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Speaker 1: time to look ahead to week sixteen in the NFL,

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Speaker 1: and I'm glad. I'm very glad because Week fifteen was brutal.

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Speaker 1: I hated it. I took so many l's I can't

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Speaker 1: YouTube channel. Gentlemen, I don't want to talk about Week fifteen.

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Speaker 1: It's over. It's done pretty much. I got one more

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Speaker 1: let's look ahead. Let's take a look, and let's start

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Speaker 1: here with basically is a playoff game here, pat We've

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Speaker 1: got the Los Angeles Rams seven and seven taking on

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Speaker 1: the New Orleans Saints. This one's in LA. The Rams

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Speaker 1: are four point favorites. That feels right to me. Forty

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Speaker 1: four and a half is the number that feels right

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Speaker 1: to me. At minus one ten. The best number you

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Speaker 1: seventy five. Pat. You know, the Rams a good road

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Speaker 1: and no tee. Last week they looked good, but again

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Speaker 1: kind of took their foot off the gas, which worries

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Speaker 1: me a little bit. New Orleans coming off of big win.

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Speaker 1: They are right in the thick of this playoff, so

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Speaker 1: are the Rams. What do you make of this line here,

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Speaker 2: I like the Rams, Joe. They just have a much

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Speaker 2: better offense than the Saints. They can move it through

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Speaker 2: the air with Matthew Stafford throwing the Cooper Cup and

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Speaker 3: The Saints just the Saints have struggled in the red zone.

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Speaker 2: And the Saints have also not been a very good

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Speaker 2: team against the spread this year. They are four nine

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Speaker 2: and one against the number, whereas the Rams are eight

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Speaker 3: I think there's a little bit of value on the

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Speaker 1: It does feel like a little bit also that balance

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Speaker 1: along nicely. Cooper Cup's health starting to improve. I think

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Speaker 1: Matthew Stafford's looked very sharp. But Kien Williams running the

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Speaker 4: I do? I made this Rams by five and a half,

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Speaker 4: I think again. Sean McVay has this Rams offense clicking

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Speaker 1: at four thirty, you got Pittsburgh hosting the Cincinnati Bengals.

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Speaker 1: Now the Bengals are road two and a half favorites,

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Speaker 1: So is this just the right call here? And if so,

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Speaker 4: If I were to take a side. I picked the Bengals.

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Speaker 4: I mean, Jake Browning continues to prove all the haters wrong.

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Speaker 4: You know, looked a little out of sorts in the

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Speaker 1: Your thoughts here, pat because again the you know Pittsburgh Steelers,

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Speaker 2: Can you imagine, Joe if someone had told you back

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Speaker 2: That just seems kind of unfathomable. But I get it

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Speaker 2: maybe that gives the Bengals a little extra motivation. I

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Speaker 2: do like the Bengals. I don't know if I'm going

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Speaker 2: we have seen the Steelers get outplayed and outgained on

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Speaker 2: I'm going to take the Bengals, but I'm not quite

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Speaker 2: sure there's enough value to bet the Bengals.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think you might go some individual props in

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Speaker 4: Ahead and real quick before we move on. Actually, just

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Speaker 4: got a notification that Mason Rudolph is going to be

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Speaker 4: little bit, not much. I don't know if it crosses three.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, we're getting Rudolf for Christmas to guide the

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Speaker 2: Steelers offense with his nose so bright it's perfect.

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Speaker 1: That's why you download my playbook too. Make sure you

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Speaker 1: stay on top of all this news as it breaks.

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Speaker 1: The Chargers are at home. They're taking on the Buffalo Bills.

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Speaker 1: Coming off a huge victory, Buffalo looking like they're starting

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Speaker 1: to figure it out. Joe Brady Cohen plays balancing the offense,

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Speaker 1: getting James Cook the football. What a concept. They are

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Speaker 1: now eight and six. The excuse me, the Chargers are

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Speaker 1: five and nine. This is a twelve and a half

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Speaker 1: point spread here where the Buffalo Bills are favored by

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Speaker 1: a half is the number plus five twenty five a

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Speaker 1: huge number here for the upset of by the Chargers.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna get East and stick. We don't know if

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Speaker 1: we're gonna be a Keenan Allen. It's a big number here,

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Speaker 1: but after that dominant performance, it feels like pat the

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Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills are back on track. Is twelve and a

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Speaker 1: half comfortable enough for you to still invest in Buffalo?

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Speaker 2: Oh boy, people have been gobbling up the Bills, Joe,

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Speaker 2: Because I just checked DraftKings.

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Speaker 3: It's fourteen right now.

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Speaker 1: Moved again And it is.

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Speaker 2: Like policy that I do not lay that many points

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Speaker 3: But like, I don't know how anyone could.

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Speaker 2: Possibly bet the Chargers after what we saw against the Raiders, Like,

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Speaker 2: does anyone really think that the Chargers are gonna circle

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Speaker 2: the wagons for Brandon Staley like that looked like a

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Speaker 3: The white flag last Thursday night.

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Speaker 2: So the Bills, after beating the Cowboys, they now have

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna bet the Bills. I just don't know if

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Speaker 2: I can lay fourteen points in an NFL game. It

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Speaker 1: We see that head coach bounce when they get fired

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Speaker 1: quite a bit, but so far in Carolina we didn't

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Speaker 1: see it, and Sam, this doesn't feel like another time

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Speaker 1: we're going to see it either.

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Speaker 4: No, the Bills are quite possibly the best team in

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Speaker 4: the AFC, and with the quarterback that the Chargers have

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Speaker 4: now quite possibly the worst team in the AFC, fourteen

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Speaker 4: points is a lot, but that's I mean, they should

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Speaker 4: have no issue with that. I do think if you

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Speaker 4: do want to invest in the Bills and it don't

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Speaker 4: want to do it on the spread. Josh Allen MVP

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Speaker 4: at fourteen to one right now. I mean, I know

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Speaker 4: everyone sort of thinks that Rock Party has locked it

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Speaker 4: up right now, but they still San Francisco still has

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Speaker 4: a couple of tough games to end the season. The

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Speaker 4: he's playing exceptionally well. I think voters might look for

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Speaker 1: Certainly an interesting one. A lot of quarterback chaos potentially

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Speaker 4: Yeah, this one was a tough one to get a

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Speaker 4: I do think the under for this game is in play.

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Speaker 4: Both neither of these teams play particularly fast. They've shown

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Speaker 4: so that's probably the one concern. But I just I

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Speaker 4: this right now and think this could be just an

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Speaker 1: Pack Can you make any money on the ugly?

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Speaker 2: We've got the West Coast team going to the Eastern

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Speaker 2: the formula and I'm not going to bet the Seahawks.

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Speaker 2: It's just a matter of whether I want to bet

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Speaker 2: get a rusty Ryan Tannehill most likely at quarterback. I

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Speaker 2: kind of agree with you, Joe. If I'm gonna bet it,

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna bet the Titans. But right now I'm leaning

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Speaker 3: From this one.

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Speaker 1: All right, Garner Minshak going off a great game is

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Speaker 1: going to take the Colts into Atlanta. This one's in Atlanta.

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Speaker 1: Atlanta is two point underdogs at home. Forty four and

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Speaker 1: I mean, they have got to come up with a

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Speaker 3: I do. I like the Colts.

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Speaker 2: The Falcons are four and ten against the spread this year,

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Speaker 2: that one badly. Also, Arthur Smith, Joe good Lord. The

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Speaker 2: Falcons ran fifty one offensive plays yesterday and Bijon Robinson,

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Speaker 2: So you've got three early first round draft picks selected

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Speaker 2: to power the engines of your offense, three of them,

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Speaker 2: and they're only being, you know, getting opportunities on one

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Speaker 2: not someone in whom I want to invest my money,

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Speaker 2: and in fact, I'm very happy to be against him.

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Speaker 1: All right, Sam, are you happy to bet against Arthur

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Speaker 4: Yep? It's it's death taxes and Shane Stiken being a

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Speaker 4: as well. The Falcons just couldn't do anything against the Panthers.

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Speaker 4: And I know it was rainy and that game was gross,

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Speaker 4: but rain typically helps the offense. And Desmond Ritter just

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Speaker 4: had another terrible interception in opponent territory. They can't really

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Speaker 4: do anything there. I continue to think that the Colts

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Speaker 4: excuse me the Colts in this situation.

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Speaker 1: All right, let's move on to the next game. Here

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Speaker 1: in the NFL here on BP Cleveland and Houston. Now,

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Speaker 1: hopefully you get CJ. Stroud back in this game. Cleveland

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Speaker 1: is nine and five. Sam, I know you love Cleveland.

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Speaker 1: I know you love that bet that we were talking

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Speaker 1: winning football games no matter who they lose. It's amazing

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Speaker 1: Houston Texans figure it out. Dimiico Ryan is just a

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Speaker 1: terrific job with that team. Houston at home minus two

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Speaker 1: So that being said, do you have any early leans

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Speaker 4: Yeah. I went back and forth on this one a

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Speaker 4: couple of times when when prepping this morning. I do

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Speaker 4: think CJ. Stroud is back in this game. Nico Collins

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Speaker 4: many as many passing yards as Joe Flacco is throwing

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Speaker 4: four I think it's making it seem like he's playing

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Speaker 4: better than he actually has since he's joined the Browns.

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Speaker 4: Among forty eight quarterbacks with at least seventy five dropbacks.

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Speaker 4: He ranks forty third in EPA per play, forty first

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Speaker 4: in success rate, forty third in CPOE, and thirtieth in

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Speaker 4: PFF passing great, So he's not really playing that well.

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Speaker 4: The Browns have come away with some wins, and the

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Speaker 4: Houston rushing defense has allowed a success rate over thirty

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Speaker 4: four percents just once in their last five games. They

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Speaker 4: the Texans want to wait until we know more about CJ.

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Speaker 1: Stroud's health, pat I want to bet the Browns. I

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Speaker 1: think there's something against theefanski another side of the coach.

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Speaker 1: There's done a terrific job here with this team defense travels.

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Speaker 1: We've seen that with Cleveland before. I think despite some

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Speaker 1: which is not something that the Cleveland fans are used

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Speaker 1: This is that statement game here where if you're Cleveland

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Speaker 1: and you're for real go in, you beat a young

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Speaker 1: plus one fifteen on the money line. I think that's

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Speaker 1: I like Cleveland, maybe I wait because if CJ. Stroud

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's not a bad premise. Joe bet the team

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Speaker 2: like I get that, and we've seen Joe Flacco, Like,

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Speaker 3: He is capable of moving it.

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Speaker 2: I mean he's averaging three hundred and thirteen passing yards

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Speaker 2: five interceptions in his three starts. And that's the thing

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Speaker 2: with Flacco, Like I'm kind of not eager to bet

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Speaker 2: I mean, if you get the combination of this Brown's

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Speaker 2: even though this Houston team is overachieved all year, like

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Speaker 2: But right now, I mean, I just have no feel

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Speaker 2: for this one, Joe. I don't think I'm gonna play it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I totally understand. I mean, these are two

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Speaker 1: which always makes it tough. And again, looking in the road,

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Speaker 1: I'm looking at value. To me, if this game is

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Speaker 1: but we'll see. I love CJ. Stroud, nobody loves Stroud

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Speaker 1: more than me. I just feel like Cleveland right now

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Speaker 1: is the side that I'm on to this one now.

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Speaker 1: I waited as long as I could because I know

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Speaker 1: we're finally gonna get to the Packers here. I waited

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Speaker 1: let you guys get loose a little bit in the

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Speaker 1: Packers six and eight going to Carolina two and twelve.

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Speaker 1: Carolina coming off of victory. Cremay coming off a loss,

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Speaker 1: would have thought that the Packers are four and a

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Speaker 1: half point favorites. Minus one ten thirty six is the

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Speaker 1: consensus number right now on betting pros. Minus two twenty

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Speaker 1: five for green Bay on the money line, plus one

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Speaker 1: eighty for Carolina. Pat get right game for the pack

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Speaker 1: You feel good about this one here?

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Speaker 3: Oh goodness, what a difference a week makes? Show?

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Speaker 2: Uh seven days and on this show a week ago,

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Speaker 2: Sam and I were full of holiday cheer, the Packers

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Speaker 2: at the inside track for a playoff spot, and they

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Speaker 2: have complete fallen on their faces with losses to the

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Speaker 2: Giants and Buccaneers. Joe, if we stay on this game

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Speaker 2: about how bad Packers defensive coordinated.

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Speaker 3: Joe, Barry, We'll get out.

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Speaker 1: I don't want to depress everybody, Yeah, I mean, look

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Speaker 2: Suffice it to say that Baker Mayfield just posted the

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Speaker 2: only perfect passer rating a visiting quarterback has ever posted

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Speaker 2: at lambeau Field and PFF just gave the Packers the

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Speaker 2: not feeling totally great about this team right now. I

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Speaker 2: don't like either side. I'm thinking of betting the over

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Speaker 2: in part because of my lack of confidence in Joe

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Speaker 2: on from me, please, Joe.

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Speaker 1: Sam pat has asked me to push the ball into

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Speaker 1: your side of the court, so the floor is yours.

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Speaker 1: Look it's Carolina. I know they came out with a victory,

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Speaker 1: but let's not go crazy here, hackers. Get right, Yes,

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Speaker 1: come on, boys, let's get let's let's let's get that

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, I think the Packers will win, but

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Speaker 4: I'm not confident enough to take them on the road

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00:21:11,680 --> 00:21:15,840
Speaker 4: against the spread. They've allowed six I don't even need

435
00:21:15,840 --> 00:21:17,960
Speaker 4: to say all these stats that tell how bad the

436
00:21:18,000 --> 00:21:20,280
Speaker 4: Packers defense has been the last couple of weeks. Here,

437
00:21:20,480 --> 00:21:23,119
Speaker 4: here's the crezy. Here's the one of the worst ones.

438
00:21:23,280 --> 00:21:26,399
Speaker 4: The Buccaneers had a point seventy two ep a per

439
00:21:26,440 --> 00:21:30,480
Speaker 4: play on pass attempts, so every four pass attempts they're

440
00:21:30,520 --> 00:21:33,600
Speaker 4: expected to score about three points. I mean, it was

441
00:21:34,359 --> 00:21:36,639
Speaker 4: it was so bad. And I understand you. You traded

442
00:21:36,640 --> 00:21:42,440
Speaker 4: away Rustull Douglas, you don't have Gyr Alexander, but something's

443
00:21:42,440 --> 00:21:45,920
Speaker 4: gotta change and you can't just be sitting back playing

444
00:21:45,960 --> 00:21:50,879
Speaker 4: soft zone defense and expect things to happen. Uh. And

445
00:21:50,920 --> 00:21:55,440
Speaker 4: I think Bryce Young made some decent passes this past weekend.

446
00:21:55,480 --> 00:21:59,160
Speaker 4: He certainly certainly is showing more lately that he can

447
00:21:59,320 --> 00:22:01,800
Speaker 4: scramble get out of the pocket, and Green Bay has

448
00:22:01,800 --> 00:22:06,040
Speaker 4: struggled with that as well the past several weeks. So again,

449
00:22:06,080 --> 00:22:08,919
Speaker 4: I think Green Bay wins the game, but I'm not

450
00:22:09,119 --> 00:22:11,240
Speaker 4: confident to take the four points there.

451
00:22:12,119 --> 00:22:14,600
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, that's it for the depressing part of

452
00:22:14,600 --> 00:22:16,280
Speaker 1: the show. We're going to get happy again. The New

453
00:22:16,359 --> 00:22:18,439
Speaker 1: York Jets. They're eliminated from the playoffs. They're at home

454
00:22:18,480 --> 00:22:20,800
Speaker 1: against the Washington Commanders. The Jets are five and nine,

455
00:22:21,119 --> 00:22:23,320
Speaker 1: the Commanders are four and ten. The Jets are three

456
00:22:23,320 --> 00:22:27,760
Speaker 1: point favorites now after getting shut out by the Miami Dolphins.

457
00:22:27,800 --> 00:22:30,280
Speaker 1: Zach Wilson went from player of the week to pariah

458
00:22:30,280 --> 00:22:32,560
Speaker 1: of the week. And Aaron Rodgers wants to get cleared

459
00:22:32,640 --> 00:22:34,399
Speaker 1: from practice, but I don't know if it matters now

460
00:22:34,440 --> 00:22:36,080
Speaker 1: if he still wants to come back, does he want

461
00:22:36,080 --> 00:22:37,920
Speaker 1: to prove a point and push the envelope? Who knows

462
00:22:38,080 --> 00:22:40,439
Speaker 1: thirty eight is the number plus one thirty five on

463
00:22:40,480 --> 00:22:42,280
Speaker 1: the Washington side. That's where I want to live on

464
00:22:42,320 --> 00:22:45,160
Speaker 1: this one, the plus one thirty five on the Washington side. Sam,

465
00:22:45,200 --> 00:22:47,200
Speaker 1: what do you think you're getting crazy with me with

466
00:22:47,240 --> 00:22:48,399
Speaker 1: the Washington Commanders or why?

467
00:22:48,840 --> 00:22:51,560
Speaker 4: I mean, I don't even think it's getting that crazy.

468
00:22:51,600 --> 00:22:55,760
Speaker 4: I don't know who's playing quarterback for the Jets. I

469
00:22:55,800 --> 00:23:00,600
Speaker 4: think Zach Wilson probably gives them the best chance to win,

470
00:23:00,760 --> 00:23:05,480
Speaker 4: but he suffered a concussion yesterday Washington, I don't think

471
00:23:05,800 --> 00:23:10,760
Speaker 4: if I remember correctly, Sam Howell getting benched wasn't because

472
00:23:10,760 --> 00:23:13,199
Speaker 4: of injury. It seemed like they were just sort of

473
00:23:13,280 --> 00:23:15,720
Speaker 4: out of the game and Ron Rivera made the switch

474
00:23:15,760 --> 00:23:20,320
Speaker 4: to Jacoby Brissette. Honestly, if they played Brissett and start him,

475
00:23:20,640 --> 00:23:24,880
Speaker 4: I think the Commanders should possibly be favored in this game.

476
00:23:24,920 --> 00:23:27,000
Speaker 4: I mean, I don't think they will be because the

477
00:23:27,080 --> 00:23:31,080
Speaker 4: Jets defense still is a strong unit and Washington's.

478
00:23:30,520 --> 00:23:31,840
Speaker 3: Is not at all.

479
00:23:31,880 --> 00:23:36,040
Speaker 4: But Jacoby Brissett looked really competent in the couple of

480
00:23:36,080 --> 00:23:40,600
Speaker 4: drives he had again quarterback yeah, which is again something

481
00:23:40,640 --> 00:23:44,160
Speaker 4: a lot of teams could could use these days, especially

482
00:23:44,160 --> 00:23:46,879
Speaker 4: the New York Jets. So I like the Commanders on

483
00:23:46,880 --> 00:23:49,439
Speaker 4: the money line again, I think with how variable that

484
00:23:49,560 --> 00:23:53,880
Speaker 4: offense can be, potentially taking on them on some alternate

485
00:23:53,920 --> 00:23:55,240
Speaker 4: spreads as well.

486
00:23:56,240 --> 00:23:59,640
Speaker 1: All right, Pat Jets Commanders thoughts.

487
00:24:00,960 --> 00:24:04,120
Speaker 2: I'm fascinated to see the matchup between the Jets offense

488
00:24:04,119 --> 00:24:06,360
Speaker 2: and the Commander's defense, Like that's going to be a

489
00:24:06,400 --> 00:24:12,280
Speaker 2: slow motion train wreck that you just can't look away from. Joe,

490
00:24:12,280 --> 00:24:13,760
Speaker 2: I don't want to take a side in what to

491
00:24:13,800 --> 00:24:17,720
Speaker 2: me looks like a really unpredictable game between two bad teams.

492
00:24:17,960 --> 00:24:21,240
Speaker 2: But I have already bet the under in this game

493
00:24:22,320 --> 00:24:25,600
Speaker 2: under thirty eight. The Washington offense has kind of been

494
00:24:25,640 --> 00:24:28,960
Speaker 2: struggling lately, Like the Commanders have scored twenty points or

495
00:24:28,960 --> 00:24:32,000
Speaker 2: fewer and four straight games that includes games against the

496
00:24:32,040 --> 00:24:34,239
Speaker 2: Giants in the RAMS, So it's not like it's just

497
00:24:34,520 --> 00:24:36,280
Speaker 2: they're running into great defenses that.

498
00:24:36,280 --> 00:24:37,800
Speaker 3: Are stopping them.

499
00:24:38,080 --> 00:24:40,320
Speaker 2: The Commanders throw the ball at a higher rate than

500
00:24:40,359 --> 00:24:42,920
Speaker 2: anyone else in the league, and although the Jets are bad,

501
00:24:42,960 --> 00:24:46,480
Speaker 2: the one thing they do do very well is shut

502
00:24:46,480 --> 00:24:50,440
Speaker 2: down opponents passing games except for this week against the Dolphins.

503
00:24:51,560 --> 00:24:55,920
Speaker 3: Meanwhile, the Jets, Jets offenses have quit the Jets maybe

504
00:24:55,920 --> 00:24:57,280
Speaker 3: they have, maybe they have.

505
00:24:57,600 --> 00:24:59,640
Speaker 1: You saw I think you saw that third quarter, fourth

506
00:24:59,720 --> 00:25:01,720
Speaker 1: quarter in that game is like, Okay, you know we're

507
00:25:01,760 --> 00:25:03,399
Speaker 1: out of it. This is it, This was our moment,

508
00:25:03,680 --> 00:25:06,440
Speaker 1: this was everything was riding on this pat I know,

509
00:25:06,880 --> 00:25:09,919
Speaker 1: maybe Rogers comes back, we stay relevant, we win in

510
00:25:09,960 --> 00:25:12,439
Speaker 1: division game as a huge win against the Miami Dolphins.

511
00:25:12,480 --> 00:25:14,240
Speaker 1: That going to Miami do that. You had the momentum

512
00:25:14,280 --> 00:25:16,560
Speaker 1: of the previous week with a huge win and it

513
00:25:16,600 --> 00:25:18,560
Speaker 1: all just fell apart and all just disintegrated. And I

514
00:25:18,560 --> 00:25:21,000
Speaker 1: think that takes toll mentally on a team.

515
00:25:21,440 --> 00:25:24,359
Speaker 2: I don't know if Sam Howell or Jacoby Brissett are

516
00:25:24,400 --> 00:25:27,280
Speaker 2: dicing up even a disinterested Jets defense.

517
00:25:27,320 --> 00:25:28,280
Speaker 3: Though Joe and.

518
00:25:28,680 --> 00:25:31,199
Speaker 1: Like Terry McLaurin, had some moments in that game yesterday.

519
00:25:31,560 --> 00:25:34,520
Speaker 1: You reminded everybody how spectacular of Talenty is.

520
00:25:34,560 --> 00:25:37,000
Speaker 2: The sideline catch that got disallowed was one of the

521
00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:40,399
Speaker 2: craziest catches you're ever gonna see. But meanwhile, like the

522
00:25:40,520 --> 00:25:43,120
Speaker 2: Jets offense is so bad, I don't like I think

523
00:25:43,119 --> 00:25:45,880
Speaker 2: they are capable of making the Commander's defense look good.

524
00:25:45,880 --> 00:25:47,800
Speaker 2: So I do not see this game getting to thirty

525
00:25:47,800 --> 00:25:49,560
Speaker 2: eight points. To me, that's one of the better bets

526
00:25:49,600 --> 00:25:49,960
Speaker 2: of the week.

527
00:25:50,880 --> 00:25:51,520
Speaker 1: Oh I like that.

528
00:25:52,640 --> 00:25:54,840
Speaker 3: Get it now. It's gonna come down, so get it

529
00:25:54,880 --> 00:25:55,840
Speaker 3: now at thirty eight.

530
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Speaker 1: Good good call there. By the way, the next game

531
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Speaker 1: as a pretty big number forty seven for Minnesota Detroit.

532
00:26:03,080 --> 00:26:05,680
Speaker 1: This one's in Minnesota. The Troit is three point favorites

533
00:26:05,720 --> 00:26:08,120
Speaker 1: on the road plus one forty on the Minnesota side

534
00:26:08,119 --> 00:26:10,840
Speaker 1: for the upset. I got Nick Mullins's past week. I

535
00:26:10,880 --> 00:26:13,320
Speaker 1: assume that's what we're gonna get again. Detroit at ten

536
00:26:13,359 --> 00:26:16,640
Speaker 1: to four. Big victory for them. Your thoughts here, does

537
00:26:16,680 --> 00:26:20,200
Speaker 1: the gravy train keep rolling into the Detroit Lions back

538
00:26:20,240 --> 00:26:22,479
Speaker 1: on track here or to the Minnesota Vikings. There were

539
00:26:22,480 --> 00:26:28,000
Speaker 1: a little little hiccup in things here for the Detroit Lions.

540
00:26:29,000 --> 00:26:31,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I think everyone's first instinct is going

541
00:26:31,800 --> 00:26:34,800
Speaker 2: to be to take the Lions after their nationally televised

542
00:26:34,800 --> 00:26:40,439
Speaker 2: paddling of the Broncos on Saturday night, and after, for

543
00:26:40,480 --> 00:26:44,399
Speaker 2: that matter, after the Vikings nationally televised meltown against the

544
00:26:44,440 --> 00:26:45,920
Speaker 2: Bengals on Saturday afternoon.

545
00:26:47,160 --> 00:26:48,160
Speaker 3: I'm not quite.

546
00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:50,480
Speaker 2: Ready to believe that all as well with the Lions,

547
00:26:50,520 --> 00:26:54,399
Speaker 2: though Joe like that went over the Broncos. Before that,

548
00:26:54,880 --> 00:26:58,159
Speaker 2: the Lions had not beaten anyone convincingly in a long time.

549
00:26:58,800 --> 00:27:02,360
Speaker 2: They had bad losses to the Packers. They squeaked out

550
00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:07,160
Speaker 2: wins over the Saints, the Bears, the Chargers. So does

551
00:27:07,240 --> 00:27:10,080
Speaker 2: one game and we know when the Lions are clicking

552
00:27:10,080 --> 00:27:14,960
Speaker 2: on offensively on offense, as they were Saturday night against

553
00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:18,159
Speaker 2: the Broncos, it's like they can look so impressive. But

554
00:27:18,240 --> 00:27:20,240
Speaker 2: we hadn't really seen that for a while. Like Jared

555
00:27:20,280 --> 00:27:24,000
Speaker 2: Goff had not been playing particularly well. So the Lions

556
00:27:24,040 --> 00:27:26,120
Speaker 2: are a better team than the Vikings. But I'm not

557
00:27:26,240 --> 00:27:28,639
Speaker 2: betting this game. I just don't think there's enough value

558
00:27:28,760 --> 00:27:30,760
Speaker 2: to pull me over to the Lion's side.

559
00:27:31,480 --> 00:27:33,680
Speaker 1: Sam, is there any value on this game or particularly

560
00:27:33,680 --> 00:27:34,720
Speaker 1: in the forty seven?

561
00:27:35,960 --> 00:27:38,280
Speaker 4: I think there's a little bit of value on the Lions.

562
00:27:38,400 --> 00:27:41,240
Speaker 4: This is the first of two matchups we get in

563
00:27:41,280 --> 00:27:44,760
Speaker 4: the final three weeks of the season. Between these two games,

564
00:27:45,320 --> 00:27:49,600
Speaker 4: the Vikings, as we know, love to blitz and Jared

565
00:27:49,600 --> 00:27:52,280
Speaker 4: Goff has struggled against the Blitzy has a sixty point

566
00:27:52,359 --> 00:27:57,400
Speaker 4: two PFF grade, which is twenty ninth among qualifying quarterbacks.

567
00:27:57,440 --> 00:28:01,080
Speaker 4: But the current way to attack sort of defense right

568
00:28:01,080 --> 00:28:03,360
Speaker 4: now is by running the ball. I think that's how

569
00:28:03,440 --> 00:28:07,560
Speaker 4: Detroit attacks that. Even though they had a positive password

570
00:28:07,600 --> 00:28:11,080
Speaker 4: over expectation for the first time since Week seven this

571
00:28:11,200 --> 00:28:15,639
Speaker 4: past week. But Jamira Gibbs looks phenomenal right now. He

572
00:28:15,840 --> 00:28:20,399
Speaker 4: is explosive, and I think the Viking, excuse me, the

573
00:28:20,440 --> 00:28:23,879
Speaker 4: Lions are back on track. I mean, yes, it had

574
00:28:23,920 --> 00:28:28,359
Speaker 4: been a while since this Lions offense had clicked, but

575
00:28:28,600 --> 00:28:31,800
Speaker 4: they did it against a Broncos defense that had been

576
00:28:32,440 --> 00:28:36,480
Speaker 4: stifling opposing offense for the last month and a half

577
00:28:36,560 --> 00:28:40,920
Speaker 4: or two months. So I'm excited. I think the Lions

578
00:28:40,960 --> 00:28:43,880
Speaker 4: hold a little bit of value. This is indoors still,

579
00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:48,320
Speaker 4: so it's not in away game outside for for Jared Goffin,

580
00:28:48,880 --> 00:28:51,880
Speaker 4: I think Detroit is going to show once again that

581
00:28:51,960 --> 00:28:54,120
Speaker 4: they're part of the class of the NFC.

582
00:28:55,080 --> 00:28:57,560
Speaker 1: Tampa Bay is at seven and seven. They were at

583
00:28:57,560 --> 00:29:01,560
Speaker 1: home one point underdogs at home home to the Jacksonville Jaguars,

584
00:29:01,560 --> 00:29:05,920
Speaker 1: coming off another tough loss there for them. Jaguars just

585
00:29:05,920 --> 00:29:08,080
Speaker 1: seeming like a team that just needs a couple more pieces,

586
00:29:08,120 --> 00:29:11,400
Speaker 1: some offensive line pieces. Maybe next year, maybe they're ready

587
00:29:11,440 --> 00:29:14,160
Speaker 1: to take that leap, but they're very frustrating team from

588
00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:16,520
Speaker 1: I think a wagering standpoint forty three and a half

589
00:29:16,560 --> 00:29:18,920
Speaker 1: is the number minus one ten you can get on

590
00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:21,000
Speaker 1: either side of this game here right now on the

591
00:29:21,000 --> 00:29:23,160
Speaker 1: money line, and that's kind of where I'm living. It feels,

592
00:29:23,280 --> 00:29:25,040
Speaker 1: I mean, Vegas is telling you it to pick him.

593
00:29:25,360 --> 00:29:28,480
Speaker 1: Here's Sam So basically, do you want to take Tampa

594
00:29:28,560 --> 00:29:30,960
Speaker 1: at home, who is sort of gaining a little momentum,

595
00:29:31,040 --> 00:29:33,640
Speaker 1: or a team in Jacksonville that continues to It feels

596
00:29:33,640 --> 00:29:35,520
Speaker 1: like Jacksonville just spins its wheels a little bit, and

597
00:29:35,960 --> 00:29:37,920
Speaker 1: maybe Lawrence's health is a big part of that as

598
00:29:37,920 --> 00:29:39,720
Speaker 1: well some of the other injuries that they've had on offense.

599
00:29:39,760 --> 00:29:41,640
Speaker 1: What do you think here about this one here Jacksonville

600
00:29:41,640 --> 00:29:43,479
Speaker 1: going to Tampa. Is this is a spot where Tampa

601
00:29:43,520 --> 00:29:44,640
Speaker 1: really should be the favorite.

602
00:29:45,320 --> 00:29:49,040
Speaker 4: Well, it went a little under the radar last night,

603
00:29:49,080 --> 00:29:52,160
Speaker 4: but Trevor Lawrence is in the concussion protocol as of

604
00:29:52,480 --> 00:29:57,640
Speaker 4: Monday morning, which again like there wasn't any real I

605
00:29:57,920 --> 00:30:00,560
Speaker 4: don't think he left the game at all last night.

606
00:30:00,680 --> 00:30:04,520
Speaker 4: But they also lost Say Jones to a hamstring injury

607
00:30:04,560 --> 00:30:07,280
Speaker 4: that I would expect will keep him out of this game.

608
00:30:07,360 --> 00:30:10,440
Speaker 4: So it's down to Calvin Ridley and Evan Ingram. And

609
00:30:10,480 --> 00:30:14,640
Speaker 4: like the depth that they have at receiver Jamal swagnuw

610
00:30:14,680 --> 00:30:18,960
Speaker 4: with a great long touchdown catch this past week. But

611
00:30:19,680 --> 00:30:22,120
Speaker 4: I don't want to touch this game until we know

612
00:30:22,280 --> 00:30:25,360
Speaker 4: more about Trevor Lawrence and whether he's going to play.

613
00:30:26,480 --> 00:30:29,680
Speaker 1: Pat I'm into this one. I'm buying the Bucks at home.

614
00:30:29,720 --> 00:30:32,640
Speaker 2: What do you think I bet the Buccaneers today get

615
00:30:32,720 --> 00:30:36,680
Speaker 2: and I got two and a half points on DraftKings Joe,

616
00:30:36,840 --> 00:30:40,080
Speaker 2: and because this game did strike me as a game

617
00:30:40,120 --> 00:30:42,440
Speaker 2: that should be a pick them, Like, I feel like

618
00:30:42,480 --> 00:30:46,120
Speaker 2: the Buccaneers are basically a league average team, and the

619
00:30:46,160 --> 00:30:49,320
Speaker 2: way the Jaguars have played lately, I don't think they've

620
00:30:49,320 --> 00:30:52,000
Speaker 2: been much better than a league average team. So you're

621
00:30:52,040 --> 00:30:55,160
Speaker 2: throwing the injuries that Sam mangined with the you know,

622
00:30:55,440 --> 00:30:58,960
Speaker 2: the wide receiver shortage they have right now, and Trevor Lawrence.

623
00:30:59,000 --> 00:31:01,480
Speaker 2: I mean, I think Laura and So will probably play,

624
00:31:01,960 --> 00:31:04,320
Speaker 2: but if he doesn't, oh boy, I mean what a value?

625
00:31:04,480 --> 00:31:07,880
Speaker 2: So yeah, like I do think this should be a pick.

626
00:31:07,920 --> 00:31:10,840
Speaker 2: I mean, if you're getting points with the Buccaneers taking

627
00:31:10,880 --> 00:31:13,080
Speaker 2: the points or betting the money line makes sense to me.

628
00:31:14,160 --> 00:31:15,920
Speaker 1: All right, let's continue on here. We've got a lot

629
00:31:15,920 --> 00:31:19,680
Speaker 1: of games to get to Arizona Chicago. The Bears were

630
00:31:19,680 --> 00:31:21,120
Speaker 1: in this one of the Bears defense played very well.

631
00:31:21,160 --> 00:31:23,280
Speaker 1: The Arizona Cardinals defense was a joke. There were guys

632
00:31:23,320 --> 00:31:28,160
Speaker 1: so wide open, unbelievable, you know, over twelve yards sometimes

633
00:31:28,160 --> 00:31:30,280
Speaker 1: some of these guys, either we Caffrey or Deebo were

634
00:31:30,320 --> 00:31:33,520
Speaker 1: open in this game. It was stunning. The Bears are

635
00:31:33,600 --> 00:31:35,360
Speaker 1: four and a half point favorites against the Cardinals and

636
00:31:35,400 --> 00:31:36,880
Speaker 1: this one forty four and a half is the number

637
00:31:36,920 --> 00:31:38,720
Speaker 1: plus one eighty on the money line for the Cardinals.

638
00:31:39,600 --> 00:31:42,360
Speaker 1: It's weird to feel comfortable with Chicago being favored by

639
00:31:42,360 --> 00:31:44,600
Speaker 1: four and a half points, but Pat, I feel comfortable

640
00:31:44,760 --> 00:31:47,000
Speaker 1: that Arizona's not going to go into Chicago and December

641
00:31:47,040 --> 00:31:49,960
Speaker 1: and win this football game or get closer with the

642
00:31:49,960 --> 00:31:52,920
Speaker 1: way that defense played. Plus, you know, Kyler Murray got

643
00:31:53,040 --> 00:31:54,640
Speaker 1: kind of rocked in that game a little bit too.

644
00:31:54,760 --> 00:31:57,280
Speaker 1: I don't know, I'm just I though. The Bears are

645
00:31:57,280 --> 00:31:59,680
Speaker 1: far from perfect, but the Bears have been very competitive,

646
00:31:59,680 --> 00:32:01,800
Speaker 1: and I think this is finally a matchup that almost

647
00:32:01,800 --> 00:32:04,600
Speaker 1: goes their way in terms of the you're finally getting

648
00:32:04,600 --> 00:32:06,760
Speaker 1: a cookie, and I think they've been desperate for this

649
00:32:06,800 --> 00:32:08,240
Speaker 1: kind of matchup and I think they're getting one here.

650
00:32:08,280 --> 00:32:08,800
Speaker 1: What do you think?

651
00:32:08,960 --> 00:32:10,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean you said it, Joe laying the four

652
00:32:11,040 --> 00:32:14,479
Speaker 2: points with a Chicago Bears team that like and this

653
00:32:14,640 --> 00:32:16,600
Speaker 2: was the difference between a winning week for me and

654
00:32:16,640 --> 00:32:21,120
Speaker 2: a juice losing week, Joe. The Bears inability to close

655
00:32:21,600 --> 00:32:24,280
Speaker 2: a win they should have had against the Browns. I

656
00:32:24,360 --> 00:32:26,200
Speaker 2: think that's the only thing that gives you pause. The

657
00:32:26,240 --> 00:32:29,680
Speaker 2: Bears are clearly the better team here. Their defense has

658
00:32:29,720 --> 00:32:32,080
Speaker 2: played really well of late. They can move the ball

659
00:32:32,120 --> 00:32:35,800
Speaker 2: with justin fields, and you pointed out some of the

660
00:32:35,800 --> 00:32:41,040
Speaker 2: flaws the Cardinals have, So yeah, like, I do think

661
00:32:41,080 --> 00:32:43,320
Speaker 2: there's value in the Bears. We also talked about how

662
00:32:43,360 --> 00:32:45,640
Speaker 2: with a warm weather team going up to a place

663
00:32:45,720 --> 00:32:49,000
Speaker 2: like Soldier Field in Chicago in late December, mid December,

664
00:32:49,720 --> 00:32:52,000
Speaker 2: home field might be worth more than two points, and

665
00:32:52,200 --> 00:32:54,160
Speaker 2: I think that could be the case here. So yes,

666
00:32:54,320 --> 00:32:57,200
Speaker 2: I like the Bears. I also think the under might

667
00:32:57,240 --> 00:32:59,280
Speaker 2: be a pretty good play here because of how good

668
00:32:59,280 --> 00:33:02,920
Speaker 2: the Bears defense is. And you know, the Bears themselves

669
00:33:03,320 --> 00:33:06,400
Speaker 2: are only averaging nineteen point two points over their last

670
00:33:06,440 --> 00:33:09,520
Speaker 2: five games. So for the over to land here, both

671
00:33:09,560 --> 00:33:11,840
Speaker 2: teams would have to click on offense to some degree,

672
00:33:11,840 --> 00:33:14,120
Speaker 2: and it's kind of hard to see that happening, especially

673
00:33:14,120 --> 00:33:16,840
Speaker 2: in a game where weather could potentially be a factor.

674
00:33:18,200 --> 00:33:20,280
Speaker 1: Sam, what do you think, Chicago, Arizona? You think that

675
00:33:20,280 --> 00:33:21,080
Speaker 1: four and a half a save?

676
00:33:22,480 --> 00:33:25,400
Speaker 4: No? I don't. I don't really like either side in

677
00:33:25,440 --> 00:33:28,840
Speaker 4: this one. Looking at the forecast for Chicago, looks like

678
00:33:28,880 --> 00:33:31,960
Speaker 4: it's going to be a bone chilling forty seven degrees

679
00:33:32,600 --> 00:33:37,320
Speaker 4: for some December Chicago weather. So I don't think the

680
00:33:37,360 --> 00:33:38,719
Speaker 4: weather impacts things that much.

681
00:33:38,760 --> 00:33:44,160
Speaker 1: I think for the Arizona folks, yeah, that is very true.

682
00:33:44,880 --> 00:33:47,040
Speaker 4: But I think what's driving this total up is just

683
00:33:47,120 --> 00:33:51,320
Speaker 4: we have two exciting, elusive quarterbacks who can make things

684
00:33:51,680 --> 00:33:55,240
Speaker 4: happen on the ground. But to Pat's point, this Bears

685
00:33:55,280 --> 00:34:00,280
Speaker 4: defense continues to impress. The Cardinals offense at times looked

686
00:34:00,280 --> 00:34:03,200
Speaker 4: like he had some spunk against the forty nine ers,

687
00:34:03,240 --> 00:34:08,239
Speaker 4: But excuse me, Kyler Murray, with him getting banged up,

688
00:34:08,600 --> 00:34:11,359
Speaker 4: I think the under is the right play in that game.

689
00:34:12,160 --> 00:34:14,480
Speaker 1: All right, This is a fun one here Christmas Eve

690
00:34:14,800 --> 00:34:18,000
Speaker 1: for twenty five Eastern Dallas Miami. Both teams are ten

691
00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:19,800
Speaker 1: and four. Miami at home is a one and a

692
00:34:19,800 --> 00:34:22,240
Speaker 1: half point favorite right now with the consensus betting pros line,

693
00:34:22,520 --> 00:34:24,920
Speaker 1: fifty one is the number for this game Dallas plus

694
00:34:24,920 --> 00:34:27,080
Speaker 1: one oh five. So look, we got the answer to

695
00:34:27,160 --> 00:34:29,440
Speaker 1: the question. Is dak ready to take that step forward

696
00:34:29,480 --> 00:34:31,200
Speaker 1: and all of a sudden lead a team on the

697
00:34:31,280 --> 00:34:33,360
Speaker 1: road to a big win? And I think that was

698
00:34:33,360 --> 00:34:35,719
Speaker 1: a resounding no yesterday as they got their brains beat

699
00:34:35,800 --> 00:34:38,520
Speaker 1: in by the Buffalo Bills, and I mean literally and

700
00:34:38,600 --> 00:34:41,839
Speaker 1: figuratively in this game. Now they're going to Miami. We'll

701
00:34:41,880 --> 00:34:44,200
Speaker 1: see what your thoughts are here, Sam, But this one

702
00:34:44,640 --> 00:34:47,440
Speaker 1: again Vegas basically telling you to choose your adventure, So

703
00:34:47,440 --> 00:34:48,319
Speaker 1: which one you want to take?

704
00:34:49,120 --> 00:34:52,399
Speaker 4: I'm going with the Dolphins here. We've got a bit

705
00:34:52,400 --> 00:34:55,839
Speaker 4: of a Spider Man meme matchup of two teams that

706
00:34:56,160 --> 00:35:00,840
Speaker 4: haven't really gotten it done against good teams season, so

707
00:35:00,960 --> 00:35:03,560
Speaker 4: one of them is gonna have to do that this week.

708
00:35:03,840 --> 00:35:06,120
Speaker 4: I think there are a couple of defensive matchups for

709
00:35:06,360 --> 00:35:09,560
Speaker 4: Miami that are are pretty big. Christian Wilkins right now

710
00:35:09,600 --> 00:35:13,200
Speaker 4: playing some really incredible ball on the defensive line, and

711
00:35:13,920 --> 00:35:17,440
Speaker 4: Zach Martin if he is out, could make things even worse.

712
00:35:17,600 --> 00:35:21,080
Speaker 4: For Dallas. Jalen Ramsey potentially lined up against Ceedee Lamb

713
00:35:21,120 --> 00:35:24,200
Speaker 4: when he's lined up out wide. So I think Miami

714
00:35:24,280 --> 00:35:27,640
Speaker 4: gets Tyreek hillback for this game as well. And and

715
00:35:27,880 --> 00:35:31,680
Speaker 4: the Cowboys secondary I don't think is playing has not

716
00:35:31,800 --> 00:35:34,640
Speaker 4: played as well the last several weeks. With all of

717
00:35:34,680 --> 00:35:37,520
Speaker 4: the firepower that Miami has on offense, I think they're

718
00:35:37,560 --> 00:35:40,040
Speaker 4: able to take care of Dallas this.

719
00:35:39,960 --> 00:35:45,320
Speaker 1: Week, Patuh To Sam's point, Miami has struggled against teams

720
00:35:45,320 --> 00:35:49,000
Speaker 1: that you know are above them theoretically right, punching up

721
00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:50,839
Speaker 1: has not been there for today. They've beaten the teams

722
00:35:50,840 --> 00:35:53,279
Speaker 1: are supposed to beat. Dallas is more of a test.

723
00:35:53,520 --> 00:35:56,560
Speaker 1: They have also failed most tests. So of these two

724
00:35:56,600 --> 00:36:01,000
Speaker 1: teams that are good against bad playing each other, who

725
00:36:01,040 --> 00:36:01,840
Speaker 1: comes out the victor.

726
00:36:02,120 --> 00:36:04,280
Speaker 2: But you guys are not gonna be on Jerry Jones'

727
00:36:04,400 --> 00:36:07,680
Speaker 2: Christmas card list this year, Like Joe, you're just trashing

728
00:36:07,680 --> 00:36:10,040
Speaker 2: them for how they played against Buffalo, Sam sing, they

729
00:36:10,080 --> 00:36:13,680
Speaker 2: haven't beaten anyone after they squashed the Eagles in Week fourteen.

730
00:36:15,200 --> 00:36:18,480
Speaker 2: Like I'm not going to penalize the Cowboys too much

731
00:36:18,520 --> 00:36:21,480
Speaker 2: for the egg they laid in Buffalo yesterday. As bad

732
00:36:21,480 --> 00:36:24,560
Speaker 2: as they were against the Bills in Week fifteen. I mean,

733
00:36:24,600 --> 00:36:27,680
Speaker 2: like that game against the Eagles. They were that terrific

734
00:36:27,920 --> 00:36:31,000
Speaker 2: the week prior so. But it was good to see

735
00:36:31,000 --> 00:36:33,719
Speaker 2: that the Dolphins didn't miss a beat without Tyreek Hill

736
00:36:33,760 --> 00:36:35,280
Speaker 2: and just squashed the Jets.

737
00:36:35,280 --> 00:36:37,360
Speaker 3: So I do think this is a good line. I

738
00:36:37,400 --> 00:36:38,880
Speaker 3: can't wait to watch it. I'm not going to.

739
00:36:38,920 --> 00:36:41,120
Speaker 1: Bet it, all right, I don't know if you can

740
00:36:41,120 --> 00:36:43,400
Speaker 1: wait to watch this one. The New England Patriots and

741
00:36:43,400 --> 00:36:46,839
Speaker 1: the Denver Broncos. Pat I know, get excited. Minus six

742
00:36:46,920 --> 00:36:49,800
Speaker 1: for Denver in their building feels about right again, a

743
00:36:49,840 --> 00:36:52,520
Speaker 1: lot of points for Denver, but it is the New

744
00:36:52,560 --> 00:36:54,960
Speaker 1: England Patriots and they are definitely done. Thirty four and

745
00:36:55,000 --> 00:36:56,680
Speaker 1: a half is the number for this one. Plus two

746
00:36:56,680 --> 00:36:58,960
Speaker 1: to twenty on the upset line for New England. Now, look,

747
00:36:59,040 --> 00:37:01,279
Speaker 1: you know we thought, you know, they didn't have anything

748
00:37:01,320 --> 00:37:03,120
Speaker 1: left in the tank, and then they went into Pittsburgh

749
00:37:03,200 --> 00:37:05,160
Speaker 1: and won a game. Can they steal another one here?

750
00:37:05,200 --> 00:37:07,360
Speaker 1: Pat or do you want to at least be on

751
00:37:07,440 --> 00:37:10,120
Speaker 1: the side of that six that plus number on the

752
00:37:10,120 --> 00:37:12,880
Speaker 1: New England side considering all the shortcomings of Denver.

753
00:37:13,280 --> 00:37:16,400
Speaker 3: No, I want to take the Broncos here. Joe at home.

754
00:37:17,160 --> 00:37:19,480
Speaker 2: This opened with the Broncos favored by five and a half,

755
00:37:19,560 --> 00:37:21,360
Speaker 2: and I think some other people saw the value in

756
00:37:21,400 --> 00:37:23,960
Speaker 2: Denver too, because it quickly got bet up to six.

757
00:37:25,360 --> 00:37:27,880
Speaker 2: Terrible game for them Saturday night in Detroit, one of

758
00:37:27,920 --> 00:37:32,080
Speaker 2: those burned the film type games. But the Broncos have

759
00:37:32,200 --> 00:37:35,080
Speaker 2: been the much much better team over the last month

760
00:37:35,120 --> 00:37:37,359
Speaker 2: and a half than the Patriots have been. Like if

761
00:37:37,400 --> 00:37:42,000
Speaker 2: you take away the Week fifteen result and figure out

762
00:37:42,040 --> 00:37:43,560
Speaker 2: what this line would have been, I feel like it

763
00:37:43,560 --> 00:37:45,360
Speaker 2: would have been Broncos like minus eight and a.

764
00:37:45,400 --> 00:37:48,239
Speaker 3: Half or something like that. So I'm happy to take

765
00:37:48,239 --> 00:37:49,480
Speaker 3: the Broncos. I think there's.

766
00:37:49,360 --> 00:37:53,240
Speaker 1: Value sam Broncos or Pats.

767
00:37:54,760 --> 00:37:57,480
Speaker 4: I hate that I am on the Patriots again this week.

768
00:37:57,600 --> 00:38:00,560
Speaker 4: Last week I said, if that game gets out the digits,

769
00:38:00,560 --> 00:38:02,799
Speaker 4: then take the Patriots. And it did get to ten

770
00:38:02,840 --> 00:38:06,000
Speaker 4: at some points at some places throughout the week, which

771
00:38:06,040 --> 00:38:09,240
Speaker 4: means if you got that at worse, you pushed because

772
00:38:09,320 --> 00:38:12,800
Speaker 4: for some reason, Kansas City took a kneel on fourth

773
00:38:12,880 --> 00:38:16,959
Speaker 4: down with less than a minute left. But Denver still

774
00:38:17,000 --> 00:38:20,640
Speaker 4: wants to run the ball a bit and New England's

775
00:38:20,680 --> 00:38:24,480
Speaker 4: rushing defense is elite. I mean it's it doesn't get

776
00:38:24,520 --> 00:38:27,359
Speaker 4: a lot of shine or credit because of the way

777
00:38:27,400 --> 00:38:29,680
Speaker 4: the rest of the team is playing, but they are

778
00:38:29,760 --> 00:38:34,399
Speaker 4: able to shut down opposing rushing attacks. And I don't

779
00:38:34,400 --> 00:38:39,279
Speaker 4: think the Denver passing attack is really good enough to

780
00:38:40,160 --> 00:38:44,399
Speaker 4: take advantage of that particular weakness. So in a low

781
00:38:44,480 --> 00:38:48,279
Speaker 4: scoring game, give me, give me the Patriots again.

782
00:38:50,440 --> 00:38:52,640
Speaker 1: Begrudgingly. I'll tell you what. Just run to the Javonte

783
00:38:52,680 --> 00:38:55,600
Speaker 1: Williams under because bywar's a layer at an under. We

784
00:38:55,680 --> 00:38:58,040
Speaker 1: talked about that on the Prop Show this week. Louis

785
00:38:58,080 --> 00:39:00,799
Speaker 1: before was the under on all the Pittsburgh running back

786
00:39:00,840 --> 00:39:02,680
Speaker 1: to that one worked out like, just keep taking the

787
00:39:02,760 --> 00:39:04,680
Speaker 1: unders on the RBS against New England. That's the best

788
00:39:04,719 --> 00:39:07,239
Speaker 1: bet in this game period. End of story. Next one

789
00:39:07,239 --> 00:39:09,520
Speaker 1: here in Las Vegas at Kansas City. Speaking of the

790
00:39:09,600 --> 00:39:12,360
Speaker 1: Kansasity Chiefs. They are now nine to five, a victory,

791
00:39:12,400 --> 00:39:15,120
Speaker 1: but still not a happy one for Patrick Mahomes. Six

792
00:39:15,160 --> 00:39:17,640
Speaker 1: and eight are the Vegas Raiders after putting up a

793
00:39:17,680 --> 00:39:20,040
Speaker 1: sixty three spot. Now they're going to go to Kansas City.

794
00:39:20,040 --> 00:39:22,280
Speaker 1: Typically this would be a smash here, and look though,

795
00:39:22,480 --> 00:39:25,719
Speaker 1: Vegas is showing confidence a ten points here on the

796
00:39:25,800 --> 00:39:27,759
Speaker 1: side of the Kansas City Chiefs. Forty three is the

797
00:39:27,840 --> 00:39:30,000
Speaker 1: number for this one plus three seventy five for the

798
00:39:30,080 --> 00:39:33,320
Speaker 1: Raiders on the money line, Sam, The Kansas City Chiefs

799
00:39:33,440 --> 00:39:37,960
Speaker 1: win games, but they still continue to drop passes everywhere?

800
00:39:38,080 --> 00:39:41,319
Speaker 1: Canarius Tony more nonsense? Even Kelsey had a drop there

801
00:39:41,400 --> 00:39:45,160
Speaker 1: in the end zone. I mean, Patrick Mahomes and companies

802
00:39:45,160 --> 00:39:47,960
Speaker 1: certainly look like a team that is struggling, despite the

803
00:39:47,960 --> 00:39:50,279
Speaker 1: fact that they are still very much in the hunt

804
00:39:50,320 --> 00:39:53,359
Speaker 1: for the number one seeds. So can they win by

805
00:39:53,480 --> 00:39:56,120
Speaker 1: ten at home against the Raiders?

806
00:39:57,600 --> 00:39:58,040
Speaker 3: Can they?

807
00:39:58,160 --> 00:40:01,719
Speaker 4: Yes? I mean they were down fourteen nothing to the

808
00:40:01,800 --> 00:40:04,080
Speaker 4: Raiders in their first matchup a couple of weeks ago,

809
00:40:04,200 --> 00:40:08,399
Speaker 4: end up winning by by fourteen points. The I mean

810
00:40:08,400 --> 00:40:10,879
Speaker 4: what Vegas did on on Thursday night. Granted it again

811
00:40:10,920 --> 00:40:14,880
Speaker 4: it was against the Chargers team that we talked about,

812
00:40:15,080 --> 00:40:19,799
Speaker 4: but I can't I can't invest on either side. I mean,

813
00:40:19,880 --> 00:40:22,839
Speaker 4: like Mahomes is just I got a feel for the guy,

814
00:40:23,040 --> 00:40:29,319
Speaker 4: like he is frustrated, like it's and I don't blame him.

815
00:40:29,320 --> 00:40:32,600
Speaker 4: So the Chiefs offense still in a funk. I mean,

816
00:40:32,640 --> 00:40:36,920
Speaker 4: I think they are. There are things that I mean,

817
00:40:36,960 --> 00:40:39,759
Speaker 4: I want to say the Drops are not going to

818
00:40:39,800 --> 00:40:42,759
Speaker 4: hold week to week, but they continue to do so,

819
00:40:42,800 --> 00:40:48,440
Speaker 4: I mean Rashi Rice is really the only reliable player

820
00:40:48,880 --> 00:40:52,319
Speaker 4: on that offense right now. I mean Travis Kelce even

821
00:40:52,920 --> 00:40:55,600
Speaker 4: it looks like the Ages is catching up to him

822
00:40:55,640 --> 00:40:59,319
Speaker 4: a bit. So I'm sticking with some player props on

823
00:40:59,320 --> 00:41:01,320
Speaker 4: this one instead of a Sider total.

824
00:41:01,520 --> 00:41:03,760
Speaker 1: Fair enough, this is the first game of the triple

825
00:41:03,800 --> 00:41:07,680
Speaker 1: header on Christmas Day. Pat your thoughts on this one here,

826
00:41:07,800 --> 00:41:08,680
Speaker 1: confidence of Casey.

827
00:41:09,239 --> 00:41:12,879
Speaker 2: No, I'm gonna echo Sam's sentiments completely on this one.

828
00:41:12,960 --> 00:41:16,320
Speaker 2: I just so Andy Reid has totally had the Raiders

829
00:41:16,440 --> 00:41:18,319
Speaker 2: number since he took the Chiefs job.

830
00:41:18,400 --> 00:41:18,480
Speaker 3: Like.

831
00:41:18,520 --> 00:41:20,920
Speaker 2: The Chiefs have won nine of their last ten against

832
00:41:20,920 --> 00:41:24,080
Speaker 2: the Raiders. They've covered six of those ten games. But

833
00:41:24,160 --> 00:41:27,400
Speaker 2: I just can't lay double digit points with the Chiefs

834
00:41:27,480 --> 00:41:30,640
Speaker 2: offense not firing on all cylinders. And we know they're

835
00:41:30,640 --> 00:41:33,080
Speaker 2: probably not going to have Isaiah Pacheco back from this one,

836
00:41:33,160 --> 00:41:35,759
Speaker 2: so they're you know, parceling out the running game to

837
00:41:35,920 --> 00:41:39,640
Speaker 2: Clyde Edwards Hilaire and Jerck McKinnon. And the Raiders have

838
00:41:39,719 --> 00:41:41,640
Speaker 2: been playing really hard for Antonio Pierre.

839
00:41:41,719 --> 00:41:42,919
Speaker 3: So I can't lay ten.

840
00:41:43,520 --> 00:41:46,720
Speaker 2: But I'm not betting the Raiders with their tortured recent

841
00:41:46,880 --> 00:41:48,120
Speaker 2: history against the Chiefs.

842
00:41:49,320 --> 00:41:53,080
Speaker 1: All right, the middle game here, four thirty Eastern New York, Philadelphia.

843
00:41:53,120 --> 00:41:55,680
Speaker 1: So you get the Giants and Eagles. Eagles right now

844
00:41:55,760 --> 00:41:57,839
Speaker 1: minus ten and a half favorites at home forty three

845
00:41:57,840 --> 00:42:00,640
Speaker 1: and a half is the number plus four hundred if

846
00:42:00,640 --> 00:42:04,280
Speaker 1: you like the cutlets upset. Look, you know, the Eagles

847
00:42:04,280 --> 00:42:07,279
Speaker 1: are I think, still a very superior team, no matter

848
00:42:07,320 --> 00:42:09,640
Speaker 1: what people are saying about them currently. We'll see what

849
00:42:09,640 --> 00:42:12,440
Speaker 1: happens with them against Seattle tonight. No, they have problem

850
00:42:12,440 --> 00:42:15,560
Speaker 1: in the secondary. But look, the Giants, you know, kind

851
00:42:15,560 --> 00:42:19,040
Speaker 1: of got checked this past weekend by the Saints going

852
00:42:19,080 --> 00:42:21,319
Speaker 1: on the road to Philadelphia. That doesn't seem like a

853
00:42:21,320 --> 00:42:23,560
Speaker 1: good day at the office for the Giants.

854
00:42:23,920 --> 00:42:27,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, Joe, I mean like, I saw this line and

855
00:42:27,320 --> 00:42:29,439
Speaker 2: I went through a mental checklist of what I might

856
00:42:29,480 --> 00:42:31,960
Speaker 2: be missing. I spent ten minutes like, why is this

857
00:42:32,040 --> 00:42:36,080
Speaker 2: line not higher? Maybe it's because of the ambiguity with

858
00:42:36,239 --> 00:42:38,440
Speaker 2: Jalen Hurts status for this week.

859
00:42:39,160 --> 00:42:40,319
Speaker 3: I think that has something to do.

860
00:42:40,360 --> 00:42:42,480
Speaker 2: But even if he misses this week, I would imagine

861
00:42:42,480 --> 00:42:43,520
Speaker 2: he's back next week.

862
00:42:43,640 --> 00:42:46,600
Speaker 3: So I don't know it, just it seems.

863
00:42:46,280 --> 00:42:49,320
Speaker 2: Like there is value at the Eagles, just the vastly

864
00:42:49,480 --> 00:42:51,480
Speaker 2: superior team in this matchup.

865
00:42:52,239 --> 00:42:55,520
Speaker 1: All right, Sam, vastly superior Eagles. Is that confidence enough

866
00:42:55,520 --> 00:42:56,560
Speaker 1: for you to go ten and a half?

867
00:42:59,040 --> 00:43:03,040
Speaker 4: No, it's not. The One thing I'm going to bet

868
00:43:03,080 --> 00:43:07,279
Speaker 4: on is Boston Scott anytime touchdown. This man is the

869
00:43:07,320 --> 00:43:10,399
Speaker 4: Giant killer. He scores a touchdown almost every single time

870
00:43:10,400 --> 00:43:13,200
Speaker 4: that they play the Giants. That that's my one bet

871
00:43:13,280 --> 00:43:17,360
Speaker 4: for this game. They're a little stocking Christmas money on.

872
00:43:18,120 --> 00:43:20,760
Speaker 2: He's had like two carries in the last five weeks,

873
00:43:20,760 --> 00:43:22,040
Speaker 2: so that's a pretty bold bet.

874
00:43:22,080 --> 00:43:24,520
Speaker 4: But hey, you know how many carries you need to

875
00:43:24,520 --> 00:43:29,160
Speaker 4: get a single touchdown? One? All right?

876
00:43:29,239 --> 00:43:31,359
Speaker 1: Last one here? This is I mean, some people calling

877
00:43:31,360 --> 00:43:33,960
Speaker 1: this a Super Bowl preview, I don't know. I mean,

878
00:43:34,040 --> 00:43:37,640
Speaker 1: Baltimore Ravens might be eleven to three, but they bother me.

879
00:43:37,760 --> 00:43:41,239
Speaker 1: I don't have elite level confidence in the Ravens. They're

880
00:43:41,280 --> 00:43:43,719
Speaker 1: going to San Fran was also eleven and three. The

881
00:43:43,880 --> 00:43:46,640
Speaker 1: san fran Is five and a half point favorites. Forty

882
00:43:46,680 --> 00:43:48,560
Speaker 1: five is the number for this one plus one eighty

883
00:43:48,560 --> 00:43:51,120
Speaker 1: on the Baltimore side. Sam, I'm gonna keep this simple.

884
00:43:51,239 --> 00:43:52,640
Speaker 1: I think you lock in San Fran now in the

885
00:43:52,640 --> 00:43:54,000
Speaker 1: five and a half. I think San Franz is a

886
00:43:54,000 --> 00:43:56,880
Speaker 1: superior team. Like I said, to everybody, not just the

887
00:43:57,000 --> 00:43:59,880
Speaker 1: NFC teams, the AFC teams especially, but the rest of

888
00:43:59,880 --> 00:44:02,120
Speaker 1: the NFL. They just feel like a team that is

889
00:44:03,120 --> 00:44:05,680
Speaker 1: just locked in right now. That pass rush has changed

890
00:44:05,760 --> 00:44:08,200
Speaker 1: the whole configuration of this defense that was struggling a

891
00:44:08,200 --> 00:44:10,279
Speaker 1: little bit in the earlier part of the year and

892
00:44:10,320 --> 00:44:12,239
Speaker 1: making up for maybe some of the things they're lacking

893
00:44:12,280 --> 00:44:14,279
Speaker 1: in the secondary. I don't know, man, I don't know

894
00:44:14,320 --> 00:44:18,520
Speaker 1: how you stop this incredible offense of the San Francisco

895
00:44:18,560 --> 00:44:20,160
Speaker 1: forty nine or so. I like this five and a half.

896
00:44:20,200 --> 00:44:20,960
Speaker 1: To me, it's not enough.

897
00:44:20,960 --> 00:44:25,200
Speaker 4: Sam, Yeah, this one was tough. I didn't realize this

898
00:44:25,239 --> 00:44:28,200
Speaker 4: got out to five and a half already. I think

899
00:44:28,239 --> 00:44:31,440
Speaker 4: I much preferred at four and a half. I think

900
00:44:31,880 --> 00:44:35,160
Speaker 4: if you like the Ravens, then the money line is

901
00:44:35,200 --> 00:44:38,840
Speaker 4: the bad. Again. I've mentioned a couple times Lamar Jackson's

902
00:44:38,880 --> 00:44:43,319
Speaker 4: performance against NFC teams. The forty nine ers secondary is

903
00:44:43,360 --> 00:44:47,239
Speaker 4: still a little banged up, and I mean some of

904
00:44:47,280 --> 00:44:51,759
Speaker 4: the plays that Lamar Jackson is making are just incredible.

905
00:44:51,800 --> 00:44:56,120
Speaker 4: I mean, he's keeping that team alive. Some of their

906
00:44:56,160 --> 00:45:00,239
Speaker 4: defensive playmakers that they have are playing really well. Van

907
00:45:00,280 --> 00:45:04,880
Speaker 4: Clowney having a solid season, So I think again, if

908
00:45:04,880 --> 00:45:07,640
Speaker 4: you're on the forty nine ers that I wouldn't take

909
00:45:07,680 --> 00:45:10,640
Speaker 4: it past five and a half. If it gets out

910
00:45:10,680 --> 00:45:14,600
Speaker 4: to six, I'm probably not touching. But Baltimore, if you

911
00:45:14,640 --> 00:45:17,120
Speaker 4: do like them, then taking them on the money line

912
00:45:17,200 --> 00:45:19,200
Speaker 4: to win outright is the way to go.

913
00:45:20,200 --> 00:45:22,600
Speaker 1: Pat. Maybe I'm crazy. Sam is probably the voice of

914
00:45:22,640 --> 00:45:27,040
Speaker 1: reason here. I am a little bit more in the oh,

915
00:45:27,080 --> 00:45:30,680
Speaker 1: how would you say it? Bold? Bold? Maybe is the

916
00:45:30,680 --> 00:45:32,440
Speaker 1: word for it. I think sanfred is gonna win this

917
00:45:32,440 --> 00:45:35,720
Speaker 1: game by double digits. Like I'm taking alternate spreads. I'm

918
00:45:35,800 --> 00:45:37,680
Speaker 1: looking for San Fran to crush them at home. This

919
00:45:37,719 --> 00:45:40,040
Speaker 1: is in Baltimore. Maybe I have a different set of circumstances,

920
00:45:40,320 --> 00:45:41,799
Speaker 1: but I don't know, man, I do not have faith

921
00:45:41,800 --> 00:45:42,400
Speaker 1: in Baltimore.

922
00:45:42,719 --> 00:45:44,560
Speaker 2: So if I'm going to be a contrarian, Joe, I'm

923
00:45:44,600 --> 00:45:48,319
Speaker 2: going to you know, underscore the point that Sam made

924
00:45:48,320 --> 00:45:51,480
Speaker 2: about how well Lamar Jackson is historically done against the

925
00:45:51,600 --> 00:45:54,239
Speaker 2: NFC teams he faces, who are not used to seeing

926
00:45:54,320 --> 00:45:56,399
Speaker 2: him on a regular basis and have a hard time

927
00:45:57,080 --> 00:46:01,200
Speaker 2: handling his style of play, which is truly unique. And

928
00:46:01,480 --> 00:46:04,280
Speaker 2: like also the fact that uh you know, the Ravens

929
00:46:04,280 --> 00:46:07,000
Speaker 2: are a really good team, and I just I don't

930
00:46:07,080 --> 00:46:10,000
Speaker 2: like laying that many points to a team as good

931
00:46:10,000 --> 00:46:10,720
Speaker 2: as the Ravens.

932
00:46:11,280 --> 00:46:13,200
Speaker 3: But Joe, I hear you, man like Evan's.

933
00:46:12,880 --> 00:46:14,680
Speaker 1: A really good team, Pat, or are they just a

934
00:46:14,680 --> 00:46:16,759
Speaker 1: good team compared to the rest of the AFC, which

935
00:46:16,760 --> 00:46:17,640
Speaker 1: is a little mid.

936
00:46:17,840 --> 00:46:19,680
Speaker 2: I think, to be honest, I think they're a pretty

937
00:46:19,680 --> 00:46:21,840
Speaker 2: good team. Like there, I would stop short of calling

938
00:46:21,840 --> 00:46:23,800
Speaker 2: them a great team, but they're a good team. The

939
00:46:23,840 --> 00:46:27,080
Speaker 2: other thing is, Joe, let's remember that the forty nine

940
00:46:27,120 --> 00:46:29,560
Speaker 2: Ers did have a three game losing streak, so this

941
00:46:29,680 --> 00:46:33,040
Speaker 2: is not an invincible team. They are hitting on all

942
00:46:33,120 --> 00:46:36,200
Speaker 2: cylinders right now. They are just totally cooking. And I

943
00:46:36,280 --> 00:46:39,200
Speaker 2: understand I'm not betting against the forty nine ers right now,

944
00:46:39,719 --> 00:46:41,600
Speaker 2: but I also don't want to lay five, five and

945
00:46:41,600 --> 00:46:42,800
Speaker 2: a half points to the Ravens.

946
00:46:42,800 --> 00:46:45,160
Speaker 3: So I'm gonna I'm gonna stay away from this one.

947
00:46:45,800 --> 00:46:48,920
Speaker 1: All right. I will be on my island right off

948
00:46:48,960 --> 00:46:52,520
Speaker 1: the coast of northern California, sipping the wine and eating

949
00:46:52,560 --> 00:46:54,440
Speaker 1: the cheese. That is the forty nine Ers. Ive already

950
00:46:54,440 --> 00:46:55,759
Speaker 1: bet them to win the Super Bowl. I've bet them

951
00:46:55,840 --> 00:46:57,440
Speaker 1: win the NFC. I cash out a couple of weeks

952
00:46:57,440 --> 00:46:59,680
Speaker 1: ago the Eagles bets that I had, which was great

953
00:46:59,680 --> 00:47:02,680
Speaker 1: because I still got my money back there and I

954
00:47:02,800 --> 00:47:05,000
Speaker 1: have chosen a new ship. It's the forty nine ers.

955
00:47:05,040 --> 00:47:06,640
Speaker 1: All I wanted them to do was go and prove

956
00:47:06,680 --> 00:47:08,640
Speaker 1: to me that they could beat the Eagles. They prove

957
00:47:08,760 --> 00:47:11,960
Speaker 1: that and it's been no looking back ever since. So

958
00:47:12,160 --> 00:47:14,239
Speaker 1: give me Sam for a lot of games, a lot

959
00:47:14,239 --> 00:47:16,839
Speaker 1: of fun holiday games to get too. Also, don't forget

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00:47:16,920 --> 00:47:19,080
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Speaker 1: That'll do it for us. But the story of the

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Speaker 1: game goes on for Sam and Pat. I'm Joey P.

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