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Speaker 2: Uh huh yep. Week eleven. National Football League is starting

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Speaker 2: to come fully into focus. Got a couple of games

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Speaker 2: to go. But here's my first thought. I hope you're

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Speaker 2: ready for this one. This is what I'd like to say.

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Speaker 2: The NFL needs to start officiating games the same way

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Speaker 2: police go after marijuana in California. Do I have your attention?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Okay, good, good, because this has got to stop. If

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Speaker 2: you've got technology, use it. I'll explain. There's a play

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Speaker 2: that most of you probably didn't see. It should never

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Speaker 2: happen again in the NFL, and I've been hot ever

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Speaker 2: since it happened. And it happened. Count them up, I

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Speaker 2: think like seven hours ago. Seven hours ago because it

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Speaker 2: was early in the morning. Window. Okay, get to it

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Speaker 2: in a sec. Lots to get to. The Chiefs are

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Speaker 2: unbeaten no longer. The forty nine ers are in last place.

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Speaker 2: We got a lot to get to and we will.

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Speaker 2: should be. Okay, I know this isn't true in every state,

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Speaker 2: but in California and many others, the way that marijuana

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Speaker 2: is viewed by the law has changed in recent years.

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Speaker 3: So yes it has right, Okay.

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Speaker 2: So used to be like super duper legal.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you go to jail.

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Speaker 4: They got guys in prison for fifty sixty years from marijuana.

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Speaker 3: But go ahead, right now.

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Speaker 2: You can walk into a store and be like, I'll

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Speaker 2: take And so it changed. And the reason that you

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Speaker 2: police it different, Lee, is because the rules changed. That's

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Speaker 2: my focus. You police it different because the rules changed.

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Speaker 2: Same is true when a linebacker or a safety hits

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Speaker 2: a wide receiver hard going over the middle of the

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Speaker 2: football field, you're policing it the same, except for the

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Speaker 2: rules changed. And this is no longer okay. The rule

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Speaker 2: changed because obviously a number of years ago, you could

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Speaker 2: crack someone in any spot of their body with any

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Speaker 2: spot of your body and if you couldn't get up.

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Speaker 2: We made sure that that was a highlight that we

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Speaker 2: watched over and over again, as opposed to what it

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Speaker 2: is now, which is like a findable offense, an ejectable offense.

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Speaker 2: You can not launch yourself into the helmet of a

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Speaker 2: receiver coming over the middle. And we're so sensitive to it,

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Speaker 2: e from rightfully so that when someone does something that

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Speaker 2: looks like that, the flag comes out before the player

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Speaker 2: even hits the ground. The problem is is sometimes it

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Speaker 2: only looks like that happened, and we are so sensitive,

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Speaker 2: we are turned all the way up in terms of sensitivity,

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Speaker 2: that those refs just throw that flag. I mean, it's

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Speaker 2: a Pevlovian response. Boom flags out. They straight ruined the

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Speaker 2: first half of the Vikings Titans game because and I

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Speaker 2: think it was Jordan Madison in the end zone coming

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Speaker 2: over the middle. Ball was dislodged on an absolutely beautiful

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Speaker 2: textbook hit. Safety came right across the middle, use nothing

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Speaker 2: but his shoulder contacted, nothing but the mid section of

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Speaker 2: the wide receiver dislodged the ball and that was on

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Speaker 2: third down, so that was a drive stopper. Instead, flags

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Speaker 2: are flying everywhere because it looked bad. So then it

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Speaker 2: becomes a penalty, and then the Titans coaching staff loses

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Speaker 2: their damn mind. And then the officials, because they're being

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Speaker 2: yelled at by the Titan sideline, what are they gonna do? Whoa,

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Speaker 2: let's throw another flag and now we're gonna go half

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Speaker 2: the distance to the goal when we were already at

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Speaker 2: into the end zone for a touchdown and the Vikings

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Speaker 2: go up by two scores, pull away, win the football game.

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Speaker 2: I can't stand this. Calls are terrible, and then you

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Speaker 2: doubled down because you penalize the people who are livid

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Speaker 2: that you got it wrong, so then you throw another one.

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Speaker 2: It's out of control because the technology is all there, Ephraim.

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Speaker 2: And if they can whistle or talk down to the

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Speaker 2: feet were not the feet were not in bounds, or

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Speaker 2: that fumble was loose, they already radio down. Why can't

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Speaker 4: I you know what, when when when you started with this?

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Speaker 4: This is this is on you, like, this is bothering you.

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Speaker 2: It bothers me, It really bothers me.

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Speaker 3: You've been holding on for.

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Speaker 2: I know, people are like, oh the Chiefs loss and

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Speaker 2: and and I'm like in the weeds, I'm like, what, Ephraim.

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Speaker 2: I can't stand. It's two things. First of all, you've

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Speaker 2: almost kind of like the way racism in America works.

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Speaker 2: It's like, once I've got you under my thumb, I'm

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Speaker 2: I know I'm wrong, and so I didn't mean to

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Speaker 2: get super serious there for a second, but that's what

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Speaker 2: it feels like. You messed up, someone's mad at you

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Speaker 2: for messing up, and then you come down on them again.

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Speaker 2: It's bad parenting, it's bad the bad arm of the law,

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Speaker 2: bad teaching, bad coaching. It's all of those things wrapped

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Speaker 2: into one. And you're right. It truly truly bothers me.

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Speaker 4: Not the blocked field goal in the Chicago game, or the.

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Speaker 3: Down to the wire.

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Speaker 4: Casey Buffalo game, or the the inter division squabble in

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Speaker 3: This is the one.

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Speaker 2: This is the one. This is the one, and we

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Speaker 2: have three hours, so we're gonna do all. Yeah.

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Speaker 4: I know, I know, but you know, I usually want

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Speaker 4: to start off with some juice. You didn't want to

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Speaker 4: start off with the Tyson Paul fight.

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Speaker 2: Uh well, I'm already offended that you said that there

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Speaker 2: was juice in that, because there was, like if I've

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Speaker 2: ever seen something that defines not juice. It was that.

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Speaker 3: But anyway, go ahead. Look, I get what you're saying.

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Speaker 4: I didn't see the play because that game was on,

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Speaker 4: but I was watching all of the other important games.

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Speaker 3: Sure, so I missed that play.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I can tell you that Territory came on

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Speaker 2: and he's like, yeah, this is a I mean, it's

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Speaker 2: hard for the officials, bang bang play. I get that,

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Speaker 2: so I'm not coming down that road. I just don't

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Speaker 2: understand why we've got technology that we refuse to use.

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Speaker 2: And every official, the announcers, everybody, all, everybody agreed, terrible,

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Speaker 2: terrible call. Terrible call.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but.

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Speaker 4: They're gonna be one of those in every single game

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Speaker 4: every week.

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Speaker 2: But they're fixable. It's fixable.

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Speaker 3: You know. Human error is also part of the game,

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Speaker 3: and I understand that. I get it.

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Speaker 4: I know, I know, unless you know, when we evolved

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Speaker 4: then that's one thing.

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Speaker 3: But the human era.

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Speaker 4: Is built into the outrage and the triumph of sports

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Speaker 3: That's just what it is. I get it. I know it's.

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Speaker 4: Infuriating, especially for those fans of the teams. It affects

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Speaker 4: I don't think it changed the outcome of what was

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Speaker 4: going to happen with Minnesota and Tennessee.

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Speaker 3: So you know, it.

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Speaker 4: Sucks, right and you're right with with replay Assist and

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Speaker 4: the you know the but you know, there was a

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Speaker 4: you know, it was.

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Speaker 3: A play in.

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Speaker 4: I think the Kansas City game where Kansas City was

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Speaker 4: driving and through a pass it was dropped what they

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Speaker 4: called it a catch. It was under two minutes, but

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Speaker 4: the replay assists or New York didn't buzz in to

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Speaker 4: change it. And I'm sure Kansas City or Buffalo Bills

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Speaker 4: back and won that game, everybody would have been outraged

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Speaker 3: Call, right like I saw it. You know, I think it.

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Speaker 4: Was who was on that game whatever the rules analysts

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Speaker 4: that works with the with with the with the guys.

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Speaker 4: Uh he saw it and he was like, I wonder

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Speaker 3: That was it? Right?

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Speaker 4: Like, so it happens all the time. I get the

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Speaker 3: What did you have? You have you have a little

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Speaker 3: you have some coins on that game? Oh?

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Speaker 2: I got nothing? On it, absolutely nothing. But I also

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Speaker 2: think that you're like, maybe you're not fully getting the

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Speaker 2: where I'm coming from on what the the real bad

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Speaker 2: part is. It's twofold. It's like I get that there's

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Speaker 2: bad calls, sure, and and you know you're pointing out

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Speaker 2: replay assist maybe doesn't get there in time or whatever.

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Speaker 2: Like I can live with bad calls, but a they

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Speaker 2: refuse to use it on things that are considered judgment calls,

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Speaker 2: which is the stupidest thing ever, because in certain cases

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Speaker 2: there are there there truly is factor fiction. But but Ephraim,

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Speaker 2: if you're not gonna whistle down to the field, if

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Speaker 2: you're not going to use replay assistants, say you've got

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Speaker 2: to pick up that flag at minimum, whisper into the

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Speaker 2: ref's ear, Hey.

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Speaker 3: Ref, you got that wrong.

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Speaker 2: You got it wrong. So you get to eat the

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Speaker 2: screaming and then yelling that the head coach from the

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Speaker 2: other team is going to give you eat it, take it,

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Speaker 2: be accountable and move on. Don't make it worse by

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Speaker 2: then getting mad at someone who's mad, who has a

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Speaker 2: right to be mad. That's what really gets me. Okay,

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Speaker 2: so we're not talking about a bad call, we're talking

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Speaker 4: You've ever been in a relationship, and you go home

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Speaker 4: and you get it, You get into an argument and

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Speaker 4: you're in the right, and somewhere in that argument the

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Speaker 4: for making them argue with you about something they did

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Speaker 4: to you, which is like ninety eight percent of all marriages.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I'm like, yeah, I can't count how many

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Speaker 4: This is this is such as life, right, Like, I

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Speaker 4: know what that feels like. And I'm like, well, why

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Speaker 4: are you mad at me? I didn't do it?

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Speaker 2: Well except for me in our in our relationships, we

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Speaker 2: don't have cameras with other people watching. Who could say,

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Speaker 2: I mean, that's actually an ad campaign. I can't even

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Speaker 2: remember the product, but they do that thing. Like what

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Speaker 2: if we had replay in real life?

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Speaker 3: Yes, progressive right?

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Speaker 2: Progressive? Who left the back door open? What me? Well?

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Speaker 2: What me? Well, we're the only two people here, let's

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Speaker 2: have that in real life.

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Speaker 3: They have that in the NFL, which we did have that.

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Speaker 4: I wouldn't I would win a argument for good men.

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Speaker 2: Would have a chance. We'd have a chance.

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Speaker 3: From non official law school lawyer wife that I have.

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Speaker 5: That's all I'm saying, man, is you guys got You've

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Speaker 5: got cameras, you've got help, you got people who can

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Speaker 5: tell you what happened out there.

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Speaker 2: I'm not mad at mistakes. We all make them, don't

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Speaker 2: make them worse. That's all good. Lord, all right, you

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Speaker 2: want to talk about the magic of the Pittsburgh Steelers,

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Speaker 2: and actually that game was perfect. You and I had

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Speaker 2: a cool discussion last week about Deebo Samuel getting mad

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Speaker 3: His name, Mike Tyson.

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Speaker 2: Hell no, oh, his name is Chris Boswell and he

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Speaker 4: He doesn't necessarily play football, he's a kicker.

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Speaker 2: I mean, just to let everybody know where this is

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Speaker 2: football players I've had this conversation with this week in

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Speaker 2: just be like, yes, the kickers are second class citizens

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Speaker 2: in that locker room. Yes, Like you just admit it.

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Speaker 2: And that's fine. And I get it because I've watched camp.

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Speaker 2: I know what it's like. Your body hurts and they're

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Speaker 2: I totally get it. The problem is is to sort

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Speaker 2: of like diminish them becomes very very difficult because in

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Speaker 2: the Game of the Year for the AFC North, one

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Speaker 2: it's the difference in the division, right now it is

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Speaker 3: All eighteen points and correct me.

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Speaker 2: If I'm wrong. That's the second time that's happened this year.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it is absolutely right.

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Speaker 2: Meantime, meantime, Justin Tucker the greatest Justin Tucker anymore.

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Speaker 4: Greatest kicker ever? You know, according to some at least

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Speaker 4: last week, right, Moody missed three field goals. Now of

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Speaker 2: Well, how about this? Does someone and the Baltimore locker

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Speaker 3: Because that's a one off, is it? Yeah?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, but there's a difference between someone who seasoned and

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Speaker 3: And look, Moody is a good, dynamic kicker. He had

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Speaker 4: There's a lot of emotions involved. And look, it's okay,

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Speaker 4: this whole notion of you can't call somebody out when

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Speaker 4: that's a shame he went over there and did that, No,

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Speaker 4: you hold You know how many times a quarterback and

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Speaker 3: That's what happens. All of these games are hiding there.

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Speaker 4: They're important, and you know, when it's all said and done,

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Speaker 2: and we've talked a lot about that team this year

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Speaker 2: I'm not even refuting anything you're saying. The more I

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Speaker 2: There's like I mean, I've had something like almost similar

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Speaker 2: that's the way certain jobs are. Certain jobs are emotional,

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Speaker 3: He got something cooking right now, right, And.

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Speaker 2: Who would they be? What would they be without a

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's their formula. They're not gonna score a bunch

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Speaker 4: we're gonna take the points. We're gonna take the points.

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Speaker 4: And this was a big time matchup. I enjoyed it.

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Speaker 3: That's for a reason.

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Speaker 4: It's a reason why the two time league MVP has

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Speaker 4: it like this, if on those fourth downs where they

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Speaker 2: Yeah, no, they lose for sure.

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Speaker 3: Uh more than not.

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Speaker 4: So that's that's the hand I got, and that's the

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Speaker 4: hand I'm gonna play. And he's got a quarterback who

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Speaker 4: you know, he threw an uncharacteristic touch interception in the

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Speaker 2: Over correct although Justin Fields did make me laugh today.

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Speaker 3: Light for what is happening.

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Speaker 2: For those of you who were watching, Justin Fields was

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Speaker 3: If you don't sit your goofy butt over there on this,

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Speaker 2: No? No, that is not Mike Tomlin precision. If you

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Speaker 3: Life is good? Life is good right here watching this

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Speaker 6: He missed the last few of them. Let's go back

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Speaker 6: to the results from earlier today. That Bills beat the Chiefs.

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Speaker 6: Mike bo Pennix Michael Pennix played Bo Nicks had three

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Speaker 6: Steelers on the Ravens eighteen to sixteen. The final score

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Speaker 6: Ravens hold I'm sorry. Steelers hold on to the top

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Speaker 6: spot in the AFC North. George Pickens with eight catches

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Speaker 6: for eighty nine yards. Russell Wilson two oh five through

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Speaker 6: the year, so Pickens almost had half the receiving yards.

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Speaker 6: One interception, Lamar Jackson a touchdown and an interception. Derek

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Speaker 6: Henry adds a rushing touchdown. He's had one touchdown pretty

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Speaker 6: much every week that he has played thus far this season,

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Speaker 6: and in a game that was well over before it started,

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Speaker 6: the Lions beat the Jaguars fifty two to six, worst

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Speaker 6: loss in Jaguars franchise history. Jared Golf four touchdowns, perfect

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Speaker 6: passer rating one hundred and fifty eight point three.

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Speaker 3: That's not getting an A plus plus plus on the test.

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Speaker 6: Mark Willard and he from Salam back to you guys.

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Speaker 2: Okay, yep, Martin, thank you very much Live tyrant dot

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Speaker 2: com Studios with me from Salam Mark Willard and you know,

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Speaker 2: Martin brings up the Lions there, and I'm thankful because

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Speaker 2: now that the Kansas City Chiefs have a record of

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Speaker 2: nine and one and so do the Lions, I think

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Speaker 2: it's a little bit easier to say what all of

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Speaker 2: us really think, which is that the Lions are the

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Speaker 2: best team in football.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, they are. They are.

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Speaker 4: And I know I waxed poetic last year, I mean

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Speaker 4: last week, but last week's prices aren't today's prices.

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Speaker 2: Yep.

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Speaker 4: If Kansas City would have been able to pull that

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Speaker 4: game out, then I would have had the same butt

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Speaker 4: in the same retort that I had about the best

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Speaker 4: team in the league last week. But they did not,

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Speaker 4: And Detroit is on a mission. So they're on a

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Speaker 4: mission to number one. They're gonna run the score up

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Speaker 4: and I have no problem with that. They have zero

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Speaker 4: problem with them running the score up.

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Speaker 2: Same This is a National Football League.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, man, we're not playing Chattanooga State.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, come on, man.

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Speaker 4: Their incentives and bonuses and and MVP the implications on

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Speaker 4: the line here. So yeah, you know, you know, I

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Speaker 4: keep Jared golf in now he throw five six touchdowns. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: that's great for him, It's great for your team, it's

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Speaker 4: great for the city. That's what you want. You want

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Speaker 4: to put teams on notice.

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Speaker 3: Now.

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Speaker 4: They beat the lowly Jaguars who are vying for the

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Speaker 4: first pick in the draft. But Detroit is it's set

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Speaker 4: out this week to be the clear cut best team

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Speaker 4: in the league. And it looks good. Jared Goff has

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Speaker 4: complete control of the game. Twenty four. He missed on

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Speaker 4: five passes, twenty four, twenty nine four and twelve yards,

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Speaker 4: four touchdowns. That's fourteen yards of completion. That is a

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Speaker 4: first down every time he throws the ball and is gracious.

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Speaker 4: And their defense giving up six points and their best

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Speaker 4: defensive player is on ir.

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Speaker 2: Is out I know, I know Gosh and right, like

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Speaker 2: they made an acquisition to fill in for him, and

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Speaker 2: they've barely even taken the saran Rop off of them yet,

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Speaker 2: Like I think better things may be coming. And I

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Speaker 2: know that they're only up by one in their division

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Speaker 2: because Minnesota grinds out another win and all that, but

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Speaker 2: they have a game in hand against Minnesota already. Like

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Speaker 2: I'm expecting the NFC playoffs to go through Detroit. They've

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Speaker 2: got a wonderful home field advantage and I don't think

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Speaker 2: right now anybody's going to beat them. I think the

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Speaker 2: Detroit Lions are going to be in the super Bowl.

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Speaker 3: That is.

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Speaker 4: Look, and I can't argue that. I can't sit up

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Speaker 4: and argue that Philly has enough to do it. You know,

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Speaker 4: Arizona and those are they're not even owned the thespect

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Speaker 4: of teams that can compete with Detroit, essentially all the

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Speaker 4: teams that really can compete with them is outside of Philadelphia.

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Speaker 3: They're all in the same division.

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Speaker 2: Well, right, or maybe in the other conference.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, well I'm just talking well getting to the

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Speaker 3: super Bowl.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but even that, like you said, like I look

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Speaker 2: at Minnesota and Green Bay, I'm gonna take nothing away

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Speaker 2: from them. They have very good records, they're very good

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Speaker 2: football teams. But I see warts the last few weeks. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: you know what I mean.

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Speaker 4: But you got to also remember, and not to cut

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Speaker 4: you off, you got to also remember when you get

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Speaker 4: into that divisional play.

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Speaker 3: I mean, no matter how.

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Speaker 4: Good or bad your teams are, when you're playing your division,

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Speaker 4: anything can happen. That's why the spreads are so small.

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Speaker 4: When you're playing against your rival that you play against

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Speaker 4: every year, two times a year, and it's just what

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Speaker 4: it is. So the fact that you have nine and one,

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Speaker 4: eight and two and seven and three in the NFC

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Speaker 4: North is like, whoof oh.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's I mean, that's your division. Because especially suddenly

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Speaker 2: with the way the Falcons look, the NFC South looks

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Speaker 2: like them wait for it, NFC South again. The NFC

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Speaker 2: West has this weird thing going on where no one's

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Speaker 2: got a losing record, but you're also currently scared of No. One, yeah,

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Speaker 2: no one, and then right and the Washington Commanders suddenly

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Speaker 2: look like they're starting to run out of some.

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Speaker 3: Gas that it'll attired.

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Speaker 4: I think that Thursday night game for rookie quarterback halfway

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Speaker 4: through the season that's tough. It's tough just to wear

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Speaker 4: and tear, the dealing with the injuries, the mental fatigue.

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Speaker 4: There's a wall. There is a rookie wall. The fact

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Speaker 4: of the matter is I played and started in nineteen

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Speaker 4: games my rookie year, and this is not good. You know,

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Speaker 4: regularly in the postseason. And you know halfway through that

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Speaker 4: when we were around you know, week ten. This is

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Speaker 4: back when sixteen there were sixteen games like Week ten.

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Speaker 4: I was like, oh my god, I just this is

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Speaker 4: a lot. Like literally, I came from college. You played

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Speaker 4: eleven twelve games, take a month off playing a bowl

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Speaker 4: game like you you mean I had to play nineteen games,

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Speaker 4: twenty three including the four preseason games, with just one

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Speaker 4: week off in between the all of those.

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Speaker 3: Well, it's a lot. It's a lot.

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Speaker 2: Jayden, he has not looked the same injury.

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Speaker 4: No, no, that then shout out to him for fighting

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Speaker 4: and pushing through. But he's not the same guy he was.

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Speaker 4: And hopefully you know, look they're seven and four, they're

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Speaker 4: still cooking. Oh sure, right, they're still cooking. They're seven

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Speaker 4: and four.

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Speaker 2: They haven't gotten to play the Cowboys. Yeah, they get

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Speaker 2: two more turns there, Yeah.

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Speaker 4: And then just playing Philly on a short week like that,

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Speaker 4: as Philly is is jelling and and and coming along.

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Speaker 4: You know, Philadelphia probably had one of the deepest rosters

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Speaker 4: in all of the NFL, and you know, across the

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Speaker 4: board a mix with old, uh grizzly veterans, young superstars,

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Speaker 4: jump up up and coming stars, all of that, both

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Speaker 4: sides of the ball. So that's that was a tough

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Speaker 4: ask for them. And then look, it was a good game.

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Speaker 4: I mean, they were there, they were there there.

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Speaker 2: I don't know, I don't know what the hell drug

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Speaker 2: their coaching staff was smoking in the second half of that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that was what I was.

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Speaker 2: I don't know what on earth happened there. It was

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Speaker 2: over and over and over again. I'm like, I are

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Speaker 2: you all okay? Like, did you forget how football is playing?

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Speaker 2: That was pretty tough, bizarre, But anyway we can get

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Speaker 2: to that, and uh, furthermore, well, I'd love to almost

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Speaker 2: play kind of that that power ranking game that we're

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Speaker 2: talking about. And if we do believe the Lions are

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Speaker 2: are number one? Okay, how many teams do I name

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Speaker 2: after that before I get to the next NFC team?

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Speaker 2: We can do that. Coming up next with e from

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Speaker 2: Salammark weathert Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in

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Speaker 2: All right, these where we sit, they're called the tire

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Speaker 2: rat dot Com studios. On Sunday nights around these parts,

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Speaker 2: we do a watch party together Chargers and Bengals. Right now,

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Speaker 2: Chargers low key one of the best defensive teams in

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Speaker 2: the game. Right right now, Bengal's up three to nothing

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Speaker 2: late first quarter. Well, we'll get into that game as

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Speaker 2: it as it starts to take a little bit more shape.

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Speaker 2: But I wanted to play a game with you. If

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Speaker 2: you and I both agree that the Detroit Lion would

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Speaker 2: sort of head up our power ranking, how many more

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Speaker 2: teams would you then name starting at number two before

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Speaker 2: you got to another NFC team? So who's number two?

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Speaker 3: Number two would be Buffalo?

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Speaker 2: Okay? I figured it was either going to be the

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Speaker 2: Chiefs or Buffalo, and whoever it wasn't would probably be

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Speaker 2: number three. Accurate.

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Speaker 3: Number three would be the Chiefs.

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Speaker 2: Okay. Who's number four?

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Speaker 3: Number four? For my money? Uh huh, I would put Baltimore.

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Speaker 2: There, Okay, I think I agree with you. Who's number five?

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Speaker 3: Number five? I would put Pittsburgh.

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Speaker 2: Okay, I feel like I want to be on family

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Speaker 2: feud right now. That's a answer good as good answer

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Speaker 2: for good answer all its number.

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Speaker 3: Six, number six I would put. Uh. I would put Philadelphia.

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Speaker 2: Okay, all right, the Philadelphia Eagles at number six, although

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Speaker 2: like it's interesting, there could have been you know, Minnesota

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Speaker 2: and Green Bay and the Chargers and the Texans. I

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Speaker 2: would imagine crossed your mind, that's that's.

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Speaker 3: The next of course.

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Speaker 2: Okay, Washington, Okay, Yeah.

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Speaker 4: But like I said with with with Philly, they've seemed

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Speaker 4: to they've they've figured something out. They seem to have

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Speaker 4: of of blocked out the outside noise. Say what you

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Speaker 4: want about, Sirianni right, like they're they're poised to to

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Speaker 4: make a run here. Now. I still I'm going with

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Speaker 4: the Washington Commanders to win that division because that's what

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Speaker 4: I set out to. Okay, that's what I stated at

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Speaker 4: the beginning of the season. I think they have the talent.

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Speaker 4: The talent there. This long week, will you know, coming

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Speaker 4: off Thursday football and having a long week, it's gonna

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Speaker 4: bode well.

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Speaker 3: For them to getting some rest stuff like that. And so.

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Speaker 4: I do think Philadelphia is hitting their stride though, and

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Speaker 4: it's gonna be a great race between those two teams

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Speaker 4: coming down the end. Like you said, Washington does have

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Speaker 4: to play Dallas twice, So that's a's a great thing.

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Speaker 2: It's a really good thing. And they get a game.

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Speaker 2: I'm looking at their schedule the rest of the way

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Speaker 2: they get they get Dallas actually next up, and they

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Speaker 2: get them on a little extra rest and Dallas will

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Speaker 2: be coming off every short week because they play tomorrow night.

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Speaker 2: Then they get the host the Titans, then they get

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Speaker 2: a bye. So I mean, I'm not gonna just call

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Speaker 2: NFL games in people's favor, but I think there's there's

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Speaker 2: a fair chance that Washington is nine and four, yeah,

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Speaker 2: when they go into their Week fourteen bye, and then

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Speaker 2: they pop out of that for the final quadrant of

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Speaker 2: their season at New Orleans, home to Philly, home to

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Speaker 2: Atlanta at Dallas.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, And I think that that buy as much, it'll

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Speaker 4: be much needed. As crazy as how I mean, they

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Speaker 4: have to wait so long. You know, he got a

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Speaker 4: rookie quarterback and he's got to be forged by fire

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Speaker 4: for that long before he can even catch his breath,

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Speaker 4: because that it means something. I know, to the fans

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Speaker 4: and most people on the outside looking in, it's just like, well,

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Speaker 4: else what they pay you for. It's a lot your

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Speaker 4: rookie year. It's a lot. It's a lot. I couldn't

654
00:39:50,800 --> 00:39:56,960
Speaker 4: even imagine how much it is for a quarterback. It

655
00:39:57,000 --> 00:40:01,960
Speaker 4: was a lot for an offensive lineman. And so there

656
00:40:02,000 --> 00:40:06,279
Speaker 4: is something to be said about recharging, getting rest, not

657
00:40:06,480 --> 00:40:10,920
Speaker 4: having to prepare every day every week. It becomes it

658
00:40:10,960 --> 00:40:14,680
Speaker 4: gets a little bit more more monotonous, and you know,

659
00:40:14,760 --> 00:40:17,920
Speaker 4: it's definitely a wall. You see it in all sports.

660
00:40:18,040 --> 00:40:20,640
Speaker 4: Rookie start off on fire and then the next thing

661
00:40:20,680 --> 00:40:22,280
Speaker 4: you know, they're like, man, what happened? They tired?

662
00:40:22,360 --> 00:40:22,560
Speaker 3: Hell?

663
00:40:22,840 --> 00:40:26,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, Well, I mean, just stuff happens. You're not

664
00:40:26,800 --> 00:40:29,880
Speaker 2: gonna I don't know many teams that do eighteen straight

665
00:40:29,920 --> 00:40:34,040
Speaker 2: weeks of playing at their best, just right the bob

666
00:40:34,040 --> 00:40:37,239
Speaker 2: and weave to the whole thing. But I think Washington's

667
00:40:37,239 --> 00:40:39,440
Speaker 2: got a really good shot at eleven wins.

668
00:40:39,719 --> 00:40:40,959
Speaker 3: Yeah I don't.

669
00:40:41,480 --> 00:40:45,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know if that'll be enough to to

670
00:40:45,239 --> 00:40:53,399
Speaker 2: actually win the division. Then maybe maybe we shall see.

671
00:40:53,480 --> 00:40:56,120
Speaker 2: But I do think there's more to be said there,

672
00:40:56,200 --> 00:40:59,719
Speaker 2: because I do think that the AFC is going to

673
00:40:59,760 --> 00:41:04,120
Speaker 2: bat I'll test one another a lot better than the NFC. Okay,

674
00:41:04,560 --> 00:41:07,640
Speaker 2: next hour, we do have some Tyson Paul stuff. We

675
00:41:07,719 --> 00:41:10,040
Speaker 2: got to get to these forty nine ers, man, we

676
00:41:10,120 --> 00:41:15,680
Speaker 2: got to get to the niners next. Okay. I don't

677
00:41:15,800 --> 00:41:19,680
Speaker 2: look at changing an opinion as a sign of weakness.

678
00:41:19,760 --> 00:41:23,080
Speaker 2: I don't like this in this social media age where oh,

679
00:41:23,160 --> 00:41:26,200
Speaker 2: you're a flip flopper. We'll wait a minute. Wouldn't it

680
00:41:26,239 --> 00:41:29,319
Speaker 2: be worse to like stick your feet in cement and

681
00:41:29,360 --> 00:41:33,239
Speaker 2: be like, Nope, even with new information and the reality

682
00:41:33,280 --> 00:41:36,319
Speaker 2: that maybe I was wrong about something, I'm sticking to it.

683
00:41:36,760 --> 00:41:39,200
Speaker 2: Wouldn't you dislike that person a lot more?

684
00:41:39,440 --> 00:41:42,839
Speaker 3: Well, it's a lot of people to dislike that a man.

685
00:41:43,239 --> 00:41:46,520
Speaker 2: So we're not going to do that because I do

686
00:41:46,760 --> 00:41:48,800
Speaker 2: since and I haven't talked to you about it yet,

687
00:41:49,239 --> 00:41:51,719
Speaker 2: but a sense that an opinion about a certain team

688
00:41:51,880 --> 00:41:57,800
Speaker 2: changed at about four o'clock today, and that's specific time.

689
00:41:58,480 --> 00:42:01,200
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693
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Speaker 2: the way tire buying should be. What say you about

694
00:42:14,600 --> 00:42:17,720
Speaker 2: the five and five last place San Francisco forty nine Ers.

695
00:42:17,560 --> 00:42:23,879
Speaker 4: Today, I just thought they looked disjointed. I thought they

696
00:42:23,960 --> 00:42:26,120
Speaker 4: left a lot of points out there on the field.

697
00:42:28,160 --> 00:42:29,960
Speaker 3: And you know, when.

698
00:42:32,600 --> 00:42:37,399
Speaker 4: Nick Bosa went out, it was like their whole pass

699
00:42:37,480 --> 00:42:38,080
Speaker 4: rush died.

700
00:42:39,640 --> 00:42:40,040
Speaker 3: And so.

701
00:42:44,160 --> 00:42:47,040
Speaker 4: It wasn't the forty nine er team that we had

702
00:42:47,080 --> 00:42:55,680
Speaker 4: come accustomed to knowing. And you know, when you they

703
00:42:55,680 --> 00:43:03,080
Speaker 4: were they were pedestrian, and I think, you know, we're

704
00:43:03,239 --> 00:43:06,800
Speaker 4: used to them being special, especially with that that roster

705
00:43:06,920 --> 00:43:13,279
Speaker 4: and that that level of talent around them. But they're

706
00:43:13,280 --> 00:43:15,560
Speaker 4: the worst defensive team in the league in the last

707
00:43:16,239 --> 00:43:19,320
Speaker 4: in the fourth quarter and you know, last two minutes

708
00:43:19,320 --> 00:43:20,080
Speaker 4: at the fourth quarter.

709
00:43:20,560 --> 00:43:23,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, they've I mean they've had In fact, they have

710
00:43:23,360 --> 00:43:29,440
Speaker 2: a loss against each team in their division where simply

711
00:43:29,680 --> 00:43:31,920
Speaker 2: they had a lead and the ball was given to

712
00:43:31,960 --> 00:43:35,280
Speaker 2: the other quarterback and the other quarterback with very little time,

713
00:43:36,200 --> 00:43:38,400
Speaker 2: marches down the field and gets whatever they need to

714
00:43:38,440 --> 00:43:41,920
Speaker 2: win the game. It's happened against all three division foes.

715
00:43:44,040 --> 00:43:48,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, And it's the crazy part is even with all

716
00:43:48,600 --> 00:43:53,600
Speaker 4: of that, they're still.

717
00:43:53,320 --> 00:43:53,839
Speaker 3: Not at it.

718
00:43:55,160 --> 00:43:57,439
Speaker 2: Well, of course they're not out of it. Hell, they're

719
00:43:57,520 --> 00:44:00,080
Speaker 2: one game back in their division and they're they're there

720
00:44:00,200 --> 00:44:03,759
Speaker 2: still seven games to be played. I do wonder what

721
00:44:03,800 --> 00:44:07,279
Speaker 2: this will look like two weeks from today, when they

722
00:44:07,320 --> 00:44:10,600
Speaker 2: have also added to their resume trips to Green Bay

723
00:44:10,600 --> 00:44:13,960
Speaker 2: and Buffalo that's their next two games.

724
00:44:14,040 --> 00:44:15,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's gonna be tough, man.

725
00:44:16,400 --> 00:44:19,640
Speaker 2: And I would argue that that if they want to

726
00:44:19,680 --> 00:44:23,839
Speaker 2: have any thoughts on the playoffs at all, Oh, yeah, both,

727
00:44:24,360 --> 00:44:29,120
Speaker 2: minimum they've got to win one of both. Maybe both, Yeah,

728
00:44:29,280 --> 00:44:32,080
Speaker 2: maybe both, And you might be right, because my thought

729
00:44:32,160 --> 00:44:34,799
Speaker 2: today was you have to win today and then one

730
00:44:34,840 --> 00:44:37,160
Speaker 2: of the next two, and you've got to come out

731
00:44:37,160 --> 00:44:39,280
Speaker 2: of their seven and five and now to be seven

732
00:44:39,280 --> 00:44:42,120
Speaker 2: and five. Now you got to win them both. You

733
00:44:42,120 --> 00:44:45,040
Speaker 2: gotta win them both. And I would say confidence confidence

734
00:44:45,080 --> 00:44:47,399
Speaker 2: on that would be low. Yeah.

735
00:44:47,719 --> 00:44:56,600
Speaker 4: It just seems like, you know, the efficiency on offense

736
00:44:56,680 --> 00:44:59,120
Speaker 4: and defense, it's just not there now. I like, I

737
00:44:59,120 --> 00:45:03,279
Speaker 4: love Nick Sorenson, and I played with Nick, their defensive coordinator.

738
00:45:03,440 --> 00:45:06,000
Speaker 4: It's just not the same energy in the same pop

739
00:45:07,560 --> 00:45:10,080
Speaker 4: that you had when you had a Demico or that

740
00:45:10,520 --> 00:45:11,280
Speaker 4: when you had.

741
00:45:14,120 --> 00:45:16,919
Speaker 3: Robert Sala, Robert Sala.

742
00:45:17,120 --> 00:45:21,719
Speaker 4: So it's I was watching that last drive and I'm like, man,

743
00:45:21,920 --> 00:45:27,560
Speaker 4: is what defense is this? It's like, we're you know,

744
00:45:27,640 --> 00:45:30,839
Speaker 4: they they chose one time to bring extra pressure and

745
00:45:31,080 --> 00:45:38,480
Speaker 4: it it wasn't speeding anyone up. It wasn't speeding Gino up.

746
00:45:39,080 --> 00:45:43,080
Speaker 4: And then you don't keep the integrity of your rush lanes.

747
00:45:44,120 --> 00:45:48,160
Speaker 4: And on that last drive he literally ran them to

748
00:45:48,280 --> 00:45:57,400
Speaker 4: victory yep. Which is unlike San Francisco defensive team in

749
00:45:57,440 --> 00:46:00,920
Speaker 4: the past, not this year, I'm talking about in the past.

750
00:46:01,960 --> 00:46:06,680
Speaker 4: And so just watching them slowly but surely give up

751
00:46:06,760 --> 00:46:10,719
Speaker 4: yards and give up downs and it just felt like, oh,

752
00:46:10,840 --> 00:46:16,239
Speaker 4: I said, well, we know where this is headed. Right

753
00:46:16,280 --> 00:46:18,719
Speaker 4: where it is five and five and it's poor as

754
00:46:18,760 --> 00:46:22,920
Speaker 4: they played there five and five at the Ten Games, yep.

755
00:46:23,200 --> 00:46:27,360
Speaker 2: And there have been some things a lot bandied about

756
00:46:27,360 --> 00:46:30,319
Speaker 2: on social media after the game, and I saw this,

757
00:46:30,320 --> 00:46:33,040
Speaker 2: This caught my eye from Mike Silver of the Athletic.

758
00:46:33,920 --> 00:46:37,239
Speaker 2: He said, here is the list of teams with a

759
00:46:37,280 --> 00:46:41,520
Speaker 2: winning record that the forty nine ers have beaten. End

760
00:46:41,560 --> 00:46:50,000
Speaker 2: of list. That's the list. They haven't done it all

761
00:46:50,120 --> 00:46:54,440
Speaker 2: year long. I mean, when you now look back, forget

762
00:46:54,480 --> 00:46:58,200
Speaker 2: what you thought about them then. But listen to the

763
00:46:58,239 --> 00:47:01,960
Speaker 2: list of teams that the forty nine ers have beaten. Now,

764
00:47:02,040 --> 00:47:04,760
Speaker 2: now they beat the Seahawks, the team they lost to today,

765
00:47:04,760 --> 00:47:08,879
Speaker 2: they beat them earlier this year in Seattle. I guess

766
00:47:08,960 --> 00:47:12,279
Speaker 2: that would qualify as their best win because they have

767
00:47:12,320 --> 00:47:16,120
Speaker 2: beaten the Jets, They've beaten the Patriots, they've beaten the Cowboys,

768
00:47:16,560 --> 00:47:19,000
Speaker 2: and they beat the Bucks at a time where the

769
00:47:19,040 --> 00:47:22,359
Speaker 2: Bucks were on six days rest, the Niners were on

770
00:47:22,440 --> 00:47:25,080
Speaker 2: fourteen and the Bucks do not have either of their

771
00:47:25,280 --> 00:47:27,480
Speaker 2: wide receivers.

772
00:47:29,080 --> 00:47:31,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, they're just sleepwalking through the season.

773
00:47:31,560 --> 00:47:36,000
Speaker 2: Absolutely sleepwalking. And I know what once you get through

774
00:47:36,040 --> 00:47:38,800
Speaker 2: the emotions of it, because I'm gonna have to write

775
00:47:38,800 --> 00:47:41,000
Speaker 2: like it's going to be for you, Yeah, it's going

776
00:47:41,080 --> 00:47:45,520
Speaker 2: to be Wednesday before the listeners to my weekday show,

777
00:47:46,200 --> 00:47:48,560
Speaker 2: and actually probably not even that. They probably not gonna

778
00:47:48,560 --> 00:47:52,680
Speaker 2: calm down until next offseason. But once you get through

779
00:47:52,680 --> 00:47:57,040
Speaker 2: the emotion, I think this is the question that a

780
00:47:57,040 --> 00:47:59,880
Speaker 2: forty nine er fan is trying to find an answer to,

781
00:48:00,680 --> 00:48:02,800
Speaker 2: and I'd love to hear from you because I don't

782
00:48:02,800 --> 00:48:06,920
Speaker 2: have a great answer yet. I know that there are

783
00:48:06,920 --> 00:48:10,439
Speaker 2: a couple of missing pieces. Drake Greenlaw is not there,

784
00:48:10,560 --> 00:48:13,600
Speaker 2: and Brandon Aiyuk is not there, and McCaffrey has not

785
00:48:13,840 --> 00:48:16,960
Speaker 2: been there and blah blah blah. Nick Bosa had to

786
00:48:17,080 --> 00:48:21,080
Speaker 2: leave today, all right, but every team deals with injuries.

787
00:48:21,520 --> 00:48:25,080
Speaker 2: The Chiefs certainly have their nine and one. The Lions

788
00:48:25,120 --> 00:48:28,840
Speaker 2: lost their best defensive player. They're nine and one. A

789
00:48:28,960 --> 00:48:32,680
Speaker 2: Niner fan looks at this and goes, you got the

790
00:48:32,840 --> 00:48:38,960
Speaker 2: same coach, the same system, most of the same people

791
00:48:40,120 --> 00:48:45,239
Speaker 2: in the same division. So what changed?

792
00:48:52,120 --> 00:48:53,040
Speaker 3: I think the energy?

793
00:48:53,120 --> 00:48:57,719
Speaker 4: Remember I kept speaking about this hangover thing and the

794
00:48:57,760 --> 00:49:02,520
Speaker 4: monotony of the regular season, and if they don't lock

795
00:49:02,640 --> 00:49:06,279
Speaker 4: in and focus in, they're going to find themselves with

796
00:49:06,360 --> 00:49:07,280
Speaker 4: a real hangover.

797
00:49:08,560 --> 00:49:09,280
Speaker 3: Like it's.

798
00:49:10,800 --> 00:49:19,000
Speaker 4: It's hard to continue to be dominant and get to where,

799
00:49:21,239 --> 00:49:23,799
Speaker 4: you know, get to the goal you were set out

800
00:49:23,840 --> 00:49:26,760
Speaker 4: to accomplish and lose over and over and over again,

801
00:49:28,880 --> 00:49:32,160
Speaker 4: right to be ten and one or you know, thirteen

802
00:49:32,200 --> 00:49:35,480
Speaker 4: and two, and like, that's hard to continue to do

803
00:49:35,680 --> 00:49:41,440
Speaker 4: over and over again without the payoff of winning the

804
00:49:41,480 --> 00:49:46,920
Speaker 4: Super Bowl. So it's easy for players and teams to

805
00:49:47,080 --> 00:49:49,960
Speaker 4: lose focus, and that is what we're seeing in bunches here.

806
00:49:53,440 --> 00:49:56,000
Speaker 4: And if you don't focus long enough, you find yourself

807
00:49:56,040 --> 00:49:56,760
Speaker 4: out of focus.

808
00:49:57,400 --> 00:50:01,240
Speaker 3: Uh, huh, squinting on outside looking in.

809
00:50:01,680 --> 00:50:04,880
Speaker 2: Well, like, let me ask you this because here's a

810
00:50:04,920 --> 00:50:07,440
Speaker 2: word that I've been using for the Niners all year,

811
00:50:07,760 --> 00:50:10,359
Speaker 2: and I heard a bunch of people kind of join

812
00:50:10,440 --> 00:50:13,760
Speaker 2: me today. But even if we agree on the word,

813
00:50:14,400 --> 00:50:16,680
Speaker 2: I don't know if most fans know what to do

814
00:50:16,760 --> 00:50:20,000
Speaker 2: with it. But what I see is a team that

815
00:50:20,080 --> 00:50:26,040
Speaker 2: plays very undisciplined football. And when you see a lack

816
00:50:26,120 --> 00:50:30,920
Speaker 2: of discipline, and it's across the board, like the offensive

817
00:50:30,920 --> 00:50:36,720
Speaker 2: line just could not stop committing penalties today, it was unbelievable.

818
00:50:37,880 --> 00:50:42,600
Speaker 2: And when you see that, for me, I'm like, well,

819
00:50:42,600 --> 00:50:45,279
Speaker 2: if you like, if it's one player, okay, if it's

820
00:50:45,320 --> 00:50:49,000
Speaker 2: two players, but if it's just constant in many, many directions,

821
00:50:49,160 --> 00:50:52,360
Speaker 2: no one knows where to look other than the coach

822
00:50:52,520 --> 00:50:57,759
Speaker 2: or the coaching staff. And I don't want to be

823
00:50:57,800 --> 00:51:02,399
Speaker 2: that simplistic with it, because when teams are underperforming, that's

824
00:51:02,440 --> 00:51:05,359
Speaker 2: just what we do. Fire the coach. Well, that's not

825
00:51:05,360 --> 00:51:10,759
Speaker 2: probably not gonna happen here in this particular situation. But

826
00:51:10,800 --> 00:51:18,360
Speaker 2: when a team has repeatedly committed penalties kicked selves in foot,

827
00:51:18,480 --> 00:51:20,439
Speaker 2: I don't know how many how many times have we've

828
00:51:20,440 --> 00:51:22,560
Speaker 2: seen a nine er quote always shot ourselves in the

829
00:51:22,560 --> 00:51:27,600
Speaker 2: foot again, the special teams blunders, all those things. Where

830
00:51:27,600 --> 00:51:31,480
Speaker 2: do you look when that's the reality.

831
00:51:33,239 --> 00:51:34,600
Speaker 3: In the mirror everyone?

832
00:51:36,840 --> 00:51:38,960
Speaker 2: But if what if I'm not one of them? What

833
00:51:39,040 --> 00:51:40,040
Speaker 2: if I'm just a fan?

834
00:51:40,239 --> 00:51:43,080
Speaker 3: Oh? Then you get You just gotta go drink.

835
00:51:45,640 --> 00:51:47,960
Speaker 2: Why got stuff in the fridge, That's easy.

836
00:51:48,000 --> 00:51:51,400
Speaker 4: You just gotta just yeah. You gotta take the edge off, man,

837
00:51:53,239 --> 00:51:55,200
Speaker 4: You gotta take the edge off. You can't have nine

838
00:51:55,239 --> 00:51:58,400
Speaker 4: penalties for fifty four yards at any point and be

839
00:51:58,520 --> 00:51:59,280
Speaker 4: taken serious.

840
00:51:59,640 --> 00:52:02,960
Speaker 2: And they're all I'm telling you, E I don't remember

841
00:52:03,080 --> 00:52:06,200
Speaker 2: any of them being on the defense. Let's swear it

842
00:52:06,239 --> 00:52:08,080
Speaker 2: was all the offensive line.

843
00:52:08,640 --> 00:52:11,759
Speaker 4: You won the time of possession, you rush for one

844
00:52:11,840 --> 00:52:15,680
Speaker 4: hundred and thirty one yards, forty more yards than your opponent,

845
00:52:18,080 --> 00:52:23,040
Speaker 4: you gave up less sacks, and you still lost the

846
00:52:23,080 --> 00:52:29,360
Speaker 4: game at home. There is a lack of attention to

847
00:52:29,440 --> 00:52:33,960
Speaker 4: detail there at the highest level. Uh. And you know

848
00:52:34,040 --> 00:52:39,520
Speaker 4: coaches aren't excluded. Isn't it not the players? Yep, you

849
00:52:39,520 --> 00:52:41,640
Speaker 4: know it's it's it's not man, it's a it's a

850
00:52:43,920 --> 00:52:48,239
Speaker 4: it's an organization wide thing. The lack of focus is

851
00:52:48,400 --> 00:52:55,759
Speaker 4: contagious when you think every week, all right, we're gonna

852
00:52:55,760 --> 00:52:59,520
Speaker 4: turn it on. But what you've yet, what you've stated

853
00:52:59,760 --> 00:53:03,920
Speaker 4: is when you look at their wins and losses, they'll

854
00:53:03,960 --> 00:53:09,919
Speaker 4: have a loss and then they'll play the Cowboys, right,

855
00:53:11,520 --> 00:53:14,840
Speaker 4: you know what I mean, Like, they'll have a loss

856
00:53:16,840 --> 00:53:23,200
Speaker 4: and then they'll play the Patriots.

857
00:53:22,080 --> 00:53:27,399
Speaker 2: And then everybody thinks it's okay. It hasn't been all year.

858
00:53:29,239 --> 00:53:33,520
Speaker 2: I mean, they've played ten football games, and I would

859
00:53:33,680 --> 00:53:38,280
Speaker 2: argue the only one, Only once did a fan walk

860
00:53:38,320 --> 00:53:43,160
Speaker 2: out of the game going all right, boogie, let's go.

861
00:53:43,800 --> 00:53:48,560
Speaker 2: And it was the first one, and because it was

862
00:53:48,600 --> 00:53:51,400
Speaker 2: the New York Jets, it was the home opener, and

863
00:53:51,760 --> 00:53:54,800
Speaker 2: the bar had been set in all kinds of weird places.

864
00:53:54,880 --> 00:53:58,080
Speaker 2: Christian McCaffrey had been announced out literally an hour before

865
00:53:58,120 --> 00:54:00,960
Speaker 2: the game, so people were except because they're like this

866
00:54:01,160 --> 00:54:04,799
Speaker 2: Jordan Mason guy, this is great. And what did we

867
00:54:04,840 --> 00:54:07,720
Speaker 2: think that day? That wasn't true. We thought the Jets

868
00:54:07,760 --> 00:54:14,920
Speaker 2: were good. We thought the Jets were good, and they're not.

869
00:54:15,080 --> 00:54:19,480
Speaker 2: They're awful. Look, they're terrible. So beating them on your

870
00:54:19,520 --> 00:54:23,239
Speaker 2: home field on Monday night is actually not that impressive.

871
00:54:24,160 --> 00:54:26,960
Speaker 2: So I would argue Niner fans have walked away from

872
00:54:27,040 --> 00:54:31,560
Speaker 2: games this year, feeling good once, like truly being like

873
00:54:32,080 --> 00:54:36,560
Speaker 2: that was some stuff right there once, and they were wrong.

874
00:54:37,960 --> 00:54:39,160
Speaker 2: They were wrong to feel that way.

875
00:54:39,560 --> 00:54:44,359
Speaker 4: I'd say twice, I'd say after that first Seahawks game. Yeah,

876
00:54:44,440 --> 00:54:47,040
Speaker 4: but then you get followed up and get slapped in

877
00:54:47,080 --> 00:54:48,080
Speaker 4: the face by the Chiefs.

878
00:54:48,200 --> 00:54:50,960
Speaker 2: So remember they went up twenty three to three in

879
00:54:51,000 --> 00:54:53,840
Speaker 2: that game and immediately gave up the kickoff return for

880
00:54:53,880 --> 00:54:57,480
Speaker 2: a touchdown. And they're special teams. Like special teams have

881
00:54:57,680 --> 00:55:01,800
Speaker 2: got hands. It's been ridiculous for five years.

882
00:55:01,920 --> 00:55:04,959
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's and all of those little things come back

883
00:55:05,120 --> 00:55:05,759
Speaker 4: to bite you.

884
00:55:07,120 --> 00:55:07,439
Speaker 3: It does.

885
00:55:07,520 --> 00:55:09,719
Speaker 4: It comes back to bus. You gotta really be button up,

886
00:55:09,800 --> 00:55:13,240
Speaker 4: especially the second half of the season. This thing can spirals.

887
00:55:13,239 --> 00:55:17,719
Speaker 4: So they need five wins. They need at least five wins.

888
00:55:17,400 --> 00:55:19,320
Speaker 2: At least five wins.

889
00:55:18,960 --> 00:55:24,640
Speaker 4: And so looking at their remaining schedule, they got the Packers,

890
00:55:24,719 --> 00:55:28,920
Speaker 4: the Bills, Chicago will give them that win. They got

891
00:55:29,000 --> 00:55:35,759
Speaker 4: the Rams. Kyle has mcveigh's number usually usually okay, we'll

892
00:55:35,800 --> 00:55:38,520
Speaker 4: give them now when that's two, all right. They got

893
00:55:38,600 --> 00:55:44,399
Speaker 4: the Dolphins in Miami, long trip, one of your disciples. Yep,

894
00:55:45,800 --> 00:55:49,120
Speaker 4: that's a coin that's a coin flip. You got the

895
00:55:49,200 --> 00:55:54,319
Speaker 4: Lions no shot. And then you got the Cardinals. That's

896
00:55:54,360 --> 00:55:55,680
Speaker 4: a possible, right.

897
00:55:55,600 --> 00:56:01,879
Speaker 2: So you gotta be perfect and the Bears Dolphin's Cardinals

898
00:56:01,960 --> 00:56:05,680
Speaker 2: foursome and then way still one, find a way to

899
00:56:05,719 --> 00:56:09,320
Speaker 2: win at least one at Green Bay, at Buffalo and

900
00:56:09,440 --> 00:56:10,280
Speaker 2: home to Detroit.

901
00:56:10,520 --> 00:56:13,480
Speaker 3: Yes, that at Tall Tale.

902
00:56:14,040 --> 00:56:21,040
Speaker 2: That's a really tall task. Okay, Now there's a there's

903
00:56:21,080 --> 00:56:25,359
Speaker 2: a really big question that comes out of all of this.

904
00:56:26,239 --> 00:56:29,840
Speaker 2: That is the question. And I have not felt so

905
00:56:30,000 --> 00:56:33,120
Speaker 2: far this year the need to ask this question until today.

906
00:56:34,280 --> 00:56:37,960
Speaker 2: And it's going to be a massive story in the

907
00:56:38,080 --> 00:56:42,600
Speaker 2: NFL for the next What are we in November, next

908
00:56:42,640 --> 00:56:46,080
Speaker 2: five months? This is going to be a huge question.

909
00:56:46,840 --> 00:56:48,799
Speaker 2: Today's the day to ask it. And I'll do that

910
00:56:48,920 --> 00:56:51,520
Speaker 2: next with the from salam Mark Willard, Fox Sports Radio.

911
00:56:52,960 --> 00:56:58,719
Speaker 2: Look at your Chargers boy, who up up fourteen to

912
00:56:58,800 --> 00:57:02,200
Speaker 2: six first and goal is well six uh six, eighteen

913
00:57:02,239 --> 00:57:08,560
Speaker 2: and counting to go in the first half. And as

914
00:57:08,560 --> 00:57:10,680
Speaker 2: we've been talking about the last couple of weeks, Chargers

915
00:57:10,760 --> 00:57:15,000
Speaker 2: might be the AFC threat that nobody's talking about at all.

916
00:57:18,320 --> 00:57:22,240
Speaker 2: We can circle back to that. But I was here's

917
00:57:22,280 --> 00:57:28,360
Speaker 2: the question I promised it I'll ask it is is

918
00:57:28,440 --> 00:57:36,919
Speaker 2: Rock Purty costing himself millions of dollars right now? No, no, no,

919
00:57:39,600 --> 00:57:39,920
Speaker 2: how so.

920
00:57:42,520 --> 00:57:46,360
Speaker 4: It's hard to you have to keep everything in in

921
00:57:46,760 --> 00:57:53,960
Speaker 4: context and perspective. Rock Party is a seventh round draft pick. Okay, Now,

922
00:57:54,000 --> 00:58:05,200
Speaker 4: I know in the grand scheme of things, you can say,

923
00:58:05,600 --> 00:58:08,720
Speaker 4: you know, if they were to go back to the

924
00:58:08,760 --> 00:58:12,480
Speaker 4: playoffs and then find themselves in an NFC championship.

925
00:58:11,840 --> 00:58:13,480
Speaker 2: Game, are.

926
00:58:15,240 --> 00:58:18,840
Speaker 4: You know in the Super Bowl again you said, oh,

927
00:58:18,880 --> 00:58:23,880
Speaker 4: he's gonna he's gonna get maxed out. But when you

928
00:58:23,960 --> 00:58:29,040
Speaker 4: look at it in reality, he makes nine hundred thousand

929
00:58:29,120 --> 00:58:38,520
Speaker 4: dollars and Dak Prescott had who hasn't even come close

930
00:58:38,560 --> 00:58:44,720
Speaker 4: to the success that Brock Purty has and is also

931
00:58:45,640 --> 00:58:52,120
Speaker 4: having an abysmal season prior to going on IR and

932
00:58:52,200 --> 00:58:53,120
Speaker 4: been out for the year.

933
00:58:55,360 --> 00:58:55,760
Speaker 3: And so.

934
00:58:57,520 --> 00:59:02,760
Speaker 4: What that has told us is the landscape for paying

935
00:59:02,840 --> 00:59:16,120
Speaker 4: these quarterbacks isn't based on, you know, being elite. It's

936
00:59:16,520 --> 00:59:19,160
Speaker 4: really based on especially when you look at a Daniel

937
00:59:19,200 --> 00:59:23,160
Speaker 4: Jones contract. And so if the forty nine ers paid

938
00:59:23,360 --> 00:59:26,920
Speaker 4: Rock Purty fifty million dollars a year for the next

939
00:59:26,960 --> 00:59:31,120
Speaker 4: five years, would you say he costs himself money?

940
00:59:32,080 --> 00:59:35,520
Speaker 2: Well, no, I wouldn't say that. And by the way,

941
00:59:35,600 --> 00:59:38,120
Speaker 2: even the framing of the question might not be perfect

942
00:59:38,120 --> 00:59:42,040
Speaker 2: because it's not like, you know, to say he's costing himself,

943
00:59:42,800 --> 00:59:46,000
Speaker 2: like the situation situation right, Let's not like Rocks out

944
00:59:46,000 --> 00:59:49,600
Speaker 2: there playing offensive football. Right. It has not looked as

945
00:59:49,600 --> 00:59:52,760
Speaker 2: good this year as last. There might be a bunch

946
00:59:52,800 --> 00:59:56,240
Speaker 2: of reasons for that. Some of last year were circumstantial,

947
00:59:56,320 --> 01:00:00,000
Speaker 2: some of this year is circumstantial. But like it complete.

948
01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:03,040
Speaker 2: He did seventy five percent of his passes today. It

949
01:00:03,080 --> 01:00:06,080
Speaker 2: only went for one hundred and fifty nine yards. There

950
01:00:06,160 --> 01:00:08,520
Speaker 2: was one interception. It was not a good one. It

951
01:00:08,600 --> 01:00:12,040
Speaker 2: was definitely a force ball on his part. He had

952
01:00:12,320 --> 01:00:15,000
Speaker 2: first Yeah, he ran first score, he threw first score.

953
01:00:15,760 --> 01:00:20,439
Speaker 2: Brock did not do anything offensive. However, the Niners keep

954
01:00:20,720 --> 01:00:24,800
Speaker 2: hovering around seventeen to twenty points. That's not good enough.

955
01:00:24,880 --> 01:00:27,880
Speaker 2: They were at thirty almost all the time last year.

956
01:00:28,920 --> 01:00:34,000
Speaker 2: And even just watching him play, you start to see

957
01:00:34,000 --> 01:00:41,760
Speaker 2: decision making that is constantly, consistently baked into the process.

958
01:00:41,800 --> 01:00:43,880
Speaker 2: You're not going to hear me call him a system quarterback.

959
01:00:43,920 --> 01:00:46,640
Speaker 2: I don't even look at system quarterbacks as a bad thing.

960
01:00:48,520 --> 01:00:53,200
Speaker 2: But what we're seeing is Rock Purdy's decisions are simply

961
01:00:53,440 --> 01:00:57,680
Speaker 2: baked into the play call. In other words, I get

962
01:00:57,680 --> 01:01:01,840
Speaker 2: the ball, snap it to me. If I see X,

963
01:01:01,920 --> 01:01:04,680
Speaker 2: I do why. If I see why, I do X.

964
01:01:05,640 --> 01:01:08,240
Speaker 2: And that's not all the time, because he runs a

965
01:01:08,280 --> 01:01:10,440
Speaker 2: lot and he's a good out lib player. We've seen that.

966
01:01:11,560 --> 01:01:14,240
Speaker 2: But too often when the forty nine ers are down

967
01:01:15,280 --> 01:01:17,880
Speaker 2: or they need to, for instance today, put a game away.

968
01:01:19,200 --> 01:01:24,520
Speaker 2: You're seeing defenses. No, let's press this button. Make Brock

969
01:01:24,680 --> 01:01:29,560
Speaker 2: do that and we'll get the ball back. Because for instance,

970
01:01:29,600 --> 01:01:32,800
Speaker 2: it's third and eleven, and that's what happened today. Third

971
01:01:32,800 --> 01:01:37,320
Speaker 2: and eleven, a first down puts the game away. Seattle blitzes,

972
01:01:37,480 --> 01:01:40,760
Speaker 2: Brock goes hot. The hot route is not going to

973
01:01:40,840 --> 01:01:44,680
Speaker 2: get you eleven yards. Seattle gets the ball, Seattle goes

974
01:01:44,720 --> 01:01:48,440
Speaker 2: to win the game. That doesn't make today Brock's fall.

975
01:01:48,520 --> 01:01:50,080
Speaker 2: That doesn't mean he's having a bad year.

976
01:01:50,280 --> 01:01:52,960
Speaker 3: And that's why I say it hasn't cost many money.

977
01:01:53,080 --> 01:01:54,880
Speaker 2: But what do you pay for that, Ephraim?

978
01:01:55,400 --> 01:01:59,760
Speaker 4: I think you know that Brock can win games for

979
01:01:59,880 --> 01:02:03,840
Speaker 4: you at the highest level, and so that's what you're

980
01:02:03,880 --> 01:02:08,640
Speaker 4: paying for, right Gino Smith got paid. We had no

981
01:02:08,680 --> 01:02:11,240
Speaker 4: inclination that he can win games at the highest level.

982
01:02:12,560 --> 01:02:15,800
Speaker 4: Daniel Jones got paid. We had no inclination that they

983
01:02:15,800 --> 01:02:18,800
Speaker 4: can win hot games at the highest level. Dak Prescott

984
01:02:18,880 --> 01:02:22,520
Speaker 4: got paid, We had zero inclination that they can win

985
01:02:22,600 --> 01:02:25,680
Speaker 4: games at the highest level. This is what I'm talking

986
01:02:25,680 --> 01:02:30,760
Speaker 4: about in terms of is he costing himself money? Absolutely not,

987
01:02:32,600 --> 01:02:36,280
Speaker 4: because the quarterback market will be what the quarterback market

988
01:02:36,400 --> 01:02:40,720
Speaker 4: will be. And if the San Francisco forty nine ers

989
01:02:40,760 --> 01:02:44,360
Speaker 4: don't want to play brock Purty, I can promise.

990
01:02:43,920 --> 01:02:46,000
Speaker 2: You somebody will.

991
01:02:46,240 --> 01:02:49,760
Speaker 4: Boy will they ever? Oh, Dallas found themselves in a

992
01:02:49,800 --> 01:02:55,680
Speaker 4: similar situation. Sure, right, I just imagine if Dallas would

993
01:02:55,680 --> 01:02:56,400
Speaker 4: have just waited.

994
01:02:57,480 --> 01:03:00,560
Speaker 2: I know, but but maybe we're having you know, like

995
01:03:00,680 --> 01:03:03,000
Speaker 2: I'm thinking about this in terms of what does it

996
01:03:03,120 --> 01:03:06,240
Speaker 2: mean to pay brock perty If he makes nine hundred thousand, Yeah,

997
01:03:06,440 --> 01:03:09,920
Speaker 2: we have forty that's paying him, fifty, that's paying him sixty,

998
01:03:09,960 --> 01:03:10,600
Speaker 2: that's paying him.

999
01:03:10,640 --> 01:03:11,840
Speaker 3: I don't think it's sixty.

1000
01:03:12,360 --> 01:03:15,120
Speaker 2: Well, but what happens if his agent does what you

1001
01:03:15,400 --> 01:03:18,480
Speaker 2: just did, which is well, Dak got sixty in Brocks

1002
01:03:18,520 --> 01:03:22,240
Speaker 2: way better than him, So why doesn't brocket sixty two?

1003
01:03:23,640 --> 01:03:26,000
Speaker 2: And what did the Niners do if that agent says.

1004
01:03:25,720 --> 01:03:31,520
Speaker 4: That eventually somebody's agent is going to have to take

1005
01:03:31,560 --> 01:03:37,800
Speaker 4: the Tom Brady or the Patrick Mahomes route. Somebody's agent

1006
01:03:39,000 --> 01:03:41,000
Speaker 4: is going to have to say to them, you have

1007
01:03:41,080 --> 01:03:43,680
Speaker 4: one of the best coaches in the game. You have

1008
01:03:43,760 --> 01:03:46,520
Speaker 4: one of the most talented rosters in the game, and

1009
01:03:46,560 --> 01:03:52,000
Speaker 4: in order to keep both, this is what happens. And

1010
01:03:52,040 --> 01:04:00,400
Speaker 4: you can point to great, all time great players who've

1011
01:04:00,440 --> 01:04:06,320
Speaker 4: had that sentiment. For someone making nine hundred thousand dollars

1012
01:04:08,360 --> 01:04:16,960
Speaker 4: forty five fifty five million dollars a year, it's crazy

1013
01:04:16,360 --> 01:04:19,800
Speaker 4: they will use your draft pick against you in terms

1014
01:04:19,800 --> 01:04:22,840
Speaker 4: of how they negotiate with you. Now quarterback is a

1015
01:04:22,880 --> 01:04:25,440
Speaker 4: little bit of an outlier because you're the proof is

1016
01:04:25,480 --> 01:04:30,560
Speaker 4: in the pudding. Brock party has been superb. Is he perfect? No,

1017
01:04:30,600 --> 01:04:35,320
Speaker 4: No one is, not even the great Patrick Mahomes. No

1018
01:04:35,360 --> 01:04:45,919
Speaker 4: one's perfect. And so I believe brock Parties price will

1019
01:04:45,960 --> 01:04:50,840
Speaker 4: be comparable, not as much as Dak because I know

1020
01:04:52,200 --> 01:04:55,919
Speaker 4: that Brock likes where he is, He likes the people

1021
01:04:56,000 --> 01:04:59,720
Speaker 4: around him, he likes the coaching staff. They like him.

1022
01:05:00,680 --> 01:05:06,280
Speaker 4: And so if you can create a utopia where you

1023
01:05:06,320 --> 01:05:09,840
Speaker 4: can find continued success, right, they got to go out,

1024
01:05:09,840 --> 01:05:14,640
Speaker 4: They got to really you know, they're gonna have to

1025
01:05:14,680 --> 01:05:21,560
Speaker 4: answer some questions moving forward, right, and so one of

1026
01:05:21,600 --> 01:05:25,800
Speaker 4: the questions doesn't be, well, how do we pay everybody?

1027
01:05:25,840 --> 01:05:28,240
Speaker 4: Because we've got to give Brock thirty sixty two million

1028
01:05:28,280 --> 01:05:32,880
Speaker 4: dollars a year. I don't think this is going to

1029
01:05:32,920 --> 01:05:40,000
Speaker 4: be one of those situations. So I don't think he's

1030
01:05:40,000 --> 01:05:44,280
Speaker 4: costing himself any money. I mean when I look at

1031
01:05:44,480 --> 01:05:52,720
Speaker 4: Martin Weiss and all I see is money and dollar time. Well,

1032
01:05:52,800 --> 01:05:55,160
Speaker 4: right now, Justin Herbert's been money for the Chargers.

1033
01:05:55,520 --> 01:05:58,080
Speaker 6: He's seven for eight, one hundred and thirty seven yards

1034
01:05:58,080 --> 01:06:00,760
Speaker 6: and two touchdowns. How about this lead beating the Chargers

1035
01:06:00,760 --> 01:06:04,120
Speaker 6: in rushing right now? Two carries fifty yards an average

1036
01:06:04,120 --> 01:06:07,000
Speaker 6: of twenty five per as long as thirty twenty one

1037
01:06:07,040 --> 01:06:09,600
Speaker 6: to six. The score for the Chargers over the Bengals

1038
01:06:09,600 --> 01:06:11,520
Speaker 6: four to thirty five. Are four to seventeen left in

1039
01:06:11,600 --> 01:06:14,760
Speaker 6: the second quarter. Here Bengals unable to score a touchdown

1040
01:06:14,760 --> 01:06:18,080
Speaker 6: to Evan McPherson field goals thus far, Will Disley has

1041
01:06:18,120 --> 01:06:21,480
Speaker 6: a touchdown reception, so as Quentin Johnston and JK. Dobbins

1042
01:06:21,560 --> 01:06:24,200
Speaker 6: went over the top on fourth and goal to go

1043
01:06:24,240 --> 01:06:27,360
Speaker 6: ahead and score the third touchdown for the Chargers. Earlier

1044
01:06:27,400 --> 01:06:29,280
Speaker 6: today in the NFL we had. The Bills beat the

1045
01:06:29,360 --> 01:06:32,320
Speaker 6: Chief thirty to twenty one. The Seahawks beat the forty

1046
01:06:32,400 --> 01:06:35,480
Speaker 6: nine Ers twenty to seventeen. Falcons beat the Broncos, beat

1047
01:06:35,520 --> 01:06:38,800
Speaker 6: the Falcons badly, thirty eight to six. Saint Jovah Browns

1048
01:06:38,840 --> 01:06:41,640
Speaker 6: thirty five to fourteen. The Rams top to Patriots twenty

1049
01:06:41,760 --> 01:06:44,840
Speaker 6: eight to twenty two. Dolphins outscore the Raiders thirty four

1050
01:06:44,880 --> 01:06:48,200
Speaker 6: to nineteen, Colts over the Jets twenty eight to twenty seven.

1051
01:06:48,240 --> 01:06:52,280
Speaker 6: Stealers beat the Ravens eighteen to sixteen, Vikings over Titans

1052
01:06:52,360 --> 01:06:56,360
Speaker 6: twenty three to thirteen. Packers block a game winning field

1053
01:06:56,400 --> 01:06:59,360
Speaker 6: goal attempt twenty to nineteen to score as they beat

1054
01:06:59,400 --> 01:07:03,200
Speaker 6: the Bears, and Lions beat the Jaguars fifty two to six.

1055
01:07:03,600 --> 01:07:06,360
Speaker 6: In college football, there's no changes to the top twenty

1056
01:07:06,360 --> 01:07:10,760
Speaker 6: five after yesterday's action. Oregon number one in the nation

1057
01:07:10,920 --> 01:07:14,280
Speaker 6: eleven and oh undefeated obviously, Ohio state nine and one

1058
01:07:14,360 --> 01:07:14,920
Speaker 6: their second.

1059
01:07:15,000 --> 01:07:16,640
Speaker 3: Texas Penn State both nine and one.

1060
01:07:16,960 --> 01:07:19,560
Speaker 6: They make up third and fourth in Indiana ten and

1061
01:07:19,560 --> 01:07:22,560
Speaker 6: oh takes the fifth spot. You know, Kirk Scnetti did

1062
01:07:22,600 --> 01:07:26,520
Speaker 6: sign an eight year contract extension yesterday. LSU unranked for

1063
01:07:26,600 --> 01:07:30,160
Speaker 6: the first time in two years and NBA action as

1064
01:07:30,240 --> 01:07:33,440
Speaker 6: winding down in Dallas and Oklayon ced Dallas with a

1065
01:07:33,480 --> 01:07:37,040
Speaker 6: three point lead, one one eighteen with nineteen seconds left

1066
01:07:37,080 --> 01:07:39,240
Speaker 6: in the fourth quarter and to the first quarter. The

1067
01:07:39,280 --> 01:07:43,480
Speaker 6: Clippers lead the Jazz thirty five to twenty five. Hey,

1068
01:07:43,480 --> 01:07:45,440
Speaker 6: you know what, back to you guys.

1069
01:07:45,520 --> 01:07:51,680
Speaker 7: Thanks day, Yeah, money wise right here on Fox Sports

1070
01:07:51,800 --> 01:07:55,880
Speaker 7: Radio Live tire rack dot Com studios.

1071
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Speaker 2: Hey, did you catch a little bit of Michael Pennix? Yeah,

1072
01:08:00,160 --> 01:08:03,040
Speaker 2: Garbaggio time. Well, Falcons, what do you think?

1073
01:08:03,160 --> 01:08:07,320
Speaker 4: I like him? I like him? Start spinning that thing.

1074
01:08:07,800 --> 01:08:10,919
Speaker 2: He threw four passes, completed two of them. But it's

1075
01:08:10,960 --> 01:08:14,120
Speaker 2: just kind of a vibe, right, Like you look at someone.

1076
01:08:14,240 --> 01:08:16,160
Speaker 2: You watch the way the ball looks coming out of

1077
01:08:16,200 --> 01:08:18,200
Speaker 2: his hand. I know it's garbage time. So I don't

1078
01:08:18,240 --> 01:08:20,080
Speaker 2: even know who the hell he was going against me, No.

1079
01:08:20,120 --> 01:08:22,200
Speaker 4: Matter, he was a passing situation. He had to come

1080
01:08:22,200 --> 01:08:23,240
Speaker 4: in and put the ball in there.

1081
01:08:23,600 --> 01:08:27,200
Speaker 2: It looked good. It looked good. I still don't know.

1082
01:08:27,360 --> 01:08:30,360
Speaker 2: Like we've all just kind of settled with this. Remember

1083
01:08:30,400 --> 01:08:32,760
Speaker 2: how controversial it was when the Falcons did it.

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01:08:33,040 --> 01:08:34,519
Speaker 3: Yeah, and now we're.

1085
01:08:34,360 --> 01:08:37,759
Speaker 2: Just kind of settled with this, Except for I realized today,

1086
01:08:38,040 --> 01:08:40,680
Speaker 2: especially with the Falcons getting blown off the field and

1087
01:08:40,720 --> 01:08:43,599
Speaker 2: filling to six and five. I still don't know if

1088
01:08:43,600 --> 01:08:48,200
Speaker 2: I'm settled with this, Like, what what are they gonna do?

1089
01:08:50,400 --> 01:08:54,640
Speaker 2: This is the exact scenario that brings the conversation to

1090
01:08:54,720 --> 01:09:00,160
Speaker 2: the party next offseason. Falcons might win the division, but

1091
01:09:00,200 --> 01:09:03,880
Speaker 2: what if they do it at nine and eight and

1092
01:09:03,960 --> 01:09:08,360
Speaker 2: get absolutely balanced come playoff time?

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01:09:11,080 --> 01:09:12,679
Speaker 3: Yeah? I mean.

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01:09:14,720 --> 01:09:19,840
Speaker 4: The Kirk Cousins, you know, has the team for the

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01:09:19,880 --> 01:09:26,479
Speaker 4: most part, in position to win the division. There is

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01:09:26,520 --> 01:09:32,120
Speaker 4: no rush for Michael Pennix Jr. To start playing. There

1097
01:09:32,200 --> 01:09:37,160
Speaker 4: is no rush. So don't rush.

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01:09:37,600 --> 01:09:40,880
Speaker 3: That's what you do. You don't rush.

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01:09:41,040 --> 01:09:46,759
Speaker 4: You're okay, and you're setting yourself up to be okay

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01:09:46,800 --> 01:09:50,400
Speaker 4: for the next twelve years, which is the bigger picture.

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01:09:51,800 --> 01:09:55,080
Speaker 4: We can't get consumed with the year in front of you,

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01:09:56,640 --> 01:09:59,240
Speaker 4: right when you're supposed to be on the rebuild, correct,

1103
01:10:00,720 --> 01:10:03,400
Speaker 4: when you're supposed to be on trying to you know,

1104
01:10:03,400 --> 01:10:06,680
Speaker 4: figure it out and who we are. Yeah, don't all

1105
01:10:06,720 --> 01:10:08,080
Speaker 4: of a sudden get in and be like, oh man,

1106
01:10:08,080 --> 01:10:09,640
Speaker 4: we better let's change directions.

1107
01:10:12,040 --> 01:10:16,519
Speaker 3: You can't just drive into the mountain. He stayed the course.

1108
01:10:18,080 --> 01:10:18,759
Speaker 3: Stay the course.

1109
01:10:18,880 --> 01:10:24,040
Speaker 2: But okay, But like there's no rush, it doesn't feel rushed.

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01:10:24,439 --> 01:10:25,639
Speaker 2: What if it doesn't feel.

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01:10:25,479 --> 01:10:28,360
Speaker 4: Rushed, like God forbid, something happens to Kirk Cousins or

1112
01:10:28,360 --> 01:10:31,360
Speaker 4: something like that, and then Michael Pennix Junior gets an opportunity,

1113
01:10:31,400 --> 01:10:33,920
Speaker 4: he goes out there and does this thing. Then, yeah,

1114
01:10:34,439 --> 01:10:36,360
Speaker 4: now you have to next year you have the most

1115
01:10:36,400 --> 01:10:42,280
Speaker 4: expensive backup quarterback on the planet. But outside of that,

1116
01:10:43,160 --> 01:10:47,519
Speaker 4: you stay the course. Kirk Cousins as a starter, Michael's learning.

1117
01:10:48,760 --> 01:10:49,760
Speaker 4: That's what it's going to be.

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01:10:50,280 --> 01:10:52,559
Speaker 2: I guess my question is how long is that course?

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01:10:54,080 --> 01:10:58,759
Speaker 4: I would suspect it was a two year journey based

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Speaker 4: on the contract and the guarantee money for for Kirk Cousins.

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01:11:08,920 --> 01:11:11,280
Speaker 2: I mean inside a four year deal. I know, I

1122
01:11:11,320 --> 01:11:14,759
Speaker 2: know there's the potential out is after next season.

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01:11:15,000 --> 01:11:17,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's what four years a hundred million? Right?

1124
01:11:18,320 --> 01:11:20,679
Speaker 2: It was four years one hundred and eighty million.

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01:11:20,439 --> 01:11:22,440
Speaker 3: One hundred and eighty million. How much hundred.

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01:11:24,400 --> 01:11:30,080
Speaker 2: At twenty six makes it a two year one hundred

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01:11:30,160 --> 01:11:33,479
Speaker 2: million dollars thirty five million in dead cat.

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01:11:33,360 --> 01:11:37,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's fifty million dollars a year. Yeah, which is

1129
01:11:37,600 --> 01:11:42,320
Speaker 4: obviously the under the going rate for quarterbacks these days.

1130
01:11:42,640 --> 01:11:46,559
Speaker 2: Well, good ones yeah, well or even mediocre ones.

1131
01:11:46,640 --> 01:11:48,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, like it's Robe Lawrence.

1132
01:11:48,240 --> 01:11:49,240
Speaker 2: Is making fifty five.

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01:11:49,600 --> 01:11:52,880
Speaker 4: Like I said that, that whole good. It's three elite quarterbacks,

1134
01:11:53,439 --> 01:11:57,160
Speaker 4: that's it. Everybody else. Hey man, you figured out none

1135
01:11:57,200 --> 01:12:00,280
Speaker 4: of those quarterbacks are the highest paid, by the way, right,

1136
01:12:00,920 --> 01:12:02,360
Speaker 4: all of them play on great teams.

1137
01:12:05,560 --> 01:12:12,760
Speaker 3: So what it's all said and done, it is what

1138
01:12:12,800 --> 01:12:13,160
Speaker 3: it is.

1139
01:12:13,680 --> 01:12:21,800
Speaker 4: And you know, we talked about my quarterback tiers and

1140
01:12:22,439 --> 01:12:25,160
Speaker 4: you know who's elite who's not, And I had three names.

1141
01:12:25,600 --> 01:12:28,400
Speaker 4: We saw two of them going against each other today,

1142
01:12:29,680 --> 01:12:37,320
Speaker 4: which cemented my point. It cemented my point when Buffalo

1143
01:12:37,840 --> 01:12:42,960
Speaker 4: had an opportunity on fourth down to end the game

1144
01:12:43,160 --> 01:12:45,200
Speaker 4: or take the field goal and give the ball back

1145
01:12:45,200 --> 01:12:49,080
Speaker 4: to Kansas City.

1146
01:12:49,720 --> 01:12:54,000
Speaker 3: If you're elite, you go for it. You put the game.

1147
01:12:55,439 --> 01:13:00,960
Speaker 4: In your quarterback's hands, and if you're going against elite,

1148
01:13:01,640 --> 01:13:07,160
Speaker 4: you don't give him back the ball. So in that

1149
01:13:07,280 --> 01:13:12,360
Speaker 4: one play, my point was proven on the highest level.

1150
01:13:14,080 --> 01:13:18,000
Speaker 4: I have one of the three elite quarterbacks in the game,

1151
01:13:20,200 --> 01:13:25,760
Speaker 4: and I'm going against one of the other ones, and

1152
01:13:25,840 --> 01:13:30,760
Speaker 4: so yeah, I'm gonna put my money on my guy

1153
01:13:32,680 --> 01:13:35,519
Speaker 4: to get it done because I know the other guy

1154
01:13:35,560 --> 01:13:40,880
Speaker 4: can get it done. And you could not let him

1155
01:13:40,920 --> 01:13:47,120
Speaker 4: get on the back on the field. No, you just can't.

1156
01:13:47,600 --> 01:13:54,080
Speaker 4: And that's of respect to Patrick Mahomes and that's respect

1157
01:13:54,160 --> 01:13:58,280
Speaker 4: to Josh Allen, two of the three elite quarterbacks in

1158
01:13:58,400 --> 01:14:01,479
Speaker 4: our game period. That's what it looks like like. So

1159
01:14:01,560 --> 01:14:03,559
Speaker 4: you can add you, but justin Herber, you can add

1160
01:14:03,600 --> 01:14:06,439
Speaker 4: all these names. None of it looks like that in

1161
01:14:06,479 --> 01:14:10,720
Speaker 4: that situation. Outside of those guys.

1162
01:14:11,160 --> 01:14:14,320
Speaker 2: I agree with you. However, there is a name I

1163
01:14:14,320 --> 01:14:17,679
Speaker 2: want to throw at you. And in case anyone's confused,

1164
01:14:17,720 --> 01:14:20,040
Speaker 2: the one that you're not naming is Lamar Jack. Of course,

1165
01:14:20,080 --> 01:14:23,519
Speaker 2: I don't think anybody's confused. There there's another name I

1166
01:14:23,520 --> 01:14:25,320
Speaker 2: want to throw at you. We'll do that next. Within

1167
01:14:25,439 --> 01:14:30,120
Speaker 2: from Salama mark Well at Fox Sports Radio, okaytyrack dot

1168
01:14:30,120 --> 01:14:36,400
Speaker 2: com Studios. Oh my gosh, it from I feel like

1169
01:14:36,439 --> 01:14:44,200
Speaker 2: I might cry. I've been waiting for this moment.

1170
01:14:47,240 --> 01:14:53,800
Speaker 3: Party forever. I'm on that sing What.

1171
01:14:55,520 --> 01:14:57,280
Speaker 2: I mean, I do wait for your singing moments. But

1172
01:14:57,320 --> 01:14:58,519
Speaker 2: that's not what I was referring to.

1173
01:15:01,479 --> 01:15:05,840
Speaker 3: Home on that thing, Oh night long.

1174
01:15:09,400 --> 01:15:11,840
Speaker 2: The moment I've been waiting for Ephraim.

1175
01:15:12,000 --> 01:15:15,520
Speaker 3: Is me to drop my album.

1176
01:15:15,680 --> 01:15:19,799
Speaker 2: I consider that a movement, not a moment. That's a movement.

1177
01:15:20,080 --> 01:15:22,680
Speaker 2: That is a movement, you know what I'm saying.

1178
01:15:24,040 --> 01:15:24,200
Speaker 3: Now.

1179
01:15:24,240 --> 01:15:25,880
Speaker 2: The moment I've been waiting for is when there's an

1180
01:15:25,960 --> 01:15:28,719
Speaker 2: NFL coach who only needs a yard but it takes

1181
01:15:28,760 --> 01:15:31,040
Speaker 2: them Oh god three anyway.

1182
01:15:30,760 --> 01:15:33,040
Speaker 3: Hey, how how.

1183
01:15:34,280 --> 01:15:39,320
Speaker 4: Odd I was sitting here looking at that? How odd

1184
01:15:39,400 --> 01:15:45,439
Speaker 4: does it feel to see the Chargers do that?

1185
01:15:46,080 --> 01:15:48,639
Speaker 3: Based on their path they were?

1186
01:15:49,040 --> 01:15:54,599
Speaker 2: Yes, Oh, Brandon Staley, Brandon Stay would have actually up

1187
01:15:54,640 --> 01:15:59,040
Speaker 2: twenty one to six. You get past interference in the

1188
01:15:59,120 --> 01:16:01,879
Speaker 2: end zone with four seconds left to go in the half,

1189
01:16:02,600 --> 01:16:04,639
Speaker 2: so it's first and goal at the one.

1190
01:16:04,720 --> 01:16:05,840
Speaker 3: He's definitely going for it.

1191
01:16:07,120 --> 01:16:12,000
Speaker 2: You need one yard, there's no timeouts. Yep, Brandon Staley

1192
01:16:12,040 --> 01:16:14,840
Speaker 2: would have bought a flight for his kicker to go

1193
01:16:14,920 --> 01:16:15,759
Speaker 2: to the next game.

1194
01:16:17,040 --> 01:16:24,120
Speaker 4: He's definitely going for it, of course. And something horrific, oh,

1195
01:16:24,160 --> 01:16:28,080
Speaker 4: no doubt, like a fumble scooped up for a ninety

1196
01:16:28,200 --> 01:16:35,479
Speaker 4: nine yard fumble return exactly. That's just what was you know,

1197
01:16:36,040 --> 01:16:37,400
Speaker 4: that was to be expected.

1198
01:16:38,040 --> 01:16:40,240
Speaker 2: Do you know what Harball has That is the most

1199
01:16:40,280 --> 01:16:44,040
Speaker 2: powerful thing on the planet. He has got a big,

1200
01:16:44,760 --> 01:16:48,559
Speaker 2: huge cup full of I don't care what other people

1201
01:16:48,640 --> 01:16:53,400
Speaker 2: think of me. I mean, if there's one piece of

1202
01:16:53,439 --> 01:16:58,479
Speaker 2: advice I could give to the dang kids. Just a big,

1203
01:16:59,400 --> 01:17:04,479
Speaker 2: huge bucket that you carry with you everywhere, and it's

1204
01:17:04,640 --> 01:17:07,719
Speaker 2: filled with a bunch of I don't give a bleep.

1205
01:17:09,479 --> 01:17:15,439
Speaker 2: I don't care what you think. Most powerful thing that

1206
01:17:16,200 --> 01:17:19,960
Speaker 2: a human being could have, especially now you watch teenagers

1207
01:17:19,960 --> 01:17:23,240
Speaker 2: staring at social media all day in their rooms. If

1208
01:17:23,320 --> 01:17:26,640
Speaker 2: I man, if I could go into the if I

1209
01:17:26,680 --> 01:17:31,200
Speaker 2: could go into the kitchen and cook a huge bowl

1210
01:17:31,280 --> 01:17:33,559
Speaker 2: of I don't care what other people think, I'd serve

1211
01:17:33,600 --> 01:17:38,840
Speaker 2: it for dinner every night. It's just incredible. And that's

1212
01:17:38,920 --> 01:17:41,840
Speaker 2: what that's why you're up twenty four to six instead

1213
01:17:41,840 --> 01:17:46,000
Speaker 2: of twenty one to six, because in today's NFL you

1214
01:17:46,040 --> 01:17:52,000
Speaker 2: can't do that to sign a weakness. You're gutless. No, no, you're.

1215
01:17:51,880 --> 01:17:54,360
Speaker 3: Up by eighteen, taking all the points.

1216
01:17:55,520 --> 01:17:57,880
Speaker 2: You're up by eighteen, which you just turned a two

1217
01:17:57,920 --> 01:18:02,559
Speaker 2: score game into a three score game. Very powerful, especially

1218
01:18:02,560 --> 01:18:05,360
Speaker 2: when you have the best scoring defense in the NFL.

1219
01:18:05,720 --> 01:18:08,640
Speaker 3: I'm taking all of the points.

1220
01:18:09,840 --> 01:18:11,680
Speaker 2: I love it. I love it. I sat there and

1221
01:18:11,680 --> 01:18:13,479
Speaker 2: looked at it, and I'm like, man, when the PI

1222
01:18:13,640 --> 01:18:16,920
Speaker 2: got thrown, because they were already like, well, throw corner

1223
01:18:16,920 --> 01:18:18,160
Speaker 2: of the end zone. If we don't get it, we

1224
01:18:18,200 --> 01:18:20,240
Speaker 2: kick a field goal. But then the PI got called.

1225
01:18:21,400 --> 01:18:24,040
Speaker 2: How many coaches would have gotten wooed into going.

1226
01:18:23,920 --> 01:18:25,000
Speaker 3: For man a bunch?

1227
01:18:26,520 --> 01:18:27,559
Speaker 2: Almost all of them?

1228
01:18:27,600 --> 01:18:29,519
Speaker 3: Right, yeah, we're not doing that. Let me just get

1229
01:18:29,560 --> 01:18:30,559
Speaker 3: your points and move on.

1230
01:18:32,400 --> 01:18:34,800
Speaker 2: Twenty four to six is that's that's a big boy half.

1231
01:18:36,560 --> 01:18:38,880
Speaker 2: That's a big boy half. And it fits right into

1232
01:18:38,880 --> 01:18:40,240
Speaker 2: what I was gonna ask you. You said there's the

1233
01:18:40,280 --> 01:18:43,519
Speaker 2: only three elite quarterbacks. I wonder I wonder if some

1234
01:18:43,560 --> 01:18:46,599
Speaker 2: people went, okay, from I see what you mean.

1235
01:18:46,640 --> 01:18:55,040
Speaker 3: But Burrow, no, no, Doll Burrow elite quarterback. He's not.

1236
01:18:55,240 --> 01:19:00,920
Speaker 4: He's a good quarterback. He's a really good quarterback. You know,

1237
01:19:01,160 --> 01:19:05,080
Speaker 4: this is a good quarterback. Rock Party is a good quarterback.

1238
01:19:05,200 --> 01:19:11,320
Speaker 4: Tool is a good quarterback. All these quarterbacks are good quarterbacks.

1239
01:19:13,800 --> 01:19:27,240
Speaker 4: But having Joe Burrow start every year below five Huntred,

1240
01:19:28,880 --> 01:19:34,320
Speaker 4: I mean no, man, no, I mean no.

1241
01:19:34,479 --> 01:19:37,040
Speaker 2: People right now. And I know that this is this

1242
01:19:37,120 --> 01:19:40,760
Speaker 2: is what fantasy does. But people will look at the

1243
01:19:40,840 --> 01:19:43,439
Speaker 2: stat line on Joe and they'll.

1244
01:19:43,280 --> 01:19:46,200
Speaker 3: Be like, no, I'm not talking about stats.

1245
01:19:46,720 --> 01:19:51,160
Speaker 2: He's leading the league in yardage. His ten to interception

1246
01:19:51,360 --> 01:19:56,360
Speaker 2: ratio is twenty four to four. Only Lamar has a

1247
01:19:56,439 --> 01:19:57,599
Speaker 2: higher quarterback rating.

1248
01:19:57,760 --> 01:20:02,880
Speaker 3: That's it. He's probably right, and take all that home

1249
01:20:02,920 --> 01:20:09,240
Speaker 3: with him because you started the season the way you

1250
01:20:09,280 --> 01:20:10,240
Speaker 3: started the season.

1251
01:20:10,560 --> 01:20:13,639
Speaker 2: But is that on, Joe.

1252
01:20:13,960 --> 01:20:16,679
Speaker 4: Let's talk about the other elite quarterbacks and what their

1253
01:20:16,680 --> 01:20:21,160
Speaker 4: records are. I mean, hey man, there's a lot that

1254
01:20:21,240 --> 01:20:25,160
Speaker 4: comes with being an elite quarterback. Yeah, the ultimate leader.

1255
01:20:25,840 --> 01:20:30,360
Speaker 4: You can galvanize your team. They will follow. There's not

1256
01:20:30,439 --> 01:20:34,880
Speaker 4: a lot of discord on the teams with elite quarterbacks,

1257
01:20:35,280 --> 01:20:41,600
Speaker 4: and that's been like that historically, historically has been like that.

1258
01:20:41,240 --> 01:20:42,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a good point.

1259
01:20:42,240 --> 01:20:48,600
Speaker 4: And not a lot of disgruntle you know, teammates historically

1260
01:20:48,680 --> 01:20:50,080
Speaker 4: for elite quarterbacks.

1261
01:20:52,600 --> 01:20:56,080
Speaker 2: You know who was disgruntled on Friday night? Anybody who

1262
01:20:56,120 --> 01:21:02,160
Speaker 2: watched Netflix. Let's talk about that Knights? Okay, quick aside

1263
01:21:02,200 --> 01:21:05,320
Speaker 2: from week eleven in the National Football League, and this

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Speaker 2: you would for a few minutes, explain to.

1272
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Speaker 3: Me, meet meet me, meet meet mom.

1273
01:21:39,400 --> 01:21:43,200
Speaker 2: Explain to me what I was supposed to be so

1274
01:21:43,280 --> 01:21:45,000
Speaker 2: excited about on Friday night.

1275
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Speaker 3: Entertainment? Man?

1276
01:21:49,600 --> 01:21:53,280
Speaker 2: Did you find that entertaining?

1277
01:21:53,400 --> 01:21:55,760
Speaker 3: I found the evening entertainment?

1278
01:21:56,320 --> 01:21:59,680
Speaker 2: Okay, because hold on before I get painted it with

1279
01:21:59,720 --> 01:22:03,679
Speaker 2: all the boomer energy, like, that's not what I'm saying.

1280
01:22:03,880 --> 01:22:08,759
Speaker 2: I'm not saying I'm out because it's silly social media

1281
01:22:08,920 --> 01:22:14,759
Speaker 2: YouTuber and and like, no, that ain't me. If it's fun,

1282
01:22:15,640 --> 01:22:16,320
Speaker 2: I'll be there.

1283
01:22:16,720 --> 01:22:19,200
Speaker 8: You want to I don't know, you want to raise

1284
01:22:19,200 --> 01:22:23,120
Speaker 8: snails on social media if you like. I've got kids

1285
01:22:23,200 --> 01:22:27,080
Speaker 8: running around watching Dude perfect and good good golf all day.

1286
01:22:27,680 --> 01:22:30,719
Speaker 8: I'm here for your stupid trick shots and your fun.

1287
01:22:30,880 --> 01:22:36,679
Speaker 2: I'm here. I'm here. But I fell into a little

1288
01:22:36,720 --> 01:22:40,760
Speaker 2: bit of a weird warp that particular night. We do

1289
01:22:40,920 --> 01:22:45,479
Speaker 2: our show. We finish at six, the Warriors are playing

1290
01:22:45,520 --> 01:22:47,559
Speaker 2: at seven in a home game. We lead right up

1291
01:22:47,560 --> 01:22:49,640
Speaker 2: to the game that's carried on our station, all of

1292
01:22:49,680 --> 01:22:54,439
Speaker 2: that stuff, and I'm like, in, there's a Warrior game tonight,

1293
01:22:55,439 --> 01:23:01,120
Speaker 2: and everybody around me is like, dude, Tyson and Jake

1294
01:23:01,200 --> 01:23:04,040
Speaker 2: Paul and you gotta watch this thing and it's free,

1295
01:23:04,880 --> 01:23:09,160
Speaker 2: and I'm like, look, if it fits, I'll check it out,

1296
01:23:09,200 --> 01:23:12,080
Speaker 2: but I'm not gonna like turn the Warrior game off

1297
01:23:12,080 --> 01:23:13,640
Speaker 2: of this. Well, then the Warriors go up by a

1298
01:23:13,640 --> 01:23:15,920
Speaker 2: bunch of points and my girl is here and she's like,

1299
01:23:15,960 --> 01:23:20,439
Speaker 2: come on, let's check it out. I'm like, fine, I

1300
01:23:20,520 --> 01:23:23,800
Speaker 2: don't want to be the fuddy duddy again. I'm gonna

1301
01:23:23,800 --> 01:23:26,840
Speaker 2: turn this on. And then I sat there and I

1302
01:23:26,920 --> 01:23:30,920
Speaker 2: watched for the better part of an hour, and I'm like,

1303
01:23:32,800 --> 01:23:36,280
Speaker 2: did anybody else did you have fun? Was that fun?

1304
01:23:38,560 --> 01:23:39,160
Speaker 3: Hey? Man?

1305
01:23:40,400 --> 01:23:40,720
Speaker 2: Was it?

1306
01:23:41,680 --> 01:23:42,479
Speaker 3: I enjoyed it?

1307
01:23:43,200 --> 01:23:43,639
Speaker 2: You did?

1308
01:23:44,000 --> 01:23:44,280
Speaker 3: Yes?

1309
01:23:45,280 --> 01:23:47,000
Speaker 2: More than just the build up, I get it. And

1310
01:23:47,000 --> 01:23:50,920
Speaker 2: if you enjoyed the build up, everybody wanted to know, right,

1311
01:23:51,040 --> 01:23:53,320
Speaker 2: is Mike gonna look fifty eight or is Mike gonna

1312
01:23:53,360 --> 01:23:54,040
Speaker 2: look like Mike.

1313
01:23:54,360 --> 01:23:57,120
Speaker 4: I'm not even talking about that part. I'm talking about

1314
01:23:57,200 --> 01:24:05,480
Speaker 4: what's joy the undercar. Those fire were unbelievable, okay.

1315
01:24:04,800 --> 01:24:04,880
Speaker 2: But.

1316
01:24:06,479 --> 01:24:10,519
Speaker 4: No, it was packed in there, like seriously, so I

1317
01:24:10,520 --> 01:24:15,800
Speaker 4: don't know what people thought was about to happen. I'm

1318
01:24:15,800 --> 01:24:20,600
Speaker 4: a little bit too old to believe the hype, right, Like, so,

1319
01:24:20,760 --> 01:24:25,519
Speaker 4: remember when Floyd was Floyd, he was money made and

1320
01:24:25,560 --> 01:24:27,559
Speaker 4: they did the twenty four to seven and they did

1321
01:24:27,600 --> 01:24:29,680
Speaker 4: the fight three sixty when we went over the showtime

1322
01:24:29,720 --> 01:24:31,880
Speaker 4: and all of that stuff, and I'm gonna do this

1323
01:24:31,920 --> 01:24:33,240
Speaker 4: and I'm gonna do that, and there was so much

1324
01:24:33,360 --> 01:24:35,719
Speaker 4: energy around it. His opponents. Remember he did the twenty

1325
01:24:35,760 --> 01:24:39,360
Speaker 4: four to seven with Ricky Hadden. People were like, oh

1326
01:24:39,400 --> 01:24:44,000
Speaker 4: my god, Ricky haddn't he's gonna He's gonna give it

1327
01:24:44,040 --> 01:24:49,400
Speaker 4: to Floyd It. Go back and watch the fight. You'll

1328
01:24:49,439 --> 01:24:52,880
Speaker 4: know exactly what I'm talking about. It wasn't even I

1329
01:24:52,960 --> 01:24:56,120
Speaker 4: got you. We're gonna talk about outclass Carnelo. Same thing

1330
01:24:57,320 --> 01:25:00,360
Speaker 4: fight three sixty with Carnelo. This is young Canelo, twenty one,

1331
01:25:00,479 --> 01:25:03,800
Speaker 4: twenty two, whatever it was. He's the new and everything.

1332
01:25:04,920 --> 01:25:07,400
Speaker 4: He didn't even belong in the ring with Floyd at

1333
01:25:07,439 --> 01:25:07,760
Speaker 4: the time.

1334
01:25:09,240 --> 01:25:09,759
Speaker 3: He didn't.

1335
01:25:09,920 --> 01:25:11,800
Speaker 4: That's why De la Hoya told him not to take

1336
01:25:11,840 --> 01:25:20,120
Speaker 4: the fight. You're not ready for that. But they played

1337
01:25:20,120 --> 01:25:24,960
Speaker 4: out the way I expected them to play out. So

1338
01:25:25,240 --> 01:25:28,720
Speaker 4: when this fight was promoted, I had played out the

1339
01:25:28,800 --> 01:25:32,320
Speaker 4: only thing I didn't want him to do. And there

1340
01:25:32,400 --> 01:25:36,200
Speaker 4: was such a level of respect for Mike Tyson that

1341
01:25:36,240 --> 01:25:40,519
Speaker 4: he didn't knock him out because he could have. He

1342
01:25:40,600 --> 01:25:45,160
Speaker 4: could have Mike Tyson fifty eight years old, and so

1343
01:25:46,560 --> 01:25:51,719
Speaker 4: that wasn't the play. It was to create an event

1344
01:25:51,840 --> 01:25:57,160
Speaker 4: where eighty thousand people came to at and T Stadium

1345
01:25:58,240 --> 01:26:01,720
Speaker 4: and finally, for the first time this year, we're entertained

1346
01:26:03,200 --> 01:26:09,200
Speaker 4: in that stadium and it was amazing. One hundred and

1347
01:26:09,400 --> 01:26:14,960
Speaker 4: ten countries watched it a gate of twenty million dollars.

1348
01:26:16,400 --> 01:26:21,240
Speaker 4: Mike Tyson made about twenty five thirty million dollars, which

1349
01:26:21,280 --> 01:26:26,439
Speaker 4: I'm extremely happy for. He wasn't embarrassed because he's a

1350
01:26:26,560 --> 01:26:30,719
Speaker 4: fifty eight year old. Any other person Jake Paul has fought,

1351
01:26:31,080 --> 01:26:37,400
Speaker 4: he's tried to knock them completely out, but there's such

1352
01:26:37,400 --> 01:26:39,879
Speaker 4: a level on you. You saw the level of respect

1353
01:26:39,960 --> 01:26:42,280
Speaker 4: after the fight for each other. This is a young

1354
01:26:42,360 --> 01:26:46,599
Speaker 4: kid who's made his comeuppings in you know, social media

1355
01:26:46,640 --> 01:26:49,479
Speaker 4: and all of that, and he has a following. But

1356
01:26:49,560 --> 01:26:57,040
Speaker 4: what we're realizing is he can really promote and put

1357
01:26:57,080 --> 01:27:03,480
Speaker 4: on an event. That's that's what it's all. Entertainment boxing

1358
01:27:03,720 --> 01:27:09,840
Speaker 4: traditional boxing has lost the gusto it once had and

1359
01:27:09,880 --> 01:27:14,800
Speaker 4: once held the world when it came to combat sports.

1360
01:27:15,520 --> 01:27:21,519
Speaker 4: That's why MMA is so much better, and some people's opinions,

1361
01:27:21,280 --> 01:27:27,920
Speaker 4: it draws a bigger crowd because it's visceral, it's entertainment.

1362
01:27:28,000 --> 01:27:35,680
Speaker 4: It's half circus, it's half carnage. And so the undercard,

1363
01:27:36,479 --> 01:27:41,599
Speaker 4: the Cole Maine event between the ladies, that was, I mean,

1364
01:27:41,760 --> 01:27:44,719
Speaker 4: that's gotta be Fighter of the Year again. They sold

1365
01:27:44,720 --> 01:27:48,000
Speaker 4: out Madison Square Garden for the first one. So when

1366
01:27:48,080 --> 01:27:50,519
Speaker 4: you start seeing in the fight before that was also

1367
01:27:51,400 --> 01:27:55,600
Speaker 4: a Welat title fight, and that was, you know, a

1368
01:27:55,720 --> 01:27:59,320
Speaker 4: knockdown drag out. So when you saw the card he

1369
01:27:59,400 --> 01:28:04,559
Speaker 4: put together, you understood, oh, he's coming to entertain He's

1370
01:28:04,600 --> 01:28:09,680
Speaker 4: going to give the fans something really to watch. And

1371
01:28:09,720 --> 01:28:14,599
Speaker 4: then the last thing, the main thing is it's just

1372
01:28:14,720 --> 01:28:16,440
Speaker 4: for you know, exhibition.

1373
01:28:16,600 --> 01:28:20,360
Speaker 3: It's just the cherry on the cake.

1374
01:28:20,439 --> 01:28:26,559
Speaker 4: Like Mike Tyson at fifty eight, the gloves were big,

1375
01:28:27,160 --> 01:28:28,880
Speaker 4: as big as you can have, I think sixteen ounce

1376
01:28:28,960 --> 01:28:31,800
Speaker 4: whatever they were. The ring was double the size of

1377
01:28:31,840 --> 01:28:37,920
Speaker 4: a normal ring, right, so everything was set up so

1378
01:28:38,080 --> 01:28:44,720
Speaker 4: no one got hurt. So Mike Tyson couldn't trap Jake

1379
01:28:44,760 --> 01:28:47,680
Speaker 4: Paul in the corner, and even when he had him,

1380
01:28:47,720 --> 01:28:50,960
Speaker 4: he wasn't hitting him like you know, but Mike, Mike

1381
01:28:51,000 --> 01:28:53,519
Speaker 4: Tyson just came off of health scare. That's why they

1382
01:28:53,560 --> 01:28:56,320
Speaker 4: didn't have a fight in July. It was a way

1383
01:28:56,840 --> 01:29:00,360
Speaker 4: of kind of paying homage to to who won was

1384
01:29:00,400 --> 01:29:01,160
Speaker 4: the baddest man.

1385
01:29:01,240 --> 01:29:01,479
Speaker 3: I know.

1386
01:29:01,560 --> 01:29:03,840
Speaker 4: It had to feel good for Mike to come out

1387
01:29:03,840 --> 01:29:08,120
Speaker 4: there with all the fanfare and all of that. Uh,

1388
01:29:08,160 --> 01:29:11,240
Speaker 4: and he made a lot of money to go have

1389
01:29:11,280 --> 01:29:14,519
Speaker 4: some fun with a kid. And that's what I was

1390
01:29:14,560 --> 01:29:17,879
Speaker 4: going into the into it for. I wasn't going into

1391
01:29:18,000 --> 01:29:21,720
Speaker 4: it to see Mike make a resurgence, to see the

1392
01:29:21,840 --> 01:29:26,640
Speaker 4: boxing of technician, and that I wasn't going in. I

1393
01:29:26,680 --> 01:29:32,400
Speaker 4: didn't even expect that. So if people's expectations were that

1394
01:29:32,560 --> 01:29:35,519
Speaker 4: Mike Tyson was gonna come in and knock Jake Paul out,

1395
01:29:35,560 --> 01:29:36,679
Speaker 4: they haven't been paying attention.

1396
01:29:37,439 --> 01:29:40,439
Speaker 3: And that's not all. That's not my fault, that's all fine.

1397
01:29:40,680 --> 01:29:44,600
Speaker 2: No, I didn't come in with any expectations. My expectations

1398
01:29:44,640 --> 01:29:49,640
Speaker 2: were watched the Warrior game. That was my expectation.

1399
01:29:51,000 --> 01:29:53,000
Speaker 3: If you had asked me, you got TVO, don't you?

1400
01:29:54,800 --> 01:29:56,479
Speaker 3: I mean DVR?

1401
01:29:56,920 --> 01:30:03,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, I got DVR. GOTV trying to get all distracted

1402
01:30:03,040 --> 01:30:05,439
Speaker 2: with this and whatever the hell going on on here?

1403
01:30:06,400 --> 01:30:11,000
Speaker 2: Like listen the Laker game. If you had asked me

1404
01:30:11,120 --> 01:30:16,760
Speaker 2: at noon, who's Jake Paul? The best answer I could

1405
01:30:16,760 --> 01:30:21,120
Speaker 2: have given you was like a YouTuber and he's got

1406
01:30:21,120 --> 01:30:25,760
Speaker 2: a brother. What's he do? I don't know. Man.

1407
01:30:26,080 --> 01:30:29,479
Speaker 4: Well listen, you're not old enough to be called a boomer. Okay,

1408
01:30:29,520 --> 01:30:32,280
Speaker 4: you're you're in my age. You're not right old, right,

1409
01:30:32,360 --> 01:30:34,200
Speaker 4: I'm not. I'm not even fifty yet.

1410
01:30:34,240 --> 01:30:36,800
Speaker 2: And I got teenagers in the house, so I know

1411
01:30:37,120 --> 01:30:40,960
Speaker 2: what they're tapped into. I get it. But my point

1412
01:30:41,080 --> 01:30:44,240
Speaker 2: is everything that you just said that makes a lot

1413
01:30:44,280 --> 01:30:46,720
Speaker 2: of sense if you want to think about this analytically.

1414
01:30:46,960 --> 01:30:51,799
Speaker 2: Here's my thought. What you're saying is on some level,

1415
01:30:52,080 --> 01:30:56,720
Speaker 2: on some level, this was scripted, yes, of course, Okay,

1416
01:30:57,720 --> 01:31:00,000
Speaker 2: then write a better script.

1417
01:31:00,000 --> 01:31:00,960
Speaker 3: I think the script was fine.

1418
01:31:01,360 --> 01:31:02,160
Speaker 2: No, it wasn't.

1419
01:31:02,360 --> 01:31:06,200
Speaker 3: It was a snooze, of course, because from someone.

1420
01:31:07,439 --> 01:31:10,599
Speaker 2: You can have the table set as beautifully as you want.

1421
01:31:11,000 --> 01:31:14,160
Speaker 2: You can gather everybody to your party, just like you said.

1422
01:31:14,640 --> 01:31:18,120
Speaker 2: You can have millions watch, you can have thousands and

1423
01:31:18,200 --> 01:31:19,240
Speaker 2: thousands show up.

1424
01:31:19,320 --> 01:31:21,960
Speaker 3: You know what happens when you get it on a

1425
01:31:22,080 --> 01:31:23,120
Speaker 3: crappy party.

1426
01:31:23,200 --> 01:31:24,759
Speaker 2: They don't want to come back.

1427
01:31:25,439 --> 01:31:28,320
Speaker 4: They're going to come back and drove they're coming back.

1428
01:31:28,320 --> 01:31:33,040
Speaker 4: It doesn't they're watch why Look many him and his

1429
01:31:33,080 --> 01:31:35,479
Speaker 4: brother have found out a way to entertain people at

1430
01:31:35,479 --> 01:31:39,880
Speaker 4: a high level. Sure that people that that people may

1431
01:31:39,920 --> 01:31:42,680
Speaker 4: not be you, no, but not this. But guess what

1432
01:31:43,000 --> 01:31:43,240
Speaker 4: do it?

1433
01:31:43,600 --> 01:31:44,120
Speaker 3: It did? Man?

1434
01:31:44,200 --> 01:31:45,080
Speaker 2: It did.

1435
01:31:45,080 --> 01:31:47,760
Speaker 3: It broke all ther server went down, It did all

1436
01:31:47,760 --> 01:31:48,479
Speaker 3: the all the things.

1437
01:31:48,520 --> 01:31:50,760
Speaker 2: I can get it right because at that point we

1438
01:31:50,840 --> 01:31:52,640
Speaker 2: didn't know what kind of a crap show we were

1439
01:31:52,640 --> 01:31:53,280
Speaker 2: about to see.

1440
01:31:53,720 --> 01:31:55,920
Speaker 3: Look, you got to bring them back.

1441
01:31:56,680 --> 01:32:00,160
Speaker 4: No, no, no, no, they're coming back. You know why,

1442
01:32:00,760 --> 01:32:04,200
Speaker 4: because it'll be like he said, he said it, he said.

1443
01:32:05,160 --> 01:32:07,479
Speaker 4: They were like, who do you want next? You want Canelo? Right,

1444
01:32:08,320 --> 01:32:11,120
Speaker 4: he was like, Canelo needs me. If he wants the

1445
01:32:11,200 --> 01:32:15,840
Speaker 4: big money fight, he needs me. But as arrogant as

1446
01:32:15,880 --> 01:32:20,880
Speaker 4: that is, as arrogant as that is, there's some truth

1447
01:32:20,920 --> 01:32:21,200
Speaker 4: to it.

1448
01:32:22,200 --> 01:32:22,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, there is.

1449
01:32:23,560 --> 01:32:27,599
Speaker 4: And so the only person fighting and selling out football

1450
01:32:27,640 --> 01:32:34,120
Speaker 4: arenas it was Floyd. There's no one Floyd, and there's

1451
01:32:34,160 --> 01:32:37,799
Speaker 4: no Likes. There's no one like that in the space.

1452
01:32:38,880 --> 01:32:41,880
Speaker 4: There's no one like that in the space. And so

1453
01:32:42,080 --> 01:32:46,360
Speaker 4: you have to create pageantry around what you have, right,

1454
01:32:46,920 --> 01:32:51,840
Speaker 4: Not only that, it just it. Like I'm telling you,

1455
01:32:51,960 --> 01:32:55,920
Speaker 4: it was crazy to see it was on Netflix. You

1456
01:32:55,960 --> 01:33:00,839
Speaker 4: didn't have to do the you you just it on Netflix.

1457
01:33:00,960 --> 01:33:03,519
Speaker 2: Just flip it on. Yeah. The most annoying part is

1458
01:33:03,520 --> 01:33:06,320
Speaker 2: you might have to toggle to a new HDMI for

1459
01:33:06,360 --> 01:33:07,280
Speaker 2: your streaming.

1460
01:33:06,960 --> 01:33:07,760
Speaker 3: Service, right.

1461
01:33:07,840 --> 01:33:14,519
Speaker 4: But what happened is it's it's what becoming a showman

1462
01:33:14,800 --> 01:33:20,280
Speaker 4: is all about the traditional ways of marketing and having

1463
01:33:20,360 --> 01:33:24,360
Speaker 4: people watch, you know, fights and stuff like that. Like

1464
01:33:24,520 --> 01:33:31,960
Speaker 4: UFC John Jones fought Saturday the next day. I love

1465
01:33:32,000 --> 01:33:34,000
Speaker 4: to know what those numbers were compared to the Jake

1466
01:33:34,040 --> 01:33:38,439
Speaker 4: Paul fight, a fake fight. Just so we're clear, it

1467
01:33:38,520 --> 01:33:42,760
Speaker 4: was a fake fight. It didn't count. It doesn't go

1468
01:33:42,800 --> 01:33:47,919
Speaker 4: on your like. It was a fake fight. It wasn't sanctioned. Okay,

1469
01:33:48,320 --> 01:33:52,719
Speaker 4: And eighty five thousand people are eighty thousand people showed

1470
01:33:52,840 --> 01:33:56,320
Speaker 4: up right for an exhibition.

1471
01:33:56,120 --> 01:33:57,519
Speaker 2: But they're coming to the next one too.

1472
01:33:58,120 --> 01:33:59,639
Speaker 3: They came to the ones before this.

1473
01:34:00,560 --> 01:34:03,680
Speaker 2: There were they were there wasn't anything like this before, Yeah,

1474
01:34:03,720 --> 01:34:05,720
Speaker 2: but it was there weren't anything like this.

1475
01:34:05,840 --> 01:34:10,400
Speaker 3: We thought Tyrone Woodley and then Jack his brother.

1476
01:34:10,880 --> 01:34:11,960
Speaker 2: And who the hell is that?

1477
01:34:12,160 --> 01:34:15,040
Speaker 3: Like nobody Logan thought Floyd remember that.

1478
01:34:15,520 --> 01:34:19,400
Speaker 2: But this is the mainstream. This is the mainstream. Like

1479
01:34:19,520 --> 01:34:21,880
Speaker 2: they brought the beauty of this is it brought the

1480
01:34:21,960 --> 01:34:25,680
Speaker 2: eighteen year old and the sixty year old together. Yeah,

1481
01:34:25,920 --> 01:34:29,719
Speaker 2: it brought them together. And I'd argue that most people

1482
01:34:29,760 --> 01:34:33,879
Speaker 2: I've talked to walked away going, well, I mean okay,

1483
01:34:35,080 --> 01:34:39,679
Speaker 2: I'd like, hey, brother, I can tell you this next

1484
01:34:39,720 --> 01:34:42,439
Speaker 2: time it comes around, and everyone around me like, I

1485
01:34:42,600 --> 01:34:47,200
Speaker 2: gotta watch. Thanks, the warriors are in Charlotte. I'm good.

1486
01:34:48,840 --> 01:34:51,080
Speaker 2: Like you didn't do anything, just sat there and stared

1487
01:34:51,120 --> 01:34:52,800
Speaker 2: at each other for forty five minutes.

1488
01:34:52,840 --> 01:34:54,000
Speaker 3: Did he cost you anything?

1489
01:34:55,520 --> 01:34:59,639
Speaker 2: No? It didn't. Well kind of, I mean.

1490
01:34:59,560 --> 01:35:02,800
Speaker 4: Well chose to put it on. I mean that's a

1491
01:35:02,920 --> 01:35:05,040
Speaker 4: you issue, not not them issue.

1492
01:35:05,280 --> 01:35:07,160
Speaker 2: Guy's gonna do what his lady asked him to do.

1493
01:35:07,280 --> 01:35:10,200
Speaker 4: Well now now so and if they have another one

1494
01:35:10,240 --> 01:35:12,040
Speaker 4: and she wants to watch it, then you're gonna watch

1495
01:35:12,080 --> 01:35:14,840
Speaker 4: it again. So you're doing all this hollabalu, and if

1496
01:35:14,840 --> 01:35:17,519
Speaker 4: your lady wants to watch it, you're gonna watch it again.

1497
01:35:18,520 --> 01:35:20,080
Speaker 4: So all right, we'll see.

1498
01:35:20,160 --> 01:35:22,519
Speaker 2: Now, Okay, man, Mary, what do you want to say?

1499
01:35:22,560 --> 01:35:23,200
Speaker 2: What do you say?

1500
01:35:23,200 --> 01:35:23,439
Speaker 3: Mary?

1501
01:35:23,479 --> 01:35:25,880
Speaker 9: I was gonna say, the thing is like also like

1502
01:35:26,080 --> 01:35:28,240
Speaker 9: for the fight, you also also realize, like you have

1503
01:35:28,320 --> 01:35:30,680
Speaker 9: a bunch of gen zs who know who Mike Tyson is,

1504
01:35:30,720 --> 01:35:33,920
Speaker 9: and we also like know who Jake Paul is. I

1505
01:35:33,960 --> 01:35:37,200
Speaker 9: think everybody collectively just wanted to see Mike Tyson what

1506
01:35:37,360 --> 01:35:38,120
Speaker 9: Jake Paul's asked.

1507
01:35:38,320 --> 01:35:40,040
Speaker 10: But that's that's the bottom line of it.

1508
01:35:40,160 --> 01:35:42,519
Speaker 4: You're right, And the reality of it was it wasn't

1509
01:35:42,520 --> 01:35:45,040
Speaker 4: gonna happen because he's fifty.

1510
01:35:44,680 --> 01:35:48,640
Speaker 10: Eight, I mean one hundred percent. But I also like watching.

1511
01:35:48,280 --> 01:35:50,439
Speaker 3: It thirty years older than him.

1512
01:35:50,560 --> 01:35:52,479
Speaker 10: I genuinely feel like Mike could have done it to

1513
01:35:52,520 --> 01:35:53,320
Speaker 10: him so bad.

1514
01:35:53,360 --> 01:35:54,960
Speaker 3: But yeah, but he's not going to do it.

1515
01:35:55,040 --> 01:35:57,280
Speaker 10: You know why from the line, Oh my gosh, he's.

1516
01:35:57,120 --> 01:35:59,200
Speaker 4: Not gonna do it, because it's part of the contract.

1517
01:35:59,280 --> 01:36:02,160
Speaker 4: You might They just paid Mike ties to twenty five minutes,

1518
01:36:02,200 --> 01:36:04,280
Speaker 4: twenty five million dollars to do nothing.

1519
01:36:05,280 --> 01:36:08,240
Speaker 10: That's a real easy miny though, to do nothing.

1520
01:36:08,760 --> 01:36:10,360
Speaker 2: I don't want to watch people do nothing.

1521
01:36:10,360 --> 01:36:11,320
Speaker 3: It was sixteen minutes.

1522
01:36:11,360 --> 01:36:15,200
Speaker 4: There were two minute rounds, do something, do something.

1523
01:36:15,280 --> 01:36:17,200
Speaker 10: I don't know what you expected because like.

1524
01:36:17,160 --> 01:36:20,360
Speaker 4: Everybody, everybody, everybody.

1525
01:36:19,360 --> 01:36:21,240
Speaker 9: Knew that it wasn't like real, But it was just

1526
01:36:21,240 --> 01:36:24,400
Speaker 9: like we did have that hope of like maybe he

1527
01:36:24,479 --> 01:36:28,559
Speaker 9: will actually just last two minutes, bug out and just maybe.

1528
01:36:28,760 --> 01:36:32,080
Speaker 2: But like I wasn't. I wasn't there for the expectations.

1529
01:36:32,120 --> 01:36:34,960
Speaker 2: I didn't care who punched who. I'm just like, show

1530
01:36:35,040 --> 01:36:36,599
Speaker 2: me something.

1531
01:36:37,360 --> 01:36:39,600
Speaker 9: This shot with you was curious. That's the thing, and

1532
01:36:39,880 --> 01:36:42,000
Speaker 9: that's what drives you to like go and watch.

1533
01:36:42,120 --> 01:36:42,479
Speaker 10: That's the thing.

1534
01:36:42,600 --> 01:36:44,559
Speaker 9: Is like when you when you know marketing and when

1535
01:36:44,600 --> 01:36:46,800
Speaker 9: you know, like you're in YouTube for so long, Jake

1536
01:36:46,840 --> 01:36:50,080
Speaker 9: Paul knows, Hey, any publicity, whether it's good or bad,

1537
01:36:50,120 --> 01:36:51,360
Speaker 9: it's my name is out there.

1538
01:36:51,360 --> 01:36:52,960
Speaker 2: Well, absolutely.

1539
01:36:53,800 --> 01:36:57,760
Speaker 3: Do some true but you got to do something to

1540
01:36:57,800 --> 01:36:59,800
Speaker 3: make me listen.

1541
01:36:59,640 --> 01:37:01,679
Speaker 2: If I'm curious next time.

1542
01:37:01,560 --> 01:37:06,200
Speaker 4: It doesn't listen to what I'm telling. We're we all

1543
01:37:06,240 --> 01:37:10,840
Speaker 4: know who created the blueprint for this. We all know

1544
01:37:11,120 --> 01:37:15,760
Speaker 4: I told the story about it earlier. Floyd Mayweather created

1545
01:37:15,960 --> 01:37:21,799
Speaker 4: the blueprint for how to market fights. But it doesn't

1546
01:37:21,800 --> 01:37:25,879
Speaker 4: matter the album. Listen, listen, listen, listen.

1547
01:37:25,720 --> 01:37:26,400
Speaker 3: To what I'm saying.

1548
01:37:26,479 --> 01:37:31,880
Speaker 4: Man, the pump in the circumstance, I'm knocking them out.

1549
01:37:31,960 --> 01:37:35,519
Speaker 4: I'm doing this and bad intentions. The fight comes on

1550
01:37:37,280 --> 01:37:42,560
Speaker 4: and you yawn because number one, Floyd is a technician.

1551
01:37:42,760 --> 01:37:47,439
Speaker 4: Is a technician, right, He's not going to let you

1552
01:37:47,560 --> 01:37:50,720
Speaker 4: hit him, so he's not going to even tee off

1553
01:37:50,800 --> 01:37:54,240
Speaker 4: on you to open himself up to hit you. So

1554
01:37:54,439 --> 01:37:58,719
Speaker 4: after a majority of Floyd's fights, no matter who he's fighting,

1555
01:37:59,320 --> 01:38:02,559
Speaker 4: people felt the same way. Damn I would. I thought

1556
01:38:02,560 --> 01:38:05,200
Speaker 4: that no. I thought he was going to leave, not

1557
01:38:05,280 --> 01:38:10,280
Speaker 4: giving no over and over again. But guess what they

1558
01:38:10,360 --> 01:38:12,880
Speaker 4: kept tuning in when he flowed, when he fought Pacchio,

1559
01:38:14,080 --> 01:38:17,519
Speaker 4: when he fought de la Joya, even when he fought Canelo,

1560
01:38:18,840 --> 01:38:23,400
Speaker 4: Ricky hadden't all the pump, the circumstances leading up to it,

1561
01:38:23,760 --> 01:38:25,960
Speaker 4: the greatest show on Earth. And then he got in

1562
01:38:26,040 --> 01:38:28,240
Speaker 4: there and he does what he always does. You're not

1563
01:38:28,280 --> 01:38:31,479
Speaker 4: gonna hit me, I'm not gonna knock you out, but

1564
01:38:31,560 --> 01:38:34,760
Speaker 4: I'm gonna be a better boxer than you. That's not exciting.

1565
01:38:35,439 --> 01:38:39,720
Speaker 4: It's not exciting for anybody who likes for anybody who

1566
01:38:39,840 --> 01:38:40,960
Speaker 4: likes boxing.

1567
01:38:41,040 --> 01:38:43,280
Speaker 3: But that's why they gave you the undercard. They gave you.

1568
01:38:43,439 --> 01:38:46,080
Speaker 3: They gave you some real fights on those undercards.

1569
01:38:46,280 --> 01:38:48,280
Speaker 2: Do you know how many people showed up with the undercard?

1570
01:38:48,760 --> 01:38:52,200
Speaker 2: That's a lot less. I didn't watch. I didn't watch

1571
01:38:52,240 --> 01:38:53,120
Speaker 2: you under card, So let.

1572
01:38:53,080 --> 01:38:55,240
Speaker 3: Me let me, let me put you up on game.

1573
01:38:55,760 --> 01:38:56,559
Speaker 3: Let me put you on the game.

1574
01:38:56,640 --> 01:38:59,320
Speaker 4: The first fight they had on the undercard, it was

1575
01:39:00,200 --> 01:39:03,519
Speaker 4: an Indian boxer from India. They're one of their you know,

1576
01:39:04,600 --> 01:39:08,360
Speaker 4: most prize fighters in India. How many people in India

1577
01:39:08,400 --> 01:39:11,599
Speaker 4: and how many people in India have Netflix? If wait

1578
01:39:11,640 --> 01:39:15,640
Speaker 4: a minute, he's fighting exactly, but they do idea, but

1579
01:39:15,720 --> 01:39:17,719
Speaker 4: he does. That's what I'm That's why they were there.

1580
01:39:18,120 --> 01:39:26,400
Speaker 4: He was fighting against someone from Brazil. Fifty million followers.

1581
01:39:26,680 --> 01:39:30,719
Speaker 2: I'm not telling you this event was unsuccessful. I'm telling

1582
01:39:30,800 --> 01:39:33,200
Speaker 2: you it did a crappy job of setting up the

1583
01:39:33,240 --> 01:39:33,760
Speaker 2: next one.

1584
01:39:34,280 --> 01:39:34,719
Speaker 3: It didn't.

1585
01:39:34,840 --> 01:39:37,439
Speaker 11: You know, you can watch a movie, you may love

1586
01:39:37,479 --> 01:39:43,240
Speaker 11: it any Batman, Superman, Marvel. If those things don't end

1587
01:39:43,320 --> 01:39:45,120
Speaker 11: by setting up the next one.

1588
01:39:45,320 --> 01:39:46,600
Speaker 2: Then they did a disservice.

1589
01:39:46,680 --> 01:39:49,720
Speaker 4: This isn't the good movie or not. This isn't like that,

1590
01:39:50,080 --> 01:39:53,519
Speaker 4: because guess what sets up the next one? The character

1591
01:39:53,680 --> 01:39:57,200
Speaker 4: you pick to play in the next one, Nah, like

1592
01:39:57,920 --> 01:40:00,679
Speaker 4: with you next one, and it will be so just you.

1593
01:40:01,240 --> 01:40:03,160
Speaker 4: It'll just be you, It'll be you.

1594
01:40:04,160 --> 01:40:05,559
Speaker 2: We'll see. We'll see about that.

1595
01:40:05,640 --> 01:40:08,959
Speaker 3: I promise you'll say about that. The numbers speak for themselves.

1596
01:40:08,960 --> 01:40:11,640
Speaker 4: They've been doing this for they've been doing this about

1597
01:40:12,840 --> 01:40:13,760
Speaker 4: five years now.

1598
01:40:14,000 --> 01:40:17,040
Speaker 2: No, this this has been this is different, This is

1599
01:40:17,080 --> 01:40:20,559
Speaker 2: different than all though it's not different. Well, okay, all right,

1600
01:40:20,600 --> 01:40:24,040
Speaker 2: we got more coming up with it from Salam Mark Willard.

1601
01:40:24,040 --> 01:40:28,439
Speaker 2: This is Fox Sports Radio. Okay, these athetie rag dot

1602
01:40:28,439 --> 01:40:31,920
Speaker 2: com studios. Right after the show, the podcast goes up.

1603
01:40:32,000 --> 01:40:35,320
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1604
01:40:35,439 --> 01:40:38,080
Speaker 2: check it out on the podcast. Just search for Fox

1605
01:40:38,120 --> 01:40:40,320
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1606
01:40:40,320 --> 01:40:44,000
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1607
01:40:44,080 --> 01:40:46,160
Speaker 2: Radio wherever you get your podcast. You'll see this show

1608
01:40:46,200 --> 01:40:49,720
Speaker 2: posted right after we get off the air. That is

1609
01:40:49,800 --> 01:40:53,719
Speaker 2: it from Salam. I am Mark Willard. With the Cincinnati

1610
01:40:53,800 --> 01:40:58,439
Speaker 2: Bengals got themselves into a situation of, i mean an

1611
01:40:58,479 --> 01:41:00,760
Speaker 2: early trip to having to go for it on fourth down,

1612
01:41:00,800 --> 01:41:02,800
Speaker 2: but they got it. They got a two score game,

1613
01:41:04,600 --> 01:41:08,040
Speaker 2: fourth and goal from the five. Jamar Chase a touchdown

1614
01:41:09,000 --> 01:41:13,080
Speaker 2: twenty seven thirteen is now the score. Martin Wise will

1615
01:41:13,080 --> 01:41:15,200
Speaker 2: be along with everything here in just a couple of minutes.

1616
01:41:15,200 --> 01:41:19,160
Speaker 2: But I'm pretty impressed by the Los Angeles Chargers. And

1617
01:41:19,200 --> 01:41:21,400
Speaker 2: that's the first time I've ever said that statement in

1618
01:41:21,439 --> 01:41:22,040
Speaker 2: my life.

1619
01:41:22,920 --> 01:41:23,200
Speaker 3: Ever.

1620
01:41:24,040 --> 01:41:25,320
Speaker 2: Well, Los Angeles.

1621
01:41:25,439 --> 01:41:27,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, the first time.

1622
01:41:27,160 --> 01:41:30,320
Speaker 2: I yes, I am impressed by the Los Angeles Chargers.

1623
01:41:30,400 --> 01:41:31,840
Speaker 2: I don't even like calling them.

1624
01:41:31,720 --> 01:41:35,599
Speaker 3: That that tracks. Yeah, they got a good team. Good

1625
01:41:35,680 --> 01:41:37,880
Speaker 3: team they are, they are.

1626
01:41:38,600 --> 01:41:41,559
Speaker 2: And Jordan Schultz just tweeted out that he got a

1627
01:41:41,640 --> 01:41:46,280
Speaker 2: text from an NFC exact saying, like the whole a

1628
01:41:46,360 --> 01:41:48,800
Speaker 2: bunch of teams in the conference are kicking themselves for

1629
01:41:48,840 --> 01:41:50,479
Speaker 2: not hiring Jim when they had a change.

1630
01:41:52,800 --> 01:41:55,680
Speaker 3: They blew that seriously, like.

1631
01:41:58,640 --> 01:42:03,280
Speaker 4: Leadership is is is paramount. You give all the pieces,

1632
01:42:03,880 --> 01:42:06,720
Speaker 4: you have everything you need, but if you don't have

1633
01:42:06,760 --> 01:42:11,400
Speaker 4: the leadership, they're actually this is probably the least amount

1634
01:42:11,439 --> 01:42:18,639
Speaker 4: of talent the Chargers have had offensively, and they're playing

1635
01:42:18,640 --> 01:42:24,120
Speaker 4: the best. I mean, they've had Pro Bowl receivers, they've

1636
01:42:24,160 --> 01:42:28,960
Speaker 4: had the tight ends, they've had it all, and so

1637
01:42:29,960 --> 01:42:36,320
Speaker 4: what was missing. I had the worst coaching in professional

1638
01:42:36,360 --> 01:42:42,280
Speaker 4: football and it shows. And so they kind of, you know,

1639
01:42:42,360 --> 01:42:47,040
Speaker 4: hit their stride. Now win this game, you know, come

1640
01:42:47,080 --> 01:42:55,320
Speaker 4: out of week eleven, you know, seven and three, I mean.

1641
01:42:58,240 --> 01:42:59,040
Speaker 3: That means something.

1642
01:42:59,520 --> 01:43:01,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean long way to go here, but but

1643
01:43:01,800 --> 01:43:03,519
Speaker 2: always long here.

1644
01:43:03,560 --> 01:43:05,360
Speaker 4: But what case in point to what we were talking

1645
01:43:05,400 --> 01:43:13,679
Speaker 4: about before, Now that field goal that they took. Yeah,

1646
01:43:13,760 --> 01:43:18,680
Speaker 4: that's that's the point. That's the point. They may end

1647
01:43:18,760 --> 01:43:25,120
Speaker 4: up winning this by three, right and good. It all matters.

1648
01:43:25,160 --> 01:43:27,200
Speaker 4: We only we only talk about it when you when

1649
01:43:27,240 --> 01:43:30,360
Speaker 4: you don't take it and you lose by two? Are

1650
01:43:30,400 --> 01:43:31,400
Speaker 4: you lose by three?

1651
01:43:31,479 --> 01:43:31,679
Speaker 2: Am?

1652
01:43:31,880 --> 01:43:32,320
Speaker 3: What of you?

1653
01:43:33,240 --> 01:43:36,920
Speaker 4: We saw with Detroit in the playoffs in the NFC

1654
01:43:37,000 --> 01:43:38,080
Speaker 4: Championship game.

1655
01:43:39,920 --> 01:43:42,080
Speaker 3: Take the points?

1656
01:43:43,320 --> 01:43:46,160
Speaker 2: Well? I like going to get Martin in here, but

1657
01:43:46,200 --> 01:43:49,760
Speaker 2: I want to ask you who were the teams that

1658
01:43:50,040 --> 01:43:54,040
Speaker 2: could have had him, that should have had him? Who

1659
01:43:54,080 --> 01:43:57,240
Speaker 2: don't have him? We can get to that here in

1660
01:43:57,439 --> 01:43:59,960
Speaker 2: uh in just a couple. But we do have Mark.

1661
01:44:00,120 --> 01:44:02,680
Speaker 2: We have him. We got him when we needed him

1662
01:44:02,680 --> 01:44:04,000
Speaker 2: in this year, and here we go.

1663
01:44:04,360 --> 01:44:06,680
Speaker 6: I know one team, my personal favorite team, the New

1664
01:44:06,800 --> 01:44:07,920
Speaker 6: Orleans Saints.

1665
01:44:07,560 --> 01:44:08,960
Speaker 3: That could have worked out.

1666
01:44:09,080 --> 01:44:12,040
Speaker 6: Could have worked out boo anyway, it's personally right now,

1667
01:44:12,200 --> 01:44:15,080
Speaker 6: are definitely working out for the Los Angeles Chargers. They

1668
01:44:15,080 --> 01:44:17,439
Speaker 6: have a fourteen point lead right now with five thirty

1669
01:44:17,520 --> 01:44:20,479
Speaker 6: left in the third quarter. Justin Herbert and the Chargers

1670
01:44:20,479 --> 01:44:22,200
Speaker 6: offense coming back out onto the field.

1671
01:44:22,240 --> 01:44:22,479
Speaker 3: Now.

1672
01:44:22,640 --> 01:44:25,000
Speaker 6: He's got two touchdown passes two twelve through the year

1673
01:44:25,040 --> 01:44:27,439
Speaker 6: and also leading the Chargers in rushing with fifty eight

1674
01:44:27,479 --> 01:44:30,120
Speaker 6: rushing yards. Well, Distey has a touchdown catch, so just

1675
01:44:30,200 --> 01:44:35,080
Speaker 6: Quintin Johnston and Jamar Chase with the touchdown catch for Cincinnati.

1676
01:44:35,280 --> 01:44:37,840
Speaker 6: There were two field goals with Evan McPherson before that.

1677
01:44:38,360 --> 01:44:41,280
Speaker 6: That's how the scoring happened there in the NBA active

1678
01:44:41,360 --> 01:44:43,880
Speaker 6: right now the Jazz and the Clippers, right now Los

1679
01:44:43,920 --> 01:44:46,640
Speaker 6: Angeles with an eighty six to sixty seven lead, three

1680
01:44:46,800 --> 01:44:49,280
Speaker 6: forty five left in the third quarter. There James Harden

1681
01:44:49,439 --> 01:44:53,000
Speaker 6: with a double double sixteen points, twelve assists in the NHL.

1682
01:44:53,840 --> 01:44:56,360
Speaker 3: Whoops, wrong button, I had it right.

1683
01:44:56,240 --> 01:45:00,080
Speaker 6: Here in the NHL and six fifty left in the

1684
01:45:00,120 --> 01:45:03,920
Speaker 6: third period between the Washington and Vegas, Washington with a

1685
01:45:04,000 --> 01:45:06,400
Speaker 6: four to two lead, with nearing the end of the

1686
01:45:06,400 --> 01:45:09,479
Speaker 6: second period, between the Rangers and the Kraken Rangers with

1687
01:45:09,560 --> 01:45:14,559
Speaker 6: a one nothing lead Nashville and Nashville and Vancouver tied

1688
01:45:14,920 --> 01:45:17,880
Speaker 6: won a piece six seventeen left in the first quarter

1689
01:45:18,680 --> 01:45:19,240
Speaker 6: first period.

1690
01:45:19,280 --> 01:45:21,120
Speaker 3: I'm sorry, ap Top twenty five pool.

1691
01:45:21,400 --> 01:45:23,640
Speaker 6: No changes in the top twenty five between Oregon they

1692
01:45:23,680 --> 01:45:26,080
Speaker 6: stay undefeated eleven and zero and they stay number one.

1693
01:45:26,120 --> 01:45:29,200
Speaker 6: Ohio State and Texas and Penn State are two, three

1694
01:45:29,240 --> 01:45:31,599
Speaker 6: and four, all of them with a nine and one record.

1695
01:45:31,640 --> 01:45:34,479
Speaker 6: Indiana undefeated at ten and oh round outs is the

1696
01:45:34,520 --> 01:45:37,639
Speaker 6: top five. Kurt Signetti Indiana head coach. He's only had

1697
01:45:37,680 --> 01:45:40,320
Speaker 6: ten games so far in his Indiana tenure, but did

1698
01:45:40,360 --> 01:45:43,880
Speaker 6: sign an eight year contract extension yesterday worth about eight

1699
01:45:44,000 --> 01:45:47,599
Speaker 6: million dollars per year with a one million dollar retention bonus.

1700
01:45:47,600 --> 01:45:50,720
Speaker 6: That deal run through twenty thirty two. So good day

1701
01:45:50,720 --> 01:45:52,360
Speaker 6: to be Kurt Signetti. Even though it was on his

1702
01:45:52,400 --> 01:45:55,360
Speaker 6: body week, he still got to win LSU unranked for

1703
01:45:55,400 --> 01:45:56,080
Speaker 6: the first.

1704
01:45:55,800 --> 01:45:58,400
Speaker 3: Time in two years. He from and Mark back to

1705
01:45:58,439 --> 01:45:58,880
Speaker 3: you guys.

1706
01:45:59,120 --> 01:46:02,240
Speaker 2: Okay, Mark, good stuff, Thank you very much, appreciate you,

1707
01:46:02,439 --> 01:46:06,200
Speaker 2: Tyre right doccom Studios. I mean, I'm looking around the NFC.

1708
01:46:07,560 --> 01:46:11,840
Speaker 2: Part of why I think Jim Harbaugh is in air

1709
01:46:11,960 --> 01:46:17,480
Speaker 2: quotes Los Angeles is because of Justin Herbert.

1710
01:46:17,880 --> 01:46:18,080
Speaker 3: Oh.

1711
01:46:18,400 --> 01:46:22,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like Jim had a situation where he could pick

1712
01:46:22,040 --> 01:46:24,680
Speaker 2: and choose a little bit, and he's not going to

1713
01:46:24,760 --> 01:46:29,200
Speaker 2: go to a franchise that doesn't have a quarterback with

1714
01:46:29,280 --> 01:46:33,599
Speaker 2: whom he thinks he can win. So who are these

1715
01:46:33,640 --> 01:46:36,479
Speaker 2: other NFC teams who could have had him and should

1716
01:46:36,479 --> 01:46:42,120
Speaker 2: have him? I mean, are we talking about Dallas, Yes, Okay,

1717
01:46:42,800 --> 01:46:46,200
Speaker 2: I get that, And yes it appears that that was

1718
01:46:46,200 --> 01:46:51,519
Speaker 2: a mistake and they'll try to rectify that now, and

1719
01:46:51,520 --> 01:46:54,360
Speaker 2: that will be very, very difficult in this particular situation

1720
01:46:55,000 --> 01:46:59,320
Speaker 2: because they've now paid Dak Prescott sixty million dollars and

1721
01:46:59,439 --> 01:47:03,160
Speaker 2: you're starting from scratch in a tough financial situation. Okay,

1722
01:47:03,160 --> 01:47:04,160
Speaker 2: there's that? Who else?

1723
01:47:06,479 --> 01:47:07,360
Speaker 3: Who else that new?

1724
01:47:07,920 --> 01:47:08,000
Speaker 2: What?

1725
01:47:08,240 --> 01:47:11,960
Speaker 3: Atlanta? Right?

1726
01:47:12,040 --> 01:47:14,759
Speaker 2: Okay, I mean Atlanta's in first place?

1727
01:47:15,320 --> 01:47:18,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, I know, but I'm saying like they in terms

1728
01:47:18,040 --> 01:47:23,400
Speaker 4: of the teams that had opportunity to uh to acquire

1729
01:47:23,479 --> 01:47:24,520
Speaker 4: his services.

1730
01:47:24,720 --> 01:47:29,719
Speaker 3: Okay, who else?

1731
01:47:30,320 --> 01:47:31,280
Speaker 2: Bears?

1732
01:47:31,320 --> 01:47:34,719
Speaker 3: The Bears? Absolutely the Bears.

1733
01:47:36,520 --> 01:47:39,400
Speaker 2: I mean I'm looking at like Seattle hired a new coach.

1734
01:47:39,840 --> 01:47:41,599
Speaker 3: Seattle, he's been he's been.

1735
01:47:41,479 --> 01:47:44,000
Speaker 2: Media, but but they don't have a quarterback. Jim Harball's

1736
01:47:44,000 --> 01:47:44,840
Speaker 2: not taking that job.

1737
01:47:45,000 --> 01:47:53,720
Speaker 4: Yeah he No, he's not taking that job. The Saints, uh, Carolina,

1738
01:47:56,120 --> 01:47:59,720
Speaker 4: at some point there should have been teams clawing to

1739
01:47:59,720 --> 01:48:00,840
Speaker 4: get to them.

1740
01:48:00,880 --> 01:48:03,200
Speaker 2: Sure, but.

1741
01:48:05,080 --> 01:48:10,479
Speaker 4: They're Look, the great teams we're consistently talking about have

1742
01:48:10,600 --> 01:48:14,040
Speaker 4: one thing in common, dynamic coaching.

1743
01:48:15,080 --> 01:48:15,719
Speaker 3: It just happened.

1744
01:48:15,800 --> 01:48:20,479
Speaker 4: You just you don't, you don't just happened into a

1745
01:48:21,600 --> 01:48:25,920
Speaker 4: right as great as Brian day Ball was in Buffalo

1746
01:48:26,439 --> 01:48:35,200
Speaker 4: with with h Josh Allen been awful in New York

1747
01:48:35,360 --> 01:48:37,519
Speaker 4: and they made awful decisions.

1748
01:48:38,920 --> 01:48:39,280
Speaker 3: And so.

1749
01:48:40,760 --> 01:48:43,919
Speaker 4: Yeah, like the talent is one thing, but the direction,

1750
01:48:44,080 --> 01:48:48,000
Speaker 4: the leadership is paramount, especially in professional sports.

1751
01:48:48,280 --> 01:48:52,200
Speaker 2: That's an interesting word that you use when you say

1752
01:48:52,400 --> 01:48:53,960
Speaker 2: the teams that are doing well, what do they have

1753
01:48:54,000 --> 01:49:00,439
Speaker 2: in common? Dynamic coaching, not just great coaching, not just

1754
01:49:00,520 --> 01:49:07,160
Speaker 2: great play calling, not dynamic coaching, like like Dan Campbell stands.

1755
01:49:06,800 --> 01:49:10,400
Speaker 4: Out, Oh, you know what dynamic means to me when

1756
01:49:10,479 --> 01:49:12,479
Speaker 4: you ain't talking about coaching in front of hit and

1757
01:49:12,520 --> 01:49:12,840
Speaker 4: all of that.

1758
01:49:15,720 --> 01:49:20,880
Speaker 3: To me, it means there's a respect level there.

1759
01:49:23,000 --> 01:49:31,519
Speaker 4: That as a player coming in and respecting someone their

1760
01:49:31,600 --> 01:49:36,600
Speaker 4: knowledge of the game, their lineage in the game, the

1761
01:49:36,800 --> 01:49:40,320
Speaker 4: vision of the game. You buy into it. I respect.

1762
01:49:40,439 --> 01:49:44,720
Speaker 4: I know you know what you're talking about, right. We

1763
01:49:44,920 --> 01:49:47,559
Speaker 4: have that. You have that in Detroit, you have that.

1764
01:49:47,760 --> 01:49:52,240
Speaker 4: In Kansas City you have that. And the Charge with the.

1765
01:49:52,240 --> 01:49:55,040
Speaker 2: Charger, Pittsburgh, Baltimore.

1766
01:49:55,439 --> 01:49:59,000
Speaker 4: San Francisco, all of these places. You have the dynamic

1767
01:50:00,200 --> 01:50:05,280
Speaker 4: you do because whatever would say, whatever you want, but

1768
01:50:05,720 --> 01:50:10,920
Speaker 4: players buy into the respect level is at a premium high.

1769
01:50:11,479 --> 01:50:14,320
Speaker 4: You know, you're not only gonna be playing at a

1770
01:50:14,400 --> 01:50:17,000
Speaker 4: high level, you'll be coached at a high level.

1771
01:50:18,520 --> 01:50:20,160
Speaker 2: Can I ask you about a couple of other teams,

1772
01:50:20,200 --> 01:50:23,280
Speaker 2: of course, and I know you're high on Like do

1773
01:50:23,360 --> 01:50:25,559
Speaker 2: they feel that way in Houston about Tomko?

1774
01:50:25,880 --> 01:50:30,320
Speaker 4: They love to Miko, love them. He's getting there, He's

1775
01:50:30,320 --> 01:50:33,280
Speaker 4: getting there, like it takes a minute, Like you can't sure.

1776
01:50:33,360 --> 01:50:35,519
Speaker 3: It's hard. Yeah, it's hard to perish it and.

1777
01:50:35,600 --> 01:50:37,760
Speaker 4: You be you be at that level unless you've done it,

1778
01:50:38,160 --> 01:50:39,400
Speaker 4: unless you've done it before.

1779
01:50:39,800 --> 01:50:42,200
Speaker 2: He won the division and won a playoff game in

1780
01:50:42,280 --> 01:50:42,720
Speaker 2: year one.

1781
01:50:42,800 --> 01:50:45,240
Speaker 3: That's it. That's how it start.

1782
01:50:45,760 --> 01:50:47,360
Speaker 2: It's going to win the division again.

1783
01:50:47,240 --> 01:50:55,240
Speaker 4: That's how it starts. Yephi, No, No, it's not, it's not. Yeah,

1784
01:50:55,400 --> 01:51:00,240
Speaker 4: So I mean any time. Definitely not in Chicago, Like

1785
01:51:00,400 --> 01:51:03,479
Speaker 4: there are places where it's void.

1786
01:51:03,400 --> 01:51:05,360
Speaker 2: Right, Well, but I'm looking at the teams that are

1787
01:51:05,400 --> 01:51:09,680
Speaker 2: good where I still might have questions, like Chicago's in

1788
01:51:09,680 --> 01:51:13,920
Speaker 2: the last place, right. I think Minnesota has it, yes,

1789
01:51:13,960 --> 01:51:17,120
Speaker 2: I think largely Green Bay has it. What about Buffalo?

1790
01:51:19,800 --> 01:51:22,360
Speaker 3: I think yes. I think yes.

1791
01:51:24,120 --> 01:51:28,200
Speaker 4: Because Josh is also an extension of the coaching staff,

1792
01:51:28,200 --> 01:51:34,080
Speaker 4: and I think I think they do because you know,

1793
01:51:34,200 --> 01:51:36,200
Speaker 4: guys want to go there. Guys want to play there.

1794
01:51:36,240 --> 01:51:43,400
Speaker 4: Buffalo is a hard sell just FYI what Yeah, So

1795
01:51:43,479 --> 01:51:46,360
Speaker 4: it takes something dynamic to get you there outside of

1796
01:51:46,520 --> 01:51:51,400
Speaker 4: the quarterback, it takes something dynamic to get you there, right,

1797
01:51:51,920 --> 01:51:57,880
Speaker 4: It's not a destination. And so I think that level

1798
01:51:58,200 --> 01:52:04,960
Speaker 4: of trust and and excellence you want to be around

1799
01:52:04,960 --> 01:52:09,120
Speaker 4: that as a player, you want to be around that,

1800
01:52:09,200 --> 01:52:11,080
Speaker 4: you know what I mean. And so it's one of

1801
01:52:11,120 --> 01:52:16,200
Speaker 4: those situations where there're a handful of teams, maybe a

1802
01:52:16,200 --> 01:52:22,719
Speaker 4: little bit more than a handful that you know you're

1803
01:52:22,800 --> 01:52:28,400
Speaker 4: going to be. Like people came out in Chicago and

1804
01:52:28,479 --> 01:52:29,960
Speaker 4: was like, hey, coach's harder?

1805
01:52:30,320 --> 01:52:34,880
Speaker 3: What right? Hey? What right?

1806
01:52:36,240 --> 01:52:40,280
Speaker 4: That's not a good a good sign what is happening

1807
01:52:40,320 --> 01:52:43,680
Speaker 4: over there? Right For someone to come out and say that,

1808
01:52:43,720 --> 01:52:48,599
Speaker 4: a veteran player to come out and say that, then okay,

1809
01:52:49,880 --> 01:52:50,519
Speaker 4: I've never.

1810
01:52:50,439 --> 01:52:51,559
Speaker 3: Never never had him.

1811
01:52:51,840 --> 01:52:53,760
Speaker 4: You never had him in the first you never had him,

1812
01:52:54,640 --> 01:52:59,400
Speaker 4: And you're letting too many things just go right. There's

1813
01:52:59,439 --> 01:53:07,960
Speaker 4: not button up, as we saw, and so you not

1814
01:53:08,160 --> 01:53:16,200
Speaker 4: wanting hardball, not wanting Belichick, not wanting.

1815
01:53:17,479 --> 01:53:23,240
Speaker 3: Mike Vrabel. It's weird to me. It's weird.

1816
01:53:27,080 --> 01:53:29,360
Speaker 2: Got a one score game by one score game got

1817
01:53:29,360 --> 01:53:32,120
Speaker 2: a one score game too, Higgins into the end zone,

1818
01:53:32,840 --> 01:53:35,880
Speaker 2: extra point pending. Yeah, we might have to take everything

1819
01:53:35,880 --> 01:53:38,200
Speaker 2: back that we said about the Chargers. Now, we'll see,

1820
01:53:39,000 --> 01:53:41,880
Speaker 2: but it's not even the fourth quarter yet. Also coming

1821
01:53:41,960 --> 01:53:46,559
Speaker 2: up next, I want to run this by you. Our

1822
01:53:46,840 --> 01:53:50,639
Speaker 2: affiliate in San Francisco, the station where I work ninety

1823
01:53:50,680 --> 01:53:54,240
Speaker 2: five to seven. The Game put out a poll of

1824
01:53:54,560 --> 01:53:58,599
Speaker 2: the issues and who is most to blame for the

1825
01:53:58,640 --> 01:54:03,680
Speaker 2: forty nine ers problem, and the four options were pretty Shanahan,

1826
01:54:04,040 --> 01:54:07,479
Speaker 2: special teams or offensive line. I want to get your

1827
01:54:07,520 --> 01:54:09,640
Speaker 2: answer coming up next, and I want to share with

1828
01:54:09,720 --> 01:54:14,360
Speaker 2: you what the listeners have have basically said on that front.

1829
01:54:14,400 --> 01:54:17,519
Speaker 2: Will do that coming up next on Fox Sports Radio

1830
01:54:19,600 --> 01:54:25,080
Speaker 2: Tie right dot Com Studios with Erom Salama.

1831
01:54:24,720 --> 01:54:27,519
Speaker 4: Mark microphone first, so I can bust like a buffer.

1832
01:54:27,600 --> 01:54:29,639
Speaker 4: I knew you were going to do this together. Now

1833
01:54:29,640 --> 01:54:31,760
Speaker 4: you know we in trouble. Ain't nothing but a g

1834
01:54:32,040 --> 01:54:35,880
Speaker 4: th babe bab lokeed down going crazy.

1835
01:54:36,120 --> 01:54:36,240
Speaker 2: Bro?

1836
01:54:36,520 --> 01:54:39,680
Speaker 3: Is it labeled that pace man unfatable? So please don't

1837
01:54:39,720 --> 01:54:40,680
Speaker 3: try to fade man.

1838
01:54:41,360 --> 01:54:43,400
Speaker 2: Harry. We should set it up one time. He just

1839
01:54:43,440 --> 01:54:43,720
Speaker 2: do this.

1840
01:54:43,840 --> 01:54:47,400
Speaker 3: The whole hour I was like, know what I mean?

1841
01:54:49,200 --> 01:54:49,840
Speaker 3: I could make.

1842
01:54:49,760 --> 01:54:54,320
Speaker 2: Nachos and just watch football. And you know next time,

1843
01:54:55,200 --> 01:54:58,160
Speaker 2: in fact, well right in fact, that Buffalo forty nine

1844
01:54:58,200 --> 01:55:01,560
Speaker 2: Ers game that we're talking about, that's Sunday night football.

1845
01:55:03,440 --> 01:55:04,960
Speaker 3: Okay, I'd like to watch that.

1846
01:55:05,600 --> 01:55:07,480
Speaker 2: So if you want to drop.

1847
01:55:07,240 --> 01:55:09,480
Speaker 3: Rhymes, okay, I'll perform.

1848
01:55:09,680 --> 01:55:14,960
Speaker 2: Okay, if you want to give playlist right like rock

1849
01:55:15,000 --> 01:55:18,840
Speaker 2: a playlist, and I will put an autumn in front

1850
01:55:18,880 --> 01:55:21,880
Speaker 2: of my legs and chill.

1851
01:55:22,760 --> 01:55:26,520
Speaker 3: And I'm creep it.

1852
01:55:27,040 --> 01:55:30,120
Speaker 2: Come on, doc, all right, let me throw this at you.

1853
01:55:30,720 --> 01:55:34,600
Speaker 2: We know that you are a backer of Kyle Shanahan.

1854
01:55:34,680 --> 01:55:37,400
Speaker 2: So am I. We know that you are a backer

1855
01:55:37,440 --> 01:55:42,480
Speaker 2: of Rock Party. So am I my radio station here

1856
01:55:42,480 --> 01:55:44,200
Speaker 2: in the Bay. And for those of you listening our

1857
01:55:44,280 --> 01:55:48,240
Speaker 2: ninety five to seven in the game tonight, hello, our

1858
01:55:48,280 --> 01:55:50,480
Speaker 2: station put out a tweet. There are several issues with

1859
01:55:50,520 --> 01:55:52,320
Speaker 2: the forty nine ers right now. Who is most to

1860
01:55:52,400 --> 01:55:57,680
Speaker 2: blame Party, Shanahan, special teams or offensive line? We're only

1861
01:55:57,680 --> 01:56:01,440
Speaker 2: about seven hundred votes in, But how would you answer that?

1862
01:56:01,480 --> 01:56:05,160
Speaker 4: It's Shanahan? And the reason I say Shanahan because it

1863
01:56:05,200 --> 01:56:09,120
Speaker 4: starts with the head coach. The special team start with

1864
01:56:09,240 --> 01:56:13,440
Speaker 4: the head coach. The lack of offensive line cohesion starts

1865
01:56:13,480 --> 01:56:17,400
Speaker 4: with the head coach. The undisciplined nature that we talked

1866
01:56:17,440 --> 01:56:21,680
Speaker 4: about earlier in the show about the penalties, the presnat penalties,

1867
01:56:21,760 --> 01:56:26,280
Speaker 4: the defensive penalties, allowing teams to extend drives, It starts

1868
01:56:26,320 --> 01:56:29,640
Speaker 4: with the head coach. Just because I know Kyle. He's

1869
01:56:29,680 --> 01:56:33,760
Speaker 4: a friend of mine, he was once a coach of mine.

1870
01:56:34,200 --> 01:56:38,120
Speaker 4: He's not if you're not doing what you're supposed to

1871
01:56:38,160 --> 01:56:43,840
Speaker 4: do right, the standard he's set since he's been a

1872
01:56:43,880 --> 01:56:49,360
Speaker 4: coach as not being accomplished. And so it starts there,

1873
01:56:49,400 --> 01:56:51,360
Speaker 4: and he'll tell you that. He'll tell you it starts

1874
01:56:51,360 --> 01:56:55,480
Speaker 4: with me. And so whatever they need to do, Number

1875
01:56:55,560 --> 01:56:58,200
Speaker 4: one to share up though that the special teams you

1876
01:56:58,240 --> 01:57:04,000
Speaker 4: can't have a whole aspect of the game just be abysmal.

1877
01:57:04,880 --> 01:57:07,960
Speaker 4: They got to figure it out. And then you got

1878
01:57:08,000 --> 01:57:12,080
Speaker 4: to instill the level of discipline that you've had in

1879
01:57:12,120 --> 01:57:16,840
Speaker 4: the past in your team with these with these penalties,

1880
01:57:16,880 --> 01:57:20,000
Speaker 4: it's just you know, two steps forward you get the sack.

1881
01:57:20,120 --> 01:57:24,320
Speaker 4: Oh roughing the passer, uh, you know, you get with

1882
01:57:24,480 --> 01:57:26,360
Speaker 4: you know, third and long, you get them off the field.

1883
01:57:26,400 --> 01:57:30,560
Speaker 4: Old past interference, right, It's it's it's third and two

1884
01:57:30,960 --> 01:57:35,800
Speaker 4: a fall start or a holding you got to clean

1885
01:57:35,800 --> 01:57:39,080
Speaker 4: it up, and it starts with the coach. That's that's

1886
01:57:39,120 --> 01:57:39,800
Speaker 4: the bottom line.

1887
01:57:40,280 --> 01:57:42,400
Speaker 2: I think that's fair. And he is running away with

1888
01:57:42,440 --> 01:57:45,120
Speaker 2: the vote. By the way, almost sixty two of the

1889
01:57:45,200 --> 01:57:49,400
Speaker 2: vote is on him. And it's interesting to hear you

1890
01:57:49,440 --> 01:57:53,800
Speaker 2: say that because, like I said, I've been using the

1891
01:57:53,800 --> 01:57:58,920
Speaker 2: word all year undisciplined, and I would I would lean

1892
01:57:59,000 --> 01:58:01,200
Speaker 2: more toward putting that on the players if it was

1893
01:58:01,280 --> 01:58:03,240
Speaker 2: one player, if it was two players, or if it

1894
01:58:03,280 --> 01:58:04,960
Speaker 2: was one game, or if it was two games. But

1895
01:58:05,000 --> 01:58:08,760
Speaker 2: it's all the games. It's every time I've walked out,

1896
01:58:08,800 --> 01:58:11,240
Speaker 2: I've felt that way. I'm just like, God, they're just

1897
01:58:11,480 --> 01:58:16,200
Speaker 2: not buttoned up. And if buttoned up is what you're

1898
01:58:16,200 --> 01:58:19,280
Speaker 2: looking for, then yeah, you have to go. You have

1899
01:58:19,360 --> 01:58:21,880
Speaker 2: to go to leadership. But I also just say that

1900
01:58:21,920 --> 01:58:24,600
Speaker 2: I'm surprised because I'll give you a third thing. You know,

1901
01:58:24,640 --> 01:58:28,680
Speaker 2: you talked about special teams, you talked about discipline. I'm

1902
01:58:28,720 --> 01:58:32,960
Speaker 2: also watching the play calls that have always worked suddenly don't,

1903
01:58:34,280 --> 01:58:36,920
Speaker 2: and it feels to me like the league after getting

1904
01:58:37,200 --> 01:58:41,480
Speaker 2: run by this team last year, the league's defensive coordinator

1905
01:58:41,560 --> 01:58:44,160
Speaker 2: spent the offseason trying to figure some things out, and

1906
01:58:44,240 --> 01:58:48,720
Speaker 2: they did, Yeah, and it's on Kyle Shanahan to adjust,

1907
01:58:48,800 --> 01:58:52,400
Speaker 2: and so far he has not those jet sweeps for

1908
01:58:52,480 --> 01:58:54,560
Speaker 2: Deebo Samuel to go nowhere.

1909
01:58:55,200 --> 01:58:55,400
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1910
01:58:55,560 --> 01:58:58,560
Speaker 4: I think it's because there's such a variation of that

1911
01:58:59,360 --> 01:59:02,600
Speaker 4: McVeigh is running there. There's a you know, variation of

1912
01:59:02,640 --> 01:59:07,760
Speaker 4: that out and and in Minnesota, like, there's so many

1913
01:59:07,880 --> 01:59:11,880
Speaker 4: variations of that that now is time to evolve. You

1914
01:59:12,000 --> 01:59:14,800
Speaker 4: have to expand on it because teams are seeing it

1915
01:59:14,880 --> 01:59:17,960
Speaker 4: more and more now uh more frequently. The younger the

1916
01:59:18,000 --> 01:59:22,360
Speaker 4: offensive coordinator or the younger the head coach. They're coming

1917
01:59:22,400 --> 01:59:25,800
Speaker 4: from that tree, that Shanahan tree, and they've it's it.

1918
01:59:26,000 --> 01:59:31,920
Speaker 4: You have to be able to evolve that.

1919
01:59:32,280 --> 01:59:36,720
Speaker 2: It surprised. It surprises me that they're that he hasn't. Yeah,

1920
01:59:37,080 --> 01:59:39,320
Speaker 2: I mean, I mean, that's all I'm saying because a

1921
01:59:39,320 --> 01:59:42,320
Speaker 2: lot of the names you name, they're all they're doing great.

1922
01:59:43,760 --> 01:59:46,600
Speaker 2: I think Kevin O'Connell's Ayton too.

1923
01:59:46,800 --> 01:59:48,320
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1924
01:59:48,440 --> 01:59:53,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, but nobody has the hangover that the Niners have had.

1925
01:59:54,280 --> 01:59:54,760
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1926
01:59:55,480 --> 01:59:58,360
Speaker 4: They've played a lot of football all the way high

1927
01:59:58,480 --> 02:00:04,640
Speaker 4: level last five years, and so it's like I'm telling you,

1928
02:00:04,680 --> 02:00:08,680
Speaker 4: it becomes like pulling teeth. Wow, fumble, whoa it's a

1929
02:00:08,760 --> 02:00:09,400
Speaker 4: big play.

1930
02:00:10,240 --> 02:00:11,960
Speaker 2: That's a big play. So we got a ball We

1931
02:00:12,040 --> 02:00:15,680
Speaker 2: got a ball game game. I'll tell you what. Whether

1932
02:00:15,680 --> 02:00:18,120
Speaker 2: there's one thing an AFC North team can do, and

1933
02:00:18,160 --> 02:00:21,760
Speaker 2: that is play in the fourth quarter. Oh yeah, good lord.

1934
02:00:21,960 --> 02:00:24,320
Speaker 2: I don't know what it is about these qbs. They

1935
02:00:24,360 --> 02:00:27,040
Speaker 2: start flying up and down the field in the fourth quarter.

1936
02:00:29,360 --> 02:00:33,400
Speaker 2: Lamar is a crazy person. Burrow looks like a crazy person.

1937
02:00:33,800 --> 02:00:37,960
Speaker 2: Whatever the hell's going on in Pittsburgh seems to work out. Hey,

1938
02:00:38,000 --> 02:00:39,040
Speaker 2: good stuff, tonight show.

1939
02:00:39,080 --> 02:00:39,280
Speaker 3: Brother.

1940
02:00:39,720 --> 02:00:42,600
Speaker 2: All Right, we're gonna do it again next week for Thanksgiving. Okay,

1941
02:00:42,720 --> 02:00:43,600
Speaker 2: we'll talk to you then.