1 00:00:00,760 --> 00:00:03,800 Speaker 1: This is the Benn and Ashley I Almost Famous podcast 2 00:00:03,840 --> 00:00:08,000 Speaker 1: with i R Radio. Yeah. So I love being a 3 00:00:08,039 --> 00:00:13,920 Speaker 1: puppy dad, Claire. But he's into everything he is. Um. 4 00:00:14,080 --> 00:00:15,760 Speaker 1: He's getting better. He was like into this kind of 5 00:00:15,800 --> 00:00:20,040 Speaker 1: like biting every time we wanted to play stage. UM. 6 00:00:20,120 --> 00:00:23,680 Speaker 1: And he's just like he has no regard for anything 7 00:00:23,720 --> 00:00:28,400 Speaker 1: of mine, Like everything is being moved at all times, um, 8 00:00:28,400 --> 00:00:30,720 Speaker 1: like right now. It is one of the hardest things 9 00:00:30,840 --> 00:00:33,960 Speaker 1: ever to be a puppy parents for sure. I don't Yeah, 10 00:00:34,080 --> 00:00:37,080 Speaker 1: I I believe it. Jessica, you know, is an esthetician. 11 00:00:37,159 --> 00:00:39,720 Speaker 1: So she has like her um what I don't know 12 00:00:39,800 --> 00:00:41,720 Speaker 1: is it called like a spa or salon or whatever 13 00:00:42,240 --> 00:00:46,240 Speaker 1: um down in Denver, And so she has to bring 14 00:00:46,320 --> 00:00:49,000 Speaker 1: him with her some days. And I can't imagine because 15 00:00:49,000 --> 00:00:50,839 Speaker 1: she's like trying to give a facial and he's just 16 00:00:51,479 --> 00:00:58,440 Speaker 1: gnawing at her feet. It is so ridiculous, Claire, I'm 17 00:00:58,440 --> 00:01:03,000 Speaker 1: telling you, UM. But I do love him, and he 18 00:01:03,160 --> 00:01:06,720 Speaker 1: is sweet and he like makes up for his rowdiness 19 00:01:06,760 --> 00:01:08,959 Speaker 1: by like the evening times when he wants to cuddle 20 00:01:09,640 --> 00:01:11,600 Speaker 1: and he just looks at you like with these eyes 21 00:01:11,600 --> 00:01:13,400 Speaker 1: that are just like gosh, dang it, dude, I can't 22 00:01:13,440 --> 00:01:15,840 Speaker 1: be mad at you for that long. Oh. I know 23 00:01:16,040 --> 00:01:17,600 Speaker 1: it'll pay off in the long run, though, Ben, I 24 00:01:17,640 --> 00:01:21,640 Speaker 1: promise hanging there off all right? I sure hope so. 25 00:01:21,840 --> 00:01:24,240 Speaker 1: Um right now as I'm talking to you though, and 26 00:01:24,319 --> 00:01:27,120 Speaker 1: before we get started, he is sorry I'm reaching over 27 00:01:27,120 --> 00:01:30,880 Speaker 1: here because he is chewing up a nine from this 28 00:01:30,959 --> 00:01:35,319 Speaker 1: last year, which is perfect. That's just great. Yeah, it's great. 29 00:01:35,560 --> 00:01:39,000 Speaker 1: You're you're the best. Hey, Claire, enough about me, let's 30 00:01:39,040 --> 00:01:41,119 Speaker 1: talk about you. You're gonna be co hosting with me today. 31 00:01:41,160 --> 00:01:43,160 Speaker 1: I'm super pumped for it. But let's just start this 32 00:01:43,200 --> 00:01:46,360 Speaker 1: out by kind of catching everybody up on your life. Uh, 33 00:01:46,480 --> 00:01:49,240 Speaker 1: how is life going? What are you up to tell 34 00:01:49,280 --> 00:01:53,000 Speaker 1: all the listeners? Life is going well? First all, thank 35 00:01:53,000 --> 00:01:55,040 Speaker 1: you so much for having me co host on here. 36 00:01:55,080 --> 00:01:57,920 Speaker 1: I'm excited to be doing it and excited that Ashley 37 00:01:58,080 --> 00:02:01,640 Speaker 1: and Jared had their baby, like I could not be 38 00:02:01,680 --> 00:02:04,840 Speaker 1: more excited for them, so happily to take this position 39 00:02:05,360 --> 00:02:09,880 Speaker 1: for her today. But what about life has been wonderful 40 00:02:10,000 --> 00:02:13,400 Speaker 1: and crazy and up and down and all the above, 41 00:02:13,560 --> 00:02:18,880 Speaker 1: but mostly amazing. What has been involved in the amazing 42 00:02:19,000 --> 00:02:22,399 Speaker 1: or what's been involved in the ups and downs? Um? 43 00:02:22,600 --> 00:02:25,600 Speaker 1: So let's go peaks and valleys, I would say the peaks. 44 00:02:26,440 --> 00:02:31,400 Speaker 1: Over the last year, I've shared along my journey of 45 00:02:31,400 --> 00:02:33,919 Speaker 1: getting my breast implants out, and that was a big 46 00:02:33,960 --> 00:02:36,799 Speaker 1: part of my life. And I think not a lot 47 00:02:36,800 --> 00:02:40,440 Speaker 1: of people um talk about it or it's kind of 48 00:02:40,480 --> 00:02:43,600 Speaker 1: like an uncomfortable thing because it's your breasts, but in 49 00:02:43,639 --> 00:02:47,160 Speaker 1: its classic surgery. But it was something that was impacting 50 00:02:47,200 --> 00:02:51,360 Speaker 1: my life tremendously that I hid for so long for 51 00:02:51,440 --> 00:02:55,480 Speaker 1: a few years. And since I got them out last July, 52 00:02:56,040 --> 00:03:00,320 Speaker 1: um it was July thirty one, life has just gotten 53 00:03:00,320 --> 00:03:03,880 Speaker 1: better and better and better and more healing in more 54 00:03:03,919 --> 00:03:05,800 Speaker 1: ways than I can even describe. So it's been a 55 00:03:05,840 --> 00:03:08,760 Speaker 1: big part of my life lately. What kind of led 56 00:03:08,800 --> 00:03:11,880 Speaker 1: to that? Were you sick? Were you having moved? Like? 57 00:03:12,000 --> 00:03:15,119 Speaker 1: Was it emotionals? Like? What was going on? Yeah? There 58 00:03:15,280 --> 00:03:20,480 Speaker 1: there was a bunch of stuff that individually over the years, 59 00:03:20,480 --> 00:03:22,720 Speaker 1: Like it started about a year after I got my implants. 60 00:03:22,800 --> 00:03:26,160 Speaker 1: I started I started actually taking pictures of these really 61 00:03:26,160 --> 00:03:28,760 Speaker 1: bad rashes that I was getting on my arms and 62 00:03:28,800 --> 00:03:31,560 Speaker 1: on um all at my arms and on my shoulders 63 00:03:32,000 --> 00:03:36,440 Speaker 1: and on my stomach and anything and everything I did, 64 00:03:37,400 --> 00:03:41,560 Speaker 1: no matter what medication, no matter what antibiotic no matter diet, change, exercise, 65 00:03:41,680 --> 00:03:46,120 Speaker 1: anything I could do I did and didn't help the 66 00:03:46,200 --> 00:03:48,720 Speaker 1: rashes and everything. So I started documenting all that, which 67 00:03:48,720 --> 00:03:51,920 Speaker 1: was crazy, and I'm a very very healthy, health conscious person, 68 00:03:51,960 --> 00:03:54,040 Speaker 1: so it was it was a crazy thing to kind 69 00:03:54,040 --> 00:03:56,840 Speaker 1: of go through that. But then it started to kind 70 00:03:56,840 --> 00:04:01,480 Speaker 1: of like the more that time went on, the more like, um, 71 00:04:01,520 --> 00:04:04,600 Speaker 1: I could tell I would feel hungover every single day 72 00:04:04,840 --> 00:04:07,640 Speaker 1: and I don't even drink, so for me, I would 73 00:04:07,680 --> 00:04:09,880 Speaker 1: sleep nine hours a night and just be exhausted. I 74 00:04:09,920 --> 00:04:12,120 Speaker 1: had super dark circles under my eyes, and I was 75 00:04:12,160 --> 00:04:17,080 Speaker 1: getting sicker and sicker and sicker with no answers why um. 76 00:04:17,240 --> 00:04:20,520 Speaker 1: And like I said, I'm a very healthy person. So 77 00:04:20,560 --> 00:04:22,680 Speaker 1: I just couldn't make sense of it for the longest time. 78 00:04:22,720 --> 00:04:28,479 Speaker 1: And I realized, looking back now how little energy I 79 00:04:28,560 --> 00:04:32,680 Speaker 1: had that if I'm being honest, like I was already 80 00:04:32,720 --> 00:04:36,520 Speaker 1: depleting myself pouring my heart into my relationship, pouring my 81 00:04:36,560 --> 00:04:39,159 Speaker 1: heart into helping take care of my mom, that I 82 00:04:39,440 --> 00:04:42,479 Speaker 1: was just depleted on my own energy levels as well 83 00:04:42,520 --> 00:04:44,679 Speaker 1: for my own healings. So it was just getting sicker 84 00:04:44,680 --> 00:04:49,159 Speaker 1: and sicker, not being able to kind of like help myself. Um, 85 00:04:49,200 --> 00:04:52,279 Speaker 1: and I didn't realize this, but the whites of my 86 00:04:52,360 --> 00:04:57,160 Speaker 1: eyes were getting gray, which is a significant sign for 87 00:04:57,240 --> 00:05:01,120 Speaker 1: like liver toxicity. UM and that's kind of what triggered 88 00:05:01,320 --> 00:05:04,919 Speaker 1: my doctor to go maybe this is something to do 89 00:05:05,000 --> 00:05:07,240 Speaker 1: with like heavy metals in your body, which led to 90 00:05:08,040 --> 00:05:10,520 Speaker 1: implant casing. I can tell you're so excited about this 91 00:05:10,600 --> 00:05:13,880 Speaker 1: right now. I'm so, I am sorry, I'm I'm listening. 92 00:05:14,000 --> 00:05:16,440 Speaker 1: I heard about implant casing. I'm trying to make sure 93 00:05:16,480 --> 00:05:21,440 Speaker 1: that my dog doesn't chew a no electrical wire that's 94 00:05:21,440 --> 00:05:24,200 Speaker 1: plugged into the wall right now. So I'm listening and 95 00:05:24,240 --> 00:05:27,840 Speaker 1: I'm parenting. So yes, please please forgive me. I feel 96 00:05:27,839 --> 00:05:30,159 Speaker 1: like you need to also, this is great training for 97 00:05:30,600 --> 00:05:34,360 Speaker 1: a future child. Maybe that you have to start multitasking 98 00:05:34,400 --> 00:05:41,240 Speaker 1: on so many levels you don't even understand. Trust me, Yes, yes, multitask. 99 00:05:41,360 --> 00:05:43,719 Speaker 1: I'm here, I'm very present. I'm just making sure that 100 00:05:43,760 --> 00:05:46,640 Speaker 1: my puppy one doesn't hurt himself or two doesn't hurt 101 00:05:46,680 --> 00:05:51,479 Speaker 1: something I cared deeply about right now. Understandable on all levels. 102 00:05:51,560 --> 00:05:54,000 Speaker 1: So I was just just riff and giving me crops, 103 00:05:55,080 --> 00:05:57,320 Speaker 1: so okay, But yeah, it was just started. It was 104 00:05:57,680 --> 00:06:00,479 Speaker 1: a major decline in my health and when I'm a 105 00:06:00,600 --> 00:06:03,800 Speaker 1: very healthy woman. And so anyway, that's that's the gist 106 00:06:03,839 --> 00:06:07,000 Speaker 1: of that. I got him out and then I didn't realize, 107 00:06:07,040 --> 00:06:10,560 Speaker 1: like I said, how sick I was until I began healing. 108 00:06:11,200 --> 00:06:14,080 Speaker 1: And that was the only constant that was taken out 109 00:06:14,160 --> 00:06:16,200 Speaker 1: of my life, and I kept everything else. To say, 110 00:06:16,279 --> 00:06:18,720 Speaker 1: My workouts were the same, my diets were the same 111 00:06:18,800 --> 00:06:22,960 Speaker 1: after my surgery, and it's just like life has in 112 00:06:23,080 --> 00:06:27,719 Speaker 1: healing has just gotten better and better and better for me. Um. 113 00:06:27,720 --> 00:06:30,000 Speaker 1: Without that, my energy levels are out the roof without 114 00:06:30,000 --> 00:06:34,279 Speaker 1: even me knowing. You're trying, you know, I'm imagining to 115 00:06:34,400 --> 00:06:36,600 Speaker 1: tell me if I'm wrong, but from a distance from 116 00:06:36,640 --> 00:06:40,280 Speaker 1: a fan watching from the outside looking in. UH, this 117 00:06:40,360 --> 00:06:43,120 Speaker 1: last year probably like healing has been a huge part 118 00:06:43,120 --> 00:06:46,920 Speaker 1: of it in multiple ways, UM, and so feeling good 119 00:06:48,600 --> 00:06:50,919 Speaker 1: is like it's a necessity. So how much of this 120 00:06:51,080 --> 00:06:54,599 Speaker 1: really do you a credit to? Uh? Getting your breast 121 00:06:54,640 --> 00:06:59,440 Speaker 1: implants removed and also just you know, leaving a relationships, 122 00:06:59,680 --> 00:07:03,719 Speaker 1: getting back into the world, exploring again. I think it 123 00:07:03,800 --> 00:07:07,640 Speaker 1: all plays in when you have positive in your in 124 00:07:07,640 --> 00:07:12,920 Speaker 1: your life and supportive people in your life, UM, it 125 00:07:13,000 --> 00:07:15,040 Speaker 1: helps with your healing. You don't feel so alone, and 126 00:07:15,080 --> 00:07:17,560 Speaker 1: it definitely goes a lot into play when you're not 127 00:07:18,000 --> 00:07:21,360 Speaker 1: pouring yourself into something that isn't pouring back into you. 128 00:07:21,360 --> 00:07:25,720 Speaker 1: You know, it is very deepleating. So having just not 129 00:07:25,840 --> 00:07:27,680 Speaker 1: to have to do that and to have all my 130 00:07:27,800 --> 00:07:30,800 Speaker 1: energy be able to be focused on my own healing 131 00:07:30,880 --> 00:07:36,239 Speaker 1: has been honestly one of the greatest things I guess 132 00:07:36,280 --> 00:07:39,080 Speaker 1: for myself, you know, and it was in such a 133 00:07:39,080 --> 00:07:43,680 Speaker 1: crappy way, but I think somehow the universe knew that 134 00:07:44,160 --> 00:07:48,360 Speaker 1: I needed that in order to you so well, first off, 135 00:07:48,400 --> 00:07:52,640 Speaker 1: that's incredible. I'm really glad personally that you know, this 136 00:07:52,720 --> 00:07:55,680 Speaker 1: was something you did. Uh. You know, it's it's not 137 00:07:55,720 --> 00:07:58,240 Speaker 1: fun to feel bad, and then it's not fun to 138 00:07:58,280 --> 00:08:01,440 Speaker 1: feel bad always. And I mean I saw I think 139 00:08:01,440 --> 00:08:03,880 Speaker 1: it was he last week you posted like a video 140 00:08:05,400 --> 00:08:09,880 Speaker 1: um and like you had spots, Uh, you had like inflammation, 141 00:08:10,600 --> 00:08:15,840 Speaker 1: um your eyes definitely, Yeah, you definitely had discoloration, like 142 00:08:15,960 --> 00:08:18,320 Speaker 1: And so now to see you like thriving again is 143 00:08:18,360 --> 00:08:20,960 Speaker 1: such a good thing to watch from an outsider's perspective. 144 00:08:21,600 --> 00:08:24,000 Speaker 1: So now you're back into the world. We've obviously you know, 145 00:08:24,040 --> 00:08:25,880 Speaker 1: everybody in Batchel Nation wants to know. And before we 146 00:08:25,920 --> 00:08:28,480 Speaker 1: get started breaking down this week's episode. Uh, and we 147 00:08:28,520 --> 00:08:30,960 Speaker 1: are going to break down this week's episode of Clayton's 148 00:08:31,000 --> 00:08:34,640 Speaker 1: season of The Bachelor. Are you ready to start dating again? Like? 149 00:08:34,679 --> 00:08:38,240 Speaker 1: Do you have closure enough with the show and with 150 00:08:38,320 --> 00:08:43,679 Speaker 1: past relationship to get back out there? Um? I would 151 00:08:43,679 --> 00:08:51,079 Speaker 1: say that I'm definitely, definitely healing in the best way possible. Um. 152 00:08:51,120 --> 00:08:53,080 Speaker 1: There was a lot of things that happened, I guess 153 00:08:53,880 --> 00:08:57,839 Speaker 1: within the last year, especially within my relationship, that were 154 00:08:58,760 --> 00:09:01,840 Speaker 1: the behind the scenes stuff that I probably I don't 155 00:09:01,880 --> 00:09:04,000 Speaker 1: know when I'll share it or be ready to share, 156 00:09:04,080 --> 00:09:09,200 Speaker 1: but that we're really difficult that nobody knows about and 157 00:09:09,240 --> 00:09:12,320 Speaker 1: that we're private, you know, um, in my within my relationship, 158 00:09:12,440 --> 00:09:17,400 Speaker 1: but that has taken it took a big toll on me, 159 00:09:17,480 --> 00:09:26,040 Speaker 1: I guess, Um with believing in myself and UM, I 160 00:09:26,120 --> 00:09:29,640 Speaker 1: guess you know they always say and like, the hardest 161 00:09:29,640 --> 00:09:32,600 Speaker 1: relationship isn't the toxic one, it's the one right after 162 00:09:32,640 --> 00:09:35,959 Speaker 1: your toxic one, because you have to relearn to trust 163 00:09:36,720 --> 00:09:39,720 Speaker 1: your own gut instincts that were undermined and gas lit 164 00:09:39,800 --> 00:09:43,000 Speaker 1: and told that you were crazy and wrong and crazy, 165 00:09:43,040 --> 00:09:45,680 Speaker 1: I guess. And so the one right after that or 166 00:09:45,720 --> 00:09:48,679 Speaker 1: the healing right after that is kind of the hardest 167 00:09:48,679 --> 00:09:50,960 Speaker 1: part of the whole thing, to be honest, because I 168 00:09:51,000 --> 00:09:56,200 Speaker 1: had I'm still learning to trust my gut again, know 169 00:09:56,880 --> 00:10:01,560 Speaker 1: the signs, the red flags that I was discredited for. Like, 170 00:10:01,600 --> 00:10:05,760 Speaker 1: I'm just relearning everything. So I am doing that. It's 171 00:10:06,400 --> 00:10:08,559 Speaker 1: baby step in it and I don't to be honest then, 172 00:10:08,600 --> 00:10:11,320 Speaker 1: like I don't feel a rush for it. I'm more 173 00:10:11,360 --> 00:10:14,199 Speaker 1: focused on my own healing right now and taking care 174 00:10:14,200 --> 00:10:16,840 Speaker 1: of my mom and making sure that she's okay and 175 00:10:17,080 --> 00:10:21,400 Speaker 1: um comfortable. So that's that's really where my focus is. 176 00:10:21,960 --> 00:10:32,360 Speaker 1: How is she doing? Um, honestly not the greatest right now. Um, 177 00:10:32,400 --> 00:10:36,440 Speaker 1: she had COVID. She got diagnosed with COVID last Thursday, 178 00:10:37,080 --> 00:10:40,400 Speaker 1: So as somebody who's already kind of she's on hospice 179 00:10:40,440 --> 00:10:43,200 Speaker 1: already and so it was just another big dip in 180 00:10:43,320 --> 00:10:47,840 Speaker 1: her in her health. Um so it's been a little 181 00:10:47,840 --> 00:10:51,319 Speaker 1: bit of a challenge. And I'm my sisters all have children, 182 00:10:51,360 --> 00:10:55,080 Speaker 1: and um so I think I was the one that 183 00:10:55,080 --> 00:10:56,959 Speaker 1: could go that's been able to go in there, and 184 00:10:57,480 --> 00:10:59,079 Speaker 1: I guess how the honor of being able to take 185 00:10:59,120 --> 00:11:01,920 Speaker 1: care of her while she is going through this, but 186 00:11:02,360 --> 00:11:04,320 Speaker 1: I don't know, it's it's a challenging thing. You don't 187 00:11:04,320 --> 00:11:06,360 Speaker 1: really want to be around COVID and I'm, of all people, 188 00:11:06,360 --> 00:11:10,080 Speaker 1: I'm a germophobe. But my mom take care of me 189 00:11:10,160 --> 00:11:12,120 Speaker 1: my whole life, and to least I can do for her, 190 00:11:12,160 --> 00:11:17,199 Speaker 1: you know, thank you for asking. Yeah, well, um, we're 191 00:11:17,200 --> 00:11:19,680 Speaker 1: thinking about you, and you know, anybody listening, I hope 192 00:11:19,920 --> 00:11:22,040 Speaker 1: they show their support to you. It's it is a 193 00:11:22,040 --> 00:11:25,880 Speaker 1: tough time. There's no questions about it. And it's good 194 00:11:25,920 --> 00:11:28,840 Speaker 1: to say it's a tough time. Um, But then yeah, 195 00:11:28,960 --> 00:11:30,800 Speaker 1: it's it's a weird time for you because then you 196 00:11:30,840 --> 00:11:33,959 Speaker 1: have these amazing things happening and you and you have 197 00:11:34,040 --> 00:11:36,520 Speaker 1: this whole new chapter in front of you, and that's 198 00:11:36,559 --> 00:11:39,360 Speaker 1: something to be thankful for. But I get it now 199 00:11:39,360 --> 00:11:41,120 Speaker 1: when you said they there speaks and valleys right now, 200 00:11:41,280 --> 00:11:44,600 Speaker 1: I get it. It makes sense. Yeah, and I'm learning. 201 00:11:44,880 --> 00:11:47,120 Speaker 1: When I talked to have an amazing therapist, and when 202 00:11:47,120 --> 00:11:49,959 Speaker 1: I talked to her, she says, there's always this thing 203 00:11:50,040 --> 00:11:53,199 Speaker 1: with um, you can it can be two things at once. 204 00:11:53,760 --> 00:11:57,280 Speaker 1: I can be going through one of the undoubtedly hardest 205 00:11:57,280 --> 00:12:00,280 Speaker 1: times in my life right now, but also have some 206 00:12:00,400 --> 00:12:03,800 Speaker 1: really amazing moments and be thriving as well, and on 207 00:12:03,880 --> 00:12:06,600 Speaker 1: a path of thriving for my own personal health. So 208 00:12:07,160 --> 00:12:10,559 Speaker 1: they both can exist coexisting one and that that's proof 209 00:12:10,600 --> 00:12:13,800 Speaker 1: of it, I guess. Well from all of us here 210 00:12:14,320 --> 00:12:18,800 Speaker 1: before we jump into the breakdown, UM, we we continue 211 00:12:18,800 --> 00:12:23,120 Speaker 1: to wish for healing for you, you know, romantically. Um, 212 00:12:23,160 --> 00:12:24,839 Speaker 1: you know, when it comes to new relationships. You made 213 00:12:24,840 --> 00:12:26,319 Speaker 1: a great point and so many people are going to 214 00:12:26,400 --> 00:12:29,280 Speaker 1: hear that and just completely lash onto it that you know, 215 00:12:29,320 --> 00:12:31,640 Speaker 1: the hardest relationship is often the one that's after the 216 00:12:31,679 --> 00:12:34,120 Speaker 1: one that hurt you the most because you have to 217 00:12:34,200 --> 00:12:37,439 Speaker 1: unlearn things. And I get that. Someone listening get that, 218 00:12:38,200 --> 00:12:40,760 Speaker 1: and uh, but there is I mean, there's so much 219 00:12:40,800 --> 00:12:43,440 Speaker 1: beauty two when you can look back on that pain 220 00:12:43,480 --> 00:12:45,520 Speaker 1: and be like, oh no, like I made it through 221 00:12:45,520 --> 00:12:48,120 Speaker 1: and I'm better for it. Um. So yeah, we just 222 00:12:48,200 --> 00:12:50,120 Speaker 1: we wish healing for you, and we also be thinking 223 00:12:50,120 --> 00:12:53,280 Speaker 1: about your mother. Claire again, thank you for co hosting 224 00:12:53,320 --> 00:12:54,800 Speaker 1: this with me. We're gonna take a quick break and 225 00:12:54,880 --> 00:12:57,240 Speaker 1: we come back. We're gonna change gears quite a bit. 226 00:12:57,440 --> 00:13:00,160 Speaker 1: We're gonna talk about Clayton as the Bachelor and this 227 00:13:00,360 --> 00:13:03,040 Speaker 1: recent episode of the Bachelor before we take a break, 228 00:13:03,040 --> 00:13:06,440 Speaker 1: clear any advice for Clayton, I feel like you could 229 00:13:06,480 --> 00:13:07,880 Speaker 1: just give it to him right now. What would be 230 00:13:07,920 --> 00:13:11,800 Speaker 1: your one advice to him? Are we talking present? Are 231 00:13:11,840 --> 00:13:18,360 Speaker 1: we talking on the show? Uh? Let's do both, because 232 00:13:18,360 --> 00:13:20,800 Speaker 1: I think there's a lot of I think actually one 233 00:13:20,800 --> 00:13:24,079 Speaker 1: and the same. Honestly, the best advice I can give 234 00:13:24,120 --> 00:13:27,760 Speaker 1: to him is stay true to who you are and 235 00:13:27,920 --> 00:13:31,080 Speaker 1: really focus on your own mental health and whatever that 236 00:13:31,160 --> 00:13:35,480 Speaker 1: takes doing, whether it be having supported your friends, having 237 00:13:35,520 --> 00:13:39,559 Speaker 1: supported a therapist, your family. Really lean into that. Because 238 00:13:39,640 --> 00:13:44,040 Speaker 1: this is a really trying time on the show, watching 239 00:13:44,040 --> 00:13:47,320 Speaker 1: it back, going through it, watching the editing. It is 240 00:13:48,600 --> 00:13:50,000 Speaker 1: not for the faith of heart to be on that 241 00:13:50,080 --> 00:13:54,120 Speaker 1: side of it, um And I think he really just 242 00:13:54,160 --> 00:13:56,640 Speaker 1: needs to focus on his mental health and focus put 243 00:13:56,640 --> 00:14:00,679 Speaker 1: a lot of energy into that because the audience, I 244 00:14:00,720 --> 00:14:04,720 Speaker 1: think can be very harsh, and I think it's just 245 00:14:04,760 --> 00:14:08,000 Speaker 1: getting harder and harder with social media through through the years. 246 00:14:08,040 --> 00:14:10,440 Speaker 1: So to really focus on himself, that's my biggest piece 247 00:14:10,480 --> 00:14:13,280 Speaker 1: of advice. Well, I hope he listens to this and 248 00:14:13,280 --> 00:14:15,040 Speaker 1: I hope he hears it. All Right, We'll be back 249 00:14:15,160 --> 00:14:29,760 Speaker 1: with Claire as the co host on the Almost Famous podcast. Alright, Claire, 250 00:14:29,920 --> 00:14:32,640 Speaker 1: I'm assuming you've watched at least a few episodes this season. 251 00:14:32,680 --> 00:14:34,560 Speaker 1: You don't have to have watched them all, but how 252 00:14:34,560 --> 00:14:37,880 Speaker 1: many have you watched this season so far? I will 253 00:14:37,920 --> 00:14:41,280 Speaker 1: be honest, this is the first season I'm actually doubling 254 00:14:41,320 --> 00:14:43,760 Speaker 1: back into because I think I had a little PTSD 255 00:14:43,840 --> 00:14:45,640 Speaker 1: for a minute. But we are back in the game. 256 00:14:45,840 --> 00:14:48,840 Speaker 1: I'm watching for sure, and I've seen I've seen the 257 00:14:48,920 --> 00:14:53,160 Speaker 1: last few episodes, so I'm ready to get into it. Okay, perfect, Well, 258 00:14:53,200 --> 00:14:56,560 Speaker 1: this this is exciting. You know we've we've I've missed 259 00:14:56,560 --> 00:14:59,560 Speaker 1: one episode this season, but I caught up through the 260 00:14:59,560 --> 00:15:01,880 Speaker 1: notes any that was two weeks ago. I'm I'm into 261 00:15:01,960 --> 00:15:04,680 Speaker 1: this season, Claire, uh, And I want to before we 262 00:15:04,960 --> 00:15:07,080 Speaker 1: dive into the episode, I want to know your thoughts. 263 00:15:07,720 --> 00:15:09,960 Speaker 1: Are you enjoying it? Like? Are you watching it because 264 00:15:10,000 --> 00:15:11,840 Speaker 1: you're having fun with it? Are you watching it because 265 00:15:11,880 --> 00:15:14,640 Speaker 1: your feel like, well, you know, you just have to 266 00:15:14,760 --> 00:15:18,120 Speaker 1: because you were the Bachelor at one point? By knowings, 267 00:15:18,200 --> 00:15:20,520 Speaker 1: I think, do we have to watch this? But I 268 00:15:20,560 --> 00:15:26,320 Speaker 1: think it's it's easy to watch because there's so much relatability. 269 00:15:27,200 --> 00:15:31,040 Speaker 1: Is after I work relatability within these episodes and with 270 00:15:31,080 --> 00:15:32,920 Speaker 1: all these women. It's kind of like that fly on 271 00:15:32,960 --> 00:15:37,760 Speaker 1: the wall of really what women go through, not necessarily 272 00:15:37,760 --> 00:15:41,400 Speaker 1: obviously everybody's not always in this position, but the things 273 00:15:41,440 --> 00:15:44,360 Speaker 1: that go through people's minds, insecurities. And I think I 274 00:15:44,480 --> 00:15:47,560 Speaker 1: actually watched because I know we all know it's edited, 275 00:15:47,600 --> 00:15:51,520 Speaker 1: we all know kind of like the strategy behind things, 276 00:15:51,600 --> 00:15:54,480 Speaker 1: and I think it's pretty transparent to see that kind 277 00:15:54,520 --> 00:15:57,520 Speaker 1: of thing, and it's it's a entertaining, entertaining thing to watch, 278 00:15:57,560 --> 00:16:00,720 Speaker 1: but you really get to see kind of the spoken things, 279 00:16:00,720 --> 00:16:03,680 Speaker 1: and that's what I look for. I see girls are 280 00:16:03,720 --> 00:16:05,760 Speaker 1: dogging each other, when girls are throwing each other under 281 00:16:05,800 --> 00:16:10,840 Speaker 1: the other under the bus, I don't know, it's it's 282 00:16:10,880 --> 00:16:13,240 Speaker 1: it says a lot about these people individually and how 283 00:16:13,320 --> 00:16:16,080 Speaker 1: much growth they have to go through, and maybe watching 284 00:16:16,120 --> 00:16:18,560 Speaker 1: it back it can help them learn this stuff. Well, 285 00:16:18,600 --> 00:16:20,360 Speaker 1: I mean, that's the question that so many people are 286 00:16:20,360 --> 00:16:24,920 Speaker 1: gonna ask, and it is typically I would say, always 287 00:16:26,640 --> 00:16:31,960 Speaker 1: uh an excuse, not always the like the absolute excuse 288 00:16:32,000 --> 00:16:34,120 Speaker 1: that covers everything. But you know, people get off the show, 289 00:16:35,040 --> 00:16:38,120 Speaker 1: they don't look great. People are criticizing them, which hurts, 290 00:16:38,840 --> 00:16:41,480 Speaker 1: and like there's that fine line between having fun with 291 00:16:41,520 --> 00:16:44,440 Speaker 1: this and and you know, nagging and watching it as 292 00:16:44,480 --> 00:16:47,080 Speaker 1: a fan and also or like trying to ruin somebody's life, 293 00:16:47,080 --> 00:16:50,680 Speaker 1: which is never okay and no matter, it's never alright. 294 00:16:50,720 --> 00:16:54,840 Speaker 1: But typically the response is oh, it's edited, right. We 295 00:16:54,920 --> 00:16:56,960 Speaker 1: hear it every season. The villain says, oh, yeah, but 296 00:16:57,080 --> 00:16:59,560 Speaker 1: but it's editing. How much you've been a part of 297 00:16:59,560 --> 00:17:04,040 Speaker 1: this show, how much of this story is edited? Because 298 00:17:04,080 --> 00:17:06,000 Speaker 1: it's hard for me as I'm watching, like, they can't 299 00:17:06,119 --> 00:17:08,960 Speaker 1: edit out her coming to the cocktail party, taking a 300 00:17:09,040 --> 00:17:13,440 Speaker 1: trophy and throwing it like she didn't need to do that, honestly. 301 00:17:13,520 --> 00:17:15,040 Speaker 1: Then this is what I was going to talk to you, 302 00:17:15,160 --> 00:17:20,320 Speaker 1: like ask you about because we all know about the editing. Obviously, 303 00:17:20,359 --> 00:17:23,760 Speaker 1: you cannot take X amount of time and cut it 304 00:17:23,800 --> 00:17:26,760 Speaker 1: into one or two hours and expected to just flow 305 00:17:26,800 --> 00:17:29,080 Speaker 1: easily to make sense. So it's going to be edited naturally. 306 00:17:29,160 --> 00:17:34,280 Speaker 1: But I'm seeing the I t m the interviews, and 307 00:17:34,480 --> 00:17:37,320 Speaker 1: I'm watching, like, I get that you can kind of 308 00:17:37,320 --> 00:17:42,000 Speaker 1: piecings together and encourage or catch somebody on a bad day. 309 00:17:42,240 --> 00:17:45,240 Speaker 1: I get that, But a lot of stuff that she's 310 00:17:45,240 --> 00:17:49,760 Speaker 1: sang is just not acceptable period, I think as a woman, 311 00:17:49,920 --> 00:17:53,919 Speaker 1: and this is there's a difference between the edited villain 312 00:17:55,680 --> 00:17:59,639 Speaker 1: and somebody who's just outright being nasty. What are your 313 00:17:59,640 --> 00:18:01,399 Speaker 1: thoughts and that? Like what do you think about that? 314 00:18:01,480 --> 00:18:04,000 Speaker 1: Like do you see are you paying attention to all 315 00:18:04,000 --> 00:18:06,320 Speaker 1: that stuff that she sang as well in the interviews. Yeah, 316 00:18:06,359 --> 00:18:08,600 Speaker 1: it's always the shocking part, right, I mean this was 317 00:18:08,720 --> 00:18:10,359 Speaker 1: the best one. This one was when she came to 318 00:18:10,400 --> 00:18:13,439 Speaker 1: the cocktail party, apologized and then very clearly like you 319 00:18:13,440 --> 00:18:17,000 Speaker 1: can't edit somebody saying I just played all these women, 320 00:18:17,359 --> 00:18:20,760 Speaker 1: Like all these women just got the best acting job 321 00:18:20,800 --> 00:18:23,199 Speaker 1: they've ever seen out of me, and now they're on 322 00:18:23,240 --> 00:18:26,360 Speaker 1: my side again, Like, I mean that stuff's not right. 323 00:18:26,480 --> 00:18:29,680 Speaker 1: And I think as a fan, again, you don't want 324 00:18:29,680 --> 00:18:31,480 Speaker 1: to crush her. She's on a show, she signed up 325 00:18:31,480 --> 00:18:33,400 Speaker 1: for show, but as a fan of like, hey, she's 326 00:18:33,440 --> 00:18:35,400 Speaker 1: not the white right one for Clayton, Like she needs 327 00:18:35,400 --> 00:18:37,399 Speaker 1: to go home, Like she needs to figure that stuff 328 00:18:37,400 --> 00:18:39,280 Speaker 1: out on her own. Now, this is not okay to 329 00:18:39,359 --> 00:18:43,400 Speaker 1: the women involved. It's not making a more fun experience. Weird. 330 00:18:43,800 --> 00:18:47,600 Speaker 1: I was in um Pebble Beach or right, I guess 331 00:18:47,680 --> 00:18:49,639 Speaker 1: Carmel by the Sea this last week with Wells and 332 00:18:49,680 --> 00:18:52,040 Speaker 1: Dean and we were talking about this. Somebody came up 333 00:18:52,040 --> 00:18:54,080 Speaker 1: and asked, like, Hey, how edited is this show, which 334 00:18:54,320 --> 00:18:56,560 Speaker 1: gets asked every time a fan of the show comes 335 00:18:56,640 --> 00:18:59,560 Speaker 1: up to you every time, and we like did the 336 00:18:59,600 --> 00:19:01,960 Speaker 1: normal answer, like not that much, and then we came back. 337 00:19:02,000 --> 00:19:04,080 Speaker 1: I was like, do you guys really believe that? Like, 338 00:19:04,119 --> 00:19:06,280 Speaker 1: do you really believe that? And we talked about it 339 00:19:06,320 --> 00:19:08,200 Speaker 1: and we're like, no, we do. Because here's the thing. 340 00:19:08,920 --> 00:19:12,800 Speaker 1: I believe the show would love for every cast member 341 00:19:12,840 --> 00:19:14,840 Speaker 1: to become a villain at some point during the season. 342 00:19:15,000 --> 00:19:17,320 Speaker 1: I think they would love it if there was like 343 00:19:17,520 --> 00:19:21,520 Speaker 1: arguing and fighting and chaos and confusion and heartbreak all 344 00:19:21,560 --> 00:19:25,359 Speaker 1: those things going on. So the differences. Some people just 345 00:19:25,400 --> 00:19:27,560 Speaker 1: say no to it. They just are like, I'm not 346 00:19:27,600 --> 00:19:29,920 Speaker 1: gonna go make fun of that person. I'm not gonna 347 00:19:29,920 --> 00:19:31,920 Speaker 1: go to that group date. I didn't win my date. 348 00:19:32,040 --> 00:19:34,159 Speaker 1: This was the rules that were set up. I'm not 349 00:19:34,200 --> 00:19:37,600 Speaker 1: gonna like go and bash this person with with like negativity. 350 00:19:37,960 --> 00:19:39,480 Speaker 1: It's not me. I'm not gonna do it. You just 351 00:19:39,520 --> 00:19:42,200 Speaker 1: say no, and then what happens the producers going Okay, cool, 352 00:19:42,440 --> 00:19:45,320 Speaker 1: don't do it. But some people say, oh no, that 353 00:19:45,440 --> 00:19:48,200 Speaker 1: sounds awesome, like I want to make their day awful. 354 00:19:48,760 --> 00:19:52,200 Speaker 1: And that's I think where things get hard. Because I've 355 00:19:52,400 --> 00:19:54,480 Speaker 1: I've been in those environments, and I know some of 356 00:19:54,480 --> 00:19:56,520 Speaker 1: these villains are saying yes the things they should be 357 00:19:56,560 --> 00:19:59,399 Speaker 1: saying no to, even as the bachelor, and you can 358 00:19:59,440 --> 00:20:02,400 Speaker 1: probably say this is bachelor, right, there's things every day 359 00:20:02,400 --> 00:20:04,000 Speaker 1: that you probably put your foot down on and said, 360 00:20:04,080 --> 00:20:06,000 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna do it. It's not it's not the 361 00:20:06,000 --> 00:20:08,080 Speaker 1: way I'm gonna handle this situation. I mean, you're a 362 00:20:08,080 --> 00:20:10,480 Speaker 1: great example of it. You literally said, hey, I'm out 363 00:20:10,480 --> 00:20:12,600 Speaker 1: of here, and I'm you know, I found my man 364 00:20:12,880 --> 00:20:16,840 Speaker 1: and I'm out. Like there's there's no rules, and so 365 00:20:16,920 --> 00:20:18,680 Speaker 1: you just have to stand up for yourself and stand 366 00:20:18,720 --> 00:20:21,640 Speaker 1: up for who you are. Yeah, I think I think 367 00:20:21,640 --> 00:20:24,879 Speaker 1: too a lot of people in these women men that 368 00:20:24,960 --> 00:20:30,040 Speaker 1: go on these shows. It's I think a lot of them, 369 00:20:30,200 --> 00:20:31,439 Speaker 1: not a lot of them. I don't know about the 370 00:20:31,440 --> 00:20:34,320 Speaker 1: majority of what people are, but it's they know that 371 00:20:34,359 --> 00:20:36,520 Speaker 1: they're going to have fame from that. Right. You're gonna 372 00:20:36,520 --> 00:20:38,360 Speaker 1: have the followers, you're gonna know, you're gonna be talked about, 373 00:20:38,359 --> 00:20:40,240 Speaker 1: Your name is gonna be put out there. But at 374 00:20:40,280 --> 00:20:43,120 Speaker 1: what cost? When? Yeah, I'll get you that that five 375 00:20:43,160 --> 00:20:46,280 Speaker 1: minutes during the show and get the feedback and get 376 00:20:46,320 --> 00:20:48,240 Speaker 1: your name treining on that. But at the end of 377 00:20:48,240 --> 00:20:51,840 Speaker 1: the day, when you really sit back and go even 378 00:20:51,880 --> 00:20:53,840 Speaker 1: if it's a month from there, or a year from there, 379 00:20:54,040 --> 00:20:57,320 Speaker 1: or two years, three years, ten years down the line, 380 00:20:57,359 --> 00:21:00,960 Speaker 1: that's so like, have some into hegarty on. Not even 381 00:21:01,000 --> 00:21:03,880 Speaker 1: if it gets you five minutes of more TV time. 382 00:21:03,960 --> 00:21:07,080 Speaker 1: It's embarrassing. You know. Maybe that's the public service announcement 383 00:21:07,119 --> 00:21:08,879 Speaker 1: we need to give out in this podcast is I 384 00:21:08,880 --> 00:21:11,280 Speaker 1: will tell you right now one thing, five minutes of 385 00:21:11,320 --> 00:21:14,440 Speaker 1: fame is not fulfilling. It's not worth it. It's cool 386 00:21:14,480 --> 00:21:16,639 Speaker 1: when it happens to you, don't go chasing after it. 387 00:21:16,680 --> 00:21:19,040 Speaker 1: The second thing is, if you're going on this show 388 00:21:20,200 --> 00:21:22,360 Speaker 1: and this is the route you're gonna take to get 389 00:21:22,359 --> 00:21:25,560 Speaker 1: more followers, I'm telling you right now, there's zero benefit. 390 00:21:25,960 --> 00:21:28,760 Speaker 1: Like you might think there's a massive financial benefit. You 391 00:21:28,840 --> 00:21:31,000 Speaker 1: might think the world opens up to you and you 392 00:21:31,040 --> 00:21:33,320 Speaker 1: can be able to do whatever you want. I got 393 00:21:33,320 --> 00:21:37,000 Speaker 1: news for you. It's not the case. And so if 394 00:21:37,040 --> 00:21:39,080 Speaker 1: you're going on this show, try to do it well, 395 00:21:39,200 --> 00:21:42,520 Speaker 1: try to be respectful, because that's really the only benefit 396 00:21:42,600 --> 00:21:48,040 Speaker 1: you get from the show itself is maybe just maybe 397 00:21:48,080 --> 00:21:52,560 Speaker 1: some friendships, maybe a relationship, and possibly for a year, 398 00:21:52,640 --> 00:21:54,640 Speaker 1: maybe go on paradise and you have a great time there, 399 00:21:54,640 --> 00:21:56,800 Speaker 1: and maybe you have to do a couple of Instagram ads. 400 00:21:57,040 --> 00:22:00,560 Speaker 1: But then it ends. It ends, and that's it. It 401 00:22:00,680 --> 00:22:03,199 Speaker 1: ends when you walk out to dinner to hang out 402 00:22:03,240 --> 00:22:06,240 Speaker 1: with your friends or your mom and people are judging 403 00:22:06,240 --> 00:22:09,320 Speaker 1: you based on who you've shown to be and really 404 00:22:09,600 --> 00:22:11,880 Speaker 1: the words you said and what you've chosen to do there. 405 00:22:12,320 --> 00:22:17,520 Speaker 1: It's going to affect you period. You're it's gonna haunt you. Essentially, 406 00:22:18,280 --> 00:22:19,960 Speaker 1: what you don't, what you say, is going to haunt 407 00:22:20,000 --> 00:22:23,040 Speaker 1: you regardless. It haunts the people that don't even have 408 00:22:23,080 --> 00:22:25,919 Speaker 1: bad intentions, that aren't villains. A lot of things they 409 00:22:25,920 --> 00:22:28,800 Speaker 1: say and do haunt them. And it's it's like, you 410 00:22:28,800 --> 00:22:31,359 Speaker 1: have to be able to live with yourself. So I 411 00:22:31,560 --> 00:22:36,000 Speaker 1: oddly have like a weird amount of like this girl 412 00:22:36,080 --> 00:22:39,160 Speaker 1: just does not realize what she's getting herself into by 413 00:22:39,200 --> 00:22:41,159 Speaker 1: staying and doing the things that she's doing. You have 414 00:22:41,240 --> 00:22:44,280 Speaker 1: to be kind of heartless to not care and have 415 00:22:44,320 --> 00:22:47,720 Speaker 1: it not affect you long term. I agree. So here's 416 00:22:47,720 --> 00:22:51,200 Speaker 1: the thing, listeners, You're gonna watch it. It's not going 417 00:22:51,240 --> 00:22:54,280 Speaker 1: well for her. She's going to probably be eliminated. I 418 00:22:54,320 --> 00:22:58,160 Speaker 1: would assume jus at some point here soon, Uh, don't 419 00:22:58,200 --> 00:23:00,200 Speaker 1: double down. The pain of the world is going to 420 00:23:00,240 --> 00:23:03,119 Speaker 1: be enough, Like, don't double down on the criticism of 421 00:23:03,160 --> 00:23:06,040 Speaker 1: her to you know through social media, through the tweets 422 00:23:06,080 --> 00:23:08,280 Speaker 1: and all that it hurts deeply and she's I mean, 423 00:23:08,640 --> 00:23:11,080 Speaker 1: anybody comes from the show, it's just gonna have a 424 00:23:11,119 --> 00:23:15,240 Speaker 1: ton to learn, and that learning period happens right away, 425 00:23:15,240 --> 00:23:19,320 Speaker 1: like as it's airing, and so you know, our health, 426 00:23:19,440 --> 00:23:22,959 Speaker 1: the mental health of these people is very important, and 427 00:23:23,000 --> 00:23:25,480 Speaker 1: it's gonna be a really really hard time for any 428 00:23:25,640 --> 00:23:28,880 Speaker 1: villain that gets off this show. And you just don't 429 00:23:28,920 --> 00:23:30,600 Speaker 1: need to be somebody adds to it. You just don't 430 00:23:30,680 --> 00:23:32,920 Speaker 1: need to be one more person that tells them how 431 00:23:33,000 --> 00:23:36,200 Speaker 1: terrible they are, because we really don't know them as 432 00:23:36,200 --> 00:23:39,840 Speaker 1: a human and we don't know their intentions. So that's 433 00:23:39,840 --> 00:23:43,720 Speaker 1: my son, And honestly, to there, there is so much 434 00:23:45,160 --> 00:23:49,239 Speaker 1: like when it's almost it's very cringe e in like 435 00:23:49,359 --> 00:23:52,960 Speaker 1: a sad way to me when I see see this 436 00:23:53,040 --> 00:23:55,800 Speaker 1: type of like villain behavior happening. It's not because they're 437 00:23:55,800 --> 00:23:58,960 Speaker 1: happy people. It's not because they are feeling good about 438 00:23:59,000 --> 00:24:02,520 Speaker 1: themselves and confide it and unbothered by other people. This 439 00:24:02,800 --> 00:24:04,920 Speaker 1: to me, when I see this kind of like villain 440 00:24:05,440 --> 00:24:09,119 Speaker 1: behavior and words and this hurtful stuff, it clearly shows 441 00:24:09,160 --> 00:24:12,439 Speaker 1: that they are struggling with something within themselves. As it 442 00:24:12,520 --> 00:24:16,000 Speaker 1: is so exactly like you say to the public, do 443 00:24:16,119 --> 00:24:19,760 Speaker 1: not double down on these people. You have no idea 444 00:24:20,880 --> 00:24:24,919 Speaker 1: what they're going through, whether or not they said was 445 00:24:25,119 --> 00:24:29,040 Speaker 1: even awful or regardless of that they're going through. And 446 00:24:29,040 --> 00:24:32,680 Speaker 1: I think I'm I'm fully under the like belief that 447 00:24:33,080 --> 00:24:35,159 Speaker 1: a lot of people go into the show not really 448 00:24:35,200 --> 00:24:38,800 Speaker 1: not understanding all of it in entails, especially afterwards. You're 449 00:24:38,840 --> 00:24:41,919 Speaker 1: not a hated after a famous person going into this, 450 00:24:42,280 --> 00:24:46,920 Speaker 1: You're a regular human being with your own struggles. So yeah, 451 00:24:47,000 --> 00:24:50,359 Speaker 1: you're completely right. Well, that's obviously the first part of 452 00:24:50,359 --> 00:24:54,639 Speaker 1: the episode two. I mean the struggles, um, the women 453 00:24:54,680 --> 00:24:57,880 Speaker 1: in the house kind of uh, just being at uneasy 454 00:24:57,960 --> 00:24:59,560 Speaker 1: about it is really a start of the episode. But 455 00:24:59,560 --> 00:25:01,440 Speaker 1: then we get into the first one on one Day, 456 00:25:01,480 --> 00:25:05,160 Speaker 1: which Serene. Uh. It starts out with Serene jumping into 457 00:25:05,160 --> 00:25:08,639 Speaker 1: Clayton's arms, which is uh, just the most iconic over 458 00:25:08,680 --> 00:25:12,120 Speaker 1: the last five years seen in Bachelor history. Just always happens. 459 00:25:12,520 --> 00:25:14,760 Speaker 1: What were your thoughts on this day and what was 460 00:25:14,800 --> 00:25:19,399 Speaker 1: your expectations for this date before it happened. I actually 461 00:25:19,920 --> 00:25:23,280 Speaker 1: loved this date. I think dates like this are perfect 462 00:25:23,520 --> 00:25:28,000 Speaker 1: because it really gets to highlight what people love and 463 00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:30,359 Speaker 1: it gets to bring their personality out. And clearly this 464 00:25:30,400 --> 00:25:32,840 Speaker 1: is something that she's excited about. Something that she loves 465 00:25:32,840 --> 00:25:35,560 Speaker 1: is amusement parks, and so I feel like it's her 466 00:25:35,600 --> 00:25:39,280 Speaker 1: time to shine, you know. Yeah, and their connection is 467 00:25:39,920 --> 00:25:43,119 Speaker 1: fairly evident. I didn't know if they would have the 468 00:25:43,160 --> 00:25:47,880 Speaker 1: connection that probably either of them were hoping for when 469 00:25:47,920 --> 00:25:51,119 Speaker 1: the dates started, but over the date and through the 470 00:25:51,400 --> 00:25:55,840 Speaker 1: evening portion, like, the connection between them was definitely like 471 00:25:55,960 --> 00:25:59,199 Speaker 1: tangible and and it's almost like somebody that's stuck up 472 00:25:59,200 --> 00:26:01,200 Speaker 1: on us because we just haven't seen a lot from her, 473 00:26:01,800 --> 00:26:03,680 Speaker 1: because we haven't seen a lot from anybody other than 474 00:26:03,720 --> 00:26:06,840 Speaker 1: you know, the drama going down and some teddy scenes 475 00:26:06,880 --> 00:26:11,160 Speaker 1: at the very beginning. So I didn't know, but I 476 00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:13,520 Speaker 1: do think there's something there. I do expect her to 477 00:26:13,560 --> 00:26:16,520 Speaker 1: be around a while I did. I definitely think that 478 00:26:16,520 --> 00:26:20,280 Speaker 1: there's something there, especially because when your guard is down 479 00:26:20,320 --> 00:26:22,760 Speaker 1: and you're like doing these roller coasters and doing all 480 00:26:22,760 --> 00:26:26,840 Speaker 1: these things that you can't really be poised at. You're 481 00:26:26,920 --> 00:26:32,040 Speaker 1: at your rost and when you're vulnerable, and obviously he 482 00:26:32,240 --> 00:26:34,520 Speaker 1: clinged to me to look like he was nervous on 483 00:26:34,600 --> 00:26:38,159 Speaker 1: these so I feel like it was it was a 484 00:26:38,240 --> 00:26:40,280 Speaker 1: space for them to kind of connect on. And when 485 00:26:40,280 --> 00:26:42,359 Speaker 1: you have your guard down, you're vulnerable and you can 486 00:26:42,400 --> 00:26:45,439 Speaker 1: connect on that level. I think that's the best space 487 00:26:45,480 --> 00:26:47,760 Speaker 1: to be in because it's it's an openness that you 488 00:26:47,760 --> 00:26:51,800 Speaker 1: can have there. I felt that they had definite chemistry. 489 00:26:52,240 --> 00:26:54,640 Speaker 1: You know, she was my next bachelor at choice when 490 00:26:54,680 --> 00:26:58,560 Speaker 1: the season started. Well she really I love her. Yeah, 491 00:26:58,640 --> 00:27:00,200 Speaker 1: I mean I thought they would go, you know, why 492 00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:03,000 Speaker 1: not double times? Like the teacher worked out last season. 493 00:27:04,359 --> 00:27:07,280 Speaker 1: She was calm, she was confident, she was a leader. 494 00:27:07,800 --> 00:27:11,439 Speaker 1: She helped navigate this whole thing really well. And I thought, Okay, like, 495 00:27:11,560 --> 00:27:14,040 Speaker 1: go for the teacher again like she worked before. Why 496 00:27:14,040 --> 00:27:16,119 Speaker 1: not again? I would love to see a teacher, you know, 497 00:27:16,160 --> 00:27:19,240 Speaker 1: take some time to find love. So she was my pick. 498 00:27:20,359 --> 00:27:26,399 Speaker 1: I don't know right now, uh, just because it's so difficult. 499 00:27:26,400 --> 00:27:28,200 Speaker 1: We haven't seen enough yet to say, oh, yeah, no, 500 00:27:28,280 --> 00:27:31,720 Speaker 1: she's gonna be around with Clayton at the end. But 501 00:27:31,760 --> 00:27:35,200 Speaker 1: if she's not, I liked her. I think she's great, 502 00:27:35,240 --> 00:27:37,199 Speaker 1: and I think she She brought an ease to the 503 00:27:37,240 --> 00:27:40,879 Speaker 1: show that was needed during this episode because it was 504 00:27:40,920 --> 00:27:43,000 Speaker 1: so much other stuff going on. I thought she like 505 00:27:43,440 --> 00:27:47,840 Speaker 1: transcended through the issues. I think this is this date 506 00:27:47,960 --> 00:27:50,080 Speaker 1: is exactly what the show is made up to me 507 00:27:50,240 --> 00:27:52,600 Speaker 1: Aside from the drama, this is what I love to 508 00:27:52,600 --> 00:27:57,480 Speaker 1: watch on the shows is actually seeing people doing adventurous things, 509 00:27:57,560 --> 00:27:59,320 Speaker 1: doing things that they are out of their element in 510 00:27:59,600 --> 00:28:02,720 Speaker 1: and just falling in love, I guess you could say, 511 00:28:02,800 --> 00:28:05,560 Speaker 1: and seeing that part of it is what what I 512 00:28:05,640 --> 00:28:09,000 Speaker 1: love to see. Well, then we transfer transfer out of 513 00:28:09,040 --> 00:28:11,200 Speaker 1: this one on one date. She obviously got the rose 514 00:28:11,560 --> 00:28:15,240 Speaker 1: just like you don't remember this uh into the cocktail 515 00:28:15,240 --> 00:28:17,159 Speaker 1: party where Clayton shows up to talk to the women, 516 00:28:17,200 --> 00:28:19,800 Speaker 1: he pulls uh some of the women aside to speak 517 00:28:19,840 --> 00:28:23,080 Speaker 1: with them. He also then gets time to speak with 518 00:28:23,119 --> 00:28:25,680 Speaker 1: she a one on one about everything going on within 519 00:28:25,720 --> 00:28:28,640 Speaker 1: the house and all the things that are being discussed. 520 00:28:29,800 --> 00:28:31,480 Speaker 1: So they have this conversation. All right, we don't need 521 00:28:31,520 --> 00:28:32,800 Speaker 1: to pick out it. We kind of talked a lot 522 00:28:32,840 --> 00:28:36,680 Speaker 1: about this situation before. But my question within this conversation 523 00:28:36,680 --> 00:28:40,960 Speaker 1: with you, did you get the sense during it? Because 524 00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:44,640 Speaker 1: I didn't, and I thought I would that she is 525 00:28:44,720 --> 00:28:47,800 Speaker 1: actually into Clayton, like that she's doing, like that she 526 00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:51,720 Speaker 1: was talking to him because she cared about him or 527 00:28:51,840 --> 00:28:54,040 Speaker 1: just cared about being around. I don't know what her 528 00:28:54,080 --> 00:28:56,800 Speaker 1: intentions are yet, but I was not convinced that she's 529 00:28:56,880 --> 00:28:59,680 Speaker 1: that into him from this conversation, So I went into 530 00:28:59,760 --> 00:29:03,040 Speaker 1: it feeling like exactly when I saw this part, I 531 00:29:03,040 --> 00:29:06,280 Speaker 1: felt like she was not into him. But I kind 532 00:29:06,280 --> 00:29:11,000 Speaker 1: of see and I could be totally wrong, a deeper 533 00:29:11,040 --> 00:29:14,680 Speaker 1: sense of unworthiness and like an insecurity that she almost 534 00:29:15,360 --> 00:29:17,560 Speaker 1: It's it's like a self protective thing that I think 535 00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:20,800 Speaker 1: she's doing. So I think she might be into him, 536 00:29:20,800 --> 00:29:23,360 Speaker 1: but I very much think that this is obviously the 537 00:29:23,400 --> 00:29:25,720 Speaker 1: wrong way to go about it. I don't know it 538 00:29:25,840 --> 00:29:29,520 Speaker 1: just it doesn't She keeps talking about. One thing that 539 00:29:29,600 --> 00:29:31,400 Speaker 1: rubs me the wrong way is I hate when people 540 00:29:31,400 --> 00:29:35,440 Speaker 1: say the word winning this show, because then it really 541 00:29:35,480 --> 00:29:40,120 Speaker 1: makes it like this competition, competition, and it's not about winning. 542 00:29:40,160 --> 00:29:44,040 Speaker 1: It's like either it is or it isn't. Oh, you're 543 00:29:44,040 --> 00:29:46,720 Speaker 1: spot on, Yeah, the winning side of this doesn't make sense. 544 00:29:46,760 --> 00:29:48,880 Speaker 1: I don't know what you're winning because if you win, 545 00:29:49,040 --> 00:29:50,880 Speaker 1: if you win an engagement at the end of this 546 00:29:51,400 --> 00:29:53,480 Speaker 1: and you don't really like the person. I'm telling you 547 00:29:53,600 --> 00:29:57,480 Speaker 1: right now from experience, you know, that's not winning. That 548 00:29:57,520 --> 00:29:59,280 Speaker 1: makes it really hard for the next few years of 549 00:29:59,360 --> 00:30:01,080 Speaker 1: your life, for the next couple months of your life 550 00:30:01,560 --> 00:30:03,560 Speaker 1: as you're like trying to plan a life together. So 551 00:30:03,600 --> 00:30:07,120 Speaker 1: there's no winning unless you're really into the human Can 552 00:30:07,160 --> 00:30:10,760 Speaker 1: I get an amen on that? I mean, and like 553 00:30:10,840 --> 00:30:12,520 Speaker 1: I had the benefit of being like, hey, I think 554 00:30:12,520 --> 00:30:14,040 Speaker 1: this is gonna work. I think you did too, Like 555 00:30:14,080 --> 00:30:16,760 Speaker 1: I think this is yeah, this is I actually was 556 00:30:16,800 --> 00:30:19,080 Speaker 1: like into it. I can't imagine faking it. But at 557 00:30:19,080 --> 00:30:23,920 Speaker 1: some point get hard. Yeah, they get really hard. So 558 00:30:23,920 --> 00:30:26,240 Speaker 1: you're not winning if you're not in a good relationship. 559 00:30:26,320 --> 00:30:29,600 Speaker 1: They just that's not a fun season of life. It's 560 00:30:29,640 --> 00:30:34,320 Speaker 1: not enjoyable. It hurt. Honestly, there's no purpose to that 561 00:30:34,360 --> 00:30:38,480 Speaker 1: because there are people who are looking for a relationship, 562 00:30:38,600 --> 00:30:40,880 Speaker 1: who really want to fall in love and who want 563 00:30:41,240 --> 00:30:43,360 Speaker 1: to start that part of their life with somebody and 564 00:30:43,440 --> 00:30:47,600 Speaker 1: who are open to that. So I don't know winning. 565 00:30:47,800 --> 00:30:50,320 Speaker 1: I hate that you're winning with within the show. Yeah, 566 00:30:50,520 --> 00:30:53,480 Speaker 1: I doesn't make sense to me. Well, okay, so she comes. 567 00:30:53,560 --> 00:30:56,800 Speaker 1: We talked about it leaves the conversation with Clayton. He 568 00:30:56,880 --> 00:30:59,920 Speaker 1: kisses her. I think he's into her. I think he is. 569 00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:02,960 Speaker 1: He's definitely into this relationship. But she comes and talks 570 00:31:02,960 --> 00:31:06,520 Speaker 1: to the girls, uh following this conversation with Clayton and apologizes. 571 00:31:06,600 --> 00:31:10,280 Speaker 1: At that point is when we see her uh saying, hey, 572 00:31:10,320 --> 00:31:12,520 Speaker 1: I faked it. I was acting because I'm not putting 573 00:31:12,520 --> 00:31:14,400 Speaker 1: words in her mouth. She literally said, I'm acting. That 574 00:31:14,520 --> 00:31:18,280 Speaker 1: was in a performance of a lifetime. I convinced everybody 575 00:31:18,280 --> 00:31:20,520 Speaker 1: else done that. Then sorry to catch you office if 576 00:31:20,520 --> 00:31:22,000 Speaker 1: you've done that in the past. I feel like this 577 00:31:22,080 --> 00:31:25,440 Speaker 1: is an extreme version of we all think that that's 578 00:31:25,480 --> 00:31:28,280 Speaker 1: kind of what to certain people, but like somebody that 579 00:31:28,440 --> 00:31:31,840 Speaker 1: is this forward about it, I mean, give her credit. 580 00:31:32,320 --> 00:31:35,200 Speaker 1: At least she's owning it to the audience that's watching. 581 00:31:35,280 --> 00:31:38,320 Speaker 1: She's not owning it to the women. Yeah. I don't 582 00:31:38,360 --> 00:31:41,440 Speaker 1: remember a specific time where somebody has done this where 583 00:31:41,480 --> 00:31:44,080 Speaker 1: they've just literally admitted, hey, I lied to everybody in 584 00:31:44,120 --> 00:31:46,800 Speaker 1: that room. I just lied to just stick around. Maybe 585 00:31:46,840 --> 00:31:48,960 Speaker 1: we would have appreciated if people would be more honest 586 00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:52,520 Speaker 1: than and say their intentions from the jump, right. I mean, 587 00:31:52,560 --> 00:31:53,840 Speaker 1: I wish you would have done it to the women 588 00:31:53,920 --> 00:31:55,600 Speaker 1: like been like, hey, I'm gonna say this and I 589 00:31:55,640 --> 00:31:58,280 Speaker 1: don't mean any of it, but I'm gonna apologize to you. 590 00:31:58,800 --> 00:32:01,360 Speaker 1: I'm just here for a good time. Like that's I'm 591 00:32:01,360 --> 00:32:03,240 Speaker 1: gonna start this. And then she goes into apology. She 592 00:32:03,320 --> 00:32:04,959 Speaker 1: hasn't yet done it to a woman, so there is 593 00:32:05,040 --> 00:32:06,920 Speaker 1: that thing that side of it, and I'm like, yeah, 594 00:32:06,920 --> 00:32:09,400 Speaker 1: that's not fair, but at least she's admitting it to 595 00:32:09,440 --> 00:32:12,400 Speaker 1: the audience. She's also with these I T M s. 596 00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:17,120 Speaker 1: She's admitting it to the producers, which if you've ever 597 00:32:17,160 --> 00:32:19,120 Speaker 1: been on this show, the one thing you try to 598 00:32:19,120 --> 00:32:21,440 Speaker 1: do the whole time is to hide as much from 599 00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:25,040 Speaker 1: the producers as possible for as long as possible, because 600 00:32:25,080 --> 00:32:28,120 Speaker 1: whatever you say and do it's definitely gonna be used 601 00:32:28,160 --> 00:32:31,800 Speaker 1: against you in the court of the bachelor. Of course, 602 00:32:31,840 --> 00:32:35,400 Speaker 1: you gotta keep your game face on. So she lost 603 00:32:35,400 --> 00:32:38,560 Speaker 1: the game face. I don't think this gets easier for her. 604 00:32:38,960 --> 00:32:40,800 Speaker 1: Uh And we see some stuff later on the episode 605 00:32:40,800 --> 00:32:44,040 Speaker 1: that we'll get too. Well. At the rose ceremony is over. 606 00:32:44,120 --> 00:32:51,080 Speaker 1: At this point, Clayton gives a rose to Sarah Marlena, Genevieve, Mara, Gabby, Susie, 607 00:32:51,480 --> 00:32:56,360 Speaker 1: Eliza Hunter, and Chennai, Jill Sierra and Lindsay go home. 608 00:32:57,000 --> 00:33:00,280 Speaker 1: Clayton ends the Rose ceremony by being very excited I did, 609 00:33:00,520 --> 00:33:03,360 Speaker 1: saying they're traveling internationally to one of the best cities 610 00:33:03,440 --> 00:33:05,840 Speaker 1: I believe in the world. Though it's not very far, 611 00:33:06,400 --> 00:33:10,200 Speaker 1: but it's a good city, Toronto, Canada. They're on their 612 00:33:10,240 --> 00:33:13,000 Speaker 1: way to Toronto, Canada. We're gonna talk about Toronto and 613 00:33:13,040 --> 00:33:16,080 Speaker 1: all the days that happened right after we take a break. 614 00:33:25,360 --> 00:33:29,040 Speaker 1: The first one on one in Toronto, Canada is with Gabby. 615 00:33:29,440 --> 00:33:33,160 Speaker 1: Gabby is a sweet soul. She is definitely one in 616 00:33:33,200 --> 00:33:36,960 Speaker 1: my opinion, that is not at all flustered by the 617 00:33:37,080 --> 00:33:41,200 Speaker 1: cameras around her. However, she's admitting multiple times to Clayton, 618 00:33:41,680 --> 00:33:45,600 Speaker 1: I'm crazy. I'm absolutely bonkers. You don't want to know 619 00:33:45,680 --> 00:33:47,840 Speaker 1: what's going on up in my head, is what she 620 00:33:48,040 --> 00:33:53,720 Speaker 1: says to Clayton Claire as a woman. Should Clayton be 621 00:33:53,760 --> 00:33:56,400 Speaker 1: seeing that as a red flag? Or is that endearing 622 00:33:56,480 --> 00:34:02,640 Speaker 1: and cute? I find it very endearing and very cute. 623 00:34:02,760 --> 00:34:07,160 Speaker 1: I think this woman is self deprecating and kind of putting. 624 00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:10,160 Speaker 1: I don't I actually don't think she's crazy at all. 625 00:34:10,200 --> 00:34:13,000 Speaker 1: I think she's putting her stuff out there and kind 626 00:34:13,040 --> 00:34:15,799 Speaker 1: of being like, this is who I am. This is 627 00:34:15,800 --> 00:34:17,279 Speaker 1: who I am, and I want I want to show 628 00:34:17,280 --> 00:34:18,839 Speaker 1: you the hard parts and the parts that I'm not 629 00:34:18,880 --> 00:34:21,640 Speaker 1: so proud of, like this is who I am. And 630 00:34:21,680 --> 00:34:24,880 Speaker 1: I think I actually think she uses the word crazy 631 00:34:25,600 --> 00:34:30,239 Speaker 1: loosely because she's goofy at, outgoing and gregarious and just 632 00:34:30,400 --> 00:34:34,320 Speaker 1: kind of like crazy, you know, like I don't always 633 00:34:34,400 --> 00:34:39,120 Speaker 1: find crazy as something negative. No, And typically my life, Claire, 634 00:34:39,640 --> 00:34:41,520 Speaker 1: any human that can admit to me that they're a 635 00:34:41,560 --> 00:34:45,120 Speaker 1: little crazy is typically the least crazy of anybody I 636 00:34:45,200 --> 00:34:49,359 Speaker 1: ever meet, Like right, yeah, like the people are like, yeah, 637 00:34:49,360 --> 00:34:51,880 Speaker 1: I have nothing wrong with me. I'm really normal. Is 638 00:34:51,920 --> 00:34:54,560 Speaker 1: at some point when things switch and you're like, oh 639 00:34:54,600 --> 00:34:58,400 Speaker 1: my goodness. So I found it endearing. I did. I 640 00:34:58,400 --> 00:35:00,600 Speaker 1: think she was nervous, so she probably tried to double 641 00:35:00,640 --> 00:35:02,200 Speaker 1: down on a few more times, like she kind of 642 00:35:02,200 --> 00:35:04,480 Speaker 1: like tried to convince him. He's like, I'm sure you're great. 643 00:35:04,840 --> 00:35:06,360 Speaker 1: Like you know, what do you say to somebody's like 644 00:35:06,360 --> 00:35:09,000 Speaker 1: I'm crazy, You're like, oh that's cool, Like so am 645 00:35:09,000 --> 00:35:11,120 Speaker 1: I But I don't think that. I don't think she's 646 00:35:11,120 --> 00:35:16,520 Speaker 1: sitting down being like just so you know, I'm crazy. 647 00:35:17,160 --> 00:35:19,640 Speaker 1: She's like, I'm just crazy, Like I I think it's 648 00:35:19,719 --> 00:35:22,279 Speaker 1: so endearing, and you see it through the date. You 649 00:35:22,320 --> 00:35:24,319 Speaker 1: see it from the start to the finish, and when 650 00:35:24,440 --> 00:35:26,520 Speaker 1: like they're you know, the nerves are loosened up a 651 00:35:26,520 --> 00:35:28,280 Speaker 1: bit and they start hanging out and they start talking, 652 00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:30,719 Speaker 1: you see them connect and like have a lot of 653 00:35:30,719 --> 00:35:33,000 Speaker 1: fun together. And I think Clayton said, I think one 654 00:35:33,040 --> 00:35:35,520 Speaker 1: of his voiceovers, like what I loved about this date 655 00:35:35,600 --> 00:35:38,480 Speaker 1: was just how relaxed it was, because I think she 656 00:35:38,560 --> 00:35:41,760 Speaker 1: did a great job at kind of calming everyone's nerves. 657 00:35:41,760 --> 00:35:43,920 Speaker 1: She's like, Hey, I'm gonna let you know right now 658 00:35:43,920 --> 00:35:46,040 Speaker 1: who I am. We're gonna have a blast here today. 659 00:35:46,200 --> 00:35:48,719 Speaker 1: I'm so glad you invited me on this date, and 660 00:35:48,800 --> 00:35:50,279 Speaker 1: let's just have fun. And I think they did, and 661 00:35:50,280 --> 00:35:52,920 Speaker 1: I think Clayton needed it so like it was one 662 00:35:52,960 --> 00:35:55,520 Speaker 1: of his better dates so far as the Bachelor, because 663 00:35:55,520 --> 00:35:59,000 Speaker 1: he does seem so uptight or nervous sometimes. I feel 664 00:35:59,000 --> 00:36:01,360 Speaker 1: like this one he was really like starting to loosen 665 00:36:01,440 --> 00:36:03,040 Speaker 1: up a bit. I think you had fun with it. 666 00:36:03,760 --> 00:36:06,720 Speaker 1: I agree to, And I actually think watching this date, 667 00:36:07,600 --> 00:36:10,840 Speaker 1: I feel like as crazy as she calls herself or 668 00:36:10,880 --> 00:36:13,640 Speaker 1: as crazy as she can be, like rocket out role, 669 00:36:14,120 --> 00:36:18,800 Speaker 1: I actually think that watching it. She seems very grounding 670 00:36:18,880 --> 00:36:22,440 Speaker 1: and very calming, and I think when you peel back 671 00:36:22,520 --> 00:36:26,520 Speaker 1: that those layers of I mean, I'm sure you've heard 672 00:36:26,560 --> 00:36:30,480 Speaker 1: it too, where all comedians always have like the deepest 673 00:36:30,480 --> 00:36:33,560 Speaker 1: issues and the darkest paths of things, and they struggle 674 00:36:33,640 --> 00:36:35,560 Speaker 1: the most with a lot of things. That's why they 675 00:36:35,600 --> 00:36:37,239 Speaker 1: make light of it and laugh about it because it's 676 00:36:37,280 --> 00:36:41,440 Speaker 1: the easiest thing to do when you are feeling heavy. Um. 677 00:36:41,480 --> 00:36:45,080 Speaker 1: But she it's her go to move to be kind 678 00:36:45,080 --> 00:36:47,359 Speaker 1: of like crazy and funding and outgoing and everything. But 679 00:36:47,560 --> 00:36:51,160 Speaker 1: she definitely has those layers to her that I think 680 00:36:51,200 --> 00:36:56,160 Speaker 1: are super grounding and super humbling and and really real. 681 00:36:56,280 --> 00:36:58,280 Speaker 1: I guess it's a part of the show. I like watching. 682 00:36:58,680 --> 00:37:01,360 Speaker 1: You got to see real human or real humans interact. 683 00:37:01,600 --> 00:37:04,000 Speaker 1: You know, real humans try to date and it's awkward. 684 00:37:04,080 --> 00:37:07,160 Speaker 1: Dating is so weird and it's hard at times, and 685 00:37:07,560 --> 00:37:09,719 Speaker 1: you get to see two humans try it out. And 686 00:37:09,760 --> 00:37:11,880 Speaker 1: I think that's this is the stuff that I'm really 687 00:37:12,160 --> 00:37:15,840 Speaker 1: wanting to get more into. Is the season progresses is like, Hey, 688 00:37:15,880 --> 00:37:17,520 Speaker 1: I want to know your quirky side. I want to 689 00:37:17,520 --> 00:37:19,160 Speaker 1: know the things that you're insecure. But one of the 690 00:37:19,160 --> 00:37:21,520 Speaker 1: things that you're super confident in let's see if you're 691 00:37:21,520 --> 00:37:24,799 Speaker 1: a match for Clayton and well, I think after this date, 692 00:37:25,200 --> 00:37:27,640 Speaker 1: I believe Gabby and Clayton both feel like, hey there's 693 00:37:27,680 --> 00:37:31,560 Speaker 1: something here. So hey, he's two for two on one 694 00:37:31,560 --> 00:37:34,319 Speaker 1: on ones this week. But then we have a group date. 695 00:37:35,000 --> 00:37:38,200 Speaker 1: Everybody left in the house. There's nine or eleven women 696 00:37:38,239 --> 00:37:40,840 Speaker 1: in the house. Nine women on this date. Genevieve and 697 00:37:40,880 --> 00:37:44,440 Speaker 1: Gene are left off of the group date list. The 698 00:37:44,480 --> 00:37:47,919 Speaker 1: group date happens. This is such a dangerous group date. 699 00:37:48,000 --> 00:37:50,880 Speaker 1: First off, here's the concept personal. Peter is a Canadian 700 00:37:50,960 --> 00:37:54,600 Speaker 1: comedian walks into the room. He's also known for his 701 00:37:54,840 --> 00:37:58,400 Speaker 1: roasting expertise. He's really good at making fun of people. 702 00:37:58,680 --> 00:38:01,080 Speaker 1: Is what a roast really is, And so obviously the 703 00:38:01,120 --> 00:38:05,080 Speaker 1: women are gonna start making fun of themselves. Clayton Jesse 704 00:38:05,239 --> 00:38:09,840 Speaker 1: at times the host of the show. Now what I 705 00:38:09,880 --> 00:38:13,759 Speaker 1: get really nervous for these dates, Claire Same. I don't 706 00:38:13,800 --> 00:38:16,840 Speaker 1: like the idea of them. I think they're funny at times, 707 00:38:16,840 --> 00:38:19,040 Speaker 1: Like you've seen some seasons where people crush it and 708 00:38:19,040 --> 00:38:22,360 Speaker 1: like nobody's really offended and it's just kind of funny. 709 00:38:22,680 --> 00:38:27,200 Speaker 1: But traditionally, and typically these dates are always end people 710 00:38:27,239 --> 00:38:30,640 Speaker 1: being really mad at each other. Of course, it's we 711 00:38:30,760 --> 00:38:34,160 Speaker 1: had a roast on our on my season, and it 712 00:38:34,360 --> 00:38:39,680 Speaker 1: was so uncomfortable because it's I fully agree this is 713 00:38:39,800 --> 00:38:42,640 Speaker 1: there's one thing between like a good riff and a 714 00:38:42,680 --> 00:38:46,839 Speaker 1: good roast. But this house and in this environment, it's 715 00:38:46,920 --> 00:38:51,160 Speaker 1: personal and it's not just comedy and jokes. It's really 716 00:38:51,280 --> 00:38:55,960 Speaker 1: taking digs at people. And you can see how it 717 00:38:56,040 --> 00:38:59,680 Speaker 1: goes from joking about, you know, lighthearted things to actually, 718 00:38:59,719 --> 00:39:03,960 Speaker 1: really we've taken some digs and it's just like, this 719 00:39:04,040 --> 00:39:07,279 Speaker 1: is not it's just it's cringe e to me. It's 720 00:39:07,320 --> 00:39:10,640 Speaker 1: so cringe e to me. I feel awful. I feel 721 00:39:10,680 --> 00:39:14,360 Speaker 1: awful watching it, and I just it's not funny to 722 00:39:14,480 --> 00:39:17,200 Speaker 1: me actually, to be honest, well no, it's just there's 723 00:39:17,200 --> 00:39:19,400 Speaker 1: really no way it's gonna end well. But they do 724 00:39:19,520 --> 00:39:22,200 Speaker 1: take some diggs at Clayton. He definitely is a part 725 00:39:22,280 --> 00:39:25,319 Speaker 1: of most people's jokes, mostly about his failed NFL career, 726 00:39:25,360 --> 00:39:27,920 Speaker 1: which is funny to me because I still talk about 727 00:39:27,960 --> 00:39:30,840 Speaker 1: my high school football career. So the fact that he 728 00:39:30,880 --> 00:39:32,719 Speaker 1: made it to the NFL at all feels like a 729 00:39:32,840 --> 00:39:35,680 Speaker 1: massive accomplishment to me. But maybe I'm just crazy, but 730 00:39:35,719 --> 00:39:38,480 Speaker 1: that doesn't really feel like a failure to me whatsoever. 731 00:39:39,200 --> 00:39:41,680 Speaker 1: Uh So they make some fun of Clayton, they make 732 00:39:41,680 --> 00:39:44,320 Speaker 1: fun of Jesse seeing him and Clayton look exactly alike. 733 00:39:44,840 --> 00:39:47,920 Speaker 1: But then it starts sweeping through the house. At this 734 00:39:47,960 --> 00:39:50,800 Speaker 1: point in time, Claire, if you're the lead of this season, 735 00:39:52,320 --> 00:39:54,680 Speaker 1: you would think Clayton is starting to pick up that 736 00:39:54,760 --> 00:39:57,200 Speaker 1: there is an issue with Cheney, that it's not just 737 00:39:57,239 --> 00:39:59,880 Speaker 1: the one on one issue, that there's multiple women that 738 00:39:59,880 --> 00:40:02,680 Speaker 1: are like, hey, this is just not good for us. 739 00:40:03,880 --> 00:40:05,719 Speaker 1: It's very I mean, if if one good thing came 740 00:40:05,760 --> 00:40:08,040 Speaker 1: for the roast, at least I hope he has uh 741 00:40:08,080 --> 00:40:11,799 Speaker 1: an idea of one the women's personalities within the house, 742 00:40:11,880 --> 00:40:14,759 Speaker 1: and too that there's issues within the house that he 743 00:40:14,840 --> 00:40:16,560 Speaker 1: needs to be made aware of. And I thought this 744 00:40:16,600 --> 00:40:18,440 Speaker 1: is a good opportunity to do it. Would you have 745 00:40:18,480 --> 00:40:21,760 Speaker 1: picked up on that if you were the lead, of course, 746 00:40:22,480 --> 00:40:25,479 Speaker 1: I think you can definitely see where people are taking 747 00:40:25,520 --> 00:40:29,640 Speaker 1: their digs. And clearly this girl was not even at 748 00:40:29,680 --> 00:40:32,719 Speaker 1: the roast, and they're just digging in and digging in 749 00:40:32,760 --> 00:40:35,320 Speaker 1: and digging in. I mean, it went from talking about 750 00:40:35,320 --> 00:40:40,000 Speaker 1: ib s to just I mean, it took it there, 751 00:40:40,040 --> 00:40:43,040 Speaker 1: I guess, but no, no no, no, it's it's hard to watch. 752 00:40:43,200 --> 00:40:47,640 Speaker 1: It's definitely hard to watch. But um, I don't know. 753 00:40:47,960 --> 00:40:52,319 Speaker 1: I yeah, it just cringes me. I'm all four timod ibs. Like, 754 00:40:52,360 --> 00:40:55,239 Speaker 1: if you want to make fun of like my stomach issues, Like, 755 00:40:55,280 --> 00:40:57,000 Speaker 1: if you want to make fun of like my like 756 00:40:57,520 --> 00:41:00,520 Speaker 1: my bodily issues, I'm cool with that, Like, please go 757 00:41:00,560 --> 00:41:02,960 Speaker 1: ahead and do it. Like I know it's weird just 758 00:41:03,000 --> 00:41:05,319 Speaker 1: as much as you do. So we're all on the 759 00:41:05,400 --> 00:41:07,440 Speaker 1: same page here. And if you're gonna tell millions of 760 00:41:07,480 --> 00:41:10,960 Speaker 1: people that I can't stay out of the bathroom, well, hey, 761 00:41:11,160 --> 00:41:14,600 Speaker 1: at least they know now, at least everybody about me, 762 00:41:15,880 --> 00:41:18,600 Speaker 1: So be it. We're human, we get it. It's the 763 00:41:18,640 --> 00:41:20,959 Speaker 1: personal stuff that starts to get weird. You know. There's 764 00:41:21,000 --> 00:41:26,799 Speaker 1: the age jokes, there was the channey stuff, and it 765 00:41:26,880 --> 00:41:29,080 Speaker 1: just started to feel a little heavier than maybe what 766 00:41:29,280 --> 00:41:32,520 Speaker 1: is ideally brought on from these group dates. But it 767 00:41:32,600 --> 00:41:35,439 Speaker 1: doesn't ruin the date because the cocktail party still goes 768 00:41:35,840 --> 00:41:39,719 Speaker 1: very well overall. There's still a great cocktail party. I 769 00:41:39,760 --> 00:41:43,239 Speaker 1: think Clayton connects with multiple women during the cocktail party. 770 00:41:43,280 --> 00:41:44,920 Speaker 1: Alliza is one of them that kind of stood out 771 00:41:44,960 --> 00:41:50,839 Speaker 1: to me. Um Rachel obviously, and then I'm gonna ask 772 00:41:50,880 --> 00:41:53,279 Speaker 1: you who do you think had the best move during 773 00:41:53,320 --> 00:41:55,440 Speaker 1: the cocktail party. I know that names are not like 774 00:41:55,520 --> 00:41:56,960 Speaker 1: the easiest thing right now, so if you just want 775 00:41:57,000 --> 00:41:58,360 Speaker 1: to explain the scene, I'll probably able to give you 776 00:41:58,440 --> 00:42:00,560 Speaker 1: the name. But who stood out to you during the 777 00:42:00,600 --> 00:42:07,120 Speaker 1: cocktail party? Shelly? I and I got that correct, right, 778 00:42:07,120 --> 00:42:13,760 Speaker 1: she got grabbed the mike. Susie, Susie, Shelly, Shelly there, Shelly. 779 00:42:14,160 --> 00:42:16,040 Speaker 1: I don't think so, but I was gonna go with 780 00:42:16,080 --> 00:42:17,640 Speaker 1: it until the end and then just correct you. But no, 781 00:42:17,760 --> 00:42:19,760 Speaker 1: it's Susie. Yeah. I thought that was a great scene. 782 00:42:19,760 --> 00:42:22,960 Speaker 1: So why did you like it so much? I loved 783 00:42:23,160 --> 00:42:26,160 Speaker 1: Susie's approach. First of all, I just love her. I 784 00:42:26,160 --> 00:42:32,640 Speaker 1: think she's super composed. Um, I love that. I think, yeah, 785 00:42:32,640 --> 00:42:35,160 Speaker 1: I'm all for like a taxil roast and like a 786 00:42:35,200 --> 00:42:37,960 Speaker 1: playful banter. But she followed it up with a lot 787 00:42:38,000 --> 00:42:41,880 Speaker 1: of positivity and a lot of really good reinforcing things 788 00:42:41,920 --> 00:42:44,240 Speaker 1: that yes, it's all funny games when we joke around, 789 00:42:44,280 --> 00:42:47,080 Speaker 1: but this is actually what I really do like about you. 790 00:42:47,160 --> 00:42:49,799 Speaker 1: I thought that that was really cute of her to do, 791 00:42:50,040 --> 00:42:52,960 Speaker 1: and um, kind of a good a good move because 792 00:42:53,640 --> 00:42:58,160 Speaker 1: it how do you have been regardless of who you are, 793 00:42:58,680 --> 00:43:01,960 Speaker 1: to be roasted hurts on some level, and they roasted 794 00:43:02,000 --> 00:43:04,799 Speaker 1: Clayton pretty hard. So I think he needed that not 795 00:43:04,840 --> 00:43:08,239 Speaker 1: only from her, but I think his ego needed it too, 796 00:43:08,360 --> 00:43:10,160 Speaker 1: just to kind of like make him feel a little 797 00:43:10,160 --> 00:43:11,600 Speaker 1: bit better. So it was a good movie. Yeah, I 798 00:43:11,640 --> 00:43:13,480 Speaker 1: don't know if he You know, the one thing about 799 00:43:13,520 --> 00:43:18,239 Speaker 1: Clayton that I think I could probably guess is I 800 00:43:18,239 --> 00:43:21,040 Speaker 1: don't think his ego is like thriving right now being 801 00:43:21,080 --> 00:43:23,640 Speaker 1: the Bachelor. As we watched filming, I think he's kind 802 00:43:23,640 --> 00:43:27,719 Speaker 1: of feeling crushed. I think he's probably feeling confused. I 803 00:43:27,840 --> 00:43:30,399 Speaker 1: don't know if the connections with the women are as 804 00:43:30,480 --> 00:43:33,239 Speaker 1: strong is what we even see on TV, and so 805 00:43:33,320 --> 00:43:36,520 Speaker 1: I think he's probably like hurting. So for Susie to 806 00:43:36,560 --> 00:43:39,360 Speaker 1: do this is an incredible move, and it's also a 807 00:43:39,440 --> 00:43:42,960 Speaker 1: move that you learned during marriage. Right You say something 808 00:43:43,000 --> 00:43:46,040 Speaker 1: that you didn't really mean and you're joking and you 809 00:43:46,040 --> 00:43:47,839 Speaker 1: thought it was gonna be funny and it didn't land 810 00:43:47,880 --> 00:43:50,279 Speaker 1: with your partner, and then you gotta figure out a 811 00:43:50,280 --> 00:43:52,480 Speaker 1: way to apologize. But you just don't want to go 812 00:43:52,520 --> 00:43:54,759 Speaker 1: and say I'm sorry. You gotta try to like kind 813 00:43:54,760 --> 00:43:56,960 Speaker 1: of fix it and show how much you love them. 814 00:43:57,040 --> 00:43:58,600 Speaker 1: And this is kind of how you do it. You 815 00:43:58,680 --> 00:44:01,399 Speaker 1: go and you maybe bring to the situation you say, hey, 816 00:44:01,560 --> 00:44:03,400 Speaker 1: I know I said that, but this is how I 817 00:44:03,440 --> 00:44:06,360 Speaker 1: really feel. I thought it was a great move for Susie. 818 00:44:06,400 --> 00:44:08,479 Speaker 1: I think it's gonna I think it was a sign 819 00:44:08,480 --> 00:44:10,839 Speaker 1: of things to come. She's in my top three at 820 00:44:10,880 --> 00:44:13,919 Speaker 1: this point. I don't think she going home anytime soon. 821 00:44:13,960 --> 00:44:16,560 Speaker 1: But here's a crazy part. She did not get the 822 00:44:16,560 --> 00:44:19,440 Speaker 1: group date Rose. Rachel got the group date Rose. We 823 00:44:19,480 --> 00:44:23,200 Speaker 1: didn't really see a ton um. We got to see 824 00:44:23,239 --> 00:44:25,440 Speaker 1: like some conversations between it, but we don't really get 825 00:44:25,480 --> 00:44:27,880 Speaker 1: to see why she got the group day Rose. There 826 00:44:27,920 --> 00:44:30,719 Speaker 1: was definitely some great people involved. I thought Eliza could 827 00:44:30,719 --> 00:44:33,920 Speaker 1: have got it um, but she did. Rachel got the 828 00:44:33,920 --> 00:44:37,360 Speaker 1: group day Rose. She will be here another week. Well, Claire, 829 00:44:37,400 --> 00:44:39,279 Speaker 1: I feel like I know why Rachel about the group date. 830 00:44:39,719 --> 00:44:43,839 Speaker 1: Tell outside looking in on the tidbit that we saw. 831 00:44:45,160 --> 00:44:50,160 Speaker 1: To me, they have mad chemistry, mad chemistry, and I 832 00:44:50,200 --> 00:44:53,560 Speaker 1: think I can see it when he looks at her, 833 00:44:54,719 --> 00:44:56,920 Speaker 1: how he looks at her. He looks like he just 834 00:44:56,960 --> 00:45:01,959 Speaker 1: wants to eat her face to h And I think 835 00:45:02,239 --> 00:45:06,920 Speaker 1: that alone, especially from men like that goes far, you know, 836 00:45:07,000 --> 00:45:13,600 Speaker 1: chemistry does go far, and so he's so enough. Yeah, 837 00:45:13,960 --> 00:45:16,440 Speaker 1: I mean they were a little chit chatting, but then 838 00:45:16,440 --> 00:45:18,840 Speaker 1: it was like shut up and kiss me. You know. 839 00:45:19,280 --> 00:45:20,880 Speaker 1: She's like, I don't even care what you're saying. I 840 00:45:20,960 --> 00:45:24,000 Speaker 1: just I just want to be kissing you right now. Yeah. Well, 841 00:45:24,000 --> 00:45:26,359 Speaker 1: good for him, good for her. I think it takes 842 00:45:26,360 --> 00:45:28,360 Speaker 1: a lot of the stress for what's going on to 843 00:45:28,480 --> 00:45:30,920 Speaker 1: and a lot of the like pressure to have these 844 00:45:30,960 --> 00:45:33,799 Speaker 1: intense conversations. That takes a lot of the pressure of that. 845 00:45:34,120 --> 00:45:36,920 Speaker 1: And if he likes kissing her, right, if he's into it, 846 00:45:37,120 --> 00:45:41,040 Speaker 1: then like he's he'll go home at least after that day. 847 00:45:41,120 --> 00:45:43,680 Speaker 1: I know those evenings you go home and you think 848 00:45:43,680 --> 00:45:46,600 Speaker 1: through the day, you're like, oh, man, I kissed her. 849 00:45:46,760 --> 00:45:48,880 Speaker 1: She's gonna have to go home to like she's great, 850 00:45:48,960 --> 00:45:51,520 Speaker 1: but I just like it's not working there. But if 851 00:45:51,520 --> 00:45:53,160 Speaker 1: he's kissing her and he's going home and he's like, 852 00:45:53,320 --> 00:45:59,120 Speaker 1: holy cow, like this is good, right, didn't he straight 853 00:45:59,280 --> 00:46:02,400 Speaker 1: say I can't always think about you. I can't stop 854 00:46:02,400 --> 00:46:05,160 Speaker 1: thinking about you. You're all my mind all the time. Yeah, 855 00:46:05,440 --> 00:46:08,040 Speaker 1: that's that's a sign. That was a good pick up there. Claire, 856 00:46:08,200 --> 00:46:11,799 Speaker 1: nice job, because yes, that's that's a comment you make 857 00:46:11,880 --> 00:46:14,960 Speaker 1: during this show because there's so much going on and 858 00:46:15,000 --> 00:46:16,960 Speaker 1: there's so much time that you don't see that person. 859 00:46:17,040 --> 00:46:19,360 Speaker 1: You say it because you can't say too much. You 860 00:46:19,440 --> 00:46:22,479 Speaker 1: say it to let them know just how into them 861 00:46:22,560 --> 00:46:28,000 Speaker 1: you are. And I think he's really into it totally. Well, 862 00:46:28,040 --> 00:46:32,719 Speaker 1: obviously we in the episode with a cliffhanger. Literally, Genevieve 863 00:46:32,840 --> 00:46:35,799 Speaker 1: and Sanai are on the two on one day. The 864 00:46:35,840 --> 00:46:38,040 Speaker 1: only thing I really want to bring up here is, 865 00:46:38,520 --> 00:46:41,000 Speaker 1: you know, the women are very much in favor of 866 00:46:41,080 --> 00:46:45,560 Speaker 1: gen Nevieve coming back. Uh, Clayton's very stressed about this. 867 00:46:45,640 --> 00:46:48,719 Speaker 1: Day too. On ones are not ideal, They're very awkward, 868 00:46:49,280 --> 00:46:52,840 Speaker 1: But Shane says, like some things that just aren't good, 869 00:46:53,320 --> 00:46:56,440 Speaker 1: Let's be honest. She says that Genevieve is pretty much 870 00:46:56,440 --> 00:46:58,920 Speaker 1: gonna be thrown off the side of the waterfall that 871 00:46:59,000 --> 00:47:02,759 Speaker 1: you she hopes she can swim mhm, and that one 872 00:47:02,800 --> 00:47:06,600 Speaker 1: more girl is going to be going down because of her. 873 00:47:07,800 --> 00:47:10,000 Speaker 1: Why does she keep saying she's the one sending them 874 00:47:10,000 --> 00:47:12,200 Speaker 1: the home, by the way, last time I checked, she's 875 00:47:12,239 --> 00:47:14,560 Speaker 1: not the one sending them home, Like, where does she 876 00:47:14,600 --> 00:47:17,000 Speaker 1: get this entitlement of I don't know that blows my 877 00:47:17,000 --> 00:47:19,160 Speaker 1: mind hearing yet I agree, And that's pretty much what 878 00:47:19,200 --> 00:47:21,799 Speaker 1: I want to ask you is where where is her 879 00:47:21,840 --> 00:47:24,719 Speaker 1: mind at? If you could again, maybe if you put 880 00:47:24,760 --> 00:47:27,359 Speaker 1: yourself in clayton shoes and you're trying to figure out 881 00:47:27,400 --> 00:47:28,960 Speaker 1: who you're going to send home on this to one 882 00:47:28,960 --> 00:47:31,279 Speaker 1: wonder how are you going to navigate this date to 883 00:47:31,360 --> 00:47:35,239 Speaker 1: try to make it beneficial for the parties involved? Like 884 00:47:35,719 --> 00:47:38,080 Speaker 1: what are you reading into with Shai right now? What 885 00:47:38,120 --> 00:47:40,440 Speaker 1: are you seeing and how she's what she's saying, and 886 00:47:40,480 --> 00:47:43,319 Speaker 1: how she's behaving, and if you're the lead, how would 887 00:47:43,320 --> 00:47:48,000 Speaker 1: you have handled it? Well? I think truthfully, we're seeing 888 00:47:48,040 --> 00:47:50,560 Speaker 1: this from an outside perspective. We're not seeing this from 889 00:47:50,680 --> 00:47:56,000 Speaker 1: Clayton's perspective, which he I'm pretty sure has gotten tid 890 00:47:56,000 --> 00:47:58,080 Speaker 1: bits of pieces obviously from the roast and stuff. I 891 00:47:58,080 --> 00:48:00,200 Speaker 1: don't think he's seeing the side of her personality that 892 00:48:00,320 --> 00:48:05,480 Speaker 1: we're all seen. So it's hard to say what because 893 00:48:05,719 --> 00:48:07,600 Speaker 1: I think he would be making a lot of different 894 00:48:07,640 --> 00:48:10,240 Speaker 1: choices at a lot of different times, maybe sooner or whatever, 895 00:48:10,719 --> 00:48:13,879 Speaker 1: if he had seen all this stuff. But he's not 896 00:48:13,960 --> 00:48:16,879 Speaker 1: seeing all of it, so us seeing it it's very 897 00:48:16,920 --> 00:48:20,680 Speaker 1: cringe e. But I think I don't know. I think 898 00:48:20,680 --> 00:48:23,640 Speaker 1: you kind of have to be at this point blind 899 00:48:23,920 --> 00:48:28,560 Speaker 1: to be if this stuff keeps popping up. Obviously it's 900 00:48:28,560 --> 00:48:31,160 Speaker 1: a two on one for a reason. Whether or not 901 00:48:31,239 --> 00:48:32,600 Speaker 1: he was the one who chose them to go on 902 00:48:32,640 --> 00:48:35,160 Speaker 1: this two on one, I think it's it's ah, he 903 00:48:35,239 --> 00:48:38,239 Speaker 1: knows what he's doing, and I think it's a smart move. 904 00:48:39,360 --> 00:48:42,000 Speaker 1: But it's scary for the girls, like how they have 905 00:48:42,040 --> 00:48:44,239 Speaker 1: no idea what's going to happen. It's really weird for 906 00:48:44,320 --> 00:48:47,000 Speaker 1: Genevieve because Genevieve's kind of stayed out of it, like 907 00:48:47,040 --> 00:48:50,200 Speaker 1: she hasn't been as involved as what I think even 908 00:48:50,880 --> 00:48:53,680 Speaker 1: the cameras have shown. And now she's on a two 909 00:48:53,680 --> 00:48:55,439 Speaker 1: on one day with the one person in the house 910 00:48:55,440 --> 00:48:57,520 Speaker 1: that everybody else in the house is upset over. She's 911 00:48:57,520 --> 00:49:00,000 Speaker 1: not got, she hasn't She's probably not feeling great about 912 00:49:00,000 --> 00:49:02,680 Speaker 1: her relationship with Clayton at this point. I can't imagine 913 00:49:02,680 --> 00:49:05,520 Speaker 1: she's like, oh, yeah, we're thriving. I will say this, 914 00:49:06,840 --> 00:49:10,439 Speaker 1: if Draft Kings had a bet on who was going home, 915 00:49:10,960 --> 00:49:14,319 Speaker 1: I would put my life savings on China going home. 916 00:49:14,440 --> 00:49:18,600 Speaker 1: From this date, there's no shot in my mind, after 917 00:49:18,640 --> 00:49:22,480 Speaker 1: the roast, after last week, after this group, after this 918 00:49:22,640 --> 00:49:24,919 Speaker 1: to on one day that she she makes it through. 919 00:49:24,960 --> 00:49:28,719 Speaker 1: I just cannot imagine that there's no way. And I 920 00:49:29,320 --> 00:49:34,279 Speaker 1: really do think people's true colors eventually kind of show through, 921 00:49:34,800 --> 00:49:38,680 Speaker 1: and I don't I think they definitely at the end 922 00:49:38,719 --> 00:49:42,279 Speaker 1: of this date show through. They have to clear That's 923 00:49:42,320 --> 00:49:44,200 Speaker 1: my guess. I don't know how could you you got 924 00:49:44,239 --> 00:49:46,040 Speaker 1: you got you gotta be blind to not see it. 925 00:49:46,160 --> 00:49:48,399 Speaker 1: You've got to be blind, or you've got to be 926 00:49:48,520 --> 00:49:50,759 Speaker 1: not putting your foot down. So the other side of this, 927 00:49:50,840 --> 00:49:52,520 Speaker 1: and this is how will close it is what could 928 00:49:52,520 --> 00:49:55,360 Speaker 1: be happening is and and again I have no problem 929 00:49:55,360 --> 00:49:57,440 Speaker 1: with this as a fan of the show, is the 930 00:49:57,480 --> 00:50:00,400 Speaker 1: producers could be like Cleveling, you're kind of interesting, aren't you. 931 00:50:00,520 --> 00:50:03,319 Speaker 1: He's like, yeah, she's good looking, she's good kiss her. 932 00:50:04,440 --> 00:50:06,200 Speaker 1: And they can come back to him and say, well, 933 00:50:06,200 --> 00:50:09,160 Speaker 1: you should keep around a lot, and he could say, yeah, 934 00:50:09,280 --> 00:50:12,680 Speaker 1: but all these women are having issues and it hasn't 935 00:50:12,840 --> 00:50:14,920 Speaker 1: been good since the beginning and the roads and all 936 00:50:14,920 --> 00:50:18,319 Speaker 1: this stuff, and they say yeah, but like who cares 937 00:50:18,320 --> 00:50:20,279 Speaker 1: what they think? It's up to you, And he could 938 00:50:20,320 --> 00:50:24,680 Speaker 1: be saying, you're right, I'm gonna keep her around because 939 00:50:24,719 --> 00:50:26,880 Speaker 1: he has I mean, because as much as he's seen it, 940 00:50:26,960 --> 00:50:29,120 Speaker 1: he's still blinding himself to it. And he also isn't 941 00:50:29,120 --> 00:50:31,200 Speaker 1: putting his foot down. And and that's what I want 942 00:50:31,200 --> 00:50:32,959 Speaker 1: to see with him, is is he going to stand 943 00:50:33,040 --> 00:50:35,760 Speaker 1: up and say no for the sake of the house, 944 00:50:35,840 --> 00:50:38,720 Speaker 1: for the women involved, for the Rachel's of this world 945 00:50:38,719 --> 00:50:41,000 Speaker 1: that I just am so into, for the Serenes of 946 00:50:41,040 --> 00:50:43,400 Speaker 1: this world that I'm so into. She's gonna go home 947 00:50:43,760 --> 00:50:46,239 Speaker 1: because it's not worth it. We'll see next week, right, 948 00:50:46,280 --> 00:50:50,080 Speaker 1: It's that's why it's a cliffhanger, t b D. We 949 00:50:50,160 --> 00:50:53,160 Speaker 1: shall see. I this is where we would come in 950 00:50:53,239 --> 00:50:56,040 Speaker 1: handy And I don't know. I'm sure a lot of 951 00:50:56,080 --> 00:50:58,640 Speaker 1: people know this, but it would be so nice to 952 00:50:58,719 --> 00:51:02,319 Speaker 1: have assist or a friend. Then you can call and 953 00:51:02,360 --> 00:51:04,600 Speaker 1: go what do you think I should do? And not 954 00:51:04,920 --> 00:51:07,760 Speaker 1: a producer who's going I should do it? You should 955 00:51:07,840 --> 00:51:10,560 Speaker 1: do it? You know, keep around. It would be very 956 00:51:10,640 --> 00:51:13,000 Speaker 1: nice to have a friend go what are you doing? 957 00:51:13,200 --> 00:51:17,080 Speaker 1: What are you doing? Step up? Be smarter? Uh? Well, Claire, 958 00:51:17,600 --> 00:51:19,680 Speaker 1: that's this week's episode. We're gonna take a break. When 959 00:51:19,680 --> 00:51:21,879 Speaker 1: we come back, we have Bachelor headlines to break down. 960 00:51:21,880 --> 00:51:23,920 Speaker 1: I haven't read through him yet. I don't know if 961 00:51:23,920 --> 00:51:26,200 Speaker 1: you're in any of them, but if you are, well, 962 00:51:26,320 --> 00:51:28,640 Speaker 1: come on, we're coming straight from the source. We'll be 963 00:51:28,680 --> 00:51:31,760 Speaker 1: back with Claire. On this week's episode of Almost Famous, 964 00:51:42,440 --> 00:51:45,880 Speaker 1: It's time for Bachelor Nation. The headlines are resident expert 965 00:51:46,040 --> 00:51:49,360 Speaker 1: Ashley can Edtie is well, Ashley I can Edtie Haven 966 00:51:49,560 --> 00:51:51,879 Speaker 1: is now a mom and unable to join us this week, 967 00:51:51,960 --> 00:51:55,120 Speaker 1: So Claire is sticking around and talking through these headlines 968 00:51:55,280 --> 00:51:58,600 Speaker 1: with us. The first headline is this Claire the Bachelor's 969 00:51:58,640 --> 00:52:02,120 Speaker 1: Elizabeth were again ask fans to stop sending hate to 970 00:52:02,160 --> 00:52:07,719 Speaker 1: Clayton after nai drama. So clear My question for you 971 00:52:08,120 --> 00:52:10,480 Speaker 1: is it The headline pretty much speaks to the article. 972 00:52:10,600 --> 00:52:13,200 Speaker 1: She's just asked people stop being mean. Do you agree 973 00:52:13,280 --> 00:52:17,360 Speaker 1: with this? Should they stop being mean to Clayton? Uh? 974 00:52:17,480 --> 00:52:23,880 Speaker 1: After last week's drama? One thousand percent? One thousand percent. 975 00:52:23,960 --> 00:52:28,160 Speaker 1: I don't care who said, what, what did. At the 976 00:52:28,280 --> 00:52:32,880 Speaker 1: end of the day, everybody is human and we don't 977 00:52:32,960 --> 00:52:36,160 Speaker 1: know just because we see an hour clip of somebody's 978 00:52:36,200 --> 00:52:39,640 Speaker 1: life that happened a few months ago when this was filmed. 979 00:52:39,920 --> 00:52:44,520 Speaker 1: We don't know people's mental states now and what's going 980 00:52:44,560 --> 00:52:46,120 Speaker 1: on in their life and their heart and what they're 981 00:52:46,120 --> 00:52:49,080 Speaker 1: going through. And so I think two that was that 982 00:52:49,160 --> 00:52:51,520 Speaker 1: was a big move on Elizbeth's part, and I think 983 00:52:51,520 --> 00:52:52,840 Speaker 1: that was the right thing to do, and it just 984 00:52:52,880 --> 00:52:56,959 Speaker 1: shows her character, which is why I loved her. Um 985 00:52:57,040 --> 00:53:03,920 Speaker 1: But I think in me it's speaking a lot about 986 00:53:04,080 --> 00:53:06,920 Speaker 1: they know things with what each other going through, what 987 00:53:06,960 --> 00:53:11,640 Speaker 1: Clayton's going through, what they're all going through, that the 988 00:53:11,680 --> 00:53:16,319 Speaker 1: public has no idea. And I cannot emphasize this enough. 989 00:53:16,440 --> 00:53:19,399 Speaker 1: I was on I'm sure you've been on the other 990 00:53:19,440 --> 00:53:22,319 Speaker 1: side of it as well, Like there were points when 991 00:53:22,360 --> 00:53:28,600 Speaker 1: I was at my absolute lowest, and there were times 992 00:53:28,640 --> 00:53:31,360 Speaker 1: when people would just like, I'm a very emotional like 993 00:53:31,400 --> 00:53:33,879 Speaker 1: I'm a strong woman and I could handle and take 994 00:53:33,920 --> 00:53:37,080 Speaker 1: a lot, but there were comments, and when it's a 995 00:53:37,200 --> 00:53:39,400 Speaker 1: hundred comments, and when you think you're just typing something 996 00:53:39,400 --> 00:53:43,240 Speaker 1: and spouting off something to somebody, you think it's gonna 997 00:53:43,280 --> 00:53:46,320 Speaker 1: like I'm just gonna mindlessly send this, But there's hundreds 998 00:53:46,360 --> 00:53:48,840 Speaker 1: of those, and hundreds of you should kill yourself, and 999 00:53:49,120 --> 00:53:52,120 Speaker 1: hundreds of inappropriate, not okay things to be saying to 1000 00:53:52,160 --> 00:53:57,799 Speaker 1: people crossing the line, like relax, you guys, relax, you know, 1001 00:53:57,840 --> 00:53:58,960 Speaker 1: and so I think that was a good move on 1002 00:53:59,000 --> 00:54:01,480 Speaker 1: your part. I do it. It's nice to see. It 1003 00:54:01,480 --> 00:54:03,800 Speaker 1: would have mental lot to me too. When I was 1004 00:54:03,840 --> 00:54:06,120 Speaker 1: on the Bachelor, if one of the contestants who I 1005 00:54:06,200 --> 00:54:09,040 Speaker 1: sent home would have stood up and said, hey, let 1006 00:54:09,040 --> 00:54:11,040 Speaker 1: you know, this is who he is. Nobody did, maybe 1007 00:54:11,000 --> 00:54:13,360 Speaker 1: because they didn't believe that's who I was, But it 1008 00:54:13,360 --> 00:54:17,200 Speaker 1: would have felt great if they would have actually know. 1009 00:54:17,360 --> 00:54:20,160 Speaker 1: Everybody on my scene was very supportive and very helpful, 1010 00:54:20,440 --> 00:54:22,879 Speaker 1: and friends after the same thing, the same thing. All 1011 00:54:22,920 --> 00:54:25,799 Speaker 1: it takes, and and that's why I try to reach 1012 00:54:25,800 --> 00:54:27,400 Speaker 1: out to people and just be like, just so you know, 1013 00:54:27,480 --> 00:54:29,439 Speaker 1: I'm here if you need me, because I get it. 1014 00:54:29,520 --> 00:54:34,040 Speaker 1: But it was undoubtedly one of the hardest things I've 1015 00:54:34,080 --> 00:54:35,520 Speaker 1: been through, not and not to make this is not 1016 00:54:35,600 --> 00:54:38,319 Speaker 1: about me, but I know exactly what he's going through 1017 00:54:38,360 --> 00:54:41,040 Speaker 1: and what they're experiencing. Even on the villain side of it. 1018 00:54:41,800 --> 00:54:44,239 Speaker 1: They still don't deserve this. It means they're struggling even 1019 00:54:44,239 --> 00:54:46,840 Speaker 1: more so have some grace to this. And at the 1020 00:54:46,920 --> 00:54:50,759 Speaker 1: end of the day, it doesn't affect your life, you 1021 00:54:50,760 --> 00:54:53,120 Speaker 1: don't need to be but the hate will affect their 1022 00:54:53,160 --> 00:54:56,799 Speaker 1: lives and it could be just that one comment, you know, 1023 00:54:56,880 --> 00:54:59,000 Speaker 1: that one comment they could push him over the edge 1024 00:54:59,480 --> 00:55:01,680 Speaker 1: that you don't want to be that person. That's a 1025 00:55:01,719 --> 00:55:05,080 Speaker 1: great statement. The hate won't affect your life, it will 1026 00:55:05,120 --> 00:55:10,759 Speaker 1: affect their life. Wow, Claire probably just throwing wisdom out 1027 00:55:10,800 --> 00:55:14,000 Speaker 1: there at us today. Um, Claire, we could use your 1028 00:55:14,000 --> 00:55:18,120 Speaker 1: wisdom on this headline because I think you're familiar with this. 1029 00:55:18,960 --> 00:55:22,000 Speaker 1: Oh lord, what is it currently in your life? The 1030 00:55:22,040 --> 00:55:26,759 Speaker 1: headline is this meet Jake Funk, Bachelor's star Hannah and 1031 00:55:26,920 --> 00:55:32,600 Speaker 1: Sluss alleged boyfriend. So the big word there is alleged 1032 00:55:33,480 --> 00:55:40,000 Speaker 1: Allegedly Hannah and is dating somebody Claire as somebody that 1033 00:55:40,080 --> 00:55:46,120 Speaker 1: has been allegedly dating somebody? How true do you believe 1034 00:55:46,160 --> 00:55:51,239 Speaker 1: this article is? And well then I'll break it down 1035 00:55:52,400 --> 00:55:56,960 Speaker 1: all right. Well, I think being in the bachelor world, 1036 00:55:57,239 --> 00:56:01,920 Speaker 1: all people really know us for is our love lives, right, so, 1037 00:56:02,080 --> 00:56:04,200 Speaker 1: and all people want and I like to pray and 1038 00:56:04,200 --> 00:56:05,799 Speaker 1: hope for the best of this is people want to 1039 00:56:05,800 --> 00:56:09,720 Speaker 1: see and are invested in your happiness, in your love life. 1040 00:56:10,960 --> 00:56:15,760 Speaker 1: But I will attest to this, there's been headlines before 1041 00:56:15,760 --> 00:56:19,800 Speaker 1: about me and other people. I would say, until she 1042 00:56:19,920 --> 00:56:21,640 Speaker 1: comes out with it, take it for a grain assault 1043 00:56:22,680 --> 00:56:25,799 Speaker 1: until she comes out and says, meet my boyfriend. This 1044 00:56:25,880 --> 00:56:27,360 Speaker 1: is what she's willing to share with you, This is 1045 00:56:27,400 --> 00:56:28,839 Speaker 1: what she wants you to know about it. If it's 1046 00:56:28,880 --> 00:56:32,720 Speaker 1: not talked about, if she doesn't come out and say it, um, 1047 00:56:32,760 --> 00:56:35,680 Speaker 1: maybe that's there's a reason for that. Yeah, I mean, 1048 00:56:35,960 --> 00:56:37,960 Speaker 1: jess and I did it for six months before we 1049 00:56:38,000 --> 00:56:41,000 Speaker 1: came out public. The reason is because it's like, I mean, 1050 00:56:41,000 --> 00:56:43,320 Speaker 1: even at six months, it's still a new relationship. You 1051 00:56:43,360 --> 00:56:44,799 Speaker 1: don't want to put too much stress on. You don't 1052 00:56:44,800 --> 00:56:47,360 Speaker 1: want people talking about it. You Also, if it doesn't 1053 00:56:47,400 --> 00:56:50,200 Speaker 1: work out, I don't want a headline talking about poor 1054 00:56:50,400 --> 00:56:54,400 Speaker 1: you know, Jessica Clark from Franklin, Tennessee getting you know, 1055 00:56:54,440 --> 00:56:56,959 Speaker 1: and when she's like, you know, just this normal human 1056 00:56:56,960 --> 00:56:59,200 Speaker 1: who's like a tracker and it from well miss, and 1057 00:56:59,239 --> 00:57:02,520 Speaker 1: so I'm with few. Let's pause on the excitement and 1058 00:57:02,640 --> 00:57:04,759 Speaker 1: most of this, and just to give you some idea here. 1059 00:57:04,840 --> 00:57:07,719 Speaker 1: Jake Funk is an NFL football player. He plays for 1060 00:57:07,840 --> 00:57:12,319 Speaker 1: the Los Angeles Rams. He selected to the NFL and one, 1061 00:57:12,520 --> 00:57:16,760 Speaker 1: he had a great career at Maryland University. Uh, he 1062 00:57:16,880 --> 00:57:20,960 Speaker 1: was an incredible college athlete and so yes, he's on 1063 00:57:21,000 --> 00:57:23,880 Speaker 1: the Rams team who will be playing in the Super 1064 00:57:23,880 --> 00:57:26,160 Speaker 1: Bowl coming up. Maybe she'll get free tickets that could 1065 00:57:26,200 --> 00:57:28,640 Speaker 1: be a benefit. Have they have they talked about publicly 1066 00:57:28,680 --> 00:57:31,160 Speaker 1: that this is their relationship. No, no, So this is 1067 00:57:31,160 --> 00:57:34,000 Speaker 1: all coming from rumors that they spent time together in Malibu. 1068 00:57:34,080 --> 00:57:39,200 Speaker 1: And then Jake commented on Hannah's recent Instagram post and uh, 1069 00:57:40,520 --> 00:57:44,240 Speaker 1: she the caption reb brunch or lunch, what's your favorite? 1070 00:57:45,040 --> 00:57:47,880 Speaker 1: And he commented on that something. And so people like 1071 00:57:48,200 --> 00:57:51,960 Speaker 1: people commenting or people hanging out together equates a relationship. 1072 00:57:52,400 --> 00:57:55,840 Speaker 1: I mean, I think it's obvious. But at the same time, 1073 00:57:57,880 --> 00:57:59,360 Speaker 1: at this day and age, like I said, I know 1074 00:57:59,400 --> 00:58:02,919 Speaker 1: that's how people well know this contestants from the show. 1075 00:58:03,320 --> 00:58:06,880 Speaker 1: But there's also that great area in between that everybody 1076 00:58:06,920 --> 00:58:10,040 Speaker 1: in the real world goes through, which is that do 1077 00:58:10,120 --> 00:58:13,000 Speaker 1: I like him? You're still figuring it out. To let 1078 00:58:13,040 --> 00:58:15,320 Speaker 1: her figure it out and whether she is or whether 1079 00:58:15,400 --> 00:58:17,960 Speaker 1: she isn't, Like like I said, when she's comfortable, she'll 1080 00:58:17,960 --> 00:58:20,320 Speaker 1: talk about it. But until then, let it be that 1081 00:58:20,360 --> 00:58:22,280 Speaker 1: gray area where you're still trying to figure out maybe 1082 00:58:22,320 --> 00:58:24,280 Speaker 1: it is, maybe it isn't, And don't put the pressure 1083 00:58:24,280 --> 00:58:27,680 Speaker 1: on it the public to say even if it's positive 1084 00:58:27,720 --> 00:58:29,600 Speaker 1: to say a great couple, your love this or that, 1085 00:58:29,840 --> 00:58:33,560 Speaker 1: or no it's not good, or just let it happen organically, 1086 00:58:34,280 --> 00:58:36,800 Speaker 1: let it happen naturally. Yeah, don't put too much pressure. 1087 00:58:37,000 --> 00:58:41,280 Speaker 1: Pressure is heard relationship Well. The Bachelor Life Tour is 1088 00:58:41,280 --> 00:58:44,640 Speaker 1: coming back. Bachelor Live on Stage tour returns with seven 1089 00:58:44,960 --> 00:58:49,080 Speaker 1: fan favorite men looking for love. I was able to 1090 00:58:49,080 --> 00:58:52,760 Speaker 1: co host this tour right before COVID. Now I'm married 1091 00:58:53,160 --> 00:58:55,240 Speaker 1: and I have a puppy, and so I'm gonna be 1092 00:58:55,320 --> 00:58:57,280 Speaker 1: unable to hit the road with the tour this year. 1093 00:58:57,320 --> 00:58:59,440 Speaker 1: But Beckett Cokufern, who was my co host back in 1094 00:58:59,440 --> 00:59:02,080 Speaker 1: the day, is gonna be to hosting this tour. She's 1095 00:59:02,120 --> 00:59:05,360 Speaker 1: great at it. She's gonna thrive. But according to People, 1096 00:59:06,600 --> 00:59:10,640 Speaker 1: Rick Leach from season eighteen, Connor Brennan from season seventeen, 1097 00:59:10,920 --> 00:59:15,480 Speaker 1: Ivan Hall from season sixteen, Justin Glaze from season eighteen, 1098 00:59:16,200 --> 00:59:21,200 Speaker 1: Our seventeen, Andrew Spencer from season seventeen, and Rodney Matthews 1099 00:59:21,280 --> 00:59:24,840 Speaker 1: from season eighteen will be handing out roses at different 1100 00:59:24,840 --> 00:59:30,720 Speaker 1: spots on the tour as it crosses America. Claire any comments, 1101 00:59:32,120 --> 00:59:33,920 Speaker 1: I mean, good for them. Get it out there and 1102 00:59:33,920 --> 00:59:36,080 Speaker 1: put it out there. Why not this is these are 1103 00:59:36,160 --> 00:59:40,400 Speaker 1: regular people. As much as like we've talked about their celebrities, 1104 00:59:40,400 --> 00:59:43,080 Speaker 1: studo celebrities have been on TV. These are normal people 1105 00:59:43,080 --> 00:59:46,080 Speaker 1: wanting to date. So good for them, Good for them. 1106 00:59:46,280 --> 00:59:49,880 Speaker 1: I agree. Well, a couple more headlines here. Last one 1107 00:59:49,920 --> 00:59:52,320 Speaker 1: headline that will just skim through because there's the more 1108 00:59:52,360 --> 00:59:57,320 Speaker 1: we talk about, the more I heard. Uh. Lauren Burnham 1109 00:59:57,480 --> 01:00:01,080 Speaker 1: says it was awkward watching our a Liondyke junior is 1110 01:00:01,160 --> 01:00:05,000 Speaker 1: vasectomy no dubh. That sounds like one of the weirdest 1111 01:00:05,000 --> 01:00:10,320 Speaker 1: things to have to be watching. It. Sounds like she 1112 01:00:10,480 --> 01:00:13,680 Speaker 1: was a part of the experience. Uh yeah, it was 1113 01:00:13,800 --> 01:00:16,720 Speaker 1: very awkward for for her, She says. Um, I don't 1114 01:00:16,720 --> 01:00:20,240 Speaker 1: think she like watched the incision, but I think she 1115 01:00:20,320 --> 01:00:22,000 Speaker 1: was probably in the room or near the room, it 1116 01:00:22,040 --> 01:00:27,120 Speaker 1: sounds like, and probably could hear. Um. You know, it's 1117 01:00:27,160 --> 01:00:31,400 Speaker 1: just not a fun surgery. I hope she didn't want. Yeah, 1118 01:00:31,480 --> 01:00:36,040 Speaker 1: that's that's what I need. That just feels that feels hard. 1119 01:00:36,440 --> 01:00:39,880 Speaker 1: Um headline here. Tasha Adams breaks her silence on leaving 1120 01:00:39,880 --> 01:00:43,480 Speaker 1: the clickbait podcast. The comments she says is I need 1121 01:00:43,520 --> 01:00:48,960 Speaker 1: to work on myself. Clara read through here the the article, 1122 01:00:49,640 --> 01:00:51,760 Speaker 1: then see if you have any comment. Tasha Adams is 1123 01:00:51,760 --> 01:00:54,520 Speaker 1: opening up about what prompted her to leave her role 1124 01:00:54,560 --> 01:00:58,640 Speaker 1: as co host on Bachelor Nations Clickbait podcast. The California 1125 01:00:58,760 --> 01:01:01,680 Speaker 1: native later gave more insight into her decision during the 1126 01:01:01,720 --> 01:01:05,800 Speaker 1: Clickbait episode Guess Who It's Me Tasha, She says, dang it, 1127 01:01:05,840 --> 01:01:10,160 Speaker 1: I really miss saying that the season sixteen co bachelorette 1128 01:01:10,920 --> 01:01:12,960 Speaker 1: comments and says she needs to take some time to 1129 01:01:13,040 --> 01:01:18,760 Speaker 1: work on herself. She's stepping away from Clickbait, also saying 1130 01:01:18,760 --> 01:01:23,200 Speaker 1: that it's in very, very capable hands with Joe and 1131 01:01:23,400 --> 01:01:28,840 Speaker 1: Natasha and welcoming Tia to replace Tasha as co host. 1132 01:01:29,880 --> 01:01:35,360 Speaker 1: So she's emotional, she's not thrilled. She spoke her piece 1133 01:01:35,400 --> 01:01:38,240 Speaker 1: at this point, and one day, she says, when she 1134 01:01:38,280 --> 01:01:41,000 Speaker 1: has more to say, she'll speak up about it. Clear 1135 01:01:41,000 --> 01:01:45,520 Speaker 1: any comments like this girl has done so much work 1136 01:01:45,560 --> 01:01:48,040 Speaker 1: over the last couple of years, and I feel like 1137 01:01:48,080 --> 01:01:52,120 Speaker 1: cirtation has just been NonStop, which is all good, positive things. 1138 01:01:52,160 --> 01:01:54,440 Speaker 1: But I think I think it's the right move for her. 1139 01:01:54,440 --> 01:01:58,320 Speaker 1: I think it's a good move because she's just going, going, 1140 01:01:58,400 --> 01:02:00,880 Speaker 1: going and doing big things, and so for her to 1141 01:02:00,920 --> 01:02:03,120 Speaker 1: take a step back and really process a lot of you, 1142 01:02:03,480 --> 01:02:06,200 Speaker 1: a lot of it. I think it catches up with you, 1143 01:02:06,320 --> 01:02:09,280 Speaker 1: and I think, um, I believe Hannah Brown did it 1144 01:02:09,320 --> 01:02:10,920 Speaker 1: as well, like you kind of have to take a 1145 01:02:10,960 --> 01:02:15,800 Speaker 1: step back and recenter yourself. So I think that's really 1146 01:02:15,880 --> 01:02:19,800 Speaker 1: smart things she could do. Yeah, it's I agree. At 1147 01:02:19,840 --> 01:02:22,800 Speaker 1: some point you can run so fast and that race 1148 01:02:23,000 --> 01:02:28,160 Speaker 1: becomes exhausting, and especially as you're trying to work on yourself. 1149 01:02:29,080 --> 01:02:31,400 Speaker 1: You know, I know for me, and you know when 1150 01:02:31,440 --> 01:02:33,160 Speaker 1: I was when I was in it, you know, when 1151 01:02:33,200 --> 01:02:35,040 Speaker 1: I was running, I felt like a robot. At times. 1152 01:02:35,240 --> 01:02:37,720 Speaker 1: I felt like I was just an answering machine to 1153 01:02:37,760 --> 01:02:40,320 Speaker 1: anybody's requests. And I could, you know, stand up and 1154 01:02:40,320 --> 01:02:41,760 Speaker 1: say the right thing at the right moment or do 1155 01:02:41,800 --> 01:02:43,680 Speaker 1: the right thing at the right moment to fulfill a 1156 01:02:43,760 --> 01:02:48,000 Speaker 1: need of somebody else. But all within that you're losing yourself. 1157 01:02:48,040 --> 01:02:50,320 Speaker 1: And some people are great at it, like, uh, you know, 1158 01:02:50,360 --> 01:02:52,840 Speaker 1: I'd be really excited too after this is well done. 1159 01:02:52,840 --> 01:02:54,880 Speaker 1: To talk to Caitlin Bristow, who has been running a 1160 01:02:54,960 --> 01:02:57,760 Speaker 1: hundred miles an hour for a long time now, she 1161 01:02:57,840 --> 01:02:59,680 Speaker 1: might be able to handle it. She kind of seems 1162 01:02:59,680 --> 01:03:01,480 Speaker 1: like she is. She has fun with it, she loves it. 1163 01:03:01,560 --> 01:03:04,400 Speaker 1: She enjoys it, but I wasn't. And it sounds like 1164 01:03:04,400 --> 01:03:06,520 Speaker 1: Tasia just need to take some time too. It sounds 1165 01:03:06,520 --> 01:03:08,600 Speaker 1: like kind of brown. It sounds like you did everybody 1166 01:03:08,600 --> 01:03:11,080 Speaker 1: you know, most people do. It takes a special human 1167 01:03:11,680 --> 01:03:13,680 Speaker 1: to go as fast as you know, Tastia and Caitlin, 1168 01:03:13,680 --> 01:03:18,440 Speaker 1: we're going, I think, doing everything, and it's wonderful stuff 1169 01:03:18,480 --> 01:03:20,959 Speaker 1: to be a part of. But some I think it's 1170 01:03:21,000 --> 01:03:26,439 Speaker 1: also a very easy distraction. And clearly Tassia has gone 1171 01:03:26,440 --> 01:03:31,919 Speaker 1: through unfortunate breakup. Um, regardless of the circumstances, they're never fun, 1172 01:03:32,200 --> 01:03:34,960 Speaker 1: public or not public, it's they're never fun. So to 1173 01:03:35,000 --> 01:03:38,120 Speaker 1: take time away to work on herself and to work 1174 01:03:38,160 --> 01:03:40,280 Speaker 1: on and focus on what she needs to I think 1175 01:03:40,360 --> 01:03:44,600 Speaker 1: that's literally the best thing she could do, because facing 1176 01:03:44,640 --> 01:03:47,240 Speaker 1: things is almost harder than to keep going going on 1177 01:03:47,240 --> 01:03:50,600 Speaker 1: and going going easy, to keep going, going, going, going, going, 1178 01:03:50,800 --> 01:03:52,520 Speaker 1: But when you really have to sit with yourself and 1179 01:03:52,560 --> 01:03:55,040 Speaker 1: have that time, it's it's the hardest thing, but the 1180 01:03:55,040 --> 01:03:57,640 Speaker 1: best thing. Yeah, well, wish and Tastia the best as 1181 01:03:57,680 --> 01:03:59,680 Speaker 1: she does step away, takes a break, yes, and then 1182 01:03:59,760 --> 01:04:02,320 Speaker 1: we'll you know, that's uh, that's the job of some 1183 01:04:02,360 --> 01:04:04,080 Speaker 1: people behind the scenes here We'll see if she ever 1184 01:04:04,120 --> 01:04:06,440 Speaker 1: comes back and talks more in detail about why she 1185 01:04:06,520 --> 01:04:08,360 Speaker 1: left Clickbait, and it could just be that she needs 1186 01:04:08,360 --> 01:04:10,960 Speaker 1: a break, which is fine. Well, Claire, that's all we 1187 01:04:11,000 --> 01:04:13,959 Speaker 1: got for today. That's our episode of Almost Famous. Thank 1188 01:04:13,960 --> 01:04:16,320 Speaker 1: you for joining me, and thank you so much for 1189 01:04:16,400 --> 01:04:18,160 Speaker 1: taking the time to sit down and share about your 1190 01:04:18,200 --> 01:04:21,680 Speaker 1: personal life with me and everybody listening. I know it's 1191 01:04:21,680 --> 01:04:23,040 Speaker 1: not always fun or I deal, and I know you 1192 01:04:23,040 --> 01:04:25,040 Speaker 1: get asked about all the time, but it does mean 1193 01:04:25,040 --> 01:04:28,720 Speaker 1: a lot for you to open up to all of us. No, 1194 01:04:29,000 --> 01:04:30,960 Speaker 1: thank you for having me. I think it's one of 1195 01:04:31,400 --> 01:04:32,960 Speaker 1: could be a blessing and a curse to be able 1196 01:04:33,000 --> 01:04:34,880 Speaker 1: to share so much. But at the end of the day, 1197 01:04:34,960 --> 01:04:37,960 Speaker 1: I love opening up and sharing because I think with 1198 01:04:38,000 --> 01:04:40,600 Speaker 1: everything that we go through, there's even if there's one 1199 01:04:40,640 --> 01:04:42,440 Speaker 1: person out there that can connect and relate to it 1200 01:04:42,480 --> 01:04:45,680 Speaker 1: and understand what you're going through, um, it can make 1201 01:04:45,840 --> 01:04:47,880 Speaker 1: make their day better. So I'm happy to be part 1202 01:04:47,880 --> 01:04:49,320 Speaker 1: of this kind of stuff, and and thank you for 1203 01:04:49,360 --> 01:04:53,200 Speaker 1: having me on. We did great, now, Claire. Some people 1204 01:04:53,240 --> 01:04:56,800 Speaker 1: get this right, some people get this terribly wrong, but 1205 01:04:56,880 --> 01:05:00,440 Speaker 1: it's good either way. Follow my lead with that, everybody, 1206 01:05:00,480 --> 01:05:02,280 Speaker 1: this has Been The Almost Famous Podcast. We'll be back 1207 01:05:02,320 --> 01:05:05,280 Speaker 1: next week to break down another episode of this season's 1208 01:05:05,600 --> 01:05:09,919 Speaker 1: uh well Clayton's season of the Bachelor. With that I've 1209 01:05:09,960 --> 01:05:13,640 Speaker 1: Been Been, I have Been Claire perfect Hey, we'll talk 1210 01:05:13,680 --> 01:05:17,440 Speaker 1: to you next week. Follow the Benn and Ashley I 1211 01:05:17,640 --> 01:05:21,120 Speaker 1: Almost Famous Podcast on I Heart Radio or subscribe wherever 1212 01:05:21,200 --> 01:05:22,360 Speaker 1: you listen to podcasts.