WEBVTT - 016 Rich on Tech Radio Show - April 22, 2023 0:00:00.360 --> 0:00:04.800 After twenty five years, Netflix says goodbye to the DVD. 0:00:05.920 --> 0:00:10.800 Twitter goes back to the basics the new EV with 0:00:11.000 --> 0:00:14.920 no rear window. We're not talking hitchcock here. Plus your 0:00:15.000 --> 0:00:18.960 tech questions answered? What is going on? I'm Rich Demiro 0:00:19.079 --> 0:00:21.079 and this is Rich on Tech, the show where I 0:00:21.120 --> 0:00:23.760 talk about the tech stuff I think you should know about. 0:00:24.360 --> 0:00:30.000 It's also the place where I answer your questions about technology. 0:00:30.200 --> 0:00:33.840 I'm the tech reporter at KTLA Channel five in Los Angeles. 0:00:33.920 --> 0:00:37.280 Welcome to the show. We've got Kim on phones, We've 0:00:37.280 --> 0:00:41.360 got Bobo on the board. Plus you phone lines are 0:00:41.440 --> 0:00:44.640 open at triple eight rich one oh one. 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And 0:01:52.920 --> 0:01:55.080 of course we went through the list of you know, 0:01:55.120 --> 0:01:58.720 going to like an amusement park, going bowling, this and that. 0:01:59.440 --> 0:02:01.480 None of those were but we did go to habachi, 0:02:01.800 --> 0:02:04.280 which I think is always a good, easy, kind of 0:02:04.320 --> 0:02:07.240 like enjoyable evening. And I've never been with just my 0:02:07.320 --> 0:02:10.320 son by ourselves, and we had a great time. And 0:02:10.480 --> 0:02:13.800 it got me to thinking two things. Number One, habachi 0:02:13.880 --> 0:02:16.000 is all about the chef that you get right, like 0:02:16.040 --> 0:02:18.640 they have to be into it. If they're not into it, 0:02:18.680 --> 0:02:21.040 and they're just kind of doing like the beating har 0:02:21.200 --> 0:02:23.600 and the you know, the throwing the shrimp at your 0:02:24.040 --> 0:02:25.760 head and all that stuff just kind of like okay, 0:02:25.919 --> 0:02:28.639 going through the motions it's not very fun. But this 0:02:28.680 --> 0:02:31.600 person we had last night was fantastic. Must have been 0:02:31.639 --> 0:02:34.360 brand new because he really enjoyed it, and so he 0:02:34.440 --> 0:02:36.760 was doing like the I feel like in California they 0:02:36.760 --> 0:02:39.760 banned that flaming volcano for a while, like they weren't 0:02:39.760 --> 0:02:41.840 allowed to use real fire, they were just using steam. 0:02:41.880 --> 0:02:44.040 And last night, oh it was the fire was back. 0:02:44.600 --> 0:02:45.400 So that was great. 0:02:45.400 --> 0:02:46.840 And then it got me to thinking, how come we 0:02:46.840 --> 0:02:49.520 don't tip this chef, like if I've been doing habachi 0:02:49.560 --> 0:02:52.160 wrong my whole life and not tipping the chef, because 0:02:52.160 --> 0:02:54.120 when it came to the end, of course you tipped 0:02:54.160 --> 0:02:56.760 the waiter, but I was like, should we be tipping 0:02:56.760 --> 0:02:58.800 this person anyway? So let me know if I was 0:02:58.800 --> 0:03:02.480 doing that wrong. I hope I'm not. But afterwards we 0:03:02.560 --> 0:03:05.120 went to pinball. I figured, you know what, let me 0:03:05.160 --> 0:03:08.079 introduce my kid to pinball. And so they've got a 0:03:08.120 --> 0:03:11.360 couple of places in Los Angeles that are restaurants that 0:03:11.400 --> 0:03:14.000 also have like a pinball room, and so we went 0:03:14.000 --> 0:03:16.600 to this one restaurant that I actually heard about at 0:03:16.639 --> 0:03:19.720 CES this year, and the person told me, oh, yeah, 0:03:19.800 --> 0:03:21.920 you live in La go to this It's a Korean 0:03:21.960 --> 0:03:24.680 barbecue place. That also has a pin ball room, and 0:03:24.720 --> 0:03:28.280 I was like, what, They've got two locations in Los Angeles, 0:03:28.760 --> 0:03:30.760 So we go to one of them. We make the 0:03:30.800 --> 0:03:33.960 trek there and I get there and the place is packed, 0:03:34.720 --> 0:03:37.680 but there are two pinball machines in the waiting area, 0:03:37.720 --> 0:03:40.560 and I'm like, you gotta be kidding me. This is 0:03:40.680 --> 0:03:44.000 the this is the pinball room that this person told 0:03:44.000 --> 0:03:47.280 me about. And thankfully I asked because we were going 0:03:47.320 --> 0:03:50.040 to walk right out, and I asked the host and 0:03:50.080 --> 0:03:51.920 they said, oh no, there's a whole room of pinball 0:03:51.960 --> 0:03:52.600 machines that way. 0:03:52.640 --> 0:03:53.280 So we walked past. 0:03:53.280 --> 0:03:57.160 This restaurant was just filled with people grilling meats at 0:03:57.200 --> 0:03:59.680 their tables. I have not done that yet, but one 0:03:59.720 --> 0:04:03.160 of these days. And we get to this room and 0:04:03.360 --> 0:04:05.080 sure enough, I don't know, there must have been twenty 0:04:05.080 --> 0:04:08.160 pinball machines in there. And of course I'm expecting these 0:04:08.200 --> 0:04:11.520 pinball machines to be overpriced and expensive and this and that, 0:04:12.000 --> 0:04:14.440 and they weren't. They were very reasonable fifty cents a game. 0:04:14.840 --> 0:04:17.680 So we got change and we played pinball and it 0:04:17.800 --> 0:04:20.120 was so much fun because pinball is like, it's not 0:04:20.279 --> 0:04:23.360 really that high tech, but it kind of is. Because 0:04:23.400 --> 0:04:26.800 this company that makes these pinball machines, Stern Pinball. They're 0:04:26.800 --> 0:04:29.120 the ones that actually told me about this place. At 0:04:29.160 --> 0:04:33.280 CS they actually have on pinball machines where you can 0:04:33.400 --> 0:04:36.000 scan a QR coach. So you join this club they 0:04:36.040 --> 0:04:39.080 call it the let's see, it's called the Insider Connected. 0:04:39.520 --> 0:04:42.080 And so you join this club. And what's cool about 0:04:42.080 --> 0:04:45.400 it is that they actually keep your score not only 0:04:45.440 --> 0:04:50.200 across that machine, but across a leaderboard that is local 0:04:50.320 --> 0:04:52.920 but also national. So in the corner of the room 0:04:52.960 --> 0:04:56.640 there's a screen that has everyone's scores from like across 0:04:56.680 --> 0:04:58.760 the nation or maybe worldwide, who knows. 0:04:59.320 --> 0:05:00.560 So I thought that was kind of cool. 0:05:00.680 --> 0:05:03.240 I did not get on the leader board, but kind 0:05:03.240 --> 0:05:06.560 of neat that now they keep score in various ways, 0:05:06.600 --> 0:05:09.719 your personal score and also how you compare to people 0:05:09.720 --> 0:05:12.480 that are playing these games across the nation. If you 0:05:12.520 --> 0:05:14.599 want to check out what it looked like in there, 0:05:14.640 --> 0:05:16.560 I put it on my Instagram. At rich On Tech 0:05:16.560 --> 0:05:18.560 we had a blast, and then of course my son 0:05:18.640 --> 0:05:20.679 convinced me to go to Walmart, and I said, please 0:05:20.720 --> 0:05:22.880 do not make me go into Walmart, because I'm just 0:05:22.960 --> 0:05:26.040 gonna spend money that I don't need to spend. And 0:05:26.160 --> 0:05:29.360 sure enough, we go into Walmart, and right off the bat, 0:05:29.760 --> 0:05:31.200 it's like, I don't want to get one of those 0:05:31.240 --> 0:05:33.240 carts because I'm just gonna put stuff in there, and 0:05:33.480 --> 0:05:36.200 we ended up buying a whole bunch of stuff. Walmart, 0:05:36.240 --> 0:05:40.000 by the way, the last holdout I think in America 0:05:40.560 --> 0:05:43.280 that does not do tap to pay. I'm going to 0:05:43.320 --> 0:05:45.479 talk about tap to pay in a little bit later 0:05:45.480 --> 0:05:48.480 in the show about some of the quirks of tap 0:05:48.520 --> 0:05:52.080 to pay. But Kroger, which is the big grocery company 0:05:52.080 --> 0:05:54.680 that owns like grocery stores in every city in America, 0:05:54.720 --> 0:05:58.280 including Ralph's here locally in Los Angeles and probably a 0:05:58.279 --> 0:06:02.400 grocery store near you, they finally broke down and accepted 0:06:02.440 --> 0:06:04.880 Apple pay. Now, I've not been in the Ralphs to 0:06:04.880 --> 0:06:08.840 confirm this, but I tweeted it and many people confirm that, yes, 0:06:09.680 --> 0:06:13.000 Ralphs finally takes tap to pay, So thank you. Ralph's 0:06:13.640 --> 0:06:17.480 one of the last holdouts. You can go almost anywhere now, 0:06:17.520 --> 0:06:19.279 I think, and do tap to pay, even at the 0:06:19.279 --> 0:06:21.440 Habachi place. I was talking about this on last week's 0:06:21.440 --> 0:06:24.200 show or the week before. How in Hawaii a lot 0:06:24.200 --> 0:06:28.280 of the restaurants are using that handheld kind of tablet 0:06:28.279 --> 0:06:31.040 to take your order but also let you pay from 0:06:31.120 --> 0:06:34.240 your table. And sure enough Habachi place we went to 0:06:34.480 --> 0:06:36.960 was doing that as well, and so I love it. 0:06:36.960 --> 0:06:37.880 It's just so much better. 0:06:37.920 --> 0:06:40.960 Although I still think it's funny because the waiter took 0:06:41.000 --> 0:06:43.880 my card and tapped it for me, I was like, 0:06:44.760 --> 0:06:45.400 I'm pretty sure. 0:06:45.400 --> 0:06:46.760 I think I can do that myself. 0:06:48.480 --> 0:06:48.680 Ah. 0:06:49.000 --> 0:06:53.080 This week, Twitter finally made good. And I said, I 0:06:53.080 --> 0:06:55.320 wasn't gonna talk about Twitter a lot on this show 0:06:55.400 --> 0:06:57.600 because there's a lot of gossip and a lot of 0:06:57.680 --> 0:07:00.840 just like the dust hasn't settled around Twitter, So I 0:07:00.880 --> 0:07:04.279 wasn't going to follow all the tiny nuances of Twitter 0:07:04.560 --> 0:07:07.159 as Elon took over and all the stuff, the ups 0:07:07.240 --> 0:07:09.000 and the downs. But I do think this is a 0:07:09.000 --> 0:07:12.000 big deal. So Twitter this week and Elon Musk made 0:07:12.000 --> 0:07:15.080 good on his promise to get rid of the blue 0:07:15.200 --> 0:07:18.560 check mark, and the blue check mark for legacy folks. 0:07:18.720 --> 0:07:21.400 They still have it, but I'll explain the blue check 0:07:21.400 --> 0:07:25.080 mark for legacy folks like myself, and that blue check 0:07:25.120 --> 0:07:29.320 mark meant that you were verified. This meant that you 0:07:29.840 --> 0:07:32.000 went through some sort of process to get that blue 0:07:32.080 --> 0:07:34.040 check mark. People knew when you saw Rich on Tech. 0:07:34.120 --> 0:07:37.800 On Twitter, I was who I say I am. Now 0:07:37.840 --> 0:07:42.400 they have stripped that from pretty much everyone unless you 0:07:42.560 --> 0:07:45.200 pay eight dollars a month for the privilege of having 0:07:45.200 --> 0:07:48.760 a blue check mark in the Twitter Blue program. Now 0:07:48.760 --> 0:07:51.240 they call this verified, but it is anything, but it 0:07:51.360 --> 0:07:54.040 means absolutely nothing at this point. So when you're scrolling 0:07:54.080 --> 0:07:57.360 Twitter and you see a blue check mark, that means nothing. 0:07:57.840 --> 0:08:00.240 All it means is that that person is paying to 0:08:00.280 --> 0:08:03.080 get that check mark. Yes, they have verified the fact 0:08:03.120 --> 0:08:05.040 that they have a credit card and a phone number 0:08:05.360 --> 0:08:08.280 and an email address, but that's it. That person is 0:08:08.280 --> 0:08:11.800 not necessarily who they say they are. Now, why is 0:08:11.840 --> 0:08:15.760 this a problem. It's a problem because anyone can now 0:08:16.120 --> 0:08:19.360 make a username like rich on tech with two h's, 0:08:19.920 --> 0:08:22.520 get the verification, get the blue check mark, and when 0:08:22.560 --> 0:08:26.120 you're scrolling through now it looks like that's me. And 0:08:26.320 --> 0:08:29.280 this presents a lot of problems because you can no 0:08:29.360 --> 0:08:33.280 longer trust what you're seeing at a glance. And this 0:08:33.320 --> 0:08:36.240 is a problem we're seeing with the tech world at 0:08:36.320 --> 0:08:42.079 large right now, with AI and AI created images and 0:08:42.360 --> 0:08:43.840 videos and audio. 0:08:44.679 --> 0:08:46.360 At this point, we just. 0:08:46.360 --> 0:08:50.080 Don't know what's real anymore, and it's going to be 0:08:50.160 --> 0:08:54.120 a big, big problem and so Twitter with people like 0:08:54.160 --> 0:08:56.160 myself you could see that blue check mark and you 0:08:56.240 --> 0:08:56.840 knew it was me. 0:08:57.160 --> 0:08:58.280 That's no longer the case. 0:08:58.640 --> 0:09:01.640 So my thesis there is just please, when you're scrolling 0:09:01.679 --> 0:09:04.719 through Twitter, if you're continuing to use it, which at 0:09:04.720 --> 0:09:09.760 this point I'm on the fence, just beware or be weary, 0:09:09.800 --> 0:09:13.679 I guess, because you just don't know. And already this 0:09:13.760 --> 0:09:17.400 has presented problems. People are, you know, quoting things, and 0:09:17.760 --> 0:09:20.640 journalists use Twitter a lot to find sources and to 0:09:20.679 --> 0:09:23.840 get official statements and things like that. But you know, 0:09:24.160 --> 0:09:27.200 I don't know what the National park Service official Twitter is, 0:09:27.240 --> 0:09:30.199 do you no? But if I searched National Park Service 0:09:30.200 --> 0:09:32.040 and I saw that blue check mark and go, oh okay, 0:09:32.320 --> 0:09:35.120 that's the National Park Service, now I may not know 0:09:35.400 --> 0:09:37.040 because there is no blue check mark. 0:09:37.559 --> 0:09:41.080 So just be be aware. Ah. 0:09:41.080 --> 0:09:44.320 But yeah, that was a big change. Snapchat big week 0:09:44.360 --> 0:09:48.600 this week for Snapchat. Went to their event Snapchat. I 0:09:48.600 --> 0:09:50.439 think this was the first time I've ever been invited 0:09:50.440 --> 0:09:53.679 to a Snapchat event, and they held it in Los Angeles, 0:09:53.679 --> 0:09:58.839 where Snapchat is headquartered, and it was a preview night, 0:09:58.880 --> 0:10:00.800 so it was like a press night where I went 0:10:00.840 --> 0:10:02.480 to and then it was the big event at the 0:10:03.000 --> 0:10:05.360 a place called the Barker Hanger. It's this big, giant 0:10:05.440 --> 0:10:09.400 like hangar next to an airfield. And it's interesting because 0:10:09.400 --> 0:10:11.440 I've been to so many tech events over the years. 0:10:11.480 --> 0:10:13.360 I've been to Apple, I've been to Google, I've been 0:10:13.400 --> 0:10:16.800 to Samsung, so many companies that have thrown these things, 0:10:16.800 --> 0:10:19.480 and they each do it in a different way, but 0:10:19.720 --> 0:10:23.160 the common theme is that they are showing off what 0:10:23.240 --> 0:10:26.160 they're doing in the best possible light. And the reason 0:10:26.200 --> 0:10:28.079 why I like to be there is because I get 0:10:28.120 --> 0:10:30.520 to go hands on with this stuff before anyone else 0:10:30.840 --> 0:10:33.560 and see how it really works. So, for instance, they 0:10:33.600 --> 0:10:36.760 showed off a vending machine that is in partnership with 0:10:36.800 --> 0:10:41.320 Coca Cola that is augmented reality powered, and so I 0:10:41.360 --> 0:10:42.280 got to test that out. 0:10:42.320 --> 0:10:45.320 It's cool, but is it groundbreaking. I'm not sure. We'll see. 0:10:45.640 --> 0:10:47.640 I also got to try out these magic mirrors they 0:10:47.640 --> 0:10:50.560 have where you can try and close in stores with 0:10:51.440 --> 0:10:54.600 augmented reality, and it's cool. And again, you're gonna see 0:10:54.600 --> 0:10:56.199 a lot of news about this stuff, and we'll talk 0:10:56.200 --> 0:10:58.679 about it more later in the show. But it's one 0:10:58.720 --> 0:11:00.680 of these things where I got to try out because 0:11:00.920 --> 0:11:02.920 unless you can go to a men's warehouse where they're 0:11:02.960 --> 0:11:06.040 testing it here in Los Angeles, one location. You're probably 0:11:06.040 --> 0:11:07.960 not going to see this thing for a bit, and 0:11:08.000 --> 0:11:10.120 so it's kind of cool. And it all leads into 0:11:10.160 --> 0:11:12.760 this kind of knowledge that I have about technology that 0:11:12.840 --> 0:11:14.800 helps me figure out what's important to you. And it 0:11:14.840 --> 0:11:17.360 goes back to this show. The show where I talk 0:11:17.400 --> 0:11:19.240 about the tech stuff I think you should know about. 0:11:19.559 --> 0:11:22.920 And so by getting a handle on this stuff, that's 0:11:22.920 --> 0:11:24.960 how I know to talk about and give you that 0:11:25.040 --> 0:11:28.360 perspective of what's important and what's changing. And there's a 0:11:28.440 --> 0:11:31.599 lot of it. So I'll talk more about Snapchat and 0:11:31.640 --> 0:11:33.600 a little bit. I think one of the coolest things 0:11:33.600 --> 0:11:35.920 they did is they put this AI in everyone's pocket. 0:11:36.000 --> 0:11:38.480 So if you've heard about chat GPT, they made a 0:11:38.559 --> 0:11:41.920 chatbot that is now open to anyone in the Snapchat app. 0:11:42.320 --> 0:11:44.800 So if you have Snapchat installed on your phone, open 0:11:44.840 --> 0:11:47.840 it up and you have this thing called my AI 0:11:48.480 --> 0:11:50.400 and it's a chatbot. It's kind of like a friend 0:11:50.520 --> 0:11:53.160 that's always there, always on. You can chat with it. 0:11:53.160 --> 0:11:54.840 I've been chatting with it for the past couple of 0:11:54.840 --> 0:11:58.120 weeks and it's wild. You can ask it anything. Should 0:11:58.160 --> 0:11:59.920 I go to the gym after work? Should I go 0:12:00.080 --> 0:12:02.520 to a movie? What movie should I see? Where should 0:12:02.559 --> 0:12:07.400 I eat? But they do lie, They really lie right 0:12:07.440 --> 0:12:09.800 through their teeth, so be careful. They don't mean to 0:12:09.800 --> 0:12:12.720 do it, but they call it hallucination. They just make 0:12:12.760 --> 0:12:15.000 stuff up. And this morning I asked her a question 0:12:15.040 --> 0:12:18.000 and just made up an answer. So pretty wild there, 0:12:18.800 --> 0:12:21.000 all right, We got lots coming up on today's show. 0:12:21.280 --> 0:12:25.319 Netflix after twenty five years is saying goodbye to the DVD. 0:12:26.320 --> 0:12:29.080 Got great guests this week. Jasmine Enberg is gonna join me. 0:12:29.200 --> 0:12:32.880 She's gonna break down Snapchat's announcements. We've got the father 0:12:33.080 --> 0:12:36.200 of the smartphone, Marty Cooper is going to join me live, 0:12:36.640 --> 0:12:38.560 and later we're going to talk to David Koff of 0:12:38.679 --> 0:12:42.480 Tech Talk about how to remove your personal information from 0:12:42.480 --> 0:12:44.600 the Internet. I see it already. The phone lines are 0:12:44.600 --> 0:12:47.199 opening up. Your call's coming up next at Triple eight. 0:12:47.679 --> 0:12:50.880 Welcome back to rich On Tech. Rich Demiro here hanging 0:12:50.920 --> 0:12:55.760 out with you, talking technology. And if you listen to 0:12:55.760 --> 0:13:00.720 this show a lot more, it's not just tech. Well 0:13:00.760 --> 0:13:02.760 it is mostly tech, but you know it's also whatever 0:13:02.800 --> 0:13:04.680 I feel like. It is the rich On Tech Show, 0:13:04.760 --> 0:13:08.120 So you know, there is that Liberty. There Phone lines 0:13:08.120 --> 0:13:11.040 are open at triple eight rich one O one eight 0:13:11.160 --> 0:13:15.160 eight eight seven four to two, four to one zero one. 0:13:15.240 --> 0:13:18.880 If you have a question about technology, trying to decide something, 0:13:19.120 --> 0:13:22.040 trying to figure something out, trying to find an app 0:13:22.080 --> 0:13:25.160 for something, a solution, just give me a call Triple 0:13:25.200 --> 0:13:28.040 eight rich one on one eight eight eight seven four 0:13:28.120 --> 0:13:31.400 to two four one zero one. That phone number is 0:13:31.480 --> 0:13:36.560 also on the website Rich on tech dot TV. Jeff 0:13:36.800 --> 0:13:39.200 is in California. Jeff, you're on with Rich. 0:13:40.679 --> 0:13:42.920 Hey, Rich, Yeah, I wanted to ask you. I think 0:13:42.920 --> 0:13:45.280 you've seen a lot of things on Twitter and I'm 0:13:45.320 --> 0:13:49.320 beginning a lot of Google ads about this new biometric 0:13:49.440 --> 0:13:54.880 handgun that supposedly reads your fingerprints or poem. Remember like 0:13:55.000 --> 0:13:57.400 in what was this Stillon movie where the gun could 0:13:57.480 --> 0:14:00.679 he could only shoot the gun. Yeah, it's basically that 0:14:00.840 --> 0:14:01.880 somebody came up with that. 0:14:02.120 --> 0:14:03.480 And I was. 0:14:03.760 --> 0:14:07.760 Wondering, is it too soon to bring out a technology 0:14:07.840 --> 0:14:10.560 like this or you know, like is it kind of 0:14:10.559 --> 0:14:13.800 an AI thing or what's your opinion? 0:14:14.800 --> 0:14:16.800 Well, I mean this has been talked about for a 0:14:16.840 --> 0:14:19.720 long time. I mean I haven't you know, I haven't 0:14:19.760 --> 0:14:23.840 seen the Instagram ads, but they're definitely. This technology has 0:14:23.880 --> 0:14:26.720 been talked about for a really long time. But I 0:14:26.760 --> 0:14:29.960 think there's some challenges. I mean, you know, obviously it's 0:14:29.960 --> 0:14:33.440 not a perfect technology. Some people might think it's slower 0:14:33.480 --> 0:14:37.960 than you know, standard technology for a gun. You know, 0:14:38.040 --> 0:14:41.160 it's more expensive. Of course, do you have to charge 0:14:41.160 --> 0:14:44.480 this thing? I mean, obviously there's probably charging involved. So 0:14:44.560 --> 0:14:46.320 I think there's a lot of pros and cons. But 0:14:46.360 --> 0:14:48.960 I think, you know, the pros obviously are the safety 0:14:49.000 --> 0:14:52.400 aspects that only the owner would be able to use 0:14:52.440 --> 0:14:55.360 this device, and I think that's the biggest appeal to 0:14:55.440 --> 0:14:59.200 a lot of people. But you know, Jeff, by asking 0:14:59.240 --> 0:15:01.840 this question that the are going to be people on 0:15:01.960 --> 0:15:06.360 both sides of this in a very very profound way. 0:15:06.440 --> 0:15:07.560 What are your thoughts on it? 0:15:07.680 --> 0:15:07.800 Oh? 0:15:07.920 --> 0:15:12.480 Yeah, well, I like the idea from a safety aspect. 0:15:12.760 --> 0:15:17.280 I'm in the firms industry, and uh I look at 0:15:17.320 --> 0:15:21.640 it as I don't know if it's something that it's 0:15:21.720 --> 0:15:27.280 they're trying to fix a problem that isn't really a 0:15:27.320 --> 0:15:32.440 problem yet. I say that uh in that uh they're 0:15:32.480 --> 0:15:38.880 trying to uh market a gun to your Uh. Non 0:15:39.920 --> 0:15:42.120 the people that say I'll never have a gun in 0:15:42.160 --> 0:15:45.040 my house because it's too dangerous. They're trying to get 0:15:45.080 --> 0:15:49.440 to that market because anybody who really wants to have 0:15:49.480 --> 0:15:54.880 a gun should always get training, uh and other education 0:15:55.720 --> 0:15:57.720 before even purchasing the gun. 0:15:58.040 --> 0:16:01.240 Right, So I guess that I guess that that begs 0:16:01.240 --> 0:16:03.240 the question. Then it's like, then who is this for? 0:16:03.440 --> 0:16:06.400 Because if you, okay, let me put myself in these shoes. 0:16:06.440 --> 0:16:08.400 So if I if I am a gun advocate and 0:16:08.400 --> 0:16:10.440 I have a gun, and I you know, I train 0:16:10.520 --> 0:16:14.240 and I get this thing, I I probably believe that 0:16:14.560 --> 0:16:16.400 I'm gonna take care of this thing in a certain 0:16:16.440 --> 0:16:18.240 way that nobody else is going to get access to 0:16:18.280 --> 0:16:20.360 that gun, and nobody else will be able to have 0:16:20.400 --> 0:16:25.120 that and I don't need this feature on that right exactly. 0:16:25.160 --> 0:16:27.240 It's just like the people who are saying, well, I 0:16:27.240 --> 0:16:30.160 don't need to go learn how to drive because the. 0:16:30.280 --> 0:16:33.960 Tesla will drive for me, which by the way, is 0:16:34.000 --> 0:16:34.520 not true. 0:16:34.560 --> 0:16:38.200 We know that we know that the Tesla does not drive, 0:16:38.280 --> 0:16:39.160 and so and so again. 0:16:40.320 --> 0:16:44.040 Yeah, and so I see your point. Yeah, it's a mentality. 0:16:45.200 --> 0:16:47.640 Well, I mean do you think Look, I think that 0:16:47.680 --> 0:16:50.080 there there are so many issues when it comes to 0:16:50.120 --> 0:16:54.200 firearms that people are either very for them or very 0:16:54.240 --> 0:16:58.280 against them. I think that technology has ways of helping 0:16:59.000 --> 0:17:04.560 various industries. I would say, you know, maybe this technology 0:17:05.200 --> 0:17:08.080 or a version of it, if it was inexpensive enough, 0:17:08.640 --> 0:17:11.960 could work for certain types of firearms. 0:17:12.880 --> 0:17:13.800 But I don't know. 0:17:13.880 --> 0:17:15.520 I mean, it's just one of these things where it 0:17:15.680 --> 0:17:17.600 just seems like it's probably cost prohibitive. 0:17:19.520 --> 0:17:21.760 One of the things. Okay, because like one of the 0:17:21.760 --> 0:17:25.119 things I'm seeing is that people are coming in to 0:17:25.240 --> 0:17:29.679 buy firearms now, especially handguns. And these are the people 0:17:29.720 --> 0:17:37.119 who are the the White Mobile upward so forth that 0:17:37.280 --> 0:17:39.520 said before that I'll never have a gun in my house. 0:17:40.119 --> 0:17:42.479 They're not wanting to buy a gun because they're the 0:17:42.480 --> 0:17:45.440 only ones that haven't bought a gun yet in California, 0:17:46.480 --> 0:17:49.400 and they don't want to be you know, they they're 0:17:49.440 --> 0:17:52.800 considering it like it's the musical chairs. They don't want 0:17:52.800 --> 0:17:55.240 to be caught without one without a chair when the 0:17:55.320 --> 0:17:59.600 music stops and the Zombia poclyps, the marauders show up. 0:18:00.960 --> 0:18:03.520 The Uh all right, I got I got it, Jeff, 0:18:03.520 --> 0:18:05.400 I got to leave it there. They're they're playing me off. 0:18:05.440 --> 0:18:09.160 But great question. Uh, so many implications of that. Coming 0:18:09.240 --> 0:18:12.040 up next, we are going to talk more about snapchat 0:18:12.080 --> 0:18:15.840 and the implications of all of their announcements this week. 0:18:15.880 --> 0:18:22.920 You're listening to Rich on Tech. Welcome back to rich 0:18:23.000 --> 0:18:26.960 on Tech. Rich DeMuro here hanging out with you, talking technology. 0:18:27.880 --> 0:18:30.560 Let's go to Paul in Burbank. Paul, you're on with Rich. 0:18:31.400 --> 0:18:33.920 Hey, Rich, thank you for taking the call. 0:18:34.200 --> 0:18:37.080 Yeah, Hey, I work at one of the studios that've 0:18:37.080 --> 0:18:39.640 been with Mac tech for fifteen years. 0:18:39.680 --> 0:18:42.600 You shoed to work at Apple and have you. 0:18:42.600 --> 0:18:47.040 Seen the new system Preferences or Macawestern tour have I? 0:18:47.200 --> 0:18:47.440 Yes? 0:18:48.800 --> 0:18:51.119 Now, imagine having to work with that every day for 0:18:51.320 --> 0:18:53.399 you know, tons of issues and you got to keep 0:18:53.400 --> 0:18:55.439 trying to prowd through that. I know they're trying to 0:18:55.480 --> 0:18:59.560 do the mobile equivocal of the OS, but man oh Manette, 0:19:00.040 --> 0:19:03.720 Apple has really seemed to lost their way about the 0:19:03.760 --> 0:19:06.160 intuitiveness of their OS and their products. 0:19:06.480 --> 0:19:07.439 What do you think I. 0:19:07.400 --> 0:19:11.320 Would agree with that? I think, uh, I think it's 0:19:11.320 --> 0:19:13.720 all over the place at this point. And when specifically, 0:19:13.760 --> 0:19:15.919 the system preferences are where you go for all the 0:19:15.960 --> 0:19:18.840 settings and things on Mac. And it used to be 0:19:18.920 --> 0:19:21.879 one format which I thought was pretty easy to understand, 0:19:21.960 --> 0:19:23.719 and now it's just all over the place. It's in 0:19:23.720 --> 0:19:27.159 this list, it does not make any sense. I I 0:19:27.600 --> 0:19:30.080 you know, I just don't like it. And I'm sure 0:19:30.080 --> 0:19:32.040 that there's a lot of people, and you know, some 0:19:32.119 --> 0:19:34.720 of us. You know, people might say, oh, Paul and Rich, 0:19:34.760 --> 0:19:37.359 you just don't like change, But the reality. 0:19:37.000 --> 0:19:37.440 Is I don't. 0:19:38.960 --> 0:19:41.480 I don't mind change. I just don't like when it's 0:19:41.520 --> 0:19:42.960 when there's no reason for it. 0:19:43.080 --> 0:19:46.760 Why, you know, yeah, right, how. 0:19:46.640 --> 0:19:50.160 Does that improve functionality or efficacy? It doesn't, it does. 0:19:50.520 --> 0:19:54.480 Progressiveness means progress, and even if you're a conservative republic 0:19:54.600 --> 0:19:57.840 or whatever, you still want things to be better, better change, 0:19:57.920 --> 0:19:58.879 not just change. 0:19:59.000 --> 0:20:00.960 Yeah right, yeah, And I think we see a lot 0:20:01.000 --> 0:20:02.879 of that stuff now. You know, I've I have my 0:20:02.960 --> 0:20:05.800 greater thoughts on Apple in general, with how they control 0:20:05.880 --> 0:20:08.600 the situation in many ways, but I you know, this 0:20:08.680 --> 0:20:09.480 show is not long. 0:20:09.440 --> 0:20:10.320 Enough for those thoughts. 0:20:10.359 --> 0:20:13.080 But so, uh yeah, you're just you're just struggling with 0:20:13.119 --> 0:20:15.760 this change as much as I am. And it's it 0:20:15.800 --> 0:20:17.680 took me a while to go to this uh this 0:20:17.760 --> 0:20:20.080 new os because you know, I used to do it 0:20:20.119 --> 0:20:21.680 the day of and now I'm like, eh, I don't 0:20:21.680 --> 0:20:24.439 need it the day of, and it's it's fine, but 0:20:24.480 --> 0:20:27.320 it's just you know it again, it's a little confusing, 0:20:27.440 --> 0:20:28.720 So I hear you. 0:20:29.640 --> 0:20:32.320 I would say the same thing as attacheple. When I 0:20:32.320 --> 0:20:34.800 worked at Apple, I I would not go to the 0:20:34.880 --> 0:20:38.600 latest os because you know, there's a revisions that are 0:20:38.600 --> 0:20:41.120 going to come out, but everybody uses it. Oh yeah, 0:20:41.160 --> 0:20:43.760 so chill out, you know, let it work its way 0:20:43.800 --> 0:20:45.440 through the you know, the ranks for a month or so. 0:20:46.160 --> 0:20:48.800 But I really am thinking about putting a petition together 0:20:48.880 --> 0:20:51.360 to send to Apple and seeing if we can get 0:20:51.359 --> 0:20:53.960 some other people on board with the concept of you 0:20:53.960 --> 0:20:56.879 remember five o'clup pro right, You remember how destroyed that? 0:20:57.080 --> 0:20:59.040 Oh yeah, I mean I've gotten used to that at 0:20:59.040 --> 0:21:00.919 this point, but yes, there was a lot. But you 0:21:00.920 --> 0:21:03.639 know what, here's the deal Apple, And I will say this. 0:21:03.800 --> 0:21:06.800 They did with the keyboard on the MacBook. I did 0:21:06.840 --> 0:21:09.959 hate that and they did end up finally changing it. 0:21:10.000 --> 0:21:12.359 I don't know if it's still the best, but it 0:21:12.440 --> 0:21:14.280 was like one of those things where they're like, no, no, 0:21:14.320 --> 0:21:16.600 it's fine, it's fine, it's fine until they changed it. 0:21:16.720 --> 0:21:19.560 So that's kind of how Apple operates. It's like every 0:21:19.400 --> 0:21:22.600 they kind of question you, you question yourself, and then 0:21:22.680 --> 0:21:24.360 they change it and you're like, oh, I was right 0:21:24.400 --> 0:21:25.040 the whole time. 0:21:25.880 --> 0:21:27.879 Well, it's like the Titanic, you know, they they have 0:21:28.200 --> 0:21:31.600 I'm sure there's so there's so much bureaucrat and infrastructure 0:21:31.600 --> 0:21:33.640 in place now that if you have a change order 0:21:33.680 --> 0:21:35.280 in is an act of God. 0:21:35.440 --> 0:21:35.639 You know. 0:21:35.880 --> 0:21:39.600 To keyboards on the MacBook pros, you know, they wore 0:21:39.640 --> 0:21:42.680 out from your foil, from your finger, the letters would 0:21:42.680 --> 0:21:45.640 come on. Yeah, and the keys was great. The new 0:21:45.680 --> 0:21:47.880 Mac and one they have a nicer keyboard for sure. 0:21:48.080 --> 0:21:48.480 For sure. 0:21:49.160 --> 0:21:52.199 The throw isn't is good and the strokes, but you 0:21:52.240 --> 0:21:54.720 know it is nicer than the old, no doubt. 0:21:54.840 --> 0:21:55.080 Yeah. 0:21:55.600 --> 0:21:58.280 All right, Paul, thanks for the call, appreciate it. Uh, 0:21:58.560 --> 0:22:01.440 we can talk Apple stuff all day. It's just yeah, 0:22:01.480 --> 0:22:04.560 the keyboard, my my, my, I always give my old 0:22:04.560 --> 0:22:07.879 computers to my family members. And my dad is still 0:22:08.320 --> 0:22:11.800 mad that the command key is as like there's no 0:22:12.200 --> 0:22:13.479 there's no command on it anymore. 0:22:13.480 --> 0:22:15.800 It's like, why is this like empty? Anyway? 0:22:15.840 --> 0:22:18.480 All right, let's go to uh, let's go to Snapchat again. 0:22:18.840 --> 0:22:22.080 This is an interview I did with Jasmine. She is 0:22:22.160 --> 0:22:27.760 with Insider Intelligence and this is all about the changes 0:22:27.960 --> 0:22:33.800 at Snapchat. Welcome back to rich on Tech on location 0:22:34.080 --> 0:22:37.920 in Santa Monica at the Snap Partners Summit. Joining me 0:22:38.000 --> 0:22:41.920 now is Jasmine en Berg, principal analyst with Insider Intelligence. 0:22:42.000 --> 0:22:43.280 Jasmin, thanks for joining. 0:22:43.040 --> 0:22:44.240 Me, Thanks for having me. 0:22:44.760 --> 0:22:47.800 Okay, so we just had a big keynote from Snapchat 0:22:48.240 --> 0:22:52.639 talking about all their new features, including AI AR and 0:22:52.720 --> 0:22:54.200 all of the creators they have here. 0:22:54.480 --> 0:22:56.320 What was your big takeaway from this event? 0:22:57.160 --> 0:23:00.880 So it's really exciting to see so many people excited 0:23:00.880 --> 0:23:02.840 about social media again. I think a lot of the 0:23:02.880 --> 0:23:05.080 time in the news, we hear about all the negative 0:23:05.119 --> 0:23:06.400 aspects of social media, and. 0:23:06.359 --> 0:23:09.080 Here we're really celebrating all. 0:23:08.920 --> 0:23:11.240 Of the good things that social media can do, talking 0:23:11.320 --> 0:23:15.639 about creators, augmented reality, as you mentioned, generative AI in 0:23:15.680 --> 0:23:18.760 the future. But I do think, you know, there is 0:23:18.800 --> 0:23:23.400 still a big question considering we barely heard anything about advertisers, 0:23:23.440 --> 0:23:27.000 and advertising, of course is Snapchat's primary business. It's how 0:23:27.040 --> 0:23:30.240 they make almost all of their money, and they have 0:23:30.280 --> 0:23:31.600 Earnix coming up next week. 0:23:32.080 --> 0:23:34.760 Well, they certainly threw some big numbers at US seven 0:23:34.840 --> 0:23:40.280 hundred and fifty million monthly active users, texting, snapping, video 0:23:40.359 --> 0:23:43.919 and voice calls one hundred million minutes per day of 0:23:44.040 --> 0:23:47.440 calling on average on Snapchat, so people are certainly using 0:23:47.480 --> 0:23:47.920 this app. 0:23:48.480 --> 0:23:51.760 Yeah, Snapchat users love Snapchat. I think they proved that 0:23:51.880 --> 0:23:55.760 time and time again, and especially most of the Snapchat 0:23:55.840 --> 0:23:58.280 users are gen Z of course, you know, it's it's 0:23:58.280 --> 0:24:00.840 been really appealing to a young audience who have really 0:24:00.880 --> 0:24:03.480 grown up with the app. We've seen even though other 0:24:03.640 --> 0:24:06.960 contenders have come in to compete for a gen Z's attention, 0:24:07.080 --> 0:24:09.400 TikTok of course being one of the big ones, gen 0:24:09.480 --> 0:24:12.320 Z are still using Snapchat. Of course, they use it 0:24:12.400 --> 0:24:14.399 for a little bit of a different purpose and they 0:24:14.400 --> 0:24:17.240 would use TikTok or other social media services. And we 0:24:17.320 --> 0:24:20.200 heard the executives talk about that today too. Snapchat is 0:24:20.240 --> 0:24:23.800 more for messaging, it's not so much for public facing content, 0:24:23.840 --> 0:24:26.320 although they did make some big announcements about how they're 0:24:26.560 --> 0:24:30.040 improving those public facing surfaces, especially as they're trying to 0:24:30.520 --> 0:24:32.080 be more attractive to creators. 0:24:32.720 --> 0:24:34.679 So they did talk about that the idea of a 0:24:34.760 --> 0:24:39.800 public story, So being not a huge user of Snapchat, 0:24:40.320 --> 0:24:43.080 that is something that's new where you can basically now 0:24:43.240 --> 0:24:44.680 present your stories to. 0:24:44.520 --> 0:24:46.600 The public, which is a pretty sizable shift. 0:24:47.160 --> 0:24:47.400 Yeah. 0:24:47.440 --> 0:24:50.879 Absolutely, And you know, one of the big challenges in 0:24:51.040 --> 0:24:54.600 attracting creators in particular for Snapchat has been the fact 0:24:54.600 --> 0:24:56.480 that they don't have many places where they can post 0:24:56.560 --> 0:24:59.520 public content, stories being one of them. Now you have 0:25:00.000 --> 0:25:03.200 any user ages eighteen and over being able to post 0:25:03.240 --> 0:25:06.240 a public story if they so choose, that will help. 0:25:06.400 --> 0:25:09.080 I do think that there are some potential challenges to 0:25:09.160 --> 0:25:12.199 that though, in terms of privacy on the app, and 0:25:12.240 --> 0:25:15.119 I think there'll be some questions that will be raised 0:25:15.160 --> 0:25:18.080 about how they're going to mitigate some of those concerns 0:25:18.119 --> 0:25:19.119 potentially in the future. 0:25:19.480 --> 0:25:22.000 A couple of features I thought were quite neat and useful. 0:25:22.359 --> 0:25:25.439 This idea that you can see the popular destinations on 0:25:25.480 --> 0:25:27.280 a map. Because they have a lot of data about 0:25:27.280 --> 0:25:30.440 where people go, you can see places and save them 0:25:30.440 --> 0:25:32.760 for later, which I really liked. And then they also 0:25:32.800 --> 0:25:35.520 have this idea of the always on location without the 0:25:35.600 --> 0:25:38.240 app open. So you've been able to sort of see 0:25:38.280 --> 0:25:40.920 your friends on a map, but now you can set 0:25:40.920 --> 0:25:44.320 a duration and say I want to share my location 0:25:44.440 --> 0:25:47.840 for four hours or eight hours. There's some privacy implications 0:25:47.840 --> 0:25:48.520 with that as well. 0:25:49.160 --> 0:25:52.680 Yes, I imagine there will be some privacy concerns raised 0:25:52.720 --> 0:25:55.600 about that as well. They were very careful distress of course, 0:25:55.600 --> 0:25:57.879 that this is a feature that you would have to 0:25:57.920 --> 0:26:01.119 turn on that by default, your low isn't shared. 0:26:01.520 --> 0:26:03.080 But you know, given. 0:26:03.160 --> 0:26:06.639 The problems that we've seen with social media and with privacy, 0:26:06.760 --> 0:26:10.240 especially among young people, as well as you know, other 0:26:10.320 --> 0:26:13.160 negative impacts of social media among young people, I imagine 0:26:13.160 --> 0:26:15.359 this is something that they're going to have to really 0:26:15.400 --> 0:26:18.719 take into consideration as this feature rolls out. 0:26:19.600 --> 0:26:22.439 One of the things they kept reiterating on stage, Several 0:26:22.440 --> 0:26:25.119 of the executives mentioned it is how the app opens 0:26:25.200 --> 0:26:29.760 up into the camera versus TikTok versus Instagram, where you're 0:26:29.760 --> 0:26:31.960 looking at other people's feeds. 0:26:32.400 --> 0:26:33.280 So what do you make of that? 0:26:33.760 --> 0:26:36.080 So back in the day, Snapchat used to pitch itself 0:26:36.119 --> 0:26:38.240 as a camera app, and it's you know, it is 0:26:38.359 --> 0:26:40.280 very true. It does open up into the camera, and 0:26:40.320 --> 0:26:41.800 I do think that's one of the things that sets 0:26:41.840 --> 0:26:45.240 it apart from these other apps. And it's also you know, 0:26:45.560 --> 0:26:48.160 one of the ways that they're trying to pitch themselves. 0:26:47.720 --> 0:26:50.240 Now as a creator platform. 0:26:50.560 --> 0:26:54.280 Now, Snapchat isn't a place for creators and influencers the 0:26:54.320 --> 0:26:56.359 way that TikTok is, the way that Instagram is, and 0:26:56.359 --> 0:26:56.760 the way. 0:26:56.600 --> 0:26:57.280 That YouTube is. 0:26:57.920 --> 0:27:00.560 It has a long road ahead to be to catch 0:27:00.600 --> 0:27:02.880 up to it. But the more that it can position 0:27:02.960 --> 0:27:06.560 itself as a place for content creation, for being able 0:27:06.600 --> 0:27:09.280 to make fun and engage in content, as well as 0:27:09.520 --> 0:27:12.400 having an audience to consume that content and a way 0:27:12.400 --> 0:27:15.120 to make money, which is another big part of the presentation, 0:27:15.640 --> 0:27:18.840 the better chance it has of becoming a bigger player 0:27:18.880 --> 0:27:20.040 within the creator market. 0:27:20.680 --> 0:27:23.280 My guest right now is Jasmine Enberg. She is the 0:27:23.359 --> 0:27:27.600 principal analyst with Insider Intelligence. Let's talk about how they're 0:27:27.640 --> 0:27:32.840 building Snapchat experiences outside of the app. So in retail locations, 0:27:32.880 --> 0:27:34.920 we see a vending. 0:27:34.640 --> 0:27:35.960 Machine that they're building. 0:27:35.720 --> 0:27:39.119 A prototype vending machine with Coca Cola that uses augmented reality. 0:27:39.160 --> 0:27:41.399 You can kind of select what you want on screen, 0:27:41.680 --> 0:27:43.760 and then they have this mirror that lets you try 0:27:43.800 --> 0:27:47.040 on clothing and accessories in a store and also shoes. 0:27:47.720 --> 0:27:51.240 What do you make of those new experiences, So they're. 0:27:51.160 --> 0:27:53.440 A little bit different for me thinking about the Coca 0:27:53.520 --> 0:27:56.520 Cola vending machine, it's still kind of more a gimmick 0:27:56.600 --> 0:27:58.359 in a sense. I think it's a fun way to 0:27:58.440 --> 0:28:02.359 attract people to come to the Coca Cola machine, but 0:28:03.200 --> 0:28:07.359 I can't imagine that that is a reason to necessarily 0:28:07.359 --> 0:28:09.400 come back. I mean, you try it once and then 0:28:09.600 --> 0:28:14.280 that's probably it with the the AR mirror. Shopping with 0:28:14.600 --> 0:28:17.400 AR is not really a mainstream activity yet, but it 0:28:17.480 --> 0:28:21.919 is growing, and I think that retailers might be you know, 0:28:22.119 --> 0:28:26.320 more receptive to that, especially in stores, if snap can 0:28:26.359 --> 0:28:30.080 actually prove real value in increasing in store sales as 0:28:30.080 --> 0:28:33.040 well as reducing return rates. My one question about that 0:28:33.200 --> 0:28:36.440 is is there a reason for somebody to go into 0:28:36.480 --> 0:28:39.560 a store and try something on via AR for an 0:28:39.600 --> 0:28:42.640 in stock item. Probably not unless they want to play 0:28:42.640 --> 0:28:45.800 around with the AR mirror, but for out of stock items. 0:28:45.840 --> 0:28:49.680 So imagine you go into whatever store, they don't have 0:28:49.800 --> 0:28:51.720 your size, but you want to know if it fits 0:28:51.760 --> 0:28:54.000 before you order it online in store, I can imagine 0:28:54.040 --> 0:28:56.080 that would be a really good use case for an 0:28:56.320 --> 0:28:56.800 AR mirror. 0:28:57.440 --> 0:29:00.280 Where do you see Snapchat fitting into the large your 0:29:00.320 --> 0:29:03.160 social media landscape. 0:29:02.640 --> 0:29:03.960 Well, it depends how you look at it. 0:29:04.080 --> 0:29:07.120 Right from you know, the user perspective, it is very 0:29:07.200 --> 0:29:11.320 much a gen Z focused app. It's actually probably you know, 0:29:11.680 --> 0:29:15.240 the first real gen Z app that has risen onto 0:29:15.280 --> 0:29:16.400 the social media scene. 0:29:16.400 --> 0:29:17.520 Now, of course we're seeing. 0:29:17.320 --> 0:29:20.800 A lot more apps that are directed specifically towards that 0:29:20.880 --> 0:29:25.640 younger generation, but Snapchat really kind of pioneered that and 0:29:25.720 --> 0:29:28.560 it made that a core part of its value proposition. 0:29:29.240 --> 0:29:33.400 Finally, AI obviously the hottest topic in the tech world. 0:29:33.840 --> 0:29:36.320 Do you think that they mentioned enough about AI? 0:29:36.400 --> 0:29:40.240 They have this MYAI avatar or chatbot. 0:29:39.800 --> 0:29:40.640 That you can talk to. 0:29:41.080 --> 0:29:43.440 They did open that up to everyone, not just paying 0:29:43.880 --> 0:29:48.080 Snapchat subscribers. And also if you are a subscriber, you 0:29:48.120 --> 0:29:50.320 can send a snap which is like a picture, to 0:29:50.480 --> 0:29:52.320 the bot and it will send you back a picture, 0:29:52.520 --> 0:29:53.880 which I thought was kind of interesting. 0:29:54.240 --> 0:29:55.600 Do you think they're doing enough with AI? 0:29:56.960 --> 0:29:57.840 It's a great question. 0:29:57.920 --> 0:30:00.880 You know, there is a lot of hype around right now, 0:30:00.920 --> 0:30:05.040 and it's where the competition within social media is shifting to. 0:30:05.480 --> 0:30:08.480 But it's really early days and AI can. 0:30:08.360 --> 0:30:11.760 Still be pretty problematic. I do think it's exciting to 0:30:11.840 --> 0:30:16.320 hear what snap is planning with generative AI. I think, 0:30:16.400 --> 0:30:18.920 you know, its user base is one of the most 0:30:18.960 --> 0:30:24.080 receptive to these kinds of technologies, and we've clearly seen 0:30:24.240 --> 0:30:29.080 that Snapchat Plus subscribers have really you know, or Snapchat 0:30:29.160 --> 0:30:30.200 users have really. 0:30:30.000 --> 0:30:32.520 Already taken to the MII chat bot. 0:30:32.600 --> 0:30:35.160 I did a couple of calculations in my head, and 0:30:35.240 --> 0:30:38.240 it sounds like my AI was one of the big 0:30:38.280 --> 0:30:42.560 reason for Snapchat Plus plus is subscriber growth over the 0:30:42.600 --> 0:30:44.160 past two months or so. 0:30:44.320 --> 0:30:46.960 And they said they have about three million plus subscribers 0:30:46.960 --> 0:30:48.360 that pay what four dollars a month? 0:30:48.440 --> 0:30:51.240 It's about four dollars a month, I believe, And yeah, 0:30:51.240 --> 0:30:53.960 and that's up by one million since January thirty first, 0:30:53.960 --> 0:30:58.000 and my Ai launched too Snapchat Plus subscribers on February 0:30:58.000 --> 0:31:00.880 twenty seven, so that's a pretty big number that have 0:31:00.960 --> 0:31:03.480 signed up in just two months. And I suspect that 0:31:03.560 --> 0:31:05.280 my Ai had quite a bit to do with it. 0:31:05.640 --> 0:31:07.840 And one thing I took from the keynote though, they 0:31:07.880 --> 0:31:10.120 did mention that they look at all of the chats 0:31:10.600 --> 0:31:13.440 with the myai bot, so it's not really private. 0:31:13.960 --> 0:31:15.480 The other thing that I took away from that too 0:31:15.560 --> 0:31:18.000 is when Evan Spiegel said that don't ask for my 0:31:18.440 --> 0:31:21.000 don't ask for advice from my AI. So clearly they 0:31:21.040 --> 0:31:24.160 know that AI can be problematic. I'm sure there are 0:31:24.240 --> 0:31:27.080 working hard to fix it and mitigate a lot of 0:31:27.080 --> 0:31:30.560 the issues, but clearly there there is still potential for 0:31:30.800 --> 0:31:32.080 problems with my AI. 0:31:32.600 --> 0:31:34.920 So we have a company known for fun lenses trying 0:31:34.920 --> 0:31:36.440 to move past just that. 0:31:37.120 --> 0:31:40.880 Yes, absolutely, but not stray too far away from you know, 0:31:40.920 --> 0:31:43.320 what it has, what it originally was. And I think 0:31:43.360 --> 0:31:46.840 that's the challenge for Snapchat going forward is to remain 0:31:46.920 --> 0:31:52.760 true to its roots while still expanding, iterating, and creating 0:31:52.800 --> 0:31:54.080 something new for the future. 0:31:54.600 --> 0:31:58.000 All Right, Jasmine Enberg, principal analysts with Insider Intelligence, thanks 0:31:58.000 --> 0:31:59.080 so much for joining me today. 0:31:59.360 --> 0:32:00.000 Thank you so much. 0:32:00.000 --> 0:32:00.600 Thanks for having me. 0:32:01.080 --> 0:32:03.280 All Right, we'll have more of your calls coming up next. 0:32:03.280 --> 0:32:03.840 Give me a call. 0:32:03.920 --> 0:32:07.240 Triple eight rich one O one. You are listening to 0:32:07.760 --> 0:32:14.400 Rich on tech. Welcome back to Rich on Tech. Rich 0:32:14.440 --> 0:32:19.200 DeMuro here hanging out with you, talking technology. Triple A 0:32:19.560 --> 0:32:23.280 rich one O one. Phone lines are open eight eight 0:32:23.400 --> 0:32:29.480 eight seven four to two four one zero one. Scott 0:32:29.560 --> 0:32:31.800 is in Siam Valley, Scott, you're on with Rich. 0:32:32.960 --> 0:32:33.600 Thanks Rich. 0:32:33.960 --> 0:32:36.560 I'm calling because I have a family member that's going 0:32:36.600 --> 0:32:38.840 to be at sea on the East Coast working on 0:32:38.880 --> 0:32:42.200 a cruise ship for about seven months, and I'm looking 0:32:42.320 --> 0:32:47.840 for cell phone, talk, text internet service providers that you 0:32:47.880 --> 0:32:53.080 could recommend we look into while she's at c and import. 0:32:52.200 --> 0:32:57.120 Oh, while she's at c That's an interesting one because 0:32:57.120 --> 0:33:00.440 I don't think that there is one provider that work 0:33:01.080 --> 0:33:05.640 across you know, wherever they go. Now on the ship, 0:33:05.680 --> 0:33:08.000 do they they provide Wi Fi to the employees. 0:33:11.200 --> 0:33:13.320 Yes, but at this point she doesn't know what they're 0:33:13.320 --> 0:33:16.040 going to charge her. They told her it's it's available, 0:33:16.080 --> 0:33:19.480 but it's not free. So if she's going to be 0:33:19.480 --> 0:33:21.800 at c for six or seven months and it's three 0:33:21.840 --> 0:33:24.520 dollars a day, it's probably going to run up quite 0:33:24.520 --> 0:33:24.880 a tab. 0:33:25.120 --> 0:33:29.240 Yeah, and that's not something that she should probably do, okay, 0:33:29.280 --> 0:33:33.800 So while she's at sea, I would say, unless there's 0:33:33.800 --> 0:33:37.040 a provision on the ship where they give them, you know, 0:33:37.440 --> 0:33:40.080 an hour a day or you know, three dollars a 0:33:40.160 --> 0:33:43.640 day for the Wi Fi, I would say, on the ship, 0:33:43.760 --> 0:33:47.120 maybe activate Wi Fi calling and see if that will work. 0:33:47.800 --> 0:33:50.800 Has she talked about that on her phone? 0:33:52.000 --> 0:33:52.240 Yes? 0:33:52.360 --> 0:33:55.760 I actually did have a conversation with her, and they 0:33:56.480 --> 0:33:59.120 did tell her that it's unrestricted use, but there is 0:33:59.120 --> 0:34:01.200 a fee for it, but they didn't know what it was. 0:34:01.560 --> 0:34:02.920 They couldn't tell her what it would be. 0:34:03.120 --> 0:34:07.600 Okay, So if that's the case, does she so? I 0:34:07.600 --> 0:34:09.960 would say, while she's on the ship, it's probably going 0:34:10.000 --> 0:34:12.960 to be a matter of she's not really connecting to 0:34:13.000 --> 0:34:14.759 this on a daily basis. She sort of has to 0:34:14.800 --> 0:34:18.280 embrace the fact that she's out there, it costs money, 0:34:18.480 --> 0:34:20.839 and it's just not something that she can do while 0:34:20.880 --> 0:34:24.120 she's there the whole time. Now I'm not aware. I'd 0:34:24.160 --> 0:34:26.040 have to look more into this, but I'm curious what 0:34:26.120 --> 0:34:28.520 other people do. So maybe there's a form or something 0:34:29.000 --> 0:34:32.800 online where people can, you know, where other cruise ship 0:34:33.239 --> 0:34:36.160 employees talk about what they do to stay connected on 0:34:36.360 --> 0:34:40.719 the ship. So that's number one. Number two, when you 0:34:40.800 --> 0:34:45.759 are in port, there are various ways to tackle this. 0:34:45.880 --> 0:34:46.279 Number one. 0:34:46.440 --> 0:34:49.760 Her cell phone plan may include provisions for certain places 0:34:49.800 --> 0:34:53.160 she goes, so I would check to see what's included, specifically, 0:34:53.200 --> 0:34:53.800 Team Mobile. 0:34:55.560 --> 0:34:56.919 Okay, what companies she using? 0:34:56.960 --> 0:34:57.239 Do you know? 0:34:58.400 --> 0:34:58.640 Yeah? 0:34:58.719 --> 0:35:00.880 Right now, she is with Mobile. 0:35:00.960 --> 0:35:03.000 Okay, she's with US Mobile, so they're more of like 0:35:03.040 --> 0:35:05.239 an all a cart thing. So US Mobile may give 0:35:05.239 --> 0:35:07.880 you the option to add some international roaming. I'd definitely 0:35:07.920 --> 0:35:10.560 look into that, or you might even look into switching 0:35:10.560 --> 0:35:13.640 to something like T Mobile that offers the international roaming. 0:35:14.120 --> 0:35:15.920 The other thing you can do, and this is an 0:35:15.920 --> 0:35:18.879 app that's really really good that I've used around the world. 0:35:18.920 --> 0:35:23.360 It's called Aralo ai r Alo and they sell SIM 0:35:23.440 --> 0:35:26.200 cards for different places. So what she can do is 0:35:26.280 --> 0:35:28.759 activate a couple of these SIM cards on her phone. 0:35:28.800 --> 0:35:29.520 They're e sims. 0:35:29.560 --> 0:35:31.200 It's all electronic, it's all digital. 0:35:31.920 --> 0:35:33.920 And then when she goes if she's going to the 0:35:33.920 --> 0:35:36.719 same ports over and over, she can just activate that 0:35:36.800 --> 0:35:39.240 card once again. It may cost you know, ten bucks, 0:35:39.280 --> 0:35:42.680 five bucks here and there, but you know, for maybe 0:35:42.680 --> 0:35:45.239 some of the main places that she she's always stopping at, 0:35:45.320 --> 0:35:47.520 that might be a good idea. The other thing I'd 0:35:47.560 --> 0:35:50.440 recommend is just figure out the Wi Fi calling situation 0:35:50.600 --> 0:35:54.040 and when she gets to these different places, learn the 0:35:54.120 --> 0:35:58.759 different cafes and hotels that will offer Wi Fi for free. 0:35:58.840 --> 0:36:02.000 And just lean on them for the connectivity. So that's 0:36:02.040 --> 0:36:02.680 what I would do. 0:36:02.840 --> 0:36:04.960 I've been, you know, sort of around the world with 0:36:05.360 --> 0:36:08.440 cell phone connectivity. It has changed a lot in the 0:36:08.480 --> 0:36:11.560 past ten fifteen years. Used to be when I went 0:36:11.600 --> 0:36:13.800 to certain countries, I just knew I was out of touch. 0:36:14.200 --> 0:36:16.200 And at this point, I don't think there's really a 0:36:16.200 --> 0:36:18.719 place except out at sea where you need to be 0:36:18.800 --> 0:36:22.480 out of touch. So great question, Scott, and uh, hopefully 0:36:22.480 --> 0:36:25.440 she embraces and enjoys the fact that she's sort of 0:36:25.480 --> 0:36:26.520 disconnected from the world. 0:36:26.520 --> 0:36:28.200 When do we get a chance to do that? But 0:36:28.320 --> 0:36:30.200 knowing she can be reachable in an emergency. 0:36:30.800 --> 0:36:32.919 Phone lines are open triple eight Rich one on one 0:36:33.000 --> 0:36:35.680 eight eight eight seven four to two, four to one 0:36:35.800 --> 0:36:36.359 zero one. 0:36:36.400 --> 0:36:37.000 Give me a call. 0:36:37.120 --> 0:36:41.680 You're listening to rich on Tech. Welcome back to rich 0:36:41.760 --> 0:36:46.120 on Tech. Rich DeMuro here hanging out with you, talking 0:36:46.160 --> 0:36:49.520 technology at triple eight rich one oh one. That's eight 0:36:49.600 --> 0:36:55.960 eight eight seven four to two four one zero one. 0:36:56.560 --> 0:37:01.080 Bring me right back to my middle school dances. All 0:37:01.160 --> 0:37:05.080 nervous trying to ask her to dance with you. Never 0:37:05.120 --> 0:37:08.840 I don't think I ever did so so nerve racking. 0:37:09.400 --> 0:37:11.319 And now my kid's going through that and I'm like, yeah, 0:37:11.440 --> 0:37:14.640 go go go ask, Just get in there, and you know, 0:37:14.840 --> 0:37:16.640 see what happens. 0:37:16.680 --> 0:37:17.960 Easier said than done. I know. 0:37:18.920 --> 0:37:19.040 Uh. 0:37:19.280 --> 0:37:19.920 Kind of funny. 0:37:20.040 --> 0:37:22.600 You ever just feel kind of like sometimes you did 0:37:22.600 --> 0:37:23.200 the wrong thing. 0:37:23.360 --> 0:37:25.560 So kind of a funny story. 0:37:25.600 --> 0:37:28.279 So I Samsung reached out to me and they said, hey, 0:37:29.760 --> 0:37:32.000 would you like to see your pictures on a billboard? 0:37:32.000 --> 0:37:34.520 And I said, of course, And they said, just take 0:37:34.520 --> 0:37:37.440 a couple of two hundred megapixel pictures with the S 0:37:37.480 --> 0:37:40.319 twenty three Ultra and send them to us, and We're 0:37:40.320 --> 0:37:43.680 going to do this billboard event in the UK. We're 0:37:43.680 --> 0:37:46.560 going to show your pictures on there, and obviously, since 0:37:46.600 --> 0:37:48.440 you can't be there, we'll snap a picture of your 0:37:48.480 --> 0:37:50.080 pictures on the billboard and we'll send it to you. 0:37:50.120 --> 0:37:52.840 And said, oh, that's really cool. So I'm in Hawaii. 0:37:53.680 --> 0:37:56.319 I take a couple of cool, like landscape photos. You 0:37:56.320 --> 0:37:58.479 could see these on my Instagram at rich On Tech. 0:37:58.840 --> 0:38:00.919 I send them in. I don't hear anything. I guess 0:38:00.960 --> 0:38:02.360 this weekend happens whatever. 0:38:02.480 --> 0:38:02.800 Whenever. 0:38:02.840 --> 0:38:06.120 It was last weekend, and finally get this email with 0:38:06.160 --> 0:38:07.600 the picture of the billboard and I was like, oh 0:38:07.600 --> 0:38:10.160 my gosh, that's so cool. And so I posted on 0:38:10.239 --> 0:38:12.319 Instagram and I knew other people were gonna get their 0:38:12.360 --> 0:38:14.280 pictures on this billboard too, it was going to rotate 0:38:14.320 --> 0:38:16.480 through them. Well, first off, I thought it was funny 0:38:16.480 --> 0:38:19.400 that they didn't put my or anyone's handle on the picture, 0:38:19.480 --> 0:38:21.520 so you just see my pictures, which is cool, But 0:38:21.560 --> 0:38:23.680 it doesn't say like rich On Tech anywhere whatever. I'm 0:38:23.680 --> 0:38:26.440 fine with that. It's still cool to see your pictures 0:38:26.440 --> 0:38:28.600 on a billboard. But the funny thing is I was 0:38:28.640 --> 0:38:31.279 flipping through other people's pictures that they put up there. 0:38:31.520 --> 0:38:34.880 Every other person took a picture of themselves because it 0:38:34.920 --> 0:38:37.680 makes sense. You see yourself on this giant billboard in 0:38:37.719 --> 0:38:41.160 the UK. Duh, Like anyone can see a picture of 0:38:41.200 --> 0:38:44.400 Hawaii anywhere, just open up like the Internet. But you know, 0:38:44.520 --> 0:38:46.880 to see yourself on this billboard is a lot cooler. 0:38:46.920 --> 0:38:50.200 So I felt like I went from feeling like really 0:38:50.239 --> 0:38:53.440 cool as I was scrolling through everyone else's pictures feeling 0:38:53.520 --> 0:38:56.600 kind of like, oh, whoops, I really miss you know, 0:38:56.680 --> 0:38:58.560 mess that one up, Sony. If you want to see 0:38:58.560 --> 0:39:00.960 the pictures, I still think they're nice, you can check 0:39:00.960 --> 0:39:03.000 them out on my Instagram at rich On Tech. Anyway, 0:39:03.040 --> 0:39:06.360 thank you Samsung for the cool opportunity. Uh this is 0:39:06.400 --> 0:39:10.600 the Piccadilly billboard in London. I don't think I saw 0:39:10.640 --> 0:39:11.960 that when I went to London. I was only in 0:39:11.960 --> 0:39:14.840 London for like forty eight hours once. I don't know 0:39:14.840 --> 0:39:19.920 if I remember that thing. Let's go to uh Eon 0:39:20.320 --> 0:39:21.239 in Norwalk. 0:39:21.520 --> 0:39:22.719 Eon? Am I saying that right? 0:39:22.760 --> 0:39:26.320 You're on with rich Yes, yes you are, thank you. Listen. 0:39:26.440 --> 0:39:28.840 I am a VISUALI in per and I want to 0:39:28.880 --> 0:39:33.120 know whether I can use the Sampson fond to get 0:39:33.160 --> 0:39:38.760 stop to it for research and dial Oh uh yeah 0:39:38.880 --> 0:39:39.240 I would. 0:39:39.280 --> 0:39:40.719 I would think you'll be able to do that. 0:39:40.840 --> 0:39:43.600 I I don't have as much experience on the Samsung 0:39:43.800 --> 0:39:47.759 side of things with the accessibility tools, but I would 0:39:47.760 --> 0:39:52.680 think that Samsung has just as many accessibility features as 0:39:52.880 --> 0:39:56.239 Andrew as a you know, iPhone, and also Pixel. So 0:39:56.560 --> 0:39:59.719 you're looking at You're looking at things like talk back, 0:40:00.040 --> 0:40:01.720 which we'll read what's on the screen. 0:40:01.800 --> 0:40:02.520 Is that what you need? 0:40:03.800 --> 0:40:08.200 No? Yeah, no, Y just research. Let's say that I 0:40:08.239 --> 0:40:12.799 want to listen to a YouTube video and you said 0:40:12.840 --> 0:40:14.760 YouTube and whatever video wanna? 0:40:15.719 --> 0:40:18.120 Oh yeah, I think you'll be able to use Bixby 0:40:18.120 --> 0:40:22.520 for those things easily. I think Bixby is actually pretty 0:40:22.560 --> 0:40:25.839 good for that. That's their voice assistant, So I think 0:40:25.840 --> 0:40:27.560 that that's a good way to do it. The other 0:40:27.600 --> 0:40:29.920 phone to look at is called the Pixel from Google. 0:40:31.200 --> 0:40:33.160 I would say look at that one as well and 0:40:33.200 --> 0:40:35.400 see kind of compare the features. But I think that 0:40:36.280 --> 0:40:39.120 the accessibility tools on Samsung are going to be are 0:40:39.160 --> 0:40:41.319 going to be pretty good for what you need. 0:40:41.400 --> 0:40:42.160 Have you ever pixel? 0:40:42.200 --> 0:40:43.640 Which one is better Pixel or. 0:40:45.239 --> 0:40:45.719 Which one? 0:40:45.920 --> 0:40:49.080 I mean, it depends. I M that's a good question 0:40:49.760 --> 0:40:54.279 specifically when it comes to the accessibility tools. I don't 0:40:54.280 --> 0:40:56.680 have a ton of experience with either of those tools. 0:40:56.760 --> 0:40:59.000 I mean, I've seen you know, Pixel has a lot 0:40:59.040 --> 0:41:01.359 of tools that will read things back to you, and 0:41:01.400 --> 0:41:04.080 also their Google Assistant is really good, and also text 0:41:04.160 --> 0:41:07.680 to speech is really good. But again, Samsung, you know, 0:41:07.719 --> 0:41:09.480 I think they've put a lot of work into this 0:41:09.600 --> 0:41:12.840 as well, and I think Bixby's pretty good. So have 0:41:12.960 --> 0:41:15.360 you ever used a cell phone or a smartphone before? 0:41:15.440 --> 0:41:15.840 No? 0:41:15.840 --> 0:41:18.399 No, I I when I when I when I used 0:41:18.440 --> 0:41:23.719 to see, uh, in college, right tech, the teacher would 0:41:23.840 --> 0:41:26.439 like talk to the phone, I said, Now that I'm 0:41:26.600 --> 0:41:29.040 usually impressed in maybe I can use something like that. 0:41:29.920 --> 0:41:32.520 Yeah, I mean, I think most of the modern smartphones 0:41:32.560 --> 0:41:35.280 are going to have the text to speech and also 0:41:35.320 --> 0:41:38.360 the talkback features, which which pretty much reads what's on 0:41:38.400 --> 0:41:41.680 the screen back to you. And I think that getting 0:41:41.800 --> 0:41:44.200 used to those that functionality is probably going to be 0:41:44.400 --> 0:41:47.239 the toughest part is learning what it can do and 0:41:47.280 --> 0:41:49.480 also what it's capable of and how to use it. 0:41:49.480 --> 0:41:52.080 But for voice styling, that's pretty simple, that's going to 0:41:52.120 --> 0:41:53.160 be very straightforward. 0:41:53.640 --> 0:41:53.960 Really. 0:41:54.000 --> 0:41:57.080 When it comes to actually using the phone, the back 0:41:57.120 --> 0:42:00.680 and forth of what's on the screen, it's it telling me, 0:42:01.160 --> 0:42:04.000 you know, to do, and also being able to perform 0:42:04.040 --> 0:42:09.200 those functions all in a voice manner. It's probably going 0:42:09.280 --> 0:42:10.879 to be a little tricky at first, but I think, 0:42:10.920 --> 0:42:12.640 like anything else, you'll probably get used to it and 0:42:12.800 --> 0:42:15.759 understand the capabilities of what this thing can do. But 0:42:16.040 --> 0:42:19.600 from what I've seen, yeah, I think you'll you'll be 0:42:19.600 --> 0:42:21.760 pretty good with the Samsung if you have a Samsung 0:42:21.800 --> 0:42:24.279 in mind, So keep me. 0:42:24.239 --> 0:42:27.160 Posted on that. Okay, okay, thank you so much, Alrighteon, 0:42:27.280 --> 0:42:28.239 thank you appreciate that. 0:42:29.080 --> 0:42:31.560 Uh triple eight rich one O one eight eight eight 0:42:31.680 --> 0:42:34.960 seven four to two four one zero one. Most of 0:42:35.000 --> 0:42:38.399 the major smartphone companies have put a lot of thought 0:42:38.400 --> 0:42:43.960 into accessibility in making these phones easier to use than 0:42:44.440 --> 0:42:49.480 ever before. I mean, Pixel does it, Samsung, But you know, 0:42:49.520 --> 0:42:51.640 it's one of these things that if you're not actively 0:42:51.760 --> 0:42:55.480 using it and you don't necessarily need it, you don't 0:42:55.800 --> 0:42:57.920 really dive into those features. A lot of times when 0:42:57.960 --> 0:43:00.000 we look at these accessibility features, when you see them 0:43:00.120 --> 0:43:02.880 kind of spring up on places like Instagram and TikTok, 0:43:03.280 --> 0:43:06.440 it's mostly for sort of a hack using the phone. 0:43:06.960 --> 0:43:09.839 So there's like a lot of these accessibility features that 0:43:09.880 --> 0:43:14.239 are meant for people of varying abilities, and people find 0:43:14.400 --> 0:43:19.200 ways to use them, you know, for convenience, whether it's 0:43:19.560 --> 0:43:23.160 guided access, whether it's voiceover, whether it's the tapping the 0:43:23.160 --> 0:43:25.520 back of the phone to perform some sort of functionality. 0:43:25.840 --> 0:43:27.719 So that's most of the experience that I have with 0:43:27.760 --> 0:43:30.400 those things. But if you need to use it, I 0:43:30.400 --> 0:43:32.520 think it's a matter of learning and going to some 0:43:32.560 --> 0:43:34.600 of those resources that can help you with that stuff. 0:43:36.000 --> 0:43:40.840 All right, Netflix, can you believe it after twenty five 0:43:40.960 --> 0:43:45.240 years no more DVDs? Did you even know that Netflix 0:43:45.280 --> 0:43:49.279 still sent out DVDs? Yes, they do, And a couple 0:43:49.239 --> 0:43:51.960 of years ago they spun off this business to DVD 0:43:52.080 --> 0:43:55.560 dot com. They tried to change the name, I think 0:43:55.600 --> 0:43:59.120 it was Quickstir or something a couple of years ago, 0:43:59.200 --> 0:44:03.080 and that just went totally bad. And so they just said, okay, 0:44:03.160 --> 0:44:06.480 dvd dot com. But twenty five years and I was 0:44:06.520 --> 0:44:10.399 one of the first customers of Netflix when it came out. 0:44:11.280 --> 0:44:14.800 And I would love to show you my first email 0:44:14.880 --> 0:44:16.880 or tell you about my first email from Netflix, but 0:44:16.920 --> 0:44:19.759 my email does not go back that far. Gmail came 0:44:19.800 --> 0:44:23.799 out in April two thousand and four, so my earliest 0:44:24.200 --> 0:44:28.359 email I have from Netflix is Tuesday, July fifth, two 0:44:28.400 --> 0:44:33.840 thousand and five. I ordered the DVD Hitch with Will Smith. 0:44:34.440 --> 0:44:38.600 It was going to arrive on or around Wednesday, July sixth, 0:44:38.880 --> 0:44:43.440 two thousand and five. Remember that Netflix got really good 0:44:43.520 --> 0:44:47.560 and really fast about these DVDs. Basically, as soon as 0:44:47.600 --> 0:44:50.279 you put the DVD in the mail, the USPS would 0:44:50.320 --> 0:44:54.000 scan it and that would send the signal to Netflix 0:44:54.040 --> 0:44:55.680 to send you your next DVD. 0:44:55.840 --> 0:44:56.840 Remember, you had your. 0:44:56.760 --> 0:44:59.120 Queue, so you really didn't know what you were going 0:44:59.200 --> 0:45:02.480 to be watching on a Friday night. It basically was 0:45:02.560 --> 0:45:06.600 determined by what arrived, and if your movie didn't arrive 0:45:06.680 --> 0:45:09.760 in time, well you weren't watching it, and that happened often. 0:45:10.160 --> 0:45:12.920 But then of course you would upgrade to more a 0:45:12.960 --> 0:45:15.560 higher plan that offered more DVDs out at once, you'd 0:45:15.560 --> 0:45:17.640 get two or three of these things, but then when 0:45:17.680 --> 0:45:19.600 you were feeling like it was too expensive, you'd drop 0:45:19.680 --> 0:45:21.839 down to one. These were all the things we had 0:45:21.880 --> 0:45:24.480 to do. So Netflix is going to ship out their 0:45:24.520 --> 0:45:29.640 final discs on September twenty ninth, twenty twenty three. Netflix 0:45:29.680 --> 0:45:32.080 says that this changed the way people watch shows and 0:45:32.120 --> 0:45:32.799 movies at home. 0:45:32.920 --> 0:45:33.640 Absolutely. 0:45:33.680 --> 0:45:37.000 We went from Blockbuster to the DVDs by mail, and 0:45:37.040 --> 0:45:39.279 then of course to streaming. When that came along when 0:45:39.320 --> 0:45:44.360 that was better. Let's see, the first DVD shipped was 0:45:44.520 --> 0:45:49.279 Beetlejuice March tenth, nineteen ninety eight. So I'm trying to 0:45:49.280 --> 0:45:51.880 remember the DVDs. I remember because I was such an 0:45:51.880 --> 0:45:54.279 early customer of Netflix. I thought it was such a 0:45:54.280 --> 0:45:58.840 cool kind of idea that the DVDs. Every time I 0:45:58.880 --> 0:46:01.680 got one, it would come in different packaging because they 0:46:01.680 --> 0:46:05.480 were experimenting with the early packaging to see what worked 0:46:05.480 --> 0:46:07.360 and what did it. So at one point when I 0:46:07.360 --> 0:46:09.920 first got the DVD, it was in all this padding 0:46:10.120 --> 0:46:13.200 and it was a really thick envelope with like foam inside. 0:46:13.560 --> 0:46:15.880 And then towards the end, they were literally just sending 0:46:15.920 --> 0:46:19.279 like DVDs through the mail like without anything because they're like, ah, 0:46:19.280 --> 0:46:21.920 we don't care if these things get damage, scratched, lost, whatever. 0:46:21.960 --> 0:46:22.840 They're so cheap. 0:46:23.480 --> 0:46:27.360 It was just literally the envelopes were so flimsy towards 0:46:27.360 --> 0:46:29.040 the end that it was just kind of a joke. 0:46:29.760 --> 0:46:33.680 Number of DVDs shipped five point two billion. Most popular title, 0:46:33.800 --> 0:46:39.719 The blind Side. Number of DVDs supported twenty main genres, 0:46:39.760 --> 0:46:43.080 five hundred and thirty subgenres. Unique subscribers over the year 0:46:43.120 --> 0:46:47.640 forty million so again, if you have some outstanding DVDs. 0:46:47.680 --> 0:46:50.480 September twenty ninth, twenty twenty three, end of an era. 0:46:51.440 --> 0:46:53.520 I don't even have a DVD player at this point, 0:46:53.600 --> 0:46:54.880 so I couldn't even play a DVD. 0:46:55.360 --> 0:46:55.680 All right. 0:46:55.680 --> 0:46:57.440 Coming up on the show, we got lots more to 0:46:57.440 --> 0:47:00.640 talk about. I'm excited for this interview. We've got Martin Cooper. 0:47:01.480 --> 0:47:06.319 He is known as the father of the smartphone. Yes, 0:47:06.719 --> 0:47:09.600 he made one of the first cellular calls ever. He's 0:47:09.640 --> 0:47:11.799 gonna join me live to talk about that. Later, we're 0:47:11.800 --> 0:47:14.279 gonna talk about how to remove your personal information from 0:47:14.280 --> 0:47:17.399 the Internet. But first your calls Triple eight rich one 0:47:17.440 --> 0:47:22.120 oh one. You are listening to rich on Tech. Welcome 0:47:22.160 --> 0:47:25.600 back to rich on Tech. This is the show where 0:47:25.600 --> 0:47:27.720 I talk about the tech stuff I think you should 0:47:27.760 --> 0:47:32.160 know about, and it's where I answer your questions about technology. 0:47:32.560 --> 0:47:36.680 You can find me online at rich on Tech, on Instagram, Twitter, 0:47:37.000 --> 0:47:40.520 yeah I'm still there, and Facebook, or go to rich 0:47:40.760 --> 0:47:44.480 on Tech dot tv. It's still me on Twitter. Even 0:47:44.520 --> 0:47:47.759 though my blue check mark that I've had for ten 0:47:47.800 --> 0:47:52.160 plus years is gone and I'm probably not gonna pay 0:47:52.200 --> 0:47:54.839 to get it back because I just don't think it's 0:47:54.880 --> 0:47:58.680 worth it, but whatever, those are my problems, not yours. 0:47:58.920 --> 0:48:01.040 Matthew is in your We had a Matthew You're on 0:48:01.120 --> 0:48:03.000 with Rich Hi. 0:48:03.120 --> 0:48:07.280 Rich have a question planning and upcoming family reunion this summer, 0:48:07.640 --> 0:48:09.960 and we're doing a bunch of back and forth emails 0:48:10.000 --> 0:48:12.960 that aren't working. Just wondering if you had any sort 0:48:12.960 --> 0:48:16.840 of messaging or any collaboration tool suggestion or planning a 0:48:16.920 --> 0:48:19.120 family reunion here in southern California. 0:48:19.239 --> 0:48:21.680 Oh, good question. We did this last year. 0:48:22.200 --> 0:48:24.640 We went up to Bend, Oregon with a whole bunch 0:48:24.640 --> 0:48:28.360 of people, and yeah, it was a mess. There was 0:48:28.440 --> 0:48:34.440 not one clear way. When we first started planning, someone 0:48:34.480 --> 0:48:37.040 suggested we all get on Signal, And I don't know 0:48:37.040 --> 0:48:38.840 if you know what Signal is, but it's like the 0:48:38.880 --> 0:48:42.560 most secure chat app in the world, and so I 0:48:42.600 --> 0:48:44.360 was just like, that's not going to work. Like that 0:48:44.520 --> 0:48:48.520 is just not going to work. So my recommendation is 0:48:48.560 --> 0:48:52.960 to get on a cross platform app that allows you 0:48:53.040 --> 0:48:56.000 to do everything the same, no matter if you're on 0:48:56.239 --> 0:49:00.279 iPhone or Android. Now, this group chat could get kind 0:49:00.280 --> 0:49:03.160 of filled up with a lot of different people and 0:49:03.239 --> 0:49:05.279 a lot of different thoughts, so that's definitely going to 0:49:05.320 --> 0:49:07.960 be an issue. But to have one place where you 0:49:07.960 --> 0:49:10.840 can go back and search what people said and suggestions 0:49:10.880 --> 0:49:14.920 and things like that. My favorite is Telegram. Have you 0:49:15.320 --> 0:49:16.440 heard of Telegram? 0:49:16.880 --> 0:49:17.400 Yes? I have? 0:49:17.680 --> 0:49:18.839 Are you on Telegram? 0:49:19.600 --> 0:49:21.840 I have it on my phone, but I haven't signed 0:49:21.920 --> 0:49:22.600 up for it yet. 0:49:22.680 --> 0:49:25.680 Okay, So that's probably the best thing I ever got 0:49:25.760 --> 0:49:29.160 my family to get on. About three years ago, right 0:49:29.200 --> 0:49:31.839 before the pandemic. We all signed up and we have 0:49:32.000 --> 0:49:34.879 a couple of different group chats, and you may want 0:49:34.920 --> 0:49:38.600 to create several group chats based on, you know, the 0:49:38.600 --> 0:49:42.200 people that are organizing versus people attending, and maybe you 0:49:42.200 --> 0:49:44.520 know different things like that. But what I love about 0:49:44.520 --> 0:49:46.880 this is not only can you chat back and forth 0:49:46.920 --> 0:49:50.280 and the features are the same on iPhone or Android, 0:49:50.280 --> 0:49:51.960 because you don't the last thing you want to do 0:49:52.040 --> 0:49:53.960 is use texting for this, because that's just not going 0:49:54.040 --> 0:49:58.720 to work. But if you tap into your your group chat, 0:49:59.120 --> 0:50:01.200 you can see all all the different things that people 0:50:01.200 --> 0:50:03.480 have exchanged. You can go and look at the media, 0:50:03.560 --> 0:50:06.680 which are the photos and videos that people have exchanged. 0:50:06.719 --> 0:50:08.839 We'll give you kind of a whole catalog of those, 0:50:08.920 --> 0:50:12.239 like an album. You've got files, So if you had 0:50:12.239 --> 0:50:14.160 a file that you want to put like a PDF 0:50:14.239 --> 0:50:15.080 or something like that. 0:50:15.160 --> 0:50:16.480 You can look in the files. 0:50:17.160 --> 0:50:20.680 There's voice messages, there are links, so if someone sends 0:50:20.680 --> 0:50:23.000 a link, you can easily look through and see the links. 0:50:23.360 --> 0:50:25.960 And of course gifts as well, so you can look 0:50:26.000 --> 0:50:28.799 through and see what people have done there. But there's 0:50:28.800 --> 0:50:31.640 also a search functionality, so you can search and see 0:50:31.640 --> 0:50:35.600 what people have said in the chats. And my favorite thing, 0:50:36.600 --> 0:50:38.719 not only do you have reactions and things like that, 0:50:38.840 --> 0:50:42.280 but you can pin stuff. So if there's something important 0:50:42.280 --> 0:50:45.560 that like, you know, where you're going to meet up 0:50:45.680 --> 0:50:48.520 or something that's you know, pertinent, you can pin, or 0:50:48.560 --> 0:50:50.520 a vote or a you know, whatever you want to do, 0:50:50.920 --> 0:50:52.680 you can pin that to the top of the chat. 0:50:52.760 --> 0:50:55.799 So I really like all that functionality. Now, the other 0:50:55.840 --> 0:50:59.680 thing that I'd probably recommend is a shared document, and 0:50:59.760 --> 0:51:02.840 so that would be something like Google Docs. Create a 0:51:03.320 --> 0:51:07.719 either a spreadsheet or some sort of shared folder file, whatever, 0:51:08.440 --> 0:51:11.959 and that way you can get everyone on the same 0:51:12.000 --> 0:51:15.440 page there with the itinerary. And then finally, the other 0:51:15.480 --> 0:51:17.840 thing that we did that I loved is we created 0:51:17.880 --> 0:51:22.600 a Google Photos album, and so when people took pictures, 0:51:22.719 --> 0:51:25.600 you just could drag and drop them into this album 0:51:26.320 --> 0:51:29.799 and then everyone could just download the pictures from that album. Now, 0:51:30.200 --> 0:51:33.439 now if that doesn't work, you can also just open 0:51:33.520 --> 0:51:37.840 up a Dropbox account and easily have everyone drag and 0:51:37.920 --> 0:51:40.879 drop their pictures into that shared folder and that way 0:51:40.880 --> 0:51:43.600 everyone could download the pictures as well. The problem is, 0:51:43.680 --> 0:51:45.400 I know you got a lot of folks on iPhones 0:51:45.440 --> 0:51:48.640 in the group because that's typically what happens, and they 0:51:48.680 --> 0:51:50.920 want to use all Apple stuff. The problem is Apple 0:51:50.960 --> 0:51:53.759 stuff does not play nicely with any other stuff. So 0:51:54.000 --> 0:51:56.640 my advice is to stay away from the Apple centric 0:51:56.719 --> 0:51:59.279 tools and to use stuff that is what I call 0:51:59.320 --> 0:52:04.279 cross platform. Matt Does that help you, Matthew, Yes it does. 0:52:04.400 --> 0:52:07.080 And what's something like like setting up a free web 0:52:07.120 --> 0:52:10.680 page through the Google web page? The system for an 0:52:10.719 --> 0:52:13.120 itinerary be a good system as well. 0:52:13.800 --> 0:52:15.440 Yeah, I mean that's a you know, like if you 0:52:15.560 --> 0:52:17.759 just use Google sites and just you know, make it 0:52:17.800 --> 0:52:19.560 so that only your family can access it. 0:52:19.600 --> 0:52:20.200 Absolutely. 0:52:20.440 --> 0:52:23.439 Now, I'm sure there are some websites that are specifically 0:52:23.480 --> 0:52:27.719 tailored towards family reunion planning. The problem is there's those 0:52:27.760 --> 0:52:30.880 are probably operating on a freemium model, which means some 0:52:30.960 --> 0:52:32.480 of the stuff is going to be free and then 0:52:32.560 --> 0:52:34.120 some of the stuff you really want to use is 0:52:34.160 --> 0:52:37.200 going to cost you money, which you know you may 0:52:37.320 --> 0:52:39.640 or may not want to pay for. I think with 0:52:39.680 --> 0:52:42.160 all the free tools out there, you can easily do 0:52:42.239 --> 0:52:44.960 this stuff and make an itinerary if you want to 0:52:44.960 --> 0:52:49.400 do an itinerary that's shared with people. With folks, we 0:52:49.480 --> 0:52:52.520 talked about an app called Tripsy, and that might be 0:52:52.560 --> 0:52:55.040 a good way where you can share and put everyone's 0:52:55.400 --> 0:53:00.960 arrival information, hotel information, car rental whatever into one shared 0:53:01.040 --> 0:53:03.520 itinerary as well. So that's a good app. It's called 0:53:03.520 --> 0:53:08.200 Tripsy trips y last I checked, though, hold on, I 0:53:08.280 --> 0:53:12.920 might be actually, I might be contradicting myself because Tripsy 0:53:13.080 --> 0:53:16.840 might be just iOS and I think it is. 0:53:17.080 --> 0:53:19.440 Actually, if we had something like that, that would be 0:53:19.480 --> 0:53:21.719 perfect because we've got people coming from all corners of 0:53:21.719 --> 0:53:24.080 the country. Most people live in Orange County, but they're 0:53:24.080 --> 0:53:29.319 coming from Arizona, people from Baltimore, Portland, all over. And 0:53:29.400 --> 0:53:32.920 we're doing multiple events from Catalina Island to not Sperry 0:53:33.080 --> 0:53:37.240 Farm Cocktail Lounge and dinner night out in La because 0:53:37.239 --> 0:53:39.480 some of the family lives in LA. All kinds of 0:53:39.520 --> 0:53:42.560 things that get together just for the ants and uncles. 0:53:42.560 --> 0:53:45.239 Because my dad's one of nine kids. We're one. I'm 0:53:45.239 --> 0:53:49.319 one of twenty eight grandkids and twenty two great grandkids. 0:53:49.360 --> 0:53:51.480 So we've got a lot of cousins and second cousins 0:53:51.520 --> 0:53:54.480 getting together. We're doing multiple events, things for the adults, 0:53:54.520 --> 0:53:56.920 things for the adults with kids. So it would be 0:53:56.960 --> 0:53:58.479 nice to be able to know where people are saying, 0:53:58.520 --> 0:54:00.640 are you staying in a family members? How are you 0:54:00.680 --> 0:54:03.200 staying in a hotel? So we can all carpool because 0:54:03.200 --> 0:54:05.800 once you get to LA or Orange County, it's twenty 0:54:05.840 --> 0:54:08.120 five dollars to park, and that's very farm. It's thirty 0:54:08.160 --> 0:54:11.120 dollars to valet park in La at the carpool and 0:54:11.160 --> 0:54:12.600 save the money on the parking. 0:54:12.760 --> 0:54:15.040 It sounds like you've done your homework. Check out Trippet. 0:54:15.080 --> 0:54:16.560 I think that's going to be a better place for 0:54:16.600 --> 0:54:20.040 the shared itinerary because that's going to help you cross 0:54:20.080 --> 0:54:22.160 platform as well. It sounds like a lot of fun. 0:54:22.200 --> 0:54:24.440 I want to join you enjoy the family reunion. 0:54:24.480 --> 0:54:24.840 Matthew. 0:54:25.040 --> 0:54:27.080 All right, coming up, we are talking to Marty Cooper, 0:54:27.680 --> 0:54:31.799 the father of the smartphone. You're listening to rich on Tech. 0:54:33.440 --> 0:54:37.120 Welcome back to rich on Tech. Rich DeMuro here with 0:54:37.320 --> 0:54:41.120 you talking technology at triple eight Rich one oh one 0:54:41.320 --> 0:54:43.239 eight eight eight seven. 0:54:43.120 --> 0:54:46.479 Four to two four one zero one. 0:54:47.239 --> 0:54:48.759 You know if you listen to this show, one of 0:54:48.800 --> 0:54:52.239 my favorite topics in the world is the smartphone. But 0:54:52.320 --> 0:54:56.400 before there were smartphones, there were cell phones. And joining 0:54:56.440 --> 0:54:59.759 me now very excited for Martin Cooper. He is known 0:54:59.800 --> 0:55:03.520 as as the father of the cell phone, author of 0:55:03.680 --> 0:55:08.640 cutting the cord. The cell phone has transformed humanity. Martin, 0:55:08.640 --> 0:55:12.480 thanks so much for joining me, Hi pleasure, Rich do 0:55:12.520 --> 0:55:13.720 you go by Martin or Marty? 0:55:13.719 --> 0:55:14.279 What can I call? 0:55:14.320 --> 0:55:14.400 You? 0:55:15.280 --> 0:55:16.680 Call me? Marty is the old friend? 0:55:17.840 --> 0:55:18.640 Okay? Perfect? 0:55:18.719 --> 0:55:23.480 So Marty, you made one of the first calls ever 0:55:23.680 --> 0:55:26.359 on a handheld device. Can you bring me back to 0:55:26.360 --> 0:55:26.839 that day? 0:55:28.719 --> 0:55:33.600 I sure can. It was very Actually not the first call, Rich, 0:55:34.080 --> 0:55:37.120 it was the first public call. And you can bet 0:55:37.160 --> 0:55:40.400 that seemed to pluck that clothes together. But are tested 0:55:40.440 --> 0:55:43.320 at a hand of times. And before we took after 0:55:44.080 --> 0:55:49.560 this is April third, Tetivity three, and the locale was 0:55:49.719 --> 0:55:53.360 the New York City instead of the New York And 0:55:53.480 --> 0:55:58.360 the purpose of our call let's demonstrate to the world 0:55:58.960 --> 0:56:02.560 that it was possible to have the freedom that comes 0:56:02.560 --> 0:56:06.080 from being able to talk anywhere. And he placed on 0:56:06.080 --> 0:56:10.799 a personal phone. At the time, if you wanted to 0:56:10.840 --> 0:56:13.680 have a wired phone, there was only one way to 0:56:13.719 --> 0:56:17.440 get in the US, and that one's mini filmed the 0:56:17.560 --> 0:56:22.520 monopoly AT and T have. Their vision of the feature was, 0:56:22.920 --> 0:56:27.800 won't believe it's car phone? Oh yeah, we did trapped 0:56:27.800 --> 0:56:31.520 in our houses in office by that wire for over 0:56:31.560 --> 0:56:34.200 one hundred years. And now to day a belt and 0:56:34.400 --> 0:56:36.719 created the first phone. And now they were going to 0:56:36.760 --> 0:56:39.920 trap it to Paris. Now that was ata we did. 0:56:40.200 --> 0:56:43.920 We go and we were trying to persuade the sec 0:56:44.920 --> 0:56:47.880 that the first of all, there should be a monopoly. 0:56:48.400 --> 0:56:51.840 The second of all the time was really for personal 0:56:52.200 --> 0:56:57.160 all portable boats. Wow, pumpassing our demastation. 0:56:57.760 --> 0:57:00.760 And so you were forty four years old, you stepped 0:57:00.800 --> 0:57:04.920 outside onto sixth Avenue outside the New York Hilton, and 0:57:05.040 --> 0:57:05.880 you made a call. 0:57:05.880 --> 0:57:10.600 To who uh you won't from majors And it was 0:57:10.800 --> 0:57:14.520 very deg We were so worried about whether the forward 0:57:14.680 --> 0:57:17.200 work in the first place. I never thought about who 0:57:17.280 --> 0:57:19.280 I was going to call, and I was competently reported 0:57:19.320 --> 0:57:25.800 as too rich, and I uh decided to call my 0:57:26.480 --> 0:57:30.040 counterparts in the Bell system, someone that worked for at 0:57:30.320 --> 0:57:34.919 T is say it to a ango, and Joe's role 0:57:35.200 --> 0:57:38.960 in at G was still shut up the Mary so 0:57:39.880 --> 0:57:44.080 Car telephone system. Certainly we disagree with each other, and 0:57:44.200 --> 0:57:47.360 not that he thought about it very often because he 0:57:47.520 --> 0:57:51.560 was representing the biggest company in the world and there 0:57:51.640 --> 0:57:54.480 was just a little billion dollar company that she taught of. 0:57:55.280 --> 0:57:59.160 So I reached in my back pockets to my telephone 0:57:59.200 --> 0:58:04.880 books that must give you a message, what's up? Don't 0:58:04.960 --> 0:58:09.200 go the phone. I won't call them, and remarkably be 0:58:09.440 --> 0:58:15.320 after the phone out of Secretary Joel Barnie Cooper. If 0:58:15.360 --> 0:58:21.720 I'm right, true, I'm calling you, Joe. If I'm a 0:58:23.240 --> 0:58:27.600 have he telephone, but a real help something on personal 0:58:28.240 --> 0:58:32.760 have hell portable cell phone, it's. 0:58:34.600 --> 0:58:34.640 I. 0:58:37.000 --> 0:58:41.000 It's ignored. But to this day Joe doesn't remember that call. 0:58:41.320 --> 0:58:44.000 He doesn't dispute it. I had it, but I really 0:58:44.080 --> 0:58:44.680 don't claim him. 0:58:45.280 --> 0:58:46.000 That's wild. 0:58:46.160 --> 0:58:49.960 So you called your competition to say, look, I'm calling 0:58:50.000 --> 0:58:52.640 you from a phone that's going to work eventually anywhere, 0:58:53.200 --> 0:58:55.160 versus your phones that you were pushing that would be 0:58:55.200 --> 0:58:59.000 installed in cars. And of course I remember the first 0:58:59.080 --> 0:59:01.360 phones were installed in cars, and of course it was 0:59:01.400 --> 0:59:05.320 a bag phone. But you called this first phone a 0:59:06.200 --> 0:59:06.840 shoe phone. 0:59:07.200 --> 0:59:07.400 Why. 0:59:08.920 --> 0:59:11.400 Oh, actually we didn't call it the sea. It was 0:59:12.000 --> 0:59:16.600 xual sponsor to there remember that ut sponsors. I'm not 0:59:16.680 --> 0:59:21.360 going to tell you about You're obviously too young. But 0:59:21.640 --> 0:59:27.400 he was a comedian, uh uh later a secret at 0:59:28.200 --> 0:59:30.560 and he had a telephone and the heel of a 0:59:30.680 --> 0:59:34.240 shoe and uh he actually called a phone of the 0:59:34.320 --> 0:59:40.120 brick because of all the brick way to found and 0:59:40.320 --> 0:59:44.920 it was shake pretty much like a brick. Uh, supe 0:59:46.360 --> 0:59:47.240 Max Spondent. 0:59:48.640 --> 0:59:53.240 So, Marty, how old are you now? I'm not Afore 0:59:54.200 --> 0:59:57.920 what do you make of what you've seen in the. 0:59:58.840 --> 1:00:01.560 History of the cell phone in your lifetime since you 1:00:01.680 --> 1:00:04.680 made this first call? I mean it has come so far. 1:00:06.840 --> 1:00:11.080 Well, first of all, you know, we were certain that 1:00:11.240 --> 1:00:12.960 the cell phone was going to be a big deal. 1:00:13.840 --> 1:00:16.440 We knew that everybody have one, So we told a 1:00:16.560 --> 1:00:19.920 story that some day when you're board, would designed the 1:00:20.000 --> 1:00:23.200 phone number if you didn't answer the phone for them. 1:00:24.680 --> 1:00:27.200 We're pretty close to that. To return to the people, 1:00:27.240 --> 1:00:35.080 I don't have so phones, but uh we could never 1:00:35.240 --> 1:00:39.480 have to addicted that then would be the Internet, digital cameras, 1:00:40.080 --> 1:00:43.320 a non scaling a greater circuit because none of those 1:00:43.400 --> 1:00:50.000 existed AD activities quite know. The marble at the tax 1:00:50.160 --> 1:00:54.000 you had a super computer you quote. I also marble 1:00:54.040 --> 1:00:57.560 at the fact we don't recognize that in the US 1:01:00.120 --> 1:01:05.479 important things to the country. In Africa. It has helped 1:01:05.560 --> 1:01:08.840 take a billion people on the poverty in the last 1:01:09.200 --> 1:01:15.320 five years. That's greatly important. So it's the only thing 1:01:15.400 --> 1:01:19.800 I have to believe. If they were always storied, it's revolution. 1:01:21.600 --> 1:01:25.800 We are about to rember, don't care. We're going to 1:01:25.880 --> 1:01:30.680 release their education, the whole concept of collaboration. It's going 1:01:30.760 --> 1:01:33.360 to make a smaller efficient. It's so that we will 1:01:33.760 --> 1:01:38.680 ultimately eliminate poverty. So we're just at the beginning gift. 1:01:39.360 --> 1:01:39.720 I hope. 1:01:39.800 --> 1:01:42.080 So I hope that's Uh, that's something that happens. 1:01:42.800 --> 1:01:46.280 It's funny because you you kind of expected when these 1:01:46.320 --> 1:01:48.680 phones were first coming out that they're going to be well, 1:01:48.680 --> 1:01:50.520 you knew they were going to be expensive, and obviously 1:01:50.640 --> 1:01:52.920 the first people to get them would be wealthier folks. 1:01:53.840 --> 1:01:56.000 But you said the biggest users. According to this Wall 1:01:56.000 --> 1:01:59.600 Street Journal article which was in last week's journal, from 1:01:59.600 --> 1:02:02.600 the shoot phone to the smartphone, Uh, the first folks 1:02:02.640 --> 1:02:05.640 to buy these were real estate people because you know 1:02:05.760 --> 1:02:08.560 they could make money off of these phones. But now 1:02:08.840 --> 1:02:12.479 obviously everyone pretty much has one here in the US. 1:02:13.120 --> 1:02:15.880 And addiction, cell phone addiction. I mean you go to 1:02:15.960 --> 1:02:18.040 a Starbucks, people are waiting in line. They're no longer 1:02:18.120 --> 1:02:20.320 talking to each other, they are looking at their phone. 1:02:20.840 --> 1:02:23.480 What do you make of things like TikTok and all 1:02:23.560 --> 1:02:26.320 of the addiction issues around cell phones. 1:02:28.000 --> 1:02:30.479 Well, this is not a new phenomen of this. Every 1:02:30.560 --> 1:02:36.320 time you have a new technology, there's some baggage. Let's 1:02:36.400 --> 1:02:40.000 have the personal way that addicted you're also to the 1:02:40.120 --> 1:02:44.919 I think community will be too young because by age, 1:02:45.640 --> 1:02:51.080 everybody is too young. But uh, you think about it. 1:02:52.000 --> 1:02:56.840 Maybe something months ago people were complaining about people of 1:02:56.880 --> 1:03:01.720 the teg addicted to television. Seriously, Yeah, people have a 1:03:01.760 --> 1:03:10.280 lot of people. Somehow society of the danage get over that. 1:03:11.480 --> 1:03:13.440 I think they're gonna get over the cell phone addiction 1:03:13.560 --> 1:03:18.320 as well. It's a problem, but uh, people are smart. 1:03:18.400 --> 1:03:21.840 You have to have comedy. People will work it out, 1:03:22.720 --> 1:03:24.800 and that's a benefits of cell phone. 1:03:26.080 --> 1:03:30.560 Somebody definitely, Well they've certainly they've certainly made our lives 1:03:30.680 --> 1:03:32.880 more efficient, They've made a more interesting. 1:03:33.480 --> 1:03:33.600 Uh. 1:03:33.800 --> 1:03:36.640 People make a living off of their smartphones in so 1:03:36.760 --> 1:03:40.040 many different ways. Uh, Marty Cooper, author of Cutting the 1:03:40.160 --> 1:03:43.920 Cord The Cell Phone has Transformed Humanity. Thanks so much 1:03:43.960 --> 1:03:45.880 for joining me today. I really appreciate Do you still 1:03:46.000 --> 1:03:47.080 do you still carry a phone? 1:03:47.200 --> 1:03:47.960 At this point. 1:03:49.280 --> 1:03:56.280 You're kidding, of course, committing this ton of the people 1:03:56.320 --> 1:03:59.320 of cell Phones Center, But I actually have the two 1:03:59.360 --> 1:04:02.360 cell phones that I and when I travel over to 1:04:02.520 --> 1:04:06.320 eight in one in the US, most things I'd like 1:04:06.360 --> 1:04:10.000 to play every different telephone in it. If you're a 1:04:10.080 --> 1:04:12.640 manufacturer and you come up with a new teacher that 1:04:12.760 --> 1:04:15.680 you always know, you could show one to Marty Cooper. 1:04:15.960 --> 1:04:16.400 I love it. 1:04:16.960 --> 1:04:18.880 Marty Cooper, thanks so much for joining me today. I 1:04:19.040 --> 1:04:20.439 really appreciate it. Again. 1:04:20.560 --> 1:04:23.560 The book is Cutting the Cord the Cell Phone has 1:04:23.760 --> 1:04:27.160 Transformed Humanity, available on Amazon. 1:04:28.680 --> 1:04:30.480 I mean, just so much history there. 1:04:31.400 --> 1:04:33.840 I mean, I think of my short history of owning 1:04:34.240 --> 1:04:37.480 cell phones and smartphones and to be there making one 1:04:37.480 --> 1:04:40.720 of the first public calls. Triple eight rich one on 1:04:40.800 --> 1:04:43.680 one eight eight eight seven four to two four one 1:04:44.000 --> 1:04:46.520 zero one. Give me a call on a cell phone 1:04:46.600 --> 1:04:49.320 or a landline. You're listening to rich on Tech. 1:04:52.760 --> 1:04:54.680 Welcome back to rich on Tech. 1:04:54.800 --> 1:04:57.480 My name is rich DeMuro, hanging out with you talking 1:04:57.640 --> 1:05:03.160 technology and thanks to the magic of technology keeping an 1:05:03.200 --> 1:05:06.000 eye on my son's Little League game. How amazing is 1:05:06.080 --> 1:05:09.240 this the fact that we live in a world and 1:05:09.360 --> 1:05:13.840 a time where Little League games are streamed online. And 1:05:13.920 --> 1:05:16.480 when they told me this, I sat there and I said, 1:05:16.520 --> 1:05:20.960 who needs that? I mean, okay, grandparents, people watching from 1:05:21.000 --> 1:05:24.920 out of state, whatever. But now I see why it's 1:05:25.080 --> 1:05:28.040 right here in front of me and it's live. That's 1:05:28.080 --> 1:05:31.320 pretty incredible. So got to love this stuff, you really do. 1:05:31.840 --> 1:05:34.240 Phone lines are open at triple eight Rich one O 1:05:34.240 --> 1:05:37.560 one eight eight eight seven four to two four. 1:05:37.680 --> 1:05:41.840 One zero one. Glenn is in Las Vegas. Glenn, You're 1:05:41.880 --> 1:05:43.800 on with Rich Hi. 1:05:44.000 --> 1:05:44.240 Rich. 1:05:44.960 --> 1:05:48.320 When my wife is on the phone call in their 1:05:48.400 --> 1:05:49.439 home office. 1:05:49.520 --> 1:05:53.120 If I start up or car, it grabs the cell 1:05:54.000 --> 1:05:57.760 signal and it won't let go until I'm like, you know, 1:05:58.680 --> 1:06:03.360 out of range. Yeah, it's a way to decrease the 1:06:03.800 --> 1:06:07.560 range from thirty feet to ten feet, or to be 1:06:07.640 --> 1:06:11.200 able to signal blocker or something not that I know of. 1:06:11.480 --> 1:06:14.800 This is a problem in my house as well. It's 1:06:14.960 --> 1:06:20.000 really a problem because when my wife starts, well, when 1:06:20.040 --> 1:06:23.080 she starts my car and she's in it, somehow it's 1:06:23.160 --> 1:06:26.440 grabbing my phone inside and so all the settings are 1:06:26.480 --> 1:06:29.360 for me and not her, and so this is a 1:06:29.480 --> 1:06:33.280 pain and I really don't have an answer. I think 1:06:34.080 --> 1:06:37.640 now there are some provisions inside the car to have 1:06:37.720 --> 1:06:41.400 what's called a priority device. In certain cars, you may 1:06:41.440 --> 1:06:43.360 be able to look for that in the Bluetooth settings, 1:06:43.400 --> 1:06:47.560 but that doesn't really help because it doesn't go by proximity. 1:06:47.600 --> 1:06:49.680 It just goes by If it sees both devices at 1:06:49.680 --> 1:06:53.240 the same time, it'll choose the one that it says 1:06:53.360 --> 1:06:53.960 is priority. 1:06:54.800 --> 1:06:56.640 But I don't really have an answer for you. 1:06:56.800 --> 1:06:58.720 And this is kind of a going to be a 1:06:58.720 --> 1:07:00.760 bigger and bigger issue, I think for a lot of 1:07:00.800 --> 1:07:02.960 people because of these phones. 1:07:03.080 --> 1:07:05.080 So how do you get around it? 1:07:05.160 --> 1:07:05.280 Now? 1:07:05.360 --> 1:07:05.760 What do you do? 1:07:07.600 --> 1:07:09.720 We haven't figured it out, and that's why I'm calling you. 1:07:10.120 --> 1:07:13.800 I was hoping that somebody would have a Bluetooth signal 1:07:13.840 --> 1:07:17.520 blocker that wouldn't screw up Wi Fi signals, but apparently 1:07:17.920 --> 1:07:21.160 they're similar enough that you screw up when you screwed 1:07:21.240 --> 1:07:21.680 up everything. 1:07:22.000 --> 1:07:23.920 Yeah, I don't think that that and that kind of 1:07:24.000 --> 1:07:27.880 thing would. It'd be kind of tricky to implement too, 1:07:28.040 --> 1:07:30.280 because it's just so like where do you put it 1:07:30.400 --> 1:07:32.320 and how does that work? And you know, what's the 1:07:32.400 --> 1:07:35.320 provisions on it? But Glenn, I don't really have a 1:07:35.360 --> 1:07:37.880 good answer. Now, maybe by putting this on the show, 1:07:39.240 --> 1:07:41.200 someone will email in and say, here's what I do. 1:07:41.520 --> 1:07:44.440 So I'll give my email address. It's hello at Rich 1:07:44.560 --> 1:07:45.479 on tech dot TV. 1:07:45.760 --> 1:07:49.479 If you've figured out a way to keep your phone 1:07:49.560 --> 1:07:52.800 from connecting to your spouse's car, your partner's car, or 1:07:53.360 --> 1:07:56.600 you know whatever, let us know, because it is a 1:07:57.040 --> 1:07:59.120 Every time I get into my car, I don't know 1:07:59.160 --> 1:08:01.240 why it chooses the wrong phone, Like it's just the 1:08:01.400 --> 1:08:03.760 it plays like the opposite game, Like if I'm getting 1:08:03.800 --> 1:08:05.960 in it's it's like, oh, let me pick Rich's wife's 1:08:06.000 --> 1:08:08.600 car or a wife's phone in the house. And also 1:08:09.000 --> 1:08:11.120 the phone is in the house, it's so far away, 1:08:11.760 --> 1:08:14.160 like why is it choosing that over the phone that's 1:08:14.200 --> 1:08:17.280 right next to it. So maybe the next level, Glenn, 1:08:17.320 --> 1:08:20.880 will be a proximity sensor in these cars to say, hey, 1:08:20.960 --> 1:08:24.120 we're measuring this bluetooth phone to be a foot away. Well, 1:08:24.160 --> 1:08:26.240 that one's thirty feet let's let's connect to the one 1:08:26.280 --> 1:08:28.599 that's a foot away. That would make more sense to me, right. 1:08:29.520 --> 1:08:32.439 Well, yeah, although if if I'm not on my phone, 1:08:32.479 --> 1:08:35.599 it'll still grab then the only the only signal that's 1:08:35.640 --> 1:08:36.120 coming through. 1:08:36.240 --> 1:08:40.160 I guess, yeah, I mean the only. Yeah. 1:08:40.360 --> 1:08:41.920 I think you got to warn your wife when you 1:08:42.240 --> 1:08:44.160 go to start the car and say, hey, turn off 1:08:44.160 --> 1:08:45.240 the Bluetooth on your phone. 1:08:45.360 --> 1:08:47.840 I'm going to start the car. But that doesn't sound 1:08:47.880 --> 1:08:48.960 like a very good solution to me. 1:08:50.240 --> 1:08:52.400 Yeah, I mean turning it off and back on again 1:08:52.640 --> 1:08:57.160 is not a two second affair. No, especially when she's 1:08:57.200 --> 1:08:58.400 in the middle of a phone call. 1:08:58.680 --> 1:09:01.719 No, that's definitely a pain. Well, if I find anything, 1:09:01.800 --> 1:09:03.320 I will mention it on the show. But that's a 1:09:03.360 --> 1:09:05.640 great question and hopefully we get some answers. The other 1:09:05.720 --> 1:09:10.040 problem I have is, for some reason, the cellular signal 1:09:10.320 --> 1:09:12.599 right in front of my house. It's got the Wi 1:09:12.720 --> 1:09:16.519 Fi and the cellular compete, and so I can't get 1:09:16.600 --> 1:09:19.080 anything to happen on my car until I drive down 1:09:19.120 --> 1:09:22.160 the street and it finally unlocks from my Wi Fi 1:09:22.320 --> 1:09:24.400 signal and gets on the cellular signal. I mean, it's 1:09:24.439 --> 1:09:26.960 a whole big thing with these cars. I'm telling you, 1:09:27.320 --> 1:09:31.680 we love this stuff, but yeah, it's tricky sometimes. All right, 1:09:32.320 --> 1:09:36.439 let's go to Nancy and Santa Monica. Nancy, you're on 1:09:36.560 --> 1:09:36.920 with Rich. 1:09:38.280 --> 1:09:38.920 Well, Hi, Rich. 1:09:39.240 --> 1:09:45.000 My question is about Wi Fi for your home. We 1:09:45.200 --> 1:09:51.920 have a three node links system and it's performing pretty well. 1:09:52.120 --> 1:09:55.880 But when we went through some technical issues a short 1:09:55.960 --> 1:09:59.400 time back, it was suggested to me that we get 1:09:59.800 --> 1:10:04.280 an another node which would become the main node and 1:10:04.520 --> 1:10:06.800 with links as they call it, the parent you know, 1:10:07.040 --> 1:10:11.880 versus the other nodes or the child nodes, Except that 1:10:12.520 --> 1:10:15.840 as I look at the parent node that they're suggesting, 1:10:16.280 --> 1:10:19.920 it indicates that it has a range of twenty seven 1:10:20.720 --> 1:10:24.080 one hundred square feet. Yeah, they say that, but the 1:10:24.160 --> 1:10:27.360 one I have says it will do six thousand square 1:10:27.439 --> 1:10:30.720 feet and it is doing the coverage that we need. 1:10:31.920 --> 1:10:35.400 I guess I'm wondering if I change out to this 1:10:35.920 --> 1:10:40.880 new node, which supposedly has better security and performance, but 1:10:41.000 --> 1:10:44.559 it's only twenty seven hundred in terms of its range, 1:10:45.479 --> 1:10:49.120 is it going to override the sixty six hundred that 1:10:50.120 --> 1:10:53.280 or the six thousand that I already have, or will 1:10:53.439 --> 1:10:54.280 will that stay? 1:10:54.640 --> 1:10:54.840 Well? 1:10:54.880 --> 1:10:56.960 Okay, so first off, what system do you have? You 1:10:57.040 --> 1:10:57.679 have a link SYS. 1:10:57.760 --> 1:11:02.200 What's it's I'm not sure how you say that? Velop 1:11:02.439 --> 1:11:05.840 the LP and so AC sixty six. 1:11:05.840 --> 1:11:08.000 Hundred and so why do you need the new one? 1:11:08.080 --> 1:11:09.160 What's what's not working? 1:11:09.720 --> 1:11:09.920 Well? 1:11:10.800 --> 1:11:17.600 It they think that I that I need more security, 1:11:18.000 --> 1:11:20.880 and I guess I'm not sure that that's really true. 1:11:21.479 --> 1:11:24.559 I mean, I'm not having anyone you know who. 1:11:24.479 --> 1:11:28.680 Thinks that you need more security links this? I mean, 1:11:28.720 --> 1:11:30.200 are they do they call you to tell you this? 1:11:30.560 --> 1:11:31.040 How do you know? 1:11:31.720 --> 1:11:31.920 Well? 1:11:32.120 --> 1:11:34.960 It was it was through the troubleshooting that we did 1:11:35.080 --> 1:11:38.559 with a problem that we had a couple months back 1:11:39.280 --> 1:11:43.280 working well, the system just like crashed. 1:11:44.160 --> 1:11:46.880 It crashed, yeah, but but we. 1:11:46.960 --> 1:11:48.880 Were able to bring it all back. But you have 1:11:49.000 --> 1:11:53.679 to go through this process of bringing up the parent 1:11:53.840 --> 1:11:56.040 node and then you have to bring all the child 1:11:56.200 --> 1:11:59.200 nodes next to the parent and okay, and you know, 1:11:59.320 --> 1:12:01.599 go through the of getting them all. 1:12:01.920 --> 1:12:05.000 Okay, So the coverage, the coverage that they're talking about 1:12:05.320 --> 1:12:09.320 is six thousand square feet combined for this entire system. 1:12:09.360 --> 1:12:11.920 I don't think it's one node that's giving you six thousand. 1:12:12.080 --> 1:12:13.679 So that's number one, okay, Okay. 1:12:13.960 --> 1:12:17.879 Number two? Is this system old? Is it not supported anymore? 1:12:18.200 --> 1:12:21.320 It looks like it was first available in twenty nineteen, 1:12:21.960 --> 1:12:23.680 So are they is this kind of like out of 1:12:23.800 --> 1:12:25.639 like they're not really supporting it much anymore? 1:12:25.720 --> 1:12:27.880 Is that what I'm well, we were able to get 1:12:27.960 --> 1:12:31.280 support for it in terms of, you know, help in 1:12:32.880 --> 1:12:35.080 restarting it, and they're not telling us that we have 1:12:35.200 --> 1:12:37.559 to throw away the nose that are part. 1:12:37.439 --> 1:12:38.439 Of what this is. 1:12:39.080 --> 1:12:42.720 It's just that they seem to think that, you know, 1:12:42.840 --> 1:12:49.400 we'd have better security and better performance, okay with adding 1:12:49.880 --> 1:12:51.280 this extra Okay. 1:12:51.880 --> 1:12:53.080 So here's my thoughts on this. 1:12:53.200 --> 1:12:55.040 Number One, if things are working the way you need 1:12:55.080 --> 1:12:57.559 them to and your software is up to date, then 1:12:57.720 --> 1:12:59.519 I think you're fine. I don't think you need to 1:12:59.600 --> 1:13:02.160 change any thing. I think what they're talking about is 1:13:02.280 --> 1:13:06.439 the nodes themselves are six thousand across, the three of them, 1:13:07.040 --> 1:13:09.240 and so if you're getting this new node and you're 1:13:09.240 --> 1:13:11.840 going to connect these two access points to it that 1:13:11.920 --> 1:13:14.080 you already have or three, you can you know, maybe 1:13:14.200 --> 1:13:17.240 use all three of them, right, You would just expand 1:13:17.320 --> 1:13:19.200 your coverage that way. So if they work with the 1:13:19.280 --> 1:13:21.120 new system and you feel like you want to get 1:13:21.200 --> 1:13:24.799 that and you want to improve security and improve coverage 1:13:24.840 --> 1:13:27.040 and all that good stuff, and it's a newer system, 1:13:27.120 --> 1:13:29.400 than go with it. Otherwise, if what you have is 1:13:29.479 --> 1:13:31.280 working and your software is up to date, I think 1:13:31.320 --> 1:13:31.920 you're just fine. 1:13:32.160 --> 1:13:35.439 So that would be my advice. Nancy, thanks so much 1:13:35.479 --> 1:13:36.160 for give me a call. 1:13:36.840 --> 1:13:39.120 Triple eight rich one on one eight eight eight seven 1:13:39.240 --> 1:13:41.680 four to two, four to one zero one. Coming up, 1:13:42.240 --> 1:13:44.559 we'll talk about tap to pay and why some customers 1:13:44.600 --> 1:13:47.800 are saying their credit cards are being charged even through 1:13:47.840 --> 1:13:48.559 their bags. 1:13:48.720 --> 1:13:50.479 You're listening to rich on Tech. 1:13:51.760 --> 1:13:55.160 Welcome back to rich On Tech. Phone lines are open 1:13:55.320 --> 1:13:58.120 at eight eight eight rich one O one eight eight 1:13:58.240 --> 1:14:02.439 eight seven four to two for one zero one. Don 1:14:02.560 --> 1:14:04.479 is in my home state of New Jersey. 1:14:05.400 --> 1:14:07.960 Don, you're on with rich Bitch. 1:14:08.000 --> 1:14:08.679 Hollr you Bud. 1:14:08.920 --> 1:14:09.679 I'm doing great. 1:14:11.760 --> 1:14:14.840 I'm back in my backyard in Mammouth County, New Jersey, 1:14:15.200 --> 1:14:18.720 taking out grass in my pavers nice to fix the 1:14:19.439 --> 1:14:23.639 water the water problem with one of my sprinkler heads. 1:14:24.080 --> 1:14:26.479 And I'm listening and I have the answer for the 1:14:26.560 --> 1:14:30.280 gentleman that just called. I play tennis in the morning, 1:14:30.360 --> 1:14:35.120 early birds they call it. And I'll use next DNS 1:14:35.520 --> 1:14:38.320 to take out some ads while I'm looking at threads 1:14:38.360 --> 1:14:41.479 and different things, so it's less ads to worry about, Okay, 1:14:42.280 --> 1:14:46.680 if I forget to turn off next dnx DNS, or 1:14:46.880 --> 1:14:50.000 you could use Google one if those that have a 1:14:50.600 --> 1:14:54.000 VPN any VPN that's left on will kill the connection. 1:14:55.479 --> 1:14:57.439 So if you put your phone on in your house 1:14:57.720 --> 1:14:59.760 with a VPN on it, it won't connect to your 1:14:59.760 --> 1:15:02.800 wife car or to your car while your wife using it. 1:15:03.600 --> 1:15:04.639 It blocks a signal. 1:15:04.960 --> 1:15:08.679 Now that would be for Wi Fi, but not necessarily Bluetooth. 1:15:08.800 --> 1:15:14.640 Right, definitely Wi Fi. But one of the problems that 1:15:14.760 --> 1:15:19.679 I get is the initial connection with Android auto starts 1:15:19.720 --> 1:15:23.400 with Bluetooth, I believe, and then then then connects to 1:15:23.479 --> 1:15:26.559 the VP or to the Wi Fi if. 1:15:26.479 --> 1:15:29.200 You're if you're doing wireless, you mean maybe yeah, and 1:15:29.240 --> 1:15:34.800 I do a wireless connection with gongle, Yeah, yeah, yeah, 1:15:34.840 --> 1:15:36.800 I mean I could see that's a good solution for 1:15:36.880 --> 1:15:38.760 the Wi Fi portion of it. 1:15:39.000 --> 1:15:41.800 But the Bluetooth, I still think there's there's still an 1:15:41.920 --> 1:15:46.400 unknown uh an unknown there, so we still got to 1:15:46.439 --> 1:15:47.000 figure that out. 1:15:47.439 --> 1:15:51.880 But well, you could do a routine in one of 1:15:53.040 --> 1:15:55.760 I have routines on my Samsung phone because I have 1:15:55.840 --> 1:15:59.439 a Samsung Galaxy S twenty two Ultra. So if you 1:15:59.520 --> 1:16:03.080 did it when you connected to your car, because your 1:16:03.160 --> 1:16:06.680 car is one of your WiFi favorites, right, and then 1:16:06.720 --> 1:16:08.959 you could do a routine if it if it connects 1:16:09.080 --> 1:16:12.360 and but then again your inconvenience in yourself when you 1:16:12.479 --> 1:16:13.240 connect it like that. 1:16:14.120 --> 1:16:17.639 Yeah, those routines are handy though. Those Uh I used 1:16:17.680 --> 1:16:19.599 to I used to use an app called Tasker. 1:16:19.680 --> 1:16:20.360 Have you ever heard of that? 1:16:20.560 --> 1:16:23.960 Oh yeah, yeah, a little advanced. So yeah, I tried 1:16:24.000 --> 1:16:25.320 it for a few things. 1:16:25.240 --> 1:16:25.959 Way advanced. 1:16:26.160 --> 1:16:28.840 So but I think I think Samsung did a really 1:16:28.880 --> 1:16:33.120 good job of making it very simple with the routines 1:16:33.200 --> 1:16:38.240 in Bixby, and then iPhone has something similar, like they 1:16:38.320 --> 1:16:41.839 call them shortcuts, but they're not really the same because 1:16:42.520 --> 1:16:43.599 I guess it's similar. 1:16:43.840 --> 1:16:46.400 It'll kind of run like a thing that you want 1:16:46.439 --> 1:16:46.760 it to do. 1:16:47.600 --> 1:16:50.320 It never really took off because I feel like the 1:16:50.400 --> 1:16:53.479 iPhone user is not as you know, they're not as 1:16:53.600 --> 1:16:57.400 into that they're the mainstream iPhone user, whereas Android users 1:16:57.439 --> 1:17:00.120 in the past. You know, they chose Android first and 1:17:00.200 --> 1:17:01.880 reason the fact that you can kind of tinker a 1:17:01.920 --> 1:17:02.479 little bit more. 1:17:02.680 --> 1:17:05.200 You know, well, you can also mess with if this 1:17:05.400 --> 1:17:09.920 then that and make it make a recipe an experiment 1:17:10.000 --> 1:17:11.800 with that. So there's a couple of ways that he 1:17:11.880 --> 1:17:13.439 could try to mess with that. 1:17:14.240 --> 1:17:17.439 Yeah, now you're getting real. That's that's yeah, I mean. 1:17:17.479 --> 1:17:20.000 There's well, they're fun it's more or less like, if 1:17:20.160 --> 1:17:25.519 this happens, if this Bluetooth connected car connects at a 1:17:25.600 --> 1:17:29.720 certain time, maybe the wife leaves between six am and 1:17:29.840 --> 1:17:33.080 eight am, then deny connection from that time, and then 1:17:33.120 --> 1:17:36.200 from eight oh one on allow the connection to happen. 1:17:36.280 --> 1:17:38.400 So you can make it a time based trigger. 1:17:38.640 --> 1:17:41.120 Yeah, that might work. I'm trying to think it. 1:17:41.439 --> 1:17:43.560 He always goes to work at a certain time, that 1:17:43.760 --> 1:17:44.240 might work. 1:17:44.640 --> 1:17:47.160 Sounds like she was working from home and he was 1:17:47.280 --> 1:17:51.200 leaving and then that was our Yeah. I don't Yeah, well, 1:17:51.479 --> 1:17:54.000 it sounds like there's definitely uh, there might be some 1:17:54.240 --> 1:17:56.200 options out there, but I think with the Bluetooth it 1:17:56.280 --> 1:17:58.200 does become a little tricky. I wish I wish there 1:17:58.240 --> 1:18:01.000 was a way for the car to sort of identify 1:18:01.760 --> 1:18:04.400 or the card to have more options about which one 1:18:04.479 --> 1:18:07.679 it connected to when, because that would that would really 1:18:07.760 --> 1:18:08.960 solve a lot of these problems. 1:18:09.479 --> 1:18:12.080 What's the what's the weather like in Jersey right. 1:18:12.040 --> 1:18:15.800 Now from me and Mammoth County. It's a little overcast, 1:18:16.160 --> 1:18:18.840 supposed to rain later And are you listening. 1:18:18.600 --> 1:18:20.519 On a radio station out there or is it through 1:18:20.680 --> 1:18:21.360 the iHeart app? 1:18:21.680 --> 1:18:25.160 This is this is Eyewitness weather. This is Don I'm 1:18:25.160 --> 1:18:27.680 looking up in this sky outside the awning over the 1:18:27.800 --> 1:18:31.479 patio back here with half without grass, half with grass. 1:18:31.840 --> 1:18:33.479 Now I meant, how are you listening to the show? 1:18:33.800 --> 1:18:35.800 Is it streaming or through through? 1:18:35.840 --> 1:18:37.559 iHeartRadio headset? 1:18:37.880 --> 1:18:38.240 Awesome? 1:18:38.760 --> 1:18:39.160 I have a. 1:18:40.640 --> 1:18:47.320 Bluetooth headset. One quick question I was when you were 1:18:47.400 --> 1:18:52.599 talking about the the travel app? Was it a few 1:18:52.840 --> 1:18:56.640 a few shows ago where it was only on iPhone available? 1:18:57.439 --> 1:18:59.519 Yes? For the Traveling Flighty? 1:19:00.320 --> 1:19:04.800 Flighty would would an emulator? Would an would a would 1:19:04.840 --> 1:19:08.360 an iOS emulator work on an Android phone where you 1:19:08.400 --> 1:19:11.720 could fool the Android phone into being in an iPhone 1:19:12.040 --> 1:19:15.400 and use the app because it's only it's only iOS 1:19:15.520 --> 1:19:15.840 right now. 1:19:16.240 --> 1:19:20.280 I have not tried that, but I would imagine if 1:19:20.360 --> 1:19:21.360 you had that event. 1:19:21.400 --> 1:19:24.880 Might be a workaround if those that want to try 1:19:24.960 --> 1:19:27.719 it that don't have an iPhone, you aren't as cool 1:19:27.720 --> 1:19:29.360 as the people that use Android. 1:19:29.640 --> 1:19:29.880 Yeah. 1:19:30.439 --> 1:19:32.120 And I asked the developer, I said, you know, why 1:19:32.120 --> 1:19:34.000 aren't you coming out with Android? And he's just like, 1:19:34.080 --> 1:19:36.200 it's not a priority right now. But it is a 1:19:36.280 --> 1:19:38.400 great app. But honestly, I would I think there's a 1:19:38.479 --> 1:19:41.880 lot of I mean, look, Flighty is really nice. It's 1:19:41.880 --> 1:19:43.439 a great app. If you have iOS, but if you 1:19:43.479 --> 1:19:46.599 have Android, just use flight Aware. Also Google is pretty 1:19:46.640 --> 1:19:48.960 good about looking in your calendar and seeing when your 1:19:49.000 --> 1:19:51.200 next flight is. So I get a lot of notifications 1:19:51.240 --> 1:19:54.840 on my Android just from having Google, and that's another 1:19:54.960 --> 1:19:57.599 good way. And then a ward wall is my absolute favorite. 1:19:57.640 --> 1:19:59.800 That gives me a lot of notifications as well. I mean, 1:19:59.800 --> 1:20:03.000 there's trip it, there's so many. Don all right, Don, 1:20:03.080 --> 1:20:04.160 thanks so much for calling today. 1:20:04.160 --> 1:20:06.559 I appreciate it. Say hello to my family in Jersey. 1:20:06.600 --> 1:20:08.960 Okay, all right, thank you, take care. 1:20:10.479 --> 1:20:14.880 Let's see we've got an email question from Kathy. Kathy 1:20:15.000 --> 1:20:17.679 wrote in Hey, Rich, I love your show. I listen 1:20:17.720 --> 1:20:23.440 every Saturday. We're going to the island of Curasow in June. Reportedly, 1:20:23.640 --> 1:20:26.479 Spotify is available for streaming music while we are there. 1:20:26.560 --> 1:20:28.240 Do I need a VPN to do it? If so, 1:20:28.400 --> 1:20:33.840 which one do you recommend? Kathy? Kathy, I don't think 1:20:33.880 --> 1:20:38.519 you need a VPN to stream Spotify. And also it 1:20:38.640 --> 1:20:40.400 depends number one. 1:20:40.520 --> 1:20:43.799 When I travel, I don't, I don't stream, I download, 1:20:44.400 --> 1:20:46.920 So I if I were you, now you have to 1:20:46.960 --> 1:20:50.040 be a Spotify premium subscriber. You didn't say that in 1:20:50.120 --> 1:20:52.479 your email. If you're a Spotify premium or not. So 1:20:53.120 --> 1:20:55.840 if your premium, I would go ahead and just download 1:20:56.080 --> 1:20:59.320 the playlists that you want to listen to while you're 1:20:59.360 --> 1:21:02.280 on vacation, and I'm assuming that's going to be some 1:21:02.400 --> 1:21:03.519 Island style music. 1:21:03.600 --> 1:21:04.360 That's what I would do. 1:21:06.040 --> 1:21:08.400 If that's not you know, if that's not an option 1:21:08.560 --> 1:21:12.599 to you and you're streaming, I believe it would work 1:21:12.720 --> 1:21:15.640 without a VPN, but maybe for a limited amount of 1:21:15.720 --> 1:21:19.400 time because you're not, you know, a paying subscriber. But 1:21:19.640 --> 1:21:22.200 pretty much the way that these systems work. I remember 1:21:22.320 --> 1:21:24.000 back in the day, I had a problem when I 1:21:24.040 --> 1:21:27.560 went to Japan one time and I literally none of 1:21:27.600 --> 1:21:30.320 my music would work the entire week when I was there. 1:21:30.400 --> 1:21:32.480 I mean, this was like it was devastating. 1:21:32.880 --> 1:21:35.519 But things have gotten so kind of worldwide now that 1:21:35.640 --> 1:21:37.720 most things work pretty much everywhere you want to go. 1:21:38.320 --> 1:21:40.799 But the way I would do it is just download 1:21:40.840 --> 1:21:43.720 the music that you want before you go, and then 1:21:44.160 --> 1:21:46.160 that way you're able to listen to it while you're there. 1:21:46.520 --> 1:21:48.280 You can turn on your Wi Fi and see if 1:21:48.280 --> 1:21:50.160 you're able to stream once you're there, and that way 1:21:50.160 --> 1:21:53.720 you'll have your answer if you need a VPN. I 1:21:53.760 --> 1:21:55.360 would look into some of the things that you have. 1:21:55.600 --> 1:21:58.559 If you have Google one, they include a VPN. I've 1:21:58.600 --> 1:22:03.320 got an article on the best VPNs. So the expert 1:22:03.439 --> 1:22:07.840 I talked to recommended a VPN. What was it called, 1:22:08.000 --> 1:22:11.040 like molvat, movad m U l l v A D 1:22:12.200 --> 1:22:16.880 also IPVN, surf Chark and tunnel Bear. We're also recommendations. 1:22:16.920 --> 1:22:18.680 So if you want to get one, you can do that, 1:22:18.760 --> 1:22:21.080 but I don't think you'll need it for this solution. 1:22:21.520 --> 1:22:24.720 The other thing to do, Kathy, is just ditch Spotify 1:22:24.800 --> 1:22:26.639 for the week and go with some of the local music. 1:22:26.720 --> 1:22:29.040 Turn on a radio station. This is what I do 1:22:29.080 --> 1:22:31.639 when I go to a place like Hawaii. Just listen 1:22:31.720 --> 1:22:34.719 to the local stations. You get a little local, local 1:22:34.800 --> 1:22:37.080 flare in your life there. That's what I would do. 1:22:37.800 --> 1:22:38.639 But do both. 1:22:38.760 --> 1:22:40.200 You know you're gonna be on the plane. You're gonna 1:22:40.200 --> 1:22:43.160 watch your music there too, So download the Spotify playlists 1:22:43.320 --> 1:22:47.759 and there you go. Coming up, we're gonna talk about 1:22:47.840 --> 1:22:52.080 this idea of tap to pay. There's an there's an 1:22:52.200 --> 1:22:55.439 article that says some people are being charged for tap 1:22:55.560 --> 1:23:01.080 to pay even though they are not they're not using 1:23:01.160 --> 1:23:03.360 that card. Actually, I'll just tell you about this. Apparently 1:23:03.360 --> 1:23:06.080 I have enough time. This is an article out of 1:23:06.320 --> 1:23:11.200 San Francisco KGO seven on your side. These people are 1:23:11.240 --> 1:23:13.920 saying that their tap to pay credit cards are being 1:23:13.960 --> 1:23:17.280 activated even though they're in their purse or pocket. Now, 1:23:17.840 --> 1:23:19.599 if you would have told me this two weeks ago, 1:23:19.640 --> 1:23:21.439 I would have not believed it. I would have said 1:23:21.720 --> 1:23:23.800 that doesn't happen. But I will tell you this has 1:23:23.840 --> 1:23:27.760 happened to me twice in the last two weeks where 1:23:27.880 --> 1:23:29.000 I took out my card. 1:23:29.080 --> 1:23:30.599 I was at Trader Joe's the other day. 1:23:30.880 --> 1:23:33.000 I literally just took my card out and put it 1:23:33.439 --> 1:23:35.280 just kind of in my hand, and all of a sudden, 1:23:35.840 --> 1:23:38.559 it beeped and it was done. Even the cashier at 1:23:38.600 --> 1:23:40.760 Trader Joe's was like, Wow, that was really far away. 1:23:40.840 --> 1:23:42.760 What do you have like a supercharged card? I said, no, 1:23:42.840 --> 1:23:45.519 I've never seen that happen before. And it happened again 1:23:45.560 --> 1:23:48.240 another time. So I don't know if I believe that 1:23:48.320 --> 1:23:52.920 these things are being activated. One viewer said, Matthews checked 1:23:52.920 --> 1:23:55.280 his bank accounts. Turned out the tap to pay card 1:23:55.320 --> 1:23:58.400 reader at Safeway ignored the debit card in his hand. Instead, 1:23:58.520 --> 1:24:01.280 it reached into Matthew's back pocket, through his wallet and 1:24:01.400 --> 1:24:03.879 charged his bank of America credit card tucked inside. 1:24:04.240 --> 1:24:05.800 Now that seems a little elaborate. 1:24:06.040 --> 1:24:10.560 You're telling me this ore, This NFC chip radio frequency 1:24:11.160 --> 1:24:14.120 went through his wallet in his back pocket. I don't 1:24:14.120 --> 1:24:17.679 know if I believe that, but the reality is, yes, 1:24:18.000 --> 1:24:20.680 tap to pay. I think it works most of the 1:24:20.800 --> 1:24:23.680 time pretty well. And I don't think that this is 1:24:23.720 --> 1:24:25.040 happening in a big way to people. 1:24:25.080 --> 1:24:25.640 But let me know. 1:24:26.000 --> 1:24:28.200 Hello at richon Tech dot TV. Tell me if you've 1:24:28.280 --> 1:24:33.000 gotten a surprise charge because of this. Now, by the way, 1:24:33.000 --> 1:24:34.439 if you're using a debit card, it's going to ask 1:24:34.479 --> 1:24:36.439 for your debit card number or your PIN number. Most 1:24:36.479 --> 1:24:38.559 of the time, Visa says you have to be two 1:24:38.600 --> 1:24:41.000 inches from the reader. And if you want something that 1:24:41.120 --> 1:24:45.000 protects look for an RFID protection wallet. Silent pocket makes 1:24:45.080 --> 1:24:49.680 them silent pocket eighty eight rich one O one eight 1:24:49.760 --> 1:24:52.400 eight eight seven four to two four to one zero one. 1:24:52.479 --> 1:24:55.560 You are listening to rich on Tech. Welcome back to 1:24:56.080 --> 1:24:59.760 rich on Tech. Rich Tamuro here talking technology with you. 1:25:00.000 --> 1:25:05.320 I'm the chech reporter at KTLA Channel five in Los Angeles. Also, 1:25:05.760 --> 1:25:08.360 if you're sitting there saying wait a second, I've seen 1:25:08.400 --> 1:25:12.120 you on a different station. Yes, the segments do go 1:25:12.200 --> 1:25:16.639 out to a variety of TV stations all over the place. 1:25:16.760 --> 1:25:18.519 So I get emails from people saying, I saw you 1:25:18.560 --> 1:25:20.599 when I was on vacation in Hawaii, or I saw 1:25:20.640 --> 1:25:23.880 you when I was in Saint Louis. Yeah, so you 1:25:23.960 --> 1:25:26.680 may see me in different places, but I am headquartered 1:25:26.840 --> 1:25:29.439 in Los Angeles. If you want to see my TV 1:25:29.600 --> 1:25:32.400 segments where I cover a variety of tech topics, just 1:25:32.520 --> 1:25:38.080 go to Rich on tech dot TV. Apple has a 1:25:38.320 --> 1:25:42.400 new high yield savings account. Now this is not a 1:25:42.479 --> 1:25:47.040 financial advice show, but I feel like this is It's 1:25:47.120 --> 1:25:49.439 like everything with Apple. They just continue to get into 1:25:49.680 --> 1:25:55.960 more areas. Apple got into the financial services area with 1:25:56.160 --> 1:25:59.479 their credit card a couple of years back. People seem 1:25:59.560 --> 1:26:03.960 to love it it. I do not have one, But 1:26:04.120 --> 1:26:07.960 now they are doing a high yield savings account and 1:26:08.040 --> 1:26:10.640 this is kind of put some people on on. Uh 1:26:11.600 --> 1:26:15.519 what's the term I'm looking for. I don't know, but 1:26:15.680 --> 1:26:18.479 people are now noticing that, you know this is this 1:26:18.680 --> 1:26:24.360 is offering four point one five interest, which is pretty good. 1:26:25.400 --> 1:26:28.479 Apple says that's more than ten times the national average. 1:26:28.600 --> 1:26:31.640 Now that's a little misleading, because, yeah, the national averages 1:26:31.720 --> 1:26:34.559 includes banks like Chase and Bank of America who don't 1:26:34.640 --> 1:26:37.800 really pay anything. But there's a lot of online banks 1:26:37.840 --> 1:26:40.240 that do pay a lot more than than the you know, 1:26:41.120 --> 1:26:44.840 one percent or whatever. So no fees, no minimum deposits, 1:26:44.960 --> 1:26:48.040 no minimum balance requirements. You can set it up on 1:26:48.080 --> 1:26:48.839 your iPhone. 1:26:48.880 --> 1:26:49.320 You have to. 1:26:49.479 --> 1:26:51.840 Here's the deal. You have to have an iPhone to 1:26:51.880 --> 1:26:54.840 get this savings account. You also have to have a 1:26:54.960 --> 1:26:57.439 credit card, the Apple credit card. They don't call it 1:26:57.439 --> 1:26:59.760 a credit card, they call it the Apple card. They 1:26:59.760 --> 1:27:02.599 don't want to put that dirty credit word in there, 1:27:03.080 --> 1:27:05.200 but yes, it's a credit card. Apple Card is a 1:27:05.240 --> 1:27:09.479 credit card. Once you do that, you can get your 1:27:09.840 --> 1:27:13.439 daily cash reward. So if you use your Apple credit 1:27:13.520 --> 1:27:16.640 card to pay for stuff, you get a tiny bit 1:27:16.680 --> 1:27:19.120 of cash back, and you can now have that cash 1:27:19.200 --> 1:27:22.599 back deposited into this savings account so it will grow interest. 1:27:23.320 --> 1:27:27.519 Now I'm not a financial advice person, but I will 1:27:27.600 --> 1:27:31.000 just give you my thoughts on this. I'm not getting 1:27:31.160 --> 1:27:34.400 a savings account that a requires an iPhone to have 1:27:35.360 --> 1:27:38.640 and b requires a credit card to have. Those are 1:27:38.720 --> 1:27:41.960 just two things that are not I just I'm not 1:27:42.160 --> 1:27:45.880 linking my account to having a certain type of phone 1:27:46.160 --> 1:27:47.280 or a certain type of credit card. 1:27:47.360 --> 1:27:48.200 That's just not happening. 1:27:48.840 --> 1:27:53.680 So with that said, if you want to get a 1:27:54.160 --> 1:27:58.280 high yield savings account like this, there are many other 1:27:58.439 --> 1:28:01.080 accounts that you can look up online that will give 1:28:01.120 --> 1:28:05.360 you similar interests that don't have all of these catches. 1:28:06.040 --> 1:28:09.680 According to MarketWatch, they say, CIT Bank gives you four 1:28:09.720 --> 1:28:14.040 point seventy five percent. BREAD Savings pays four point five upgrade, 1:28:14.080 --> 1:28:16.840 Premier Savings gives you four point five six uf B 1:28:17.040 --> 1:28:20.759 Premier Savings gives you four point eight one percent. CFG 1:28:20.960 --> 1:28:24.479 bank is giving five point oh two percent. Wow, that's 1:28:25.000 --> 1:28:25.479 pretty good. 1:28:26.320 --> 1:28:26.479 Now. 1:28:26.560 --> 1:28:29.200 The thing about a lot of these high yield savings 1:28:29.240 --> 1:28:33.840 accounts is that they require a whole bunch of things. Okay, 1:28:34.000 --> 1:28:38.080 so with this CFG, to get that five point zero 1:28:38.080 --> 1:28:40.080 two you have to have an initial deposit of ten 1:28:40.520 --> 1:28:44.280 one thousand dollars and maintain ten I don't keep saying 1:28:44.280 --> 1:28:47.000 ten thousand, one thousand dollars or you're gonna get a 1:28:47.040 --> 1:28:50.439 ten dollars monthly service fee. So I guess my bottom 1:28:50.520 --> 1:28:53.080 line is that if you're looking to get one of 1:28:53.120 --> 1:28:56.160 these accounts, to try to find one that does not 1:28:56.439 --> 1:28:59.280 have any sort of minimum and does not have any 1:28:59.360 --> 1:29:02.080 sort of fee, because you may say, oh, I've got 1:29:02.120 --> 1:29:04.280 the thousand bucks right now, I'll put that in there, 1:29:04.320 --> 1:29:07.439 and you know, life happens and things change and you 1:29:07.520 --> 1:29:09.320 may not have that thousand in there, and next thing 1:29:09.360 --> 1:29:11.600 you know, you're getting a ten dollars service fee, and 1:29:11.920 --> 1:29:14.400 over ten months that's one hundred bucks, and there goes 1:29:14.439 --> 1:29:18.080 all of your interests that you're getting. So I love 1:29:18.479 --> 1:29:22.240 savings accounts. I love saving money, but I look, if 1:29:22.280 --> 1:29:24.599 you have an iPhone and you've got the Apple credit card, 1:29:25.600 --> 1:29:29.760 you know, fine, but it's it sounds really good, but 1:29:29.840 --> 1:29:32.760 there are some catches, even though Apple says and also, 1:29:32.880 --> 1:29:35.519 I mean this money that you're getting from the daily cash, 1:29:36.240 --> 1:29:38.160 I mean, come on, it's one, two or three percent. 1:29:39.160 --> 1:29:42.479 How much are you transferring into this savings account because 1:29:42.520 --> 1:29:44.680 of that? I mean, if you're saving money based on 1:29:44.800 --> 1:29:48.000 spending money, that's a little little. 1:29:48.320 --> 1:29:50.439 Kind of odd to me. But who what do I know. 1:29:50.520 --> 1:29:55.479 I'm a tech person, not a financial person. Polestar four 1:29:55.880 --> 1:29:59.879 this is uh probably one of my favorite evs. Pollstar 1:30:00.760 --> 1:30:04.480 is owned by Volvo. I did a story on the Polestar. 1:30:05.720 --> 1:30:05.880 Two. 1:30:06.120 --> 1:30:08.439 Was it or the Polestar one? I can't remember at 1:30:08.439 --> 1:30:14.240 this point. Really really nice looking ev beautiful design. Now 1:30:14.280 --> 1:30:16.760 they've got the Polestar four, which is sort of a 1:30:16.920 --> 1:30:21.120 compact suv suv coop they call it. It's got no 1:30:21.240 --> 1:30:24.760 rear window. That's right, no rear window. Now there's not 1:30:24.840 --> 1:30:28.520 an open air part of this car. It is enclosed. 1:30:29.120 --> 1:30:33.240 But basically it's got the roof window which comes down 1:30:33.360 --> 1:30:37.280 and that's it. No traditional back window. And so Polestar 1:30:37.400 --> 1:30:40.960 says that they did this because they wanted to be unique. 1:30:41.920 --> 1:30:45.640 It also, I guess makes the car more aerodynamic. And 1:30:46.479 --> 1:30:48.680 they said, why do we need a rearview window? Why 1:30:48.760 --> 1:30:50.599 do we need it when people are looking at their 1:30:50.640 --> 1:30:53.880 cameras all the time. And so the rear view mirror 1:30:54.560 --> 1:30:58.599 is actually a video feed of a roof mounted rear 1:30:58.720 --> 1:31:03.040 camera and it gives a nice big view. And so 1:31:03.760 --> 1:31:06.680 I've seen this before in cars where the rear view 1:31:06.680 --> 1:31:09.720 mirror is a video feed. The difference is that you 1:31:09.760 --> 1:31:12.160 would flip a switch and it would become a traditional mirror, 1:31:12.240 --> 1:31:14.800 like on the Chevy Bolt one is a is a 1:31:15.240 --> 1:31:17.640 you know, a camera feed and then you flip the 1:31:17.680 --> 1:31:19.599 little you know, how you have that like light dark 1:31:19.840 --> 1:31:22.280 switch on the rear view mirror will instead of a 1:31:22.400 --> 1:31:24.720 light dark kind of thing night day kind of thing. 1:31:25.320 --> 1:31:28.040 It switches to the camera or to an actual mirror. 1:31:28.840 --> 1:31:33.679 So the uh Pollstar designers told Wired that it creates 1:31:33.720 --> 1:31:38.679 a cocoon for the backseat passengers. I also like this feature. 1:31:38.760 --> 1:31:43.840 The rooftop glass is electrochromic, so which means it's kind 1:31:43.840 --> 1:31:45.400 of like those windows if you've ever been on one 1:31:45.400 --> 1:31:47.599 of the new planes. They don't have the shades anymore. 1:31:48.000 --> 1:31:50.840 The windows are electronic, and so you press a button 1:31:51.000 --> 1:31:55.360 to actually close the shade, and it's not a shade, 1:31:55.360 --> 1:31:59.080 it's just like electronic, almost like an LCD liquid display 1:31:59.680 --> 1:32:00.120 that just. 1:32:01.080 --> 1:32:05.439 Goes into the window. Very cool stuff. All right, Coming up, 1:32:05.479 --> 1:32:07.840 we're going to talk to David Kaff of tech Talk. 1:32:08.360 --> 1:32:10.400 He's going to tell us how to remove our personal 1:32:10.560 --> 1:32:14.080 information from the Internet. Very important stuff. If you want 1:32:14.120 --> 1:32:15.240 to give me a call, I got time for a 1:32:15.280 --> 1:32:17.720 little bit more. Triple eight rich one On one eight 1:32:17.800 --> 1:32:22.519 eight eight seven four two four one zero one. Welcome 1:32:22.600 --> 1:32:27.160 back to rich On Tech rich Demiro here talking technology 1:32:27.520 --> 1:32:31.879 with you. Have you ever done a Google search on yourself? 1:32:31.920 --> 1:32:34.920 Have you ever seen how much information is out there 1:32:35.080 --> 1:32:39.320 on the Internet about you? This week Google emailed me 1:32:39.520 --> 1:32:42.439 and said that I've got this new feature called Dark 1:32:42.520 --> 1:32:46.640 Web monitoring, So it looks for my personal information on 1:32:47.400 --> 1:32:50.400 the dark Web and maybe on the web at large. 1:32:51.400 --> 1:32:54.519 And it's just eye opening. How much is out there. 1:32:54.560 --> 1:32:59.360 I mean, everything is out there, and it's it's pretty incredible. 1:33:00.200 --> 1:33:03.200 Joining me now is David Coff. He writes a newsletter 1:33:03.360 --> 1:33:08.320 at www dot technology Talk dot net, and he wrote 1:33:08.320 --> 1:33:13.599 an interesting newsletter this week about getting personal information off 1:33:13.840 --> 1:33:15.720 the Internet and why you should do this. 1:33:16.400 --> 1:33:17.640 David, thanks so much for joining me. 1:33:18.400 --> 1:33:20.040 Thank you for having me pleasure to be here. 1:33:20.479 --> 1:33:24.760 Okay, so let's talk about this PII. What does that 1:33:24.920 --> 1:33:25.320 stand for? 1:33:26.479 --> 1:33:33.760 Personally identifiable information? This is a shorthand acronyms. Some technology 1:33:33.800 --> 1:33:36.720 folks love their acronyms. Just think of it as any 1:33:37.000 --> 1:33:40.880 private or personal information you wouldn't want strangers to know. 1:33:41.080 --> 1:33:44.280 This can be your phone numbers, your email addresses, your 1:33:44.439 --> 1:33:46.760 physical mailing addresses and more. 1:33:47.920 --> 1:33:49.880 And this stuff is out there. How does it get 1:33:50.280 --> 1:33:51.760 on the Internet? And I'm just going to ask you 1:33:52.120 --> 1:33:54.720 if you can talk right into your phone, bes I'm 1:33:55.040 --> 1:33:56.040 having some trouble hearing you. 1:33:56.880 --> 1:34:00.840 I've got my earbuds in. We'll speak a little bit 1:34:00.920 --> 1:34:01.559 louder out. 1:34:01.439 --> 1:34:04.040 Of that perfect So tell me, how does this stuff 1:34:04.040 --> 1:34:04.519 get out there. 1:34:05.880 --> 1:34:12.720 Over time, data brokers collect your information based on harvesting 1:34:12.880 --> 1:34:16.000 publicly available information about you. And if you think about 1:34:16.000 --> 1:34:19.200 all the things that you do. You own a cell phone, 1:34:19.320 --> 1:34:22.840 you make phone calls, you have credit cards, you make purchases, 1:34:23.200 --> 1:34:27.799 you register to vote, you sign up for local, state, 1:34:27.960 --> 1:34:33.480 and federal elections. That information, in many cases. 1:34:33.240 --> 1:34:34.400 Is publicly available. 1:34:35.280 --> 1:34:38.200 What is int publicly available can be purchased from a 1:34:38.320 --> 1:34:40.600 variety of what I like to call feeder companies, so 1:34:40.920 --> 1:34:45.080 social media technology companies. You go online, you're leaving a 1:34:45.120 --> 1:34:49.160 digital trail. This information gets collected and harvested by companies 1:34:49.240 --> 1:34:53.000 known as data brokers, and then they sell that information 1:34:53.800 --> 1:34:58.639 and boy is it accurate. So over time, both public 1:34:58.720 --> 1:35:04.360 and private databases get collected, and a doctu about each 1:35:04.439 --> 1:35:08.160 and every one of us gets formed with an awful 1:35:08.200 --> 1:35:12.519 lot of information, including our credit histories in many examples. 1:35:12.920 --> 1:35:16.120 Now that's just the legitimate sources where these companies are 1:35:16.160 --> 1:35:18.880 going out and finding this stuff and putting it together. 1:35:19.040 --> 1:35:20.639 And if you know, you can just do a search 1:35:20.760 --> 1:35:22.760 like for a people finder, and there's all kinds of 1:35:23.360 --> 1:35:25.519 websites that pop up. But then there's also the stuff 1:35:25.560 --> 1:35:27.679 like I was just talking about like where it gets 1:35:27.800 --> 1:35:31.439 leaked online, like where there's a some sort of data 1:35:31.520 --> 1:35:34.559 breach and that information finds its way onto the internet 1:35:34.600 --> 1:35:38.120 as well. So let's talk about some of these ways 1:35:38.479 --> 1:35:41.960 you went down sort of this kind of trail of 1:35:42.120 --> 1:35:44.320 figuring out how to get this stuff off the internet. 1:35:44.479 --> 1:35:47.679 What's your number one kind of DIY solution? 1:35:48.000 --> 1:35:53.479 First off, So there are people who have taken an 1:35:53.600 --> 1:36:00.519 extremely detailed approach to this, and you can, and I 1:36:00.920 --> 1:36:04.160 have a list of instructions on my website. 1:36:04.760 --> 1:36:09.519 You can go through contact twenty to thirty largest data 1:36:09.600 --> 1:36:13.879 brokers on your own. You can make a written request. 1:36:14.800 --> 1:36:17.040 You can point to the link on their website that 1:36:17.120 --> 1:36:20.040 has your information, let them know that they do not 1:36:20.200 --> 1:36:23.720 have your permission to do it, and you read need 1:36:23.800 --> 1:36:26.920 to give them anywhere from seven to twenty eight days 1:36:27.200 --> 1:36:31.200 to scrub your data. They may ask for additional information 1:36:31.280 --> 1:36:33.920 about you, an ID or something to prove that you 1:36:34.040 --> 1:36:36.200 are who you are. But you can totally do this 1:36:36.520 --> 1:36:40.120 on your own. There are other ways of doing it though, 1:36:40.240 --> 1:36:43.880 for those that don't have the approximately fifteen to thirty 1:36:43.960 --> 1:36:46.200 hours of time that you're going to want to invest 1:36:46.280 --> 1:36:46.880 in doing this. 1:36:47.160 --> 1:36:50.640 Now, I did this myself so I went through and 1:36:50.760 --> 1:36:53.640 I did it for maybe the top five companies or so, 1:36:54.360 --> 1:36:56.920 and it is. It does work. It does take time, 1:36:57.360 --> 1:37:00.000 but you do have to find someone with instructions online. 1:37:00.400 --> 1:37:04.120 I believe I use the website that you talked about. 1:37:04.120 --> 1:37:06.080 I think it's like delete me or is it just 1:37:06.200 --> 1:37:06.600 delete me? 1:37:07.520 --> 1:37:10.200 Yeah, So there are for a small fee. There are 1:37:10.360 --> 1:37:12.600 certain companies to those who don't want to do it 1:37:12.680 --> 1:37:14.400 on your own, and I want to emphasize to your 1:37:14.439 --> 1:37:18.120 listeners you can totally do this for free on your own. 1:37:18.360 --> 1:37:21.240 You're just investing your time. For those that wish to 1:37:21.400 --> 1:37:25.040 invest somewhere between five and six dollars a month. There 1:37:25.080 --> 1:37:28.280 are two companies that I personally use. The first, which 1:37:28.320 --> 1:37:32.479 I prefer as a company called delete me and you 1:37:32.640 --> 1:37:36.400 will with delete me, and the second top choice that 1:37:36.479 --> 1:37:40.160 I use, which is called Incogniti, which is short for incognito. 1:37:41.000 --> 1:37:42.840 You're going to let these folks know who you are. 1:37:42.920 --> 1:37:45.760 You're going to need to provide them with your name, 1:37:45.920 --> 1:37:49.719 your phone number, your addresses, your previous residences, any previous 1:37:49.800 --> 1:37:52.719 emails and phone numbers that may be a red flag 1:37:52.800 --> 1:37:54.560 for some of your listeners. I want to make this 1:37:54.880 --> 1:37:59.800 clear because it's important that data is already publicly available. 1:38:00.560 --> 1:38:04.479 It's available on any one of your credit reports. So 1:38:04.720 --> 1:38:07.160 it's to your best interest if you're hiring a company 1:38:07.200 --> 1:38:10.080 to help you scrub your data, be upfront with them 1:38:10.120 --> 1:38:13.960 about any of your personal information currently and in the past. 1:38:14.080 --> 1:38:17.000 That will enable them to go and target you and 1:38:17.160 --> 1:38:20.400 scrub you from every major and minor data broker and 1:38:20.840 --> 1:38:21.840 public databases. 1:38:23.160 --> 1:38:27.280 Now, what's this app from Consumer Reports? I was not 1:38:27.360 --> 1:38:29.400 aware of this app that you mentioned in your newsletter 1:38:29.520 --> 1:38:33.240 at Technology Talk dot net episode eighty seven. 1:38:33.360 --> 1:38:37.000 By the way, what is this app? It's called let's 1:38:37.000 --> 1:38:39.439 see where is it called Permission Slips? Okay, so what 1:38:39.520 --> 1:38:39.920 does that do? 1:38:40.760 --> 1:38:41.760 So for the record, I. 1:38:41.880 --> 1:38:44.160 Hadn't been aware of it either. One of my readers 1:38:44.280 --> 1:38:47.320 on my newsletter wrote to me and said, hey, are 1:38:47.320 --> 1:38:50.000 you familiar with this? It's from the great Consumer Reports? 1:38:50.120 --> 1:38:52.800 And most people know Consumer Reports is they've been around 1:38:52.840 --> 1:38:56.920 for decades testing on behalf of consumers so that you 1:38:57.000 --> 1:38:59.920 know which products are better than others. Well, they've created 1:39:00.080 --> 1:39:04.360 this free application for iOS and Android. It's called Permission Slip, 1:39:05.400 --> 1:39:08.160 and they do something that I would recommend that everyone 1:39:08.360 --> 1:39:12.280 do in addition to scrubbing their own data. They specifically 1:39:12.360 --> 1:39:17.160 scrub data from commercial websites. So, for example, I had 1:39:17.840 --> 1:39:22.160 a subscription to the Los Angeles Times, I had a 1:39:22.240 --> 1:39:26.840 purchase history and account with Guitar Center. When looking for jobs, 1:39:26.920 --> 1:39:30.000 I had an account on a website called. 1:39:29.880 --> 1:39:31.880 Zip Recruiter, on and on and on. 1:39:32.200 --> 1:39:36.120 And what permission slip does is instead of targeting public 1:39:36.439 --> 1:39:41.760 and private databases, it works with different companies that may 1:39:41.880 --> 1:39:45.639 have your information and basically does the same thing. Invites 1:39:45.760 --> 1:39:48.080 those people to know you don't want them to have 1:39:48.200 --> 1:39:51.760 their information, and they will help be the middleman to 1:39:51.880 --> 1:39:54.920 scrub your data from all of these commercial websites. And 1:39:55.000 --> 1:39:59.160 there are somewhere between thirty and seventy websites that permission 1:39:59.240 --> 1:40:01.280 slip I will help you scrub your data from. 1:40:02.240 --> 1:40:04.240 Very cool. So what did you learn in all this? 1:40:04.760 --> 1:40:06.679 Do you feel like you got to a good place 1:40:06.760 --> 1:40:08.640 with your personal data online or what? 1:40:09.439 --> 1:40:09.639 Yeah? 1:40:09.720 --> 1:40:12.080 I learned two things that's I think a good question. 1:40:12.200 --> 1:40:16.479 The first is anyone can do this and should. The 1:40:16.640 --> 1:40:19.679 second thing, which I think is worth sharing and maybe 1:40:19.920 --> 1:40:22.240 a little bit scary, is that this is something that 1:40:22.400 --> 1:40:24.880 needs to be done fairly regularly. And you were just 1:40:25.040 --> 1:40:29.519 saying there any number of data breaches websites get hacked, 1:40:29.640 --> 1:40:35.560 companies get hacked, credit unions get hacked. So when Equifax 1:40:35.760 --> 1:40:40.000 got hacked, hundreds of millions of Americans, so the personal 1:40:40.120 --> 1:40:42.720 data leaked under the dark web. This is something that 1:40:42.800 --> 1:40:45.719 you should be doing regularly, whether you do it yourself 1:40:45.920 --> 1:40:48.559 or whether you pay someone else to do it. Really 1:40:48.680 --> 1:40:51.560 is something that should become a monthly or at the 1:40:51.680 --> 1:40:53.960 very least a yearly part of what I like to 1:40:54.040 --> 1:40:55.120 call your digital. 1:40:54.840 --> 1:40:59.040 Hygieneugh monthly or yearly. I was lucky to do it 1:40:59.200 --> 1:40:59.840 once speak. 1:41:00.240 --> 1:41:02.679 It is a lot of work, but it does feel 1:41:02.760 --> 1:41:05.680 good when you start doing those Google searches and you 1:41:05.800 --> 1:41:08.120 are able to remove some of that personal data. Google 1:41:08.240 --> 1:41:13.080 also has a service in itself that lets you remove 1:41:13.160 --> 1:41:15.639 some of your personal data as well. I've talked about 1:41:15.680 --> 1:41:17.120 that in the past. I'll put a link to that 1:41:17.200 --> 1:41:20.679 on my website. David, thanks so much for joining me today. 1:41:20.680 --> 1:41:23.240 I'm gonna put a link to technology Talk dot net 1:41:23.400 --> 1:41:28.080 on my website at richon Tech dot tv coming up. 1:41:28.560 --> 1:41:30.320 I can't believe it's the end of the show. 1:41:30.920 --> 1:41:35.040 The feedback segment quickly becoming your favorite segment. 1:41:35.600 --> 1:41:38.360 You're listening to Rich on tech. 1:41:43.920 --> 1:41:46.679 That'll wake you up. Rich Demiro here rich On Tech, 1:41:46.760 --> 1:41:50.080 welcome back to the show. I was gonna give out 1:41:50.080 --> 1:41:54.200 the phone number, but this is the feedback time it 1:41:54.360 --> 1:41:59.400 is I'm getting. Feedback is quickly becoming a big part 1:41:59.439 --> 1:42:01.759 of the show because clearly you're listening. 1:42:01.920 --> 1:42:02.600 So I like that. 1:42:03.240 --> 1:42:05.400 Let me do one more story real quick. Two things 1:42:05.400 --> 1:42:07.040 I wanted to mention before I get to the feedback. 1:42:07.080 --> 1:42:10.840 First off, if you have a HomePod or a HomePod, 1:42:11.000 --> 1:42:15.280 Mini sound recognition is now available. So this is a 1:42:15.320 --> 1:42:18.800 feature that Apple promised a couple months back. But now 1:42:18.960 --> 1:42:23.440 the HomePod can listen for smoke or carbon monoxide alarms 1:42:23.920 --> 1:42:27.160 in your home. So if it here's those sounds, it 1:42:27.240 --> 1:42:29.880 will send a notification to your iPhone, your iPad, or 1:42:29.920 --> 1:42:33.280 your Apple Watch. And basically it's kind of just listening 1:42:33.360 --> 1:42:36.519 for these things. And then on iPhone and iPad you'll 1:42:36.520 --> 1:42:39.280 have the option to check in and hear what's happening. 1:42:39.840 --> 1:42:41.639 And this is really important. My wife and I one 1:42:41.680 --> 1:42:45.880 time we flew to New Jersey and there was a 1:42:46.600 --> 1:42:49.560 fire alarm that happened in our home and it was 1:42:49.640 --> 1:42:53.800 a mess because it called the alarm system, called the 1:42:53.960 --> 1:42:57.400 fire department. They arrived on scene, and I felt so 1:42:57.880 --> 1:43:00.040 helpless because I didn't know what was going on, and 1:43:00.120 --> 1:43:02.000 I didn't have cameras in my home at the time, 1:43:02.560 --> 1:43:04.519 so I had no way of knowing what was happening. 1:43:04.920 --> 1:43:07.080 I had my friend, how how old school is this? 1:43:07.200 --> 1:43:09.960 I had a friend drive over to my house and 1:43:10.160 --> 1:43:12.360 look and see what's happening. And he said, the fire 1:43:12.439 --> 1:43:15.160 department was just about to break the back door to 1:43:15.280 --> 1:43:17.800 get in, and he said, hold on, you know, it's 1:43:17.840 --> 1:43:20.240 like I've got Rich on the line. And anyway, it 1:43:20.280 --> 1:43:21.920 turned out to be a false alarm. But and I 1:43:22.040 --> 1:43:24.920 installved cameras to see so I can check in anyway. 1:43:24.960 --> 1:43:27.160 I tell you all that because you know, to be 1:43:27.200 --> 1:43:29.080 able to listen in to see what's going or to 1:43:29.160 --> 1:43:31.840 hear what's happening, that's good. But also if you have 1:43:31.920 --> 1:43:35.599 a homek camera in your home, the video feed will 1:43:35.640 --> 1:43:38.719 be included in the notification, so you can see what's happening. 1:43:39.479 --> 1:43:41.760 Something you don't want to think about, but you know, 1:43:42.120 --> 1:43:46.560 definitely see what's happening inside your house. So that is available. 1:43:47.120 --> 1:43:50.120 The audio analysis happens on device and if you check in, 1:43:50.240 --> 1:43:53.640 it's and encrypted. Apple says, so if you've got a 1:43:53.680 --> 1:43:57.360 homepot or a HomePod Mini set, up sound recognition inside 1:43:57.520 --> 1:43:59.240 the home app. 1:43:59.760 --> 1:44:03.280 So, so something that is just kind of an extra perk. 1:44:03.640 --> 1:44:06.960 All right, if you got an Android phone Samsung, specifically, 1:44:07.120 --> 1:44:09.000 check out this app called pixel Search. 1:44:09.120 --> 1:44:10.160 I found this this week. 1:44:11.160 --> 1:44:13.439 I can't remember how I found it, but someone mentioned 1:44:13.479 --> 1:44:15.680 it and I installed it on the Samsung and I 1:44:15.800 --> 1:44:19.800 love it. Not a huge fan of Samsung's Finder, but 1:44:20.200 --> 1:44:23.960 pixel Search will basically kind of transform the search on 1:44:24.120 --> 1:44:27.680 your Samsung phone into something that's more pixely, so you 1:44:27.760 --> 1:44:31.559 can search through your apps, your contacts, web suggestions, and files. 1:44:32.080 --> 1:44:36.320 It's really clean, it looks really great, and I love it. 1:44:36.880 --> 1:44:39.040 So the only thing I wish I could do is 1:44:39.120 --> 1:44:41.760 get it to work when you swipe up on the 1:44:41.960 --> 1:44:46.280 Samsung Home screen. That would be awesome. That would really 1:44:46.400 --> 1:44:48.920 make it more into a pixel. So again, the app 1:44:49.040 --> 1:44:52.479 is called pixel Search. It's on Google Play. I believe 1:44:52.560 --> 1:44:56.400 it's free to freemium. But check it out pixel Search 1:44:56.479 --> 1:44:59.400 if you want something that's closer to the pixel on 1:44:59.720 --> 1:45:00.519 your Samsung. 1:45:02.080 --> 1:45:02.400 All right. 1:45:02.479 --> 1:45:08.639 Dominic writes in about Netflix ending DVD mail service. Hey, 1:45:08.720 --> 1:45:11.599 I'm hearing all the news about Netflix ending DVD service 1:45:11.720 --> 1:45:15.000 in the US. In the mail, the US Postal Service 1:45:15.080 --> 1:45:17.400 will lose business from Netflix as I work in the 1:45:17.479 --> 1:45:20.880 processing facility in San Diego and I see these DVDs 1:45:20.960 --> 1:45:24.280 coming through. Talk about how much business the postal service 1:45:24.320 --> 1:45:26.680 will lose, and if Netflix will put those DVDs that 1:45:26.760 --> 1:45:28.519 come in the mail on their clouds so people can 1:45:28.600 --> 1:45:31.160 stream them. That is why people get them in the mail, 1:45:31.200 --> 1:45:35.000 because they cannot be streamed. Thanks man for your work. Yeah, Dominic, 1:45:35.640 --> 1:45:37.840 you know, I work in the news and the video 1:45:37.960 --> 1:45:42.679 we showed for so many years was always, always, always, 1:45:42.720 --> 1:45:46.400 whenever we did a DVD Netflix story was always all 1:45:46.560 --> 1:45:48.960 of the DVDs that were being sorted in the post 1:45:49.040 --> 1:45:52.479 office and there was just thousands of them inside those 1:45:53.200 --> 1:45:55.679 you know, those bucket whatever those things are, those mail 1:45:55.720 --> 1:45:58.799 sorder kind of bins. But yeah, it's gonna have an impact. 1:45:58.840 --> 1:46:01.400 It's gonna be a lot less less DVD's going through 1:46:01.439 --> 1:46:04.720 the mail. Of course, a lot of business lost, as well, 1:46:04.720 --> 1:46:07.720 a lot of money that Netflix paid to the post 1:46:07.800 --> 1:46:11.400 service Postal service for this end of an error. 1:46:11.479 --> 1:46:12.120 For that's for sure. 1:46:12.200 --> 1:46:14.320 And yes, that's what people liked is that you can 1:46:14.400 --> 1:46:19.240 get anything on DVD that wasn't available necessarily on streaming 1:46:19.760 --> 1:46:21.680 a lot of stuff's on streaming of course it may 1:46:21.760 --> 1:46:23.840 cost you. That's the other big difference is that, yeah, 1:46:23.840 --> 1:46:25.360 you might be able to get on streaming, but for 1:46:25.479 --> 1:46:29.240 some of these obscure titles you have to pay. Steven 1:46:29.320 --> 1:46:32.160 palm Spring says, love, love, love you taking over for 1:46:32.320 --> 1:46:34.559 Leo on the talks on the Tech Show. I listen 1:46:34.640 --> 1:46:37.639 every week and you're doing a great job. Thank you Steve. 1:46:38.800 --> 1:46:42.320 By the way, Leo still does his shows on his 1:46:42.439 --> 1:46:45.280 own network. So I just took over the radio portion. 1:46:46.479 --> 1:46:49.000 I emailed you several weeks ago and expressed how pleased 1:46:49.000 --> 1:46:50.960 I was with the new format of the show. You're 1:46:51.000 --> 1:46:53.599 covering tech, computer and mobile, which is relevant for all 1:46:53.680 --> 1:46:56.960 of us. You throw in stories about evs again great. 1:46:57.120 --> 1:46:59.639 You tell personal stories like saving the guy in Hawaii, 1:47:00.720 --> 1:47:03.560 which are interesting and to the point. Keep doing what 1:47:03.680 --> 1:47:06.559 you're doing and most of us will be happy. Keep 1:47:06.640 --> 1:47:07.360 up the great work. 1:47:07.600 --> 1:47:08.320 Now my question. 1:47:09.520 --> 1:47:12.160 You indicated the show notes would be posted online. Oh, 1:47:12.200 --> 1:47:15.080 I knew you're gonna okay, So the nice comes with 1:47:15.439 --> 1:47:18.840 you know a you know, not so nice. I go 1:47:18.920 --> 1:47:20.640 to Rich on tech dot TV and it appears to 1:47:20.720 --> 1:47:23.200 me you're not They're not current, nor do they contain 1:47:23.280 --> 1:47:25.439 everything you spoke of on the show. Am I looking 1:47:25.479 --> 1:47:28.800 in the wrong place? Thanks rich for doing an awesome job. 1:47:29.360 --> 1:47:32.960 I'll admit it's me doing the notes, and sometimes they're thorough, 1:47:33.120 --> 1:47:36.000 sometimes they're not. I'm doing a better job. The best 1:47:36.080 --> 1:47:39.120 place this is put out as a podcast after it's 1:47:39.560 --> 1:47:43.840 on the show, and it's it's on podpage, dot com, 1:47:44.000 --> 1:47:46.960 slash rich on tech so I usually put that link 1:47:47.080 --> 1:47:49.360 on the rich on tech dot tv. It's a lot 1:47:49.439 --> 1:47:52.720 of different links, but hopefully rich on tech dot tv 1:47:52.840 --> 1:47:54.760 should be the clearinghouse for that. There is a little 1:47:55.040 --> 1:47:57.639 icon if you go to rich on tech dot tv, 1:47:57.720 --> 1:47:59.880 there's a bunch of icons. Look for the one that 1:48:00.040 --> 1:48:03.240 looks like a podcast. That's the one to click, and 1:48:03.360 --> 1:48:05.160 that will bring you to the show, which will bring 1:48:05.240 --> 1:48:11.040 you to the show notes. Vince writes, how do you 1:48:11.120 --> 1:48:13.920 stop ways from running after the car is turned off? 1:48:14.000 --> 1:48:16.759 I've got a twenty twenty one Nissan Rogue with wireless 1:48:16.760 --> 1:48:19.960 Apple car Play. I use Ways on an iPhone running 1:48:19.960 --> 1:48:22.719 the latest iOS update. My problem is Ways keeps running 1:48:22.760 --> 1:48:24.679 on my phone even after I turn off and exit 1:48:24.760 --> 1:48:27.720 the car after arriving at my destination. Is there a 1:48:27.760 --> 1:48:29.920 way to stop it from running in the background. I'm 1:48:29.960 --> 1:48:32.200 concerned about the impact on my battery drain. I would 1:48:32.240 --> 1:48:34.679 force clothes, but often I forget and it just keeps 1:48:34.760 --> 1:48:37.200 running in the background. Yeah, this is definitely an issue 1:48:37.200 --> 1:48:39.160 with Ways, but this is how Ways works. 1:48:39.960 --> 1:48:40.280 Ways. 1:48:40.400 --> 1:48:44.120 The whole thing is crowdsourced, and so they're collecting data 1:48:44.280 --> 1:48:47.479 off of your phone to help other Ways users, and 1:48:47.600 --> 1:48:51.519 so there is a way to stop Ways. And yes, 1:48:51.680 --> 1:48:54.120 this has happened to me, Dominic or Vince so many 1:48:54.200 --> 1:48:58.040 times where I get to my destination, my phone is 1:48:58.080 --> 1:49:00.679 in my pocket and all of a sudden, Ways starts 1:49:00.760 --> 1:49:03.560 spouting out some directions or something or some sort of 1:49:03.680 --> 1:49:05.479 like turn left at the next street. I'm like, wait, 1:49:05.600 --> 1:49:09.080 what So Ways is pretty much always running on your 1:49:09.120 --> 1:49:11.120 phone in the background unless you tell it not to. 1:49:12.000 --> 1:49:14.160 And the only way I know of to tell it 1:49:14.280 --> 1:49:19.000 not to is by going into the Ways app and 1:49:19.120 --> 1:49:21.679 then you tap my Ways and then there's a little 1:49:21.760 --> 1:49:25.120 power button. You press that power button, it goes into 1:49:25.240 --> 1:49:28.720 sleep mode. It says Ways is currently inactive, you are 1:49:28.760 --> 1:49:33.240 not using battery, contributing data, or earning points, and then 1:49:33.280 --> 1:49:35.720 you have to tap wake up. But otherwise, as far 1:49:35.760 --> 1:49:37.679 as I know, it's pretty much always running. I don't 1:49:37.720 --> 1:49:39.479 know how much on the iPhone. It's allowed to do 1:49:39.560 --> 1:49:42.439 in the background all the time, so it may end 1:49:42.560 --> 1:49:45.479 up stopping by itself at some point. But that's the 1:49:45.560 --> 1:49:47.800 best way I know of manually doing it, unless you 1:49:47.960 --> 1:49:51.160 just kind of force clothes. Like you said, not a 1:49:51.200 --> 1:49:54.679 perfect system, but that's how they kind of work. Let's see. 1:49:55.000 --> 1:49:57.719 Michael in Kentucky says, Hey, Rich, I love the show. 1:49:57.800 --> 1:49:59.920 Each week I listen to the podcast. I just want 1:50:00.200 --> 1:50:03.120 a chime in about your segment on juice jacking plugging 1:50:03.200 --> 1:50:05.560 into USB in the mall or airports. There was a 1:50:05.640 --> 1:50:08.840 show spin off from CSI called Cyber. There was an 1:50:08.840 --> 1:50:12.000 episode that featured someone stealing information and cloning phones when 1:50:12.040 --> 1:50:16.040 someone plugged into a place for a quick charge. The 1:50:16.160 --> 1:50:18.639 hackers used a router and portable hard drive to upload 1:50:18.720 --> 1:50:21.240 malware and download data from the phones. At the time 1:50:21.360 --> 1:50:23.280 this show was out, phones were not as secure as 1:50:23.320 --> 1:50:25.080 they are now, but I'm sure it could happen today. 1:50:25.600 --> 1:50:27.680 Thanks and keep up the great job. I'm still tech 1:50:27.720 --> 1:50:30.519 support for my friends and family. Yes, I think phones 1:50:30.520 --> 1:50:33.120 are more secure now than they were. And finally, Sally says, 1:50:33.160 --> 1:50:34.800 thanks Rich for the heads up on the drop cam 1:50:34.920 --> 1:50:38.599 slash Google update. FYI, they only provide you with two 1:50:38.760 --> 1:50:42.200 replacement cams. I had four drop cams, but now I'm 1:50:42.240 --> 1:50:44.920 listening to your show, I have two replacement cameras. 1:50:45.040 --> 1:50:46.320 I love the show. Rich. 1:50:46.760 --> 1:50:50.240 Thank you, sal Well, that's going to do it. I'm 1:50:50.320 --> 1:50:53.160 Rich Damiro. Thanks so much for listening to the show. 1:50:55.040 --> 1:50:57.720 So many ways you can spend your time. I really 1:50:57.760 --> 1:51:00.320 do appreciate you spending it here with me every week. 1:51:00.800 --> 1:51:03.400 I love the emails. I am just flooded with them 1:51:03.479 --> 1:51:06.240 every week. You have no idea. Like I thought doing 1:51:06.280 --> 1:51:09.680 a radio show would mean less emails because people would say, oh, 1:51:10.240 --> 1:51:12.439 Rich is you know he's doing the show, so I 1:51:12.479 --> 1:51:14.160 can just call him. But no, you're emailing me, which 1:51:14.200 --> 1:51:17.960 is great. Hello at richontech dot TV is Reagan. Find 1:51:18.000 --> 1:51:20.400 me on email at rich on tech is Reagan find 1:51:20.479 --> 1:51:23.840 me everywhere else. Thank you so much for listening. Thanks 1:51:24.040 --> 1:51:27.479 Kim for the phones, Thanks Bobo for the board. I'll 1:51:27.520 --> 1:51:28.280 see you next week. 1:51:29.640 --> 1:51:30.040 Take care,