethical

559
00:27:35,520 --> 00:27:38,920
Speaker 1: to shoot a bedded animal, but it's very situational. I

560
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Speaker 1: think if you just throw blanket ethics over everything and say, oh,

561
00:27:42,040 --> 00:27:44,520
Speaker 1: it's betted, so you shouldn't shoot it, that's not always

562
00:27:44,560 --> 00:27:47,280
Speaker 1: the case. Sometimes you get a better shot on an

563
00:27:47,320 --> 00:27:51,280
Speaker 1: animal that's betted. It's not alert, it's not moving. It's

564
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Speaker 1: vitals might be perfectly exposed, while in animals laying down,

565
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Speaker 1: their vitals are moved in different positions. Sometimes the shoulder

566
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Speaker 1: protects it. But there are shots on bedded animals that

567
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Speaker 1: can be an extremely clean, ethical kill, and I don't

568
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Speaker 1: think that there's any It doesn't make it give the

569
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Speaker 1: animal any less advantage because it's it's laying down. So

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Speaker 1: there's a lot of times that I've taken a shot

571
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Speaker 1: on an animal that's bedded. What I do do, though,

572
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Speaker 1: is if I'm going to take a bedded shot, I

573
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Speaker 1: really analyze it because you if you're taking a shot

574
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Speaker 1: on an animal that's bedded, you probably have a lot

575
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Speaker 1: more time. I'll only take a bedded shot if I

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Speaker 1: have a clear line of side of the vitals, and

577
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Speaker 1: you kind of have to understand the way that the

578
00:28:32,760 --> 00:28:35,880
Speaker 1: animals laying so a mule deer. I actually just did

579
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Speaker 1: a deer hunt this year where I shot a bedded

580
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Speaker 1: deer with my bow in Nevada is on a ridge

581
00:28:41,440 --> 00:28:46,720
Speaker 1: reeper film. But that deer provided a perfect, clean broadside shot.

582
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Speaker 1: I had a spot that I could aim at, and

583
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Speaker 1: I looked at it closely with my binoculars to see

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Speaker 1: where the bone structure of the shoulder was before shooting.

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Speaker 1: That's something that I'll do a lot on a bedded animal,

586
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Speaker 1: even if i'm bow hunting, I'll use my binoculars at

587
00:29:00,920 --> 00:29:04,680
Speaker 1: that close range because you can actually see the ribs,

588
00:29:04,720 --> 00:29:07,080
Speaker 1: you can see the shoulder, you can really see a

589
00:29:07,080 --> 00:29:11,080
Speaker 1: lot of the definition by looking up close at close range.

590
00:29:11,520 --> 00:29:13,719
Speaker 1: And then I can say, okay, here's where I'm going

591
00:29:13,760 --> 00:29:17,360
Speaker 1: to aim. Now if it's quartering. To me, it's really

592
00:29:17,440 --> 00:29:21,880
Speaker 1: hard to make a successful or ethical quartering two betted shot,

593
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Speaker 1: So I try to find those shots where okay, he's betted,

594
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Speaker 1: I can maybe move and shoot quartering away or broadside.

595
00:29:27,880 --> 00:29:29,800
Speaker 1: I see where is the way he's laying and where

596
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Speaker 1: his vitals might be, and I really just pick a

597
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Speaker 1: good spot, analyze the shot, and shoot It's it's no

598
00:29:36,560 --> 00:29:38,960
Speaker 1: different than an animal it's standing. You have to really

599
00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:41,440
Speaker 1: analyze where you're gonna shoot, pick the right spot, and

600
00:29:41,520 --> 00:29:43,920
Speaker 1: hit the right spot. But it can definitely be done

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Speaker 1: ethically and successfully on a bedded animal for sure. That's

602
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Speaker 1: all the questions for this week, but as always, feel

603
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Speaker 1: free to write any questions, and if I if I

604
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Speaker 1: didn't answer some of your questions you might have, feel

605
00:29:57,720 --> 00:29:59,800
Speaker 1: free to write him in. You can reach me at

606
00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:02,640
Speaker 1: Remy at the meat eat dot com, or you can

607
00:30:02,680 --> 00:30:05,560
Speaker 1: always get me on social media as well at Remy Warren.

608
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Speaker 1: I generally try to most of the ones that I

609
00:30:09,320 --> 00:30:11,480
Speaker 1: reply to you on social media. It's just easier for me.

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Speaker 1: But please keep sending the emails in because those are

611
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Speaker 1: generally the ones that get read on the podcast. If

612
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Speaker 1: you have a question you think a lot of people

613
00:30:17,960 --> 00:30:21,560
Speaker 1: might want to hear about, shoot us an email at

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Speaker 1: Remy at the meat Eater dot com and I'll try

615
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Speaker 1: to get to as many of them as possible. Also,

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Speaker 1: just keep them flowing, because it would be nice to

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Speaker 1: add a couple of them to some of the other

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Speaker 1: podcasts as well. I love just hearing from you guys.

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Speaker 1: I've said it a million times, but I'll say it

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Speaker 1: a million one times maybe well, and then a million more.

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Speaker 1: This is really just to help make you better hunters.

622
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Speaker 1: So if you have ideas on podcasts you'd like to

623
00:30:46,840 --> 00:30:49,320
Speaker 1: hear things that you want to know about, I just

624
00:30:49,400 --> 00:30:51,800
Speaker 1: compile all that and then I start talking about it.

625
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Speaker 1: So some of the stuff about the new Hunters, some

626
00:30:54,440 --> 00:30:57,840
Speaker 1: of the small game stuff, it's all from everybody that listens.

627
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Speaker 1: So I want to make sure that there's stuff out

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00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:02,520
Speaker 1: there that you're hearing. And I think some some of

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Speaker 1: the things that I've been seeing a lot stuff from

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Speaker 1: guys in New Zealand and Australia about some of the

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00:31:06,800 --> 00:31:10,080
Speaker 1: species there. So I think in coming episodes it's gonna

632
00:31:10,080 --> 00:31:13,120
Speaker 1: be fun to maybe talk about some different species where

633
00:31:13,160 --> 00:31:15,280
Speaker 1: you got the guys from over there, gotta listen to

634
00:31:15,280 --> 00:31:17,440
Speaker 1: all of the species from over here. But I think

635
00:31:17,440 --> 00:31:20,360
Speaker 1: a lot of the tactics are transferable, so I'm gonna

636
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Speaker 1: talk about some different stuff. I've got a lot of

637
00:31:22,800 --> 00:31:26,000
Speaker 1: questions that I didn't talk about yet on spring Bears

638
00:31:26,040 --> 00:31:29,040
Speaker 1: and and a lot of seasonal things, some applications stuff.

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Speaker 1: So until next week, keep the emails rolling. See up