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Speaker 1: time to look ahead to week sixteen in the NFL,
Speaker 1: and I'm glad. I'm very glad because Week fifteen was brutal.
Speaker 1: I hated it. I took so many l's I can't
Speaker 1: even stand up. But thank god Cooper Cupp kind of
Speaker 1: saved my day a little bit, little ladder bet. Other
Speaker 1: than that, I don't want to see week fifteen, in
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Speaker 1: YouTube channel. Gentlemen, I don't want to talk about Week fifteen.
Speaker 1: It's over. It's done pretty much. I got one more
Speaker 1: game left, hopefully that will kill me. We'll see. But
Speaker 1: let's look ahead. Let's take a look, and let's start
Speaker 1: here with basically is a playoff game here, pat We've
Speaker 1: got the Los Angeles Rams seven and seven taking on
Speaker 1: the New Orleans Saints. This one's in LA. The Rams
Speaker 1: are four point favorites. That feels right to me. Forty
Speaker 1: four and a half is the number that feels right
Speaker 1: to me. At minus one ten. The best number you
Speaker 1: can get right now for New Orleans is plus one
Speaker 1: seventy five. Pat. You know, the Rams a good road
Speaker 1: almost victory against the Ravens. They fell a little short
Speaker 1: and no tee. Last week they looked good, but again
Speaker 1: kind of took their foot off the gas, which worries
Speaker 1: me a little bit. New Orleans coming off of big win.
Speaker 1: They are right in the thick of this playoff, so
Speaker 1: are the Rams. What do you make of this line here,
Speaker 1: any early value at all on Thursday night? Yeah?
Speaker 2: I like the Rams, Joe. They just have a much
Speaker 2: better offense than the Saints. They can move it through
Speaker 2: the air with Matthew Stafford throwing the Cooper Cup and
Speaker 2: Pooka Nakua, and they can move it on the ground
Speaker 2: with Kyron Williams.
Speaker 3: The Saints just the Saints have struggled in the red zone.
Speaker 2: And the Saints have also not been a very good
Speaker 2: team against the spread this year. They are four nine
Speaker 2: and one against the number, whereas the Rams are eight
Speaker 2: five and one against the number, So they have been
Speaker 2: a good spread team.
Speaker 3: I think there's a little bit of value on the
Speaker 3: Rams here.
Speaker 1: It does feel like a little bit also that balance
Speaker 1: attack Sam of the Rams I think is really coming
Speaker 1: along nicely. Cooper Cup's health starting to improve. I think
Speaker 1: in the last couple of weeks that's been a huge positive.
Speaker 1: Matthew Stafford's looked very sharp. But Kien Williams running the
Speaker 1: football in the last month or so has been really
Speaker 1: I think the difference maker of this Rams offense looking
Speaker 1: as good as it has and also getting back into
Speaker 1: this playoff picture. So do you see value on the
Speaker 1: Rams still at four? Is that our too much for you?
Speaker 4: I do? I made this Rams by five and a half,
Speaker 4: I think again. Sean McVay has this Rams offense clicking
Speaker 4: on all cylinders. The Saints pass defense has been pretty
Speaker 4: solid so far this year, at least over the past
Speaker 4: several weeks, but the only competent passing game that they've
Speaker 4: played has been Detroit in the last month. But New
Speaker 4: Orleans rushing defense has been getting worse and worse. Los
Speaker 4: Angeles continues to want to run the ball, like you
Speaker 4: said with Kyron Williams, so I don't think he'll have
Speaker 4: any issue diicing up this Saints front seven. So I
Speaker 4: like the Rams a ton here.
Speaker 1: All right, let's take a look at Saturday's first contest
Speaker 1: at four thirty, you got Pittsburgh hosting the Cincinnati Bengals.
Speaker 1: Now the Bengals are road two and a half favorites,
Speaker 1: despite the fact that you know, again no Joe Burrowy
Speaker 1: got Jake Browning playing, but Browning's played relatively well. Here
Speaker 1: Jamar Chase's shoulder in question right now as we're recording this,
Speaker 1: we don't have a lot of definitive evidence if he's
Speaker 1: going to play or not yet. Too early thirty eight
Speaker 1: and a half is the nine Pittsburgh at plus one eighteen, Sam,
Speaker 1: somehow the Pittsburgh Steelers fired Matt Cannon and the offense
Speaker 1: got worse. It feels like, I don't know how that's possible.
Speaker 1: I understand Getty Pickott getting hurt probably, you know, did
Speaker 1: not help that cause. But you know, it's really tough
Speaker 1: here to look at the Cincinnati Bengals in their circumstance
Speaker 1: being road favors, but at the same time at Pittsburgh
Speaker 1: feels right because Pittsburgh has been unable to handle their business.
Speaker 1: So is this just the right call here? And if so,
Speaker 1: do you feel good about investing in the Bengals?
Speaker 3: I do.
Speaker 4: If I were to take a side. I picked the Bengals.
Speaker 4: I mean, Jake Browning continues to prove all the haters wrong.
Speaker 4: You know, looked a little out of sorts in the
Speaker 4: first half against Minnesota this past weekend, but then really
Speaker 4: turned it on in the second half against a Brian
Speaker 4: Flores defense that has been playing exceptionally well this year.
Speaker 4: The Jamar Chase injury does concern me a little bit
Speaker 4: because Browning has thrived off of Yak in terms of
Speaker 4: his production, and Jamar check Chase offers a lot of that.
Speaker 4: But that said, the Pittsburgh defense just got diced apart
Speaker 4: by Gardner Minshew with someone named DJ Montgomery as his
Speaker 4: wide receiver won for most of the game. Cincinnati also
Speaker 4: lost Dj Reader in this game this past weekend, which
Speaker 4: is a huge blow to their defense. But I think,
Speaker 4: you know, Cincinnati is just a slight tier above Pittsburgh
Speaker 4: at this point.
Speaker 1: Your thoughts here, pat because again the you know Pittsburgh Steelers,
Speaker 1: you know, the great coach. Theoretically, that home field advantage
Speaker 1: it seems to have dissipated. They lost back to back
Speaker 1: games at home to the Arizona Cardinals and then to
Speaker 1: the New England Patriots. So you know, I think we've
Speaker 1: got to change our mindset. There's value on the Steelers
Speaker 1: if you want to go take them on the money line,
Speaker 1: but not that much at plus one eighteen. So I
Speaker 1: don't know. It just feels like the Bengals, and that's boring,
Speaker 1: but it feels right.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Can you imagine, Joe if someone had told you back
Speaker 2: in August that the Bengals were going to lose Joe
Speaker 2: Burrow to a season and injury and they would go
Speaker 2: into Pittsburgh in Week sixteen and be favored by two points.
Speaker 2: That just seems kind of unfathomable. But I get it
Speaker 2: because the Steelers offense look completely broken. Against the Colts
Speaker 2: in Week fifteen. They averaged four yards per play. Pittsburgh
Speaker 2: was penalized eight times for one hundred and one yards,
Speaker 2: so they had more penalty yardage than they had rushing
Speaker 2: yardage seventy four yards on the ground. This just seems
Speaker 2: like a team that's falling apart. The Steelers beat the
Speaker 2: Bengals sixteen to ten in Week twelve in Cincinnati, so
Speaker 2: maybe that gives the Bengals a little extra motivation. I
Speaker 2: do like the Bengals. I don't know if I'm going
Speaker 2: to bet it yet, because what scares me is that
Speaker 2: we have seen the Steelers get outplayed and outgained on
Speaker 2: a bunch of occasions this season, only for them to
Speaker 2: win the game. Now, it hasn't happened lately, like the
Speaker 2: luck is caught up with them lately. But so yeah,
Speaker 2: like in the pools where I have to make a pick,
Speaker 2: I'm going to take the Bengals, but I'm not quite
Speaker 2: sure there's enough value to bet the Bengals.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think you might go some individual props in
Speaker 1: this game instead. Speaking of an after though, I'll go.
Speaker 4: Ahead and real quick before we move on. Actually, just
Speaker 4: got a notification that Mason Rudolph is going to be
Speaker 4: starting for Pittsburgh on Saturday, and so I think that
Speaker 4: probably moves the line in favor of the Bengals a
Speaker 4: little bit, not much. I don't know if it crosses three.
Speaker 2: But yeah, we're getting Rudolf for Christmas to guide the
Speaker 2: Steelers offense with his nose so bright it's perfect.
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Speaker 1: The Chargers are at home. They're taking on the Buffalo Bills.
Speaker 1: Coming off a huge victory, Buffalo looking like they're starting
Speaker 1: to figure it out. Joe Brady Cohen plays balancing the offense,
Speaker 1: getting James Cook the football. What a concept. They are
Speaker 1: now eight and six. The excuse me, the Chargers are
Speaker 1: five and nine. This is a twelve and a half
Speaker 1: point spread here where the Buffalo Bills are favored by
Speaker 1: twelve and a half on the road. Forty two and
Speaker 1: a half is the number plus five twenty five a
Speaker 1: huge number here for the upset of by the Chargers.
Speaker 1: We're gonna get East and stick. We don't know if
Speaker 1: we're gonna be a Keenan Allen. It's a big number here,
Speaker 1: but after that dominant performance, it feels like pat the
Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills are back on track. Is twelve and a
Speaker 1: half comfortable enough for you to still invest in Buffalo?
Speaker 2: Oh boy, people have been gobbling up the Bills, Joe,
Speaker 2: Because I just checked DraftKings.
Speaker 3: It's fourteen right now.
Speaker 1: Moved again And it is.
Speaker 2: Like policy that I do not lay that many points
Speaker 2: in an NFL game.
Speaker 3: But like, I don't know how anyone could.
Speaker 2: Possibly bet the Chargers after what we saw against the Raiders, Like,
Speaker 2: does anyone really think that the Chargers are gonna circle
Speaker 2: the wagons for Brandon Staley like that looked like a
Speaker 2: team that was waving.
Speaker 3: The white flag last Thursday night.
Speaker 2: So the Bills, after beating the Cowboys, they now have
Speaker 2: this reasonable path to the playoffs and they can't afford
Speaker 2: to slip up here. Hard to imagine them letting their
Speaker 2: guard down for this one. If I'm gonna bet it,
Speaker 2: I'm gonna bet the Bills. I just don't know if
Speaker 2: I can lay fourteen points in an NFL game. It
Speaker 2: never feels comfortable.
Speaker 1: We see that head coach bounce when they get fired
Speaker 1: quite a bit, but so far in Carolina we didn't
Speaker 1: see it, and Sam, this doesn't feel like another time
Speaker 1: we're going to see it either.
Speaker 4: No, the Bills are quite possibly the best team in
Speaker 4: the AFC, and with the quarterback that the Chargers have
Speaker 4: now quite possibly the worst team in the AFC, fourteen
Speaker 4: points is a lot, but that's I mean, they should
Speaker 4: have no issue with that. I do think if you
Speaker 4: do want to invest in the Bills and it don't
Speaker 4: want to do it on the spread. Josh Allen MVP
Speaker 4: at fourteen to one right now. I mean, I know
Speaker 4: everyone sort of thinks that Rock Party has locked it
Speaker 4: up right now, but they still San Francisco still has
Speaker 4: a couple of tough games to end the season. The
Speaker 4: Buffalo Bills could win out and take over the division
Speaker 4: lead by the end of the season. So I mean
Speaker 4: he's playing exceptionally well. I think voters might look for
Speaker 4: reasons not to vote for Purty given all the supporting
Speaker 4: cast and everything like that. So I think MVP right now,
Speaker 4: Josh Allen is probably the best value on the board.
Speaker 1: Certainly an interesting one. A lot of quarterback chaos potentially
Speaker 1: in this next matchup. We don't know if Gino's going
Speaker 1: to play tonight yet game time decision. We don't know
Speaker 1: how he's going to make it through that game. If
Speaker 1: he does play, then Will Levis is going for an
Speaker 1: MRI on his ankle. So the Tennessee Titans are at
Speaker 1: home in Week sixteen, two and a half point underdogs
Speaker 1: at home Seattle two and a half point favorites. You're
Speaker 1: getting forty two and a half is the number plus
Speaker 1: one twenty on Tennessee. My early lean here Sam is
Speaker 1: Tennessee because that pivot point to quarterback. I feel much
Speaker 1: better about Tannehill than I do about Drew Locke, and
Speaker 1: again Tennessee is at home, So to me, I think
Speaker 1: this is actually an interesting game to kind of jump
Speaker 1: on early before you get some more potential news that
Speaker 1: could change this one a little bit. What are your
Speaker 1: thoughts on this game here at Tennessee Titans in the
Speaker 1: Seattle Seahawks.
Speaker 4: Yeah, this one was a tough one to get a
Speaker 4: grasp on given the quarterback uncertainty. I agree that Will
Speaker 4: Levis to Ryan Tannehill isn't really much of a change.
Speaker 4: I do think the under for this game is in play.
Speaker 4: Both neither of these teams play particularly fast. They've shown
Speaker 4: that their offenses can sputter at times. The defenses aren't great,
Speaker 4: so that's probably the one concern. But I just I
Speaker 4: don't really have an early lean on a side for
Speaker 4: this right now and think this could be just an
Speaker 4: ugly game from two offenses that have struggled.
Speaker 1: Pack Can you make any money on the ugly?
Speaker 2: We've got the West Coast team going to the Eastern
Speaker 2: time zone for an early afternoon game, so like that's
Speaker 2: the formula and I'm not going to bet the Seahawks.
Speaker 2: It's just a matter of whether I want to bet
Speaker 2: the Titans. I don't think they are going to quit
Speaker 2: on Mike Vrabel, even though they've been eliminated from the
Speaker 2: playoffs officially. But with Will Levis getting hurt, we're gonna
Speaker 2: get a rusty Ryan Tannehill most likely at quarterback. I
Speaker 2: kind of agree with you, Joe. If I'm gonna bet it,
Speaker 2: I'm gonna bet the Titans. But right now I'm leaning
Speaker 2: towards just walking away.
Speaker 3: From this one.
Speaker 1: All right, Garner Minshak going off a great game is
Speaker 1: going to take the Colts into Atlanta. This one's in Atlanta.
Speaker 1: Atlanta is two point underdogs at home. Forty four and
Speaker 1: a half is the number for this game. You get
Speaker 1: Indian at minus one thirty Atlanta plus one ten fits. Look,
Speaker 1: this is a huge game for the Colts. Atlanta is
Speaker 1: hanging on by a thread here, still relevant, but still,
Speaker 1: I mean, they have got to come up with a
Speaker 1: big victory. I know Ritters played better at home than
Speaker 1: he's played on the road. It was a disasterately loss
Speaker 1: of the Panthers. This is a dangerous game for many
Speaker 1: many reasons, just looking at the quarterbacks, looking at the
Speaker 1: trend lines, all these things. So that being said, taking
Speaker 1: all that danger into account. You see any early value
Speaker 1: in Atlanta, Indy.
Speaker 3: I do. I like the Colts.
Speaker 2: The Falcons are four and ten against the spread this year,
Speaker 2: like they have been a terrible spread team, and they
Speaker 2: have to be reeling emotionally after losing a game to
Speaker 2: the Panthers that really damaged their playoff hopes. They needed
Speaker 2: that one badly. Also, Arthur Smith, Joe good Lord. The
Speaker 2: Falcons ran fifty one offensive plays yesterday and Bijon Robinson,
Speaker 2: Drake London, and Kyle Pitts either touch the ball or
Speaker 2: were intended targets on seventeen of those fifty one plays.
Speaker 2: So you've got three early first round draft picks selected
Speaker 2: to power the engines of your offense, three of them,
Speaker 2: and they're only being, you know, getting opportunities on one
Speaker 2: third of your offensive snaps. I know this is a
Speaker 2: betting show, not a fantasy show, but Arthur Smith is
Speaker 2: not someone in whom I want to invest my money,
Speaker 2: and in fact, I'm very happy to be against him.
Speaker 1: All right, Sam, are you happy to bet against Arthur
Speaker 1: Smith and the Falcons as well?
Speaker 4: Yep? It's it's death taxes and Shane Stiken being a
Speaker 4: coaching mismatch this week against Arthur Smith. To Pat's point,
Speaker 4: Michael Pittman in the concussion protocol, but they'll have the
Speaker 4: extra day given they played on Saturday and then play
Speaker 4: the following Sunday. Stiken also said that there is a
Speaker 4: chance they get Jonathan Taylor back in this game as well,
Speaker 4: which would be huge if if Zach Moss is out
Speaker 4: as well. The Falcons just couldn't do anything against the Panthers.
Speaker 4: And I know it was rainy and that game was gross,
Speaker 4: but rain typically helps the offense. And Desmond Ritter just
Speaker 4: had another terrible interception in opponent territory. They can't really
Speaker 4: do anything there. I continue to think that the Colts
Speaker 4: are they are to an extent over you know, playing
Speaker 4: their their talent and to a point, but they're doing
Speaker 4: so and stacking up these wins. So I love the
Speaker 4: excuse me the Colts in this situation.
Speaker 1: All right, let's move on to the next game. Here
Speaker 1: on our Slaves, we continue to break down Week sixteen
Speaker 1: in the NFL here on BP Cleveland and Houston. Now,
Speaker 1: hopefully you get CJ. Stroud back in this game. Cleveland
Speaker 1: is nine and five. Sam, I know you love Cleveland.
Speaker 1: I know you love that bet that we were talking
Speaker 1: about not that long ago. They found a way somehow
Speaker 1: to hang on to that victory at home against Chicago yesterday.
Speaker 1: Houston case Keenum, Well, it's okay. We're still gonna be
Speaker 1: winning football games no matter who they lose. It's amazing
Speaker 1: Houston Texans figure it out. Dimiico Ryan is just a
Speaker 1: terrific job with that team. Houston at home minus two
Speaker 1: and a half. Forty two and a half is the
Speaker 1: number plus one fifteen on the money line for Cleveland.
Speaker 1: So that being said, do you have any early leans
Speaker 1: on this game because this one is another one that
Speaker 1: has huge playoff implication. Sam, Houston's at home, but we've
Speaker 1: seen Houston in recent weeks also when the better competition
Speaker 1: comes to town, they haven't looked quite as good.
Speaker 4: Yeah. I went back and forth on this one a
Speaker 4: couple of times when when prepping this morning. I do
Speaker 4: think CJ. Stroud is back in this game. Nico Collins
Speaker 4: availability is another big factor in this, but it is
Speaker 4: many as many passing yards as Joe Flacco is throwing
Speaker 4: four I think it's making it seem like he's playing
Speaker 4: better than he actually has since he's joined the Browns.
Speaker 4: Among forty eight quarterbacks with at least seventy five dropbacks.
Speaker 4: He ranks forty third in EPA per play, forty first
Speaker 4: in success rate, forty third in CPOE, and thirtieth in
Speaker 4: PFF passing great, So he's not really playing that well.
Speaker 4: The Browns have come away with some wins, and the
Speaker 4: Houston rushing defense has allowed a success rate over thirty
Speaker 4: four percents just once in their last five games. They
Speaker 4: stuffed Derrick Henry this past week. So this is a
Speaker 4: game that I think that line of two and a
Speaker 4: half is right about on. And certainly, if I'm betting
Speaker 4: the Texans want to wait until we know more about CJ.
Speaker 1: Stroud's health, pat I want to bet the Browns. I
Speaker 1: think there's something against theefanski another side of the coach.
Speaker 1: There's done a terrific job here with this team defense travels.
Speaker 1: We've seen that with Cleveland before. I think despite some
Speaker 1: of the injuries and the issues they've had, Flacco found
Speaker 1: a way to make some plays. I feel like the
Speaker 1: Browns feel like they've got a little bit of magic,
Speaker 1: which is not something that the Cleveland fans are used
Speaker 1: to seeing, but it feels that way and to me.
Speaker 1: This is that statement game here where if you're Cleveland
Speaker 1: and you're for real go in, you beat a young
Speaker 1: Texans scene that's still very wet behind the ears and
Speaker 1: plus one fifteen on the money line. I think that's
Speaker 1: where the value is. And maybe to Sam's point, if
Speaker 1: I like Cleveland, maybe I wait because if CJ. Stroud
Speaker 1: is announcing this game, maybe that number changes a little
Speaker 1: bit more and I even get something better than the
Speaker 1: one to fifteen.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's not a bad premise. Joe bet the team
Speaker 2: with the better defense in mid December late December, so
Speaker 2: like I get that, and we've seen Joe Flacco, Like,
Speaker 2: get this offense moving.
Speaker 3: He is capable of moving it.
Speaker 2: I mean he's averaging three hundred and thirteen passing yards
Speaker 2: in his three starts. Unfortunately, Joe Flacco has also thrown
Speaker 2: five interceptions in his three starts. And that's the thing
Speaker 2: with Flacco, Like I'm kind of not eager to bet
Speaker 2: a game with Joe Flacco because he is such a
Speaker 2: wild card and he can just hand the other team
Speaker 2: the game with his turnovers. But like he can also
Speaker 2: I mean, if you get the combination of this Brown's
Speaker 2: defense banged up as it may be playing like the
Speaker 2: Browns defense and Joe Flacco clicking like they could they could,
Speaker 2: even though this Houston team is overachieved all year, like
Speaker 2: they could blow Houston out of the water, Like I
Speaker 2: think the Browns have that sort of top end potential.
Speaker 2: But right now, I mean, I just have no feel
Speaker 2: for this one, Joe. I don't think I'm gonna play it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I totally understand. I mean, these are two
Speaker 1: teams that have show you high points and low points,
Speaker 1: which always makes it tough. And again, looking in the road,
Speaker 1: I'm looking at value. To me, if this game is
Speaker 1: a coin flip, it's the value of the plus money
Speaker 1: in Cleveland in the defense in December, as you point out,
Speaker 1: but we'll see. I love CJ. Stroud, nobody loves Stroud
Speaker 1: more than me. I just feel like Cleveland right now
Speaker 1: is the side that I'm on to this one now.
Speaker 1: I waited as long as I could because I know
Speaker 1: yesterday was not a happy day for Packers fans. So
Speaker 1: we're finally gonna get to the Packers here. I waited
Speaker 1: let you guys get loose a little bit in the
Speaker 1: bullpen before we put you on the mound. Green by
Speaker 1: Packers six and eight going to Carolina two and twelve.
Speaker 1: Carolina coming off of victory. Cremay coming off a loss,
Speaker 1: would have thought that the Packers are four and a
Speaker 1: half point favorites. Minus one ten thirty six is the
Speaker 1: consensus number right now on betting pros. Minus two twenty
Speaker 1: five for green Bay on the money line, plus one
Speaker 1: eighty for Carolina. Pat get right game for the pack
Speaker 1: You feel good about this one here?
Speaker 3: Oh goodness, what a difference a week makes? Show?
Speaker 2: Uh seven days and on this show a week ago,
Speaker 2: Sam and I were full of holiday cheer, the Packers
Speaker 2: at the inside track for a playoff spot, and they
Speaker 2: have complete fallen on their faces with losses to the
Speaker 2: Giants and Buccaneers. Joe, if we stay on this game
Speaker 2: too long, Sam and I are going to start ranting
Speaker 2: about how bad Packers defensive coordinated.
Speaker 3: Joe, Barry, We'll get out.
Speaker 1: I don't want to depress everybody, Yeah, I mean, look
Speaker 1: like I don't want to bring you down this holiday season.
Speaker 2: Suffice it to say that Baker Mayfield just posted the
Speaker 2: only perfect passer rating a visiting quarterback has ever posted
Speaker 2: at lambeau Field and PFF just gave the Packers the
Speaker 2: worst pass coverage grade of any team in any game
Speaker 2: over the last five NFL season. So yeah, I mean
Speaker 2: not feeling totally great about this team right now. I
Speaker 2: don't like either side. I'm thinking of betting the over
Speaker 2: in part because of my lack of confidence in Joe
Speaker 2: Berry and the Green Bay defense. So yeah, just move
Speaker 2: on from me, please, Joe.
Speaker 1: Sam pat has asked me to push the ball into
Speaker 1: your side of the court, so the floor is yours.
Speaker 1: Look it's Carolina. I know they came out with a victory,
Speaker 1: but let's not go crazy here, hackers. Get right, Yes,
Speaker 1: come on, boys, let's get let's let's let's get that
Speaker 1: cheese head back on. Come on.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, I think the Packers will win, but
Speaker 4: I'm not confident enough to take them on the road
Speaker 4: against the spread. They've allowed six I don't even need
Speaker 4: to say all these stats that tell how bad the
Speaker 4: Packers defense has been the last couple of weeks. Here,
Speaker 4: here's the crezy. Here's the one of the worst ones.
Speaker 4: The Buccaneers had a point seventy two ep a per
Speaker 4: play on pass attempts, so every four pass attempts they're
Speaker 4: expected to score about three points. I mean, it was
Speaker 4: it was so bad. And I understand you. You traded
Speaker 4: away Rustull Douglas, you don't have Gyr Alexander, but something's
Speaker 4: gotta change and you can't just be sitting back playing
Speaker 4: soft zone defense and expect things to happen. Uh. And
Speaker 4: I think Bryce Young made some decent passes this past weekend.
Speaker 4: He certainly certainly is showing more lately that he can
Speaker 4: scramble get out of the pocket, and Green Bay has
Speaker 4: struggled with that as well the past several weeks. So again,
Speaker 4: I think Green Bay wins the game, but I'm not
Speaker 4: confident to take the four points there.
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, that's it for the depressing part of
Speaker 1: the show. We're going to get happy again. The New
Speaker 1: York Jets. They're eliminated from the playoffs. They're at home
Speaker 1: against the Washington Commanders. The Jets are five and nine,
Speaker 1: the Commanders are four and ten. The Jets are three
Speaker 1: point favorites now after getting shut out by the Miami Dolphins.
Speaker 1: Zach Wilson went from player of the week to pariah
Speaker 1: of the week. And Aaron Rodgers wants to get cleared
Speaker 1: from practice, but I don't know if it matters now
Speaker 1: if he still wants to come back, does he want
Speaker 1: to prove a point and push the envelope? Who knows
Speaker 1: thirty eight is the number plus one thirty five on
Speaker 1: the Washington side. That's where I want to live on
Speaker 1: this one, the plus one thirty five on the Washington side. Sam,
Speaker 1: what do you think you're getting crazy with me with
Speaker 1: the Washington Commanders or why?
Speaker 4: I mean, I don't even think it's getting that crazy.
Speaker 4: I don't know who's playing quarterback for the Jets. I
Speaker 4: think Zach Wilson probably gives them the best chance to win,
Speaker 4: but he suffered a concussion yesterday Washington, I don't think
Speaker 4: if I remember correctly, Sam Howell getting benched wasn't because
Speaker 4: of injury. It seemed like they were just sort of
Speaker 4: out of the game and Ron Rivera made the switch
Speaker 4: to Jacoby Brissette. Honestly, if they played Brissett and start him,
Speaker 4: I think the Commanders should possibly be favored in this game.
Speaker 4: I mean, I don't think they will be because the
Speaker 4: Jets defense still is a strong unit and Washington's.
Speaker 3: Is not at all.
Speaker 4: But Jacoby Brissett looked really competent in the couple of
Speaker 4: drives he had again quarterback yeah, which is again something
Speaker 4: a lot of teams could could use these days, especially
Speaker 4: the New York Jets. So I like the Commanders on
Speaker 4: the money line again, I think with how variable that
Speaker 4: offense can be, potentially taking on them on some alternate
Speaker 4: spreads as well.
Speaker 1: All right, Pat Jets Commanders thoughts.
Speaker 2: I'm fascinated to see the matchup between the Jets offense
Speaker 2: and the Commander's defense, Like that's going to be a
Speaker 2: slow motion train wreck that you just can't look away from. Joe,
Speaker 2: I don't want to take a side in what to
Speaker 2: me looks like a really unpredictable game between two bad teams.
Speaker 2: But I have already bet the under in this game
Speaker 2: under thirty eight. The Washington offense has kind of been
Speaker 2: struggling lately, Like the Commanders have scored twenty points or
Speaker 2: fewer and four straight games that includes games against the
Speaker 2: Giants in the RAMS, So it's not like it's just
Speaker 2: they're running into great defenses that.
Speaker 3: Are stopping them.
Speaker 2: The Commanders throw the ball at a higher rate than
Speaker 2: anyone else in the league, and although the Jets are bad,
Speaker 2: the one thing they do do very well is shut
Speaker 2: down opponents passing games except for this week against the Dolphins.
Speaker 3: Meanwhile, the Jets, Jets offenses have quit the Jets maybe
Speaker 3: they have, maybe they have.
Speaker 1: You saw I think you saw that third quarter, fourth
Speaker 1: quarter in that game is like, Okay, you know we're
Speaker 1: out of it. This is it, This was our moment,
Speaker 1: this was everything was riding on this pat I know,
Speaker 1: maybe Rogers comes back, we stay relevant, we win in
Speaker 1: division game as a huge win against the Miami Dolphins.
Speaker 1: That going to Miami do that. You had the momentum
Speaker 1: of the previous week with a huge win and it
Speaker 1: all just fell apart and all just disintegrated. And I
Speaker 1: think that takes toll mentally on a team.
Speaker 2: I don't know if Sam Howell or Jacoby Brissett are
Speaker 2: dicing up even a disinterested Jets defense.
Speaker 3: Though Joe and.
Speaker 1: Like Terry McLaurin, had some moments in that game yesterday.
Speaker 1: You reminded everybody how spectacular of Talenty is.
Speaker 2: The sideline catch that got disallowed was one of the
Speaker 2: craziest catches you're ever gonna see. But meanwhile, like the
Speaker 2: Jets offense is so bad, I don't like I think
Speaker 2: they are capable of making the Commander's defense look good.
Speaker 2: So I do not see this game getting to thirty
Speaker 2: eight points. To me, that's one of the better bets
Speaker 2: of the week.
Speaker 1: Oh I like that.
Speaker 3: Get it now. It's gonna come down, so get it
Speaker 3: now at thirty eight.
Speaker 1: Good good call there. By the way, the next game
Speaker 1: as a pretty big number forty seven for Minnesota Detroit.
Speaker 1: This one's in Minnesota. The Troit is three point favorites
Speaker 1: on the road plus one forty on the Minnesota side
Speaker 1: for the upset. I got Nick Mullins's past week. I
Speaker 1: assume that's what we're gonna get again. Detroit at ten
Speaker 1: to four. Big victory for them. Your thoughts here, does
Speaker 1: the gravy train keep rolling into the Detroit Lions back
Speaker 1: on track here or to the Minnesota Vikings. There were
Speaker 1: a little little hiccup in things here for the Detroit Lions.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I think everyone's first instinct is going
Speaker 2: to be to take the Lions after their nationally televised
Speaker 2: paddling of the Broncos on Saturday night, and after, for
Speaker 2: that matter, after the Vikings nationally televised meltown against the
Speaker 2: Bengals on Saturday afternoon.
Speaker 3: I'm not quite.
Speaker 2: Ready to believe that all as well with the Lions,
Speaker 2: though Joe like that went over the Broncos. Before that,
Speaker 2: the Lions had not beaten anyone convincingly in a long time.
Speaker 2: They had bad losses to the Packers. They squeaked out
Speaker 2: wins over the Saints, the Bears, the Chargers. So does
Speaker 2: one game and we know when the Lions are clicking
Speaker 2: on offensively on offense, as they were Saturday night against
Speaker 2: the Broncos, it's like they can look so impressive. But
Speaker 2: we hadn't really seen that for a while. Like Jared
Speaker 2: Goff had not been playing particularly well. So the Lions
Speaker 2: are a better team than the Vikings. But I'm not
Speaker 2: betting this game. I just don't think there's enough value
Speaker 2: to pull me over to the Lion's side.
Speaker 1: Sam, is there any value on this game or particularly
Speaker 1: in the forty seven?
Speaker 4: I think there's a little bit of value on the Lions.
Speaker 4: This is the first of two matchups we get in
Speaker 4: the final three weeks of the season. Between these two games,
Speaker 4: the Vikings, as we know, love to blitz and Jared
Speaker 4: Goff has struggled against the Blitzy has a sixty point
Speaker 4: two PFF grade, which is twenty ninth among qualifying quarterbacks.
Speaker 4: But the current way to attack sort of defense right
Speaker 4: now is by running the ball. I think that's how
Speaker 4: Detroit attacks that. Even though they had a positive password
Speaker 4: over expectation for the first time since Week seven this
Speaker 4: past week. But Jamira Gibbs looks phenomenal right now. He
Speaker 4: is explosive, and I think the Viking, excuse me, the
Speaker 4: Lions are back on track. I mean, yes, it had
Speaker 4: been a while since this Lions offense had clicked, but
Speaker 4: they did it against a Broncos defense that had been
Speaker 4: stifling opposing offense for the last month and a half
Speaker 4: or two months. So I'm excited. I think the Lions
Speaker 4: hold a little bit of value. This is indoors still,
Speaker 4: so it's not in away game outside for for Jared Goffin,
Speaker 4: I think Detroit is going to show once again that
Speaker 4: they're part of the class of the NFC.
Speaker 1: Tampa Bay is at seven and seven. They were at
Speaker 1: home one point underdogs at home home to the Jacksonville Jaguars,
Speaker 1: coming off another tough loss there for them. Jaguars just
Speaker 1: seeming like a team that just needs a couple more pieces,
Speaker 1: some offensive line pieces. Maybe next year, maybe they're ready
Speaker 1: to take that leap, but they're very frustrating team from
Speaker 1: I think a wagering standpoint forty three and a half
Speaker 1: is the number minus one ten you can get on
Speaker 1: either side of this game here right now on the
Speaker 1: money line, and that's kind of where I'm living. It feels,
Speaker 1: I mean, Vegas is telling you it to pick him.
Speaker 1: Here's Sam So basically, do you want to take Tampa
Speaker 1: at home, who is sort of gaining a little momentum,
Speaker 1: or a team in Jacksonville that continues to It feels
Speaker 1: like Jacksonville just spins its wheels a little bit, and
Speaker 1: maybe Lawrence's health is a big part of that as
Speaker 1: well some of the other injuries that they've had on offense.
Speaker 1: What do you think here about this one here Jacksonville
Speaker 1: going to Tampa. Is this is a spot where Tampa
Speaker 1: really should be the favorite.
Speaker 4: Well, it went a little under the radar last night,
Speaker 4: but Trevor Lawrence is in the concussion protocol as of
Speaker 4: Monday morning, which again like there wasn't any real I
Speaker 4: don't think he left the game at all last night.
Speaker 4: But they also lost Say Jones to a hamstring injury
Speaker 4: that I would expect will keep him out of this game.
Speaker 4: So it's down to Calvin Ridley and Evan Ingram. And
Speaker 4: like the depth that they have at receiver Jamal swagnuw
Speaker 4: with a great long touchdown catch this past week. But
Speaker 4: I don't want to touch this game until we know
Speaker 4: more about Trevor Lawrence and whether he's going to play.
Speaker 1: Pat I'm into this one. I'm buying the Bucks at home.
Speaker 2: What do you think I bet the Buccaneers today get
Speaker 2: and I got two and a half points on DraftKings Joe,
Speaker 2: and because this game did strike me as a game
Speaker 2: that should be a pick them, Like, I feel like
Speaker 2: the Buccaneers are basically a league average team, and the
Speaker 2: way the Jaguars have played lately, I don't think they've
Speaker 2: been much better than a league average team. So you're
Speaker 2: throwing the injuries that Sam mangined with the you know,
Speaker 2: the wide receiver shortage they have right now, and Trevor Lawrence.
Speaker 2: I mean, I think Laura and So will probably play,
Speaker 2: but if he doesn't, oh boy, I mean what a value?
Speaker 2: So yeah, like I do think this should be a pick.
Speaker 2: I mean, if you're getting points with the Buccaneers taking
Speaker 2: the points or betting the money line makes sense to me.
Speaker 1: All right, let's continue on here. We've got a lot
Speaker 1: of games to get to Arizona Chicago. The Bears were
Speaker 1: in this one of the Bears defense played very well.
Speaker 1: The Arizona Cardinals defense was a joke. There were guys
Speaker 1: so wide open, unbelievable, you know, over twelve yards sometimes
Speaker 1: some of these guys, either we Caffrey or Deebo were
Speaker 1: open in this game. It was stunning. The Bears are
Speaker 1: four and a half point favorites against the Cardinals and
Speaker 1: this one forty four and a half is the number
Speaker 1: plus one eighty on the money line for the Cardinals.
Speaker 1: It's weird to feel comfortable with Chicago being favored by
Speaker 1: four and a half points, but Pat, I feel comfortable
Speaker 1: that Arizona's not going to go into Chicago and December
Speaker 1: and win this football game or get closer with the
Speaker 1: way that defense played. Plus, you know, Kyler Murray got
Speaker 1: kind of rocked in that game a little bit too.
Speaker 1: I don't know, I'm just I though. The Bears are
Speaker 1: far from perfect, but the Bears have been very competitive,
Speaker 1: and I think this is finally a matchup that almost
Speaker 1: goes their way in terms of the you're finally getting
Speaker 1: a cookie, and I think they've been desperate for this
Speaker 1: kind of matchup and I think they're getting one here.
Speaker 1: What do you think?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean you said it, Joe laying the four
Speaker 2: points with a Chicago Bears team that like and this
Speaker 2: was the difference between a winning week for me and
Speaker 2: a juice losing week, Joe. The Bears inability to close
Speaker 2: a win they should have had against the Browns. I
Speaker 2: think that's the only thing that gives you pause. The
Speaker 2: Bears are clearly the better team here. Their defense has
Speaker 2: played really well of late. They can move the ball
Speaker 2: with justin fields, and you pointed out some of the
Speaker 2: flaws the Cardinals have, So yeah, like, I do think
Speaker 2: there's value in the Bears. We also talked about how
Speaker 2: with a warm weather team going up to a place
Speaker 2: like Soldier Field in Chicago in late December, mid December,
Speaker 2: home field might be worth more than two points, and
Speaker 2: I think that could be the case here. So yes,
Speaker 2: I like the Bears. I also think the under might
Speaker 2: be a pretty good play here because of how good
Speaker 2: the Bears defense is. And you know, the Bears themselves
Speaker 2: are only averaging nineteen point two points over their last
Speaker 2: five games. So for the over to land here, both
Speaker 2: teams would have to click on offense to some degree,
Speaker 2: and it's kind of hard to see that happening, especially
Speaker 2: in a game where weather could potentially be a factor.
Speaker 1: Sam, what do you think, Chicago, Arizona? You think that
Speaker 1: four and a half a save?
Speaker 4: No? I don't. I don't really like either side in
Speaker 4: this one. Looking at the forecast for Chicago, looks like
Speaker 4: it's going to be a bone chilling forty seven degrees
Speaker 4: for some December Chicago weather. So I don't think the
Speaker 4: weather impacts things that much.
Speaker 1: I think for the Arizona folks, yeah, that is very true.
Speaker 4: But I think what's driving this total up is just
Speaker 4: we have two exciting, elusive quarterbacks who can make things
Speaker 4: happen on the ground. But to Pat's point, this Bears
Speaker 4: defense continues to impress. The Cardinals offense at times looked
Speaker 4: like he had some spunk against the forty nine ers,
Speaker 4: But excuse me, Kyler Murray, with him getting banged up,
Speaker 4: I think the under is the right play in that game.
Speaker 1: All right, This is a fun one here Christmas Eve
Speaker 1: for twenty five Eastern Dallas Miami. Both teams are ten
Speaker 1: and four. Miami at home is a one and a
Speaker 1: half point favorite right now with the consensus betting pros line,
Speaker 1: fifty one is the number for this game Dallas plus
Speaker 1: one oh five. So look, we got the answer to
Speaker 1: the question. Is dak ready to take that step forward
Speaker 1: and all of a sudden lead a team on the
Speaker 1: road to a big win? And I think that was
Speaker 1: a resounding no yesterday as they got their brains beat
Speaker 1: in by the Buffalo Bills, and I mean literally and
Speaker 1: figuratively in this game. Now they're going to Miami. We'll
Speaker 1: see what your thoughts are here, Sam, But this one
Speaker 1: again Vegas basically telling you to choose your adventure, So
Speaker 1: which one you want to take?
Speaker 4: I'm going with the Dolphins here. We've got a bit
Speaker 4: of a Spider Man meme matchup of two teams that
Speaker 4: haven't really gotten it done against good teams season, so
Speaker 4: one of them is gonna have to do that this week.
Speaker 4: I think there are a couple of defensive matchups for
Speaker 4: Miami that are are pretty big. Christian Wilkins right now
Speaker 4: playing some really incredible ball on the defensive line, and
Speaker 4: Zach Martin if he is out, could make things even worse.
Speaker 4: For Dallas. Jalen Ramsey potentially lined up against Ceedee Lamb
Speaker 4: when he's lined up out wide. So I think Miami
Speaker 4: gets Tyreek hillback for this game as well. And and
Speaker 4: the Cowboys secondary I don't think is playing has not
Speaker 4: played as well the last several weeks. With all of
Speaker 4: the firepower that Miami has on offense, I think they're
Speaker 4: able to take care of Dallas this.
Speaker 1: Week, Patuh To Sam's point, Miami has struggled against teams
Speaker 1: that you know are above them theoretically right, punching up
Speaker 1: has not been there for today. They've beaten the teams
Speaker 1: are supposed to beat. Dallas is more of a test.
Speaker 1: They have also failed most tests. So of these two
Speaker 1: teams that are good against bad playing each other, who
Speaker 1: comes out the victor.
Speaker 2: But you guys are not gonna be on Jerry Jones'
Speaker 2: Christmas card list this year, Like Joe, you're just trashing
Speaker 2: them for how they played against Buffalo, Sam sing, they
Speaker 2: haven't beaten anyone after they squashed the Eagles in Week fourteen.
Speaker 2: Like I'm not going to penalize the Cowboys too much
Speaker 2: for the egg they laid in Buffalo yesterday. As bad
Speaker 2: as they were against the Bills in Week fifteen. I mean,
Speaker 2: like that game against the Eagles. They were that terrific
Speaker 2: the week prior so. But it was good to see
Speaker 2: that the Dolphins didn't miss a beat without Tyreek Hill
Speaker 2: and just squashed the Jets.
Speaker 3: So I do think this is a good line. I
Speaker 3: can't wait to watch it. I'm not going to.
Speaker 1: Bet it, all right, I don't know if you can
Speaker 1: wait to watch this one. The New England Patriots and
Speaker 1: the Denver Broncos. Pat I know, get excited. Minus six
Speaker 1: for Denver in their building feels about right again, a
Speaker 1: lot of points for Denver, but it is the New
Speaker 1: England Patriots and they are definitely done. Thirty four and
Speaker 1: a half is the number for this one. Plus two
Speaker 1: to twenty on the upset line for New England. Now, look,
Speaker 1: you know we thought, you know, they didn't have anything
Speaker 1: left in the tank, and then they went into Pittsburgh
Speaker 1: and won a game. Can they steal another one here?
Speaker 1: Pat or do you want to at least be on
Speaker 1: the side of that six that plus number on the
Speaker 1: New England side considering all the shortcomings of Denver.
Speaker 3: No, I want to take the Broncos here. Joe at home.
Speaker 2: This opened with the Broncos favored by five and a half,
Speaker 2: and I think some other people saw the value in
Speaker 2: Denver too, because it quickly got bet up to six.
Speaker 2: Terrible game for them Saturday night in Detroit, one of
Speaker 2: those burned the film type games. But the Broncos have
Speaker 2: been the much much better team over the last month
Speaker 2: and a half than the Patriots have been. Like if
Speaker 2: you take away the Week fifteen result and figure out
Speaker 2: what this line would have been, I feel like it
Speaker 2: would have been Broncos like minus eight and a.
Speaker 3: Half or something like that. So I'm happy to take
Speaker 3: the Broncos. I think there's.
Speaker 1: Value sam Broncos or Pats.
Speaker 4: I hate that I am on the Patriots again this week.
Speaker 4: Last week I said, if that game gets out the digits,
Speaker 4: then take the Patriots. And it did get to ten
Speaker 4: at some points at some places throughout the week, which
Speaker 4: means if you got that at worse, you pushed because
Speaker 4: for some reason, Kansas City took a kneel on fourth
Speaker 4: down with less than a minute left. But Denver still
Speaker 4: wants to run the ball a bit and New England's
Speaker 4: rushing defense is elite. I mean it's it doesn't get
Speaker 4: a lot of shine or credit because of the way
Speaker 4: the rest of the team is playing, but they are
Speaker 4: able to shut down opposing rushing attacks. And I don't
Speaker 4: think the Denver passing attack is really good enough to
Speaker 4: take advantage of that particular weakness. So in a low
Speaker 4: scoring game, give me, give me the Patriots again.
Speaker 1: Begrudgingly. I'll tell you what. Just run to the Javonte
Speaker 1: Williams under because bywar's a layer at an under. We
Speaker 1: talked about that on the Prop Show this week. Louis
Speaker 1: before was the under on all the Pittsburgh running back
Speaker 1: to that one worked out like, just keep taking the
Speaker 1: unders on the RBS against New England. That's the best
Speaker 1: bet in this game period. End of story. Next one
Speaker 1: here in Las Vegas at Kansas City. Speaking of the
Speaker 1: Kansasity Chiefs. They are now nine to five, a victory,
Speaker 1: but still not a happy one for Patrick Mahomes. Six
Speaker 1: and eight are the Vegas Raiders after putting up a
Speaker 1: sixty three spot. Now they're going to go to Kansas City.
Speaker 1: Typically this would be a smash here, and look though,
Speaker 1: Vegas is showing confidence a ten points here on the
Speaker 1: side of the Kansas City Chiefs. Forty three is the
Speaker 1: number for this one plus three seventy five for the
Speaker 1: Raiders on the money line, Sam, The Kansas City Chiefs
Speaker 1: win games, but they still continue to drop passes everywhere?
Speaker 1: Canarius Tony more nonsense? Even Kelsey had a drop there
Speaker 1: in the end zone. I mean, Patrick Mahomes and companies
Speaker 1: certainly look like a team that is struggling, despite the
Speaker 1: fact that they are still very much in the hunt
Speaker 1: for the number one seeds. So can they win by
Speaker 1: ten at home against the Raiders?
Speaker 3: Can they?
Speaker 4: Yes? I mean they were down fourteen nothing to the
Speaker 4: Raiders in their first matchup a couple of weeks ago,
Speaker 4: end up winning by by fourteen points. The I mean
Speaker 4: what Vegas did on on Thursday night. Granted it again
Speaker 4: it was against the Chargers team that we talked about,
Speaker 4: but I can't I can't invest on either side. I mean,
Speaker 4: like Mahomes is just I got a feel for the guy,
Speaker 4: like he is frustrated, like it's and I don't blame him.
Speaker 4: So the Chiefs offense still in a funk. I mean,
Speaker 4: I think they are. There are things that I mean,
Speaker 4: I want to say the Drops are not going to
Speaker 4: hold week to week, but they continue to do so,
Speaker 4: I mean Rashi Rice is really the only reliable player
Speaker 4: on that offense right now. I mean Travis Kelce even
Speaker 4: it looks like the Ages is catching up to him
Speaker 4: a bit. So I'm sticking with some player props on
Speaker 4: this one instead of a Sider total.
Speaker 1: Fair enough, this is the first game of the triple
Speaker 1: header on Christmas Day. Pat your thoughts on this one here,
Speaker 1: confidence of Casey.
Speaker 2: No, I'm gonna echo Sam's sentiments completely on this one.
Speaker 2: I just so Andy Reid has totally had the Raiders
Speaker 2: number since he took the Chiefs job.
Speaker 3: Like.
Speaker 2: The Chiefs have won nine of their last ten against
Speaker 2: the Raiders. They've covered six of those ten games. But
Speaker 2: I just can't lay double digit points with the Chiefs
Speaker 2: offense not firing on all cylinders. And we know they're
Speaker 2: probably not going to have Isaiah Pacheco back from this one,
Speaker 2: so they're you know, parceling out the running game to
Speaker 2: Clyde Edwards Hilaire and Jerck McKinnon. And the Raiders have
Speaker 2: been playing really hard for Antonio Pierre.
Speaker 3: So I can't lay ten.
Speaker 2: But I'm not betting the Raiders with their tortured recent
Speaker 2: history against the Chiefs.
Speaker 1: All right, the middle game here, four thirty Eastern New York, Philadelphia.
Speaker 1: So you get the Giants and Eagles. Eagles right now
Speaker 1: minus ten and a half favorites at home forty three
Speaker 1: and a half is the number plus four hundred if
Speaker 1: you like the cutlets upset. Look, you know, the Eagles
Speaker 1: are I think, still a very superior team, no matter
Speaker 1: what people are saying about them currently. We'll see what
Speaker 1: happens with them against Seattle tonight. No, they have problem
Speaker 1: in the secondary. But look, the Giants, you know, kind
Speaker 1: of got checked this past weekend by the Saints going
Speaker 1: on the road to Philadelphia. That doesn't seem like a
Speaker 1: good day at the office for the Giants.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Joe, I mean like, I saw this line and
Speaker 2: I went through a mental checklist of what I might
Speaker 2: be missing. I spent ten minutes like, why is this
Speaker 2: line not higher? Maybe it's because of the ambiguity with
Speaker 2: Jalen Hurts status for this week.
Speaker 3: I think that has something to do.
Speaker 2: But even if he misses this week, I would imagine
Speaker 2: he's back next week.
Speaker 3: So I don't know it, just it seems.
Speaker 2: Like there is value at the Eagles, just the vastly
Speaker 2: superior team in this matchup.
Speaker 1: All right, Sam, vastly superior Eagles. Is that confidence enough
Speaker 1: for you to go ten and a half?
Speaker 4: No, it's not. The One thing I'm going to bet
Speaker 4: on is Boston Scott anytime touchdown. This man is the
Speaker 4: Giant killer. He scores a touchdown almost every single time
Speaker 4: that they play the Giants. That that's my one bet
Speaker 4: for this game. They're a little stocking Christmas money on.
Speaker 2: He's had like two carries in the last five weeks,
Speaker 2: so that's a pretty bold bet.
Speaker 4: But hey, you know how many carries you need to
Speaker 4: get a single touchdown? One? All right?
Speaker 1: Last one here? This is I mean, some people calling
Speaker 1: this a Super Bowl preview, I don't know. I mean,
Speaker 1: Baltimore Ravens might be eleven to three, but they bother me.
Speaker 1: I don't have elite level confidence in the Ravens. They're
Speaker 1: going to San Fran was also eleven and three. The
Speaker 1: san fran Is five and a half point favorites. Forty
Speaker 1: five is the number for this one plus one eighty
Speaker 1: on the Baltimore side. Sam, I'm gonna keep this simple.
Speaker 1: I think you lock in San Fran now in the
Speaker 1: five and a half. I think San Franz is a
Speaker 1: superior team. Like I said, to everybody, not just the
Speaker 1: NFC teams, the AFC teams especially, but the rest of
Speaker 1: the NFL. They just feel like a team that is
Speaker 1: just locked in right now. That pass rush has changed
Speaker 1: the whole configuration of this defense that was struggling a
Speaker 1: little bit in the earlier part of the year and
Speaker 1: making up for maybe some of the things they're lacking
Speaker 1: in the secondary. I don't know, man, I don't know
Speaker 1: how you stop this incredible offense of the San Francisco
Speaker 1: forty nine or so. I like this five and a half.
Speaker 1: To me, it's not enough.
Speaker 4: Sam, Yeah, this one was tough. I didn't realize this
Speaker 4: got out to five and a half already. I think
Speaker 4: I much preferred at four and a half. I think
Speaker 4: if you like the Ravens, then the money line is
Speaker 4: the bad. Again. I've mentioned a couple times Lamar Jackson's
Speaker 4: performance against NFC teams. The forty nine ers secondary is
Speaker 4: still a little banged up, and I mean some of
Speaker 4: the plays that Lamar Jackson is making are just incredible.
Speaker 4: I mean, he's keeping that team alive. Some of their
Speaker 4: defensive playmakers that they have are playing really well. Van
Speaker 4: Clowney having a solid season, So I think again, if
Speaker 4: you're on the forty nine ers that I wouldn't take
Speaker 4: it past five and a half. If it gets out
Speaker 4: to six, I'm probably not touching. But Baltimore, if you
Speaker 4: do like them, then taking them on the money line
Speaker 4: to win outright is the way to go.
Speaker 1: Pat. Maybe I'm crazy. Sam is probably the voice of
Speaker 1: reason here. I am a little bit more in the oh,
Speaker 1: how would you say it? Bold? Bold? Maybe is the
Speaker 1: word for it. I think sanfred is gonna win this
Speaker 1: game by double digits. Like I'm taking alternate spreads. I'm
Speaker 1: looking for San Fran to crush them at home. This
Speaker 1: is in Baltimore. Maybe I have a different set of circumstances,
Speaker 1: but I don't know, man, I do not have faith
Speaker 1: in Baltimore.
Speaker 2: So if I'm going to be a contrarian, Joe, I'm
Speaker 2: going to you know, underscore the point that Sam made
Speaker 2: about how well Lamar Jackson is historically done against the
Speaker 2: NFC teams he faces, who are not used to seeing
Speaker 2: him on a regular basis and have a hard time
Speaker 2: handling his style of play, which is truly unique. And
Speaker 2: like also the fact that uh you know, the Ravens
Speaker 2: are a really good team, and I just I don't
Speaker 2: like laying that many points to a team as good
Speaker 2: as the Ravens.
Speaker 3: But Joe, I hear you, man like Evan's.
Speaker 1: A really good team, Pat, or are they just a
Speaker 1: good team compared to the rest of the AFC, which
Speaker 1: is a little mid.
Speaker 2: I think, to be honest, I think they're a pretty
Speaker 2: good team. Like there, I would stop short of calling
Speaker 2: them a great team, but they're a good team. The
Speaker 2: other thing is, Joe, let's remember that the forty nine
Speaker 2: Ers did have a three game losing streak, so this
Speaker 2: is not an invincible team. They are hitting on all
Speaker 2: cylinders right now. They are just totally cooking. And I
Speaker 2: understand I'm not betting against the forty nine ers right now,
Speaker 2: but I also don't want to lay five, five and
Speaker 2: a half points to the Ravens.
Speaker 3: So I'm gonna I'm gonna stay away from this one.
Speaker 1: All right. I will be on my island right off
Speaker 1: the coast of northern California, sipping the wine and eating
Speaker 1: the cheese. That is the forty nine Ers. Ive already
Speaker 1: bet them to win the Super Bowl. I've bet them
Speaker 1: win the NFC. I cash out a couple of weeks
Speaker 1: ago the Eagles bets that I had, which was great
Speaker 1: because I still got my money back there and I
Speaker 1: have chosen a new ship. It's the forty nine ers.
Speaker 1: All I wanted them to do was go and prove
Speaker 1: to me that they could beat the Eagles. They prove
Speaker 1: that and it's been no looking back ever since. So
Speaker 1: give me Sam for a lot of games, a lot
Speaker 1: of fun holiday games to get too. Also, don't forget
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