WEBVTT - Breaking the ICE 0:00:00.080 --> 0:00:03.600 Native Lampod is a production of iHeartRadio and partnership with 0:00:03.760 --> 0:00:08.280 Reason Choice Media. 0:00:09.360 --> 0:00:10.240 Welcome home, y'all. 0:00:10.280 --> 0:00:13.120 This is episode one hundred and sixteen of Native Lampod, 0:00:13.160 --> 0:00:16.280 where we give you all things politics and culture. I 0:00:16.320 --> 0:00:19.360 am your host, Angela Rie, joined by my good brother 0:00:19.680 --> 0:00:23.840 Andrew Gellim Bacari Sellers and joining us this week as 0:00:23.840 --> 0:00:26.680 a co host is the brilliant legal and scientific mind 0:00:26.720 --> 0:00:29.280 the former federal government worker that Trump hated to see 0:00:29.320 --> 0:00:32.960 coming content creator extraordinary Elizabeth Booker. 0:00:33.040 --> 0:00:33.760 Here's Dad. 0:00:34.880 --> 0:00:35.360 Well, y'all. 0:00:36.560 --> 0:00:39.560 Well, welcome home to Minnesota, though, because that's where we are, 0:00:40.520 --> 0:00:42.120 you know, I just want to jump right in. 0:00:42.240 --> 0:00:44.159 We have so much to cover in FYSA. 0:00:44.280 --> 0:00:48.000 That's for your situational awareness and for your situation, for 0:00:48.040 --> 0:00:54.440 your fyssay, for your situational awareness. We are in Minneapolis, Minnesota. 0:00:54.560 --> 0:00:56.160 I have my hat on, but they made me take 0:00:56.200 --> 0:00:59.800 it off. I had a hat on. But anyway, we 0:01:00.040 --> 0:01:03.280 are here because we'd love to see how Minnesota showed 0:01:03.360 --> 0:01:06.160 up for the world, and so we wanted to show 0:01:06.200 --> 0:01:06.880 up for Minnesota. 0:01:06.959 --> 0:01:07.959 So this is where we are. 0:01:08.600 --> 0:01:11.520 Tuesday night, Lady of Lampod held a live town hall 0:01:11.560 --> 0:01:14.360 at the Historic Capri Theater and partnership with State of 0:01:14.400 --> 0:01:16.920 the People, Minnesota Freedom Fund, and the Capri Theater, we 0:01:17.000 --> 0:01:21.119 provided free groceries, hygiene, kids, and legal services to Minnesota's 0:01:21.120 --> 0:01:25.520 We had an amazing guests including NAACP President Derrek Johnson, Minnesota 0:01:25.560 --> 0:01:30.600 Freedom funds Eli Dairis Janey, Amari Bates, Minister Janey of Isaiah, 0:01:30.640 --> 0:01:33.680 Attorney General Keith Ellison, who had this to say. 0:01:34.360 --> 0:01:37.440 This situation, this oppression that Minnesota is under right now, 0:01:37.840 --> 0:01:43.000 will not be solved in a courtroom. The real justice 0:01:43.040 --> 0:01:46.440 and the real freedom and the real true democracy will 0:01:46.440 --> 0:01:49.560 be because you go out in the street and demonstrate 0:01:50.040 --> 0:01:51.680 and say no to this oppression. 0:01:52.760 --> 0:01:54.160 It is the people. 0:01:53.960 --> 0:01:55.720 In the street, in the hearts and the minds of 0:01:55.760 --> 0:02:00.160 the people marching in nine below weather, standing up and 0:02:00.240 --> 0:02:02.880 saying no, We're not going to let you roll over 0:02:02.960 --> 0:02:05.320 us this way, which is going to win the day. 0:02:07.000 --> 0:02:10.560 Together with elections, together with the artists, together with all 0:02:10.600 --> 0:02:12.960 of these things that we collect to try to create 0:02:13.000 --> 0:02:17.480 a just society. And it's not overnight, And I cannot 0:02:17.480 --> 0:02:24.560 guarantee you perfect safety as you fight for justice. There's 0:02:24.560 --> 0:02:28.400 no guarantee of perfect safety. When an oppress or feels 0:02:28.400 --> 0:02:33.359 threatened that you're trying to be free yourself. So at 0:02:33.360 --> 0:02:35.920 the end of the day, friends, I am asking you 0:02:35.960 --> 0:02:36.560 to protest. 0:02:37.680 --> 0:02:40.480 I love that I am asking you to protest and 0:02:40.520 --> 0:02:42.880 doing that against all odds, even in the face of 0:02:42.919 --> 0:02:44.680 not being able to say I can protect you. 0:02:45.040 --> 0:02:46.360 But that is the only way to be. 0:02:46.880 --> 0:02:49.920 Two things stuck out about that. One is I'm not 0:02:49.960 --> 0:02:53.280 sure people really understand how cold it is in Minneapolis. 0:02:53.560 --> 0:02:56.600 He said, nine degrees. Belove, It's been zero. I don't 0:02:56.600 --> 0:02:58.520 even know if you put if a degree is plural 0:02:58.639 --> 0:03:02.720 or not. It's been zero degree grees whatever. It's cold 0:03:02.720 --> 0:03:05.840 as hell outside. And it adds a different layer of 0:03:05.880 --> 0:03:08.200 context to the people in their sacrifice, because you know, 0:03:08.240 --> 0:03:10.679 a lot of people want to be comfortable when they protest, 0:03:10.919 --> 0:03:14.280 and it ain't shit comfortable about Minneapolis, Minnesota right now outside. 0:03:14.320 --> 0:03:16.240 That's first. The second thing is it reminds me of 0:03:16.240 --> 0:03:18.280 my dad telling me about how they went to Philadelphia, 0:03:18.280 --> 0:03:21.280 Mississippi looking for the bodies of Goodman Schriner in Cheney, 0:03:22.040 --> 0:03:24.440 and during the day they had to hide in barns 0:03:24.480 --> 0:03:26.160 and sheds, and at night they would go out and 0:03:26.160 --> 0:03:28.440 looking ditches and trenches. And he was always like they 0:03:28.440 --> 0:03:31.600 couldn't wear belt buckles, they couldn't wear anything shiny. They 0:03:31.680 --> 0:03:33.639 just had to wear denim, and they had to wear 0:03:33.720 --> 0:03:35.800 dark colors because they didn't want to be identified, they 0:03:35.800 --> 0:03:38.600 didn't want to be seen, because you could not ensure 0:03:39.520 --> 0:03:44.960 people's safety. And so that is probably the direct parallel 0:03:45.000 --> 0:03:47.280 that I see. But it also harkens back and makes 0:03:47.280 --> 0:03:50.360 you really sober about the time period that we're in now. 0:03:50.880 --> 0:03:53.320 When you think about looking for Goodman, Schriner and Cheney 0:03:53.360 --> 0:03:56.080 and the attorney general who's the chief law enforcement officer 0:03:56.160 --> 0:04:00.200 of your state saying I cannot protect your safety. I 0:04:00.200 --> 0:04:04.040 mean that is those things jumped out at me pretty profoundly. 0:04:04.320 --> 0:04:06.560 Yeah, it's not surprising though, I mean that's what we've 0:04:06.600 --> 0:04:10.120 seen over and over again in you know, with history 0:04:10.160 --> 0:04:10.680 and everything. 0:04:11.080 --> 0:04:12.720 And I think it was. 0:04:12.760 --> 0:04:15.360 Derek who said last night that we've never seen anything 0:04:15.400 --> 0:04:17.680 like this, but we've always seen something like that. Yeah, 0:04:17.760 --> 0:04:20.400 So both of those statements are true, and it's not 0:04:20.440 --> 0:04:22.880 surprising that it's always been people in the community having 0:04:22.880 --> 0:04:24.800 to rise up and protect one another when it comes 0:04:24.800 --> 0:04:27.640 to the civil rights movement and you know, all of 0:04:27.680 --> 0:04:30.279 the fights for our rights, it's always been having to 0:04:30.360 --> 0:04:32.760 also work outside of the system, including the legal system, 0:04:32.839 --> 0:04:34.200 to actually keep each other safe. 0:04:34.720 --> 0:04:38.040 You know where the clip ended. The next few words 0:04:38.040 --> 0:04:41.320 from the Attorney General were peaceful protest. We want you 0:04:41.360 --> 0:04:43.479 to protest, and we want you to do so peacefully, 0:04:43.560 --> 0:04:47.839 which has been quite frankly, the tenor since the nation 0:04:47.880 --> 0:04:50.920 began paying attention to what's happening here. It's been peaceful, 0:04:51.560 --> 0:04:56.640 it's been passionate, it's been sacrificial, but it also has 0:04:56.680 --> 0:05:02.039 been incredibly impactful. Last night, the Lieutenant Governor of the state, 0:05:02.080 --> 0:05:07.480 Peggy Flanagan, said that they are that they are tired 0:05:09.440 --> 0:05:11.960 as but they continue to work. And she said it 0:05:12.040 --> 0:05:16.239 much more eloquently than I just repeated. But the sense 0:05:16.279 --> 0:05:19.360 that she was trying to communicate is, yes, they are exhausted. 0:05:19.640 --> 0:05:23.400 They are terribly exhausted. Their bodies are exhausted, their minds, 0:05:23.440 --> 0:05:29.520 their spirit, attitudes, everything about this would exhaust you, It 0:05:29.560 --> 0:05:32.560 would exhaust any of us. But yet day after day 0:05:32.680 --> 0:05:36.000 after day, you know, these folks keep showing up. They 0:05:36.080 --> 0:05:39.120 just keep doing it and exercising the muscle of consistency 0:05:39.160 --> 0:05:39.680 in this fight. 0:05:39.920 --> 0:05:42.080 Until you said that last night, that was profound. Can 0:05:42.720 --> 0:05:46.000 we back up just one say, hold on before we eat, 0:05:46.080 --> 0:05:47.920 know This is important. This is very important. 0:05:47.920 --> 0:05:49.320 I just want you all to know this is supposed 0:05:49.320 --> 0:05:51.720 to be a quick segment and these two every time 0:05:51.760 --> 0:05:52.080 go back. 0:05:52.240 --> 0:05:53.680 Let me let me just say this. Let me tell 0:05:53.680 --> 0:05:56.840 you one person that gets on my nerves Angela Rye. 0:05:56.960 --> 0:05:57.479 Wow. 0:05:57.880 --> 0:06:00.800 But let me also tell you last night would not 0:06:00.880 --> 0:06:05.320 have happened without Angela, and that that requires a point 0:06:05.360 --> 0:06:07.800 of personal privilege because as much as you get on 0:06:07.839 --> 0:06:11.200 our nerves, we recognize extremely quickly why people love you 0:06:11.279 --> 0:06:13.800 and why you're gravitational force and how you're able to 0:06:13.800 --> 0:06:16.040 pull off these things, and how you make Eddie Rye 0:06:16.160 --> 0:06:17.960 so proud because you were able to pull together a 0:06:17.960 --> 0:06:20.640 community that you're not from and do it so well, 0:06:20.760 --> 0:06:24.640 so diligent in five days, so well, so diligently. And yeah, 0:06:24.680 --> 0:06:26.400 I mean we put up with you, but we put 0:06:26.480 --> 0:06:30.719 up with you because the benefit far outweighs the getting 0:06:30.720 --> 0:06:31.840 on our nerves. 0:06:32.320 --> 0:06:36.919 Quotes I will. I want to do one thing. Do 0:06:36.960 --> 0:06:38.479 y'all forgive our setup today? 0:06:38.560 --> 0:06:38.839 Lolo. 0:06:38.960 --> 0:06:41.120 I want you to come around on camera. I think 0:06:41.160 --> 0:06:42.280 it's important that there. 0:06:44.040 --> 0:06:45.200 Be quiet. Come on, Lolo. 0:06:45.800 --> 0:06:48.040 The thing that I think is important is for people 0:06:48.080 --> 0:06:50.640 to understand it is not me operating in a vacuum. 0:06:52.760 --> 0:06:56.280 Oh yes, well then she doesn't really mean that, but 0:06:57.680 --> 0:07:03.240 she might mean she is to me our Charles Barkley, 0:07:03.320 --> 0:07:06.400 she's a utility player that knows how to get everything done. 0:07:06.560 --> 0:07:09.560 And I want to shout out Dowanna Thompson from State 0:07:09.600 --> 0:07:12.840 of the People and attorney Leslie Redmond here and Eli 0:07:12.960 --> 0:07:14.440 Davis and you got I'm serious. 0:07:14.640 --> 0:07:15.640 I would make a call. 0:07:16.040 --> 0:07:18.440 Yes, I Blue for setting up the fun from Minnesota 0:07:18.600 --> 0:07:22.600 Minnesota Freedom Fund the fundraising link. But also I want 0:07:22.640 --> 0:07:25.840 people to know there are many things when Tina mellikin 0:07:26.240 --> 0:07:28.680 Jane Bates like, there are things that I could not do, 0:07:29.040 --> 0:07:31.360 but I could call them and say, y'all, this is 0:07:31.400 --> 0:07:32.800 what we need, this is what we're trying to do. 0:07:32.880 --> 0:07:36.400 And Minnesota activated with and for NLP, and so did 0:07:36.720 --> 0:07:38.160 our State of the People family. 0:07:38.200 --> 0:07:40.200 So it was not me. I want. I just I 0:07:40.240 --> 0:07:40.560 get to. 0:07:41.640 --> 0:07:42.680 It's a lot of you. 0:07:43.520 --> 0:07:45.240 I don't know who else was gonna get me out 0:07:45.240 --> 0:07:47.800 of my house in the middle of the snowstore. 0:07:48.040 --> 0:07:52.720 I had to struggle walk across my front. I have 0:07:52.800 --> 0:07:57.640 my nebulazed women, y'all. I was on of all the 0:07:57.720 --> 0:07:59.880 things to be terrible. Imagine being bad at breathing. 0:08:00.000 --> 0:08:01.400 It's just is. 0:08:01.640 --> 0:08:02.360 But I'm here. 0:08:02.280 --> 0:08:05.160 Because I trust you and I appreciate the folks in 0:08:05.200 --> 0:08:07.480 Minnesota because, as you said, we're coming into a community 0:08:07.480 --> 0:08:10.560 that is not ours, and I always think, do I 0:08:10.600 --> 0:08:11.200 belong here? 0:08:11.600 --> 0:08:12.640 You know, there have been. 0:08:12.560 --> 0:08:17.040 Issues with other digital creators coming into Minneapolis and other 0:08:17.080 --> 0:08:19.640 folks not being very pleased about the way they've approaching. 0:08:19.720 --> 0:08:20.840 And I asked Georgia Fort. 0:08:21.200 --> 0:08:22.560 You know, I told her last time, I said, you know, 0:08:22.600 --> 0:08:23.920 I really contemplated your fort. 0:08:24.160 --> 0:08:24.920 She's amazing. 0:08:25.400 --> 0:08:27.280 And I said, do you know I didn't want to 0:08:27.280 --> 0:08:29.000 be in a space I should not be in or 0:08:29.000 --> 0:08:30.360 do not belong and and she said, no, I think 0:08:30.400 --> 0:08:34.000 it's important to have that support. And support is the word. 0:08:34.040 --> 0:08:37.600 It wasn't about taking over or you know, creating the 0:08:37.640 --> 0:08:40.040 narrative for Minnesota's but instead of amplifying it, and that's 0:08:40.040 --> 0:08:40.600 what you did. 0:08:40.960 --> 0:08:43.360 That's what we did. And on that I just wanted 0:08:43.360 --> 0:08:46.160 to say thank you, well, thank you, b thank you, Andrew, 0:08:46.200 --> 0:08:48.720 thank you, thank you Lolo, and thank you. Everybody in 0:08:48.760 --> 0:08:49.880 Minnesota and all of our. 0:08:49.760 --> 0:08:50.480 Partners called you. 0:08:50.559 --> 0:08:53.320 Charles Barkley, you can't get no rings man. That's terror, 0:08:53.440 --> 0:08:54.880 that's a terrible first. 0:08:56.440 --> 0:08:59.040 Guys, everybody knows that Charles Barkley was one of the 0:08:59.040 --> 0:09:02.839 greatest utility players of our time. Please ignore this, jackass, 0:09:03.320 --> 0:09:07.000 I mean, FYSA, you off message. Now, this is the 0:09:07.040 --> 0:09:09.080 thing that I also think is important with State of 0:09:09.080 --> 0:09:11.360 the People. We saw every city we were going to 0:09:11.400 --> 0:09:16.040 andrew right before we got there, something happened that necessitated 0:09:16.200 --> 0:09:19.280 us being there in coalition with local orgers and national orgs. 0:09:19.280 --> 0:09:22.440 And something happened in Minnesota Saturday too. We were already coming. 0:09:22.440 --> 0:09:24.160 We knew as a Thursday. We didn't know a whole week, 0:09:24.200 --> 0:09:26.200 but we knew as a Thursday we were going to 0:09:26.240 --> 0:09:29.640 be here. Something happened last Saturday. On January twenty fourth, 0:09:29.920 --> 0:09:32.520 Alex Preddy, which is who is a thirty seven year 0:09:32.559 --> 0:09:36.079 old intensive care nurse for the United States Department of 0:09:36.160 --> 0:09:39.600 Veterans Affairs, was murdered in cold blood. He was shot 0:09:39.720 --> 0:09:43.880 multiple times by Customs and Border Protection. That's a very 0:09:43.920 --> 0:09:46.520 important thing for you all to hear Customs and Border Protection, 0:09:46.559 --> 0:09:51.120 which is the Border Patrol CBP officers. After multiple contradictions 0:09:51.120 --> 0:09:53.920 at every level of government, Trump is now calling for 0:09:54.080 --> 0:09:57.400 de escalating a little bit, among other things. 0:09:57.480 --> 0:09:58.240 Let's roll the clip. 0:09:58.920 --> 0:10:01.079 We're gonna dsk a little bit, but I will tell 0:10:01.120 --> 0:10:04.600 you you look at the numbers, they're doing better than 0:10:04.640 --> 0:10:06.640 they've done in many years. As we had a very 0:10:06.640 --> 0:10:11.319 reasonable conversation, very good conversation, if you believe the conversation, 0:10:11.400 --> 0:10:14.199 he'd like to get this thing over with. I don't 0:10:14.280 --> 0:10:16.600 like the fact that he was carrying a gun that 0:10:16.760 --> 0:10:19.319 was fully loaded and he had two magazines with him, 0:10:19.320 --> 0:10:23.120 and it's pretty unusual, but nobody knows when they saw 0:10:23.160 --> 0:10:25.520 the gun, how they saw the gun, everything else. The 0:10:25.520 --> 0:10:27.920 bottom lineer was terrible. Both of them were terrible. The 0:10:28.000 --> 0:10:31.840 other was terrible too. And I'm not sure about his parents, 0:10:31.840 --> 0:10:34.000 but I know her parents were big Trump fans. Makes 0:10:34.040 --> 0:10:37.280 me feel bad anyway, But I mean, I guess you 0:10:37.280 --> 0:10:38.319 could say even worse. 0:10:39.040 --> 0:10:42.199 Well, you know this man, I mean, he is a sociopath. 0:10:42.440 --> 0:10:44.880 I just I have to say this, and we'll get 0:10:44.880 --> 0:10:47.520 to this later. We're gonna have a full on conversation 0:10:47.559 --> 0:10:50.120 about alex Pretty's Second Amendment and when it applies and 0:10:50.200 --> 0:10:53.200 who it gets to apply to. But it is fascinating 0:10:53.240 --> 0:10:56.319 to me that he would focus so much on whether 0:10:56.400 --> 0:10:58.559 or not they were supporters. When you take the oath 0:10:58.600 --> 0:11:00.560 of office, y'all know this too. When you take the 0:11:00.559 --> 0:11:05.240 oath of office, you are serving everyone in your district, 0:11:05.240 --> 0:11:08.280 in your constituency. He's supposed to be serving the whole 0:11:08.280 --> 0:11:10.800 of America and all of our partners, all of you know, 0:11:10.880 --> 0:11:13.200 all of our allies. That's not what he's doing. He's 0:11:13.240 --> 0:11:16.320 like depending on if you're a Trump fan, not a supporter, 0:11:16.440 --> 0:11:19.040 a Trump fan, then he gets you get a different 0:11:19.080 --> 0:11:19.560 level of play. 0:11:19.600 --> 0:11:20.480 I just think it's crazy. 0:11:20.640 --> 0:11:23.600 Yeah, that's why in some ways it called the oath solemn, 0:11:24.360 --> 0:11:26.679 because there's some people on the other side who did 0:11:26.720 --> 0:11:29.360 everything in their power to ensure that you didn't descend 0:11:29.400 --> 0:11:34.160 to whatever that position of public trust is. But you 0:11:34.440 --> 0:11:37.360 make that oath, and you take that oath so seriously 0:11:37.480 --> 0:11:41.560 and so solemnly because you need the strength of not 0:11:41.600 --> 0:11:43.560 only your oath and your word, but your faith and 0:11:43.600 --> 0:11:45.840 everything else to keep you honest to it throughout the 0:11:45.880 --> 0:11:48.240 term of your service. That you've got to be. When 0:11:48.240 --> 0:11:50.320 you're elected governor, you're not governor for the people who 0:11:50.400 --> 0:11:52.319 voted for you. When you're elected mayor, is not that 0:11:52.400 --> 0:11:54.480 your mayor for the folks who went out and supported 0:11:54.480 --> 0:11:56.480 you and voted for you and didn't have a negative 0:11:56.520 --> 0:11:58.920 thing to say about you. You've got to be there 0:11:58.960 --> 0:12:02.120 in defense and protect and in service to all of them. 0:12:02.760 --> 0:12:05.040 And this president it's a hard lesson for him to learn. 0:12:05.160 --> 0:12:07.079 He's still not learned it. He's on his second term, 0:12:07.080 --> 0:12:10.240 in his third try, you know, for president, and it's 0:12:10.280 --> 0:12:12.560 not a lisson he's learned. But I also, you know, 0:12:13.080 --> 0:12:16.440 like so many things in Trump's America right now, we've 0:12:16.480 --> 0:12:19.560 had to de sensitize ourselves and lower our expectations for 0:12:19.600 --> 0:12:22.600 what the outcome is going to be. We're at the 0:12:22.720 --> 0:12:28.400 lowest basic, lowest common point of agreement when it comes 0:12:28.400 --> 0:12:32.600 to what to expect from this administration. I appreciated the 0:12:32.640 --> 0:12:38.000 President acknowledging how difficult the loss of both these souls are. 0:12:38.600 --> 0:12:40.360 I don't know how sincere it is, but it was 0:12:40.400 --> 0:12:43.160 important for the President to allow those words to cross 0:12:43.200 --> 0:12:45.160 his lips and for the American people to hear it. 0:12:45.200 --> 0:12:47.959 Whether we believe it fully or not, it's still needed 0:12:48.000 --> 0:12:52.240 to be said. And so that's the most supportive thing 0:12:52.280 --> 0:12:53.960 I can say about you know, those commons. 0:12:54.000 --> 0:12:54.679 I don't even. 0:12:57.480 --> 0:13:02.040 That's the statement say. 0:13:02.160 --> 0:13:06.000 Look, I will just say that I think a little 0:13:06.000 --> 0:13:07.800 bit differently about the fact that he said those words, 0:13:07.840 --> 0:13:10.520 is that means trying to see why A Okay, he 0:13:10.600 --> 0:13:13.439 is trying to cover his ass, and that's what he's 0:13:13.440 --> 0:13:15.720 trying to do. And so there's a little bit in there. 0:13:15.800 --> 0:13:17.679 He sprinkles in there, a tiny bit of humanity, not 0:13:17.760 --> 0:13:20.040 because I think he feels it, but because he knows 0:13:20.080 --> 0:13:22.920 people are watching, and he knows that people are getting 0:13:22.960 --> 0:13:24.800 pissed and they're getting sick and tired of him, and 0:13:24.840 --> 0:13:26.800 we're seeing it more and more across the country. So 0:13:26.880 --> 0:13:28.760 I just look at it as you know what. I 0:13:28.760 --> 0:13:31.120 don't believe him, but I think that that is a 0:13:31.160 --> 0:13:35.880 strong indicator that he knows that his popularity, his approval, 0:13:35.920 --> 0:13:37.320 and everything is declining. 0:13:37.640 --> 0:13:40.880 One thing we see often is when superstars use their 0:13:40.880 --> 0:13:43.280 platform to speak to an issue, sometimes it gets a 0:13:43.280 --> 0:13:44.800 little bit more attention. 0:13:44.960 --> 0:13:46.640 So San Antonio superstar Victor. 0:13:46.679 --> 0:13:50.000 When Biyama Wimby also spoke up about Alex Pretty and 0:13:50.040 --> 0:13:54.040 his own struggle with speaking out period given his immigration 0:13:54.120 --> 0:13:55.520 status in this country, let's roll. 0:13:55.440 --> 0:13:58.240 That pr has tried it. I'm not going to sit 0:13:58.320 --> 0:14:03.720 here and give completely correct you know, I know, uh, 0:14:04.400 --> 0:14:06.280 I mean I'm this every day I wake up and 0:14:06.360 --> 0:14:10.800 see the news and I'm horrified. I think the it's 0:14:10.840 --> 0:14:14.839 crazy that some people might make it seem like or 0:14:14.880 --> 0:14:17.520 make it sound like it's acceptable the murder, like the 0:14:17.600 --> 0:14:19.400 murder of civilians is acceptable, you. 0:14:19.320 --> 0:14:22.880 Know every day. 0:14:22.920 --> 0:14:26.280 I mean, I I read the news and I'm sometimes 0:14:26.320 --> 0:14:30.400 I'm asking very deep questions about my own life. But 0:14:30.480 --> 0:14:37.080 you know, I'm conscious also that saying everything you know 0:14:37.160 --> 0:14:38.760 that's on my mind would have a cost that's too 0:14:38.760 --> 0:14:42.280 great for me right now. So it's a I'd rather 0:14:42.400 --> 0:14:44.480 not get into too many details. Is that kind of 0:14:44.960 --> 0:14:47.480 a big factor in this, that people have that fear 0:14:47.880 --> 0:14:51.840 that if they speak openly about an injustice they see, 0:14:51.880 --> 0:14:55.720 there can be repercussions. Oh for sure, I mean. 0:14:57.160 --> 0:14:57.760 It's terrible. 0:14:58.160 --> 0:15:01.280 It's a and you know, you know, I know, I know, 0:15:01.320 --> 0:15:04.640 I'm I'm a foreigner, you know, I live in this country. No, 0:15:04.880 --> 0:15:06.560 I am concerned for sure. 0:15:06.880 --> 0:15:10.760 Is that part of your hesitance being a foreigner? Does 0:15:10.760 --> 0:15:11.520 that play into. 0:15:11.360 --> 0:15:14.800 Your Oh for sure, for sure. I mean it's uh yeah, 0:15:15.760 --> 0:15:20.000 people speaking their mind, no matter no matter the subject, 0:15:20.000 --> 0:15:22.720 you know, And it's I think it's it definitely takes 0:15:22.720 --> 0:15:25.520 some balls, it itch, and every one of us has 0:15:25.560 --> 0:15:27.040 to decide the price, you know, we're willing to pay. 0:15:27.200 --> 0:15:28.720 And you decided that today. 0:15:28.720 --> 0:15:31.280 You could have said, yeah, I think I think, I 0:15:31.320 --> 0:15:34.840 think that's enough details though for now, you know, if 0:15:35.200 --> 0:15:37.560 privately we can discuss it, maybe later, but not right now. 0:15:38.000 --> 0:15:40.320 Three points and two of them are the same. The 0:15:40.320 --> 0:15:42.000 first is when he first opened his mouth, he said, 0:15:42.000 --> 0:15:44.840 PR tried, they did. That's what he said. That stuck 0:15:44.840 --> 0:15:48.360 out to me. And sometimes I listen to people as 0:15:48.360 --> 0:15:50.520 a lawyer, like I'm about to cross examine them, and 0:15:50.560 --> 0:15:53.000 so things stick out. He said, PR tried. And then 0:15:53.040 --> 0:15:57.120 he went and directly told you that the risk of 0:15:57.160 --> 0:16:01.200 speaking his mind truly outweighed what he could afford at 0:16:01.200 --> 0:16:04.240 this time. So those things were like one A, one 0:16:04.280 --> 0:16:06.800 B for me. And the second thing is where he's from. 0:16:06.920 --> 0:16:09.320 So let's talk about the first. I mean. The reporter 0:16:09.400 --> 0:16:11.600 dug deep and said, yeah, I mean, the president has 0:16:11.600 --> 0:16:16.760 been extremely successful at stifling free speech in this country, 0:16:16.880 --> 0:16:19.480 being a free speech absolutionist. By the way, those who 0:16:19.520 --> 0:16:21.680 are listening and not watching, I'm using air quotes right, 0:16:22.080 --> 0:16:25.360 And it's fascinating to see how they find themselves in 0:16:25.400 --> 0:16:27.520 the mode of Charlie Kirk, who want to be these 0:16:27.600 --> 0:16:30.920 free speech abolitionists, but yet their goal is to stifle 0:16:31.240 --> 0:16:34.840 create fear and get people like Victor Winbiyamba also known 0:16:34.840 --> 0:16:37.760 as Winby to be able to get on and not 0:16:37.880 --> 0:16:41.320 use this platform, kind of contrary to Steve Kerr, who 0:16:41.320 --> 0:16:43.720 says whatever the Steve Kerr wants to say when he 0:16:43.760 --> 0:16:46.480 wants to say it. It also has to do with 0:16:46.520 --> 0:16:48.760 the fact that Steve Kurr and Golden State and has 0:16:48.800 --> 0:16:52.560 a very unique ownership that don't care. And Victor finds 0:16:52.640 --> 0:16:55.600 himself in San Antonio, Texas, right, they might deport his 0:16:55.680 --> 0:17:00.440 ass tomorrow. Okay. The other thing is like Victor's from France, right, 0:17:01.440 --> 0:17:03.400 it just highlights how the rest of the world is 0:17:03.440 --> 0:17:07.080 looking at us. Victor really wanted to say, like, like 0:17:07.880 --> 0:17:12.800 they're killing people in the street using totalitarian therapy, how 0:17:12.800 --> 0:17:18.080 you pronounce it, authoritarian regimes, and y'all voted for this shit, 0:17:18.640 --> 0:17:20.880 like that's what he wanted to say, Like the people 0:17:20.880 --> 0:17:23.240 who come to my games, the people who pay my salary, 0:17:23.720 --> 0:17:25.960 y'all voted for this. And he wanted to be like, 0:17:26.040 --> 0:17:28.720 I don't understand. I don't this is not very French, 0:17:28.800 --> 0:17:30.879 I don't understand it. And that's how the rest of 0:17:30.920 --> 0:17:32.320 the world is looking at us. With this kind of 0:17:32.359 --> 0:17:33.440 a funnlement. 0:17:33.400 --> 0:17:36.399 Well, and to that point, I think it's important for 0:17:36.480 --> 0:17:39.399 us to understand why tensions are so high. Of course, 0:17:39.480 --> 0:17:42.440 even when you have status and you are making millions 0:17:42.480 --> 0:17:46.120 upon millions every year as an NBA player, it's still 0:17:46.160 --> 0:17:49.119 hard to speak up. Apparently, hopefully he will find his courage. 0:17:49.160 --> 0:17:51.080 But I'm grateful for what he did say. But as 0:17:51.119 --> 0:17:53.960 a result of the rising tensions throughout the country and 0:17:54.000 --> 0:17:56.800 the inability of this White House to tone down hateful rhetoric, 0:17:57.119 --> 0:18:07.760 members of Congress have come under attack this past week. 0:18:00.160 --> 0:18:14.880 In Florida, Congressman Maxwell Frost was punched, and just on Tuesday, 0:18:14.960 --> 0:18:16.720 right down the street from where our town hall was 0:18:16.760 --> 0:18:20.320 being held, ilhan Omar, Congressoman Ilhan Omar was subjected to 0:18:20.359 --> 0:18:23.399 an attack by an erratic white man at her own 0:18:23.640 --> 0:18:24.440 town hall event. 0:18:24.840 --> 0:18:42.000 You know, him must resign or face impeachment. I don't know. 0:18:42.920 --> 0:18:45.400 We will continue this. I'm not going to get away, 0:18:45.520 --> 0:18:45.920 an't you. 0:18:46.720 --> 0:18:49.359 The GOP response was it was staged And this is 0:18:49.400 --> 0:18:52.040 what Donald Trump said to Rachel Scott in a phone 0:18:52.119 --> 0:18:56.560 interview on Tuesday night. Rachel says, just spoke to President Trump, 0:18:56.600 --> 0:18:58.280 and we're putting that tweet up for you all as well. 0:18:58.760 --> 0:19:01.480 But for those listening if he had seen the video 0:19:01.600 --> 0:19:04.840 of Representative Omar being attacked and sprayed by a substance. 0:19:05.520 --> 0:19:08.320 His quote, no, I don't think about her. I think 0:19:08.359 --> 0:19:11.240 she's a fraud. I really don't think about that. She 0:19:11.440 --> 0:19:17.120 probably had herself sprayed knowing her end quote. He says 0:19:17.119 --> 0:19:20.919 that he hasn't seen the video and he doesn't have 0:19:21.000 --> 0:19:24.560 to bother And so this, you know, reminds me of 0:19:24.600 --> 0:19:26.680 what he said around January sixth, or what he refused 0:19:26.680 --> 0:19:27.520 to say. 0:19:27.440 --> 0:19:28.600 Around January sixth. 0:19:28.600 --> 0:19:31.400 And in a moment like this where he's talking about 0:19:31.400 --> 0:19:34.200 whether or not Alex Pretty's family or fans, or whether 0:19:34.280 --> 0:19:37.160 or not Renee Good's family are friends, he's still about 0:19:37.600 --> 0:19:41.080 one of Minnesota's representatives, Stokey the flame. 0:19:41.600 --> 0:19:44.280 And I mean, are we really surprised after the response 0:19:44.359 --> 0:19:47.040 or let's say, non response to the assassination of Melissa Hartman. 0:19:47.520 --> 0:19:50.000 It's true we keep seeing this over again. 0:19:50.440 --> 0:19:52.280 That Jesus, we're not right down the street. 0:19:52.359 --> 0:19:57.320