1 00:00:02,800 --> 00:00:05,400 Speaker 1: Beyond the Beauty is a production of I Heart Radio. 2 00:00:05,920 --> 00:00:14,600 Speaker 1: I'm your host, Bobby Brown. I wanted to talk to 3 00:00:14,680 --> 00:00:19,439 Speaker 1: Jake Rosenberg because I find him besides so dear to me, 4 00:00:19,840 --> 00:00:23,239 Speaker 1: he's one of the first guys that really figured out 5 00:00:23,400 --> 00:00:26,799 Speaker 1: how to create a digital brand, a media company based 6 00:00:26,960 --> 00:00:30,280 Speaker 1: on social media and content. And I find that right 7 00:00:30,280 --> 00:00:32,239 Speaker 1: now it's very common, but he was the first one. 8 00:00:32,280 --> 00:00:34,239 Speaker 1: I wanted to find out how he did it and 9 00:00:34,360 --> 00:00:38,000 Speaker 1: just really introduce a lot of my listeners to someone 10 00:00:38,040 --> 00:00:40,879 Speaker 1: that I think is so awesome. We're buds, were friends. 11 00:00:41,040 --> 00:00:43,360 Speaker 1: When I need something, he's there. When he needs something, 12 00:00:43,400 --> 00:00:46,600 Speaker 1: I'm there. And you know, he's like my fourth or 13 00:00:46,640 --> 00:00:49,160 Speaker 1: my six son, depending you know when you caught my nephews. 14 00:00:50,040 --> 00:00:52,720 Speaker 1: So Jake launched the Covidure when he was only twenty 15 00:00:52,800 --> 00:00:55,680 Speaker 1: three in two thousand and eleven, is a passion project. 16 00:00:55,880 --> 00:00:58,280 Speaker 1: It was just a fun thing for him. His idea 17 00:00:58,400 --> 00:01:00,960 Speaker 1: was to write about the items that's the celebrities coveted. 18 00:01:01,480 --> 00:01:04,479 Speaker 1: And now Jake has been on the Forbes thirty thirty list, 19 00:01:04,959 --> 00:01:07,520 Speaker 1: He's published a book, and he has offices in New 20 00:01:07,600 --> 00:01:10,959 Speaker 1: York and Toronto. He's hung out with everyone from Oprah 21 00:01:11,000 --> 00:01:14,280 Speaker 1: to Cindy Crawford to Meg and Marcle and I just 22 00:01:14,319 --> 00:01:16,080 Speaker 1: want to know how did you do it? How did 23 00:01:16,120 --> 00:01:18,399 Speaker 1: you get your first job with Chanelle? Here is my 24 00:01:18,520 --> 00:01:24,280 Speaker 1: conversation with Jake Rosenberg. So I'm here with my and 25 00:01:24,319 --> 00:01:26,000 Speaker 1: it's going to take me a minute to even figure 26 00:01:26,040 --> 00:01:27,800 Speaker 1: out what I'm going to say, because he is my 27 00:01:27,880 --> 00:01:31,759 Speaker 1: good friend, he is my partner in some work things, 28 00:01:32,160 --> 00:01:35,039 Speaker 1: but he's also kind of like an adopted son, which 29 00:01:35,200 --> 00:01:37,960 Speaker 1: I can't even explain. People I say, how did you 30 00:01:38,000 --> 00:01:41,080 Speaker 1: meet Jake Rosenberg? And I actually met him when he 31 00:01:41,120 --> 00:01:42,720 Speaker 1: came to my house to shoot me, And I don't 32 00:01:42,720 --> 00:01:45,440 Speaker 1: know what it was about him or us, but we 33 00:01:45,560 --> 00:01:48,080 Speaker 1: just bonded totally. Yeah, I mean I can remember that 34 00:01:48,200 --> 00:01:52,440 Speaker 1: day so well. I remember we drove up to Montclair, 35 00:01:52,720 --> 00:01:55,840 Speaker 1: didn't know we hadn't met yet. I was nervous, but 36 00:01:55,920 --> 00:01:59,720 Speaker 1: excited and nervous. You've been in Cindy Crawford's closet, and 37 00:02:00,320 --> 00:02:02,640 Speaker 1: name a person you've been in their closet. I know, 38 00:02:02,840 --> 00:02:05,360 Speaker 1: but I was so excited to meet you and hang 39 00:02:05,400 --> 00:02:08,040 Speaker 1: out and showed up and I mean instantly, I feel 40 00:02:08,080 --> 00:02:10,200 Speaker 1: like we just like hit it off. I remember you 41 00:02:10,320 --> 00:02:13,399 Speaker 1: obviously had a big spread of food I was starting. 42 00:02:13,480 --> 00:02:16,320 Speaker 1: We hung out for the whole afternoon, traded stories, and 43 00:02:16,680 --> 00:02:20,000 Speaker 1: became fast friends right away. And and your style, which 44 00:02:20,040 --> 00:02:23,120 Speaker 1: I want to talk about, is basically to shoot where 45 00:02:23,440 --> 00:02:27,000 Speaker 1: I live with my things, and I happen to have 46 00:02:27,040 --> 00:02:29,520 Speaker 1: a lot of really cool things in my closet. I 47 00:02:29,560 --> 00:02:33,919 Speaker 1: never wear from really fancy shoes and purses, and literally 48 00:02:33,960 --> 00:02:35,640 Speaker 1: they were all over my house when you were taking 49 00:02:35,639 --> 00:02:38,480 Speaker 1: these amazing pictures. I think I found a couple of 50 00:02:38,520 --> 00:02:42,080 Speaker 1: my product pumps, like for months after that, just in 51 00:02:42,200 --> 00:02:45,119 Speaker 1: random areas in the house. Yeah, yeah, definitely. I mean 52 00:02:45,160 --> 00:02:49,000 Speaker 1: I think when we come over to somebody's house, I 53 00:02:49,040 --> 00:02:51,480 Speaker 1: think every time, you know, we're somewhere, somebody's always like, 54 00:02:51,520 --> 00:02:53,680 Speaker 1: oh my god, I totally forgot I even had that, 55 00:02:53,840 --> 00:02:56,000 Speaker 1: Or you know, they get to kind of reimagine their 56 00:02:56,000 --> 00:02:59,200 Speaker 1: closet because we're going through finding things that we, you know, 57 00:02:59,320 --> 00:03:03,800 Speaker 1: feel represent a certain aspect of style and whoever we're covering, 58 00:03:03,840 --> 00:03:06,880 Speaker 1: And you know, going through your closet, there was endless 59 00:03:06,880 --> 00:03:09,720 Speaker 1: pieces that we pulled out and styled around your home 60 00:03:09,800 --> 00:03:11,800 Speaker 1: and I had a lot of fun with. So let's 61 00:03:11,800 --> 00:03:15,079 Speaker 1: just go back and talk about the coverture and how 62 00:03:15,160 --> 00:03:18,200 Speaker 1: you got the idea for this. Were you a photographer beforehand? 63 00:03:18,560 --> 00:03:21,560 Speaker 1: So I was shooting before? Does that not mean you're 64 00:03:21,600 --> 00:03:25,519 Speaker 1: a photographer? What were you shooting? I was assisting photographers. 65 00:03:25,639 --> 00:03:29,320 Speaker 1: But really when this all kind of came together, it 66 00:03:29,400 --> 00:03:31,919 Speaker 1: was it was a passion project. I had just finished 67 00:03:31,919 --> 00:03:35,520 Speaker 1: an industrial design degree. Um I was. I was more 68 00:03:35,560 --> 00:03:39,200 Speaker 1: in the outdoorsy world and obsessed with a lot of 69 00:03:39,240 --> 00:03:41,600 Speaker 1: different brands. But I did not come from a fashion 70 00:03:41,640 --> 00:03:46,960 Speaker 1: background whatsoever. I was assisting different photographers, different fashion photographers 71 00:03:47,040 --> 00:03:50,840 Speaker 1: while studying a design degree. Became obsessed with branding and 72 00:03:50,960 --> 00:03:55,120 Speaker 1: storytelling and and all those different aspects. While I was 73 00:03:55,640 --> 00:03:58,960 Speaker 1: starting to build my portfolio and photography, and I met 74 00:03:59,400 --> 00:04:02,600 Speaker 1: who became business partners and we worked on a look 75 00:04:02,640 --> 00:04:05,520 Speaker 1: book together, had a great time. And this is all 76 00:04:05,640 --> 00:04:12,440 Speaker 1: pre everything, every digital magazine, pre influencers. Yeah, at the beginning. 77 00:04:12,440 --> 00:04:14,360 Speaker 1: This was like right at the beginning when digital was, 78 00:04:14,520 --> 00:04:18,320 Speaker 1: you know, magazines were just thinking about digital properties and 79 00:04:18,600 --> 00:04:22,440 Speaker 1: pre Instagram, pre influencers, pre Instagram, isn't it. I don't 80 00:04:22,440 --> 00:04:24,960 Speaker 1: even remember. Pre inst Twitter was the thing, and that 81 00:04:25,080 --> 00:04:27,720 Speaker 1: was like a very successful piece of our our little puzzle. 82 00:04:28,080 --> 00:04:30,000 Speaker 1: But it was it was all. This was fun, This 83 00:04:30,040 --> 00:04:32,760 Speaker 1: was a passion project. You know, street style was a 84 00:04:32,800 --> 00:04:35,799 Speaker 1: really big thing at the time, and so we didn't 85 00:04:35,800 --> 00:04:37,520 Speaker 1: want to do street style, but we wanted to take 86 00:04:37,560 --> 00:04:39,640 Speaker 1: it one step further and see, you know, who are 87 00:04:39,680 --> 00:04:42,360 Speaker 1: these people, where do they get ready? What? You know, 88 00:04:42,400 --> 00:04:45,040 Speaker 1: why do they choose the pieces that they choose to wear? 89 00:04:45,520 --> 00:04:48,240 Speaker 1: And it was really all based around inspiration and so 90 00:04:48,320 --> 00:04:51,400 Speaker 1: who inspired us? It wasn't there was no influencer. There 91 00:04:51,440 --> 00:04:53,560 Speaker 1: was not then how did you talk people and to 92 00:04:53,680 --> 00:04:55,640 Speaker 1: do this in the beginning, who's the first person who 93 00:04:55,680 --> 00:04:58,640 Speaker 1: did and who is the biggest get ever? Um? Oh 94 00:04:58,680 --> 00:05:01,800 Speaker 1: my goodness. So we won't even talk about like the 95 00:05:01,800 --> 00:05:04,760 Speaker 1: biggest anything, and but we will jump ahead to the 96 00:05:04,760 --> 00:05:08,599 Speaker 1: time where I turned on the TV at Megan Marcle's wedding. 97 00:05:09,480 --> 00:05:11,520 Speaker 1: But you and I did shoot her one day in 98 00:05:11,520 --> 00:05:14,200 Speaker 1: the city together and you were walking in the chapel 99 00:05:14,560 --> 00:05:18,279 Speaker 1: with Oprah. I think, I think my phone my instrument. 100 00:05:18,320 --> 00:05:20,760 Speaker 1: Everyone was like, it's your guy, Jake, what's going on? 101 00:05:20,880 --> 00:05:22,960 Speaker 1: So we'll let everybody like, we'll go back to that 102 00:05:23,000 --> 00:05:26,000 Speaker 1: story in a minute. I mean, at the beginning, who 103 00:05:26,440 --> 00:05:29,320 Speaker 1: were the first we launched the site with six different people. 104 00:05:29,800 --> 00:05:32,120 Speaker 1: I remember it was my you know, our first trip 105 00:05:32,160 --> 00:05:36,719 Speaker 1: to New York. We shot Mary Kate Stein Miller, Eugene Tongue, 106 00:05:37,080 --> 00:05:41,720 Speaker 1: Mona so fashion influencers, they weren't really they weren't influencers though. 107 00:05:41,760 --> 00:05:44,080 Speaker 1: This was like when the editor. It was all about 108 00:05:44,120 --> 00:05:46,960 Speaker 1: the people, you know, behind the scenes. Who was who 109 00:05:47,120 --> 00:05:49,000 Speaker 1: you see a celebrity walk down the red carpet, but 110 00:05:49,000 --> 00:05:51,080 Speaker 1: who styled here did her hair and makeup? Who are 111 00:05:51,080 --> 00:05:53,760 Speaker 1: the editors at magazines who now have become you know, 112 00:05:53,800 --> 00:05:56,880 Speaker 1: they have a whole public you know, personal about them now? 113 00:05:57,080 --> 00:05:59,120 Speaker 1: The cool girls behind yeah, there were It was like 114 00:05:59,160 --> 00:06:01,480 Speaker 1: who's behind the scene, who's setting the trends out there? 115 00:06:01,480 --> 00:06:04,799 Speaker 1: And so we shot a bunch of different people, all 116 00:06:05,120 --> 00:06:08,120 Speaker 1: sort of through word of mouth or within our you 117 00:06:08,120 --> 00:06:11,560 Speaker 1: know network, And it was sitting, you know, in a 118 00:06:11,600 --> 00:06:14,400 Speaker 1: living room, cold emailing people being like, hey, we have 119 00:06:14,520 --> 00:06:17,120 Speaker 1: this concept, um, you know, we'd love to come over 120 00:06:17,160 --> 00:06:18,760 Speaker 1: and do it. And it was something that people weren't 121 00:06:18,760 --> 00:06:21,360 Speaker 1: really doing, and we'd go over to somebody's house. They 122 00:06:21,360 --> 00:06:23,120 Speaker 1: would have such a great time and they'd be like, 123 00:06:23,160 --> 00:06:25,239 Speaker 1: oh my god, that was amazing. You gotta go shoot 124 00:06:25,279 --> 00:06:27,640 Speaker 1: my friend. And their friend happened to be somebody else 125 00:06:27,640 --> 00:06:30,120 Speaker 1: in the industry, who we would want a feature. So, 126 00:06:30,320 --> 00:06:32,160 Speaker 1: you know, at the beginning, it was all it was 127 00:06:32,200 --> 00:06:34,280 Speaker 1: all definitely word of mouth. We banked a lot of 128 00:06:34,320 --> 00:06:37,080 Speaker 1: content and we're just shooting. It was it was we'd 129 00:06:37,080 --> 00:06:40,240 Speaker 1: come to a city and shoot five people a day 130 00:06:40,360 --> 00:06:42,600 Speaker 1: every day for ten days. It was like no sleep, 131 00:06:42,640 --> 00:06:45,760 Speaker 1: all work, but so much fun. And launched the site 132 00:06:45,880 --> 00:06:49,080 Speaker 1: January two thousand eleven. And the day we launched it 133 00:06:49,160 --> 00:06:51,159 Speaker 1: crashed and we were like, Okay, I guess this is 134 00:06:51,200 --> 00:06:54,279 Speaker 1: something we're gonna do the whole time. Now, Wow, it 135 00:06:54,360 --> 00:06:57,760 Speaker 1: crashed and what happens when it crashes. So we didn't 136 00:06:57,760 --> 00:07:01,279 Speaker 1: expect that many people to come on the first day. Um, 137 00:07:01,600 --> 00:07:04,480 Speaker 1: and so I remember we were at Tracy Taylor's house 138 00:07:04,880 --> 00:07:06,479 Speaker 1: on the first day we launched, and we shot all 139 00:07:06,520 --> 00:07:08,320 Speaker 1: these people and we didn't have anything to show them yet. 140 00:07:08,320 --> 00:07:10,080 Speaker 1: You know. They were kind of just letting us do 141 00:07:10,160 --> 00:07:13,640 Speaker 1: our thing and having fun. And so finally we were 142 00:07:13,680 --> 00:07:16,360 Speaker 1: at Tracy's house and we pushed published in the morning 143 00:07:16,360 --> 00:07:18,200 Speaker 1: and we went off to go shoot during the day 144 00:07:18,600 --> 00:07:20,480 Speaker 1: and Tracey's like, Okay, we're gonna show you what this 145 00:07:20,480 --> 00:07:22,480 Speaker 1: looks like and typed in www. At the time was 146 00:07:22,480 --> 00:07:25,120 Speaker 1: a cover tour Dot com and we got four oh 147 00:07:25,200 --> 00:07:27,680 Speaker 1: four over capacity and we're like, what is going on? 148 00:07:27,760 --> 00:07:30,240 Speaker 1: Like the site, the traffic was over capacity on the 149 00:07:30,280 --> 00:07:32,280 Speaker 1: first day, and it was all sort of like a 150 00:07:32,320 --> 00:07:34,840 Speaker 1: domino effect of Twitter. I mean, we shot people from 151 00:07:34,880 --> 00:07:37,640 Speaker 1: at the time. They're at teen, Vogue and Details and 152 00:07:37,720 --> 00:07:40,680 Speaker 1: Harper's and you know a store called Whole Runfrew in 153 00:07:40,720 --> 00:07:44,440 Speaker 1: Toronto and Flair Magazine and everybody promoted it on their 154 00:07:44,440 --> 00:07:47,200 Speaker 1: different twitters at the time. Jake's Canadian if you haven't 155 00:07:47,240 --> 00:07:49,840 Speaker 1: figured that out, and I'm from Toronto, Canada, and that 156 00:07:49,960 --> 00:07:52,160 Speaker 1: kind of you know, created this this whole you know 157 00:07:52,320 --> 00:07:54,520 Speaker 1: buzz and and then style dot com wrote about it 158 00:07:54,520 --> 00:07:57,080 Speaker 1: at the time and and then it just crashed on 159 00:07:57,120 --> 00:07:59,080 Speaker 1: the first step. And who was your first celebrity you 160 00:07:59,160 --> 00:08:03,200 Speaker 1: ever did the first celebrity? I remember when my photography 161 00:08:03,240 --> 00:08:05,760 Speaker 1: style really like kicked in and changed. I was at 162 00:08:05,840 --> 00:08:08,400 Speaker 1: Jamie King's house and I remember that one where I 163 00:08:08,400 --> 00:08:09,920 Speaker 1: walked away from that shoot and I was like, whoa 164 00:08:10,040 --> 00:08:12,720 Speaker 1: this this this is really cool. But I mean there's 165 00:08:12,760 --> 00:08:15,920 Speaker 1: been there's been so many account was amazing inspiring people, 166 00:08:16,040 --> 00:08:20,360 Speaker 1: including yourself. But I have been able to be fortunate 167 00:08:20,440 --> 00:08:23,119 Speaker 1: enough to work with meat from all over the world. 168 00:08:33,600 --> 00:08:37,680 Speaker 1: It's such an incredibly fascinating thing to watch. I mean, 169 00:08:37,880 --> 00:08:39,800 Speaker 1: you know, the site is so cool, it's so amazing. 170 00:08:39,840 --> 00:08:44,679 Speaker 1: Congratulations you just sold it, which is awesome, and who 171 00:08:44,760 --> 00:08:47,360 Speaker 1: knows what's going to happen next, but of exciting things, 172 00:08:48,000 --> 00:08:51,680 Speaker 1: it's really cool. But you know, your photography is also 173 00:08:52,160 --> 00:08:55,000 Speaker 1: you know, you're getting known as a photographer, so I mean, 174 00:08:55,080 --> 00:08:57,360 Speaker 1: you're not getting known, you're known as a photographer and 175 00:08:57,400 --> 00:09:00,600 Speaker 1: you get to travel the globe shooting some of the 176 00:09:00,640 --> 00:09:04,520 Speaker 1: coolest parties and you are there's no one better on 177 00:09:04,600 --> 00:09:09,600 Speaker 1: Instagram than you showing these amazing scenes. And but you're 178 00:09:09,880 --> 00:09:12,960 Speaker 1: kind of self taught in the photography. Yeah, I mean 179 00:09:13,040 --> 00:09:15,560 Speaker 1: photography growing up and I gotta, you know, give a 180 00:09:15,559 --> 00:09:18,040 Speaker 1: big shout out to my dad. There was always always 181 00:09:18,040 --> 00:09:22,320 Speaker 1: a camera around, uh, you know, any stage throughout my life. 182 00:09:22,320 --> 00:09:24,880 Speaker 1: I take a lot of inspiration from him and other 183 00:09:25,040 --> 00:09:28,520 Speaker 1: photographers and you know, different people around the world. But 184 00:09:28,559 --> 00:09:32,440 Speaker 1: photography for me was a creative outlet. I've been shooting forever. 185 00:09:32,760 --> 00:09:35,560 Speaker 1: I started to take it a lot more seriously, are 186 00:09:35,559 --> 00:09:38,600 Speaker 1: a lot more serious around the time I was in 187 00:09:38,720 --> 00:09:43,160 Speaker 1: university and and decided that was something I wanted to pursue. 188 00:09:43,320 --> 00:09:45,720 Speaker 1: There's a lot of influential people around me at the 189 00:09:45,760 --> 00:09:48,720 Speaker 1: time and started to assist and my photography style then 190 00:09:48,840 --> 00:09:52,160 Speaker 1: versus what it became, it was totally different. You know, 191 00:09:52,200 --> 00:09:54,480 Speaker 1: I developed as as a person, as an artist, as 192 00:09:54,480 --> 00:09:58,440 Speaker 1: a photographer and started to shoot in a specific style. 193 00:09:58,520 --> 00:10:01,520 Speaker 1: I think because you know, you experienced it when I 194 00:10:01,559 --> 00:10:03,560 Speaker 1: come over or when I started to go over to 195 00:10:03,559 --> 00:10:07,079 Speaker 1: people's houses. I mean we would we would spend two 196 00:10:07,160 --> 00:10:11,240 Speaker 1: hours together, you know, create so much amazing content and 197 00:10:11,280 --> 00:10:13,959 Speaker 1: it wasn't really about this huge production, but it was 198 00:10:14,000 --> 00:10:16,760 Speaker 1: about a more intimate experience, which is so amazing because 199 00:10:16,760 --> 00:10:18,840 Speaker 1: often you do these things and you say, all right, fine, 200 00:10:18,840 --> 00:10:20,680 Speaker 1: and all of a sudden, how many people are coming in. 201 00:10:20,720 --> 00:10:23,880 Speaker 1: There's dozens of people in lights and Jake comes in 202 00:10:23,920 --> 00:10:26,520 Speaker 1: with his camera like, I don't do even have a light? 203 00:10:27,360 --> 00:10:29,520 Speaker 1: You have a light? Now? Definitely, yeah, definitely, I mean 204 00:10:29,720 --> 00:10:33,120 Speaker 1: it definitely has has progressed in term introduction, but you know, 205 00:10:33,160 --> 00:10:36,120 Speaker 1: on a specific we call them closet sheets. That was 206 00:10:37,000 --> 00:10:40,880 Speaker 1: to three people coming over Max and we would spend 207 00:10:41,240 --> 00:10:43,679 Speaker 1: a couple hours together, and for me, it would be 208 00:10:43,720 --> 00:10:47,439 Speaker 1: more about you know, connecting with the person with my subject, 209 00:10:47,720 --> 00:10:51,679 Speaker 1: and creating unique moments that nobody else could get, especially 210 00:10:51,720 --> 00:10:54,280 Speaker 1: when you're in somebody's personal space. You know, when you're 211 00:10:54,280 --> 00:10:56,560 Speaker 1: working in somebody's home, first of all, the home that 212 00:10:56,720 --> 00:10:59,680 Speaker 1: I've never been to or seen. You get inspired right away. 213 00:10:59,720 --> 00:11:02,000 Speaker 1: You again, you get a sense of who this person is, 214 00:11:02,040 --> 00:11:04,800 Speaker 1: and then I think, you know they are also in 215 00:11:04,840 --> 00:11:06,920 Speaker 1: a certain comfort level because they're in a space that 216 00:11:06,920 --> 00:11:09,240 Speaker 1: they're comfortable with. And then I mean, it's really just 217 00:11:09,280 --> 00:11:11,200 Speaker 1: about having a conversation. And by the end of the 218 00:11:11,320 --> 00:11:14,320 Speaker 1: two hours, we've we've shot X number of looks and 219 00:11:14,440 --> 00:11:16,880 Speaker 1: had the best time. And this speaks more to Jake 220 00:11:16,920 --> 00:11:19,960 Speaker 1: as the person, not the photographer or the creator of 221 00:11:20,040 --> 00:11:22,400 Speaker 1: this of this brand. But you come in and you 222 00:11:22,480 --> 00:11:25,920 Speaker 1: kind of disarm people because you are really cute. You 223 00:11:26,000 --> 00:11:29,040 Speaker 1: are also really nice. No, but you're also super sweet 224 00:11:29,080 --> 00:11:32,600 Speaker 1: and nice. You are You're You're the whole package. So 225 00:11:32,840 --> 00:11:34,880 Speaker 1: you know, I think it's really neat. So who is Jake? 226 00:11:34,920 --> 00:11:39,280 Speaker 1: Who is Jake? It's a big question. Jake Rosenberg is 227 00:11:40,240 --> 00:11:43,160 Speaker 1: from Toronto, Canada, love it They're miss it all the time, 228 00:11:43,200 --> 00:11:45,599 Speaker 1: but moved to New York four years ago. He is 229 00:11:45,640 --> 00:11:48,400 Speaker 1: the co founder and creative director of Covetour and how 230 00:11:48,440 --> 00:11:50,959 Speaker 1: would you describe covetur covetor is interesting. You know, it 231 00:11:51,040 --> 00:11:54,200 Speaker 1: started as a passion project. It's grown into a luxury 232 00:11:54,240 --> 00:11:57,720 Speaker 1: lifestyle media brand and I describe it as a brand 233 00:11:57,720 --> 00:11:59,680 Speaker 1: in the truest sense, you know. There we have a 234 00:12:00,000 --> 00:12:03,120 Speaker 1: effective we have a visual language. We have a lot 235 00:12:03,160 --> 00:12:07,679 Speaker 1: of different extensions that we speak to people through and 236 00:12:08,000 --> 00:12:10,000 Speaker 1: one of them is online, one of them is social. 237 00:12:10,440 --> 00:12:13,720 Speaker 1: We do you know, we're getting very into the experiential space, 238 00:12:14,120 --> 00:12:18,079 Speaker 1: getting into the product space. So it's been such an 239 00:12:18,160 --> 00:12:21,720 Speaker 1: awesome thing to watch coverage Tour grow over these nine years. 240 00:12:22,120 --> 00:12:24,760 Speaker 1: And you know, work with a team, build a team. 241 00:12:24,760 --> 00:12:28,920 Speaker 1: Who how many people on your team? Or about twenty people? 242 00:12:29,040 --> 00:12:34,880 Speaker 1: So you know we're we're still small, but we're it's um, 243 00:12:34,920 --> 00:12:37,120 Speaker 1: it's nothing without the team. You know. The team is 244 00:12:37,160 --> 00:12:41,080 Speaker 1: what makes cobag Tour so special. And we all work 245 00:12:41,200 --> 00:12:44,800 Speaker 1: so hard together towards a unified vision for what the 246 00:12:44,920 --> 00:12:48,000 Speaker 1: brand is and what it can be. Well, how did 247 00:12:48,040 --> 00:12:50,400 Speaker 1: you start working with the brands like Chanel and Louis 248 00:12:50,440 --> 00:12:54,240 Speaker 1: Vuitton and Door, Like, how did that happen? It was crazy? 249 00:12:54,440 --> 00:12:58,520 Speaker 1: It was I mean six months into cove Tour, we 250 00:12:58,640 --> 00:13:01,240 Speaker 1: launched it. We're having the best time and it was 251 00:13:01,320 --> 00:13:04,400 Speaker 1: just like us working as it was just working as 252 00:13:04,440 --> 00:13:07,160 Speaker 1: hard as we could to shoot as much as we could, 253 00:13:07,280 --> 00:13:10,120 Speaker 1: meet as many people as we could, and and the 254 00:13:10,160 --> 00:13:12,840 Speaker 1: way that we were doing it was unique, you know, 255 00:13:12,920 --> 00:13:15,360 Speaker 1: it is it is unique. It had a very specific 256 00:13:15,360 --> 00:13:17,560 Speaker 1: look and feels at the beginning of this whole you know, 257 00:13:17,920 --> 00:13:23,160 Speaker 1: digital boom for publications and really are our first like 258 00:13:23,920 --> 00:13:26,160 Speaker 1: brand partner with Chanelle. The first time, I was twenty 259 00:13:26,160 --> 00:13:28,760 Speaker 1: three years old and never been to Paris. I'd never 260 00:13:29,960 --> 00:13:33,040 Speaker 1: you know, worked in the luxury fashion space. Got off 261 00:13:33,080 --> 00:13:35,320 Speaker 1: the plane. There was a sign with you know, double 262 00:13:35,360 --> 00:13:39,840 Speaker 1: season it that said jud take a picture of it. 263 00:13:39,920 --> 00:13:42,600 Speaker 1: Took a picture of it, you know, went to the 264 00:13:42,640 --> 00:13:45,480 Speaker 1: mast sorrow, went to the Met Day collection show, met 265 00:13:45,520 --> 00:13:48,679 Speaker 1: Carl did a whole week in Paris with Chanelle uh 266 00:13:49,640 --> 00:13:52,040 Speaker 1: Old and it was just like what is going on? 267 00:13:52,960 --> 00:13:55,679 Speaker 1: And put that on the site and that was like 268 00:13:55,720 --> 00:13:58,600 Speaker 1: everybody was kind of like, whoa, What's what's going on here? 269 00:13:58,640 --> 00:14:01,760 Speaker 1: And and really, you know, a snowball. It was yeah, 270 00:14:01,800 --> 00:14:04,520 Speaker 1: I mean we started to We've always had a luxury 271 00:14:04,720 --> 00:14:08,319 Speaker 1: perspective to what we're doing, but we make it attainable. 272 00:14:08,600 --> 00:14:10,440 Speaker 1: We have fun with it. We definitely don't take things 273 00:14:10,520 --> 00:14:13,600 Speaker 1: too seriously. Well, I don't understand why you're even here 274 00:14:13,640 --> 00:14:16,160 Speaker 1: now or how you got here because you were on 275 00:14:16,200 --> 00:14:18,640 Speaker 1: the road. No, but you were on the road. Every 276 00:14:18,679 --> 00:14:21,800 Speaker 1: time I open up you know, my Instagram, you know, 277 00:14:21,880 --> 00:14:23,600 Speaker 1: I guess because I look at yours the most. It 278 00:14:23,640 --> 00:14:25,560 Speaker 1: pops up all the time. I'm like, where is he now? 279 00:14:26,080 --> 00:14:30,040 Speaker 1: Where is he now here? No, it's amazing. You travel 280 00:14:30,120 --> 00:14:33,200 Speaker 1: like twenty five days out of the month. So I was, no, 281 00:14:33,320 --> 00:14:35,360 Speaker 1: not anymore. There there was a period of time, I 282 00:14:35,360 --> 00:14:37,720 Speaker 1: think for six years there was like no life, all work, 283 00:14:37,840 --> 00:14:42,600 Speaker 1: but life was working life from twenty three to twenty nine, 284 00:14:42,760 --> 00:14:47,360 Speaker 1: let's say I was living in Toronto. Two oh and 285 00:14:47,400 --> 00:14:51,040 Speaker 1: you did make the list few that was that was 286 00:14:51,280 --> 00:14:56,480 Speaker 1: good highlight on Forbes, Yes, Forbes under thirty list. And 287 00:14:56,800 --> 00:14:58,400 Speaker 1: but yeah, there was definitely a period of time where 288 00:14:58,440 --> 00:15:00,920 Speaker 1: three weeks of every month I was, you know, people 289 00:15:00,920 --> 00:15:02,640 Speaker 1: called me a fetics package. I was just going from 290 00:15:02,680 --> 00:15:05,160 Speaker 1: one place to another to another, and I was I 291 00:15:05,200 --> 00:15:07,640 Speaker 1: was loving it, you know. And I never get burnt out. 292 00:15:07,640 --> 00:15:10,280 Speaker 1: I love it. I definitely get burnt out. But in 293 00:15:10,320 --> 00:15:12,520 Speaker 1: the beginning, did you too. Beginning for sure? I mean 294 00:15:12,520 --> 00:15:14,480 Speaker 1: you'd be on the road for I mean it could 295 00:15:14,520 --> 00:15:15,920 Speaker 1: be up to a month, could be more than that, 296 00:15:15,960 --> 00:15:18,200 Speaker 1: could be come back for two days, then leave again. 297 00:15:18,720 --> 00:15:20,840 Speaker 1: And I'll always remember if I do ever come home, 298 00:15:20,920 --> 00:15:22,560 Speaker 1: or I did ever come home for like a week, 299 00:15:22,600 --> 00:15:24,560 Speaker 1: I would sleep for more hours than like I'd see 300 00:15:24,600 --> 00:15:27,200 Speaker 1: for like eighteen hours straight, just like pass out and 301 00:15:27,240 --> 00:15:28,880 Speaker 1: then get up and I would just go do it 302 00:15:28,920 --> 00:15:31,280 Speaker 1: all over again because I was I mean, it's it 303 00:15:31,360 --> 00:15:33,480 Speaker 1: was amazing, It is amazing. And so how often are 304 00:15:33,520 --> 00:15:36,480 Speaker 1: you away now? And I used turning things down? I 305 00:15:36,520 --> 00:15:40,240 Speaker 1: think now, you know, we've been lucky enough to grow 306 00:15:40,600 --> 00:15:44,120 Speaker 1: the team, grow a lot of different aspects of the business, 307 00:15:44,120 --> 00:15:46,800 Speaker 1: and my role in the business has developed over the years. 308 00:15:46,840 --> 00:15:49,480 Speaker 1: You know, so I'm not just shooting every day all 309 00:15:49,560 --> 00:15:52,320 Speaker 1: day now, but I'm involved in so much more than that. 310 00:15:52,560 --> 00:15:57,040 Speaker 1: And there is other people, you know, taking on tasks 311 00:15:57,160 --> 00:16:01,280 Speaker 1: and and whether it's shoots or generally shoots that I 312 00:16:01,400 --> 00:16:03,600 Speaker 1: used to do. You know, we now have a lot 313 00:16:03,600 --> 00:16:07,160 Speaker 1: of people in our network that that we trust to 314 00:16:07,200 --> 00:16:10,480 Speaker 1: continue growing the brand on behalf of what we've built. 315 00:16:10,600 --> 00:16:12,880 Speaker 1: And I'm so glad you have my bend Ritter working 316 00:16:12,880 --> 00:16:16,520 Speaker 1: with you, which is crazy. I could see you guys friends. 317 00:16:16,720 --> 00:16:18,600 Speaker 1: I know what, I think. I didn't even know that 318 00:16:18,640 --> 00:16:22,040 Speaker 1: he knew you at the beginning. And I remember coming 319 00:16:22,040 --> 00:16:25,160 Speaker 1: across his work and maybe it was maybe it was three. 320 00:16:25,200 --> 00:16:27,880 Speaker 1: Actually he did something. He did beauty work for you, um, 321 00:16:27,920 --> 00:16:30,000 Speaker 1: and uh. I was like, oh, we gotta get him 322 00:16:30,000 --> 00:16:32,040 Speaker 1: to shoot for us. Yeah. Well, well, funny how I 323 00:16:32,080 --> 00:16:35,000 Speaker 1: met him. His father is an attorney who my husband 324 00:16:35,080 --> 00:16:38,040 Speaker 1: used to, you know, do stuff with. And I was 325 00:16:38,080 --> 00:16:41,720 Speaker 1: complaining about this these photographers that were so expensive because 326 00:16:41,720 --> 00:16:43,440 Speaker 1: we just needed to create a lot of content, and 327 00:16:43,440 --> 00:16:46,960 Speaker 1: he said, oh, you've got to meet my Bob Ritter's son. 328 00:16:47,080 --> 00:16:50,000 Speaker 1: I said, I am not hiring a lawyer's son to shoot. 329 00:16:50,320 --> 00:16:52,520 Speaker 1: He's like, just look at his work. And I looked 330 00:16:52,520 --> 00:16:54,480 Speaker 1: at his work and I'm like, he's interesting. You know. 331 00:16:54,560 --> 00:16:57,440 Speaker 1: He was definitely like a kid. Started working with him, 332 00:16:57,440 --> 00:16:59,960 Speaker 1: and I think it's been almost fifteen years since I've 333 00:17:00,000 --> 00:17:02,400 Speaker 1: been working with it. Yeah, so it is. It is 334 00:17:02,440 --> 00:17:04,760 Speaker 1: a very small world, which is why boys and girls 335 00:17:05,040 --> 00:17:07,000 Speaker 1: you have to be nice to everybody because you never 336 00:17:07,040 --> 00:17:17,520 Speaker 1: know who's going to be there to hire you. So 337 00:17:17,600 --> 00:17:20,840 Speaker 1: what advice do you have for young people that want 338 00:17:20,880 --> 00:17:25,639 Speaker 1: to break into this industry. You know, nothing's gonna come easy. 339 00:17:26,160 --> 00:17:29,960 Speaker 1: So you know, work, work, your work, your ass off 340 00:17:30,000 --> 00:17:32,000 Speaker 1: work here. You know, work as hard as you can 341 00:17:33,000 --> 00:17:36,720 Speaker 1: try and have a perspective and a vision and believe 342 00:17:36,800 --> 00:17:39,840 Speaker 1: in that, don't you know. Don't look at what somebody 343 00:17:39,840 --> 00:17:41,680 Speaker 1: else is doing and think, oh, I'm going to try 344 00:17:41,720 --> 00:17:44,240 Speaker 1: that also, but you know, have your own version of 345 00:17:44,600 --> 00:17:46,680 Speaker 1: whatever you're doing. And I think for me, the most 346 00:17:46,720 --> 00:17:50,120 Speaker 1: important thing that I have done and been lucky enough 347 00:17:50,160 --> 00:17:52,760 Speaker 1: to do over the past years is surround myself with 348 00:17:52,840 --> 00:17:55,720 Speaker 1: people I trust. And that's that's that's a huge one 349 00:17:55,840 --> 00:17:58,719 Speaker 1: for sure. You know, I and and be part of 350 00:17:58,760 --> 00:18:01,080 Speaker 1: people's networks. I think, you know, I can't tell you, 351 00:18:01,200 --> 00:18:03,680 Speaker 1: especially in the beginning of all this, when I started 352 00:18:03,680 --> 00:18:06,159 Speaker 1: to build that network of people and we were all 353 00:18:06,240 --> 00:18:09,399 Speaker 1: kind of at different stages in our careers, whether you know, 354 00:18:09,440 --> 00:18:12,040 Speaker 1: it's someone like you where I'm so lucky to be 355 00:18:12,080 --> 00:18:13,359 Speaker 1: able to call you and be like, what do you 356 00:18:13,359 --> 00:18:15,639 Speaker 1: think about this idea and and sit down and have 357 00:18:15,680 --> 00:18:17,639 Speaker 1: a heart to heart that Yes, who's on your board? 358 00:18:17,720 --> 00:18:20,199 Speaker 1: Who's on your board? I am on one of them? 359 00:18:20,200 --> 00:18:23,879 Speaker 1: Who else is on your board? Probably growing Cindy Crawford 360 00:18:24,040 --> 00:18:27,920 Speaker 1: and Bobby Brown. I'm in good company too, so yes, 361 00:18:28,119 --> 00:18:30,199 Speaker 1: and rely on you know, you've You've got a lot 362 00:18:30,240 --> 00:18:32,000 Speaker 1: of different peers in life. I can't you know when 363 00:18:32,000 --> 00:18:34,480 Speaker 1: we were when I was twenty five or twenty six, 364 00:18:34,520 --> 00:18:36,280 Speaker 1: you know, I had friends and we were all starting 365 00:18:36,320 --> 00:18:38,800 Speaker 1: different things, and you know, staying up to you know, 366 00:18:38,880 --> 00:18:40,560 Speaker 1: one in the morning being like all right, so like 367 00:18:40,600 --> 00:18:42,520 Speaker 1: I'm thinking about doing this, like can I just run it? 368 00:18:42,600 --> 00:18:46,040 Speaker 1: Buy you and getting honest feedback, you know, be honest 369 00:18:46,160 --> 00:18:48,440 Speaker 1: with yourself, be honest with the people who are around you, 370 00:18:48,960 --> 00:18:52,800 Speaker 1: and and just don't stop and what what grounds you? 371 00:18:52,840 --> 00:18:56,080 Speaker 1: Because literally, if anyone that's gonna look at your Instagram 372 00:18:56,119 --> 00:18:59,680 Speaker 1: and see you at all these parties, all these fabulous places, 373 00:19:00,160 --> 00:19:02,960 Speaker 1: they can't always be as fabulous as you make them look. 374 00:19:03,080 --> 00:19:05,560 Speaker 1: I mean, you sometimes must be like tired and crabby 375 00:19:05,560 --> 00:19:07,639 Speaker 1: and say I want out of here. I mean, I 376 00:19:07,680 --> 00:19:10,120 Speaker 1: can't tell you how exhausting it all. And it might 377 00:19:10,240 --> 00:19:13,359 Speaker 1: look fabulous and it is fabulous, to be honest, it is. 378 00:19:13,440 --> 00:19:18,240 Speaker 1: It is a lot of fun, it's exhausting, it's exhilarating. 379 00:19:18,880 --> 00:19:22,280 Speaker 1: But I mean, I'm I missed my family every single day. 380 00:19:22,359 --> 00:19:25,119 Speaker 1: My family is the most important thing in my life, 381 00:19:25,240 --> 00:19:28,399 Speaker 1: and so you know, it's it's great to travel around 382 00:19:28,400 --> 00:19:30,800 Speaker 1: all the time. But my sister has twin boys. Do 383 00:19:30,840 --> 00:19:32,280 Speaker 1: I want to go home and see them every day? 384 00:19:32,400 --> 00:19:34,960 Speaker 1: Of course? And you have a girlfriend, and I do 385 00:19:35,040 --> 00:19:38,800 Speaker 1: have a love Bobby Approved, Bobby Approved, which I could 386 00:19:38,840 --> 00:19:42,080 Speaker 1: not be happier, so special. You know, my kids love her, 387 00:19:42,200 --> 00:19:45,919 Speaker 1: you know. So yeah, and so being away is not easy, 388 00:19:46,160 --> 00:19:48,280 Speaker 1: and I do love the fact that now my role 389 00:19:48,359 --> 00:19:50,760 Speaker 1: is developed, that I get to spend time with the 390 00:19:50,800 --> 00:19:52,840 Speaker 1: team in the office. I was always the hardest part too, 391 00:19:52,920 --> 00:19:55,280 Speaker 1: is like I'd be away as the team grew, I 392 00:19:55,280 --> 00:19:58,560 Speaker 1: could be away for weeks and have to figure out Okay, 393 00:19:58,600 --> 00:20:00,960 Speaker 1: so I live my daytime work where I'm on set 394 00:20:00,960 --> 00:20:04,520 Speaker 1: shooting or I'm directing something for a client or all that, 395 00:20:04,560 --> 00:20:07,200 Speaker 1: and you get home from that and then there's all 396 00:20:07,240 --> 00:20:09,040 Speaker 1: the all the work that needs to be done after 397 00:20:09,760 --> 00:20:11,800 Speaker 1: with the team back home. And because my role was 398 00:20:11,880 --> 00:20:16,639 Speaker 1: split photographer, director, creative director, co founder, um, there's a 399 00:20:16,640 --> 00:20:18,679 Speaker 1: lot of different like business elements that need to be 400 00:20:18,720 --> 00:20:21,120 Speaker 1: dealt with, a lot of hats and then creative elements. 401 00:20:21,200 --> 00:20:23,760 Speaker 1: So what's next for Jake? What's next for Jake? So 402 00:20:23,840 --> 00:20:26,840 Speaker 1: we were just acquired by a company called Great Bowery, 403 00:20:27,040 --> 00:20:30,400 Speaker 1: who I cannot be happier about federal relationship with them 404 00:20:30,760 --> 00:20:35,440 Speaker 1: for probably six years and Great Barry. Great Barry is 405 00:20:35,480 --> 00:20:37,960 Speaker 1: a holding company that owns a lot of different companies 406 00:20:38,000 --> 00:20:43,119 Speaker 1: within um within them, from talent agencies like Streeters and 407 00:20:43,280 --> 00:20:48,719 Speaker 1: CLM to licensing like Trunk Archive. And Trunk Archive has 408 00:20:48,720 --> 00:20:51,800 Speaker 1: represented us for a long time and this was a 409 00:20:51,960 --> 00:20:55,960 Speaker 1: very perfect fit. I mean, both companies have the same 410 00:20:56,000 --> 00:20:59,359 Speaker 1: brand values, we have so many synergies, but we do 411 00:20:59,440 --> 00:21:02,640 Speaker 1: different things, but we compliment each other. So now I'm 412 00:21:02,720 --> 00:21:05,080 Speaker 1: very excited to be part of something bigger. I know, 413 00:21:05,400 --> 00:21:08,560 Speaker 1: you know, it was a scary experience and it was 414 00:21:08,720 --> 00:21:11,560 Speaker 1: a big learning experience going through an acquisition for sure. 415 00:21:11,720 --> 00:21:16,040 Speaker 1: But now over the next a little while, we are 416 00:21:16,560 --> 00:21:18,520 Speaker 1: working on a lot of different things that we just 417 00:21:18,560 --> 00:21:22,160 Speaker 1: didn't have the infrastructure to do before. And so now, 418 00:21:22,440 --> 00:21:24,840 Speaker 1: I mean you'll you'll see what's to come, but some 419 00:21:24,840 --> 00:21:27,679 Speaker 1: some pretty exciting things happening. I can't wait. So I 420 00:21:27,720 --> 00:21:30,120 Speaker 1: have a speed round for you. Speed round. Okay, what's 421 00:21:30,160 --> 00:21:35,919 Speaker 1: the last thing you bought? I bought a plant yesterday. Okay, 422 00:21:36,160 --> 00:21:39,439 Speaker 1: what's your coffee? Order? Depends either double espresso or an 423 00:21:39,480 --> 00:21:43,000 Speaker 1: almond latte. Okay, And what's the last book you read? Yes, 424 00:21:43,119 --> 00:21:45,360 Speaker 1: I don't read a book for a while, Bobby. I've 425 00:21:45,359 --> 00:21:48,520 Speaker 1: got like four or five next to my bedside piled 426 00:21:48,640 --> 00:21:51,880 Speaker 1: up Elvis Duran. I'm I'm reading right now and I'll 427 00:21:51,920 --> 00:21:54,800 Speaker 1: steal that one from it's really good, and that next 428 00:21:54,960 --> 00:21:57,560 Speaker 1: you'll read that now, that's really good. So what was 429 00:21:57,600 --> 00:22:00,159 Speaker 1: it like being at the at the Royal wedding? I 430 00:22:00,160 --> 00:22:02,480 Speaker 1: mean the Royal what it was fantastic? You know, Megan 431 00:22:02,560 --> 00:22:06,280 Speaker 1: and I were old friends, and I mean we we 432 00:22:06,359 --> 00:22:09,280 Speaker 1: met at the airport in Canada, in Canada, in Toronto. 433 00:22:09,480 --> 00:22:12,280 Speaker 1: She was filming suits in Toronto, and and we became 434 00:22:12,400 --> 00:22:16,000 Speaker 1: fast friends and uh you know, over the years in 435 00:22:16,040 --> 00:22:19,760 Speaker 1: Toronto again it was the same thing. You know. She 436 00:22:19,760 --> 00:22:23,480 Speaker 1: she was part of my my support network and and 437 00:22:23,560 --> 00:22:26,280 Speaker 1: my I keep a very small group of friends in 438 00:22:26,760 --> 00:22:30,320 Speaker 1: my life, and we hit it off. I could never 439 00:22:30,359 --> 00:22:32,159 Speaker 1: have imagined this was going to happen to her, but 440 00:22:32,240 --> 00:22:35,119 Speaker 1: could not be happier. Well, when we when we shot 441 00:22:35,240 --> 00:22:38,280 Speaker 1: Jake shot a thing in activation with me when I 442 00:22:38,320 --> 00:22:41,240 Speaker 1: was still with the brand, and you brought Megan Markle 443 00:22:41,320 --> 00:22:43,320 Speaker 1: who I didn't see the show. I didn't know her. 444 00:22:43,640 --> 00:22:46,240 Speaker 1: We instantly hit it off. She was the nicest girl, 445 00:22:46,680 --> 00:22:49,160 Speaker 1: such a nice girl. And you know, we started talking 446 00:22:49,160 --> 00:22:52,320 Speaker 1: about boyfriend and this and who you danny, because well, 447 00:22:52,359 --> 00:22:54,320 Speaker 1: I'm kind of seeing someone now, but he lives in 448 00:22:54,320 --> 00:22:57,240 Speaker 1: the UK. I mean I usually ask a lot of questions. 449 00:22:57,320 --> 00:23:00,960 Speaker 1: I didn't say who was it, you know, but you know, 450 00:23:01,200 --> 00:23:04,119 Speaker 1: but it was like, that was a great day. That 451 00:23:04,240 --> 00:23:06,600 Speaker 1: was the day that I found out too. I remember 452 00:23:06,640 --> 00:23:09,200 Speaker 1: that she told you that she was dating him that day. 453 00:23:09,280 --> 00:23:14,360 Speaker 1: That was the day and I was like, okay, okay, yeah, yeah, 454 00:23:14,480 --> 00:23:17,560 Speaker 1: I mean the wedding was it was beautiful. It's you 455 00:23:17,680 --> 00:23:21,160 Speaker 1: hung with Oprah, hung with Oprah. Yeah that was Yeah, 456 00:23:21,160 --> 00:23:24,200 Speaker 1: I'm at the Royal wedding with Oprah Winfrey. Yes, I 457 00:23:24,200 --> 00:23:26,240 Speaker 1: didn't go with Oprah, but I happened to walk in 458 00:23:26,280 --> 00:23:28,479 Speaker 1: at the same time. We both arrived early, and we 459 00:23:28,480 --> 00:23:31,600 Speaker 1: were both you know, on the same you know, you 460 00:23:31,720 --> 00:23:33,480 Speaker 1: arrived at the farm and there was the shuttles that 461 00:23:33,520 --> 00:23:35,639 Speaker 1: took you there, and we ended up walking in together. 462 00:23:35,680 --> 00:23:38,720 Speaker 1: And yeah, and that's when the paparazzi got those pictures 463 00:23:39,040 --> 00:23:41,879 Speaker 1: and we thought you guys were dating. I knew you 464 00:23:41,920 --> 00:23:43,600 Speaker 1: were not dating, but I thought that she might have 465 00:23:43,600 --> 00:23:47,320 Speaker 1: been your date, but yeah, that was way cool. Definitely. Yeah, 466 00:23:47,600 --> 00:23:50,399 Speaker 1: I am sure that morning. Yeah, I am sure. What 467 00:23:50,480 --> 00:23:52,800 Speaker 1: can I say? I love you. I love you too. 468 00:23:52,840 --> 00:23:55,200 Speaker 1: I want you happy. You are happy and that makes 469 00:23:55,200 --> 00:23:59,400 Speaker 1: me happy. Thanks Bobby, all right, talk soon. For more 470 00:23:59,440 --> 00:24:02,360 Speaker 1: podcast us from I Heart Radio, visit the I heart 471 00:24:02,440 --> 00:24:05,760 Speaker 1: Radio app, Apple podcast, or wherever you listen to your 472 00:24:05,840 --> 00:24:12,119 Speaker 1: favorite shows. H m hm