1 00:00:00,360 --> 00:00:04,800 Speaker 1: After twenty five years, Netflix says goodbye to the DVD. 2 00:00:05,920 --> 00:00:10,800 Speaker 1: Twitter goes back to the basics the new EV with 3 00:00:11,000 --> 00:00:14,920 Speaker 1: no rear window. We're not talking hitchcock here. Plus your 4 00:00:15,000 --> 00:00:18,960 Speaker 1: tech questions answered? What is going on? I'm Rich Demiro 5 00:00:19,079 --> 00:00:21,079 Speaker 1: and this is Rich on Tech, the show where I 6 00:00:21,120 --> 00:00:23,760 Speaker 1: talk about the tech stuff I think you should know about. 7 00:00:24,360 --> 00:00:30,000 Speaker 1: It's also the place where I answer your questions about technology. 8 00:00:30,200 --> 00:00:33,840 Speaker 1: I'm the tech reporter at KTLA Channel five in Los Angeles. 9 00:00:33,920 --> 00:00:37,280 Speaker 1: Welcome to the show. We've got Kim on phones, We've 10 00:00:37,280 --> 00:00:41,360 Speaker 1: got Bobo on the board. Plus you phone lines are 11 00:00:41,440 --> 00:00:44,640 Speaker 1: open at triple eight rich one oh one. That's eight 12 00:00:44,760 --> 00:00:49,480 Speaker 1: eight eight seven four to two four one zero one. 13 00:00:50,520 --> 00:00:51,200 Speaker 2: Give me a call. 14 00:00:51,600 --> 00:00:54,240 Speaker 1: You have a question about technology, trying to find an 15 00:00:54,320 --> 00:00:58,600 Speaker 1: app to do something, trying to side on an EV. Well, 16 00:00:58,640 --> 00:01:00,200 Speaker 1: I don't know if I should make that decision for you, 17 00:01:00,320 --> 00:01:03,080 Speaker 1: but I can help. Maybe you're just trying to figure 18 00:01:03,120 --> 00:01:05,800 Speaker 1: something out. Maybe you're trying to decide between two things. 19 00:01:05,959 --> 00:01:08,479 Speaker 1: Just give me a call. Triple eight rich one oh 20 00:01:08,480 --> 00:01:12,360 Speaker 1: one eight eight eight seven four to two four one 21 00:01:12,680 --> 00:01:16,840 Speaker 1: zero one is the phone number. Email is also open. 22 00:01:17,240 --> 00:01:22,640 Speaker 1: Send it to hello at richontech dot TV every week. 23 00:01:22,680 --> 00:01:27,000 Speaker 1: I mentioned the email, the feedback section continues to grow, 24 00:01:27,640 --> 00:01:29,520 Speaker 1: so we will do feedback at the end of the show. 25 00:01:31,800 --> 00:01:33,080 Speaker 2: Ah, what a great day. 26 00:01:33,240 --> 00:01:35,640 Speaker 1: Good song to open up the show, because it is 27 00:01:35,720 --> 00:01:39,800 Speaker 1: a glorious day here in Los Angeles. The weather has 28 00:01:39,840 --> 00:01:43,200 Speaker 1: finally turned, that's for sure. I got a little father 29 00:01:43,319 --> 00:01:45,480 Speaker 1: son night last night. My wife was out with my 30 00:01:45,520 --> 00:01:47,760 Speaker 1: other son, so it was just me and my older child. 31 00:01:48,400 --> 00:01:50,520 Speaker 1: So we had all these plans like what you know, 32 00:01:50,640 --> 00:01:52,840 Speaker 1: I said, Hey, what do you want to do? And 33 00:01:52,920 --> 00:01:55,080 Speaker 1: of course we went through the list of you know, 34 00:01:55,120 --> 00:01:58,720 Speaker 1: going to like an amusement park, going bowling, this and that. 35 00:01:59,440 --> 00:02:01,480 Speaker 1: None of those were but we did go to habachi, 36 00:02:01,800 --> 00:02:04,280 Speaker 1: which I think is always a good, easy, kind of 37 00:02:04,320 --> 00:02:07,240 Speaker 1: like enjoyable evening. And I've never been with just my 38 00:02:07,320 --> 00:02:10,320 Speaker 1: son by ourselves, and we had a great time. And 39 00:02:10,480 --> 00:02:13,800 Speaker 1: it got me to thinking two things. Number One, habachi 40 00:02:13,880 --> 00:02:16,000 Speaker 1: is all about the chef that you get right, like 41 00:02:16,040 --> 00:02:18,640 Speaker 1: they have to be into it. If they're not into it, 42 00:02:18,680 --> 00:02:21,040 Speaker 1: and they're just kind of doing like the beating har 43 00:02:21,200 --> 00:02:23,600 Speaker 1: and the you know, the throwing the shrimp at your 44 00:02:24,040 --> 00:02:25,760 Speaker 1: head and all that stuff just kind of like okay, 45 00:02:25,919 --> 00:02:28,639 Speaker 1: going through the motions it's not very fun. But this 46 00:02:28,680 --> 00:02:31,600 Speaker 1: person we had last night was fantastic. Must have been 47 00:02:31,639 --> 00:02:34,360 Speaker 1: brand new because he really enjoyed it, and so he 48 00:02:34,440 --> 00:02:36,760 Speaker 1: was doing like the I feel like in California they 49 00:02:36,760 --> 00:02:39,760 Speaker 1: banned that flaming volcano for a while, like they weren't 50 00:02:39,760 --> 00:02:41,840 Speaker 1: allowed to use real fire, they were just using steam. 51 00:02:41,880 --> 00:02:44,040 Speaker 2: And last night, oh it was the fire was back. 52 00:02:44,600 --> 00:02:45,400 Speaker 2: So that was great. 53 00:02:45,400 --> 00:02:46,840 Speaker 1: And then it got me to thinking, how come we 54 00:02:46,840 --> 00:02:49,520 Speaker 1: don't tip this chef, like if I've been doing habachi 55 00:02:49,560 --> 00:02:52,160 Speaker 1: wrong my whole life and not tipping the chef, because 56 00:02:52,160 --> 00:02:54,120 Speaker 1: when it came to the end, of course you tipped 57 00:02:54,160 --> 00:02:56,760 Speaker 1: the waiter, but I was like, should we be tipping 58 00:02:56,760 --> 00:02:58,800 Speaker 1: this person anyway? So let me know if I was 59 00:02:58,800 --> 00:03:02,480 Speaker 1: doing that wrong. I hope I'm not. But afterwards we 60 00:03:02,560 --> 00:03:05,120 Speaker 1: went to pinball. I figured, you know what, let me 61 00:03:05,160 --> 00:03:08,079 Speaker 1: introduce my kid to pinball. And so they've got a 62 00:03:08,120 --> 00:03:11,360 Speaker 1: couple of places in Los Angeles that are restaurants that 63 00:03:11,400 --> 00:03:14,000 Speaker 1: also have like a pinball room, and so we went 64 00:03:14,000 --> 00:03:16,600 Speaker 1: to this one restaurant that I actually heard about at 65 00:03:16,639 --> 00:03:19,720 Speaker 1: CES this year, and the person told me, oh, yeah, 66 00:03:19,800 --> 00:03:21,920 Speaker 1: you live in La go to this It's a Korean 67 00:03:21,960 --> 00:03:24,680 Speaker 1: barbecue place. That also has a pin ball room, and 68 00:03:24,720 --> 00:03:28,280 Speaker 1: I was like, what, They've got two locations in Los Angeles, 69 00:03:28,760 --> 00:03:30,760 Speaker 1: So we go to one of them. We make the 70 00:03:30,800 --> 00:03:33,960 Speaker 1: trek there and I get there and the place is packed, 71 00:03:34,720 --> 00:03:37,680 Speaker 1: but there are two pinball machines in the waiting area, 72 00:03:37,720 --> 00:03:40,560 Speaker 1: and I'm like, you gotta be kidding me. This is 73 00:03:40,680 --> 00:03:44,000 Speaker 1: the this is the pinball room that this person told 74 00:03:44,000 --> 00:03:47,280 Speaker 1: me about. And thankfully I asked because we were going 75 00:03:47,320 --> 00:03:50,040 Speaker 1: to walk right out, and I asked the host and 76 00:03:50,080 --> 00:03:51,920 Speaker 1: they said, oh no, there's a whole room of pinball 77 00:03:51,960 --> 00:03:52,600 Speaker 1: machines that way. 78 00:03:52,640 --> 00:03:53,280 Speaker 2: So we walked past. 79 00:03:53,280 --> 00:03:57,160 Speaker 1: This restaurant was just filled with people grilling meats at 80 00:03:57,200 --> 00:03:59,680 Speaker 1: their tables. I have not done that yet, but one 81 00:03:59,720 --> 00:04:03,160 Speaker 1: of these days. And we get to this room and 82 00:04:03,360 --> 00:04:05,080 Speaker 1: sure enough, I don't know, there must have been twenty 83 00:04:05,080 --> 00:04:08,160 Speaker 1: pinball machines in there. And of course I'm expecting these 84 00:04:08,200 --> 00:04:11,520 Speaker 1: pinball machines to be overpriced and expensive and this and that, 85 00:04:12,000 --> 00:04:14,440 Speaker 1: and they weren't. They were very reasonable fifty cents a game. 86 00:04:14,840 --> 00:04:17,680 Speaker 1: So we got change and we played pinball and it 87 00:04:17,800 --> 00:04:20,120 Speaker 1: was so much fun because pinball is like, it's not 88 00:04:20,279 --> 00:04:23,360 Speaker 1: really that high tech, but it kind of is. Because 89 00:04:23,400 --> 00:04:26,800 Speaker 1: this company that makes these pinball machines, Stern Pinball. They're 90 00:04:26,800 --> 00:04:29,120 Speaker 1: the ones that actually told me about this place. At 91 00:04:29,160 --> 00:04:33,280 Speaker 1: CS they actually have on pinball machines where you can 92 00:04:33,400 --> 00:04:36,000 Speaker 1: scan a QR coach. So you join this club they 93 00:04:36,040 --> 00:04:39,080 Speaker 1: call it the let's see, it's called the Insider Connected. 94 00:04:39,520 --> 00:04:42,080 Speaker 1: And so you join this club. And what's cool about 95 00:04:42,080 --> 00:04:45,400 Speaker 1: it is that they actually keep your score not only 96 00:04:45,440 --> 00:04:50,200 Speaker 1: across that machine, but across a leaderboard that is local 97 00:04:50,320 --> 00:04:52,920 Speaker 1: but also national. So in the corner of the room 98 00:04:52,960 --> 00:04:56,640 Speaker 1: there's a screen that has everyone's scores from like across 99 00:04:56,680 --> 00:04:58,760 Speaker 1: the nation or maybe worldwide, who knows. 100 00:04:59,320 --> 00:05:00,560 Speaker 2: So I thought that was kind of cool. 101 00:05:00,680 --> 00:05:03,240 Speaker 1: I did not get on the leader board, but kind 102 00:05:03,240 --> 00:05:06,560 Speaker 1: of neat that now they keep score in various ways, 103 00:05:06,600 --> 00:05:09,719 Speaker 1: your personal score and also how you compare to people 104 00:05:09,720 --> 00:05:12,480 Speaker 1: that are playing these games across the nation. If you 105 00:05:12,520 --> 00:05:14,599 Speaker 1: want to check out what it looked like in there, 106 00:05:14,640 --> 00:05:16,560 Speaker 1: I put it on my Instagram. At rich On Tech 107 00:05:16,560 --> 00:05:18,560 Speaker 1: we had a blast, and then of course my son 108 00:05:18,640 --> 00:05:20,679 Speaker 1: convinced me to go to Walmart, and I said, please 109 00:05:20,720 --> 00:05:22,880 Speaker 1: do not make me go into Walmart, because I'm just 110 00:05:22,960 --> 00:05:26,040 Speaker 1: gonna spend money that I don't need to spend. And 111 00:05:26,160 --> 00:05:29,360 Speaker 1: sure enough, we go into Walmart, and right off the bat, 112 00:05:29,760 --> 00:05:31,200 Speaker 1: it's like, I don't want to get one of those 113 00:05:31,240 --> 00:05:33,240 Speaker 1: carts because I'm just gonna put stuff in there, and 114 00:05:33,480 --> 00:05:36,200 Speaker 1: we ended up buying a whole bunch of stuff. Walmart, 115 00:05:36,240 --> 00:05:40,000 Speaker 1: by the way, the last holdout I think in America 116 00:05:40,560 --> 00:05:43,280 Speaker 1: that does not do tap to pay. I'm going to 117 00:05:43,320 --> 00:05:45,479 Speaker 1: talk about tap to pay in a little bit later 118 00:05:45,480 --> 00:05:48,480 Speaker 1: in the show about some of the quirks of tap 119 00:05:48,520 --> 00:05:52,080 Speaker 1: to pay. But Kroger, which is the big grocery company 120 00:05:52,080 --> 00:05:54,680 Speaker 1: that owns like grocery stores in every city in America, 121 00:05:54,720 --> 00:05:58,280 Speaker 1: including Ralph's here locally in Los Angeles and probably a 122 00:05:58,279 --> 00:06:02,400 Speaker 1: grocery store near you, they finally broke down and accepted 123 00:06:02,440 --> 00:06:04,880 Speaker 1: Apple pay. Now, I've not been in the Ralphs to 124 00:06:04,880 --> 00:06:08,840 Speaker 1: confirm this, but I tweeted it and many people confirm that, yes, 125 00:06:09,680 --> 00:06:13,000 Speaker 1: Ralphs finally takes tap to pay, So thank you. Ralph's 126 00:06:13,640 --> 00:06:17,480 Speaker 1: one of the last holdouts. You can go almost anywhere now, 127 00:06:17,520 --> 00:06:19,279 Speaker 1: I think, and do tap to pay, even at the 128 00:06:19,279 --> 00:06:21,440 Speaker 1: Habachi place. I was talking about this on last week's 129 00:06:21,440 --> 00:06:24,200 Speaker 1: show or the week before. How in Hawaii a lot 130 00:06:24,200 --> 00:06:28,280 Speaker 1: of the restaurants are using that handheld kind of tablet 131 00:06:28,279 --> 00:06:31,040 Speaker 1: to take your order but also let you pay from 132 00:06:31,120 --> 00:06:34,240 Speaker 1: your table. And sure enough Habachi place we went to 133 00:06:34,480 --> 00:06:36,960 Speaker 1: was doing that as well, and so I love it. 134 00:06:36,960 --> 00:06:37,880 Speaker 2: It's just so much better. 135 00:06:37,920 --> 00:06:40,960 Speaker 1: Although I still think it's funny because the waiter took 136 00:06:41,000 --> 00:06:43,880 Speaker 1: my card and tapped it for me, I was like, 137 00:06:44,760 --> 00:06:45,400 Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure. 138 00:06:45,400 --> 00:06:46,760 Speaker 2: I think I can do that myself. 139 00:06:48,480 --> 00:06:48,680 Speaker 3: Ah. 140 00:06:49,000 --> 00:06:53,080 Speaker 1: This week, Twitter finally made good. And I said, I 141 00:06:53,080 --> 00:06:55,320 Speaker 1: wasn't gonna talk about Twitter a lot on this show 142 00:06:55,400 --> 00:06:57,600 Speaker 1: because there's a lot of gossip and a lot of 143 00:06:57,680 --> 00:07:00,840 Speaker 1: just like the dust hasn't settled around Twitter, So I 144 00:07:00,880 --> 00:07:04,279 Speaker 1: wasn't going to follow all the tiny nuances of Twitter 145 00:07:04,560 --> 00:07:07,159 Speaker 1: as Elon took over and all the stuff, the ups 146 00:07:07,240 --> 00:07:09,000 Speaker 1: and the downs. But I do think this is a 147 00:07:09,000 --> 00:07:12,000 Speaker 1: big deal. So Twitter this week and Elon Musk made 148 00:07:12,000 --> 00:07:15,080 Speaker 1: good on his promise to get rid of the blue 149 00:07:15,200 --> 00:07:18,560 Speaker 1: check mark, and the blue check mark for legacy folks. 150 00:07:18,720 --> 00:07:21,400 Speaker 1: They still have it, but I'll explain the blue check 151 00:07:21,400 --> 00:07:25,080 Speaker 1: mark for legacy folks like myself, and that blue check 152 00:07:25,120 --> 00:07:29,320 Speaker 1: mark meant that you were verified. This meant that you 153 00:07:29,840 --> 00:07:32,000 Speaker 1: went through some sort of process to get that blue 154 00:07:32,080 --> 00:07:34,040 Speaker 1: check mark. People knew when you saw Rich on Tech. 155 00:07:34,120 --> 00:07:37,800 Speaker 1: On Twitter, I was who I say I am. Now 156 00:07:37,840 --> 00:07:42,400 Speaker 1: they have stripped that from pretty much everyone unless you 157 00:07:42,560 --> 00:07:45,200 Speaker 1: pay eight dollars a month for the privilege of having 158 00:07:45,200 --> 00:07:48,760 Speaker 1: a blue check mark in the Twitter Blue program. Now 159 00:07:48,760 --> 00:07:51,240 Speaker 1: they call this verified, but it is anything, but it 160 00:07:51,360 --> 00:07:54,040 Speaker 1: means absolutely nothing at this point. So when you're scrolling 161 00:07:54,080 --> 00:07:57,360 Speaker 1: Twitter and you see a blue check mark, that means nothing. 162 00:07:57,840 --> 00:08:00,240 Speaker 1: All it means is that that person is paying to 163 00:08:00,280 --> 00:08:03,080 Speaker 1: get that check mark. Yes, they have verified the fact 164 00:08:03,120 --> 00:08:05,040 Speaker 1: that they have a credit card and a phone number 165 00:08:05,360 --> 00:08:08,280 Speaker 1: and an email address, but that's it. That person is 166 00:08:08,280 --> 00:08:11,800 Speaker 1: not necessarily who they say they are. Now, why is 167 00:08:11,840 --> 00:08:15,760 Speaker 1: this a problem. It's a problem because anyone can now 168 00:08:16,120 --> 00:08:19,360 Speaker 1: make a username like rich on tech with two h's, 169 00:08:19,920 --> 00:08:22,520 Speaker 1: get the verification, get the blue check mark, and when 170 00:08:22,560 --> 00:08:26,120 Speaker 1: you're scrolling through now it looks like that's me. And 171 00:08:26,320 --> 00:08:29,280 Speaker 1: this presents a lot of problems because you can no 172 00:08:29,360 --> 00:08:33,280 Speaker 1: longer trust what you're seeing at a glance. And this 173 00:08:33,320 --> 00:08:36,240 Speaker 1: is a problem we're seeing with the tech world at 174 00:08:36,320 --> 00:08:42,079 Speaker 1: large right now, with AI and AI created images and 175 00:08:42,360 --> 00:08:43,840 Speaker 1: videos and audio. 176 00:08:44,679 --> 00:08:46,360 Speaker 2: At this point, we just. 177 00:08:46,360 --> 00:08:50,080 Speaker 1: Don't know what's real anymore, and it's going to be 178 00:08:50,160 --> 00:08:54,120 Speaker 1: a big, big problem and so Twitter with people like 179 00:08:54,160 --> 00:08:56,160 Speaker 1: myself you could see that blue check mark and you 180 00:08:56,240 --> 00:08:56,840 Speaker 1: knew it was me. 181 00:08:57,160 --> 00:08:58,280 Speaker 2: That's no longer the case. 182 00:08:58,640 --> 00:09:01,640 Speaker 1: So my thesis there is just please, when you're scrolling 183 00:09:01,679 --> 00:09:04,719 Speaker 1: through Twitter, if you're continuing to use it, which at 184 00:09:04,720 --> 00:09:09,760 Speaker 1: this point I'm on the fence, just beware or be weary, 185 00:09:09,800 --> 00:09:13,679 Speaker 1: I guess, because you just don't know. And already this 186 00:09:13,760 --> 00:09:17,400 Speaker 1: has presented problems. People are, you know, quoting things, and 187 00:09:17,760 --> 00:09:20,640 Speaker 1: journalists use Twitter a lot to find sources and to 188 00:09:20,679 --> 00:09:23,840 Speaker 1: get official statements and things like that. But you know, 189 00:09:24,160 --> 00:09:27,200 Speaker 1: I don't know what the National park Service official Twitter is, 190 00:09:27,240 --> 00:09:30,199 Speaker 1: do you no? But if I searched National Park Service 191 00:09:30,200 --> 00:09:32,040 Speaker 1: and I saw that blue check mark and go, oh okay, 192 00:09:32,320 --> 00:09:35,120 Speaker 1: that's the National Park Service, now I may not know 193 00:09:35,400 --> 00:09:37,040 Speaker 1: because there is no blue check mark. 194 00:09:37,559 --> 00:09:41,080 Speaker 2: So just be be aware. Ah. 195 00:09:41,080 --> 00:09:44,320 Speaker 1: But yeah, that was a big change. Snapchat big week 196 00:09:44,360 --> 00:09:48,600 Speaker 1: this week for Snapchat. Went to their event Snapchat. I 197 00:09:48,600 --> 00:09:50,439 Speaker 1: think this was the first time I've ever been invited 198 00:09:50,440 --> 00:09:53,679 Speaker 1: to a Snapchat event, and they held it in Los Angeles, 199 00:09:53,679 --> 00:09:58,839 Speaker 1: where Snapchat is headquartered, and it was a preview night, 200 00:09:58,880 --> 00:10:00,800 Speaker 1: so it was like a press night where I went 201 00:10:00,840 --> 00:10:02,480 Speaker 1: to and then it was the big event at the 202 00:10:03,000 --> 00:10:05,360 Speaker 1: a place called the Barker Hanger. It's this big, giant 203 00:10:05,440 --> 00:10:09,400 Speaker 1: like hangar next to an airfield. And it's interesting because 204 00:10:09,400 --> 00:10:11,440 Speaker 1: I've been to so many tech events over the years. 205 00:10:11,480 --> 00:10:13,360 Speaker 1: I've been to Apple, I've been to Google, I've been 206 00:10:13,400 --> 00:10:16,800 Speaker 1: to Samsung, so many companies that have thrown these things, 207 00:10:16,800 --> 00:10:19,480 Speaker 1: and they each do it in a different way, but 208 00:10:19,720 --> 00:10:23,160 Speaker 1: the common theme is that they are showing off what 209 00:10:23,240 --> 00:10:26,160 Speaker 1: they're doing in the best possible light. And the reason 210 00:10:26,200 --> 00:10:28,079 Speaker 1: why I like to be there is because I get 211 00:10:28,120 --> 00:10:30,520 Speaker 1: to go hands on with this stuff before anyone else 212 00:10:30,840 --> 00:10:33,560 Speaker 1: and see how it really works. So, for instance, they 213 00:10:33,600 --> 00:10:36,760 Speaker 1: showed off a vending machine that is in partnership with 214 00:10:36,800 --> 00:10:41,320 Speaker 1: Coca Cola that is augmented reality powered, and so I 215 00:10:41,360 --> 00:10:42,280 Speaker 1: got to test that out. 216 00:10:42,320 --> 00:10:45,320 Speaker 2: It's cool, but is it groundbreaking. I'm not sure. We'll see. 217 00:10:45,640 --> 00:10:47,640 Speaker 1: I also got to try out these magic mirrors they 218 00:10:47,640 --> 00:10:50,560 Speaker 1: have where you can try and close in stores with 219 00:10:51,440 --> 00:10:54,600 Speaker 1: augmented reality, and it's cool. And again, you're gonna see 220 00:10:54,600 --> 00:10:56,199 Speaker 1: a lot of news about this stuff, and we'll talk 221 00:10:56,200 --> 00:10:58,679 Speaker 1: about it more later in the show. But it's one 222 00:10:58,720 --> 00:11:00,680 Speaker 1: of these things where I got to try out because 223 00:11:00,920 --> 00:11:02,920 Speaker 1: unless you can go to a men's warehouse where they're 224 00:11:02,960 --> 00:11:06,040 Speaker 1: testing it here in Los Angeles, one location. You're probably 225 00:11:06,040 --> 00:11:07,960 Speaker 1: not going to see this thing for a bit, and 226 00:11:08,000 --> 00:11:10,120 Speaker 1: so it's kind of cool. And it all leads into 227 00:11:10,160 --> 00:11:12,760 Speaker 1: this kind of knowledge that I have about technology that 228 00:11:12,840 --> 00:11:14,800 Speaker 1: helps me figure out what's important to you. And it 229 00:11:14,840 --> 00:11:17,360 Speaker 1: goes back to this show. The show where I talk 230 00:11:17,400 --> 00:11:19,240 Speaker 1: about the tech stuff I think you should know about. 231 00:11:19,559 --> 00:11:22,920 Speaker 1: And so by getting a handle on this stuff, that's 232 00:11:22,920 --> 00:11:24,960 Speaker 1: how I know to talk about and give you that 233 00:11:25,040 --> 00:11:28,360 Speaker 1: perspective of what's important and what's changing. And there's a 234 00:11:28,440 --> 00:11:31,599 Speaker 1: lot of it. So I'll talk more about Snapchat and 235 00:11:31,640 --> 00:11:33,600 Speaker 1: a little bit. I think one of the coolest things 236 00:11:33,600 --> 00:11:35,920 Speaker 1: they did is they put this AI in everyone's pocket. 237 00:11:36,000 --> 00:11:38,480 Speaker 1: So if you've heard about chat GPT, they made a 238 00:11:38,559 --> 00:11:41,920 Speaker 1: chatbot that is now open to anyone in the Snapchat app. 239 00:11:42,320 --> 00:11:44,800 Speaker 1: So if you have Snapchat installed on your phone, open 240 00:11:44,840 --> 00:11:47,840 Speaker 1: it up and you have this thing called my AI 241 00:11:48,480 --> 00:11:50,400 Speaker 1: and it's a chatbot. It's kind of like a friend 242 00:11:50,520 --> 00:11:53,160 Speaker 1: that's always there, always on. You can chat with it. 243 00:11:53,160 --> 00:11:54,840 Speaker 1: I've been chatting with it for the past couple of 244 00:11:54,840 --> 00:11:58,120 Speaker 1: weeks and it's wild. You can ask it anything. Should 245 00:11:58,160 --> 00:11:59,920 Speaker 1: I go to the gym after work? Should I go 246 00:12:00,080 --> 00:12:02,520 Speaker 1: to a movie? What movie should I see? Where should 247 00:12:02,559 --> 00:12:07,400 Speaker 1: I eat? But they do lie, They really lie right 248 00:12:07,440 --> 00:12:09,800 Speaker 1: through their teeth, so be careful. They don't mean to 249 00:12:09,800 --> 00:12:12,720 Speaker 1: do it, but they call it hallucination. They just make 250 00:12:12,760 --> 00:12:15,000 Speaker 1: stuff up. And this morning I asked her a question 251 00:12:15,040 --> 00:12:18,000 Speaker 1: and just made up an answer. So pretty wild there, 252 00:12:18,800 --> 00:12:21,000 Speaker 1: all right, We got lots coming up on today's show. 253 00:12:21,280 --> 00:12:25,319 Speaker 1: Netflix after twenty five years is saying goodbye to the DVD. 254 00:12:26,320 --> 00:12:29,080 Speaker 1: Got great guests this week. Jasmine Enberg is gonna join me. 255 00:12:29,200 --> 00:12:32,880 Speaker 1: She's gonna break down Snapchat's announcements. We've got the father 256 00:12:33,080 --> 00:12:36,200 Speaker 1: of the smartphone, Marty Cooper is going to join me live, 257 00:12:36,640 --> 00:12:38,560 Speaker 1: and later we're going to talk to David Koff of 258 00:12:38,679 --> 00:12:42,480 Speaker 1: Tech Talk about how to remove your personal information from 259 00:12:42,480 --> 00:12:44,600 Speaker 1: the Internet. I see it already. The phone lines are 260 00:12:44,600 --> 00:12:47,199 Speaker 1: opening up. Your call's coming up next at Triple eight. 261 00:12:47,679 --> 00:12:50,880 Speaker 1: Welcome back to rich On Tech. Rich Demiro here hanging 262 00:12:50,920 --> 00:12:55,760 Speaker 1: out with you, talking technology. And if you listen to 263 00:12:55,760 --> 00:13:00,720 Speaker 1: this show a lot more, it's not just tech. Well 264 00:13:00,760 --> 00:13:02,760 Speaker 1: it is mostly tech, but you know it's also whatever 265 00:13:02,800 --> 00:13:04,680 Speaker 1: I feel like. 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Jeff, you're on with Rich. 276 00:13:40,679 --> 00:13:42,920 Speaker 4: Hey, Rich, Yeah, I wanted to ask you. I think 277 00:13:42,920 --> 00:13:45,280 Speaker 4: you've seen a lot of things on Twitter and I'm 278 00:13:45,320 --> 00:13:49,320 Speaker 4: beginning a lot of Google ads about this new biometric 279 00:13:49,440 --> 00:13:54,880 Speaker 4: handgun that supposedly reads your fingerprints or poem. Remember like 280 00:13:55,000 --> 00:13:57,400 Speaker 4: in what was this Stillon movie where the gun could 281 00:13:57,480 --> 00:14:00,679 Speaker 4: he could only shoot the gun. Yeah, it's basically that 282 00:14:00,840 --> 00:14:01,880 Speaker 4: somebody came up with that. 283 00:14:02,120 --> 00:14:03,480 Speaker 5: And I was. 284 00:14:03,760 --> 00:14:07,760 Speaker 4: Wondering, is it too soon to bring out a technology 285 00:14:07,840 --> 00:14:10,560 Speaker 4: like this or you know, like is it kind of 286 00:14:10,559 --> 00:14:13,800 Speaker 4: an AI thing or what's your opinion? 287 00:14:14,800 --> 00:14:16,800 Speaker 1: Well, I mean this has been talked about for a 288 00:14:16,840 --> 00:14:19,720 Speaker 1: long time. I mean I haven't you know, I haven't 289 00:14:19,760 --> 00:14:23,840 Speaker 1: seen the Instagram ads, but they're definitely. This technology has 290 00:14:23,880 --> 00:14:26,720 Speaker 1: been talked about for a really long time. But I 291 00:14:26,760 --> 00:14:29,960 Speaker 1: think there's some challenges. I mean, you know, obviously it's 292 00:14:29,960 --> 00:14:33,440 Speaker 1: not a perfect technology. Some people might think it's slower 293 00:14:33,480 --> 00:14:37,960 Speaker 1: than you know, standard technology for a gun. You know, 294 00:14:38,040 --> 00:14:41,160 Speaker 1: it's more expensive. Of course, do you have to charge 295 00:14:41,160 --> 00:14:44,480 Speaker 1: this thing? I mean, obviously there's probably charging involved. So 296 00:14:44,560 --> 00:14:46,320 Speaker 1: I think there's a lot of pros and cons. But 297 00:14:46,360 --> 00:14:48,960 Speaker 1: I think, you know, the pros obviously are the safety 298 00:14:49,000 --> 00:14:52,400 Speaker 1: aspects that only the owner would be able to use 299 00:14:52,440 --> 00:14:55,360 Speaker 1: this device, and I think that's the biggest appeal to 300 00:14:55,440 --> 00:14:59,200 Speaker 1: a lot of people. But you know, Jeff, by asking 301 00:14:59,240 --> 00:15:01,840 Speaker 1: this question that the are going to be people on 302 00:15:01,960 --> 00:15:06,360 Speaker 1: both sides of this in a very very profound way. 303 00:15:06,440 --> 00:15:07,560 Speaker 2: What are your thoughts on it? 304 00:15:07,680 --> 00:15:07,800 Speaker 6: Oh? 305 00:15:07,920 --> 00:15:12,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, well, I like the idea from a safety aspect. 306 00:15:12,760 --> 00:15:17,280 Speaker 4: I'm in the firms industry, and uh I look at 307 00:15:17,320 --> 00:15:21,640 Speaker 4: it as I don't know if it's something that it's 308 00:15:21,720 --> 00:15:27,280 Speaker 4: they're trying to fix a problem that isn't really a 309 00:15:27,320 --> 00:15:32,440 Speaker 4: problem yet. I say that uh in that uh they're 310 00:15:32,480 --> 00:15:38,880 Speaker 4: trying to uh market a gun to your Uh. Non 311 00:15:39,920 --> 00:15:42,120 Speaker 4: the people that say I'll never have a gun in 312 00:15:42,160 --> 00:15:45,040 Speaker 4: my house because it's too dangerous. They're trying to get 313 00:15:45,080 --> 00:15:49,440 Speaker 4: to that market because anybody who really wants to have 314 00:15:49,480 --> 00:15:54,880 Speaker 4: a gun should always get training, uh and other education 315 00:15:55,720 --> 00:15:57,720 Speaker 4: before even purchasing the gun. 316 00:15:58,040 --> 00:16:01,240 Speaker 1: Right, So I guess that I guess that that begs 317 00:16:01,240 --> 00:16:03,240 Speaker 1: the question. Then it's like, then who is this for? 318 00:16:03,440 --> 00:16:06,400 Speaker 1: Because if you, okay, let me put myself in these shoes. 319 00:16:06,440 --> 00:16:08,400 Speaker 1: So if I if I am a gun advocate and 320 00:16:08,400 --> 00:16:10,440 Speaker 1: I have a gun, and I you know, I train 321 00:16:10,520 --> 00:16:14,240 Speaker 1: and I get this thing, I I probably believe that 322 00:16:14,560 --> 00:16:16,400 Speaker 1: I'm gonna take care of this thing in a certain 323 00:16:16,440 --> 00:16:18,240 Speaker 1: way that nobody else is going to get access to 324 00:16:18,280 --> 00:16:20,360 Speaker 1: that gun, and nobody else will be able to have 325 00:16:20,400 --> 00:16:25,120 Speaker 1: that and I don't need this feature on that right exactly. 326 00:16:25,160 --> 00:16:27,240 Speaker 4: It's just like the people who are saying, well, I 327 00:16:27,240 --> 00:16:30,160 Speaker 4: don't need to go learn how to drive because the. 328 00:16:30,280 --> 00:16:33,960 Speaker 2: Tesla will drive for me, which by the way, is 329 00:16:34,000 --> 00:16:34,520 Speaker 2: not true. 330 00:16:34,560 --> 00:16:38,200 Speaker 1: We know that we know that the Tesla does not drive, 331 00:16:38,280 --> 00:16:39,160 Speaker 1: and so and so again. 332 00:16:40,320 --> 00:16:44,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, and so I see your point. Yeah, it's a mentality. 333 00:16:45,200 --> 00:16:47,640 Speaker 1: Well, I mean do you think Look, I think that 334 00:16:47,680 --> 00:16:50,080 Speaker 1: there there are so many issues when it comes to 335 00:16:50,120 --> 00:16:54,200 Speaker 1: firearms that people are either very for them or very 336 00:16:54,240 --> 00:16:58,280 Speaker 1: against them. I think that technology has ways of helping 337 00:16:59,000 --> 00:17:04,560 Speaker 1: various industries. I would say, you know, maybe this technology 338 00:17:05,200 --> 00:17:08,080 Speaker 1: or a version of it, if it was inexpensive enough, 339 00:17:08,640 --> 00:17:11,960 Speaker 1: could work for certain types of firearms. 340 00:17:12,880 --> 00:17:13,800 Speaker 2: But I don't know. 341 00:17:13,880 --> 00:17:15,520 Speaker 1: I mean, it's just one of these things where it 342 00:17:15,680 --> 00:17:17,600 Speaker 1: just seems like it's probably cost prohibitive. 343 00:17:19,520 --> 00:17:21,760 Speaker 4: One of the things. Okay, because like one of the 344 00:17:21,760 --> 00:17:25,119 Speaker 4: things I'm seeing is that people are coming in to 345 00:17:25,240 --> 00:17:29,679 Speaker 4: buy firearms now, especially handguns. And these are the people 346 00:17:29,720 --> 00:17:37,119 Speaker 4: who are the the White Mobile upward so forth that 347 00:17:37,280 --> 00:17:39,520 Speaker 4: said before that I'll never have a gun in my house. 348 00:17:40,119 --> 00:17:42,479 Speaker 4: They're not wanting to buy a gun because they're the 349 00:17:42,480 --> 00:17:45,440 Speaker 4: only ones that haven't bought a gun yet in California, 350 00:17:46,480 --> 00:17:49,400 Speaker 4: and they don't want to be you know, they they're 351 00:17:49,440 --> 00:17:52,800 Speaker 4: considering it like it's the musical chairs. They don't want 352 00:17:52,800 --> 00:17:55,240 Speaker 4: to be caught without one without a chair when the 353 00:17:55,320 --> 00:17:59,600 Speaker 4: music stops and the Zombia poclyps, the marauders show up. 354 00:18:00,960 --> 00:18:03,520 Speaker 1: The Uh all right, I got I got it, Jeff, 355 00:18:03,520 --> 00:18:05,400 Speaker 1: I got to leave it there. They're they're playing me off. 356 00:18:05,440 --> 00:18:09,160 Speaker 1: But great question. Uh, so many implications of that. Coming 357 00:18:09,240 --> 00:18:12,040 Speaker 1: up next, we are going to talk more about snapchat 358 00:18:12,080 --> 00:18:15,840 Speaker 1: and the implications of all of their announcements this week. 359 00:18:15,880 --> 00:18:22,920 Speaker 1: You're listening to Rich on Tech. Welcome back to rich 360 00:18:23,000 --> 00:18:26,960 Speaker 1: on Tech. Rich DeMuro here hanging out with you, talking technology. 361 00:18:27,880 --> 00:18:30,560 Speaker 1: Let's go to Paul in Burbank. Paul, you're on with Rich. 362 00:18:31,400 --> 00:18:33,920 Speaker 7: Hey, Rich, thank you for taking the call. 363 00:18:34,200 --> 00:18:37,080 Speaker 8: Yeah, Hey, I work at one of the studios that've 364 00:18:37,080 --> 00:18:39,640 Speaker 8: been with Mac tech for fifteen years. 365 00:18:39,680 --> 00:18:42,600 Speaker 5: You shoed to work at Apple and have you. 366 00:18:42,600 --> 00:18:47,040 Speaker 8: Seen the new system Preferences or Macawestern tour have I? 367 00:18:47,200 --> 00:18:47,440 Speaker 2: Yes? 368 00:18:48,800 --> 00:18:51,119 Speaker 8: Now, imagine having to work with that every day for 369 00:18:51,320 --> 00:18:53,399 Speaker 8: you know, tons of issues and you got to keep 370 00:18:53,400 --> 00:18:55,439 Speaker 8: trying to prowd through that. I know they're trying to 371 00:18:55,480 --> 00:18:59,560 Speaker 8: do the mobile equivocal of the OS, but man oh Manette, 372 00:19:00,040 --> 00:19:03,720 Speaker 8: Apple has really seemed to lost their way about the 373 00:19:03,760 --> 00:19:06,160 Speaker 8: intuitiveness of their OS and their products. 374 00:19:06,480 --> 00:19:07,439 Speaker 5: What do you think I. 375 00:19:07,400 --> 00:19:11,320 Speaker 1: Would agree with that? I think, uh, I think it's 376 00:19:11,320 --> 00:19:13,720 Speaker 1: all over the place at this point. And when specifically, 377 00:19:13,760 --> 00:19:15,919 Speaker 1: the system preferences are where you go for all the 378 00:19:15,960 --> 00:19:18,840 Speaker 1: settings and things on Mac. And it used to be 379 00:19:18,920 --> 00:19:21,879 Speaker 1: one format which I thought was pretty easy to understand, 380 00:19:21,960 --> 00:19:23,719 Speaker 1: and now it's just all over the place. It's in 381 00:19:23,720 --> 00:19:27,159 Speaker 1: this list, it does not make any sense. I I 382 00:19:27,600 --> 00:19:30,080 Speaker 1: you know, I just don't like it. And I'm sure 383 00:19:30,080 --> 00:19:32,040 Speaker 1: that there's a lot of people, and you know, some 384 00:19:32,119 --> 00:19:34,720 Speaker 1: of us. You know, people might say, oh, Paul and Rich, 385 00:19:34,760 --> 00:19:37,359 Speaker 1: you just don't like change, But the reality. 386 00:19:37,000 --> 00:19:37,440 Speaker 5: Is I don't. 387 00:19:38,960 --> 00:19:41,480 Speaker 1: I don't mind change. I just don't like when it's 388 00:19:41,520 --> 00:19:42,960 Speaker 1: when there's no reason for it. 389 00:19:43,080 --> 00:19:46,760 Speaker 2: Why, you know, yeah, right, how. 390 00:19:46,640 --> 00:19:50,160 Speaker 8: Does that improve functionality or efficacy? It doesn't, it does. 391 00:19:50,520 --> 00:19:54,480 Speaker 8: Progressiveness means progress, and even if you're a conservative republic 392 00:19:54,600 --> 00:19:57,840 Speaker 8: or whatever, you still want things to be better, better change, 393 00:19:57,920 --> 00:19:58,879 Speaker 8: not just change. 394 00:19:59,000 --> 00:20:00,960 Speaker 1: Yeah right, yeah, And I think we see a lot 395 00:20:01,000 --> 00:20:02,879 Speaker 1: of that stuff now. You know, I've I have my 396 00:20:02,960 --> 00:20:05,800 Speaker 1: greater thoughts on Apple in general, with how they control 397 00:20:05,880 --> 00:20:08,600 Speaker 1: the situation in many ways, but I you know, this 398 00:20:08,680 --> 00:20:09,480 Speaker 1: show is not long. 399 00:20:09,440 --> 00:20:10,320 Speaker 2: Enough for those thoughts. 400 00:20:10,359 --> 00:20:13,080 Speaker 1: But so, uh yeah, you're just you're just struggling with 401 00:20:13,119 --> 00:20:15,760 Speaker 1: this change as much as I am. And it's it 402 00:20:15,800 --> 00:20:17,680 Speaker 1: took me a while to go to this uh this 403 00:20:17,760 --> 00:20:20,080 Speaker 1: new os because you know, I used to do it 404 00:20:20,119 --> 00:20:21,680 Speaker 1: the day of and now I'm like, eh, I don't 405 00:20:21,680 --> 00:20:24,439 Speaker 1: need it the day of, and it's it's fine, but 406 00:20:24,480 --> 00:20:27,320 Speaker 1: it's just you know it again, it's a little confusing, 407 00:20:27,440 --> 00:20:28,720 Speaker 1: So I hear you. 408 00:20:29,640 --> 00:20:32,320 Speaker 8: I would say the same thing as attacheple. When I 409 00:20:32,320 --> 00:20:34,800 Speaker 8: worked at Apple, I I would not go to the 410 00:20:34,880 --> 00:20:38,600 Speaker 8: latest os because you know, there's a revisions that are 411 00:20:38,600 --> 00:20:41,120 Speaker 8: going to come out, but everybody uses it. Oh yeah, 412 00:20:41,160 --> 00:20:43,760 Speaker 8: so chill out, you know, let it work its way 413 00:20:43,800 --> 00:20:45,440 Speaker 8: through the you know, the ranks for a month or so. 414 00:20:46,160 --> 00:20:48,800 Speaker 8: But I really am thinking about putting a petition together 415 00:20:48,880 --> 00:20:51,360 Speaker 8: to send to Apple and seeing if we can get 416 00:20:51,359 --> 00:20:53,960 Speaker 8: some other people on board with the concept of you 417 00:20:53,960 --> 00:20:56,879 Speaker 8: remember five o'clup pro right, You remember how destroyed that? 418 00:20:57,080 --> 00:20:59,040 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I mean I've gotten used to that at 419 00:20:59,040 --> 00:21:00,919 Speaker 1: this point, but yes, there was a lot. But you 420 00:21:00,920 --> 00:21:03,639 Speaker 1: know what, here's the deal Apple, And I will say this. 421 00:21:03,800 --> 00:21:06,800 Speaker 1: They did with the keyboard on the MacBook. I did 422 00:21:06,840 --> 00:21:09,959 Speaker 1: hate that and they did end up finally changing it. 423 00:21:10,000 --> 00:21:12,359 Speaker 1: I don't know if it's still the best, but it 424 00:21:12,440 --> 00:21:14,280 Speaker 1: was like one of those things where they're like, no, no, 425 00:21:14,320 --> 00:21:16,600 Speaker 1: it's fine, it's fine, it's fine until they changed it. 426 00:21:16,720 --> 00:21:19,560 Speaker 1: So that's kind of how Apple operates. It's like every 427 00:21:19,400 --> 00:21:22,600 Speaker 1: they kind of question you, you question yourself, and then 428 00:21:22,680 --> 00:21:24,360 Speaker 1: they change it and you're like, oh, I was right 429 00:21:24,400 --> 00:21:25,040 Speaker 1: the whole time. 430 00:21:25,880 --> 00:21:27,879 Speaker 8: Well, it's like the Titanic, you know, they they have 431 00:21:28,200 --> 00:21:31,600 Speaker 8: I'm sure there's so there's so much bureaucrat and infrastructure 432 00:21:31,600 --> 00:21:33,640 Speaker 8: in place now that if you have a change order 433 00:21:33,680 --> 00:21:35,280 Speaker 8: in is an act of God. 434 00:21:35,440 --> 00:21:35,639 Speaker 9: You know. 435 00:21:35,880 --> 00:21:39,600 Speaker 8: To keyboards on the MacBook pros, you know, they wore 436 00:21:39,640 --> 00:21:42,680 Speaker 8: out from your foil, from your finger, the letters would 437 00:21:42,680 --> 00:21:45,640 Speaker 8: come on. Yeah, and the keys was great. The new 438 00:21:45,680 --> 00:21:47,880 Speaker 8: Mac and one they have a nicer keyboard for sure. 439 00:21:48,080 --> 00:21:48,480 Speaker 2: For sure. 440 00:21:49,160 --> 00:21:52,199 Speaker 8: The throw isn't is good and the strokes, but you 441 00:21:52,240 --> 00:21:54,720 Speaker 8: know it is nicer than the old, no doubt. 442 00:21:54,840 --> 00:21:55,080 Speaker 5: Yeah. 443 00:21:55,600 --> 00:21:58,280 Speaker 1: All right, Paul, thanks for the call, appreciate it. Uh, 444 00:21:58,560 --> 00:22:01,440 Speaker 1: we can talk Apple stuff all day. It's just yeah, 445 00:22:01,480 --> 00:22:04,560 Speaker 1: the keyboard, my my, my, I always give my old 446 00:22:04,560 --> 00:22:07,879 Speaker 1: computers to my family members. And my dad is still 447 00:22:08,320 --> 00:22:11,800 Speaker 1: mad that the command key is as like there's no 448 00:22:12,200 --> 00:22:13,479 Speaker 1: there's no command on it anymore. 449 00:22:13,480 --> 00:22:15,800 Speaker 2: It's like, why is this like empty? Anyway? 450 00:22:15,840 --> 00:22:18,480 Speaker 1: All right, let's go to uh, let's go to Snapchat again. 451 00:22:18,840 --> 00:22:22,080 Speaker 1: This is an interview I did with Jasmine. She is 452 00:22:22,160 --> 00:22:27,760 Speaker 1: with Insider Intelligence and this is all about the changes 453 00:22:27,960 --> 00:22:33,800 Speaker 1: at Snapchat. Welcome back to rich on Tech on location 454 00:22:34,080 --> 00:22:37,920 Speaker 1: in Santa Monica at the Snap Partners Summit. Joining me 455 00:22:38,000 --> 00:22:41,920 Speaker 1: now is Jasmine en Berg, principal analyst with Insider Intelligence. 456 00:22:42,000 --> 00:22:43,280 Speaker 2: Jasmin, thanks for joining. 457 00:22:43,040 --> 00:22:44,240 Speaker 10: Me, Thanks for having me. 458 00:22:44,760 --> 00:22:47,800 Speaker 1: Okay, so we just had a big keynote from Snapchat 459 00:22:48,240 --> 00:22:52,639 Speaker 1: talking about all their new features, including AI AR and 460 00:22:52,720 --> 00:22:54,200 Speaker 1: all of the creators they have here. 461 00:22:54,480 --> 00:22:56,320 Speaker 2: What was your big takeaway from this event? 462 00:22:57,160 --> 00:23:00,880 Speaker 11: So it's really exciting to see so many people excited 463 00:23:00,880 --> 00:23:02,840 Speaker 11: about social media again. I think a lot of the 464 00:23:02,880 --> 00:23:05,080 Speaker 11: time in the news, we hear about all the negative 465 00:23:05,119 --> 00:23:06,400 Speaker 11: aspects of social media, and. 466 00:23:06,359 --> 00:23:09,080 Speaker 10: Here we're really celebrating all. 467 00:23:08,920 --> 00:23:11,240 Speaker 11: Of the good things that social media can do, talking 468 00:23:11,320 --> 00:23:15,639 Speaker 11: about creators, augmented reality, as you mentioned, generative AI in 469 00:23:15,680 --> 00:23:18,760 Speaker 11: the future. But I do think, you know, there is 470 00:23:18,800 --> 00:23:23,400 Speaker 11: still a big question considering we barely heard anything about advertisers, 471 00:23:23,440 --> 00:23:27,000 Speaker 11: and advertising, of course is Snapchat's primary business. It's how 472 00:23:27,040 --> 00:23:30,240 Speaker 11: they make almost all of their money, and they have 473 00:23:30,280 --> 00:23:31,600 Speaker 11: Earnix coming up next week. 474 00:23:32,080 --> 00:23:34,760 Speaker 1: Well, they certainly threw some big numbers at US seven 475 00:23:34,840 --> 00:23:40,280 Speaker 1: hundred and fifty million monthly active users, texting, snapping, video 476 00:23:40,359 --> 00:23:43,919 Speaker 1: and voice calls one hundred million minutes per day of 477 00:23:44,040 --> 00:23:47,440 Speaker 1: calling on average on Snapchat, so people are certainly using 478 00:23:47,480 --> 00:23:47,920 Speaker 1: this app. 479 00:23:48,480 --> 00:23:51,760 Speaker 11: Yeah, Snapchat users love Snapchat. I think they proved that 480 00:23:51,880 --> 00:23:55,760 Speaker 11: time and time again, and especially most of the Snapchat 481 00:23:55,840 --> 00:23:58,280 Speaker 11: users are gen Z of course, you know, it's it's 482 00:23:58,280 --> 00:24:00,840 Speaker 11: been really appealing to a young audience who have really 483 00:24:00,880 --> 00:24:03,480 Speaker 11: grown up with the app. We've seen even though other 484 00:24:03,640 --> 00:24:06,960 Speaker 11: contenders have come in to compete for a gen Z's attention, 485 00:24:07,080 --> 00:24:09,400 Speaker 11: TikTok of course being one of the big ones, gen 486 00:24:09,480 --> 00:24:12,320 Speaker 11: Z are still using Snapchat. Of course, they use it 487 00:24:12,400 --> 00:24:14,399 Speaker 11: for a little bit of a different purpose and they 488 00:24:14,400 --> 00:24:17,240 Speaker 11: would use TikTok or other social media services. And we 489 00:24:17,320 --> 00:24:20,200 Speaker 11: heard the executives talk about that today too. Snapchat is 490 00:24:20,240 --> 00:24:23,800 Speaker 11: more for messaging, it's not so much for public facing content, 491 00:24:23,840 --> 00:24:26,320 Speaker 11: although they did make some big announcements about how they're 492 00:24:26,560 --> 00:24:30,040 Speaker 11: improving those public facing surfaces, especially as they're trying to 493 00:24:30,520 --> 00:24:32,080 Speaker 11: be more attractive to creators. 494 00:24:32,720 --> 00:24:34,679 Speaker 1: So they did talk about that the idea of a 495 00:24:34,760 --> 00:24:39,800 Speaker 1: public story, So being not a huge user of Snapchat, 496 00:24:40,320 --> 00:24:43,080 Speaker 1: that is something that's new where you can basically now 497 00:24:43,240 --> 00:24:44,680 Speaker 1: present your stories to. 498 00:24:44,520 --> 00:24:46,600 Speaker 2: The public, which is a pretty sizable shift. 499 00:24:47,160 --> 00:24:47,400 Speaker 10: Yeah. 500 00:24:47,440 --> 00:24:50,879 Speaker 11: Absolutely, And you know, one of the big challenges in 501 00:24:51,040 --> 00:24:54,600 Speaker 11: attracting creators in particular for Snapchat has been the fact 502 00:24:54,600 --> 00:24:56,480 Speaker 11: that they don't have many places where they can post 503 00:24:56,560 --> 00:24:59,520 Speaker 11: public content, stories being one of them. Now you have 504 00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:03,200 Speaker 11: any user ages eighteen and over being able to post 505 00:25:03,240 --> 00:25:06,240 Speaker 11: a public story if they so choose, that will help. 506 00:25:06,400 --> 00:25:09,080 Speaker 11: I do think that there are some potential challenges to 507 00:25:09,160 --> 00:25:12,199 Speaker 11: that though, in terms of privacy on the app, and 508 00:25:12,240 --> 00:25:15,119 Speaker 11: I think there'll be some questions that will be raised 509 00:25:15,160 --> 00:25:18,080 Speaker 11: about how they're going to mitigate some of those concerns 510 00:25:18,119 --> 00:25:19,119 Speaker 11: potentially in the future. 511 00:25:19,480 --> 00:25:22,000 Speaker 1: A couple of features I thought were quite neat and useful. 512 00:25:22,359 --> 00:25:25,439 Speaker 1: This idea that you can see the popular destinations on 513 00:25:25,480 --> 00:25:27,280 Speaker 1: a map. Because they have a lot of data about 514 00:25:27,280 --> 00:25:30,440 Speaker 1: where people go, you can see places and save them 515 00:25:30,440 --> 00:25:32,760 Speaker 1: for later, which I really liked. And then they also 516 00:25:32,800 --> 00:25:35,520 Speaker 1: have this idea of the always on location without the 517 00:25:35,600 --> 00:25:38,240 Speaker 1: app open. So you've been able to sort of see 518 00:25:38,280 --> 00:25:40,920 Speaker 1: your friends on a map, but now you can set 519 00:25:40,920 --> 00:25:44,320 Speaker 1: a duration and say I want to share my location 520 00:25:44,440 --> 00:25:47,840 Speaker 1: for four hours or eight hours. There's some privacy implications 521 00:25:47,840 --> 00:25:48,520 Speaker 1: with that as well. 522 00:25:49,160 --> 00:25:52,680 Speaker 11: Yes, I imagine there will be some privacy concerns raised 523 00:25:52,720 --> 00:25:55,600 Speaker 11: about that as well. They were very careful distress of course, 524 00:25:55,600 --> 00:25:57,879 Speaker 11: that this is a feature that you would have to 525 00:25:57,920 --> 00:26:01,119 Speaker 11: turn on that by default, your low isn't shared. 526 00:26:01,520 --> 00:26:03,080 Speaker 10: But you know, given. 527 00:26:03,160 --> 00:26:06,639 Speaker 11: The problems that we've seen with social media and with privacy, 528 00:26:06,760 --> 00:26:10,240 Speaker 11: especially among young people, as well as you know, other 529 00:26:10,320 --> 00:26:13,160 Speaker 11: negative impacts of social media among young people, I imagine 530 00:26:13,160 --> 00:26:15,359 Speaker 11: this is something that they're going to have to really 531 00:26:15,400 --> 00:26:18,719 Speaker 11: take into consideration as this feature rolls out. 532 00:26:19,600 --> 00:26:22,439 Speaker 1: One of the things they kept reiterating on stage, Several 533 00:26:22,440 --> 00:26:25,119 Speaker 1: of the executives mentioned it is how the app opens 534 00:26:25,200 --> 00:26:29,760 Speaker 1: up into the camera versus TikTok versus Instagram, where you're 535 00:26:29,760 --> 00:26:31,960 Speaker 1: looking at other people's feeds. 536 00:26:32,400 --> 00:26:33,280 Speaker 2: So what do you make of that? 537 00:26:33,760 --> 00:26:36,080 Speaker 11: So back in the day, Snapchat used to pitch itself 538 00:26:36,119 --> 00:26:38,240 Speaker 11: as a camera app, and it's you know, it is 539 00:26:38,359 --> 00:26:40,280 Speaker 11: very true. It does open up into the camera, and 540 00:26:40,320 --> 00:26:41,800 Speaker 11: I do think that's one of the things that sets 541 00:26:41,840 --> 00:26:45,240 Speaker 11: it apart from these other apps. And it's also you know, 542 00:26:45,560 --> 00:26:48,160 Speaker 11: one of the ways that they're trying to pitch themselves. 543 00:26:47,720 --> 00:26:50,240 Speaker 10: Now as a creator platform. 544 00:26:50,560 --> 00:26:54,280 Speaker 11: Now, Snapchat isn't a place for creators and influencers the 545 00:26:54,320 --> 00:26:56,359 Speaker 11: way that TikTok is, the way that Instagram is, and 546 00:26:56,359 --> 00:26:56,760 Speaker 11: the way. 547 00:26:56,600 --> 00:26:57,280 Speaker 10: That YouTube is. 548 00:26:57,920 --> 00:27:00,560 Speaker 11: It has a long road ahead to be to catch 549 00:27:00,600 --> 00:27:02,880 Speaker 11: up to it. But the more that it can position 550 00:27:02,960 --> 00:27:06,560 Speaker 11: itself as a place for content creation, for being able 551 00:27:06,600 --> 00:27:09,280 Speaker 11: to make fun and engage in content, as well as 552 00:27:09,520 --> 00:27:12,400 Speaker 11: having an audience to consume that content and a way 553 00:27:12,400 --> 00:27:15,120 Speaker 11: to make money, which is another big part of the presentation, 554 00:27:15,640 --> 00:27:18,840 Speaker 11: the better chance it has of becoming a bigger player 555 00:27:18,880 --> 00:27:20,040 Speaker 11: within the creator market. 556 00:27:20,680 --> 00:27:23,280 Speaker 1: My guest right now is Jasmine Enberg. She is the 557 00:27:23,359 --> 00:27:27,600 Speaker 1: principal analyst with Insider Intelligence. Let's talk about how they're 558 00:27:27,640 --> 00:27:32,840 Speaker 1: building Snapchat experiences outside of the app. So in retail locations, 559 00:27:32,880 --> 00:27:34,920 Speaker 1: we see a vending. 560 00:27:34,640 --> 00:27:35,960 Speaker 2: Machine that they're building. 561 00:27:35,720 --> 00:27:39,119 Speaker 1: A prototype vending machine with Coca Cola that uses augmented reality. 562 00:27:39,160 --> 00:27:41,399 Speaker 1: You can kind of select what you want on screen, 563 00:27:41,680 --> 00:27:43,760 Speaker 1: and then they have this mirror that lets you try 564 00:27:43,800 --> 00:27:47,040 Speaker 1: on clothing and accessories in a store and also shoes. 565 00:27:47,720 --> 00:27:51,240 Speaker 2: What do you make of those new experiences, So they're. 566 00:27:51,160 --> 00:27:53,440 Speaker 11: A little bit different for me thinking about the Coca 567 00:27:53,520 --> 00:27:56,520 Speaker 11: Cola vending machine, it's still kind of more a gimmick 568 00:27:56,600 --> 00:27:58,359 Speaker 11: in a sense. I think it's a fun way to 569 00:27:58,440 --> 00:28:02,359 Speaker 11: attract people to come to the Coca Cola machine, but 570 00:28:03,200 --> 00:28:07,359 Speaker 11: I can't imagine that that is a reason to necessarily 571 00:28:07,359 --> 00:28:09,400 Speaker 11: come back. I mean, you try it once and then 572 00:28:09,600 --> 00:28:14,280 Speaker 11: that's probably it with the the AR mirror. Shopping with 573 00:28:14,600 --> 00:28:17,400 Speaker 11: AR is not really a mainstream activity yet, but it 574 00:28:17,480 --> 00:28:21,919 Speaker 11: is growing, and I think that retailers might be you know, 575 00:28:22,119 --> 00:28:26,320 Speaker 11: more receptive to that, especially in stores, if snap can 576 00:28:26,359 --> 00:28:30,080 Speaker 11: actually prove real value in increasing in store sales as 577 00:28:30,080 --> 00:28:33,040 Speaker 11: well as reducing return rates. My one question about that 578 00:28:33,200 --> 00:28:36,440 Speaker 11: is is there a reason for somebody to go into 579 00:28:36,480 --> 00:28:39,560 Speaker 11: a store and try something on via AR for an 580 00:28:39,600 --> 00:28:42,640 Speaker 11: in stock item. Probably not unless they want to play 581 00:28:42,640 --> 00:28:45,800 Speaker 11: around with the AR mirror, but for out of stock items. 582 00:28:45,840 --> 00:28:49,680 Speaker 11: So imagine you go into whatever store, they don't have 583 00:28:49,800 --> 00:28:51,720 Speaker 11: your size, but you want to know if it fits 584 00:28:51,760 --> 00:28:54,000 Speaker 11: before you order it online in store, I can imagine 585 00:28:54,040 --> 00:28:56,080 Speaker 11: that would be a really good use case for an 586 00:28:56,320 --> 00:28:56,800 Speaker 11: AR mirror. 587 00:28:57,440 --> 00:29:00,280 Speaker 1: Where do you see Snapchat fitting into the large your 588 00:29:00,320 --> 00:29:03,160 Speaker 1: social media landscape. 589 00:29:02,640 --> 00:29:03,960 Speaker 10: Well, it depends how you look at it. 590 00:29:04,080 --> 00:29:07,120 Speaker 11: Right from you know, the user perspective, it is very 591 00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:11,320 Speaker 11: much a gen Z focused app. It's actually probably you know, 592 00:29:11,680 --> 00:29:15,240 Speaker 11: the first real gen Z app that has risen onto 593 00:29:15,280 --> 00:29:16,400 Speaker 11: the social media scene. 594 00:29:16,400 --> 00:29:17,520 Speaker 10: Now, of course we're seeing. 595 00:29:17,320 --> 00:29:20,800 Speaker 11: A lot more apps that are directed specifically towards that 596 00:29:20,880 --> 00:29:25,640 Speaker 11: younger generation, but Snapchat really kind of pioneered that and 597 00:29:25,720 --> 00:29:28,560 Speaker 11: it made that a core part of its value proposition. 598 00:29:29,240 --> 00:29:33,400 Speaker 1: Finally, AI obviously the hottest topic in the tech world. 599 00:29:33,840 --> 00:29:36,320 Speaker 2: Do you think that they mentioned enough about AI? 600 00:29:36,400 --> 00:29:40,240 Speaker 1: They have this MYAI avatar or chatbot. 601 00:29:39,800 --> 00:29:40,640 Speaker 2: That you can talk to. 602 00:29:41,080 --> 00:29:43,440 Speaker 1: They did open that up to everyone, not just paying 603 00:29:43,880 --> 00:29:48,080 Speaker 1: Snapchat subscribers. And also if you are a subscriber, you 604 00:29:48,120 --> 00:29:50,320 Speaker 1: can send a snap which is like a picture, to 605 00:29:50,480 --> 00:29:52,320 Speaker 1: the bot and it will send you back a picture, 606 00:29:52,520 --> 00:29:53,880 Speaker 1: which I thought was kind of interesting. 607 00:29:54,240 --> 00:29:55,600 Speaker 2: Do you think they're doing enough with AI? 608 00:29:56,960 --> 00:29:57,840 Speaker 10: It's a great question. 609 00:29:57,920 --> 00:30:00,880 Speaker 11: You know, there is a lot of hype around right now, 610 00:30:00,920 --> 00:30:05,040 Speaker 11: and it's where the competition within social media is shifting to. 611 00:30:05,480 --> 00:30:08,480 Speaker 10: But it's really early days and AI can. 612 00:30:08,360 --> 00:30:11,760 Speaker 11: Still be pretty problematic. I do think it's exciting to 613 00:30:11,840 --> 00:30:16,320 Speaker 11: hear what snap is planning with generative AI. I think, 614 00:30:16,400 --> 00:30:18,920 Speaker 11: you know, its user base is one of the most 615 00:30:18,960 --> 00:30:24,080 Speaker 11: receptive to these kinds of technologies, and we've clearly seen 616 00:30:24,240 --> 00:30:29,080 Speaker 11: that Snapchat Plus subscribers have really you know, or Snapchat 617 00:30:29,160 --> 00:30:30,200 Speaker 11: users have really. 618 00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:32,520 Speaker 10: Already taken to the MII chat bot. 619 00:30:32,600 --> 00:30:35,160 Speaker 11: I did a couple of calculations in my head, and 620 00:30:35,240 --> 00:30:38,240 Speaker 11: it sounds like my AI was one of the big 621 00:30:38,280 --> 00:30:42,560 Speaker 11: reason for Snapchat Plus plus is subscriber growth over the 622 00:30:42,600 --> 00:30:44,160 Speaker 11: past two months or so. 623 00:30:44,320 --> 00:30:46,960 Speaker 1: And they said they have about three million plus subscribers 624 00:30:46,960 --> 00:30:48,360 Speaker 1: that pay what four dollars a month? 625 00:30:48,440 --> 00:30:51,240 Speaker 11: It's about four dollars a month, I believe, And yeah, 626 00:30:51,240 --> 00:30:53,960 Speaker 11: and that's up by one million since January thirty first, 627 00:30:53,960 --> 00:30:58,000 Speaker 11: and my Ai launched too Snapchat Plus subscribers on February 628 00:30:58,000 --> 00:31:00,880 Speaker 11: twenty seven, so that's a pretty big number that have 629 00:31:00,960 --> 00:31:03,480 Speaker 11: signed up in just two months. And I suspect that 630 00:31:03,560 --> 00:31:05,280 Speaker 11: my Ai had quite a bit to do with it. 631 00:31:05,640 --> 00:31:07,840 Speaker 1: And one thing I took from the keynote though, they 632 00:31:07,880 --> 00:31:10,120 Speaker 1: did mention that they look at all of the chats 633 00:31:10,600 --> 00:31:13,440 Speaker 1: with the myai bot, so it's not really private. 634 00:31:13,960 --> 00:31:15,480 Speaker 11: The other thing that I took away from that too 635 00:31:15,560 --> 00:31:18,000 Speaker 11: is when Evan Spiegel said that don't ask for my 636 00:31:18,440 --> 00:31:21,000 Speaker 11: don't ask for advice from my AI. So clearly they 637 00:31:21,040 --> 00:31:24,160 Speaker 11: know that AI can be problematic. I'm sure there are 638 00:31:24,240 --> 00:31:27,080 Speaker 11: working hard to fix it and mitigate a lot of 639 00:31:27,080 --> 00:31:30,560 Speaker 11: the issues, but clearly there there is still potential for 640 00:31:30,800 --> 00:31:32,080 Speaker 11: problems with my AI. 641 00:31:32,600 --> 00:31:34,920 Speaker 1: So we have a company known for fun lenses trying 642 00:31:34,920 --> 00:31:36,440 Speaker 1: to move past just that. 643 00:31:37,120 --> 00:31:40,880 Speaker 11: Yes, absolutely, but not stray too far away from you know, 644 00:31:40,920 --> 00:31:43,320 Speaker 11: what it has, what it originally was. And I think 645 00:31:43,360 --> 00:31:46,840 Speaker 11: that's the challenge for Snapchat going forward is to remain 646 00:31:46,920 --> 00:31:52,760 Speaker 11: true to its roots while still expanding, iterating, and creating 647 00:31:52,800 --> 00:31:54,080 Speaker 11: something new for the future. 648 00:31:54,600 --> 00:31:58,000 Speaker 1: All Right, Jasmine Enberg, principal analysts with Insider Intelligence, thanks 649 00:31:58,000 --> 00:31:59,080 Speaker 1: so much for joining me today. 650 00:31:59,360 --> 00:32:00,000 Speaker 10: Thank you so much. 651 00:32:00,000 --> 00:32:00,600 Speaker 11: Thanks for having me. 652 00:32:01,080 --> 00:32:03,280 Speaker 2: All Right, we'll have more of your calls coming up next. 653 00:32:03,280 --> 00:32:03,840 Speaker 2: Give me a call. 654 00:32:03,920 --> 00:32:07,240 Speaker 1: Triple eight rich one O one. You are listening to 655 00:32:07,760 --> 00:32:14,400 Speaker 1: Rich on tech. Welcome back to Rich on Tech. Rich 656 00:32:14,440 --> 00:32:19,200 Speaker 1: DeMuro here hanging out with you, talking technology. Triple A 657 00:32:19,560 --> 00:32:23,280 Speaker 1: rich one O one. Phone lines are open eight eight 658 00:32:23,400 --> 00:32:29,480 Speaker 1: eight seven four to two four one zero one. Scott 659 00:32:29,560 --> 00:32:31,800 Speaker 1: is in Siam Valley, Scott, you're on with Rich. 660 00:32:32,960 --> 00:32:33,600 Speaker 3: Thanks Rich. 661 00:32:33,960 --> 00:32:36,560 Speaker 12: I'm calling because I have a family member that's going 662 00:32:36,600 --> 00:32:38,840 Speaker 12: to be at sea on the East Coast working on 663 00:32:38,880 --> 00:32:42,200 Speaker 12: a cruise ship for about seven months, and I'm looking 664 00:32:42,320 --> 00:32:47,840 Speaker 12: for cell phone, talk, text internet service providers that you 665 00:32:47,880 --> 00:32:53,080 Speaker 12: could recommend we look into while she's at c and import. 666 00:32:52,200 --> 00:32:57,120 Speaker 1: Oh, while she's at c That's an interesting one because 667 00:32:57,120 --> 00:33:00,440 Speaker 1: I don't think that there is one provider that work 668 00:33:01,080 --> 00:33:05,640 Speaker 1: across you know, wherever they go. Now on the ship, 669 00:33:05,680 --> 00:33:08,000 Speaker 1: do they they provide Wi Fi to the employees. 670 00:33:11,200 --> 00:33:13,320 Speaker 12: Yes, but at this point she doesn't know what they're 671 00:33:13,320 --> 00:33:16,040 Speaker 12: going to charge her. They told her it's it's available, 672 00:33:16,080 --> 00:33:19,480 Speaker 12: but it's not free. So if she's going to be 673 00:33:19,480 --> 00:33:21,800 Speaker 12: at c for six or seven months and it's three 674 00:33:21,840 --> 00:33:24,520 Speaker 12: dollars a day, it's probably going to run up quite 675 00:33:24,520 --> 00:33:24,880 Speaker 12: a tab. 676 00:33:25,120 --> 00:33:29,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's not something that she should probably do, okay, 677 00:33:29,280 --> 00:33:33,800 Speaker 1: So while she's at sea, I would say, unless there's 678 00:33:33,800 --> 00:33:37,040 Speaker 1: a provision on the ship where they give them, you know, 679 00:33:37,440 --> 00:33:40,080 Speaker 1: an hour a day or you know, three dollars a 680 00:33:40,160 --> 00:33:43,640 Speaker 1: day for the Wi Fi, I would say, on the ship, 681 00:33:43,760 --> 00:33:47,120 Speaker 1: maybe activate Wi Fi calling and see if that will work. 682 00:33:47,800 --> 00:33:50,800 Speaker 2: Has she talked about that on her phone? 683 00:33:52,000 --> 00:33:52,240 Speaker 8: Yes? 684 00:33:52,360 --> 00:33:55,760 Speaker 12: I actually did have a conversation with her, and they 685 00:33:56,480 --> 00:33:59,120 Speaker 12: did tell her that it's unrestricted use, but there is 686 00:33:59,120 --> 00:34:01,200 Speaker 12: a fee for it, but they didn't know what it was. 687 00:34:01,560 --> 00:34:02,920 Speaker 12: They couldn't tell her what it would be. 688 00:34:03,120 --> 00:34:07,600 Speaker 1: Okay, So if that's the case, does she so? I 689 00:34:07,600 --> 00:34:09,960 Speaker 1: would say, while she's on the ship, it's probably going 690 00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:12,960 Speaker 1: to be a matter of she's not really connecting to 691 00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:14,759 Speaker 1: this on a daily basis. She sort of has to 692 00:34:14,800 --> 00:34:18,280 Speaker 1: embrace the fact that she's out there, it costs money, 693 00:34:18,480 --> 00:34:20,839 Speaker 1: and it's just not something that she can do while 694 00:34:20,880 --> 00:34:24,120 Speaker 1: she's there the whole time. Now I'm not aware. I'd 695 00:34:24,160 --> 00:34:26,040 Speaker 1: have to look more into this, but I'm curious what 696 00:34:26,120 --> 00:34:28,520 Speaker 1: other people do. So maybe there's a form or something 697 00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:32,800 Speaker 1: online where people can, you know, where other cruise ship 698 00:34:33,239 --> 00:34:36,160 Speaker 1: employees talk about what they do to stay connected on 699 00:34:36,360 --> 00:34:40,719 Speaker 1: the ship. So that's number one. Number two, when you 700 00:34:40,800 --> 00:34:45,759 Speaker 1: are in port, there are various ways to tackle this. 701 00:34:45,880 --> 00:34:46,279 Speaker 2: Number one. 702 00:34:46,440 --> 00:34:49,760 Speaker 1: Her cell phone plan may include provisions for certain places 703 00:34:49,800 --> 00:34:53,160 Speaker 1: she goes, so I would check to see what's included, specifically, 704 00:34:53,200 --> 00:34:53,800 Speaker 1: Team Mobile. 705 00:34:55,560 --> 00:34:56,919 Speaker 2: Okay, what companies she using? 706 00:34:56,960 --> 00:34:57,239 Speaker 5: Do you know? 707 00:34:58,400 --> 00:34:58,640 Speaker 9: Yeah? 708 00:34:58,719 --> 00:35:00,880 Speaker 12: Right now, she is with Mobile. 709 00:35:00,960 --> 00:35:03,000 Speaker 1: Okay, she's with US Mobile, so they're more of like 710 00:35:03,040 --> 00:35:05,239 Speaker 1: an all a cart thing. So US Mobile may give 711 00:35:05,239 --> 00:35:07,880 Speaker 1: you the option to add some international roaming. I'd definitely 712 00:35:07,920 --> 00:35:10,560 Speaker 1: look into that, or you might even look into switching 713 00:35:10,560 --> 00:35:13,640 Speaker 1: to something like T Mobile that offers the international roaming. 714 00:35:14,120 --> 00:35:15,920 Speaker 1: The other thing you can do, and this is an 715 00:35:15,920 --> 00:35:18,879 Speaker 1: app that's really really good that I've used around the world. 716 00:35:18,920 --> 00:35:23,360 Speaker 1: It's called Aralo ai r Alo and they sell SIM 717 00:35:23,440 --> 00:35:26,200 Speaker 1: cards for different places. So what she can do is 718 00:35:26,280 --> 00:35:28,759 Speaker 1: activate a couple of these SIM cards on her phone. 719 00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:29,520 Speaker 1: They're e sims. 720 00:35:29,560 --> 00:35:31,200 Speaker 2: It's all electronic, it's all digital. 721 00:35:31,920 --> 00:35:33,920 Speaker 1: And then when she goes if she's going to the 722 00:35:33,920 --> 00:35:36,719 Speaker 1: same ports over and over, she can just activate that 723 00:35:36,800 --> 00:35:39,240 Speaker 1: card once again. It may cost you know, ten bucks, 724 00:35:39,280 --> 00:35:42,680 Speaker 1: five bucks here and there, but you know, for maybe 725 00:35:42,680 --> 00:35:45,239 Speaker 1: some of the main places that she she's always stopping at, 726 00:35:45,320 --> 00:35:47,520 Speaker 1: that might be a good idea. The other thing I'd 727 00:35:47,560 --> 00:35:50,440 Speaker 1: recommend is just figure out the Wi Fi calling situation 728 00:35:50,600 --> 00:35:54,040 Speaker 1: and when she gets to these different places, learn the 729 00:35:54,120 --> 00:35:58,759 Speaker 1: different cafes and hotels that will offer Wi Fi for free. 730 00:35:58,840 --> 00:36:02,000 Speaker 2: And just lean on them for the connectivity. So that's 731 00:36:02,040 --> 00:36:02,680 Speaker 2: what I would do. 732 00:36:02,840 --> 00:36:04,960 Speaker 1: I've been, you know, sort of around the world with 733 00:36:05,360 --> 00:36:08,440 Speaker 1: cell phone connectivity. It has changed a lot in the 734 00:36:08,480 --> 00:36:11,560 Speaker 1: past ten fifteen years. Used to be when I went 735 00:36:11,600 --> 00:36:13,800 Speaker 1: to certain countries, I just knew I was out of touch. 736 00:36:14,200 --> 00:36:16,200 Speaker 1: And at this point, I don't think there's really a 737 00:36:16,200 --> 00:36:18,719 Speaker 1: place except out at sea where you need to be 738 00:36:18,800 --> 00:36:22,480 Speaker 1: out of touch. So great question, Scott, and uh, hopefully 739 00:36:22,480 --> 00:36:25,440 Speaker 1: she embraces and enjoys the fact that she's sort of 740 00:36:25,480 --> 00:36:26,520 Speaker 1: disconnected from the world. 741 00:36:26,520 --> 00:36:28,200 Speaker 2: When do we get a chance to do that? But 742 00:36:28,320 --> 00:36:30,200 Speaker 2: knowing she can be reachable in an emergency. 743 00:36:30,800 --> 00:36:32,919 Speaker 1: Phone lines are open triple eight Rich one on one 744 00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:35,680 Speaker 1: eight eight eight seven four to two, four to one 745 00:36:35,800 --> 00:36:36,359 Speaker 1: zero one. 746 00:36:36,400 --> 00:36:37,000 Speaker 2: Give me a call. 747 00:36:37,120 --> 00:36:41,680 Speaker 1: You're listening to rich on Tech. Welcome back to rich 748 00:36:41,760 --> 00:36:46,120 Speaker 1: on Tech. Rich DeMuro here hanging out with you, talking 749 00:36:46,160 --> 00:36:49,520 Speaker 1: technology at triple eight rich one oh one. That's eight 750 00:36:49,600 --> 00:36:55,960 Speaker 1: eight eight seven four to two four one zero one. 751 00:36:56,560 --> 00:37:01,080 Speaker 1: Bring me right back to my middle school dances. All 752 00:37:01,160 --> 00:37:05,080 Speaker 1: nervous trying to ask her to dance with you. Never 753 00:37:05,120 --> 00:37:08,840 Speaker 1: I don't think I ever did so so nerve racking. 754 00:37:09,400 --> 00:37:11,319 Speaker 1: And now my kid's going through that and I'm like, yeah, 755 00:37:11,440 --> 00:37:14,640 Speaker 1: go go go ask, Just get in there, and you know, 756 00:37:14,840 --> 00:37:16,640 Speaker 1: see what happens. 757 00:37:16,680 --> 00:37:17,960 Speaker 2: Easier said than done. I know. 758 00:37:18,920 --> 00:37:19,040 Speaker 13: Uh. 759 00:37:19,280 --> 00:37:19,920 Speaker 2: Kind of funny. 760 00:37:20,040 --> 00:37:22,600 Speaker 1: You ever just feel kind of like sometimes you did 761 00:37:22,600 --> 00:37:23,200 Speaker 1: the wrong thing. 762 00:37:23,360 --> 00:37:25,560 Speaker 2: So kind of a funny story. 763 00:37:25,600 --> 00:37:28,279 Speaker 1: So I Samsung reached out to me and they said, hey, 764 00:37:29,760 --> 00:37:32,000 Speaker 1: would you like to see your pictures on a billboard? 765 00:37:32,000 --> 00:37:34,520 Speaker 1: And I said, of course, And they said, just take 766 00:37:34,520 --> 00:37:37,440 Speaker 1: a couple of two hundred megapixel pictures with the S 767 00:37:37,480 --> 00:37:40,319 Speaker 1: twenty three Ultra and send them to us, and We're 768 00:37:40,320 --> 00:37:43,680 Speaker 1: going to do this billboard event in the UK. We're 769 00:37:43,680 --> 00:37:46,560 Speaker 1: going to show your pictures on there, and obviously, since 770 00:37:46,600 --> 00:37:48,440 Speaker 1: you can't be there, we'll snap a picture of your 771 00:37:48,480 --> 00:37:50,080 Speaker 1: pictures on the billboard and we'll send it to you. 772 00:37:50,120 --> 00:37:52,840 Speaker 1: And said, oh, that's really cool. So I'm in Hawaii. 773 00:37:53,680 --> 00:37:56,319 Speaker 1: I take a couple of cool, like landscape photos. You 774 00:37:56,320 --> 00:37:58,479 Speaker 1: could see these on my Instagram at rich On Tech. 775 00:37:58,840 --> 00:38:00,919 Speaker 1: I send them in. I don't hear anything. I guess 776 00:38:00,960 --> 00:38:02,360 Speaker 1: this weekend happens whatever. 777 00:38:02,480 --> 00:38:02,800 Speaker 2: Whenever. 778 00:38:02,840 --> 00:38:06,120 Speaker 1: It was last weekend, and finally get this email with 779 00:38:06,160 --> 00:38:07,600 Speaker 1: the picture of the billboard and I was like, oh 780 00:38:07,600 --> 00:38:10,160 Speaker 1: my gosh, that's so cool. And so I posted on 781 00:38:10,239 --> 00:38:12,319 Speaker 1: Instagram and I knew other people were gonna get their 782 00:38:12,360 --> 00:38:14,280 Speaker 1: pictures on this billboard too, it was going to rotate 783 00:38:14,320 --> 00:38:16,480 Speaker 1: through them. Well, first off, I thought it was funny 784 00:38:16,480 --> 00:38:19,400 Speaker 1: that they didn't put my or anyone's handle on the picture, 785 00:38:19,480 --> 00:38:21,520 Speaker 1: so you just see my pictures, which is cool, But 786 00:38:21,560 --> 00:38:23,680 Speaker 1: it doesn't say like rich On Tech anywhere whatever. I'm 787 00:38:23,680 --> 00:38:26,440 Speaker 1: fine with that. It's still cool to see your pictures 788 00:38:26,440 --> 00:38:28,600 Speaker 1: on a billboard. But the funny thing is I was 789 00:38:28,640 --> 00:38:31,279 Speaker 1: flipping through other people's pictures that they put up there. 790 00:38:31,520 --> 00:38:34,880 Speaker 1: Every other person took a picture of themselves because it 791 00:38:34,920 --> 00:38:37,680 Speaker 1: makes sense. You see yourself on this giant billboard in 792 00:38:37,719 --> 00:38:41,160 Speaker 1: the UK. Duh, Like anyone can see a picture of 793 00:38:41,200 --> 00:38:44,400 Speaker 1: Hawaii anywhere, just open up like the Internet. But you know, 794 00:38:44,520 --> 00:38:46,880 Speaker 1: to see yourself on this billboard is a lot cooler. 795 00:38:46,920 --> 00:38:50,200 Speaker 1: So I felt like I went from feeling like really 796 00:38:50,239 --> 00:38:53,440 Speaker 1: cool as I was scrolling through everyone else's pictures feeling 797 00:38:53,520 --> 00:38:56,600 Speaker 1: kind of like, oh, whoops, I really miss you know, 798 00:38:56,680 --> 00:38:58,560 Speaker 1: mess that one up, Sony. If you want to see 799 00:38:58,560 --> 00:39:00,960 Speaker 1: the pictures, I still think they're nice, you can check 800 00:39:00,960 --> 00:39:03,000 Speaker 1: them out on my Instagram at rich On Tech. Anyway, 801 00:39:03,040 --> 00:39:06,360 Speaker 1: thank you Samsung for the cool opportunity. Uh this is 802 00:39:06,400 --> 00:39:10,600 Speaker 1: the Piccadilly billboard in London. I don't think I saw 803 00:39:10,640 --> 00:39:11,960 Speaker 1: that when I went to London. I was only in 804 00:39:11,960 --> 00:39:14,840 Speaker 1: London for like forty eight hours once. I don't know 805 00:39:14,840 --> 00:39:19,920 Speaker 1: if I remember that thing. Let's go to uh Eon 806 00:39:20,320 --> 00:39:21,239 Speaker 1: in Norwalk. 807 00:39:21,520 --> 00:39:22,719 Speaker 2: Eon? Am I saying that right? 808 00:39:22,760 --> 00:39:26,320 Speaker 3: You're on with rich Yes, yes you are, thank you. Listen. 809 00:39:26,440 --> 00:39:28,840 Speaker 3: I am a VISUALI in per and I want to 810 00:39:28,880 --> 00:39:33,120 Speaker 3: know whether I can use the Sampson fond to get 811 00:39:33,160 --> 00:39:38,760 Speaker 3: stop to it for research and dial Oh uh yeah 812 00:39:38,880 --> 00:39:39,240 Speaker 3: I would. 813 00:39:39,280 --> 00:39:40,719 Speaker 2: I would think you'll be able to do that. 814 00:39:40,840 --> 00:39:43,600 Speaker 1: I I don't have as much experience on the Samsung 815 00:39:43,800 --> 00:39:47,759 Speaker 1: side of things with the accessibility tools, but I would 816 00:39:47,760 --> 00:39:52,680 Speaker 1: think that Samsung has just as many accessibility features as 817 00:39:52,880 --> 00:39:56,239 Speaker 1: Andrew as a you know, iPhone, and also Pixel. So 818 00:39:56,560 --> 00:39:59,719 Speaker 1: you're looking at You're looking at things like talk back, 819 00:40:00,040 --> 00:40:01,720 Speaker 1: which we'll read what's on the screen. 820 00:40:01,800 --> 00:40:02,520 Speaker 2: Is that what you need? 821 00:40:03,800 --> 00:40:08,200 Speaker 3: No? Yeah, no, Y just research. Let's say that I 822 00:40:08,239 --> 00:40:12,799 Speaker 3: want to listen to a YouTube video and you said 823 00:40:12,840 --> 00:40:14,760 Speaker 3: YouTube and whatever video wanna? 824 00:40:15,719 --> 00:40:18,120 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I think you'll be able to use Bixby 825 00:40:18,120 --> 00:40:22,520 Speaker 1: for those things easily. I think Bixby is actually pretty 826 00:40:22,560 --> 00:40:25,839 Speaker 1: good for that. That's their voice assistant, So I think 827 00:40:25,840 --> 00:40:27,560 Speaker 1: that that's a good way to do it. The other 828 00:40:27,600 --> 00:40:29,920 Speaker 1: phone to look at is called the Pixel from Google. 829 00:40:31,200 --> 00:40:33,160 Speaker 1: I would say look at that one as well and 830 00:40:33,200 --> 00:40:35,400 Speaker 1: see kind of compare the features. But I think that 831 00:40:36,280 --> 00:40:39,120 Speaker 1: the accessibility tools on Samsung are going to be are 832 00:40:39,160 --> 00:40:41,319 Speaker 1: going to be pretty good for what you need. 833 00:40:41,400 --> 00:40:42,160 Speaker 5: Have you ever pixel? 834 00:40:42,200 --> 00:40:43,640 Speaker 3: Which one is better Pixel or. 835 00:40:45,239 --> 00:40:45,719 Speaker 14: Which one? 836 00:40:45,920 --> 00:40:49,080 Speaker 1: I mean, it depends. I M that's a good question 837 00:40:49,760 --> 00:40:54,279 Speaker 1: specifically when it comes to the accessibility tools. I don't 838 00:40:54,280 --> 00:40:56,680 Speaker 1: have a ton of experience with either of those tools. 839 00:40:56,760 --> 00:40:59,000 Speaker 1: I mean, I've seen you know, Pixel has a lot 840 00:40:59,040 --> 00:41:01,359 Speaker 1: of tools that will read things back to you, and 841 00:41:01,400 --> 00:41:04,080 Speaker 1: also their Google Assistant is really good, and also text 842 00:41:04,160 --> 00:41:07,680 Speaker 1: to speech is really good. But again, Samsung, you know, 843 00:41:07,719 --> 00:41:09,480 Speaker 1: I think they've put a lot of work into this 844 00:41:09,600 --> 00:41:12,840 Speaker 1: as well, and I think Bixby's pretty good. So have 845 00:41:12,960 --> 00:41:15,360 Speaker 1: you ever used a cell phone or a smartphone before? 846 00:41:15,440 --> 00:41:15,840 Speaker 9: No? 847 00:41:15,840 --> 00:41:18,399 Speaker 3: No, I I when I when I when I used 848 00:41:18,440 --> 00:41:23,719 Speaker 3: to see, uh, in college, right tech, the teacher would 849 00:41:23,840 --> 00:41:26,439 Speaker 3: like talk to the phone, I said, Now that I'm 850 00:41:26,600 --> 00:41:29,040 Speaker 3: usually impressed in maybe I can use something like that. 851 00:41:29,920 --> 00:41:32,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I think most of the modern smartphones 852 00:41:32,560 --> 00:41:35,280 Speaker 1: are going to have the text to speech and also 853 00:41:35,320 --> 00:41:38,360 Speaker 1: the talkback features, which which pretty much reads what's on 854 00:41:38,400 --> 00:41:41,680 Speaker 1: the screen back to you. And I think that getting 855 00:41:41,800 --> 00:41:44,200 Speaker 1: used to those that functionality is probably going to be 856 00:41:44,400 --> 00:41:47,239 Speaker 1: the toughest part is learning what it can do and 857 00:41:47,280 --> 00:41:49,480 Speaker 1: also what it's capable of and how to use it. 858 00:41:49,480 --> 00:41:52,080 Speaker 1: But for voice styling, that's pretty simple, that's going to 859 00:41:52,120 --> 00:41:53,160 Speaker 1: be very straightforward. 860 00:41:53,640 --> 00:41:53,960 Speaker 2: Really. 861 00:41:54,000 --> 00:41:57,080 Speaker 1: When it comes to actually using the phone, the back 862 00:41:57,120 --> 00:42:00,680 Speaker 1: and forth of what's on the screen, it's it telling me, 863 00:42:01,160 --> 00:42:04,000 Speaker 1: you know, to do, and also being able to perform 864 00:42:04,040 --> 00:42:09,200 Speaker 1: those functions all in a voice manner. It's probably going 865 00:42:09,280 --> 00:42:10,879 Speaker 1: to be a little tricky at first, but I think, 866 00:42:10,920 --> 00:42:12,640 Speaker 1: like anything else, you'll probably get used to it and 867 00:42:12,800 --> 00:42:15,759 Speaker 1: understand the capabilities of what this thing can do. But 868 00:42:16,040 --> 00:42:19,600 Speaker 1: from what I've seen, yeah, I think you'll you'll be 869 00:42:19,600 --> 00:42:21,760 Speaker 1: pretty good with the Samsung if you have a Samsung 870 00:42:21,800 --> 00:42:24,279 Speaker 1: in mind, So keep me. 871 00:42:24,239 --> 00:42:27,160 Speaker 2: Posted on that. Okay, okay, thank you so much, Alrighteon, 872 00:42:27,280 --> 00:42:28,239 Speaker 2: thank you appreciate that. 873 00:42:29,080 --> 00:42:31,560 Speaker 1: Uh triple eight rich one O one eight eight eight 874 00:42:31,680 --> 00:42:34,960 Speaker 1: seven four to two four one zero one. Most of 875 00:42:35,000 --> 00:42:38,399 Speaker 1: the major smartphone companies have put a lot of thought 876 00:42:38,400 --> 00:42:43,960 Speaker 1: into accessibility in making these phones easier to use than 877 00:42:44,440 --> 00:42:49,480 Speaker 1: ever before. I mean, Pixel does it, Samsung, But you know, 878 00:42:49,520 --> 00:42:51,640 Speaker 1: it's one of these things that if you're not actively 879 00:42:51,760 --> 00:42:55,480 Speaker 1: using it and you don't necessarily need it, you don't 880 00:42:55,800 --> 00:42:57,920 Speaker 1: really dive into those features. A lot of times when 881 00:42:57,960 --> 00:43:00,000 Speaker 1: we look at these accessibility features, when you see them 882 00:43:00,120 --> 00:43:02,880 Speaker 1: kind of spring up on places like Instagram and TikTok, 883 00:43:03,280 --> 00:43:06,440 Speaker 1: it's mostly for sort of a hack using the phone. 884 00:43:06,960 --> 00:43:09,839 Speaker 1: So there's like a lot of these accessibility features that 885 00:43:09,880 --> 00:43:14,239 Speaker 1: are meant for people of varying abilities, and people find 886 00:43:14,400 --> 00:43:19,200 Speaker 1: ways to use them, you know, for convenience, whether it's 887 00:43:19,560 --> 00:43:23,160 Speaker 1: guided access, whether it's voiceover, whether it's the tapping the 888 00:43:23,160 --> 00:43:25,520 Speaker 1: back of the phone to perform some sort of functionality. 889 00:43:25,840 --> 00:43:27,719 Speaker 1: So that's most of the experience that I have with 890 00:43:27,760 --> 00:43:30,400 Speaker 1: those things. But if you need to use it, I 891 00:43:30,400 --> 00:43:32,520 Speaker 1: think it's a matter of learning and going to some 892 00:43:32,560 --> 00:43:34,600 Speaker 1: of those resources that can help you with that stuff. 893 00:43:36,000 --> 00:43:40,840 Speaker 1: All right, Netflix, can you believe it after twenty five 894 00:43:40,960 --> 00:43:45,240 Speaker 1: years no more DVDs? Did you even know that Netflix 895 00:43:45,280 --> 00:43:49,279 Speaker 1: still sent out DVDs? Yes, they do, And a couple 896 00:43:49,239 --> 00:43:51,960 Speaker 1: of years ago they spun off this business to DVD 897 00:43:52,080 --> 00:43:55,560 Speaker 1: dot com. They tried to change the name, I think 898 00:43:55,600 --> 00:43:59,120 Speaker 1: it was Quickstir or something a couple of years ago, 899 00:43:59,200 --> 00:44:03,080 Speaker 1: and that just went totally bad. And so they just said, okay, 900 00:44:03,160 --> 00:44:06,480 Speaker 1: dvd dot com. But twenty five years and I was 901 00:44:06,520 --> 00:44:10,399 Speaker 1: one of the first customers of Netflix when it came out. 902 00:44:11,280 --> 00:44:14,800 Speaker 1: And I would love to show you my first email 903 00:44:14,880 --> 00:44:16,880 Speaker 1: or tell you about my first email from Netflix, but 904 00:44:16,920 --> 00:44:19,759 Speaker 1: my email does not go back that far. Gmail came 905 00:44:19,800 --> 00:44:23,799 Speaker 1: out in April two thousand and four, so my earliest 906 00:44:24,200 --> 00:44:28,359 Speaker 1: email I have from Netflix is Tuesday, July fifth, two 907 00:44:28,400 --> 00:44:33,840 Speaker 1: thousand and five. I ordered the DVD Hitch with Will Smith. 908 00:44:34,440 --> 00:44:38,600 Speaker 1: It was going to arrive on or around Wednesday, July sixth, 909 00:44:38,880 --> 00:44:43,440 Speaker 1: two thousand and five. Remember that Netflix got really good 910 00:44:43,520 --> 00:44:47,560 Speaker 1: and really fast about these DVDs. Basically, as soon as 911 00:44:47,600 --> 00:44:50,279 Speaker 1: you put the DVD in the mail, the USPS would 912 00:44:50,320 --> 00:44:54,000 Speaker 1: scan it and that would send the signal to Netflix 913 00:44:54,040 --> 00:44:55,680 Speaker 1: to send you your next DVD. 914 00:44:55,840 --> 00:44:56,840 Speaker 2: Remember, you had your. 915 00:44:56,760 --> 00:44:59,120 Speaker 1: Queue, so you really didn't know what you were going 916 00:44:59,200 --> 00:45:02,480 Speaker 1: to be watching on a Friday night. It basically was 917 00:45:02,560 --> 00:45:06,600 Speaker 1: determined by what arrived, and if your movie didn't arrive 918 00:45:06,680 --> 00:45:09,760 Speaker 1: in time, well you weren't watching it, and that happened often. 919 00:45:10,160 --> 00:45:12,920 Speaker 1: But then of course you would upgrade to more a 920 00:45:12,960 --> 00:45:15,560 Speaker 1: higher plan that offered more DVDs out at once, you'd 921 00:45:15,560 --> 00:45:17,640 Speaker 1: get two or three of these things, but then when 922 00:45:17,680 --> 00:45:19,600 Speaker 1: you were feeling like it was too expensive, you'd drop 923 00:45:19,680 --> 00:45:21,839 Speaker 1: down to one. These were all the things we had 924 00:45:21,880 --> 00:45:24,480 Speaker 1: to do. So Netflix is going to ship out their 925 00:45:24,520 --> 00:45:29,640 Speaker 1: final discs on September twenty ninth, twenty twenty three. Netflix 926 00:45:29,680 --> 00:45:32,080 Speaker 1: says that this changed the way people watch shows and 927 00:45:32,120 --> 00:45:32,799 Speaker 1: movies at home. 928 00:45:32,920 --> 00:45:33,640 Speaker 2: Absolutely. 929 00:45:33,680 --> 00:45:37,000 Speaker 1: We went from Blockbuster to the DVDs by mail, and 930 00:45:37,040 --> 00:45:39,279 Speaker 1: then of course to streaming. When that came along when 931 00:45:39,320 --> 00:45:44,360 Speaker 1: that was better. Let's see, the first DVD shipped was 932 00:45:44,520 --> 00:45:49,279 Speaker 1: Beetlejuice March tenth, nineteen ninety eight. So I'm trying to 933 00:45:49,280 --> 00:45:51,880 Speaker 1: remember the DVDs. I remember because I was such an 934 00:45:51,880 --> 00:45:54,279 Speaker 1: early customer of Netflix. I thought it was such a 935 00:45:54,280 --> 00:45:58,840 Speaker 1: cool kind of idea that the DVDs. Every time I 936 00:45:58,880 --> 00:46:01,680 Speaker 1: got one, it would come in different packaging because they 937 00:46:01,680 --> 00:46:05,480 Speaker 1: were experimenting with the early packaging to see what worked 938 00:46:05,480 --> 00:46:07,360 Speaker 1: and what did it. So at one point when I 939 00:46:07,360 --> 00:46:09,920 Speaker 1: first got the DVD, it was in all this padding 940 00:46:10,120 --> 00:46:13,200 Speaker 1: and it was a really thick envelope with like foam inside. 941 00:46:13,560 --> 00:46:15,880 Speaker 1: And then towards the end, they were literally just sending 942 00:46:15,920 --> 00:46:19,279 Speaker 1: like DVDs through the mail like without anything because they're like, ah, 943 00:46:19,280 --> 00:46:21,920 Speaker 1: we don't care if these things get damage, scratched, lost, whatever. 944 00:46:21,960 --> 00:46:22,840 Speaker 2: They're so cheap. 945 00:46:23,480 --> 00:46:27,360 Speaker 1: It was just literally the envelopes were so flimsy towards 946 00:46:27,360 --> 00:46:29,040 Speaker 1: the end that it was just kind of a joke. 947 00:46:29,760 --> 00:46:33,680 Speaker 1: Number of DVDs shipped five point two billion. Most popular title, 948 00:46:33,800 --> 00:46:39,719 Speaker 1: The blind Side. Number of DVDs supported twenty main genres, 949 00:46:39,760 --> 00:46:43,080 Speaker 1: five hundred and thirty subgenres. Unique subscribers over the year 950 00:46:43,120 --> 00:46:47,640 Speaker 1: forty million so again, if you have some outstanding DVDs. 951 00:46:47,680 --> 00:46:50,480 Speaker 1: September twenty ninth, twenty twenty three, end of an era. 952 00:46:51,440 --> 00:46:53,520 Speaker 1: I don't even have a DVD player at this point, 953 00:46:53,600 --> 00:46:54,880 Speaker 1: so I couldn't even play a DVD. 954 00:46:55,360 --> 00:46:55,680 Speaker 2: All right. 955 00:46:55,680 --> 00:46:57,440 Speaker 1: Coming up on the show, we got lots more to 956 00:46:57,440 --> 00:47:00,640 Speaker 1: talk about. I'm excited for this interview. We've got Martin Cooper. 957 00:47:01,480 --> 00:47:06,319 Speaker 1: He is known as the father of the smartphone. Yes, 958 00:47:06,719 --> 00:47:09,600 Speaker 1: he made one of the first cellular calls ever. He's 959 00:47:09,640 --> 00:47:11,799 Speaker 1: gonna join me live to talk about that. Later, we're 960 00:47:11,800 --> 00:47:14,279 Speaker 1: gonna talk about how to remove your personal information from 961 00:47:14,280 --> 00:47:17,399 Speaker 1: the Internet. But first your calls Triple eight rich one 962 00:47:17,440 --> 00:47:22,120 Speaker 1: oh one. You are listening to rich on Tech. Welcome 963 00:47:22,160 --> 00:47:25,600 Speaker 1: back to rich on Tech. This is the show where 964 00:47:25,600 --> 00:47:27,720 Speaker 1: I talk about the tech stuff I think you should 965 00:47:27,760 --> 00:47:32,160 Speaker 1: know about, and it's where I answer your questions about technology. 966 00:47:32,560 --> 00:47:36,680 Speaker 1: You can find me online at rich on Tech, on Instagram, Twitter, 967 00:47:37,000 --> 00:47:40,520 Speaker 1: yeah I'm still there, and Facebook, or go to rich 968 00:47:40,760 --> 00:47:44,480 Speaker 1: on Tech dot tv. It's still me on Twitter. Even 969 00:47:44,520 --> 00:47:47,759 Speaker 1: though my blue check mark that I've had for ten 970 00:47:47,800 --> 00:47:52,160 Speaker 1: plus years is gone and I'm probably not gonna pay 971 00:47:52,200 --> 00:47:54,839 Speaker 1: to get it back because I just don't think it's 972 00:47:54,880 --> 00:47:58,680 Speaker 1: worth it, but whatever, those are my problems, not yours. 973 00:47:58,920 --> 00:48:01,040 Speaker 2: Matthew is in your We had a Matthew You're on 974 00:48:01,120 --> 00:48:03,000 Speaker 2: with Rich Hi. 975 00:48:03,120 --> 00:48:07,280 Speaker 15: Rich have a question planning and upcoming family reunion this summer, 976 00:48:07,640 --> 00:48:09,960 Speaker 15: and we're doing a bunch of back and forth emails 977 00:48:10,000 --> 00:48:12,960 Speaker 15: that aren't working. Just wondering if you had any sort 978 00:48:12,960 --> 00:48:16,840 Speaker 15: of messaging or any collaboration tool suggestion or planning a 979 00:48:16,920 --> 00:48:19,120 Speaker 15: family reunion here in southern California. 980 00:48:19,239 --> 00:48:21,680 Speaker 2: Oh, good question. We did this last year. 981 00:48:22,200 --> 00:48:24,640 Speaker 1: We went up to Bend, Oregon with a whole bunch 982 00:48:24,640 --> 00:48:28,360 Speaker 1: of people, and yeah, it was a mess. There was 983 00:48:28,440 --> 00:48:34,440 Speaker 1: not one clear way. When we first started planning, someone 984 00:48:34,480 --> 00:48:37,040 Speaker 1: suggested we all get on Signal, And I don't know 985 00:48:37,040 --> 00:48:38,840 Speaker 1: if you know what Signal is, but it's like the 986 00:48:38,880 --> 00:48:42,560 Speaker 1: most secure chat app in the world, and so I 987 00:48:42,600 --> 00:48:44,360 Speaker 1: was just like, that's not going to work. Like that 988 00:48:44,520 --> 00:48:48,520 Speaker 1: is just not going to work. So my recommendation is 989 00:48:48,560 --> 00:48:52,960 Speaker 1: to get on a cross platform app that allows you 990 00:48:53,040 --> 00:48:56,000 Speaker 1: to do everything the same, no matter if you're on 991 00:48:56,239 --> 00:49:00,279 Speaker 1: iPhone or Android. Now, this group chat could get kind 992 00:49:00,280 --> 00:49:03,160 Speaker 1: of filled up with a lot of different people and 993 00:49:03,239 --> 00:49:05,279 Speaker 1: a lot of different thoughts, so that's definitely going to 994 00:49:05,320 --> 00:49:07,960 Speaker 1: be an issue. But to have one place where you 995 00:49:07,960 --> 00:49:10,840 Speaker 1: can go back and search what people said and suggestions 996 00:49:10,880 --> 00:49:14,920 Speaker 1: and things like that. My favorite is Telegram. Have you 997 00:49:15,320 --> 00:49:16,440 Speaker 1: heard of Telegram? 998 00:49:16,880 --> 00:49:17,400 Speaker 15: Yes? I have? 999 00:49:17,680 --> 00:49:18,839 Speaker 2: Are you on Telegram? 1000 00:49:19,600 --> 00:49:21,840 Speaker 15: I have it on my phone, but I haven't signed 1001 00:49:21,920 --> 00:49:22,600 Speaker 15: up for it yet. 1002 00:49:22,680 --> 00:49:25,680 Speaker 1: Okay, So that's probably the best thing I ever got 1003 00:49:25,760 --> 00:49:29,160 Speaker 1: my family to get on. About three years ago, right 1004 00:49:29,200 --> 00:49:31,839 Speaker 1: before the pandemic. We all signed up and we have 1005 00:49:32,000 --> 00:49:34,879 Speaker 1: a couple of different group chats, and you may want 1006 00:49:34,920 --> 00:49:38,600 Speaker 1: to create several group chats based on, you know, the 1007 00:49:38,600 --> 00:49:42,200 Speaker 1: people that are organizing versus people attending, and maybe you 1008 00:49:42,200 --> 00:49:44,520 Speaker 1: know different things like that. But what I love about 1009 00:49:44,520 --> 00:49:46,880 Speaker 1: this is not only can you chat back and forth 1010 00:49:46,920 --> 00:49:50,280 Speaker 1: and the features are the same on iPhone or Android, 1011 00:49:50,280 --> 00:49:51,960 Speaker 1: because you don't the last thing you want to do 1012 00:49:52,040 --> 00:49:53,960 Speaker 1: is use texting for this, because that's just not going 1013 00:49:54,040 --> 00:49:58,720 Speaker 1: to work. But if you tap into your your group chat, 1014 00:49:59,120 --> 00:50:01,200 Speaker 1: you can see all all the different things that people 1015 00:50:01,200 --> 00:50:03,480 Speaker 1: have exchanged. You can go and look at the media, 1016 00:50:03,560 --> 00:50:06,680 Speaker 1: which are the photos and videos that people have exchanged. 1017 00:50:06,719 --> 00:50:08,839 Speaker 1: We'll give you kind of a whole catalog of those, 1018 00:50:08,920 --> 00:50:12,239 Speaker 1: like an album. You've got files, So if you had 1019 00:50:12,239 --> 00:50:14,160 Speaker 1: a file that you want to put like a PDF 1020 00:50:14,239 --> 00:50:15,080 Speaker 1: or something like that. 1021 00:50:15,160 --> 00:50:16,480 Speaker 2: You can look in the files. 1022 00:50:17,160 --> 00:50:20,680 Speaker 1: There's voice messages, there are links, so if someone sends 1023 00:50:20,680 --> 00:50:23,000 Speaker 1: a link, you can easily look through and see the links. 1024 00:50:23,360 --> 00:50:25,960 Speaker 1: And of course gifts as well, so you can look 1025 00:50:26,000 --> 00:50:28,799 Speaker 1: through and see what people have done there. But there's 1026 00:50:28,800 --> 00:50:31,640 Speaker 1: also a search functionality, so you can search and see 1027 00:50:31,640 --> 00:50:35,600 Speaker 1: what people have said in the chats. And my favorite thing, 1028 00:50:36,600 --> 00:50:38,719 Speaker 1: not only do you have reactions and things like that, 1029 00:50:38,840 --> 00:50:42,280 Speaker 1: but you can pin stuff. So if there's something important 1030 00:50:42,280 --> 00:50:45,560 Speaker 1: that like, you know, where you're going to meet up 1031 00:50:45,680 --> 00:50:48,520 Speaker 1: or something that's you know, pertinent, you can pin, or 1032 00:50:48,560 --> 00:50:50,520 Speaker 1: a vote or a you know, whatever you want to do, 1033 00:50:50,920 --> 00:50:52,680 Speaker 1: you can pin that to the top of the chat. 1034 00:50:52,760 --> 00:50:55,799 Speaker 1: So I really like all that functionality. Now, the other 1035 00:50:55,840 --> 00:50:59,680 Speaker 1: thing that I'd probably recommend is a shared document, and 1036 00:50:59,760 --> 00:51:02,840 Speaker 1: so that would be something like Google Docs. Create a 1037 00:51:03,320 --> 00:51:07,719 Speaker 1: either a spreadsheet or some sort of shared folder file, whatever, 1038 00:51:08,440 --> 00:51:11,959 Speaker 1: and that way you can get everyone on the same 1039 00:51:12,000 --> 00:51:15,440 Speaker 1: page there with the itinerary. And then finally, the other 1040 00:51:15,480 --> 00:51:17,840 Speaker 1: thing that we did that I loved is we created 1041 00:51:17,880 --> 00:51:22,600 Speaker 1: a Google Photos album, and so when people took pictures, 1042 00:51:22,719 --> 00:51:25,600 Speaker 1: you just could drag and drop them into this album 1043 00:51:26,320 --> 00:51:29,799 Speaker 1: and then everyone could just download the pictures from that album. Now, 1044 00:51:30,200 --> 00:51:33,439 Speaker 1: now if that doesn't work, you can also just open 1045 00:51:33,520 --> 00:51:37,840 Speaker 1: up a Dropbox account and easily have everyone drag and 1046 00:51:37,920 --> 00:51:40,879 Speaker 1: drop their pictures into that shared folder and that way 1047 00:51:40,880 --> 00:51:43,600 Speaker 1: everyone could download the pictures as well. The problem is, 1048 00:51:43,680 --> 00:51:45,400 Speaker 1: I know you got a lot of folks on iPhones 1049 00:51:45,440 --> 00:51:48,640 Speaker 1: in the group because that's typically what happens, and they 1050 00:51:48,680 --> 00:51:50,920 Speaker 1: want to use all Apple stuff. The problem is Apple 1051 00:51:50,960 --> 00:51:53,759 Speaker 1: stuff does not play nicely with any other stuff. So 1052 00:51:54,000 --> 00:51:56,640 Speaker 1: my advice is to stay away from the Apple centric 1053 00:51:56,719 --> 00:51:59,279 Speaker 1: tools and to use stuff that is what I call 1054 00:51:59,320 --> 00:52:04,279 Speaker 1: cross platform. Matt Does that help you, Matthew, Yes it does. 1055 00:52:04,400 --> 00:52:07,080 Speaker 15: And what's something like like setting up a free web 1056 00:52:07,120 --> 00:52:10,680 Speaker 15: page through the Google web page? The system for an 1057 00:52:10,719 --> 00:52:13,120 Speaker 15: itinerary be a good system as well. 1058 00:52:13,800 --> 00:52:15,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean that's a you know, like if you 1059 00:52:15,560 --> 00:52:17,759 Speaker 1: just use Google sites and just you know, make it 1060 00:52:17,800 --> 00:52:19,560 Speaker 1: so that only your family can access it. 1061 00:52:19,600 --> 00:52:20,200 Speaker 2: Absolutely. 1062 00:52:20,440 --> 00:52:23,439 Speaker 1: Now, I'm sure there are some websites that are specifically 1063 00:52:23,480 --> 00:52:27,719 Speaker 1: tailored towards family reunion planning. The problem is there's those 1064 00:52:27,760 --> 00:52:30,880 Speaker 1: are probably operating on a freemium model, which means some 1065 00:52:30,960 --> 00:52:32,480 Speaker 1: of the stuff is going to be free and then 1066 00:52:32,560 --> 00:52:34,120 Speaker 1: some of the stuff you really want to use is 1067 00:52:34,160 --> 00:52:37,200 Speaker 1: going to cost you money, which you know you may 1068 00:52:37,320 --> 00:52:39,640 Speaker 1: or may not want to pay for. I think with 1069 00:52:39,680 --> 00:52:42,160 Speaker 1: all the free tools out there, you can easily do 1070 00:52:42,239 --> 00:52:44,960 Speaker 1: this stuff and make an itinerary if you want to 1071 00:52:44,960 --> 00:52:49,400 Speaker 1: do an itinerary that's shared with people. With folks, we 1072 00:52:49,480 --> 00:52:52,520 Speaker 1: talked about an app called Tripsy, and that might be 1073 00:52:52,560 --> 00:52:55,040 Speaker 1: a good way where you can share and put everyone's 1074 00:52:55,400 --> 00:53:00,960 Speaker 1: arrival information, hotel information, car rental whatever into one shared 1075 00:53:01,040 --> 00:53:03,520 Speaker 1: itinerary as well. So that's a good app. It's called 1076 00:53:03,520 --> 00:53:08,200 Speaker 1: Tripsy trips y last I checked, though, hold on, I 1077 00:53:08,280 --> 00:53:12,920 Speaker 1: might be actually, I might be contradicting myself because Tripsy 1078 00:53:13,080 --> 00:53:16,840 Speaker 1: might be just iOS and I think it is. 1079 00:53:17,080 --> 00:53:19,440 Speaker 15: Actually, if we had something like that, that would be 1080 00:53:19,480 --> 00:53:21,719 Speaker 15: perfect because we've got people coming from all corners of 1081 00:53:21,719 --> 00:53:24,080 Speaker 15: the country. Most people live in Orange County, but they're 1082 00:53:24,080 --> 00:53:29,319 Speaker 15: coming from Arizona, people from Baltimore, Portland, all over. And 1083 00:53:29,400 --> 00:53:32,920 Speaker 15: we're doing multiple events from Catalina Island to not Sperry 1084 00:53:33,080 --> 00:53:37,240 Speaker 15: Farm Cocktail Lounge and dinner night out in La because 1085 00:53:37,239 --> 00:53:39,480 Speaker 15: some of the family lives in LA. All kinds of 1086 00:53:39,520 --> 00:53:42,560 Speaker 15: things that get together just for the ants and uncles. 1087 00:53:42,560 --> 00:53:45,239 Speaker 15: Because my dad's one of nine kids. We're one. I'm 1088 00:53:45,239 --> 00:53:49,319 Speaker 15: one of twenty eight grandkids and twenty two great grandkids. 1089 00:53:49,360 --> 00:53:51,480 Speaker 15: So we've got a lot of cousins and second cousins 1090 00:53:51,520 --> 00:53:54,480 Speaker 15: getting together. We're doing multiple events, things for the adults, 1091 00:53:54,520 --> 00:53:56,920 Speaker 15: things for the adults with kids. So it would be 1092 00:53:56,960 --> 00:53:58,479 Speaker 15: nice to be able to know where people are saying, 1093 00:53:58,520 --> 00:54:00,640 Speaker 15: are you staying in a family members? How are you 1094 00:54:00,680 --> 00:54:03,200 Speaker 15: staying in a hotel? So we can all carpool because 1095 00:54:03,200 --> 00:54:05,800 Speaker 15: once you get to LA or Orange County, it's twenty 1096 00:54:05,840 --> 00:54:08,120 Speaker 15: five dollars to park, and that's very farm. It's thirty 1097 00:54:08,160 --> 00:54:11,120 Speaker 15: dollars to valet park in La at the carpool and 1098 00:54:11,160 --> 00:54:12,600 Speaker 15: save the money on the parking. 1099 00:54:12,760 --> 00:54:15,040 Speaker 2: It sounds like you've done your homework. Check out Trippet. 1100 00:54:15,080 --> 00:54:16,560 Speaker 1: I think that's going to be a better place for 1101 00:54:16,600 --> 00:54:20,040 Speaker 1: the shared itinerary because that's going to help you cross 1102 00:54:20,080 --> 00:54:22,160 Speaker 1: platform as well. It sounds like a lot of fun. 1103 00:54:22,200 --> 00:54:24,440 Speaker 1: I want to join you enjoy the family reunion. 1104 00:54:24,480 --> 00:54:24,840 Speaker 2: Matthew. 1105 00:54:25,040 --> 00:54:27,080 Speaker 1: All right, coming up, we are talking to Marty Cooper, 1106 00:54:27,680 --> 00:54:31,799 Speaker 1: the father of the smartphone. You're listening to rich on Tech. 1107 00:54:33,440 --> 00:54:37,120 Speaker 1: Welcome back to rich on Tech. Rich DeMuro here with 1108 00:54:37,320 --> 00:54:41,120 Speaker 1: you talking technology at triple eight Rich one oh one 1109 00:54:41,320 --> 00:54:43,239 Speaker 1: eight eight eight seven. 1110 00:54:43,120 --> 00:54:46,479 Speaker 2: Four to two four one zero one. 1111 00:54:47,239 --> 00:54:48,759 Speaker 1: You know if you listen to this show, one of 1112 00:54:48,800 --> 00:54:52,239 Speaker 1: my favorite topics in the world is the smartphone. But 1113 00:54:52,320 --> 00:54:56,400 Speaker 1: before there were smartphones, there were cell phones. And joining 1114 00:54:56,440 --> 00:54:59,759 Speaker 1: me now very excited for Martin Cooper. He is known 1115 00:54:59,800 --> 00:55:03,520 Speaker 1: as as the father of the cell phone, author of 1116 00:55:03,680 --> 00:55:08,640 Speaker 1: cutting the cord. The cell phone has transformed humanity. Martin, 1117 00:55:08,640 --> 00:55:12,480 Speaker 1: thanks so much for joining me, Hi pleasure, Rich do 1118 00:55:12,520 --> 00:55:13,720 Speaker 1: you go by Martin or Marty? 1119 00:55:13,719 --> 00:55:14,279 Speaker 2: What can I call? 1120 00:55:14,320 --> 00:55:14,400 Speaker 13: You? 1121 00:55:15,280 --> 00:55:16,680 Speaker 9: Call me? Marty is the old friend? 1122 00:55:17,840 --> 00:55:18,640 Speaker 2: Okay? Perfect? 1123 00:55:18,719 --> 00:55:23,480 Speaker 1: So Marty, you made one of the first calls ever 1124 00:55:23,680 --> 00:55:26,359 Speaker 1: on a handheld device. Can you bring me back to 1125 00:55:26,360 --> 00:55:26,839 Speaker 1: that day? 1126 00:55:28,719 --> 00:55:33,600 Speaker 9: I sure can. It was very Actually not the first call, Rich, 1127 00:55:34,080 --> 00:55:37,120 Speaker 9: it was the first public call. And you can bet 1128 00:55:37,160 --> 00:55:40,400 Speaker 9: that seemed to pluck that clothes together. But are tested 1129 00:55:40,440 --> 00:55:43,320 Speaker 9: at a hand of times. And before we took after 1130 00:55:44,080 --> 00:55:49,560 Speaker 9: this is April third, Tetivity three, and the locale was 1131 00:55:49,719 --> 00:55:53,360 Speaker 9: the New York City instead of the New York And 1132 00:55:53,480 --> 00:55:58,360 Speaker 9: the purpose of our call let's demonstrate to the world 1133 00:55:58,960 --> 00:56:02,560 Speaker 9: that it was possible to have the freedom that comes 1134 00:56:02,560 --> 00:56:06,080 Speaker 9: from being able to talk anywhere. And he placed on 1135 00:56:06,080 --> 00:56:10,799 Speaker 9: a personal phone. At the time, if you wanted to 1136 00:56:10,840 --> 00:56:13,680 Speaker 9: have a wired phone, there was only one way to 1137 00:56:13,719 --> 00:56:17,440 Speaker 9: get in the US, and that one's mini filmed the 1138 00:56:17,560 --> 00:56:22,520 Speaker 9: monopoly AT and T have. Their vision of the feature was, 1139 00:56:22,920 --> 00:56:27,800 Speaker 9: won't believe it's car phone? Oh yeah, we did trapped 1140 00:56:27,800 --> 00:56:31,520 Speaker 9: in our houses in office by that wire for over 1141 00:56:31,560 --> 00:56:34,200 Speaker 9: one hundred years. And now to day a belt and 1142 00:56:34,400 --> 00:56:36,719 Speaker 9: created the first phone. And now they were going to 1143 00:56:36,760 --> 00:56:39,920 Speaker 9: trap it to Paris. Now that was ata we did. 1144 00:56:40,200 --> 00:56:43,920 Speaker 9: We go and we were trying to persuade the sec 1145 00:56:44,920 --> 00:56:47,880 Speaker 9: that the first of all, there should be a monopoly. 1146 00:56:48,400 --> 00:56:51,840 Speaker 9: The second of all the time was really for personal 1147 00:56:52,200 --> 00:56:57,160 Speaker 9: all portable boats. Wow, pumpassing our demastation. 1148 00:56:57,760 --> 00:57:00,760 Speaker 1: And so you were forty four years old, you stepped 1149 00:57:00,800 --> 00:57:04,920 Speaker 1: outside onto sixth Avenue outside the New York Hilton, and 1150 00:57:05,040 --> 00:57:05,880 Speaker 1: you made a call. 1151 00:57:05,880 --> 00:57:10,600 Speaker 9: To who uh you won't from majors And it was 1152 00:57:10,800 --> 00:57:14,520 Speaker 9: very deg We were so worried about whether the forward 1153 00:57:14,680 --> 00:57:17,200 Speaker 9: work in the first place. I never thought about who 1154 00:57:17,280 --> 00:57:19,280 Speaker 9: I was going to call, and I was competently reported 1155 00:57:19,320 --> 00:57:25,800 Speaker 9: as too rich, and I uh decided to call my 1156 00:57:26,480 --> 00:57:30,040 Speaker 9: counterparts in the Bell system, someone that worked for at 1157 00:57:30,320 --> 00:57:34,919 Speaker 9: T is say it to a ango, and Joe's role 1158 00:57:35,200 --> 00:57:38,960 Speaker 9: in at G was still shut up the Mary so 1159 00:57:39,880 --> 00:57:44,080 Speaker 9: Car telephone system. Certainly we disagree with each other, and 1160 00:57:44,200 --> 00:57:47,360 Speaker 9: not that he thought about it very often because he 1161 00:57:47,520 --> 00:57:51,560 Speaker 9: was representing the biggest company in the world and there 1162 00:57:51,640 --> 00:57:54,480 Speaker 9: was just a little billion dollar company that she taught of. 1163 00:57:55,280 --> 00:57:59,160 Speaker 9: So I reached in my back pockets to my telephone 1164 00:57:59,200 --> 00:58:04,880 Speaker 9: books that must give you a message, what's up? Don't 1165 00:58:04,960 --> 00:58:09,200 Speaker 9: go the phone. I won't call them, and remarkably be 1166 00:58:09,440 --> 00:58:15,320 Speaker 9: after the phone out of Secretary Joel Barnie Cooper. If 1167 00:58:15,360 --> 00:58:21,720 Speaker 9: I'm right, true, I'm calling you, Joe. If I'm a 1168 00:58:23,240 --> 00:58:27,600 Speaker 9: have he telephone, but a real help something on personal 1169 00:58:28,240 --> 00:58:32,760 Speaker 9: have hell portable cell phone, it's. 1170 00:58:34,600 --> 00:58:34,640 Speaker 5: I. 1171 00:58:37,000 --> 00:58:41,000 Speaker 9: It's ignored. But to this day Joe doesn't remember that call. 1172 00:58:41,320 --> 00:58:44,000 Speaker 9: He doesn't dispute it. I had it, but I really 1173 00:58:44,080 --> 00:58:44,680 Speaker 9: don't claim him. 1174 00:58:45,280 --> 00:58:46,000 Speaker 2: That's wild. 1175 00:58:46,160 --> 00:58:49,960 Speaker 1: So you called your competition to say, look, I'm calling 1176 00:58:50,000 --> 00:58:52,640 Speaker 1: you from a phone that's going to work eventually anywhere, 1177 00:58:53,200 --> 00:58:55,160 Speaker 1: versus your phones that you were pushing that would be 1178 00:58:55,200 --> 00:58:59,000 Speaker 1: installed in cars. And of course I remember the first 1179 00:58:59,080 --> 00:59:01,360 Speaker 1: phones were installed in cars, and of course it was 1180 00:59:01,400 --> 00:59:05,320 Speaker 1: a bag phone. But you called this first phone a 1181 00:59:06,200 --> 00:59:06,840 Speaker 1: shoe phone. 1182 00:59:07,200 --> 00:59:07,400 Speaker 2: Why. 1183 00:59:08,920 --> 00:59:11,400 Speaker 9: Oh, actually we didn't call it the sea. It was 1184 00:59:12,000 --> 00:59:16,600 Speaker 9: xual sponsor to there remember that ut sponsors. I'm not 1185 00:59:16,680 --> 00:59:21,360 Speaker 9: going to tell you about You're obviously too young. But 1186 00:59:21,640 --> 00:59:27,400 Speaker 9: he was a comedian, uh uh later a secret at 1187 00:59:28,200 --> 00:59:30,560 Speaker 9: and he had a telephone and the heel of a 1188 00:59:30,680 --> 00:59:34,240 Speaker 9: shoe and uh he actually called a phone of the 1189 00:59:34,320 --> 00:59:40,120 Speaker 9: brick because of all the brick way to found and 1190 00:59:40,320 --> 00:59:44,920 Speaker 9: it was shake pretty much like a brick. Uh, supe 1191 00:59:46,360 --> 00:59:47,240 Speaker 9: Max Spondent. 1192 00:59:48,640 --> 00:59:53,240 Speaker 2: So, Marty, how old are you now? I'm not Afore 1193 00:59:54,200 --> 00:59:57,920 Speaker 2: what do you make of what you've seen in the. 1194 00:59:58,840 --> 01:00:01,560 Speaker 1: History of the cell phone in your lifetime since you 1195 01:00:01,680 --> 01:00:04,680 Speaker 1: made this first call? I mean it has come so far. 1196 01:00:06,840 --> 01:00:11,080 Speaker 9: Well, first of all, you know, we were certain that 1197 01:00:11,240 --> 01:00:12,960 Speaker 9: the cell phone was going to be a big deal. 1198 01:00:13,840 --> 01:00:16,440 Speaker 9: We knew that everybody have one, So we told a 1199 01:00:16,560 --> 01:00:19,920 Speaker 9: story that some day when you're board, would designed the 1200 01:00:20,000 --> 01:00:23,200 Speaker 9: phone number if you didn't answer the phone for them. 1201 01:00:24,680 --> 01:00:27,200 Speaker 9: We're pretty close to that. To return to the people, 1202 01:00:27,240 --> 01:00:35,080 Speaker 9: I don't have so phones, but uh we could never 1203 01:00:35,240 --> 01:00:39,480 Speaker 9: have to addicted that then would be the Internet, digital cameras, 1204 01:00:40,080 --> 01:00:43,320 Speaker 9: a non scaling a greater circuit because none of those 1205 01:00:43,400 --> 01:00:50,000 Speaker 9: existed AD activities quite know. The marble at the tax 1206 01:00:50,160 --> 01:00:54,000 Speaker 9: you had a super computer you quote. I also marble 1207 01:00:54,040 --> 01:00:57,560 Speaker 9: at the fact we don't recognize that in the US 1208 01:01:00,120 --> 01:01:05,479 Speaker 9: important things to the country. In Africa. It has helped 1209 01:01:05,560 --> 01:01:08,840 Speaker 9: take a billion people on the poverty in the last 1210 01:01:09,200 --> 01:01:15,320 Speaker 9: five years. That's greatly important. So it's the only thing 1211 01:01:15,400 --> 01:01:19,800 Speaker 9: I have to believe. If they were always storied, it's revolution. 1212 01:01:21,600 --> 01:01:25,800 Speaker 9: We are about to rember, don't care. We're going to 1213 01:01:25,880 --> 01:01:30,680 Speaker 9: release their education, the whole concept of collaboration. It's going 1214 01:01:30,760 --> 01:01:33,360 Speaker 9: to make a smaller efficient. It's so that we will 1215 01:01:33,760 --> 01:01:38,680 Speaker 9: ultimately eliminate poverty. So we're just at the beginning gift. 1216 01:01:39,360 --> 01:01:39,720 Speaker 9: I hope. 1217 01:01:39,800 --> 01:01:42,080 Speaker 2: So I hope that's Uh, that's something that happens. 1218 01:01:42,800 --> 01:01:46,280 Speaker 1: It's funny because you you kind of expected when these 1219 01:01:46,320 --> 01:01:48,680 Speaker 1: phones were first coming out that they're going to be well, 1220 01:01:48,680 --> 01:01:50,520 Speaker 1: you knew they were going to be expensive, and obviously 1221 01:01:50,640 --> 01:01:52,920 Speaker 1: the first people to get them would be wealthier folks. 1222 01:01:53,840 --> 01:01:56,000 Speaker 1: But you said the biggest users. According to this Wall 1223 01:01:56,000 --> 01:01:59,600 Speaker 1: Street Journal article which was in last week's journal, from 1224 01:01:59,600 --> 01:02:02,600 Speaker 1: the shoot phone to the smartphone, Uh, the first folks 1225 01:02:02,640 --> 01:02:05,640 Speaker 1: to buy these were real estate people because you know 1226 01:02:05,760 --> 01:02:08,560 Speaker 1: they could make money off of these phones. But now 1227 01:02:08,840 --> 01:02:12,479 Speaker 1: obviously everyone pretty much has one here in the US. 1228 01:02:13,120 --> 01:02:15,880 Speaker 1: And addiction, cell phone addiction. I mean you go to 1229 01:02:15,960 --> 01:02:18,040 Speaker 1: a Starbucks, people are waiting in line. They're no longer 1230 01:02:18,120 --> 01:02:20,320 Speaker 1: talking to each other, they are looking at their phone. 1231 01:02:20,840 --> 01:02:23,480 Speaker 1: What do you make of things like TikTok and all 1232 01:02:23,560 --> 01:02:26,320 Speaker 1: of the addiction issues around cell phones. 1233 01:02:28,000 --> 01:02:30,479 Speaker 9: Well, this is not a new phenomen of this. Every 1234 01:02:30,560 --> 01:02:36,320 Speaker 9: time you have a new technology, there's some baggage. Let's 1235 01:02:36,400 --> 01:02:40,000 Speaker 9: have the personal way that addicted you're also to the 1236 01:02:40,120 --> 01:02:44,919 Speaker 9: I think community will be too young because by age, 1237 01:02:45,640 --> 01:02:51,080 Speaker 9: everybody is too young. But uh, you think about it. 1238 01:02:52,000 --> 01:02:56,840 Speaker 9: Maybe something months ago people were complaining about people of 1239 01:02:56,880 --> 01:03:01,720 Speaker 9: the teg addicted to television. Seriously, Yeah, people have a 1240 01:03:01,760 --> 01:03:10,280 Speaker 9: lot of people. Somehow society of the danage get over that. 1241 01:03:11,480 --> 01:03:13,440 Speaker 9: I think they're gonna get over the cell phone addiction 1242 01:03:13,560 --> 01:03:18,320 Speaker 9: as well. It's a problem, but uh, people are smart. 1243 01:03:18,400 --> 01:03:21,840 Speaker 9: You have to have comedy. People will work it out, 1244 01:03:22,720 --> 01:03:24,800 Speaker 9: and that's a benefits of cell phone. 1245 01:03:26,080 --> 01:03:30,560 Speaker 1: Somebody definitely, Well they've certainly they've certainly made our lives 1246 01:03:30,680 --> 01:03:32,880 Speaker 1: more efficient, They've made a more interesting. 1247 01:03:33,480 --> 01:03:33,600 Speaker 16: Uh. 1248 01:03:33,800 --> 01:03:36,640 Speaker 1: People make a living off of their smartphones in so 1249 01:03:36,760 --> 01:03:40,040 Speaker 1: many different ways. Uh, Marty Cooper, author of Cutting the 1250 01:03:40,160 --> 01:03:43,920 Speaker 1: Cord The Cell Phone has Transformed Humanity. Thanks so much 1251 01:03:43,960 --> 01:03:45,880 Speaker 1: for joining me today. I really appreciate Do you still 1252 01:03:46,000 --> 01:03:47,080 Speaker 1: do you still carry a phone? 1253 01:03:47,200 --> 01:03:47,960 Speaker 2: At this point. 1254 01:03:49,280 --> 01:03:56,280 Speaker 9: You're kidding, of course, committing this ton of the people 1255 01:03:56,320 --> 01:03:59,320 Speaker 9: of cell Phones Center, But I actually have the two 1256 01:03:59,360 --> 01:04:02,360 Speaker 9: cell phones that I and when I travel over to 1257 01:04:02,520 --> 01:04:06,320 Speaker 9: eight in one in the US, most things I'd like 1258 01:04:06,360 --> 01:04:10,000 Speaker 9: to play every different telephone in it. If you're a 1259 01:04:10,080 --> 01:04:12,640 Speaker 9: manufacturer and you come up with a new teacher that 1260 01:04:12,760 --> 01:04:15,680 Speaker 9: you always know, you could show one to Marty Cooper. 1261 01:04:15,960 --> 01:04:16,400 Speaker 9: I love it. 1262 01:04:16,960 --> 01:04:18,880 Speaker 2: Marty Cooper, thanks so much for joining me today. I 1263 01:04:19,040 --> 01:04:20,439 Speaker 2: really appreciate it. Again. 1264 01:04:20,560 --> 01:04:23,560 Speaker 1: The book is Cutting the Cord the Cell Phone has 1265 01:04:23,760 --> 01:04:27,160 Speaker 1: Transformed Humanity, available on Amazon. 1266 01:04:28,680 --> 01:04:30,480 Speaker 2: I mean, just so much history there. 1267 01:04:31,400 --> 01:04:33,840 Speaker 1: I mean, I think of my short history of owning 1268 01:04:34,240 --> 01:04:37,480 Speaker 1: cell phones and smartphones and to be there making one 1269 01:04:37,480 --> 01:04:40,720 Speaker 1: of the first public calls. Triple eight rich one on 1270 01:04:40,800 --> 01:04:43,680 Speaker 1: one eight eight eight seven four to two four one 1271 01:04:44,000 --> 01:04:46,520 Speaker 1: zero one. Give me a call on a cell phone 1272 01:04:46,600 --> 01:04:49,320 Speaker 1: or a landline. You're listening to rich on Tech. 1273 01:04:52,760 --> 01:04:54,680 Speaker 2: Welcome back to rich on Tech. 1274 01:04:54,800 --> 01:04:57,480 Speaker 1: My name is rich DeMuro, hanging out with you talking 1275 01:04:57,640 --> 01:05:03,160 Speaker 1: technology and thanks to the magic of technology keeping an 1276 01:05:03,200 --> 01:05:06,000 Speaker 1: eye on my son's Little League game. How amazing is 1277 01:05:06,080 --> 01:05:09,240 Speaker 1: this the fact that we live in a world and 1278 01:05:09,360 --> 01:05:13,840 Speaker 1: a time where Little League games are streamed online. And 1279 01:05:13,920 --> 01:05:16,480 Speaker 1: when they told me this, I sat there and I said, 1280 01:05:16,520 --> 01:05:20,960 Speaker 1: who needs that? I mean, okay, grandparents, people watching from 1281 01:05:21,000 --> 01:05:24,920 Speaker 1: out of state, whatever. But now I see why it's 1282 01:05:25,080 --> 01:05:28,040 Speaker 1: right here in front of me and it's live. That's 1283 01:05:28,080 --> 01:05:31,320 Speaker 1: pretty incredible. So got to love this stuff, you really do. 1284 01:05:31,840 --> 01:05:34,240 Speaker 1: Phone lines are open at triple eight Rich one O 1285 01:05:34,240 --> 01:05:37,560 Speaker 1: one eight eight eight seven four to two four. 1286 01:05:37,680 --> 01:05:41,840 Speaker 2: One zero one. Glenn is in Las Vegas. Glenn, You're 1287 01:05:41,880 --> 01:05:43,800 Speaker 2: on with Rich Hi. 1288 01:05:44,000 --> 01:05:44,240 Speaker 5: Rich. 1289 01:05:44,960 --> 01:05:48,320 Speaker 14: When my wife is on the phone call in their 1290 01:05:48,400 --> 01:05:49,439 Speaker 14: home office. 1291 01:05:49,520 --> 01:05:53,120 Speaker 7: If I start up or car, it grabs the cell 1292 01:05:54,000 --> 01:05:57,760 Speaker 7: signal and it won't let go until I'm like, you know, 1293 01:05:58,680 --> 01:06:03,360 Speaker 7: out of range. Yeah, it's a way to decrease the 1294 01:06:03,800 --> 01:06:07,560 Speaker 7: range from thirty feet to ten feet, or to be 1295 01:06:07,640 --> 01:06:11,200 Speaker 7: able to signal blocker or something not that I know of. 1296 01:06:11,480 --> 01:06:14,800 Speaker 1: This is a problem in my house as well. It's 1297 01:06:14,960 --> 01:06:20,000 Speaker 1: really a problem because when my wife starts, well, when 1298 01:06:20,040 --> 01:06:23,080 Speaker 1: she starts my car and she's in it, somehow it's 1299 01:06:23,160 --> 01:06:26,440 Speaker 1: grabbing my phone inside and so all the settings are 1300 01:06:26,480 --> 01:06:29,360 Speaker 1: for me and not her, and so this is a 1301 01:06:29,480 --> 01:06:33,280 Speaker 1: pain and I really don't have an answer. I think 1302 01:06:34,080 --> 01:06:37,640 Speaker 1: now there are some provisions inside the car to have 1303 01:06:37,720 --> 01:06:41,400 Speaker 1: what's called a priority device. In certain cars, you may 1304 01:06:41,440 --> 01:06:43,360 Speaker 1: be able to look for that in the Bluetooth settings, 1305 01:06:43,400 --> 01:06:47,560 Speaker 1: but that doesn't really help because it doesn't go by proximity. 1306 01:06:47,600 --> 01:06:49,680 Speaker 1: It just goes by If it sees both devices at 1307 01:06:49,680 --> 01:06:53,240 Speaker 1: the same time, it'll choose the one that it says 1308 01:06:53,360 --> 01:06:53,960 Speaker 1: is priority. 1309 01:06:54,800 --> 01:06:56,640 Speaker 2: But I don't really have an answer for you. 1310 01:06:56,800 --> 01:06:58,720 Speaker 1: And this is kind of a going to be a 1311 01:06:58,720 --> 01:07:00,760 Speaker 1: bigger and bigger issue, I think for a lot of 1312 01:07:00,800 --> 01:07:02,960 Speaker 1: people because of these phones. 1313 01:07:03,080 --> 01:07:05,080 Speaker 2: So how do you get around it? 1314 01:07:05,160 --> 01:07:05,280 Speaker 9: Now? 1315 01:07:05,360 --> 01:07:05,760 Speaker 1: What do you do? 1316 01:07:07,600 --> 01:07:09,720 Speaker 7: We haven't figured it out, and that's why I'm calling you. 1317 01:07:10,120 --> 01:07:13,800 Speaker 7: I was hoping that somebody would have a Bluetooth signal 1318 01:07:13,840 --> 01:07:17,520 Speaker 7: blocker that wouldn't screw up Wi Fi signals, but apparently 1319 01:07:17,920 --> 01:07:21,160 Speaker 7: they're similar enough that you screw up when you screwed 1320 01:07:21,240 --> 01:07:21,680 Speaker 7: up everything. 1321 01:07:22,000 --> 01:07:23,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't think that that and that kind of 1322 01:07:24,000 --> 01:07:27,880 Speaker 1: thing would. It'd be kind of tricky to implement too, 1323 01:07:28,040 --> 01:07:30,280 Speaker 1: because it's just so like where do you put it 1324 01:07:30,400 --> 01:07:32,320 Speaker 1: and how does that work? And you know, what's the 1325 01:07:32,400 --> 01:07:35,320 Speaker 1: provisions on it? But Glenn, I don't really have a 1326 01:07:35,360 --> 01:07:37,880 Speaker 1: good answer. Now, maybe by putting this on the show, 1327 01:07:39,240 --> 01:07:41,200 Speaker 1: someone will email in and say, here's what I do. 1328 01:07:41,520 --> 01:07:44,440 Speaker 2: So I'll give my email address. It's hello at Rich 1329 01:07:44,560 --> 01:07:45,479 Speaker 2: on tech dot TV. 1330 01:07:45,760 --> 01:07:49,479 Speaker 1: If you've figured out a way to keep your phone 1331 01:07:49,560 --> 01:07:52,800 Speaker 1: from connecting to your spouse's car, your partner's car, or 1332 01:07:53,360 --> 01:07:56,600 Speaker 1: you know whatever, let us know, because it is a 1333 01:07:57,040 --> 01:07:59,120 Speaker 1: Every time I get into my car, I don't know 1334 01:07:59,160 --> 01:08:01,240 Speaker 1: why it chooses the wrong phone, Like it's just the 1335 01:08:01,400 --> 01:08:03,760 Speaker 1: it plays like the opposite game, Like if I'm getting 1336 01:08:03,800 --> 01:08:05,960 Speaker 1: in it's it's like, oh, let me pick Rich's wife's 1337 01:08:06,000 --> 01:08:08,600 Speaker 1: car or a wife's phone in the house. And also 1338 01:08:09,000 --> 01:08:11,120 Speaker 1: the phone is in the house, it's so far away, 1339 01:08:11,760 --> 01:08:14,160 Speaker 1: like why is it choosing that over the phone that's 1340 01:08:14,200 --> 01:08:17,280 Speaker 1: right next to it. So maybe the next level, Glenn, 1341 01:08:17,320 --> 01:08:20,880 Speaker 1: will be a proximity sensor in these cars to say, hey, 1342 01:08:20,960 --> 01:08:24,120 Speaker 1: we're measuring this bluetooth phone to be a foot away. Well, 1343 01:08:24,160 --> 01:08:26,240 Speaker 1: that one's thirty feet let's let's connect to the one 1344 01:08:26,280 --> 01:08:28,599 Speaker 1: that's a foot away. That would make more sense to me, right. 1345 01:08:29,520 --> 01:08:32,439 Speaker 7: Well, yeah, although if if I'm not on my phone, 1346 01:08:32,479 --> 01:08:35,599 Speaker 7: it'll still grab then the only the only signal that's 1347 01:08:35,640 --> 01:08:36,120 Speaker 7: coming through. 1348 01:08:36,240 --> 01:08:40,160 Speaker 2: I guess, yeah, I mean the only. Yeah. 1349 01:08:40,360 --> 01:08:41,920 Speaker 1: I think you got to warn your wife when you 1350 01:08:42,240 --> 01:08:44,160 Speaker 1: go to start the car and say, hey, turn off 1351 01:08:44,160 --> 01:08:45,240 Speaker 1: the Bluetooth on your phone. 1352 01:08:45,360 --> 01:08:47,840 Speaker 2: I'm going to start the car. But that doesn't sound 1353 01:08:47,880 --> 01:08:48,960 Speaker 2: like a very good solution to me. 1354 01:08:50,240 --> 01:08:52,400 Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean turning it off and back on again 1355 01:08:52,640 --> 01:08:57,160 Speaker 7: is not a two second affair. No, especially when she's 1356 01:08:57,200 --> 01:08:58,400 Speaker 7: in the middle of a phone call. 1357 01:08:58,680 --> 01:09:01,719 Speaker 1: No, that's definitely a pain. Well, if I find anything, 1358 01:09:01,800 --> 01:09:03,320 Speaker 1: I will mention it on the show. But that's a 1359 01:09:03,360 --> 01:09:05,640 Speaker 1: great question and hopefully we get some answers. The other 1360 01:09:05,720 --> 01:09:10,040 Speaker 1: problem I have is, for some reason, the cellular signal 1361 01:09:10,320 --> 01:09:12,599 Speaker 1: right in front of my house. It's got the Wi 1362 01:09:12,720 --> 01:09:16,519 Speaker 1: Fi and the cellular compete, and so I can't get 1363 01:09:16,600 --> 01:09:19,080 Speaker 1: anything to happen on my car until I drive down 1364 01:09:19,120 --> 01:09:22,160 Speaker 1: the street and it finally unlocks from my Wi Fi 1365 01:09:22,320 --> 01:09:24,400 Speaker 1: signal and gets on the cellular signal. I mean, it's 1366 01:09:24,439 --> 01:09:26,960 Speaker 1: a whole big thing with these cars. I'm telling you, 1367 01:09:27,320 --> 01:09:31,680 Speaker 1: we love this stuff, but yeah, it's tricky sometimes. All right, 1368 01:09:32,320 --> 01:09:36,439 Speaker 1: let's go to Nancy and Santa Monica. Nancy, you're on 1369 01:09:36,560 --> 01:09:36,920 Speaker 1: with Rich. 1370 01:09:38,280 --> 01:09:38,920 Speaker 3: Well, Hi, Rich. 1371 01:09:39,240 --> 01:09:45,000 Speaker 16: My question is about Wi Fi for your home. We 1372 01:09:45,200 --> 01:09:51,920 Speaker 16: have a three node links system and it's performing pretty well. 1373 01:09:52,120 --> 01:09:55,880 Speaker 16: But when we went through some technical issues a short 1374 01:09:55,960 --> 01:09:59,400 Speaker 16: time back, it was suggested to me that we get 1375 01:09:59,800 --> 01:10:04,280 Speaker 16: an another node which would become the main node and 1376 01:10:04,520 --> 01:10:06,800 Speaker 16: with links as they call it, the parent you know, 1377 01:10:07,040 --> 01:10:11,880 Speaker 16: versus the other nodes or the child nodes, Except that 1378 01:10:12,520 --> 01:10:15,840 Speaker 16: as I look at the parent node that they're suggesting, 1379 01:10:16,280 --> 01:10:19,920 Speaker 16: it indicates that it has a range of twenty seven 1380 01:10:20,720 --> 01:10:24,080 Speaker 16: one hundred square feet. Yeah, they say that, but the 1381 01:10:24,160 --> 01:10:27,360 Speaker 16: one I have says it will do six thousand square 1382 01:10:27,439 --> 01:10:30,720 Speaker 16: feet and it is doing the coverage that we need. 1383 01:10:31,920 --> 01:10:35,400 Speaker 16: I guess I'm wondering if I change out to this 1384 01:10:35,920 --> 01:10:40,880 Speaker 16: new node, which supposedly has better security and performance, but 1385 01:10:41,000 --> 01:10:44,559 Speaker 16: it's only twenty seven hundred in terms of its range, 1386 01:10:45,479 --> 01:10:49,120 Speaker 16: is it going to override the sixty six hundred that 1387 01:10:50,120 --> 01:10:53,280 Speaker 16: or the six thousand that I already have, or will 1388 01:10:53,439 --> 01:10:54,280 Speaker 16: will that stay? 1389 01:10:54,640 --> 01:10:54,840 Speaker 9: Well? 1390 01:10:54,880 --> 01:10:56,960 Speaker 2: Okay, so first off, what system do you have? You 1391 01:10:57,040 --> 01:10:57,679 Speaker 2: have a link SYS. 1392 01:10:57,760 --> 01:11:02,200 Speaker 16: What's it's I'm not sure how you say that? Velop 1393 01:11:02,439 --> 01:11:05,840 Speaker 16: the LP and so AC sixty six. 1394 01:11:05,840 --> 01:11:08,000 Speaker 2: Hundred and so why do you need the new one? 1395 01:11:08,080 --> 01:11:09,160 Speaker 2: What's what's not working? 1396 01:11:09,720 --> 01:11:09,920 Speaker 7: Well? 1397 01:11:10,800 --> 01:11:17,600 Speaker 16: It they think that I that I need more security, 1398 01:11:18,000 --> 01:11:20,880 Speaker 16: and I guess I'm not sure that that's really true. 1399 01:11:21,479 --> 01:11:24,559 Speaker 16: I mean, I'm not having anyone you know who. 1400 01:11:24,479 --> 01:11:28,680 Speaker 1: Thinks that you need more security links this? I mean, 1401 01:11:28,720 --> 01:11:30,200 Speaker 1: are they do they call you to tell you this? 1402 01:11:30,560 --> 01:11:31,040 Speaker 9: How do you know? 1403 01:11:31,720 --> 01:11:31,920 Speaker 5: Well? 1404 01:11:32,120 --> 01:11:34,960 Speaker 16: It was it was through the troubleshooting that we did 1405 01:11:35,080 --> 01:11:38,559 Speaker 16: with a problem that we had a couple months back 1406 01:11:39,280 --> 01:11:43,280 Speaker 16: working well, the system just like crashed. 1407 01:11:44,160 --> 01:11:46,880 Speaker 2: It crashed, yeah, but but we. 1408 01:11:46,960 --> 01:11:48,880 Speaker 16: Were able to bring it all back. But you have 1409 01:11:49,000 --> 01:11:53,679 Speaker 16: to go through this process of bringing up the parent 1410 01:11:53,840 --> 01:11:56,040 Speaker 16: node and then you have to bring all the child 1411 01:11:56,200 --> 01:11:59,200 Speaker 16: nodes next to the parent and okay, and you know, 1412 01:11:59,320 --> 01:12:01,599 Speaker 16: go through the of getting them all. 1413 01:12:01,920 --> 01:12:05,000 Speaker 1: Okay, So the coverage, the coverage that they're talking about 1414 01:12:05,320 --> 01:12:09,320 Speaker 1: is six thousand square feet combined for this entire system. 1415 01:12:09,360 --> 01:12:11,920 Speaker 2: I don't think it's one node that's giving you six thousand. 1416 01:12:12,080 --> 01:12:13,679 Speaker 2: So that's number one, okay, Okay. 1417 01:12:13,960 --> 01:12:17,879 Speaker 1: Number two? Is this system old? Is it not supported anymore? 1418 01:12:18,200 --> 01:12:21,320 Speaker 1: It looks like it was first available in twenty nineteen, 1419 01:12:21,960 --> 01:12:23,680 Speaker 1: So are they is this kind of like out of 1420 01:12:23,800 --> 01:12:25,639 Speaker 1: like they're not really supporting it much anymore? 1421 01:12:25,720 --> 01:12:27,880 Speaker 16: Is that what I'm well, we were able to get 1422 01:12:27,960 --> 01:12:31,280 Speaker 16: support for it in terms of, you know, help in 1423 01:12:32,880 --> 01:12:35,080 Speaker 16: restarting it, and they're not telling us that we have 1424 01:12:35,200 --> 01:12:37,559 Speaker 16: to throw away the nose that are part. 1425 01:12:37,439 --> 01:12:38,439 Speaker 8: Of what this is. 1426 01:12:39,080 --> 01:12:42,720 Speaker 16: It's just that they seem to think that, you know, 1427 01:12:42,840 --> 01:12:49,400 Speaker 16: we'd have better security and better performance, okay with adding 1428 01:12:49,880 --> 01:12:51,280 Speaker 16: this extra Okay. 1429 01:12:51,880 --> 01:12:53,080 Speaker 2: So here's my thoughts on this. 1430 01:12:53,200 --> 01:12:55,040 Speaker 1: Number One, if things are working the way you need 1431 01:12:55,080 --> 01:12:57,559 Speaker 1: them to and your software is up to date, then 1432 01:12:57,720 --> 01:12:59,519 Speaker 1: I think you're fine. I don't think you need to 1433 01:12:59,600 --> 01:13:02,160 Speaker 1: change any thing. I think what they're talking about is 1434 01:13:02,280 --> 01:13:06,439 Speaker 1: the nodes themselves are six thousand across, the three of them, 1435 01:13:07,040 --> 01:13:09,240 Speaker 1: and so if you're getting this new node and you're 1436 01:13:09,240 --> 01:13:11,840 Speaker 1: going to connect these two access points to it that 1437 01:13:11,920 --> 01:13:14,080 Speaker 1: you already have or three, you can you know, maybe 1438 01:13:14,200 --> 01:13:17,240 Speaker 1: use all three of them, right, You would just expand 1439 01:13:17,320 --> 01:13:19,200 Speaker 1: your coverage that way. So if they work with the 1440 01:13:19,280 --> 01:13:21,120 Speaker 1: new system and you feel like you want to get 1441 01:13:21,200 --> 01:13:24,799 Speaker 1: that and you want to improve security and improve coverage 1442 01:13:24,840 --> 01:13:27,040 Speaker 1: and all that good stuff, and it's a newer system, 1443 01:13:27,120 --> 01:13:29,400 Speaker 1: than go with it. Otherwise, if what you have is 1444 01:13:29,479 --> 01:13:31,280 Speaker 1: working and your software is up to date, I think 1445 01:13:31,320 --> 01:13:31,920 Speaker 1: you're just fine. 1446 01:13:32,160 --> 01:13:35,439 Speaker 2: So that would be my advice. Nancy, thanks so much 1447 01:13:35,479 --> 01:13:36,160 Speaker 2: for give me a call. 1448 01:13:36,840 --> 01:13:39,120 Speaker 1: Triple eight rich one on one eight eight eight seven 1449 01:13:39,240 --> 01:13:41,680 Speaker 1: four to two, four to one zero one. Coming up, 1450 01:13:42,240 --> 01:13:44,559 Speaker 1: we'll talk about tap to pay and why some customers 1451 01:13:44,600 --> 01:13:47,800 Speaker 1: are saying their credit cards are being charged even through 1452 01:13:47,840 --> 01:13:48,559 Speaker 1: their bags. 1453 01:13:48,720 --> 01:13:50,479 Speaker 2: You're listening to rich on Tech. 1454 01:13:51,760 --> 01:13:55,160 Speaker 1: Welcome back to rich On Tech. Phone lines are open 1455 01:13:55,320 --> 01:13:58,120 Speaker 1: at eight eight eight rich one O one eight eight 1456 01:13:58,240 --> 01:14:02,439 Speaker 1: eight seven four to two for one zero one. Don 1457 01:14:02,560 --> 01:14:04,479 Speaker 1: is in my home state of New Jersey. 1458 01:14:05,400 --> 01:14:07,960 Speaker 2: Don, you're on with rich Bitch. 1459 01:14:08,000 --> 01:14:08,679 Speaker 14: Hollr you Bud. 1460 01:14:08,920 --> 01:14:09,679 Speaker 2: I'm doing great. 1461 01:14:11,760 --> 01:14:14,840 Speaker 14: I'm back in my backyard in Mammouth County, New Jersey, 1462 01:14:15,200 --> 01:14:18,720 Speaker 14: taking out grass in my pavers nice to fix the 1463 01:14:19,439 --> 01:14:23,639 Speaker 14: water the water problem with one of my sprinkler heads. 1464 01:14:24,080 --> 01:14:26,479 Speaker 14: And I'm listening and I have the answer for the 1465 01:14:26,560 --> 01:14:30,280 Speaker 14: gentleman that just called. I play tennis in the morning, 1466 01:14:30,360 --> 01:14:35,120 Speaker 14: early birds they call it. And I'll use next DNS 1467 01:14:35,520 --> 01:14:38,320 Speaker 14: to take out some ads while I'm looking at threads 1468 01:14:38,360 --> 01:14:41,479 Speaker 14: and different things, so it's less ads to worry about, Okay, 1469 01:14:42,280 --> 01:14:46,680 Speaker 14: if I forget to turn off next dnx DNS, or 1470 01:14:46,880 --> 01:14:50,000 Speaker 14: you could use Google one if those that have a 1471 01:14:50,600 --> 01:14:54,000 Speaker 14: VPN any VPN that's left on will kill the connection. 1472 01:14:55,479 --> 01:14:57,439 Speaker 14: So if you put your phone on in your house 1473 01:14:57,720 --> 01:14:59,760 Speaker 14: with a VPN on it, it won't connect to your 1474 01:14:59,760 --> 01:15:02,800 Speaker 14: wife car or to your car while your wife using it. 1475 01:15:03,600 --> 01:15:04,639 Speaker 14: It blocks a signal. 1476 01:15:04,960 --> 01:15:08,679 Speaker 2: Now that would be for Wi Fi, but not necessarily Bluetooth. 1477 01:15:08,800 --> 01:15:14,640 Speaker 14: Right, definitely Wi Fi. But one of the problems that 1478 01:15:14,760 --> 01:15:19,679 Speaker 14: I get is the initial connection with Android auto starts 1479 01:15:19,720 --> 01:15:23,400 Speaker 14: with Bluetooth, I believe, and then then then connects to 1480 01:15:23,479 --> 01:15:26,559 Speaker 14: the VP or to the Wi Fi if. 1481 01:15:26,479 --> 01:15:29,200 Speaker 13: You're if you're doing wireless, you mean maybe yeah, and 1482 01:15:29,240 --> 01:15:34,800 Speaker 13: I do a wireless connection with gongle, Yeah, yeah, yeah, 1483 01:15:34,840 --> 01:15:36,800 Speaker 13: I mean I could see that's a good solution for 1484 01:15:36,880 --> 01:15:38,760 Speaker 13: the Wi Fi portion of it. 1485 01:15:39,000 --> 01:15:41,800 Speaker 1: But the Bluetooth, I still think there's there's still an 1486 01:15:41,920 --> 01:15:46,400 Speaker 1: unknown uh an unknown there, so we still got to 1487 01:15:46,439 --> 01:15:47,000 Speaker 1: figure that out. 1488 01:15:47,439 --> 01:15:51,880 Speaker 14: But well, you could do a routine in one of 1489 01:15:53,040 --> 01:15:55,760 Speaker 14: I have routines on my Samsung phone because I have 1490 01:15:55,840 --> 01:15:59,439 Speaker 14: a Samsung Galaxy S twenty two Ultra. So if you 1491 01:15:59,520 --> 01:16:03,080 Speaker 14: did it when you connected to your car, because your 1492 01:16:03,160 --> 01:16:06,680 Speaker 14: car is one of your WiFi favorites, right, and then 1493 01:16:06,720 --> 01:16:08,959 Speaker 14: you could do a routine if it if it connects 1494 01:16:09,080 --> 01:16:12,360 Speaker 14: and but then again your inconvenience in yourself when you 1495 01:16:12,479 --> 01:16:13,240 Speaker 14: connect it like that. 1496 01:16:14,120 --> 01:16:17,639 Speaker 1: Yeah, those routines are handy though. Those Uh I used 1497 01:16:17,680 --> 01:16:19,599 Speaker 1: to I used to use an app called Tasker. 1498 01:16:19,680 --> 01:16:20,360 Speaker 2: Have you ever heard of that? 1499 01:16:20,560 --> 01:16:23,960 Speaker 14: Oh yeah, yeah, a little advanced. So yeah, I tried 1500 01:16:24,000 --> 01:16:25,320 Speaker 14: it for a few things. 1501 01:16:25,240 --> 01:16:25,959 Speaker 2: Way advanced. 1502 01:16:26,160 --> 01:16:28,840 Speaker 1: So but I think I think Samsung did a really 1503 01:16:28,880 --> 01:16:33,120 Speaker 1: good job of making it very simple with the routines 1504 01:16:33,200 --> 01:16:38,240 Speaker 1: in Bixby, and then iPhone has something similar, like they 1505 01:16:38,320 --> 01:16:41,839 Speaker 1: call them shortcuts, but they're not really the same because 1506 01:16:42,520 --> 01:16:43,599 Speaker 1: I guess it's similar. 1507 01:16:43,840 --> 01:16:46,400 Speaker 2: It'll kind of run like a thing that you want 1508 01:16:46,439 --> 01:16:46,760 Speaker 2: it to do. 1509 01:16:47,600 --> 01:16:50,320 Speaker 1: It never really took off because I feel like the 1510 01:16:50,400 --> 01:16:53,479 Speaker 1: iPhone user is not as you know, they're not as 1511 01:16:53,600 --> 01:16:57,400 Speaker 1: into that they're the mainstream iPhone user, whereas Android users 1512 01:16:57,439 --> 01:17:00,120 Speaker 1: in the past. You know, they chose Android first and 1513 01:17:00,200 --> 01:17:01,880 Speaker 1: reason the fact that you can kind of tinker a 1514 01:17:01,920 --> 01:17:02,479 Speaker 1: little bit more. 1515 01:17:02,680 --> 01:17:05,200 Speaker 14: You know, well, you can also mess with if this 1516 01:17:05,400 --> 01:17:09,920 Speaker 14: then that and make it make a recipe an experiment 1517 01:17:10,000 --> 01:17:11,800 Speaker 14: with that. So there's a couple of ways that he 1518 01:17:11,880 --> 01:17:13,439 Speaker 14: could try to mess with that. 1519 01:17:14,240 --> 01:17:17,439 Speaker 2: Yeah, now you're getting real. That's that's yeah, I mean. 1520 01:17:17,479 --> 01:17:20,000 Speaker 14: There's well, they're fun it's more or less like, if 1521 01:17:20,160 --> 01:17:25,519 Speaker 14: this happens, if this Bluetooth connected car connects at a 1522 01:17:25,600 --> 01:17:29,720 Speaker 14: certain time, maybe the wife leaves between six am and 1523 01:17:29,840 --> 01:17:33,080 Speaker 14: eight am, then deny connection from that time, and then 1524 01:17:33,120 --> 01:17:36,200 Speaker 14: from eight oh one on allow the connection to happen. 1525 01:17:36,280 --> 01:17:38,400 Speaker 14: So you can make it a time based trigger. 1526 01:17:38,640 --> 01:17:41,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, that might work. I'm trying to think it. 1527 01:17:41,439 --> 01:17:43,560 Speaker 14: He always goes to work at a certain time, that 1528 01:17:43,760 --> 01:17:44,240 Speaker 14: might work. 1529 01:17:44,640 --> 01:17:47,160 Speaker 1: Sounds like she was working from home and he was 1530 01:17:47,280 --> 01:17:51,200 Speaker 1: leaving and then that was our Yeah. I don't Yeah, well, 1531 01:17:51,479 --> 01:17:54,000 Speaker 1: it sounds like there's definitely uh, there might be some 1532 01:17:54,240 --> 01:17:56,200 Speaker 1: options out there, but I think with the Bluetooth it 1533 01:17:56,280 --> 01:17:58,200 Speaker 1: does become a little tricky. I wish I wish there 1534 01:17:58,240 --> 01:18:01,000 Speaker 1: was a way for the car to sort of identify 1535 01:18:01,760 --> 01:18:04,400 Speaker 1: or the card to have more options about which one 1536 01:18:04,479 --> 01:18:07,679 Speaker 1: it connected to when, because that would that would really 1537 01:18:07,760 --> 01:18:08,960 Speaker 1: solve a lot of these problems. 1538 01:18:09,479 --> 01:18:12,080 Speaker 2: What's the what's the weather like in Jersey right. 1539 01:18:12,040 --> 01:18:15,800 Speaker 14: Now from me and Mammoth County. It's a little overcast, 1540 01:18:16,160 --> 01:18:18,840 Speaker 14: supposed to rain later And are you listening. 1541 01:18:18,600 --> 01:18:20,519 Speaker 2: On a radio station out there or is it through 1542 01:18:20,680 --> 01:18:21,360 Speaker 2: the iHeart app? 1543 01:18:21,680 --> 01:18:25,160 Speaker 14: This is this is Eyewitness weather. This is Don I'm 1544 01:18:25,160 --> 01:18:27,680 Speaker 14: looking up in this sky outside the awning over the 1545 01:18:27,800 --> 01:18:31,479 Speaker 14: patio back here with half without grass, half with grass. 1546 01:18:31,840 --> 01:18:33,479 Speaker 2: Now I meant, how are you listening to the show? 1547 01:18:33,800 --> 01:18:35,800 Speaker 2: Is it streaming or through through? 1548 01:18:35,840 --> 01:18:37,559 Speaker 14: iHeartRadio headset? 1549 01:18:37,880 --> 01:18:38,240 Speaker 2: Awesome? 1550 01:18:38,760 --> 01:18:39,160 Speaker 7: I have a. 1551 01:18:40,640 --> 01:18:47,320 Speaker 14: Bluetooth headset. One quick question I was when you were 1552 01:18:47,400 --> 01:18:52,599 Speaker 14: talking about the the travel app? Was it a few 1553 01:18:52,840 --> 01:18:56,640 Speaker 14: a few shows ago where it was only on iPhone available? 1554 01:18:57,439 --> 01:18:59,519 Speaker 2: Yes? For the Traveling Flighty? 1555 01:19:00,320 --> 01:19:04,800 Speaker 14: Flighty would would an emulator? Would an would a would 1556 01:19:04,840 --> 01:19:08,360 Speaker 14: an iOS emulator work on an Android phone where you 1557 01:19:08,400 --> 01:19:11,720 Speaker 14: could fool the Android phone into being in an iPhone 1558 01:19:12,040 --> 01:19:15,400 Speaker 14: and use the app because it's only it's only iOS 1559 01:19:15,520 --> 01:19:15,840 Speaker 14: right now. 1560 01:19:16,240 --> 01:19:20,280 Speaker 2: I have not tried that, but I would imagine if 1561 01:19:20,360 --> 01:19:21,360 Speaker 2: you had that event. 1562 01:19:21,400 --> 01:19:24,880 Speaker 14: Might be a workaround if those that want to try 1563 01:19:24,960 --> 01:19:27,719 Speaker 14: it that don't have an iPhone, you aren't as cool 1564 01:19:27,720 --> 01:19:29,360 Speaker 14: as the people that use Android. 1565 01:19:29,640 --> 01:19:29,880 Speaker 9: Yeah. 1566 01:19:30,439 --> 01:19:32,120 Speaker 1: And I asked the developer, I said, you know, why 1567 01:19:32,120 --> 01:19:34,000 Speaker 1: aren't you coming out with Android? And he's just like, 1568 01:19:34,080 --> 01:19:36,200 Speaker 1: it's not a priority right now. But it is a 1569 01:19:36,280 --> 01:19:38,400 Speaker 1: great app. But honestly, I would I think there's a 1570 01:19:38,479 --> 01:19:41,880 Speaker 1: lot of I mean, look, Flighty is really nice. It's 1571 01:19:41,880 --> 01:19:43,439 Speaker 1: a great app. If you have iOS, but if you 1572 01:19:43,479 --> 01:19:46,599 Speaker 1: have Android, just use flight Aware. Also Google is pretty 1573 01:19:46,640 --> 01:19:48,960 Speaker 1: good about looking in your calendar and seeing when your 1574 01:19:49,000 --> 01:19:51,200 Speaker 1: next flight is. So I get a lot of notifications 1575 01:19:51,240 --> 01:19:54,840 Speaker 1: on my Android just from having Google, and that's another 1576 01:19:54,960 --> 01:19:57,599 Speaker 1: good way. And then a ward wall is my absolute favorite. 1577 01:19:57,640 --> 01:19:59,800 Speaker 1: That gives me a lot of notifications as well. I mean, 1578 01:19:59,800 --> 01:20:03,000 Speaker 1: there's trip it, there's so many. Don all right, Don, 1579 01:20:03,080 --> 01:20:04,160 Speaker 1: thanks so much for calling today. 1580 01:20:04,160 --> 01:20:06,559 Speaker 2: I appreciate it. Say hello to my family in Jersey. 1581 01:20:06,600 --> 01:20:08,960 Speaker 5: Okay, all right, thank you, take care. 1582 01:20:10,479 --> 01:20:14,880 Speaker 1: Let's see we've got an email question from Kathy. Kathy 1583 01:20:15,000 --> 01:20:17,679 Speaker 1: wrote in Hey, Rich, I love your show. I listen 1584 01:20:17,720 --> 01:20:23,440 Speaker 1: every Saturday. We're going to the island of Curasow in June. Reportedly, 1585 01:20:23,640 --> 01:20:26,479 Speaker 1: Spotify is available for streaming music while we are there. 1586 01:20:26,560 --> 01:20:28,240 Speaker 2: Do I need a VPN to do it? If so, 1587 01:20:28,400 --> 01:20:33,840 Speaker 2: which one do you recommend? Kathy? Kathy, I don't think 1588 01:20:33,880 --> 01:20:38,519 Speaker 2: you need a VPN to stream Spotify. And also it 1589 01:20:38,640 --> 01:20:40,400 Speaker 2: depends number one. 1590 01:20:40,520 --> 01:20:43,799 Speaker 1: When I travel, I don't, I don't stream, I download, 1591 01:20:44,400 --> 01:20:46,920 Speaker 1: So I if I were you, now you have to 1592 01:20:46,960 --> 01:20:50,040 Speaker 1: be a Spotify premium subscriber. You didn't say that in 1593 01:20:50,120 --> 01:20:52,479 Speaker 1: your email. If you're a Spotify premium or not. So 1594 01:20:53,120 --> 01:20:55,840 Speaker 1: if your premium, I would go ahead and just download 1595 01:20:56,080 --> 01:20:59,320 Speaker 1: the playlists that you want to listen to while you're 1596 01:20:59,360 --> 01:21:02,280 Speaker 1: on vacation, and I'm assuming that's going to be some 1597 01:21:02,400 --> 01:21:03,519 Speaker 1: Island style music. 1598 01:21:03,600 --> 01:21:04,360 Speaker 2: That's what I would do. 1599 01:21:06,040 --> 01:21:08,400 Speaker 1: If that's not you know, if that's not an option 1600 01:21:08,560 --> 01:21:12,599 Speaker 1: to you and you're streaming, I believe it would work 1601 01:21:12,720 --> 01:21:15,640 Speaker 1: without a VPN, but maybe for a limited amount of 1602 01:21:15,720 --> 01:21:19,400 Speaker 1: time because you're not, you know, a paying subscriber. But 1603 01:21:19,640 --> 01:21:22,200 Speaker 1: pretty much the way that these systems work. I remember 1604 01:21:22,320 --> 01:21:24,000 Speaker 1: back in the day, I had a problem when I 1605 01:21:24,040 --> 01:21:27,560 Speaker 1: went to Japan one time and I literally none of 1606 01:21:27,600 --> 01:21:30,320 Speaker 1: my music would work the entire week when I was there. 1607 01:21:30,400 --> 01:21:32,480 Speaker 2: I mean, this was like it was devastating. 1608 01:21:32,880 --> 01:21:35,519 Speaker 1: But things have gotten so kind of worldwide now that 1609 01:21:35,640 --> 01:21:37,720 Speaker 1: most things work pretty much everywhere you want to go. 1610 01:21:38,320 --> 01:21:40,799 Speaker 1: But the way I would do it is just download 1611 01:21:40,840 --> 01:21:43,720 Speaker 1: the music that you want before you go, and then 1612 01:21:44,160 --> 01:21:46,160 Speaker 1: that way you're able to listen to it while you're there. 1613 01:21:46,520 --> 01:21:48,280 Speaker 1: You can turn on your Wi Fi and see if 1614 01:21:48,280 --> 01:21:50,160 Speaker 1: you're able to stream once you're there, and that way 1615 01:21:50,160 --> 01:21:53,720 Speaker 1: you'll have your answer if you need a VPN. I 1616 01:21:53,760 --> 01:21:55,360 Speaker 1: would look into some of the things that you have. 1617 01:21:55,600 --> 01:21:58,559 Speaker 1: If you have Google one, they include a VPN. I've 1618 01:21:58,600 --> 01:22:03,320 Speaker 1: got an article on the best VPNs. So the expert 1619 01:22:03,439 --> 01:22:07,840 Speaker 1: I talked to recommended a VPN. What was it called, 1620 01:22:08,000 --> 01:22:11,040 Speaker 1: like molvat, movad m U l l v A D 1621 01:22:12,200 --> 01:22:16,880 Speaker 1: also IPVN, surf Chark and tunnel Bear. We're also recommendations. 1622 01:22:16,920 --> 01:22:18,680 Speaker 1: So if you want to get one, you can do that, 1623 01:22:18,760 --> 01:22:21,080 Speaker 1: but I don't think you'll need it for this solution. 1624 01:22:21,520 --> 01:22:24,720 Speaker 1: The other thing to do, Kathy, is just ditch Spotify 1625 01:22:24,800 --> 01:22:26,639 Speaker 1: for the week and go with some of the local music. 1626 01:22:26,720 --> 01:22:29,040 Speaker 1: Turn on a radio station. This is what I do 1627 01:22:29,080 --> 01:22:31,639 Speaker 1: when I go to a place like Hawaii. Just listen 1628 01:22:31,720 --> 01:22:34,719 Speaker 1: to the local stations. You get a little local, local 1629 01:22:34,800 --> 01:22:37,080 Speaker 1: flare in your life there. That's what I would do. 1630 01:22:37,800 --> 01:22:38,639 Speaker 2: But do both. 1631 01:22:38,760 --> 01:22:40,200 Speaker 1: You know you're gonna be on the plane. You're gonna 1632 01:22:40,200 --> 01:22:43,160 Speaker 1: watch your music there too, So download the Spotify playlists 1633 01:22:43,320 --> 01:22:47,759 Speaker 1: and there you go. Coming up, we're gonna talk about 1634 01:22:47,840 --> 01:22:52,080 Speaker 1: this idea of tap to pay. There's an there's an 1635 01:22:52,200 --> 01:22:55,439 Speaker 1: article that says some people are being charged for tap 1636 01:22:55,560 --> 01:23:01,080 Speaker 1: to pay even though they are not they're not using 1637 01:23:01,160 --> 01:23:03,360 Speaker 1: that card. Actually, I'll just tell you about this. Apparently 1638 01:23:03,360 --> 01:23:06,080 Speaker 1: I have enough time. This is an article out of 1639 01:23:06,320 --> 01:23:11,200 Speaker 1: San Francisco KGO seven on your side. These people are 1640 01:23:11,240 --> 01:23:13,920 Speaker 1: saying that their tap to pay credit cards are being 1641 01:23:13,960 --> 01:23:17,280 Speaker 1: activated even though they're in their purse or pocket. Now, 1642 01:23:17,840 --> 01:23:19,599 Speaker 1: if you would have told me this two weeks ago, 1643 01:23:19,640 --> 01:23:21,439 Speaker 1: I would have not believed it. I would have said 1644 01:23:21,720 --> 01:23:23,800 Speaker 1: that doesn't happen. But I will tell you this has 1645 01:23:23,840 --> 01:23:27,760 Speaker 1: happened to me twice in the last two weeks where 1646 01:23:27,880 --> 01:23:29,000 Speaker 1: I took out my card. 1647 01:23:29,080 --> 01:23:30,599 Speaker 2: I was at Trader Joe's the other day. 1648 01:23:30,880 --> 01:23:33,000 Speaker 1: I literally just took my card out and put it 1649 01:23:33,439 --> 01:23:35,280 Speaker 1: just kind of in my hand, and all of a sudden, 1650 01:23:35,840 --> 01:23:38,559 Speaker 1: it beeped and it was done. Even the cashier at 1651 01:23:38,600 --> 01:23:40,760 Speaker 1: Trader Joe's was like, Wow, that was really far away. 1652 01:23:40,840 --> 01:23:42,760 Speaker 1: What do you have like a supercharged card? I said, no, 1653 01:23:42,840 --> 01:23:45,519 Speaker 1: I've never seen that happen before. And it happened again 1654 01:23:45,560 --> 01:23:48,240 Speaker 1: another time. So I don't know if I believe that 1655 01:23:48,320 --> 01:23:52,920 Speaker 1: these things are being activated. One viewer said, Matthews checked 1656 01:23:52,920 --> 01:23:55,280 Speaker 1: his bank accounts. Turned out the tap to pay card 1657 01:23:55,320 --> 01:23:58,400 Speaker 1: reader at Safeway ignored the debit card in his hand. Instead, 1658 01:23:58,520 --> 01:24:01,280 Speaker 1: it reached into Matthew's back pocket, through his wallet and 1659 01:24:01,400 --> 01:24:03,879 Speaker 1: charged his bank of America credit card tucked inside. 1660 01:24:04,240 --> 01:24:05,800 Speaker 2: Now that seems a little elaborate. 1661 01:24:06,040 --> 01:24:10,560 Speaker 1: You're telling me this ore, This NFC chip radio frequency 1662 01:24:11,160 --> 01:24:14,120 Speaker 1: went through his wallet in his back pocket. I don't 1663 01:24:14,120 --> 01:24:17,679 Speaker 1: know if I believe that, but the reality is, yes, 1664 01:24:18,000 --> 01:24:20,680 Speaker 1: tap to pay. I think it works most of the 1665 01:24:20,800 --> 01:24:23,680 Speaker 1: time pretty well. And I don't think that this is 1666 01:24:23,720 --> 01:24:25,040 Speaker 1: happening in a big way to people. 1667 01:24:25,080 --> 01:24:25,640 Speaker 2: But let me know. 1668 01:24:26,000 --> 01:24:28,200 Speaker 1: Hello at richon Tech dot TV. Tell me if you've 1669 01:24:28,280 --> 01:24:33,000 Speaker 1: gotten a surprise charge because of this. Now, by the way, 1670 01:24:33,000 --> 01:24:34,439 Speaker 1: if you're using a debit card, it's going to ask 1671 01:24:34,479 --> 01:24:36,439 Speaker 1: for your debit card number or your PIN number. Most 1672 01:24:36,479 --> 01:24:38,559 Speaker 1: of the time, Visa says you have to be two 1673 01:24:38,600 --> 01:24:41,000 Speaker 1: inches from the reader. And if you want something that 1674 01:24:41,120 --> 01:24:45,000 Speaker 1: protects look for an RFID protection wallet. Silent pocket makes 1675 01:24:45,080 --> 01:24:49,680 Speaker 1: them silent pocket eighty eight rich one O one eight 1676 01:24:49,760 --> 01:24:52,400 Speaker 1: eight eight seven four to two four to one zero one. 1677 01:24:52,479 --> 01:24:55,560 Speaker 1: You are listening to rich on Tech. Welcome back to 1678 01:24:56,080 --> 01:24:59,760 Speaker 1: rich on Tech. Rich Tamuro here talking technology with you. 1679 01:25:00,000 --> 01:25:05,320 Speaker 1: I'm the chech reporter at KTLA Channel five in Los Angeles. Also, 1680 01:25:05,760 --> 01:25:08,360 Speaker 1: if you're sitting there saying wait a second, I've seen 1681 01:25:08,400 --> 01:25:12,120 Speaker 1: you on a different station. Yes, the segments do go 1682 01:25:12,200 --> 01:25:16,639 Speaker 1: out to a variety of TV stations all over the place. 1683 01:25:16,760 --> 01:25:18,519 Speaker 1: So I get emails from people saying, I saw you 1684 01:25:18,560 --> 01:25:20,599 Speaker 1: when I was on vacation in Hawaii, or I saw 1685 01:25:20,640 --> 01:25:23,880 Speaker 1: you when I was in Saint Louis. Yeah, so you 1686 01:25:23,960 --> 01:25:26,680 Speaker 1: may see me in different places, but I am headquartered 1687 01:25:26,840 --> 01:25:29,439 Speaker 1: in Los Angeles. If you want to see my TV 1688 01:25:29,600 --> 01:25:32,400 Speaker 1: segments where I cover a variety of tech topics, just 1689 01:25:32,520 --> 01:25:38,080 Speaker 1: go to Rich on tech dot TV. Apple has a 1690 01:25:38,320 --> 01:25:42,400 Speaker 1: new high yield savings account. Now this is not a 1691 01:25:42,479 --> 01:25:47,040 Speaker 1: financial advice show, but I feel like this is It's 1692 01:25:47,120 --> 01:25:49,439 Speaker 1: like everything with Apple. They just continue to get into 1693 01:25:49,680 --> 01:25:55,960 Speaker 1: more areas. Apple got into the financial services area with 1694 01:25:56,160 --> 01:25:59,479 Speaker 1: their credit card a couple of years back. People seem 1695 01:25:59,560 --> 01:26:03,960 Speaker 1: to love it it. I do not have one, But 1696 01:26:04,120 --> 01:26:07,960 Speaker 1: now they are doing a high yield savings account and 1697 01:26:08,040 --> 01:26:10,640 Speaker 1: this is kind of put some people on on. Uh 1698 01:26:11,600 --> 01:26:15,519 Speaker 1: what's the term I'm looking for. I don't know, but 1699 01:26:15,680 --> 01:26:18,479 Speaker 1: people are now noticing that, you know this is this 1700 01:26:18,680 --> 01:26:24,360 Speaker 1: is offering four point one five interest, which is pretty good. 1701 01:26:25,400 --> 01:26:28,479 Speaker 1: Apple says that's more than ten times the national average. 1702 01:26:28,600 --> 01:26:31,640 Speaker 1: Now that's a little misleading, because, yeah, the national averages 1703 01:26:31,720 --> 01:26:34,559 Speaker 1: includes banks like Chase and Bank of America who don't 1704 01:26:34,640 --> 01:26:37,800 Speaker 1: really pay anything. But there's a lot of online banks 1705 01:26:37,840 --> 01:26:40,240 Speaker 1: that do pay a lot more than than the you know, 1706 01:26:41,120 --> 01:26:44,840 Speaker 1: one percent or whatever. So no fees, no minimum deposits, 1707 01:26:44,960 --> 01:26:48,040 Speaker 1: no minimum balance requirements. You can set it up on 1708 01:26:48,080 --> 01:26:48,839 Speaker 1: your iPhone. 1709 01:26:48,880 --> 01:26:49,320 Speaker 5: You have to. 1710 01:26:49,479 --> 01:26:51,840 Speaker 1: Here's the deal. You have to have an iPhone to 1711 01:26:51,880 --> 01:26:54,840 Speaker 1: get this savings account. You also have to have a 1712 01:26:54,960 --> 01:26:57,439 Speaker 1: credit card, the Apple credit card. They don't call it 1713 01:26:57,439 --> 01:26:59,760 Speaker 1: a credit card, they call it the Apple card. They 1714 01:26:59,760 --> 01:27:02,599 Speaker 1: don't want to put that dirty credit word in there, 1715 01:27:03,080 --> 01:27:05,200 Speaker 1: but yes, it's a credit card. Apple Card is a 1716 01:27:05,240 --> 01:27:09,479 Speaker 1: credit card. Once you do that, you can get your 1717 01:27:09,840 --> 01:27:13,439 Speaker 1: daily cash reward. So if you use your Apple credit 1718 01:27:13,520 --> 01:27:16,640 Speaker 1: card to pay for stuff, you get a tiny bit 1719 01:27:16,680 --> 01:27:19,120 Speaker 1: of cash back, and you can now have that cash 1720 01:27:19,200 --> 01:27:22,599 Speaker 1: back deposited into this savings account so it will grow interest. 1721 01:27:23,320 --> 01:27:27,519 Speaker 1: Now I'm not a financial advice person, but I will 1722 01:27:27,600 --> 01:27:31,000 Speaker 1: just give you my thoughts on this. I'm not getting 1723 01:27:31,160 --> 01:27:34,400 Speaker 1: a savings account that a requires an iPhone to have 1724 01:27:35,360 --> 01:27:38,640 Speaker 1: and b requires a credit card to have. Those are 1725 01:27:38,720 --> 01:27:41,960 Speaker 1: just two things that are not I just I'm not 1726 01:27:42,160 --> 01:27:45,880 Speaker 1: linking my account to having a certain type of phone 1727 01:27:46,160 --> 01:27:47,280 Speaker 1: or a certain type of credit card. 1728 01:27:47,360 --> 01:27:48,200 Speaker 2: That's just not happening. 1729 01:27:48,840 --> 01:27:53,680 Speaker 1: So with that said, if you want to get a 1730 01:27:54,160 --> 01:27:58,280 Speaker 1: high yield savings account like this, there are many other 1731 01:27:58,439 --> 01:28:01,080 Speaker 1: accounts that you can look up online that will give 1732 01:28:01,120 --> 01:28:05,360 Speaker 1: you similar interests that don't have all of these catches. 1733 01:28:06,040 --> 01:28:09,680 Speaker 1: According to MarketWatch, they say, CIT Bank gives you four 1734 01:28:09,720 --> 01:28:14,040 Speaker 1: point seventy five percent. BREAD Savings pays four point five upgrade, 1735 01:28:14,080 --> 01:28:16,840 Speaker 1: Premier Savings gives you four point five six uf B 1736 01:28:17,040 --> 01:28:20,759 Speaker 1: Premier Savings gives you four point eight one percent. CFG 1737 01:28:20,960 --> 01:28:24,479 Speaker 1: bank is giving five point oh two percent. Wow, that's 1738 01:28:25,000 --> 01:28:25,479 Speaker 1: pretty good. 1739 01:28:26,320 --> 01:28:26,479 Speaker 9: Now. 1740 01:28:26,560 --> 01:28:29,200 Speaker 1: The thing about a lot of these high yield savings 1741 01:28:29,240 --> 01:28:33,840 Speaker 1: accounts is that they require a whole bunch of things. Okay, 1742 01:28:34,000 --> 01:28:38,080 Speaker 1: so with this CFG, to get that five point zero 1743 01:28:38,080 --> 01:28:40,080 Speaker 1: two you have to have an initial deposit of ten 1744 01:28:40,520 --> 01:28:44,280 Speaker 1: one thousand dollars and maintain ten I don't keep saying 1745 01:28:44,280 --> 01:28:47,000 Speaker 1: ten thousand, one thousand dollars or you're gonna get a 1746 01:28:47,040 --> 01:28:50,439 Speaker 1: ten dollars monthly service fee. So I guess my bottom 1747 01:28:50,520 --> 01:28:53,080 Speaker 1: line is that if you're looking to get one of 1748 01:28:53,120 --> 01:28:56,160 Speaker 1: these accounts, to try to find one that does not 1749 01:28:56,439 --> 01:28:59,280 Speaker 1: have any sort of minimum and does not have any 1750 01:28:59,360 --> 01:29:02,080 Speaker 1: sort of fee, because you may say, oh, I've got 1751 01:29:02,120 --> 01:29:04,280 Speaker 1: the thousand bucks right now, I'll put that in there, 1752 01:29:04,320 --> 01:29:07,439 Speaker 1: and you know, life happens and things change and you 1753 01:29:07,520 --> 01:29:09,320 Speaker 1: may not have that thousand in there, and next thing 1754 01:29:09,360 --> 01:29:11,600 Speaker 1: you know, you're getting a ten dollars service fee, and 1755 01:29:11,920 --> 01:29:14,400 Speaker 1: over ten months that's one hundred bucks, and there goes 1756 01:29:14,439 --> 01:29:18,080 Speaker 1: all of your interests that you're getting. So I love 1757 01:29:18,479 --> 01:29:22,240 Speaker 1: savings accounts. I love saving money, but I look, if 1758 01:29:22,280 --> 01:29:24,599 Speaker 1: you have an iPhone and you've got the Apple credit card, 1759 01:29:25,600 --> 01:29:29,760 Speaker 1: you know, fine, but it's it sounds really good, but 1760 01:29:29,840 --> 01:29:32,760 Speaker 1: there are some catches, even though Apple says and also, 1761 01:29:32,880 --> 01:29:35,519 Speaker 1: I mean this money that you're getting from the daily cash, 1762 01:29:36,240 --> 01:29:38,160 Speaker 1: I mean, come on, it's one, two or three percent. 1763 01:29:39,160 --> 01:29:42,479 Speaker 1: How much are you transferring into this savings account because 1764 01:29:42,520 --> 01:29:44,680 Speaker 1: of that? I mean, if you're saving money based on 1765 01:29:44,800 --> 01:29:48,000 Speaker 1: spending money, that's a little little. 1766 01:29:48,320 --> 01:29:50,439 Speaker 2: Kind of odd to me. But who what do I know. 1767 01:29:50,520 --> 01:29:55,479 Speaker 1: I'm a tech person, not a financial person. Polestar four 1768 01:29:55,880 --> 01:29:59,879 Speaker 1: this is uh probably one of my favorite evs. Pollstar 1769 01:30:00,760 --> 01:30:04,480 Speaker 1: is owned by Volvo. I did a story on the Polestar. 1770 01:30:05,720 --> 01:30:05,880 Speaker 6: Two. 1771 01:30:06,120 --> 01:30:08,439 Speaker 1: Was it or the Polestar one? I can't remember at 1772 01:30:08,439 --> 01:30:14,240 Speaker 1: this point. Really really nice looking ev beautiful design. Now 1773 01:30:14,280 --> 01:30:16,760 Speaker 1: they've got the Polestar four, which is sort of a 1774 01:30:16,920 --> 01:30:21,120 Speaker 1: compact suv suv coop they call it. It's got no 1775 01:30:21,240 --> 01:30:24,760 Speaker 1: rear window. That's right, no rear window. Now there's not 1776 01:30:24,840 --> 01:30:28,520 Speaker 1: an open air part of this car. It is enclosed. 1777 01:30:29,120 --> 01:30:33,240 Speaker 1: But basically it's got the roof window which comes down 1778 01:30:33,360 --> 01:30:37,280 Speaker 1: and that's it. No traditional back window. And so Polestar 1779 01:30:37,400 --> 01:30:40,960 Speaker 1: says that they did this because they wanted to be unique. 1780 01:30:41,920 --> 01:30:45,640 Speaker 1: It also, I guess makes the car more aerodynamic. And 1781 01:30:46,479 --> 01:30:48,680 Speaker 1: they said, why do we need a rearview window? Why 1782 01:30:48,760 --> 01:30:50,599 Speaker 1: do we need it when people are looking at their 1783 01:30:50,640 --> 01:30:53,880 Speaker 1: cameras all the time. And so the rear view mirror 1784 01:30:54,560 --> 01:30:58,599 Speaker 1: is actually a video feed of a roof mounted rear 1785 01:30:58,720 --> 01:31:03,040 Speaker 1: camera and it gives a nice big view. And so 1786 01:31:03,760 --> 01:31:06,680 Speaker 1: I've seen this before in cars where the rear view 1787 01:31:06,680 --> 01:31:09,720 Speaker 1: mirror is a video feed. The difference is that you 1788 01:31:09,760 --> 01:31:12,160 Speaker 1: would flip a switch and it would become a traditional mirror, 1789 01:31:12,240 --> 01:31:14,800 Speaker 1: like on the Chevy Bolt one is a is a 1790 01:31:15,240 --> 01:31:17,640 Speaker 1: you know, a camera feed and then you flip the 1791 01:31:17,680 --> 01:31:19,599 Speaker 1: little you know, how you have that like light dark 1792 01:31:19,840 --> 01:31:22,280 Speaker 1: switch on the rear view mirror will instead of a 1793 01:31:22,400 --> 01:31:24,720 Speaker 1: light dark kind of thing night day kind of thing. 1794 01:31:25,320 --> 01:31:28,040 Speaker 1: It switches to the camera or to an actual mirror. 1795 01:31:28,840 --> 01:31:33,679 Speaker 1: So the uh Pollstar designers told Wired that it creates 1796 01:31:33,720 --> 01:31:38,679 Speaker 1: a cocoon for the backseat passengers. I also like this feature. 1797 01:31:38,760 --> 01:31:43,840 Speaker 1: The rooftop glass is electrochromic, so which means it's kind 1798 01:31:43,840 --> 01:31:45,400 Speaker 1: of like those windows if you've ever been on one 1799 01:31:45,400 --> 01:31:47,599 Speaker 1: of the new planes. They don't have the shades anymore. 1800 01:31:48,000 --> 01:31:50,840 Speaker 1: The windows are electronic, and so you press a button 1801 01:31:51,000 --> 01:31:55,360 Speaker 1: to actually close the shade, and it's not a shade, 1802 01:31:55,360 --> 01:31:59,080 Speaker 1: it's just like electronic, almost like an LCD liquid display 1803 01:31:59,680 --> 01:32:00,120 Speaker 1: that just. 1804 01:32:01,080 --> 01:32:05,439 Speaker 2: Goes into the window. Very cool stuff. All right, Coming up, 1805 01:32:05,479 --> 01:32:07,840 Speaker 2: we're going to talk to David Kaff of tech Talk. 1806 01:32:08,360 --> 01:32:10,400 Speaker 1: He's going to tell us how to remove our personal 1807 01:32:10,560 --> 01:32:14,080 Speaker 1: information from the Internet. Very important stuff. If you want 1808 01:32:14,120 --> 01:32:15,240 Speaker 1: to give me a call, I got time for a 1809 01:32:15,280 --> 01:32:17,720 Speaker 1: little bit more. Triple eight rich one On one eight 1810 01:32:17,800 --> 01:32:22,519 Speaker 1: eight eight seven four two four one zero one. Welcome 1811 01:32:22,600 --> 01:32:27,160 Speaker 1: back to rich On Tech rich Demiro here talking technology 1812 01:32:27,520 --> 01:32:31,879 Speaker 1: with you. Have you ever done a Google search on yourself? 1813 01:32:31,920 --> 01:32:34,920 Speaker 1: Have you ever seen how much information is out there 1814 01:32:35,080 --> 01:32:39,320 Speaker 1: on the Internet about you? This week Google emailed me 1815 01:32:39,520 --> 01:32:42,439 Speaker 1: and said that I've got this new feature called Dark 1816 01:32:42,520 --> 01:32:46,640 Speaker 1: Web monitoring, So it looks for my personal information on 1817 01:32:47,400 --> 01:32:50,400 Speaker 1: the dark Web and maybe on the web at large. 1818 01:32:51,400 --> 01:32:54,519 Speaker 1: And it's just eye opening. How much is out there. 1819 01:32:54,560 --> 01:32:59,360 Speaker 1: I mean, everything is out there, and it's it's pretty incredible. 1820 01:33:00,200 --> 01:33:03,200 Speaker 1: Joining me now is David Coff. He writes a newsletter 1821 01:33:03,360 --> 01:33:08,320 Speaker 1: at www dot technology Talk dot net, and he wrote 1822 01:33:08,320 --> 01:33:13,599 Speaker 1: an interesting newsletter this week about getting personal information off 1823 01:33:13,840 --> 01:33:15,720 Speaker 1: the Internet and why you should do this. 1824 01:33:16,400 --> 01:33:17,640 Speaker 2: David, thanks so much for joining me. 1825 01:33:18,400 --> 01:33:20,040 Speaker 5: Thank you for having me pleasure to be here. 1826 01:33:20,479 --> 01:33:24,760 Speaker 1: Okay, so let's talk about this PII. What does that 1827 01:33:24,920 --> 01:33:25,320 Speaker 1: stand for? 1828 01:33:26,479 --> 01:33:33,760 Speaker 5: Personally identifiable information? This is a shorthand acronyms. Some technology 1829 01:33:33,800 --> 01:33:36,720 Speaker 5: folks love their acronyms. Just think of it as any 1830 01:33:37,000 --> 01:33:40,880 Speaker 5: private or personal information you wouldn't want strangers to know. 1831 01:33:41,080 --> 01:33:44,280 Speaker 5: This can be your phone numbers, your email addresses, your 1832 01:33:44,439 --> 01:33:46,760 Speaker 5: physical mailing addresses and more. 1833 01:33:47,920 --> 01:33:49,880 Speaker 1: And this stuff is out there. How does it get 1834 01:33:50,280 --> 01:33:51,760 Speaker 1: on the Internet? And I'm just going to ask you 1835 01:33:52,120 --> 01:33:54,720 Speaker 1: if you can talk right into your phone, bes I'm 1836 01:33:55,040 --> 01:33:56,040 Speaker 1: having some trouble hearing you. 1837 01:33:56,880 --> 01:34:00,840 Speaker 5: I've got my earbuds in. We'll speak a little bit 1838 01:34:00,920 --> 01:34:01,559 Speaker 5: louder out. 1839 01:34:01,439 --> 01:34:04,040 Speaker 2: Of that perfect So tell me, how does this stuff 1840 01:34:04,040 --> 01:34:04,519 Speaker 2: get out there. 1841 01:34:05,880 --> 01:34:12,720 Speaker 5: Over time, data brokers collect your information based on harvesting 1842 01:34:12,880 --> 01:34:16,000 Speaker 5: publicly available information about you. And if you think about 1843 01:34:16,000 --> 01:34:19,200 Speaker 5: all the things that you do. You own a cell phone, 1844 01:34:19,320 --> 01:34:22,840 Speaker 5: you make phone calls, you have credit cards, you make purchases, 1845 01:34:23,200 --> 01:34:27,799 Speaker 5: you register to vote, you sign up for local, state, 1846 01:34:27,960 --> 01:34:33,480 Speaker 5: and federal elections. That information, in many cases. 1847 01:34:33,240 --> 01:34:34,400 Speaker 14: Is publicly available. 1848 01:34:35,280 --> 01:34:38,200 Speaker 5: What is int publicly available can be purchased from a 1849 01:34:38,320 --> 01:34:40,600 Speaker 5: variety of what I like to call feeder companies, so 1850 01:34:40,920 --> 01:34:45,080 Speaker 5: social media technology companies. You go online, you're leaving a 1851 01:34:45,120 --> 01:34:49,160 Speaker 5: digital trail. This information gets collected and harvested by companies 1852 01:34:49,240 --> 01:34:53,000 Speaker 5: known as data brokers, and then they sell that information 1853 01:34:53,800 --> 01:34:58,639 Speaker 5: and boy is it accurate. So over time, both public 1854 01:34:58,720 --> 01:35:04,360 Speaker 5: and private databases get collected, and a doctu about each 1855 01:35:04,439 --> 01:35:08,160 Speaker 5: and every one of us gets formed with an awful 1856 01:35:08,200 --> 01:35:12,519 Speaker 5: lot of information, including our credit histories in many examples. 1857 01:35:12,920 --> 01:35:16,120 Speaker 1: Now that's just the legitimate sources where these companies are 1858 01:35:16,160 --> 01:35:18,880 Speaker 1: going out and finding this stuff and putting it together. 1859 01:35:19,040 --> 01:35:20,639 Speaker 1: And if you know, you can just do a search 1860 01:35:20,760 --> 01:35:22,760 Speaker 1: like for a people finder, and there's all kinds of 1861 01:35:23,360 --> 01:35:25,519 Speaker 1: websites that pop up. But then there's also the stuff 1862 01:35:25,560 --> 01:35:27,679 Speaker 1: like I was just talking about like where it gets 1863 01:35:27,800 --> 01:35:31,439 Speaker 1: leaked online, like where there's a some sort of data 1864 01:35:31,520 --> 01:35:34,559 Speaker 1: breach and that information finds its way onto the internet 1865 01:35:34,600 --> 01:35:38,120 Speaker 1: as well. So let's talk about some of these ways 1866 01:35:38,479 --> 01:35:41,960 Speaker 1: you went down sort of this kind of trail of 1867 01:35:42,120 --> 01:35:44,320 Speaker 1: figuring out how to get this stuff off the internet. 1868 01:35:44,479 --> 01:35:47,679 Speaker 1: What's your number one kind of DIY solution? 1869 01:35:48,000 --> 01:35:53,479 Speaker 6: First off, So there are people who have taken an 1870 01:35:53,600 --> 01:36:00,519 Speaker 6: extremely detailed approach to this, and you can, and I 1871 01:36:00,920 --> 01:36:04,160 Speaker 6: have a list of instructions on my website. 1872 01:36:04,760 --> 01:36:09,519 Speaker 5: You can go through contact twenty to thirty largest data 1873 01:36:09,600 --> 01:36:13,879 Speaker 5: brokers on your own. You can make a written request. 1874 01:36:14,800 --> 01:36:17,040 Speaker 5: You can point to the link on their website that 1875 01:36:17,120 --> 01:36:20,040 Speaker 5: has your information, let them know that they do not 1876 01:36:20,200 --> 01:36:23,720 Speaker 5: have your permission to do it, and you read need 1877 01:36:23,800 --> 01:36:26,920 Speaker 5: to give them anywhere from seven to twenty eight days 1878 01:36:27,200 --> 01:36:31,200 Speaker 5: to scrub your data. They may ask for additional information 1879 01:36:31,280 --> 01:36:33,920 Speaker 5: about you, an ID or something to prove that you 1880 01:36:34,040 --> 01:36:36,200 Speaker 5: are who you are. But you can totally do this 1881 01:36:36,520 --> 01:36:40,120 Speaker 5: on your own. There are other ways of doing it though, 1882 01:36:40,240 --> 01:36:43,880 Speaker 5: for those that don't have the approximately fifteen to thirty 1883 01:36:43,960 --> 01:36:46,200 Speaker 5: hours of time that you're going to want to invest 1884 01:36:46,280 --> 01:36:46,880 Speaker 5: in doing this. 1885 01:36:47,160 --> 01:36:50,640 Speaker 1: Now, I did this myself so I went through and 1886 01:36:50,760 --> 01:36:53,640 Speaker 1: I did it for maybe the top five companies or so, 1887 01:36:54,360 --> 01:36:56,920 Speaker 1: and it is. It does work. It does take time, 1888 01:36:57,360 --> 01:37:00,000 Speaker 1: but you do have to find someone with instructions online. 1889 01:37:00,400 --> 01:37:04,120 Speaker 1: I believe I use the website that you talked about. 1890 01:37:04,120 --> 01:37:06,080 Speaker 1: I think it's like delete me or is it just 1891 01:37:06,200 --> 01:37:06,600 Speaker 1: delete me? 1892 01:37:07,520 --> 01:37:10,200 Speaker 5: Yeah, So there are for a small fee. There are 1893 01:37:10,360 --> 01:37:12,600 Speaker 5: certain companies to those who don't want to do it 1894 01:37:12,680 --> 01:37:14,400 Speaker 5: on your own, and I want to emphasize to your 1895 01:37:14,439 --> 01:37:18,120 Speaker 5: listeners you can totally do this for free on your own. 1896 01:37:18,360 --> 01:37:21,240 Speaker 5: You're just investing your time. For those that wish to 1897 01:37:21,400 --> 01:37:25,040 Speaker 5: invest somewhere between five and six dollars a month. There 1898 01:37:25,080 --> 01:37:28,280 Speaker 5: are two companies that I personally use. The first, which 1899 01:37:28,320 --> 01:37:32,479 Speaker 5: I prefer as a company called delete me and you 1900 01:37:32,640 --> 01:37:36,400 Speaker 5: will with delete me, and the second top choice that 1901 01:37:36,479 --> 01:37:40,160 Speaker 5: I use, which is called Incogniti, which is short for incognito. 1902 01:37:41,000 --> 01:37:42,840 Speaker 5: You're going to let these folks know who you are. 1903 01:37:42,920 --> 01:37:45,760 Speaker 5: You're going to need to provide them with your name, 1904 01:37:45,920 --> 01:37:49,719 Speaker 5: your phone number, your addresses, your previous residences, any previous 1905 01:37:49,800 --> 01:37:52,719 Speaker 5: emails and phone numbers that may be a red flag 1906 01:37:52,800 --> 01:37:54,560 Speaker 5: for some of your listeners. I want to make this 1907 01:37:54,880 --> 01:37:59,800 Speaker 5: clear because it's important that data is already publicly available. 1908 01:38:00,560 --> 01:38:04,479 Speaker 5: It's available on any one of your credit reports. So 1909 01:38:04,720 --> 01:38:07,160 Speaker 5: it's to your best interest if you're hiring a company 1910 01:38:07,200 --> 01:38:10,080 Speaker 5: to help you scrub your data, be upfront with them 1911 01:38:10,120 --> 01:38:13,960 Speaker 5: about any of your personal information currently and in the past. 1912 01:38:14,080 --> 01:38:17,000 Speaker 5: That will enable them to go and target you and 1913 01:38:17,160 --> 01:38:20,400 Speaker 5: scrub you from every major and minor data broker and 1914 01:38:20,840 --> 01:38:21,840 Speaker 5: public databases. 1915 01:38:23,160 --> 01:38:27,280 Speaker 1: Now, what's this app from Consumer Reports? I was not 1916 01:38:27,360 --> 01:38:29,400 Speaker 1: aware of this app that you mentioned in your newsletter 1917 01:38:29,520 --> 01:38:33,240 Speaker 1: at Technology Talk dot net episode eighty seven. 1918 01:38:33,360 --> 01:38:37,000 Speaker 2: By the way, what is this app? It's called let's 1919 01:38:37,000 --> 01:38:39,439 Speaker 2: see where is it called Permission Slips? Okay, so what 1920 01:38:39,520 --> 01:38:39,920 Speaker 2: does that do? 1921 01:38:40,760 --> 01:38:41,760 Speaker 6: So for the record, I. 1922 01:38:41,880 --> 01:38:44,160 Speaker 5: Hadn't been aware of it either. One of my readers 1923 01:38:44,280 --> 01:38:47,320 Speaker 5: on my newsletter wrote to me and said, hey, are 1924 01:38:47,320 --> 01:38:50,000 Speaker 5: you familiar with this? It's from the great Consumer Reports? 1925 01:38:50,120 --> 01:38:52,800 Speaker 5: And most people know Consumer Reports is they've been around 1926 01:38:52,840 --> 01:38:56,920 Speaker 5: for decades testing on behalf of consumers so that you 1927 01:38:57,000 --> 01:38:59,920 Speaker 5: know which products are better than others. Well, they've created 1928 01:39:00,080 --> 01:39:04,360 Speaker 5: this free application for iOS and Android. It's called Permission Slip, 1929 01:39:05,400 --> 01:39:08,160 Speaker 5: and they do something that I would recommend that everyone 1930 01:39:08,360 --> 01:39:12,280 Speaker 5: do in addition to scrubbing their own data. They specifically 1931 01:39:12,360 --> 01:39:17,160 Speaker 5: scrub data from commercial websites. So, for example, I had 1932 01:39:17,840 --> 01:39:22,160 Speaker 5: a subscription to the Los Angeles Times, I had a 1933 01:39:22,240 --> 01:39:26,840 Speaker 5: purchase history and account with Guitar Center. When looking for jobs, 1934 01:39:26,920 --> 01:39:30,000 Speaker 5: I had an account on a website called. 1935 01:39:29,880 --> 01:39:31,880 Speaker 8: Zip Recruiter, on and on and on. 1936 01:39:32,200 --> 01:39:36,120 Speaker 5: And what permission slip does is instead of targeting public 1937 01:39:36,439 --> 01:39:41,760 Speaker 5: and private databases, it works with different companies that may 1938 01:39:41,880 --> 01:39:45,639 Speaker 5: have your information and basically does the same thing. Invites 1939 01:39:45,760 --> 01:39:48,080 Speaker 5: those people to know you don't want them to have 1940 01:39:48,200 --> 01:39:51,760 Speaker 5: their information, and they will help be the middleman to 1941 01:39:51,880 --> 01:39:54,920 Speaker 5: scrub your data from all of these commercial websites. And 1942 01:39:55,000 --> 01:39:59,160 Speaker 5: there are somewhere between thirty and seventy websites that permission 1943 01:39:59,240 --> 01:40:01,280 Speaker 5: slip I will help you scrub your data from. 1944 01:40:02,240 --> 01:40:04,240 Speaker 1: Very cool. So what did you learn in all this? 1945 01:40:04,760 --> 01:40:06,679 Speaker 1: Do you feel like you got to a good place 1946 01:40:06,760 --> 01:40:08,640 Speaker 1: with your personal data online or what? 1947 01:40:09,439 --> 01:40:09,639 Speaker 8: Yeah? 1948 01:40:09,720 --> 01:40:12,080 Speaker 5: I learned two things that's I think a good question. 1949 01:40:12,200 --> 01:40:16,479 Speaker 5: The first is anyone can do this and should. The 1950 01:40:16,640 --> 01:40:19,679 Speaker 5: second thing, which I think is worth sharing and maybe 1951 01:40:19,920 --> 01:40:22,240 Speaker 5: a little bit scary, is that this is something that 1952 01:40:22,400 --> 01:40:24,880 Speaker 5: needs to be done fairly regularly. And you were just 1953 01:40:25,040 --> 01:40:29,519 Speaker 5: saying there any number of data breaches websites get hacked, 1954 01:40:29,640 --> 01:40:35,560 Speaker 5: companies get hacked, credit unions get hacked. So when Equifax 1955 01:40:35,760 --> 01:40:40,000 Speaker 5: got hacked, hundreds of millions of Americans, so the personal 1956 01:40:40,120 --> 01:40:42,720 Speaker 5: data leaked under the dark web. This is something that 1957 01:40:42,800 --> 01:40:45,719 Speaker 5: you should be doing regularly, whether you do it yourself 1958 01:40:45,920 --> 01:40:48,559 Speaker 5: or whether you pay someone else to do it. Really 1959 01:40:48,680 --> 01:40:51,560 Speaker 5: is something that should become a monthly or at the 1960 01:40:51,680 --> 01:40:53,960 Speaker 5: very least a yearly part of what I like to 1961 01:40:54,040 --> 01:40:55,120 Speaker 5: call your digital. 1962 01:40:54,840 --> 01:40:59,040 Speaker 2: Hygieneugh monthly or yearly. I was lucky to do it 1963 01:40:59,200 --> 01:40:59,840 Speaker 2: once speak. 1964 01:41:00,240 --> 01:41:02,679 Speaker 1: It is a lot of work, but it does feel 1965 01:41:02,760 --> 01:41:05,680 Speaker 1: good when you start doing those Google searches and you 1966 01:41:05,800 --> 01:41:08,120 Speaker 1: are able to remove some of that personal data. Google 1967 01:41:08,240 --> 01:41:13,080 Speaker 1: also has a service in itself that lets you remove 1968 01:41:13,160 --> 01:41:15,639 Speaker 1: some of your personal data as well. I've talked about 1969 01:41:15,680 --> 01:41:17,120 Speaker 1: that in the past. I'll put a link to that 1970 01:41:17,200 --> 01:41:20,679 Speaker 1: on my website. David, thanks so much for joining me today. 1971 01:41:20,680 --> 01:41:23,240 Speaker 1: I'm gonna put a link to technology Talk dot net 1972 01:41:23,400 --> 01:41:28,080 Speaker 1: on my website at richon Tech dot tv coming up. 1973 01:41:28,560 --> 01:41:30,320 Speaker 2: I can't believe it's the end of the show. 1974 01:41:30,920 --> 01:41:35,040 Speaker 1: The feedback segment quickly becoming your favorite segment. 1975 01:41:35,600 --> 01:41:38,360 Speaker 2: You're listening to Rich on tech. 1976 01:41:43,920 --> 01:41:46,679 Speaker 1: That'll wake you up. Rich Demiro here rich On Tech, 1977 01:41:46,760 --> 01:41:50,080 Speaker 1: welcome back to the show. I was gonna give out 1978 01:41:50,080 --> 01:41:54,200 Speaker 1: the phone number, but this is the feedback time it 1979 01:41:54,360 --> 01:41:59,400 Speaker 1: is I'm getting. Feedback is quickly becoming a big part 1980 01:41:59,439 --> 01:42:01,759 Speaker 1: of the show because clearly you're listening. 1981 01:42:01,920 --> 01:42:02,600 Speaker 9: So I like that. 1982 01:42:03,240 --> 01:42:05,400 Speaker 1: Let me do one more story real quick. Two things 1983 01:42:05,400 --> 01:42:07,040 Speaker 1: I wanted to mention before I get to the feedback. 1984 01:42:07,080 --> 01:42:10,840 Speaker 1: First off, if you have a HomePod or a HomePod, 1985 01:42:11,000 --> 01:42:15,280 Speaker 1: Mini sound recognition is now available. So this is a 1986 01:42:15,320 --> 01:42:18,800 Speaker 1: feature that Apple promised a couple months back. But now 1987 01:42:18,960 --> 01:42:23,440 Speaker 1: the HomePod can listen for smoke or carbon monoxide alarms 1988 01:42:23,920 --> 01:42:27,160 Speaker 1: in your home. So if it here's those sounds, it 1989 01:42:27,240 --> 01:42:29,880 Speaker 1: will send a notification to your iPhone, your iPad, or 1990 01:42:29,920 --> 01:42:33,280 Speaker 1: your Apple Watch. And basically it's kind of just listening 1991 01:42:33,360 --> 01:42:36,519 Speaker 1: for these things. And then on iPhone and iPad you'll 1992 01:42:36,520 --> 01:42:39,280 Speaker 1: have the option to check in and hear what's happening. 1993 01:42:39,840 --> 01:42:41,639 Speaker 1: And this is really important. My wife and I one 1994 01:42:41,680 --> 01:42:45,880 Speaker 1: time we flew to New Jersey and there was a 1995 01:42:46,600 --> 01:42:49,560 Speaker 1: fire alarm that happened in our home and it was 1996 01:42:49,640 --> 01:42:53,800 Speaker 1: a mess because it called the alarm system, called the 1997 01:42:53,960 --> 01:42:57,400 Speaker 1: fire department. They arrived on scene, and I felt so 1998 01:42:57,880 --> 01:43:00,040 Speaker 1: helpless because I didn't know what was going on, and 1999 01:43:00,120 --> 01:43:02,000 Speaker 1: I didn't have cameras in my home at the time, 2000 01:43:02,560 --> 01:43:04,519 Speaker 1: so I had no way of knowing what was happening. 2001 01:43:04,920 --> 01:43:07,080 Speaker 1: I had my friend, how how old school is this? 2002 01:43:07,200 --> 01:43:09,960 Speaker 1: I had a friend drive over to my house and 2003 01:43:10,160 --> 01:43:12,360 Speaker 1: look and see what's happening. And he said, the fire 2004 01:43:12,439 --> 01:43:15,160 Speaker 1: department was just about to break the back door to 2005 01:43:15,280 --> 01:43:17,800 Speaker 1: get in, and he said, hold on, you know, it's 2006 01:43:17,840 --> 01:43:20,240 Speaker 1: like I've got Rich on the line. And anyway, it 2007 01:43:20,280 --> 01:43:21,920 Speaker 1: turned out to be a false alarm. But and I 2008 01:43:22,040 --> 01:43:24,920 Speaker 1: installved cameras to see so I can check in anyway. 2009 01:43:24,960 --> 01:43:27,160 Speaker 1: I tell you all that because you know, to be 2010 01:43:27,200 --> 01:43:29,080 Speaker 1: able to listen in to see what's going or to 2011 01:43:29,160 --> 01:43:31,840 Speaker 1: hear what's happening, that's good. But also if you have 2012 01:43:31,920 --> 01:43:35,599 Speaker 1: a homek camera in your home, the video feed will 2013 01:43:35,640 --> 01:43:38,719 Speaker 1: be included in the notification, so you can see what's happening. 2014 01:43:39,479 --> 01:43:41,760 Speaker 1: Something you don't want to think about, but you know, 2015 01:43:42,120 --> 01:43:46,560 Speaker 1: definitely see what's happening inside your house. So that is available. 2016 01:43:47,120 --> 01:43:50,120 Speaker 1: The audio analysis happens on device and if you check in, 2017 01:43:50,240 --> 01:43:53,640 Speaker 1: it's and encrypted. Apple says, so if you've got a 2018 01:43:53,680 --> 01:43:57,360 Speaker 1: homepot or a HomePod Mini set, up sound recognition inside 2019 01:43:57,520 --> 01:43:59,240 Speaker 1: the home app. 2020 01:43:59,760 --> 01:44:03,280 Speaker 2: So, so something that is just kind of an extra perk. 2021 01:44:03,640 --> 01:44:06,960 Speaker 1: All right, if you got an Android phone Samsung, specifically, 2022 01:44:07,120 --> 01:44:09,000 Speaker 1: check out this app called pixel Search. 2023 01:44:09,120 --> 01:44:10,160 Speaker 2: I found this this week. 2024 01:44:11,160 --> 01:44:13,439 Speaker 1: I can't remember how I found it, but someone mentioned 2025 01:44:13,479 --> 01:44:15,680 Speaker 1: it and I installed it on the Samsung and I 2026 01:44:15,800 --> 01:44:19,800 Speaker 1: love it. Not a huge fan of Samsung's Finder, but 2027 01:44:20,200 --> 01:44:23,960 Speaker 1: pixel Search will basically kind of transform the search on 2028 01:44:24,120 --> 01:44:27,680 Speaker 1: your Samsung phone into something that's more pixely, so you 2029 01:44:27,760 --> 01:44:31,559 Speaker 1: can search through your apps, your contacts, web suggestions, and files. 2030 01:44:32,080 --> 01:44:36,320 Speaker 1: It's really clean, it looks really great, and I love it. 2031 01:44:36,880 --> 01:44:39,040 Speaker 1: So the only thing I wish I could do is 2032 01:44:39,120 --> 01:44:41,760 Speaker 1: get it to work when you swipe up on the 2033 01:44:41,960 --> 01:44:46,280 Speaker 1: Samsung Home screen. That would be awesome. That would really 2034 01:44:46,400 --> 01:44:48,920 Speaker 1: make it more into a pixel. So again, the app 2035 01:44:49,040 --> 01:44:52,479 Speaker 1: is called pixel Search. It's on Google Play. I believe 2036 01:44:52,560 --> 01:44:56,400 Speaker 1: it's free to freemium. But check it out pixel Search 2037 01:44:56,479 --> 01:44:59,400 Speaker 1: if you want something that's closer to the pixel on 2038 01:44:59,720 --> 01:45:00,519 Speaker 1: your Samsung. 2039 01:45:02,080 --> 01:45:02,400 Speaker 2: All right. 2040 01:45:02,479 --> 01:45:08,639 Speaker 1: Dominic writes in about Netflix ending DVD mail service. Hey, 2041 01:45:08,720 --> 01:45:11,599 Speaker 1: I'm hearing all the news about Netflix ending DVD service 2042 01:45:11,720 --> 01:45:15,000 Speaker 1: in the US. In the mail, the US Postal Service 2043 01:45:15,080 --> 01:45:17,400 Speaker 1: will lose business from Netflix as I work in the 2044 01:45:17,479 --> 01:45:20,880 Speaker 1: processing facility in San Diego and I see these DVDs 2045 01:45:20,960 --> 01:45:24,280 Speaker 1: coming through. Talk about how much business the postal service 2046 01:45:24,320 --> 01:45:26,680 Speaker 1: will lose, and if Netflix will put those DVDs that 2047 01:45:26,760 --> 01:45:28,519 Speaker 1: come in the mail on their clouds so people can 2048 01:45:28,600 --> 01:45:31,160 Speaker 1: stream them. That is why people get them in the mail, 2049 01:45:31,200 --> 01:45:35,000 Speaker 1: because they cannot be streamed. Thanks man for your work. Yeah, Dominic, 2050 01:45:35,640 --> 01:45:37,840 Speaker 1: you know, I work in the news and the video 2051 01:45:37,960 --> 01:45:42,679 Speaker 1: we showed for so many years was always, always, always, 2052 01:45:42,720 --> 01:45:46,400 Speaker 1: whenever we did a DVD Netflix story was always all 2053 01:45:46,560 --> 01:45:48,960 Speaker 1: of the DVDs that were being sorted in the post 2054 01:45:49,040 --> 01:45:52,479 Speaker 1: office and there was just thousands of them inside those 2055 01:45:53,200 --> 01:45:55,679 Speaker 1: you know, those bucket whatever those things are, those mail 2056 01:45:55,720 --> 01:45:58,799 Speaker 1: sorder kind of bins. But yeah, it's gonna have an impact. 2057 01:45:58,840 --> 01:46:01,400 Speaker 1: It's gonna be a lot less less DVD's going through 2058 01:46:01,439 --> 01:46:04,720 Speaker 1: the mail. Of course, a lot of business lost, as well, 2059 01:46:04,720 --> 01:46:07,720 Speaker 1: a lot of money that Netflix paid to the post 2060 01:46:07,800 --> 01:46:11,400 Speaker 1: service Postal service for this end of an error. 2061 01:46:11,479 --> 01:46:12,120 Speaker 2: For that's for sure. 2062 01:46:12,200 --> 01:46:14,320 Speaker 1: And yes, that's what people liked is that you can 2063 01:46:14,400 --> 01:46:19,240 Speaker 1: get anything on DVD that wasn't available necessarily on streaming 2064 01:46:19,760 --> 01:46:21,680 Speaker 1: a lot of stuff's on streaming of course it may 2065 01:46:21,760 --> 01:46:23,840 Speaker 1: cost you. That's the other big difference is that, yeah, 2066 01:46:23,840 --> 01:46:25,360 Speaker 1: you might be able to get on streaming, but for 2067 01:46:25,479 --> 01:46:29,240 Speaker 1: some of these obscure titles you have to pay. Steven 2068 01:46:29,320 --> 01:46:32,160 Speaker 1: palm Spring says, love, love, love you taking over for 2069 01:46:32,320 --> 01:46:34,559 Speaker 1: Leo on the talks on the Tech Show. I listen 2070 01:46:34,640 --> 01:46:37,639 Speaker 1: every week and you're doing a great job. Thank you Steve. 2071 01:46:38,800 --> 01:46:42,320 Speaker 1: By the way, Leo still does his shows on his 2072 01:46:42,439 --> 01:46:45,280 Speaker 1: own network. So I just took over the radio portion. 2073 01:46:46,479 --> 01:46:49,000 Speaker 1: I emailed you several weeks ago and expressed how pleased 2074 01:46:49,000 --> 01:46:50,960 Speaker 1: I was with the new format of the show. You're 2075 01:46:51,000 --> 01:46:53,599 Speaker 1: covering tech, computer and mobile, which is relevant for all 2076 01:46:53,680 --> 01:46:56,960 Speaker 1: of us. You throw in stories about evs again great. 2077 01:46:57,120 --> 01:46:59,639 Speaker 1: You tell personal stories like saving the guy in Hawaii, 2078 01:47:00,720 --> 01:47:03,560 Speaker 1: which are interesting and to the point. Keep doing what 2079 01:47:03,680 --> 01:47:06,559 Speaker 1: you're doing and most of us will be happy. Keep 2080 01:47:06,640 --> 01:47:07,360 Speaker 1: up the great work. 2081 01:47:07,600 --> 01:47:08,320 Speaker 2: Now my question. 2082 01:47:09,520 --> 01:47:12,160 Speaker 1: You indicated the show notes would be posted online. Oh, 2083 01:47:12,200 --> 01:47:15,080 Speaker 1: I knew you're gonna okay, So the nice comes with 2084 01:47:15,439 --> 01:47:18,840 Speaker 1: you know a you know, not so nice. I go 2085 01:47:18,920 --> 01:47:20,640 Speaker 1: to Rich on tech dot TV and it appears to 2086 01:47:20,720 --> 01:47:23,200 Speaker 1: me you're not They're not current, nor do they contain 2087 01:47:23,280 --> 01:47:25,439 Speaker 1: everything you spoke of on the show. Am I looking 2088 01:47:25,479 --> 01:47:28,800 Speaker 1: in the wrong place? Thanks rich for doing an awesome job. 2089 01:47:29,360 --> 01:47:32,960 Speaker 1: I'll admit it's me doing the notes, and sometimes they're thorough, 2090 01:47:33,120 --> 01:47:36,000 Speaker 1: sometimes they're not. I'm doing a better job. The best 2091 01:47:36,080 --> 01:47:39,120 Speaker 1: place this is put out as a podcast after it's 2092 01:47:39,560 --> 01:47:43,840 Speaker 1: on the show, and it's it's on podpage, dot com, 2093 01:47:44,000 --> 01:47:46,960 Speaker 1: slash rich on tech so I usually put that link 2094 01:47:47,080 --> 01:47:49,360 Speaker 1: on the rich on tech dot tv. It's a lot 2095 01:47:49,439 --> 01:47:52,720 Speaker 1: of different links, but hopefully rich on tech dot tv 2096 01:47:52,840 --> 01:47:54,760 Speaker 1: should be the clearinghouse for that. There is a little 2097 01:47:55,040 --> 01:47:57,639 Speaker 1: icon if you go to rich on tech dot tv, 2098 01:47:57,720 --> 01:47:59,880 Speaker 1: there's a bunch of icons. Look for the one that 2099 01:48:00,040 --> 01:48:03,240 Speaker 1: looks like a podcast. That's the one to click, and 2100 01:48:03,360 --> 01:48:05,160 Speaker 1: that will bring you to the show, which will bring 2101 01:48:05,240 --> 01:48:11,040 Speaker 1: you to the show notes. Vince writes, how do you 2102 01:48:11,120 --> 01:48:13,920 Speaker 1: stop ways from running after the car is turned off? 2103 01:48:14,000 --> 01:48:16,759 Speaker 1: I've got a twenty twenty one Nissan Rogue with wireless 2104 01:48:16,760 --> 01:48:19,960 Speaker 1: Apple car Play. I use Ways on an iPhone running 2105 01:48:19,960 --> 01:48:22,719 Speaker 1: the latest iOS update. My problem is Ways keeps running 2106 01:48:22,760 --> 01:48:24,679 Speaker 1: on my phone even after I turn off and exit 2107 01:48:24,760 --> 01:48:27,720 Speaker 1: the car after arriving at my destination. Is there a 2108 01:48:27,760 --> 01:48:29,920 Speaker 1: way to stop it from running in the background. I'm 2109 01:48:29,960 --> 01:48:32,200 Speaker 1: concerned about the impact on my battery drain. I would 2110 01:48:32,240 --> 01:48:34,679 Speaker 1: force clothes, but often I forget and it just keeps 2111 01:48:34,760 --> 01:48:37,200 Speaker 1: running in the background. Yeah, this is definitely an issue 2112 01:48:37,200 --> 01:48:39,160 Speaker 1: with Ways, but this is how Ways works. 2113 01:48:39,960 --> 01:48:40,280 Speaker 10: Ways. 2114 01:48:40,400 --> 01:48:44,120 Speaker 1: The whole thing is crowdsourced, and so they're collecting data 2115 01:48:44,280 --> 01:48:47,479 Speaker 1: off of your phone to help other Ways users, and 2116 01:48:47,600 --> 01:48:51,519 Speaker 1: so there is a way to stop Ways. And yes, 2117 01:48:51,680 --> 01:48:54,120 Speaker 1: this has happened to me, Dominic or Vince so many 2118 01:48:54,200 --> 01:48:58,040 Speaker 1: times where I get to my destination, my phone is 2119 01:48:58,080 --> 01:49:00,679 Speaker 1: in my pocket and all of a sudden, Ways starts 2120 01:49:00,760 --> 01:49:03,560 Speaker 1: spouting out some directions or something or some sort of 2121 01:49:03,680 --> 01:49:05,479 Speaker 1: like turn left at the next street. I'm like, wait, 2122 01:49:05,600 --> 01:49:09,080 Speaker 1: what So Ways is pretty much always running on your 2123 01:49:09,120 --> 01:49:11,120 Speaker 1: phone in the background unless you tell it not to. 2124 01:49:12,000 --> 01:49:14,160 Speaker 1: And the only way I know of to tell it 2125 01:49:14,280 --> 01:49:19,000 Speaker 1: not to is by going into the Ways app and 2126 01:49:19,120 --> 01:49:21,679 Speaker 1: then you tap my Ways and then there's a little 2127 01:49:21,760 --> 01:49:25,120 Speaker 1: power button. You press that power button, it goes into 2128 01:49:25,240 --> 01:49:28,720 Speaker 1: sleep mode. It says Ways is currently inactive, you are 2129 01:49:28,760 --> 01:49:33,240 Speaker 1: not using battery, contributing data, or earning points, and then 2130 01:49:33,280 --> 01:49:35,720 Speaker 1: you have to tap wake up. But otherwise, as far 2131 01:49:35,760 --> 01:49:37,679 Speaker 1: as I know, it's pretty much always running. I don't 2132 01:49:37,720 --> 01:49:39,479 Speaker 1: know how much on the iPhone. It's allowed to do 2133 01:49:39,560 --> 01:49:42,439 Speaker 1: in the background all the time, so it may end 2134 01:49:42,560 --> 01:49:45,479 Speaker 1: up stopping by itself at some point. But that's the 2135 01:49:45,560 --> 01:49:47,800 Speaker 1: best way I know of manually doing it, unless you 2136 01:49:47,960 --> 01:49:51,160 Speaker 1: just kind of force clothes. Like you said, not a 2137 01:49:51,200 --> 01:49:54,679 Speaker 1: perfect system, but that's how they kind of work. Let's see. 2138 01:49:55,000 --> 01:49:57,719 Speaker 1: Michael in Kentucky says, Hey, Rich, I love the show. 2139 01:49:57,800 --> 01:49:59,920 Speaker 1: Each week I listen to the podcast. I just want 2140 01:50:00,200 --> 01:50:03,120 Speaker 1: a chime in about your segment on juice jacking plugging 2141 01:50:03,200 --> 01:50:05,560 Speaker 1: into USB in the mall or airports. There was a 2142 01:50:05,640 --> 01:50:08,840 Speaker 1: show spin off from CSI called Cyber. There was an 2143 01:50:08,840 --> 01:50:12,000 Speaker 1: episode that featured someone stealing information and cloning phones when 2144 01:50:12,040 --> 01:50:16,040 Speaker 1: someone plugged into a place for a quick charge. The 2145 01:50:16,160 --> 01:50:18,639 Speaker 1: hackers used a router and portable hard drive to upload 2146 01:50:18,720 --> 01:50:21,240 Speaker 1: malware and download data from the phones. At the time 2147 01:50:21,360 --> 01:50:23,280 Speaker 1: this show was out, phones were not as secure as 2148 01:50:23,320 --> 01:50:25,080 Speaker 1: they are now, but I'm sure it could happen today. 2149 01:50:25,600 --> 01:50:27,680 Speaker 1: Thanks and keep up the great job. I'm still tech 2150 01:50:27,720 --> 01:50:30,519 Speaker 1: support for my friends and family. Yes, I think phones 2151 01:50:30,520 --> 01:50:33,120 Speaker 1: are more secure now than they were. And finally, Sally says, 2152 01:50:33,160 --> 01:50:34,800 Speaker 1: thanks Rich for the heads up on the drop cam 2153 01:50:34,920 --> 01:50:38,599 Speaker 1: slash Google update. FYI, they only provide you with two 2154 01:50:38,760 --> 01:50:42,200 Speaker 1: replacement cams. I had four drop cams, but now I'm 2155 01:50:42,240 --> 01:50:44,920 Speaker 1: listening to your show, I have two replacement cameras. 2156 01:50:45,040 --> 01:50:46,320 Speaker 2: I love the show. Rich. 2157 01:50:46,760 --> 01:50:50,240 Speaker 1: Thank you, sal Well, that's going to do it. I'm 2158 01:50:50,320 --> 01:50:53,160 Speaker 1: Rich Damiro. Thanks so much for listening to the show. 2159 01:50:55,040 --> 01:50:57,720 Speaker 1: So many ways you can spend your time. I really 2160 01:50:57,760 --> 01:51:00,320 Speaker 1: do appreciate you spending it here with me every week. 2161 01:51:00,800 --> 01:51:03,400 Speaker 1: I love the emails. I am just flooded with them 2162 01:51:03,479 --> 01:51:06,240 Speaker 1: every week. You have no idea. Like I thought doing 2163 01:51:06,280 --> 01:51:09,680 Speaker 1: a radio show would mean less emails because people would say, oh, 2164 01:51:10,240 --> 01:51:12,439 Speaker 1: Rich is you know he's doing the show, so I 2165 01:51:12,479 --> 01:51:14,160 Speaker 1: can just call him. But no, you're emailing me, which 2166 01:51:14,200 --> 01:51:17,960 Speaker 1: is great. Hello at richontech dot TV is Reagan. Find 2167 01:51:18,000 --> 01:51:20,400 Speaker 1: me on email at rich on tech is Reagan find 2168 01:51:20,479 --> 01:51:23,840 Speaker 1: me everywhere else. Thank you so much for listening. Thanks 2169 01:51:24,040 --> 01:51:27,479 Speaker 1: Kim for the phones, Thanks Bobo for the board. I'll 2170 01:51:27,520 --> 01:51:28,280 Speaker 1: see you next week. 2171 01:51:29,640 --> 01:51:30,040 Speaker 2: Take care,