1 00:00:06,600 --> 00:00:11,000 Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome to Strange Encounters. My name is Rick Burgess. 2 00:00:11,119 --> 00:00:14,240 Speaker 1: I host the Rick Burgess Show. That is a daily 3 00:00:14,480 --> 00:00:16,920 Speaker 1: radio show that you can find out all those details 4 00:00:16,960 --> 00:00:22,240 Speaker 1: by going to rickburgesshow dot com. Strange Encounters is a 5 00:00:22,239 --> 00:00:25,919 Speaker 1: brand new podcast and our goal here on this podcast 6 00:00:26,040 --> 00:00:30,080 Speaker 1: is to be educated on spiritual warfare. If you missed 7 00:00:30,120 --> 00:00:33,960 Speaker 1: episode one, we really laid out the foundation of why 8 00:00:34,040 --> 00:00:38,279 Speaker 1: we're here and what we intend to accomplish, So if 9 00:00:38,320 --> 00:00:41,559 Speaker 1: you miss that, go catch it. Also, don't forget to 10 00:00:41,560 --> 00:00:46,400 Speaker 1: subscribe to this podcast to share this podcast with others. 11 00:00:46,479 --> 00:00:48,360 Speaker 1: So if you want to tell someone what to do, 12 00:00:48,440 --> 00:00:50,560 Speaker 1: you just go to wherever you get podcasts and you 13 00:00:50,720 --> 00:00:55,240 Speaker 1: just search for Strange Encounters. We are going to start 14 00:00:55,480 --> 00:01:01,120 Speaker 1: this episode with a guest. Blake Prime is our guest. 15 00:01:01,240 --> 00:01:05,280 Speaker 1: Blake and I actually teach the Bible to a small 16 00:01:05,280 --> 00:01:10,119 Speaker 1: group every every Sunday. We rotate at our local church. 17 00:01:10,319 --> 00:01:14,600 Speaker 1: And when we started talking about the topic of Strange Encounters, 18 00:01:15,440 --> 00:01:18,360 Speaker 1: Blake and I have had a conversation about his experience 19 00:01:19,280 --> 00:01:23,399 Speaker 1: with spiritual warfare within his own home and so Blake 20 00:01:23,440 --> 00:01:26,240 Speaker 1: Prime joins us. Now, Blake, welcome to Strange Encounters. 21 00:01:26,360 --> 00:01:27,600 Speaker 2: Thank you. It's a pleasure to be here. 22 00:01:27,680 --> 00:01:29,880 Speaker 1: Rick. So this is one of those things we talked 23 00:01:29,920 --> 00:01:33,920 Speaker 1: about last week. We're looking for ballots. We need to 24 00:01:33,959 --> 00:01:37,399 Speaker 1: be very aware of spiritual warfare because it is real. 25 00:01:38,680 --> 00:01:42,360 Speaker 1: We don't need to obsess over spiritual warfare like looking 26 00:01:42,440 --> 00:01:47,920 Speaker 1: for demons and Lucifer around every corner. That that's not 27 00:01:48,080 --> 00:01:52,040 Speaker 1: healthy either. We need to know the foundational Word of 28 00:01:52,080 --> 00:01:56,360 Speaker 1: God to be able to detect and discern when we're 29 00:01:56,360 --> 00:02:02,440 Speaker 1: being lied to by false teachers under the influence of demons. 30 00:02:03,280 --> 00:02:06,760 Speaker 1: But we certainly have to acknowledge that that it happens 31 00:02:07,360 --> 00:02:10,640 Speaker 1: and it is real. And you know this because you 32 00:02:10,720 --> 00:02:12,919 Speaker 1: have experienced it firsthand. 33 00:02:12,560 --> 00:02:15,400 Speaker 2: Firsthand and want to jump right into it. 34 00:02:15,480 --> 00:02:19,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, So tell the audience about your family and kind 35 00:02:19,880 --> 00:02:21,000 Speaker 1: of what happened. 36 00:02:21,160 --> 00:02:23,720 Speaker 3: Right, So, I have three children. I've got a son 37 00:02:23,760 --> 00:02:26,639 Speaker 3: who's fourteen, Colt, and then I've got two daughters, Bryce, 38 00:02:27,040 --> 00:02:30,840 Speaker 3: who is twelve, and then Laine, who this whole spiritual 39 00:02:30,840 --> 00:02:33,440 Speaker 3: warfare conjecture is going to be talking about. But she 40 00:02:33,760 --> 00:02:36,320 Speaker 3: is soon to be ten, So she's nine now. But 41 00:02:36,720 --> 00:02:42,000 Speaker 3: so Laane a few years back started experiencing pretty significant 42 00:02:42,000 --> 00:02:45,799 Speaker 3: and crippling I would say anxiety and these attacks. Would 43 00:02:47,600 --> 00:02:50,760 Speaker 3: you know, to be honest, I think her first experience 44 00:02:50,919 --> 00:02:53,520 Speaker 3: with a death in the family and being around death 45 00:02:54,440 --> 00:02:57,760 Speaker 3: opened up her eyes to you know, something she'd. 46 00:02:57,639 --> 00:02:59,680 Speaker 2: Never been put in front of in front of her before. 47 00:02:59,720 --> 00:03:02,800 Speaker 3: And so from that moment on, questions started coming about, 48 00:03:02,880 --> 00:03:06,840 Speaker 3: and then you started seeing worries and fears and things 49 00:03:06,880 --> 00:03:07,280 Speaker 3: of that. 50 00:03:07,280 --> 00:03:08,400 Speaker 2: Nature started to take over. 51 00:03:09,560 --> 00:03:13,959 Speaker 3: And as the anxiety started to become more prominent in 52 00:03:14,000 --> 00:03:16,720 Speaker 3: her life, you know, we were searching franchis or where 53 00:03:16,720 --> 00:03:20,279 Speaker 3: do we go from here? And it kind of subsided 54 00:03:21,320 --> 00:03:24,239 Speaker 3: briefly for a brief moment. And then my oldest daughter, 55 00:03:24,320 --> 00:03:27,960 Speaker 3: Bryce was diagnosed with type one diabetes and they're in 56 00:03:28,200 --> 00:03:31,720 Speaker 3: the doctor's office when the doctor came in and said, hey, 57 00:03:31,760 --> 00:03:34,560 Speaker 3: it is type one, and we were kind of shocked 58 00:03:34,560 --> 00:03:37,320 Speaker 3: and startled, and my daughter said, no idea what type 59 00:03:37,320 --> 00:03:40,240 Speaker 3: one diabetes was. They just heard the doctor give you 60 00:03:40,240 --> 00:03:43,040 Speaker 3: know something and that we reacted unfavorably to it, and 61 00:03:43,080 --> 00:03:45,600 Speaker 3: so at that moment was another It was a trigger 62 00:03:45,640 --> 00:03:47,640 Speaker 3: point for we had made some headway with the anxiety. 63 00:03:47,720 --> 00:03:52,800 Speaker 3: That brought it back one hundredfold, and so I started 64 00:03:52,880 --> 00:03:56,840 Speaker 3: noticing that there was something very dark in just the 65 00:03:56,880 --> 00:04:00,160 Speaker 3: conversations that I was having with her around this topick 66 00:04:00,160 --> 00:04:02,040 Speaker 3: of anxiety that she was experiencing her life. And so 67 00:04:02,560 --> 00:04:04,560 Speaker 3: when you, as a father, are sitting there and your 68 00:04:04,640 --> 00:04:07,600 Speaker 3: daughter is saying things like, I don't recognize the person 69 00:04:07,640 --> 00:04:13,560 Speaker 3: that I am in these moments of attack. I can't 70 00:04:13,600 --> 00:04:16,599 Speaker 3: control my thoughts or my feelings. It's like it's not 71 00:04:16,760 --> 00:04:20,640 Speaker 3: me right. And then the one that really has stuck 72 00:04:20,680 --> 00:04:23,160 Speaker 3: with me was when she said, when I'm at school 73 00:04:23,480 --> 00:04:26,120 Speaker 3: and I'm on the playground, it's like I look out 74 00:04:26,160 --> 00:04:28,120 Speaker 3: and all my friends are in the light and I'm 75 00:04:28,160 --> 00:04:28,960 Speaker 3: stuck in the dark. 76 00:04:29,080 --> 00:04:29,479 Speaker 2: Wow. 77 00:04:29,600 --> 00:04:32,880 Speaker 3: And so that phrase immediately let me know that this 78 00:04:32,960 --> 00:04:35,960 Speaker 3: is spiritual. This is this is something beyond just an 79 00:04:36,000 --> 00:04:38,279 Speaker 3: emotion that she's going through a phase she's going through. 80 00:04:38,279 --> 00:04:41,120 Speaker 3: This is this is very evident of spiritual warfare. 81 00:04:41,800 --> 00:04:42,160 Speaker 2: And so. 82 00:04:43,800 --> 00:04:46,960 Speaker 3: Progressing through that, we started adopting through that we you know, 83 00:04:47,120 --> 00:04:49,680 Speaker 3: Joshua one not has become a just mission verse and 84 00:04:49,760 --> 00:04:51,520 Speaker 3: through our throw home and you know that, and so 85 00:04:51,720 --> 00:04:55,120 Speaker 3: trying to convey to her that we need to rely 86 00:04:55,400 --> 00:04:57,920 Speaker 3: on the words that God speaks when he says, hey, 87 00:04:57,960 --> 00:05:01,359 Speaker 3: be strong and courageous, you know, don't worry, don't be dismayed, 88 00:05:01,400 --> 00:05:03,080 Speaker 3: don't be frightened because. 89 00:05:02,760 --> 00:05:04,359 Speaker 2: Why because I'm with you wherever you go. 90 00:05:04,480 --> 00:05:06,600 Speaker 3: And so trying to speak that life and speak that 91 00:05:06,600 --> 00:05:09,760 Speaker 3: truth into her was a huge phrase that we would 92 00:05:09,760 --> 00:05:11,440 Speaker 3: say all the time, and if used a huge verse 93 00:05:11,480 --> 00:05:13,960 Speaker 3: that we would go to and we'd also use we're 94 00:05:14,000 --> 00:05:15,680 Speaker 3: a big We listened to a lot of Christian rap, 95 00:05:15,800 --> 00:05:19,160 Speaker 3: Christian rock, and so one of our favorite artists KB 96 00:05:19,560 --> 00:05:21,880 Speaker 3: came out of a song was not Today, Satan, and so 97 00:05:22,400 --> 00:05:25,000 Speaker 3: we would use that jokingly and halfway serious, like, hey, 98 00:05:25,000 --> 00:05:27,560 Speaker 3: not today, Satan, you can't touch me today. And we 99 00:05:27,600 --> 00:05:30,200 Speaker 3: would use that in context a lot. And then one 100 00:05:30,240 --> 00:05:34,159 Speaker 3: particular morning she was having a rough, rough go of it, 101 00:05:34,320 --> 00:05:37,279 Speaker 3: and knowing this, I said, hey, talk to my wife 102 00:05:37,320 --> 00:05:38,719 Speaker 3: wit and I said, let me take her to school, 103 00:05:39,160 --> 00:05:41,800 Speaker 3: and she lay. When I tell you that this was 104 00:05:41,839 --> 00:05:45,320 Speaker 3: on another level of attack, it was a twelve out 105 00:05:45,360 --> 00:05:45,640 Speaker 3: of ten. 106 00:05:45,800 --> 00:05:46,120 Speaker 1: Wow. 107 00:05:46,160 --> 00:05:50,880 Speaker 3: So as as we're in the truck driving to school, 108 00:05:51,000 --> 00:05:53,400 Speaker 3: and she is hysterical, and the things that I'm seeing 109 00:05:53,440 --> 00:05:59,080 Speaker 3: are completely panic driven. She is hyperventilating, hysterical, crying, and 110 00:05:59,080 --> 00:06:02,000 Speaker 3: then all of a sudden, she puts one hand on 111 00:06:02,760 --> 00:06:05,640 Speaker 3: the console, one hand on the door, and it's like 112 00:06:05,720 --> 00:06:08,360 Speaker 3: something takes over her body, and she pushes back into 113 00:06:08,360 --> 00:06:10,680 Speaker 3: the seat and her eyes are looking up and they 114 00:06:11,160 --> 00:06:14,119 Speaker 3: essentially a roll in the back of her head. And 115 00:06:14,240 --> 00:06:19,360 Speaker 3: she starts screaming, why is God abandoning me? And so 116 00:06:19,480 --> 00:06:22,279 Speaker 3: to hear my nine year old daughters say that it 117 00:06:22,360 --> 00:06:24,320 Speaker 3: was crippling, and so I pulled over on the side 118 00:06:24,320 --> 00:06:26,480 Speaker 3: of the road because I could tell that she was 119 00:06:26,600 --> 00:06:28,800 Speaker 3: under an attack because what I was looking at was 120 00:06:28,880 --> 00:06:31,039 Speaker 3: not my baby girl. 121 00:06:31,279 --> 00:06:33,680 Speaker 2: And she starts screaming. 122 00:06:33,720 --> 00:06:36,200 Speaker 3: And when I say screaming, she's literally screaming as loud 123 00:06:36,200 --> 00:06:39,880 Speaker 3: as she can. God doesn't love me. God doesn't love me. 124 00:06:40,200 --> 00:06:42,359 Speaker 3: Why won't he listen to me? Why won't he help me? 125 00:06:42,440 --> 00:06:45,240 Speaker 3: And so I just started speaking scripture over. I was 126 00:06:45,640 --> 00:06:48,160 Speaker 3: reciting Joshua one nine over and over again. 127 00:06:48,279 --> 00:06:49,320 Speaker 2: I was speaking life in her. 128 00:06:49,360 --> 00:06:52,640 Speaker 3: I was not jokingly saying not today, Satan. I was 129 00:06:52,760 --> 00:06:55,760 Speaker 3: very seriously not today, Saytan. I'm rebuking from you from 130 00:06:55,760 --> 00:06:59,840 Speaker 3: this child, right I am anymore like I've armored up 131 00:06:59,880 --> 00:07:02,520 Speaker 3: now and I'm going to war for my kid, and 132 00:07:03,480 --> 00:07:08,159 Speaker 3: so commanding him to leave, and she's screaming. I'm trying 133 00:07:08,160 --> 00:07:09,960 Speaker 3: to get her just to repeat after me, just to 134 00:07:10,040 --> 00:07:13,600 Speaker 3: speak scripture over her own life, and you know, she's saying, 135 00:07:13,720 --> 00:07:18,160 Speaker 3: I'm strong, I'm courageous, you know, not today God is 136 00:07:18,200 --> 00:07:20,560 Speaker 3: with me. And then she's like, he's not listening, and 137 00:07:20,720 --> 00:07:23,320 Speaker 3: just it's this is going on for five minutes or so. 138 00:07:24,000 --> 00:07:26,120 Speaker 3: And then when I tell you Rick, in an instant, 139 00:07:26,120 --> 00:07:30,800 Speaker 3: when I said, I rebuke you, evil spirit from this cart, 140 00:07:30,880 --> 00:07:33,360 Speaker 3: leave my daughter right now. She is no child of yours. 141 00:07:33,400 --> 00:07:35,840 Speaker 3: He is a child of the King. So she's a 142 00:07:35,920 --> 00:07:40,400 Speaker 3: child of Jesus, and he is in control of this situation. 143 00:07:40,120 --> 00:07:41,000 Speaker 2: Not you. 144 00:07:40,360 --> 00:07:43,680 Speaker 3: You have no authority here. And it was in that 145 00:07:43,880 --> 00:07:47,960 Speaker 3: instant that it went from Hurricane Gail force wind to 146 00:07:48,080 --> 00:07:50,960 Speaker 3: complete calm. She went from pushing in the back of 147 00:07:50,960 --> 00:07:53,160 Speaker 3: the she sat straight up. It was like a movie scene. 148 00:07:53,520 --> 00:07:56,680 Speaker 3: She sat straight up and it was just and she 149 00:07:56,720 --> 00:07:58,280 Speaker 3: looked at me she said, are we going to school? 150 00:07:58,840 --> 00:07:59,119 Speaker 2: Wow? 151 00:08:00,040 --> 00:08:03,720 Speaker 3: And so in that moment I paused and I said, sweetheart, 152 00:08:03,760 --> 00:08:05,280 Speaker 3: do you realize what just happened? 153 00:08:05,920 --> 00:08:09,440 Speaker 2: She said, what are you talking about? I said, well, we. 154 00:08:09,320 --> 00:08:11,400 Speaker 3: Just had a pretty strong attack that we were going 155 00:08:11,400 --> 00:08:13,840 Speaker 3: through in this car. And when I say that, I 156 00:08:13,880 --> 00:08:16,080 Speaker 3: mean she was hyper ventilating. She couldn't control their breath. 157 00:08:16,120 --> 00:08:18,400 Speaker 3: All of it was gone. She was breathing normally, the 158 00:08:18,520 --> 00:08:21,720 Speaker 3: tears stopped, her heart rate calmed down, and she was 159 00:08:21,760 --> 00:08:24,800 Speaker 3: speaking to me like she had just been resting. Her 160 00:08:24,840 --> 00:08:27,040 Speaker 3: resting heart rate was obviously there, and she was speaking 161 00:08:27,040 --> 00:08:28,840 Speaker 3: to me as calm as could be, as clear as 162 00:08:28,880 --> 00:08:30,760 Speaker 3: can be, and she said, I feel fine? Can we 163 00:08:30,840 --> 00:08:35,079 Speaker 3: just go to school? And so in that moment I 164 00:08:35,280 --> 00:08:37,240 Speaker 3: was witnessed. I think I called you pretty much right 165 00:08:37,240 --> 00:08:41,480 Speaker 3: after that. I said, Rick, I've seen the movies on 166 00:08:41,679 --> 00:08:45,120 Speaker 3: these exorcisms, you read in scriptures on casting out demons, 167 00:08:45,160 --> 00:08:47,560 Speaker 3: and it just happened. 168 00:08:48,880 --> 00:08:54,360 Speaker 1: So I can just since parents everywhere watching and listening 169 00:08:54,440 --> 00:08:59,000 Speaker 1: to this podcast, and they want us to go back 170 00:09:00,160 --> 00:09:03,199 Speaker 1: run through this again. So I'm gonna ask you some questions. Okay, 171 00:09:03,559 --> 00:09:05,599 Speaker 1: don't and if you've got more, you certainly tell, But 172 00:09:05,600 --> 00:09:07,720 Speaker 1: I'm gonna stop her to ask some questions. Did you 173 00:09:07,760 --> 00:09:11,000 Speaker 1: have any doubts at all? I know she's nine, and 174 00:09:11,040 --> 00:09:13,440 Speaker 1: so we know that we can come to Christ with 175 00:09:13,520 --> 00:09:17,120 Speaker 1: a childlike faith, but we all know sometimes we're examples 176 00:09:17,120 --> 00:09:20,040 Speaker 1: of this. You and I we believed in Jesus when 177 00:09:20,080 --> 00:09:24,040 Speaker 1: we were children, but we really weren't redeemed and justified 178 00:09:24,080 --> 00:09:26,920 Speaker 1: because we simply just had a demonic faith. We believed 179 00:09:26,960 --> 00:09:29,520 Speaker 1: the same things that demons believed about Jesus, and they 180 00:09:29,559 --> 00:09:32,599 Speaker 1: always get him right, by the way, because they absolutely know. 181 00:09:32,679 --> 00:09:34,560 Speaker 1: And we touched on that a little bit in episode one, 182 00:09:35,440 --> 00:09:38,760 Speaker 1: But it was there any doubt in your mind at 183 00:09:38,760 --> 00:09:43,840 Speaker 1: that point that Lanes was redeemed and justified by Jesus. 184 00:09:44,760 --> 00:09:47,520 Speaker 1: I know you don't now, but I'm talking about then. 185 00:09:48,720 --> 00:09:51,160 Speaker 3: I say no, you know, I was always one that 186 00:09:52,400 --> 00:09:56,600 Speaker 3: debated or had skepticism over children that stepped into the 187 00:09:56,600 --> 00:10:00,280 Speaker 3: faith right simply because they haven't experienced life. Then I 188 00:10:00,280 --> 00:10:02,760 Speaker 3: started realizing, you know, who am I to say that 189 00:10:02,880 --> 00:10:04,360 Speaker 3: our God isn't big enough too? 190 00:10:04,679 --> 00:10:05,040 Speaker 2: And so. 191 00:10:06,720 --> 00:10:14,199 Speaker 3: Watching Laine overcome these attacks through going to Jesus and 192 00:10:14,240 --> 00:10:18,520 Speaker 3: through claiming her victory in Christ is what was confirming 193 00:10:18,559 --> 00:10:20,840 Speaker 3: to me. And that's why I was battling for her 194 00:10:20,920 --> 00:10:23,200 Speaker 3: so hard, and I wanted her to hear it and 195 00:10:23,280 --> 00:10:27,440 Speaker 3: her to say it, because I knew that that demon 196 00:10:27,520 --> 00:10:29,240 Speaker 3: had no authority, right. 197 00:10:29,280 --> 00:10:32,520 Speaker 1: And I want to clarify something because last week's episode 198 00:10:33,000 --> 00:10:37,720 Speaker 1: we discussed Acts nineteen or the last episode, and we 199 00:10:37,800 --> 00:10:41,520 Speaker 1: saw men who were not redeemed by Jesus try to 200 00:10:41,600 --> 00:10:44,240 Speaker 1: use the name of Jesus and the demons did not 201 00:10:44,320 --> 00:10:47,720 Speaker 1: respond to them. They did acknowledge, they knew who Paul was, 202 00:10:48,800 --> 00:10:52,480 Speaker 1: who had been redeemed by Jesus. Now we see a 203 00:10:52,520 --> 00:10:55,680 Speaker 1: man who has been redeemed by Jesus using the name 204 00:10:55,679 --> 00:10:59,080 Speaker 1: of Jesus on behalf of his daughter, who you believe 205 00:10:59,760 --> 00:11:03,120 Speaker 1: Will was also redeemed. Because we're going to get into that, 206 00:11:03,160 --> 00:11:05,960 Speaker 1: because I can feel it. Everybody going, wait a minute, 207 00:11:06,760 --> 00:11:09,240 Speaker 1: I can be justified and redeemed and still have to 208 00:11:09,240 --> 00:11:12,679 Speaker 1: fight demons. And the answer is yes. And we can 209 00:11:12,800 --> 00:11:17,720 Speaker 1: quote examples from scripture the job story. Now God's in control, 210 00:11:17,880 --> 00:11:21,679 Speaker 1: God's set in the boundaries, but he's testing Job and 211 00:11:21,720 --> 00:11:25,600 Speaker 1: he's even telling Lucifer what he can and can't do. Okay, 212 00:11:25,880 --> 00:11:28,280 Speaker 1: we have the apostle Paul, we talked about this in 213 00:11:28,320 --> 00:11:32,160 Speaker 1: episode one, who says, this thorn in my flesh that 214 00:11:32,320 --> 00:11:36,000 Speaker 1: you gave me talking about God, and now a demon 215 00:11:36,559 --> 00:11:40,640 Speaker 1: is harassing me over this agony that I'm in, this 216 00:11:40,720 --> 00:11:44,600 Speaker 1: discomfort that I'm in. So there's examples of people that 217 00:11:44,679 --> 00:11:49,800 Speaker 1: were right with God but still can come under an attack. 218 00:11:49,840 --> 00:11:53,320 Speaker 1: Now they can't be I really don't believe, like I 219 00:11:53,320 --> 00:11:57,640 Speaker 1: think Lane, what there's an attempt on Lane but because 220 00:11:57,679 --> 00:11:59,640 Speaker 1: of the power of the name of Jesus in her 221 00:11:59,679 --> 00:12:02,559 Speaker 1: life and yours, it could not be accomplished. So I 222 00:12:02,640 --> 00:12:04,160 Speaker 1: kind of want to lay that groundwork because I know 223 00:12:04,200 --> 00:12:06,600 Speaker 1: those are the questions that are coming up. And I 224 00:12:06,640 --> 00:12:09,800 Speaker 1: had someone kind of misunderstand and episode one, because I 225 00:12:09,840 --> 00:12:12,559 Speaker 1: do look at your questions and you can email me 226 00:12:12,880 --> 00:12:16,720 Speaker 1: Rick at Burgessministries dot com. This episode may allow for 227 00:12:16,800 --> 00:12:19,320 Speaker 1: me to do one of the emails and I'll answer questions. 228 00:12:19,400 --> 00:12:22,920 Speaker 1: If you have questions, email me Rick at Burgessmanistries dot 229 00:12:22,920 --> 00:12:26,160 Speaker 1: com and we'll include those in podcasts, and of course 230 00:12:26,200 --> 00:12:28,880 Speaker 1: I'll try to answer you personally as well. And the 231 00:12:28,880 --> 00:12:31,320 Speaker 1: guy said, well, I don't understand. I thought a godless 232 00:12:31,320 --> 00:12:33,680 Speaker 1: person can call on the name of Jesus. Oh that's different. 233 00:12:34,120 --> 00:12:38,160 Speaker 1: Absolutely everybody who called on the name of Jesus at 234 00:12:38,160 --> 00:12:42,480 Speaker 1: one time was lost and godless. He hears that we're 235 00:12:42,480 --> 00:12:45,839 Speaker 1: talking about. If you don't, if you're not justified, you 236 00:12:45,880 --> 00:12:48,920 Speaker 1: can't the name of Jesus shouting it at demons. It 237 00:12:48,960 --> 00:12:51,400 Speaker 1: doesn't have any power because you don't belong to Jesus. 238 00:12:51,840 --> 00:12:55,560 Speaker 1: But yes, the name of Jesus saves the godless, and 239 00:12:55,600 --> 00:12:57,839 Speaker 1: God hears that when you call on the name of Jesus. 240 00:12:57,920 --> 00:13:01,760 Speaker 1: That's completely different. When you come away from this, you 241 00:13:01,880 --> 00:13:06,040 Speaker 1: saw the name of Jesus remove the evil spirit, you 242 00:13:06,120 --> 00:13:09,360 Speaker 1: have zero, zero doubt that you were dealing with an 243 00:13:09,400 --> 00:13:11,839 Speaker 1: evil spirit. I mean, what you're describing it seems pretty obvious, 244 00:13:11,880 --> 00:13:14,600 Speaker 1: but I just want you to answer for yourself. Pretty positive, right, 245 00:13:15,040 --> 00:13:17,400 Speaker 1: And so when you felt that supernatural peace and the 246 00:13:17,440 --> 00:13:21,160 Speaker 1: automobile and then she went to school, where did you 247 00:13:21,200 --> 00:13:21,800 Speaker 1: go from there? 248 00:13:23,160 --> 00:13:26,240 Speaker 3: I personally went to prayer and was just in a 249 00:13:26,280 --> 00:13:28,240 Speaker 3: time of thanks. I mean when I dropped her off, 250 00:13:28,360 --> 00:13:30,720 Speaker 3: To be honest, I broke down, Sure, it was. It 251 00:13:30,800 --> 00:13:33,880 Speaker 3: was pretty gut wrenching to you know, no father wants 252 00:13:33,880 --> 00:13:36,360 Speaker 3: to see their their child ever in a. 253 00:13:36,280 --> 00:13:37,640 Speaker 2: Time of distress like that. 254 00:13:38,200 --> 00:13:40,840 Speaker 3: And you know, this idea of spiritual warfare, it's almost 255 00:13:41,480 --> 00:13:43,120 Speaker 3: you know I was describing to her. I was like, 256 00:13:43,440 --> 00:13:47,160 Speaker 3: these these these evil spirits are like bullies, right they are. 257 00:13:47,440 --> 00:13:50,520 Speaker 2: They are trying to pick on people that they think 258 00:13:50,559 --> 00:13:51,240 Speaker 2: are vulnerable. 259 00:13:52,360 --> 00:13:54,800 Speaker 3: Young children can be definitely be prey in that in 260 00:13:54,840 --> 00:13:58,120 Speaker 3: that mindset, or knew people that are new to the faith, 261 00:13:58,880 --> 00:14:03,080 Speaker 3: which she was. And but to me, it's it's even 262 00:14:03,120 --> 00:14:05,080 Speaker 3: in a bully, right, The moment the big brother in 263 00:14:05,120 --> 00:14:06,520 Speaker 3: this case, the father shows. 264 00:14:06,320 --> 00:14:09,200 Speaker 2: Up, right, they back off. They're like, wow, I've. 265 00:14:09,040 --> 00:14:10,959 Speaker 3: Got I don't this is in a fight I want 266 00:14:10,960 --> 00:14:12,240 Speaker 3: to go into is I know I'm not going to win, 267 00:14:12,480 --> 00:14:15,000 Speaker 3: So they back off. And that's what I witness in 268 00:14:15,040 --> 00:14:17,520 Speaker 3: that in that space, and even going back to your 269 00:14:17,520 --> 00:14:21,560 Speaker 3: point on, you know, as redeemed, as redeemed individuals, can 270 00:14:21,600 --> 00:14:24,640 Speaker 3: we go under spiritual attack? And you say yes, because 271 00:14:25,040 --> 00:14:27,480 Speaker 3: that's the very reason why we see this Ephesian six 272 00:14:27,560 --> 00:14:29,720 Speaker 3: armor that were to put on every day, right and 273 00:14:29,840 --> 00:14:34,440 Speaker 3: the moment. Ever since that moment, I have used and 274 00:14:34,560 --> 00:14:37,400 Speaker 3: you know, one of our our good friends and pastor 275 00:14:37,400 --> 00:14:40,960 Speaker 3: at Validel, Barry Chesney, he told me, hey, you're gonna 276 00:14:40,960 --> 00:14:44,120 Speaker 3: have to start praying this Ephesian six armor, which is 277 00:14:44,120 --> 00:14:45,960 Speaker 3: what the back half of that scripture tells you to do, 278 00:14:46,120 --> 00:14:50,080 Speaker 3: to pray it over you daily and because we need 279 00:14:50,160 --> 00:14:52,120 Speaker 3: all that armor on for protection for the lies that 280 00:14:52,200 --> 00:14:53,960 Speaker 3: enemy's going to bring to us each and every day. 281 00:14:53,960 --> 00:14:57,480 Speaker 3: And so that has become a huge staple. And my 282 00:14:57,840 --> 00:15:00,840 Speaker 3: morning quiet time is praying the armor over myself and 283 00:15:00,880 --> 00:15:03,680 Speaker 3: then over my wife and then asking that my children 284 00:15:03,680 --> 00:15:05,120 Speaker 3: would be covered head to toe as well. 285 00:15:05,520 --> 00:15:08,520 Speaker 1: Do you think And I know we had this conversation 286 00:15:08,600 --> 00:15:10,360 Speaker 1: and this is going to be a future episode where 287 00:15:10,400 --> 00:15:14,040 Speaker 1: we'll spend the whole episode on this. Do you since 288 00:15:15,360 --> 00:15:17,160 Speaker 1: don't be offended by this because we all we all 289 00:15:17,160 --> 00:15:20,440 Speaker 1: make mistakes. Sure, could you go back into your home 290 00:15:20,680 --> 00:15:24,080 Speaker 1: and into your lives? Could you could you identify anything 291 00:15:24,640 --> 00:15:27,800 Speaker 1: that might have needed to be clean cleaned out and 292 00:15:27,840 --> 00:15:31,760 Speaker 1: removed from the home spiritual house cleaning? 293 00:15:32,000 --> 00:15:32,280 Speaker 2: Yes. 294 00:15:32,360 --> 00:15:35,040 Speaker 3: And I'd never even thought about the idea of spiritual 295 00:15:35,080 --> 00:15:38,520 Speaker 3: house cleaning until you know, you brought it up and 296 00:15:38,560 --> 00:15:42,440 Speaker 3: you questioned me on this, and there I look back 297 00:15:42,440 --> 00:15:44,240 Speaker 3: and there's so many things that we could have done 298 00:15:44,240 --> 00:15:46,240 Speaker 3: that we and that's not even just in that moment, 299 00:15:46,320 --> 00:15:49,880 Speaker 3: just over the years, right, the very simple stuff that 300 00:15:49,920 --> 00:15:52,880 Speaker 3: goes back to things like Halloween decorations, right when you 301 00:15:53,000 --> 00:15:55,720 Speaker 3: hang up witches and broomsticks and you know, stuff that 302 00:15:55,880 --> 00:15:59,080 Speaker 3: you know are commonly associated with that holiday or with 303 00:15:59,200 --> 00:16:02,760 Speaker 3: that day. You know what, that's the very premise around 304 00:16:02,840 --> 00:16:05,480 Speaker 3: that is an evil spirit? Or could it at least 305 00:16:05,480 --> 00:16:08,120 Speaker 3: invite it? In social media? 306 00:16:08,360 --> 00:16:08,560 Speaker 1: Right? 307 00:16:08,720 --> 00:16:11,200 Speaker 3: Or what what lane or what any of our children 308 00:16:11,240 --> 00:16:15,720 Speaker 3: are seeing on you know, the YouTube or the instagrams, 309 00:16:15,760 --> 00:16:18,760 Speaker 3: and you know having parameters there or just making sure 310 00:16:18,880 --> 00:16:22,960 Speaker 3: that there be they're not even listening to, you know, 311 00:16:23,000 --> 00:16:25,560 Speaker 3: some secular music, right, We try to really just bathe 312 00:16:25,560 --> 00:16:30,080 Speaker 3: them in Christian rock, Christian rap, Christian worship, you know, 313 00:16:30,200 --> 00:16:33,040 Speaker 3: things that can just keep their spirit just in line 314 00:16:33,040 --> 00:16:34,800 Speaker 3: where it needs to be at all times. 315 00:16:35,280 --> 00:16:38,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, and I know there's going to be some pushback 316 00:16:38,800 --> 00:16:41,920 Speaker 1: on this, and I'm not being legalistic about this, I'm 317 00:16:41,960 --> 00:16:49,560 Speaker 1: really not. I am astounded at how ignorant we can 318 00:16:49,600 --> 00:16:54,480 Speaker 1: be about Halloween. Yeah, guys, this Halloween thing, and in 319 00:16:54,560 --> 00:16:57,560 Speaker 1: our home, we we we we were, we were doing it. 320 00:16:57,600 --> 00:17:02,520 Speaker 1: For a while, we felt convicted that we needed to 321 00:17:02,680 --> 00:17:05,560 Speaker 1: stop doing it. Then you almost got that, well, we're 322 00:17:05,560 --> 00:17:07,960 Speaker 1: gonna do it, but we're gonna do it, and we're 323 00:17:08,000 --> 00:17:10,199 Speaker 1: going to be wise about how we do it, and 324 00:17:10,280 --> 00:17:12,399 Speaker 1: I will tell you in our home and these are 325 00:17:12,440 --> 00:17:18,640 Speaker 1: future episodes. For very obvious reasons, we made a decision 326 00:17:18,720 --> 00:17:20,600 Speaker 1: under the conviction of the Holy Spirit. We don't have 327 00:17:20,640 --> 00:17:25,200 Speaker 1: anything to do with Halloween. Nothing, And we have never 328 00:17:25,400 --> 00:17:27,720 Speaker 1: regretted it. There was never a time we let me 329 00:17:27,760 --> 00:17:29,359 Speaker 1: and go dog gone it. I wish we'd kept doing 330 00:17:29,400 --> 00:17:35,680 Speaker 1: Halloween because it's just so twisted and so difficult. When 331 00:17:35,680 --> 00:17:39,280 Speaker 1: I see little girls dressed up as witches, when I 332 00:17:39,320 --> 00:17:44,120 Speaker 1: see little boys dressed up as serial killers and goblins 333 00:17:44,160 --> 00:17:49,720 Speaker 1: and ghosts and all this stuff. This is extremely dangerous. 334 00:17:50,359 --> 00:17:53,119 Speaker 1: Taking your home and turning it into some kind of 335 00:17:53,200 --> 00:17:59,119 Speaker 1: haunted house. This is extremely dangerous because what you're doing 336 00:17:59,400 --> 00:18:03,720 Speaker 1: to these evil spirits, as you're saying, we invite you in, 337 00:18:04,840 --> 00:18:07,680 Speaker 1: and people go, well, let's just pretend. You know, now, 338 00:18:07,760 --> 00:18:12,960 Speaker 1: do I think that it's bad for a child to 339 00:18:13,160 --> 00:18:19,000 Speaker 1: dress up as a princess, to dress up as Buzz 340 00:18:19,080 --> 00:18:23,680 Speaker 1: light Year and go to a trunk retreat? I don't 341 00:18:24,320 --> 00:18:28,199 Speaker 1: a fall festival. But what I'm saying is, and you 342 00:18:28,359 --> 00:18:30,680 Speaker 1: might be able to walk those lines, and I would say, 343 00:18:30,680 --> 00:18:33,000 Speaker 1: make every effort to do so. And I know what 344 00:18:33,040 --> 00:18:35,399 Speaker 1: we do as parents. You're like, I hate to deny 345 00:18:35,520 --> 00:18:38,120 Speaker 1: my child something that all the other kids get to do. 346 00:18:38,680 --> 00:18:40,960 Speaker 1: But when you're sitting there praying for the Lord Jesus 347 00:18:41,119 --> 00:18:44,080 Speaker 1: to come in and defeat a demon that you've invited 348 00:18:44,119 --> 00:18:46,639 Speaker 1: into their life, you're gonna wish you didn't do it. Absolutely, 349 00:18:47,160 --> 00:18:52,280 Speaker 1: And it's extremely dangerous. It's already tough enough out there walking. 350 00:18:52,600 --> 00:18:56,000 Speaker 1: If we could see the war that is raging around 351 00:18:56,080 --> 00:18:59,679 Speaker 1: us every day, between angels and demons. Most of us 352 00:18:59,760 --> 00:19:03,080 Speaker 1: will never go to sleep again. Sure, okay, and it's 353 00:19:03,080 --> 00:19:06,000 Speaker 1: all around us and what we have to be. You 354 00:19:06,000 --> 00:19:08,240 Speaker 1: don't have to obsess over it, like I said, but 355 00:19:08,359 --> 00:19:11,800 Speaker 1: we need to be wise. You got to start thinking, 356 00:19:12,400 --> 00:19:15,320 Speaker 1: if I do this, I may see it as no 357 00:19:15,480 --> 00:19:17,720 Speaker 1: big deal. And the worst thing that could happen is 358 00:19:17,760 --> 00:19:21,520 Speaker 1: that demons could attack my family. It's not worth it. 359 00:19:22,119 --> 00:19:24,720 Speaker 1: I mean, is that some big sacrifice to say? My 360 00:19:24,840 --> 00:19:26,600 Speaker 1: kid never got to dress up as a witch and 361 00:19:27,119 --> 00:19:31,720 Speaker 1: cast pretend spells at a Harry Potter birthday party. My 362 00:19:31,800 --> 00:19:34,399 Speaker 1: kid never got to dress up like a serial killer 363 00:19:34,520 --> 00:19:37,479 Speaker 1: that was in horror movies. Never got to dress up 364 00:19:37,560 --> 00:19:40,600 Speaker 1: like a vampire, you know, some sort of monster, some 365 00:19:40,600 --> 00:19:44,320 Speaker 1: sort of goblin. All these crazy werewoof faces and this 366 00:19:44,400 --> 00:19:47,840 Speaker 1: wicked clown stuff. This kind of stuff is like taking 367 00:19:47,840 --> 00:19:51,040 Speaker 1: a megaphone and saying to the demons you are welcome here. 368 00:19:52,119 --> 00:19:55,720 Speaker 1: And it's very serious. And so you looked at you, 369 00:19:55,720 --> 00:19:57,680 Speaker 1: you look at some of those things and look, I'm 370 00:19:57,680 --> 00:20:00,680 Speaker 1: not saying that you I know your family, but when 371 00:20:00,720 --> 00:20:05,280 Speaker 1: something like this happens, you probably were thinking in your home, 372 00:20:05,960 --> 00:20:06,440 Speaker 1: we're good. 373 00:20:06,840 --> 00:20:09,480 Speaker 2: Right before before it happened one hundred percent. 374 00:20:09,600 --> 00:20:13,879 Speaker 3: And it just goes to show you that you can't 375 00:20:13,920 --> 00:20:15,840 Speaker 3: really let your guard down at any moment. 376 00:20:16,200 --> 00:20:16,360 Speaker 2: Right. 377 00:20:16,400 --> 00:20:20,080 Speaker 3: That's why the you know, the very active even you know, 378 00:20:20,160 --> 00:20:22,919 Speaker 3: strengthening our own walks so then we can lead effectively 379 00:20:22,960 --> 00:20:26,240 Speaker 3: and help, you know, are those that we have stewardship over, 380 00:20:26,359 --> 00:20:28,320 Speaker 3: you know, especially as men, right, we have stewardship over 381 00:20:28,359 --> 00:20:31,639 Speaker 3: our wives and our and our children. And it ultimately 382 00:20:31,680 --> 00:20:33,040 Speaker 3: I look at it's like, man, this is back, this 383 00:20:33,119 --> 00:20:36,000 Speaker 3: falls back on me, and so how can I do 384 00:20:36,160 --> 00:20:38,800 Speaker 3: better job of making sure that they're fully protected and 385 00:20:38,840 --> 00:20:42,119 Speaker 3: covered at all times? And so it's it really it 386 00:20:42,200 --> 00:20:45,400 Speaker 3: forced us to take a deeper look into our family worship, 387 00:20:45,520 --> 00:20:48,320 Speaker 3: how we went about our prayers, how we you know, 388 00:20:48,440 --> 00:20:50,480 Speaker 3: and not even just the prayer time, what we said 389 00:20:50,480 --> 00:20:53,719 Speaker 3: and what we spoke in our prayers, because you know, Lane, 390 00:20:53,800 --> 00:20:57,919 Speaker 3: she's still It's not that the anxiety has gone away, right, 391 00:20:58,040 --> 00:21:01,000 Speaker 3: it's just that we know how to battle it now. 392 00:21:02,240 --> 00:21:04,680 Speaker 3: And you know, a specific thing that lets you know 393 00:21:04,720 --> 00:21:08,639 Speaker 3: how powerful Jesus is, and I know you've alluded it 394 00:21:08,680 --> 00:21:10,920 Speaker 3: to you and it's like in other things that you've 395 00:21:10,960 --> 00:21:12,600 Speaker 3: talked about before, is just the. 396 00:21:12,480 --> 00:21:14,080 Speaker 2: Power of prayer and the power of. 397 00:21:14,040 --> 00:21:16,639 Speaker 3: Your sphere of influence and those that can come alongside 398 00:21:16,640 --> 00:21:20,880 Speaker 3: you in prayer. And you know, we've witnessed countless times 399 00:21:21,000 --> 00:21:23,640 Speaker 3: of an attack coming on her. 400 00:21:24,119 --> 00:21:24,359 Speaker 1: Yep. 401 00:21:24,440 --> 00:21:26,960 Speaker 3: And then I've got brothers that I'll go to and say, hey, 402 00:21:27,040 --> 00:21:28,639 Speaker 3: I need you to suit up right now, and I 403 00:21:28,680 --> 00:21:30,399 Speaker 3: need you to prayer, not later, but I need you 404 00:21:30,440 --> 00:21:32,040 Speaker 3: to pray in the moment, like it needs to happen 405 00:21:32,119 --> 00:21:36,200 Speaker 3: right now. And the response is praying immediately, or you know, 406 00:21:36,320 --> 00:21:39,119 Speaker 3: they start sending me like or calling and they're praying 407 00:21:39,160 --> 00:21:41,560 Speaker 3: out loud so that you know, Laine can hear it. 408 00:21:41,840 --> 00:21:43,639 Speaker 3: And I've seen it go away like in the moment, 409 00:21:43,680 --> 00:21:46,760 Speaker 3: not later. It's she's under attack. The prayers come in 410 00:21:47,640 --> 00:21:49,639 Speaker 3: and the prayers go away, I mean in the attack 411 00:21:49,680 --> 00:21:52,560 Speaker 3: goes away. And you know I saw her come home 412 00:21:52,640 --> 00:21:55,280 Speaker 3: and her she opens her backpack and dumps out all 413 00:21:55,320 --> 00:21:58,960 Speaker 3: these notes and they all say Jesus, Jesus, Jesus in 414 00:21:59,040 --> 00:22:01,720 Speaker 3: different references, be strong, be courageous. And I questioned your 415 00:22:01,720 --> 00:22:02,520 Speaker 3: I said, what are these? 416 00:22:02,920 --> 00:22:03,520 Speaker 2: What is all this? 417 00:22:03,640 --> 00:22:05,439 Speaker 3: It just likes a bunch of you know, notes that 418 00:22:05,480 --> 00:22:07,560 Speaker 3: she's doing on and she goes all the times I 419 00:22:07,600 --> 00:22:09,920 Speaker 3: feel like I'm under attack at school. I instantly just 420 00:22:09,960 --> 00:22:12,840 Speaker 3: start writing Jesus's name on the paper and it goes away. 421 00:22:13,320 --> 00:22:16,560 Speaker 1: Aymen, well, when you think about our children, think about 422 00:22:16,600 --> 00:22:20,119 Speaker 1: the analogy that Peter used. He said, we got to 423 00:22:20,160 --> 00:22:22,679 Speaker 1: be self controlled and we got to be alert. And 424 00:22:22,680 --> 00:22:26,280 Speaker 1: that alert part is where we we I've been guilty 425 00:22:26,320 --> 00:22:28,760 Speaker 1: of it. Sure, you got to be alert, And he 426 00:22:28,800 --> 00:22:33,119 Speaker 1: says why because the enemy, the devil, prowls around like 427 00:22:33,200 --> 00:22:37,720 Speaker 1: a roaring lion looking for someone to devour. Now, when 428 00:22:37,760 --> 00:22:41,080 Speaker 1: you if you this analogy that Peter's using, I want 429 00:22:41,119 --> 00:22:44,359 Speaker 1: you to think about what we know about predators in 430 00:22:44,680 --> 00:22:48,320 Speaker 1: the animal kingdom, and what do we know about them. 431 00:22:48,560 --> 00:22:52,400 Speaker 1: They're looking for the easiest kill because they themselves don't 432 00:22:52,400 --> 00:22:54,479 Speaker 1: want to get injured, because if a predator gets injured, 433 00:22:54,480 --> 00:22:57,880 Speaker 1: then now they're going to die. So when they when 434 00:22:57,920 --> 00:23:00,320 Speaker 1: they come upon the church, and they come upon the family, 435 00:23:00,359 --> 00:23:04,160 Speaker 1: and they come upon society, who do you think are 436 00:23:04,200 --> 00:23:07,399 Speaker 1: the most vulnerable for an attack from a predator? We 437 00:23:07,520 --> 00:23:11,080 Speaker 1: see this. Have you ever been watching an animal documentary 438 00:23:11,200 --> 00:23:14,040 Speaker 1: and you know when that anelope gives birth to that calf, 439 00:23:14,080 --> 00:23:18,879 Speaker 1: you're like, oh no, that that baby is not going 440 00:23:18,920 --> 00:23:21,240 Speaker 1: to get through this episode, and what did they say. 441 00:23:21,280 --> 00:23:24,000 Speaker 1: I could go after the male who has the big horns. 442 00:23:24,480 --> 00:23:26,920 Speaker 1: I could go after the female that just birth the child, 443 00:23:27,200 --> 00:23:29,240 Speaker 1: But I think you're probably easier to go get the child. 444 00:23:30,119 --> 00:23:33,159 Speaker 1: And when they don't have if the parents don't have 445 00:23:33,200 --> 00:23:36,440 Speaker 1: the ability to fight off the lion, they lose the kid. 446 00:23:37,600 --> 00:23:43,280 Speaker 1: And you have to understand that though children, as Christ 447 00:23:43,320 --> 00:23:47,920 Speaker 1: taught us, can have a tremendous faith, they are also 448 00:23:48,640 --> 00:23:54,320 Speaker 1: easy pickings for the adversary and the demons if they're 449 00:23:54,359 --> 00:23:57,240 Speaker 1: not under the authority of Jesus and they're not under 450 00:23:57,280 --> 00:24:02,040 Speaker 1: the authority of yes parents, Mom and Dad. But as 451 00:24:02,040 --> 00:24:06,560 Speaker 1: you pointed out, the head of the house not more 452 00:24:06,640 --> 00:24:09,879 Speaker 1: valuable than the wife. Men and women are equal, but 453 00:24:09,880 --> 00:24:13,040 Speaker 1: they have distinct roles, and there's a headship and a 454 00:24:13,080 --> 00:24:16,920 Speaker 1: spiritual leadership that God gave to the man at creation. 455 00:24:17,600 --> 00:24:21,040 Speaker 1: If you go to Genesis and you go to the deception, 456 00:24:21,119 --> 00:24:23,560 Speaker 1: which we covered in episode one, if you go to 457 00:24:23,600 --> 00:24:27,600 Speaker 1: that deception, when God shows up on the scene, he 458 00:24:27,640 --> 00:24:36,640 Speaker 1: does not address Eve. He addresses Adam. Adam, what's happened here? Now, 459 00:24:36,680 --> 00:24:38,639 Speaker 1: you say, well, Adam wasn't anywhere around with then you 460 00:24:38,680 --> 00:24:41,439 Speaker 1: don't know the scriptures. If you go and read the Fall, 461 00:24:41,600 --> 00:24:45,480 Speaker 1: it says that Eve gave the fruit and she said, hey, 462 00:24:45,480 --> 00:24:47,800 Speaker 1: it was great, and she gave it to her husband, 463 00:24:47,840 --> 00:24:53,840 Speaker 1: who was with her. So when God shows up, he 464 00:24:53,920 --> 00:24:57,520 Speaker 1: wants to ask Adam how he let this happen. He 465 00:24:57,560 --> 00:25:01,120 Speaker 1: never addresses Eve. Adam of course blames Eve and then 466 00:25:01,359 --> 00:25:03,680 Speaker 1: ultimately blames God because he said, you're the one who 467 00:25:03,720 --> 00:25:08,840 Speaker 1: created her. But God says to Adam, have y'all eaten 468 00:25:09,200 --> 00:25:13,560 Speaker 1: from the tree that I forbid you to eat from? Now? 469 00:25:13,560 --> 00:25:15,560 Speaker 1: Why is he asking Adam? Well, if you go back 470 00:25:15,600 --> 00:25:19,200 Speaker 1: to Genesis two and back to Genesis one, you find 471 00:25:19,240 --> 00:25:22,240 Speaker 1: out that Adam was told this before Eve was ever created. 472 00:25:22,600 --> 00:25:26,080 Speaker 1: It was his job to be sure that Eve knew 473 00:25:26,200 --> 00:25:28,359 Speaker 1: what they would and would not do, and it was 474 00:25:28,400 --> 00:25:31,000 Speaker 1: his job to protect his wife. And when she was 475 00:25:31,040 --> 00:25:35,040 Speaker 1: being tempted. I've heard I've heard Sherry talk about this. 476 00:25:35,119 --> 00:25:37,760 Speaker 1: She said, Eve shouldn't have been over goofing off away 477 00:25:37,760 --> 00:25:40,040 Speaker 1: from her husband, and her husband, you know, should have 478 00:25:40,040 --> 00:25:42,000 Speaker 1: come in there and been standing there and saying, don't 479 00:25:42,040 --> 00:25:43,919 Speaker 1: ever try to deceive my wife, and you should have 480 00:25:43,960 --> 00:25:47,000 Speaker 1: tried to kill the serpent. But what we found is 481 00:25:47,400 --> 00:25:50,280 Speaker 1: she was not ready for is that what God really said. 482 00:25:50,320 --> 00:25:52,880 Speaker 1: We talked about that in episode one, and Adam did 483 00:25:52,880 --> 00:25:55,159 Speaker 1: not step in with his headship and say, I know 484 00:25:55,240 --> 00:25:57,159 Speaker 1: what God said that we're not to do. I know 485 00:25:57,280 --> 00:25:59,800 Speaker 1: God said, we don't eat from this tree, and we're 486 00:25:59,840 --> 00:26:03,600 Speaker 1: not going to. And what we have is like we have. 487 00:26:05,160 --> 00:26:09,040 Speaker 1: I've talked, we've interviewed multiple people that go in and 488 00:26:09,119 --> 00:26:11,960 Speaker 1: rescue children from the sex trade. And I hate to 489 00:26:11,960 --> 00:26:13,920 Speaker 1: even bring that up because it's so dark and twisted. 490 00:26:14,119 --> 00:26:18,359 Speaker 1: If you don't think that's just demons and demonic activity 491 00:26:18,640 --> 00:26:23,480 Speaker 1: to the highest level, how grotesque that is. And he 492 00:26:23,560 --> 00:26:28,919 Speaker 1: says back to predators, these people that still children and 493 00:26:28,960 --> 00:26:32,080 Speaker 1: put them into the sex trade, are they deceive people 494 00:26:32,600 --> 00:26:35,200 Speaker 1: to give them their children? The one thing they look 495 00:26:35,280 --> 00:26:39,119 Speaker 1: for is a family that has no dad, true, and 496 00:26:39,160 --> 00:26:41,160 Speaker 1: if that child didn't have the protection of a dad, 497 00:26:42,320 --> 00:26:46,360 Speaker 1: that's the first ones they go after. And so when 498 00:26:46,400 --> 00:26:51,240 Speaker 1: we farm out this spiritual leadership and we neglect it, 499 00:26:50,720 --> 00:26:54,680 Speaker 1: we're not just putting ourselves in danger in this war. 500 00:26:55,240 --> 00:26:57,440 Speaker 1: We're not just putting our wives in danger. We're putting 501 00:26:57,440 --> 00:26:59,000 Speaker 1: our children in danger. 502 00:26:59,600 --> 00:27:03,159 Speaker 3: And I think one thing that it really forced me 503 00:27:03,359 --> 00:27:07,119 Speaker 3: to take a hard look at how connected I was 504 00:27:07,480 --> 00:27:10,639 Speaker 3: to the vine right and how good, how how well 505 00:27:10,720 --> 00:27:16,320 Speaker 3: I was then, you know, trying to shepherd those that 506 00:27:16,359 --> 00:27:19,280 Speaker 3: God had given me stewardship over and was I doing 507 00:27:19,280 --> 00:27:22,960 Speaker 3: a good enough job protecting them, leading them under the 508 00:27:22,960 --> 00:27:26,640 Speaker 3: authority of Christ. And one thing that a mentor, Steve 509 00:27:26,680 --> 00:27:30,679 Speaker 3: Weatherford helped me create for myself was an identity statement. 510 00:27:30,720 --> 00:27:33,399 Speaker 3: And I am statement under the authority of Christ. And 511 00:27:33,400 --> 00:27:35,679 Speaker 3: if I already introduced myself with that I am statement, 512 00:27:35,680 --> 00:27:38,400 Speaker 3: I would say my name is Blake Prime, and I'm 513 00:27:38,400 --> 00:27:40,800 Speaker 3: a man who is all in for Jesus Christ. And 514 00:27:40,840 --> 00:27:43,840 Speaker 3: I'm an unashamed warrior who walks with integrity, strength and 515 00:27:43,920 --> 00:27:47,600 Speaker 3: courage for my King. And so I helped Lain in 516 00:27:47,640 --> 00:27:50,520 Speaker 3: the moment. I said, hey, this has helped me a ton. 517 00:27:50,800 --> 00:27:54,439 Speaker 3: Just identify and always remember and these core values that 518 00:27:54,480 --> 00:27:57,439 Speaker 3: are in my statement bring it back to center. This 519 00:27:57,480 --> 00:27:59,760 Speaker 3: is who I want to represent under the authority of Jesus. 520 00:28:00,200 --> 00:28:01,840 Speaker 3: And I hope when people look at me that's what 521 00:28:01,840 --> 00:28:05,040 Speaker 3: they're seeing, not Blake, but they're seeing these characteristics as 522 00:28:05,320 --> 00:28:08,800 Speaker 3: Jesus sees them. And so that's what she does. And 523 00:28:09,240 --> 00:28:11,040 Speaker 3: we came up with She came up with one. And 524 00:28:11,119 --> 00:28:14,359 Speaker 3: if I'm correct, it's you know. My name is Laine, 525 00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:16,400 Speaker 3: and I'm a princess of my King. 526 00:28:16,760 --> 00:28:17,160 Speaker 1: Amen. 527 00:28:17,359 --> 00:28:20,720 Speaker 3: And then she says, and I walk with strength, and 528 00:28:20,760 --> 00:28:23,119 Speaker 3: I walk with courage back to our Joshua one nine. 529 00:28:23,280 --> 00:28:25,679 Speaker 3: And she said, because my God promises to be with 530 00:28:25,760 --> 00:28:29,040 Speaker 3: me everywhere I go. And so I have witnessed her 531 00:28:29,200 --> 00:28:34,200 Speaker 3: in times of distress, just crying out her identity statement right, 532 00:28:34,240 --> 00:28:38,480 Speaker 3: and just reminding herself, but ultimately reminding any spirit that's 533 00:28:38,480 --> 00:28:41,960 Speaker 3: around her, I'm not yours, I'm his. I'm a princess 534 00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:43,440 Speaker 3: of my King. So get out of here. 535 00:28:44,240 --> 00:28:46,080 Speaker 1: And I want to give you an analogy what Blake's 536 00:28:46,120 --> 00:28:49,840 Speaker 1: talking about, what we're talking about is, and this was 537 00:28:49,880 --> 00:28:52,240 Speaker 1: episode one. We tried to lay this down and we 538 00:28:52,280 --> 00:28:57,480 Speaker 1: hope we accomplish with this podcast. You don't have the 539 00:28:57,560 --> 00:29:00,280 Speaker 1: option to say, well, I know there's a spirit virtual 540 00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:03,640 Speaker 1: war that wages, that rages and wages all around me, 541 00:29:04,120 --> 00:29:06,720 Speaker 1: but I don't want to get involved in that. I'm 542 00:29:06,800 --> 00:29:09,200 Speaker 1: gonna take the option of I'm not going to participate 543 00:29:09,240 --> 00:29:13,560 Speaker 1: in the war. You're in the war. You're in it. 544 00:29:14,080 --> 00:29:16,239 Speaker 1: The question is do you know how to fight it? 545 00:29:17,160 --> 00:29:20,400 Speaker 1: And so it's like saying, I hope my house never 546 00:29:20,440 --> 00:29:23,200 Speaker 1: catches on fire. So I'm not gonna have any fire extinguishers, 547 00:29:23,440 --> 00:29:25,800 Speaker 1: and I'm not gonna have any system in my house, 548 00:29:25,880 --> 00:29:29,640 Speaker 1: any kind of water or anything, because I'm just gonna 549 00:29:29,840 --> 00:29:32,120 Speaker 1: go ahead and say I don't think my house is 550 00:29:32,120 --> 00:29:34,600 Speaker 1: ever going to catch on fire. Well, you know what 551 00:29:35,200 --> 00:29:36,760 Speaker 1: the good news is, you don't have to go to 552 00:29:36,800 --> 00:29:39,000 Speaker 1: bed every night thinking your house is gonna catch on fire. 553 00:29:39,560 --> 00:29:41,600 Speaker 1: But what what you need to do is say, but 554 00:29:41,640 --> 00:29:45,040 Speaker 1: in case it does, I have everything I need to 555 00:29:45,040 --> 00:29:49,520 Speaker 1: put the fire out, Because, as you just heard, here's 556 00:29:49,640 --> 00:29:53,840 Speaker 1: a family of God, certainly in the sanctification process, working 557 00:29:53,880 --> 00:29:56,760 Speaker 1: it out. And you didn't want to be involved in 558 00:29:56,800 --> 00:30:00,080 Speaker 1: the spiritual war, but you didn't have a choice. So 559 00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:02,840 Speaker 1: when the spiritual war came to your home, you knew 560 00:30:02,840 --> 00:30:06,239 Speaker 1: what to do, you know. But but but on the 561 00:30:06,280 --> 00:30:08,600 Speaker 1: second part, I want to ask you, how did you 562 00:30:08,680 --> 00:30:12,600 Speaker 1: address after something so traumatic. Hey, we're not going to 563 00:30:12,640 --> 00:30:14,680 Speaker 1: be afraid anymore, and we're not going to live our 564 00:30:14,720 --> 00:30:17,840 Speaker 1: lives since we're called in scripture not to we're not 565 00:30:17,920 --> 00:30:20,840 Speaker 1: called to a spirit of fear. How did you address 566 00:30:20,960 --> 00:30:24,120 Speaker 1: now how your life moves forward after such an event. 567 00:30:25,120 --> 00:30:27,000 Speaker 3: I think it was just a good time to reflect 568 00:30:27,280 --> 00:30:30,280 Speaker 3: and it opened up a really good avenue of conversation 569 00:30:30,360 --> 00:30:33,440 Speaker 3: for our entire family. And you know, you addressed we're 570 00:30:33,440 --> 00:30:35,080 Speaker 3: not to call to have a spirit of fear, but 571 00:30:35,160 --> 00:30:36,800 Speaker 3: you know the second that the next burt of that 572 00:30:36,920 --> 00:30:39,600 Speaker 3: verse is like, but it's a spirit of it's power, 573 00:30:39,840 --> 00:30:42,720 Speaker 3: right right, And so it it opened up the opportunity 574 00:30:42,760 --> 00:30:45,640 Speaker 3: for us to say, hey, guys, this is real and 575 00:30:45,680 --> 00:30:48,520 Speaker 3: spiritual warfare is real, real, and so if you don't 576 00:30:48,560 --> 00:30:50,040 Speaker 3: think it, or if you, like you said, if you 577 00:30:50,080 --> 00:30:53,360 Speaker 3: are under the mindset of well, because we love Jesus, 578 00:30:53,360 --> 00:30:55,120 Speaker 3: we're just good and we just kind of coast through 579 00:30:55,120 --> 00:30:59,520 Speaker 3: life now, then we're sadly mistaken because that narrow road 580 00:30:59,600 --> 00:31:01,480 Speaker 3: that we talk about it Matthew seven, that says, hey, 581 00:31:01,520 --> 00:31:03,600 Speaker 3: it's a difficult path, and only if you are going 582 00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:05,000 Speaker 3: to find it, if you're going to be one of 583 00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:07,719 Speaker 3: those few, you're going to walk through some difficult things. 584 00:31:07,880 --> 00:31:09,840 Speaker 3: And part of those difficult things is going to be 585 00:31:11,120 --> 00:31:13,120 Speaker 3: slip ups, it's going to be attacks, it's going to 586 00:31:13,160 --> 00:31:16,600 Speaker 3: be you know, different trials and tribulations that we come under. 587 00:31:16,680 --> 00:31:20,520 Speaker 3: And in those times, if you aren't ready for battle, 588 00:31:20,560 --> 00:31:23,640 Speaker 3: if you haven't equipped yourself with the knowledge of who 589 00:31:23,680 --> 00:31:25,680 Speaker 3: God is, what he said, who he says he is, 590 00:31:25,680 --> 00:31:27,320 Speaker 3: what he said he's done, and believe that that is 591 00:31:27,360 --> 00:31:32,200 Speaker 3: true and that is your focus forward. Then you're inviting 592 00:31:32,240 --> 00:31:35,680 Speaker 3: yourself in to just really just fall by the wayside 593 00:31:35,680 --> 00:31:37,520 Speaker 3: and to become either stagnant in your walk, you know. 594 00:31:37,600 --> 00:31:40,040 Speaker 3: And we had a good chance to talk about like 595 00:31:40,080 --> 00:31:42,720 Speaker 3: we can't let this be a moment or instance like 596 00:31:42,760 --> 00:31:44,360 Speaker 3: this be moments that cause us to just go to 597 00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:47,040 Speaker 3: the sidelines, because we can never just sit back and 598 00:31:47,160 --> 00:31:50,880 Speaker 3: just and just do nothing right. We're called to constantly advance, 599 00:31:50,960 --> 00:31:54,840 Speaker 3: constantly move forward, and we walk in the authority of Christ. 600 00:31:55,000 --> 00:31:58,080 Speaker 3: And so it's going to be a rallying cry, I 601 00:31:58,120 --> 00:31:59,960 Speaker 3: mean all of us to see, I mean I've seen 602 00:32:00,720 --> 00:32:03,600 Speaker 3: attack that Laine has gone under, and to look around 603 00:32:03,720 --> 00:32:06,080 Speaker 3: and to see her brother, and to see her sister 604 00:32:06,200 --> 00:32:09,040 Speaker 3: and her mother and myself laying hands on her and 605 00:32:09,120 --> 00:32:13,560 Speaker 3: going to prayer over her, on her behalf through Jesus, 606 00:32:13,600 --> 00:32:16,440 Speaker 3: and to watch it go away in the moment, it 607 00:32:16,600 --> 00:32:20,720 Speaker 3: just shows you that while the enemy has authority here 608 00:32:20,760 --> 00:32:23,360 Speaker 3: on earth, they're not the supremau thorry. They've been defeated, right, 609 00:32:23,760 --> 00:32:26,720 Speaker 3: And so that's the ultimate reminder and I said, Hey, guys, 610 00:32:27,360 --> 00:32:30,640 Speaker 3: have no fear that the enemy is ever gonna hurt. 611 00:32:30,680 --> 00:32:32,560 Speaker 3: Is he gonna try to trip you up? 612 00:32:32,640 --> 00:32:32,880 Speaker 2: Sure? 613 00:32:33,280 --> 00:32:36,400 Speaker 3: Are we gonna make mistakes, Sure are we gonna have stumbles, Yes, 614 00:32:38,040 --> 00:32:39,400 Speaker 3: but we can always advance forward. 615 00:32:39,920 --> 00:32:43,560 Speaker 1: So let's run the list. You you cover your family 616 00:32:43,600 --> 00:32:47,520 Speaker 1: in prayer. Okay, you called on the name of Jesus 617 00:32:47,560 --> 00:32:50,160 Speaker 1: and rebuked an evil spirit that was trying to attack 618 00:32:50,200 --> 00:32:53,960 Speaker 1: your daughter. Right, you did spiritual house cleaning. Let's go 619 00:32:54,080 --> 00:32:56,760 Speaker 1: through our home and listen if for anything that we 620 00:32:56,840 --> 00:33:00,440 Speaker 1: may be allowing that is giving an invitation to evil 621 00:33:00,480 --> 00:33:03,680 Speaker 1: spirits to come into our family. Right. And then you 622 00:33:03,720 --> 00:33:07,440 Speaker 1: sat down afterward and you said, now going forward, we 623 00:33:07,520 --> 00:33:09,960 Speaker 1: saw the power of Jesus, so we do not live 624 00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:10,480 Speaker 1: in fear. 625 00:33:10,800 --> 00:33:11,000 Speaker 2: Right. 626 00:33:11,560 --> 00:33:13,360 Speaker 1: And is that basically the steps that you went. 627 00:33:13,280 --> 00:33:15,120 Speaker 2: Through exactly the steps. 628 00:33:15,120 --> 00:33:17,080 Speaker 3: And I think there's one more thing that I would 629 00:33:17,120 --> 00:33:20,120 Speaker 3: add that we haven't done yet. Okay, but under your 630 00:33:20,160 --> 00:33:24,400 Speaker 3: guidance is even sometimes we you know, even just as individuals, 631 00:33:24,400 --> 00:33:25,960 Speaker 3: you know, we're flawed, so we might have blind spots 632 00:33:25,960 --> 00:33:27,760 Speaker 3: of things that we just don't see, right, Yeah, right, 633 00:33:27,840 --> 00:33:31,360 Speaker 3: So I would recommend that people. It's why it's really 634 00:33:31,360 --> 00:33:33,760 Speaker 3: important to have a sphere of it, like your circle 635 00:33:33,800 --> 00:33:36,000 Speaker 3: of you know, your brothers or sisters that you really 636 00:33:36,080 --> 00:33:40,000 Speaker 3: rally around. You know that they are strong in their walk, 637 00:33:40,040 --> 00:33:42,200 Speaker 3: if not stronger than you are, so they can come 638 00:33:42,240 --> 00:33:45,280 Speaker 3: alongside you in your walk and say point out things 639 00:33:45,320 --> 00:33:45,960 Speaker 3: of concern. 640 00:33:46,320 --> 00:33:46,480 Speaker 2: Right. 641 00:33:46,520 --> 00:33:49,840 Speaker 3: So having someone like yourself or other brothers walk through 642 00:33:49,880 --> 00:33:52,800 Speaker 3: my house right and look for signs, I think is 643 00:33:52,800 --> 00:33:54,120 Speaker 3: going to be the next step. And you and I 644 00:33:54,120 --> 00:33:55,640 Speaker 3: have talked about that doing it in my own home 645 00:33:55,760 --> 00:33:58,440 Speaker 3: just because you know, even after you've done all the 646 00:33:58,480 --> 00:34:01,000 Speaker 3: measures and you've got all the failed say, someone might 647 00:34:01,040 --> 00:34:02,680 Speaker 3: walk in and be like, hey, did you notice that 648 00:34:02,720 --> 00:34:05,320 Speaker 3: fire has it over there? I didn't see that, right, 649 00:34:05,520 --> 00:34:08,760 Speaker 3: So having some other brothers or sisters that you respect 650 00:34:08,840 --> 00:34:12,080 Speaker 3: enough to really be truthful and come in and open 651 00:34:12,200 --> 00:34:15,640 Speaker 3: and see it from a godly perspective can help. 652 00:34:16,080 --> 00:34:18,879 Speaker 1: Yeah, in the future episode, I'll talk about that because 653 00:34:18,920 --> 00:34:21,120 Speaker 1: we did that in our home, And Sherry's going to 654 00:34:21,160 --> 00:34:23,799 Speaker 1: come on my wife on a future episode and we'll 655 00:34:23,840 --> 00:34:26,799 Speaker 1: talk about something that took place in our home and 656 00:34:26,840 --> 00:34:29,840 Speaker 1: we did those exact steps. We brought men of God 657 00:34:29,920 --> 00:34:34,239 Speaker 1: into the home. Everyone prayed over the home, and we 658 00:34:34,320 --> 00:34:36,880 Speaker 1: listened to their discernment that said, hey, you may have 659 00:34:36,880 --> 00:34:38,759 Speaker 1: thought this right here, wouldn't any big deal. I don't 660 00:34:38,760 --> 00:34:40,759 Speaker 1: feel good about it. Let's take it out and then 661 00:34:40,840 --> 00:34:44,279 Speaker 1: whatever these men that we trusted said. Even if it 662 00:34:44,360 --> 00:34:46,600 Speaker 1: had not, we had not felt the conviction of it 663 00:34:46,680 --> 00:34:49,960 Speaker 1: yet we listened to them. Sure, and I think that's important. 664 00:34:50,000 --> 00:34:55,000 Speaker 1: So Blake, thank you for sharing your thoughts on this topic, 665 00:34:55,040 --> 00:34:57,680 Speaker 1: but also telling us a story from being on the 666 00:34:57,719 --> 00:35:00,600 Speaker 1: front lines. Absolutely so, I do want to take one email, 667 00:35:00,640 --> 00:35:03,680 Speaker 1: and we'll do this from time to time on episodes 668 00:35:03,800 --> 00:35:07,480 Speaker 1: of Strange Encounters. You can email me Rick at Burgessmanistries 669 00:35:07,520 --> 00:35:11,879 Speaker 1: dot com. This email says, Hey, I wanted to ask 670 00:35:11,960 --> 00:35:15,880 Speaker 1: you a question. I'm really enjoying Strange Encounters, thank you 671 00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:19,520 Speaker 1: very much. And my question comes in the form of 672 00:35:19,560 --> 00:35:24,320 Speaker 1: a why is that that I can still hear my pops. 673 00:35:24,360 --> 00:35:28,880 Speaker 1: This is a grandfather who passed away, and he said, 674 00:35:28,920 --> 00:35:32,319 Speaker 1: I want to answer this question. My grandfather is a 675 00:35:32,360 --> 00:35:35,960 Speaker 1: man of God. He told me that he would see 676 00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:40,080 Speaker 1: me in heaven. Uh, and he gave me all indications 677 00:35:40,120 --> 00:35:42,120 Speaker 1: that there was no need to go to his gravesite 678 00:35:42,560 --> 00:35:45,840 Speaker 1: because he wasn't there, he said, but I can still, 679 00:35:46,600 --> 00:35:51,239 Speaker 1: you know, hear my Pop's name in dreams. When situations 680 00:35:51,280 --> 00:35:54,920 Speaker 1: come up, I see him. He appears in the dream 681 00:35:54,960 --> 00:35:57,000 Speaker 1: and I'm he said, I'm not a guy who cries 682 00:35:57,080 --> 00:35:59,080 Speaker 1: or anything, but every time he appears in a dream, 683 00:35:59,120 --> 00:36:02,479 Speaker 1: I can't remember the conversations because I weep every time. 684 00:36:02,800 --> 00:36:05,440 Speaker 1: I'll be driving around and the smell of the actual 685 00:36:05,520 --> 00:36:08,960 Speaker 1: cigarettes that he smoked will hit my nose and no 686 00:36:09,000 --> 00:36:13,160 Speaker 1: one's around. Uh. And you know, he said, if I 687 00:36:13,480 --> 00:36:17,720 Speaker 1: hear Wayward Son by Kansas, it was something that they enjoyed. 688 00:36:18,200 --> 00:36:20,839 Speaker 1: He said, that also brings where I feel like that 689 00:36:20,920 --> 00:36:24,239 Speaker 1: he is around me. So all these things make me 690 00:36:24,560 --> 00:36:28,880 Speaker 1: believe that I'm filling the presence of Pops again. So 691 00:36:28,920 --> 00:36:30,640 Speaker 1: I want to ask you this question, Rick, Can it 692 00:36:30,680 --> 00:36:34,920 Speaker 1: be possible some souls are still here, not as Casper 693 00:36:35,040 --> 00:36:39,799 Speaker 1: or something just a gentle breeze, are reminders that everything 694 00:36:39,960 --> 00:36:45,400 Speaker 1: is okay? Well? What I let me answer the question 695 00:36:45,480 --> 00:36:48,839 Speaker 1: that's really in here first email or okay, are there 696 00:36:49,000 --> 00:36:52,960 Speaker 1: souls that are still hanging around? The answer is no, No, 697 00:36:53,080 --> 00:36:56,280 Speaker 1: there isn't that that would violate a lot of scripture. 698 00:36:56,320 --> 00:37:00,160 Speaker 1: You you would have a hard time, uh that no 699 00:37:00,560 --> 00:37:04,719 Speaker 1: passing any biblical scrutiny because we're told in scripture to 700 00:37:04,760 --> 00:37:07,480 Speaker 1: be absent of the body for the redeemed is to 701 00:37:07,520 --> 00:37:10,120 Speaker 1: be in the presence of the Lord. And I assure you, 702 00:37:10,640 --> 00:37:13,239 Speaker 1: being in the presence of the Lord, no one has 703 00:37:13,280 --> 00:37:17,000 Speaker 1: any desire to come back to earth and be hanging around. Okay. 704 00:37:17,440 --> 00:37:19,360 Speaker 1: The other part of that is, you say, well, but 705 00:37:19,400 --> 00:37:22,120 Speaker 1: wait a minute, what about when you look in the 706 00:37:22,120 --> 00:37:26,600 Speaker 1: Book of Samuel and you see that Samuel had died 707 00:37:26,880 --> 00:37:31,399 Speaker 1: in Saul brought in a conjurer. By the way, we'll 708 00:37:31,400 --> 00:37:34,239 Speaker 1: do a whole episode on these people, and asked this, 709 00:37:35,120 --> 00:37:38,799 Speaker 1: for lack of a better term, which to bring Samuel 710 00:37:38,920 --> 00:37:43,360 Speaker 1: up for Saul to talk to Samuel. And this is 711 00:37:43,400 --> 00:37:46,080 Speaker 1: the problem with evil spirits in black magic. She was 712 00:37:46,120 --> 00:37:49,440 Speaker 1: able to do it, and Saul had hid his identity 713 00:37:49,440 --> 00:37:52,400 Speaker 1: from her, and Saul the King had outlawed any of this, 714 00:37:53,440 --> 00:37:55,759 Speaker 1: but he snuck in there trying to use some of 715 00:37:55,800 --> 00:37:58,640 Speaker 1: it when he was in duress and when God's hand 716 00:37:58,680 --> 00:38:02,120 Speaker 1: had been removed from him. That's crucial to remember. And 717 00:38:02,200 --> 00:38:04,080 Speaker 1: when she sees that it's the king, she said, you 718 00:38:04,120 --> 00:38:06,520 Speaker 1: deceived me, thinking now she's gonna get in trouble, like 719 00:38:06,600 --> 00:38:08,920 Speaker 1: you know, you would trap a criminal. But that's not 720 00:38:08,920 --> 00:38:11,480 Speaker 1: what Saul was doing. He wanted to talk to Samuel. 721 00:38:12,040 --> 00:38:16,200 Speaker 1: And what did Samuel say when he realized that he 722 00:38:16,280 --> 00:38:20,200 Speaker 1: had been brought into the presence of this place by dark, 723 00:38:20,719 --> 00:38:24,840 Speaker 1: evil magic? He said to Saul, what you shouldn't have 724 00:38:24,840 --> 00:38:29,200 Speaker 1: done this. This is evil, This is a sin. You 725 00:38:29,239 --> 00:38:32,640 Speaker 1: should not have done this. So that will also lead 726 00:38:32,680 --> 00:38:35,520 Speaker 1: us to another episode about obsessing over signs and wonders. 727 00:38:35,560 --> 00:38:38,680 Speaker 1: Be careful with signs and wonders because evil spirits and 728 00:38:39,239 --> 00:38:42,920 Speaker 1: Satan himself can do those two don't ever obsess over 729 00:38:42,960 --> 00:38:46,640 Speaker 1: signs and wonders. So would those things in scripture? No, 730 00:38:46,880 --> 00:38:52,760 Speaker 1: souls don't hang around now, Could these things be still 731 00:38:53,440 --> 00:38:58,439 Speaker 1: God's way of comforting you? Maybe probably make a hard 732 00:38:58,520 --> 00:39:01,439 Speaker 1: case that God uses the smell of cigarettes. But as 733 00:39:01,480 --> 00:39:05,280 Speaker 1: far as you know, you having a memory of Pops thinking, 734 00:39:05,360 --> 00:39:08,000 Speaker 1: you hear his voice. I know, if you've never read 735 00:39:08,000 --> 00:39:11,640 Speaker 1: my wife's book about the earthly death of our youngest son, 736 00:39:12,040 --> 00:39:13,880 Speaker 1: you really need to read it because there's some things 737 00:39:13,880 --> 00:39:16,560 Speaker 1: in there. I know a lot of people that when 738 00:39:16,560 --> 00:39:20,240 Speaker 1: they've lost loved ones, God used things in his creation 739 00:39:20,880 --> 00:39:23,800 Speaker 1: to comfort them, to remind them. My wife and I 740 00:39:23,880 --> 00:39:27,600 Speaker 1: have been through this, remind us of the sovereignty of God, 741 00:39:27,719 --> 00:39:30,160 Speaker 1: remind us of the peace of knowing that our loved 742 00:39:30,160 --> 00:39:34,520 Speaker 1: ones are now fully healed and fully hole in the 743 00:39:34,560 --> 00:39:37,680 Speaker 1: presence of the Lord. That's fine, and some of these 744 00:39:37,719 --> 00:39:40,120 Speaker 1: things may be that I wouldn't be overly alarmed by that. 745 00:39:40,160 --> 00:39:43,319 Speaker 1: If it comforts you, if it troubles you, then now 746 00:39:43,320 --> 00:39:48,359 Speaker 1: we're thinking it's probably demonic. But your question is, could 747 00:39:48,400 --> 00:39:52,800 Speaker 1: there be loved ones souls hanging around gravesites, hanging around 748 00:39:52,800 --> 00:39:54,600 Speaker 1: the house, riding with me in the truck when I'm 749 00:39:54,640 --> 00:39:58,239 Speaker 1: listening to Kansas. No, that would not stand up to 750 00:39:58,280 --> 00:40:02,200 Speaker 1: biblical scrutiny. Careful with that, so if you want to 751 00:40:02,239 --> 00:40:04,920 Speaker 1: send us some emails, we'll try to work those in 752 00:40:05,000 --> 00:40:08,160 Speaker 1: on future episodes too. Our thanks to Blake Prime for 753 00:40:08,239 --> 00:40:11,839 Speaker 1: being with us today and sharing that story and reminding 754 00:40:11,960 --> 00:40:15,759 Speaker 1: each and every one of us to always be prepared 755 00:40:16,640 --> 00:40:18,840 Speaker 1: for any strange encounter.