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Speaker 2: the world of college football right now, including as de

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Speaker 2: Seger just told you at the La Coliseum USC Trails

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Speaker 2: thirty one to twenty six. We'll get to that momentarily,

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Speaker 2: but first of all, back after a hiatus, we had

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Speaker 2: our lowest rated show in years with Arnie Spanier, but

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Speaker 2: we powered through last week. Jason Martin, how was your

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Speaker 2: You know, you haven't been on a family getaway for

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Speaker 2: a few months now.

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Speaker 3: How is it to get away for a few days?

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Speaker 4: It had been a year and a half. Oh wow

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Speaker 4: since we had done anything like that. In this first

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Speaker 4: time for my daughter period at two years old, taking

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Speaker 4: her to the beach as a blast. We had a

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Speaker 4: really good time and she really liked the sand. Was

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Speaker 4: a little bit afraid of the water, but you know,

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Speaker 4: making sand castles and running around making memories. It was

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Speaker 4: a good time. And the drive down, which was on Saturday,

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Speaker 4: which was last Saturday, I just listened to football all

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Speaker 4: the way down and it was crazyness happening. Of course,

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Speaker 4: the great Washington Oregon game and a lot of this,

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Speaker 4: and I knew that you guys had a lot to

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Speaker 4: chew on, and guess what, we've got a ton to

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Speaker 4: chew on. I've been flipping between five or six games

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Speaker 4: a night that have all been relatively compelling. Plus the

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Speaker 4: NLCS I've watched a really almost watched the entire game,

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Speaker 4: even though it looks like it's going the Phillies way.

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Speaker 4: But it's just been a really good day of sports.

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Speaker 4: It really has. There's been a lot of things to

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Speaker 4: kind of keep our attention, even if the results have

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Speaker 4: kind of been less shocking in most cases. There's still

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Speaker 4: a whole lot to talk about coming out of this

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Speaker 4: weekend in college football and certainly in baseball and every

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Speaker 4: thing else. And the NBA is about to start.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it has been a great day of college football.

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Speaker 3: And it's interesting. I want to ask you a question.

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Speaker 2: So you mentioned, you know, you got away with your

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Speaker 2: with your family, with your with your little daughter who's

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Speaker 2: two years old. Let me ask you a question. And

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Speaker 2: I'm not a parent, so I don't know. I'm not

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Speaker 2: sure at what age this starts to happen. But the

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Speaker 2: age when you tell your child something over and over

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Speaker 2: and over again and they don't listen, and they do

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Speaker 2: it their way and they decide that they're not gonna

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Speaker 2: listen to mom and dad. I don't know if she's

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Speaker 2: at that age yet, but I bring it up because

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Speaker 2: every time I watch USC, that is what I think

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Speaker 2: of as a child that like, we know what the

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Speaker 2: problem is with this team, Jason, You and I were

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Speaker 2: on two weeks ago. We were on two weeks ago

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Speaker 2: when they fell down seventeen to nothing to Arizona.

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Speaker 3: Two weeks before that.

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Speaker 2: Was the game that they barely survived against a mediocre

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Speaker 2: Arizona State team. Fast forward to tonight, They're down thirty

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Speaker 2: one to twenty six. Utah has the ball right around

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Speaker 2: two minutes to go. Utah has not had their starting

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Speaker 2: quarterback all year. Utah averages twenty one points per game.

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Speaker 2: They have thirty one. They are moving the ball essentially

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Speaker 2: at will in the second half, seventeen points in the

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Speaker 2: second half. In total, they have over four hundred and

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Speaker 2: thirty yards of total offense. That's over one hundred yards

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Speaker 2: more than they've been averaging through half the season this year.

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Speaker 2: We're gonna see, if you know, if Utah holds on

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Speaker 2: another you know, chinking the yard like whatever you want

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Speaker 2: a generational quarterback in Caleb Williams. He's having another good

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Speaker 2: They're six to one, they still have Oregon, they still

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Speaker 4: Jason, that's right. I mean again, like you mentioned, Cam

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Speaker 4: Rising hasn't played all year, and he basically came out

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Speaker 4: what actually happened. I tore multiple ligaments. I'm doing everything

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Speaker 4: I don't think that I let you know how severe

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Speaker 4: coaches in the country because this is not new that

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Speaker 4: Utah is competitive. But also not new is a Lincoln

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Speaker 4: Riley coached football team. I don't care where it is

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Speaker 4: be in Maine, or it can be in southern California. Whatever.

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Speaker 4: Not playing defense or not being good at it, giving

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Speaker 4: asking their quarterback to go win the Heisman every single

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Speaker 4: and more sense why Baker Mayfield and Kyler Murray through

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Speaker 4: Because they didn't, they would have lost six games. Because

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Speaker 4: the team never can field a defense with Lincoln Riley.

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Speaker 4: And the biggest indictment of this, I understand Lincoln Robbins

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Speaker 4: an offensive mind a head coach. All right, if that's

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Speaker 4: your mindset, then stop hand picking dcs because clearly that's

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Speaker 4: not a skill set that you possess. Find someone who

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Speaker 4: you trust to tell you who could potentially run a

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Speaker 4: over and over when everyone in the country can watch

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Speaker 4: this and foresee it and whenever it happens is like, oh, man,

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Speaker 4: I saw this in Oklahoma uniform three years ago. Kayleb

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Speaker 4: Williams saw this when he was in an Oklahoma uniform

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Speaker 4: a couple of years ago. This ain't new, but it

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Speaker 3: It is frustrating.

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Speaker 2: By the way, we do have a final in Tallahassee,

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Speaker 2: Florida state top five team was on the ropes early.

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Speaker 2: They pull away late against a game Duke Squad USC.

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Speaker 2: As we said, trailing thirty one twenty six Utah with

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Speaker 2: a crucial third down with about two minutes left in

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Speaker 2: this game, and it does look like, you know, Utah

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Speaker 2: They are inside of USC territory, not really in field

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Speaker 2: I agree with you, Jason, and I think you know,

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Speaker 3: Whatever, I am here.

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Speaker 2: To say, it's not a just tonight situation. I think

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Speaker 2: most people who love college football fully understand that Utah

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Speaker 2: looks like will go for it.

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Speaker 3: Now it looks like it's hard to say.

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Speaker 4: What they're gonna be raw. No, they did.

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Speaker 2: You're right, Yeah, it looks like they're it looks like

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Speaker 2: they're gonna punt. I guess I was really wrong on

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Speaker 2: I must have misseen it because they were not in

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Speaker 3: I take that back.

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Speaker 2: So USC will get the ball, and listen, I get it,

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Speaker 2: and I get that. Oh my goodness, so USC. Oh head, No,

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Speaker 2: you must be way behind. You must be way, way

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Speaker 2: way behind, because uh USC has gotten the punt. It

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Speaker 2: looks like Zacharier. I believe it's zacharyaber Branch, the star freshman,

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Speaker 3: UH and USC is now in.

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Speaker 2: You know they're they're they're basically in the red zone

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Speaker 2: about two minutes ago out because did you leave too

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Speaker 2: much time on the field. But listen, I don't think

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Speaker 2: this changes the conversation about USC because when you have

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Speaker 2: Caleb Williams in his junior year, and we could debate

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Speaker 2: he hasn't been great the last two weeks. Last week,

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Speaker 2: a lot of it was on the O line, some

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Speaker 2: of it was on him.

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Speaker 3: Whatever.

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Speaker 2: When you have a Caleb Williams type talent and you

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Speaker 2: you still got at Oregon, Washington and UCLA to end

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Speaker 2: the year. Like, it's just it's so disappointing because it

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Speaker 2: is again a situation where where like you said, every year,

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Speaker 2: it's the same exact thing, and so I don't it's weird, Jason.

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Speaker 2: I don't know what the solution is for Lincoln Riley

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Speaker 2: because at some point, like it's great and I understand

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Speaker 2: that by the way, we might be USC's good luck

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Speaker 3: Yep, they are now.

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Speaker 2: They were down thirty one to twenty six when we

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Speaker 2: got on air. They force a punt against Utah, return

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Speaker 2: don't let me ask you if they win this game,

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Speaker 2: does it change anything for you? Because to me, it's

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Speaker 2: about this season, But it is also about Lincoln Riley

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Speaker 2: every single year Oklahoma USC. You know, we got the

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Speaker 2: first NFL rumors this week. It doesn't matter because his

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Speaker 2: teams are always the same and football is a is

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Speaker 2: and they're gonna continue to fall short.

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Speaker 3: Am I crazy for saying that, Chase?

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Speaker 4: No, I mean I wouldn't say he does not care.

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Speaker 4: I would just say because I mean, that's not his

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Speaker 4: Jimbo Fisher and it's been the problem for Himan. Like

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Speaker 4: if you're a defensive coordinator and your defense is bottom

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Speaker 4: and you guys are losing, that's a big time indictment

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Speaker 4: and not tinker with it. Let them do what they

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Speaker 4: coach that you can be and run offense. We see

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Speaker 4: that successfully happen in the NFL. We see it successfully

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Speaker 4: happen in college football. But yes, win or lose, this

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Speaker 4: doesn't change a lot for me because we already knew

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Speaker 4: what we still know going into the season. That is

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Speaker 4: that Caleb Williams is an outstanding football player who always

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Speaker 4: gives you a chance and who generally is going to

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Speaker 2: While we wait for a final here, let's get to

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Speaker 7: undefeated team left in ACC play. Florida State beat Duke

436
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Speaker 7: thirty eight twenty with three touchdowns in the fourth quarter.

437
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Speaker 7: Tenth rank North Carolina was six and oh but lost

438
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Speaker 7: at home to Virginia thirty one to twenty seven on

439
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Speaker 7: the tar heels last two drives, a turnover on downs

440
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Speaker 7: in the red zone and an interception. Number two. Michigan

441
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Speaker 7: eight and oh now forty nine nothing winners at Michigan State.

442
00:22:47,480 --> 00:22:51,600
Speaker 7: Michigan Wolverine still don't play a ranked team until November eleventh,

443
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Speaker 7: when they're at Penn State. Penn State lost twenty to

444
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Speaker 7: twelve at Ohio State today. Marvin Harrison Junior eleven receptions,

445
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Speaker 7: one hundred and sixty two yard cards in a late

446
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Speaker 7: td Number six Oklahoma edged Central Florida thirty one twenty

447
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Speaker 7: nine as UCF missed a two point run with just

448
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Speaker 7: over a minute left, and on Fox TV Number eight

449
00:23:10,640 --> 00:23:13,359
Speaker 7: Texas blew a twenty one nothing first half lead. It

450
00:23:13,400 --> 00:23:16,240
Speaker 7: was tied in the third twenty one. All Texas wins

451
00:23:16,280 --> 00:23:18,960
Speaker 7: thirty one to twenty four at Houston as the Cougars

452
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Speaker 7: were stopped on a late fourth and one victories for

453
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Speaker 7: Oregon and Ole miss Alabama came back to beat Tennessee

454
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Speaker 7: thirty four to twenty. LSU and Missouri each with easy victories.

455
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Speaker 7: Number twenty two Air Force won at Navy seventeen to six.

456
00:23:33,080 --> 00:23:35,320
Speaker 7: It was seventeen to nothing until the final minute of

457
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Speaker 7: the game. If you like offense, not your game. Same

458
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Speaker 7: as any Iowa game, such as the nationally televised for

459
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Speaker 7: some reason, Minnesota at Iowa game today. It was the

460
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Speaker 7: Gophers twelve ten the final, going four for five on

461
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Speaker 7: field goals. Tulane blew a third quarter lead of twenty

462
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Speaker 7: eight to seven, but still edged North Texas with a

463
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Speaker 7: late touchdown thirty five to twenty eight. Update from the

464
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Speaker 7: ACC Miami's field goal is good. They're going to a

465
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Speaker 7: second overtime Clemson Tide twenty twenty at Miami. And there's

466
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Speaker 7: a game on FS two right now in the Mountain West,

467
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Speaker 7: believe it or not. Early fourth quarter. It's six nothing

468
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Speaker 7: Nevada at Sandy High State. Yeah, there's been a lot

469
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Speaker 7: of San Diego State games like that over the years.

470
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Speaker 7: I mean a lot of those over the years. A

471
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Speaker 7: reminder that the first college football playoff rankings come out

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Speaker 7: Halloween Night. That means a week from Tuesday, and then

473
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Speaker 7: every Tuesday night through November. Selection Day for college football

474
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Speaker 7: is the first Sunday of December in the playoffs. In baseball, tonight,

475
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Speaker 7: Philadelphia went up three games to two in the NLCS

476
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Speaker 7: with a six to one victory at Arizona. Game six

477
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Speaker 7: will be in Philadelphia on Monday. ALCS Game six will

478
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Speaker 7: be Sunday night on FS one. We had college football

479
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Speaker 7: Texas at Houston today. We're gonna have baseball Texas at

480
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Speaker 7: Houston tomorrow night, eight pm Eastern time. Houston reliever Brian

481
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Speaker 7: abray You was suspended two games for hitting a batter

482
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Speaker 7: last night. He had the option to appeal. Has in

483
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Speaker 7: the NHL wins for Columbus in overtime Dallas in overtime

484
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Speaker 7: Nashville five to one over San Jose.

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Speaker 2: Back to you, Thank you very much, Steve di Sega,

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Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio, Fox Sports Saturday, Aaron Torris, Jason Martin

487
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Speaker 2: broadcasting live from THEE Tireck dot Com Studios. Jayson, we'll

488
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Speaker 2: get back to the Penn State Michigan game momentarily, but

489
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Speaker 2: I would be remiss that you know, we are coming

490
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Speaker 2: in off of what I think is a very important

491
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Speaker 2: result here. Utah beats USC thirty four to thirty two.

492
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Speaker 2: Is disager. Just told you a walk off field goal

493
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Speaker 2: at the LA Coliseum. USC drops its second straight game.

494
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Speaker 2: A Utah offense that could not move the ball all

495
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Speaker 2: season without Cam Rising has close to five hundred yards

496
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Speaker 2: of total offense. You know, I gotta be honest, This

497
00:25:43,280 --> 00:25:45,520
Speaker 2: to me is so big because it opens up so

498
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Speaker 2: many different questions, especially in a week where you know,

499
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Speaker 2: first of all, Caleb Williams dad's been saying all sorts

500
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Speaker 2: of stuff since the preseason. Oh, maybe he'll come back

501
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Speaker 2: if he doesn't like where his draft position is. I

502
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Speaker 2: guess a story from the summer started trending again about

503
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Speaker 2: I don't know something about asking for a stake in ownership,

504
00:26:03,080 --> 00:26:04,919
Speaker 2: which is just ridiculous. We don't need to address that.

505
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Speaker 2: But also, you know, our colleague Dan Patrick kind of

506
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Speaker 2: uh you know, I I don't know if you would

507
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Speaker 2: call it a report, but Dan just doesn't put stuff

508
00:26:12,560 --> 00:26:15,679
Speaker 2: out there unless unless uh, you know, unless he unless

509
00:26:15,680 --> 00:26:18,400
Speaker 2: he has good sourcing on it. You know that that

510
00:26:18,520 --> 00:26:22,399
Speaker 2: maybe that maybe Lincoln Riley is shopping himself a little

511
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Speaker 2: bit for some NFL opportunities. Anyway, I bring it all

512
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Speaker 2: up to say, it just feels like there's something not

513
00:26:28,760 --> 00:26:31,800
Speaker 2: quite right at USC. And I think as as on

514
00:26:31,960 --> 00:26:34,840
Speaker 2: the brink as they've been, this is the week where

515
00:26:34,840 --> 00:26:37,720
Speaker 2: it gets interesting because the playoff is essentially off the table.

516
00:26:38,119 --> 00:26:41,760
Speaker 2: You're now looking at probably four losses. They maybe they'll

517
00:26:41,800 --> 00:26:43,960
Speaker 2: be a slight favorite at home against Washington, but I

518
00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:46,720
Speaker 2: don't believe they will be. There's certainly not gonna be

519
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Speaker 2: a favorite at Oregon.

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Speaker 6: Uh.

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Speaker 2: You're looking at four losses, your coaches being linked to

522
00:26:51,760 --> 00:26:54,960
Speaker 2: NFL jobs, You just lost for a second straight game.

523
00:26:55,280 --> 00:26:58,120
Speaker 2: Your Heisman Trophy winner ain't winning a second straight Heisman.

524
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Speaker 3: Just what what do you? What do you of what

525
00:27:00,640 --> 00:27:03,399
Speaker 3: is going on at USC? Because it's just there's just

526
00:27:03,480 --> 00:27:05,000
Speaker 3: awful vibes coming out right now.

527
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Speaker 4: I mean, it just feels like it's done. It feels

528
00:27:07,000 --> 00:27:11,480
Speaker 4: like you use the term waste earlier, and that seems apropos.

529
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Speaker 4: The thing I'm most interested to see is how dialed

530
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Speaker 4: in Caleb Williams is from now on for the rest

531
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Speaker 4: of this year, because if it's me and I'm Caleb Williams,

532
00:27:21,119 --> 00:27:23,200
Speaker 4: I'm starting to check out a little bit. Like I

533
00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:26,000
Speaker 4: saw him on the sidelines there after the loss, and

534
00:27:26,080 --> 00:27:28,760
Speaker 4: he just looked upset, like he just looked beat, like

535
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Speaker 4: he was just, man, really, we lost this game. We

536
00:27:31,359 --> 00:27:33,600
Speaker 4: found a way to lose this game. And in his head,

537
00:27:33,640 --> 00:27:36,320
Speaker 4: he's like, I mean, I gave us the lead and

538
00:27:36,359 --> 00:27:39,000
Speaker 4: we couldn't hold them. We couldn't hold them. Even though

539
00:27:39,000 --> 00:27:41,520
Speaker 4: Cam Rising's not in there, we couldn't hold them. I

540
00:27:41,680 --> 00:27:44,159
Speaker 4: went twenty four to thirty four tonight for two fifty

541
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Speaker 4: six and rushed a touchdown in didn't throw one in

542
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Speaker 4: the game, which is kind of stunning. They did everything

543
00:27:48,840 --> 00:27:54,399
Speaker 4: on the ground. But what is Cayle Williams playing for now? Like,

544
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Speaker 4: what's the purpose If he's going to be the number

545
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Speaker 4: one pick and we've said that he would have been

546
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Speaker 4: the number one one pick had he been eligible last year.

547
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Speaker 4: If you're not going to have a chance to play

548
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Speaker 4: in the college football Playoff and you've already played in

549
00:28:09,720 --> 00:28:13,399
Speaker 4: a ballgame before, what are you playing for. You're not

550
00:28:13,400 --> 00:28:15,800
Speaker 4: gonna win the Heisman either, That's the other point. So

551
00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:19,960
Speaker 4: there's no individual accolade to go win. There is no

552
00:28:20,520 --> 00:28:23,840
Speaker 4: team accolade to go win. The only thing that I

553
00:28:23,880 --> 00:28:26,040
Speaker 4: start to think about is my health and my future,

554
00:28:26,280 --> 00:28:29,040
Speaker 4: because those are the things that are going to matter

555
00:28:29,160 --> 00:28:33,000
Speaker 4: long term. This whole thing just hadn't worked out exactly

556
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Speaker 4: as I hope that it was going to. If I'm

557
00:28:35,040 --> 00:28:38,200
Speaker 4: Caleb Williams gave it all he had, but if he

558
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Speaker 4: were to check out mentally or even just kind of

559
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Speaker 4: shut it down or not be around in December, it

560
00:28:45,400 --> 00:28:47,400
Speaker 4: might not be the best look. But I would have

561
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Speaker 4: a hard time finding fault in it, because there is

562
00:28:50,680 --> 00:28:54,720
Speaker 4: nothing to be gained at this point for continuing to

563
00:28:54,760 --> 00:28:57,880
Speaker 4: suit up for a USC team that is going nowhere,

564
00:28:58,240 --> 00:29:02,120
Speaker 4: when my future is through the roof, and my money,

565
00:29:02,280 --> 00:29:04,040
Speaker 4: a lot of it is yet to be made. I

566
00:29:04,040 --> 00:29:06,160
Speaker 4: know I'm doing pretty well right now at USC, but

567
00:29:06,640 --> 00:29:10,200
Speaker 4: my career, my future, legacy, all of that exists on

568
00:29:10,280 --> 00:29:13,960
Speaker 4: the next level where I'm already guaranteed a top spot.

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Speaker 2: I will tell you it's interesting that you say that,

570
00:29:15,960 --> 00:29:17,200
Speaker 2: because I think a lot of people are kind of

571
00:29:17,240 --> 00:29:21,280
Speaker 2: speculating the same thing. I love college sports. I mean,

572
00:29:21,280 --> 00:29:22,840
Speaker 2: it goes without saying we get to do this show.

573
00:29:22,880 --> 00:29:25,200
Speaker 2: I love college hoops whatever. I remember the first kind

574
00:29:25,200 --> 00:29:27,840
Speaker 2: of shut it down with conversation with Zion Williamson years ago.

575
00:29:27,920 --> 00:29:31,120
Speaker 2: It drove me crazy, and in general, it drives me crazy.

576
00:29:31,600 --> 00:29:33,840
Speaker 2: I think this is the first time that I can

577
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Speaker 2: sit there and say, I you know, and by the way,

578
00:29:37,440 --> 00:29:39,080
Speaker 2: I don't blame anybody that doesn't want to play in

579
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Speaker 2: a bowl game if you're not playing for a championship whatever.

580
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Speaker 2: This is the first time I can ever sit there

581
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Speaker 2: and say, like, if he just came out tomorrow and said,

582
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Speaker 2: I'm I'm that's it. Thank you Coach Riley, thank you

583
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Speaker 2: for the opportunity, Thank you Trojan Nation.

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Speaker 3: I'm out.

585
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Speaker 2: It's the first time I think I would ever be like, Okay,

586
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Speaker 2: I get it. The offensive line isn't good enough. He's

587
00:29:56,760 --> 00:29:59,320
Speaker 2: getting killed back there last three or four games. You know,

588
00:29:59,440 --> 00:30:02,640
Speaker 2: he's I know, the coming into tonight, he had been

589
00:30:02,680 --> 00:30:05,560
Speaker 2: sacked eleven times in the last two games, the defense

590
00:30:05,760 --> 00:30:07,640
Speaker 2: continually lets him down.

591
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Speaker 3: Again.

592
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Speaker 2: I cannot emphasize this enough. Utah was averaging three hundred

593
00:30:11,560 --> 00:30:14,040
Speaker 2: and twenty one yards of total offense coming into today,

594
00:30:14,320 --> 00:30:17,240
Speaker 2: they had four hundred and eighty three thirty four points,

595
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Speaker 2: and it certainly didn't help. By the way that by

596
00:30:21,000 --> 00:30:23,280
Speaker 2: the way they had they averaged five yards per carry

597
00:30:23,520 --> 00:30:26,680
Speaker 2: two hundred and forty eight yards rushing. This is essentially

598
00:30:26,720 --> 00:30:29,240
Speaker 2: a second or third string quarterback depending on how you

599
00:30:29,280 --> 00:30:32,280
Speaker 2: look at it, that's playing for Utah right now. It

600
00:30:32,400 --> 00:30:35,520
Speaker 2: is just such a disappointment. And you know, listen, I

601
00:30:35,560 --> 00:30:38,080
Speaker 2: don't think Caleb Williams is one hundred percent not to blame.

602
00:30:38,120 --> 00:30:39,720
Speaker 2: He hasn't been great the last few weeks, but the

603
00:30:39,760 --> 00:30:42,160
Speaker 2: old line hasn't helped him. And again he put them

604
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Speaker 2: in position to win with under two.

605
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Speaker 3: Minutes to go.

606
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Speaker 2: You know, all I'll say is I don't think I've

607
00:30:48,520 --> 00:30:52,360
Speaker 2: ever and I'm not advocating for him to shut it down,

608
00:30:52,480 --> 00:30:55,120
Speaker 2: but I would not blame him. Let me ask you this, Jason,

609
00:30:55,160 --> 00:30:57,960
Speaker 2: really quick, and and you and I were talking about

610
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Speaker 2: this before the show. There was some rumor, like I said,

611
00:31:01,800 --> 00:31:04,520
Speaker 2: Dan Patrick said this week that he has heard that

612
00:31:04,560 --> 00:31:07,840
Speaker 2: Lincoln Riley is essentially trying to shop himself as a

613
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Speaker 2: package deal with Caleb Williams. I'm gonna say something that

614
00:31:10,960 --> 00:31:13,520
Speaker 2: might sound insane. Tell me if it tell me if

615
00:31:13,520 --> 00:31:16,880
Speaker 2: you think it is or not. I don't know if

616
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Speaker 2: I'm an NFL team if I want Lincoln Riley, because one,

617
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Speaker 2: as you said a minute ago, KAYLEB. Williams is a

618
00:31:22,240 --> 00:31:24,800
Speaker 2: generational talent. Like there are first round quarterbacks all the

619
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Speaker 2: time that you kind of sit there and say, Okay,

620
00:31:26,640 --> 00:31:28,160
Speaker 2: this has to happen. That has to happen, you know,

621
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Speaker 2: I mean, you go, Bryce Young Small, Zach Wilson's inexperienced,

622
00:31:31,680 --> 00:31:34,560
Speaker 2: Trey Cherry Lance is in experience, like Caleb Williams checks

623
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Speaker 2: all the boxes. It's not as though Lincoln Riley is

624
00:31:37,440 --> 00:31:39,520
Speaker 2: the only coach that can get the best out of

625
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Speaker 2: Caleb Williams. And I would argue he's getting the best out

626
00:31:41,320 --> 00:31:43,640
Speaker 2: of Kaleba Willams right now. So you add that in

627
00:31:43,720 --> 00:31:45,800
Speaker 2: with the fact that we're now seven eight nine years

628
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Speaker 2: into him being a head coach. He has never fielded

629
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Speaker 2: a good defense. He's hand picked his last two defensive coordinator.

630
00:31:51,800 --> 00:31:54,040
Speaker 2: So it's not as though, like, well, you know, I mean,

631
00:31:54,080 --> 00:31:56,960
Speaker 2: he got stuck with this guy. No, this is his guy.

632
00:31:57,120 --> 00:31:59,800
Speaker 2: These are his guys, the guys that he wants. If

633
00:31:59,800 --> 00:32:02,400
Speaker 2: I'm whoever it is the Chicago Bears fill in the blank,

634
00:32:02,440 --> 00:32:04,640
Speaker 2: the team that has the chance to get Caleb Williams

635
00:32:05,120 --> 00:32:07,960
Speaker 2: and Lincoln Riley as a package deal, I'd be happy

636
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Speaker 2: to take Caleb Williams. I don't think I would want.

637
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Speaker 3: Lincoln Riley, as crazy as that sound.

638
00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:15,719
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's not a ridiculous take. I think it all

639
00:32:15,720 --> 00:32:19,840
Speaker 4: would depend upon how much control Lincoln Riley wanted. If

640
00:32:19,840 --> 00:32:23,560
Speaker 4: I'm an NFL team and I'm considering Lincoln Riley, then

641
00:32:23,720 --> 00:32:26,320
Speaker 4: I need him to know that he's probably not going

642
00:32:26,360 --> 00:32:28,320
Speaker 4: to be able to pick all the groceries, as Bill

643
00:32:28,360 --> 00:32:31,520
Speaker 4: Parcells used to famously say, he's not gonna be able

644
00:32:31,520 --> 00:32:33,520
Speaker 4: to pick the DC potentially, or at the very least,

645
00:32:33,560 --> 00:32:35,640
Speaker 4: I'm gonna have a rite of refusal there, because he's

646
00:32:35,680 --> 00:32:37,920
Speaker 4: proven to not know what he's doing when it comes

647
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Speaker 4: to that. It's not like he's intentionally hiring bad dcs.

648
00:32:41,280 --> 00:32:43,760
Speaker 4: It's just not a strength. But so you've got to

649
00:32:43,760 --> 00:32:47,600
Speaker 4: give him a Jim Schwartz. You've got to give him

650
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Speaker 4: a Vic Fangio. You have to find him somebody like

651
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Speaker 4: that who has tenure on that side of the football

652
00:32:53,960 --> 00:32:56,840
Speaker 4: and basically he can just control the offense. It's worked

653
00:32:56,840 --> 00:32:59,480
Speaker 4: for Sean McVay worked with Wade Phillips and also worked

654
00:32:59,480 --> 00:33:02,280
Speaker 4: with Brandon Think about this, Stay was probably out of

655
00:33:02,280 --> 00:33:04,520
Speaker 4: a job next year. Maybe you bring him in DC

656
00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:07,840
Speaker 4: and then you can have the Lincoln Riley and Brandon

657
00:33:07,880 --> 00:33:10,160
Speaker 4: Stay show, two guys that weren't able to win in

658
00:33:10,240 --> 00:33:13,120
Speaker 4: Los Angeles at the same place at the same time.

659
00:33:13,600 --> 00:33:16,680
Speaker 4: But that's what it is like, we're not listening to

660
00:33:16,760 --> 00:33:18,400
Speaker 4: you as to who you're going to bring in as

661
00:33:18,640 --> 00:33:22,320
Speaker 4: as your DC. I also think it's odd if he's

662
00:33:22,360 --> 00:33:25,320
Speaker 4: actually shopping himself as a package deal with Caleb. What

663
00:33:25,360 --> 00:33:28,240
Speaker 4: does that say about his confidence in what he can

664
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Speaker 4: do after Caleb Williams leave. That's my thing is are

665
00:33:32,840 --> 00:33:36,560
Speaker 4: you trying to hitch your wagon to Caleb because you're

666
00:33:36,760 --> 00:33:40,160
Speaker 4: not really looking forward to the post Caleb world that

667
00:33:40,200 --> 00:33:43,160
Speaker 4: you're going to be living in in college football going forward.

668
00:33:43,440 --> 00:33:47,160
Speaker 4: That seems odd considering who you've developed and who you've

669
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Speaker 4: sent to the NFL. Whether it's Hurts, whether it's obviously

670
00:33:50,720 --> 00:33:53,720
Speaker 4: Mayfield and Kyler Murray and now Caleb Williams You've coached

671
00:33:53,720 --> 00:33:56,360
Speaker 4: a lot of great quarterbacks and you've done wonderful things

672
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Speaker 4: with them. Why now, Like, if that's true, why are

673
00:34:00,440 --> 00:34:03,160
Speaker 4: you selling yourself on a package deals? And what are

674
00:34:03,200 --> 00:34:05,520
Speaker 4: you telling them? It's like nobody understands it. You're not

675
00:34:05,600 --> 00:34:08,920
Speaker 4: the Caleb Williams whisperer. There are plenty of people, as

676
00:34:08,960 --> 00:34:11,520
Speaker 4: you said, who I feel like Brian Dabele could do

677
00:34:11,520 --> 00:34:14,440
Speaker 4: a pretty good job with Kayleb Williams, that's Ava, That's

678
00:34:14,640 --> 00:34:17,080
Speaker 4: I think Arthur Smith could do a great job. There

679
00:34:17,120 --> 00:34:19,680
Speaker 4: are a number of guys, And you made the point,

680
00:34:19,680 --> 00:34:22,240
Speaker 4: and you're exactly right. You don't have to have Lincoln

681
00:34:22,320 --> 00:34:24,640
Speaker 4: Riley to get the best out of Caleb Williams. But

682
00:34:25,320 --> 00:34:27,400
Speaker 4: do you have to have Caleb Williams to get the

683
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Speaker 4: best out of Lincoln Riley?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? Well no, it's an interesting point.

685
00:34:31,400 --> 00:34:34,719
Speaker 2: And like I said, you know, I get the scenario

686
00:34:34,760 --> 00:34:36,640
Speaker 2: that every quarterback he's ever had has been a Heisman

687
00:34:36,680 --> 00:34:40,279
Speaker 2: Trophy caliber player. I also don't think that, based on

688
00:34:40,320 --> 00:34:42,320
Speaker 2: the defenses that I've seen, that I'm in a rush

689
00:34:42,320 --> 00:34:45,000
Speaker 2: to bring him into my organization if I'm an NFL team.

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00:34:45,160 --> 00:34:47,120
Speaker 2: By the way, keeping you updated on one game that

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Speaker 2: the Sager just told you about Clemson in Miami. Now

692
00:34:49,920 --> 00:34:54,920
Speaker 2: in double overtime, Clemson trailing twenty eight to twenty on

693
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Speaker 2: the goal line, needing to score. They have one play left.

694
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Speaker 2: We are two plays left. Excuse me, third down. We

695
00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:03,600
Speaker 2: will keep you updated on that again. Double overtime, Clemson

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Speaker 2: trails by eight. Fox Sports Radio ertors Jason Martin. When

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Speaker 2: we come back, we will wrap our one. A lot

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00:35:09,520 --> 00:35:12,520
Speaker 2: of college football still to get to. This is Fox

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Speaker 2: Sports Radio.

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Speaker 3: Welcome back, everybody.

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Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio Ertorris Jason Martin, broadcasting live from the

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Speaker 2: Miami beats Clemson in double overtime, twenty eight to twenty. Jason, Clemson,

708
00:35:43,880 --> 00:35:47,480
Speaker 2: how about this? With this loss, they fall to four

709
00:35:47,640 --> 00:35:53,520
Speaker 2: and three and they are two and three in the

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00:35:53,600 --> 00:35:58,720
Speaker 2: ACC currently tied for Let's do some quick math here one, two, three,

711
00:35:59,040 --> 00:36:04,239
Speaker 2: four five, I've tied for eighth in the ACC right now,

712
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Speaker 2: just behind Boston College at Georgia Tech. You know, I

713
00:36:08,520 --> 00:36:11,960
Speaker 2: wasn't planning talking Clemson to night, But what do you

714
00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:12,840
Speaker 2: make of this program?

715
00:36:12,880 --> 00:36:13,000
Speaker 4: Man?

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00:36:13,040 --> 00:36:15,560
Speaker 2: I mean, you talk about a program that is spinning

717
00:36:15,600 --> 00:36:18,799
Speaker 2: its wheels, going in the wrong direction. Back to back

718
00:36:18,840 --> 00:36:20,960
Speaker 2: seasons of which they didn't make a playoff. This year

719
00:36:21,000 --> 00:36:22,040
Speaker 2: was supposed to be different.

720
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Speaker 3: It isn't.

721
00:36:23,560 --> 00:36:25,279
Speaker 2: And by the way, they still got some tough games

722
00:36:25,360 --> 00:36:28,560
Speaker 2: left on the schedule, Notre Dame in two weeks, North

723
00:36:28,560 --> 00:36:29,880
Speaker 2: Carolina after that.

724
00:36:31,719 --> 00:36:34,080
Speaker 3: I mean, I don't know what to say. What do

725
00:36:34,080 --> 00:36:34,319
Speaker 3: you make?

726
00:36:34,360 --> 00:36:38,359
Speaker 4: It feels like it's kind of over. It feels like

727
00:36:38,480 --> 00:36:42,640
Speaker 4: this era and the era of good feelings that we

728
00:36:42,719 --> 00:36:45,760
Speaker 4: called it there for a little while, the taj Boyd

729
00:36:45,840 --> 00:36:50,239
Speaker 4: into Deshaun Watson into Trevor Lawrence and obviously all the

730
00:36:50,320 --> 00:36:54,160
Speaker 4: great defensive players that got drafted and the receivers, and

731
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Speaker 4: I mean, they've had a plethora of talent and devas

732
00:36:57,800 --> 00:37:00,320
Speaker 4: when he's done a really nice job. And I'm like,

733
00:37:00,320 --> 00:37:02,239
Speaker 4: I'm speaking of the past tense. I understand they're not

734
00:37:02,280 --> 00:37:05,360
Speaker 4: a terrible football team, but in terms of them being

735
00:37:06,239 --> 00:37:09,759
Speaker 4: one of those kind of teams, like there was a

736
00:37:09,880 --> 00:37:12,480
Speaker 4: moment there whereas Okay, well, this could be in Ohio State,

737
00:37:12,520 --> 00:37:14,240
Speaker 4: this could be in Oklahoma, this could be a teams

738
00:37:14,239 --> 00:37:15,839
Speaker 4: can be around for a very long time. It doesn't

739
00:37:15,840 --> 00:37:17,960
Speaker 4: feel that way anymore. It feels like the rest of

740
00:37:18,000 --> 00:37:20,680
Speaker 4: their own conference has caught them a little bit. They

741
00:37:20,719 --> 00:37:24,719
Speaker 4: never get just dominated for the most part. But it's

742
00:37:24,920 --> 00:37:27,600
Speaker 4: just not It doesn't feel the same, it doesn't look

743
00:37:27,640 --> 00:37:30,000
Speaker 4: the same. It doesn't matter. Remember DJ was going to

744
00:37:30,040 --> 00:37:31,680
Speaker 4: be the guy. It didn't work out. He's done a

745
00:37:31,719 --> 00:37:34,200
Speaker 4: lot better since he got out of there. Quite frankly,

746
00:37:34,320 --> 00:37:37,640
Speaker 4: k Clubnick supposed to be the guy, Well hadn't really

747
00:37:37,719 --> 00:37:40,800
Speaker 4: happened yet. And it's not getting easier, it's getting tougher.

748
00:37:40,840 --> 00:37:44,279
Speaker 4: And of course Dabo's stubbornness as it relates to the

749
00:37:44,320 --> 00:37:48,120
Speaker 4: evolution of college football and how teams are put together now,

750
00:37:48,800 --> 00:37:53,080
Speaker 4: is only going to make it faster by it, I mean,

751
00:37:53,120 --> 00:37:56,359
Speaker 4: the decline, It just seems like at this point they're

752
00:37:58,520 --> 00:38:00,840
Speaker 4: they're just kind of on the downs. They feel like

753
00:38:00,880 --> 00:38:04,759
Speaker 4: a second tier program. They feel like now they need

754
00:38:04,800 --> 00:38:07,239
Speaker 4: to be pretty happy being in the top fifteen, top

755
00:38:07,280 --> 00:38:11,160
Speaker 4: twenty kind of program. We need to stop including them

756
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Speaker 4: in top fives until they prove otherwise.

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00:38:14,040 --> 00:38:15,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that's the That last part is the

758
00:38:15,880 --> 00:38:19,400
Speaker 2: important part, right is the last two years they were

759
00:38:19,480 --> 00:38:22,560
Speaker 2: essentially given Like like so two years ago they lose

760
00:38:22,560 --> 00:38:24,480
Speaker 2: Trevor Lawrence and it's like, well, you know, yeah, but

761
00:38:24,480 --> 00:38:25,080
Speaker 2: it's Clemson.

762
00:38:25,120 --> 00:38:27,319
Speaker 3: I mean, who's gonna beat them? And I think that was.

763
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Speaker 2: The year they went ten and three, you know, they

764
00:38:30,640 --> 00:38:33,680
Speaker 2: they whatever. And then last year it was well, you know,

765
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Speaker 2: I don't know about DJ, but and they ended up

766
00:38:36,440 --> 00:38:38,160
Speaker 2: you know, they ended up winning ten games, winning the

767
00:38:38,200 --> 00:38:41,319
Speaker 2: ACC but you know, lost a couple big ones late.

768
00:38:42,680 --> 00:38:44,440
Speaker 2: You know this, they're four and three right now. I

769
00:38:44,480 --> 00:38:47,080
Speaker 2: mean the truth is that they have just lost that

770
00:38:47,160 --> 00:38:48,600
Speaker 2: benefit of the doubt. And I think the other thing

771
00:38:48,640 --> 00:38:51,520
Speaker 2: that's worth noting, there's just no doubt that at least

772
00:38:51,520 --> 00:38:54,280
Speaker 2: a few programs in that own in their own league

773
00:38:54,360 --> 00:38:56,960
Speaker 2: are on the rise. I mean, Florida State has arrived.

774
00:38:58,400 --> 00:39:01,760
Speaker 2: Miami Okay, well you could go either way, BUTI Miami

775
00:39:01,760 --> 00:39:04,080
Speaker 2: beat him tonight, and they're not gonna get worse under

776
00:39:04,080 --> 00:39:08,360
Speaker 2: Mario Cristobal. North Carolina will see what Drake may listen,

777
00:39:08,400 --> 00:39:11,120
Speaker 2: I'll say this, it's gonna sound like like I'm making

778
00:39:11,160 --> 00:39:13,280
Speaker 2: stuff up, Duke.

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00:39:13,440 --> 00:39:15,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, they're legit, That's what I'm saying, legit as.

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Speaker 2: Long as they keep Mike Elko. I mean, why am

781
00:39:17,840 --> 00:39:20,080
Speaker 2: I to believe that that they're gonna take a major

782
00:39:20,120 --> 00:39:22,120
Speaker 2: step back. I mean, they played Florida State tough for

783
00:39:22,160 --> 00:39:24,920
Speaker 2: three and a half quarters today. Riley Leonard was banged up.

784
00:39:25,000 --> 00:39:29,600
Speaker 2: So yeah, I just I can't believe how bad it's

785
00:39:29,600 --> 00:39:30,280
Speaker 2: gotten how quickly.

786
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Speaker 4: Jason, Yeah, I mean, it did look like it wasn't

787
00:39:32,880 --> 00:39:36,239
Speaker 4: a conference it was Clemson, and now it's a conference

788
00:39:36,280 --> 00:39:39,560
Speaker 4: where Clemson is no longer even really a big dog

789
00:39:39,640 --> 00:39:42,080
Speaker 4: at this point, like they they feel important because of

790
00:39:42,080 --> 00:39:44,480
Speaker 4: who they were, not who they are. They remind me

791
00:39:44,600 --> 00:39:47,640
Speaker 4: right now of the Pittsburgh Steelers. They just reminded me.

792
00:39:47,840 --> 00:39:50,520
Speaker 4: They remind me a team that is living off of

793
00:39:50,640 --> 00:39:55,080
Speaker 4: a legacy that no longer exists. Whatever that like where

794
00:39:55,080 --> 00:39:58,399
Speaker 4: the Boogeyman kind of feeling it's gone, it's over, It's

795
00:39:58,520 --> 00:39:59,560
Speaker 4: just not there anymore.

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Speaker 2: I'll tell you in my last thought, you know who

797
00:40:02,360 --> 00:40:06,279
Speaker 2: they are. They're everything that we said Alabama is but

798
00:40:06,440 --> 00:40:10,200
Speaker 2: actually isn't. Yeah, in other words, like end of a dynasty. No,

799
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Speaker 2: Alabama is still a rolling They took care of Tennessee

800
00:40:12,680 --> 00:40:16,200
Speaker 2: today leading the SEC West. Clemson is actually the dynasty

801
00:40:16,239 --> 00:40:17,960
Speaker 2: that's dead, if you want to call them a dynasty.

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Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio eron tors Jasonmartrow, when we come back,

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Speaker 2: to quote to quote the show Jersey Sharp, we got

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Speaker 2: ourselves a situation in Seattle, Washington right now, Arizona State

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00:41:11,560 --> 00:41:15,120
Speaker 2: up seven nothing on the Washington Huskies, coming off that

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Speaker 2: emotional win last week against against Oregon. About three minutes

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Speaker 2: left in the first half, Washington does have the ball.

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Speaker 3: We will keep you.

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Speaker 2: Post todare For people who did miss our one, we

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00:41:28,280 --> 00:41:32,759
Speaker 2: talked a lot about USC utah USC falling at.

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Speaker 3: Home thirty four to thirty.

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Speaker 2: Two, What does that mean for the future of USC football?

827
00:41:39,880 --> 00:41:42,160
Speaker 2: For Lenkoln Riley, for Caleb Williams. We discussed that all.

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Speaker 2: If you missed it, you go back and download the

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Speaker 2: podcast after the show and we will probably revisit in

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Speaker 2: hour three. Jason, you want to switch gear to the

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Speaker 2: NFL though last week you were out. But one thing

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Speaker 2: that I did I did talk a lot with Arnie

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00:41:56,239 --> 00:41:59,600
Speaker 2: about last week. Arnie is obviously based in Vermont, you know,

834
00:41:59,680 --> 00:42:03,960
Speaker 2: for years did daily radio in the in the New

835
00:42:04,000 --> 00:42:08,719
Speaker 2: England market, and we talked about the present and future

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00:42:08,920 --> 00:42:11,960
Speaker 2: of the New England Patriots and the Patriots. I don't

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00:42:11,960 --> 00:42:15,120
Speaker 2: think anybody you don't need me to tell you. Not

838
00:42:15,560 --> 00:42:17,879
Speaker 2: going very well for the Patriots right now. Frankly haven't

839
00:42:17,880 --> 00:42:20,480
Speaker 2: gone very well the last couple of years, really since

840
00:42:20,520 --> 00:42:23,279
Speaker 2: Tom Brady left, but certainly since Josh McDaniels left as

841
00:42:23,280 --> 00:42:26,840
Speaker 2: the offensive coordinator. They lose last week in Vegas twenty

842
00:42:26,920 --> 00:42:29,359
Speaker 2: one to seventeen is the final score. They are now

843
00:42:29,560 --> 00:42:33,680
Speaker 2: one and five why I bring it up, It's because

844
00:42:33,680 --> 00:42:37,800
Speaker 2: it has created all sorts of conversation about the future

845
00:42:38,000 --> 00:42:40,440
Speaker 2: of just this organization.

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Speaker 3: Where is it going?

847
00:42:41,440 --> 00:42:43,879
Speaker 2: This that the other thing We're gonna get to something

848
00:42:43,880 --> 00:42:47,600
Speaker 2: Albert Breer said momentarily, Jason, but really quickly, what do

849
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Speaker 2: you make of the state of the New England Patriots

850
00:42:50,840 --> 00:42:55,480
Speaker 2: right now today, this second, about midnight Eastern on October

851
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Speaker 2: twenty second, twenty twenty three.

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00:42:57,600 --> 00:43:03,600
Speaker 4: The state of the New England Patriots. It ain't good.

853
00:43:06,040 --> 00:43:08,120
Speaker 4: We knew going into the season it wasn't going to be.

854
00:43:08,280 --> 00:43:10,880
Speaker 4: We've talked about that's the one team in that division

855
00:43:11,120 --> 00:43:12,960
Speaker 4: that none of us are going to pick. And it's

856
00:43:13,000 --> 00:43:16,800
Speaker 4: crazy because we all respect Bill Belichick, but they're offensive

857
00:43:16,800 --> 00:43:22,120
Speaker 4: personnel as a joke, compared to the real crop of

858
00:43:22,320 --> 00:43:25,200
Speaker 4: the AFC, the top of that conference. You got a

859
00:43:25,280 --> 00:43:28,400
Speaker 4: quarterback that he's fallen out of favor, You've benched him

860
00:43:28,440 --> 00:43:31,960
Speaker 4: multiple times, his attitude has soured both on you and

861
00:43:32,120 --> 00:43:35,480
Speaker 4: on everything surrounding that team. There's not a lot of

862
00:43:35,520 --> 00:43:40,000
Speaker 4: skill talent there. You've dealt with some injuries, there's some stubbornness, obviously,

863
00:43:40,800 --> 00:43:43,480
Speaker 4: and you've just been boat raced by a lot of

864
00:43:43,480 --> 00:43:46,359
Speaker 4: other teams in the NFL who have moved to a

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Speaker 4: different brand of offensive philosophy. And we even saw this

866
00:43:51,640 --> 00:43:55,080
Speaker 4: with Saban at Alabama when they had to go from

867
00:43:55,120 --> 00:43:59,000
Speaker 4: the game manager quarterback to a guy like a Tua

868
00:43:59,160 --> 00:44:03,560
Speaker 4: or enough mac Jones guys. But they had a ton

869
00:44:03,600 --> 00:44:07,800
Speaker 4: of weapons around them and scored just a boatload of points.

870
00:44:07,800 --> 00:44:11,120
Speaker 4: When the SEC shifted into that mode, Saban joined them.

871
00:44:11,760 --> 00:44:14,280
Speaker 4: This Patriots team is still playing like it's two thousand

872
00:44:14,280 --> 00:44:16,960
Speaker 4: and three and it's not. And they don't have the

873
00:44:17,000 --> 00:44:19,960
Speaker 4: talent that they had in two thousand and three. They're

874
00:44:20,000 --> 00:44:22,719
Speaker 4: in a tough division where they are by far the

875
00:44:22,760 --> 00:44:25,920
Speaker 4: weakest length there. And it's amazing to see that this

876
00:44:26,120 --> 00:44:31,480
Speaker 4: is how it likely may end for Bill Belichick in

877
00:44:31,520 --> 00:44:34,320
Speaker 4: New England. That is, it's going to be this unceremonious.

878
00:44:34,360 --> 00:44:38,160
Speaker 4: I mean, I don't see a Victor Wombinyana coming for

879
00:44:38,239 --> 00:44:40,439
Speaker 4: the New England Patriots. But that's the meeam I most

880
00:44:40,440 --> 00:44:41,880
Speaker 4: associated with me.

881
00:44:43,040 --> 00:44:44,400
Speaker 3: Let me jump in on that. Let me jump in

882
00:44:44,400 --> 00:44:44,600
Speaker 3: on that.

883
00:44:45,400 --> 00:44:49,480
Speaker 2: Let's say, hypothetically, the Patriots somehow, not somehow, I mean,

884
00:44:49,520 --> 00:44:51,960
Speaker 2: I think it's absolutely in play. They're so bad that

885
00:44:51,960 --> 00:44:54,880
Speaker 2: they get the number one pick. My thing is, is

886
00:44:54,960 --> 00:44:57,799
Speaker 2: Bill Belichick based on what we've seen in any way,

887
00:44:57,800 --> 00:45:00,080
Speaker 2: shape or form. We talked about King Lincoln, right, but

888
00:45:00,080 --> 00:45:03,920
Speaker 2: Lincoln raleys would Bill Belichick with the way he is drafted,

889
00:45:03,960 --> 00:45:08,239
Speaker 2: with the way he has valued offensive personnel, Like even

890
00:45:08,280 --> 00:45:10,799
Speaker 2: if you get your Victor Weinbiniama, even if you get

891
00:45:10,840 --> 00:45:15,040
Speaker 2: Caleb Williams, a Drake may whomever, is Bill Belichick the

892
00:45:15,080 --> 00:45:17,799
Speaker 2: guy to put to put that kid in position to

893
00:45:17,800 --> 00:45:18,320
Speaker 2: have success?

894
00:45:18,320 --> 00:45:19,200
Speaker 3: Because I don't think he is.

895
00:45:19,920 --> 00:45:22,480
Speaker 4: He may not be. And that's a really good point.

896
00:45:22,600 --> 00:45:28,960
Speaker 4: And sometimes you have to redefine responsibilities. Is Bill Belichick

897
00:45:29,080 --> 00:45:31,799
Speaker 4: willing to see some of the control when it comes

898
00:45:31,840 --> 00:45:35,680
Speaker 4: to the personnel to allow himself to do the rest

899
00:45:35,760 --> 00:45:38,239
Speaker 4: of the job, which we still know how capable he

900
00:45:38,360 --> 00:45:41,920
Speaker 4: is of doing, but maybe not doing all of the

901
00:45:42,680 --> 00:45:45,839
Speaker 4: executive stuff that he has done through the years. It's

902
00:45:45,880 --> 00:45:48,040
Speaker 4: tough to ask a coach to step away from something

903
00:45:48,080 --> 00:45:50,000
Speaker 4: that he's gotten used to doing. But that might be

904
00:45:50,080 --> 00:45:53,880
Speaker 4: the prerequis It's like, you know we're gonna this happens

905
00:45:53,920 --> 00:45:56,040
Speaker 4: when a coach fails or when a coach doesn't live

906
00:45:56,080 --> 00:46:00,680
Speaker 4: up to expectations. It's hey, here's your warning. We're gonna

907
00:46:00,880 --> 00:46:04,360
Speaker 4: have to gut your staff, and sometimes that leads to

908
00:46:04,400 --> 00:46:06,680
Speaker 4: the coach leaving on his own volition, and there's a

909
00:46:06,719 --> 00:46:10,040
Speaker 4: power struggle in things of that nature. Bill Belichick cannot

910
00:46:10,040 --> 00:46:12,200
Speaker 4: be allowed. I don't care who the quarterback comes in

911
00:46:12,239 --> 00:46:15,920
Speaker 4: and is. He cannot be allowed to make all the

912
00:46:16,000 --> 00:46:19,200
Speaker 4: decisions unilaterally for that team when it comes to the

913
00:46:19,200 --> 00:46:22,800
Speaker 4: personnel and the staff, especially not all of the players,

914
00:46:23,400 --> 00:46:28,839
Speaker 4: because we haven't seen any evidence that what he has

915
00:46:29,239 --> 00:46:33,280
Speaker 4: done so successfully for a long time still works because

916
00:46:33,280 --> 00:46:37,120
Speaker 4: once Tom Brady left it hasn't. The best that it's

917
00:46:37,120 --> 00:46:40,560
Speaker 4: been is Mac Jones and the Patriots in his rookie

918
00:46:40,600 --> 00:46:44,759
Speaker 4: year getting absolutely annihilated by the Buffalo Bills in a

919
00:46:44,800 --> 00:46:48,480
Speaker 4: wildcard round playoff game. We all remember that game. That

920
00:46:48,600 --> 00:46:51,319
Speaker 4: was the last time that the Patriots looked like a

921
00:46:51,320 --> 00:46:53,040
Speaker 4: team that Okay, well, let's see what they do in

922
00:46:53,080 --> 00:46:55,799
Speaker 4: Mac Jones' second year. Well they bottomed out and now

923
00:46:55,840 --> 00:46:58,880
Speaker 4: they're worse, and so I think that's it. I just

924
00:46:58,880 --> 00:47:01,920
Speaker 4: think that Belichick at this point you have to redefine

925
00:47:02,480 --> 00:47:04,920
Speaker 4: his role. If he sticks around, I don't know if

926
00:47:04,960 --> 00:47:06,520
Speaker 4: he's going to want to be around for this anyway.

927
00:47:06,600 --> 00:47:07,960
Speaker 4: This can't be fun for him.

928
00:47:08,600 --> 00:47:12,319
Speaker 2: So let's have that conversation because it was interesting. On

929
00:47:12,400 --> 00:47:16,040
Speaker 2: these airwaves Fox Sports Radio the Colin Cowherd Show earlier

930
00:47:16,080 --> 00:47:19,239
Speaker 2: this week, Albert Breer from Sports Illustrated was kind of

931
00:47:19,280 --> 00:47:21,000
Speaker 2: asked about the future of this organization.

932
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Speaker 3: Here's what he had to say.

933
00:47:22,680 --> 00:47:24,920
Speaker 8: The discussions about the future of the franchise actually do

934
00:47:25,000 --> 00:47:27,880
Speaker 8: go back to you know, January and February when they

935
00:47:27,880 --> 00:47:30,760
Speaker 8: were sitting down with Girodd Mayo, their de facto defensive

936
00:47:30,800 --> 00:47:33,959
Speaker 8: coordinator and linebackers coach, and they got him to turn

937
00:47:34,040 --> 00:47:37,520
Speaker 8: down and interview with the Panthers when drog Mayo, like,

938
00:47:37,600 --> 00:47:39,160
Speaker 8: you know, the best thing for his career probably was

939
00:47:39,239 --> 00:47:42,400
Speaker 8: to take that in. And so the discussions of where

940
00:47:42,440 --> 00:47:44,960
Speaker 8: this goes post Belichick had been underway for a while

941
00:47:45,520 --> 00:47:50,040
Speaker 8: and I think, you know, regardless of how this year went,

942
00:47:50,120 --> 00:47:51,719
Speaker 8: I think there was going to be discussion about the

943
00:47:51,719 --> 00:47:55,400
Speaker 8: structure of the franchise and potentially changing the personnel department.

944
00:47:55,680 --> 00:47:57,880
Speaker 8: Do we bring in a general manager, promote somebody a

945
00:47:57,920 --> 00:48:00,919
Speaker 8: general manager, and see a Bill wants to work with them.

946
00:48:01,280 --> 00:48:04,520
Speaker 8: I think now we're at the point where is this

947
00:48:04,680 --> 00:48:06,880
Speaker 8: just going to be a flat out firing. Yeah, And

948
00:48:07,360 --> 00:48:09,520
Speaker 8: do they want to go forward with the current program,

949
00:48:09,640 --> 00:48:11,880
Speaker 8: and what does that mean for girod maol Like, I

950
00:48:11,960 --> 00:48:14,600
Speaker 8: think those bigger picture discussions are now part of it,

951
00:48:14,640 --> 00:48:17,319
Speaker 8: but the discussions of where they are post Belichick had

952
00:48:17,360 --> 00:48:19,680
Speaker 8: been going going on for a while. And you know,

953
00:48:19,920 --> 00:48:23,920
Speaker 8: again back in January and February included girod Mayo, that was.

954
00:48:23,880 --> 00:48:27,040
Speaker 3: Albert Breer on the Herd, a couple other things.

955
00:48:27,600 --> 00:48:30,400
Speaker 2: You know, Colin ass point blank have there been discussions,

956
00:48:30,440 --> 00:48:32,960
Speaker 2: and he said these discussions have taken place. I can

957
00:48:32,960 --> 00:48:36,400
Speaker 2: tell you that Robert hears the criticism, He hears the

958
00:48:36,440 --> 00:48:38,600
Speaker 2: anger locally, and people in the building know for a

959
00:48:38,600 --> 00:48:40,959
Speaker 2: fact that he's hearing the anger from the fan base,

960
00:48:41,000 --> 00:48:43,520
Speaker 2: and he's very cognizant of where his team is in

961
00:48:43,560 --> 00:48:46,439
Speaker 2: the pecking order of NFL teams as well. First of all, Jason,

962
00:48:46,480 --> 00:48:48,359
Speaker 2: I would say this, as far as the Albert Breer sound,

963
00:48:48,400 --> 00:48:49,959
Speaker 2: by the way, thank you to crandall in the back.

964
00:48:50,000 --> 00:48:52,440
Speaker 2: It's a busy Saturday night at college football on MLB.

965
00:48:52,600 --> 00:48:54,480
Speaker 2: I know he stretched thin, So thank you to crandall

966
00:48:54,719 --> 00:48:57,919
Speaker 2: for getting us that sound real quick. First of all,

967
00:48:58,800 --> 00:49:02,600
Speaker 2: just listening to that they may force him to hire

968
00:49:02,719 --> 00:49:05,520
Speaker 2: a general manager like that, that sounds like what we

969
00:49:05,520 --> 00:49:07,799
Speaker 2: were talking about in the last segment. Hey, Dabbo, why

970
00:49:07,840 --> 00:49:10,040
Speaker 2: don't you check out this thing called the transfer portal?

971
00:49:10,280 --> 00:49:10,440
Speaker 4: Right?

972
00:49:10,480 --> 00:49:11,160
Speaker 3: It might help you.

973
00:49:11,440 --> 00:49:14,680
Speaker 2: Hey, Bill Belichick, how about you get You're seventy something

974
00:49:14,760 --> 00:49:19,160
Speaker 2: years old. You haven't drafted well in forever. Like the

975
00:49:19,280 --> 00:49:22,319
Speaker 2: idea that the conversation is, we might, for like, if

976
00:49:22,320 --> 00:49:25,439
Speaker 2: he stays, we might have to force him to hire

977
00:49:25,480 --> 00:49:28,200
Speaker 2: a general manager. That's like saying to like a major

978
00:49:28,280 --> 00:49:30,760
Speaker 2: league baseball team, Hey, maybe you should hire a pitching

979
00:49:30,800 --> 00:49:34,239
Speaker 2: coach like I. That just sounds so archaic out of

980
00:49:34,360 --> 00:49:37,439
Speaker 2: like the seventies or something that it speaks to where

981
00:49:37,480 --> 00:49:38,400
Speaker 2: this organization is.

982
00:49:39,040 --> 00:49:43,799
Speaker 4: Yeah, and it speaks to the stubborn nature of Belichick

983
00:49:44,200 --> 00:49:47,719
Speaker 4: and how difficult and challenging this whole scenario is going

984
00:49:47,760 --> 00:49:49,600
Speaker 4: to be. And that's why you heard the flat out

985
00:49:49,640 --> 00:49:53,960
Speaker 4: fire part of brears commentary. There to Colhard, I can't

986
00:49:54,000 --> 00:49:58,719
Speaker 4: imagine a universe where Bill Belichick is fired from the Patriots.

987
00:49:59,200 --> 00:50:01,400
Speaker 4: I can see a verse where he steps down in

988
00:50:01,520 --> 00:50:03,160
Speaker 4: order not to be publicly fired.

989
00:50:03,200 --> 00:50:05,080
Speaker 2: I was gonna say, you don't think he's too stubborn

990
00:50:05,120 --> 00:50:07,840
Speaker 2: where you know? I mean, listen, he basically held the

991
00:50:07,960 --> 00:50:10,359
Speaker 2: organization's feet to the fire on pretty much everything else.

992
00:50:10,400 --> 00:50:12,600
Speaker 2: You don't think that he would dare them to fire him.

993
00:50:13,320 --> 00:50:14,040
Speaker 2: I think he would.

994
00:50:14,440 --> 00:50:18,719
Speaker 4: That'd be interesting. I just feel like, if they sit

995
00:50:18,800 --> 00:50:21,439
Speaker 4: you down and they say we're going to fire you

996
00:50:22,520 --> 00:50:27,359
Speaker 4: after this meeting, or you can resign, you can step down,

997
00:50:28,120 --> 00:50:30,560
Speaker 4: move on with your life. It's up to you how

998
00:50:30,640 --> 00:50:33,080
Speaker 4: you want this to be perceived. And if he wants

999
00:50:33,120 --> 00:50:35,080
Speaker 4: to go that route, then that's fine. I think if

1000
00:50:35,080 --> 00:50:37,759
Speaker 4: they call his bluff, they'll fire him, or if he

1001
00:50:37,800 --> 00:50:40,720
Speaker 4: calls their bluff, I should say they will fire him

1002
00:50:41,160 --> 00:50:43,520
Speaker 4: if that's the direction that they want to move, if

1003
00:50:43,560 --> 00:50:45,480
Speaker 4: they're putting a lot of the blame at his feet.

1004
00:50:46,239 --> 00:50:50,279
Speaker 4: The Jerroatemeo stuff is interesting because I remember right here

1005
00:50:50,280 --> 00:50:52,920
Speaker 4: where I do the show in Nashville, Tennessee, when the

1006
00:50:52,960 --> 00:50:56,360
Speaker 4: Tennessee job opened up after Jeremy Pruitt and the investigation

1007
00:50:56,440 --> 00:50:59,239
Speaker 4: and all that, Mayo was a hot name. He was

1008
00:50:59,239 --> 00:51:01,240
Speaker 4: a hot name for that gig because you know, obviously

1009
00:51:01,400 --> 00:51:04,560
Speaker 4: played there and a ton of love for that university.

1010
00:51:04,600 --> 00:51:06,760
Speaker 4: And we interviewed him. I had him on my morning

1011
00:51:06,800 --> 00:51:11,480
Speaker 4: show at the time, and he was very careful in

1012
00:51:11,560 --> 00:51:15,800
Speaker 4: how he spoke because it was very clear he wanted

1013
00:51:15,840 --> 00:51:18,399
Speaker 4: an NFL head coaching job and he wanted to move

1014
00:51:18,480 --> 00:51:20,840
Speaker 4: up into that role. And I think he felt pretty

1015
00:51:20,840 --> 00:51:24,920
Speaker 4: comfortable with where the future might be should he just

1016
00:51:25,040 --> 00:51:29,759
Speaker 4: stick with the Patriots organization. So as soon as that

1017
00:51:29,840 --> 00:51:32,400
Speaker 4: name popped up, I said, okay, that makes sense because

1018
00:51:32,800 --> 00:51:35,440
Speaker 4: that checks out with everything over the past few years,

1019
00:51:36,960 --> 00:51:39,400
Speaker 4: you know, when I was more kind of in the

1020
00:51:39,400 --> 00:51:42,920
Speaker 4: circle and paying attention to things on that level, especially

1021
00:51:42,920 --> 00:51:45,520
Speaker 4: around the college thing. So now that this is coming

1022
00:51:45,560 --> 00:51:49,239
Speaker 4: back around and his name specifically is being mentioned, and

1023
00:51:49,360 --> 00:51:53,080
Speaker 4: by the way, you're seeing a successful defensive coordinator in

1024
00:51:53,200 --> 00:51:55,840
Speaker 4: year one. Go back to the place where he played

1025
00:51:55,880 --> 00:51:59,600
Speaker 4: and had success in Houston with Tamiko Ryans. It's all

1026
00:51:59,640 --> 00:52:03,360
Speaker 4: about the quarterback. Demko Ryan stepped in, He's going to

1027
00:52:03,400 --> 00:52:06,080
Speaker 4: make the defense better and he has. But CJ. Stroud

1028
00:52:06,120 --> 00:52:08,520
Speaker 4: has stepped up to the Playton been the guy. He's

1029
00:52:08,640 --> 00:52:11,680
Speaker 4: done the job. So you look at that situation again

1030
00:52:11,719 --> 00:52:16,600
Speaker 4: and you say, all right, Mayo, smart guy, incredible defensive mind.

1031
00:52:17,880 --> 00:52:20,759
Speaker 4: The guys like playing for him, has the attitude, has

1032
00:52:20,800 --> 00:52:25,040
Speaker 4: everything that you want. He's ready for this role. Now

1033
00:52:25,080 --> 00:52:26,719
Speaker 4: you've got to make sure that he gets his guy

1034
00:52:26,760 --> 00:52:30,080
Speaker 4: at quarterback, And so I think that it is more

1035
00:52:30,320 --> 00:52:33,480
Speaker 4: likely that if you have a top level draft pick

1036
00:52:33,480 --> 00:52:35,359
Speaker 4: in your New England, if you have a top five pick,

1037
00:52:35,360 --> 00:52:37,239
Speaker 4: if you have a top three pick, if you're the

1038
00:52:37,360 --> 00:52:39,040
Speaker 4: worst team in the league by the end of the year,

1039
00:52:39,640 --> 00:52:42,200
Speaker 4: that's when you let your coach go, because that gives

1040
00:52:42,280 --> 00:52:46,160
Speaker 4: the next guy the opportunity to step right in, potentially

1041
00:52:46,200 --> 00:52:50,319
Speaker 4: with a new general manager, and pick the quarterback of

1042
00:52:50,400 --> 00:52:53,360
Speaker 4: the future. That sets you up for success. Whether or

1043
00:52:53,400 --> 00:52:56,920
Speaker 4: not it works. It doesn't always right. I mean, Cliff

1044
00:52:57,000 --> 00:53:01,880
Speaker 4: got Kyler, but it didn't necessarily work. But that I

1045
00:53:01,920 --> 00:53:05,440
Speaker 4: think is still the blueprint because then you've got a

1046
00:53:05,440 --> 00:53:08,520
Speaker 4: brand new coach with a rookie quarterback on a rookie

1047
00:53:08,600 --> 00:53:11,600
Speaker 4: quarterback wage, at which point you're able to build around

1048
00:53:11,680 --> 00:53:14,800
Speaker 4: him and it gives you the recipe for success quickly.

1049
00:53:15,160 --> 00:53:17,879
Speaker 3: Yeah, last thought on this. Then we'll wrapped and get

1050
00:53:17,960 --> 00:53:18,720
Speaker 3: some other stuff.

1051
00:53:19,320 --> 00:53:22,520
Speaker 2: It sound it just sounds crazy to say when you

1052
00:53:22,560 --> 00:53:24,880
Speaker 2: have a six time Super Bowl champion head coach, but

1053
00:53:25,400 --> 00:53:28,600
Speaker 2: if you like, like, let's say, there is that conversation

1054
00:53:28,880 --> 00:53:30,600
Speaker 2: or at least there's the thought like, hey, if this

1055
00:53:30,640 --> 00:53:32,719
Speaker 2: doesn't get better, we might have to put him in

1056
00:53:32,760 --> 00:53:35,120
Speaker 2: that position where he has to make the decision. Am

1057
00:53:35,120 --> 00:53:38,239
Speaker 2: I gonna be publicly fired? Am I gonna retire? Like

1058
00:53:38,680 --> 00:53:41,799
Speaker 2: my thought is it's almost like, I don't know, it's

1059
00:53:41,800 --> 00:53:43,880
Speaker 2: almost like what we talked about last hour with Lincoln Riley,

1060
00:53:43,960 --> 00:53:45,680
Speaker 2: Like what proof do we have that things are gonna

1061
00:53:45,760 --> 00:53:47,960
Speaker 2: change on the Lincoln Riley? What proof do we have

1062
00:53:48,000 --> 00:53:50,560
Speaker 2: that it's gonna get like Like, I guess it's it

1063
00:53:50,719 --> 00:53:54,680
Speaker 2: sounds weird to say, but what can Bill Belichick say

1064
00:53:55,160 --> 00:53:58,479
Speaker 2: that's gonna make you feel better that if he comes back,

1065
00:53:58,520 --> 00:54:01,560
Speaker 2: things are gonna be different. Listen, he even if you

1066
00:54:01,719 --> 00:54:05,640
Speaker 2: get the star quarterback because you're so bad. He is

1067
00:54:05,800 --> 00:54:08,400
Speaker 2: not a guy that embraces young people. Mac Jones has

1068
00:54:08,440 --> 00:54:10,120
Speaker 2: gotten worse every year he didn't.

1069
00:54:10,640 --> 00:54:10,799
Speaker 6: You know.

1070
00:54:10,840 --> 00:54:12,400
Speaker 2: I know there's a lot of stuff in the building

1071
00:54:12,400 --> 00:54:14,640
Speaker 2: about mac Jones and what's really going on and what

1072
00:54:14,719 --> 00:54:17,480
Speaker 2: kind of teammate is he, But you can't argue that

1073
00:54:17,239 --> 00:54:20,040
Speaker 2: that Bill Belichick did not put that guy in position

1074
00:54:20,120 --> 00:54:23,160
Speaker 2: to succeed last year with you know, Patrician Joe Judge

1075
00:54:23,200 --> 00:54:25,879
Speaker 2: calling plays. I just bring it up because I don't

1076
00:54:25,920 --> 00:54:28,359
Speaker 2: know what the sales pitch is from Bill Belichick. As

1077
00:54:28,400 --> 00:54:31,040
Speaker 2: weird as it sounds of yeah, I'm gonna do this

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Speaker 2: to turn it around. Even if you get the young quarterback,

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Speaker 2: you haven't had success previously with the young quarterback. Now

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00:54:37,120 --> 00:54:40,240
Speaker 2: you haven't been able to draft skill development, skill talent guys.

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00:54:40,680 --> 00:54:44,160
Speaker 2: And oh, by the way, if you do get the

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00:54:44,200 --> 00:54:47,680
Speaker 2: young quarterback, then it becomes the question of do you

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00:54:47,760 --> 00:54:49,680
Speaker 2: really even if you hire the GM, do you really

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Speaker 2: want to wait around with this guy for another two

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Speaker 2: three years to see if it develops. So it's it's

1086
00:54:55,120 --> 00:54:57,799
Speaker 2: a wild conversation to have, but I do think that

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Speaker 2: quarterback having trouble? Is it already time to give up

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Speaker 2: on Bryce Young. We'll discuss that next. Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 2: Who's laughing at me? I hear laughing in the background?

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Speaker 2: Is that Brandon is at Jason?

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Speaker 3: Listen? I can't get down with sure.

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Speaker 4: I was waiting for you to make a halftime show reference?

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Speaker 2: Is he doing in the halftime this year to the

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Speaker 2: Super Bowl? I was gonna make a Tea Morant reference,

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Speaker 2: but I decided not to. That's well, yeah, that would

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Speaker 2: have been I mean, you know, the NBA season starting

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Speaker 2: what's that, Brandon?

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Speaker 2: Week seven of the of the NFL, and it's been interesting.

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Speaker 2: You know, it was interesting watching the Ohio State Penn

1121
00:56:48,120 --> 00:56:52,799
Speaker 2: State game today because uh, well no, it wasn't. It

1122
00:56:52,920 --> 00:56:55,479
Speaker 2: wasn't necessarily because the game was really bad.

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Speaker 4: I know, I know what you're saying. I was just

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Speaker 4: I was just born.

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Speaker 3: I was trying to transition like a profession.

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Speaker 4: I know what you're doing.

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Speaker 2: I was going to reference how CJ. Stroud was on

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Speaker 2: the sideline. The Texans are on a bye they're looking

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Speaker 2: really good. Well, they're looking better than we expected, in

1130
00:57:10,040 --> 00:57:13,719
Speaker 2: large part because CJ. Stroud was looking really good. Eight

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Speaker 2: nine touchdowns, one interception, sixteen hundred yards passing. He of course,

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Speaker 2: was the number two pick in the NFL draft this

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Speaker 2: past year. And I bring it up, Jason, because the

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Speaker 2: number one pick in the NFL draft this past year

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Speaker 2: was Bryce Young. That's interesting because speaking of all sorts

1136
00:57:30,000 --> 00:57:33,600
Speaker 2: of things that have happened, you and I both in

1137
00:57:33,640 --> 00:57:36,840
Speaker 2: the preseason picked Carolina to win the division. We weren't

1138
00:57:36,880 --> 00:57:39,959
Speaker 2: sold on any of those three teams. We said, Bryce Young,

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00:57:40,160 --> 00:57:41,160
Speaker 2: you know, listen, I think.

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Speaker 3: He's gonna be good. And he's gonna bring this.

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00:57:42,880 --> 00:57:47,320
Speaker 2: He's gonna bring that well through the first six games

1142
00:57:47,320 --> 00:57:48,760
Speaker 2: of his career, and I know he didn't play a

1143
00:57:48,760 --> 00:57:52,280
Speaker 2: little bit because of injury. Sixty three percent completion percentage,

1144
00:57:52,280 --> 00:57:56,840
Speaker 2: six touchdowns, four interceptions coming off a game last week

1145
00:57:56,880 --> 00:58:03,880
Speaker 2: against Miami two hundred and seventeen yards passing one touchdown. Jason,

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00:58:03,920 --> 00:58:07,800
Speaker 2: are you yet at all concerned about Bryce Young and

1147
00:58:07,840 --> 00:58:08,880
Speaker 2: the very.

1148
00:58:08,640 --> 00:58:10,680
Speaker 3: Slow start that he's gotten off to an NFL career.

1149
00:58:11,920 --> 00:58:15,600
Speaker 4: I admit I'm concerned, and I'm very surprised to be

1150
00:58:15,720 --> 00:58:19,680
Speaker 4: saying that because I was such a proponent of what

1151
00:58:19,760 --> 00:58:21,240
Speaker 4: I thought he was going to be able to do

1152
00:58:21,840 --> 00:58:25,600
Speaker 4: quickly in the NFL. I don't know that I'm ready

1153
00:58:25,640 --> 00:58:27,840
Speaker 4: to completely bail out because I just feel like his

1154
00:58:27,880 --> 00:58:30,800
Speaker 4: football IQ is still off the charts and I saw

1155
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Speaker 4: what he did at Alabama. But I'm concerned, and I'm

1156
00:58:33,640 --> 00:58:37,280
Speaker 4: concerned a lot because he really does look like he

1157
00:58:37,400 --> 00:58:40,680
Speaker 4: is struggling to and we've seen the reports. They've simplified

1158
00:58:40,680 --> 00:58:44,640
Speaker 4: the offense for him, just stuff that I never would

1159
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Speaker 4: have thought we would have heard about Bryce Young. And

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Speaker 4: I've never looked at a guy that's been drafted in

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00:58:51,160 --> 00:58:54,560
Speaker 4: terms of size once he was drafted and felt the

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Speaker 4: way I do watching Bryce, the way Bryce has to

1163
00:58:57,800 --> 00:59:01,200
Speaker 4: throw the ball and the way he looks it, just

1164
00:59:02,160 --> 00:59:06,000
Speaker 4: there's something that's just not there. And I am I'm

1165
00:59:06,000 --> 00:59:10,800
Speaker 4: pretty stunned, actually, because it just seems so obvious looking

1166
00:59:10,880 --> 00:59:14,520
Speaker 4: at it that there is a big time learning curve,

1167
00:59:14,560 --> 00:59:16,439
Speaker 4: but there's just a curve to be able to look

1168
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Speaker 4: over your own offensive line and look down the field

1169
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Speaker 4: and find guys in a different way than he had

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Speaker 4: to do it at Alabama. And I'm again, I'm not

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Speaker 4: out on him completely, but I am very concerned. If

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Speaker 4: I'm a Panthers fan and you look at what Stroud

1173
00:59:32,800 --> 00:59:36,280
Speaker 4: is doing and you start to wonder, you know, what

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Speaker 4: could it have been if we had, you know, made

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Speaker 4: the other decision. And I didn't think that was the

1176
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Speaker 4: right call. I thought that Bryce Young was the right call.

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Speaker 4: I'm certainly not going to you know, change history or

1178
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Speaker 4: change how I felt at the time. But right now

1179
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Speaker 4: I'm watching Bryce Young and I'm just like, what is

1180
00:59:50,960 --> 00:59:54,800
Speaker 4: your ceiling? Because I'm just not sure. It just doesn't

1181
00:59:54,840 --> 00:59:57,440
Speaker 4: look right. It doesn't look like he's made for the

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Speaker 4: NFL at his size and just the way he's throwing

1183
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Speaker 4: the ball. It looks like he's not the same quarterback

1184
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Speaker 4: that I watched dominate college football and be such a

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Speaker 4: special player. And it is. Really it's one of the

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Speaker 4: more shocking things that I've seen in a while, just

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Speaker 4: how poorly this has gone so far. He has gotten

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Speaker 4: a little bit better, and maybe it's just taken him

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Speaker 4: a little while and he's gonna end up being great.

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Speaker 4: I still hope. So I loved him, I love him,

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Speaker 4: but right now I am definitely worried.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's interesting.

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Speaker 2: So first of all, this kind of kills my theory

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Speaker 2: that it's not as hard to evaluate quarterbacks as everyone

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Speaker 2: makes it out to be.

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Speaker 3: That was one of my big offseason takes.

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Speaker 2: It was like, well, you know, Zach Wilson was kind

1198
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Speaker 2: of easy to see, Trey Lance was kind of easy

1199
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Speaker 2: to see, you see, and you know whatever. And I

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Speaker 2: was a guy that was very anti CJ. Stroud, very

1201
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Speaker 2: pro Bryce Young. I'm with you only because, like you said,

1202
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Speaker 2: it's it's we talk like size is something we obviously

1203
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Speaker 2: talk about during the draft cycle, but it does feel

1204
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Speaker 2: like once a guy gets to the league. I mean,

1205
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Speaker 2: I don't really remember like size really impacting anybody that

1206
01:01:05,640 --> 01:01:07,440
Speaker 2: much It's like if you're just not good enough, you're

1207
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Speaker 2: not good enough. But you know, whether it's Kyler Murray,

1208
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Speaker 2: whether it's you know, Baker Mayfield, whoever it.

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Speaker 4: Is, it brees. I mean, all the guys that are

1210
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Speaker 4: known to be or that were knocked for that, a

1211
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Speaker 4: lot of them have succeeded in spite of it. So

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Speaker 4: there was no reason to think Bryce Young wasn't gonna

1213
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Speaker 4: be able to do that, even if he was a

1214
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Speaker 4: little bit smaller stature. But he doesn't have that, he

1215
01:01:28,720 --> 01:01:31,080
Speaker 4: doesn't have that thickness, he doesn't have the broadness in

1216
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Speaker 4: his shoulders. There's just something that's not there. And when

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Speaker 4: you see him in the NFL uniform and you see

1218
01:01:36,960 --> 01:01:40,320
Speaker 4: everybody else out there, you recognize immediately, wait, no, this

1219
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Speaker 4: guy is much smaller than maybe we thought.

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Speaker 2: And it's just weird because i it's not as though

1221
01:01:45,560 --> 01:01:51,280
Speaker 2: Alabama is uh correct, you know, Jacksonville stated, Yeah.

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Speaker 4: I mean they put an NFL team out there, and

1223
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Speaker 4: so you would think that seeing him with them and

1224
01:01:56,040 --> 01:02:00,440
Speaker 4: playing in a conference full of NFL talent, this wouldn't

1225
01:02:00,480 --> 01:02:03,160
Speaker 4: seem so stark, but it just does, like it just

1226
01:02:03,200 --> 01:02:06,760
Speaker 4: seems like there's like an aspect ratio changed, and all

1227
01:02:06,800 --> 01:02:09,360
Speaker 4: of a sudden, he's in a giant world and it's honey,

1228
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Speaker 4: I shrunk the quarterback.

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Speaker 2: It's true, by the way, that the Panthers, like the Texans,

1230
01:02:14,240 --> 01:02:18,080
Speaker 2: are on a bye they will play each other next week,

1231
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Speaker 2: so number one versus number two overall pick as Bryce

1232
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Speaker 2: Young and the Carolina Panthers will host the Houston Texans

1233
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Speaker 2: following week.

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01:02:25,760 --> 01:02:26,880
Speaker 3: By the way, they play the cole too.

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Speaker 2: Obviously, unfortunately without Anthony Richardson, I think the only saving

1236
01:02:30,280 --> 01:02:32,480
Speaker 2: grace for Bryce Young, it is a little bit of

1237
01:02:32,520 --> 01:02:36,040
Speaker 2: a manageable schedule. Next three Houston at home, Indy at home,

1238
01:02:36,200 --> 01:02:38,960
Speaker 2: Bears at home, and you still have, obviously a lot

1239
01:02:38,960 --> 01:02:42,000
Speaker 2: of divisional games, which in theory should be winnable. Fox

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Speaker 2: Sports Radio ERATORUS Jason Martin broadcasting live from thee Tireck

1241
01:02:45,440 --> 01:02:47,920
Speaker 2: dot Com studios. When we come back, you know, I

1242
01:02:47,960 --> 01:02:50,800
Speaker 2: just mentioned Zach Wilson just mention how it was so

1243
01:02:50,840 --> 01:02:52,479
Speaker 2: easy to see that it wasn't gonna work.

1244
01:02:53,320 --> 01:02:54,360
Speaker 4: Is it actually gonna work?

1245
01:02:54,640 --> 01:02:57,080
Speaker 2: We'll discuss that next. Before we do, though, let's toss

1246
01:02:57,120 --> 01:02:59,320
Speaker 2: it over the news desk to sager. What is trending?

1247
01:02:59,680 --> 01:03:03,680
Speaker 7: Well, gentlemen, Arizona State has never beaten an AP top

1248
01:03:03,720 --> 01:03:07,080
Speaker 7: five ranked team on the road. They are winning on

1249
01:03:07,120 --> 01:03:10,800
Speaker 7: the road at number five ranked Washington tonight halftime seven

1250
01:03:10,840 --> 01:03:14,440
Speaker 7: to three Sun Devils on FS one. ASU beat a

1251
01:03:14,520 --> 01:03:19,160
Speaker 7: number five ranked Washington team at home in twenty seventeen,

1252
01:03:19,880 --> 01:03:23,200
Speaker 7: and very famously ASU beat number one Nebraska in the

1253
01:03:23,200 --> 01:03:26,760
Speaker 7: mid nineties. NASU also won a Rose Bowl against a

1254
01:03:26,840 --> 01:03:29,280
Speaker 7: top five Michigan team back in the eighties when John

1255
01:03:29,320 --> 01:03:32,240
Speaker 7: Cooper was coached before he left for Ohio State, and

1256
01:03:32,280 --> 01:03:34,960
Speaker 7: aside from that, their only all time win against a

1257
01:03:35,040 --> 01:03:37,640
Speaker 7: top five team was when they beat Marcus Allen and

1258
01:03:37,800 --> 01:03:41,280
Speaker 7: USC back in the late seventies, when the Trojans had

1259
01:03:41,320 --> 01:03:44,600
Speaker 7: won at number one Alabama early in the season, sc

1260
01:03:44,760 --> 01:03:47,080
Speaker 7: was ranked number two when they went into tenp and

1261
01:03:47,120 --> 01:03:50,400
Speaker 7: got beaten. But on the road, no ASU has never

1262
01:03:50,440 --> 01:03:53,720
Speaker 7: beaten a top five team, and yet somehow it is

1263
01:03:53,760 --> 01:03:56,880
Speaker 7: Arizona State with a one in five record, leading at

1264
01:03:56,920 --> 01:03:59,960
Speaker 7: Washington at the half seven to three on FS one.

1265
01:04:00,120 --> 01:04:03,280
Speaker 7: The other late game number twenty five UCLA leading twenty

1266
01:04:03,280 --> 01:04:06,000
Speaker 7: one nothing at Stanford. They have started the third quarter

1267
01:04:06,080 --> 01:04:08,800
Speaker 7: in that game. There is no late game for Hawaii

1268
01:04:08,800 --> 01:04:10,840
Speaker 7: by the way they played on the road today and

1269
01:04:10,960 --> 01:04:14,400
Speaker 7: lost at New Mexico. In fact, Hawaii is two and

1270
01:04:14,520 --> 01:04:17,640
Speaker 7: six this year, and that includes one victory against Albany.

1271
01:04:18,080 --> 01:04:20,720
Speaker 7: Next Saturday night, the late game will be at Hawaii

1272
01:04:20,800 --> 01:04:23,880
Speaker 7: hosting San Jose State. While we're talking Mountain West. By

1273
01:04:23,880 --> 01:04:26,600
Speaker 7: the way, air Force is seven to zero and ranked

1274
01:04:26,600 --> 01:04:28,760
Speaker 7: in the top twenty five after the low scoring win

1275
01:04:28,840 --> 01:04:32,640
Speaker 7: at Navy UNLV is six to one after going six

1276
01:04:32,680 --> 01:04:35,880
Speaker 7: for six on field goals to edge Colorado State. And

1277
01:04:35,960 --> 01:04:38,960
Speaker 7: if you love field goals, Nevada gonna win six nothing

1278
01:04:39,280 --> 01:04:41,680
Speaker 7: at San Diego State, hitting two field goals in the

1279
01:04:41,720 --> 01:04:44,800
Speaker 7: first half, missing two field goal attempts in the second half.

1280
01:04:45,000 --> 01:04:47,120
Speaker 7: Just to make it interesting, I bring that game up

1281
01:04:47,120 --> 01:04:49,960
Speaker 7: because Nevada had lost sixteen games in a row. This

1282
01:04:50,120 --> 01:04:53,880
Speaker 7: breaks the longest current losing streak in FBS. Tonight, this

1283
01:04:54,000 --> 01:04:56,880
Speaker 7: game that was on FS two. We'll more have more

1284
01:04:56,920 --> 01:05:00,480
Speaker 7: on that game and that team. In about fifteen minutes

1285
01:05:00,800 --> 01:05:03,360
Speaker 7: wins in the top ten for Michigan and Ohio State

1286
01:05:03,400 --> 01:05:06,520
Speaker 7: Buckeyes beat Penn State twenty to twelve. Number four Florida

1287
01:05:06,600 --> 01:05:09,600
Speaker 7: State is still undefeated and in fact the only undefeated

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Speaker 7: team in ACC play. Seminoles got three touchdowns in the

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Speaker 7: fourth quarter to beat Duke thirty eight to twenty. Number

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Speaker 7: six Oklahoma edged Central Florida thirty one twenty nine as

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Speaker 7: UCF missed a two point run with just over a

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Speaker 7: minute left. Number eight Texas got a stop of Houston

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Speaker 7: on a late fourth and one to beat the Cougars

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Speaker 7: on the road thirty one to twenty four. Ninth ranked

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Speaker 7: Oregon over Washington State thirty eight twenty four, and an

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Speaker 7: upset win for Virginia. They'd never beaten a top ten

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Speaker 7: team on the road until tonight had undefeated North Carolina.

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Speaker 7: Virginia beat the tar Hills thirty one to twenty seven.

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Speaker 7: Alabama came back to defeat Tennessee Utah with the upset

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Speaker 7: win at USC on the field goal on the final play.

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Speaker 7: Victories for Old miss easy wins for LSU and Missouri,

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Speaker 7: wins for Tulane and for Minnesota, which wanted Iowa twelve

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Speaker 7: to ten. Tonight, Miami in double overtime beat Clemson twenty

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Speaker 7: eight to twenty. Well to the baseball playoffs Philadelphia Homers

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Speaker 7: and Homers again six to one. The final at Arizona.

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Speaker 7: It's three games to two Phillies. They can close out

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Speaker 7: the NL Championship Series at home, with Game six on

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Speaker 7: Monday night. The updated stat from the Great Baseball researcher

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Speaker 7: Sarah langs that this postseason teams that out homer their

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Speaker 7: opponent are eighteen and three. Tonight, solo homers in the

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Speaker 7: sixth inning for Kyle Schwarber and Bryce Harper, top of

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Speaker 7: the eighth, two run homer for j t rail Muto.

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Speaker 7: So here at Arizona team that had so much excitement

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Speaker 7: the last couple of nights. The win Thursday with a

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Speaker 7: run in the ninth. The win Friday, also against Craig

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Speaker 7: Kimberl with three runs bottom of the eighth got him

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Speaker 7: even in the series. Now they have to go back

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Speaker 7: to Philly, down three to two. Zach Gallon took the

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Speaker 7: loss for the Diamondbacks. He was seventeen to nine regular season,

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Speaker 7: but another poor start gave up a couple of homers

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Speaker 7: in his six innings. The win to Zach Wheeler great

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Speaker 7: in the postseason again in seven innings, eight strikeouts. Houston

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Speaker 7: reliever Brian abray You was suspended two games for hitting

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Speaker 7: a batter last night. He has the option to appeal

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Speaker 7: and apparently has. Houston will be hosting Texas Sunday night

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Speaker 7: on FS one eight pm Eastern Time, with the Alcs

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Speaker 7: Game six, Houston up three games to two. The World Series,

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Speaker 7: by the way, starts next Friday night, October the twenty seventh.

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Speaker 7: The NBA preseason ended last night. The two regular season

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Speaker 7: openers are on Tuesday. Most NBA teams will open on Wednesday.

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Speaker 7: And English soccer legend Bobby Charlton died at the age

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Speaker 7: of eighty six. He was on England's World Cup winning

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Speaker 7: team in nineteen sixty six when they hosted the tournament.

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Speaker 3: Back to you, Thank you very much.

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Speaker 2: Steve Saga, Fox Sports Radio, Fox Sports Saturday Era Toords

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Speaker 2: Jason mort broadcasting live from the tyreck dot Com studio.

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Speaker 2: The Saga will be back here momentarily, as he said

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Speaker 2: with his extended update, which he does every Saturday night

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Speaker 2: Sunday morning with us here on Fox Sports Radio, Jason,

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Speaker 2: I mention this a minute to go. I just think

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Speaker 2: it's worth you know, it's worth a short conversation. I'll

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Speaker 2: just I'm gonna ask you a simple question. Are the

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Speaker 2: Jets good Jason, Because I'll say this, they're three and three,

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01:08:14,200 --> 01:08:17,959
Speaker 2: obviously beat the Broncos. You're a Broncos fan beat the Eagles,

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Speaker 2: and I was thinking about this, is that when even

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01:08:22,280 --> 01:08:25,920
Speaker 2: when before Aaron Rodgers got hurt, I think we all

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01:08:25,960 --> 01:08:29,120
Speaker 2: thought they need if they go three and three in

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Speaker 2: that first six, they'll be in pretty good shape for

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Speaker 2: the rest of the year because you look at the

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Speaker 2: rest of the schedule. Now, admittedly Miami's a little bit

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Speaker 2: better than we thought, and they still have two games

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Speaker 2: against Miami, but they got the Commanders, they still got

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01:08:41,720 --> 01:08:44,800
Speaker 2: the Giants on the schedule, They got another game with

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Speaker 2: New England, and I know New England historically has has

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Speaker 2: had Zach Wilson's number. They have the Falcons, they have

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Speaker 2: the Texans. Are the Jets good? Jason Martin? Are the

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Speaker 2: Jets good?

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Speaker 4: Yeah? We knew going into the year if they had

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Speaker 4: a quarterback they were a contending team because the defense

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Speaker 4: was ahead of Schede Jewel last year and Sla knows

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Speaker 4: what he's doing on that side of the ball. You've

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Speaker 4: got two difference makers on the offensive side of the

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01:09:06,920 --> 01:09:10,280
Speaker 4: ball with Breise Hall and Garrett Wilson. So those guys

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Speaker 4: are going to get the job done for you. You

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Speaker 4: just need a quarterback that's at least competent right now,

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Speaker 4: and Zach Wilson's played better football last few weeks. I'm

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Speaker 4: not suggest I mean he had, he had one really

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01:09:19,840 --> 01:09:24,280
Speaker 4: good performance, but like he's he's just kind of elevating

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Speaker 4: himself enough to not be the butt of any jokes.

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Speaker 4: He's he's playing decent football at this point. Now, that's

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01:09:33,640 --> 01:09:37,240
Speaker 4: not your long term solution, I get it, but he's

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Speaker 4: starting to play his way into potentially having another landing

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Speaker 4: spot in the future potentially. But yeah, they're good. They're

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Speaker 4: well coached. They have players on both sides the ball

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Speaker 4: that can make plays when you have to have them,

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Speaker 4: You're never They're just a team that you're not going

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Speaker 4: to blow out because of the way that they're constructed,

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Speaker 4: the way they run the ball, and the way that

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Speaker 4: they play defense. They're a team that you have to beat.

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Speaker 4: They're no longer a team that beats themselves. So do

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Speaker 4: I think they can win a Super Bowl? No? I don't.

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01:10:10,320 --> 01:10:11,880
Speaker 4: I didn't have them pick to do that, even with

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Speaker 4: Aaron Rodgers. But I think there is a there's a

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Speaker 4: top shelf here and it's not the top shelf for

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Speaker 4: the Jets. But your question is are they good not?

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Speaker 4: Are they elite? And the answer is they're good. Yes,

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Speaker 4: they are a good football team. They're even a very

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01:10:27,000 --> 01:10:30,400
Speaker 4: good football team at times. They're still flawed, and I

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Speaker 4: don't know that those flaws can be fixed this year,

1390
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Speaker 4: but they certainly have it within them right now to

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Speaker 4: finish this season in a spot where, considering what happened

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Speaker 4: in Week one, you just would not have You could

1393
01:10:44,960 --> 01:10:48,280
Speaker 4: not have foreseen this being the answer if the Jets

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01:10:48,320 --> 01:10:51,840
Speaker 4: did not go out and find a stopgap veteran who

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01:10:51,960 --> 01:10:54,400
Speaker 4: a team wanted to unload, whether it was a Cousins

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Speaker 4: or a Tannehill or somebody like that that was potentially

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Speaker 4: out there that could be your bank this year because

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Speaker 4: you still felt like you had a shot. If they

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Speaker 4: actually do this with Zach Wilson, that's going to show

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Speaker 4: you they're a good football team, and it's going to

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Speaker 4: show you. Look that Zach actually stepped up to the

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Speaker 4: plate and did something, because he could easily be throwing

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Speaker 4: these games away even with the performances that he has

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Speaker 4: around him, and he has not been doing that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So first of all, I agree, I never understood

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01:11:22,680 --> 01:11:26,120
Speaker 2: the like you know, Robert sawas coaching for his job.

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Speaker 3: It's like, yeah, I mean, I guess it's Sye.

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01:11:27,720 --> 01:11:31,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, like you know, now, if Aaron Rodgers is healthy

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01:11:31,520 --> 01:11:33,839
Speaker 2: and you go four and thirteen, yeah, that's a different conversation.

1410
01:11:33,880 --> 01:11:35,559
Speaker 2: But I don't think anybody thought they were going to

1411
01:11:36,560 --> 01:11:38,639
Speaker 2: But you look at them. Yes, I agree that they're good.

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01:11:38,880 --> 01:11:43,320
Speaker 2: They're three and three. Next three giants at home are

1413
01:11:43,439 --> 01:11:45,719
Speaker 2: giants on the road technically, but we know how that goes.

1414
01:11:46,160 --> 01:11:48,880
Speaker 3: Chargers at home. We know about the Chargers at Vegas.

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01:11:48,960 --> 01:11:50,479
Speaker 2: So I mean, there's a chance they could be six

1416
01:11:50,520 --> 01:11:52,320
Speaker 2: and three going into a stretch where they play the

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Speaker 2: Bills and Dolphins back to back, finished with the Falcons

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Speaker 2: Texans commanders in the final couple weeks of the season. Listen,

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01:12:00,920 --> 01:12:02,920
Speaker 2: I think the way that things are shaping up in

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01:12:03,000 --> 01:12:06,880
Speaker 2: the rest of the AFC, nobody's really separating themselves outside

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Speaker 2: of Baltimore in the North. The South is kind of

1422
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Speaker 2: a jumbled mess, and then certainly the West is a

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01:12:12,960 --> 01:12:15,240
Speaker 2: jumble mess. I think the Jets are in a pretty

1424
01:12:15,280 --> 01:12:17,120
Speaker 2: good position to make a run here, potentially get one

1425
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Speaker 2: of those wildcard spots. Fox Sports Radio Aertorus Jason Martin

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Speaker 2: one update from Seattle, as Desager just told you at

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Speaker 2: his update, Arizona State up seven to three, at the

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Speaker 2: half on a top five Washington team. Washington's opening possession

1429
01:12:33,160 --> 01:12:36,440
Speaker 2: of the second half, they fumbled inside their own territory.

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Speaker 2: Arizona State has the ball. It looks like Washington has

1431
01:12:40,000 --> 01:12:42,280
Speaker 2: forced a three and out and will probably force a punt.

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Speaker 2: But the Washington Huskies, just a week after that emotional

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01:12:45,800 --> 01:12:49,519
Speaker 2: victory over the Oregon Ducks, are very much struggling at

1434
01:12:49,520 --> 01:12:52,519
Speaker 2: home today against Arizona State. Will keep you updated on

1435
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Speaker 2: that game, but coming up De Saga, as he does

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Speaker 2: every Saturday night Sunday morning, depending on where you are,

1437
01:12:58,680 --> 01:13:00,920
Speaker 2: he will join us for an extent update getting you

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Speaker 2: caught up on everything you missed in baseball, college football,

1439
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Speaker 2: and beyond. Fox Sports Radio, Welcome back, everybody, Fox Sports Radio,

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Speaker 2: Aeron Torres, Jason Martin broadcasting live from the tyreck dot

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Speaker 2: depending on where you are. About twelve thirty Eastern time.

1447
01:13:37,240 --> 01:13:39,479
Speaker 2: Toss it over the new twelve forty five, really toss

1448
01:13:39,479 --> 01:13:40,920
Speaker 2: it over the news desk to say, or the floor

1449
01:13:40,920 --> 01:13:41,320
Speaker 2: as yours.

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01:13:41,320 --> 01:13:41,639
Speaker 4: My friend.

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01:13:41,640 --> 01:13:43,840
Speaker 7: Well, I have no doubt you tuned into the Minnesota

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01:13:43,840 --> 01:13:45,160
Speaker 7: at Iowa game on NBC.

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01:13:45,840 --> 01:13:46,960
Speaker 3: You know I'll say this.

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01:13:47,320 --> 01:13:50,439
Speaker 4: I just did. Unfortunately, I saw PJ. Fleck was wearing

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01:13:50,439 --> 01:13:54,080
Speaker 4: a white jacket with a white dress shirt and a

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01:13:54,240 --> 01:13:56,680
Speaker 4: white tie, and I was trying to decide was it

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01:13:56,720 --> 01:14:00,080
Speaker 4: a tie or was that another zipper? And that was

1458
01:14:00,160 --> 01:14:03,320
Speaker 4: much more entertaining than anything that was actually happening on

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Speaker 4: the field, doing.

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Speaker 7: His own private whiteout opposite the Penn State gave today.

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Speaker 2: I just I'm so confused by this new Big ten

1462
01:14:10,760 --> 01:14:13,719
Speaker 2: TV thing because I thought I knew Michigan Michigan State

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01:14:13,800 --> 01:14:16,679
Speaker 2: was at seven thirty, so I just assumed that why

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01:14:16,680 --> 01:14:18,760
Speaker 2: would NBC have a second game, So I didn't find

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01:14:18,800 --> 01:14:21,320
Speaker 2: out about it until basically the game was essentially over,

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01:14:21,520 --> 01:14:23,639
Speaker 2: and I know you're gonna tell us what happened at

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01:14:23,640 --> 01:14:24,920
Speaker 2: the end of the game, but I.

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Speaker 7: Did not know go ahead because it looked like Iowa

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01:14:27,640 --> 01:14:30,280
Speaker 7: had something to celebrate, and then apparently there was a

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Speaker 7: fair catch signal on review and cost him the return

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Speaker 7: touchdown and Iowa lost it home.

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Speaker 3: Iowa was off.

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Speaker 7: Next week, although you could clearly say that the offense

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01:14:39,400 --> 01:14:43,200
Speaker 7: is off most weeks. Minnesota won twelve ten at Iowa

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01:14:43,280 --> 01:14:46,000
Speaker 7: as the Gophers were four for five on field goals.

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01:14:46,040 --> 01:14:49,719
Speaker 7: Each team punted nine times. Today, Iowa only had nine

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01:14:49,800 --> 01:14:52,360
Speaker 7: first downs and still almost stole the game. They had

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01:14:52,360 --> 01:14:55,600
Speaker 7: one hundred and twenty seven yards of offense. NBC is

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Speaker 7: in its first season carrying this Big ten package, but

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01:14:58,840 --> 01:15:01,240
Speaker 7: so far it's three more. Most watch games are all

1481
01:15:01,280 --> 01:15:03,439
Speaker 7: part of the Notre Dame package, which it has had

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Speaker 7: for many, many years. Iowa as a team twenty eight

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01:15:07,120 --> 01:15:11,559
Speaker 7: carries eleven yards rushing, including the four sax quarterback Deacon

1484
01:15:11,640 --> 01:15:15,240
Speaker 7: Hill with three turnovers. Minnesota had lost eight straight against

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Speaker 7: Iowa since nineteen ninety nine. So something to celebrate the

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01:15:18,400 --> 01:15:23,000
Speaker 7: twelve ten victory Iowa on national TV because because they

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01:15:23,000 --> 01:15:26,840
Speaker 7: beat who exactly this year, they are six and two overall.

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01:15:26,920 --> 01:15:28,960
Speaker 3: But okay, I.

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Speaker 2: Just could I could I when the Big ten TV

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01:15:31,760 --> 01:15:34,240
Speaker 2: deal came out, I was I just remember saying that,

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01:15:34,560 --> 01:15:36,479
Speaker 2: and this was when the PAC twelve was still a conference.

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01:15:36,520 --> 01:15:39,759
Speaker 2: It's like, I can't believe somebody's paying hundreds of millions

1493
01:15:39,800 --> 01:15:42,880
Speaker 2: of dollars for the third best Big Ten game. Now,

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01:15:42,920 --> 01:15:45,800
Speaker 2: next year, now that we have Oregon in Washington, it

1495
01:15:45,880 --> 01:15:46,839
Speaker 2: might not be terrible.

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01:15:47,200 --> 01:15:51,320
Speaker 7: But for now you're getting clobbered by the competition in

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Speaker 7: that day part. If it's a Maryland again.

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Speaker 4: Look at the games that they've had this year.

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Speaker 7: Maryland, Michigan, State, the Iowa.

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Speaker 4: Today.

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01:15:59,360 --> 01:16:02,280
Speaker 7: My favorite Iowa was stat of the day from Associated Press.

1502
01:16:02,479 --> 01:16:04,599
Speaker 7: If you go back this is not a small sample.

1503
01:16:04,720 --> 01:16:06,840
Speaker 7: If you go back two and a half years now

1504
01:16:06,880 --> 01:16:10,760
Speaker 7: with Iowa football, they have more yards punting than they

1505
01:16:10,800 --> 01:16:14,280
Speaker 7: have yards on offense since the start of twenty twenty one.

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01:16:14,360 --> 01:16:16,360
Speaker 2: Did you see the stat last weekend when they played

1507
01:16:16,360 --> 01:16:18,760
Speaker 2: the women's basketball game, and it was like Caitlin Clark

1508
01:16:18,840 --> 01:16:23,519
Speaker 2: scored more today at the stadium, then Iowa's offense has

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01:16:23,520 --> 01:16:25,599
Speaker 2: in twenty seven straight home games or whatever.

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01:16:25,680 --> 01:16:27,680
Speaker 4: It was not at things not untrue. It's like that

1511
01:16:27,800 --> 01:16:32,240
Speaker 4: Nevada game tonight, there was more offense in the NLCS literally, Yes,

1512
01:16:32,280 --> 01:16:34,640
Speaker 4: it was six to one to six to nothing.

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01:16:34,400 --> 01:16:35,280
Speaker 3: For the Novata win.

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01:16:35,400 --> 01:16:39,519
Speaker 7: Yeah, Iowa scored ten points and lost tonight. They scored fifteen.

1515
01:16:39,640 --> 01:16:42,120
Speaker 7: Last week in a win they scored twenty in a

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01:16:42,160 --> 01:16:44,680
Speaker 7: win before they got shut out at Penn State this

1517
01:16:44,840 --> 01:16:48,439
Speaker 7: year and Iowa scored twenty in the win at Iowa State.

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01:16:48,520 --> 01:16:51,920
Speaker 7: But Iowa except for Sam Houston, I mean, that's the

1519
01:16:51,960 --> 01:16:53,960
Speaker 7: only other team on the list where you have more

1520
01:16:54,000 --> 01:16:58,960
Speaker 7: punting yards then you have offensive yards and asterisk Sam

1521
01:16:59,000 --> 01:17:02,640
Speaker 7: Houston just joins this year, so those stats don't go

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01:17:02,720 --> 01:17:03,720
Speaker 7: back two and a half years.

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01:17:03,760 --> 01:17:04,880
Speaker 3: And then you've got Nevada.

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01:17:04,880 --> 01:17:07,840
Speaker 7: If you love offense, I hope you're watching FS two. Tonight,

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01:17:08,200 --> 01:17:10,479
Speaker 7: Nevada had lost sixteen in a row. They won the

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01:17:10,479 --> 01:17:13,080
Speaker 7: six to nothing final against the Aztecs. The game had

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01:17:13,120 --> 01:17:18,719
Speaker 7: no touchdowns, seventeen penalties and twelve punts. Nevada had lost

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01:17:18,760 --> 01:17:21,760
Speaker 7: the sixteen straight and the streak started over a year

1529
01:17:21,760 --> 01:17:25,720
Speaker 7: ago with a home loss to Incarnate Word and then

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01:17:25,760 --> 01:17:28,400
Speaker 7: they got shut out at Iowa and then it just

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01:17:28,479 --> 01:17:30,920
Speaker 7: got worse after that. They went oh to eight in

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01:17:31,040 --> 01:17:34,680
Speaker 7: conference play that year. They were zero to six overall

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01:17:34,840 --> 01:17:39,679
Speaker 7: this season, including losses at home to Idaho and at

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01:17:39,760 --> 01:17:43,839
Speaker 7: Texas State. Let's put it in context. The Nevada opening

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01:17:43,880 --> 01:17:48,200
Speaker 7: game this year was at USC Nevada lost sixty six

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01:17:48,320 --> 01:17:52,200
Speaker 7: to fourteen. Tonight, they shut out San Diego State.

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01:17:52,280 --> 01:17:54,760
Speaker 2: Remember that that was the big game where everyone said, oh,

1538
01:17:55,040 --> 01:17:57,720
Speaker 2: USC's defense is fixed.

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01:17:57,720 --> 01:17:59,559
Speaker 7: Right because it was sixty six fourteen.

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01:18:00,160 --> 01:18:01,599
Speaker 3: I was like, can we let him?

1541
01:18:01,680 --> 01:18:03,400
Speaker 2: Can we see him play like a team with half

1542
01:18:03,400 --> 01:18:05,200
Speaker 2: of a pulse before we get a little too excited.

1543
01:18:05,240 --> 01:18:07,000
Speaker 7: Instead, they were playing a team that would wind up

1544
01:18:07,000 --> 01:18:09,880
Speaker 7: with a sixteen game losing streak, the Aztecs, who lose.

1545
01:18:10,520 --> 01:18:13,679
Speaker 7: And by the way, they played two nobodies to start

1546
01:18:13,720 --> 01:18:16,200
Speaker 7: and since then, San Diego State is one and five.

1547
01:18:16,280 --> 01:18:18,559
Speaker 7: The one win was at Hawaii last weekend in the

1548
01:18:18,600 --> 01:18:21,879
Speaker 7: late game. San Diego State has a safety for its quarterback.

1549
01:18:22,000 --> 01:18:24,439
Speaker 7: Just for the record today he had just over fifty

1550
01:18:24,520 --> 01:18:27,960
Speaker 7: yards rushing and under fifty yards passing for the game

1551
01:18:28,479 --> 01:18:32,519
Speaker 7: and a fumble as well. San Diego State falls. They

1552
01:18:32,560 --> 01:18:36,440
Speaker 7: do have four more Mountain West Conference games in November.

1553
01:18:36,479 --> 01:18:40,760
Speaker 7: They have no game next weekend. Miami played Clemson tonight's

1554
01:18:41,240 --> 01:18:43,960
Speaker 7: and that was hidden on the ACC network. Miami in

1555
01:18:44,000 --> 01:18:48,479
Speaker 7: double overtime beat him twenty eight to twenty. Also, we

1556
01:18:48,560 --> 01:18:51,160
Speaker 7: had Tulane winning against North Texas.

1557
01:18:51,200 --> 01:18:51,400
Speaker 4: Well.

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01:18:51,439 --> 01:18:55,519
Speaker 7: Air Force is ranked and undefeated, Tulane is ranked, and

1559
01:18:55,560 --> 01:18:57,680
Speaker 7: they were playing a North Texas team that's three and

1560
01:18:57,800 --> 01:19:00,600
Speaker 7: four that had already lost to cal To Floora International

1561
01:19:00,680 --> 01:19:03,759
Speaker 7: lost to Navy. Tulane blew a twenty eight to seven

1562
01:19:03,880 --> 01:19:06,840
Speaker 7: third quarter lead but eventually won thirty five twenty eight

1563
01:19:06,880 --> 01:19:09,880
Speaker 7: against North Texas. His quarterback Michael Pratt, had four total

1564
01:19:09,920 --> 01:19:12,080
Speaker 7: touchdowns two turnovers as well, but he had the go

1565
01:19:12,160 --> 01:19:14,479
Speaker 7: ahead TD run with about two and a half minutes left.

1566
01:19:14,840 --> 01:19:17,040
Speaker 7: And speaking of not much offense, I watched the Air

1567
01:19:17,040 --> 01:19:19,280
Speaker 7: Force at in Nevada at Navy game, and of course

1568
01:19:19,320 --> 01:19:22,519
Speaker 7: you've got two service academies, so they can be forgiven.

1569
01:19:22,600 --> 01:19:25,719
Speaker 7: But Navy as a team thirty five carries twenty two

1570
01:19:26,000 --> 01:19:30,200
Speaker 7: yards rushing, including four six. Navy had ten first downs,

1571
01:19:30,640 --> 01:19:34,120
Speaker 7: ten punts. Air Force was up seventeen to nothing till

1572
01:19:34,160 --> 01:19:36,240
Speaker 7: the final minute of the game. They're seven to zero now.

1573
01:19:36,600 --> 01:19:40,120
Speaker 7: Air Force for the game four quarters worth, four for

1574
01:19:40,240 --> 01:19:43,680
Speaker 7: five passing for one hundred and fifty one yards. They

1575
01:19:43,760 --> 01:19:46,280
Speaker 7: scored on a ninety four yard TV pass. They scored

1576
01:19:46,320 --> 01:19:49,320
Speaker 7: on a late pick six. It's only nine first downs,

1577
01:19:49,360 --> 01:19:51,120
Speaker 7: but they went on the road. These two teams on

1578
01:19:51,200 --> 01:19:55,120
Speaker 7: third down conversions combined were four for thirty. But it's

1579
01:19:55,160 --> 01:19:57,519
Speaker 7: a w for air Force and they'll be playing Army

1580
01:19:57,560 --> 01:19:58,880
Speaker 7: in a couple weeks in Denver.

1581
01:19:59,120 --> 01:20:01,880
Speaker 2: By the way team playoff next year, it feels as

1582
01:20:01,880 --> 01:20:04,880
Speaker 2: though the highest non Power five team will get in.

1583
01:20:04,920 --> 01:20:07,240
Speaker 2: That'd be cool if it was Air Force next year.

1584
01:20:07,800 --> 01:20:10,479
Speaker 2: But coming up, we react to the busy day this

1585
01:20:10,520 --> 01:20:12,360
Speaker 2: week in football Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 2: I want to get back to college football for a minute.

1598
01:20:55,200 --> 01:20:57,960
Speaker 2: We honestly really didn't talk much Ohio State, Penn State,

1599
01:20:57,960 --> 01:20:59,840
Speaker 2: and maybe we get to it for just a minute

1600
01:20:59,840 --> 01:21:01,960
Speaker 2: at the end of the segment, but I do think

1601
01:21:02,000 --> 01:21:04,400
Speaker 2: the story of the night comes from the La Coliseum.

1602
01:21:04,920 --> 01:21:07,680
Speaker 2: For people who are just joining US. USC lost a

1603
01:21:07,800 --> 01:21:10,480
Speaker 2: second straight game. This is really about the fourth, fourth,

1604
01:21:10,560 --> 01:21:12,439
Speaker 2: fifth week in a row that they have not looked good.

1605
01:21:13,000 --> 01:21:16,479
Speaker 2: Thirty four to thirty two was the final score, Utah

1606
01:21:16,560 --> 01:21:20,320
Speaker 2: with a walk off field goal as time expired. A

1607
01:21:20,320 --> 01:21:23,920
Speaker 2: couple notes here won the USC defense let them down again.

1608
01:21:25,080 --> 01:21:27,719
Speaker 2: Utah came into the game averaging three hundred and twenty

1609
01:21:27,800 --> 01:21:31,439
Speaker 2: one yards per game of total offense. Utah had four

1610
01:21:31,560 --> 01:21:34,160
Speaker 2: hundred and eighty two for the game, average close to

1611
01:21:34,280 --> 01:21:39,519
Speaker 2: five yards per carry in this game. And USC, you know,

1612
01:21:39,640 --> 01:21:41,519
Speaker 2: don't know what else to say. They had the lead,

1613
01:21:42,280 --> 01:21:45,080
Speaker 2: they were in position to win the game, needed one stop.

1614
01:21:45,160 --> 01:21:48,680
Speaker 2: There was a penalty that got Utah in range, but

1615
01:21:48,800 --> 01:21:54,400
Speaker 2: ultimately the game essentially really came down to the final possession.

1616
01:21:55,240 --> 01:22:00,320
Speaker 2: USC has what a second and fifteen Bryson bar Iarns

1617
01:22:00,360 --> 01:22:04,080
Speaker 2: picks up twenty six yards on the ground, which put

1618
01:22:04,120 --> 01:22:06,439
Speaker 2: them in field goal range. Utah was not in field

1619
01:22:06,439 --> 01:22:09,000
Speaker 2: goal range prior to that play. And so I want

1620
01:22:09,000 --> 01:22:10,559
Speaker 2: to talk about the game, but I also want to

1621
01:22:10,600 --> 01:22:13,320
Speaker 2: reference there. There was some interesting stuff after the game,

1622
01:22:14,400 --> 01:22:19,000
Speaker 2: as Lincoln Riley did not make any players available for

1623
01:22:19,720 --> 01:22:25,000
Speaker 2: the postgame press conferences. I believe I saw that. As

1624
01:22:25,120 --> 01:22:28,400
Speaker 2: far as anyone who has covered USC knows, this is

1625
01:22:28,479 --> 01:22:31,840
Speaker 2: the first time that they ever remember a situation where

1626
01:22:31,960 --> 01:22:34,560
Speaker 2: USC did not make a single player available for the

1627
01:22:34,600 --> 01:22:38,360
Speaker 2: postgame press conference. You know, listen, Lincoln Riley had a

1628
01:22:38,400 --> 01:22:41,960
Speaker 2: reputation when he got to USC. He's soft. His team

1629
01:22:42,040 --> 01:22:44,519
Speaker 2: is soft. The way he handles media is soft. The

1630
01:22:44,560 --> 01:22:47,519
Speaker 2: way he handles criticism is soft. We can get into

1631
01:22:47,520 --> 01:22:49,880
Speaker 2: the game, the results, what it all means. But at

1632
01:22:49,880 --> 01:22:53,320
Speaker 2: the end of the day, any criticism of Lincoln Riley

1633
01:22:53,400 --> 01:22:56,960
Speaker 2: coming into today I think is pretty justified, not only

1634
01:22:57,000 --> 01:22:59,160
Speaker 2: just because of the loss, but because of how he

1635
01:22:59,200 --> 01:23:00,400
Speaker 2: handled things after game.

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01:23:01,800 --> 01:23:06,639
Speaker 4: It's not a good look, and it's it's just weird

1637
01:23:06,680 --> 01:23:09,360
Speaker 4: because why would you not. I mean, it was a

1638
01:23:09,400 --> 01:23:11,800
Speaker 4: loss on the end on a field goal, when you

1639
01:23:11,840 --> 01:23:15,000
Speaker 4: guys came back from two touchdowns down and look like

1640
01:23:15,040 --> 01:23:17,679
Speaker 4: maybe you were actually going to pull it out because

1641
01:23:17,720 --> 01:23:20,360
Speaker 4: of the fourth quarter. It's not like you got embarrassed.

1642
01:23:21,120 --> 01:23:23,360
Speaker 4: You got beat in a close game against the team that,

1643
01:23:23,400 --> 01:23:26,200
Speaker 4: by the way, was higher rank than you were entering

1644
01:23:26,240 --> 01:23:28,760
Speaker 4: the game. I'm not trying to make excuses for the

1645
01:23:29,040 --> 01:23:31,240
Speaker 4: way the game ended. I'm just saying this is a

1646
01:23:31,280 --> 01:23:34,840
Speaker 4: weird one to pull everybody away from, like this isn't

1647
01:23:34,920 --> 01:23:38,280
Speaker 4: one where where on the surface, it would make sense

1648
01:23:38,280 --> 01:23:42,200
Speaker 4: why you wouldn't want people to talk unless you want

1649
01:23:42,760 --> 01:23:46,160
Speaker 4: no one to be able to ask a certain couple

1650
01:23:46,160 --> 01:23:49,639
Speaker 4: of questions, one about your quarterback and one about your

1651
01:23:49,640 --> 01:23:52,600
Speaker 4: head coach in his future. That's the only thing that

1652
01:23:52,600 --> 01:23:54,240
Speaker 4: could make sense. If you want to go back to

1653
01:23:54,880 --> 01:23:57,439
Speaker 4: what Dan Patrick kind of reported earlier that we talked

1654
01:23:57,479 --> 01:24:00,120
Speaker 4: about earlier in the show, at least from his sourceing

1655
01:24:00,160 --> 01:24:03,120
Speaker 4: about you know, Lincoln Robbie maybe shopping himself and Caleb

1656
01:24:03,160 --> 01:24:06,000
Speaker 4: Williams as a package deal to NFL teams in the offseason.

1657
01:24:06,560 --> 01:24:08,559
Speaker 4: Then you can start to get to, well, is that

1658
01:24:08,640 --> 01:24:10,200
Speaker 4: going to come up with? Something going to come up

1659
01:24:10,200 --> 01:24:13,479
Speaker 4: about is Caleb? Is Caleb going to have finished the season?

1660
01:24:13,560 --> 01:24:15,720
Speaker 4: All these questions, maybe you didn't want those to be

1661
01:24:15,800 --> 01:24:20,800
Speaker 4: asked right now. But if you're if the knock on

1662
01:24:20,840 --> 01:24:25,640
Speaker 4: you has been softness or inability to take tough questions,

1663
01:24:26,200 --> 01:24:30,479
Speaker 4: careful media control, all of that kind of thing, this

1664
01:24:30,640 --> 01:24:35,040
Speaker 4: is not going to do anything but reinforce those critiques

1665
01:24:35,080 --> 01:24:37,160
Speaker 4: of the program. And it's not like we forgot that

1666
01:24:37,200 --> 01:24:40,320
Speaker 4: you lost just because people didn't talk. After the game.

1667
01:24:40,400 --> 01:24:43,680
Speaker 4: In fact, it makes the loss mean even more and

1668
01:24:43,800 --> 01:24:47,360
Speaker 4: makes us now have botched or we had another plan

1669
01:24:47,439 --> 01:24:50,120
Speaker 4: to open the third hour and we said no, we

1670
01:24:50,200 --> 01:24:52,599
Speaker 4: got to do this now. We weren't going to do that,

1671
01:24:52,640 --> 01:24:55,479
Speaker 4: Lincoln because and it wouldn't have been anything that you

1672
01:24:55,520 --> 01:24:58,000
Speaker 4: would have said that probably would have changed our minds.

1673
01:24:58,000 --> 01:25:00,280
Speaker 4: But the fact that you said nothing, now we can

1674
01:25:00,280 --> 01:25:01,880
Speaker 4: go back and talk about the fact that you lost

1675
01:25:01,880 --> 01:25:05,120
Speaker 4: to Utah and then didn't talk about it afterwards, and

1676
01:25:04,720 --> 01:25:07,439
Speaker 4: that to me is not only bad optics, it's just

1677
01:25:07,800 --> 01:25:11,240
Speaker 4: it's not a sensible approach, and it actually puts a

1678
01:25:11,280 --> 01:25:14,480
Speaker 4: bigger spotlight on the fact that your team lost than otherwise.

1679
01:25:14,880 --> 01:25:17,639
Speaker 2: So one of the privileges of being in this time

1680
01:25:17,680 --> 01:25:20,080
Speaker 2: slot is we get to kind of have the conversations

1681
01:25:20,080 --> 01:25:23,160
Speaker 2: that everyone's gonna have on Monday and Tuesday right now.

1682
01:25:23,400 --> 01:25:25,240
Speaker 2: And so let's dive into it because I think those

1683
01:25:25,240 --> 01:25:27,800
Speaker 2: are the two questions. So I said it earlier in

1684
01:25:27,800 --> 01:25:32,799
Speaker 2: the show. I am somebody who listen. I love college sports.

1685
01:25:32,840 --> 01:25:35,240
Speaker 2: You know, I've largely made most of my career off

1686
01:25:35,280 --> 01:25:40,160
Speaker 2: of covering college football, college basketball, and I'm somebody that listen.

1687
01:25:40,600 --> 01:25:43,280
Speaker 2: I'm still old school believe in the team, this and that,

1688
01:25:43,479 --> 01:25:46,080
Speaker 2: you know the value of college sports and getting it edgy,

1689
01:25:46,200 --> 01:25:49,360
Speaker 2: all that stuff. I bring it up to say, I

1690
01:25:49,360 --> 01:25:53,240
Speaker 2: don't think I have ever advocated for a player to

1691
01:25:53,240 --> 01:25:56,000
Speaker 2: shut things down. Now, if they're not healthy, that's different.

1692
01:25:56,920 --> 01:25:59,880
Speaker 2: If they're not healthy, or if it's a bowl game

1693
01:26:00,040 --> 01:26:02,240
Speaker 2: that isn't for the college football playoff. I'm never going

1694
01:26:02,320 --> 01:26:07,639
Speaker 2: to criticize anybody. I can sit here and definitively say

1695
01:26:08,560 --> 01:26:10,840
Speaker 2: I think there is a very strong argument for Kayleb

1696
01:26:10,880 --> 01:26:12,840
Speaker 2: Williams to shut it down now. Caleb Williams has not

1697
01:26:12,880 --> 01:26:14,840
Speaker 2: been perfect the last couple weeks in his own right,

1698
01:26:14,960 --> 01:26:17,840
Speaker 2: but at the same time, the offensive line is getting

1699
01:26:17,880 --> 01:26:21,559
Speaker 2: him killed back there. The defense is letting him down

1700
01:26:21,600 --> 01:26:23,320
Speaker 2: time and time again. And I'll be honest, I think

1701
01:26:23,400 --> 01:26:26,080
Speaker 2: Lincoln Riley let him down today. They were running the

1702
01:26:26,080 --> 01:26:29,120
Speaker 2: football very effectively in the first half. And I don't

1703
01:26:29,120 --> 01:26:31,559
Speaker 2: know if Lincoln Riley just forgot half of his play

1704
01:26:31,600 --> 01:26:33,720
Speaker 2: sheet coming out of halftime, or whether he wanted to

1705
01:26:33,760 --> 01:26:37,799
Speaker 2: feature Caleb Williams, or whether whatever it was. I feel

1706
01:26:37,840 --> 01:26:40,559
Speaker 2: like his coach let him down. His offensive line has

1707
01:26:40,640 --> 01:26:43,360
Speaker 2: let him down, his defense has let him down. My

1708
01:26:43,439 --> 01:26:45,840
Speaker 2: whole thing is listen. I'm old school. Play for the team,

1709
01:26:45,920 --> 01:26:48,000
Speaker 2: play for the other eighty four guys in that locker room.

1710
01:26:48,520 --> 01:26:50,519
Speaker 2: But you don't have an obligation if you're going to

1711
01:26:50,560 --> 01:26:52,559
Speaker 2: be the number one pick in the draft, you do

1712
01:26:52,640 --> 01:26:56,040
Speaker 2: not have an obligation to carry a team that does

1713
01:26:56,080 --> 01:26:59,160
Speaker 2: not have your back in any way. So the floors yours,

1714
01:26:59,240 --> 01:27:02,000
Speaker 2: Jason should Is this a conversation that Caleb Williams and

1715
01:27:02,040 --> 01:27:04,559
Speaker 2: his dad? We know Caleb Williams dad likes the cameras,

1716
01:27:04,920 --> 01:27:07,720
Speaker 2: likes the microphones. You think this is a conversation they're

1717
01:27:07,720 --> 01:27:09,719
Speaker 2: gonna have behind the scenes over the next forty eight hours.

1718
01:27:09,800 --> 01:27:12,360
Speaker 4: I would be blown away if it wasn't.

1719
01:27:13,520 --> 01:27:13,680
Speaker 6: Now.

1720
01:27:13,680 --> 01:27:15,920
Speaker 4: I don't think that his team doesn't have his back.

1721
01:27:15,920 --> 01:27:17,559
Speaker 4: I don't think that that's the case.

1722
01:27:17,640 --> 01:27:19,880
Speaker 3: And I don't mean literally not, I not.

1723
01:27:19,920 --> 01:27:22,920
Speaker 4: I know what you're saying. Yeah, I was just gonna clarify,

1724
01:27:23,000 --> 01:27:25,960
Speaker 4: but generally I go back to what I said in

1725
01:27:26,000 --> 01:27:28,839
Speaker 4: the first hour, which is what exactly does Caleb Williams

1726
01:27:29,200 --> 01:27:34,320
Speaker 4: have to accomplish at USC Right now? He's already won

1727
01:27:34,360 --> 01:27:37,400
Speaker 4: the Heisman. He's not gonna win it this year. He

1728
01:27:37,520 --> 01:27:39,599
Speaker 4: had that shot. But over the last two weeks, we've

1729
01:27:39,640 --> 01:27:43,920
Speaker 4: seen that's probably evaporated. You're not going into college football playoff.

1730
01:27:43,960 --> 01:27:46,519
Speaker 4: You're probably not done losing this year, whether Caleb is

1731
01:27:46,520 --> 01:27:48,720
Speaker 4: the quarterback or not, because the defense is gonna give

1732
01:27:48,760 --> 01:27:51,360
Speaker 4: up a trillion points to a couple of these more

1733
01:27:51,400 --> 01:27:54,080
Speaker 4: prolific offenses that you're gonna face in the coming weeks.

1734
01:27:54,800 --> 01:27:57,080
Speaker 4: So you're not gonna win that. Maybe you could win

1735
01:27:57,120 --> 01:28:00,880
Speaker 4: the Maxwell, but who cares. You know, you've already done

1736
01:28:00,960 --> 01:28:04,240
Speaker 4: these things. You're not going to win a championship, So

1737
01:28:04,520 --> 01:28:07,719
Speaker 4: what are you playing for the possibility of maybe making

1738
01:28:07,720 --> 01:28:09,960
Speaker 4: a New Year's six game, which I don't even know

1739
01:28:10,000 --> 01:28:12,960
Speaker 4: if that's for sure at this stage. If they were

1740
01:28:12,960 --> 01:28:14,800
Speaker 4: to take another couple of losses and be a four

1741
01:28:14,880 --> 01:28:18,880
Speaker 4: loss team at that stage, I don't see the upside

1742
01:28:18,920 --> 01:28:22,719
Speaker 4: for Caleb Williams continuing to play. This isn't something where

1743
01:28:23,280 --> 01:28:27,080
Speaker 4: he came in and was a mercenary and said screw

1744
01:28:27,160 --> 01:28:30,720
Speaker 4: you to USC and you know, let their fans high

1745
01:28:30,760 --> 01:28:32,600
Speaker 4: and dry and all this. He was a dude that

1746
01:28:32,720 --> 01:28:36,000
Speaker 4: wasn't there, who transferred there under the new way college

1747
01:28:36,000 --> 01:28:38,160
Speaker 4: football is done. And what do we know about college

1748
01:28:38,160 --> 01:28:41,479
Speaker 4: football now because of the transfer portal, because of nil,

1749
01:28:41,600 --> 01:28:44,160
Speaker 4: because of all this it's become a lot more about

1750
01:28:44,200 --> 01:28:48,000
Speaker 4: the individual athlete. It's become a lot more about his brand.

1751
01:28:48,040 --> 01:28:52,040
Speaker 4: It's become a lot more about his future, about his income,

1752
01:28:52,320 --> 01:28:55,479
Speaker 4: about his decision making, and he has more authority than

1753
01:28:55,479 --> 01:28:58,200
Speaker 4: he's ever had before. And I mean any athlete at

1754
01:28:58,200 --> 01:29:02,080
Speaker 4: this stage, especially the time flight ones can control things

1755
01:29:02,080 --> 01:29:04,479
Speaker 4: that they used to. You know that just kind of

1756
01:29:04,560 --> 01:29:07,879
Speaker 4: wasn't a thing. So if ever there was a spot

1757
01:29:08,520 --> 01:29:12,800
Speaker 4: where I'm gonna advocate for it, I'm gonna openly say

1758
01:29:12,840 --> 01:29:16,400
Speaker 4: it right now, Caleb Williams should shut it down because

1759
01:29:16,400 --> 01:29:19,160
Speaker 4: there's nothing left for him to gain. But there is

1760
01:29:19,280 --> 01:29:23,120
Speaker 4: a heck of a lot, Aaron Torres, for Caleb Williams

1761
01:29:23,160 --> 01:29:27,080
Speaker 4: to lose over the rest of this season. If he's

1762
01:29:27,120 --> 01:29:28,920
Speaker 4: playing for a team that doesn't have a chance at

1763
01:29:28,920 --> 01:29:32,160
Speaker 4: a championship, he has no chance at the Heisman for

1764
01:29:32,240 --> 01:29:34,880
Speaker 4: the second chance. But every time he steps out there,

1765
01:29:35,040 --> 01:29:37,559
Speaker 4: he does have an opportunity to go behind an offensive

1766
01:29:37,600 --> 01:29:40,519
Speaker 4: line that's been rather woeful and get himself injured and

1767
01:29:40,560 --> 01:29:42,759
Speaker 4: potentially harm his long term future.

1768
01:29:43,000 --> 01:29:44,439
Speaker 2: One other note from that game, by the way, to

1769
01:29:44,520 --> 01:29:47,479
Speaker 2: Seger did just tell me after the game, Kyle Winningham

1770
01:29:47,560 --> 01:29:50,559
Speaker 2: did say that Cam rising has officially been shut down

1771
01:29:50,560 --> 01:29:50,840
Speaker 2: for the.

1772
01:29:50,760 --> 01:29:51,320
Speaker 3: Rest of the year.

1773
01:29:51,520 --> 01:29:55,360
Speaker 2: Really quickly, let me keep this conversation going. I'm gonna

1774
01:29:55,360 --> 01:29:57,799
Speaker 2: throw a little bit of a curveball at you during

1775
01:29:57,880 --> 01:29:58,320
Speaker 2: the game.

1776
01:29:59,240 --> 01:30:00,680
Speaker 3: The you know, the.

1777
01:30:00,600 --> 01:30:03,720
Speaker 2: Great research people here at Fox Sports put out a

1778
01:30:03,840 --> 01:30:08,880
Speaker 2: very interesting graphic. Caleb Williams now in twenty three starts

1779
01:30:09,280 --> 01:30:15,440
Speaker 2: versus non top twenty five teams, seventy percent completion percentage,

1780
01:30:15,560 --> 01:30:20,800
Speaker 2: seventy eight touchdown, seven interceptions, against five top twenty five

1781
01:30:20,840 --> 01:30:26,400
Speaker 2: teams in his career fifty one percent completion percentage six touchdowns,

1782
01:30:26,400 --> 01:30:31,000
Speaker 2: six interceptions. And assuming the team that has the first

1783
01:30:31,080 --> 01:30:33,080
Speaker 2: overall pick needs quarterbacks, So let's not live in a

1784
01:30:33,120 --> 01:30:36,280
Speaker 2: world where you know it's a team that's settled a quarterback.

1785
01:30:37,280 --> 01:30:39,639
Speaker 2: Is there anything that you've seen that makes you feel

1786
01:30:39,680 --> 01:30:42,040
Speaker 2: like maybe he shouldn't be the guy as that I'm

1787
01:30:42,080 --> 01:30:42,960
Speaker 2: on an overall pick.

1788
01:30:43,080 --> 01:30:47,880
Speaker 4: No, and those stats. I find those stats interesting, But

1789
01:30:47,920 --> 01:30:50,719
Speaker 4: I would also like to see the stats for most

1790
01:30:50,800 --> 01:30:55,160
Speaker 4: quarterbacks against bad opponents and good opponents. You would imagine

1791
01:30:55,160 --> 01:30:58,160
Speaker 4: there would be a discrepancy between completion percentage, Now that's

1792
01:30:58,400 --> 01:31:02,320
Speaker 4: a wide number, stand from seventy to fifty one, and

1793
01:31:02,400 --> 01:31:06,160
Speaker 4: that touchdown to interception ratio. Then all right, so let's

1794
01:31:06,200 --> 01:31:09,200
Speaker 4: suggest that there is some validity to those stats and

1795
01:31:09,280 --> 01:31:13,640
Speaker 4: there's there's a certain level of maybe overhype to Caleb Waives. Now,

1796
01:31:13,680 --> 01:31:18,320
Speaker 4: I'm just saying hypothetically, now if that's true, that, if

1797
01:31:18,320 --> 01:31:21,479
Speaker 4: that is true, and Caleb is aware of it, shut

1798
01:31:21,479 --> 01:31:24,160
Speaker 4: it down because you don't want to get exposed. If

1799
01:31:24,200 --> 01:31:28,639
Speaker 4: that's true, because you've got what Washington, Oregon. You've got

1800
01:31:28,720 --> 01:31:31,280
Speaker 4: those teams. You've got the teams that you're throwing fifty

1801
01:31:31,320 --> 01:31:34,879
Speaker 4: one percent against having six and six touchdown to interceptions against.

1802
01:31:35,160 --> 01:31:37,240
Speaker 4: Those are the teams that are remaining on the schedule,

1803
01:31:37,280 --> 01:31:39,840
Speaker 4: the easy stuffs out of the way, so that you

1804
01:31:39,960 --> 01:31:42,719
Speaker 4: really have nothing left to accomplish. As a matter of fact,

1805
01:31:43,000 --> 01:31:45,240
Speaker 4: not only could you potentially get hurt, but you could

1806
01:31:45,240 --> 01:31:47,960
Speaker 4: harm your stock because the lasting impression we're going to

1807
01:31:48,000 --> 01:31:51,719
Speaker 4: have of you is of maybe more mortal than we thought.

1808
01:31:52,160 --> 01:31:54,479
Speaker 4: But no, I still think he is I think he

1809
01:31:54,560 --> 01:31:56,800
Speaker 4: has all the goods. I think he has everything that

1810
01:31:56,880 --> 01:31:58,920
Speaker 4: you want. I think he's gonna be a superstar in

1811
01:31:58,960 --> 01:32:02,880
Speaker 4: the NFL. I find that I find those stats more

1812
01:32:03,000 --> 01:32:06,160
Speaker 4: interesting than potentially indicative of anything.

1813
01:32:06,240 --> 01:32:08,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, it is worth noting by the way, Drake made

1814
01:32:08,240 --> 01:32:10,920
Speaker 2: the projected number two overall pick. He took a loss

1815
01:32:11,200 --> 01:32:14,439
Speaker 2: this evening in a game where he did not look good.

1816
01:32:14,520 --> 01:32:17,559
Speaker 2: Or Sanders has has struggled, you know, after that hot start,

1817
01:32:17,600 --> 01:32:20,080
Speaker 2: So it's not as though somebody has totally emerged, by

1818
01:32:20,120 --> 01:32:22,679
Speaker 2: the way Michael Pennock struggled. While we're on area, Yeah,

1819
01:32:22,880 --> 01:32:25,040
Speaker 2: last one, Jason, before we get to break it, get

1820
01:32:25,080 --> 01:32:30,640
Speaker 2: back to the NFL Lincoln Riley. So we referenced it

1821
01:32:30,680 --> 01:32:32,880
Speaker 2: earlier in the segment. We referenced it earlier in the show.

1822
01:32:33,360 --> 01:32:35,720
Speaker 2: Our colleague Dan Patrick put out a report, or at

1823
01:32:35,800 --> 01:32:40,040
Speaker 2: least he said on these Fox Sports airwaves that Lincoln Riley,

1824
01:32:40,360 --> 01:32:44,320
Speaker 2: you know, maybe he's not I guess the way that

1825
01:32:44,600 --> 01:32:46,120
Speaker 2: Dan put it. I don't want to put words in

1826
01:32:46,160 --> 01:32:49,040
Speaker 2: his mouth, but essentially he's kind of letting it be

1827
01:32:49,200 --> 01:32:52,519
Speaker 2: known to whoever might be in position to draft Caleb Williams,

1828
01:32:52,560 --> 01:32:54,639
Speaker 2: and hey, you know, I might be available to come

1829
01:32:54,680 --> 01:32:57,960
Speaker 2: with them if if the circumstances are right. My question

1830
01:32:58,080 --> 01:33:02,240
Speaker 2: for you, like, are we sure? Like Like by the way,

1831
01:33:02,880 --> 01:33:05,439
Speaker 2: a year ago, six months ago, Lincoln Riley, the NFL

1832
01:33:05,479 --> 01:33:07,960
Speaker 2: head coach, would have been very intriguing to me, especially

1833
01:33:08,000 --> 01:33:12,000
Speaker 2: coming with Kayleb Williams. But I look at the situation

1834
01:33:12,120 --> 01:33:15,120
Speaker 2: that we find ourselves in right now. I says, year six,

1835
01:33:15,160 --> 01:33:17,920
Speaker 2: year seven, whatever of Lincoln Rally's time as a head coach,

1836
01:33:18,520 --> 01:33:22,439
Speaker 2: great quarterback developer, great offense develop you know, great developer

1837
01:33:22,439 --> 01:33:27,080
Speaker 2: of offense whatever. At the same time, his defenses have

1838
01:33:27,200 --> 01:33:30,400
Speaker 2: been a bizmoal for six, seven, eight years now. However

1839
01:33:30,439 --> 01:33:32,639
Speaker 2: long it's been as a head coach, nothing has changed.

1840
01:33:32,680 --> 01:33:36,679
Speaker 2: She's changed coordinators, it hasn't mattered. He's got his own

1841
01:33:36,760 --> 01:33:39,920
Speaker 2: guys in Alex Grinch. He brought Alex Grinch with him

1842
01:33:39,720 --> 01:33:42,200
Speaker 2: from Oklahoma. And that's not to say he would bring

1843
01:33:42,240 --> 01:33:44,200
Speaker 2: him to the NFL. But my point is he has

1844
01:33:44,200 --> 01:33:48,080
Speaker 2: proven incapable of finding the right defensive coordinator. And it's

1845
01:33:48,160 --> 01:33:50,120
Speaker 2: not as though if Kayleb Williams is as good as

1846
01:33:50,160 --> 01:33:53,519
Speaker 2: all the experts think that he's the only one that

1847
01:33:53,600 --> 01:33:55,120
Speaker 2: can get the most out of Kaleb Williams. And by

1848
01:33:55,160 --> 01:33:56,320
Speaker 2: the way, I don't think he's getting the most out

1849
01:33:56,320 --> 01:33:59,640
Speaker 2: of Kayla Williams this year. I'll tell you, I know

1850
01:33:59,760 --> 01:34:02,639
Speaker 2: he's maybe, according to Dan Patrick, kind of selling, Hey,

1851
01:34:02,680 --> 01:34:04,680
Speaker 2: me and Caleb could be a package deal. Imagine what

1852
01:34:04,680 --> 01:34:07,160
Speaker 2: we could do well. I'm seeing what they're doing at

1853
01:34:07,160 --> 01:34:09,400
Speaker 2: this level and it's a little bit underwhelming. I'm not

1854
01:34:09,479 --> 01:34:11,880
Speaker 2: sure that even if I was in position to draft

1855
01:34:11,920 --> 01:34:14,200
Speaker 2: Caleb Williams, that Lincoln Riley would be the guy that

1856
01:34:14,200 --> 01:34:15,200
Speaker 2: I would want to coach him.

1857
01:34:15,320 --> 01:34:17,720
Speaker 4: Yeah. I think that we talked about that earlier and

1858
01:34:17,920 --> 01:34:20,200
Speaker 4: I agreed with you then, and I definitely agree with

1859
01:34:20,240 --> 01:34:25,360
Speaker 4: you right now that it feels more like Lincoln is

1860
01:34:25,360 --> 01:34:29,240
Speaker 4: starting to see Caleb as somebody he needs, much more

1861
01:34:29,280 --> 01:34:32,080
Speaker 4: so than Caleb would need Lincoln Riley in this scenario.

1862
01:34:32,160 --> 01:34:35,120
Speaker 4: And I just feel like the only comparison that I

1863
01:34:35,160 --> 01:34:37,120
Speaker 4: have for Lincoln Riley right now. Now. I know we've

1864
01:34:37,160 --> 01:34:39,760
Speaker 4: seen a lot of offensive head coaches that have had

1865
01:34:39,800 --> 01:34:42,280
Speaker 4: some defensive struggles and things like this, the teams that

1866
01:34:42,400 --> 01:34:45,320
Speaker 4: generally outscore other ones but can't stop anybody. I mean,

1867
01:34:45,360 --> 01:34:49,120
Speaker 4: that was the Big Twelve as an entire conference for

1868
01:34:49,360 --> 01:34:53,320
Speaker 4: much of this century so far. But Lincoln Riley to

1869
01:34:53,360 --> 01:34:57,559
Speaker 4: me is Mike d'antni. He's a guy who goes to

1870
01:34:57,560 --> 01:35:00,080
Speaker 4: Phoenix and his guys score a trading points and they

1871
01:35:00,120 --> 01:35:05,280
Speaker 4: don't ever even make a championship game because they just

1872
01:35:05,320 --> 01:35:09,599
Speaker 4: don't play defense. And it never changes and that knock

1873
01:35:09,680 --> 01:35:12,759
Speaker 4: was there for the Warriors, and no, they actually played defense.

1874
01:35:12,840 --> 01:35:15,560
Speaker 4: Klay Thompson is the heck of a defender. Andre Iguodala

1875
01:35:15,720 --> 01:35:18,280
Speaker 4: sawid defender. They would bring somebody in on the inside.

1876
01:35:18,320 --> 01:35:20,000
Speaker 4: Of course, Draymond Green, we know what he can do

1877
01:35:20,040 --> 01:35:22,640
Speaker 4: on the inside. But Mike D'Antoni, you would bring him

1878
01:35:22,680 --> 01:35:24,840
Speaker 4: in to the Knicks, to the Lakers, whatever. And it

1879
01:35:24,920 --> 01:35:27,439
Speaker 4: was going to be different this time, but it was

1880
01:35:27,479 --> 01:35:31,040
Speaker 4: still the same. It was still the same crazy fast offense.

1881
01:35:31,080 --> 01:35:33,080
Speaker 4: It scored a ton of points, it was fun to watch,

1882
01:35:33,400 --> 01:35:34,840
Speaker 4: and then on the other side, it was like it

1883
01:35:34,840 --> 01:35:38,040
Speaker 4: didn't even exist. It didn't matter. Over and over again.

1884
01:35:38,080 --> 01:35:40,720
Speaker 4: Mike d'antoni's a good coach, but Mike D'Antoni was a

1885
01:35:40,760 --> 01:35:42,880
Speaker 4: guy that was fatally flawed and it couldn't be changed.

1886
01:35:42,880 --> 01:35:45,719
Speaker 4: Now it's a different sport. And that's why I will

1887
01:35:45,760 --> 01:35:51,000
Speaker 4: bring Lincoln Riley potentially into my organization along with Kayleb Williams.

1888
01:35:51,040 --> 01:35:53,639
Speaker 4: If if that was you know, if we just treat

1889
01:35:53,680 --> 01:35:56,719
Speaker 4: this as a real life scenario. But I'm not letting

1890
01:35:56,800 --> 01:35:58,800
Speaker 4: him pick his own DC because he's been doing that

1891
01:35:58,840 --> 01:36:01,519
Speaker 4: now for years and it hasn't worked. I'm gonna pick that.

1892
01:36:01,560 --> 01:36:03,480
Speaker 4: We're gonna I'm gonna give him a crop of candidates

1893
01:36:03,720 --> 01:36:08,040
Speaker 4: or whoever he selects. Whoever I have helping me make

1894
01:36:08,080 --> 01:36:11,559
Speaker 4: that decision is going to have to approve that. So

1895
01:36:11,600 --> 01:36:14,440
Speaker 4: there's gonna be some changes in the level of authority

1896
01:36:14,479 --> 01:36:17,320
Speaker 4: that Lincoln Rowy has if I'm considering him for an

1897
01:36:17,439 --> 01:36:18,080
Speaker 4: NFL job.

1898
01:36:18,560 --> 01:36:21,719
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1920
01:37:34,439 --> 01:37:35,120
Speaker 2: Bowl every year.

1921
01:37:35,400 --> 01:37:35,720
Speaker 6: Mm hm.

1922
01:37:36,320 --> 01:37:38,439
Speaker 3: They are right behind the Santa Anita racetrack as well.

1923
01:37:38,479 --> 01:37:39,240
Speaker 3: So make sure to get.

1924
01:37:39,160 --> 01:37:42,599
Speaker 2: Your tickets at Breeders Cup dot com for the races

1925
01:37:42,640 --> 01:37:46,200
Speaker 2: November third and fourth. All right, Jason, So, by the way,

1926
01:37:46,240 --> 01:37:48,880
Speaker 2: I should mention I've been doing a terrible job of this.

1927
01:37:49,680 --> 01:37:52,000
Speaker 2: We do have a late game that is getting interesting.

1928
01:37:52,680 --> 01:37:56,280
Speaker 2: Like I need to keep America updated. Washington and Arizona

1929
01:37:56,280 --> 01:37:59,640
Speaker 2: State are playing in Seattle. Washington has just kicked a

1930
01:37:59,720 --> 01:38:01,400
Speaker 2: feel goal to make the score.

1931
01:38:02,080 --> 01:38:03,240
Speaker 3: Are you ready for this?

1932
01:38:03,360 --> 01:38:09,639
Speaker 2: America seven to six Washington, which was the number one

1933
01:38:09,840 --> 01:38:13,400
Speaker 2: pass offense in all of college football coming into today,

1934
01:38:13,880 --> 01:38:16,880
Speaker 2: a team that, oh, by the way, coming into the

1935
01:38:16,960 --> 01:38:22,400
Speaker 2: afternoon was averaging forty five points per game. Has just

1936
01:38:22,520 --> 01:38:25,040
Speaker 2: kicked a field goal to cut the lead to seven

1937
01:38:25,080 --> 01:38:29,960
Speaker 2: to six. Arizona State up on Washington about twelve minutes

1938
01:38:30,000 --> 01:38:32,240
Speaker 2: to go in that game, the fifth ranked Washington Huskies.

1939
01:38:32,280 --> 01:38:34,600
Speaker 2: We will keep you updated as time goes on. With

1940
01:38:34,720 --> 01:38:38,479
Speaker 2: that said, though, as we do every time around this time,

1941
01:38:39,320 --> 01:38:41,439
Speaker 2: every week, I should say, do you want to make

1942
01:38:41,479 --> 01:38:43,960
Speaker 2: some NFL picks? Talk about the big games? Lorraina, give

1943
01:38:44,000 --> 01:38:46,200
Speaker 2: us some music, Brandon, what is our first game?

1944
01:38:46,600 --> 01:38:47,280
Speaker 3: All right, guys?

1945
01:38:47,320 --> 01:38:48,960
Speaker 9: Great working with you guys again, by the way, so

1946
01:38:49,320 --> 01:38:51,400
Speaker 9: working with you, Brandon, I like working with you both.

1947
01:38:51,479 --> 01:38:53,160
Speaker 3: That got Pat. I hope you never go Oh oh,

1948
01:38:53,200 --> 01:38:55,240
Speaker 3: past just showed up. Okay, Oh hey, Pat, I.

1949
01:38:55,240 --> 01:38:55,960
Speaker 4: Just I see there.

1950
01:38:56,000 --> 01:38:56,559
Speaker 3: Oh sorry.

1951
01:38:56,800 --> 01:38:57,120
Speaker 4: All right.

1952
01:38:57,160 --> 01:38:59,439
Speaker 9: Let's kick it off with the Chargers, who are coming

1953
01:38:59,479 --> 01:39:02,000
Speaker 9: off a tough Monday night loss. They're going on the

1954
01:39:02,080 --> 01:39:04,760
Speaker 9: road to face the Kansas City Chiefs, who have been

1955
01:39:04,880 --> 01:39:08,400
Speaker 9: struggling a little this year, not as offensively explosive as

1956
01:39:08,439 --> 01:39:12,839
Speaker 9: they've been in the past. Kansas City's favored by five. Jason,

1957
01:39:12,880 --> 01:39:14,080
Speaker 9: you want to start with this one?

1958
01:39:14,479 --> 01:39:18,439
Speaker 4: Yeah. So earlier Torres, you asked, are the Jets good?

1959
01:39:19,120 --> 01:39:21,160
Speaker 4: And I was going to ask a follow up question

1960
01:39:21,240 --> 01:39:22,760
Speaker 4: we ran out of time in this segment. I was

1961
01:39:22,760 --> 01:39:24,439
Speaker 4: going to say, would you rather be a Jets fan

1962
01:39:24,560 --> 01:39:27,640
Speaker 4: or a Chargers fan right now? And the answer is

1963
01:39:27,680 --> 01:39:29,800
Speaker 4: a Jets fan because I think the Chargers are good

1964
01:39:30,640 --> 01:39:32,320
Speaker 4: and I don't think they have a head coach that

1965
01:39:32,360 --> 01:39:34,040
Speaker 4: they should have brought back, and I think we know

1966
01:39:34,120 --> 01:39:37,439
Speaker 4: that now, and their quarterbacks not even playing all world.

1967
01:39:37,840 --> 01:39:41,760
Speaker 4: He's made a couple of mistakes as of late. They're

1968
01:39:41,920 --> 01:39:44,360
Speaker 4: not a very good football team. They're just not and

1969
01:39:44,400 --> 01:39:46,680
Speaker 4: this is not a good matchup for them. Even though

1970
01:39:46,720 --> 01:39:49,040
Speaker 4: this on paper is still appetizing and we know how

1971
01:39:49,040 --> 01:39:52,000
Speaker 4: good Justin Herbert can be, the Chargers seem kind of

1972
01:39:52,040 --> 01:39:54,879
Speaker 4: broken and fatally flawed. So give me the Chiefs first.

1973
01:39:55,880 --> 01:39:58,160
Speaker 4: But the Chargers to me are a team that is

1974
01:39:58,200 --> 01:39:59,599
Speaker 4: trending in the wrong direction.

1975
01:40:00,120 --> 01:40:00,400
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1976
01:40:00,439 --> 01:40:02,360
Speaker 2: So, first of all, I mean, I don't have any

1977
01:40:02,520 --> 01:40:06,160
Speaker 2: super unique takes on this one other than that, you know,

1978
01:40:06,240 --> 01:40:08,599
Speaker 2: listen at Brandon just referenced that he's one hundred percent right.

1979
01:40:08,640 --> 01:40:11,040
Speaker 2: The Chiefs offense is not the same that it's been.

1980
01:40:12,000 --> 01:40:14,479
Speaker 2: But I just see no reason to think that the Chargers,

1981
01:40:14,479 --> 01:40:16,840
Speaker 2: and I know they've historically played the Chiefs pretty tough.

1982
01:40:17,160 --> 01:40:19,479
Speaker 2: I just don't see any reason on a short week

1983
01:40:19,640 --> 01:40:22,479
Speaker 2: when Kansas City got extra time off because they played

1984
01:40:22,479 --> 01:40:24,760
Speaker 2: on Thursday night, that they're going to have any sort

1985
01:40:24,760 --> 01:40:27,720
Speaker 2: of success. I'll tell you this, you know, I don't

1986
01:40:27,760 --> 01:40:30,479
Speaker 2: think a loss here cost Brandon Staley's job, no matter

1987
01:40:30,479 --> 01:40:33,280
Speaker 2: how bad it is. Next two weeks Bears and Jets.

1988
01:40:33,840 --> 01:40:35,960
Speaker 2: We just talked about the Jets. I get it, they're

1989
01:40:35,960 --> 01:40:38,120
Speaker 2: a good story. You don't go to and zero in

1990
01:40:38,160 --> 01:40:40,160
Speaker 2: those games. Brandon Staley should not be your head coach

1991
01:40:40,200 --> 01:40:42,800
Speaker 2: coming out of there, But give me the Chiefs to win.

1992
01:40:43,080 --> 01:40:46,120
Speaker 2: I think it might even get ugly, even though the

1993
01:40:46,160 --> 01:40:47,400
Speaker 2: Chiefs offense has struggled.

1994
01:40:47,880 --> 01:40:48,200
Speaker 4: All right.

1995
01:40:48,240 --> 01:40:51,000
Speaker 9: I don't think I've said this sentence before in my existence,

1996
01:40:51,080 --> 01:40:54,720
Speaker 9: but the hottest team in the NFL, the Detroit.

1997
01:40:54,400 --> 01:40:57,200
Speaker 3: Lions by your knee, cap feby.

1998
01:40:57,040 --> 01:41:00,120
Speaker 9: Are on the road to take on the Baltimore Ravens

1999
01:41:00,200 --> 01:41:03,240
Speaker 9: this season, who have been They've been good, Aaron, you

2000
01:41:03,240 --> 01:41:05,679
Speaker 9: want to start with this one. Baltimore is favored by three.

2001
01:41:06,360 --> 01:41:06,559
Speaker 6: Yeah.

2002
01:41:06,640 --> 01:41:08,040
Speaker 2: What I would say is for a couple of things.

2003
01:41:08,040 --> 01:41:10,639
Speaker 2: First of all, Baltimore is obviously coming off the trip

2004
01:41:10,680 --> 01:41:14,360
Speaker 2: overseas last week. But I'll just say this, the Lions

2005
01:41:14,520 --> 01:41:17,280
Speaker 2: and I I, you know, I give myself a little

2006
01:41:17,280 --> 01:41:18,640
Speaker 2: bit of credit. I'm not trying to pat myself on

2007
01:41:18,680 --> 01:41:20,880
Speaker 2: the back. But I remember watching that game in Week

2008
01:41:20,920 --> 01:41:24,240
Speaker 2: one against Kansas City. I was like, they got dudes everywhere,

2009
01:41:24,280 --> 01:41:28,719
Speaker 2: Like this isn't a feel good you know, uh, you know, Oh,

2010
01:41:28,760 --> 01:41:31,120
Speaker 2: it's the Lions. They're so cute. Maybe they'll make the playoffs.

2011
01:41:31,160 --> 01:41:34,120
Speaker 2: It's like, no, they got dudes everywhere. And oh, by

2012
01:41:34,160 --> 01:41:37,440
Speaker 2: the way, last week they got back Jamison Williams from suspension.

2013
01:41:37,479 --> 01:41:41,280
Speaker 2: He has a touchdown catch. I just think the Lions

2014
01:41:41,320 --> 01:41:43,840
Speaker 2: are really, really, really good. So listen, I think I

2015
01:41:43,920 --> 01:41:47,720
Speaker 2: think Baltimore is good too, but coming back from overseas,

2016
01:41:48,360 --> 01:41:51,160
Speaker 2: give me the Lions to go on the road and

2017
01:41:51,240 --> 01:41:51,720
Speaker 2: get the win.

2018
01:41:53,680 --> 01:41:56,559
Speaker 4: I need to look at the weather because Baltimore. If

2019
01:41:56,600 --> 01:41:59,120
Speaker 4: the weather's bad in Baltimore, that's gonna be a tough

2020
01:41:59,120 --> 01:42:01,360
Speaker 4: place to play. It looks like sixty four degrees, so

2021
01:42:01,400 --> 01:42:03,559
Speaker 4: that's not gonna be too bad at least looking at

2022
01:42:03,560 --> 01:42:06,719
Speaker 4: it right now. You're right about the Lions. We both

2023
01:42:06,880 --> 01:42:09,840
Speaker 4: said this coming into the year. This is not a fluke.

2024
01:42:09,920 --> 01:42:11,840
Speaker 4: This is a really good football team. They're five to

2025
01:42:11,960 --> 01:42:15,040
Speaker 4: one and deserving of that five and one record, and

2026
01:42:15,080 --> 01:42:18,519
Speaker 4: they're gonna continue to inflict punishment going on the road

2027
01:42:18,560 --> 01:42:21,439
Speaker 4: to Baltimore. Baltimore hadn't looked good the last couple of games.

2028
01:42:22,479 --> 01:42:26,760
Speaker 4: Something doesn't seem quite right at present with them, and

2029
01:42:26,840 --> 01:42:29,120
Speaker 4: it is tough to come back from London not have

2030
01:42:29,200 --> 01:42:31,920
Speaker 4: a buy and immediately have to play against maybe, as

2031
01:42:31,920 --> 01:42:34,560
Speaker 4: Brandon said, the hottest team in the league. I just

2032
01:42:34,640 --> 01:42:36,760
Speaker 4: kind of look at Detroit and say, this is a

2033
01:42:36,760 --> 01:42:39,040
Speaker 4: tough one to go on the road. If the weather

2034
01:42:39,240 --> 01:42:44,800
Speaker 4: is good, I'm still taking Baltimore. I think going to Baltimore,

2035
01:42:45,040 --> 01:42:47,679
Speaker 4: I think that's gonna be a different version of Jared Goff.

2036
01:42:47,720 --> 01:42:50,280
Speaker 4: They've got Gibbs coming back off the injury. I just

2037
01:42:50,320 --> 01:42:52,320
Speaker 4: think this is a game you drop and you end

2038
01:42:52,360 --> 01:42:54,120
Speaker 4: up with two five and two teams at the end

2039
01:42:54,120 --> 01:42:56,920
Speaker 4: of this, both of them looking towards the postseason.

2040
01:42:57,479 --> 01:43:00,000
Speaker 2: It is worth noting, obviously, the second straight road game

2041
01:43:00,080 --> 01:43:03,400
Speaker 2: for Detroit and the third and four games for Dan

2042
01:43:03,439 --> 01:43:05,920
Speaker 2: Campbell's club tell you what. Jason will come back and

2043
01:43:05,960 --> 01:43:08,160
Speaker 2: we will talk about some of the other big games

2044
01:43:08,200 --> 01:43:13,360
Speaker 2: on Sunday, including that mega showdown between Miami and Philadelphia.

2045
01:43:13,800 --> 01:43:16,519
Speaker 2: But before we do though, final time for our show

2046
01:43:16,560 --> 01:43:18,800
Speaker 2: this evening, Steve de Seger, what's trending.

2047
01:43:19,600 --> 01:43:20,919
Speaker 3: While you're talking NFL?

2048
01:43:21,080 --> 01:43:25,400
Speaker 7: A reminder that the Sunday night game is Philadelphia hosting Miami,

2049
01:43:25,479 --> 01:43:28,360
Speaker 7: and the Eagles elevated wide receiver Julio Jones to the

2050
01:43:28,400 --> 01:43:31,479
Speaker 7: active roster for that he just signed on Tuesday. Dolphins

2051
01:43:31,560 --> 01:43:34,559
Speaker 7: running back Jeff Wilson was activated off the injured reserve.

2052
01:43:34,840 --> 01:43:37,519
Speaker 7: Forty nine Ers wide receiver Deebo Samuel will miss a

2053
01:43:37,600 --> 01:43:40,120
Speaker 7: couple of weeks with a shoulder fracture and tackled Trent

2054
01:43:40,160 --> 01:43:43,320
Speaker 7: Williams is doubtful for Monday night at Minnesota, but San

2055
01:43:43,360 --> 01:43:46,720
Speaker 7: Francisco running back Christian McCaffrey is called questionable with his

2056
01:43:46,760 --> 01:43:50,519
Speaker 7: oblique injury. He did return to limited practice today. There

2057
01:43:50,520 --> 01:43:53,439
Speaker 7: are six teams on a bye this week. We will

2058
01:43:53,479 --> 01:43:57,120
Speaker 7: get Raiders at Chicago tomorrow, with Brian Hoyer starting at

2059
01:43:57,200 --> 01:44:00,080
Speaker 7: quarterback for Las Vegas as Jimmy Garoppolo's out with a

2060
01:44:00,080 --> 01:44:03,479
Speaker 7: add back. Rookie Tyson Bagent will start for the Bears

2061
01:44:03,520 --> 01:44:06,960
Speaker 7: as quarterback Justin Fields is out with a dislocated thumb.

2062
01:44:07,360 --> 01:44:10,479
Speaker 7: Running Back for the Lions, Jamier Gibbs returns Sunday from

2063
01:44:10,520 --> 01:44:14,599
Speaker 7: the hamstring injury. Detroit's at Baltimore on Fox TV should

2064
01:44:14,640 --> 01:44:18,320
Speaker 7: be windy. Lions running back David Montgomery with the rib injury,

2065
01:44:18,720 --> 01:44:19,320
Speaker 7: is out again.

2066
01:44:19,400 --> 01:44:20,040
Speaker 4: By the way.

2067
01:44:19,960 --> 01:44:23,360
Speaker 7: NFL's trade bell deadline less than two weeks away. The

2068
01:44:23,360 --> 01:44:27,479
Speaker 7: Steelers activated wide receiver Deontay Johnson off IR, but placed

2069
01:44:27,479 --> 01:44:31,440
Speaker 7: tight end Pat Fryarmouth on IR. The Rams host Pittsburgh

2070
01:44:31,439 --> 01:44:34,280
Speaker 7: on Sunday. Rams running back Kyron Williams was placed on

2071
01:44:34,360 --> 01:44:38,320
Speaker 7: injured reserve. Running back Darryl Henderson was elevated to the roster,

2072
01:44:38,400 --> 01:44:41,679
Speaker 7: and the Cardinals activated safety Buddha Baker off injured reserve

2073
01:44:41,760 --> 01:44:46,920
Speaker 7: for Tomorrow's game at Seattle. Speaking of Seattle pack twelve

2074
01:44:46,960 --> 01:44:50,040
Speaker 7: after dark, I'm gonna miss this number five. Washington is

2075
01:44:50,120 --> 01:44:54,200
Speaker 7: trailing at home seven to six to Arizona State with

2076
01:44:54,400 --> 01:44:57,960
Speaker 7: under ten minutes to go. Arizona State. That is one

2077
01:44:58,120 --> 01:45:01,679
Speaker 7: and five this year. The Washington Huskies on the ground

2078
01:45:01,720 --> 01:45:05,479
Speaker 7: have twelve carries just fifteen yards, and they got most

2079
01:45:05,479 --> 01:45:08,680
Speaker 7: of that yardage on one of the carries. Washington has

2080
01:45:08,720 --> 01:45:13,719
Speaker 7: committed four turnovers, three by their Heisman candidate quarterback Michael Pennix.

2081
01:45:14,000 --> 01:45:17,400
Speaker 7: The other late game has well now it has freshman

2082
01:45:17,479 --> 01:45:20,160
Speaker 7: Dante Moore at quarterback. Now that it's a blowout early

2083
01:45:20,200 --> 01:45:23,599
Speaker 7: fourth quarter, UCLA leads at Stanford forty two to seven.

2084
01:45:24,120 --> 01:45:26,680
Speaker 7: More is in the game after Ethan Garber started, had

2085
01:45:26,720 --> 01:45:29,720
Speaker 7: two hundred and forty yards passing in two touchdowns. Stanford

2086
01:45:29,760 --> 01:45:34,240
Speaker 7: on the ground fourteen carries nineteen yards. Clemson is two

2087
01:45:34,320 --> 01:45:37,600
Speaker 7: and three in the ACC after losing in double overtime

2088
01:45:37,600 --> 01:45:40,760
Speaker 7: at Miami tonight and the Hurricane starting quarterback Tyler Van

2089
01:45:40,840 --> 01:45:43,720
Speaker 7: Dyke was out due to injuries. Also in the ACC,

2090
01:45:43,840 --> 01:45:46,720
Speaker 7: Boston College scored three touchdowns in the fourth quarter in

2091
01:45:46,760 --> 01:45:50,240
Speaker 7: a win at Georgia Tech. Wake Forest beat pitched. They're

2092
01:45:50,280 --> 01:45:53,240
Speaker 7: each one and three in the ACC, and you had

2093
01:45:53,320 --> 01:45:56,080
Speaker 7: number two Michigan winning again eight o the record forty

2094
01:45:56,160 --> 01:45:59,879
Speaker 7: nine to nothing the final at Michigan State. Michigan's defense

2095
01:46:00,040 --> 01:46:04,000
Speaker 7: this year has allowed only five touchdowns. Michigan's defense has

2096
01:46:04,040 --> 01:46:08,160
Speaker 7: scored four touchdowns. AP put out a list of teams

2097
01:46:08,439 --> 01:46:10,880
Speaker 7: that at this point of a college football season this

2098
01:46:11,000 --> 01:46:14,280
Speaker 7: century have allowed only seven points a game so far.

2099
01:46:14,479 --> 01:46:17,559
Speaker 7: It's Georgia and Alabama a couple of years ago, and

2100
01:46:17,640 --> 01:46:21,160
Speaker 7: now Michigan. They've allowed actually six points per game. Tonight's

2101
01:46:21,160 --> 01:46:24,479
Speaker 7: result was one of the most lopsided shutouts in the

2102
01:46:24,520 --> 01:46:28,040
Speaker 7: series history of Michigan against Michigan State to the largest

2103
01:46:28,160 --> 01:46:31,400
Speaker 7: shutout since nineteen forty seven in fact. And then you

2104
01:46:31,439 --> 01:46:33,800
Speaker 7: had number ten North Carolina, which was six and zero

2105
01:46:33,800 --> 01:46:37,559
Speaker 7: losing at home to Virginia thirty one to twenty seven.

2106
01:46:37,640 --> 01:46:41,000
Speaker 7: The athletic with a great thing to point out, whoever's

2107
01:46:41,040 --> 01:46:43,599
Speaker 7: ranked number ten in the AP pole has now lost

2108
01:46:43,600 --> 01:46:46,480
Speaker 7: four games in a row. Wow, it was North Carolina

2109
01:46:46,560 --> 01:46:49,360
Speaker 7: tonight at home. USC was number ten when they got

2110
01:46:49,439 --> 01:46:52,320
Speaker 7: killed at Notre Dame last weekend. Notre Dame was number

2111
01:46:52,320 --> 01:46:55,559
Speaker 7: ten right before that lost to Louisville, and Utah was

2112
01:46:55,640 --> 01:46:59,040
Speaker 7: number ten before that and lost to Oregon State. Utah

2113
01:46:59,080 --> 01:47:01,599
Speaker 7: with the thrilling when it USC tonight, but they did

2114
01:47:01,680 --> 01:47:05,160
Speaker 7: formally announce that starting quarterback Cam Rising, who's been to

2115
01:47:05,200 --> 01:47:07,240
Speaker 7: the Rose Bowl with them in the last couple of years,

2116
01:47:07,320 --> 01:47:09,760
Speaker 7: has not played all this season, will be shut down

2117
01:47:09,800 --> 01:47:12,160
Speaker 7: for the rest of the year after his injury from

2118
01:47:12,240 --> 01:47:14,160
Speaker 7: the Rose Bowl. As he pointed out, it was not

2119
01:47:14,320 --> 01:47:18,320
Speaker 7: just a torn acl torn meniscus, torn mcl et cetera.

2120
01:47:19,240 --> 01:47:21,320
Speaker 7: Utah won it's game thirty four to thirty two at

2121
01:47:21,360 --> 01:47:23,960
Speaker 7: the LA Coliseum on a thirty eight yard field goal

2122
01:47:24,000 --> 01:47:24,840
Speaker 7: on the final play.

2123
01:47:24,880 --> 01:47:25,960
Speaker 3: And can I point out that.

2124
01:47:26,040 --> 01:47:30,120
Speaker 7: USC missed two two point passes in the fourth quarter

2125
01:47:30,520 --> 01:47:33,760
Speaker 7: and lost by two points. This reminds me of how

2126
01:47:33,800 --> 01:47:37,120
Speaker 7: Michigan lost at home in that famous game against Appalachian State,

2127
01:47:37,160 --> 01:47:40,479
Speaker 7: went for two twice, missed it lost by two.

2128
01:47:40,840 --> 01:47:43,639
Speaker 2: We have an epidemic in this country of coaches choosing

2129
01:47:43,680 --> 01:47:46,439
Speaker 2: to go for two for no particular reason, way too early. Okay,

2130
01:47:46,479 --> 01:47:49,360
Speaker 2: that's the unspoken epidemic that nobody's talking.

2131
01:47:49,400 --> 01:47:52,040
Speaker 7: You want math, that's the mask just giving you straight math.

2132
01:47:52,520 --> 01:47:55,720
Speaker 7: USC next month still has to play Washington, Oregon, UCLA,

2133
01:47:55,960 --> 01:47:59,400
Speaker 7: Utah's quarterback Bryce and Barnes four total touchdowns, one interception.

2134
01:47:59,479 --> 01:48:03,120
Speaker 7: Tonight he wins for LSU and Missouri Air Force still undefeated,

2135
01:48:03,400 --> 01:48:06,599
Speaker 7: tou Lane and Minnesota with victories. It was Minnesota twelve

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Speaker 7: ten winning at Iowa. Wins for Old Miss and Alabama.

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Speaker 7: That Bama game, they were down at home to Tennessee

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Speaker 7: at half twenty to seven, thirty four to twenty Alabama

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Speaker 7: the finals. So Alabama's five and zero in conference. They

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01:48:19,640 --> 01:48:23,200
Speaker 7: only had one penalty today. Ball settled for two short

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01:48:23,240 --> 01:48:25,920
Speaker 7: field goals late in the first quarter, looking like that

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Speaker 7: was going to cost them. Tennessee is two and two

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Speaker 7: in conference. Next they're at Kentucky. Close wins in the

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Speaker 7: top ten for Oklahoma and Texas. Florida State got three

2145
01:48:35,400 --> 01:48:38,200
Speaker 7: touchdowns fourth quarter and beat Duke thirty eight. Twenty Tonight,

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01:48:38,560 --> 01:48:42,280
Speaker 7: Ohio State down Penn State twenty to twelve. As for

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01:48:42,320 --> 01:48:44,880
Speaker 7: the playoff game. In baseball at Arizona, Phillies are up

2148
01:48:44,880 --> 01:48:47,519
Speaker 7: three games to two in the NLCS after winning six

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01:48:47,560 --> 01:48:50,639
Speaker 7: to one. Solo homers in the six for Kyle Schwarber

2150
01:48:50,680 --> 01:48:53,120
Speaker 7: and Bryce Harper, top of the eighth, two run homer

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Speaker 7: for j.

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01:48:53,520 --> 01:48:54,360
Speaker 3: T rail Muto.

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01:48:54,560 --> 01:48:57,679
Speaker 7: Zach Wheeler beat Zach Gallon in the all Zach matchup.

2154
01:48:57,760 --> 01:49:01,280
Speaker 7: ALCS Game six will be Sunday nights on FS one,

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01:49:01,400 --> 01:49:05,160
Speaker 7: Texas at Houston eight pm Eastern Time. Houston leads three

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01:49:05,200 --> 01:49:07,720
Speaker 7: games to two. Houston Astros are in the LCS for

2157
01:49:07,760 --> 01:49:10,439
Speaker 7: a seventh straight year. The record is eight straight by Atlanta.

2158
01:49:10,840 --> 01:49:13,840
Speaker 7: Houston reliever Brian abray You was suspended two games for

2159
01:49:13,920 --> 01:49:16,439
Speaker 7: hitting a batter last night. He has appealed. The World

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01:49:16,479 --> 01:49:20,599
Speaker 7: Series starts next Friday nights, October twenty seventh, NHL wins

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01:49:20,600 --> 01:49:23,439
Speaker 7: in overtime for Dallas and Columbus Rangers have won at

2162
01:49:23,439 --> 01:49:26,040
Speaker 7: Seattle four to one, and the late game in hockey

2163
01:49:26,080 --> 01:49:28,599
Speaker 7: went to Boston four to two at LA A reminder,

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01:49:28,640 --> 01:49:31,759
Speaker 7: the NBA preseason ended last night. The two regular season

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Speaker 7: openers are on Tuesday. And believe it or not, the

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01:49:35,320 --> 01:49:39,000
Speaker 7: Washington Huskies have just scored a touchdown with eight minutes

2167
01:49:39,000 --> 01:49:42,200
Speaker 7: to go to finally take the lead against mighty Arizona

2168
01:49:42,240 --> 01:49:46,080
Speaker 7: State fourth quarter on FS one. If they kicked the

2169
01:49:46,120 --> 01:49:49,360
Speaker 7: extra point, it'll be well. They look like they're going

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01:49:49,400 --> 01:49:52,000
Speaker 7: for two, So at the moment it's twelve seven over ASU.

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01:49:53,120 --> 01:49:54,880
Speaker 2: Thank you very much to Saga. To Saga, have a

2172
01:49:54,880 --> 01:49:57,639
Speaker 2: great evening. The Saga will be back tomorrow with Kyle Rudolph,

2173
01:49:57,680 --> 01:50:01,800
Speaker 2: Mark Willard as well as the Stinky Genius Army Spaniard

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Speaker 2: and Chris Plank.

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Speaker 3: Eleven Eastern, leven Eastern.

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01:50:04,880 --> 01:50:06,479
Speaker 2: By the way, we will keep you updated on this

2177
01:50:06,680 --> 01:50:09,519
Speaker 2: Washington Arizona State game. We're on for twenty two more

2178
01:50:09,600 --> 01:50:11,679
Speaker 2: minutes before the top of the I one, Bernie Fritto

2179
01:50:11,760 --> 01:50:15,240
Speaker 2: takes over. Let's get back to week seven, Brandon, give

2180
01:50:15,280 --> 01:50:16,679
Speaker 2: us a couple of games really quick.

2181
01:50:16,680 --> 01:50:18,920
Speaker 9: All right, Dolphins on the road taking on the Eagles

2182
01:50:18,920 --> 01:50:22,519
Speaker 9: in a Sunday night football matchup. Eagles coming off that

2183
01:50:22,720 --> 01:50:27,679
Speaker 9: tough loss against the Jets last Sunday where Jalen hurts

2184
01:50:27,680 --> 01:50:28,479
Speaker 9: through three picks.

2185
01:50:29,120 --> 01:50:32,840
Speaker 3: Philly's favored by three. Jason, who you got, man?

2186
01:50:32,880 --> 01:50:35,400
Speaker 4: That's a tough game. This is a good Sunday night game.

2187
01:50:35,400 --> 01:50:37,840
Speaker 4: It's not a great slate of games for the week,

2188
01:50:37,920 --> 01:50:40,880
Speaker 4: but the two or three top matchups are really intriguing.

2189
01:50:41,439 --> 01:50:44,720
Speaker 4: The Eagles still don't look right. They're still trying to

2190
01:50:44,720 --> 01:50:48,919
Speaker 4: figure it out. That was a weird loss, an odd loss.

2191
01:50:49,880 --> 01:50:52,639
Speaker 4: Miami has the best offense in the league right now.

2192
01:50:52,640 --> 01:50:55,200
Speaker 4: I would say, especially when they're healthy. It's like Jeff

2193
01:50:55,240 --> 01:50:58,640
Speaker 4: Wilson is going to play. H n is gonna be

2194
01:50:58,760 --> 01:51:01,599
Speaker 4: there and or eight chance out. But Moster is still

2195
01:51:01,680 --> 01:51:04,680
Speaker 4: running the ball incredibly well for them. Miami going to

2196
01:51:05,080 --> 01:51:08,240
Speaker 4: Pittsburgh or to Philadelphia, I don't like that for them.

2197
01:51:08,360 --> 01:51:10,400
Speaker 4: I think that's a tough place for them to go

2198
01:51:10,400 --> 01:51:12,720
Speaker 4: go play at night. So I'm just gonna go on

2199
01:51:12,840 --> 01:51:15,280
Speaker 4: gut feeling here because I could go either way. I'm

2200
01:51:15,280 --> 01:51:17,240
Speaker 4: gonna take Miami because I think they're the better team

2201
01:51:17,320 --> 01:51:17,720
Speaker 4: right now.

2202
01:51:18,600 --> 01:51:22,360
Speaker 2: So, first of all really quick. Washington just ran maybe

2203
01:51:22,400 --> 01:51:24,560
Speaker 2: the worst two point play in the history of football.

2204
01:51:24,840 --> 01:51:27,040
Speaker 4: Well, I thought that one day was earlier. Today in

2205
01:51:27,120 --> 01:51:29,040
Speaker 4: the Oklahoma game was one of the worst ones I'd

2206
01:51:29,080 --> 01:51:29,559
Speaker 4: ever seen.

2207
01:51:29,760 --> 01:51:33,040
Speaker 2: I somehow missed that. You you text double pass, Well,

2208
01:51:33,040 --> 01:51:34,920
Speaker 2: that was basically what Washington tried to run.

2209
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Speaker 4: It was bad.

2210
01:51:37,560 --> 01:51:40,160
Speaker 2: That is still a twelve seven game in Seattle, about

2211
01:51:40,160 --> 01:51:43,120
Speaker 2: eight minutes left. I'll be quick here, I will stay

2212
01:51:43,120 --> 01:51:45,280
Speaker 2: with you and I'll take I'll take Miami as well.

2213
01:51:46,160 --> 01:51:48,800
Speaker 2: You know all, I'll say really quick. I think some point,

2214
01:51:48,920 --> 01:51:51,920
Speaker 2: at some point, you know, we say, oh this team,

2215
01:51:52,400 --> 01:51:54,680
Speaker 2: you know they've been struggling. Last week was a wake

2216
01:51:54,760 --> 01:51:57,280
Speaker 2: up call. I just think this might be who Philadelphia

2217
01:51:57,280 --> 01:51:59,240
Speaker 2: is right now. Something doesn't look right. You've been on

2218
01:51:59,360 --> 01:52:03,400
Speaker 2: the Shanes Dyke in departure since August, Jason, I give

2219
01:52:03,400 --> 01:52:06,439
Speaker 2: you credit. Give me Miami, Brandon one more game before

2220
01:52:06,479 --> 01:52:08,760
Speaker 2: we get before we wrap this.

2221
01:52:09,680 --> 01:52:13,320
Speaker 9: Packers on the road taking on the Broncos. Packers still

2222
01:52:13,400 --> 01:52:16,759
Speaker 9: kind of the uncertainty around Jordan Love and the Broncos,

2223
01:52:16,920 --> 01:52:21,160
Speaker 9: just uncertainty everywhere. Green Bay is favored by one in

2224
01:52:21,200 --> 01:52:23,160
Speaker 9: this one, So aer anyone to start.

2225
01:52:23,320 --> 01:52:26,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll be quick and I'll just say, I guess

2226
01:52:26,320 --> 01:52:28,160
Speaker 2: I'll take Denver at home. But the reason I put

2227
01:52:28,200 --> 01:52:32,200
Speaker 2: this on the docket was because I need Jason Martin's

2228
01:52:32,240 --> 01:52:34,000
Speaker 2: take on the Denver Broncos. And I thought we were

2229
01:52:34,000 --> 01:52:36,439
Speaker 2: gonna have more time. Didn't know that USC was gonna

2230
01:52:36,479 --> 01:52:37,040
Speaker 2: go crazy.

2231
01:52:37,680 --> 01:52:38,120
Speaker 3: Jason.

2232
01:52:38,680 --> 01:52:41,639
Speaker 2: You know, it's it's been a week since the Thursday

2233
01:52:41,720 --> 01:52:44,200
Speaker 2: night game, Denver's one in five.

2234
01:52:45,080 --> 01:52:47,200
Speaker 3: Just what do you make of the situation there?

2235
01:52:47,360 --> 01:52:50,320
Speaker 4: It's not good. Russ has played better this year. I

2236
01:52:50,360 --> 01:52:53,120
Speaker 4: mean he's got twelve touchdowns and four picks, but it's

2237
01:52:53,120 --> 01:52:54,960
Speaker 4: a one lost team. And now I want the first

2238
01:52:54,960 --> 01:52:57,200
Speaker 4: pick in the draft. That's kind of where we are.

2239
01:52:57,600 --> 01:53:02,000
Speaker 4: I want Caleb. Honestly, this thing is not working. It

2240
01:53:02,280 --> 01:53:04,680
Speaker 4: might be a fire sale coming up with some of

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01:53:04,720 --> 01:53:07,720
Speaker 4: the talent, moving some guys around, changing a couple of

2242
01:53:07,720 --> 01:53:11,240
Speaker 4: the wide receivers out. I just don't like anything about it.

2243
01:53:11,280 --> 01:53:14,000
Speaker 4: I don't like Sean Payton likes the situation in terms

2244
01:53:14,040 --> 01:53:17,439
Speaker 4: of the quarterback and just the offense being limited in

2245
01:53:17,479 --> 01:53:19,320
Speaker 4: a different way dealt with a lot of injuries. I

2246
01:53:19,320 --> 01:53:21,040
Speaker 4: get it, but every team has to deal with that.

2247
01:53:21,560 --> 01:53:24,200
Speaker 4: I think this was a long play for Sean Payton.

2248
01:53:24,280 --> 01:53:26,679
Speaker 4: Not a one year deal in terms of how he

2249
01:53:26,720 --> 01:53:28,639
Speaker 4: was thinking about it, and I think he was probably

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01:53:28,640 --> 01:53:31,960
Speaker 4: thinking past Russell Wilson from the get go. So I'm

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01:53:32,000 --> 01:53:36,320
Speaker 4: looking to the future here. I tend to think Denver

2252
01:53:36,400 --> 01:53:39,479
Speaker 4: will find a way to lose this game. Just gut

2253
01:53:39,479 --> 01:53:43,120
Speaker 4: feeling again. I don't like I don't think Jordan Love

2254
01:53:43,120 --> 01:53:46,160
Speaker 4: has done anything particularly special at all, But I just

2255
01:53:46,200 --> 01:53:47,960
Speaker 4: think the Broncos might be the worst team in the

2256
01:53:48,000 --> 01:53:51,280
Speaker 4: league right now, and with especially the defensive side of

2257
01:53:51,280 --> 01:53:53,840
Speaker 4: the ball, they're an absolute dumpster fire. So I think

2258
01:53:53,880 --> 01:53:57,160
Speaker 4: this is a get right situation potentially for Jordan Love

2259
01:53:57,160 --> 01:53:57,839
Speaker 4: and that offense.

2260
01:53:58,120 --> 01:54:01,120
Speaker 2: Denver Bronco's number one pick and Riley come as quarterbacks

2261
01:54:01,160 --> 01:54:01,840
Speaker 2: coach next year.

2262
01:54:02,800 --> 01:54:04,599
Speaker 4: I don't think he's coming as anything but a head coach,

2263
01:54:04,600 --> 01:54:06,360
Speaker 4: and I don't think Sean Payton is going to be

2264
01:54:06,439 --> 01:54:07,280
Speaker 4: leaving that job.

2265
01:54:07,320 --> 01:54:11,400
Speaker 2: So just kidding, all right, tough, tough night for the Trojans.

2266
01:54:11,720 --> 01:54:15,040
Speaker 2: We'll come back. We'll wrap the show. Er Torris Jason Martin,

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01:54:15,080 --> 01:54:19,320
Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio, hold of Jack Balmeister.

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01:54:20,120 --> 01:54:23,000
Speaker 6: The staff is back, the kick is away, it is up.

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01:54:23,080 --> 01:54:29,839
Speaker 10: Idiot is good, It's good, It's good, and the Utes

2270
01:54:30,040 --> 01:54:35,200
Speaker 10: have beat the Trojans at the Coliseum.

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01:54:35,320 --> 01:54:38,960
Speaker 2: That was Bill Riley from lear Field, as Utah with

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01:54:39,040 --> 01:54:41,680
Speaker 2: a last second field goal knocks off USC at the

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Speaker 2: keep it the updated. On the very late game, I

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01:55:02,320 --> 01:55:05,840
Speaker 2: guess there's two technically number twenty five. UCLA up forty

2280
01:55:05,840 --> 01:55:08,960
Speaker 2: two to twenty forty two to seven, excuse me on Stanford.

2281
01:55:09,560 --> 01:55:15,440
Speaker 2: And then in Seattle, Washington up twelve seven with four

2282
01:55:15,520 --> 01:55:17,760
Speaker 2: minutes to go against Arizona State. They do have the

2283
01:55:17,800 --> 01:55:21,360
Speaker 2: ball back. A score here would seal it. They are

2284
01:55:21,400 --> 01:55:24,720
Speaker 2: in the red zone and we'll keep you updated if

2285
01:55:24,800 --> 01:55:25,360
Speaker 2: they score.

2286
01:55:25,680 --> 01:55:28,360
Speaker 3: You know, Jason, let me, let me, let me do this.

2287
01:55:28,440 --> 01:55:30,640
Speaker 2: You know, we usually like to finish with something light

2288
01:55:30,720 --> 01:55:33,160
Speaker 2: and fun, but we really didn't get to talk much

2289
01:55:33,160 --> 01:55:34,200
Speaker 2: about Ohio.

2290
01:55:33,800 --> 01:55:36,080
Speaker 3: State Penn State. We don't really have to break that

2291
01:55:36,200 --> 01:55:37,160
Speaker 3: game down.

2292
01:55:37,920 --> 01:55:41,080
Speaker 2: But on a day where both of those teams struggle

2293
01:55:41,160 --> 01:55:44,720
Speaker 2: to move the football, And on a day where Michigan

2294
01:55:45,200 --> 01:55:48,240
Speaker 2: in a week full of scandal and what's really going

2295
01:55:48,320 --> 01:55:52,120
Speaker 2: on and are they doing something nefarious, they went and

2296
01:55:52,120 --> 01:55:55,240
Speaker 2: played their arrival and won forty nine to nothing.

2297
01:55:55,400 --> 01:55:58,920
Speaker 3: Michigan is destroying everyone. I know.

2298
01:55:58,960 --> 01:56:01,200
Speaker 2: We usually talk about who's number one, Who's this, Who's that.

2299
01:56:02,240 --> 01:56:06,720
Speaker 2: I've said Michigan for a few weeks. I I'll be blunt.

2300
01:56:06,760 --> 01:56:09,600
Speaker 2: I don't really think it's debatable at this point. Now

2301
01:56:09,680 --> 01:56:11,760
Speaker 2: that's not say they're gonna win the national championship, but

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01:56:11,800 --> 01:56:15,800
Speaker 2: it's not really debatable. One, do you feel Michigan is

2303
01:56:15,840 --> 01:56:18,960
Speaker 2: the best team in college football? And then two, also

2304
01:56:19,920 --> 01:56:24,320
Speaker 2: based on what we saw today, especially with Ohio State

2305
01:56:24,360 --> 01:56:28,560
Speaker 2: the winner today having to go to ann Arbor, Michigan's

2306
01:56:28,600 --> 01:56:31,920
Speaker 2: got to be a favorite against both those teams, right.

2307
01:56:32,080 --> 01:56:35,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, I would agree with that. I'd say they're in

2308
01:56:35,520 --> 01:56:38,200
Speaker 4: the discussion in terms of the best team in the country.

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01:56:38,200 --> 01:56:40,840
Speaker 4: The only thing that I hesitate with is the same

2310
01:56:40,840 --> 01:56:43,280
Speaker 4: thing that I've hesitated with when it comes to Michigan

2311
01:56:43,320 --> 01:56:46,920
Speaker 4: all year, and that is they still haven't played anybody,

2312
01:56:46,960 --> 01:56:50,760
Speaker 4: and we're still not going to know until November the eleventh,

2313
01:56:50,840 --> 01:56:53,360
Speaker 4: and then the twenty fifth, with Maryland in between, and

2314
01:56:53,360 --> 01:56:55,480
Speaker 4: Maryland's not terrible, but they're not They're not going to

2315
01:56:55,560 --> 01:56:58,480
Speaker 4: be much of a challenge, one wouldn't think, unless it's

2316
01:56:58,480 --> 01:57:01,760
Speaker 4: a come down game after something that happens at Penn State.

2317
01:57:01,840 --> 01:57:05,160
Speaker 4: But it's those two games, and we already we spent

2318
01:57:05,400 --> 01:57:07,520
Speaker 4: the early part of the show. We talked a little

2319
01:57:07,520 --> 01:57:11,400
Speaker 4: bit and I mentioned James Franklin's record against top flight

2320
01:57:11,440 --> 01:57:15,080
Speaker 4: opponents ranked teams, especially in the top ten, but even

2321
01:57:15,120 --> 01:57:17,760
Speaker 4: in the top twenty five, not being good. I think

2322
01:57:17,800 --> 01:57:20,360
Speaker 4: Michigan will win that game. They should be Ohio State

2323
01:57:20,400 --> 01:57:23,400
Speaker 4: because watching Ohio State and Penn State today, I just

2324
01:57:23,400 --> 01:57:25,800
Speaker 4: don't think either one of those two teams passes the

2325
01:57:25,840 --> 01:57:29,600
Speaker 4: litmus test to me to be fully complete. I think

2326
01:57:29,640 --> 01:57:33,120
Speaker 4: Michigan is fully complete, but they just haven't been tested

2327
01:57:33,160 --> 01:57:36,400
Speaker 4: by anybody. They're killing everyone, and there's something to be

2328
01:57:36,440 --> 01:57:37,920
Speaker 4: said for that, and you have to play what's on

2329
01:57:37,960 --> 01:57:40,800
Speaker 4: your schedule. But I mean it's been East Carolina, UNLV

2330
01:57:40,920 --> 01:57:46,600
Speaker 4: bowling Green Rutgers, who surprisingly has a good record, Nebraska, Minnesota,

2331
01:57:46,720 --> 01:57:50,560
Speaker 4: Indiana who's terrible. In Michigan State who they barely even

2332
01:57:50,600 --> 01:57:53,920
Speaker 4: have a program at this point in time, so they

2333
01:57:53,960 --> 01:57:56,240
Speaker 4: haven't played anyone, and that's really the only thing. Now.

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01:57:56,280 --> 01:58:00,600
Speaker 4: Georgia hasn't played anybody either. Kentucky's their best their best

2335
01:58:00,600 --> 01:58:04,280
Speaker 4: performance in terms of who they've seen. But I don't

2336
01:58:04,320 --> 01:58:06,880
Speaker 4: think anybody sees Kentucky in terms of an upper reestional

2337
01:58:07,000 --> 01:58:09,040
Speaker 4: on kind of opponent. So I don't know what we

2338
01:58:09,160 --> 01:58:12,160
Speaker 4: know necessarily about them except that they don't look quite

2339
01:58:12,240 --> 01:58:15,000
Speaker 4: the same. And now they have no brock Bowers, and

2340
01:58:15,320 --> 01:58:18,120
Speaker 4: that's that's a significant change for them. They could have

2341
01:58:18,160 --> 01:58:20,440
Speaker 4: lost to Auburn, for example. I think I saw Heather

2342
01:58:20,520 --> 01:58:23,360
Speaker 4: Dnich maybe suggest do you think they win that game

2343
01:58:23,440 --> 01:58:26,080
Speaker 4: without brock Bauers in that game? Probably not. That's an

2344
01:58:26,120 --> 01:58:28,040
Speaker 4: if we you don't have to look at because he

2345
01:58:28,280 --> 01:58:30,680
Speaker 4: was there in that game. But I think it's those

2346
01:58:30,680 --> 01:58:33,000
Speaker 4: two teams. I think it's one of those two, and

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Speaker 4: I don't think you can really argue anybody else. I

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Speaker 4: think that just based on the consistency this year, you

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Speaker 4: can argue Michigan. I'm going to keep it being Georgia

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Speaker 4: for now, but if they if they do this to

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Speaker 4: Penn State, if they dominate Penn State on the road,

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Speaker 4: then I think you have to put them there real quick.

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Speaker 2: I would also say the Georgia perspective, that schedule all

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Speaker 2: of a sudden is not lot. We're talking all see, Oh,

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Speaker 2: it's gonna be so easy. They get floor out of

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Speaker 2: the by next week. Then Missouri at home is in

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Speaker 2: the top twenty and going into thereby this week at

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Speaker 2: seven and one. Oh, miss is seven and one, six

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Speaker 2: and one excuse me. And Tennessee at Tennessee all of

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Speaker 2: a sudden looks a lot tougher. So you know, one, Michigan,

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Speaker 2: their schedule will get tougher. But two I think most

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Speaker 2: people thought well maybe Tennessee could be a trip up.

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Speaker 2: That schedule looks all of a sudden much tougher, especially

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Speaker 2: without brock Bauers, who probably will be out at least

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Speaker 2: for the next two or three weeks.

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Speaker 4: Jase, Yeah, it's gonna be tough. So I still think

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Speaker 4: it's those two teams and then everybody else. To some degree,

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Speaker 4: I can, I can kind of poke holes in most

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Speaker 4: other teams. I think Florida State Florida State got challenged today,

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Speaker 4: so we'll have to watch that. But right now it's

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Speaker 4: one of those two and Michigan might.

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