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Speaker 2: Welcome home, y'all.
Speaker 1: This is episode one hundred and sixteen of Native Lampod,
Speaker 1: where we give you all things politics and culture. I
Speaker 1: am your host, Angela Rie, joined by my good brother
Speaker 1: Andrew Gellim Bacari Sellers and joining us this week as
Speaker 1: a co host is the brilliant legal and scientific mind
Speaker 1: the former federal government worker that Trump hated to see
Speaker 1: coming content creator extraordinary Elizabeth Booker.
Speaker 2: Here's Dad.
Speaker 3: Well, y'all.
Speaker 1: Well, welcome home to Minnesota, though, because that's where we are,
Speaker 1: you know, I just want to jump right in.
Speaker 2: We have so much to cover in FYSA.
Speaker 1: That's for your situational awareness and for your situation, for
Speaker 1: your fyssay, for your situational awareness. We are in Minneapolis, Minnesota.
Speaker 1: I have my hat on, but they made me take
Speaker 1: it off. I had a hat on. But anyway, we
Speaker 1: are here because we'd love to see how Minnesota showed
Speaker 1: up for the world, and so we wanted to show
Speaker 1: up for Minnesota.
Speaker 2: So this is where we are.
Speaker 1: Tuesday night, Lady of Lampod held a live town hall
Speaker 1: at the Historic Capri Theater and partnership with State of
Speaker 1: the People, Minnesota Freedom Fund, and the Capri Theater, we
Speaker 1: provided free groceries, hygiene, kids, and legal services to Minnesota's
Speaker 1: We had an amazing guests including NAACP President Derrek Johnson, Minnesota
Speaker 1: Freedom funds Eli Dairis Janey, Amari Bates, Minister Janey of Isaiah,
Speaker 1: Attorney General Keith Ellison, who had this to say.
Speaker 4: This situation, this oppression that Minnesota is under right now,
Speaker 4: will not be solved in a courtroom. The real justice
Speaker 4: and the real freedom and the real true democracy will
Speaker 4: be because you go out in the street and demonstrate
Speaker 4: and say no to this oppression.
Speaker 5: It is the people.
Speaker 4: In the street, in the hearts and the minds of
Speaker 4: the people marching in nine below weather, standing up and
Speaker 4: saying no, We're not going to let you roll over
Speaker 4: us this way, which is going to win the day.
Speaker 4: Together with elections, together with the artists, together with all
Speaker 4: of these things that we collect to try to create
Speaker 4: a just society. And it's not overnight, And I cannot
Speaker 4: guarantee you perfect safety as you fight for justice. There's
Speaker 4: no guarantee of perfect safety. When an oppress or feels
Speaker 4: threatened that you're trying to be free yourself. So at
Speaker 4: the end of the day, friends, I am asking you
Speaker 4: to protest.
Speaker 1: I love that I am asking you to protest and
Speaker 1: doing that against all odds, even in the face of
Speaker 1: not being able to say I can protect you.
Speaker 2: But that is the only way to be.
Speaker 5: Two things stuck out about that. One is I'm not
Speaker 5: sure people really understand how cold it is in Minneapolis.
Speaker 5: He said, nine degrees. Belove, It's been zero. I don't
Speaker 5: even know if you put if a degree is plural
Speaker 5: or not. It's been zero degree grees whatever. It's cold
Speaker 5: as hell outside. And it adds a different layer of
Speaker 5: context to the people in their sacrifice, because you know,
Speaker 5: a lot of people want to be comfortable when they protest,
Speaker 5: and it ain't shit comfortable about Minneapolis, Minnesota right now outside.
Speaker 5: That's first. The second thing is it reminds me of
Speaker 5: my dad telling me about how they went to Philadelphia,
Speaker 5: Mississippi looking for the bodies of Goodman Schriner in Cheney,
Speaker 5: and during the day they had to hide in barns
Speaker 5: and sheds, and at night they would go out and
Speaker 5: looking ditches and trenches. And he was always like they
Speaker 5: couldn't wear belt buckles, they couldn't wear anything shiny. They
Speaker 5: just had to wear denim, and they had to wear
Speaker 5: dark colors because they didn't want to be identified, they
Speaker 5: didn't want to be seen, because you could not ensure
Speaker 5: people's safety. And so that is probably the direct parallel
Speaker 5: that I see. But it also harkens back and makes
Speaker 5: you really sober about the time period that we're in now.
Speaker 5: When you think about looking for Goodman, Schriner and Cheney
Speaker 5: and the attorney general who's the chief law enforcement officer
Speaker 5: of your state saying I cannot protect your safety. I
Speaker 5: mean that is those things jumped out at me pretty profoundly.
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's not surprising though, I mean that's what we've
Speaker 6: seen over and over again in you know, with history
Speaker 6: and everything.
Speaker 7: And I think it was.
Speaker 6: Derek who said last night that we've never seen anything
Speaker 6: like this, but we've always seen something like that. Yeah,
Speaker 6: So both of those statements are true, and it's not
Speaker 6: surprising that it's always been people in the community having
Speaker 6: to rise up and protect one another when it comes
Speaker 6: to the civil rights movement and you know, all of
Speaker 6: the fights for our rights, it's always been having to
Speaker 6: also work outside of the system, including the legal system,
Speaker 6: to actually keep each other safe.
Speaker 3: You know where the clip ended. The next few words
Speaker 3: from the Attorney General were peaceful protest. We want you
Speaker 3: to protest, and we want you to do so peacefully,
Speaker 3: which has been quite frankly, the tenor since the nation
Speaker 3: began paying attention to what's happening here. It's been peaceful,
Speaker 3: it's been passionate, it's been sacrificial, but it also has
Speaker 3: been incredibly impactful. Last night, the Lieutenant Governor of the state,
Speaker 3: Peggy Flanagan, said that they are that they are tired
Speaker 3: as but they continue to work. And she said it
Speaker 3: much more eloquently than I just repeated. But the sense
Speaker 3: that she was trying to communicate is, yes, they are exhausted.
Speaker 3: They are terribly exhausted. Their bodies are exhausted, their minds,
Speaker 3: their spirit, attitudes, everything about this would exhaust you, It
Speaker 3: would exhaust any of us. But yet day after day
Speaker 3: after day, you know, these folks keep showing up. They
Speaker 3: just keep doing it and exercising the muscle of consistency
Speaker 3: in this fight.
Speaker 5: Until you said that last night, that was profound. Can
Speaker 5: we back up just one say, hold on before we eat,
Speaker 5: know This is important. This is very important.
Speaker 1: I just want you all to know this is supposed
Speaker 1: to be a quick segment and these two every time
Speaker 1: go back.
Speaker 5: Let me let me just say this. Let me tell
Speaker 5: you one person that gets on my nerves Angela Rye.
Speaker 2: Wow.
Speaker 5: But let me also tell you last night would not
Speaker 5: have happened without Angela, and that that requires a point
Speaker 5: of personal privilege because as much as you get on
Speaker 5: our nerves, we recognize extremely quickly why people love you
Speaker 5: and why you're gravitational force and how you're able to
Speaker 5: pull off these things, and how you make Eddie Rye
Speaker 5: so proud because you were able to pull together a
Speaker 5: community that you're not from and do it so well,
Speaker 5: so diligent in five days, so well, so diligently. And yeah,
Speaker 5: I mean we put up with you, but we put
Speaker 5: up with you because the benefit far outweighs the getting
Speaker 5: on our nerves.
Speaker 1: Quotes I will. I want to do one thing. Do
Speaker 1: y'all forgive our setup today?
Speaker 7: Lolo.
Speaker 1: I want you to come around on camera. I think
Speaker 1: it's important that there.
Speaker 2: Be quiet. Come on, Lolo.
Speaker 1: The thing that I think is important is for people
Speaker 1: to understand it is not me operating in a vacuum.
Speaker 1: Oh yes, well then she doesn't really mean that, but
Speaker 1: she might mean she is to me our Charles Barkley,
Speaker 1: she's a utility player that knows how to get everything done.
Speaker 1: And I want to shout out Dowanna Thompson from State
Speaker 1: of the People and attorney Leslie Redmond here and Eli
Speaker 1: Davis and you got I'm serious.
Speaker 2: I would make a call.
Speaker 1: Yes, I Blue for setting up the fun from Minnesota
Speaker 1: Minnesota Freedom Fund the fundraising link. But also I want
Speaker 1: people to know there are many things when Tina mellikin
Speaker 1: Jane Bates like, there are things that I could not do,
Speaker 1: but I could call them and say, y'all, this is
Speaker 1: what we need, this is what we're trying to do.
Speaker 1: And Minnesota activated with and for NLP, and so did
Speaker 1: our State of the People family.
Speaker 2: So it was not me. I want. I just I
Speaker 2: get to.
Speaker 7: It's a lot of you.
Speaker 6: I don't know who else was gonna get me out
Speaker 6: of my house in the middle of the snowstore.
Speaker 7: I had to struggle walk across my front. I have
Speaker 7: my nebulazed women, y'all. I was on of all the
Speaker 7: things to be terrible. Imagine being bad at breathing.
Speaker 2: It's just is.
Speaker 7: But I'm here.
Speaker 6: Because I trust you and I appreciate the folks in
Speaker 6: Minnesota because, as you said, we're coming into a community
Speaker 6: that is not ours, and I always think, do I
Speaker 6: belong here?
Speaker 7: You know, there have been.
Speaker 6: Issues with other digital creators coming into Minneapolis and other
Speaker 6: folks not being very pleased about the way they've approaching.
Speaker 7: And I asked Georgia Fort.
Speaker 6: You know, I told her last time, I said, you know,
Speaker 6: I really contemplated your fort.
Speaker 7: She's amazing.
Speaker 6: And I said, do you know I didn't want to
Speaker 6: be in a space I should not be in or
Speaker 6: do not belong and and she said, no, I think
Speaker 6: it's important to have that support. And support is the word.
Speaker 6: It wasn't about taking over or you know, creating the
Speaker 6: narrative for Minnesota's but instead of amplifying it, and that's
Speaker 6: what you did.
Speaker 1: That's what we did. And on that I just wanted
Speaker 1: to say thank you, well, thank you, b thank you, Andrew,
Speaker 1: thank you, thank you Lolo, and thank you. Everybody in
Speaker 1: Minnesota and all of our.
Speaker 2: Partners called you.
Speaker 5: Charles Barkley, you can't get no rings man. That's terror,
Speaker 5: that's a terrible first.
Speaker 1: Guys, everybody knows that Charles Barkley was one of the
Speaker 1: greatest utility players of our time. Please ignore this, jackass,
Speaker 1: I mean, FYSA, you off message. Now, this is the
Speaker 1: thing that I also think is important with State of
Speaker 1: the People. We saw every city we were going to
Speaker 1: andrew right before we got there, something happened that necessitated
Speaker 1: us being there in coalition with local orgers and national orgs.
Speaker 1: And something happened in Minnesota Saturday too. We were already coming.
Speaker 1: We knew as a Thursday. We didn't know a whole week,
Speaker 1: but we knew as a Thursday we were going to
Speaker 1: be here. Something happened last Saturday. On January twenty fourth,
Speaker 1: Alex Preddy, which is who is a thirty seven year
Speaker 1: old intensive care nurse for the United States Department of
Speaker 1: Veterans Affairs, was murdered in cold blood. He was shot
Speaker 1: multiple times by Customs and Border Protection. That's a very
Speaker 1: important thing for you all to hear Customs and Border Protection,
Speaker 1: which is the Border Patrol CBP officers. After multiple contradictions
Speaker 1: at every level of government, Trump is now calling for
Speaker 1: de escalating a little bit, among other things.
Speaker 2: Let's roll the clip.
Speaker 8: We're gonna dsk a little bit, but I will tell
Speaker 8: you you look at the numbers, they're doing better than
Speaker 8: they've done in many years. As we had a very
Speaker 8: reasonable conversation, very good conversation, if you believe the conversation,
Speaker 8: he'd like to get this thing over with. I don't
Speaker 8: like the fact that he was carrying a gun that
Speaker 8: was fully loaded and he had two magazines with him,
Speaker 8: and it's pretty unusual, but nobody knows when they saw
Speaker 8: the gun, how they saw the gun, everything else. The
Speaker 8: bottom lineer was terrible. Both of them were terrible. The
Speaker 8: other was terrible too. And I'm not sure about his parents,
Speaker 8: but I know her parents were big Trump fans. Makes
Speaker 8: me feel bad anyway, But I mean, I guess you
Speaker 8: could say even worse.
Speaker 1: Well, you know this man, I mean, he is a sociopath.
Speaker 1: I just I have to say this, and we'll get
Speaker 1: to this later. We're gonna have a full on conversation
Speaker 1: about alex Pretty's Second Amendment and when it applies and
Speaker 1: who it gets to apply to. But it is fascinating
Speaker 1: to me that he would focus so much on whether
Speaker 1: or not they were supporters. When you take the oath
Speaker 1: of office, y'all know this too. When you take the
Speaker 1: oath of office, you are serving everyone in your district,
Speaker 1: in your constituency. He's supposed to be serving the whole
Speaker 1: of America and all of our partners, all of you know,
Speaker 1: all of our allies. That's not what he's doing. He's
Speaker 1: like depending on if you're a Trump fan, not a supporter,
Speaker 1: a Trump fan, then he gets you get a different
Speaker 1: level of play.
Speaker 2: I just think it's crazy.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's why in some ways it called the oath solemn,
Speaker 3: because there's some people on the other side who did
Speaker 3: everything in their power to ensure that you didn't descend
Speaker 3: to whatever that position of public trust is. But you
Speaker 3: make that oath, and you take that oath so seriously
Speaker 3: and so solemnly because you need the strength of not
Speaker 3: only your oath and your word, but your faith and
Speaker 3: everything else to keep you honest to it throughout the
Speaker 3: term of your service. That you've got to be. When
Speaker 3: you're elected governor, you're not governor for the people who
Speaker 3: voted for you. When you're elected mayor, is not that
Speaker 3: your mayor for the folks who went out and supported
Speaker 3: you and voted for you and didn't have a negative
Speaker 3: thing to say about you. You've got to be there
Speaker 3: in defense and protect and in service to all of them.
Speaker 3: And this president it's a hard lesson for him to learn.
Speaker 3: He's still not learned it. He's on his second term,
Speaker 3: in his third try, you know, for president, and it's
Speaker 3: not a lisson he's learned. But I also, you know,
Speaker 3: like so many things in Trump's America right now, we've
Speaker 3: had to de sensitize ourselves and lower our expectations for
Speaker 3: what the outcome is going to be. We're at the
Speaker 3: lowest basic, lowest common point of agreement when it comes
Speaker 3: to what to expect from this administration. I appreciated the
Speaker 3: President acknowledging how difficult the loss of both these souls are.
Speaker 3: I don't know how sincere it is, but it was
Speaker 3: important for the President to allow those words to cross
Speaker 3: his lips and for the American people to hear it.
Speaker 3: Whether we believe it fully or not, it's still needed
Speaker 3: to be said. And so that's the most supportive thing
Speaker 3: I can say about you know, those commons.
Speaker 7: I don't even.
Speaker 2: That's the statement say.
Speaker 6: Look, I will just say that I think a little
Speaker 6: bit differently about the fact that he said those words,
Speaker 6: is that means trying to see why A Okay, he
Speaker 6: is trying to cover his ass, and that's what he's
Speaker 6: trying to do. And so there's a little bit in there.
Speaker 6: He sprinkles in there, a tiny bit of humanity, not
Speaker 6: because I think he feels it, but because he knows
Speaker 6: people are watching, and he knows that people are getting
Speaker 6: pissed and they're getting sick and tired of him, and
Speaker 6: we're seeing it more and more across the country. So
Speaker 6: I just look at it as you know what. I
Speaker 6: don't believe him, but I think that that is a
Speaker 6: strong indicator that he knows that his popularity, his approval,
Speaker 6: and everything is declining.
Speaker 1: One thing we see often is when superstars use their
Speaker 1: platform to speak to an issue, sometimes it gets a
Speaker 1: little bit more attention.
Speaker 2: So San Antonio superstar Victor.
Speaker 1: When Biyama Wimby also spoke up about Alex Pretty and
Speaker 1: his own struggle with speaking out period given his immigration
Speaker 1: status in this country, let's roll.
Speaker 9: That pr has tried it. I'm not going to sit
Speaker 9: here and give completely correct you know, I know, uh,
Speaker 9: I mean I'm this every day I wake up and
Speaker 9: see the news and I'm horrified. I think the it's
Speaker 9: crazy that some people might make it seem like or
Speaker 9: make it sound like it's acceptable the murder, like the
Speaker 9: murder of civilians is acceptable, you.
Speaker 5: Know every day.
Speaker 9: I mean, I I read the news and I'm sometimes
Speaker 9: I'm asking very deep questions about my own life. But
Speaker 9: you know, I'm conscious also that saying everything you know
Speaker 9: that's on my mind would have a cost that's too
Speaker 9: great for me right now. So it's a I'd rather
Speaker 9: not get into too many details. Is that kind of
Speaker 9: a big factor in this, that people have that fear
Speaker 9: that if they speak openly about an injustice they see,
Speaker 9: there can be repercussions. Oh for sure, I mean.
Speaker 7: It's terrible.
Speaker 9: It's a and you know, you know, I know, I know,
Speaker 9: I'm I'm a foreigner, you know, I live in this country. No,
Speaker 9: I am concerned for sure.
Speaker 3: Is that part of your hesitance being a foreigner? Does
Speaker 3: that play into.
Speaker 9: Your Oh for sure, for sure. I mean it's uh yeah,
Speaker 9: people speaking their mind, no matter no matter the subject,
Speaker 9: you know, And it's I think it's it definitely takes
Speaker 9: some balls, it itch, and every one of us has
Speaker 9: to decide the price, you know, we're willing to pay.
Speaker 3: And you decided that today.
Speaker 9: You could have said, yeah, I think I think, I
Speaker 9: think that's enough details though for now, you know, if
Speaker 9: privately we can discuss it, maybe later, but not right now.
Speaker 5: Three points and two of them are the same. The
Speaker 5: first is when he first opened his mouth, he said,
Speaker 5: PR tried, they did. That's what he said. That stuck
Speaker 5: out to me. And sometimes I listen to people as
Speaker 5: a lawyer, like I'm about to cross examine them, and
Speaker 5: so things stick out. He said, PR tried. And then
Speaker 5: he went and directly told you that the risk of
Speaker 5: speaking his mind truly outweighed what he could afford at
Speaker 5: this time. So those things were like one A, one
Speaker 5: B for me. And the second thing is where he's from.
Speaker 5: So let's talk about the first. I mean. The reporter
Speaker 5: dug deep and said, yeah, I mean, the president has
Speaker 5: been extremely successful at stifling free speech in this country,
Speaker 5: being a free speech absolutionist. By the way, those who
Speaker 5: are listening and not watching, I'm using air quotes right,
Speaker 5: And it's fascinating to see how they find themselves in
Speaker 5: the mode of Charlie Kirk, who want to be these
Speaker 5: free speech abolitionists, but yet their goal is to stifle
Speaker 5: create fear and get people like Victor Winbiyamba also known
Speaker 5: as Winby to be able to get on and not
Speaker 5: use this platform, kind of contrary to Steve Kerr, who
Speaker 5: says whatever the Steve Kerr wants to say when he
Speaker 5: wants to say it. It also has to do with
Speaker 5: the fact that Steve Kurr and Golden State and has
Speaker 5: a very unique ownership that don't care. And Victor finds
Speaker 5: himself in San Antonio, Texas, right, they might deport his
Speaker 5: ass tomorrow. Okay. The other thing is like Victor's from France, right,
Speaker 5: it just highlights how the rest of the world is
Speaker 5: looking at us. Victor really wanted to say, like, like
Speaker 5: they're killing people in the street using totalitarian therapy, how
Speaker 5: you pronounce it, authoritarian regimes, and y'all voted for this shit,
Speaker 5: like that's what he wanted to say, Like the people
Speaker 5: who come to my games, the people who pay my salary,
Speaker 5: y'all voted for this. And he wanted to be like,
Speaker 5: I don't understand. I don't this is not very French,
Speaker 5: I don't understand it. And that's how the rest of
Speaker 5: the world is looking at us. With this kind of
Speaker 5: a funnlement.
Speaker 1: Well, and to that point, I think it's important for
Speaker 1: us to understand why tensions are so high. Of course,
Speaker 1: even when you have status and you are making millions
Speaker 1: upon millions every year as an NBA player, it's still
Speaker 1: hard to speak up. Apparently, hopefully he will find his courage.
Speaker 1: But I'm grateful for what he did say. But as
Speaker 1: a result of the rising tensions throughout the country and
Speaker 1: the inability of this White House to tone down hateful rhetoric,
Speaker 1: members of Congress have come under attack this past week.
Speaker 1: In Florida, Congressman Maxwell Frost was punched, and just on Tuesday,
Speaker 1: right down the street from where our town hall was
Speaker 1: being held, ilhan Omar, Congressoman Ilhan Omar was subjected to
Speaker 1: an attack by an erratic white man at her own
Speaker 1: town hall event.
Speaker 2: You know, him must resign or face impeachment. I don't know.
Speaker 2: We will continue this. I'm not going to get away,
Speaker 2: an't you.
Speaker 1: The GOP response was it was staged And this is
Speaker 1: what Donald Trump said to Rachel Scott in a phone
Speaker 1: interview on Tuesday night. Rachel says, just spoke to President Trump,
Speaker 1: and we're putting that tweet up for you all as well.
Speaker 1: But for those listening if he had seen the video
Speaker 1: of Representative Omar being attacked and sprayed by a substance.
Speaker 1: His quote, no, I don't think about her. I think
Speaker 1: she's a fraud. I really don't think about that. She
Speaker 1: probably had herself sprayed knowing her end quote. He says
Speaker 1: that he hasn't seen the video and he doesn't have
Speaker 1: to bother And so this, you know, reminds me of
Speaker 1: what he said around January sixth, or what he refused
Speaker 1: to say.
Speaker 2: Around January sixth.
Speaker 1: And in a moment like this where he's talking about
Speaker 1: whether or not Alex Pretty's family or fans, or whether
Speaker 1: or not Renee Good's family are friends, he's still about
Speaker 1: one of Minnesota's representatives, Stokey the flame.
Speaker 6: And I mean, are we really surprised after the response
Speaker 6: or let's say, non response to the assassination of Melissa Hartman.
Speaker 7: It's true we keep seeing this over again.
Speaker 5: That Jesus, we're not right down the street.
Speaker 6: It was, yeah, and you know, it's it's been really
Speaker 6: difficult to impress upon folks. I feel like, especially just
Speaker 6: when I'm when I'm on the hill. I went into
Speaker 6: some of the white male Democratic congressman offices, and I said, hey,
Speaker 6: y'all need to do more because we're seeing our especially
Speaker 6: our black members of Congress. We're seeing women, We're seeing
Speaker 6: other people who don't have your white male privilege being attacked.
Speaker 6: We see Lamonica mcguver facing seventeen years in prison for
Speaker 6: doing her job.
Speaker 7: We've seen now Illhan Omar.
Speaker 6: Being attacked, Maxwell Frost being punched, and by the way,
Speaker 6: while while he was being punched, the man was yelling
Speaker 6: racial slurs. There's no question about the fact that that
Speaker 6: was a racially motivated attack.
Speaker 5: Candy, tell me, like exactly, because I mean, like with
Speaker 5: ill Omar, you can see it. Well, il Han, I'm
Speaker 5: sorry forgive me. I've been struggling all morning what happened
Speaker 5: with Maxwell Frost because I saw like the tweet, but like,
Speaker 5: I don't know, he got like a sun dance.
Speaker 7: Yeah he was. He was at a sundance, festive sundance.
Speaker 2: I didn't realize it was at sundance.
Speaker 5: They done that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and no, it's in, it's in. It's in Salt Lakes.
Speaker 2: It's in right outside of Salt Lake City.
Speaker 7: Yeah, it was a sundance and a man.
Speaker 2: But it's a very progressive space.
Speaker 6: Generally exactly, and this man ran up to him and
Speaker 6: was yelling racial slurs at him and punched him and
Speaker 6: then ran and the guy got arrested.
Speaker 7: They did end up getting him and arresting him. But yeah,
Speaker 7: it happened at Sundance.
Speaker 2: That's insane.
Speaker 5: Well to represent omar one, you didn't even Okay, she did.
Speaker 5: He pronounced the first name because you don'tt to.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we get that. But even despite what appeared to
Speaker 3: be security sort of attempting to usher her off and
Speaker 3: sort of bring this thing to a close, she, like
Speaker 3: a g pivoted that she had her fisto, she was
Speaker 3: her own security and no offense to those who were
Speaker 3: really securing her. But in truth, the woman stood up
Speaker 3: and she was prepared to defend herself. But moreover, she
Speaker 3: didn't allow this event, this important public event where citizens
Speaker 3: get access to their government to ask questions and to
Speaker 3: push her and to hold her accountable and to encourage her.
Speaker 3: She wanted to keep it going, and she did, in
Speaker 3: fact keep it going. But Trump's comments on that, I mean,
Speaker 3: he's an egotist, a megalomaniac. He doesn't have And again
Speaker 3: we keep saying we need a mental health professional to
Speaker 3: aid us. But it is. It is absolutely true. I
Speaker 3: think there is something debilitating about this condition that does
Speaker 3: not allow your horizon to look beyond your own sunset. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I mean, you'll, you'll, you know, you're coming up in
Speaker 3: the morning, you're going down at night. Everything revolved around you.
Speaker 3: And maybe he's capable. I don't know. I've just never
Speaker 3: seen it. I've never seen it from him. And at
Speaker 3: some point one of y'all are gonna seend in a video,
Speaker 3: one of you health professionals out there, and we're going
Speaker 3: to get to show it on these on this podcast.
Speaker 3: That will tell us a little bit more about what
Speaker 3: this condition is. It's still not an excuse because he
Speaker 3: shouldn't be president under such conditions. The people should have
Speaker 3: sessed this out before this point. Yet they saw it,
Speaker 3: they are okay with it, they approved it, and then
Speaker 3: they send it right back a second time.
Speaker 7: So we kind of just say real quick that.
Speaker 6: Also, I think it's amazing that Representative Ilhan Omar didn't
Speaker 6: like stick a bandate on her face and make a
Speaker 6: good deal about the time, like I just you know,
Speaker 6: I just want to point out the.
Speaker 5: I would have fallen down ambulance taken me out. I
Speaker 5: would have called my wife baby, this might be the
Speaker 5: big one.
Speaker 3: I don't know, flopping in the spirit of Minnesota right now.
Speaker 3: These are the people who take licks, and they keep taking,
Speaker 3: keep showing up, they keep standing, they keep fighting. And
Speaker 3: her response is represented of that.
Speaker 1: And zero degree, as Bakari would say, So we do
Speaker 1: have to ask ourselves how we claim our power in
Speaker 1: the face of authoritarianism and teer being brought to the
Speaker 1: front doors of Americans all over the country. It may
Speaker 1: not be replacing Border Patrol Commander Bavino for borders, our
Speaker 1: Tom Homan, but could it be another fight by Congress
Speaker 1: to force yet another shutdown, but this time for ice funding. Andrew,
Speaker 1: you say, not likely. Why is that they got funded anyway?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 3: I mean the bacarty and I yesterday was sort of
Speaker 3: trying to get to the root of what a government
Speaker 3: shutdown might look like. And just you know, before our
Speaker 3: listeners and viewers, the Democrats have threatened the leader of
Speaker 3: the Senate, Chuck Schumer. On the Democratics side, of course,
Speaker 3: have threatened to withhold the Democratic votes that would be
Speaker 3: necessary to cross the sixty votes that are required to
Speaker 3: implement these five funding bills. You've got members of the
Speaker 3: Democratic Party in the US Senate who hate shutdowns just
Speaker 3: outright don't believe in them. But I believe the the
Speaker 3: deaths of well, very specifically Alex pretty this past weekend
Speaker 3: put a number of them over the edge to the
Speaker 3: point where they said, we're not supporting a funding resolution
Speaker 3: for ICE. Now, Bacari helped me if I go off
Speaker 3: track here, but my understanding is is that even if
Speaker 3: the Senate were to withhold the support for the funding
Speaker 3: bill for Ice, that because of the passages of the
Speaker 3: quote big beautiful bill, they will still get the seven
Speaker 3: three million that they are in line to receive, which
Speaker 3: represents three times what their previous budget was.
Speaker 5: Yeah. So, I mean a shutdown only prevents them from
Speaker 5: getting about ten billion dollars, which is what they were
Speaker 5: budgeted for, which doesn't stop any operations from going forward.
Speaker 5: But what it does do is that it stops the
Speaker 5: other functions of the Department of Homeland Security, you know
Speaker 5: they have, and it particularly now when you're in the
Speaker 5: middle of winter storms, et cetera. I just don't know
Speaker 5: how advised that is. There's also something else that we
Speaker 5: haven't touched on yet, and I know we haven't been
Speaker 5: here but like almost thirty minutes. But it's fascinating to
Speaker 5: me two things, how the country reacts when they're able
Speaker 5: to see violence everything. For me, I see through a
Speaker 5: cultural civil rights land. So it reminds me of like
Speaker 5: nineteen the Evan Pet's Bridge, right, nineteen sixties. Yeah, bloody Sunday,
Speaker 5: because white folk outside of the South were able to
Speaker 5: see what happened to black folk on that bridge. But
Speaker 5: it also begs the question that we always ask ourselves,
Speaker 5: like what happens when they start killing white folk? Like
Speaker 5: that is a looming question amongst most people in this
Speaker 5: country that don't find themselves to be white, And like
Speaker 5: we're seeing that now we're getting the answers to that.
Speaker 5: I mean, Donald Trump, who we never thought would fold
Speaker 5: or bend, is talking about pulling ice out of Minnesota
Speaker 5: because a white woman and a white man were.
Speaker 3: Killed more specifically the white man, right.
Speaker 5: No, more specifically the white male correct. Correct. But you
Speaker 5: see how now you know? And that's why I've always
Speaker 5: said that the country's never going to change unless white
Speaker 5: male evangelicals want it to mean it just it will
Speaker 5: never truly change directions until But it's almost like parallel
Speaker 5: parking of submarine. The cost for our change and we're
Speaker 5: seeing is so high. But what happens when you when
Speaker 5: the country sees a white man gunned down by law
Speaker 5: enforcement compared to when a country sees a black man
Speaker 5: gunned down by law enforcement? And we're seeing that reaction
Speaker 5: play out. And I just think that's a fascinating question
Speaker 5: that we're able to at least have some data to
Speaker 5: tangle with.
Speaker 2: Now we have.
Speaker 1: Another white man, well he's black, especially because we might
Speaker 1: have the old Kanye back.
Speaker 2: Kanye West took out.
Speaker 5: He went around and around. I was like, Oh, I
Speaker 5: was like, where we go? They what?
Speaker 2: No.
Speaker 1: Kanye West took out a full page ad in the
Speaker 1: Wall Street Journal apologizing for past anti Semitic and anti
Speaker 1: black rhetoric. He blamed his behavior on neurological damage dimman
Speaker 1: from his traumatic two thousand and two car accident, and
Speaker 1: he says, quote, twenty five years ago, I was in
Speaker 1: a car accident that broke my jaw. They if y'all
Speaker 1: know that it caused injury to the right frontal lobe
Speaker 1: of my brain. At the time, the focus was on
Speaker 1: the visible damage, the fracture, the swelling, and the.
Speaker 2: Immediate physical trauma.
Speaker 1: The deeper injury, the one inside my skull, went unnoticed.
Speaker 2: It went unnoticed for us, friend, it was not unnoticed.
Speaker 1: Fuss.
Speaker 3: Can we talk about the venue though for this journal?
Speaker 2: Oh, it's all very clear.
Speaker 6: Way, Yeah, that was us and who Yeah, this says
Speaker 6: a first of all, Kanye as a as a former
Speaker 6: big Kanye fan, been to your shows, you know, all
Speaker 6: the good.
Speaker 7: Stuff go to hell.
Speaker 6: Sorry, I don't want your apology because I will never
Speaker 6: forget this. Slavery was a choice according to you.
Speaker 7: I'm not welcoming you back home. I don't know how
Speaker 7: everybody else feels. I'm not. I'm not.
Speaker 3: You go back through the wire.
Speaker 6: I hope Jesus walks with you.
Speaker 7: You know, good luck.
Speaker 6: But yeah, the fact that he put this in the
Speaker 6: Wall Street Journal, you were not You're not talking to us.
Speaker 7: You were not talking to us.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I want to see what happens next. The apology
Speaker 5: actually has me intrigued about what happens next. It's like,
Speaker 5: who was that Reagan or Nixon who said trust but
Speaker 5: verify Reagan, I don't know, I remember the mixing. It
Speaker 5: was one of them. I confused them. It was one
Speaker 5: of them that said.
Speaker 7: That going far too late.
Speaker 5: Yes, I've never heard anybody smart. I've never heard of that.
Speaker 2: I had to pick.
Speaker 7: I did a coin that there's a page. There's a
Speaker 7: page that.
Speaker 6: Put that on their bio and it's a Ronald Reagan
Speaker 6: page that every day reminds us that he's dead. Yeah,
Speaker 6: so shout out to that TikTok account.
Speaker 5: I need to get TikTok. But I don't know, man.
Speaker 5: I think I think that his mama's death broke him.
Speaker 5: I think you can directly pinpoint when he when he changed.
Speaker 5: And I think that that relationship and Miss Donna Dondams doctor,
Speaker 5: wasn't it, doctor doctor Donda West was such an influence
Speaker 5: on his life. And you know the bipolar disorder that
Speaker 5: we know he has, the car accident that he's been through.
Speaker 5: I'm not excusing anything because he's inflicted so much pain.
Speaker 5: I mean, he's been a wrecking ball to various cultures,
Speaker 5: right and starting with his own. But I'm I am.
Speaker 5: I am someone who if they do the work, I
Speaker 5: believe that there should be a path that is adorned
Speaker 5: by grace that gets you back there. But if you
Speaker 5: just if you are just putting apologies in the Wall
Speaker 5: Street journal.
Speaker 6: That ain't It matters.
Speaker 3: Where you start, though, right like it matters. It matters
Speaker 3: to me that slavery was a choice. Was that Howard
Speaker 3: University where he knew that his at CMC, he said
Speaker 3: it there, but he also on the campus shortly after,
Speaker 3: on the campus of Howard because the students were getting
Speaker 3: back at him. He was, you know, perched above the
Speaker 3: students and they were, you know, having it out with him.
Speaker 3: But but essentially his message got to its intended audience.
Speaker 3: In this case, I have to question the forum very
Speaker 3: very seriously. I'm not joking about that, because that day
Speaker 3: it matters where you go to deliver that message, if
Speaker 3: you're sincere about it, if it's a pr stunt, if
Speaker 3: you're if you want the Jewish community to read it,
Speaker 3: and and and financial times wasn't available, and so you chose.
Speaker 3: You know, It's just I have questions about that. But
Speaker 3: the good thing, his redemption is not in my hands
Speaker 3: or yours anymore. Right, there's enough forum for that. But
Speaker 3: but his work absolutely going forward, it just needs to
Speaker 3: be and very clear to the rest of us what
Speaker 3: you're meaning to do.
Speaker 7: He got a lot of work to do, he does.
Speaker 1: And and since so do we and in not a
Speaker 1: lot of times, Kanye, that's all the time you get
Speaker 1: on this podcast.
Speaker 2: In the Trump era, you.
Speaker 5: Can join the podcast when.
Speaker 2: We're gonna have to do that. They have kicked him out.
Speaker 6: But in the Trump come home, yeah, a stop, stop.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna it should be a question welcome home yet welcome.
Speaker 2: Home, Kanye? If you welcome home Kanye, Yeah, is not welcome.
Speaker 5: But welcome son.
Speaker 2: Hey, now you're talking.
Speaker 7: You know what this was saying.
Speaker 2: I'm with you when you're right.
Speaker 6: His mama called him Kanye. I'm gonna call him Kanye.
Speaker 7: I got that.
Speaker 1: In the Trump era, apparently the question is who has
Speaker 1: a right to bear arms. For our deeper dive today,
Speaker 1: we're gonna talk a lot about Alex Preddy, the Second Amendment,
Speaker 1: the conversation around him being armed, and how they've weaponized it.
Speaker 7: Nobody knows.
Speaker 1: Let's take a moment to talk about what the White
Speaker 1: House and CBP first had to say about Alex pretty
Speaker 1: versus what they are saying now in part, in large
Speaker 1: part because of what the community is saying about who
Speaker 1: this man was. And so I want to start here
Speaker 1: first with Border Patrol commander who's been deported from Minnesota,
Speaker 1: the Vino who blames Alex Pretty for his own murder.
Speaker 10: It just it sort of feels like we're in the
Speaker 10: upside down where we have law enforcement and conservatives who
Speaker 10: are very pro Second Amendment saying the problem was that
Speaker 10: he had a gun legally.
Speaker 11: No, the problem is, as I said several times now,
Speaker 11: is he injected himself. He put himself or he did
Speaker 11: not need to be. He put himself in and put
Speaker 11: law enforcement officers in jeopardy through his actions. These were
Speaker 11: his actions, not law enforcement officers action. We had to
Speaker 11: react to an individual that came there for a specific reason.
Speaker 3: I want, can we just because there lies? It really
Speaker 3: has been the bane of my existence watching coverage over
Speaker 3: this last several weeks, that almost every story began with
Speaker 3: the official statement of the government, the White Houses statement,
Speaker 3: which any journalists out there could see with their own
Speaker 3: eyes was a lie. I mean, it's not a it's
Speaker 3: not a variation, a deviation from the facts. It's not
Speaker 3: a reasonable set of interpretations. These people went out and
Speaker 3: they lied. So what he is saying, mister Pretty did
Speaker 3: to put himself between law enforcement. What he did was
Speaker 3: is he extended his hand to help a woman up
Speaker 3: who ice agents were assaulting all because she had her
Speaker 3: phone camera phone out recording and documenting what was happening there.
Speaker 3: He went to help her up, Are you okay? And
Speaker 3: then they aggressed upon him, right that that's that's what happened,
Speaker 3: that's what we saw. And mister Bungee, you know, Bunge,
Speaker 3: you know, whichever, mister racist in chief completely went out
Speaker 3: in front of the national press score any lie about
Speaker 3: what all of us saw with our own eyes.
Speaker 5: But to add even more context to that, it's important
Speaker 5: to note. And that's why whenever you look at these things,
Speaker 5: you cannot be reactionary, because context matters. Not only did
Speaker 5: he protect a woman who was being assaulted, indoor, pepper sprayed,
Speaker 5: or whatever that fact may be, mister Pretti was also
Speaker 5: a nurse at the Veterans Hospital. And if you add
Speaker 5: that context to it, when you see someone that is
Speaker 5: in harm's way and you're a medical professional, you're more
Speaker 5: inclined to prevent whatever danger they're going through from exacerbating, right,
Speaker 5: And so all of that context matters. You get into
Speaker 5: this question about the Second Amendment and you have these
Speaker 5: Second Amendment absolutionists. Again that word I'm using it a
Speaker 5: lot today. But we've learned through our experience that the
Speaker 5: constitutional amendments that we hold to be true don't apply
Speaker 5: equally at all at all, I mean, And the best
Speaker 5: example that I can give you is there too. Is
Speaker 5: one is Jacob Blake, who not far away from here,
Speaker 5: was gunned down in Milwaukee. And then you also had
Speaker 5: cal Rittenhouse, who was underage, who illegally possessed a weapon.
Speaker 5: And the only weapon that the quote unquote aggressor had
Speaker 5: was a skateboard. Right, And so you just see the
Speaker 5: juxtaposition of the way the Second Amendment is applied to
Speaker 5: different people. And the tragedy is that you have these
Speaker 5: forty seven hour men. And that's not a good thing.
Speaker 5: When I call you a forty seven hour man, that
Speaker 5: means that ain't no that ain't that ain't in the bed.
Speaker 5: That is you ain't got no training. Right, They got
Speaker 5: forty seven hours of training. They out there trying to
Speaker 5: deal with folks. You saw his best seven days forty
Speaker 5: seven days excuse me, forty seven day man that they
Speaker 5: they got forty seven days of training. And you can
Speaker 5: see it, I mean, you can see that the way
Speaker 5: that they engaged this man, weapon or not he had
Speaker 5: every right to have that weapon on him, every right.
Speaker 6: And I also want to just I know you mentioned
Speaker 6: Jacob Blake, but I also thought of Filando cast still
Speaker 6: sure and I'm thinking, you know, he was pulled over, yep,
Speaker 6: said Hi, I have my gun. I'm a licensed gun carrier.
Speaker 7: And he was shot and.
Speaker 5: Killed, murdered, murdered.
Speaker 3: And then at the time, similarly, the NRA didn't really
Speaker 3: statements after so many of these situations where black men
Speaker 3: have been legally armed or at least declared their weapons,
Speaker 3: and no statement of support. Now this, unfortunately, I mean,
Speaker 3: we saw an exception, right the gun Caucus of this
Speaker 3: state came out with a statement.
Speaker 5: The NRA.
Speaker 3: Came out supposedly with a statement basically saying, you know,
Speaker 3: the government has it wrong that being a law abidying
Speaker 3: gun carrying, concealed permit, weapon owning person is not a
Speaker 3: license to kill.
Speaker 7: It's not a license to kill.
Speaker 6: And it keeps happening so often that we don't see,
Speaker 6: as you said, like the stories uplifted.
Speaker 7: A black man.
Speaker 6: How many of y'all know about Steven Aeskew. He was
Speaker 6: murdered in Memphis. So this was I believe twenty sixteen.
Speaker 6: I think it was when I had just started law school,
Speaker 6: and not a lot of people know about this case.
Speaker 6: But he had parked his car at his girlfriend's apartment
Speaker 6: and he had fallen asleep waiting on her to come home,
Speaker 6: and police came to look at the car because they
Speaker 6: thought it was suspicious, saw his gun that he had
Speaker 6: a license to carry in the passenger seat, and just
Speaker 6: started shooting at him. They startled him awake, and then
Speaker 6: they shot into the car and killed him. And there
Speaker 6: was never any justice. And there's stories like this all
Speaker 6: over the country that we don't hear unless you know,
Speaker 6: you live in the community or you heard it from somebody.
Speaker 6: And I also just want to touch on real quick
Speaker 6: what you said about the forty seven days of training
Speaker 6: that I think is really key for people to understand.
Speaker 6: I'm saying this as a former federal employee. I want
Speaker 6: to remind you all that these ice agents, Customs and
Speaker 6: Border pat all these are federal employees. Okay, these people
Speaker 6: have no suit security clearance. I want to make that
Speaker 6: very clear. These people who have just been hired have
Speaker 6: no security clearance. These people have not been thoroughly vetted.
Speaker 6: They have fired so many people in the federal government
Speaker 6: that includes federal investigators, and even before we had this shortage,
Speaker 6: it would take six months to one year to actually
Speaker 6: get your investigation and clearance done. I know because I
Speaker 6: worked in my position for six months before a federal
Speaker 6: investigator did my interview and gave me my security clearance.
Speaker 6: It is a long wait, but the federal government has
Speaker 6: discretion to allow federal employees to get into these roles
Speaker 6: prior to getting their full security clearance. I need more
Speaker 6: and more people to really know about this and how
Speaker 6: this works in the federal government.
Speaker 5: These people are having you tell me what is the
Speaker 5: difference between having a security clearance and not.
Speaker 6: So a security clearance require going through your entire life.
Speaker 6: They knock on the doors of your friends and family
Speaker 6: and ask about you to make sure you're legit. They
Speaker 6: were knocking on the doors of all of my references.
Speaker 6: People get emails about me every past employer, not just
Speaker 6: a simple background check, but to make sure that you
Speaker 6: actually have the experience you say you do. I mean,
Speaker 6: they had me explain why I didn't pay a three
Speaker 6: hundred dollars Macy's credit card bill when I was nineteen
Speaker 6: years old and the card got closed, you know, And
Speaker 6: I was twenty seven, you know going in this job.
Speaker 7: They look into everything.
Speaker 6: And mind you, I didn't have a top secret or
Speaker 6: secret security clearance. I didn't have a big high level.
Speaker 6: I was on the lower level. But they're not doing this.
Speaker 6: I know they're not because I know they don't have
Speaker 6: the resources to do it. And I know what the
Speaker 6: timeline looked like before Trump came in indulged.
Speaker 3: Everything, and they didn't know that January sixth. People have
Speaker 3: been high. I mean it's been confirmed by news out
Speaker 3: lets repeatedly that January sixth, neo Nazi.
Speaker 5: What what's the confused one, the one who thinks he's white?
Speaker 12: Oh?
Speaker 3: Nick Nick.
Speaker 5: The guy from Miami, Yeah yeah, yeah yeahque and riquees
Speaker 5: Yeah yeah yeah. He didn't know if he's black, Hispanic
Speaker 5: or white man. But but you said, Nick point is
Speaker 5: nixed the podcast.
Speaker 2: I know who he is.
Speaker 1: What is he he's what is his racial background?
Speaker 5: Oh he's White's white wins. Yeah, he's like Christopher Columbus white.
Speaker 3: But the only point I wanted to make is that
Speaker 3: this administration has no respect for those clearances.
Speaker 5: Anyway.
Speaker 3: They waved, they have waived senior people, people who have
Speaker 3: responsibilities for the US's representation on an international scale, who
Speaker 3: we don't know whether or not their funds trace back
Speaker 3: to foreign governments who are paying them, who paid them
Speaker 3: previous to their roles, whether they are double agents. None
Speaker 3: of that is known. In this government under Trump, beginning
Speaker 3: at its first administration, have waived the clearances for so
Speaker 3: many of these high level positions that it just doesn't
Speaker 3: even matter to them. I just wish at a base
Speaker 3: level that we could have some comfort, some belief that
Speaker 3: the people who have these roles have the one experience,
Speaker 3: knowledge and experience and know how to be there, and
Speaker 3: that they are actually on mission. And then when I
Speaker 3: said mission on the on the broader small de democratic democracy,
Speaker 3: mission not in service to an individual man, because if
Speaker 3: you work for the federal government, you don't do so
Speaker 3: in service to an individually.
Speaker 1: I want Tom, sorry, I want to get to the
Speaker 1: point before I forget. When you were raising Liz about
Speaker 1: security clearance, I had to have one on the Homeland
Speaker 1: Security Committee a TS, which.
Speaker 2: Is top secret.
Speaker 1: Of course, I didn't want to do SCI because the
Speaker 1: CIA then venture information. I was just adamantly opposed Quentin Telpro.
Speaker 3: So I.
Speaker 1: Will just say that The other part of the coin is, yes,
Speaker 1: you have to go through this extensive background check, which
Speaker 1: you're also familiar with for the bar, but you also
Speaker 1: have to, you know, have a kind of character about
Speaker 1: you to be able to hold top secret information. And
Speaker 1: these people one can't do what we know that their
Speaker 1: president can't even do it.
Speaker 2: He had documents stored in his bathroom in Marlogo.
Speaker 7: I mean, we know what Whiskey leaks. Did you know
Speaker 7: Pete HIGs.
Speaker 6: That's his name, Whiskey leaks because he had drunk.
Speaker 5: And he first of all, and we're not going to
Speaker 5: attack people spirit to like that on this show. Sometimes
Speaker 5: people drink.
Speaker 7: A little bit, we call him whiskey. We call him
Speaker 7: whiskey leagues.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's great.
Speaker 7: Pete Kegg's breath, that's what we called him.
Speaker 6: And I'm just gonna say, I'm sure that neither myself
Speaker 6: nor Angela have ever you know, let sensitive confidential government information.
Speaker 7: Be put in a group chat, never that we're.
Speaker 6: Not supposed to be in. And that's just another example
Speaker 6: of how they're undermining all of this. And I'm just like,
Speaker 6: I need the American public to understand.
Speaker 5: I just saw an ICE agent here in Minneapolis. Moon protesters.
Speaker 5: What y'all didn't see that?
Speaker 7: No, was it a showing his whole ass?
Speaker 5: Yeah, they were. They were protesting. They were protesting outside.
Speaker 5: If Nick can pull it up while while he ain't
Speaker 5: doing nothing.
Speaker 2: We don't want to show the ass on TV.
Speaker 5: Well they blurreted out. I mean, it's just pale, so
Speaker 5: so like. But that goes to the character of That
Speaker 5: goes to the character of the law enforcement that we're
Speaker 5: talking about. Like, And it's hard for me because I
Speaker 5: am the person who looks at things from this perspective
Speaker 5: of it's I don't believe it's just like one apple
Speaker 5: fail from the tree, But I don't want to indict
Speaker 5: the entire agency because of the behavior of a few. However, however,
Speaker 5: in this particular instance, we're seeing such an influx of
Speaker 5: bad characters. We're seeing the the examples happen over and
Speaker 5: over and over again. You can't help winter culture the culture.
Speaker 3: But we can disess the culture from their success rate.
Speaker 3: And we seven out of ten, right that they seven
Speaker 3: out of ten are fails?
Speaker 5: Correct?
Speaker 3: Are they are? They shouldn't be coming into contact with
Speaker 3: US American citizens or detaining them, taking them from their
Speaker 3: homes causing them to have to walk back across county
Speaker 3: boundaries to get back to where they were lifted from.
Speaker 3: There was a story that was done about the down
Speaker 3: in Texas where the Ice agents picked up the guy.
Speaker 3: The guy, the kid because he was a minor, left
Speaker 3: his cell phone in the car. He tracks through his
Speaker 3: services where the phone is and it has been pawned
Speaker 3: at a pawn shop located and it's an attention center
Speaker 3: where he's where he was taken to.
Speaker 7: They pawned his phone. They pawned that boy.
Speaker 3: So I'm like, these guys.
Speaker 7: Real life, so you want to dte them.
Speaker 5: That's not what I said. What I said was most
Speaker 5: times you don't indict an entire agency because of the
Speaker 5: behavior of one. What I'm trying to say is that
Speaker 5: the behavior the influx of these individuals is vastly different.
Speaker 5: So even if it was one, let's say, what the
Speaker 5: cancer has metastasized so bad that the indictment for the
Speaker 5: entire agency rest appropriately. That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 7: It makes a lot of sense.
Speaker 6: And I'm just saying we're about to be We're about
Speaker 6: to have a House of representatives where Mike Johnson can
Speaker 6: only afford to lose one vote, and I swear to God,
Speaker 6: every single Democrat in the House needs to be pushing
Speaker 6: to get rid of Ice, because you can do it.
Speaker 7: We just watched Donald Trump slash everything.
Speaker 6: I mean, if he can slash the entire communications department
Speaker 6: at the FDA so that nobody knows baby formula is
Speaker 6: causing batchelism, if y'all didn't see the buy Heart baby
Speaker 6: formula scandal and people are like, why didn't this information
Speaker 6: get out there about these babies in this deadly disease
Speaker 6: because they fired everybody in the calm shop, so there
Speaker 6: was nobody put it out. So if he could do that,
Speaker 6: I think y'all can get rid of the slave catchers,
Speaker 6: the Nazis, whatever you want to call it.
Speaker 5: Im proceedings against Christy Noman.
Speaker 2: You got to do is low hanging fruit.
Speaker 1: But the other thing that I think is really important
Speaker 1: we and we still need to get into the segment
Speaker 1: with a little bit time when we have left. But
Speaker 1: I will just say what blows my absolute mind is
Speaker 1: the fact that these guys are like interchangeable. Now, Ice
Speaker 1: and CBP, there is no reason for border being in Minnesota. Well,
Speaker 1: the difference is that ICE is responsible for workplace raids. Traditionally,
Speaker 1: they're replaced for finding and identifying is supposed to be
Speaker 1: criminals who have you know, illegally stayed, illegally entered border
Speaker 1: patrol literally is supposed to be policing the actual freaking border.
Speaker 3: Oh you haven't heard that they're now the security team
Speaker 3: for the Olympics team for the Winter Olympics. They're now
Speaker 3: being not the Winter Olympics, Oh, yes, going to Italy.
Speaker 3: They are going to Italy as the detail for security.
Speaker 12: For the.
Speaker 5: Yes on you not only that, but did you also
Speaker 5: hear that the twenty twenty eight Olympics as a part
Speaker 5: of the security forces, their ICE is going to have
Speaker 5: a predominant role in enforcing security at the twenty twenty
Speaker 5: eight Olympics.
Speaker 3: So the Italians have of course been going haywire because
Speaker 3: they are watching what's happening here in the United States
Speaker 3: and they're saying, you cannot deploy ICE into our country,
Speaker 3: and if they come here, they absolutely can do nothing
Speaker 3: as it relates to enforcement of laws on a foreign
Speaker 3: sovereign nation.
Speaker 12: So they tried to They tried to invade the Ecuador
Speaker 12: the Equadorian consulate in Minnesota.
Speaker 1: These people have no not only a security clearance. They
Speaker 1: don't have a fundamental understanding of the law. They don't
Speaker 1: have under a fundamental understanding of the structure of law.
Speaker 3: If you if you are an embassyment and you were
Speaker 3: in the United States, located geopolitically in the United States, yes,
Speaker 3: but an embassy is sovereign territory the United States.
Speaker 1: Sovereign territory means Donald Trump, hey Jesus exactly.
Speaker 7: And you know what Italy, I'm just going to say.
Speaker 6: My message to you is if CBP comes in there
Speaker 6: in your country, act to the full.
Speaker 7: You do what you gotta do.
Speaker 5: But but it starts. It starts with it starts with
Speaker 5: one person who we started to show with. And that's
Speaker 5: what I've been telling everybody. Like local governments have rights,
Speaker 5: have authority, and sovereign as well. They are very sovereign.
Speaker 5: We fought a whole war over that sovereignty and having
Speaker 5: a whole Amendment. It's the one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight,
Speaker 5: nine tenth.
Speaker 1: Yes, and so what that we are the people now
Speaker 1: that are like stays right.
Speaker 5: Because put a button on this, because Keith Ellison has
Speaker 5: to indict the officers who murdered these individuals. You have to.
Speaker 5: And I know people are like, why is it always
Speaker 5: on black folk to do the job? No, that is
Speaker 5: your job. And if they commit a murder, you have
Speaker 5: to treat them like other law enforcement officers who commit
Speaker 5: a murder. And let me just criminally speaking, this is
Speaker 5: what's been driving me crazy about this debate. Even the
Speaker 5: little guy that wears the Nazi coat, you can, you can.
Speaker 5: You cannot resist arrest if there's no probable cause for
Speaker 5: the underlying arrest. There's no such charge as simply resisting
Speaker 5: arrest like you cannot. And for people watching, because they
Speaker 5: do this to people all the time that I've had
Speaker 5: so many clients come to my office and they have
Speaker 5: like a duy ticket or whatever, and then not even that,
Speaker 5: let's some of them just come with the resisting arrest ticket.
Speaker 5: I'm like, where's the what else? What do you charge?
Speaker 7: Resist?
Speaker 5: What arrest? What lawful arrest? Were you resisting? He was
Speaker 5: like no, I was just there and and he was
Speaker 5: trying to and he arrested me.
Speaker 1: Said on the panels, huh, you should have said this
Speaker 1: on one of the panels on Tuesday.
Speaker 5: Oh my panel wasn't that wasn't a good one.
Speaker 3: The listeners now pay close attention because the details of
Speaker 3: this absolutely Matterfference.
Speaker 5: Yeah, No, I mean, and I tell people you got
Speaker 5: to know your rights, and I mean I you know,
Speaker 5: I ascribe to the notion that you always fight back
Speaker 5: in the court of law. Right, you don't die, survived
Speaker 5: the incident, don't die on the side of the street. However, if,
Speaker 5: for example, they're trying to say that Preddy was resisting
Speaker 5: arrest and there's no probable cost for any underlying arrest,
Speaker 5: which means that this is clearly a violation of ones
Speaker 5: of one's constitutional rights, and so that that on it's
Speaker 5: that false arrest, that excessive force is not only civilly chargeable,
Speaker 5: but criminally these individuals because if they do not face
Speaker 5: charges in Minnesota for the death of these two white people,
Speaker 5: then they can go to Italy, or they can go
Speaker 5: to South Carolina, or they can go to Tallahassee, or
Speaker 5: they can go to Maryland, and they can commit whatever
Speaker 5: crimes they want to with bither.
Speaker 3: Way, we have no information that any of these folks
Speaker 3: have have been removed from the forest.
Speaker 7: We have no information names which cand I actually want
Speaker 7: to make.
Speaker 6: A comment about that about their faces because a lot
Speaker 6: of people were concerned about who they called the woman
Speaker 6: in the pink jacket who got that really close up
Speaker 6: video footage.
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, Anderson Coopadillo.
Speaker 7: She wasn't.
Speaker 6: She unmasked herself, which is something I say just can't
Speaker 6: seem to do.
Speaker 7: Her name is Stella Carlson.
Speaker 6: She wanted to come out publicly, so I'm not doxing
Speaker 6: this woman or disrespecting her.
Speaker 7: In any way.
Speaker 6: You can find the interview, and she said she was
Speaker 6: coming out because it did not seem right to be
Speaker 6: quiet in this moment. She said she stayed there the
Speaker 6: entire time with Alex because she said she couldn't just
Speaker 6: leave it.
Speaker 7: There on the street.
Speaker 6: And this woman has more bravery in her pinky than
Speaker 6: these ICE agents have in their entire agency.
Speaker 7: I mean, it's crazy to see.
Speaker 6: And then I have to make like a slightly just
Speaker 6: one comment because you said something about, you know, Keith Ellison,
Speaker 6: and hell, we're always saying black folks gotta save us,
Speaker 6: so just it's tinged with a little bit of bitterness
Speaker 6: for the white progressives.
Speaker 3: Y'all.
Speaker 6: Remember how you called that lady a cop and said
Speaker 6: you didn't want to vote for her, and now you
Speaker 6: want the prosecutors to come help you because you started
Speaker 6: getting killed. I just want to point that out real
Speaker 6: quick that right now, because I kept making this comment
Speaker 6: throughout all twenty twenty four that y'all don't like prosecutors
Speaker 6: until you need these black prosecutors. And yeah, we got
Speaker 6: problems with the legal system. Yeah it's broken.
Speaker 7: We know us and we're lawyers no more than anybody.
Speaker 5: That horse is dead. I don't beat that horse in
Speaker 5: the ground.
Speaker 2: Yeah it's gonna keep getting beat.
Speaker 6: It's gonna keep getting beat, and it's broken. But if
Speaker 6: you to say that you can't support a black person
Speaker 6: for going into that role, and that's just basically saying
Speaker 6: you don't want any black people in these systems and
Speaker 6: all making change and then to turn around and now
Speaker 6: you want these black folks in the system to save you.
Speaker 7: Is crazy.
Speaker 6: So I just I would like I would like the
Speaker 6: white folks out there on the progressive side of things
Speaker 6: to kind of remember this skulling for.
Speaker 5: Me, I was gonna say, and the black folks too,
Speaker 5: because there's a less a lot of black men who
Speaker 5: were like, I can't vote for no proble.
Speaker 3: And again, I don't think we should paper over the
Speaker 3: fact that there's a people didn't arrive here without evidence.
Speaker 3: They didn't arrive here without life experiences that have led
Speaker 3: us to this conclusion. But now we're meeting up with
Speaker 3: some life experiences that are showing us otherwise and making
Speaker 3: the case as to why it really is important that
Speaker 3: we have some allies and people who we know and
Speaker 3: trusts who are going to be fidal to the law,
Speaker 3: FIDL to the law and fair and the disbursement of justice.
Speaker 3: But but we didn't wake up deciding this is where
Speaker 3: we were going to be. Our lived experiences have led
Speaker 3: us to a conclusion. And now we're having a we're
Speaker 3: gonna have We're coming up to the test of whether
Speaker 3: or not we resolved that properly. And I don't believe
Speaker 3: we did. And it rarely ever do we when it's
Speaker 3: driven only by our own lived experiences. It has to
Speaker 3: mess up with something. That's the same thing with this
Speaker 3: whole Second Amendment deal. I've never been you know, I believe,
Speaker 3: I believe that the Second Amendment exists. I think we
Speaker 3: have been extremely.
Speaker 5: He gave you the bare minimums.
Speaker 3: But the interpretations of that amendment, I think we have
Speaker 3: been so.
Speaker 6: Right to bare arms for him is the right to
Speaker 6: wear a tank time?
Speaker 5: ANGI like to had him guns out. Let me ask
Speaker 5: you a question. So is the So is the Second Amendment?
Speaker 5: And this is somewhat rhetorical, but like I think this
Speaker 5: highlights our point. Like is the Second Amendment Filando Castile
Speaker 5: and Jacob Bla and the young ask you man that
Speaker 5: you mentioned in Memphis? Or is the second Amendment the
Speaker 5: two white folks in Missouri who stood out on the mcclasket,
Speaker 5: them folk who stood out on the yard with ar fifty?
Speaker 3: Second Amendment is for those peaceful process In my belief
Speaker 3: is it applies to those who are most adjacent to
Speaker 3: those in power, either to the people in power or
Speaker 3: those closest.
Speaker 5: To I mean, I actually think that it's it's more
Speaker 5: narrow than that. I think that that you know, it's
Speaker 5: it belongs to those people who, of course adjacent to power.
Speaker 5: But there is a there is a negative inference among
Speaker 5: there's a negative inference going to people of color who
Speaker 5: possess weapons in this country.
Speaker 1: But it's also not just people of color. Again, Alex
Speaker 1: Purdy was a white man.
Speaker 5: Well, I mean, I think that's I think the reason
Speaker 5: we're seeing this blowback is because that is a very
Speaker 5: very very rare They cross the line, which is an
Speaker 5: exception to every rule they've ever done, and they're like oops.
Speaker 2: I also don't think that that's true.
Speaker 1: I think that this isn't just about protecting power.
Speaker 2: Generally.
Speaker 1: All of the constitutional amendments are selectively interpreted for those
Speaker 1: who will protect and blay their bodies on the line
Speaker 1: for white supremacy, full stop.
Speaker 3: But I don't I don't think we're saying anything different.
Speaker 2: I don't think it is, but I should think it.
Speaker 3: I think, but that is power.
Speaker 2: You're talking about real power, very specifically.
Speaker 3: But I think if if we were to evolve and
Speaker 3: that were to look different one day, I think the
Speaker 3: rules would still apply. That it is adjacent to those
Speaker 3: who either have the power or are closest to it.
Speaker 3: And the reason why I say that is because those
Speaker 3: are the folks who get the benefit of the doubt you.
Speaker 3: I get to see you as human, and through my
Speaker 3: own lens, I can actually put myself on your shoes
Speaker 3: because of that adjacency. It's because you're human, and I
Speaker 3: don't there are not these mitigating factors that make.
Speaker 5: You a threat.
Speaker 3: Because you had a gun, and you had this and
Speaker 3: you grew up in this neighborhood, and maybe you said
Speaker 3: something races over your life, and so on and so forth.
Speaker 3: All of us get mitigating factors applied to us under
Speaker 3: the color of the law. Everybody else gets the full
Speaker 3: embrace of their humanity. Correct when the people who are
Speaker 3: assessing you are you or closest to you in some way.
Speaker 3: So the president and all the President's men. The reason
Speaker 3: why they can do a total about face here is
Speaker 3: because they were reminded that these weren't just some apes
Speaker 3: out in the street that they were after, but this
Speaker 3: was a white man. It took them a while to
Speaker 3: fix their face. They wear masks for cognitive dissidents. They
Speaker 3: need to be able to separate themselves from reality. And
Speaker 3: once they peel that lens away, they were able to
Speaker 3: see we transgress on our own.
Speaker 1: Land, they transgress also on their own jurisdiction. And that's
Speaker 1: I feel like this is such a circular conversation. Hopefully
Speaker 1: we can get back into all of the amendments and
Speaker 1: how they apply, especially given this to the two hundred
Speaker 1: and fiftieth anniversary of the Declaration of Independence, and we
Speaker 1: is still not free.
Speaker 2: Let's go to a quick viewer question and we'll get
Speaker 2: right in a cause to action.
Speaker 13: Who cares about truth when the laws more than.
Speaker 3: Saying it.
Speaker 12: Good morning family? At a Native Land pod, I was
Speaker 12: I'm on my way into work. But over the weekend,
Speaker 12: my husband and I, who are millenniums, can't even say that.
Speaker 7: But you know the group I'm trying to say.
Speaker 12: We spent the weekend with my mother in law, her brother,
Speaker 12: her sister, and their friend who are all in their sixties, and.
Speaker 7: They were yelling, not yelling, but they were.
Speaker 12: Having a conversation something about Ice is doing other business
Speaker 12: besides taking emigrants. They're taking people that you know, didn't
Speaker 12: pay back the PPP loans and all this other stuff.
Speaker 12: They're big conspiracy folks. But then my husband was saying
Speaker 12: something and he mentioned it's all about politics, and they
Speaker 12: yelled at him. They were like, it's not all about politics.
Speaker 12: Is he correct to say that everything is political in
Speaker 12: this world? Everything is with politics?
Speaker 7: First of all, who in law's I'm gonna pray for you,
Speaker 7: my lord?
Speaker 3: That's just circumspect.
Speaker 5: Yeah, they're curious.
Speaker 2: Arounding up, But.
Speaker 5: I mean, what's what they're doing. What they're First of all,
Speaker 5: let me give a shout out to you for defending
Speaker 5: your husband. I like that she was like my husband.
Speaker 5: She said, my husband, my husband is right, and I
Speaker 5: need the for y'all to say my husband is right.
Speaker 5: So your husband, your husband is right. Play the clip
Speaker 5: back at the next family gathering. But your husband actually
Speaker 5: is right, So I mean they are actually there may
Speaker 5: be some people who have frauded defrauded PPP loans, because
Speaker 5: what they're doing is they're going into people's homes with
Speaker 5: reckless abandon without warrants, and they are just kind of
Speaker 5: catching everybody with or without anything they may or may
Speaker 5: not have done right or wrong. And that is not
Speaker 5: the directive. That is just a kind of an ancillary
Speaker 5: to what their goal emission may be, so that their
Speaker 5: conspiracy theory ain't all the way wrong. But it's not
Speaker 5: nail on head. The fact is everything is political and
Speaker 5: nothing happens in a vacuum. The reason that ice in
Speaker 5: the National Guard are in your street dates back to
Speaker 5: when Kamala Harrison and Hillary Clinton both said that he
Speaker 5: was going to use the military in your street to
Speaker 5: not only implement Project twenty twenty five, but to create
Speaker 5: a new world order and to instill fear in every
Speaker 5: community that's killing people without account and to kill people
Speaker 5: without account. So it ties into what they want to
Speaker 5: do by getting rid of qualified immunity and having absolute immunity.
Speaker 5: It talks about what they want to do with immigrants
Speaker 5: and how they're trying to stifle immigration, particularly in the
Speaker 5: Somali community, which is right here, how they're trying to
Speaker 5: make the world wider. We're not the world, the country wider'
Speaker 5: that's criticism Europe.
Speaker 3: Speech was all about. What we learned from Europe is
Speaker 3: that you can't just so everybody.
Speaker 5: Your husband's right, because it's all political. I mean, we
Speaker 5: talk about South African immigrants coming in this country because
Speaker 5: they're quote unquote not a drain, but yet you can't
Speaker 5: have immigrants from West Africa, you can't have immigrants from Somalia.
Speaker 5: And so your husband's absolutely correct that everything is political.
Speaker 5: I hope that you take the opportunity to listen to
Speaker 5: Georgia Ford, who was on my panel yesterday evening here
Speaker 5: in Minneapolis Tuesday, and one of the things she said,
Speaker 5: if you go back to YouTube and just listen to
Speaker 5: Georgia Ford. It was during the latter part of our
Speaker 5: conversation I asked her what is one thing in the
Speaker 5: future or right now, an event, a place of time,
Speaker 5: something that she would do to help create change that
Speaker 5: she wants to see. And she talked about depoliticizing humanity,
Speaker 5: and that was so profound that she said that, and
Speaker 5: that gives credence to your husband's statement that we have
Speaker 5: to depoliticize humanity.
Speaker 3: Accept it.
Speaker 5: What won't happen.
Speaker 3: I mean the policy people every I mean, this is
Speaker 3: where we live, It's who we are, and it exists
Speaker 3: in everything that we encounter in the course of our day,
Speaker 3: from what we eat, right in the regulation around what
Speaker 3: we can and what we can and what industry produces,
Speaker 3: what pesticize and so on and so forth are It
Speaker 3: exists in everything. And I know people hate to hear that.
Speaker 3: I hate to know that in some ways, mostly because
Speaker 3: of the bastardization of what should be good social political interface. Unfortunately,
Speaker 3: the most powerful people, as they have since the beginning
Speaker 3: of time, have figured out ways to weaponize and manipulate
Speaker 3: and bastardize these processes for political meaning power gain. I
Speaker 3: should separate that just political gain, but power gain the
Speaker 3: ability to then get to decide the politic of all
Speaker 3: of us. The ability to curate the politics of every
Speaker 3: single whatever that looks like. It may look like suppression
Speaker 3: for us, for others it may look like wild abandoned,
Speaker 3: and for others it looks like power. It differs certainly
Speaker 3: in this country, but I think in the world based
Speaker 3: off of who you are and how close you are
Speaker 3: to the decision makers, the people who are in position
Speaker 3: to make decisions that then create consequence with the rest
Speaker 3: of us.
Speaker 6: And I just want to point out, for just again
Speaker 6: because you're talking about everything being political, another example, and
Speaker 6: that you're in law zy to learn and you to
Speaker 6: learn the term remigration. It's r E M I G
Speaker 6: R A t io N. It's like migration, but re
Speaker 6: in front of it, right, And that's the term that
Speaker 6: the Trump administration has been using. And that is tied
Speaker 6: to Alternative for Dutschland, which is AfD, which is the
Speaker 6: far right Nazi party in Germany that Elon Musk has
Speaker 6: been supporting and trying to bring up. And I got
Speaker 6: to go to the German Parliament last year and actually
Speaker 6: get to talk to the folks and the journalists who
Speaker 6: expose the AfD and what they're doing, and they focused
Speaker 6: on reemigration and that is where they take people who
Speaker 6: are not German enough, not immigrants, not necessarily immigrants, you're
Speaker 6: just not German enough, and they send you somewhere else.
Speaker 6: And the Trump administration is using that same term. And
Speaker 6: it's no coincidence that Elon Musk was deep with AfD
Speaker 6: and was also deep with the Trump administration, right, So,
Speaker 6: and yes, Steve Bannon and so I really encourage them
Speaker 6: to think about the fact that it's not just about
Speaker 6: PPP loans. The conspiracy. I always tell people, like people
Speaker 6: dig for these conspiracies. I'm like, the truth is right
Speaker 6: there in front of you. Yeah, they're saying they're snatching
Speaker 6: people up, probably for PPP loans of different things.
Speaker 7: And the fruit of the poisonous tree doctrine is just dead,
Speaker 7: I guess.
Speaker 6: But they are doing it in service of remigration to
Speaker 6: find a reason to kick your black asses out of
Speaker 6: this country, your brown asses out of this country, regardless
Speaker 6: of your citizenship status.
Speaker 1: Well, speaking of getting our asses kicked out, we are
Speaker 1: at the tail end of our show where we do
Speaker 1: calls to action, and so I would like to yield
Speaker 1: to my co hosts on what their calls to action
Speaker 1: are for this week. Yeah, you're not ready. Okay, come on,
Speaker 1: bit Booker squared. If y'all don't follow Booker Squared, you're
Speaker 1: missing out. You in the latest breakdowns in politics and
Speaker 1: everything that's going on in the world.
Speaker 2: And a very quick quick she talked quick, y'all. You
Speaker 2: got to keep up. She's smart.
Speaker 7: I do talk quick.
Speaker 6: I need y'all to call your senators. I need you
Speaker 6: to call your senators and tell them to vote no
Speaker 6: on this additional ICE funding.
Speaker 7: That's what I want you to do. I understand that
Speaker 7: you said you.
Speaker 6: Weren't sure about how this would affect things if we didn't,
Speaker 6: you know, appropriate the money. I think we shouldn't be
Speaker 6: appropriate that additional money to ICE, So I want you
Speaker 6: to call it two zero two two two four three
Speaker 6: one two one. Take you to the switchboard, ask for
Speaker 6: your senator, and you can go to my account.
Speaker 7: Booker squared.
Speaker 6: There's a tricky little post that says how to get
Speaker 6: a six figure brand deal with my picture in front
Speaker 6: of it. That's just a trick the algorithm. If you scroll,
Speaker 6: it's actually stuff to get rid of Ice. There's a
Speaker 6: script in there that you can use to call your senator.
Speaker 7: What is that?
Speaker 5: What's my what's my partner's name, uh too real, too raw.
Speaker 5: This was how I slept with six married men in one.
Speaker 2: Night, married straight married straight.
Speaker 5: Married men in one night. It was to get ice.
Speaker 2: I loved it. You guys are brilliant.
Speaker 7: No, and you know what you on?
Speaker 2: Cause to action? Are you back to out for commentary?
Speaker 2: You'll call it? Okay? Good? I'm just checking Jobby going going.
Speaker 5: So No, I think I think I called action ties
Speaker 5: in yours because although I'm not, I don't see the
Speaker 5: political benefit of, uh shut down. What I do see
Speaker 5: the benefit of is what I want people to do,
Speaker 5: which is get involved in the process. And I don't
Speaker 5: want to dampen people's spirit. So if people are actively
Speaker 5: engaged with Booker Square or whatever it may be, to
Speaker 5: go out and call their senators and build their relationships
Speaker 5: and begin to make that a habit. I want people
Speaker 5: to get involved because now is the time. We've had
Speaker 5: a year of respite. People were worn out after the elections.
Speaker 5: People were tired, they were down, They were like, I
Speaker 5: can't believe we're here. Now is the time we need
Speaker 5: people to get re engaged and rest on that bad
Speaker 5: rock of faith that I mentioned to Yeah.
Speaker 3: I'm with the two of you on that. It's hard
Speaker 3: to see where we come out on the partial government
Speaker 3: shut down if they what I think is happening now
Speaker 3: is a game of chicken. I think the Senate Majority
Speaker 3: leader does not believe that Democrats in the US Senate
Speaker 3: have the courage required to stop these appropriations bills, because
Speaker 3: they can do it very simply by separating out ICE
Speaker 3: funding and allowing the other bills to go through. The
Speaker 3: Senate leadership can do that, they're choosing not to. And
Speaker 3: so to the extent that we can give our senators
Speaker 3: the spines that they need to force the Republican leadership
Speaker 3: to the table of negotiation. Since this is a divided country,
Speaker 3: then I think we do what is required to make
Speaker 3: that happen. Is that your call to action, make your
Speaker 3: calls to the US Senators.
Speaker 2: I love it. Okay, well, but Cary brought up habits.
Speaker 2: You know what else is?
Speaker 1: The habit is stunting and speaking of those who stunt,
Speaker 1: Ryan Coogler's sent is breaking records. Even in the whitening
Speaker 1: of America, there's a blackening of the Academy Awards. They
Speaker 1: had sixteen Academy Award nominations. We want to encourage the
Speaker 1: Center's family. Yes, the most in history. They are breaking records.
Speaker 1: That's what I'm meant. You're right breaking. He made history
Speaker 1: record breaking, so we want to congratulate them on that,
Speaker 1: especially in this really challenging time.
Speaker 2: And speaking of nominations, this is my stunt.
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Speaker 2: She's not in our category, you know, doing so well.
Speaker 5: You know what the B stands for. Michael B. Jordan
Speaker 5: was O God, Cary, you know what, it's Michael.
Speaker 2: Study Trump's brain. They should throw him that just help him.
Speaker 2: He still found a way to make centners nomination about him.
Speaker 5: You know, it's I'm just letting you know. I looked
Speaker 5: it up, looked y'all had no idea.
Speaker 3: But you see, he's not that proud guys.
Speaker 2: Here's the thing.
Speaker 5: Here's the thing about couldn't he couldn't compete.
Speaker 1: So you guys know how he was just saying, how
Speaker 1: I get on his nerves. This is why he get
Speaker 1: on my nerves. This is the main one that want
Speaker 1: to have a heart out of everything and the main
Speaker 1: one to be off message, off topic and out of time.
Speaker 2: So with that, y'all, we want to remind everybody.
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