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Speaker 1: The Around the NFL Podcast is searching for Tom Brady's jersey.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to another edition of the Around the NFL Podcast.

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Speaker 1: My name is Dan Jnsis and I am joined by

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Speaker 1: a room filled with heroes, Mark Sessler, Chris Westling, and

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Speaker 1: Greg Rosato. What's up, boys? Hey Dan back in Culver

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Speaker 1: City from Houston altogether as a group our first show

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Speaker 1: since the Super Bowl fifty one uh super podcast, which

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Speaker 1: by the way, is the number one downloaded podcast in

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Speaker 1: the history of NFL media. So thank you to everyone

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Speaker 1: who said, hey, I want an informed hot take on

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Speaker 1: one of the greatest games in Super Bowl history. Let

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Speaker 1: me go to some fu Saucy White. How many downloads?

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Speaker 1: I don't like to say the number, it's just a lot.

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Speaker 1: Is informed hot take an oxy moron? Uh No, Actually,

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Speaker 1: I think you can have a hot take that's logical.

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Speaker 1: And this is my opinion, this is the most downloaded

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Speaker 1: by far. This is like, this is like a three

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Speaker 1: lead except you know, we're not blowing this like, oh,

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Speaker 1: it's never coming back super Bowl like the Mash Series finale. Rights. Okay,

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Speaker 1: I mean the numbers were so jarring that my first

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Speaker 1: thought was technical glitch, that it's not accurate. The number

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Speaker 1: is seven million down, which we are so so proud. Uh.

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Speaker 1: And you know I took a couple of days off

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Speaker 1: after the super Bowl, and I spent half of one

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Speaker 1: of my off days fielding media requests after I broke

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Speaker 1: the story on Tom Brady's jersey. Uh, that is how

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Speaker 1: that is the tenor of the off season. You're that

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Speaker 1: you're beginning, which is essentially Dan promoting Dan Walt Wall

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Speaker 1: cut to ten thirty. This morning, guys, I gotta go

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Speaker 1: upstairs and tape something. Uh. Oh is that how I talk?

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Speaker 1: I don't even know if I did ask for permission

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Speaker 1: that I would this morning? What happened this morning? I

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Speaker 1: don't have any idea what you're referring to. Whoa what

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Speaker 1: are you referring to? That felt like a slight, But

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Speaker 1: this morning you said I have to go and do

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Speaker 1: something for the poet. Well, but mine was not just

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Speaker 1: It wasn't just a giant, one minute long SoundBite about Mark.

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Speaker 1: It included it's another human being other than just myself.

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Speaker 1: Is Sydney with a test to see Mark likes the

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Speaker 1: shield his ego, but we all it's all there. Well,

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Speaker 1: you can frame it however you'd like, speaking of Mark

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Speaker 1: and his ego, he wrote a banger that we're going

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Speaker 1: to talk about today. UM and I like this idea,

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Speaker 1: this conceit Mark and I you know every word I enjoyed.

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Speaker 1: H it is the UM storylines will be tracking and

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Speaker 1: we're excited to track this offseason other than Tony Romo.

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Speaker 1: Obviously that will be the dominant storyline in a lot

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Speaker 1: of ways, but that is something else, including a bonus

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Speaker 1: section of ten storylines I refuse to report on covious

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Speaker 1: follow up question here is, Mark, is there any offseason

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Speaker 1: storyline that you could possibly be excited to monitor? The

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Speaker 1: word excited was a tad strong, But you know you've

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Speaker 1: got a role with the the assignment as it's giving.

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Speaker 1: I see it in your copy. I'm excited it is

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Speaker 1: I guess it is this. It is in It is

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Speaker 1: relative to Tony Romo, excited relative to Hi to do

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Speaker 1: four thousand? What's not in the copy? Yes, it is?

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Speaker 1: Read it in a world all right, here's the copy

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Speaker 1: in a world beyond Romo. Here's what I'm excited to

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Speaker 1: track this. So I think it just as you're excited,

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Speaker 1: that sounds like it's in the copy. We uh we

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Speaker 1: we We liked the topic so much we did a

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Speaker 1: segment about it on Friday. It's gonna be on Friday's

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Speaker 1: weekly that they give us a few minutes here, so

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Speaker 1: people should watch up to the Minute live four o'clock.

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Speaker 1: He Stern, nice plug, excellent, Greg, NFL networks, Greg Rosenthal

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Speaker 1: in fact coverage Greg Rosenthal, Well, isn't up to the

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Speaker 1: minute on NFL network. This is where you get this

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Speaker 1: little bit from right And then you're about you guys

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Speaker 1: just saying, does that you know? Well, you all need

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Speaker 1: your own Well, hold on, let's turn it around. Do

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Speaker 1: you feel a little annoyed that we're now joining you

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Speaker 1: on NFL Network? I think, honestly, I think it's nice

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Speaker 1: Actually I looked over. I peeked into Greg's cubicle when

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Speaker 1: we'll be talking about those offseason storylines to track. We

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Speaker 1: I would say most of the room is very excited

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Speaker 1: about this segment. I turned to Greg. He's just nodding

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Speaker 1: number five, But we'll get to that. Uh, and we'll

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Speaker 1: the Falcons and Super Bowl fifty one. Chris Wesling wrote

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Speaker 1: a Banker there. But before we do any of that,

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Speaker 1: let's start with the news. And to do that, we

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Speaker 1: checked behind the Glass with New Money. Uh so good

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Speaker 1: to see her again, the first lady of the Around

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Speaker 1: the NFL podcast. How are you Money? Good? Hey guys,

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Speaker 1: missed you missed? You too? Missed my board? How did

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Speaker 1: do everything? Post? Last week? Was terrible? Wearing a cool

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Speaker 1: Around the NFL shirt? Right? Sorry? Yeah, I got some swag. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: big things happened while we were gone. Big thanks for

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Speaker 1: staying up till about two pm, if not later three pm,

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Speaker 1: three am in the am. That happened on the night

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Speaker 1: of the Super Bowl show. I mean, you know, that's

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Speaker 1: how you get sacrifice, That's how you get up a

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Speaker 1: Mount Rushmore. But I mean that's all. I mean. It wasn't.

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Speaker 1: It wasn't. I'm sure. Why are you about to Why

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Speaker 1: are you about to marginalize what I know? I'm not.

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Speaker 1: All I'm gonna say is I will never forget Mark

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Speaker 1: Sessler showing up at the airport still in his suit

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Speaker 1: from the night before at seven in the morning or whatnot? After? Well,

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Speaker 1: you just left my hotel room. Well that's I wish

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Speaker 1: I had. Do you guys? Drink you were there, PEPSI

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Speaker 1: Let's start in San Francisco where a new brain trust

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Speaker 1: is in place. Kyle Shanahan, who was most recently seen

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Speaker 1: UM blowing the Super Bowl with the rest of the

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Speaker 1: Atlanta and UH, listen, just let's keep it real around here.

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Speaker 1: John Lynch, to the new general manager, who was UH

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Speaker 1: two men were on a daist together discussing the new

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Speaker 1: also on hand, the team owner UH. He was quoted saying,

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Speaker 1: I believe in these guys. We aren't where we want

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Speaker 1: because six year contracts are not that up common and gentlemen.

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Speaker 1: One of the questions that came from the Bay Area Press,

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Speaker 1: Of course, I think there's things that we could have

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Speaker 1: a long rebuilding job. It's not gonna happen as quick

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Speaker 1: playoffs got really great ratings this year. They really did.

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Speaker 1: For instance, the NFC Championship was watched by forties six

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Speaker 1: million people and the Packers secondary. All right, now let's

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Speaker 1: react as if we had heard it. Glorious. Wow to

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Speaker 1: quote Mark Sessler, excellent showmanship. You weren't wrong, Greg, You

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Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. All right, Josh McCown released by

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Speaker 1: the Browns. Uh, it didn't work out for Josh was

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Speaker 1: always hurt and uh then here comes the predictable bit. Uh,

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Speaker 1: there's the quarterback of the Jets. Good one. I hope not,

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Speaker 1: because he's always hurt and he's not that good and

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Speaker 1: he's old. Well, if there is going to be, as

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Speaker 1: we mentioned on our NFL Network segment of potential bidding

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Speaker 1: war for Jimmy Garoppolo, I think there'll be a little

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Speaker 1: bit of a bidding war in coaching staffs to get

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Speaker 1: Josh McCown. Is it's a quarterback coach. While you laugh,

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Speaker 1: but uh, it is someone that has been talked about

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Speaker 1: by multiple guys out there as a coach in the making.

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Speaker 1: He was a coach as a coach. He wants to play.

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Speaker 1: That's why he's leaving Cleveland. Well, he'll he'll play for there.

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Speaker 1: But but if he can't get a job or if

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Speaker 1: he doesn't like that and he is going to be

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Speaker 1: a valued coach, good coach in the NFL. I got

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Speaker 1: a plan the Browns franchise McCown like that and then

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Speaker 1: trade him for a first round pick. I mean, that

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Speaker 1: would be great if that's how you went. Franchise a

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Speaker 1: guy you've just released. Well, no, you you take that back,

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Speaker 1: you pull it off the wire. Franchise him, make him

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Speaker 1: a top five paid quarterback. Because what you franchise somebody?

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Speaker 1: You can trade him, right you could? I mean you

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Speaker 1: tag and you know, Dan, this is not for your

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Speaker 1: front office. Uh, you know, potential work speaking of it,

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Speaker 1: you know annual bit. Uh, you know you've got your

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Speaker 1: gradual decline of Tom Brady. Eventually you'll be right about

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Speaker 1: inverse of that bit though, is Chris Wesley's Ash mccount

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Speaker 1: will eventually be good again. Bit. And that's I don't

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Speaker 1: know if that's gonna end up being true. There are

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Speaker 1: two things going in opposite directions. But both creating uh

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Speaker 1: moving ONSH McCown still a better quarterback than some quarterbacks

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Speaker 1: who start in the end of the player. I'm sorry

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Speaker 1: you missed the Blake Bortles and brock Osweller seasons this year. Uh.

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Speaker 1: Justin Gilbert another former Brown. Uh he has been let

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Speaker 1: go by the Pittsburgh Steelers a short, uneventful stay there.

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Speaker 1: And is this another former Brown Quell Jackson? Um he

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Speaker 1: is no longer with the Cults. Uh. They were. They

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Speaker 1: cut the linebacker after he signed for a nice amount

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Speaker 1: of money. I believe in two thousand fourteen, now thirty

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Speaker 1: three years old. One thing Joe Thomas I thought had

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Speaker 1: the best way to sum up Justin Gilbert's career in

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Speaker 1: Cleveland and Pittsburgh, he tweeted. And Joe Thomas, by the way,

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Speaker 1: not holding back on Twitter or in general with his comments.

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Speaker 1: I like his honest. He said, if you don't like football,

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Speaker 1: it doesn't matter how talented you are, your star will

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Speaker 1: burn out quick. And Justin Gilbert was so poorly scouted

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Speaker 1: by the Browns that they never actually met in person

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Speaker 1: to find out where his passion level was. And that's

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Speaker 1: why that team is picking first in the draft right

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Speaker 1: now there you go. And finally in the news um

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Speaker 1: in Transfer of power, news Bob Costas being replaced by

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Speaker 1: Mike Tariko, my boy as NBC's Olympics host. Uh. That

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Speaker 1: ends a Costas tenure. Mark pay special attention. Uh that

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Speaker 1: spends way back to ninety two as the Olympics guy,

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Speaker 1: but into the eighties with NBC. And here is a

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Speaker 1: statement from Costas, who's handled this pretty well. I believe

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Speaker 1: it has been both a privilege and an incredible personal

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Speaker 1: and professional experience to have been part of NBC's Olympic

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Speaker 1: coverage all these years. I'm especially appreciative of all the

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Speaker 1: talented and dedicated people I worked for and with on

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Speaker 1: those broadcasts. Class act Mark as he steps to the

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Speaker 1: shadows forever. Well, he has no bigger fan than Mike Tarko. Well,

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Speaker 1: well no, but but I think the thing is that

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Speaker 1: here he reminds me a little bit of at the

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Speaker 1: end of Al Davis's career, when when everyone went click

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Speaker 1: baity and like, look how terrible Al Davis looks and

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Speaker 1: what a joke he is, and his actual the substance

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Speaker 1: of his career completely forgotten unless you were of a

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Speaker 1: certain age, and he remembered the bulk of his work.

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Speaker 1: And I'll tell you why, because everyone all the time

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Speaker 1: he's he's an easy target, and I get it. But

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Speaker 1: Bob Costas was one of the youngest people ever hired

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Speaker 1: to announce Major League Baseball. He blew it out of

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Speaker 1: the park. He did a great job. He was one

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Speaker 1: of the better broadcasters of all time. I don't think

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Speaker 1: I grew up watching him. And I know the four

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Speaker 1: of us like to three of us out of the

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Speaker 1: flour like a joke about it. West doesn't. West thinks

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Speaker 1: it's idiotic, but well, West is mystified by it, understandably.

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Speaker 1: I I honestly think that guys like Costas, guys like

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Speaker 1: Al Michael, some of these guys that are at the

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Speaker 1: end of their career, a lot of people in sports

513
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Speaker 1: media journalism would not be here if it were not

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Speaker 1: the prime of their careers and what we and in

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Speaker 1: how they made you love sports more. Bob Costas I

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Speaker 1: grew up, I loved football more because of what he

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Speaker 1: did on NFL, NFL Live back on NBC and the

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Speaker 1: whole crew of them. So to me, yes, maybe I

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Speaker 1: overvalue him now his late work, but I wouldn't be

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Speaker 1: sitting here if it weren't for a collection of those guys, Marv, Albert,

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Speaker 1: the rest of them. They're all in cahoots. They love

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Speaker 1: each other because they know that they are good at

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Speaker 1: what they do. I love the analogy because Bob Costas

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Speaker 1: is a luminary in the broadcasting business, just like Al

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Speaker 1: Davis is one of the greatest figures in NFL history.

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Speaker 1: Now I'm picturing Bob Costas drafting JaMarcus Russell and Rolando

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Speaker 1: mclayan and then Marry and Lane Kiffin in a press conference.

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Speaker 1: Do you I'm gonna I'm gonna write the blog post

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Speaker 1: about Mark's speech and it will say Cessler Colan Costas.

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Speaker 1: I mean, this is Greg gregg Is. This is classic.

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Speaker 1: This is classic, like minor league post millennial nonsense from

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Speaker 1: Greg who basically has never ever appreciated Costs because he

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Speaker 1: he didn't you know what good? Did it? Good for you? Greg?

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Speaker 1: NFL Networks, Greg Rosenthal telling us how broadcasts this like

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Speaker 1: a like a late period Al Davis. That's that's the

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Speaker 1: head you. I I feel sorry for you, Greg that

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Speaker 1: you cannot appreciate what Bob cost Is brought to the

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Speaker 1: world of sports. Well, he's not leaving, he said he's

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Speaker 1: taking out a time. This is the right time. Well,

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Speaker 1: Tom Brokaw, who's on television about once every eighty days,

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Speaker 1: right now, it is the right time. And and NBC

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Speaker 1: had enough foresight to bring in what is the best

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Speaker 1: broadcaster of today. They're going from best to best. This

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Speaker 1: is this is Manning to Luck, this is Montana to

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Speaker 1: Steve Young. Do you do you still think that slice

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Speaker 1: me off a piece of that, Jake Bristy? Do you

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Speaker 1: still think that somebody is a bigger bobcast to spend

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Speaker 1: thing you though? After that? I I appreciate him. I

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Speaker 1: I it's maybe it's because I'm a little bit older

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Speaker 1: than than some of you guys, Like I don't I

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Speaker 1: understand the I love costas well. I've never detected that

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Speaker 1: on any level from you. But well that's breaking news.

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Speaker 1: Now he's breaking some news that I mean, I just

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Speaker 1: feel that it's just utterly on the on the inside.

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Speaker 1: Um no, I not his not late period Costs right

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Speaker 1: on the soapbox talking about gun control during Sunday night football, right,

557
00:29:27,080 --> 00:29:29,400
Speaker 1: you know that stuff. And that's why that stuffs from

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Speaker 1: like we have to move on. But that stuff is

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Speaker 1: was was fine in the nine eighties and early nineties,

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Speaker 1: and and what happened with him, And it's going to

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Speaker 1: happen to all four of us at some point too.

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Speaker 1: If it's not already happening, is you're not moving on

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Speaker 1: with the time, You're you're stuck at a certain period.

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Speaker 1: Those soapbox things don't fly with of the audience now

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Speaker 1: they did back in well exactly, things move on without

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Speaker 1: you if you don't adapt all right, less you wrote

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Speaker 1: a banger. What's about the uh NFL network in conjunction

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Speaker 1: with NFL films their sound effects, they wire up players

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Speaker 1: for many games during the season, but none there are

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Speaker 1: no more wires, the most wires, I should say. Come

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Speaker 1: on that final Sunday in February and you had some

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Speaker 1: takeaways from the sound effects edition of Super Bowl. I

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Speaker 1: must confess that when David Eally put this assignment on

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Speaker 1: my desk, I thought, I've never even seen the show

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Speaker 1: sound Effects. I'm not trying to watch it. I guess

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Speaker 1: I'll just go through the motions and write something. And

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Speaker 1: you know, somebody must have said something interesting. I'll write

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Speaker 1: that up. And then I kept a notebook throughout the program,

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Speaker 1: and it was a masterpiece. Theater of of Football broadcast

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Speaker 1: from NFL Films. I guess who who does this production?

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Speaker 1: And it was the anatomy of an epic comeback. Just

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Speaker 1: watching Julian ed Edelman is the star of the show,

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Speaker 1: chatting throughout the game. But you get to hear from

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Speaker 1: Tom Brady and there are several sound bites in here

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Speaker 1: that they might give you the chills a little bit.

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Speaker 1: Let's here some of them was queue it up their

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Speaker 1: new money. We go through multiple channels to get things

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Speaker 1: done here. Let's both scorn and when this thing baby

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Speaker 1: for your mom? For your mom, bro? Who's that? That

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00:31:13,200 --> 00:31:16,520
Speaker 1: was Julian Edelman right after the Patriots win the coin tossing,

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Speaker 1: turns to Tom Brady and says, for your mom, bro,

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Speaker 1: I get it. I mean the mom thing. I love

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Speaker 1: my mom. We all love our moms. Uh. But you

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Speaker 1: know it wasn't like if he would have thrown an interception,

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Speaker 1: which he very nearly did. By the way, Tom Brady,

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Speaker 1: what do it mean that he let his mom down? Now? Well,

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Speaker 1: I'm reigning on the frade a little bit. Let's hears

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Speaker 1: something else that else West. Let me set these up

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Speaker 1: that that's what that's what I was ting you're you're

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Speaker 1: a pro and I totally fum still have time. Let's

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Speaker 1: let's we could get this up. You down three, but

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Speaker 1: you gotta come back in you Mark set it up.

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Speaker 1: Here we go three. Let's hear from Tom Brady trying

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Speaker 1: to rally the troops after it's the three, let's not

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Speaker 1: let's that's like don for harder, tough for everything. We go.

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Speaker 1: H that was good. That was good. That reminds me

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Speaker 1: a lot. I'm trying to think of. It's one NFL

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Speaker 1: Films clip they use all the time. I actually said

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Speaker 1: it to you in the Super Bowl press box at

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Speaker 1: what one time. They always use it for Brady. We gonna,

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Speaker 1: we gonna lay down, we gotta fight like that. That's

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Speaker 1: the Tom Brady clip that they always used. Now they

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Speaker 1: can always And yeah, I saw that this morning. Actually

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Speaker 1: he's stalking up and down the sideline. His teammates are

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Speaker 1: sitting down, and I would think that makes a big

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Speaker 1: difference when you have the king number one guy in

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Speaker 1: your team. Uh A call to arms like that? What

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Speaker 1: else we got, Wes? That was good. That was when

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Speaker 1: the number one guy in our team, David really had

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Speaker 1: me start to write an article that went a thousand

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Speaker 1: words in and was never seen by another human being.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if it's gonna catch on, but Kevin

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Speaker 1: Patrick challenged me on my use of ankle catch for

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Speaker 1: Julian Edelman's catch, so I've come up with incredileman. Okay

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00:32:57,680 --> 00:32:59,600
Speaker 1: is the name of the catch. But here's what's cool.

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Speaker 1: When he as he's trying to pull it off of

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Speaker 1: Robert Alford's ankle, they catch him on Mike going I

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Speaker 1: caught it. I caught it while he's still in the

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Speaker 1: motion of catching it. Let's hear it said. It's him

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Speaker 1: and Brian Pool looking at opposing scoreboard screens, and Brian

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Speaker 1: pulled the falcon cornerback. It's like, no way, no way,

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Speaker 1: and he's like, no, I swear to God, I caught it.

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Speaker 1: I liked it. Made me think higher of Dante high Tower,

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Speaker 1: not that I didn't think high of him, but that

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Speaker 1: he was really like the vocal sort of leader of

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Speaker 1: that defense. And and at one point when I think

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Speaker 1: it was twenty to night, and he was just like,

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Speaker 1: no more, no more mistakes, no more my bads, Like

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Speaker 1: we have to be perfect now, there's no there's no

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Speaker 1: more margin of error at all. And that was basically

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Speaker 1: the point where he gets the sack fumble. I like

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Speaker 1: dot to hide tower. By the way, was that setting

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Speaker 1: up your last one? No? I still set up um.

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Speaker 1: He did not go to the raid because he said

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Speaker 1: he's had enough of cold and wind and rain and sleet,

646
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Speaker 1: which I get. It would be a terrible male man,

647
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Speaker 1: by the way, and he's not going to the White House. Uh,

648
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Speaker 1: but I don't know if that team is going to

649
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Speaker 1: the way I was. He want some sandwiches, um, but

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Speaker 1: either go to the White House for Obama either a

651
00:34:16,920 --> 00:34:18,719
Speaker 1: couple of years ago, so there's no political tie to that.

652
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Speaker 1: He just doesn't want to go. He already did it

653
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Speaker 1: with Alabama. And you have one more west right. Jackie

654
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Speaker 1: Slater Hall of Famer and Matthew Slater's father, passionately testifying

655
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Speaker 1: on Tom Brady's greatness. I got the best quarterback. I

656
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Speaker 1: wish I'd talked like that. I know it's no like

657
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Speaker 1: bar nine like a politics bring back bar none. Let's

658
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Speaker 1: start using it all the time. I want to talk better.

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Speaker 1: The best line in that whole episode, though, was most

660
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Speaker 1: Anu was one of the guys miked up, so you

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Speaker 1: see a lot of him and he's feeling his oats

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Speaker 1: in the second quarter, after Robert Alford's pick six, they

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Speaker 1: go up twenty one in and he says, they ain't

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Speaker 1: never met nothing like this, and he's talking to Taylor

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Speaker 1: Gabriel who has a nervous look in his eye, and

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Speaker 1: he goes, it's Tom Brady though, oh yeah, and he

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Speaker 1: goes he goes, We're gonna put forty up on them,

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Speaker 1: and he and Gabriel just like we got to. Hey,

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Speaker 1: if that didn't hook you in, um, here's the good

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Speaker 1: news if you if you if you're upset that you

671
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Speaker 1: missed it, this will be played seven millions this this

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Speaker 1: show every year. The hour long sound effects after the

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Speaker 1: super really is one of the best things NFL Films

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Speaker 1: does every year. It's always awesome. And the in the

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Speaker 1: saddest uh, The one that stuck with me the most

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Speaker 1: from that entire show was after Jake Matthews hold after

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Speaker 1: that play. You know, matt Ryan thinks he got them

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Speaker 1: into field goal range again and he just goes, he goes,

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Speaker 1: what the guys, He's like, did you hold? And he

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Speaker 1: asked lavitre that and Lavitri is like night and and

681
00:35:49,280 --> 00:35:51,719
Speaker 1: Matthews is just kind of a foot away from him

682
00:35:51,760 --> 00:35:55,200
Speaker 1: not saying anything, and it was tough rewatching this game.

683
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Speaker 1: I felt for Jake Matthews, for people that killed Kyle Shanahan.

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Speaker 1: I think Jake Matthews a couple of holding calls, a

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Speaker 1: lot of pressures if you're if you're looking for there's

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Speaker 1: a million different people that that struggled when they when

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Speaker 1: they collapse. But to me, Jake Matthews, especially in that

688
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Speaker 1: offensive line, is going to be living with that for

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Speaker 1: the rest of his I'll have an end around column

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Speaker 1: tomorrow about the different things that the Falcons if they

691
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Speaker 1: just would have pulled off one of them probably would

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Speaker 1: have won the Super Bowl. And Matthews sadly as a

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Speaker 1: starring role because he had two holding calls, one after

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Speaker 1: the onside kick after the first Patriots touched down, and

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Speaker 1: then of course the killer a couple of plays after

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Speaker 1: Julio is big catch in the fourth quarter. Because I

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Speaker 1: love our listeners so much, look at you. I've included

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Speaker 1: links to all these videos too, so if you don't

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Speaker 1: get a chance to watch it on NFL network, pull

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Speaker 1: out my article NFL dot Com slash Westling the sound

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Speaker 1: effects article. The links are all in there to the videos.

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Speaker 1: If you want to see the beautiful work West, well done.

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Speaker 1: Uh so there you go, sound effects. Check it out,

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Speaker 1: airing over and over this offseason on NFL Network. Now,

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Speaker 1: this is the gift that keeps on punishing you. Well, Dan,

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Speaker 1: you know you were out yesterday. You that was not

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Speaker 1: an accident, but right, good day to be. I think

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Speaker 1: it was a eight or nine times in a row

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Speaker 1: with these various million football lives with the Patriots. What's

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Speaker 1: it called the America's came over and over one super

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Speaker 1: Bowl then fool Network. Yeah that I steered clear of

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Speaker 1: that channel in my direct TV at home as well.

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Speaker 1: All right, let's settle up by the way. Uh some

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Speaker 1: sandwich props from Super Bowl fifty one, our annual preview show.

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Speaker 1: We we do some props and um so let's go

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Speaker 1: through them sandwich props. Oh my god, people really hate

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00:37:44,360 --> 00:37:47,120
Speaker 1: that drop. No, you know what happened was that is

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Speaker 1: the new sandwich drop. And I'll tell you why because

719
00:37:50,320 --> 00:37:52,880
Speaker 1: I got several tweets from people saying I had a

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Speaker 1: turn off the podcast because the apple chomp? Do we

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00:37:56,200 --> 00:38:01,520
Speaker 1: still have that one? That was it? No? This is different, Greg,

722
00:38:02,000 --> 00:38:05,760
Speaker 1: trust me, I'm the one. So this is a punishment

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Speaker 1: to those of you that are so weak will that

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Speaker 1: you couldn't handle the last job. This one's even more gross.

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Speaker 1: I don't know what the end game is here, but

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Speaker 1: that was hideous. Till you something that's a pickle being eaten.

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Speaker 1: If you cross me, If I get one more tweet

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Speaker 1: from somebody saying they can't handle that drop, what are

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00:38:21,520 --> 00:38:25,040
Speaker 1: we gonna do? Said something about a banana, the banana

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Speaker 1: chewing drop. You don't want anything close to the banana drop.

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Speaker 1: You really don't. After that, it's someone chewing on someone's

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Speaker 1: human femur. I mean, where are we going with this?

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Speaker 1: Don't I'm just saying, tough up. You have you pay

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Speaker 1: literally nothing for this podcast. Millennials are a generation that

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Speaker 1: lacks toughness, dand and maybe and you know who you

736
00:38:47,440 --> 00:38:49,839
Speaker 1: are if you're listening right now and you came at

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Speaker 1: me on Twitter about having to turn off the podcast,

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Speaker 1: I don't know who you are, but you know who

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00:38:54,000 --> 00:38:56,680
Speaker 1: you are. All right, here we go. We'll start with

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Speaker 1: Mark Sessler. Mark, you finished four and five for the

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Speaker 1: super Bowl, which is about where everybody else finished. None

742
00:39:04,120 --> 00:39:06,799
Speaker 1: of us got anything right. Yeah, uh, here's the first one.

743
00:39:06,840 --> 00:39:09,799
Speaker 1: There will be no Super Bowl fifty one winner. Yeah,

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00:39:09,920 --> 00:39:13,719
Speaker 1: we all not. That did go to overtime, So there

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00:39:13,880 --> 00:39:16,680
Speaker 1: was a moment where there was you know, and of

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Speaker 1: course leading up to the game, some of the uh,

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00:39:19,239 --> 00:39:22,200
Speaker 1: the unrest, social unrest around this country. It seems like

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Speaker 1: you had a shot at this. A lot of people

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Speaker 1: thought there was a shot, and in the end there

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Speaker 1: was no shot. Okay, so that cost you three Uh

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Speaker 1: your next one, Lady Gaga will do something during the

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00:39:31,160 --> 00:39:35,560
Speaker 1: halftime show that will immediately qualify as legitimate breaking news

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Speaker 1: beyond the sports world. Uh and uh, this is a

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Speaker 1: fun person to ask us West. We had decided that

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Speaker 1: you would be the independent arbitrator on this. Did Lady

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Speaker 1: Gaga do anything that really have the entire world talking? No?

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Speaker 1: I mean she jumped she like she jumped off a roof,

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Speaker 1: but didn't really jump off a roof. She did some

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Speaker 1: spider monkey crawl. I don't you know what if she

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Speaker 1: would have actually breaking news, if she would have jumped

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Speaker 1: off the roof qualified No. I think something would have

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Speaker 1: had to have gone wrong with jumping off the roof

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Speaker 1: for it to go breaking. And that's what I just

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Speaker 1: thought that you were like hinting at Gaga suffering some

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Speaker 1: type of mortal injury. It's more like I feel every

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Speaker 1: time I do one of these, it's like, oh, that

767
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Speaker 1: wasn't ununique enough. So it's like I'm now just resorting

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Speaker 1: to like natural disaster and like massive issues, so very strange. Uh.

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Speaker 1: And here it was your big winner and it was

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Speaker 1: a big one. Uh, super Bowl fifty one will go

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Speaker 1: into overtime, and we discussed that, and uh, it is

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Speaker 1: the finally um super Bowl that do on the first

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Speaker 1: Super Bowl. So you want sandwiches off both Dan and Gregg.

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Speaker 1: Moving on to Greg Rosenthal, who came in under five

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Speaker 1: hundred three and four. Greg, that will hurt you in

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00:40:44,320 --> 00:40:48,359
Speaker 1: the standings. Well that that's a good tease for later.

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00:40:48,440 --> 00:40:50,879
Speaker 1: I'm happy to go over all the overall standings after

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Speaker 1: this is okay, Dean Lewis, will you and Bob Costas

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00:40:54,360 --> 00:40:57,560
Speaker 1: and go over how about that? Dean Lewis will finish

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Speaker 1: with over one yards from scrimmage right church, wrong, pew.

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Speaker 1: You know where did he finish? He had about seven

782
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Speaker 1: yards or something like that. I mean James James White,

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Speaker 1: who has a very similar role obviously basically, uh, you know,

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Speaker 1: the receiving back ends up getting jobbed for the m

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Speaker 1: v P award. I don't know about getting jobbed. That's

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Speaker 1: that's Tom Bernie or in that sucker. Let me just

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Speaker 1: get I'm just saying he had. He had the most

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Speaker 1: catches in Super Bowl history. He had a hundred and

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Speaker 1: thirty yards, He had a game winning touchdown, He had

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Speaker 1: a pretty epics just for Dean Lewis. Had twenty seven

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Speaker 1: yards rushing and two yards receiving, and he got injured

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Speaker 1: in the fourth quarter of twenty nine yards. Okay, Uh,

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Speaker 1: Matt Ryan will throw for over three fifty yards. The

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00:41:45,719 --> 00:41:47,800
Speaker 1: only threw the ball twenty three times and that's what

795
00:41:47,960 --> 00:41:52,120
Speaker 1: costs you, uh, seventeen completions for two four yards, which

796
00:41:52,200 --> 00:41:55,480
Speaker 1: is pretty interesting. Greg, if you would have won the

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Speaker 1: if the Falcons would have won that coin toss and

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00:41:58,000 --> 00:42:01,320
Speaker 1: they marched down the field, maybe you get that three fifty.

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Speaker 1: You'll have to settle for a fifth Lombardi Trophy. It's

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00:42:05,040 --> 00:42:07,279
Speaker 1: not exactly like second prize to have your team when

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00:42:07,320 --> 00:42:09,239
Speaker 1: the suits I would have been that would have been tough.

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00:42:09,360 --> 00:42:11,440
Speaker 1: But I do think West for not jumping in on

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Speaker 1: either one of those, so that helped me. I don't

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Speaker 1: think he had a choice. Yeah. Finally, I forgot that

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Speaker 1: and that was that was a bit. Finally, finally, Dan hanzs,

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Speaker 1: that's me. Uh. NFL media insider Dan hands Is should say,

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Speaker 1: was that a chimp in the background? At one point

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Speaker 1: ask us she put it together a dolphin? A t

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Speaker 1: n media insider that even the title doesn't make anything

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Speaker 1: around the NFL media. None of that makes sense. Four

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Speaker 1: and three, Um, the Falcons will score an opening drive touchdown,

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Speaker 1: Greg and Mark took me up on that, and that

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Speaker 1: didn't work out. I believe they went six and out. Uh.

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Speaker 1: And then the Super Bowl fifty one winner will not

815
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Speaker 1: have an official White House visit. And it's funny, I

816
00:43:09,360 --> 00:43:11,319
Speaker 1: don't even remember this, even though it was a week ago. Greg,

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00:43:11,440 --> 00:43:13,400
Speaker 1: you did not take me on that. No, I I

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00:43:13,520 --> 00:43:15,960
Speaker 1: don't think they will, and I think it's looking good

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00:43:16,040 --> 00:43:18,600
Speaker 1: for you and I that we were right there. I

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Speaker 1: would have that. I just think that with so many

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Speaker 1: players not wanting to go, if half the team, if

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Speaker 1: you get it to the point where it's at least

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Speaker 1: half the team doesn't want to go, that's still an

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00:43:30,200 --> 00:43:32,719
Speaker 1: official visit. No, no, no, I'm saying that they'll pull out.

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00:43:33,360 --> 00:43:36,560
Speaker 1: But but but you would say, though, let's say Brady

826
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Speaker 1: Belichick and nineteen players go that we are going to

827
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Speaker 1: be on the joint Chiefs of Steps soon. I mean, yeah,

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Speaker 1: congratulations on that. By the way, big win. Hey look

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Speaker 1: if they yeah, they could improve things. Here comes, here

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Speaker 1: comes more tweets. I haven't heard enough sandwich bites. By

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Speaker 1: the way, punished, due punish. I love it. Keep keep

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Speaker 1: politicscel podcast man, have fun with your new podcast. Uh

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Speaker 1: that's it. So where are the standing exact? Greg and

834
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Speaker 1: now three or four years into the race? Uh? Westling

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Speaker 1: seventy five and six seventy six? Right? No, West got

836
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Speaker 1: one right because West took Mark on the super Bowl?

837
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Speaker 1: Will have a winner? So okay, well that Steven Stephen,

838
00:44:28,920 --> 00:44:31,239
Speaker 1: this is the all time winner. This this does count

839
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Speaker 1: counts counting the Super Bowl? Uh, Mark, I guess would

840
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Speaker 1: be bringing up the rear of the four of us

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Speaker 1: at sixty two and sixty eight. Yeah. I've had quite

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Speaker 1: a comeback, but I was just awful out of it.

843
00:44:42,880 --> 00:44:45,479
Speaker 1: Shows with the less wins and losses, you just don't

844
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Speaker 1: jump in as much you're back. It reflects the early

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Speaker 1: stage my play. Not to say that, I I mean,

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Speaker 1: I got a whole host of things completely wrong. So

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00:44:54,000 --> 00:44:56,120
Speaker 1: I'm not getting any better. Dan doing well eighty two

848
00:44:56,200 --> 00:44:59,360
Speaker 1: and seventy two, That's what I'm talking about, baby, and

849
00:45:00,160 --> 00:45:03,200
Speaker 1: I am at eighty nine and seventy five. All right,

850
00:45:03,239 --> 00:45:04,640
Speaker 1: So I picked up a little ground on you, but

851
00:45:04,680 --> 00:45:07,120
Speaker 1: you're still the first place. And this game ends the

852
00:45:07,200 --> 00:45:10,320
Speaker 1: moment of us, the moment one of us uh quits

853
00:45:10,560 --> 00:45:14,680
Speaker 1: gets terminated where the podcast mysteriously disappears when someone on

854
00:45:14,719 --> 00:45:19,880
Speaker 1: the third floor listens to literally one episode. So whenever

855
00:45:19,960 --> 00:45:22,919
Speaker 1: that happens in the show, uh either is no longer

856
00:45:22,960 --> 00:45:27,359
Speaker 1: the four of Us or we're canceled out right um uh.

857
00:45:27,560 --> 00:45:29,360
Speaker 1: Which I'm not saying. This is not me hinting that

858
00:45:29,520 --> 00:45:31,719
Speaker 1: something's going on, saying if that were to happen, that's

859
00:45:31,760 --> 00:45:33,440
Speaker 1: when the game ends. If people are looking for how

860
00:45:33,480 --> 00:45:35,160
Speaker 1: do what is the end game here? Right? And then

861
00:45:35,280 --> 00:45:38,719
Speaker 1: Nick Fortier, who runs this wonderful sister site, is out

862
00:45:38,760 --> 00:45:40,919
Speaker 1: of an unpaid job. Oh I thought you were gonna

863
00:45:40,960 --> 00:45:44,080
Speaker 1: say he takes one of our chairs after we had

864
00:45:44,160 --> 00:45:49,960
Speaker 1: let go. Actually I came in the gold standard Go

865
00:45:50,120 --> 00:45:52,239
Speaker 1: get my Lunch dot org. By the way, I think

866
00:45:52,920 --> 00:45:57,040
Speaker 1: a football podcast might be beneath the gold standards. Sydney,

867
00:45:57,080 --> 00:45:58,880
Speaker 1: by the way, is oh and four all time, so

868
00:45:59,400 --> 00:46:05,560
Speaker 1: you either jump off the ziggyanza. Alright, moving on, we

869
00:46:05,640 --> 00:46:07,320
Speaker 1: gotta keep moving, guys, a lot to get to the

870
00:46:07,400 --> 00:46:10,480
Speaker 1: supersized edition of the Around the NFL podcast post super

871
00:46:10,520 --> 00:46:15,239
Speaker 1: Bowl edition, the top five calls of the season. Oh

872
00:46:15,360 --> 00:46:18,560
Speaker 1: I love this. We we took it seriously as if

873
00:46:18,600 --> 00:46:21,520
Speaker 1: you're a listener of the podcast, uh, and you listened

874
00:46:21,560 --> 00:46:23,839
Speaker 1: all season long, you know that when we would play

875
00:46:23,920 --> 00:46:27,440
Speaker 1: different radio calls on our Sunday podcasts and our Tuesday

876
00:46:27,480 --> 00:46:31,399
Speaker 1: podcast for the primetime games, we would uh mark them

877
00:46:31,440 --> 00:46:33,560
Speaker 1: off or Sydney I should say, would mark them off

878
00:46:33,600 --> 00:46:36,359
Speaker 1: when we let her know we liked to call out

879
00:46:36,440 --> 00:46:38,640
Speaker 1: of those markos that came to a nice group a

880
00:46:38,800 --> 00:46:42,160
Speaker 1: dozen calls, and then the four of us got together

881
00:46:42,480 --> 00:46:45,240
Speaker 1: in a pre prod meeting I call it pre prod

882
00:46:45,320 --> 00:46:48,880
Speaker 1: pre prod, and we whittled that twelve down to five.

883
00:46:49,080 --> 00:46:52,960
Speaker 1: And here now got the paper in my hand. This

884
00:46:53,239 --> 00:46:55,600
Speaker 1: is the list. If you are in the business, uh,

885
00:46:55,760 --> 00:46:58,560
Speaker 1: in the play by play business or the color man business,

886
00:46:59,000 --> 00:47:00,520
Speaker 1: this is the piece of paper you want to be

887
00:47:00,640 --> 00:47:04,479
Speaker 1: on come February, because that means that you are doing something,

888
00:47:04,560 --> 00:47:07,799
Speaker 1: You're standing out from all of your peers. They don't

889
00:47:07,840 --> 00:47:11,600
Speaker 1: even know this podcast exists, well they will. We had

890
00:47:11,680 --> 00:47:15,400
Speaker 1: seven million people listen, eight million people since we started this.

891
00:47:15,840 --> 00:47:19,120
Speaker 1: Another villion just joyed listen to the show on Sunday,

892
00:47:19,160 --> 00:47:21,320
Speaker 1: So you don't know Zoli. Zoli might have been listening.

893
00:47:21,440 --> 00:47:24,960
Speaker 1: Old Shirtless mentioned you have to be a radio man.

894
00:47:25,040 --> 00:47:26,839
Speaker 1: You're not. You're not gonna be on a television show

895
00:47:26,880 --> 00:47:31,160
Speaker 1: and get it on this. You're not. Every once in

896
00:47:31,200 --> 00:47:35,200
Speaker 1: a while we would, but Zoli is bombed. Al Right,

897
00:47:35,239 --> 00:47:38,040
Speaker 1: here we go. Number five. The call is from Mike

898
00:47:38,520 --> 00:47:43,120
Speaker 1: Keith of w g f X. The play call was

899
00:47:43,280 --> 00:47:46,279
Speaker 1: the game winning field goal by Ryan suck Up in

900
00:47:46,880 --> 00:47:51,040
Speaker 1: Kansas City to keep Tennessee's playoff hopes alive. Uh and

901
00:47:51,440 --> 00:47:56,000
Speaker 1: uh send the Chiefs to an unlikely loss. Frankly to

902
00:47:56,080 --> 00:48:06,480
Speaker 1: snap snap said kick on the way God, Ryan suck

903
00:48:06,600 --> 00:48:12,040
Speaker 1: Up hass given the Titans a nineteen to seventeen when

904
00:48:12,840 --> 00:48:19,120
Speaker 1: harrow Head, Oh my goodness, eight and six has never better.

905
00:48:19,960 --> 00:48:23,520
Speaker 1: And I don't think Ryan suck Up has never felt better.

906
00:48:24,480 --> 00:48:27,759
Speaker 1: Um West, Now, this this was a major source of

907
00:48:27,920 --> 00:48:30,719
Speaker 1: consternation in the pre prod meeting. You didn't think this

908
00:48:30,880 --> 00:48:34,799
Speaker 1: belonged in the top five well as it generally who

909
00:48:34,840 --> 00:48:36,960
Speaker 1: would have thought that in the year two thousand seventeen,

910
00:48:37,360 --> 00:48:40,760
Speaker 1: radio calls wouldn't be that compelling. That was my general sentiment,

911
00:48:40,760 --> 00:48:43,200
Speaker 1: And the second sentiment was really tough to get on

912
00:48:43,280 --> 00:48:45,520
Speaker 1: this list when that makes it Wait a second. I

913
00:48:45,640 --> 00:48:48,719
Speaker 1: loved how he was like God in facts and he

914
00:48:48,800 --> 00:48:51,960
Speaker 1: can we clip off when he goes God in fact.

915
00:48:52,000 --> 00:48:54,160
Speaker 1: Let's I just want to hear that part one more time. God.

916
00:48:54,960 --> 00:48:56,839
Speaker 1: So that was number five. Any note to beat out

917
00:48:57,480 --> 00:49:01,120
Speaker 1: by hairrit beat out the Kansas City, the uh play

918
00:49:01,200 --> 00:49:03,800
Speaker 1: by play guy noting that someone had found the sweet

919
00:49:03,920 --> 00:49:07,560
Speaker 1: Nectar of the end, and Bob Costas announcing the Preakness

920
00:49:08,160 --> 00:49:13,719
Speaker 1: and costUS the Preakness. So best moment no better than

921
00:49:13,760 --> 00:49:16,360
Speaker 1: being Mr Irrelevant back in the NFL. And some of

922
00:49:16,360 --> 00:49:19,920
Speaker 1: these are sad and and and hindsight because the next week, uh,

923
00:49:20,239 --> 00:49:23,719
Speaker 1: the Titans played like crap and then Marcus Mariota broke

924
00:49:23,800 --> 00:49:27,200
Speaker 1: his leg. Uh, But these teams in the moment, special

925
00:49:27,280 --> 00:49:30,319
Speaker 1: moments for the teams number four, specially in seven, never

926
00:49:30,440 --> 00:49:33,520
Speaker 1: felt so bad. The next next week, number four, the

927
00:49:33,560 --> 00:49:35,719
Speaker 1: Cleveland Browns make the list. And you know the only

928
00:49:35,800 --> 00:49:38,000
Speaker 1: way the Browns are making a list like this is

929
00:49:38,320 --> 00:49:41,719
Speaker 1: uh if UH something really bad happened to them, or

930
00:49:42,160 --> 00:49:44,160
Speaker 1: there are one victory of the season and that's what

931
00:49:44,239 --> 00:49:46,920
Speaker 1: we're talking about. Jimmy Donovan of w k r K,

932
00:49:47,440 --> 00:49:51,000
Speaker 1: God bless him. This was his call when the field

933
00:49:51,040 --> 00:49:54,200
Speaker 1: goal was missed by who missed the field goal? Mark

934
00:49:54,360 --> 00:49:58,000
Speaker 1: Little Brown's trivia the Chargers field goal kicker Nick Novak,

935
00:49:58,680 --> 00:50:04,200
Speaker 1: Josh Lando Oh John lamb Lambabo goes wide right, ensuring

936
00:50:04,320 --> 00:50:06,759
Speaker 1: on Christmas Eve of all days, that the Browns would

937
00:50:06,840 --> 00:50:10,160
Speaker 1: not go winless in two thousand, sixteen nine seconds and

938
00:50:10,280 --> 00:50:13,120
Speaker 1: the clock is running. It's down to seven seconds. They

939
00:50:13,200 --> 00:50:15,360
Speaker 1: set it down at the thirty five. It's down to

940
00:50:15,480 --> 00:50:19,080
Speaker 1: four three to one. They got it off. The kick

941
00:50:19,160 --> 00:50:21,279
Speaker 1: on the way hand up r and the kick is

942
00:50:21,400 --> 00:50:29,520
Speaker 1: up and it is good. Good on it for five

943
00:50:29,640 --> 00:50:33,799
Speaker 1: yard feel gon no good at the absolute list chick

944
00:50:33,880 --> 00:50:37,440
Speaker 1: of o'clock and it's all at fourteen no more. On

945
00:50:37,800 --> 00:50:44,880
Speaker 1: Christmas Eve. The Browns are a winner. People. Here it

946
00:50:45,000 --> 00:50:47,360
Speaker 1: is the here's the aplos. People will be surprised to

947
00:50:47,400 --> 00:50:50,600
Speaker 1: know this. And Mark, tell me if I'm wrong, that

948
00:50:50,760 --> 00:50:52,480
Speaker 1: was the angriest I ever saw you in the newsroom

949
00:50:52,520 --> 00:50:55,600
Speaker 1: when that happened, which people will be surprised by Yeah,

950
00:50:55,640 --> 00:50:59,439
Speaker 1: they like the celebration around your team. No, I don't

951
00:50:59,480 --> 00:51:02,719
Speaker 1: even remember for what all the nuances were, but it's

952
00:51:02,920 --> 00:51:05,560
Speaker 1: it's not a pleasant place to watch Browns games in general,

953
00:51:07,440 --> 00:51:11,240
Speaker 1: especially this season, because that became part of the newsroom culture,

954
00:51:11,440 --> 00:51:14,440
Speaker 1: was the Browns the windless season and how close they

955
00:51:14,480 --> 00:51:16,799
Speaker 1: came to it. So there was like a fun, kind

956
00:51:16,840 --> 00:51:20,719
Speaker 1: of cathartic celebration in the newsroom. But for you, Mark Well,

957
00:51:20,760 --> 00:51:23,560
Speaker 1: I also and it was kind of still kind of sad.

958
00:51:23,640 --> 00:51:25,319
Speaker 1: I don't claim that it was, you know. I mean,

959
00:51:25,640 --> 00:51:27,520
Speaker 1: every day I'll say this about at least one or

960
00:51:27,520 --> 00:51:29,719
Speaker 1: two my reactions, they're they're a mess. And that was

961
00:51:29,840 --> 00:51:31,840
Speaker 1: not a That was a messy reaction. That reminds me

962
00:51:31,920 --> 00:51:34,360
Speaker 1: of what you said during the Super Bowl, which is

963
00:51:34,440 --> 00:51:37,560
Speaker 1: that if the Browns did make it to the Super Bowl,

964
00:51:37,920 --> 00:51:41,400
Speaker 1: You're actually gonna have switched places with Simone. You'll sit

965
00:51:41,440 --> 00:51:44,280
Speaker 1: in the crowd and Simone will cover the game. Simon

966
00:51:44,440 --> 00:51:47,120
Speaker 1: is my wife. She will be forced into writing articles

967
00:51:47,239 --> 00:51:49,080
Speaker 1: during the Super Bowl while I enjoy it and set

968
00:51:49,160 --> 00:51:51,399
Speaker 1: things on fire. I'm just gonna set myself on fire

969
00:51:51,400 --> 00:51:53,319
Speaker 1: if things I am not working. If the Jets make

970
00:51:53,360 --> 00:51:55,560
Speaker 1: this thank you I'm going to the game, right, but

971
00:51:55,640 --> 00:51:57,960
Speaker 1: I am not working. Not like you have an option

972
00:51:58,160 --> 00:51:59,880
Speaker 1: you don't have. Oh, I'll have it. Well, it's not

973
00:52:00,000 --> 00:52:02,480
Speaker 1: to happen either. Yeah, it's fantasy. That's why it was

974
00:52:02,480 --> 00:52:06,000
Speaker 1: a weird. Yeah. Number three the New England Patriots. They

975
00:52:06,040 --> 00:52:08,160
Speaker 1: deserve to crack this list. And you would think the

976
00:52:08,239 --> 00:52:11,960
Speaker 1: play call that we played on Sunday night of the

977
00:52:12,040 --> 00:52:14,200
Speaker 1: Patriots winning the game and overtime would get it. But no,

978
00:52:14,400 --> 00:52:19,160
Speaker 1: Bob Soci and our boy Scott Uh totally comfortable with

979
00:52:19,239 --> 00:52:22,640
Speaker 1: public community Zolac with the call on Danny Amandol's two

980
00:52:22,680 --> 00:52:25,040
Speaker 1: point conversion late in the fourth quarter to tie the

981
00:52:25,160 --> 00:52:28,040
Speaker 1: game fifty seven seconds to go at two for the

982
00:52:28,160 --> 00:52:32,839
Speaker 1: Tide trips to the left, Brandy under shut it. Tom

983
00:52:32,920 --> 00:52:35,160
Speaker 1: takes the staff quick throw to Amadola screen luck the

984
00:52:35,320 --> 00:52:38,560
Speaker 1: flag is he reaches across the gold link for a score.

985
00:52:38,880 --> 00:52:41,600
Speaker 1: There is a penity marker on the play side. That's

986
00:52:41,640 --> 00:52:50,719
Speaker 1: it's some damn suns for everybody. It didn't. So what

987
00:52:50,800 --> 00:52:55,000
Speaker 1: are you gonna look at that? Beetle? I can't believe it.

988
00:52:56,600 --> 00:52:58,680
Speaker 1: Someone that's familiar with that market can let us know

989
00:52:58,760 --> 00:53:01,160
Speaker 1: who Beatle is. What are you looking at? Beetle's my

990
00:53:01,200 --> 00:53:04,000
Speaker 1: favorite line. Yeah, we gotta we gotta fighting. If if

991
00:53:04,080 --> 00:53:07,680
Speaker 1: someone you know follows Scott Zoe or knows the answer

992
00:53:07,760 --> 00:53:10,359
Speaker 1: to this, almost get the information you almost not want

993
00:53:10,400 --> 00:53:13,960
Speaker 1: to know too. And just who he's taunting there. That

994
00:53:14,080 --> 00:53:17,600
Speaker 1: makes the list because of unhinged Homerism. It's not because

995
00:53:17,640 --> 00:53:20,239
Speaker 1: it's the cleanest call. It's just you can't believe that

996
00:53:20,360 --> 00:53:23,640
Speaker 1: anyone in a booth is behaving this. Zola proved himself

997
00:53:23,719 --> 00:53:25,759
Speaker 1: to be the number one homer in the NFL this

998
00:53:25,840 --> 00:53:27,959
Speaker 1: season without a doubt, so this was a little nod

999
00:53:28,000 --> 00:53:30,080
Speaker 1: to him, giving him the bronze medal. I will say

1000
00:53:30,120 --> 00:53:32,799
Speaker 1: it is interesting that's coming out of New England. Um,

1001
00:53:33,360 --> 00:53:35,000
Speaker 1: because I know in New York, at least in Mark

1002
00:53:35,080 --> 00:53:38,600
Speaker 1: you'll you know this, Uh, they're very Um there's not

1003
00:53:38,640 --> 00:53:42,439
Speaker 1: a lot of Homer's not because that's for whatever reason,

1004
00:53:42,520 --> 00:53:44,719
Speaker 1: that market has always been more along the lines of

1005
00:53:44,760 --> 00:53:47,000
Speaker 1: playing it down down the middle, even if there is

1006
00:53:47,320 --> 00:53:51,279
Speaker 1: a slight leaning one way or because one team either.

1007
00:53:51,360 --> 00:53:53,440
Speaker 1: I think that's part of it. Because there's Mets, Yankees,

1008
00:53:53,480 --> 00:53:56,120
Speaker 1: there's Jets, Giants that affect. I think New York is

1009
00:53:56,200 --> 00:54:00,120
Speaker 1: legitimately like it is the launching pad to National or

1010
00:54:00,480 --> 00:54:03,200
Speaker 1: National Careers Boston TV wise, it's not that way, but

1011
00:54:03,320 --> 00:54:05,279
Speaker 1: you might guess, I mean partly because like there's a

1012
00:54:05,360 --> 00:54:08,440
Speaker 1: lot of non Yankees and Mets fans they're listening, you

1013
00:54:08,520 --> 00:54:10,920
Speaker 1: know what I mean, like are less provincial of the city.

1014
00:54:11,239 --> 00:54:13,640
Speaker 1: But but every call we're listening to has a tinge

1015
00:54:13,719 --> 00:54:17,080
Speaker 1: of Homeroism in New York. You're right, does not moving

1016
00:54:17,239 --> 00:54:19,919
Speaker 1: on number two and this this is gonna surprise people

1017
00:54:19,960 --> 00:54:21,279
Speaker 1: because I think a lot of people when they heard

1018
00:54:21,320 --> 00:54:23,600
Speaker 1: this call, and it came very early in the season

1019
00:54:23,680 --> 00:54:25,600
Speaker 1: Week one, in fact, said oh, the race is over,

1020
00:54:26,200 --> 00:54:28,160
Speaker 1: and you know we thought it was over two people

1021
00:54:28,280 --> 00:54:31,279
Speaker 1: were saying that the streets talking give it to Kevin

1022
00:54:31,360 --> 00:54:34,840
Speaker 1: Harlan because in a game a wipe out of a

1023
00:54:34,920 --> 00:54:38,520
Speaker 1: game where the forty Niners um embarrassed the forty Niners

1024
00:54:38,560 --> 00:54:40,440
Speaker 1: and a shutout win on the late Monday night game

1025
00:54:40,480 --> 00:54:43,960
Speaker 1: in Week one, Harlan set the country on fire the

1026
00:54:44,040 --> 00:54:46,920
Speaker 1: next morning on social media with his call of an

1027
00:54:46,960 --> 00:54:49,840
Speaker 1: idiot fan who would run onto the field. Hey, somebody's

1028
00:54:49,920 --> 00:54:52,439
Speaker 1: running on the field. So I'm goroofball in a hat

1029
00:54:52,760 --> 00:54:55,520
Speaker 1: and a red shirt. He takes off the shirt he's

1030
00:54:55,600 --> 00:54:58,560
Speaker 1: running down the middle. By the fifty he's at he's

1031
00:54:58,640 --> 00:55:02,239
Speaker 1: bear chested, bar in his chest. He runs the opposite way.

1032
00:55:02,560 --> 00:55:05,760
Speaker 1: He runs with fifty, he runs forty. The guy is drunk,

1033
00:55:06,000 --> 00:55:08,759
Speaker 1: but there he goes the funny. They're changing him. They're

1034
00:55:08,800 --> 00:55:12,560
Speaker 1: not gonna get him waving his arms, bear chested. Somebody

1035
00:55:12,680 --> 00:55:24,680
Speaker 1: stopped the hot line. That was the most exciting thing

1036
00:55:24,719 --> 00:55:29,399
Speaker 1: to happen tonight. I always like because he'd give it's

1037
00:55:29,400 --> 00:55:31,360
Speaker 1: a professional calau of a fan on the field. But

1038
00:55:31,400 --> 00:55:33,800
Speaker 1: then he's like, to the fifty, to the forty, this

1039
00:55:33,920 --> 00:55:37,799
Speaker 1: guy is drunk. To always love that he loves. He's

1040
00:55:37,800 --> 00:55:39,960
Speaker 1: an example of someone thing just absolutely loves what he does.

1041
00:55:40,120 --> 00:55:43,120
Speaker 1: Like he he turned that into something so special. It's

1042
00:55:43,200 --> 00:55:45,440
Speaker 1: like very few people have that kind of fun with it.

1043
00:55:45,520 --> 00:55:48,560
Speaker 1: And and it's a reminder. And since I'll never get

1044
00:55:48,600 --> 00:55:51,520
Speaker 1: a chance to really talk about Jeff Fisher's head coaching

1045
00:55:51,560 --> 00:55:54,040
Speaker 1: career maybe ever again, it's a reminder. How did the

1046
00:55:54,200 --> 00:55:57,560
Speaker 1: Rams lose? Lose? The only two games of the season

1047
00:55:57,600 --> 00:55:59,640
Speaker 1: that the forty niners won were against the Rams, and

1048
00:55:59,680 --> 00:56:01,719
Speaker 1: they did Their offense didn't get two hundred yards in

1049
00:56:01,800 --> 00:56:05,440
Speaker 1: either one of those games. That's almost impossible horrendous, horrendous,

1050
00:56:05,600 --> 00:56:08,000
Speaker 1: and check out Kevin Harlan. He'll be all over march men.

1051
00:56:08,280 --> 00:56:10,160
Speaker 1: So that guy's got a good career and he deserves it.

1052
00:56:10,320 --> 00:56:12,839
Speaker 1: But the man who takes the cake, and I'll tell

1053
00:56:12,840 --> 00:56:14,440
Speaker 1: you what, he's the one man in the list probably

1054
00:56:14,480 --> 00:56:16,480
Speaker 1: doesn't want to be on the list, but we love him.

1055
00:56:17,120 --> 00:56:21,200
Speaker 1: We say this with peace and love. Uh. That Bob

1056
00:56:21,320 --> 00:56:25,920
Speaker 1: Lamey w f n I in Indianapolis earned the number

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00:56:25,960 --> 00:56:28,800
Speaker 1: one spot of our calls of the year with this

1058
00:56:29,040 --> 00:56:32,160
Speaker 1: gorgeous gem in Week three against the Chargers. The Colts win.

1059
00:56:32,239 --> 00:56:42,560
Speaker 1: It is finally over randalls for everybody, probably Amy people

1060
00:56:43,560 --> 00:56:46,479
Speaker 1: drops an F bomb live on air. It's like every

1061
00:56:46,560 --> 00:56:51,319
Speaker 1: Sunday night football game in this room. Lamy, I'm glad

1062
00:56:51,360 --> 00:56:53,320
Speaker 1: you didn't lose his job over that, because people have

1063
00:56:53,440 --> 00:56:57,719
Speaker 1: lost their job for less. All Right, Finally, this is

1064
00:56:57,760 --> 00:57:00,840
Speaker 1: what you came here for. Mark Sessler road a banger,

1065
00:57:01,160 --> 00:57:05,080
Speaker 1: what we're looking forward to this offseason besides Tony Romo,

1066
00:57:06,400 --> 00:57:14,480
Speaker 1: um blather. Yeah. So Mark came up on a nice

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00:57:14,560 --> 00:57:18,480
Speaker 1: list here. I think it goes about about ten twelve deep, uh,

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00:57:18,640 --> 00:57:22,440
Speaker 1: with a bonus section entitled Ultra Tedious Storylines. I refuse

1069
00:57:23,040 --> 00:57:27,440
Speaker 1: to entertain. We'll get into what I say. It almost

1070
00:57:27,480 --> 00:57:30,960
Speaker 1: felt like the whole thing was a preamble to set

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00:57:31,080 --> 00:57:35,120
Speaker 1: up that that just getting to water. All right, So

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00:57:35,240 --> 00:57:38,920
Speaker 1: let's go down the list and uh, and we'll decide

1073
00:57:38,960 --> 00:57:44,520
Speaker 1: whether Mark's on point or completely just writing it this ass, Well,

1074
00:57:44,560 --> 00:57:48,200
Speaker 1: that's very possible. First one. And by the way, why

1075
00:57:48,280 --> 00:57:50,760
Speaker 1: beyond Romo? Why why did why? The conceit at the

1076
00:57:50,840 --> 00:57:54,560
Speaker 1: top explained to us, I'm already completely exhausted with the

1077
00:57:54,640 --> 00:57:56,880
Speaker 1: handling of Tony Romo. At one point, he's going to

1078
00:57:56,960 --> 00:57:59,680
Speaker 1: be traded. That's one article. Let's keep it at one.

1079
00:57:59,760 --> 00:58:02,280
Speaker 1: Why do we need to have four thousand think pieces

1080
00:58:02,360 --> 00:58:06,480
Speaker 1: and lists and other landing spot bits. I mean, we

1081
00:58:06,640 --> 00:58:09,920
Speaker 1: get it. I think you're right, You're absolutely right. Alright,

1082
00:58:09,960 --> 00:58:13,080
Speaker 1: So no Romo talk. But you know what one of

1083
00:58:13,120 --> 00:58:15,840
Speaker 1: the storylines we talked about this one, Shanahan's fix it

1084
00:58:15,920 --> 00:58:18,720
Speaker 1: up or by the bay? How does Kyle take that

1085
00:58:18,800 --> 00:58:21,520
Speaker 1: to win team and turn it into a respectable bunch.

1086
00:58:21,640 --> 00:58:26,920
Speaker 1: You're you're excited according to your copy. I do think

1087
00:58:26,960 --> 00:58:29,760
Speaker 1: it's exciting. New coaches actually are one of my most

1088
00:58:30,440 --> 00:58:32,280
Speaker 1: I think it makes the off season and just treasured.

1089
00:58:32,960 --> 00:58:34,480
Speaker 1: I think if you find out who they are, but

1090
00:58:34,600 --> 00:58:37,480
Speaker 1: real quick because we all think, I think Kyle Shanahan's

1091
00:58:37,600 --> 00:58:39,440
Speaker 1: riding in, I get the super Bowl thing, but as

1092
00:58:39,520 --> 00:58:42,280
Speaker 1: this sort of wonder boy based on his entire lineage

1093
00:58:42,280 --> 00:58:44,919
Speaker 1: and career and everything else. And this is a very

1094
00:58:45,080 --> 00:58:48,520
Speaker 1: tough job to turn this team around quickly. And this

1095
00:58:48,680 --> 00:58:53,120
Speaker 1: is a pretty exhausted, h angry press core that covers

1096
00:58:53,160 --> 00:58:56,480
Speaker 1: the Niners that don't have six years of patients in them.

1097
00:58:56,520 --> 00:58:58,400
Speaker 1: So it will be an interesting dynamic. Although I think

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00:58:58,400 --> 00:59:01,880
Speaker 1: they're kind of impressed that Ed York pulled off, even

1099
00:59:01,920 --> 00:59:05,240
Speaker 1: though John Lynch is in a strange higher in a

1100
00:59:05,320 --> 00:59:07,160
Speaker 1: lot of minds, I think you're kind of like, Wow,

1101
00:59:07,240 --> 00:59:10,280
Speaker 1: Jed York got John Lynch and Kyleshannon. That's actually that's

1102
00:59:10,320 --> 00:59:12,959
Speaker 1: pretty good there their roster, though, I mean they're gonna

1103
00:59:13,000 --> 00:59:17,480
Speaker 1: have to. They're starting from scratch. It's especially if Jeremy

1104
00:59:17,560 --> 00:59:20,680
Speaker 1: Curley sneaks out of the building eighty million under the cap.

1105
00:59:21,200 --> 00:59:24,120
Speaker 1: And I was looking at the free agent list this year.

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00:59:24,840 --> 00:59:28,080
Speaker 1: It is the weakest free agents I've ever seen because

1107
00:59:28,160 --> 00:59:31,840
Speaker 1: the salary cap keeps going up in by a decent

1108
00:59:31,880 --> 00:59:34,960
Speaker 1: amount every year, so teams are signing their good young players.

1109
00:59:35,280 --> 00:59:36,680
Speaker 1: This is a bad year to have a lot of

1110
00:59:36,680 --> 00:59:39,360
Speaker 1: money under the camp as such a lover of coordinators, though,

1111
00:59:39,400 --> 00:59:41,560
Speaker 1: what do you think about the decision that Kyleshannion is

1112
00:59:41,600 --> 00:59:44,360
Speaker 1: not even gonna have an offensive coordinatu? I think Connor

1113
00:59:44,520 --> 00:59:47,080
Speaker 1: or wrote a great piece about first year head coaches

1114
00:59:47,120 --> 00:59:49,080
Speaker 1: when they go through all this and then they sit

1115
00:59:49,120 --> 00:59:50,520
Speaker 1: in their chair and they think, I don't know what

1116
00:59:50,640 --> 00:59:54,439
Speaker 1: I'm doing, like adding a lot of extra responsibility onto

1117
00:59:54,480 --> 00:59:56,280
Speaker 1: your plate when you haven't been a head coach. For

1118
00:59:56,400 --> 00:59:58,560
Speaker 1: Kyle Shanahan, who's gonna find out there's all these other

1119
00:59:58,600 --> 01:00:00,840
Speaker 1: things he has to do. By the way, he comes

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01:00:00,920 --> 01:00:03,960
Speaker 1: from father Mike Shanahan that probably told him everything, so

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01:00:04,280 --> 01:00:06,400
Speaker 1: more experienced. And on the next up, what becomes of

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01:00:06,480 --> 01:00:09,160
Speaker 1: Jimmy g I like this one. In fact, yes, our

1123
01:00:09,280 --> 01:00:11,680
Speaker 1: NFL network hit that you could watch on Friday on

1124
01:00:11,840 --> 01:00:15,400
Speaker 1: up to the minute. This is the subject Garoppolo, Uh,

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Speaker 1: the backup quarterback of the Patriots. The Pats have a

1126
01:00:19,320 --> 01:00:21,440
Speaker 1: position here is one year left on his deal where

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01:00:21,480 --> 01:00:24,760
Speaker 1: they can make a play trade Garoppolo with Tom Brady

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01:00:24,800 --> 01:00:29,400
Speaker 1: obviously still playing so well and the Patriots defending champions. Now, Uh,

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Speaker 1: the question becomes Mark and I'll start with you, Uh,

1130
01:00:32,440 --> 01:00:35,640
Speaker 1: where does he end up? Where is he comes September?

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01:00:36,720 --> 01:00:40,000
Speaker 1: Is he in Cleveland? Mark it? Cleveland's gonna have to

1132
01:00:40,640 --> 01:00:42,720
Speaker 1: give up a lot because it sounds like there's at

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01:00:42,800 --> 01:00:45,360
Speaker 1: least three teams that are very serious about making a

1134
01:00:45,440 --> 01:00:48,880
Speaker 1: run for him. Which three teams forty Niners, Bears, and

1135
01:00:49,160 --> 01:00:51,480
Speaker 1: Brown's top three teams in the draft. So there isn't

1136
01:00:51,480 --> 01:00:53,360
Speaker 1: a team sitting at twenty that has no I mean,

1137
01:00:53,400 --> 01:00:56,040
Speaker 1: they all have great position to outbid each other. Kyle

1138
01:00:56,160 --> 01:00:59,479
Speaker 1: Shanahan one of the reasons he left the Browns because

1139
01:00:59,520 --> 01:01:03,080
Speaker 1: they just guarded his analysis on that quarterback class. He

1140
01:01:03,160 --> 01:01:06,640
Speaker 1: had Derek Carr and Jimmy Garoppolo rated above Johnny Manziel

1141
01:01:06,680 --> 01:01:10,120
Speaker 1: and Teddy Bridgewater. They didn't pay attention to him. He left.

1142
01:01:10,240 --> 01:01:13,040
Speaker 1: Kyle Shanahan now in San Francisco. We've seen reports that

1143
01:01:13,160 --> 01:01:15,840
Speaker 1: the Browns are already planning to trade for Garoppolo. We've

1144
01:01:15,880 --> 01:01:18,080
Speaker 1: seen reports that the Bears have made him their number

1145
01:01:18,120 --> 01:01:22,120
Speaker 1: one off season priority. And Thomas Dimitroff, who had Channahan

1146
01:01:22,160 --> 01:01:24,200
Speaker 1: for two years and had his ear, said it best,

1147
01:01:24,400 --> 01:01:27,880
Speaker 1: until you find a quarterback, the search for him consumes

1148
01:01:27,920 --> 01:01:31,560
Speaker 1: you there will be a windfall of draft picks in

1149
01:01:31,640 --> 01:01:34,000
Speaker 1: New England. I think I think he's gonna bring more

1150
01:01:34,080 --> 01:01:37,040
Speaker 1: than a first rounder, and once the bidding gets wild,

1151
01:01:37,160 --> 01:01:39,360
Speaker 1: I think it could go out of control. He is

1152
01:01:39,440 --> 01:01:42,360
Speaker 1: the most attractive guy on the market in terms of

1153
01:01:42,560 --> 01:01:46,880
Speaker 1: you know, Tony Romo or Cutler or Tyrod Taylor could

1154
01:01:46,960 --> 01:01:49,920
Speaker 1: be in the mix. I don't know a first I

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01:01:50,000 --> 01:01:52,240
Speaker 1: feel like if the brown said today will give you

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01:01:52,360 --> 01:01:55,000
Speaker 1: the number, what is it, twelve or four twelve pick

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01:01:55,080 --> 01:01:56,680
Speaker 1: for the draft, I don't I don't know. If the

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01:01:56,680 --> 01:01:58,400
Speaker 1: pages have weighed around, I think they would just be like,

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01:01:58,400 --> 01:02:00,480
Speaker 1: all right, let's do it. Well, here's here's a offered mark.

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Speaker 1: You tell me if you do it. If you're the GM,

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01:02:02,960 --> 01:02:05,320
Speaker 1: not not the first overall pick, but the Browns number

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01:02:05,360 --> 01:02:07,720
Speaker 1: twelve pick, which they obtained from the Eagles, of course,

1163
01:02:08,240 --> 01:02:11,400
Speaker 1: and a third rounder next year for Jimmy g and

1164
01:02:11,560 --> 01:02:14,720
Speaker 1: a fifth rounder in two thousand eighteen, I would do

1165
01:02:14,840 --> 01:02:17,000
Speaker 1: it in a second, and I'll tell you why, because

1166
01:02:17,040 --> 01:02:21,480
Speaker 1: if it works, then it doesn't matter what the cost was.

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01:02:21,960 --> 01:02:25,240
Speaker 1: If it doesn't work, it's no different than going into

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01:02:25,280 --> 01:02:27,520
Speaker 1: the season with r G three. They've got a ton

1169
01:02:27,560 --> 01:02:33,840
Speaker 1: of draft picks to Brown's key are the Browns a pick.

1170
01:02:33,880 --> 01:02:36,000
Speaker 1: Are you gonna Are you gonna keep fifteen rookies? Again?

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01:02:36,080 --> 01:02:38,320
Speaker 1: You can't you. I like their idea, but like at

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01:02:38,400 --> 01:02:40,880
Speaker 1: one point, you have to go for the quarterback, and

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01:02:41,040 --> 01:02:44,080
Speaker 1: and Jimmy G has been well trained there there by

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01:02:44,120 --> 01:02:47,040
Speaker 1: all indications it's not brock Oswaller Part two. And you

1175
01:02:47,160 --> 01:02:49,000
Speaker 1: gotta swing for the fences. You cannot go into the

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01:02:49,040 --> 01:02:51,600
Speaker 1: season with nobody. I guess my My point was that

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Speaker 1: it's just because they have X amount of roster space,

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01:02:55,960 --> 01:02:58,919
Speaker 1: it's still there's a lot of risk involved to give

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01:02:59,000 --> 01:03:02,560
Speaker 1: up a number twelve pick. I think it's worth it

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01:03:02,760 --> 01:03:06,400
Speaker 1: right one. Daniel Jeremiah, his latest mock has the Browns

1181
01:03:06,440 --> 01:03:09,600
Speaker 1: taking a tight end at number twelve. So do you

1182
01:03:09,640 --> 01:03:11,240
Speaker 1: want not who wouldn't even be your number one, your

1183
01:03:11,320 --> 01:03:12,600
Speaker 1: number one tight end? Or do you want to go

1184
01:03:12,760 --> 01:03:14,280
Speaker 1: for the quarterback? I give up the twelve pick for

1185
01:03:14,400 --> 01:03:16,240
Speaker 1: Jimmy G plus a third or whatever in a second.

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01:03:16,320 --> 01:03:18,640
Speaker 1: These rebuilding teams at the top of the draft, the Browns,

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01:03:18,680 --> 01:03:20,720
Speaker 1: the forty Niners, the Bears. They don't want Tony Romo,

1188
01:03:20,800 --> 01:03:23,240
Speaker 1: they don't want Jake Cutler, they don't want Tyrod Taylor.

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01:03:23,960 --> 01:03:26,720
Speaker 1: If the Browns offer that the Patriots are gonna shop

1190
01:03:26,800 --> 01:03:28,800
Speaker 1: it to the forty Niners and Bears and say beat it.

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01:03:29,080 --> 01:03:30,880
Speaker 1: Keep in keep an eye on the Saints. I really

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01:03:30,960 --> 01:03:34,120
Speaker 1: think the Saints one of the teams that are really

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01:03:34,200 --> 01:03:37,120
Speaker 1: high on Garoppolo going into the draft, uh Sean pay

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Speaker 1: in the Eastern Illinois connection. They've been looking pretty hard

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Speaker 1: at trying to find their next quarterback. I don't think

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01:03:42,240 --> 01:03:44,200
Speaker 1: that's an buy it for a minute. You're gonna trade

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01:03:44,200 --> 01:03:46,440
Speaker 1: a first rounder when your defense sucks every year and

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01:03:46,760 --> 01:03:49,720
Speaker 1: on one hit point on the Patriots side, is there

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Speaker 1: any thought in that building that we could have a

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01:03:52,400 --> 01:03:55,280
Speaker 1: Montana to Steve Young transfer of power? Why would we

1201
01:03:55,400 --> 01:03:57,760
Speaker 1: give that up? If if we think that highly about

1202
01:03:57,840 --> 01:04:00,440
Speaker 1: Jimmy g now that the good problem to have here

1203
01:04:00,520 --> 01:04:02,720
Speaker 1: is that Brady doesn't look close to the end of

1204
01:04:02,760 --> 01:04:04,480
Speaker 1: the line, but he is going to be forty. I

1205
01:04:04,560 --> 01:04:06,840
Speaker 1: think that's interesting too, because they are so well set

1206
01:04:06,920 --> 01:04:10,320
Speaker 1: up for another decade with with a backup they believe in.

1207
01:04:11,280 --> 01:04:14,360
Speaker 1: But Brady obviously isn't close to the end yet, but

1208
01:04:14,440 --> 01:04:16,560
Speaker 1: he is forty, so the end could come quickly. They

1209
01:04:16,640 --> 01:04:19,720
Speaker 1: traded Richard Seymour, they traded Drew bledso for obvious reasons

1210
01:04:19,760 --> 01:04:22,000
Speaker 1: they've traded all sorts of guys. When value is there,

1211
01:04:22,040 --> 01:04:23,920
Speaker 1: it's never gonna be this high, every right. I think

1212
01:04:23,960 --> 01:04:28,040
Speaker 1: they would have thought about offering Jimmy Garoppolo a weird

1213
01:04:28,160 --> 01:04:31,280
Speaker 1: sort of contract where it was the bases were low

1214
01:04:31,360 --> 01:04:33,200
Speaker 1: for a few years and then it spiked up with

1215
01:04:33,360 --> 01:04:37,560
Speaker 1: an option. If Tom Brady wasn't this good this year,

1216
01:04:37,600 --> 01:04:39,920
Speaker 1: if he was just if he had that gradual decline

1217
01:04:39,920 --> 01:04:41,800
Speaker 1: where he was like the eighth best quard, but he wasn't,

1218
01:04:41,800 --> 01:04:43,320
Speaker 1: he was too good for them to do right. The

1219
01:04:43,400 --> 01:04:46,000
Speaker 1: cost of keeping Garoppolo instead of trading him is messing

1220
01:04:46,120 --> 01:04:48,800
Speaker 1: up your salary cap by paying too high end quarterback

1221
01:04:49,280 --> 01:04:52,080
Speaker 1: moving on another quarterback that Oh this is really well

1222
01:04:52,160 --> 01:04:56,040
Speaker 1: put Mark the Courting of Cousins. I don't even remember

1223
01:04:56,160 --> 01:05:00,440
Speaker 1: writing that, but apparently I did. Uh. Yes, so, Mark,

1224
01:05:00,480 --> 01:05:03,360
Speaker 1: you don't expect Kirk Cousins planet for anyone but the Redskins.

1225
01:05:03,920 --> 01:05:07,160
Speaker 1: But at the same time, West, it seems like they're

1226
01:05:07,360 --> 01:05:09,560
Speaker 1: things are not things are a little choppy in DC

1227
01:05:09,640 --> 01:05:12,120
Speaker 1: about the quarterback position. Doesn't surprise you that this is

1228
01:05:12,360 --> 01:05:15,120
Speaker 1: something that's even something we need to be tracking like this? Yes,

1229
01:05:15,600 --> 01:05:17,880
Speaker 1: I love that Mark put that quote in there because

1230
01:05:17,920 --> 01:05:20,160
Speaker 1: I think this is one of the most overblown storylines

1231
01:05:20,200 --> 01:05:22,320
Speaker 1: of the off season. He's going to be the quarterback

1232
01:05:22,400 --> 01:05:25,760
Speaker 1: for the Redskins, and the GMS quote is telling I

1233
01:05:25,840 --> 01:05:28,080
Speaker 1: don't think it's as complicated as everyone wants to make it.

1234
01:05:28,200 --> 01:05:30,000
Speaker 1: And we'll get together with his agent, will come up

1235
01:05:30,000 --> 01:05:32,040
Speaker 1: with an agreement. That's what's gonna happen. He's gonna play

1236
01:05:32,040 --> 01:05:34,800
Speaker 1: for the Redskins. It'll probably be on the check though,

1237
01:05:35,120 --> 01:05:38,440
Speaker 1: right They said that last year too. Bruce Allen said, well,

1238
01:05:38,480 --> 01:05:41,160
Speaker 1: we're very confident we're gonna get a contract. He didn't.

1239
01:05:41,400 --> 01:05:44,439
Speaker 1: He didn't. So this idea that other teams want Kirk

1240
01:05:44,480 --> 01:05:46,640
Speaker 1: Cousins to the Redskins will just say, oh, take him.

1241
01:05:47,480 --> 01:05:49,600
Speaker 1: That's fine. Well, and someone reminds me of the rules

1242
01:05:49,640 --> 01:05:51,840
Speaker 1: of this, because I I feel a little uncomfortable about

1243
01:05:51,840 --> 01:05:54,800
Speaker 1: this idea, because if you franchise a guy the first time,

1244
01:05:54,880 --> 01:05:57,080
Speaker 1: I think it's the average of the top five salaries

1245
01:05:57,080 --> 01:05:59,439
Speaker 1: of the position, and if you do it a second time,

1246
01:06:00,040 --> 01:06:03,400
Speaker 1: it's something even more extreme, isn't it. It's a bump,

1247
01:06:03,480 --> 01:06:08,480
Speaker 1: I believe, which would make Kirk cut. And if anyone

1248
01:06:08,560 --> 01:06:10,400
Speaker 1: wants to come, they have to give up a lot

1249
01:06:10,520 --> 01:06:12,680
Speaker 1: traffic wise it to first. I believe if you don't

1250
01:06:12,720 --> 01:06:14,480
Speaker 1: make them the exclusive I think they would just make

1251
01:06:14,560 --> 01:06:16,760
Speaker 1: him even the exclusive tag where you can't even give him.

1252
01:06:16,800 --> 01:06:19,120
Speaker 1: And if that happens, if he makes million. You know

1253
01:06:19,120 --> 01:06:21,920
Speaker 1: who's doing really well for himself, Kurt Cousins, who will

1254
01:06:21,960 --> 01:06:25,360
Speaker 1: have essentially signed a two year, forty five million dollar right,

1255
01:06:25,480 --> 01:06:29,200
Speaker 1: Kirk Cousins. Kirk Cousins, It's good to be a quarterback

1256
01:06:29,640 --> 01:06:34,200
Speaker 1: Cleveland's offseason strategy. Uh. Next up on Mark's list. Uh,

1257
01:06:34,400 --> 01:06:37,200
Speaker 1: and we talked about that with Jimmy g Um. But

1258
01:06:37,400 --> 01:06:40,040
Speaker 1: what else? What else more? I think that's I think

1259
01:06:40,080 --> 01:06:42,000
Speaker 1: that's the that's really the big part of it. Are

1260
01:06:42,040 --> 01:06:44,360
Speaker 1: you going to use the picks to get a quarterback

1261
01:06:44,520 --> 01:06:46,760
Speaker 1: or you're going to try to continue to build around

1262
01:06:47,240 --> 01:06:50,240
Speaker 1: a non quarterback? Um. Next up on the list, Adrian

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Speaker 1: Peterson on the move. That's a question Mark. He's turning

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Speaker 1: thirty two next month. Uh was hurt and uh, you know,

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Speaker 1: really we didn't get to see much of him at

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Speaker 1: all last year. Uh. Where would this guy end up? Greg?

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Speaker 1: In your mind? If he hit the open market, and

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Speaker 1: what do you have a healthy market to choose from?

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Speaker 1: I mean, he'll have suitors. He's not gonna make a

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Speaker 1: ton of money because he's an aging running back. I

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Speaker 1: mean he he'll I mean it depends what you count

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Speaker 1: a ton of money. I'd take six or seven million dollars,

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Speaker 1: you know, in a one year contractor for twelve. Give

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Speaker 1: it to me, baby. Uh, the Giants make a lot

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Speaker 1: of sense to me. That just pops off my head.

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Speaker 1: He's a fascinating player because I think we don't know

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Speaker 1: how what percentage he is of what he was a

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Speaker 1: couple of years ago. I think he can still play,

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Speaker 1: but the NFL has moved to an era where his

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Speaker 1: skill set doesn't fit most offenses. He's a net negative

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Speaker 1: in the passing game. Right now, look at the look

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Speaker 1: at the Super Bowl, I mean, look at the Patriots

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Speaker 1: and exactly right. And finally, then you could read all

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Speaker 1: of marks piece on NFL dot com slash Sessler. Uh,

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Speaker 1: that's the plug that you would ask for privately, Mark

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Speaker 1: before the show. Well, that just it just throws you

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Speaker 1: to a rather jumbled an author page. So anyway, here's

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Speaker 1: the bonus. Mark. I would love for you to read

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Speaker 1: this list in full, ultra tedious storylines I refuse to entertain.

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Speaker 1: Let's hear it, Mark alright. Number one Blake portals a quote.

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Speaker 1: Newman and Jacksonville were all tired of that. Number two

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Speaker 1: Browns haven't lost faith in r G three, Give Me

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Speaker 1: a Break. Number three Roethlisberger is still toying with retirement.

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Speaker 1: Give me a Break, Part two. Number four Dom Caper's

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Speaker 1: building and quotes Tougher Packers Defense. Number five, Hackenburg ready

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Speaker 1: to make the leap in Floram Park. Number six, Bill

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Speaker 1: O'Brien colan, we can rock with Brock. Number seven Well,

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Speaker 1: number seven, Tom Brady colon Cantaloupe terrible for human digestive system.

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Speaker 1: Number eight, E J. Manual In quotes Peyton like in

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Speaker 1: Bill's minicamp forget about It. Number nine Brandon Marshall colon

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Speaker 1: Josh McCown will take That's to promise land. Number ten

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Speaker 1: Nadamic and sue Patriots vulnerable after free agent exodus, never

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Speaker 1: not writing about any of that. This is definitely the

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Speaker 1: everything was building to that paragraph. That's why you wrote this.

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Speaker 1: And I'm very entertaining. Mark, good stuff. Everybody that's today's show.

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Speaker 1: There is at a track that list, and see if

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Speaker 1: Mark writes anything on any of them. I'm I'm looking

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Speaker 1: forward to seeing the off season articles, he writes about

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Speaker 1: the Chargers. Comfy confines, he's very, very, very excited. I

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Speaker 1: really want to go there late June when we're looking

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Speaker 1: for you. How are you it's gonna happen in the

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Speaker 1: off season at the conn. I will feign sickness. Oh,

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Speaker 1: I just realized, well, Mark will be not at his desk. Way,

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Speaker 1: where's Mark. He's on the phone with the operations officer

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Speaker 1: of the Chargers. And you're doing a long form on

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Speaker 1: this new soccer arena. I can see. I can see

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Speaker 1: it now, whatever it takes. Alright, good stuff, all right?

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Speaker 1: And people who are curious, what is our off season

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Speaker 1: taping schedule? All right? In what are we doing next week? Guys,

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Speaker 1: what do we want to do next week? We're gonna

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Speaker 1: do two or three shows. That's the conversation we want

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Speaker 1: to have. We're gonna do it right now, Monday, Wednesday, Thursday.

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Speaker 1: That's typically what we did in the off season in

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Speaker 1: in very quiet time. Sometimes we back it off to

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Speaker 1: twice a week, so it's untime, but not yet. We're

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Speaker 1: not yet. We're gonna do uh, probably three shows next

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Speaker 1: week unless we do too. But we won't do less

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Speaker 1: than two, but we won't do more than three. And

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Speaker 1: then after you know, once, once we get close to

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Speaker 1: the comment, we'll be three shows a week until late

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Speaker 1: June or so mid June. Then it's a total shutdown

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Speaker 1: mail and now then we back it off to two

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Speaker 1: a week. But you're not people coming in and out.

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Speaker 1: We're not gonna be gone along long enough ever for

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Speaker 1: you guys to like start to miss us this this

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Speaker 1: break from Sunday to today's show. You'll never have to

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Speaker 1: wait that long for a show that is correct, promise you,

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Speaker 1: unless something terrible happens, at which point go get my

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Speaker 1: lunch dot org becomes finalized by the way, stick around

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Speaker 1: after the show for some real breaking news. There you go.

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Speaker 1: That's a good tease. All right, let's get out of here. Um.

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Speaker 1: This is Dan Hanses signing off for a quiet storm,

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Speaker 1: the mail Man, the Old Boss, and new Money behind

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Speaker 1: the Glass until Monday. Mark Sussler of the Around the

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Speaker 1: NFL podcast Here it's a bit of a post show

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Speaker 1: breaking news scenario. We learned recently that internationally acclaimed economist

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Speaker 1: Hands Rosling passed away this week and sad news, of course,

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Speaker 1: the world warns and we have on the line our

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Speaker 1: economic expert Mr F. High school economics teacher in the Hague,

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Speaker 1: the Netherlands. Mr F. Are you there, I'm here, Hi, Mark.

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Speaker 1: Obviously sad news. Can you maybe talk a little bit

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Speaker 1: about the reaction among your fellow economists, uh, and maybe

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Speaker 1: talk a little bit about who Hans Rosling was and

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Speaker 1: why he was important. Sure. I think the reaction was shocked.

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Speaker 1: He was pretty young, sixty eight, and he had a

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Speaker 1: short illness, so I think there was surprise from the

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Speaker 1: people I talked to about it because we hadn't known

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Speaker 1: how ill he was. And I think his importances is

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Speaker 1: it's hard to quantify for me, because I really appreciated

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Speaker 1: what he did. The most important thing for me from

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Speaker 1: his work was he was able to change people's opinions

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Speaker 1: about what was happening in the world by using facts

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Speaker 1: and figures and data statistics that he compiled to make

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Speaker 1: you really rethink um your opinions about development and the

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Speaker 1: poor and um and how the world was. And he

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Speaker 1: was extremely practical. He worked in human health in Africa

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Speaker 1: for years, and just a couple of years ago he

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Speaker 1: went to Liberia to work to help fight the Bola

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Speaker 1: outbreak that happened there. I mean he really put in

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Speaker 1: practice his his his knowledge of economics and statistics, and

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Speaker 1: that was of great health, of great help in public

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Speaker 1: health as well as in economic Where was he where

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Speaker 1: was he living at this period? So he's been in

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Speaker 1: Sweden teaching at the car lot um UM sorry um

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Speaker 1: the institute there, the main university, Karlinska Institute in Stockholm, Sweden,

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Speaker 1: the capital for probably boy, it's probably been like eight

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Speaker 1: years he's been there. And before that he was in

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Speaker 1: public health in in uh in Sub Saharan Africa. And

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Speaker 1: have you ever had a chance to meet him? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: I was fortunate enough to meet him at an education conference,

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Speaker 1: the e C I S Conference in Lisbon, Portugal, about

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Speaker 1: five six years ago, I think it was, and he

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Speaker 1: gave a presentation that I've already been teaching now for

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Speaker 1: twenty years at the time fifteen years is probably the

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Speaker 1: best presentation I've ever seen in terms of use of

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Speaker 1: visual information and sharing ideas and getting complex concepts across

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Speaker 1: to every person there. It was fantastic. And in speaking

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Speaker 1: of teaching, you have you know your own in the

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Speaker 1: front row, really had in the front row myself and

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Speaker 1: another economist sat in the front row, and then we

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Speaker 1: got our picture taken with him. It was kind of

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Speaker 1: a hero another fanboy moment. Well, I was talking to

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Speaker 1: you guy, Yeah, I was gonna say that. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I didn't realize that you'd had that kind of contact

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Speaker 1: with him, that he was very important. I mean to

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Speaker 1: your students, you teach high school students, do they find

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Speaker 1: him inspiring? Was he someone that was he able to

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Speaker 1: reach them in the on this topic of economics worldwide? Well?

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Speaker 1: They they always thought that his presentations were better than mine.

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Speaker 1: You know, he's just a great speaker. So when you

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Speaker 1: watched his his interviews, you could really tell his both

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Speaker 1: his understanding and his joy of the subject. And he

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Speaker 1: was both funny and knowledgeable, and he really was able

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Speaker 1: to share information. And my students have always enjoyed his presentations.

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Speaker 1: And actually we talked about his death, and we will

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Speaker 1: be watching a video for the introduction to development economics

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Speaker 1: with my seniors in next week. So yeah, he's still

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Speaker 1: you know, it's a great loss. Yeah, I'm here with

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Speaker 1: Mr Eff and we're talking about the passing of hands Rosling,

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Speaker 1: a very well known economists worldwide, died at a young

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Speaker 1: age too very sad news one. I mean, it is

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Speaker 1: an NFL show and we've probably thrown our listeners for

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Speaker 1: quite a loop at this point. Uh, would you compare him?

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Speaker 1: Is there any NFL figure that you could compare Rosling too?

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Speaker 1: Is there is there anyone else? This is tougher because

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Speaker 1: I'm not as knowledgeable, but I went to Uh, I

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Speaker 1: went to Westling, and I asked Chris for a little

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Speaker 1: help too. So I thought, Wade Phillips, you know, next

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Speaker 1: is no guys and funny? And Chris thought maybe his

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Speaker 1: dad bummed Phillips. And I also thought that really smart

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Speaker 1: wineman from Baltimore. I can't from the mathematician um Herschel

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Speaker 1: or something like that. Oh yeah, the guy that's on

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Speaker 1: all the commercials. Yes, over mathematical guy. Yeah yeah, So

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Speaker 1: I guess Hans Rosling was a really good excess and

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Speaker 1: out and excess and os guy who was also funny.

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Speaker 1: So whoever you got in your head for that, that's

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Speaker 1: love the comparison. Final question, is there are and maybe

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Speaker 1: you'd end up here someday if there is? Is there

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Speaker 1: an economics Hall of Fame out there? Um? I won't

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Speaker 1: end up there, but I think the Nobel Prize in economics.

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Speaker 1: He's probably the top Hall of Fame honor that's been

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Speaker 1: going on for almost fifty years, and there's some incredible

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Speaker 1: figures in that list, and there's some other lists, probably

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Speaker 1: some historical lists, but that would be one first. Sure, Well,

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Speaker 1: you never know, hopefully, you know, hopefully by appearing on

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Speaker 1: this podcast, it's setting the path ahead for you to

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Speaker 1: get the Nobel and more. Thank you for joining us. Uh,

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Speaker 1: It's always great to talk a little economic theory with you,

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Speaker 1: and we'll have you on the show again to talk

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Speaker 1: some football, I hope. Thanks Mark, as always, thanks so

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Speaker 1: much for the pot, and congrats to Greg and all

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Speaker 1: of you for a great season. Greg on the super

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Speaker 1: Bowl win, but also for all of you just fantastic

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Speaker 1: work as always. Yeah, it's really all about Greg and

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Speaker 1: the end. So we're very excited about that dynamic. All right,

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Speaker 1: we will talk with you soon. Thank you so much,