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Speaker 1: They around the NFL podcast, It's ready to serve you

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Speaker 1: a Championship Sunday Chasty from the Chris Westling podcast studio.

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Speaker 1: It's around the NFL, the flagship program, the Championship Sunday.

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Speaker 1: That's a little play on words cestog Sunday in the.

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Speaker 2: Day of the week and the little ice cream treat.

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Speaker 3: My imagination only immediately goes to Jason Zumwalt out in

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Speaker 3: the Connecticut wilderness eating a massive banana split nude Sunday.

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Speaker 2: Oh that's just me.

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Speaker 4: Well nude, I just assume we assume nude.

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Speaker 2: Jason. I miss you, buddy. Come back.

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Speaker 1: Dan Hans is here with Greg Rosenthal and Mark Sessler,

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Speaker 1: and yes, the Super Bowl is set. It's gonna sound familiar,

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Speaker 1: but it's gonna be a good game. The San Francisco

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Speaker 1: forty nine Ers against the Kansas City Chiefs from Allegiant Stadium.

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Speaker 1: M HM in Lost Vegas and Greggy, you're addicted. What

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Speaker 1: do you think the opening spread is.

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Speaker 5: I'm not addicted to anything because the NFL prevents me

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Speaker 5: from being so.

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Speaker 1: I'm not addicted. Pigskin, Oh, no idea, I met his gambling.

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Speaker 1: Go ahead, we'll do the DraftKings since we're connected to them.

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Speaker 6: Tententially forty nine ers minus one and a half.

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Speaker 1: Niners mark two and a half, bing bang boom, sess

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Speaker 1: Dog's on fire with a spread two weeks in a row,

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Speaker 1: two and a half.

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Speaker 2: It is opening at two and a half.

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Speaker 4: A dug in a dug in Addicted Gambler, I.

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Speaker 5: Just Sempler is not coming Vegas. He will be working

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Speaker 5: at Mandalay Sports Book.

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Speaker 6: By Lord, are we worried about sastag in Vegas for

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Speaker 6: the Super Bowl?

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Speaker 2: I am?

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Speaker 1: I mean no more than most any super Bowl. But yes,

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Speaker 1: this one, my behavior will be pristine. This one is

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Speaker 1: just start right there. This one's a little touch and go.

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Speaker 1: Other books have it between two and three, but DraftKings

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Speaker 1: says it right in the middle.

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Speaker 2: That's the one that I we're loyal to them. I

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Speaker 2: don't know, are we? I can't even keep I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I just want Toyota Grand Islander, and you just want

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Speaker 1: damn dejoorno pizza.

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Speaker 4: Three dollar frozen pizza that like you know, a child

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Speaker 4: could be.

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Speaker 1: Is that is that asking too much to get mark

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Speaker 1: a four dollars ninety nine cent pizza?

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Speaker 2: It is?

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Speaker 6: That's what I've been told.

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Speaker 1: So here we are too closely contested games, two games

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Speaker 1: that featured big swings and emotion, two games in which

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Speaker 1: only one team could be victorious, and now the Super

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Speaker 1: Bowl sets. So we're going to go through both of them,

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Speaker 1: and we'll start with the AFC Championship Game, the showdown

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Speaker 1: between the Mighty Kansas City Chiefs. This this proud team,

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Speaker 1: this dynasty. Could you call them a dynasty? Almost had

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Speaker 1: you felt like you got to get back to another one,

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Speaker 1: maybe winning one before. It's like a you know, set

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Speaker 1: in Stone dynasty. But they had to take care business

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Speaker 1: here against the number one seed Ravens at home.

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Speaker 2: With the MVP.

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Speaker 1: If they didn't beat Mahomes this time, they never would.

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Speaker 2: Let's see to the game. Those were the narrative.

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Speaker 7: Forty six Ravens, four man front, playing Cress.

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Speaker 2: On the outside.

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Speaker 4: Mahomes will throw it in the pocket.

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Speaker 2: He's launching one long.

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Speaker 8: Mar Quest Valders Scantley trenches the call at the Raven

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Speaker 8: thirty on his backside, Shades of the catch he had

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Speaker 8: against Cincinnati in the end zone last year in the

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Speaker 8: AFC Championship Game. Mark Kles Valdez Scantley shaving the best

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Speaker 8: or last.

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Speaker 2: Whoa Mitch Holt this with a call mvs.

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Speaker 1: Who couldn't catch the sniffles in April of twenty twenty,

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Speaker 1: now is unstoppable on deep balls. He makes the catch

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Speaker 1: the clincher from thirty two yards from Mahomes on third

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Speaker 1: and nine with about two minutes to play. You know,

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Speaker 1: the incompletion there would have given the Ravens the ball

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Speaker 1: Chiefs and the great Mahomes gore touchdowns on each of

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Speaker 1: their first two possessions, then again turned to that defense,

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Speaker 1: seventeen to ten. And it is the Kansas City Chiefs

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Speaker 1: back to the Super Bowl for the fourth time in

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Speaker 1: five years as they continue to chisel away in stone

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Speaker 1: a dynasty case and Greg, of course, the Chiefs beat

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Speaker 1: the Eagles last year in the Super Bowl, and now

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Speaker 1: they look to be the first team to repeat as

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Speaker 1: Super Bowl champions since your New England Patriots way back

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Speaker 1: in twenty four to twenty years ago. And man, at

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Speaker 1: this point, how could you doubt the Chiefs? I dare

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Speaker 1: you to do it. I did it, and many others did,

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Speaker 1: and once again they made everybody gobble on, Banana splits,

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Speaker 1: Humble Pie, Jason's nude, everybody was all fired.

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Speaker 5: The odds makers are doing it again apparently as well.

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Speaker 5: And what I think that number and all the numbers

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Speaker 5: crazy how this team who's made all these AFC Championship

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Speaker 5: and tight end, just like the Patriots, that they're led

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Speaker 5: by the best game manager I've ever seen. Like he's

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Speaker 5: the best player I've ever seen. And there's a lot

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Speaker 5: of game manager discourse going around, I feel like lately,

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Speaker 5: and to me, this game was a sign of how

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Speaker 5: Patrick Malmes has always been a game manager, but it's

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Speaker 5: even better at it now because you think of those

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Speaker 5: first couple of drives. He hits a beautiful throw to

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Speaker 5: Incredible play where Kelsey's not open and he's the backside

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Speaker 5: not really that open for the touchdown, but just a

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Speaker 5: then nothing happens. Essentially for eighth Street Driving. You can say, oh,

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Speaker 5: he didn't even have a very good game. They scored

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Speaker 5: seventeen points, and that's all true. But he knew what

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Speaker 5: he was doing, he didn't make any mistakes. And then

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Speaker 5: the end, he goes for a big play and he

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Speaker 5: hits it to MVS. Who is our modern day Sammy Watkins.

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Speaker 5: He only shows up in the biggest games ever, and

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Speaker 5: he delivers.

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Speaker 3: Even when MVS was obviously, you know, and overtly struggling,

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Speaker 3: and a couple times like An Island games on like

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Speaker 3: Sunday Night Football, he still was getting behind defense. He

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Speaker 3: and it was just like, can you just convert? Can

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Speaker 3: the questions that we've had about Kansas City's weapons and offense,

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Speaker 3: that story's changed.

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Speaker 4: And it's not that there's suddenly some sort of powerhouse.

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Speaker 6: They're not.

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Speaker 4: They're still struggling there.

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Speaker 3: I mean you know, I watched this game today and

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Speaker 3: the way it ended it was just like a team

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Speaker 3: character and a kind of a definition of who they are.

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Speaker 3: And the Chiefs like can win ugly, they can win

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Speaker 3: in ways that they didn't win in previous years, and

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Speaker 3: they can do it with the same players, And you know,

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Speaker 3: it's like there's this there's this whole other story of.

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Speaker 4: This, because it's very painful.

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Speaker 2: I think to lose the Super Bowl is.

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Speaker 3: Stark, but to lose these AFC and NFC championship games,

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Speaker 3: like you come this far if you're the Ravens, and

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Speaker 3: the things that got you here did not show up

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Speaker 3: today the way they should have. But I would say this,

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Speaker 3: you cannot blame their defense. They shut down Kansas City

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Speaker 3: for the almost entirety of the second half and gave

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Speaker 6: And that's what I mean.

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Speaker 5: It's sort of isn't it always It's always something And

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Speaker 5: that's why this dis performance in this game offensively, and

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Speaker 5: we'll get to the defense for the Chiefs just remind

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Speaker 5: him so much of Brady because like you look at

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Speaker 5: they averaged four point four yards per play and they

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Speaker 5: then but like he knows how to make the plays

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Speaker 5: that you need to.

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Speaker 6: He knows what that game require.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it does.

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Speaker 3: But I also just think that this Chiefs defense, which

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Speaker 3: is overshadowed because of Mahomes always, is like the stamp

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Speaker 3: of this team is what their defense was able to

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Speaker 3: do today. You took the MVP and a Ravens offense

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Speaker 3: thatd it dominated teams and dominated the forty nine ers

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Speaker 3: were non existent when it mattered the most.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and I listen, they the Chiefs did not score

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Speaker 1: in the second half. And there are echoes of the

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Speaker 1: Patriots dynasty now that are just rippling and bouncing off this,

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Speaker 1: this chief Chiefs team and this this era of Chiefs football,

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Speaker 1: and it is it is the fact that it isn't

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Speaker 1: just Mahomes, you know, just like it wasn't just Brady

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Speaker 1: and the fact that they and I went into them

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Speaker 1: a little bit, went into this game a little bit dubious.

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Speaker 1: I've seen multiple like quote unquote big time defenses not

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Speaker 1: step up down the stretch of the season, and the

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Speaker 1: Chiefs once again showed and Steve Spagnola, who you haven't

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Speaker 1: heard anything about, getting another chance at a head coaching job.

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Speaker 2: I mean, this guy is the secret weapon.

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Speaker 1: He is the Belichick to what Bill Parcells had during

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Speaker 1: his era in time in the late eighties and early nineties.

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Speaker 1: What the game plan he cooked up to confuse and

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Speaker 1: befuddle Lamar Jackson, who looked like he didn't know what

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Speaker 1: he was seeing in this game. And there were so

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Speaker 1: many moments when the Ravens pass protection is holding up

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Speaker 1: and I know they got to him a couple times

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Speaker 2: Line, he was seeing ghosts.

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Speaker 1: And there are multiple times that I'm thinking, Lamar, you

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Speaker 1: are the most fantastic athlete to play the quarterback position,

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Speaker 1: perhaps ever, and you're just sitting in this pocket waiting

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Speaker 1: for something to happen, waiting to see something that's not there.

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Speaker 1: So you have to give it to the Chiefs that

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Speaker 1: every level of their defense played a big time game.

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Speaker 1: But it is a team effort, Greg and it's Mahomes

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Speaker 1: and Kelsey and that offensive line stepping up. Even on

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Speaker 1: a day where they're running game, they couldn't do anything.

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Speaker 1: But the fact that they were able to make enough

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Speaker 1: just a total team effort and a reminder and a

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Speaker 1: lesson to me, and I think it should be to

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Speaker 1: a lot of people. Is these teams that don't come

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Speaker 1: around too often. When the playoffs come, you see them

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Speaker 1: make the plays and stay under control and close out games.

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Speaker 1: And teams like the Ravens, no matter how great they

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Speaker 1: start short circuiting. And you saw that a lot with

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Speaker 1: Baltimore in this game, they did not play a good game.

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Speaker 1: Greg they didn't play a discipline game, and they're going home.

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Speaker 5: I think their defense played well overall, the offense didn't.

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Speaker 6: We'll get to that.

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Speaker 5: I want to just give the credit to the Chiefs first,

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Speaker 5: Like you mentioned, Pacheco couldn't get anything done, and yet

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Speaker 5: They were just so active defensively. Amena who had that

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Speaker 5: The intercepted Lamar in the end zone, so like it's

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Speaker 5: It was great that I see them to happen the

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Speaker 6: Every defensive player was wearing.

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Speaker 5: Spag said he was almost embarrassed and he was saying,

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Speaker 3: It's I think Spagnola one of the things that he's

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Speaker 3: Jackson needs to go as the so called MVP, go

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Speaker 3: who've they've been all year. I thought they went away

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Speaker 1: I thought, and this is not meant to like I'm

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Speaker 1: I didn't expect. That's why I picked up Ravens. That's

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Speaker 1: say it's a disappointing performance obviously by Lamar, but I

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Speaker 1: don't want to take away from what Kansas City's defense

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Speaker 2: It's a combination of both.

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Speaker 5: Well, it's also like everything went against them too, Like

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Speaker 1: You're right, and you have a you have a terrible

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Speaker 1: Was, I think we were getting that throw this January, right,

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Speaker 3: So it's not it's like it's not just a target

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Speaker 3: and it gets called for what it is. And Zay

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Speaker 1: An insane It was about a five place sequence where

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Speaker 1: like five minutes of a human's life that was documented

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Speaker 1: let's let's hear from the and he will be a

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Speaker 2: No hay in the barn, I.

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Speaker 9: Mean no turnovers, you know, they they played the game

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Speaker 1: And let's hear from the other quarterback, Patrick Mahomes, who

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Speaker 2: All of a sudden, you're walking away. It's like, did

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Speaker 1: You always seem to get beat by that team that

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Speaker 10: You don't take it for granted. Either. You never know

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Speaker 5: I think it will remember that. You know, you'll see

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Speaker 5: Those were magical plays by Mahomes on those.

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Speaker 6: First couple of times. They were perfect.

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Speaker 5: He started eleven for eleven in this game, and those

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Speaker 6: Yeah, you needed your defense to be great, but they

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Speaker 2: For the game. I'm gonna give you a center fielder

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Speaker 6: Everybody, you know how he throws went to Kelsey and

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Speaker 1: Bills did zero the Bills. The Bills got rope adoped.

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Speaker 1: The Ravens got rope adope, Ropodope America got rope adoped.

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Speaker 1: Nobody saw this, this Chiefs rise coming, except for the Chiefs.

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Speaker 2: I think they always believed they did do this.

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Speaker 3: I know this maybe is arcane or stupid or means nothing,

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Speaker 3: We were in Baltimore, and it's like something about the Chiefs,

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Speaker 3: that's who they are.

439
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Speaker 2: It's like it was an out ones.

440
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Speaker 4: Get it was it was.

441
00:21:14,600 --> 00:21:16,400
Speaker 6: It was and Justin Tuck, like.

442
00:21:16,400 --> 00:21:19,520
Speaker 3: To his credit, didn't explode or throw a hissy fit

443
00:21:19,640 --> 00:21:21,520
Speaker 3: or anything, but it was like he was left as

444
00:21:21,600 --> 00:21:23,680
Speaker 3: the lesser individual in that kind.

445
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Speaker 1: It was your home stadium. It was I know this

446
00:21:26,080 --> 00:21:28,919
Speaker 1: is your stadium. I know you're the number one seed. Uh,

447
00:21:29,040 --> 00:21:31,159
Speaker 1: but this is Championship Sunday, and this is this is

448
00:21:31,160 --> 00:21:31,880
Speaker 1: our time, this is the.

449
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Speaker 2: Chiefs, this is what we do.

450
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Speaker 1: Yeah, you're just a guest and you'll find out in

451
00:21:35,920 --> 00:21:39,840
Speaker 1: about four hours how this goes. And they absolutely, uh,

452
00:21:40,760 --> 00:21:43,800
Speaker 1: they a absolutely followed up with a great performance. Let's

453
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Speaker 1: listen to Kelsey on the riser after the game.

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Speaker 11: Shout out to Jerry rise baby the Chiefs to steal

455
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Speaker 11: the Chiefs and believe it.

456
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Speaker 2: You gotta fight for your ride.

457
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Speaker 1: Believe it, baby, we're going to La Vegas that to

458
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Speaker 1: get us another one. I love that the white boy

459
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Speaker 1: flow from Kelsey, especially when he's excited.

460
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's.

461
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Speaker 6: You know that doesn't happen often to.

462
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Speaker 2: Compete on that.

463
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Speaker 1: And and let's just I want to mention this so

464
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Speaker 1: before we get sidetracked again, the fact that Taylor Swift

465
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Speaker 1: is at the game again.

466
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Speaker 2: She comes down on the field after the game.

467
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Speaker 1: There's all sorts of shots of them together and point

468
00:22:27,240 --> 00:22:32,920
Speaker 1: at each other and kissing. It's you can't make it up,

469
00:22:33,000 --> 00:22:35,680
Speaker 1: like you can't make up the fact that and maybe

470
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Speaker 1: and there's been a lot of talk. I don't know,

471
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Speaker 1: we haven't really addressed it on the show, not because

472
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Speaker 1: we're avoiding it, but just you know, you know, it's stupid,

473
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Speaker 1: But a lot of talk about the fixes in and

474
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Speaker 1: all this was planned, and the colors of the super

475
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Speaker 1: Bowl logo we're supposed to be telling us that the

476
00:22:49,280 --> 00:22:53,200
Speaker 1: NFL had already decided who was the US.

477
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Speaker 6: You know, late at night about that.

478
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Speaker 1: But so the Travis Kelcey thing that he ends up

479
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Speaker 1: dating the most famous woman in the world, and now

480
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Speaker 1: she's been continually in the news and on the cameras,

481
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Speaker 1: and now she's on the field at the ABC Championship game,

482
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Speaker 1: and now she's going to be at the super Bowl.

483
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Speaker 1: This is the the biggest Taylor Swift is on the biggest.

484
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Speaker 2: Pop culture heater since Michael Jackson.

485
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Speaker 1: You put out thriller in November eighty two, and we're

486
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Speaker 1: going to take it to We Are the World, which

487
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Speaker 1: he co wrote with Lionel Ritchie and performed in eighty five.

488
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Speaker 2: I put Taylor's run.

489
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Speaker 1: The fact that she's in the middle of even this

490
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Speaker 1: pop culture moment, from all her music and all her success,

491
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Speaker 1: it is outrageous. How in the middle of everything this

492
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Speaker 1: woman is.

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Speaker 2: That's my point.

494
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Speaker 5: I mean that well, in like the kiss they had

495
00:23:41,840 --> 00:23:44,720
Speaker 5: was like perfectly framed. They actually ran it as they

496
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Speaker 5: were rolling. The credits reminded me so much of like

497
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Speaker 5: maybe the most famous photograph in like American history there

498
00:23:52,840 --> 00:23:56,159
Speaker 5: in the timescar picture after defeating you know, after you know,

499
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Speaker 5: World War two and everything.

500
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Speaker 6: And that, except now it's trying is Kelcey.

501
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Speaker 5: That's our generation, that's our picture, Travis Kelcey and Taylor Stiff.

502
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Speaker 1: People need to calm down. If that, if they get

503
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Speaker 1: their d day, everybody's gonna oh d And it was

504
00:24:08,440 --> 00:24:09,119
Speaker 1: after victory.

505
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Speaker 3: And yes, I do think Dan, you forgot like when

506
00:24:11,720 --> 00:24:14,320
Speaker 3: Steve Winwoods back in the High Life again came out

507
00:24:14,359 --> 00:24:16,560
Speaker 3: like that was also a heater, that really was.

508
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Speaker 2: I know.

509
00:24:19,280 --> 00:24:22,320
Speaker 4: Those second to that, But I mean, this is tough'

510
00:24:22,480 --> 00:24:23,359
Speaker 4: it's a big take you.

511
00:24:23,640 --> 00:24:26,800
Speaker 5: I always pushed so hard back against the Kelsey might

512
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Speaker 5: be in the conversation of the greatest tight ends of

513
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Speaker 5: all time because I just I think it was ignoring.

514
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Speaker 5: First of all, how we talked about a lot of

515
00:24:34,880 --> 00:24:37,560
Speaker 5: those Titans, not just Gronk at the time, and some

516
00:24:37,640 --> 00:24:39,320
Speaker 5: of their all pros and all that, and when you

517
00:24:39,359 --> 00:24:41,440
Speaker 5: stack them up, actually they were just as dominant in

518
00:24:41,480 --> 00:24:45,120
Speaker 5: their day as as Kelsey was now. Like stuff like this,

519
00:24:45,119 --> 00:24:48,960
Speaker 5: this playoff run, in particular, to put it over the top,

520
00:24:49,040 --> 00:24:52,719
Speaker 5: does remind me of like Gronk, especially in the one

521
00:24:52,760 --> 00:24:54,560
Speaker 5: where they beat the Chiefs and they got their last

522
00:24:54,560 --> 00:24:56,480
Speaker 5: Super Bowl and Gronku and kind of spiking it and

523
00:24:56,520 --> 00:24:59,080
Speaker 5: having that run with the Bucks. This is special because

524
00:24:59,119 --> 00:25:02,320
Speaker 5: you look at the offense, it's not really that much

525
00:25:02,359 --> 00:25:05,439
Speaker 5: different Dan than the offense we were complaining about. I

526
00:25:05,480 --> 00:25:07,679
Speaker 5: know we're saying it's so much different. It's not that

527
00:25:07,760 --> 00:25:11,440
Speaker 5: much different. It's just Kelsey and Rice. And now they're

528
00:25:11,440 --> 00:25:13,800
Speaker 5: getting a little sprinklet of sc scantling, which does make

529
00:25:13,800 --> 00:25:16,359
Speaker 5: a big difference, a little sprinklet of scalaling. And it

530
00:25:16,400 --> 00:25:20,920
Speaker 5: took away the terrible players that were ruining them, sky

531
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Speaker 5: Moore and Tony who's never going to play for the

532
00:25:23,680 --> 00:25:27,480
Speaker 5: Chiefs again, and and it eliminated and they eliminated the

533
00:25:27,560 --> 00:25:30,000
Speaker 5: mistakes like that's all like the offense actually isn't doing

534
00:25:30,080 --> 00:25:30,520
Speaker 5: much more.

535
00:25:30,680 --> 00:25:32,440
Speaker 2: James Palmer told, right, they got.

536
00:25:32,320 --> 00:25:33,920
Speaker 6: Rid of all the dumb plays.

537
00:25:33,960 --> 00:25:37,880
Speaker 5: But a huge part of that formula is eleven targets

538
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Speaker 5: to Kelsey for eleven catches in one hundred and sixty.

539
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Speaker 6: That's it and what he did, that's just it is.

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Speaker 1: We weren't this is what they're from last year when

541
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Speaker 1: they were still an unstoppable offense more or less and

542
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Speaker 1: won the Super Bowl. What made that work despite losing

543
00:25:53,240 --> 00:25:56,359
Speaker 1: Tyreek Hill was that they had some They didn't have

544
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Speaker 1: a lot of big playability that that wasn't part of

545
00:25:58,320 --> 00:26:00,600
Speaker 1: their offense last year either. They got you know, stuff

546
00:26:00,920 --> 00:26:05,840
Speaker 1: in moments, but mvs adding that to their their the

547
00:26:05,880 --> 00:26:07,320
Speaker 1: recipe down the stretch here.

548
00:26:07,680 --> 00:26:10,600
Speaker 2: But Kelsey was the key to everything.

549
00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:13,360
Speaker 1: Shows up every week. I know, right, he's consistent. He's

550
00:26:13,400 --> 00:26:16,560
Speaker 1: the only guy that was consistent all year. But that's

551
00:26:16,560 --> 00:26:19,160
Speaker 1: what we kept on saying, like, what's wrong with this offense?

552
00:26:20,040 --> 00:26:22,360
Speaker 1: Travis Kelson having a kind of like one of those

553
00:26:22,359 --> 00:26:25,959
Speaker 1: all time tight end seasons last year lifted all the boats.

554
00:26:26,359 --> 00:26:28,879
Speaker 1: And now that he's back doing that again all of

555
00:26:28,920 --> 00:26:30,600
Speaker 1: a sudden, and I know they didn't have a huge

556
00:26:30,640 --> 00:26:34,240
Speaker 1: offensive game, but it just you can't understate how incredibly

557
00:26:34,280 --> 00:26:35,560
Speaker 1: important he is to what they do.

558
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Speaker 3: I mean, Mahomes opened eleven for eleven. Kelsey's targeted eleven

559
00:26:39,119 --> 00:26:41,520
Speaker 3: times has eleven catches, and I thought this was the

560
00:26:41,560 --> 00:26:47,160
Speaker 3: defense that could find a way to nullify someone like Travis.

561
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Speaker 5: And to be fair, once they got out of their

562
00:26:48,680 --> 00:26:50,960
Speaker 5: fifteen place script they did. I actually think this was

563
00:26:51,040 --> 00:26:54,119
Speaker 5: a good performance by Mike McDonald and we end up

564
00:26:54,160 --> 00:26:57,760
Speaker 5: talking about the winners only, but like Kyle Hamilton played

565
00:26:57,840 --> 00:26:58,560
Speaker 5: incredible too.

566
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Speaker 6: It was awesome.

567
00:26:59,359 --> 00:27:03,919
Speaker 5: Rokwan Smith was incredible today. I thought Patrick Queen was

568
00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:08,120
Speaker 5: really good today. They got beat and I just think

569
00:27:08,280 --> 00:27:11,320
Speaker 5: great offense beats great defense. And when you go when

570
00:27:11,359 --> 00:27:14,040
Speaker 5: they look at those plays that beat them on those

571
00:27:14,080 --> 00:27:16,440
Speaker 5: first two drives, most of them are just like great

572
00:27:16,480 --> 00:27:19,320
Speaker 5: plays that beat guys in good position, including that Kelsey touchdown,

573
00:27:19,359 --> 00:27:22,240
Speaker 5: Like what could have Kyle Hamilton done anymore on that play?

574
00:27:22,280 --> 00:27:24,919
Speaker 5: He was all over him. Mahomes fits it into a

575
00:27:24,960 --> 00:27:28,680
Speaker 5: tiny window, he had good coverage like that. It happens

576
00:27:28,720 --> 00:27:32,040
Speaker 5: better and they were just better and they adjusted. I

577
00:27:32,040 --> 00:27:35,360
Speaker 5: do think on the other side, though, when you look

578
00:27:35,359 --> 00:27:38,280
Speaker 5: at that box score and it's Flowers for five, for one, fifteen,

579
00:27:38,320 --> 00:27:40,560
Speaker 5: and then after that it's it's nothing. Algallar had a

580
00:27:40,640 --> 00:27:43,320
Speaker 5: nice big play on a nice throw from Lamar, and

581
00:27:43,840 --> 00:27:46,960
Speaker 5: Beckham is kind of playing their fourth receiver role Bateman

582
00:27:47,080 --> 00:27:50,159
Speaker 5: who they trusted to play more like he doesn't do anything,

583
00:27:50,160 --> 00:27:53,000
Speaker 5: and the drop off that there was no one other

584
00:27:53,080 --> 00:27:55,879
Speaker 5: than Lamar and Zay who had his own issues, that

585
00:27:56,040 --> 00:27:59,720
Speaker 5: really did anything. So it was I think they're gonna

586
00:27:59,720 --> 00:28:02,080
Speaker 5: want to fill out this roster. As good as this

587
00:28:02,160 --> 00:28:04,240
Speaker 5: team was, Beckham's not going to be back with this team,

588
00:28:04,280 --> 00:28:06,160
Speaker 5: I don't think unless he just can't get a contract

589
00:28:06,160 --> 00:28:08,720
Speaker 5: elsewhere and he's willing to take like a lot less

590
00:28:08,760 --> 00:28:10,879
Speaker 5: money and they actually do need more weapons.

591
00:28:10,920 --> 00:28:11,760
Speaker 6: Still, they were.

592
00:28:13,200 --> 00:28:16,280
Speaker 1: Again right, I was exactly right, Like you're you're about

593
00:28:16,359 --> 00:28:18,760
Speaker 1: and you're not wrong. You're about to lose Mike McDonald's

594
00:28:18,800 --> 00:28:23,160
Speaker 1: as likely like to you know, head coaching duties, and

595
00:28:23,680 --> 00:28:26,000
Speaker 1: you have to remove some of these weapons, and all

596
00:28:26,040 --> 00:28:28,800
Speaker 1: the same questions crop up, like this is the team

597
00:28:28,840 --> 00:28:31,720
Speaker 1: that should be pounding people in Baltimore in their home

598
00:28:31,760 --> 00:28:34,280
Speaker 1: stadium in late January. Take away Lamar on the ground,

599
00:28:34,280 --> 00:28:36,120
Speaker 1: they ran for twenty seven yards. I guess to kill

600
00:28:36,200 --> 00:28:38,760
Speaker 1: Monkin because the lack of carries in this game, and

601
00:28:38,760 --> 00:28:40,720
Speaker 1: I know the game script and the time of possession

602
00:28:40,800 --> 00:28:42,560
Speaker 1: was a big deal, but I mean that's.

603
00:28:42,360 --> 00:28:42,960
Speaker 6: How they were.

604
00:28:43,600 --> 00:28:46,760
Speaker 5: They're never far off, so I I yea. They were

605
00:28:46,760 --> 00:28:49,480
Speaker 5: the team with critical mistakes right. Exactly what I mean

606
00:28:49,560 --> 00:28:51,240
Speaker 5: is they never ran the ball. Part of it was

607
00:28:51,280 --> 00:28:54,040
Speaker 5: they could never get any drives going after that touchdown drive.

608
00:28:54,640 --> 00:28:57,360
Speaker 5: They have the Lamar fumble drive that last five plays,

609
00:28:57,600 --> 00:29:00,320
Speaker 5: they have a one first down, five play drive, a

610
00:29:00,400 --> 00:29:02,880
Speaker 5: three and out, a three and out to start the

611
00:29:02,920 --> 00:29:05,400
Speaker 5: second half. They had a little something going and then

612
00:29:05,440 --> 00:29:07,400
Speaker 5: they have take negative plays a punt before that, so

613
00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:08,800
Speaker 5: it was like these short drives.

614
00:29:08,800 --> 00:29:11,160
Speaker 6: But you're absolutely right. I thought the.

615
00:29:11,160 --> 00:29:14,680
Speaker 5: Chiefs defensive line really stood up. I thought on the

616
00:29:14,720 --> 00:29:16,480
Speaker 5: other side of the ball, it was like a pretty

617
00:29:16,520 --> 00:29:19,280
Speaker 5: even battle and the and the Ravens won their share.

618
00:29:19,560 --> 00:29:23,640
Speaker 5: But for the Chiefs defensive line, Carl Loftis and the

619
00:29:23,680 --> 00:29:27,000
Speaker 5: middle of that line Dana Omena, who certainly Chris Jones

620
00:29:27,080 --> 00:29:29,880
Speaker 5: like they kind of beat. I think the Ravens offensive

621
00:29:29,880 --> 00:29:32,000
Speaker 5: line for the most part, especially against the run.

622
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Speaker 3: I thought decisively, like surprisingly, and like they have a

623
00:29:35,320 --> 00:29:38,640
Speaker 3: drive that ends at the nine fumble interception the one

624
00:29:38,680 --> 00:29:40,680
Speaker 3: in the end zone and then you know.

625
00:29:41,200 --> 00:29:42,440
Speaker 4: A too late field goal.

626
00:29:42,840 --> 00:29:45,840
Speaker 3: It's like they they disappeared, and like you, I felt

627
00:29:45,840 --> 00:29:47,960
Speaker 3: like the Ravens kept having these drives where it's like,

628
00:29:48,040 --> 00:29:49,480
Speaker 3: here's your chance to get back into this, but then

629
00:29:49,480 --> 00:29:52,080
Speaker 3: it would melt in some way and it's like timeless takes.

630
00:29:52,200 --> 00:29:54,880
Speaker 5: They outgained that, they outgained the Chiefs two hundred and

631
00:29:54,880 --> 00:29:57,840
Speaker 5: one to seventy eight until that last second.

632
00:29:58,080 --> 00:30:00,240
Speaker 1: It's balls off on the second half. It did they

633
00:30:00,520 --> 00:30:03,920
Speaker 1: ask and you don't listen. There are very few quarterbacks

634
00:30:03,920 --> 00:30:05,800
Speaker 1: that are as fortunate to say who we're going to

635
00:30:05,840 --> 00:30:08,400
Speaker 1: talk about later Brock party to have all stars or

636
00:30:08,480 --> 00:30:10,880
Speaker 1: Kurt Warner not to sing laud party back in the day,

637
00:30:11,120 --> 00:30:14,280
Speaker 1: to have all stars all around you, like you shouldn't

638
00:30:14,360 --> 00:30:19,920
Speaker 1: if if Lamar is as good as we say he is,

639
00:30:21,120 --> 00:30:24,040
Speaker 1: you shouldn't have to build the perfect supporting cast around

640
00:30:24,120 --> 00:30:26,600
Speaker 1: him for this ultimately to end with a Lombardi Trophy

641
00:30:26,800 --> 00:30:29,680
Speaker 1: being hoisted. Like the true great ones make the most

642
00:30:29,880 --> 00:30:31,360
Speaker 1: of it, and I think they're still less.

643
00:30:31,360 --> 00:30:33,720
Speaker 5: They're and Patrick Mahomes or Tom Brady's conference, then no

644
00:30:33,720 --> 00:30:34,560
Speaker 5: one ever makes it.

645
00:30:34,760 --> 00:30:36,800
Speaker 6: Well, I'm just saying, like no one else is great.

646
00:30:37,040 --> 00:30:39,080
Speaker 1: I know, I don't disagree with what you're saying that

647
00:30:39,120 --> 00:30:41,360
Speaker 1: this is a roster on offense that needs tweaks, and

648
00:30:41,400 --> 00:30:42,840
Speaker 1: it would have maybe been a different game of Mark

649
00:30:42,880 --> 00:30:45,440
Speaker 1: Andrews was one hundred percent in this game, obviously, but

650
00:30:46,160 --> 00:30:48,000
Speaker 1: it just was a bad look all the way around

651
00:30:48,480 --> 00:30:49,040
Speaker 1: for the Ravens.

652
00:30:49,080 --> 00:30:50,280
Speaker 2: Flowers bitterly disappointed.

653
00:30:50,280 --> 00:30:52,080
Speaker 5: A great pick, and he was a little immature and

654
00:30:52,120 --> 00:30:53,920
Speaker 5: made some mistakes in this game. He's also a rookie

655
00:30:53,920 --> 00:30:56,200
Speaker 5: and it was their clear number one receiver, so that

656
00:30:56,360 --> 00:30:57,880
Speaker 5: was a nice fine.

657
00:30:57,880 --> 00:30:59,240
Speaker 6: They're just going to be looking for more is.

658
00:30:59,280 --> 00:31:02,440
Speaker 1: And and one last thing about the kel Gronk comparison,

659
00:31:03,400 --> 00:31:05,360
Speaker 1: and it's impossible not to do that with like two

660
00:31:05,400 --> 00:31:09,719
Speaker 1: greats that basically overlapped and play the same position just

661
00:31:09,760 --> 00:31:12,640
Speaker 1: like Gronk back in the day. So many of the

662
00:31:12,720 --> 00:31:17,920
Speaker 1: Kelsey catchers are absolute daggers, either third down conversions, fourth

663
00:31:17,920 --> 00:31:21,240
Speaker 1: down conversions, red zone scoring plays. So even when he

664
00:31:21,400 --> 00:31:23,000
Speaker 1: like in this game, he had eleven, it felt like

665
00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:25,200
Speaker 1: twenty one, Even when like last week, he only had five,

666
00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:27,600
Speaker 1: but it felt like ten because the plays he makes

667
00:31:27,640 --> 00:31:30,760
Speaker 1: are so consequential because and it makes sense in the

668
00:31:30,840 --> 00:31:36,240
Speaker 1: money moments in the crucible moments. That's where number ten looks,

669
00:31:36,400 --> 00:31:40,000
Speaker 1: and they're going to the Hall of Fame together one day.

670
00:31:41,640 --> 00:31:44,600
Speaker 3: That's why we believe in tight end wins. That's a

671
00:31:44,640 --> 00:31:47,360
Speaker 3: stat I'll tell you this. I don't yeah, I don't

672
00:31:47,400 --> 00:31:48,760
Speaker 3: care who else what anybody picks.

673
00:31:48,880 --> 00:31:49,440
Speaker 2: I'm done.

674
00:31:49,600 --> 00:31:53,120
Speaker 1: I'm out of the picking against Patrick Mahons and Travis

675
00:31:53,160 --> 00:31:56,920
Speaker 1: Kelcey and Spags and Andy Reid in January and February,

676
00:31:56,960 --> 00:32:00,400
Speaker 1: because look, they've been laying waste to the doubters and

677
00:32:00,560 --> 00:32:02,840
Speaker 1: they've loved doing it and they're gonna be and there

678
00:32:02,880 --> 00:32:06,320
Speaker 1: again a dog, Greg. So any thoughts, any other thoughts

679
00:32:06,360 --> 00:32:07,280
Speaker 1: on this game before we move.

680
00:32:07,200 --> 00:32:10,480
Speaker 5: On that that is almost perfect for them because it's

681
00:32:10,480 --> 00:32:12,400
Speaker 5: like it's kind of inconsequential two and a half points,

682
00:32:12,440 --> 00:32:12,960
Speaker 5: whatever it is.

683
00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:13,880
Speaker 2: But they can ride that.

684
00:32:13,960 --> 00:32:14,920
Speaker 6: I think they will.

685
00:32:14,920 --> 00:32:17,440
Speaker 3: That will, that will fuel them. We will hear about

686
00:32:17,480 --> 00:32:18,719
Speaker 3: that two weeks.

687
00:32:18,920 --> 00:32:19,920
Speaker 2: We will, we will.

688
00:32:20,760 --> 00:32:23,160
Speaker 1: All right, we're gonna take a break and then we're

689
00:32:23,160 --> 00:32:25,880
Speaker 1: gonna go to the NFC side of things, which was,

690
00:32:26,680 --> 00:32:29,040
Speaker 1: oh man, what a wild one.

691
00:32:29,040 --> 00:32:37,640
Speaker 2: All right, let's take a break, right, welcome back.

692
00:32:38,800 --> 00:32:42,680
Speaker 1: So the AFC Championship, I want to say it went

693
00:32:42,720 --> 00:32:46,760
Speaker 1: to script because the favorite went down in flames, but

694
00:32:47,000 --> 00:32:50,400
Speaker 1: the game played out in ways that made sense, you know,

695
00:32:51,040 --> 00:32:55,800
Speaker 1: and with the Mighty Mahomes and Company priumphant this NFC

696
00:32:55,840 --> 00:32:57,720
Speaker 1: title game, we're about to get into him. By the way,

697
00:32:57,720 --> 00:33:00,720
Speaker 1: it's time for the Sunday Drive present by the first

698
00:33:00,720 --> 00:33:04,240
Speaker 1: ever Toyota Grand Highlander. And I'm only asking for one islander,

699
00:33:04,280 --> 00:33:07,040
Speaker 1: like Mark. Yeah, I think we're asking for like ease,

700
00:33:07,240 --> 00:33:09,480
Speaker 1: you know, let's give Mark five pizzas.

701
00:33:09,960 --> 00:33:12,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, at least that compared to a like a human

702
00:33:12,480 --> 00:33:14,120
Speaker 3: vehicle that costs thousands of dollars.

703
00:33:14,120 --> 00:33:15,800
Speaker 6: It feels like hell is a human vehicle.

704
00:33:15,880 --> 00:33:17,480
Speaker 3: I mean, just the fact that like they're gonna send

705
00:33:17,480 --> 00:33:19,680
Speaker 3: you like a twenty five thousand dollars truck or something

706
00:33:19,760 --> 00:33:22,400
Speaker 3: or whatever it is, like and I'm getting five frozen pizzas.

707
00:33:22,080 --> 00:33:24,400
Speaker 6: Must fit in with the human amobile.

708
00:33:24,520 --> 00:33:27,120
Speaker 3: Just feels like someone who's getting a better deal potentially there.

709
00:33:27,120 --> 00:33:29,840
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, but like you're right, monetarily, it's not

710
00:33:29,880 --> 00:33:32,160
Speaker 1: going to even out, but right, just like give Mark

711
00:33:32,560 --> 00:33:35,440
Speaker 1: like a French red pizza market, We'll just like know

712
00:33:35,480 --> 00:33:39,280
Speaker 1: the product better to give them the classic pie, you know,

713
00:33:39,520 --> 00:33:40,400
Speaker 1: just mix it up.

714
00:33:41,680 --> 00:33:44,000
Speaker 3: It's a fair request on your part for me, are

715
00:33:44,000 --> 00:33:46,280
Speaker 3: you ready for a big w at your next watch party?

716
00:33:46,480 --> 00:33:46,840
Speaker 2: Anyway?

717
00:33:46,960 --> 00:33:47,440
Speaker 6: We don't know.

718
00:33:47,800 --> 00:33:48,400
Speaker 2: I don't know either.

719
00:33:48,440 --> 00:33:52,280
Speaker 1: Oh what I was saying, was it just this game

720
00:33:52,280 --> 00:33:54,880
Speaker 1: we're about to talk about now had so many It

721
00:33:54,920 --> 00:33:58,440
Speaker 1: was really two games, two different games. But the thing

722
00:33:58,600 --> 00:34:00,840
Speaker 1: is when there's two different games, you want to be

723
00:34:00,960 --> 00:34:05,520
Speaker 1: typically the team that has like their game last ye

724
00:34:06,400 --> 00:34:09,880
Speaker 1: and h for fans of the team from.

725
00:34:09,719 --> 00:34:12,120
Speaker 5: Michion, by being their game, you mean like scoring lots

726
00:34:12,120 --> 00:34:12,480
Speaker 5: of points.

727
00:34:12,600 --> 00:34:15,320
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, and just like you know, because let's be honest,

728
00:34:15,320 --> 00:34:18,600
Speaker 1: GREGI this might be said an all time or the

729
00:34:18,760 --> 00:34:20,319
Speaker 1: all time momentum game.

730
00:34:20,400 --> 00:34:21,760
Speaker 2: This is the momentum Bowl.

731
00:34:22,400 --> 00:34:24,920
Speaker 1: This is the one that causes Claybah and Greg to

732
00:34:25,000 --> 00:34:28,320
Speaker 1: drop to their knees and profusely apologize. I mean, I

733
00:34:28,360 --> 00:34:30,560
Speaker 1: think that sets the table accurately. I don't think you

734
00:34:30,840 --> 00:34:33,839
Speaker 1: at this point, Greg could debate it. This game we're

735
00:34:33,880 --> 00:34:37,440
Speaker 1: about to talk talk about has proven Mark and I

736
00:34:37,520 --> 00:34:42,160
Speaker 1: and millions of others correctly while sending you scrambling for shelter.

737
00:34:42,320 --> 00:34:45,920
Speaker 6: Not true. Never, it is completely true, not true.

738
00:34:46,400 --> 00:34:48,440
Speaker 2: All right to the big bell bottom.

739
00:34:49,160 --> 00:34:54,400
Speaker 12: Three yards away nine feet is required, prety under center

740
00:34:54,560 --> 00:34:55,240
Speaker 12: used check.

741
00:34:55,160 --> 00:34:58,040
Speaker 6: How Elijah Mitchell is in. They give it a Mitchell

742
00:34:58,120 --> 00:35:01,840
Speaker 6: off the right side. Go on listen in.

743
00:35:02,719 --> 00:35:15,800
Speaker 12: Touchdown seven fran Cisco line.

744
00:35:16,280 --> 00:35:18,919
Speaker 1: There it is the call from Greg Papa with Tim

745
00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:25,120
Speaker 1: Ryan k n b R. The San Francisco forty nine ers,

746
00:35:25,200 --> 00:35:31,439
Speaker 1: down twenty four to seven at the break, absolutely barnstorm

747
00:35:31,920 --> 00:35:35,960
Speaker 1: the Lions in the second half, going up thirty four

748
00:35:35,960 --> 00:35:38,200
Speaker 1: to twenty four after that Mitchell touchdown that was set

749
00:35:38,280 --> 00:35:42,120
Speaker 1: up by a big CMC play and then a late

750
00:35:42,160 --> 00:35:45,920
Speaker 1: Lion score made it close and hurt some people involved

751
00:35:45,920 --> 00:35:49,440
Speaker 1: with deserts. However, all that mattered in the end was

752
00:35:49,520 --> 00:35:52,160
Speaker 1: San Francisco with that big run in the second half

753
00:35:52,320 --> 00:35:55,520
Speaker 1: take out the Lions thirty four to thirty one. The

754
00:35:55,600 --> 00:35:58,600
Speaker 1: Niners scored seventeen points in an eight minute span of

755
00:35:58,640 --> 00:36:02,319
Speaker 1: the third quarter to tie this NFC title game, pull

756
00:36:02,360 --> 00:36:04,600
Speaker 1: away in the fourth and they get a rematch with

757
00:36:04,680 --> 00:36:10,560
Speaker 1: the Chiefs who defeated them in crushing fashion four years ago.

758
00:36:11,040 --> 00:36:18,319
Speaker 1: Mark the Lions did everything right, did everything right in

759
00:36:18,360 --> 00:36:23,360
Speaker 1: the first half, but San Francisco's offense has the explosiveness

760
00:36:23,360 --> 00:36:26,319
Speaker 1: that if you open the door for him, they will

761
00:36:26,360 --> 00:36:28,920
Speaker 1: storm right in. And to the credit of Purdy and

762
00:36:29,000 --> 00:36:33,399
Speaker 1: Ayuk and Deebo and CMC and Kittle, they ran right

763
00:36:33,440 --> 00:36:34,880
Speaker 1: in and set the place on fire.

764
00:36:35,000 --> 00:36:37,160
Speaker 3: Well, they remind me, you know, of what we talked

765
00:36:37,160 --> 00:36:39,200
Speaker 3: about with the Chiefs, to the degree that like you're

766
00:36:39,200 --> 00:36:42,480
Speaker 3: talking about a team that's been through these crucible moments

767
00:36:43,040 --> 00:36:46,440
Speaker 3: against a team that is learning what that means to

768
00:36:46,520 --> 00:36:48,640
Speaker 3: even be as an NFL team. And they came out,

769
00:36:48,680 --> 00:36:51,320
Speaker 3: the Lions so hot and so fiery, and it was

770
00:36:51,400 --> 00:36:54,680
Speaker 3: like they seemed inevitable, inevitable to me almost. But then

771
00:36:54,719 --> 00:36:58,320
Speaker 3: there was this like these games happened, how are they unfold?

772
00:36:58,360 --> 00:37:01,719
Speaker 3: Like there was a sequence of items and I'll just

773
00:37:01,719 --> 00:37:03,239
Speaker 3: say quickly when get into it, but it was like

774
00:37:03,280 --> 00:37:06,120
Speaker 3: you have a key moment where it's twenty four to ten,

775
00:37:06,520 --> 00:37:08,799
Speaker 3: it's fourth and two for the Lions, they have a

776
00:37:08,880 --> 00:37:11,840
Speaker 3: chance to really I think, stick a knife into the Niners.

777
00:37:12,200 --> 00:37:14,640
Speaker 3: A fourth and two pass to Josh Reynolds that goes incomplete.

778
00:37:14,640 --> 00:37:16,799
Speaker 3: You could have ran the ball there. On the next

779
00:37:16,800 --> 00:37:20,000
Speaker 3: sequence for the Niners, you have that Brandon Ayuk incredible

780
00:37:20,080 --> 00:37:23,239
Speaker 3: throw downfield, a fifty one yard completion that ricochets off

781
00:37:23,280 --> 00:37:25,480
Speaker 3: the helmet of Kindle Wilders.

782
00:37:25,560 --> 00:37:27,080
Speaker 6: Sounds like a space age.

783
00:37:27,200 --> 00:37:30,440
Speaker 1: Underboss the name that infamine, right right, I mean the

784
00:37:30,560 --> 00:37:32,319
Speaker 1: thing these are like, that's not the lie, Like that

785
00:37:32,400 --> 00:37:34,160
Speaker 1: isn't like something you just blame on the Lions.

786
00:37:34,200 --> 00:37:35,800
Speaker 4: Just this fateful moment that happened.

787
00:37:35,840 --> 00:37:36,280
Speaker 6: Momentum.

788
00:37:36,360 --> 00:37:40,239
Speaker 5: Yeah, the momentum bounced off, the hounds off, depending on

789
00:37:40,360 --> 00:37:42,160
Speaker 5: who caught it, they had the momentum.

790
00:37:42,320 --> 00:37:45,880
Speaker 1: Whatever happened there sound terrible, Greg, You're you're saying that

791
00:37:45,920 --> 00:37:47,680
Speaker 1: doesn't what you're saying makes no sense.

792
00:37:47,760 --> 00:37:49,759
Speaker 6: No, it's not right. Is that what it is? It

793
00:37:49,800 --> 00:37:51,040
Speaker 6: is two very different things.

794
00:37:51,800 --> 00:37:53,799
Speaker 3: It's like, you know, Bill Buckner, it's whatever you say.

795
00:37:53,800 --> 00:37:56,239
Speaker 3: It's like suddenly you know it is.

796
00:37:56,320 --> 00:37:59,320
Speaker 1: It's a failure to execute though build or it doesn't

797
00:37:59,320 --> 00:37:59,959
Speaker 1: make to catch.

798
00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:02,479
Speaker 2: It opens the door for the Niners to make a play.

799
00:38:02,560 --> 00:38:04,520
Speaker 3: It's true, but it also would have been an incredible

800
00:38:04,600 --> 00:38:05,359
Speaker 3: play if he had.

801
00:38:05,360 --> 00:38:06,480
Speaker 4: But then Ayuk scores.

802
00:38:06,600 --> 00:38:08,560
Speaker 3: Plays later, it's twenty four to seventeen, and you can

803
00:38:08,600 --> 00:38:12,160
Speaker 3: start to feel stuff shifting, and then you get Jamier Gibbs,

804
00:38:12,160 --> 00:38:16,600
Speaker 3: who is such a wonderful player for up until this moment,

805
00:38:16,960 --> 00:38:18,680
Speaker 3: the key fumble, and then you have a big un

806
00:38:18,760 --> 00:38:20,400
Speaker 3: by brock Purty.

807
00:38:20,680 --> 00:38:21,240
Speaker 6: They score.

808
00:38:21,320 --> 00:38:23,719
Speaker 4: It's twenty four to twenty four and everything starts to shift.

809
00:38:23,800 --> 00:38:27,240
Speaker 5: A seventeen point lead, a race like that eight minutes,

810
00:38:27,280 --> 00:38:30,000
Speaker 5: it was nothing eight minutes, and we can get to

811
00:38:30,080 --> 00:38:34,319
Speaker 5: all the Campbell decisions and the way I have those

812
00:38:34,320 --> 00:38:38,440
Speaker 5: set up by this thing falls apart. But now that

813
00:38:38,480 --> 00:38:40,880
Speaker 5: we've even had like the game ended probably what an

814
00:38:40,920 --> 00:38:42,640
Speaker 5: hour or something like that, Now that you've even had

815
00:38:42,760 --> 00:38:45,719
Speaker 5: like a little time to think about it, we don't.

816
00:38:46,480 --> 00:38:47,680
Speaker 4: Four days later we do it.

817
00:38:48,040 --> 00:38:50,800
Speaker 5: I don't mean like, so that's that's what you're gonna

818
00:38:50,840 --> 00:38:53,320
Speaker 5: remember from this game, or I'm going to remember first

819
00:38:53,520 --> 00:38:55,759
Speaker 5: is the ball bouncing off the helmet, the fact that

820
00:38:55,760 --> 00:38:57,480
Speaker 5: they had a seventeen point lead, the fact that they

821
00:38:57,480 --> 00:38:59,480
Speaker 5: couldn't execute on the fourth downs, the fact that they

822
00:38:59,520 --> 00:39:00,760
Speaker 5: kept drop being passes.

823
00:39:00,880 --> 00:39:01,839
Speaker 6: They kept dropping the ball.

824
00:39:01,920 --> 00:39:05,360
Speaker 5: Jamir Gibbs Josh Reynolds had two drive killing drops. But

825
00:39:05,880 --> 00:39:07,920
Speaker 5: what is lost a little bit in that is that

826
00:39:07,960 --> 00:39:11,239
Speaker 5: this forty nine Ers offense, which was statistically the best

827
00:39:11,239 --> 00:39:14,120
Speaker 5: offense in the league all season long, they're down seventeen

828
00:39:14,160 --> 00:39:16,440
Speaker 5: points at halftime. They get some good fortunes, certainly in

829
00:39:16,480 --> 00:39:18,600
Speaker 5: the second half, but they got the ball five times

830
00:39:18,600 --> 00:39:22,360
Speaker 5: after halftime. They scored every freaking time they scored three

831
00:39:22,480 --> 00:39:25,319
Speaker 5: touchdowns and had two field goals, and one of those

832
00:39:25,360 --> 00:39:28,239
Speaker 5: field goal drives was the best field goal drive of

833
00:39:28,320 --> 00:39:31,720
Speaker 5: Kyle Shanahan and Brock Perty's life. They squeezed seven minutes

834
00:39:31,760 --> 00:39:34,799
Speaker 5: off the clock to take a lead that completed the

835
00:39:34,800 --> 00:39:37,839
Speaker 5: comeback and gave them their first lead. So there are

836
00:39:38,000 --> 00:39:42,080
Speaker 5: five drives on offense with yes, that won very lucky

837
00:39:42,120 --> 00:39:45,160
Speaker 5: play but offensively and they're an offensive team going up

838
00:39:45,719 --> 00:39:49,839
Speaker 5: a very shaky Lions defense. In general all year they

839
00:39:49,840 --> 00:39:53,480
Speaker 5: were perfect. They had to be perfect after halftime and offensively,

840
00:39:53,600 --> 00:39:55,879
Speaker 5: they ran it when they needed to. They got big

841
00:39:55,880 --> 00:39:57,880
Speaker 5: plays when they needed to. Perty ran it when he

842
00:39:57,920 --> 00:40:00,839
Speaker 5: needed to, and yes, he got very fortunate in this game.

843
00:40:01,600 --> 00:40:05,320
Speaker 5: Threw out at different points, but ultimately when in not

844
00:40:05,520 --> 00:40:07,960
Speaker 5: cutting time, second half, they were the best offense in

845
00:40:08,000 --> 00:40:09,280
Speaker 5: the league. Looked like the best offense.

846
00:40:09,400 --> 00:40:09,600
Speaker 6: Yeah.

847
00:40:09,640 --> 00:40:13,080
Speaker 1: Late, absolutely, and you want to you know, people are

848
00:40:13,120 --> 00:40:15,120
Speaker 1: gonna maybe just dwell on the Niner side of things

849
00:40:15,120 --> 00:40:17,440
Speaker 1: in the collapse, but you have to give it to

850
00:40:17,480 --> 00:40:21,719
Speaker 1: the Niners and Kyle Shanhan, Kyle Shanahan who before last week,

851
00:40:21,800 --> 00:40:24,160
Speaker 1: you know, the whole story is run this guy as

852
00:40:24,200 --> 00:40:26,759
Speaker 1: great as he is. If his team gets down late,

853
00:40:26,800 --> 00:40:30,400
Speaker 1: they're done back to back big comebacks. They survived the

854
00:40:30,440 --> 00:40:33,600
Speaker 1: Packers game, and then they kind of the way. I

855
00:40:33,680 --> 00:40:35,520
Speaker 1: was so impressed by what the Ravens did against the

856
00:40:35,560 --> 00:40:38,400
Speaker 1: Texans in the divisional round, where they took some punches

857
00:40:38,440 --> 00:40:40,080
Speaker 1: in the first half and then just took control of

858
00:40:40,120 --> 00:40:42,880
Speaker 1: the game. The Niners did that, but on a hugely

859
00:40:42,920 --> 00:40:45,719
Speaker 1: bigger stage, So you got to give him credit. Now,

860
00:40:46,520 --> 00:40:48,160
Speaker 1: so much of the talk around the game is going

861
00:40:48,239 --> 00:40:51,799
Speaker 1: to go back to how do the Lions blow a

862
00:40:51,840 --> 00:40:55,520
Speaker 1: twenty four to seven lead? Okay, and the IU catch

863
00:40:55,760 --> 00:40:58,719
Speaker 1: is a huge part of it. I think it's it

864
00:40:58,800 --> 00:41:01,960
Speaker 1: will live in infamy in Detroit because I don't think

865
00:41:02,000 --> 00:41:05,320
Speaker 1: it would have been what your word was, outstanding or whatever.

866
00:41:05,080 --> 00:41:05,759
Speaker 2: It was catch.

867
00:41:05,800 --> 00:41:08,440
Speaker 1: I thought it was a playable ball by dB that

868
00:41:08,680 --> 00:41:10,799
Speaker 1: gets turned not only into and it's not even just

869
00:41:10,800 --> 00:41:13,319
Speaker 1: an incomplete pass, gets turned into a huge game that

870
00:41:13,400 --> 00:41:16,320
Speaker 1: sets up the touchdown that sends that building. And credit

871
00:41:16,360 --> 00:41:18,799
Speaker 1: to Niners fans because that's not typically a stadium where

872
00:41:18,840 --> 00:41:20,919
Speaker 1: you say, oh, that place rocks when it gets loud.

873
00:41:21,200 --> 00:41:24,480
Speaker 1: That place was rocking. So that was a massive play.

874
00:41:24,520 --> 00:41:27,640
Speaker 1: The fumble happening immedia after huge play, and then.

875
00:41:27,600 --> 00:41:28,840
Speaker 6: You think snowball.

876
00:41:28,920 --> 00:41:32,520
Speaker 1: Guess yeah, I thinks snowballed after that. But with Campbell,

877
00:41:32,560 --> 00:41:34,760
Speaker 1: there were four big decisions in this game that people

878
00:41:34,760 --> 00:41:36,520
Speaker 1: are going to talk about. The first one I'm not

879
00:41:36,520 --> 00:41:38,160
Speaker 1: going to go crazy about because I agreed with it.

880
00:41:38,160 --> 00:41:39,960
Speaker 1: First of all, Greg, I don't think you did. But

881
00:41:41,080 --> 00:41:43,440
Speaker 1: seven seconds to go in the second quarter, they're up

882
00:41:43,480 --> 00:41:45,640
Speaker 1: twenty one to seven. It's fourth and goal to San

883
00:41:45,640 --> 00:41:49,279
Speaker 1: Francisco three. Campbell thinks it over, decides it's a little

884
00:41:49,320 --> 00:41:51,560
Speaker 1: too far. He kicks the field goal, and I think

885
00:41:51,600 --> 00:41:54,640
Speaker 1: Greg Olsen was on him a little bit and said, listen,

886
00:41:54,640 --> 00:41:56,280
Speaker 1: this is your chance to give a knockout punch.

887
00:41:56,480 --> 00:41:59,120
Speaker 2: Hindsight twenty twenty, maybe you do take that chance.

888
00:41:59,280 --> 00:42:01,719
Speaker 1: But instead of own for twenty eight to seven, they

889
00:42:01,760 --> 00:42:03,440
Speaker 1: take the field goal, I guess, And I think part

890
00:42:03,480 --> 00:42:06,719
Speaker 1: of that Greg was the Niners or Campbell knowing the

891
00:42:06,840 --> 00:42:08,839
Speaker 1: Niners got the ball to start the third quarter too,

892
00:42:08,880 --> 00:42:10,719
Speaker 1: it being like, let me take these points, get ahead

893
00:42:10,760 --> 00:42:11,760
Speaker 1: three scores.

894
00:42:12,040 --> 00:42:14,400
Speaker 5: And you wanted to go in feeling like it was

895
00:42:14,440 --> 00:42:16,960
Speaker 5: as dominant as possible. It's hard to have it both

896
00:42:17,000 --> 00:42:18,839
Speaker 5: ways and say like, okay, take the field goal here,

897
00:42:18,840 --> 00:42:21,400
Speaker 5: but don't take it there. The numbers, and I think

898
00:42:21,680 --> 00:42:24,480
Speaker 5: Campbell's instincts coming into play here. A lot of it

899
00:42:24,520 --> 00:42:25,880
Speaker 5: has to do with like, a big part of the

900
00:42:25,880 --> 00:42:29,320
Speaker 5: reason you go for the fourth and goals is because

901
00:42:29,320 --> 00:42:31,360
Speaker 5: you're pinning the other team back and you lose that

902
00:42:31,480 --> 00:42:33,520
Speaker 5: advantage at the end of the second quarter. You get

903
00:42:33,560 --> 00:42:36,040
Speaker 5: no advantage from that. So I'm with you, and that's

904
00:42:36,040 --> 00:42:38,480
Speaker 5: what I like about Campbell. He hasn't been a play

905
00:42:38,560 --> 00:42:41,480
Speaker 5: it by the book guy. He has a feel I

906
00:42:41,520 --> 00:42:44,040
Speaker 5: think for the game and he takes the three there,

907
00:42:44,080 --> 00:42:45,920
Speaker 5: and I think part of it he said it they

908
00:42:45,960 --> 00:42:47,799
Speaker 5: wanted to get to thirty. They did in the end,

909
00:42:48,040 --> 00:42:49,920
Speaker 5: but they knew they needed to score a lot.

910
00:42:49,920 --> 00:42:51,600
Speaker 1: All right, Mark, I'll set you up now on the

911
00:42:51,640 --> 00:42:54,440
Speaker 1: next big play with Campbell. It's fourth and two at

912
00:42:54,440 --> 00:42:57,160
Speaker 1: the San Francisco twenty eight yard line. There's seven minutes

913
00:42:57,239 --> 00:42:59,920
Speaker 1: left in the third quarter. It is twenty four to ten.

914
00:43:00,239 --> 00:43:02,480
Speaker 1: Instead of bringing out the kicker, it was not a

915
00:43:02,520 --> 00:43:04,239
Speaker 1: big time kicker, and that you have to keep these

916
00:43:04,239 --> 00:43:05,320
Speaker 1: things in Michael.

917
00:43:04,920 --> 00:43:08,080
Speaker 6: Badgley Michael bad joined the team.

918
00:43:07,440 --> 00:43:09,960
Speaker 1: But instead of a kicking the field goal to try

919
00:43:09,960 --> 00:43:11,520
Speaker 1: to go up twenty seven to ten. This was after

920
00:43:11,560 --> 00:43:13,640
Speaker 1: San Francisco marched down the field to kick the field

921
00:43:13,640 --> 00:43:15,759
Speaker 1: goal to start the second half. He opts to go

922
00:43:15,880 --> 00:43:18,800
Speaker 1: for it, He passes underneath to Josh Reynolds. He drops

923
00:43:18,840 --> 00:43:23,800
Speaker 1: the ball turnover, and you start to hear people getting

924
00:43:23,840 --> 00:43:25,960
Speaker 1: on Campbell a little bit, which I thought was unfair, Mark,

925
00:43:26,000 --> 00:43:27,880
Speaker 1: because this is what Dan Campbell and the lines are

926
00:43:27,880 --> 00:43:28,600
Speaker 1: about all year.

927
00:43:29,160 --> 00:43:30,040
Speaker 6: I'm with you.

928
00:43:30,239 --> 00:43:33,040
Speaker 3: I think that you could say, do you run the

929
00:43:33,080 --> 00:43:35,080
Speaker 3: ball there? Maybe because they you know, earlier in the

930
00:43:35,120 --> 00:43:37,200
Speaker 3: game they were running with a lot of force and power.

931
00:43:37,239 --> 00:43:39,960
Speaker 1: They picked up a third and thirteen running it right,

932
00:43:40,000 --> 00:43:42,160
Speaker 1: and so there would be evidence that that might have

933
00:43:42,200 --> 00:43:44,960
Speaker 1: been another option at that point in the game. Goff

934
00:43:45,080 --> 00:43:48,760
Speaker 1: was also starting to feel pressure from Bosa. Nick Bosa

935
00:43:48,800 --> 00:43:49,160
Speaker 1: was starting.

936
00:43:49,200 --> 00:43:51,759
Speaker 3: He had two sacks in this game, and Golf was

937
00:43:51,840 --> 00:43:54,440
Speaker 3: under a lot of heat on that actual in particular,

938
00:43:54,880 --> 00:43:56,959
Speaker 3: like in completion of Josh Reynolds and then it leads

939
00:43:56,960 --> 00:43:58,759
Speaker 3: to the Ayug play. But I would say this, like

940
00:43:58,760 --> 00:44:01,440
Speaker 3: if we just talked about a that looked different today

941
00:44:01,640 --> 00:44:03,680
Speaker 3: than the way that they were hammering teams in the past,

942
00:44:03,719 --> 00:44:06,080
Speaker 3: Like I had at no point thought that Dan Campbell

943
00:44:06,280 --> 00:44:09,160
Speaker 3: went away from his character who he is, how he

944
00:44:09,239 --> 00:44:11,319
Speaker 3: runs this team, and so this is part of what

945
00:44:11,360 --> 00:44:13,719
Speaker 3: the Lions do was true, Like the.

946
00:44:13,680 --> 00:44:15,160
Speaker 2: Reynolds dropped the ball and they.

947
00:44:15,040 --> 00:44:18,520
Speaker 3: Were connected, it would be they were connecting on a

948
00:44:18,560 --> 00:44:20,480
Speaker 3: lot of stuff tonight. It's like, I think it's just

949
00:44:20,840 --> 00:44:22,640
Speaker 3: you go for it. I have no problem with that

950
00:44:22,719 --> 00:44:24,759
Speaker 3: at all. All right, don't get the whole issue.

951
00:44:24,400 --> 00:44:26,560
Speaker 1: With this one. This one gets a little dicier. Now

952
00:44:26,840 --> 00:44:29,359
Speaker 1: it's fourth and three at the Niners thirty. Now you've

953
00:44:29,400 --> 00:44:31,359
Speaker 1: lost the lead. The Niners just went on that long

954
00:44:31,440 --> 00:44:34,200
Speaker 1: lead drive. To kick the field goal, you have a

955
00:44:34,280 --> 00:44:36,719
Speaker 1: chance to tie the game. He bring out badgely to

956
00:44:36,760 --> 00:44:38,960
Speaker 1: attempt a forty seven yarder, which is a very high

957
00:44:39,000 --> 00:44:41,480
Speaker 1: percentage make in the league. Right now, now in the

958
00:44:41,520 --> 00:44:44,759
Speaker 1: NFC title game in the fourth quarter, midway through. It's

959
00:44:44,800 --> 00:44:47,680
Speaker 1: a little harder kick, but no doubt. He decides to

960
00:44:47,760 --> 00:44:50,279
Speaker 1: again keep the offense on the field, and this time

961
00:44:50,320 --> 00:44:54,680
Speaker 1: Greg Goff does not take care of his own business

962
00:44:54,719 --> 00:44:57,759
Speaker 1: because he misses someone crossing underneath and throws incomplete. So

963
00:44:57,800 --> 00:44:59,680
Speaker 1: a chance to tie the game midway through the fourth

964
00:45:00,080 --> 00:45:02,399
Speaker 1: I had to go for it, and he gets killed.

965
00:45:02,400 --> 00:45:05,560
Speaker 1: He's getting killed on social media for this. My point

966
00:45:05,560 --> 00:45:07,319
Speaker 1: about the previous play still stands. This is what the

967
00:45:07,320 --> 00:45:08,759
Speaker 1: Lions were. You can't change now.

968
00:45:08,880 --> 00:45:10,800
Speaker 5: Yeah, that would have been a forty seven yarder. Again,

969
00:45:11,080 --> 00:45:14,800
Speaker 5: that's hardly locked in for Michael badgely in a big spot.

970
00:45:15,120 --> 00:45:17,960
Speaker 1: But your boy, uh this is it. Yeah, this one

971
00:45:18,840 --> 00:45:20,440
Speaker 1: coin flip. But that's who they were.

972
00:45:20,520 --> 00:45:22,279
Speaker 5: And I wish I could rewatch that play right now

973
00:45:22,320 --> 00:45:25,000
Speaker 5: because if if I'm remembering right, I think Bosa had

974
00:45:25,000 --> 00:45:27,799
Speaker 5: a quick pressure on that play to Bosa really made

975
00:45:27,800 --> 00:45:29,399
Speaker 5: his money in the second half of this game.

976
00:45:29,440 --> 00:45:33,000
Speaker 6: He was really good, and so that impacted the play.

977
00:45:33,280 --> 00:45:35,920
Speaker 5: Goff I think was a little off down the stretch

978
00:45:36,280 --> 00:45:38,400
Speaker 5: going for the field goal there. I just think the

979
00:45:38,440 --> 00:45:42,400
Speaker 5: thing to remember is the Lions defense did not have

980
00:45:42,440 --> 00:45:43,960
Speaker 5: a stop in the second half, and they look at

981
00:45:44,000 --> 00:45:46,000
Speaker 5: it and people kind of use the fact that, hey,

982
00:45:46,040 --> 00:45:48,239
Speaker 5: you'd be within seven if you had just hit that

983
00:45:48,280 --> 00:45:53,120
Speaker 5: field goal. Okay, true, but you just gave up a touchdown.

984
00:45:53,120 --> 00:45:55,880
Speaker 5: The point was they needed to keep scoring to possibly

985
00:45:56,239 --> 00:45:58,359
Speaker 5: keep up. So, yeah, maybe you kick a field goal,

986
00:45:59,160 --> 00:46:00,760
Speaker 5: your defense still need to get stops.

987
00:46:00,800 --> 00:46:02,360
Speaker 6: It wasn't showing that it could do it.

988
00:46:02,400 --> 00:46:03,200
Speaker 2: All right, let's hear it.

989
00:46:03,200 --> 00:46:06,400
Speaker 1: By the way, I'm gonna hear from Campbell on his

990
00:46:06,480 --> 00:46:07,760
Speaker 1: decision to stay aggressive.

991
00:46:08,520 --> 00:46:11,440
Speaker 11: I don't regret those decisions. And that's hard. You know,

992
00:46:11,560 --> 00:46:14,160
Speaker 11: it's hard because you know they didn't we didn't come through.

993
00:46:14,239 --> 00:46:17,040
Speaker 11: It wasn't able to work out. But I just I don't.

994
00:46:17,960 --> 00:46:20,759
Speaker 11: I don't, And I understand the scrutiny. I'll get that's

995
00:46:20,800 --> 00:46:27,600
Speaker 11: part of the gig man, but you know, we just

996
00:46:27,600 --> 00:46:28,399
Speaker 11: just didn't work out.

997
00:46:29,040 --> 00:46:31,120
Speaker 1: And now the final move that he makes, and this

998
00:46:31,200 --> 00:46:33,560
Speaker 1: is the only one I thought was indefensible. They are

999
00:46:34,000 --> 00:46:36,520
Speaker 1: down thirty four twenty four. At this point, it's third

1000
00:46:36,560 --> 00:46:39,440
Speaker 1: and goal the San Francisco one. I understand the odds

1001
00:46:39,440 --> 00:46:42,040
Speaker 1: are stacked against them, but with sixty five seconds to play,

1002
00:46:42,440 --> 00:46:45,000
Speaker 1: they run the ball to Montgomery. It gets stuffed and

1003
00:46:45,040 --> 00:46:47,560
Speaker 1: not only does that backfire, you have to burn a

1004
00:46:47,640 --> 00:46:50,000
Speaker 1: time out. So at that point you're playing, you have

1005
00:46:50,040 --> 00:46:52,560
Speaker 1: to go for it on fourth down obviously, which they convert,

1006
00:46:52,800 --> 00:46:55,200
Speaker 1: but now it's on side kick or bust because you

1007
00:46:55,280 --> 00:46:58,040
Speaker 1: no longer have three timeouts. Mark, that was a very

1008
00:46:58,080 --> 00:47:01,400
Speaker 1: shaky decision, probably not in either way, but that was

1009
00:47:01,400 --> 00:47:03,080
Speaker 1: the only one where I was like, well, Campbell, f

1010
00:47:03,160 --> 00:47:03,600
Speaker 1: that one up.

1011
00:47:04,520 --> 00:47:05,279
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm with you.

1012
00:47:05,320 --> 00:47:07,399
Speaker 3: I I like, I, you know, I think you said

1013
00:47:07,400 --> 00:47:10,319
Speaker 3: it perfectly, like you're going through the script and you know,

1014
00:47:10,320 --> 00:47:13,279
Speaker 3: with the bullets flying in real time, and you've got

1015
00:47:13,320 --> 00:47:14,880
Speaker 3: to do the best you can with it. And I

1016
00:47:15,160 --> 00:47:19,080
Speaker 3: didn't love that play call necessarily, but this is who

1017
00:47:19,120 --> 00:47:21,000
Speaker 3: the Lions are. And like I think that one of

1018
00:47:21,000 --> 00:47:23,680
Speaker 3: the reasons that more coaches are being hired who.

1019
00:47:23,840 --> 00:47:26,720
Speaker 4: See decision making the same way that Dan.

1020
00:47:26,640 --> 00:47:28,959
Speaker 3: Campbell does is because this is like I think Greg

1021
00:47:28,960 --> 00:47:31,160
Speaker 3: Olsen we talked about to Greg Olsen is one of

1022
00:47:31,200 --> 00:47:34,919
Speaker 3: the better describers of why these things are happening why

1023
00:47:34,960 --> 00:47:36,800
Speaker 3: coaches because he's sitting there and the best coach of

1024
00:47:36,880 --> 00:47:39,759
Speaker 3: my best right, he's describing like what today's NFL is,

1025
00:47:39,800 --> 00:47:42,480
Speaker 3: And like I understand also if you're coming from a

1026
00:47:42,520 --> 00:47:44,480
Speaker 3: different point of view, from a different time, where like

1027
00:47:44,680 --> 00:47:46,600
Speaker 3: some of this stuff drives you mad or you don't

1028
00:47:46,640 --> 00:47:49,000
Speaker 3: quite have the full read on why it's happening, that

1029
00:47:49,080 --> 00:47:50,920
Speaker 3: can be if you're a Lions fan, you've got a

1030
00:47:50,960 --> 00:47:53,200
Speaker 3: lot of frustration, But this is who they are.

1031
00:47:53,239 --> 00:47:54,040
Speaker 6: This is your head coach.

1032
00:47:54,080 --> 00:47:56,160
Speaker 3: You got this far because he's been doing this all year,

1033
00:47:56,280 --> 00:47:58,880
Speaker 3: He's been doing it last year. It's like aggression is

1034
00:47:59,000 --> 00:48:01,760
Speaker 3: the way to go, and today's league well, and especially

1035
00:48:01,760 --> 00:48:04,360
Speaker 3: with this team, which is an offense heavy team that

1036
00:48:04,440 --> 00:48:05,960
Speaker 3: didn't play great on offense done.

1037
00:48:06,120 --> 00:48:08,440
Speaker 5: You know, I think golf his ball placement was a

1038
00:48:08,440 --> 00:48:11,040
Speaker 5: little off in the second half, but that even that run, Dan,

1039
00:48:12,400 --> 00:48:12,960
Speaker 5: I hear you.

1040
00:48:13,560 --> 00:48:14,280
Speaker 6: It didn't work.

1041
00:48:14,600 --> 00:48:16,279
Speaker 5: But I think that's sort of what we get back

1042
00:48:16,280 --> 00:48:18,719
Speaker 5: to with all these It's just like, I think the

1043
00:48:18,800 --> 00:48:24,120
Speaker 5: process all made sense. It's just like they the players decide,

1044
00:48:24,239 --> 00:48:26,680
Speaker 5: and they didn't. They didn't win, they didn't execute. They

1045
00:48:26,719 --> 00:48:29,160
Speaker 5: were the inferior team ultimately, I think when you stack

1046
00:48:29,200 --> 00:48:30,799
Speaker 5: it all up, but you you kind of look back

1047
00:48:30,840 --> 00:48:32,479
Speaker 5: at that sequence and they were taking a little while

1048
00:48:32,480 --> 00:48:35,600
Speaker 5: to get down there. Ferkser barely steps out of bounds

1049
00:48:35,920 --> 00:48:38,440
Speaker 5: at the one. Looked like Ferkser was gonna.

1050
00:48:38,160 --> 00:48:41,879
Speaker 1: Score, moving like Frankenson after you'd want to like it's

1051
00:48:41,920 --> 00:48:44,400
Speaker 1: like he caught was like, why is Sam Laporte? Did

1052
00:48:44,400 --> 00:48:45,880
Speaker 1: he hurt his knee again? It's like, oh no, it's

1053
00:48:45,920 --> 00:48:47,120
Speaker 1: the guy that doesn't have a catchy.

1054
00:48:47,280 --> 00:48:50,080
Speaker 6: Yeah, I wouldn't again, I'd have to rewatch it.

1055
00:48:50,120 --> 00:48:54,400
Speaker 5: I doubt he's the first read on that play, but

1056
00:48:52,360 --> 00:48:57,080
Speaker 5: a lot right, he probably should have. Then they do

1057
00:48:57,360 --> 00:48:59,279
Speaker 5: throw on second down, so then you're at a point.

1058
00:49:00,200 --> 00:49:04,840
Speaker 5: You're at a point you have to score, and like you,

1059
00:49:05,160 --> 00:49:08,040
Speaker 5: they know that. You know that, they know that you

1060
00:49:08,080 --> 00:49:10,359
Speaker 5: can't like that. You don't want to blow the time

1061
00:49:10,400 --> 00:49:12,320
Speaker 5: out there, and so you're trying to catch them a

1062
00:49:12,360 --> 00:49:16,160
Speaker 5: little by suprise perhaps, but you're also thinking, what are

1063
00:49:16,160 --> 00:49:18,560
Speaker 5: we better at? What can we do best? We can

1064
00:49:18,640 --> 00:49:21,239
Speaker 5: run the ball. It's a low it's a higher percentage play.

1065
00:49:21,280 --> 00:49:24,080
Speaker 5: And yes they did get the touchdown. That touchdown was

1066
00:49:24,120 --> 00:49:26,960
Speaker 5: like one of the best plays a Lion's receiver made

1067
00:49:27,000 --> 00:49:29,040
Speaker 5: all day. Was a great catch by Jamison Williams on

1068
00:49:29,120 --> 00:49:31,600
Speaker 5: a great throw by Golf. It was a very difficult

1069
00:49:31,760 --> 00:49:35,080
Speaker 5: It's just hard for those to work. And like I

1070
00:49:35,200 --> 00:49:38,799
Speaker 5: just come back to like the players have to make

1071
00:49:38,840 --> 00:49:40,480
Speaker 5: the plays, and the Lions just didn't make it. Like

1072
00:49:40,520 --> 00:49:43,640
Speaker 5: they had four drives that went poor before that touchdown drive. Right,

1073
00:49:44,040 --> 00:49:47,600
Speaker 5: here's how three of them ended, two with Reynolds drops.

1074
00:49:47,719 --> 00:49:51,000
Speaker 5: We didn't mention the first Reynolds the second Reynolds drop,

1075
00:49:51,000 --> 00:49:52,840
Speaker 5: which to me was the bigger one. It was on

1076
00:49:52,880 --> 00:49:56,560
Speaker 5: a third down. He's wide open on a crossing route.

1077
00:49:56,560 --> 00:49:59,160
Speaker 5: It's a perfect throw and he literally kicks it like

1078
00:49:59,200 --> 00:50:01,040
Speaker 5: he drops it in and then he kicks it. So

1079
00:50:01,200 --> 00:50:03,560
Speaker 5: there's four drives in a row that go poorly. Two

1080
00:50:03,560 --> 00:50:06,160
Speaker 5: are On Reynolds drops and one is Gibs his fumball.

1081
00:50:06,239 --> 00:50:09,960
Speaker 5: So it's just like yeah, and they dropped the ball literally.

1082
00:50:09,600 --> 00:50:12,160
Speaker 3: And like you know, Aman Rossaint Brown, who had just

1083
00:50:12,440 --> 00:50:14,440
Speaker 3: I thought in the first half, I was like, just

1084
00:50:14,480 --> 00:50:17,520
Speaker 3: gonna take over this entire game. In the second half,

1085
00:50:17,600 --> 00:50:19,600
Speaker 3: you know, ta mirror what you're talking about about, just

1086
00:50:19,680 --> 00:50:23,359
Speaker 3: drives crumbling away. He wasn't targeted till eight minutes left

1087
00:50:23,360 --> 00:50:25,640
Speaker 3: to go in the game. It's like, so the guys

1088
00:50:25,640 --> 00:50:28,960
Speaker 3: in the first half that were dominating San Francisco, uh,

1089
00:50:29,480 --> 00:50:31,280
Speaker 3: a lot of a lot of it just sort of vanished.

1090
00:50:31,560 --> 00:50:32,640
Speaker 2: I want to I.

1091
00:50:32,600 --> 00:50:35,839
Speaker 1: Want to throw some flowers to your boy, Mark Rock Party,

1092
00:50:35,880 --> 00:50:40,759
Speaker 1: who will be obviously the subject of exhaust of examination.

1093
00:50:40,320 --> 00:50:41,240
Speaker 2: For the next two weeks.

1094
00:50:41,800 --> 00:50:45,480
Speaker 1: And I thought the beginning of this game, and you know,

1095
00:50:45,520 --> 00:50:48,560
Speaker 1: even into and including that throw of the big completion

1096
00:50:48,640 --> 00:50:52,320
Speaker 1: to Ayuk, was everything that has concerned me about Party

1097
00:50:52,360 --> 00:50:56,239
Speaker 1: in big spots this season. But back to the matter

1098
00:50:56,320 --> 00:50:59,759
Speaker 1: is sometimes you just got things are with you, things

1099
00:50:59,800 --> 00:51:02,319
Speaker 1: are clicking, and you're having a good season. And he

1100
00:51:02,360 --> 00:51:04,680
Speaker 1: did throw he got away with a couple bad throws,

1101
00:51:04,680 --> 00:51:07,719
Speaker 1: a couple of floaters, he survived them. The other team

1102
00:51:07,760 --> 00:51:09,719
Speaker 1: didn't take advantage of it. But then when it was

1103
00:51:09,760 --> 00:51:11,960
Speaker 1: time to win the game in the second half, just

1104
00:51:11,960 --> 00:51:13,239
Speaker 1: like he did it in the end of the game

1105
00:51:13,280 --> 00:51:15,920
Speaker 1: against the Packers, he made big plays. He was he

1106
00:51:15,960 --> 00:51:19,279
Speaker 1: was precise with his throwing and most of most of all,

1107
00:51:19,320 --> 00:51:21,000
Speaker 1: the thing I think people will remember about this Party

1108
00:51:21,000 --> 00:51:23,280
Speaker 1: performance is how many big plays he made with his legs.

1109
00:51:23,400 --> 00:51:26,239
Speaker 1: Right for a guy that is obviously mister irrelevant, not

1110
00:51:26,280 --> 00:51:29,560
Speaker 1: the most athletic, how many times did he escape pressure

1111
00:51:29,719 --> 00:51:33,719
Speaker 1: and turn a sack or no gain into ten, fifteen,

1112
00:51:34,480 --> 00:51:36,799
Speaker 1: eighteen yards And that was a big difference in this.

1113
00:51:36,760 --> 00:51:37,279
Speaker 2: Game as well.

1114
00:51:37,400 --> 00:51:41,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, like the twenty one yard run that came after

1115
00:51:41,719 --> 00:51:45,360
Speaker 3: the Gibbs fumble that set up a Christian McCaffrey touchdown

1116
00:51:45,400 --> 00:51:47,279
Speaker 3: to tie the game at twenty four twenty four, It's like,

1117
00:51:47,719 --> 00:51:50,560
Speaker 3: you don't just expect that from Rock Party. And I

1118
00:51:50,600 --> 00:51:52,800
Speaker 3: thought tonight, you know, he had something like fifty something

1119
00:51:52,880 --> 00:51:55,399
Speaker 3: yards on the ground, where it's say forty eight nine

1120
00:51:55,440 --> 00:51:56,120
Speaker 3: point six.

1121
00:51:55,960 --> 00:51:56,760
Speaker 4: Yards per carry.

1122
00:51:57,360 --> 00:51:59,440
Speaker 3: He added it to his game, and it's like, this

1123
00:51:59,480 --> 00:52:03,399
Speaker 3: is a really young quarterback who's adding some of those

1124
00:52:03,440 --> 00:52:06,000
Speaker 3: game and it's like, even when Mahomes did that last season,

1125
00:52:06,040 --> 00:52:07,799
Speaker 3: I thought, to some agree, it's like, what more can

1126
00:52:07,840 --> 00:52:10,840
Speaker 3: he Mahomes do? It's like in the playoffs, Mahomes on

1127
00:52:10,880 --> 00:52:13,160
Speaker 3: the ground with like a high angle sprain was a

1128
00:52:13,239 --> 00:52:16,520
Speaker 3: differentiator game after game and in this game, brock Purty

1129
00:52:16,560 --> 00:52:18,480
Speaker 3: added that to his palette.

1130
00:52:18,560 --> 00:52:20,520
Speaker 5: And he had the huge run last week. It was

1131
00:52:20,520 --> 00:52:24,080
Speaker 5: only one against the Packers, but by far a career

1132
00:52:24,160 --> 00:52:27,120
Speaker 5: high in rushing. And it's funny because compared to the

1133
00:52:27,160 --> 00:52:31,560
Speaker 5: average NFL quarterback now he's You're right, he's not that athletic,

1134
00:52:31,800 --> 00:52:34,239
Speaker 5: but he does have good short area quickness. I mean

1135
00:52:34,280 --> 00:52:36,839
Speaker 5: you could see it in something like he can move

1136
00:52:37,480 --> 00:52:40,319
Speaker 5: if you put him in the NFL twenty years ago.

1137
00:52:40,640 --> 00:52:43,520
Speaker 5: He's a better than average runner. He is above sort

1138
00:52:43,560 --> 00:52:45,759
Speaker 5: of the line that you almost need to be. Now

1139
00:52:45,760 --> 00:52:48,919
Speaker 5: he is Jeff Garcia maybe right, he is, No Jeff

1140
00:52:48,960 --> 00:52:52,080
Speaker 5: Garcia is a great runner, but like he's athletic. Help

1141
00:52:52,120 --> 00:52:54,759
Speaker 5: you make yeah, yeh, yeah, he's athletic enough, is what

1142
00:52:54,800 --> 00:52:57,480
Speaker 5: I'm saying. And like he made those now he was fortunate.

1143
00:52:57,480 --> 00:53:00,560
Speaker 5: I thought, like the opening driving the game was very

1144
00:53:00,680 --> 00:53:04,080
Speaker 5: typical of how his game was two absolute big boy throws.

1145
00:53:04,080 --> 00:53:06,600
Speaker 5: It's almost hard to remember by that, like one where

1146
00:53:06,600 --> 00:53:09,120
Speaker 5: he was getting hit, another just beautiful ball placement, and

1147
00:53:09,160 --> 00:53:12,160
Speaker 5: then he almost threw an interception that they dropped to

1148
00:53:12,239 --> 00:53:15,319
Speaker 5: start the second half. On that field goal drive, that

1149
00:53:15,400 --> 00:53:18,040
Speaker 5: drive ended almost he was melting down at the end

1150
00:53:18,080 --> 00:53:20,560
Speaker 5: of that drive. He had like three crazy decisions in

1151
00:53:20,600 --> 00:53:22,920
Speaker 5: a row before they kicked that field goal, and he

1152
00:53:22,960 --> 00:53:23,719
Speaker 5: got away with like.

1153
00:53:23,840 --> 00:53:25,120
Speaker 2: That's what I thought I might be getting.

1154
00:53:25,320 --> 00:53:28,120
Speaker 1: Donald's sideline shot had double fingers crossed.

1155
00:53:28,120 --> 00:53:31,480
Speaker 5: He's not a very safe player, but those mistakes that

1156
00:53:31,520 --> 00:53:33,560
Speaker 5: he makes doesn't linger, and he didn't really make any

1157
00:53:33,719 --> 00:53:34,320
Speaker 5: the rest.

1158
00:53:34,120 --> 00:53:34,520
Speaker 2: Of the game.

1159
00:53:34,600 --> 00:53:36,520
Speaker 3: One of the passes that you're talking about on the

1160
00:53:36,520 --> 00:53:38,960
Speaker 3: first drive, because there was a perfect throw to Brandon Aiyuk,

1161
00:53:39,960 --> 00:53:42,880
Speaker 3: but there was a play on third down where he

1162
00:53:42,920 --> 00:53:45,640
Speaker 3: completed a pass to Deebo Samuel where he was destroyed

1163
00:53:45,680 --> 00:53:45,960
Speaker 3: on it.

1164
00:53:46,160 --> 00:53:47,920
Speaker 4: And I just do think he's a tough quarterback.

1165
00:53:47,920 --> 00:53:50,319
Speaker 1: Oh year, it was like, there's no questioning the fact

1166
00:53:50,320 --> 00:53:52,000
Speaker 1: that he will do anything he is making.

1167
00:53:52,440 --> 00:53:53,319
Speaker 2: He's easy to root for.

1168
00:53:53,680 --> 00:53:55,839
Speaker 1: He's got the guts of a burglar. As they say

1169
00:53:55,880 --> 00:54:00,239
Speaker 1: he doesn't he does not. If he throws interceptions he's

1170
00:54:00,239 --> 00:54:03,359
Speaker 1: going to keep throwing, which could lead to games like

1171
00:54:03,640 --> 00:54:06,840
Speaker 1: Christmas and Balter. But also it shows that he's not afraid.

1172
00:54:06,880 --> 00:54:09,680
Speaker 1: He believes in himself by the way going back and

1173
00:54:09,719 --> 00:54:13,120
Speaker 1: I will yes, maybe the fumble, the immediate fumble after

1174
00:54:13,160 --> 00:54:14,719
Speaker 1: that touchdown.

1175
00:54:14,320 --> 00:54:16,680
Speaker 2: Is kind of the play that really swung the game.

1176
00:54:17,239 --> 00:54:19,200
Speaker 5: But I think it's forgotten a little bit because everything

1177
00:54:19,280 --> 00:54:21,200
Speaker 5: was going like it just happened so quick.

1178
00:54:21,400 --> 00:54:23,160
Speaker 6: I think the first play of the drive.

1179
00:54:23,000 --> 00:54:30,279
Speaker 1: The Ayuk catch off the miss by Bill Dore, is

1180
00:54:30,320 --> 00:54:32,920
Speaker 1: the play that I'll remember as when everything turned and

1181
00:54:32,960 --> 00:54:35,400
Speaker 1: when this truly became momentum.

1182
00:54:36,000 --> 00:54:39,960
Speaker 2: Greg Let's let's listen to the Dan, because I want

1183
00:54:40,000 --> 00:54:42,319
Speaker 2: to hear from Dan Miller. It's a bummer that there

1184
00:54:42,360 --> 00:54:43,040
Speaker 2: you're not getting to.

1185
00:54:43,040 --> 00:54:44,960
Speaker 1: The super Bowl, and I think it's sixty sixty years

1186
00:54:44,960 --> 00:54:48,880
Speaker 1: now without the Lions winning a championship. Here's the call

1187
00:54:49,320 --> 00:54:51,719
Speaker 1: of that play from the Detroit side of things. And

1188
00:54:51,760 --> 00:54:55,080
Speaker 1: then right after that, if we could Eric play Ayuk's

1189
00:54:55,160 --> 00:54:56,760
Speaker 1: postgame comments about the play.

1190
00:54:57,120 --> 00:55:01,200
Speaker 7: Pretty out of the gun, takes to snap back and

1191
00:55:01,280 --> 00:55:03,680
Speaker 7: looking looking, looking, loading, throwing.

1192
00:55:03,400 --> 00:55:04,360
Speaker 2: Deep down field.

1193
00:55:04,480 --> 00:55:08,040
Speaker 8: It is up in the air and talk by hire,

1194
00:55:08,160 --> 00:55:10,560
Speaker 8: you get the heads.

1195
00:55:10,320 --> 00:55:14,399
Speaker 6: Of Kindle Bill Door, are you played the grab? There

1196
00:55:14,480 --> 00:55:16,280
Speaker 6: is a flag down as well?

1197
00:55:16,560 --> 00:55:19,520
Speaker 7: Why it looks like he's gonna go against the Lions

1198
00:55:20,320 --> 00:55:21,879
Speaker 7: the hit there is.

1199
00:55:21,800 --> 00:55:25,279
Speaker 10: No phone in the play cats was made was down

1200
00:55:25,440 --> 00:55:26,160
Speaker 10: the contract with.

1201
00:55:26,200 --> 00:55:30,720
Speaker 7: The thing and half first went right through Bill Door's

1202
00:55:30,719 --> 00:55:32,040
Speaker 7: hands and right off his face.

1203
00:55:32,160 --> 00:55:35,880
Speaker 5: Map ely right before the game, A lady bug landing

1204
00:55:35,920 --> 00:55:36,600
Speaker 5: on my shoe.

1205
00:55:37,120 --> 00:55:39,160
Speaker 6: Hey, y'all know what that means. So that's all I

1206
00:55:39,160 --> 00:55:42,040
Speaker 6: can say. No, I don't know, I don't know. Just great.

1207
00:55:42,120 --> 00:55:46,160
Speaker 6: Let dolls with it today, great win by game, It's

1208
00:55:46,200 --> 00:55:48,480
Speaker 6: crazy super star.

1209
00:55:49,520 --> 00:55:52,319
Speaker 5: That probably was the moment, although the Gibbs fumble really

1210
00:55:53,440 --> 00:55:58,319
Speaker 5: cemented it that Lions fans must have started feeling like,

1211
00:55:58,719 --> 00:55:59,319
Speaker 5: oh my god.

1212
00:55:59,360 --> 00:56:01,480
Speaker 1: Great guy said it was twenty four to twenty four.

1213
00:56:01,600 --> 00:56:03,960
Speaker 1: After the fumbling score, it already felt like thirty four

1214
00:56:04,000 --> 00:56:05,840
Speaker 1: to twenty four, right, but yeah, and that was in

1215
00:56:05,880 --> 00:56:06,719
Speaker 1: the blink of another eye.

1216
00:56:06,800 --> 00:56:08,960
Speaker 5: The score at that point is twenty four to ten,

1217
00:56:09,200 --> 00:56:12,480
Speaker 5: and you just feel like, if you're a Lions fan,

1218
00:56:13,280 --> 00:56:16,080
Speaker 5: you've been seeing lady bugs landing on other teams' shoes

1219
00:56:16,120 --> 00:56:19,960
Speaker 5: for fifty something years, and you felt like this was

1220
00:56:20,719 --> 00:56:22,799
Speaker 5: maybe the year that was going to be different. We

1221
00:56:22,880 --> 00:56:27,359
Speaker 5: have Dan Campbell talking after the game about how there's

1222
00:56:27,400 --> 00:56:31,359
Speaker 5: no guarantee that you ever do get back to this point.

1223
00:56:31,600 --> 00:56:35,280
Speaker 11: Look, I told those guys this may have been always shot.

1224
00:56:35,760 --> 00:56:36,480
Speaker 11: Do I think that?

1225
00:56:37,080 --> 00:56:37,120
Speaker 1: No?

1226
00:56:37,520 --> 00:56:40,600
Speaker 11: Do I believe that. However, I know how hard it

1227
00:56:40,680 --> 00:56:43,600
Speaker 11: is to get here. I'm well aware, and it'll be

1228
00:56:44,600 --> 00:56:46,399
Speaker 11: it's going to be twice as hard to get back

1229
00:56:46,440 --> 00:56:48,719
Speaker 11: to this point next year than it was this year.

1230
00:56:48,960 --> 00:56:50,080
Speaker 11: That's that's the reality.

1231
00:56:50,800 --> 00:56:53,480
Speaker 3: Well, I would say this, though, you can look across

1232
00:56:53,520 --> 00:56:55,920
Speaker 3: to real point to the Niners and say that a

1233
00:56:56,000 --> 00:56:58,120
Speaker 3: team that's really well built, like the Lions with a

1234
00:56:58,280 --> 00:57:00,279
Speaker 3: that I didn't. I don't think they overachieved this year.

1235
00:57:00,280 --> 00:57:03,080
Speaker 3: I think they adequally achieved for like the roster they have, like,

1236
00:57:03,760 --> 00:57:05,840
Speaker 3: but they're not going away, Like I got what he's saying,

1237
00:57:05,840 --> 00:57:07,920
Speaker 3: but like, yeah, but the hope for the.

1238
00:57:07,880 --> 00:57:13,000
Speaker 1: Life for every for every forty nine Ers team, and

1239
00:57:13,080 --> 00:57:16,919
Speaker 1: every Chiefs team and back in the day, every Patriots team.

1240
00:57:16,960 --> 00:57:20,160
Speaker 1: There are so many other teams that look like they

1241
00:57:20,160 --> 00:57:22,320
Speaker 1: have a bright tomorrow and you think, oh, they'll be

1242
00:57:22,360 --> 00:57:24,600
Speaker 1: back next year. We talked about this last week too.

1243
00:57:25,000 --> 00:57:27,120
Speaker 1: You just never know. And he's right because this.

1244
00:57:28,240 --> 00:57:31,080
Speaker 3: Telling them that he like him telling them that because

1245
00:57:31,080 --> 00:57:32,280
Speaker 3: that's also and I'm.

1246
00:57:32,120 --> 00:57:34,160
Speaker 1: Glad that he's being honest, because this was a good

1247
00:57:34,200 --> 00:57:36,880
Speaker 1: time to strike for the Detroit Lions in that division,

1248
00:57:37,160 --> 00:57:39,360
Speaker 1: with the Packers trying to figure things out, the Bear

1249
00:57:39,480 --> 00:57:42,920
Speaker 1: still trying to figure things out, the Vikings being the

1250
00:57:43,000 --> 00:57:45,440
Speaker 1: Vikings like this was this felt like their chance and

1251
00:57:45,680 --> 00:57:47,280
Speaker 1: they and they let it slip away. When we have

1252
00:57:47,480 --> 00:57:50,080
Speaker 1: Dan Campbell. I don't know what's going with Dan's nose

1253
00:57:50,080 --> 00:57:53,440
Speaker 1: the last couple of weeks, very red. It's been distracting

1254
00:57:53,440 --> 00:57:56,840
Speaker 1: to me. I don't bother anyone else. I I hadn't

1255
00:57:56,880 --> 00:57:59,440
Speaker 1: notice that, but now all not. I'm Erican.

1256
00:57:59,520 --> 00:58:02,200
Speaker 5: I'm the most color blind man that's right in America.

1257
00:58:02,640 --> 00:58:03,760
Speaker 5: His nose look great to me.

1258
00:58:04,720 --> 00:58:06,920
Speaker 1: I mean it's a very masculine nose, the shape and

1259
00:58:06,920 --> 00:58:10,520
Speaker 1: structure of it, but there's a discoloration or a high coloration.

1260
00:58:11,240 --> 00:58:13,120
Speaker 2: Sorry to rub it in. Greg. Here is more Campbell

1261
00:58:13,160 --> 00:58:14,800
Speaker 2: on the game that almost was.

1262
00:58:15,440 --> 00:58:17,280
Speaker 11: You know, Coach Shannan's hell of a coach. That's a

1263
00:58:17,320 --> 00:58:20,320
Speaker 11: team that you know, they've they've done it, they lived it,

1264
00:58:20,440 --> 00:58:26,080
Speaker 11: and they made the place. So credit to them. I'm really,

1265
00:58:26,320 --> 00:58:29,360
Speaker 11: I'm really proud of all these guys. I am. I mean,

1266
00:58:29,680 --> 00:58:35,120
Speaker 11: and it's hard when you lose that way. It's hard,

1267
00:58:36,080 --> 00:58:37,960
Speaker 11: you know, you feel like you get your heart ripped out.

1268
00:58:38,080 --> 00:58:42,720
Speaker 1: So and on the other side with Shanahan, because I

1269
00:58:42,760 --> 00:58:46,240
Speaker 1: thought something he said after the game really illuminated how

1270
00:58:46,240 --> 00:58:49,480
Speaker 1: special they are and how different they are. He said,

1271
00:58:49,520 --> 00:58:51,960
Speaker 1: we played as bad of a first half as we could,

1272
00:58:52,040 --> 00:58:55,080
Speaker 1: but we were still within seventeen. How many teams can

1273
00:58:55,120 --> 00:58:57,560
Speaker 1: say that and be like, we're all right, it's only seventeen.

1274
00:58:57,720 --> 00:59:01,480
Speaker 1: That's a three score game in the second half of

1275
00:59:01,520 --> 00:59:04,400
Speaker 1: the NFC Championship game. But that's not just coach speak,

1276
00:59:04,480 --> 00:59:07,560
Speaker 1: Like he knows he has the dogs to dig out

1277
00:59:07,720 --> 00:59:10,760
Speaker 1: and they made him look great in this game. Because

1278
00:59:10,960 --> 00:59:13,520
Speaker 1: they lose this game, Greg Mark, there's a lot of

1279
00:59:13,640 --> 00:59:16,200
Speaker 1: chatter around Shanahan the guy that just can't get over

1280
00:59:16,200 --> 00:59:18,360
Speaker 1: the hump, and instead, in two weeks it gets another

1281
00:59:18,440 --> 00:59:22,640
Speaker 1: chance to kind of really stamp himself as if not

1282
00:59:22,760 --> 00:59:25,080
Speaker 1: the top of the chain of coaches right there.

1283
00:59:25,280 --> 00:59:29,760
Speaker 3: I think it's easy to feel like almost a sadness

1284
00:59:29,800 --> 00:59:32,640
Speaker 3: if you're a generalist and you're not rooting specifically for

1285
00:59:32,680 --> 00:59:34,720
Speaker 3: one of these teams, that you lose the experience of

1286
00:59:34,760 --> 00:59:37,320
Speaker 3: the Lions going on to do something that we would

1287
00:59:37,320 --> 00:59:37,720
Speaker 3: have been fun.

1288
00:59:37,800 --> 00:59:38,480
Speaker 6: It would have been fun.

1289
00:59:38,560 --> 00:59:41,520
Speaker 3: But that said, if we shift focus in a couple

1290
00:59:41,560 --> 00:59:44,080
Speaker 3: of days, like what the Niners have been through and

1291
00:59:44,160 --> 00:59:46,200
Speaker 3: how close they've come, and how close Shanahan has come,

1292
00:59:46,280 --> 00:59:48,760
Speaker 3: Like he knows you can come back from seventeen because

1293
00:59:48,760 --> 00:59:51,000
Speaker 3: he lived through twenty eight to three and he's lived

1294
00:59:51,000 --> 00:59:54,800
Speaker 3: through a thousand moments coaching in all different situations, and

1295
00:59:54,840 --> 00:59:57,560
Speaker 3: he's got the right people on the field to do it.

1296
00:59:58,440 --> 01:00:00,600
Speaker 3: I mean, this guy's been doing this for a entire life,

1297
01:00:00,640 --> 01:00:02,120
Speaker 3: and it's like there is a part of me that's

1298
01:00:02,160 --> 01:00:05,280
Speaker 3: like I cannot help it root for Kyle Shanahan to

1299
01:00:05,320 --> 01:00:08,680
Speaker 3: finally do it because he has come so close over well.

1300
01:00:08,560 --> 01:00:13,000
Speaker 5: Yeah, because they know how the further you get, the

1301
01:00:13,000 --> 01:00:15,640
Speaker 5: more brute of the losses. And this will be the

1302
01:00:15,800 --> 01:00:19,160
Speaker 5: fourth time in five years. I mean they're not a

1303
01:00:19,240 --> 01:00:22,520
Speaker 5: dynasty in the way that we use the word, but

1304
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Speaker 5: to make four conference finals in five years, to make

1305
01:00:27,280 --> 01:00:31,600
Speaker 5: two Super Bowls now in five seasons, you just feel

1306
01:00:31,600 --> 01:00:35,120
Speaker 5: like you got it in those By the way, we're

1307
01:00:35,160 --> 01:00:39,480
Speaker 5: brutal losses. Uh, you gotta win, you you gotta get

1308
01:00:39,520 --> 01:00:41,479
Speaker 5: it done. And I do think they learned They can't

1309
01:00:41,520 --> 01:00:44,120
Speaker 5: fall down like that against the Chiefs, obviously, but I

1310
01:00:44,160 --> 01:00:46,720
Speaker 5: do think they learned something about themselves because I I

1311
01:00:46,720 --> 01:00:49,440
Speaker 5: think one of the reasons I thought this team was

1312
01:00:49,440 --> 01:00:51,800
Speaker 5: not built to make that come up wasn't the offense.

1313
01:00:52,600 --> 01:00:56,200
Speaker 5: It was that their defense looked like trash for large

1314
01:00:56,240 --> 01:00:59,240
Speaker 5: portions of this Packers and Lions game, and that that's

1315
01:00:59,520 --> 01:01:02,280
Speaker 5: something to be concerned about. The Lions had almost like

1316
01:01:02,360 --> 01:01:04,960
Speaker 5: two hundred yards. I just thought the game script was

1317
01:01:05,000 --> 01:01:06,800
Speaker 5: such that the Lions would be able to run the

1318
01:01:06,840 --> 01:01:09,320
Speaker 5: ball in the second half. The Lions still ended up

1319
01:01:09,320 --> 01:01:12,520
Speaker 5: with one eight two GiB Montgomery fifteen for ninety three,

1320
01:01:12,880 --> 01:01:15,480
Speaker 5: Gibbs twelve for forty five, and Jamison Williams had that

1321
01:01:15,520 --> 01:01:18,240
Speaker 5: electric forty two yard touchdown to start the game. And

1322
01:01:18,320 --> 01:01:22,160
Speaker 5: yet give the defense credit to when they needed to

1323
01:01:22,480 --> 01:01:24,440
Speaker 5: in the second half. They do have a lot of

1324
01:01:24,480 --> 01:01:27,520
Speaker 5: star players, and they came together enough. Their run defense,

1325
01:01:27,560 --> 01:01:29,680
Speaker 5: which is a problem and we'll talk about it leading

1326
01:01:29,720 --> 01:01:32,840
Speaker 5: up to the Super Bowl, it did get good enough

1327
01:01:32,920 --> 01:01:34,920
Speaker 5: when it really mattered to get them over the line.

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01:01:35,280 --> 01:01:37,520
Speaker 2: Unbelievable, Yeah, I can't.

1329
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Speaker 1: And that was by the way, the Sunday Drive presented

1330
01:01:40,920 --> 01:01:43,320
Speaker 1: by Toyota, where a drive. Of course, it was let's

1331
01:01:43,320 --> 01:01:46,760
Speaker 1: go places like Las Vegas. Learn moy learn more at

1332
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Speaker 1: toyota dot com. Slash ran Islander. Yeah, I'm not gonna

1333
01:01:50,760 --> 01:01:52,960
Speaker 1: lie like this is not listen if it's not the

1334
01:01:53,040 --> 01:01:55,760
Speaker 1: Jets playing, I'm not gonna get overly invested in terms

1335
01:01:55,800 --> 01:01:58,640
Speaker 1: of heartbreak. Although I feel for Cynthia Frielan, who's a

1336
01:01:58,680 --> 01:02:01,160
Speaker 1: front of ours, I absolutely feel for Patra, who we

1337
01:02:01,240 --> 01:02:03,160
Speaker 1: know forever and he was lined up to be on

1338
01:02:03,200 --> 01:02:06,520
Speaker 1: the show tonight. It was texting with him earlier late

1339
01:02:06,600 --> 01:02:08,360
Speaker 1: last week, like, you know, we try to get him

1340
01:02:08,360 --> 01:02:10,160
Speaker 1: out on Thursday. We couldn't make it happen. It was like,

1341
01:02:10,320 --> 01:02:13,520
Speaker 1: how about Sunday if they win? And just knowing and

1342
01:02:13,760 --> 01:02:16,960
Speaker 1: listen with Patra, you don't. We're not texting Patrick, you say,

1343
01:02:17,080 --> 01:02:19,160
Speaker 1: give him a wide berth as you would any die

1344
01:02:19,200 --> 01:02:19,640
Speaker 1: hard fan.

1345
01:02:19,760 --> 01:02:22,760
Speaker 2: Right now. I don't even like that. The email is

1346
01:02:22,800 --> 01:02:24,320
Speaker 2: sitting in his inbox right now.

1347
01:02:24,400 --> 01:02:28,680
Speaker 1: No, he's probably the Eric job. We're not coming after

1348
01:02:28,680 --> 01:02:31,320
Speaker 1: you because you're doing your job. There's to make a

1349
01:02:31,360 --> 01:02:33,760
Speaker 1: show like we do. There has to be things like

1350
01:02:33,800 --> 01:02:37,560
Speaker 1: setting up link ups for a essentially a feed into

1351
01:02:37,600 --> 01:02:42,320
Speaker 1: the studio. But listen, you don't you've never met Kevin

1352
01:02:42,360 --> 01:02:46,880
Speaker 1: Patra all right, He's an intense, powerful man who works out.

1353
01:02:47,720 --> 01:02:49,680
Speaker 2: I just I don't want you to be hurt.

1354
01:02:49,960 --> 01:02:53,480
Speaker 13: The timing of it all was just very, very unlucky

1355
01:02:53,520 --> 01:02:56,000
Speaker 13: because I see that as I'm trying to set this

1356
01:02:56,240 --> 01:02:58,960
Speaker 13: up the book, Hey, if they win, we're gonna do this.

1357
01:02:59,000 --> 01:03:01,640
Speaker 13: I'm okay, i gotta get this and now moving parts.

1358
01:03:02,080 --> 01:03:05,840
Speaker 13: And as I'm sending this link like it's it's flipping,

1359
01:03:06,200 --> 01:03:10,920
Speaker 13: and then I get separate messages from both Dan and Greg. Hey, like,

1360
01:03:11,120 --> 01:03:16,400
Speaker 13: don't Mark wasn't even worried about patches directly, especially at

1361
01:03:16,440 --> 01:03:19,320
Speaker 13: this moment, Like at this moment, like never even cross

1362
01:03:19,360 --> 01:03:19,800
Speaker 13: marks month.

1363
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Speaker 6: So it was But yeah, I mean, hopefully it just

1364
01:03:21,800 --> 01:03:22,480
Speaker 6: went to spam.

1365
01:03:22,480 --> 01:03:23,320
Speaker 2: And here's the thing.

1366
01:03:23,400 --> 01:03:24,920
Speaker 1: And I'm not saying you should do this, because this

1367
01:03:24,960 --> 01:03:27,560
Speaker 1: could lead to other problems. If you could somehow hack

1368
01:03:27,640 --> 01:03:32,200
Speaker 1: into the NFL network mainframe to unsend that email before

1369
01:03:32,280 --> 01:03:34,760
Speaker 1: Patrick wakes up for like his five am shift tomorrow

1370
01:03:35,160 --> 01:03:38,600
Speaker 1: to write news items about this great comeback by the Niners,

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01:03:39,160 --> 01:03:40,960
Speaker 1: I think it would be in your best interest, and

1372
01:03:41,000 --> 01:03:41,640
Speaker 1: I'll leave it there.

1373
01:03:41,680 --> 01:03:42,720
Speaker 2: I didn't say to do it.

1374
01:03:42,760 --> 01:03:44,800
Speaker 1: I'm just saying that's one thing you might want to think,

1375
01:03:44,960 --> 01:03:46,800
Speaker 1: what if I just spam him, so it just gets

1376
01:03:46,840 --> 01:03:48,960
Speaker 1: pushed and pushed and pushed and pushed and pushed him.

1377
01:03:49,040 --> 01:03:50,440
Speaker 2: That's another potential incredible hole.

1378
01:03:50,480 --> 01:03:50,920
Speaker 6: It's like a lot.

1379
01:03:51,400 --> 01:03:54,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's got to be very careful. I would say,

1380
01:03:54,280 --> 01:03:57,520
Speaker 1: I think he will survive. He'll be Mexico's and options,

1381
01:03:57,640 --> 01:03:58,120
Speaker 1: He'll be okay.

1382
01:03:58,120 --> 01:03:59,880
Speaker 5: And if he comes at us, we'll just blame it

1383
01:04:00,080 --> 01:04:03,280
Speaker 5: on the shadowy League figure who actually lost the game

1384
01:04:03,320 --> 01:04:06,160
Speaker 5: for the Lions by sending like a text that they

1385
01:04:06,160 --> 01:04:08,200
Speaker 5: can't do that. Yeah, that jinks them when they were

1386
01:04:08,240 --> 01:04:09,320
Speaker 5: up seventeen that you.

1387
01:04:09,280 --> 01:04:12,280
Speaker 2: Can't do that, you can't do it.

1388
01:04:13,120 --> 01:04:13,360
Speaker 6: Yeah.

1389
01:04:13,440 --> 01:04:16,080
Speaker 1: And so what I was saying was, if it's not

1390
01:04:16,120 --> 01:04:18,400
Speaker 1: the Jets, I'm not really gonna be heartbroken about anything,

1391
01:04:18,440 --> 01:04:21,600
Speaker 1: but I will. I will say I did, just like

1392
01:04:21,760 --> 01:04:24,920
Speaker 1: probably a lot of people, I had thoughts of, you know,

1393
01:04:25,800 --> 01:04:28,640
Speaker 1: one hundred thousand Lions fans coming into Vegas and what

1394
01:04:29,120 --> 01:04:31,040
Speaker 1: as we've been so lucky to cover so many Super

1395
01:04:31,040 --> 01:04:33,240
Speaker 1: Bowls and we're going to be doing it again and

1396
01:04:33,280 --> 01:04:33,880
Speaker 1: I can't wait.

1397
01:04:34,280 --> 01:04:34,400
Speaker 11: Uh.

1398
01:04:34,640 --> 01:04:38,240
Speaker 1: That would have been a completely unique, obviously new experience,

1399
01:04:38,280 --> 01:04:41,720
Speaker 1: and hopefully hopefully the Lions get over the hump down

1400
01:04:41,720 --> 01:04:44,240
Speaker 1: the line. But there's no doubting what Campbell said is

1401
01:04:44,280 --> 01:04:45,120
Speaker 1: absolutely true.

1402
01:04:45,360 --> 01:04:47,720
Speaker 2: You don't know. You just never know if you're going

1403
01:04:47,800 --> 01:04:48,880
Speaker 2: to get another crack at it.

1404
01:04:48,920 --> 01:04:50,920
Speaker 1: And when you get to this level, at this stage,

1405
01:04:51,160 --> 01:04:53,280
Speaker 1: to let it slip away is just crushing.

1406
01:04:53,400 --> 01:04:55,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, Like they showed the you know, this is unusual,

1407
01:04:56,000 --> 01:04:58,760
Speaker 3: but like they cut to Ford Field, which was a

1408
01:04:58,800 --> 01:05:03,000
Speaker 3: capacity crowd. I remember as a child watching like WrestleMania three,

1409
01:05:03,440 --> 01:05:05,960
Speaker 3: not at WrestleMania three, but at like at a stadium

1410
01:05:06,000 --> 01:05:08,680
Speaker 3: with a bunch of other people, which my dad was

1411
01:05:08,720 --> 01:05:10,560
Speaker 3: forced to take me to a highly in nerdy we

1412
01:05:10,600 --> 01:05:12,520
Speaker 3: has to do like close circuit. Yeah, it was close circuit.

1413
01:05:12,680 --> 01:05:13,680
Speaker 4: This was the opposite of that.

1414
01:05:13,760 --> 01:05:18,080
Speaker 3: This was like a city like literally celebrating for many

1415
01:05:18,120 --> 01:05:21,200
Speaker 3: of them, the biggest event that they've ever come together for.

1416
01:05:21,280 --> 01:05:23,760
Speaker 3: And so they stopped showing that stadium as the two

1417
01:05:23,800 --> 01:05:25,080
Speaker 3: things I'm wondering about it happened.

1418
01:05:25,160 --> 01:05:29,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, the procession back to the parking lot at Portfield. Also,

1419
01:05:29,440 --> 01:05:33,000
Speaker 1: I saw one shot of eminem who is at the

1420
01:05:33,040 --> 01:05:36,680
Speaker 1: game in San Francisco, doing a double bird do, like

1421
01:05:36,760 --> 01:05:38,920
Speaker 1: a bunch of fans in the suite and the level

1422
01:05:38,960 --> 01:05:42,920
Speaker 1: below him, Like, what is what is Eminem's like exit

1423
01:05:43,000 --> 01:05:44,600
Speaker 1: route out of Levi's stadium?

1424
01:05:44,640 --> 01:05:45,360
Speaker 2: Does he state it?

1425
01:05:45,880 --> 01:05:48,240
Speaker 1: Does he pull a Mark Wahlberg and leave in the

1426
01:05:48,240 --> 01:05:50,400
Speaker 1: third quarter of twenty eight three to get it to

1427
01:05:50,640 --> 01:05:54,960
Speaker 1: beat the crowd? Is Marshall Mather is currently brawling with

1428
01:05:55,400 --> 01:05:58,760
Speaker 1: multiple with the opposition, I don't know, No.

1429
01:05:58,840 --> 01:06:01,360
Speaker 3: I'd say that you get like a couple of your

1430
01:06:01,360 --> 01:06:03,800
Speaker 3: friends to like wrap you in blankets and take you

1431
01:06:03,840 --> 01:06:05,240
Speaker 3: out like a dead body and no face.

1432
01:06:05,320 --> 01:06:07,520
Speaker 6: That's got to have some security, that's true.

1433
01:06:07,600 --> 01:06:11,720
Speaker 1: We saw that they're actually footage of Taylor Swift being

1434
01:06:11,800 --> 01:06:16,120
Speaker 1: snuck from backstage to the stage before one of our

1435
01:06:16,120 --> 01:06:20,280
Speaker 1: concerts in like a cleaning person's cart. Yeah, and that

1436
01:06:20,440 --> 01:06:22,400
Speaker 1: was the way to maybe do that with Marshall Mantis.

1437
01:06:22,400 --> 01:06:25,200
Speaker 1: This is definitely the playoffs and the season in general

1438
01:06:25,200 --> 01:06:29,080
Speaker 1: where we've got like minor and major celebrities crawling out

1439
01:06:28,920 --> 01:06:32,480
Speaker 1: of the suites into the crowd itself or in the crowd, yeah,

1440
01:06:32,520 --> 01:06:33,280
Speaker 1: recognizing them.

1441
01:06:33,280 --> 01:06:34,480
Speaker 6: You know, he was sitting in the crowd.

1442
01:06:34,520 --> 01:06:38,200
Speaker 5: And I don't think forty nine ers fans would even

1443
01:06:39,040 --> 01:06:41,840
Speaker 5: look a scans at you or us having that view.

1444
01:06:42,160 --> 01:06:43,920
Speaker 6: They're different, The lions are different.

1445
01:06:44,040 --> 01:06:45,880
Speaker 1: There's been I don't know about that, Greg, I think

1446
01:06:46,840 --> 01:06:48,800
Speaker 1: I didn't know we're even talking about this right now.

1447
01:06:49,200 --> 01:06:51,880
Speaker 6: Well, they can eat it. There were twenty four teams.

1448
01:06:52,440 --> 01:06:54,720
Speaker 6: That's why it's the bad boy of NFL media. There

1449
01:06:54,720 --> 01:06:55,880
Speaker 6: are twenty four teams.

1450
01:06:55,880 --> 01:06:56,920
Speaker 2: Give them a guitar, squeals.

1451
01:06:57,040 --> 01:06:58,200
Speaker 6: It's like wine and cheese.

1452
01:06:58,200 --> 01:07:00,520
Speaker 5: I'm just saying there were twenty four teams that were

1453
01:07:00,520 --> 01:07:03,480
Speaker 5: in the NFL when the NFL truly started the merger.

1454
01:07:03,960 --> 01:07:07,080
Speaker 5: There's one of those twenty four teams they have not

1455
01:07:07,160 --> 01:07:08,120
Speaker 5: been to the Super Bowl.

1456
01:07:08,400 --> 01:07:09,640
Speaker 6: That is the Detroit Lions.

1457
01:07:09,760 --> 01:07:12,160
Speaker 5: And you're comparing and there's another team on the other side,

1458
01:07:12,160 --> 01:07:13,720
Speaker 5: and I know it's been a minute, Who've won five

1459
01:07:13,760 --> 01:07:16,400
Speaker 5: Super Bowls. So yes, the average fan is going to

1460
01:07:16,520 --> 01:07:19,320
Speaker 5: root for that fan base who has been through more

1461
01:07:20,280 --> 01:07:23,600
Speaker 5: heartache than anyone who's never even really had a chance,

1462
01:07:23,600 --> 01:07:24,560
Speaker 5: and that this was their chance.

1463
01:07:24,600 --> 01:07:25,720
Speaker 6: Of course, the average fan is going.

1464
01:07:25,680 --> 01:07:27,000
Speaker 2: To be r it was new.

1465
01:07:27,200 --> 01:07:28,440
Speaker 4: That's we talked yet a little.

1466
01:07:28,280 --> 01:07:30,760
Speaker 6: Less soonus in terms of uniqueness.

1467
01:07:30,800 --> 01:07:32,520
Speaker 1: But at the end of the day, we are not

1468
01:07:32,600 --> 01:07:36,440
Speaker 1: complaining because Chiefs v. Niners is going to be a

1469
01:07:36,440 --> 01:07:41,400
Speaker 1: hell of a game. Andy Reid versus Kyle Shanahan. That

1470
01:07:41,560 --> 01:07:44,000
Speaker 1: is gorgeous. It's happened before, and it was a great

1471
01:07:44,120 --> 01:07:47,160
Speaker 1: game last time. And I have a feeling, just like

1472
01:07:47,200 --> 01:07:50,600
Speaker 1: the desert is feeling right now, that is going to

1473
01:07:50,680 --> 01:07:51,640
Speaker 1: go down to the wire again.

1474
01:07:51,720 --> 01:07:52,720
Speaker 2: So that is the game.

1475
01:07:52,960 --> 01:07:56,000
Speaker 1: Next time you hear us doing a recap, well, Mark's

1476
01:07:56,040 --> 01:07:58,320
Speaker 1: going to be We're sending Mark to Orlando correct to

1477
01:07:58,600 --> 01:07:59,920
Speaker 1: cover all Oh yeah, bowl game?

1478
01:08:00,080 --> 01:08:00,600
Speaker 6: What am I doing?

1479
01:08:01,360 --> 01:08:05,240
Speaker 2: Just dodgeball the triple jump tag.

1480
01:08:06,080 --> 01:08:09,440
Speaker 6: Defend his Pro Bowl Flag Football MVP. He had that

1481
01:08:09,520 --> 01:08:10,640
Speaker 6: big drive to finish.

1482
01:08:10,640 --> 01:08:14,160
Speaker 3: I think there's I had officially do not have time

1483
01:08:14,160 --> 01:08:14,360
Speaker 3: for that.

1484
01:08:15,760 --> 01:08:18,360
Speaker 1: No, Mark Marcus coming to Vegas with us, and we're

1485
01:08:18,360 --> 01:08:19,880
Speaker 1: going to cover all the games. We still, of course,

1486
01:08:19,920 --> 01:08:23,400
Speaker 1: have two weeks of shows before that, so make sure

1487
01:08:23,439 --> 01:08:26,160
Speaker 1: you're there, uh and tuning in anything else?

1488
01:08:26,360 --> 01:08:28,719
Speaker 6: Yeah, we'll be back to Tuesday. Who's they music's playing?

1489
01:08:28,720 --> 01:08:28,760
Speaker 8: That?

1490
01:08:28,920 --> 01:08:29,599
Speaker 6: Guess nothing else.

1491
01:08:31,080 --> 01:08:34,240
Speaker 1: Thank you everybody who've been listening to every Sunday all season.

1492
01:08:34,840 --> 01:08:37,840
Speaker 2: One game left, Heed the call.