WEBVTT - Free Picks for EVERY Week 16 NFL Game (Ep. 409)

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome in, everybody to betting pros. It's time to place

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<v Speaker 1>your bets. It's be Joey pa joe Piza, Piere. It's

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<v Speaker 1>time to look ahead to week sixteen in the NFL,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm glad. I'm very glad because Week fifteen was brutal.

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<v Speaker 1>I hated it. I took so many l's I can't

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<v Speaker 1>even stand up. But thank god Cooper Cupp kind of

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<v Speaker 1>saved my day a little bit, little ladder bet. Other

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<v Speaker 1>than that, I don't want to see week fifteen, in

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<v Speaker 1>the words of Kevin McAllister, my whole life. That's right.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want to see any of you jerks again. But

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<v Speaker 1>these two jerks I love, Pat fitz Morris, Sam Hoppin.

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<v Speaker 1>They're not jerks, they're great people. They're gonna help us through.

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<v Speaker 1>Take a look at the week ahead. We've got Thursday action,

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<v Speaker 1>YouTube channel. Gentlemen, I don't want to talk about Week fifteen.

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<v Speaker 1>It's over. It's done pretty much. I got one more

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<v Speaker 1>game left, hopefully that will kill me. We'll see. But

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<v Speaker 1>let's look ahead. Let's take a look, and let's start

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<v Speaker 1>here with basically is a playoff game here, pat We've

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<v Speaker 1>got the Los Angeles Rams seven and seven taking on

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<v Speaker 1>the New Orleans Saints. This one's in LA. The Rams

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<v Speaker 1>are four point favorites. That feels right to me. Forty

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<v Speaker 1>four and a half is the number that feels right

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<v Speaker 1>to me. At minus one ten. The best number you

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<v Speaker 1>can get right now for New Orleans is plus one

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<v Speaker 1>seventy five. Pat. You know, the Rams a good road

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<v Speaker 1>almost victory against the Ravens. They fell a little short

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<v Speaker 1>and no tee. Last week they looked good, but again

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<v Speaker 1>kind of took their foot off the gas, which worries

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<v Speaker 1>me a little bit. New Orleans coming off of big win.

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<v Speaker 1>They are right in the thick of this playoff, so

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<v Speaker 1>are the Rams. What do you make of this line here,

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<v Speaker 1>any early value at all on Thursday night? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>I like the Rams, Joe. They just have a much

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<v Speaker 2>better offense than the Saints. They can move it through

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<v Speaker 2>the air with Matthew Stafford throwing the Cooper Cup and

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<v Speaker 2>Pooka Nakua, and they can move it on the ground

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<v Speaker 2>with Kyron Williams.

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<v Speaker 3>The Saints just the Saints have struggled in the red zone.

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<v Speaker 2>And the Saints have also not been a very good

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<v Speaker 2>team against the spread this year. They are four nine

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<v Speaker 2>and one against the number, whereas the Rams are eight

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<v Speaker 2>five and one against the number, So they have been

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<v Speaker 2>a good spread team.

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<v Speaker 3>I think there's a little bit of value on the

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<v Speaker 3>Rams here.

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<v Speaker 1>It does feel like a little bit also that balance

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<v Speaker 1>attack Sam of the Rams I think is really coming

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<v Speaker 1>along nicely. Cooper Cup's health starting to improve. I think

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<v Speaker 1>in the last couple of weeks that's been a huge positive.

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<v Speaker 1>Matthew Stafford's looked very sharp. But Kien Williams running the

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<v Speaker 1>football in the last month or so has been really

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<v Speaker 1>I think the difference maker of this Rams offense looking

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<v Speaker 1>as good as it has and also getting back into

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<v Speaker 1>this playoff picture. So do you see value on the

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<v Speaker 1>Rams still at four? Is that our too much for you?

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<v Speaker 4>I do? I made this Rams by five and a half,

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<v Speaker 4>I think again. Sean McVay has this Rams offense clicking

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<v Speaker 4>on all cylinders. The Saints pass defense has been pretty

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<v Speaker 4>solid so far this year, at least over the past

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<v Speaker 4>several weeks, but the only competent passing game that they've

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<v Speaker 4>played has been Detroit in the last month. But New

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<v Speaker 4>Orleans rushing defense has been getting worse and worse. Los

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<v Speaker 4>Angeles continues to want to run the ball, like you

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<v Speaker 4>said with Kyron Williams, so I don't think he'll have

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<v Speaker 4>any issue diicing up this Saints front seven. So I

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<v Speaker 4>like the Rams a ton here.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, let's take a look at Saturday's first contest

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<v Speaker 1>at four thirty, you got Pittsburgh hosting the Cincinnati Bengals.

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<v Speaker 1>Now the Bengals are road two and a half favorites,

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<v Speaker 1>despite the fact that you know, again no Joe Burrowy

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<v Speaker 1>got Jake Browning playing, but Browning's played relatively well. Here

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<v Speaker 1>Jamar Chase's shoulder in question right now as we're recording this,

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<v Speaker 1>we don't have a lot of definitive evidence if he's

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<v Speaker 1>going to play or not yet. Too early thirty eight

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<v Speaker 1>and a half is the nine Pittsburgh at plus one eighteen, Sam,

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<v Speaker 1>somehow the Pittsburgh Steelers fired Matt Cannon and the offense

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<v Speaker 1>got worse. It feels like, I don't know how that's possible.

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<v Speaker 1>I understand Getty Pickott getting hurt probably, you know, did

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<v Speaker 1>not help that cause. But you know, it's really tough

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<v Speaker 1>here to look at the Cincinnati Bengals in their circumstance

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<v Speaker 1>being road favors, but at the same time at Pittsburgh

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<v Speaker 1>feels right because Pittsburgh has been unable to handle their business.

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<v Speaker 1>So is this just the right call here? And if so,

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<v Speaker 1>do you feel good about investing in the Bengals?

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<v Speaker 3>I do.

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<v Speaker 4>If I were to take a side. I picked the Bengals.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, Jake Browning continues to prove all the haters wrong.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, looked a little out of sorts in the

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<v Speaker 4>first half against Minnesota this past weekend, but then really

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<v Speaker 4>turned it on in the second half against a Brian

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<v Speaker 4>Flores defense that has been playing exceptionally well this year.

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<v Speaker 4>The Jamar Chase injury does concern me a little bit

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<v Speaker 4>because Browning has thrived off of Yak in terms of

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<v Speaker 4>his production, and Jamar check Chase offers a lot of that.

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<v Speaker 4>But that said, the Pittsburgh defense just got diced apart

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<v Speaker 4>by Gardner Minshew with someone named DJ Montgomery as his

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<v Speaker 4>wide receiver won for most of the game. Cincinnati also

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<v Speaker 4>lost Dj Reader in this game this past weekend, which

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<v Speaker 4>is a huge blow to their defense. But I think,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, Cincinnati is just a slight tier above Pittsburgh

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<v Speaker 4>at this point.

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<v Speaker 1>Your thoughts here, pat because again the you know Pittsburgh Steelers,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, the great coach. Theoretically, that home field advantage

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<v Speaker 1>it seems to have dissipated. They lost back to back

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<v Speaker 1>games at home to the Arizona Cardinals and then to

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<v Speaker 1>the New England Patriots. So you know, I think we've

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<v Speaker 1>got to change our mindset. There's value on the Steelers

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<v Speaker 1>if you want to go take them on the money line,

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<v Speaker 1>but not that much at plus one eighteen. So I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know. It just feels like the Bengals, and that's boring,

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<v Speaker 1>but it feels right.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Can you imagine, Joe if someone had told you back

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<v Speaker 2>in August that the Bengals were going to lose Joe

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<v Speaker 2>Burrow to a season and injury and they would go

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<v Speaker 2>into Pittsburgh in Week sixteen and be favored by two points.

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<v Speaker 2>That just seems kind of unfathomable. But I get it

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<v Speaker 2>because the Steelers offense look completely broken. Against the Colts

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<v Speaker 2>in Week fifteen. They averaged four yards per play. Pittsburgh

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<v Speaker 2>was penalized eight times for one hundred and one yards,

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<v Speaker 2>so they had more penalty yardage than they had rushing

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<v Speaker 2>yardage seventy four yards on the ground. This just seems

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<v Speaker 2>like a team that's falling apart. The Steelers beat the

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<v Speaker 2>Bengals sixteen to ten in Week twelve in Cincinnati, so

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<v Speaker 2>maybe that gives the Bengals a little extra motivation. I

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<v Speaker 2>do like the Bengals. I don't know if I'm going

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<v Speaker 2>to bet it yet, because what scares me is that

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<v Speaker 2>we have seen the Steelers get outplayed and outgained on

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<v Speaker 2>a bunch of occasions this season, only for them to

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<v Speaker 2>win the game. Now, it hasn't happened lately, like the

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<v Speaker 2>luck is caught up with them lately. But so yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>like in the pools where I have to make a pick,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to take the Bengals, but I'm not quite

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<v Speaker 2>sure there's enough value to bet the Bengals.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think you might go some individual props in

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<v Speaker 1>this game instead. Speaking of an after though, I'll go.

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<v Speaker 4>Ahead and real quick before we move on. Actually, just

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<v Speaker 4>got a notification that Mason Rudolph is going to be

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<v Speaker 4>starting for Pittsburgh on Saturday, and so I think that

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<v Speaker 4>probably moves the line in favor of the Bengals a

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<v Speaker 4>little bit, not much. I don't know if it crosses three.

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<v Speaker 2>But yeah, we're getting Rudolf for Christmas to guide the

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<v Speaker 2>Steelers offense with his nose so bright it's perfect.

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<v Speaker 1>That's why you download my playbook too. Make sure you

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<v Speaker 1>stay on top of all this news as it breaks.

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<v Speaker 1>The Chargers are at home. They're taking on the Buffalo Bills.

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<v Speaker 1>Coming off a huge victory, Buffalo looking like they're starting

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<v Speaker 1>to figure it out. Joe Brady Cohen plays balancing the offense,

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<v Speaker 1>getting James Cook the football. What a concept. They are

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<v Speaker 1>now eight and six. The excuse me, the Chargers are

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<v Speaker 1>five and nine. This is a twelve and a half

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<v Speaker 1>point spread here where the Buffalo Bills are favored by

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<v Speaker 1>twelve and a half on the road. Forty two and

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<v Speaker 1>a half is the number plus five twenty five a

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<v Speaker 1>huge number here for the upset of by the Chargers.

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<v Speaker 1>We're gonna get East and stick. We don't know if

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<v Speaker 1>we're gonna be a Keenan Allen. It's a big number here,

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<v Speaker 1>but after that dominant performance, it feels like pat the

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<v Speaker 1>Buffalo Bills are back on track. Is twelve and a

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<v Speaker 1>half comfortable enough for you to still invest in Buffalo?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh boy, people have been gobbling up the Bills, Joe,

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<v Speaker 2>Because I just checked DraftKings.

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<v Speaker 3>It's fourteen right now.

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<v Speaker 1>Moved again And it is.

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<v Speaker 2>Like policy that I do not lay that many points

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<v Speaker 2>in an NFL game.

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<v Speaker 3>But like, I don't know how anyone could.

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<v Speaker 2>Possibly bet the Chargers after what we saw against the Raiders, Like,

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<v Speaker 2>does anyone really think that the Chargers are gonna circle

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<v Speaker 2>the wagons for Brandon Staley like that looked like a

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<v Speaker 2>team that was waving.

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<v Speaker 3>The white flag last Thursday night.

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<v Speaker 2>So the Bills, after beating the Cowboys, they now have

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<v Speaker 2>this reasonable path to the playoffs and they can't afford

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<v Speaker 2>to slip up here. Hard to imagine them letting their

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<v Speaker 2>guard down for this one. If I'm gonna bet it,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna bet the Bills. I just don't know if

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<v Speaker 2>I can lay fourteen points in an NFL game. It

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<v Speaker 2>never feels comfortable.

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<v Speaker 1>We see that head coach bounce when they get fired

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<v Speaker 1>quite a bit, but so far in Carolina we didn't

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<v Speaker 1>see it, and Sam, this doesn't feel like another time

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<v Speaker 1>we're going to see it either.

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<v Speaker 4>No, the Bills are quite possibly the best team in

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<v Speaker 4>the AFC, and with the quarterback that the Chargers have

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<v Speaker 4>now quite possibly the worst team in the AFC, fourteen

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<v Speaker 4>points is a lot, but that's I mean, they should

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<v Speaker 4>have no issue with that. I do think if you

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<v Speaker 4>do want to invest in the Bills and it don't

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<v Speaker 4>want to do it on the spread. Josh Allen MVP

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<v Speaker 4>at fourteen to one right now. I mean, I know

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<v Speaker 4>everyone sort of thinks that Rock Party has locked it

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<v Speaker 4>up right now, but they still San Francisco still has

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<v Speaker 4>a couple of tough games to end the season. The

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<v Speaker 4>Buffalo Bills could win out and take over the division

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<v Speaker 4>lead by the end of the season. So I mean

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<v Speaker 4>he's playing exceptionally well. I think voters might look for

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<v Speaker 4>reasons not to vote for Purty given all the supporting

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<v Speaker 4>cast and everything like that. So I think MVP right now,

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<v Speaker 4>Josh Allen is probably the best value on the board.

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<v Speaker 1>Certainly an interesting one. A lot of quarterback chaos potentially

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<v Speaker 1>in this next matchup. We don't know if Gino's going

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<v Speaker 1>to play tonight yet game time decision. We don't know

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<v Speaker 1>how he's going to make it through that game. If

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<v Speaker 1>he does play, then Will Levis is going for an

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<v Speaker 1>MRI on his ankle. So the Tennessee Titans are at

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<v Speaker 1>home in Week sixteen, two and a half point underdogs

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<v Speaker 1>at home Seattle two and a half point favorites. You're

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<v Speaker 1>getting forty two and a half is the number plus

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<v Speaker 1>one twenty on Tennessee. My early lean here Sam is

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<v Speaker 1>Tennessee because that pivot point to quarterback. I feel much

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<v Speaker 1>better about Tannehill than I do about Drew Locke, and

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<v Speaker 1>again Tennessee is at home, So to me, I think

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<v Speaker 1>this is actually an interesting game to kind of jump

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<v Speaker 1>on early before you get some more potential news that

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<v Speaker 1>could change this one a little bit. What are your

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<v Speaker 1>thoughts on this game here at Tennessee Titans in the

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<v Speaker 1>Seattle Seahawks.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, this one was a tough one to get a

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<v Speaker 4>grasp on given the quarterback uncertainty. I agree that Will

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<v Speaker 4>Levis to Ryan Tannehill isn't really much of a change.

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<v Speaker 4>I do think the under for this game is in play.

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<v Speaker 4>Both neither of these teams play particularly fast. They've shown

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<v Speaker 4>that their offenses can sputter at times. The defenses aren't great,

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<v Speaker 4>so that's probably the one concern. But I just I

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<v Speaker 4>don't really have an early lean on a side for

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<v Speaker 4>this right now and think this could be just an

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<v Speaker 4>ugly game from two offenses that have struggled.

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<v Speaker 1>Pack Can you make any money on the ugly?

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<v Speaker 2>We've got the West Coast team going to the Eastern

0:11:54.400 --> 0:11:57.800
<v Speaker 2>time zone for an early afternoon game, so like that's

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<v Speaker 2>the formula and I'm not going to bet the Seahawks.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just a matter of whether I want to bet

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<v Speaker 2>the Titans. I don't think they are going to quit

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<v Speaker 2>on Mike Vrabel, even though they've been eliminated from the

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<v Speaker 2>playoffs officially. But with Will Levis getting hurt, we're gonna

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<v Speaker 2>get a rusty Ryan Tannehill most likely at quarterback. I

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<v Speaker 2>kind of agree with you, Joe. If I'm gonna bet it,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna bet the Titans. But right now I'm leaning

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<v Speaker 2>towards just walking away.

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<v Speaker 3>From this one.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, Garner Minshak going off a great game is

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<v Speaker 1>going to take the Colts into Atlanta. This one's in Atlanta.

0:12:30.160 --> 0:12:33.199
<v Speaker 1>Atlanta is two point underdogs at home. Forty four and

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<v Speaker 1>a half is the number for this game. You get

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<v Speaker 1>Indian at minus one thirty Atlanta plus one ten fits. Look,

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<v Speaker 1>this is a huge game for the Colts. Atlanta is

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<v Speaker 1>hanging on by a thread here, still relevant, but still,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, they have got to come up with a

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<v Speaker 1>big victory. I know Ritters played better at home than

0:12:49.280 --> 0:12:51.680
<v Speaker 1>he's played on the road. It was a disasterately loss

0:12:51.679 --> 0:12:55.079
<v Speaker 1>of the Panthers. This is a dangerous game for many

0:12:55.080 --> 0:12:58.040
<v Speaker 1>many reasons, just looking at the quarterbacks, looking at the

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<v Speaker 1>trend lines, all these things. So that being said, taking

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<v Speaker 1>all that danger into account. You see any early value

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<v Speaker 1>in Atlanta, Indy.

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<v Speaker 3>I do. I like the Colts.

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<v Speaker 2>The Falcons are four and ten against the spread this year,

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<v Speaker 2>like they have been a terrible spread team, and they

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<v Speaker 2>have to be reeling emotionally after losing a game to

0:13:16.640 --> 0:13:20.079
<v Speaker 2>the Panthers that really damaged their playoff hopes. They needed

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<v Speaker 2>that one badly. Also, Arthur Smith, Joe good Lord. The

0:13:25.880 --> 0:13:30.480
<v Speaker 2>Falcons ran fifty one offensive plays yesterday and Bijon Robinson,

0:13:30.559 --> 0:13:34.080
<v Speaker 2>Drake London, and Kyle Pitts either touch the ball or

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<v Speaker 2>were intended targets on seventeen of those fifty one plays.

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<v Speaker 2>So you've got three early first round draft picks selected

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<v Speaker 2>to power the engines of your offense, three of them,

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<v Speaker 2>and they're only being, you know, getting opportunities on one

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<v Speaker 2>third of your offensive snaps. I know this is a

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<v Speaker 2>betting show, not a fantasy show, but Arthur Smith is

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<v Speaker 2>not someone in whom I want to invest my money,

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<v Speaker 2>and in fact, I'm very happy to be against him.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, Sam, are you happy to bet against Arthur

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<v Speaker 1>Smith and the Falcons as well?

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<v Speaker 4>Yep? It's it's death taxes and Shane Stiken being a

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<v Speaker 4>coaching mismatch this week against Arthur Smith. To Pat's point,

0:14:16.080 --> 0:14:19.600
<v Speaker 4>Michael Pittman in the concussion protocol, but they'll have the

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<v Speaker 4>extra day given they played on Saturday and then play

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<v Speaker 4>the following Sunday. Stiken also said that there is a

0:14:27.680 --> 0:14:31.680
<v Speaker 4>chance they get Jonathan Taylor back in this game as well,

0:14:31.720 --> 0:14:35.040
<v Speaker 4>which would be huge if if Zach Moss is out

0:14:35.200 --> 0:14:39.440
<v Speaker 4>as well. The Falcons just couldn't do anything against the Panthers.

0:14:39.480 --> 0:14:42.400
<v Speaker 4>And I know it was rainy and that game was gross,

0:14:42.440 --> 0:14:47.080
<v Speaker 4>but rain typically helps the offense. And Desmond Ritter just

0:14:47.120 --> 0:14:52.280
<v Speaker 4>had another terrible interception in opponent territory. They can't really

0:14:52.280 --> 0:14:55.920
<v Speaker 4>do anything there. I continue to think that the Colts

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<v Speaker 4>are they are to an extent over you know, playing

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<v Speaker 4>their their talent and to a point, but they're doing

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<v Speaker 4>so and stacking up these wins. So I love the

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<v Speaker 4>excuse me the Colts in this situation.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, let's move on to the next game. Here

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<v Speaker 1>on our Slaves, we continue to break down Week sixteen

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<v Speaker 1>in the NFL here on BP Cleveland and Houston. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>hopefully you get CJ. Stroud back in this game. Cleveland

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<v Speaker 1>is nine and five. Sam, I know you love Cleveland.

0:15:26.080 --> 0:15:28.200
<v Speaker 1>I know you love that bet that we were talking

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<v Speaker 1>about not that long ago. They found a way somehow

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<v Speaker 1>to hang on to that victory at home against Chicago yesterday.

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<v Speaker 1>Houston case Keenum, Well, it's okay. We're still gonna be

0:15:38.280 --> 0:15:40.520
<v Speaker 1>winning football games no matter who they lose. It's amazing

0:15:40.600 --> 0:15:43.280
<v Speaker 1>Houston Texans figure it out. Dimiico Ryan is just a

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<v Speaker 1>terrific job with that team. Houston at home minus two

0:15:46.640 --> 0:15:48.160
<v Speaker 1>and a half. Forty two and a half is the

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<v Speaker 1>number plus one fifteen on the money line for Cleveland.

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<v Speaker 1>So that being said, do you have any early leans

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<v Speaker 1>on this game because this one is another one that

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<v Speaker 1>has huge playoff implication. Sam, Houston's at home, but we've

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<v Speaker 1>seen Houston in recent weeks also when the better competition

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<v Speaker 1>comes to town, they haven't looked quite as good.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah. I went back and forth on this one a

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<v Speaker 4>couple of times when when prepping this morning. I do

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<v Speaker 4>think CJ. Stroud is back in this game. Nico Collins

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<v Speaker 4>availability is another big factor in this, but it is

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<v Speaker 4>many as many passing yards as Joe Flacco is throwing

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<v Speaker 4>four I think it's making it seem like he's playing

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<v Speaker 4>better than he actually has since he's joined the Browns.

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<v Speaker 4>Among forty eight quarterbacks with at least seventy five dropbacks.

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<v Speaker 4>He ranks forty third in EPA per play, forty first

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<v Speaker 4>in success rate, forty third in CPOE, and thirtieth in

0:16:42.560 --> 0:16:47.240
<v Speaker 4>PFF passing great, So he's not really playing that well.

0:16:47.680 --> 0:16:50.520
<v Speaker 4>The Browns have come away with some wins, and the

0:16:50.560 --> 0:16:54.680
<v Speaker 4>Houston rushing defense has allowed a success rate over thirty

0:16:54.720 --> 0:16:57.880
<v Speaker 4>four percents just once in their last five games. They

0:16:57.880 --> 0:17:01.800
<v Speaker 4>stuffed Derrick Henry this past week. So this is a

0:17:01.880 --> 0:17:04.760
<v Speaker 4>game that I think that line of two and a

0:17:04.800 --> 0:17:09.000
<v Speaker 4>half is right about on. And certainly, if I'm betting

0:17:09.000 --> 0:17:12.080
<v Speaker 4>the Texans want to wait until we know more about CJ.

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<v Speaker 1>Stroud's health, pat I want to bet the Browns. I

0:17:16.400 --> 0:17:19.120
<v Speaker 1>think there's something against theefanski another side of the coach.

0:17:19.520 --> 0:17:22.760
<v Speaker 1>There's done a terrific job here with this team defense travels.

0:17:22.800 --> 0:17:25.760
<v Speaker 1>We've seen that with Cleveland before. I think despite some

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<v Speaker 1>of the injuries and the issues they've had, Flacco found

0:17:28.160 --> 0:17:30.040
<v Speaker 1>a way to make some plays. I feel like the

0:17:30.080 --> 0:17:31.840
<v Speaker 1>Browns feel like they've got a little bit of magic,

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<v Speaker 1>which is not something that the Cleveland fans are used

0:17:33.880 --> 0:17:36.520
<v Speaker 1>to seeing, but it feels that way and to me.

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<v Speaker 1>This is that statement game here where if you're Cleveland

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<v Speaker 1>and you're for real go in, you beat a young

0:17:41.440 --> 0:17:44.080
<v Speaker 1>Texans scene that's still very wet behind the ears and

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<v Speaker 1>plus one fifteen on the money line. I think that's

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<v Speaker 1>where the value is. And maybe to Sam's point, if

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<v Speaker 1>I like Cleveland, maybe I wait because if CJ. Stroud

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<v Speaker 1>is announcing this game, maybe that number changes a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit more and I even get something better than the

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<v Speaker 1>one to fifteen.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's not a bad premise. Joe bet the team

0:17:59.400 --> 0:18:02.639
<v Speaker 2>with the better defense in mid December late December, so

0:18:03.560 --> 0:18:06.800
<v Speaker 2>like I get that, and we've seen Joe Flacco, Like,

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<v Speaker 2>get this offense moving.

0:18:09.200 --> 0:18:10.399
<v Speaker 3>He is capable of moving it.

0:18:10.440 --> 0:18:13.080
<v Speaker 2>I mean he's averaging three hundred and thirteen passing yards

0:18:13.080 --> 0:18:17.040
<v Speaker 2>in his three starts. Unfortunately, Joe Flacco has also thrown

0:18:17.080 --> 0:18:20.240
<v Speaker 2>five interceptions in his three starts. And that's the thing

0:18:20.280 --> 0:18:23.680
<v Speaker 2>with Flacco, Like I'm kind of not eager to bet

0:18:23.680 --> 0:18:25.800
<v Speaker 2>a game with Joe Flacco because he is such a

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<v Speaker 2>wild card and he can just hand the other team

0:18:29.440 --> 0:18:33.040
<v Speaker 2>the game with his turnovers. But like he can also

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, if you get the combination of this Brown's

0:18:36.800 --> 0:18:39.720
<v Speaker 2>defense banged up as it may be playing like the

0:18:39.720 --> 0:18:43.440
<v Speaker 2>Browns defense and Joe Flacco clicking like they could they could,

0:18:43.480 --> 0:18:46.000
<v Speaker 2>even though this Houston team is overachieved all year, like

0:18:46.040 --> 0:18:48.040
<v Speaker 2>they could blow Houston out of the water, Like I

0:18:48.080 --> 0:18:50.520
<v Speaker 2>think the Browns have that sort of top end potential.

0:18:51.400 --> 0:18:53.720
<v Speaker 2>But right now, I mean, I just have no feel

0:18:53.720 --> 0:18:55.840
<v Speaker 2>for this one, Joe. I don't think I'm gonna play it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, no, I totally understand. I mean, these are two

0:18:58.680 --> 0:19:01.240
<v Speaker 1>teams that have show you high points and low points,

0:19:01.520 --> 0:19:03.920
<v Speaker 1>which always makes it tough. And again, looking in the road,

0:19:03.960 --> 0:19:05.800
<v Speaker 1>I'm looking at value. To me, if this game is

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<v Speaker 1>a coin flip, it's the value of the plus money

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<v Speaker 1>in Cleveland in the defense in December, as you point out,

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<v Speaker 1>but we'll see. I love CJ. Stroud, nobody loves Stroud

0:19:12.600 --> 0:19:14.520
<v Speaker 1>more than me. I just feel like Cleveland right now

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<v Speaker 1>is the side that I'm on to this one now.

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<v Speaker 1>I waited as long as I could because I know

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<v Speaker 1>yesterday was not a happy day for Packers fans. So

0:19:20.920 --> 0:19:23.080
<v Speaker 1>we're finally gonna get to the Packers here. I waited

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<v Speaker 1>let you guys get loose a little bit in the

0:19:25.240 --> 0:19:27.679
<v Speaker 1>bullpen before we put you on the mound. Green by

0:19:27.760 --> 0:19:30.400
<v Speaker 1>Packers six and eight going to Carolina two and twelve.

0:19:30.880 --> 0:19:33.400
<v Speaker 1>Carolina coming off of victory. Cremay coming off a loss,

0:19:33.400 --> 0:19:35.320
<v Speaker 1>would have thought that the Packers are four and a

0:19:35.359 --> 0:19:37.720
<v Speaker 1>half point favorites. Minus one ten thirty six is the

0:19:37.760 --> 0:19:40.359
<v Speaker 1>consensus number right now on betting pros. Minus two twenty

0:19:40.359 --> 0:19:42.280
<v Speaker 1>five for green Bay on the money line, plus one

0:19:42.359 --> 0:19:45.720
<v Speaker 1>eighty for Carolina. Pat get right game for the pack

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<v Speaker 1>You feel good about this one here?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh goodness, what a difference a week makes? Show?

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<v Speaker 2>Uh seven days and on this show a week ago,

0:19:54.280 --> 0:19:57.080
<v Speaker 2>Sam and I were full of holiday cheer, the Packers

0:19:57.080 --> 0:19:59.560
<v Speaker 2>at the inside track for a playoff spot, and they

0:19:59.560 --> 0:20:02.720
<v Speaker 2>have complete fallen on their faces with losses to the

0:20:02.760 --> 0:20:05.640
<v Speaker 2>Giants and Buccaneers. Joe, if we stay on this game

0:20:05.680 --> 0:20:07.560
<v Speaker 2>too long, Sam and I are going to start ranting

0:20:07.600 --> 0:20:09.640
<v Speaker 2>about how bad Packers defensive coordinated.

0:20:09.720 --> 0:20:11.280
<v Speaker 3>Joe, Barry, We'll get out.

0:20:11.359 --> 0:20:13.240
<v Speaker 1>I don't want to depress everybody, Yeah, I mean, look

0:20:13.280 --> 0:20:15.040
<v Speaker 1>like I don't want to bring you down this holiday season.

0:20:15.280 --> 0:20:18.919
<v Speaker 2>Suffice it to say that Baker Mayfield just posted the

0:20:18.960 --> 0:20:22.600
<v Speaker 2>only perfect passer rating a visiting quarterback has ever posted

0:20:22.640 --> 0:20:26.639
<v Speaker 2>at lambeau Field and PFF just gave the Packers the

0:20:26.840 --> 0:20:30.040
<v Speaker 2>worst pass coverage grade of any team in any game

0:20:30.080 --> 0:20:34.080
<v Speaker 2>over the last five NFL season. So yeah, I mean

0:20:35.119 --> 0:20:37.679
<v Speaker 2>not feeling totally great about this team right now. I

0:20:37.720 --> 0:20:41.000
<v Speaker 2>don't like either side. I'm thinking of betting the over

0:20:41.160 --> 0:20:43.359
<v Speaker 2>in part because of my lack of confidence in Joe

0:20:43.359 --> 0:20:46.320
<v Speaker 2>Berry and the Green Bay defense. So yeah, just move

0:20:46.359 --> 0:20:47.760
<v Speaker 2>on from me, please, Joe.

0:20:48.440 --> 0:20:52.000
<v Speaker 1>Sam pat has asked me to push the ball into

0:20:52.040 --> 0:20:54.159
<v Speaker 1>your side of the court, so the floor is yours.

0:20:54.960 --> 0:20:57.680
<v Speaker 1>Look it's Carolina. I know they came out with a victory,

0:20:57.720 --> 0:21:01.160
<v Speaker 1>but let's not go crazy here, hackers. Get right, Yes,

0:21:01.280 --> 0:21:03.560
<v Speaker 1>come on, boys, let's get let's let's let's get that

0:21:03.640 --> 0:21:04.920
<v Speaker 1>cheese head back on. Come on.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I mean, I think the Packers will win, but

0:21:07.880 --> 0:21:11.600
<v Speaker 4>I'm not confident enough to take them on the road

0:21:11.680 --> 0:21:15.840
<v Speaker 4>against the spread. They've allowed six I don't even need

0:21:15.840 --> 0:21:17.960
<v Speaker 4>to say all these stats that tell how bad the

0:21:18.000 --> 0:21:20.280
<v Speaker 4>Packers defense has been the last couple of weeks. Here,

0:21:20.480 --> 0:21:23.119
<v Speaker 4>here's the crezy. Here's the one of the worst ones.

0:21:23.280 --> 0:21:26.399
<v Speaker 4>The Buccaneers had a point seventy two ep a per

0:21:26.440 --> 0:21:30.480
<v Speaker 4>play on pass attempts, so every four pass attempts they're

0:21:30.520 --> 0:21:33.600
<v Speaker 4>expected to score about three points. I mean, it was

0:21:34.359 --> 0:21:36.639
<v Speaker 4>it was so bad. And I understand you. You traded

0:21:36.640 --> 0:21:42.440
<v Speaker 4>away Rustull Douglas, you don't have Gyr Alexander, but something's

0:21:42.440 --> 0:21:45.920
<v Speaker 4>gotta change and you can't just be sitting back playing

0:21:45.960 --> 0:21:50.879
<v Speaker 4>soft zone defense and expect things to happen. Uh. And

0:21:50.920 --> 0:21:55.440
<v Speaker 4>I think Bryce Young made some decent passes this past weekend.

0:21:55.480 --> 0:21:59.160
<v Speaker 4>He certainly certainly is showing more lately that he can

0:21:59.320 --> 0:22:01.800
<v Speaker 4>scramble get out of the pocket, and Green Bay has

0:22:01.800 --> 0:22:06.040
<v Speaker 4>struggled with that as well the past several weeks. So again,

0:22:06.080 --> 0:22:08.919
<v Speaker 4>I think Green Bay wins the game, but I'm not

0:22:09.119 --> 0:22:11.240
<v Speaker 4>confident to take the four points there.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, all right, that's it for the depressing part of

0:22:14.600 --> 0:22:16.280
<v Speaker 1>the show. We're going to get happy again. The New

0:22:16.359 --> 0:22:18.439
<v Speaker 1>York Jets. They're eliminated from the playoffs. They're at home

0:22:18.480 --> 0:22:20.800
<v Speaker 1>against the Washington Commanders. The Jets are five and nine,

0:22:21.119 --> 0:22:23.320
<v Speaker 1>the Commanders are four and ten. The Jets are three

0:22:23.320 --> 0:22:27.760
<v Speaker 1>point favorites now after getting shut out by the Miami Dolphins.

0:22:27.800 --> 0:22:30.280
<v Speaker 1>Zach Wilson went from player of the week to pariah

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<v Speaker 1>of the week. And Aaron Rodgers wants to get cleared

0:22:32.640 --> 0:22:34.399
<v Speaker 1>from practice, but I don't know if it matters now

0:22:34.440 --> 0:22:36.080
<v Speaker 1>if he still wants to come back, does he want

0:22:36.080 --> 0:22:37.920
<v Speaker 1>to prove a point and push the envelope? Who knows

0:22:38.080 --> 0:22:40.439
<v Speaker 1>thirty eight is the number plus one thirty five on

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<v Speaker 1>the Washington side. That's where I want to live on

0:22:42.320 --> 0:22:45.160
<v Speaker 1>this one, the plus one thirty five on the Washington side. Sam,

0:22:45.200 --> 0:22:47.200
<v Speaker 1>what do you think you're getting crazy with me with

0:22:47.240 --> 0:22:48.399
<v Speaker 1>the Washington Commanders or why?

0:22:48.840 --> 0:22:51.560
<v Speaker 4>I mean, I don't even think it's getting that crazy.

0:22:51.600 --> 0:22:55.760
<v Speaker 4>I don't know who's playing quarterback for the Jets. I

0:22:55.800 --> 0:23:00.600
<v Speaker 4>think Zach Wilson probably gives them the best chance to win,

0:23:00.760 --> 0:23:05.480
<v Speaker 4>but he suffered a concussion yesterday Washington, I don't think

0:23:05.800 --> 0:23:10.760
<v Speaker 4>if I remember correctly, Sam Howell getting benched wasn't because

0:23:10.760 --> 0:23:13.199
<v Speaker 4>of injury. It seemed like they were just sort of

0:23:13.280 --> 0:23:15.720
<v Speaker 4>out of the game and Ron Rivera made the switch

0:23:15.760 --> 0:23:20.320
<v Speaker 4>to Jacoby Brissette. Honestly, if they played Brissett and start him,

0:23:20.640 --> 0:23:24.880
<v Speaker 4>I think the Commanders should possibly be favored in this game.

0:23:24.920 --> 0:23:27.000
<v Speaker 4>I mean, I don't think they will be because the

0:23:27.080 --> 0:23:31.080
<v Speaker 4>Jets defense still is a strong unit and Washington's.

0:23:30.520 --> 0:23:31.840
<v Speaker 3>Is not at all.

0:23:31.880 --> 0:23:36.040
<v Speaker 4>But Jacoby Brissett looked really competent in the couple of

0:23:36.080 --> 0:23:40.600
<v Speaker 4>drives he had again quarterback yeah, which is again something

0:23:40.640 --> 0:23:44.160
<v Speaker 4>a lot of teams could could use these days, especially

0:23:44.160 --> 0:23:46.879
<v Speaker 4>the New York Jets. So I like the Commanders on

0:23:46.880 --> 0:23:49.439
<v Speaker 4>the money line again, I think with how variable that

0:23:49.560 --> 0:23:53.880
<v Speaker 4>offense can be, potentially taking on them on some alternate

0:23:53.920 --> 0:23:55.240
<v Speaker 4>spreads as well.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, Pat Jets Commanders thoughts.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm fascinated to see the matchup between the Jets offense

0:24:04.119 --> 0:24:06.360
<v Speaker 2>and the Commander's defense, Like that's going to be a

0:24:06.400 --> 0:24:12.280
<v Speaker 2>slow motion train wreck that you just can't look away from. Joe,

0:24:12.280 --> 0:24:13.760
<v Speaker 2>I don't want to take a side in what to

0:24:13.800 --> 0:24:17.720
<v Speaker 2>me looks like a really unpredictable game between two bad teams.

0:24:17.960 --> 0:24:21.240
<v Speaker 2>But I have already bet the under in this game

0:24:22.320 --> 0:24:25.600
<v Speaker 2>under thirty eight. The Washington offense has kind of been

0:24:25.640 --> 0:24:28.960
<v Speaker 2>struggling lately, Like the Commanders have scored twenty points or

0:24:28.960 --> 0:24:32.000
<v Speaker 2>fewer and four straight games that includes games against the

0:24:32.040 --> 0:24:34.239
<v Speaker 2>Giants in the RAMS, So it's not like it's just

0:24:34.520 --> 0:24:36.280
<v Speaker 2>they're running into great defenses that.

0:24:36.280 --> 0:24:37.800
<v Speaker 3>Are stopping them.

0:24:38.080 --> 0:24:40.320
<v Speaker 2>The Commanders throw the ball at a higher rate than

0:24:40.359 --> 0:24:42.920
<v Speaker 2>anyone else in the league, and although the Jets are bad,

0:24:42.960 --> 0:24:46.480
<v Speaker 2>the one thing they do do very well is shut

0:24:46.480 --> 0:24:50.440
<v Speaker 2>down opponents passing games except for this week against the Dolphins.

0:24:51.560 --> 0:24:55.920
<v Speaker 3>Meanwhile, the Jets, Jets offenses have quit the Jets maybe

0:24:55.920 --> 0:24:57.280
<v Speaker 3>they have, maybe they have.

0:24:57.600 --> 0:24:59.640
<v Speaker 1>You saw I think you saw that third quarter, fourth

0:24:59.720 --> 0:25:01.720
<v Speaker 1>quarter in that game is like, Okay, you know we're

0:25:01.760 --> 0:25:03.399
<v Speaker 1>out of it. This is it, This was our moment,

0:25:03.680 --> 0:25:06.440
<v Speaker 1>this was everything was riding on this pat I know,

0:25:06.880 --> 0:25:09.919
<v Speaker 1>maybe Rogers comes back, we stay relevant, we win in

0:25:09.960 --> 0:25:12.439
<v Speaker 1>division game as a huge win against the Miami Dolphins.

0:25:12.480 --> 0:25:14.240
<v Speaker 1>That going to Miami do that. You had the momentum

0:25:14.280 --> 0:25:16.560
<v Speaker 1>of the previous week with a huge win and it

0:25:16.600 --> 0:25:18.560
<v Speaker 1>all just fell apart and all just disintegrated. And I

0:25:18.560 --> 0:25:21.000
<v Speaker 1>think that takes toll mentally on a team.

0:25:21.440 --> 0:25:24.359
<v Speaker 2>I don't know if Sam Howell or Jacoby Brissett are

0:25:24.400 --> 0:25:27.280
<v Speaker 2>dicing up even a disinterested Jets defense.

0:25:27.320 --> 0:25:28.280
<v Speaker 3>Though Joe and.

0:25:28.680 --> 0:25:31.199
<v Speaker 1>Like Terry McLaurin, had some moments in that game yesterday.

0:25:31.560 --> 0:25:34.520
<v Speaker 1>You reminded everybody how spectacular of Talenty is.

0:25:34.560 --> 0:25:37.000
<v Speaker 2>The sideline catch that got disallowed was one of the

0:25:37.000 --> 0:25:40.399
<v Speaker 2>craziest catches you're ever gonna see. But meanwhile, like the

0:25:40.520 --> 0:25:43.120
<v Speaker 2>Jets offense is so bad, I don't like I think

0:25:43.119 --> 0:25:45.880
<v Speaker 2>they are capable of making the Commander's defense look good.

0:25:45.880 --> 0:25:47.800
<v Speaker 2>So I do not see this game getting to thirty

0:25:47.800 --> 0:25:49.560
<v Speaker 2>eight points. To me, that's one of the better bets

0:25:49.600 --> 0:25:49.960
<v Speaker 2>of the week.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh I like that.

0:25:52.640 --> 0:25:54.840
<v Speaker 3>Get it now. It's gonna come down, so get it

0:25:54.880 --> 0:25:55.840
<v Speaker 3>now at thirty eight.

0:25:57.480 --> 0:25:59.880
<v Speaker 1>Good good call there. By the way, the next game

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<v Speaker 1>as a pretty big number forty seven for Minnesota Detroit.

0:26:03.080 --> 0:26:05.680
<v Speaker 1>This one's in Minnesota. The Troit is three point favorites

0:26:05.720 --> 0:26:08.120
<v Speaker 1>on the road plus one forty on the Minnesota side

0:26:08.119 --> 0:26:10.840
<v Speaker 1>for the upset. I got Nick Mullins's past week. I

0:26:10.880 --> 0:26:13.320
<v Speaker 1>assume that's what we're gonna get again. Detroit at ten

0:26:13.359 --> 0:26:16.640
<v Speaker 1>to four. Big victory for them. Your thoughts here, does

0:26:16.680 --> 0:26:20.200
<v Speaker 1>the gravy train keep rolling into the Detroit Lions back

0:26:20.240 --> 0:26:22.479
<v Speaker 1>on track here or to the Minnesota Vikings. There were

0:26:22.480 --> 0:26:28.000
<v Speaker 1>a little little hiccup in things here for the Detroit Lions.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean, I think everyone's first instinct is going

0:26:31.800 --> 0:26:34.800
<v Speaker 2>to be to take the Lions after their nationally televised

0:26:34.800 --> 0:26:40.439
<v Speaker 2>paddling of the Broncos on Saturday night, and after, for

0:26:40.480 --> 0:26:44.399
<v Speaker 2>that matter, after the Vikings nationally televised meltown against the

0:26:44.440 --> 0:26:45.920
<v Speaker 2>Bengals on Saturday afternoon.

0:26:47.160 --> 0:26:48.160
<v Speaker 3>I'm not quite.

0:26:48.000 --> 0:26:50.480
<v Speaker 2>Ready to believe that all as well with the Lions,

0:26:50.520 --> 0:26:54.399
<v Speaker 2>though Joe like that went over the Broncos. Before that,

0:26:54.880 --> 0:26:58.159
<v Speaker 2>the Lions had not beaten anyone convincingly in a long time.

0:26:58.800 --> 0:27:02.360
<v Speaker 2>They had bad losses to the Packers. They squeaked out

0:27:02.400 --> 0:27:07.160
<v Speaker 2>wins over the Saints, the Bears, the Chargers. So does

0:27:07.240 --> 0:27:10.080
<v Speaker 2>one game and we know when the Lions are clicking

0:27:10.080 --> 0:27:14.960
<v Speaker 2>on offensively on offense, as they were Saturday night against

0:27:15.000 --> 0:27:18.159
<v Speaker 2>the Broncos, it's like they can look so impressive. But

0:27:18.240 --> 0:27:20.240
<v Speaker 2>we hadn't really seen that for a while. Like Jared

0:27:20.280 --> 0:27:24.000
<v Speaker 2>Goff had not been playing particularly well. So the Lions

0:27:24.040 --> 0:27:26.120
<v Speaker 2>are a better team than the Vikings. But I'm not

0:27:26.240 --> 0:27:28.639
<v Speaker 2>betting this game. I just don't think there's enough value

0:27:28.760 --> 0:27:30.760
<v Speaker 2>to pull me over to the Lion's side.

0:27:31.480 --> 0:27:33.680
<v Speaker 1>Sam, is there any value on this game or particularly

0:27:33.680 --> 0:27:34.720
<v Speaker 1>in the forty seven?

0:27:35.960 --> 0:27:38.280
<v Speaker 4>I think there's a little bit of value on the Lions.

0:27:38.400 --> 0:27:41.240
<v Speaker 4>This is the first of two matchups we get in

0:27:41.280 --> 0:27:44.760
<v Speaker 4>the final three weeks of the season. Between these two games,

0:27:45.320 --> 0:27:49.600
<v Speaker 4>the Vikings, as we know, love to blitz and Jared

0:27:49.600 --> 0:27:52.280
<v Speaker 4>Goff has struggled against the Blitzy has a sixty point

0:27:52.359 --> 0:27:57.400
<v Speaker 4>two PFF grade, which is twenty ninth among qualifying quarterbacks.

0:27:57.440 --> 0:28:01.080
<v Speaker 4>But the current way to attack sort of defense right

0:28:01.080 --> 0:28:03.360
<v Speaker 4>now is by running the ball. I think that's how

0:28:03.440 --> 0:28:07.560
<v Speaker 4>Detroit attacks that. Even though they had a positive password

0:28:07.600 --> 0:28:11.080
<v Speaker 4>over expectation for the first time since Week seven this

0:28:11.200 --> 0:28:15.639
<v Speaker 4>past week. But Jamira Gibbs looks phenomenal right now. He

0:28:15.840 --> 0:28:20.399
<v Speaker 4>is explosive, and I think the Viking, excuse me, the

0:28:20.440 --> 0:28:23.879
<v Speaker 4>Lions are back on track. I mean, yes, it had

0:28:23.920 --> 0:28:28.359
<v Speaker 4>been a while since this Lions offense had clicked, but

0:28:28.600 --> 0:28:31.800
<v Speaker 4>they did it against a Broncos defense that had been

0:28:32.440 --> 0:28:36.480
<v Speaker 4>stifling opposing offense for the last month and a half

0:28:36.560 --> 0:28:40.920
<v Speaker 4>or two months. So I'm excited. I think the Lions

0:28:40.960 --> 0:28:43.880
<v Speaker 4>hold a little bit of value. This is indoors still,

0:28:44.000 --> 0:28:48.320
<v Speaker 4>so it's not in away game outside for for Jared Goffin,

0:28:48.880 --> 0:28:51.880
<v Speaker 4>I think Detroit is going to show once again that

0:28:51.960 --> 0:28:54.120
<v Speaker 4>they're part of the class of the NFC.

0:28:55.080 --> 0:28:57.560
<v Speaker 1>Tampa Bay is at seven and seven. They were at

0:28:57.560 --> 0:29:01.560
<v Speaker 1>home one point underdogs at home home to the Jacksonville Jaguars,

0:29:01.560 --> 0:29:05.920
<v Speaker 1>coming off another tough loss there for them. Jaguars just

0:29:05.920 --> 0:29:08.080
<v Speaker 1>seeming like a team that just needs a couple more pieces,

0:29:08.120 --> 0:29:11.400
<v Speaker 1>some offensive line pieces. Maybe next year, maybe they're ready

0:29:11.440 --> 0:29:14.160
<v Speaker 1>to take that leap, but they're very frustrating team from

0:29:14.200 --> 0:29:16.520
<v Speaker 1>I think a wagering standpoint forty three and a half

0:29:16.560 --> 0:29:18.920
<v Speaker 1>is the number minus one ten you can get on

0:29:18.960 --> 0:29:21.000
<v Speaker 1>either side of this game here right now on the

0:29:21.000 --> 0:29:23.160
<v Speaker 1>money line, and that's kind of where I'm living. It feels,

0:29:23.280 --> 0:29:25.040
<v Speaker 1>I mean, Vegas is telling you it to pick him.

0:29:25.360 --> 0:29:28.480
<v Speaker 1>Here's Sam So basically, do you want to take Tampa

0:29:28.560 --> 0:29:30.960
<v Speaker 1>at home, who is sort of gaining a little momentum,

0:29:31.040 --> 0:29:33.640
<v Speaker 1>or a team in Jacksonville that continues to It feels

0:29:33.640 --> 0:29:35.520
<v Speaker 1>like Jacksonville just spins its wheels a little bit, and

0:29:35.960 --> 0:29:37.920
<v Speaker 1>maybe Lawrence's health is a big part of that as

0:29:37.920 --> 0:29:39.720
<v Speaker 1>well some of the other injuries that they've had on offense.

0:29:39.760 --> 0:29:41.640
<v Speaker 1>What do you think here about this one here Jacksonville

0:29:41.640 --> 0:29:43.479
<v Speaker 1>going to Tampa. Is this is a spot where Tampa

0:29:43.520 --> 0:29:44.640
<v Speaker 1>really should be the favorite.

0:29:45.320 --> 0:29:49.040
<v Speaker 4>Well, it went a little under the radar last night,

0:29:49.080 --> 0:29:52.160
<v Speaker 4>but Trevor Lawrence is in the concussion protocol as of

0:29:52.480 --> 0:29:57.640
<v Speaker 4>Monday morning, which again like there wasn't any real I

0:29:57.920 --> 0:30:00.560
<v Speaker 4>don't think he left the game at all last night.

0:30:00.680 --> 0:30:04.520
<v Speaker 4>But they also lost Say Jones to a hamstring injury

0:30:04.560 --> 0:30:07.280
<v Speaker 4>that I would expect will keep him out of this game.

0:30:07.360 --> 0:30:10.440
<v Speaker 4>So it's down to Calvin Ridley and Evan Ingram. And

0:30:10.480 --> 0:30:14.640
<v Speaker 4>like the depth that they have at receiver Jamal swagnuw

0:30:14.680 --> 0:30:18.960
<v Speaker 4>with a great long touchdown catch this past week. But

0:30:19.680 --> 0:30:22.120
<v Speaker 4>I don't want to touch this game until we know

0:30:22.280 --> 0:30:25.360
<v Speaker 4>more about Trevor Lawrence and whether he's going to play.

0:30:26.480 --> 0:30:29.680
<v Speaker 1>Pat I'm into this one. I'm buying the Bucks at home.

0:30:29.720 --> 0:30:32.640
<v Speaker 2>What do you think I bet the Buccaneers today get

0:30:32.720 --> 0:30:36.680
<v Speaker 2>and I got two and a half points on DraftKings Joe,

0:30:36.840 --> 0:30:40.080
<v Speaker 2>and because this game did strike me as a game

0:30:40.120 --> 0:30:42.440
<v Speaker 2>that should be a pick them, Like, I feel like

0:30:42.480 --> 0:30:46.120
<v Speaker 2>the Buccaneers are basically a league average team, and the

0:30:46.160 --> 0:30:49.320
<v Speaker 2>way the Jaguars have played lately, I don't think they've

0:30:49.320 --> 0:30:52.000
<v Speaker 2>been much better than a league average team. So you're

0:30:52.040 --> 0:30:55.160
<v Speaker 2>throwing the injuries that Sam mangined with the you know,

0:30:55.440 --> 0:30:58.960
<v Speaker 2>the wide receiver shortage they have right now, and Trevor Lawrence.

0:30:59.000 --> 0:31:01.480
<v Speaker 2>I mean, I think Laura and So will probably play,

0:31:01.960 --> 0:31:04.320
<v Speaker 2>but if he doesn't, oh boy, I mean what a value?

0:31:04.480 --> 0:31:07.880
<v Speaker 2>So yeah, like I do think this should be a pick.

0:31:07.920 --> 0:31:10.840
<v Speaker 2>I mean, if you're getting points with the Buccaneers taking

0:31:10.880 --> 0:31:13.080
<v Speaker 2>the points or betting the money line makes sense to me.

0:31:14.160 --> 0:31:15.920
<v Speaker 1>All right, let's continue on here. We've got a lot

0:31:15.920 --> 0:31:19.680
<v Speaker 1>of games to get to Arizona Chicago. The Bears were

0:31:19.680 --> 0:31:21.120
<v Speaker 1>in this one of the Bears defense played very well.

0:31:21.160 --> 0:31:23.280
<v Speaker 1>The Arizona Cardinals defense was a joke. There were guys

0:31:23.320 --> 0:31:28.160
<v Speaker 1>so wide open, unbelievable, you know, over twelve yards sometimes

0:31:28.160 --> 0:31:30.280
<v Speaker 1>some of these guys, either we Caffrey or Deebo were

0:31:30.320 --> 0:31:33.520
<v Speaker 1>open in this game. It was stunning. The Bears are

0:31:33.600 --> 0:31:35.360
<v Speaker 1>four and a half point favorites against the Cardinals and

0:31:35.400 --> 0:31:36.880
<v Speaker 1>this one forty four and a half is the number

0:31:36.920 --> 0:31:38.720
<v Speaker 1>plus one eighty on the money line for the Cardinals.

0:31:39.600 --> 0:31:42.360
<v Speaker 1>It's weird to feel comfortable with Chicago being favored by

0:31:42.360 --> 0:31:44.600
<v Speaker 1>four and a half points, but Pat, I feel comfortable

0:31:44.760 --> 0:31:47.000
<v Speaker 1>that Arizona's not going to go into Chicago and December

0:31:47.040 --> 0:31:49.960
<v Speaker 1>and win this football game or get closer with the

0:31:49.960 --> 0:31:52.920
<v Speaker 1>way that defense played. Plus, you know, Kyler Murray got

0:31:53.040 --> 0:31:54.640
<v Speaker 1>kind of rocked in that game a little bit too.

0:31:54.760 --> 0:31:57.280
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, I'm just I though. The Bears are

0:31:57.280 --> 0:31:59.680
<v Speaker 1>far from perfect, but the Bears have been very competitive,

0:31:59.680 --> 0:32:01.800
<v Speaker 1>and I think this is finally a matchup that almost

0:32:01.800 --> 0:32:04.600
<v Speaker 1>goes their way in terms of the you're finally getting

0:32:04.600 --> 0:32:06.760
<v Speaker 1>a cookie, and I think they've been desperate for this

0:32:06.800 --> 0:32:08.240
<v Speaker 1>kind of matchup and I think they're getting one here.

0:32:08.280 --> 0:32:08.800
<v Speaker 1>What do you think?

0:32:08.960 --> 0:32:10.960
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean you said it, Joe laying the four

0:32:11.040 --> 0:32:14.479
<v Speaker 2>points with a Chicago Bears team that like and this

0:32:14.640 --> 0:32:16.600
<v Speaker 2>was the difference between a winning week for me and

0:32:16.640 --> 0:32:21.120
<v Speaker 2>a juice losing week, Joe. The Bears inability to close

0:32:21.600 --> 0:32:24.280
<v Speaker 2>a win they should have had against the Browns. I

0:32:24.360 --> 0:32:26.200
<v Speaker 2>think that's the only thing that gives you pause. The

0:32:26.240 --> 0:32:29.680
<v Speaker 2>Bears are clearly the better team here. Their defense has

0:32:29.720 --> 0:32:32.080
<v Speaker 2>played really well of late. They can move the ball

0:32:32.120 --> 0:32:35.800
<v Speaker 2>with justin fields, and you pointed out some of the

0:32:35.800 --> 0:32:41.040
<v Speaker 2>flaws the Cardinals have, So yeah, like, I do think

0:32:41.080 --> 0:32:43.320
<v Speaker 2>there's value in the Bears. We also talked about how

0:32:43.360 --> 0:32:45.640
<v Speaker 2>with a warm weather team going up to a place

0:32:45.720 --> 0:32:49.000
<v Speaker 2>like Soldier Field in Chicago in late December, mid December,

0:32:49.720 --> 0:32:52.000
<v Speaker 2>home field might be worth more than two points, and

0:32:52.200 --> 0:32:54.160
<v Speaker 2>I think that could be the case here. So yes,

0:32:54.320 --> 0:32:57.200
<v Speaker 2>I like the Bears. I also think the under might

0:32:57.240 --> 0:32:59.280
<v Speaker 2>be a pretty good play here because of how good

0:32:59.280 --> 0:33:02.920
<v Speaker 2>the Bears defense is. And you know, the Bears themselves

0:33:03.320 --> 0:33:06.400
<v Speaker 2>are only averaging nineteen point two points over their last

0:33:06.440 --> 0:33:09.520
<v Speaker 2>five games. So for the over to land here, both

0:33:09.560 --> 0:33:11.840
<v Speaker 2>teams would have to click on offense to some degree,

0:33:11.840 --> 0:33:14.120
<v Speaker 2>and it's kind of hard to see that happening, especially

0:33:14.120 --> 0:33:16.840
<v Speaker 2>in a game where weather could potentially be a factor.

0:33:18.200 --> 0:33:20.280
<v Speaker 1>Sam, what do you think, Chicago, Arizona? You think that

0:33:20.280 --> 0:33:21.080
<v Speaker 1>four and a half a save?

0:33:22.480 --> 0:33:25.400
<v Speaker 4>No? I don't. I don't really like either side in

0:33:25.440 --> 0:33:28.840
<v Speaker 4>this one. Looking at the forecast for Chicago, looks like

0:33:28.880 --> 0:33:31.960
<v Speaker 4>it's going to be a bone chilling forty seven degrees

0:33:32.600 --> 0:33:37.320
<v Speaker 4>for some December Chicago weather. So I don't think the

0:33:37.360 --> 0:33:38.719
<v Speaker 4>weather impacts things that much.

0:33:38.760 --> 0:33:44.160
<v Speaker 1>I think for the Arizona folks, yeah, that is very true.

0:33:44.880 --> 0:33:47.040
<v Speaker 4>But I think what's driving this total up is just

0:33:47.120 --> 0:33:51.320
<v Speaker 4>we have two exciting, elusive quarterbacks who can make things

0:33:51.680 --> 0:33:55.240
<v Speaker 4>happen on the ground. But to Pat's point, this Bears

0:33:55.280 --> 0:34:00.280
<v Speaker 4>defense continues to impress. The Cardinals offense at times looked

0:34:00.280 --> 0:34:03.200
<v Speaker 4>like he had some spunk against the forty nine ers,

0:34:03.240 --> 0:34:08.239
<v Speaker 4>But excuse me, Kyler Murray, with him getting banged up,

0:34:08.600 --> 0:34:11.359
<v Speaker 4>I think the under is the right play in that game.

0:34:12.160 --> 0:34:14.480
<v Speaker 1>All right, This is a fun one here Christmas Eve

0:34:14.800 --> 0:34:18.000
<v Speaker 1>for twenty five Eastern Dallas Miami. Both teams are ten

0:34:18.000 --> 0:34:19.800
<v Speaker 1>and four. Miami at home is a one and a

0:34:19.800 --> 0:34:22.240
<v Speaker 1>half point favorite right now with the consensus betting pros line,

0:34:22.520 --> 0:34:24.920
<v Speaker 1>fifty one is the number for this game Dallas plus

0:34:24.920 --> 0:34:27.080
<v Speaker 1>one oh five. So look, we got the answer to

0:34:27.160 --> 0:34:29.440
<v Speaker 1>the question. Is dak ready to take that step forward

0:34:29.480 --> 0:34:31.200
<v Speaker 1>and all of a sudden lead a team on the

0:34:31.280 --> 0:34:33.360
<v Speaker 1>road to a big win? And I think that was

0:34:33.360 --> 0:34:35.719
<v Speaker 1>a resounding no yesterday as they got their brains beat

0:34:35.800 --> 0:34:38.520
<v Speaker 1>in by the Buffalo Bills, and I mean literally and

0:34:38.600 --> 0:34:41.839
<v Speaker 1>figuratively in this game. Now they're going to Miami. We'll

0:34:41.880 --> 0:34:44.200
<v Speaker 1>see what your thoughts are here, Sam, But this one

0:34:44.640 --> 0:34:47.440
<v Speaker 1>again Vegas basically telling you to choose your adventure, So

0:34:47.440 --> 0:34:48.319
<v Speaker 1>which one you want to take?

0:34:49.120 --> 0:34:52.399
<v Speaker 4>I'm going with the Dolphins here. We've got a bit

0:34:52.400 --> 0:34:55.839
<v Speaker 4>of a Spider Man meme matchup of two teams that

0:34:56.160 --> 0:35:00.840
<v Speaker 4>haven't really gotten it done against good teams season, so

0:35:00.960 --> 0:35:03.560
<v Speaker 4>one of them is gonna have to do that this week.

0:35:03.840 --> 0:35:06.120
<v Speaker 4>I think there are a couple of defensive matchups for

0:35:06.360 --> 0:35:09.560
<v Speaker 4>Miami that are are pretty big. Christian Wilkins right now

0:35:09.600 --> 0:35:13.200
<v Speaker 4>playing some really incredible ball on the defensive line, and

0:35:13.920 --> 0:35:17.440
<v Speaker 4>Zach Martin if he is out, could make things even worse.

0:35:17.600 --> 0:35:21.080
<v Speaker 4>For Dallas. Jalen Ramsey potentially lined up against Ceedee Lamb

0:35:21.120 --> 0:35:24.200
<v Speaker 4>when he's lined up out wide. So I think Miami

0:35:24.280 --> 0:35:27.640
<v Speaker 4>gets Tyreek hillback for this game as well. And and

0:35:27.880 --> 0:35:31.680
<v Speaker 4>the Cowboys secondary I don't think is playing has not

0:35:31.800 --> 0:35:34.640
<v Speaker 4>played as well the last several weeks. With all of

0:35:34.680 --> 0:35:37.520
<v Speaker 4>the firepower that Miami has on offense, I think they're

0:35:37.560 --> 0:35:40.040
<v Speaker 4>able to take care of Dallas this.

0:35:39.960 --> 0:35:45.320
<v Speaker 1>Week, Patuh To Sam's point, Miami has struggled against teams

0:35:45.320 --> 0:35:49.000
<v Speaker 1>that you know are above them theoretically right, punching up

0:35:49.000 --> 0:35:50.839
<v Speaker 1>has not been there for today. They've beaten the teams

0:35:50.840 --> 0:35:53.279
<v Speaker 1>are supposed to beat. Dallas is more of a test.

0:35:53.520 --> 0:35:56.560
<v Speaker 1>They have also failed most tests. So of these two

0:35:56.600 --> 0:36:01.000
<v Speaker 1>teams that are good against bad playing each other, who

0:36:01.040 --> 0:36:01.840
<v Speaker 1>comes out the victor.

0:36:02.120 --> 0:36:04.280
<v Speaker 2>But you guys are not gonna be on Jerry Jones'

0:36:04.400 --> 0:36:07.680
<v Speaker 2>Christmas card list this year, Like Joe, you're just trashing

0:36:07.680 --> 0:36:10.040
<v Speaker 2>them for how they played against Buffalo, Sam sing, they

0:36:10.080 --> 0:36:13.680
<v Speaker 2>haven't beaten anyone after they squashed the Eagles in Week fourteen.

0:36:15.200 --> 0:36:18.480
<v Speaker 2>Like I'm not going to penalize the Cowboys too much

0:36:18.520 --> 0:36:21.480
<v Speaker 2>for the egg they laid in Buffalo yesterday. As bad

0:36:21.480 --> 0:36:24.560
<v Speaker 2>as they were against the Bills in Week fifteen. I mean,

0:36:24.600 --> 0:36:27.680
<v Speaker 2>like that game against the Eagles. They were that terrific

0:36:27.920 --> 0:36:31.000
<v Speaker 2>the week prior so. But it was good to see

0:36:31.000 --> 0:36:33.719
<v Speaker 2>that the Dolphins didn't miss a beat without Tyreek Hill

0:36:33.760 --> 0:36:35.280
<v Speaker 2>and just squashed the Jets.

0:36:35.280 --> 0:36:37.360
<v Speaker 3>So I do think this is a good line. I

0:36:37.400 --> 0:36:38.880
<v Speaker 3>can't wait to watch it. I'm not going to.

0:36:38.920 --> 0:36:41.120
<v Speaker 1>Bet it, all right, I don't know if you can

0:36:41.120 --> 0:36:43.400
<v Speaker 1>wait to watch this one. The New England Patriots and

0:36:43.400 --> 0:36:46.839
<v Speaker 1>the Denver Broncos. Pat I know, get excited. Minus six

0:36:46.920 --> 0:36:49.800
<v Speaker 1>for Denver in their building feels about right again, a

0:36:49.840 --> 0:36:52.520
<v Speaker 1>lot of points for Denver, but it is the New

0:36:52.560 --> 0:36:54.960
<v Speaker 1>England Patriots and they are definitely done. Thirty four and

0:36:55.000 --> 0:36:56.680
<v Speaker 1>a half is the number for this one. Plus two

0:36:56.680 --> 0:36:58.960
<v Speaker 1>to twenty on the upset line for New England. Now, look,

0:36:59.040 --> 0:37:01.279
<v Speaker 1>you know we thought, you know, they didn't have anything

0:37:01.320 --> 0:37:03.120
<v Speaker 1>left in the tank, and then they went into Pittsburgh

0:37:03.200 --> 0:37:05.160
<v Speaker 1>and won a game. Can they steal another one here?

0:37:05.200 --> 0:37:07.360
<v Speaker 1>Pat or do you want to at least be on

0:37:07.440 --> 0:37:10.120
<v Speaker 1>the side of that six that plus number on the

0:37:10.120 --> 0:37:12.880
<v Speaker 1>New England side considering all the shortcomings of Denver.

0:37:13.280 --> 0:37:16.400
<v Speaker 3>No, I want to take the Broncos here. Joe at home.

0:37:17.160 --> 0:37:19.480
<v Speaker 2>This opened with the Broncos favored by five and a half,

0:37:19.560 --> 0:37:21.360
<v Speaker 2>and I think some other people saw the value in

0:37:21.400 --> 0:37:23.960
<v Speaker 2>Denver too, because it quickly got bet up to six.

0:37:25.360 --> 0:37:27.880
<v Speaker 2>Terrible game for them Saturday night in Detroit, one of

0:37:27.920 --> 0:37:32.080
<v Speaker 2>those burned the film type games. But the Broncos have

0:37:32.200 --> 0:37:35.080
<v Speaker 2>been the much much better team over the last month

0:37:35.120 --> 0:37:37.359
<v Speaker 2>and a half than the Patriots have been. Like if

0:37:37.400 --> 0:37:42.000
<v Speaker 2>you take away the Week fifteen result and figure out

0:37:42.040 --> 0:37:43.560
<v Speaker 2>what this line would have been, I feel like it

0:37:43.560 --> 0:37:45.360
<v Speaker 2>would have been Broncos like minus eight and a.

0:37:45.400 --> 0:37:48.239
<v Speaker 3>Half or something like that. So I'm happy to take

0:37:48.239 --> 0:37:49.480
<v Speaker 3>the Broncos. I think there's.

0:37:49.360 --> 0:37:53.240
<v Speaker 1>Value sam Broncos or Pats.

0:37:54.760 --> 0:37:57.480
<v Speaker 4>I hate that I am on the Patriots again this week.

0:37:57.600 --> 0:38:00.560
<v Speaker 4>Last week I said, if that game gets out the digits,

0:38:00.560 --> 0:38:02.799
<v Speaker 4>then take the Patriots. And it did get to ten

0:38:02.840 --> 0:38:06.000
<v Speaker 4>at some points at some places throughout the week, which

0:38:06.040 --> 0:38:09.240
<v Speaker 4>means if you got that at worse, you pushed because

0:38:09.320 --> 0:38:12.800
<v Speaker 4>for some reason, Kansas City took a kneel on fourth

0:38:12.880 --> 0:38:16.959
<v Speaker 4>down with less than a minute left. But Denver still

0:38:17.000 --> 0:38:20.640
<v Speaker 4>wants to run the ball a bit and New England's

0:38:20.680 --> 0:38:24.480
<v Speaker 4>rushing defense is elite. I mean it's it doesn't get

0:38:24.520 --> 0:38:27.359
<v Speaker 4>a lot of shine or credit because of the way

0:38:27.400 --> 0:38:29.680
<v Speaker 4>the rest of the team is playing, but they are

0:38:29.760 --> 0:38:34.399
<v Speaker 4>able to shut down opposing rushing attacks. And I don't

0:38:34.400 --> 0:38:39.279
<v Speaker 4>think the Denver passing attack is really good enough to

0:38:40.160 --> 0:38:44.399
<v Speaker 4>take advantage of that particular weakness. So in a low

0:38:44.480 --> 0:38:48.279
<v Speaker 4>scoring game, give me, give me the Patriots again.

0:38:50.440 --> 0:38:52.640
<v Speaker 1>Begrudgingly. I'll tell you what. Just run to the Javonte

0:38:52.680 --> 0:38:55.600
<v Speaker 1>Williams under because bywar's a layer at an under. We

0:38:55.680 --> 0:38:58.040
<v Speaker 1>talked about that on the Prop Show this week. Louis

0:38:58.080 --> 0:39:00.799
<v Speaker 1>before was the under on all the Pittsburgh running back

0:39:00.840 --> 0:39:02.680
<v Speaker 1>to that one worked out like, just keep taking the

0:39:02.760 --> 0:39:04.680
<v Speaker 1>unders on the RBS against New England. That's the best

0:39:04.719 --> 0:39:07.239
<v Speaker 1>bet in this game period. End of story. Next one

0:39:07.239 --> 0:39:09.520
<v Speaker 1>here in Las Vegas at Kansas City. Speaking of the

0:39:09.600 --> 0:39:12.360
<v Speaker 1>Kansasity Chiefs. They are now nine to five, a victory,

0:39:12.400 --> 0:39:15.120
<v Speaker 1>but still not a happy one for Patrick Mahomes. Six

0:39:15.160 --> 0:39:17.640
<v Speaker 1>and eight are the Vegas Raiders after putting up a

0:39:17.680 --> 0:39:20.040
<v Speaker 1>sixty three spot. Now they're going to go to Kansas City.

0:39:20.040 --> 0:39:22.280
<v Speaker 1>Typically this would be a smash here, and look though,

0:39:22.480 --> 0:39:25.719
<v Speaker 1>Vegas is showing confidence a ten points here on the

0:39:25.800 --> 0:39:27.759
<v Speaker 1>side of the Kansas City Chiefs. Forty three is the

0:39:27.840 --> 0:39:30.000
<v Speaker 1>number for this one plus three seventy five for the

0:39:30.080 --> 0:39:33.320
<v Speaker 1>Raiders on the money line, Sam, The Kansas City Chiefs

0:39:33.440 --> 0:39:37.960
<v Speaker 1>win games, but they still continue to drop passes everywhere?

0:39:38.080 --> 0:39:41.319
<v Speaker 1>Canarius Tony more nonsense? Even Kelsey had a drop there

0:39:41.400 --> 0:39:45.160
<v Speaker 1>in the end zone. I mean, Patrick Mahomes and companies

0:39:45.160 --> 0:39:47.960
<v Speaker 1>certainly look like a team that is struggling, despite the

0:39:47.960 --> 0:39:50.279
<v Speaker 1>fact that they are still very much in the hunt

0:39:50.320 --> 0:39:53.359
<v Speaker 1>for the number one seeds. So can they win by

0:39:53.480 --> 0:39:56.120
<v Speaker 1>ten at home against the Raiders?

0:39:57.600 --> 0:39:58.040
<v Speaker 3>Can they?

0:39:58.160 --> 0:40:01.719
<v Speaker 4>Yes? I mean they were down fourteen nothing to the

0:40:01.800 --> 0:40:04.080
<v Speaker 4>Raiders in their first matchup a couple of weeks ago,

0:40:04.200 --> 0:40:08.399
<v Speaker 4>end up winning by by fourteen points. The I mean

0:40:08.400 --> 0:40:10.879
<v Speaker 4>what Vegas did on on Thursday night. Granted it again

0:40:10.920 --> 0:40:14.880
<v Speaker 4>it was against the Chargers team that we talked about,

0:40:15.080 --> 0:40:19.799
<v Speaker 4>but I can't I can't invest on either side. I mean,

0:40:19.880 --> 0:40:22.839
<v Speaker 4>like Mahomes is just I got a feel for the guy,

0:40:23.040 --> 0:40:29.319
<v Speaker 4>like he is frustrated, like it's and I don't blame him.

0:40:29.320 --> 0:40:32.600
<v Speaker 4>So the Chiefs offense still in a funk. I mean,

0:40:32.640 --> 0:40:36.920
<v Speaker 4>I think they are. There are things that I mean,

0:40:36.960 --> 0:40:39.759
<v Speaker 4>I want to say the Drops are not going to

0:40:39.800 --> 0:40:42.759
<v Speaker 4>hold week to week, but they continue to do so,

0:40:42.800 --> 0:40:48.440
<v Speaker 4>I mean Rashi Rice is really the only reliable player

0:40:48.880 --> 0:40:52.319
<v Speaker 4>on that offense right now. I mean Travis Kelce even

0:40:52.920 --> 0:40:55.600
<v Speaker 4>it looks like the Ages is catching up to him

0:40:55.640 --> 0:40:59.319
<v Speaker 4>a bit. So I'm sticking with some player props on

0:40:59.320 --> 0:41:01.320
<v Speaker 4>this one instead of a Sider total.

0:41:01.520 --> 0:41:03.760
<v Speaker 1>Fair enough, this is the first game of the triple

0:41:03.800 --> 0:41:07.680
<v Speaker 1>header on Christmas Day. Pat your thoughts on this one here,

0:41:07.800 --> 0:41:08.680
<v Speaker 1>confidence of Casey.

0:41:09.239 --> 0:41:12.879
<v Speaker 2>No, I'm gonna echo Sam's sentiments completely on this one.

0:41:12.960 --> 0:41:16.320
<v Speaker 2>I just so Andy Reid has totally had the Raiders

0:41:16.440 --> 0:41:18.319
<v Speaker 2>number since he took the Chiefs job.

0:41:18.400 --> 0:41:18.480
<v Speaker 3>Like.

0:41:18.520 --> 0:41:20.920
<v Speaker 2>The Chiefs have won nine of their last ten against

0:41:20.920 --> 0:41:24.080
<v Speaker 2>the Raiders. They've covered six of those ten games. But

0:41:24.160 --> 0:41:27.400
<v Speaker 2>I just can't lay double digit points with the Chiefs

0:41:27.480 --> 0:41:30.640
<v Speaker 2>offense not firing on all cylinders. And we know they're

0:41:30.640 --> 0:41:33.080
<v Speaker 2>probably not going to have Isaiah Pacheco back from this one,

0:41:33.160 --> 0:41:35.759
<v Speaker 2>so they're you know, parceling out the running game to

0:41:35.920 --> 0:41:39.640
<v Speaker 2>Clyde Edwards Hilaire and Jerck McKinnon. And the Raiders have

0:41:39.719 --> 0:41:41.640
<v Speaker 2>been playing really hard for Antonio Pierre.

0:41:41.719 --> 0:41:42.919
<v Speaker 3>So I can't lay ten.

0:41:43.520 --> 0:41:46.720
<v Speaker 2>But I'm not betting the Raiders with their tortured recent

0:41:46.880 --> 0:41:48.120
<v Speaker 2>history against the Chiefs.

0:41:49.320 --> 0:41:53.080
<v Speaker 1>All right, the middle game here, four thirty Eastern New York, Philadelphia.

0:41:53.120 --> 0:41:55.680
<v Speaker 1>So you get the Giants and Eagles. Eagles right now

0:41:55.760 --> 0:41:57.839
<v Speaker 1>minus ten and a half favorites at home forty three

0:41:57.840 --> 0:42:00.640
<v Speaker 1>and a half is the number plus four hundred if

0:42:00.640 --> 0:42:04.280
<v Speaker 1>you like the cutlets upset. Look, you know, the Eagles

0:42:04.280 --> 0:42:07.279
<v Speaker 1>are I think, still a very superior team, no matter

0:42:07.320 --> 0:42:09.640
<v Speaker 1>what people are saying about them currently. We'll see what

0:42:09.640 --> 0:42:12.440
<v Speaker 1>happens with them against Seattle tonight. No, they have problem

0:42:12.440 --> 0:42:15.560
<v Speaker 1>in the secondary. But look, the Giants, you know, kind

0:42:15.560 --> 0:42:19.040
<v Speaker 1>of got checked this past weekend by the Saints going

0:42:19.080 --> 0:42:21.319
<v Speaker 1>on the road to Philadelphia. That doesn't seem like a

0:42:21.320 --> 0:42:23.560
<v Speaker 1>good day at the office for the Giants.

0:42:23.920 --> 0:42:27.279
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Joe, I mean like, I saw this line and

0:42:27.320 --> 0:42:29.439
<v Speaker 2>I went through a mental checklist of what I might

0:42:29.480 --> 0:42:31.960
<v Speaker 2>be missing. I spent ten minutes like, why is this

0:42:32.040 --> 0:42:36.080
<v Speaker 2>line not higher? Maybe it's because of the ambiguity with

0:42:36.239 --> 0:42:38.440
<v Speaker 2>Jalen Hurts status for this week.

0:42:39.160 --> 0:42:40.319
<v Speaker 3>I think that has something to do.

0:42:40.360 --> 0:42:42.480
<v Speaker 2>But even if he misses this week, I would imagine

0:42:42.480 --> 0:42:43.520
<v Speaker 2>he's back next week.

0:42:43.640 --> 0:42:46.600
<v Speaker 3>So I don't know it, just it seems.

0:42:46.280 --> 0:42:49.320
<v Speaker 2>Like there is value at the Eagles, just the vastly

0:42:49.480 --> 0:42:51.480
<v Speaker 2>superior team in this matchup.

0:42:52.239 --> 0:42:55.520
<v Speaker 1>All right, Sam, vastly superior Eagles. Is that confidence enough

0:42:55.520 --> 0:42:56.560
<v Speaker 1>for you to go ten and a half?

0:42:59.040 --> 0:43:03.040
<v Speaker 4>No, it's not. The One thing I'm going to bet

0:43:03.080 --> 0:43:07.279
<v Speaker 4>on is Boston Scott anytime touchdown. This man is the

0:43:07.320 --> 0:43:10.399
<v Speaker 4>Giant killer. He scores a touchdown almost every single time

0:43:10.400 --> 0:43:13.200
<v Speaker 4>that they play the Giants. That that's my one bet

0:43:13.280 --> 0:43:17.360
<v Speaker 4>for this game. They're a little stocking Christmas money on.

0:43:18.120 --> 0:43:20.760
<v Speaker 2>He's had like two carries in the last five weeks,

0:43:20.760 --> 0:43:22.040
<v Speaker 2>so that's a pretty bold bet.

0:43:22.080 --> 0:43:24.520
<v Speaker 4>But hey, you know how many carries you need to

0:43:24.520 --> 0:43:29.160
<v Speaker 4>get a single touchdown? One? All right?

0:43:29.239 --> 0:43:31.359
<v Speaker 1>Last one here? This is I mean, some people calling

0:43:31.360 --> 0:43:33.960
<v Speaker 1>this a Super Bowl preview, I don't know. I mean,

0:43:34.040 --> 0:43:37.640
<v Speaker 1>Baltimore Ravens might be eleven to three, but they bother me.

0:43:37.760 --> 0:43:41.239
<v Speaker 1>I don't have elite level confidence in the Ravens. They're

0:43:41.280 --> 0:43:43.719
<v Speaker 1>going to San Fran was also eleven and three. The

0:43:43.880 --> 0:43:46.640
<v Speaker 1>san fran Is five and a half point favorites. Forty

0:43:46.680 --> 0:43:48.560
<v Speaker 1>five is the number for this one plus one eighty

0:43:48.560 --> 0:43:51.120
<v Speaker 1>on the Baltimore side. Sam, I'm gonna keep this simple.

0:43:51.239 --> 0:43:52.640
<v Speaker 1>I think you lock in San Fran now in the

0:43:52.640 --> 0:43:54.000
<v Speaker 1>five and a half. I think San Franz is a

0:43:54.000 --> 0:43:56.880
<v Speaker 1>superior team. Like I said, to everybody, not just the

0:43:57.000 --> 0:43:59.880
<v Speaker 1>NFC teams, the AFC teams especially, but the rest of

0:43:59.880 --> 0:44:02.120
<v Speaker 1>the NFL. They just feel like a team that is

0:44:03.120 --> 0:44:05.680
<v Speaker 1>just locked in right now. That pass rush has changed

0:44:05.760 --> 0:44:08.200
<v Speaker 1>the whole configuration of this defense that was struggling a

0:44:08.200 --> 0:44:10.279
<v Speaker 1>little bit in the earlier part of the year and

0:44:10.320 --> 0:44:12.239
<v Speaker 1>making up for maybe some of the things they're lacking

0:44:12.280 --> 0:44:14.279
<v Speaker 1>in the secondary. I don't know, man, I don't know

0:44:14.320 --> 0:44:18.520
<v Speaker 1>how you stop this incredible offense of the San Francisco

0:44:18.560 --> 0:44:20.160
<v Speaker 1>forty nine or so. I like this five and a half.

0:44:20.200 --> 0:44:20.960
<v Speaker 1>To me, it's not enough.

0:44:20.960 --> 0:44:25.200
<v Speaker 4>Sam, Yeah, this one was tough. I didn't realize this

0:44:25.239 --> 0:44:28.200
<v Speaker 4>got out to five and a half already. I think

0:44:28.239 --> 0:44:31.440
<v Speaker 4>I much preferred at four and a half. I think

0:44:31.880 --> 0:44:35.160
<v Speaker 4>if you like the Ravens, then the money line is

0:44:35.200 --> 0:44:38.840
<v Speaker 4>the bad. Again. I've mentioned a couple times Lamar Jackson's

0:44:38.880 --> 0:44:43.319
<v Speaker 4>performance against NFC teams. The forty nine ers secondary is

0:44:43.360 --> 0:44:47.239
<v Speaker 4>still a little banged up, and I mean some of

0:44:47.280 --> 0:44:51.759
<v Speaker 4>the plays that Lamar Jackson is making are just incredible.

0:44:51.800 --> 0:44:56.120
<v Speaker 4>I mean, he's keeping that team alive. Some of their

0:44:56.160 --> 0:45:00.239
<v Speaker 4>defensive playmakers that they have are playing really well. Van

0:45:00.280 --> 0:45:04.880
<v Speaker 4>Clowney having a solid season, So I think again, if

0:45:04.880 --> 0:45:07.640
<v Speaker 4>you're on the forty nine ers that I wouldn't take

0:45:07.680 --> 0:45:10.640
<v Speaker 4>it past five and a half. If it gets out

0:45:10.680 --> 0:45:14.600
<v Speaker 4>to six, I'm probably not touching. But Baltimore, if you

0:45:14.640 --> 0:45:17.120
<v Speaker 4>do like them, then taking them on the money line

0:45:17.200 --> 0:45:19.200
<v Speaker 4>to win outright is the way to go.

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<v Speaker 1>Pat. Maybe I'm crazy. Sam is probably the voice of

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<v Speaker 1>reason here. I am a little bit more in the oh,

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<v Speaker 1>how would you say it? Bold? Bold? Maybe is the

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<v Speaker 1>word for it. I think sanfred is gonna win this

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<v Speaker 1>game by double digits. Like I'm taking alternate spreads. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>looking for San Fran to crush them at home. This

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<v Speaker 1>is in Baltimore. Maybe I have a different set of circumstances,

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<v Speaker 1>but I don't know, man, I do not have faith

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<v Speaker 1>in Baltimore.

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<v Speaker 2>So if I'm going to be a contrarian, Joe, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>going to you know, underscore the point that Sam made

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<v Speaker 2>about how well Lamar Jackson is historically done against the

0:45:51.600 --> 0:45:54.239
<v Speaker 2>NFC teams he faces, who are not used to seeing

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<v Speaker 2>him on a regular basis and have a hard time

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<v Speaker 2>handling his style of play, which is truly unique. And

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<v Speaker 2>like also the fact that uh you know, the Ravens

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<v Speaker 2>are a really good team, and I just I don't

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<v Speaker 2>like laying that many points to a team as good

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<v Speaker 2>as the Ravens.

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<v Speaker 3>But Joe, I hear you, man like Evan's.

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<v Speaker 1>A really good team, Pat, or are they just a

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<v Speaker 1>good team compared to the rest of the AFC, which

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<v Speaker 1>is a little mid.

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<v Speaker 2>I think, to be honest, I think they're a pretty

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<v Speaker 2>good team. Like there, I would stop short of calling

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<v Speaker 2>them a great team, but they're a good team. The

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<v Speaker 2>other thing is, Joe, let's remember that the forty nine

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<v Speaker 2>Ers did have a three game losing streak, so this

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<v Speaker 2>is not an invincible team. They are hitting on all

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<v Speaker 2>cylinders right now. They are just totally cooking. And I

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<v Speaker 2>understand I'm not betting against the forty nine ers right now,

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<v Speaker 2>but I also don't want to lay five, five and

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<v Speaker 2>a half points to the Ravens.

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<v Speaker 3>So I'm gonna I'm gonna stay away from this one.

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<v Speaker 1>All right. I will be on my island right off

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<v Speaker 1>the coast of northern California, sipping the wine and eating

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<v Speaker 1>the cheese. That is the forty nine Ers. Ive already

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<v Speaker 1>bet them to win the Super Bowl. I've bet them

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<v Speaker 1>win the NFC. I cash out a couple of weeks

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<v Speaker 1>ago the Eagles bets that I had, which was great

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<v Speaker 1>because I still got my money back there and I

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<v Speaker 1>have chosen a new ship. It's the forty nine ers.

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<v Speaker 1>All I wanted them to do was go and prove

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<v Speaker 1>to me that they could beat the Eagles. They prove

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<v Speaker 1>that and it's been no looking back ever since. So

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<v Speaker 1>give me Sam for a lot of games, a lot

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