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Speaker 1: the evening Oho Shakur Stevenson will be joining us just

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Speaker 1: a bit, but first we got to talk about your team.

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Speaker 1: The Bengals point the finger at Shamir Shamar Stewart's Jamar

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Speaker 1: Stewart's agent over the contract drama first. Bengals Director of

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Speaker 1: Player Personnel Duke Tobin pointed the finger at Stuart's representation.

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Speaker 1: He needs to be here. I would encourage him to

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Speaker 1: be here. He's listening to advice, he's paying from it

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Speaker 1: for his agent. I don't understand the advice. We're treating

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Speaker 1: him fairly. No you're not. No, you're not. Nobody else

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Speaker 1: put that language in the contract that if you have

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Speaker 1: a conduct detrimental, all future guaranteed could be voided. You

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Speaker 1: do realize, if I'm not mistaken, I think the way

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Speaker 1: they do it now, Oh Joe to guarantee first round

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Speaker 1: of the money is guaranteed. So in other words, he

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Speaker 1: has a slip up this year, next year, the year after,

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Speaker 1: and the year after money could potentially be voided. Are

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Speaker 1: they out of their mind? That is the reason why

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Speaker 1: you have an agent, is that you're supposed to take

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Speaker 1: advice from the agent, right if you didn't, because see

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Speaker 1: they want to take advantage. Oh we are we treating

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Speaker 1: him fairly. No you're not. No, you're not. Nobody else

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Speaker 1: does this. Y'all trying to be slick and they know

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Speaker 1: you start the dangerous. You got to be careful with

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Speaker 1: President oyo precedent, because now they're gonna try everybody. You

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Speaker 1: start doing that, everybody gonna try to start to slip

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Speaker 1: that in there. Nah, You're not finna do that if

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Speaker 1: you want to punish me for something I did this year,

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Speaker 1: by all means, but to take all the future guaranteed

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Speaker 1: when the contract more more time than not, it's guaranteed.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely not Oo.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I totally understand what you're saying. Obviously, I don't

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Speaker 2: like the hypothetical that was used in the situation, being

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Speaker 2: that if you're in prison and Mike Brown saying, if

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Speaker 2: just so happened he goes to prison, I shouldn't have

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Speaker 2: to pay him for that matter. I think it should

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Speaker 2: be a year to year thing. I think the agent

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Speaker 2: should have come to that conclusion a very long time ago,

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Speaker 2: based on yearly year one. If something happens that detrimental

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Speaker 2: conduct detrimental to the team, then money for that specific

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Speaker 2: that the owners can protect themselves and not having to play.

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Speaker 2: But what's fair is fair, and what I think what

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Speaker 2: they're trying to do is not fair. They're trying to

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Speaker 2: set a precedent a certain president that if Shamar Stewart

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Speaker 2: the first one, then everyone else it's a copycat league.

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Speaker 2: If one team does it and a Shamar Stewart and

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Speaker 2: his agent allow it to happen, then it would be

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Speaker 2: a trickle effect and everyone else will start implementing that

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Speaker 1: Then owner Mike Brown said, it's not about money, it's

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Speaker 1: about guarantee. In this case of if he were to

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Speaker 1: I don't think that's going to ever happen. That's what's

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Speaker 1: holding it up. It's never happened as long as I

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Speaker 1: can remember. His agent wants it to be. If he

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Speaker 1: acted in a terrible fashion. This is all hypothetical. Something

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Speaker 1: that rides to the level of him going to prison,

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Speaker 1: we'd be on the line for the guarantee. Yeah, that's

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Speaker 1: how it works. Yeah. But but o Joe, But guess

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Speaker 1: what they want to be in a situation if we

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Speaker 1: cut you, even if I got guaranteed money, I cut you,

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Speaker 1: I ain't got to pay you. That's what guaranteed me.

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Speaker 1: Come am, I the only one that understands what the

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Speaker 1: word guaranteed me? No choken. Yeah, that's how it works.

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Speaker 1: You don't you don't get you don't get to determine

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Speaker 1: right that Well you did something year one, Now we're

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Speaker 1: gonna punish you year two, year three, year four. Bro.

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Speaker 1: That don't work like that. Yeah, I mean, it's a

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Speaker 1: if it goes oh Joe, if it goes to arbitration,

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Speaker 1: you know, say that, and that's what we have. We

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Speaker 1: have an independent arbiter and they hear both sides and

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Speaker 1: if they say okay, okay, I can live with that.

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Speaker 1: But for you to me to just give you that

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Speaker 1: in hell would I ever do that. And he said,

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Speaker 1: it's not about the money. It is about the money.

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Speaker 1: Guarantee is about guaranteed money.

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Speaker 3: Definitely about the money. But listen, excuse me. Shamar Stewart

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Speaker 3: and his representation are in a tough spot.

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Speaker 2: The Bengals, the Browns and Mike Brown, Katie and Duke Tobin,

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Speaker 2: they're also in a tough spot.

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Speaker 3: I would love for the matter of resolved. Training camp

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Speaker 3: has already started, yes, rookies have already reported.

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Speaker 2: So he's actually missing time, valuable time where I think

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Speaker 2: he can come in and make a difference based on

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Speaker 2: what I've seen on film. You know, with college tape,

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Speaker 2: he can come in and make a difference. So our

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Speaker 2: defense was very bad last year. Yes, we need all

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Speaker 2: hands on deck, correct, We need all hands on deck

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Speaker 2: based on how we as a team in our organization

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Speaker 2: start every goddamn season in a whole having to dig

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Speaker 2: ourselves and dig our way out of it. The point

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Speaker 2: of having the draft is the draft people and draft

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Speaker 2: players that we think we can benefit from and help

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Speaker 2: our team. And this situation right here is not helping

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Speaker 2: us in any way, shape, form of fashion to reach

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Speaker 2: the end goal.

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Speaker 3: We all have the same end goal we're trying to

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Speaker 3: get to. Lombardy.

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Speaker 2: Were trying to be in San France, fucking Cisco come

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Speaker 2: February week one, and this is not the type of

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Speaker 2: business and going about doing so. I hope they get

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Speaker 2: the matter resolved. I'm sick of talking about it, you know.

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Speaker 2: I'm sorry for being a little frustrated. I'm a little

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Speaker 2: passionate about my team a little bit, you know, And listen,

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Speaker 2: Shamar Stewart has to do it right.

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Speaker 3: His representation is doing exactly what they should do. This

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Speaker 3: is business.

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Speaker 2: This is the ugly side of business. I know, we

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Speaker 2: don't want to go out there and play football. I

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Speaker 2: got drafted. I finally achieved and reached my childhood dream

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Speaker 2: of getting drafted to an NFL team.

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Speaker 3: It just so happened.

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Speaker 2: Now the business gets in the way, the ugly side

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Speaker 3: Man, I hope, I hope it's resultd.

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Speaker 1: But but you noticed how the Bengals, Now why not?

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Speaker 1: Why didn't the thirty other one of the teams did

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Speaker 1: the hypotheticals. You noticed how hypotheticals only happened to the Bengals.

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Speaker 1: If he were to go to prison or something, I

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Speaker 1: don't think that's going to happen. Just like they said,

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Speaker 1: oh this like he might best behave running fire with

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Speaker 1: if you don't think that's gonna happen, why you're putting

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Speaker 1: language in there?

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Speaker 3: I have I have a question.

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Speaker 2: Go ahead and excuse you for my lack of ignorance

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Speaker 2: and lack of knowledge on his past history. Does he

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Speaker 2: have character issues or stuff that happened previously in the

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Speaker 2: past that but that I don't know about, because that

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Speaker 2: that to me, that would be the only reason this

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Speaker 1: I thought you came in with a clean slate. That's

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Speaker 1: what they told us. Now I noticed. Now you I

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Speaker 1: don't know if you remember this. You remember when they

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Speaker 1: Torail prior to Reil Prior sold some of his game

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Speaker 1: war and stuff, the stuff that he got for winning

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Speaker 1: the Big Kinship Ohio State. He sold to Jersey. Now

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Speaker 1: this happened in college, and when he got to the league,

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Speaker 1: the league suspended him for five games. I was outraised.

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Speaker 1: I said, how in the hell, since when can you

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Speaker 1: punish me for something? Oh, Joe, let's just say, for

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Speaker 1: the sake of argument, I'm a college kid and I

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Speaker 1: A do an unbelievable job. I graduate with honors. I

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Speaker 1: get this job, and the job tells me, well, we're

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Speaker 1: a DUI that didn't have nothing to do. When that

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Speaker 1: I wasn't even on the job, right right, right, whatever,

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Speaker 1: Chamar's Chamar. Whatever he did or didn't do, he didn't

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Speaker 1: do it on the Bengals clock. How do you get

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Speaker 1: to punish somebody for something they didn't do when they

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Speaker 3: But also, this is their entity, this is their business.

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Speaker 2: So when it comes to business, something that you do

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Speaker 2: know is businesses they do everything they can, especially contractually,

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Speaker 2: to be able to protect themselves just in case what

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Speaker 3: Then, in case your past creeps in while you work

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Speaker 3: for us.

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Speaker 1: They have they do this in their contract. Is this

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Speaker 1: in jo Joe Burrow's contract? Is this in Chase his contract?

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Speaker 1: Was this in Anthony Munjos's contract? With this in Boomer

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Speaker 1: Science's contract? Because this is the same ownership that's owned that.

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Speaker 1: So I need to know now, if this is what

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Speaker 1: they've always done, I don't have a problem with it.

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Speaker 1: I might not like it, but if this is something new,

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Speaker 1: I'm not going to be your test dummy. I'm not

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Speaker 1: going to be your guinea pig to start this president.

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Speaker 1: You can start it next year, but I will not

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Speaker 3: Oh hey, that's a good one. Hey, it's a tough spot.

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Speaker 2: Hey, I know fans of piss, fans of piss hell,

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Speaker 2: you can you can tell the way I'm talking like

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Speaker 2: I'm sick of talking about it because I want to

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Speaker 2: see young Bull in camp.

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Speaker 3: Be Joe Flacco. That's neither here nor there. The person

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Speaker 1: Hope that's right, because all I need is want one

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Speaker 3: That's it, is it, that's it, And.

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Speaker 3: Make the most of it.

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Speaker 1: That's it.

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Speaker 3: I don't I don't even think it. I don't even think.

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Speaker 2: It's not even hard, it's not even hard. I hate,

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Speaker 2: I hate going back. But this was just a lesson

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Speaker 2: and should have been, should have been now for for

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Speaker 2: I know how the outcome is going to be based

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Speaker 3: When he touches the field. He's been a winner all

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Speaker 2: And that same attitude and discipline and the way of

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Speaker 3: It's gonna carry over.

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Speaker 3: It's just another one. He's going to overcome. And I'm

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Speaker 2: Hell, I'm happy for Browns fans because finally, what you've

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Speaker 1: They don't need to prolong it anymore. They need to

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Speaker 1: you look at what Baker had it at Oklahoma.

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Speaker 3: Hold on, do you forget to receive us Baker had

438
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Speaker 3: in Cleveland? You don't remember home?

439
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Speaker 1: Oh we have.

440
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Speaker 2: Odell if I'm not mistaken, right, Yes, Jarvis Landry, if

441
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Speaker 2: I'm not mistaken, yep. And was it Donovan Puken Jones

442
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Speaker 2: or my tripping and my off chat chat remind me,

443
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Speaker 2: remind me of But yeah, but that a that's something to.

444
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Speaker 1: Work with now. But think about it, o Yo. Odell

445
00:22:46,240 --> 00:22:48,720
Speaker 1: came out a broken leg. Oh they have a torn

446
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Speaker 1: a cl We know Odell was not the same player

447
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Speaker 1: that he was in New York.

448
00:22:53,880 --> 00:22:55,040
Speaker 3: No, he hadn't got hurt yet.

449
00:22:55,320 --> 00:22:57,200
Speaker 1: He had broken his leg in the Giants.

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Speaker 3: He did, he did, Okay, okay, okay, thank you for

451
00:23:02,720 --> 00:23:03,480
Speaker 3: getting me right. Okay.

452
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Speaker 1: Jarvis was a slot receiver, had great hands, durable, but

453
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Speaker 1: that's not that's not Mike Everys and Chris Godwin.

454
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Speaker 2: Yoh yeah, yeah, Mike Evans, Mike Mike Evans in his

455
00:23:14,720 --> 00:23:16,360
Speaker 2: own in his own yeah yeah yeah.

456
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Speaker 1: Now Godwin has gotten hurt a lot over the last

457
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Speaker 1: several years. But the one thing you can, hey, you

458
00:23:22,560 --> 00:23:24,719
Speaker 1: can sit your clock by Mike Evans is gonna get

459
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Speaker 1: a thousand yards receiving.

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Speaker 3: Mm hmm.

461
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Speaker 1: Mike Gas is gonna get a thousand yards receiving. Yeah,

462
00:23:30,080 --> 00:23:32,760
Speaker 1: he went somewhere. Carolina was not a good fit for him.

463
00:23:34,560 --> 00:23:36,960
Speaker 1: The Rams. We know he wasn't gonna stick there. Uh uh,

464
00:23:37,880 --> 00:23:40,359
Speaker 1: Stafford had gotten hurt. Stafford was their guy. He was

465
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Speaker 1: never gonna beat Stafford out. But he goes to Tampa,

466
00:23:43,080 --> 00:23:45,440
Speaker 1: plays on a one year deal in Boom. The rest

467
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Speaker 1: is as they say, it's history. He just found a

468
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Speaker 1: home because of Oklahoma. Look at the receiver they had

469
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Speaker 1: ceed Lamb. Who else was the who else was the

470
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Speaker 1: other receiver? I think Joe Mixon was his running back.

471
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Speaker 1: So he's used to being around talent, talent, talent, talent.

472
00:24:01,520 --> 00:24:03,920
Speaker 1: Now they give him that, so now he can shine,

473
00:24:03,960 --> 00:24:08,719
Speaker 1: he can flourish. We're gonna find out. They're in a very,

474
00:24:08,800 --> 00:24:12,600
Speaker 1: very tough division. The Steelers got better, The Ravens got better.

475
00:24:14,119 --> 00:24:16,720
Speaker 1: The Bengals believe they've gotten better. They've resigned their two

476
00:24:16,760 --> 00:24:21,080
Speaker 1: offensive weapons. Joe Burrow has another year in that system.

477
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Speaker 1: The question is can they hold up defensively because they

478
00:24:25,520 --> 00:24:28,879
Speaker 1: put when ojo, it puts a lot of pressure on

479
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Speaker 1: your offense to have to be perfect, to have to

480
00:24:32,359 --> 00:24:36,080
Speaker 1: I mean they have to be perfect. Joe Burrow can

481
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Speaker 1: turn them ball over one time and sometimes that's enough

482
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Speaker 1: to cause them to lose one turnover. It's hard to

483
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Speaker 1: play perfect, but that's what the Bengals have to be

484
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Speaker 1: because their defense they score thirty eight, they give up

485
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Speaker 1: forty one. They scored thirty five, they give up thirty eight,

486
00:24:51,359 --> 00:24:55,240
Speaker 1: they score thirty one, they give up thirty four. Yeah,

487
00:24:56,359 --> 00:24:59,720
Speaker 1: and Joe just has to like, damn, who can't turn

488
00:24:59,760 --> 00:25:02,560
Speaker 1: it on today? Cause our defense ain't stopping no one.

489
00:25:03,840 --> 00:25:08,360
Speaker 1: It's hard to play like that. It really is, all right, o, Joe.

490
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Speaker 1: This is the subject that you.

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Speaker 4: Oh.

492
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Speaker 1: Also, there's something mainstream media hasn't reported much on. In

493
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Speaker 1: the wake up June twenty third gas explosion that sparked

494
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Speaker 1: the fire at ravashed several units in the Rainbow Terrace

495
00:25:22,920 --> 00:25:26,360
Speaker 1: section of Garden Valley Apartments, Shador gave back to the community.

496
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Speaker 1: Over the course of four hours last Wednesday evening, nearly

497
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Speaker 1: one thousand residents of the Garden Valley Apartments gathered for

498
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Speaker 1: a family friendly, charitable event sponsored by Shadur. The festivities

499
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Speaker 1: featured and eleven year old DJ Lin dancing, free haircuts,

500
00:25:42,359 --> 00:25:46,439
Speaker 1: food truck, grill, food, and complimentary T shirts. In addition

501
00:25:46,560 --> 00:25:49,320
Speaker 1: to never turning down on selfie requests, should door joined

502
00:25:49,400 --> 00:25:52,359
Speaker 1: residents and corn hold and makes your football game and

503
00:25:52,520 --> 00:25:55,639
Speaker 1: even blowing bubble with children props to your door for

504
00:25:55,880 --> 00:25:59,640
Speaker 1: hitting the ground running when it comes to ingratiating himself

505
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Speaker 1: into the Cleveland community.

506
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Speaker 3: I love it. I love it.

507
00:26:05,640 --> 00:26:07,639
Speaker 1: I love it. I love it.

508
00:26:07,720 --> 00:26:08,960
Speaker 3: What's the one thing you get?

509
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Speaker 1: You get?

510
00:26:11,080 --> 00:26:15,200
Speaker 3: Remember the movie Gladiator, I do remember what he told

511
00:26:15,280 --> 00:26:19,720
Speaker 3: Maximus when the crowd you when you're what mm hmm

512
00:26:20,200 --> 00:26:25,720
Speaker 3: your freedom? Yep, win the crowd and the rest will

513
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Speaker 3: take care of itself.

514
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Speaker 2: He's doing exactly Listen, He's doing exactly what you're supposed

515
00:26:31,560 --> 00:26:34,920
Speaker 2: to do in bed and bed yourself in the community.

516
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Speaker 3: Let them see as a quarterback.

517
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Speaker 1: I'm here.

518
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Speaker 3: I'm here.

519
00:26:44,400 --> 00:26:44,920
Speaker 1: I don't think.

520
00:26:45,040 --> 00:26:48,000
Speaker 2: I don't think things went the way they should have gone,

521
00:26:48,480 --> 00:26:52,560
Speaker 2: but I'm here. That's that's gonna take him far with

522
00:26:52,720 --> 00:26:55,880
Speaker 2: those on the outside of the stadium far.

523
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Speaker 3: That means a lot.

524
00:27:00,000 --> 00:27:02,520
Speaker 2: When's the last time you've seen a Cleveland Brown quarterback

525
00:27:02,600 --> 00:27:03,080
Speaker 2: do something like that?

526
00:27:03,400 --> 00:27:05,200
Speaker 3: All of them done stuff in the community. I'm sure

527
00:27:05,560 --> 00:27:07,680
Speaker 3: they all do. Every team, every team has players that done.

528
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Speaker 3: I mean to that magnitude.

529
00:27:09,760 --> 00:27:15,639
Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's the first round pick, high draft choice,

530
00:27:15,800 --> 00:27:18,960
Speaker 1: not seventh round picks. It definitely not this time of

531
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Speaker 1: the year. Now, maybe once the season starts, I've made

532
00:27:21,359 --> 00:27:23,960
Speaker 1: the team. I do things in the community, a blood drive,

533
00:27:24,080 --> 00:27:26,720
Speaker 1: a food bank close to the whatever the case may be,

534
00:27:26,840 --> 00:27:31,040
Speaker 1: Christmas gift turkeys for Thanksgiving, hams, whatever the case may be.

535
00:27:31,119 --> 00:27:33,240
Speaker 1: O Joe, Yeah, I get that. I've seen it, but

536
00:27:33,400 --> 00:27:37,120
Speaker 1: not like this. Yeah, but this is who he is. Yeah,

537
00:27:38,480 --> 00:27:42,600
Speaker 1: this is who he is. So kudos to Shador for

538
00:27:42,640 --> 00:27:48,159
Speaker 1: getting out of the community ingratiating himself and hey, good things.

539
00:27:49,160 --> 00:27:51,920
Speaker 1: Jerry Jones shows the opening training camp by taking a

540
00:27:51,960 --> 00:27:54,240
Speaker 1: shot at Michael Parsons. Oh, Joe, let's take a listen

541
00:27:54,280 --> 00:27:55,280
Speaker 1: to what Jerry had to say.

542
00:27:55,880 --> 00:27:58,399
Speaker 5: Just because we signed him doesn't mean we're gonna have him.

543
00:27:58,440 --> 00:28:03,600
Speaker 5: He was hurt six games last year. Seriously, we've signed uh.

544
00:28:03,680 --> 00:28:06,000
Speaker 5: I remember signing a player for the highest paid at

545
00:28:06,040 --> 00:28:08,120
Speaker 5: the position in the league and he got knocked out

546
00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:13,639
Speaker 5: two thirds of the year Dark Prescott. So there's a

547
00:28:13,680 --> 00:28:16,600
Speaker 5: lot of things you can think about when you just

548
00:28:16,680 --> 00:28:19,920
Speaker 5: as the player does when you're thinking about committing and

549
00:28:20,040 --> 00:28:20,880
Speaker 5: guaranteed money.

550
00:28:24,720 --> 00:28:25,879
Speaker 1: He just can't help himself.

551
00:28:26,600 --> 00:28:32,359
Speaker 2: Dallas Cowboys fans, Dallas Cowboy players, this is your head coach.

552
00:28:33,200 --> 00:28:35,320
Speaker 3: This is your excuse me here, come to my head coach.

553
00:28:35,480 --> 00:28:36,240
Speaker 1: He's the head coach.

554
00:28:36,920 --> 00:28:39,200
Speaker 3: Hey, this is the man that he is the head coach. Huh,

555
00:28:39,320 --> 00:28:41,400
Speaker 3: this is the man that wanted the show. This is

556
00:28:41,440 --> 00:28:44,320
Speaker 3: the man. This let you know a short term.

557
00:28:44,280 --> 00:28:47,720
Speaker 2: How they really feel about you, for sure, this is

558
00:28:48,640 --> 00:28:50,680
Speaker 2: doing This is how they really feel about you.

559
00:28:51,120 --> 00:28:52,960
Speaker 3: There's nothing like getting.

560
00:28:55,240 --> 00:28:58,320
Speaker 2: Taking a dig or taking a shot at your two

561
00:28:58,360 --> 00:29:03,720
Speaker 2: star players, your two star players. Oh well, I made

562
00:29:03,800 --> 00:29:06,160
Speaker 2: one of the highest paid but he missed it, mister

563
00:29:06,240 --> 00:29:09,240
Speaker 2: season because of injury. We play football, it's the contacts

564
00:29:09,280 --> 00:29:11,760
Speaker 2: for it. It's a barbaric sport. Sometimes injuries do happen.

565
00:29:13,720 --> 00:29:15,680
Speaker 1: I remember he made his I remember he made another

566
00:29:15,760 --> 00:29:17,920
Speaker 1: quarterback the highest paid, and he never took a shot

567
00:29:17,960 --> 00:29:20,120
Speaker 1: of him and he stayed injured. But that ain't none

568
00:29:20,160 --> 00:29:21,440
Speaker 1: of my business. I don't even know why I brought

569
00:29:21,440 --> 00:29:22,080
Speaker 1: that up. Bout yo.

570
00:29:24,520 --> 00:29:25,800
Speaker 2: This is who you have to go out there and

571
00:29:25,840 --> 00:29:28,360
Speaker 2: play for. This is who you have to go out

572
00:29:28,400 --> 00:29:29,960
Speaker 2: there and play for. I want to know what's to

573
00:29:30,680 --> 00:29:31,800
Speaker 2: your owner thinks about you.

574
00:29:32,200 --> 00:29:36,160
Speaker 1: Yes, but we know that se See. The thing is,

575
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Speaker 1: oh g see. I remember in twenty sixteen when Colin Nipton,

576
00:29:42,520 --> 00:29:46,520
Speaker 1: Oh but Jerry loves his players. Jerry loves people that

577
00:29:46,600 --> 00:29:48,880
Speaker 1: look like you and I that can do something for it.

578
00:29:49,800 --> 00:29:52,480
Speaker 1: Come on, now, don't you fool yourself? Come on now,

579
00:29:52,600 --> 00:29:55,360
Speaker 1: see the mistake that people make? Oh Jerry, No, no, no, no,

580
00:29:55,440 --> 00:29:57,680
Speaker 1: no no no, no no no. Michael Lovey could do

581
00:29:57,800 --> 00:30:00,280
Speaker 1: things for him. Daz Bryants can do things for it.

582
00:30:00,720 --> 00:30:03,520
Speaker 1: Him Smith could do things for it. Charles Haley could

583
00:30:03,520 --> 00:30:06,760
Speaker 1: do things for it. Nate Newton, Larry Allen, I could

584
00:30:06,840 --> 00:30:11,320
Speaker 1: go on and on and on. Stop fooling yourself. Oh,

585
00:30:11,400 --> 00:30:19,360
Speaker 1: out of the kind and so your heart. Okay, okay, I.

586
00:30:19,400 --> 00:30:21,520
Speaker 3: Have a question, and this is for the chat, for

587
00:30:21,600 --> 00:30:22,760
Speaker 3: the for the people in the chat as well.

588
00:30:22,800 --> 00:30:25,800
Speaker 2: If you played for the Cowboys organization, how would you

589
00:30:25,840 --> 00:30:29,040
Speaker 2: feel as a player understanding that's how the man who

590
00:30:29,160 --> 00:30:31,000
Speaker 2: runs the show and writes your checks felt about you.

591
00:30:32,080 --> 00:30:33,520
Speaker 1: I already know how I felt about.

592
00:30:34,840 --> 00:30:37,680
Speaker 3: How does that even give you the motivation even to.

593
00:30:37,680 --> 00:30:38,680
Speaker 1: Go out there and play for that man?

594
00:30:38,960 --> 00:30:41,160
Speaker 3: Play for that man outside of the money.

595
00:30:42,600 --> 00:30:45,840
Speaker 1: That's all I'm doing. See what he has upset? He's

596
00:30:45,920 --> 00:30:49,120
Speaker 1: upset at Dak because Dak has always been posed him.

597
00:30:49,480 --> 00:30:52,680
Speaker 1: Dak has always always been what it was. You're the owner,

598
00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:55,960
Speaker 1: I'm the player. A lot of players get close to Jerry.

599
00:30:56,760 --> 00:31:00,440
Speaker 1: Dak has never allowed that to happen. Todd Friends comes in,

600
00:31:00,800 --> 00:31:04,680
Speaker 1: does the negotiating hard line boom, I'm up out of here.

601
00:31:05,120 --> 00:31:08,160
Speaker 1: That goes about his business. Dak ain't trying to go

602
00:31:08,240 --> 00:31:10,120
Speaker 1: to his house. Dak is not trying to go out

603
00:31:10,160 --> 00:31:12,560
Speaker 1: and hang out with him. Dak is that Dak does

604
00:31:12,640 --> 00:31:17,240
Speaker 1: what he does. Dak now has a family. Boom, strictly business,

605
00:31:17,360 --> 00:31:20,520
Speaker 1: strictly business. You see he taking a shot at Michael

606
00:31:20,720 --> 00:31:26,440
Speaker 1: because Michael wouldn't let him, wouldn't let him glazing. Yeah, na, oh, oh,

607
00:31:27,280 --> 00:31:29,640
Speaker 1: it's between me and the player. You never did a

608
00:31:29,720 --> 00:31:32,200
Speaker 1: deal with just a player when the player had representation.

609
00:31:32,600 --> 00:31:35,440
Speaker 1: But you know what's going to cost you because you

610
00:31:36,160 --> 00:31:39,360
Speaker 1: let Max Crosby get a new deal, You let Miles

611
00:31:39,440 --> 00:31:42,480
Speaker 1: Garrett get a new deal, You let TJ. Watt get

612
00:31:42,520 --> 00:31:46,280
Speaker 1: a big new deal. And guess what. Michael Parsons is

613
00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:49,200
Speaker 1: three to four years younger and all of them, yes,

614
00:31:49,280 --> 00:31:53,040
Speaker 1: so guess what he's about to do pole vault. So

615
00:31:53,160 --> 00:31:56,160
Speaker 1: whatever TJ. Watt got, Michael Parson's gonna get a million

616
00:31:56,200 --> 00:31:58,800
Speaker 1: to two million dollars more. And don't give me that junk.

617
00:31:58,840 --> 00:32:01,160
Speaker 1: I play in Texas, Oh I know it ain't no

618
00:32:01,200 --> 00:32:03,800
Speaker 1: state income tax and I'm glad for that. So that's

619
00:32:03,840 --> 00:32:06,760
Speaker 1: forty two forty three million, Uncle Sam, I'm going to

620
00:32:06,800 --> 00:32:11,320
Speaker 1: go get thirty six percent of it those state taxes, right.

621
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Speaker 3: And I'm understanding obviously.

622
00:32:13,600 --> 00:32:17,080
Speaker 2: I wanted to text my Michael, I wanted to call him,

623
00:32:17,120 --> 00:32:18,600
Speaker 2: but I was like, you know what, I'm not even

624
00:32:18,600 --> 00:32:19,200
Speaker 2: gonna bother them.

625
00:32:19,840 --> 00:32:22,400
Speaker 3: Just sad. How you feel? How does that make you feel?

626
00:32:22,480 --> 00:32:24,000
Speaker 3: And I'm just thinking about.

627
00:32:23,960 --> 00:32:26,280
Speaker 1: Like, crap that this is my owner thing. My owner

628
00:32:26,320 --> 00:32:28,800
Speaker 1: thinks about me. Now, what about the time that, oh,

629
00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:30,960
Speaker 1: he missed some games, But I guarantee you there's some

630
00:32:31,040 --> 00:32:33,840
Speaker 1: games that he should have missed more, because I know

631
00:32:33,960 --> 00:32:36,680
Speaker 1: Michael had some issues going on. But that ain't none

632
00:32:36,720 --> 00:32:37,920
Speaker 1: of my business. I don't even know why I brought

633
00:32:37,960 --> 00:32:39,920
Speaker 1: that up again, Damn, I keep telling people business.

634
00:32:40,720 --> 00:32:43,120
Speaker 2: You know how many times all of us have played

635
00:32:43,120 --> 00:32:45,959
Speaker 2: the game of football and went out there anyway when

636
00:32:45,960 --> 00:32:49,320
Speaker 2: we were hurt. Yeah, had to take toward all pills,

637
00:32:49,600 --> 00:32:51,800
Speaker 2: had to take, had to take the toward all shot

638
00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:54,400
Speaker 2: and play for the same Yeah.

639
00:32:55,720 --> 00:32:59,000
Speaker 1: Marcaine, Yeah, Cortzon, Yes, all that shooting up in your

640
00:32:59,040 --> 00:33:01,240
Speaker 1: shoulders and then your knee not why you shoot my

641
00:33:01,280 --> 00:33:03,360
Speaker 1: knees up? I shot my ankles, up, shot my shoulders

642
00:33:03,440 --> 00:33:06,560
Speaker 1: up ribs did all that? O? Yo, did all that?

643
00:33:07,480 --> 00:33:07,960
Speaker 4: How do we not?

644
00:33:08,240 --> 00:33:11,040
Speaker 2: How do we not understand and just have any self awareness?

645
00:33:11,080 --> 00:33:13,840
Speaker 2: Where that's the kind of stuff that you say to yourself.

646
00:33:13,920 --> 00:33:16,840
Speaker 2: What you never say out loud about the players that

647
00:33:16,880 --> 00:33:19,440
Speaker 2: are on your team. You don't say stuff like that

648
00:33:19,600 --> 00:33:20,200
Speaker 2: out loud.

649
00:33:21,640 --> 00:33:23,720
Speaker 1: Had the nerves dead and in my ankles, so I

650
00:33:23,760 --> 00:33:27,240
Speaker 1: couldn't feel no pain the whole. That's what nerves do.

651
00:33:27,640 --> 00:33:29,440
Speaker 1: They allow you to feel pain and says okay, hey,

652
00:33:29,480 --> 00:33:32,120
Speaker 1: bro back off that I had my nerves. Don had

653
00:33:32,200 --> 00:33:35,120
Speaker 1: my nerves and my ankles deadn't so I couldn't feel

654
00:33:35,160 --> 00:33:38,320
Speaker 1: pain so I could go out there and play. And

655
00:33:38,440 --> 00:33:41,200
Speaker 1: then to have somebody talk like that, man, please, I'd

656
00:33:41,200 --> 00:33:44,800
Speaker 1: have lost it. I'd have lost it.

657
00:33:45,640 --> 00:33:45,760
Speaker 5: Hey.

658
00:33:46,320 --> 00:33:48,840
Speaker 2: You know what's funny is when you think about the owners.

659
00:33:49,240 --> 00:33:51,840
Speaker 2: Obviously it's thirty two owners. I think Jerry is the

660
00:33:51,920 --> 00:33:52,880
Speaker 2: only one with.

661
00:33:53,400 --> 00:33:55,440
Speaker 3: The cohorn is to come out and say how he

662
00:33:55,520 --> 00:33:58,560
Speaker 3: really feels. No one else will do that. W you

663
00:33:58,600 --> 00:34:00,000
Speaker 3: saw today. Nobody else will do it.

664
00:34:00,400 --> 00:34:02,960
Speaker 1: No, why wouldn't but Jered Jerry. But see, that's what

665
00:34:03,120 --> 00:34:06,160
Speaker 1: Jerry wanted to be about him see, Jered don't want

666
00:34:06,240 --> 00:34:08,680
Speaker 1: no superstar because you know why he want a superstar

667
00:34:08,920 --> 00:34:12,359
Speaker 1: because he would never take a Tom Brady. He would

668
00:34:12,400 --> 00:34:15,440
Speaker 1: never He couldn't play for tat Manny because they'd be

669
00:34:15,440 --> 00:34:18,040
Speaker 1: bigger than his and he don't want that to happen. Right,

670
00:34:20,920 --> 00:34:23,960
Speaker 1: I've been very fortunate. I played for two owners. Mister Bowland.

671
00:34:24,040 --> 00:34:28,279
Speaker 1: I did something for his family today, Yes, sir, but

672
00:34:28,400 --> 00:34:33,399
Speaker 1: oh Joe, it was about us. We were the superstars, right.

673
00:34:33,640 --> 00:34:35,200
Speaker 1: He can tell me all the time, Sharper, I ain't

674
00:34:35,200 --> 00:34:37,520
Speaker 1: catching no passes, Sharper, I ain't make no tackles. Why

675
00:34:37,560 --> 00:34:39,360
Speaker 1: the hell I need to be up there and talking

676
00:34:39,680 --> 00:34:42,920
Speaker 1: and carrying on. That's what I play you guys for.

677
00:34:43,960 --> 00:34:47,160
Speaker 1: I said, you play us quite well. I don't. I

678
00:34:47,239 --> 00:34:51,640
Speaker 1: don't get why Jerry felt to open up training camp

679
00:34:52,280 --> 00:34:59,040
Speaker 1: like this. I don't know. Everything that comes up doesn't

680
00:34:59,080 --> 00:35:00,040
Speaker 1: need to come out.

681
00:35:00,640 --> 00:35:04,759
Speaker 2: Right, But what you're thinking doesn't need to be said.

682
00:35:05,360 --> 00:35:08,280
Speaker 2: Every little thought, especially stuff that you know, is gonna

683
00:35:08,520 --> 00:35:12,879
Speaker 2: ruffle people's feathers, catch media headlines. Hell, the only thing

684
00:35:13,719 --> 00:35:17,360
Speaker 2: that should be catching headlines today is Cowboys open up

685
00:35:17,400 --> 00:35:20,000
Speaker 2: training camp and George Picking looks motherfucking good.

686
00:35:20,280 --> 00:35:24,200
Speaker 3: Excuse my language. Sorry, George Pickings look good, day one.

687
00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:25,320
Speaker 3: That's it.

688
00:35:26,680 --> 00:35:29,400
Speaker 2: That's what that should be the conversation, not what you

689
00:35:29,440 --> 00:35:32,680
Speaker 2: said about back, what you said about Michael Man.

690
00:35:32,920 --> 00:35:37,360
Speaker 1: Come on man, JJ Watt took to Twitter excuse me

691
00:35:37,680 --> 00:35:40,520
Speaker 1: x to defend him. Anytime you can publicly take a dig,

692
00:35:40,600 --> 00:35:43,640
Speaker 1: get your star quarterback and your young star pass Russell

693
00:35:43,719 --> 00:35:47,800
Speaker 1: simultaneously right before the season begins, you gotta just take it.

694
00:35:48,120 --> 00:35:51,000
Speaker 1: Nothing makes guys want to fight for you more than

695
00:35:51,080 --> 00:35:53,959
Speaker 1: hearing how upset you are that they got hurt while

696
00:35:54,000 --> 00:36:01,040
Speaker 1: fighting for you. Michael reposted that no discount for you, Jerry.

697
00:36:02,719 --> 00:36:04,680
Speaker 3: Wait, hold on, hold on? What if what if you think,

698
00:36:05,120 --> 00:36:07,799
Speaker 3: excuse me? What if it even goes worse? What if

699
00:36:07,840 --> 00:36:10,239
Speaker 3: Michael says, you know that that's how you feel about me?

700
00:36:11,239 --> 00:36:11,600
Speaker 1: Trade me?

701
00:36:11,920 --> 00:36:12,680
Speaker 3: Why don't you trade me?

702
00:36:13,239 --> 00:36:18,600
Speaker 1: Yeah? Then what then?

703
00:36:18,880 --> 00:36:20,160
Speaker 3: And it's the funny thing, is the funny.

704
00:36:20,800 --> 00:36:24,040
Speaker 2: I'm just finding out all about Jerry's ways because I

705
00:36:24,120 --> 00:36:26,280
Speaker 2: never played for the Cowboys, and obviously when I was playing,

706
00:36:26,760 --> 00:36:30,600
Speaker 2: you know, I'm i'm i'm I'm blind to what's going

707
00:36:30,640 --> 00:36:31,160
Speaker 2: on over there.

708
00:36:31,440 --> 00:36:34,520
Speaker 3: But you don't want to introduce me and told me

709
00:36:34,560 --> 00:36:38,040
Speaker 3: about the whole thing with Jimmy Johnson. Yeah, so that

710
00:36:38,239 --> 00:36:39,400
Speaker 3: that raised my eyebrows.

711
00:36:39,440 --> 00:36:41,839
Speaker 2: But I thought, okay, maybe that's just okay, maybe that's

712
00:36:41,880 --> 00:36:43,840
Speaker 2: just a one off. Maybe they just had a disagreement

713
00:36:44,120 --> 00:36:47,239
Speaker 2: and he's not really liked that, but they got into it.

714
00:36:47,320 --> 00:36:50,680
Speaker 1: But he thought after three years, he thought after he

715
00:36:50,840 --> 00:36:54,000
Speaker 1: hired eighty nine with Jimmy's first year, that's the year

716
00:36:54,040 --> 00:36:57,319
Speaker 1: he took over. He brought the I think bum bright.

717
00:36:57,600 --> 00:36:59,400
Speaker 1: I think that's where he brought the Cowboys from. So

718
00:36:59,520 --> 00:37:01,960
Speaker 1: he took with him and him and Jimmy in eighty nine,

719
00:37:02,000 --> 00:37:04,920
Speaker 1: Countroy was their first draft pick. They won the championship

720
00:37:04,960 --> 00:37:07,279
Speaker 1: in four in ninety two, win it again in ninety three,

721
00:37:07,280 --> 00:37:08,719
Speaker 1: and again in ninety five. So in four years, so

722
00:37:08,760 --> 00:37:10,920
Speaker 1: eighty nine, ninety ninety one, ninety two. So in the

723
00:37:10,960 --> 00:37:13,400
Speaker 1: fourth year, he thought he knew more football than Jimmy.

724
00:37:14,040 --> 00:37:16,320
Speaker 1: Now see Jimmy will see what Jimmy could do. Jimmy

725
00:37:16,440 --> 00:37:19,319
Speaker 1: was coming from college at the U. So all these

726
00:37:19,360 --> 00:37:21,960
Speaker 1: guys is coming out. Guess who knew him because he

727
00:37:22,120 --> 00:37:27,719
Speaker 1: tried to recruit him after you. Yeah, see, Jerry thinked

728
00:37:27,760 --> 00:37:30,160
Speaker 1: because somebody handed him a piece of paper that they've

729
00:37:30,200 --> 00:37:32,640
Speaker 1: done all the work for. See Jerry's that guy that

730
00:37:32,840 --> 00:37:35,680
Speaker 1: does no part of the project. But he gets to say, Hey,

731
00:37:36,640 --> 00:37:39,160
Speaker 1: you ain't do nothing. You just happened to own the team.

732
00:37:39,320 --> 00:37:43,960
Speaker 1: You did nothing. Jimmy, the scouts, the evaluators, they did

733
00:37:44,040 --> 00:37:50,400
Speaker 1: all the work. It burned them. It burned them that

734
00:37:50,600 --> 00:37:54,960
Speaker 1: Jimmy got the credit. Everybody gave Jimmy the credit, and

735
00:37:55,120 --> 00:37:56,680
Speaker 1: he wanted Jimmy to toast him.

736
00:38:00,239 --> 00:38:02,120
Speaker 2: And that's that's a tough spot to be in for

737
00:38:02,200 --> 00:38:06,480
Speaker 2: a player. It has to be just to hear that

738
00:38:07,040 --> 00:38:09,200
Speaker 2: from your owner has to be a tough spot to

739
00:38:09,239 --> 00:38:12,440
Speaker 2: be in. You know, he's running it. It's supposed to

740
00:38:12,440 --> 00:38:14,800
Speaker 2: be a football team. It's supposed to be an organization.

741
00:38:15,120 --> 00:38:17,160
Speaker 2: But you're running it like I'm not going to say

742
00:38:17,160 --> 00:38:17,719
Speaker 2: the P word.

743
00:38:18,239 --> 00:38:18,920
Speaker 3: You're running it like.

744
00:38:19,440 --> 00:38:25,480
Speaker 1: The P word. You oh, Joe Jacob, Yes, yes.

745
00:38:25,840 --> 00:38:28,200
Speaker 3: Okay, you see where I'm going? Yeah, yes, okay, you're

746
00:38:28,239 --> 00:38:31,160
Speaker 3: running You're running it like that. You don't say you don't.

747
00:38:31,440 --> 00:38:35,520
Speaker 3: You don't say that about the players that you're paying.

748
00:38:36,520 --> 00:38:37,520
Speaker 3: You don't complain.

749
00:38:37,960 --> 00:38:41,040
Speaker 2: Oh, I made the quarterback the highest state because you

750
00:38:41,200 --> 00:38:45,480
Speaker 2: fucking waited to pay him. You waited till the last minute, and.

751
00:38:45,560 --> 00:38:47,760
Speaker 1: You waited till the last minute. You got Michael Parksons

752
00:38:47,800 --> 00:38:52,520
Speaker 1: on the fifth your option minute, and he said it,

753
00:38:52,920 --> 00:38:54,880
Speaker 1: and I used to say this all the time. I

754
00:38:55,000 --> 00:38:56,719
Speaker 1: am not going to give you. I would give you

755
00:38:56,800 --> 00:38:59,040
Speaker 1: a discount if you signed me with a couple of

756
00:38:59,120 --> 00:39:02,640
Speaker 1: years left, because now you're giving me guaranteed money. I'm

757
00:39:02,680 --> 00:39:04,600
Speaker 1: not giving you a disk account if you make me

758
00:39:04,680 --> 00:39:07,960
Speaker 1: get to the punctuation v end no, bro, I got

759
00:39:08,080 --> 00:39:10,759
Speaker 1: to get maximum dollar out of you, max value. But see,

760
00:39:10,760 --> 00:39:15,200
Speaker 1: here's the thing on Joe. I know who Jerry is,

761
00:39:15,760 --> 00:39:17,319
Speaker 1: and as long as they know who Jerry is, they

762
00:39:17,360 --> 00:39:23,560
Speaker 1: should never have a problem with it. He applauds to

763
00:39:23,600 --> 00:39:28,880
Speaker 1: what you do, not who you are. It's transactional to him.

764
00:39:29,480 --> 00:39:32,120
Speaker 1: You can provide a service, a damn good one. He's

765
00:39:32,120 --> 00:39:34,200
Speaker 1: gonna pat you on the back. But if you think

766
00:39:34,200 --> 00:39:38,480
Speaker 1: it's anything more than that, you're sadly mistaken. Sadly mistaken.

767
00:39:40,280 --> 00:39:44,200
Speaker 3: And man, that's that's I ain't never heard nothing like that.

768
00:39:44,480 --> 00:39:44,600
Speaker 1: Now.

769
00:39:44,640 --> 00:39:46,719
Speaker 2: I know a lot of them think like that one

770
00:39:46,800 --> 00:39:49,040
Speaker 2: thing they're thinking, but they actually say it out loud.

771
00:39:52,440 --> 00:39:57,920
Speaker 1: Bro, Listen, see a lot of times people want to

772
00:39:58,640 --> 00:40:01,439
Speaker 1: they'll take what he says about them. But I listen

773
00:40:01,520 --> 00:40:03,640
Speaker 1: to what he says about everything else and how he

774
00:40:03,680 --> 00:40:08,680
Speaker 1: handles everything else. That told me a lot. Yeah. Yeah, Oh,

775
00:40:08,920 --> 00:40:10,759
Speaker 1: your toads are gonna be on the line. Your hand's

776
00:40:10,800 --> 00:40:11,640
Speaker 1: gonna be over the heart.

777
00:40:12,239 --> 00:40:16,400
Speaker 3: Oh oh oh doing that? Oh yeah yeah yeah, Okay, I.

778
00:40:16,440 --> 00:40:19,400
Speaker 1: See what we're going with this. Yeah, yeah, I see what.

779
00:40:19,719 --> 00:40:20,560
Speaker 1: I see how you think?

780
00:40:21,960 --> 00:40:24,279
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, listen, it's unfortunate.

781
00:40:24,760 --> 00:40:27,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, be you be you. I hate to like I said,

782
00:40:27,840 --> 00:40:31,600
Speaker 1: I know Michael Little, I like him a lot, great personality. No,

783
00:40:31,719 --> 00:40:35,000
Speaker 1: it's is represented it, But I'm gonna be very, very

784
00:40:35,080 --> 00:40:38,560
Speaker 1: disappointed if y'all don't rick Jerry ass cross the colds,

785
00:40:38,760 --> 00:40:40,759
Speaker 1: if y'all don't get at least forty two forty three

786
00:40:40,800 --> 00:40:43,160
Speaker 1: million dollars, if y'all don't get if y'all don't get

787
00:40:43,239 --> 00:40:45,480
Speaker 1: ten million, if y'all don't get five million more than

788
00:40:45,520 --> 00:40:49,680
Speaker 1: what TJ Watt got. TJ got three years, one hundred

789
00:40:49,680 --> 00:40:51,319
Speaker 1: and forty three million. He got one hundred and eight

790
00:40:51,440 --> 00:40:54,880
Speaker 1: guaranteed with one year. Oh man, y'all better get you

791
00:40:54,920 --> 00:40:58,320
Speaker 1: one hundred and fifteen million guarantee, fully guaranteed. As a

792
00:40:58,400 --> 00:41:01,000
Speaker 1: matter of fact, Jered, since you've been nasty, I want

793
00:41:01,040 --> 00:41:05,200
Speaker 1: a hundred of it and signing. I want a hundred

794
00:41:05,200 --> 00:41:06,680
Speaker 1: of about one fifteen and signing.

795
00:41:07,200 --> 00:41:08,840
Speaker 2: As soon as I signed out of line, I'm not

796
00:41:08,920 --> 00:41:12,520
Speaker 2: even shaking hands day, I'm not even shaking hands.

797
00:41:12,520 --> 00:41:14,719
Speaker 1: I'm happy to be a cowboy, but I'm more happy

798
00:41:14,760 --> 00:41:17,000
Speaker 1: than I get to a secure of my family. This

799
00:41:17,080 --> 00:41:21,879
Speaker 1: is generational wealth, my family, my dad, my brother. Hey,

800
00:41:21,920 --> 00:41:25,000
Speaker 1: we're good now, that's crazy.

801
00:41:30,200 --> 00:41:35,640
Speaker 3: Thought he really said that out loud though, Yeah, but

802
00:41:35,800 --> 00:41:37,520
Speaker 3: that's oh, Joe, don't you like that.

803
00:41:37,800 --> 00:41:39,840
Speaker 1: Don't you let me know where? I'm staying with you

804
00:41:41,800 --> 00:41:45,000
Speaker 1: for far too many times, far too many times. I

805
00:41:45,160 --> 00:41:47,080
Speaker 1: just need to know. See, that's the difference between the

806
00:41:47,160 --> 00:41:49,839
Speaker 1: South and the North, and it's how there.

807
00:41:49,880 --> 00:41:50,120
Speaker 4: You know.

808
00:41:50,160 --> 00:41:53,040
Speaker 1: They don't like it, they tell you, Yeah, yeah, I

809
00:41:53,120 --> 00:41:57,400
Speaker 1: don't like you. Bob as opposed to.

810
00:41:57,440 --> 00:42:02,400
Speaker 3: Hide right, Yeah, that's crazy.

811
00:42:02,560 --> 00:42:05,960
Speaker 1: Ye'll tell y'all what he thinks. Michael actually reported the

812
00:42:06,040 --> 00:42:09,920
Speaker 1: training camp today despite the contract stand up. Should know?

813
00:42:10,080 --> 00:42:12,640
Speaker 1: Should Michael trust Jerry Joe's enough to report the camp? Yeah,

814
00:42:12,960 --> 00:42:15,879
Speaker 1: I'm gonna report the camp. I'm a report the camp.

815
00:42:16,160 --> 00:42:19,359
Speaker 1: I don't want to get no money back. I don't

816
00:42:19,360 --> 00:42:27,200
Speaker 1: want to, but I just hey, because they they've tried

817
00:42:27,239 --> 00:42:30,120
Speaker 1: to that's another thing. Oh Joe, see see what they

818
00:42:30,200 --> 00:42:35,680
Speaker 1: put in there. Now, Hey, there's no forgiveness, though it doubles.

819
00:42:35,760 --> 00:42:38,160
Speaker 1: I mean what they started at fifteen thousand, thirty thousand,

820
00:42:38,400 --> 00:42:40,400
Speaker 1: you missed ten. You missed ten fifteen days of practice.

821
00:42:40,400 --> 00:42:44,560
Speaker 1: That's over a million dollars that the team can't forget

822
00:42:44,640 --> 00:42:47,399
Speaker 1: forgive mm hmm. Yeah.

823
00:42:48,680 --> 00:42:51,400
Speaker 3: But now that you know, you go on there, you

824
00:42:51,480 --> 00:42:55,160
Speaker 3: know you play the game. You play the game.

825
00:42:57,040 --> 00:42:59,839
Speaker 1: On the back of my I'm playing for the number

826
00:42:59,840 --> 00:43:01,399
Speaker 1: of the name on the back of my jersey, EF

827
00:43:01,480 --> 00:43:04,000
Speaker 1: that name on the front because that's what you said.

828
00:43:03,840 --> 00:43:12,120
Speaker 3: To me, yeap, basically, basically and not so many words. Yeah,

829
00:43:12,160 --> 00:43:12,720
Speaker 3: that's crazy.

830
00:43:14,520 --> 00:43:20,799
Speaker 1: So hey, go do what you do, Michael. I hope

831
00:43:20,840 --> 00:43:24,200
Speaker 1: Michael get twenty five sacks and the and the forty million.

832
00:43:24,200 --> 00:43:31,200
Speaker 1: You're gonna pass fifty now fifty Mili Michael, hopefully you

833
00:43:31,280 --> 00:43:34,719
Speaker 1: get a contract extension. What's Michael playing on? What's this

834
00:43:34,800 --> 00:43:47,480
Speaker 1: fifty option twenty? What? Because he's outside, he's the edge

835
00:43:47,520 --> 00:43:51,800
Speaker 1: over here d N twenty four Millie, Michael. All you

836
00:43:51,960 --> 00:43:55,800
Speaker 1: do is that you pay your monthly expenses. Don't you

837
00:43:55,920 --> 00:44:00,200
Speaker 1: buy nothing, Don't you buy a car, don't you ay Hey,

838
00:44:00,200 --> 00:44:03,040
Speaker 1: your mom and dad say, look here, there'll be no

839
00:44:03,200 --> 00:44:06,000
Speaker 1: expenses going on. I'm gonna pay my rent. I'm gonna

840
00:44:06,000 --> 00:44:10,560
Speaker 1: pay X, Y and Z. I'm just gonna pay monthly expenses. Yeah,

841
00:44:10,680 --> 00:44:13,640
Speaker 1: I'm gonna sit tight because if this, you know what,

842
00:44:14,040 --> 00:44:18,080
Speaker 1: try to franchise me. I'm not coming. I'm not signing

843
00:44:18,120 --> 00:44:24,680
Speaker 1: no franchise tag. I'm not signing a franchise tag. How

844
00:44:24,760 --> 00:44:25,200
Speaker 1: you knew it?

845
00:44:25,640 --> 00:44:26,719
Speaker 3: You think you would have played with him?

846
00:44:28,160 --> 00:44:34,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, you do realize. Here's the thing, O Joe. You

847
00:44:34,080 --> 00:44:35,759
Speaker 1: didn't do it to me now, so you've made me

848
00:44:35,920 --> 00:44:41,279
Speaker 1: run the gauntlet two years in the row. Why oh no,

849
00:44:42,200 --> 00:44:44,120
Speaker 1: I'm hit you over the head with a heavy hammer.

850
00:44:45,920 --> 00:44:49,640
Speaker 1: Yes absolutely, If I'm yes, the price goes the price

851
00:44:49,680 --> 00:44:51,400
Speaker 1: goes up ten percent every year that you don't get

852
00:44:51,440 --> 00:44:54,239
Speaker 1: this done. So right now, it's forty two million. You

853
00:44:54,280 --> 00:44:56,200
Speaker 1: don't pay me this year. Guess what it is? A

854
00:44:56,239 --> 00:45:00,000
Speaker 1: ten percent increase forty six million, and plus another tempercent

855
00:45:00,200 --> 00:45:02,919
Speaker 1: on the on the sign up, on the guaranteed money.

856
00:45:05,400 --> 00:45:05,719
Speaker 1: I don't.

857
00:45:05,960 --> 00:45:09,040
Speaker 3: I don't. Is he does he purposely? What is the method?

858
00:45:09,400 --> 00:45:11,600
Speaker 3: You did it with CEEDE. Lamb, you did it with D.

859
00:45:12,719 --> 00:45:12,919
Speaker 1: DG.

860
00:45:13,040 --> 00:45:13,400
Speaker 3: Elliott?

861
00:45:13,680 --> 00:45:18,080
Speaker 1: What's the what's the purpose because he's he's thinking they're

862
00:45:18,120 --> 00:45:21,560
Speaker 1: going to give him a discount. I'm not giving you

863
00:45:21,640 --> 00:45:23,839
Speaker 1: a discount when you're making me run to the last

864
00:45:23,920 --> 00:45:27,239
Speaker 1: year of the contract. Oh Joe, I'm not see he

865
00:45:27,560 --> 00:45:30,560
Speaker 1: thought that would give him a discount, like Wentz and

866
00:45:30,719 --> 00:45:34,560
Speaker 1: Golf gave their teams discounts. But those teams, they were

867
00:45:34,640 --> 00:45:37,799
Speaker 1: first and second overall pick. They got huge. Their total

868
00:45:37,840 --> 00:45:41,640
Speaker 1: contract was guaranteed. They got four they got thirty five million,

869
00:45:41,680 --> 00:45:44,719
Speaker 1: they got thirty two million fully guaranteed. I don't know

870
00:45:44,800 --> 00:45:46,200
Speaker 1: what that That was the fourth round pick, so I

871
00:45:46,200 --> 00:45:49,320
Speaker 1: don't really know what those numbers are. Then three years

872
00:45:49,360 --> 00:45:54,200
Speaker 1: into the deal they give a new contract. That is

873
00:45:54,320 --> 00:45:57,440
Speaker 1: what they did with that. So, oh Joe, I've already

874
00:45:57,440 --> 00:46:00,359
Speaker 1: gotten thirty two thirty three billion dollars a guarant team

875
00:46:01,120 --> 00:46:03,239
Speaker 1: plus you come to me early, Okay, I give you

876
00:46:03,239 --> 00:46:06,239
Speaker 1: a little discount. I help you, I help the salary.

877
00:46:06,000 --> 00:46:08,520
Speaker 3: Camp right, understandable, understandable.

878
00:46:08,880 --> 00:46:11,160
Speaker 1: I'm not giving you a discount when I'm that low

879
00:46:11,200 --> 00:46:14,440
Speaker 1: of a draft pick my first contract, yes, sir, not

880
00:46:14,600 --> 00:46:19,279
Speaker 1: first one. I'm trying to split your dome. Oh yes, absolutely,

881
00:46:19,760 --> 00:46:21,640
Speaker 1: Now I might give you one. The second one but

882
00:46:21,760 --> 00:46:26,840
Speaker 1: that's my choosing. No you say, oh, you know, you

883
00:46:27,000 --> 00:46:30,240
Speaker 1: tell me that's you know, football business and let football

884
00:46:30,280 --> 00:46:32,480
Speaker 1: people do football things. Well, I'm gonna let y'all handle

885
00:46:32,520 --> 00:46:35,200
Speaker 1: that salary camp. So my job is not to try

886
00:46:35,239 --> 00:46:38,000
Speaker 1: to help y'all manage all salary camp. I'm trying to

887
00:46:38,160 --> 00:46:42,120
Speaker 1: extract because I care just about as much as winning

888
00:46:42,160 --> 00:46:44,800
Speaker 1: as you do. Jerry Jones has shown you over the

889
00:46:44,880 --> 00:46:48,319
Speaker 1: last thirty years he doesn't care about winning. So guess

890
00:46:48,360 --> 00:46:53,360
Speaker 1: what me either, you care about making money? So do

891
00:46:53,520 --> 00:47:03,960
Speaker 1: I I care about what you care about? Out? Oh okay,

892
00:47:04,960 --> 00:47:08,160
Speaker 1: we got a special guest joining us, Old Joe uh

893
00:47:08,800 --> 00:47:12,000
Speaker 1: Chakur Stevenson. He just had a fight over where you

894
00:47:12,160 --> 00:47:17,479
Speaker 1: beat Williams Supada uh Stevenson landed two hundred and ninety

895
00:47:17,560 --> 00:47:21,319
Speaker 1: five of five hundred and sixty five punches thrown fifty two.

896
00:47:21,840 --> 00:47:26,120
Speaker 1: Damn not landing ninety six jabs of two hundred and

897
00:47:26,160 --> 00:47:32,040
Speaker 1: seven thrown forty six? Damn did he move? Damn he'll

898
00:47:32,120 --> 00:47:33,719
Speaker 1: punch it. He'll a punching bag.

899
00:47:33,880 --> 00:47:34,520
Speaker 3: What the hell?

900
00:47:35,280 --> 00:47:37,800
Speaker 1: How do you have? How do you hit somebody fifty

901
00:47:37,840 --> 00:47:41,080
Speaker 1: two percent of the time of punches land you hit

902
00:47:41,160 --> 00:47:43,799
Speaker 1: somebody forty six percent of the time of giants thrown

903
00:47:44,239 --> 00:47:47,240
Speaker 1: and power shots, you land it and you hit somebody

904
00:47:47,360 --> 00:47:49,600
Speaker 1: fifty six percent of the time with power shots.

905
00:47:50,000 --> 00:47:50,759
Speaker 3: Can I can?

906
00:47:50,840 --> 00:47:52,600
Speaker 1: I can I explain to you who was fighting the

907
00:47:52,640 --> 00:47:57,200
Speaker 1: statue a SA court. Go ahead on, Joe, take off.

908
00:47:57,440 --> 00:47:58,320
Speaker 1: I will let you have it.

909
00:47:58,840 --> 00:48:02,759
Speaker 3: Hey, you mute it? Uh you get me there, We

910
00:48:02,840 --> 00:48:03,960
Speaker 3: got you, I get you.

911
00:48:04,120 --> 00:48:05,640
Speaker 6: Not good, y'all.

912
00:48:06,640 --> 00:48:13,040
Speaker 1: We didn't give you. We wanted to get right, We

913
00:48:13,200 --> 00:48:15,120
Speaker 1: wanted to get you in. Uh, we're gonna give you

914
00:48:15,120 --> 00:48:19,000
Speaker 1: a proper introduction because you know. But go ahead, go ahead,

915
00:48:19,000 --> 00:48:20,680
Speaker 1: Oh Joe, I'm gonna let you take it off. Take off.

916
00:48:21,160 --> 00:48:23,920
Speaker 2: Now you're probably gonna say, I'm just read off the

917
00:48:24,000 --> 00:48:26,840
Speaker 2: stats and and a lot of people don't really understand

918
00:48:27,440 --> 00:48:30,319
Speaker 2: how good you are offensively when it comes let's sene

919
00:48:30,320 --> 00:48:31,120
Speaker 2: your defensive offense.

920
00:48:31,120 --> 00:48:32,400
Speaker 3: They don't understand how good you are.

921
00:48:33,120 --> 00:48:37,520
Speaker 2: How does it feel for all those that doubted saying

922
00:48:37,760 --> 00:48:40,279
Speaker 2: he's always running, he doesn't stand there and fight.

923
00:48:40,680 --> 00:48:42,600
Speaker 3: To show the world that you can also put on

924
00:48:42,680 --> 00:48:44,920
Speaker 3: the box and clint it. You can sit in the pocket.

925
00:48:45,000 --> 00:48:49,000
Speaker 2: Against a pressure fighter where everywhere everybody thought because he's

926
00:48:49,000 --> 00:48:51,759
Speaker 2: a pressure fighter, you would be running around, But what

927
00:48:51,920 --> 00:48:54,560
Speaker 2: you did. You sat in the pocket, you created distance,

928
00:48:54,760 --> 00:48:56,400
Speaker 2: you stayed at mid range, and.

929
00:48:56,480 --> 00:49:00,399
Speaker 3: You put on a fucking clinic. What were your game

930
00:49:00,480 --> 00:49:01,480
Speaker 3: plan going into that fight?

931
00:49:02,200 --> 00:49:04,880
Speaker 6: Honestly, man, my game plan was different than what I

932
00:49:04,960 --> 00:49:05,759
Speaker 6: did on fight night.

933
00:49:06,640 --> 00:49:06,759
Speaker 3: Right.

934
00:49:07,160 --> 00:49:10,040
Speaker 4: I talked with my coaches. My coaches had a certain

935
00:49:10,080 --> 00:49:13,319
Speaker 4: game plan. They wanted me to outbox and move make

936
00:49:13,400 --> 00:49:16,719
Speaker 4: him frustrated with my feet. But bro, it was like

937
00:49:16,920 --> 00:49:19,200
Speaker 4: I wanted to do the unexpected, like he kind of

938
00:49:19,320 --> 00:49:22,400
Speaker 4: expected me to go in there and move around and

939
00:49:22,640 --> 00:49:26,239
Speaker 4: Tom and Jerry all week right right right. For me,

940
00:49:26,440 --> 00:49:27,719
Speaker 4: it was like, shit, I want to do what you

941
00:49:27,880 --> 00:49:29,799
Speaker 4: think that I'm not going to do. So I went

942
00:49:29,880 --> 00:49:32,640
Speaker 4: in there, I stood in the pocket. I put on

943
00:49:32,719 --> 00:49:34,160
Speaker 4: a perfect display of boxing.

944
00:49:34,200 --> 00:49:35,120
Speaker 3: And also.

945
00:49:36,760 --> 00:49:38,440
Speaker 6: A lot of people here they doubt it, but like

946
00:49:38,560 --> 00:49:40,759
Speaker 6: it feels regular for me, like it's nothing new, it's

947
00:49:40,800 --> 00:49:42,920
Speaker 6: nothing different because I already knew what I was building.

948
00:49:43,320 --> 00:49:45,839
Speaker 6: You can't see me work before you know who I am.

949
00:49:45,920 --> 00:49:48,960
Speaker 6: So it wasn't it wasn't nothing new for me, Like

950
00:49:49,080 --> 00:49:51,319
Speaker 6: it was, it was very much regular.

951
00:49:52,680 --> 00:49:54,640
Speaker 2: When it when it comes to when it comes to

952
00:49:54,719 --> 00:49:57,839
Speaker 2: different fighters, obviously, fighting someone fighting a pressure fighter, found

953
00:49:58,160 --> 00:50:03,200
Speaker 2: fighting a fighter that's accounted puncher. How much goes into

954
00:50:03,560 --> 00:50:09,080
Speaker 2: game planning for that individual fighter, and how I don't

955
00:50:09,120 --> 00:50:10,959
Speaker 2: want to say the right way knowing that he's gonna

956
00:50:11,239 --> 00:50:13,319
Speaker 2: apply pressure the whole time most of the time.

957
00:50:13,360 --> 00:50:14,040
Speaker 3: That's the way he fights.

958
00:50:14,040 --> 00:50:17,719
Speaker 2: He fights everybody the same way. What went into your

959
00:50:17,760 --> 00:50:19,560
Speaker 2: game plan where your coach is saying they want to.

960
00:50:19,600 --> 00:50:22,640
Speaker 3: Use your feet, but you chose, you know what, forget

961
00:50:22,680 --> 00:50:23,359
Speaker 3: what you're all talking about.

962
00:50:23,360 --> 00:50:25,960
Speaker 2: I'm finna sit in the pocket and it's not gonna

963
00:50:25,960 --> 00:50:28,120
Speaker 2: be a banging match. I'm gonna just I'm gonna make

964
00:50:28,120 --> 00:50:31,920
Speaker 2: sure my my defense is my offense. And obviously, statistically

965
00:50:32,320 --> 00:50:36,200
Speaker 2: the punch you hit ninety ninety fifty two of punches landed,

966
00:50:36,280 --> 00:50:39,160
Speaker 2: you had power. I mean, just everything effing worked. And

967
00:50:39,280 --> 00:50:41,720
Speaker 2: at what point did you realize he was frustrated because

968
00:50:42,080 --> 00:50:44,840
Speaker 2: his game plan wasn't working even though he tried to adjust.

969
00:50:45,520 --> 00:50:49,160
Speaker 4: I knew he was frustrated in like the sixth round. Yeah,

970
00:50:49,320 --> 00:50:52,279
Speaker 4: when I seeing him kind of start thinking and and

971
00:50:52,320 --> 00:50:54,040
Speaker 4: he kind of like settled down a little bit. He

972
00:50:54,160 --> 00:50:57,920
Speaker 4: wasn't like as aggressive as he was first half of

973
00:50:57,960 --> 00:51:01,120
Speaker 4: the fight. So boom, kind of like I had a

974
00:51:01,160 --> 00:51:02,960
Speaker 4: good game plan, my coaches said they had a great

975
00:51:03,000 --> 00:51:06,080
Speaker 4: game plan, but for me on my brain just working

976
00:51:06,080 --> 00:51:07,560
Speaker 4: a different way. I know, I'm the one that's in

977
00:51:07,640 --> 00:51:10,440
Speaker 4: there fighting, so trying to be thinking on the spot.

978
00:51:11,520 --> 00:51:12,480
Speaker 1: But he was.

979
00:51:12,680 --> 00:51:13,439
Speaker 6: He was a tough fighter.

980
00:51:13,480 --> 00:51:15,719
Speaker 4: He kind of pushed me. I've been telling everybody the

981
00:51:15,800 --> 00:51:18,520
Speaker 4: whole week. I said, this guy's going to bring out

982
00:51:18,560 --> 00:51:20,920
Speaker 4: the best of me on this job. Y'all think that

983
00:51:21,040 --> 00:51:22,960
Speaker 4: I can't sit in the pocket, y'all think that I

984
00:51:23,040 --> 00:51:25,359
Speaker 4: can't fight. So this is a guy that I'm gonna

985
00:51:25,360 --> 00:51:28,040
Speaker 4: show all of these different tools and things. And when

986
00:51:28,080 --> 00:51:29,520
Speaker 4: we came in and we did what we had to do.

987
00:51:31,280 --> 00:51:32,920
Speaker 1: Is that the first time that you kind of gone

988
00:51:32,920 --> 00:51:35,440
Speaker 1: away from what the game plan was kind of probably

989
00:51:35,480 --> 00:51:38,439
Speaker 1: what you practiced in training camp, because like you said,

990
00:51:38,480 --> 00:51:40,080
Speaker 1: he was gonna be Tom and Jerry. You're gonna you know,

991
00:51:40,560 --> 00:51:43,880
Speaker 1: box him, use your speed, use use all your movement.

992
00:51:44,200 --> 00:51:46,040
Speaker 1: And you said, you know what, no, I'm gonna sit here.

993
00:51:46,320 --> 00:51:48,880
Speaker 1: Because that was a knock on you, shokrd Man. He

994
00:51:48,960 --> 00:51:51,120
Speaker 1: ain't fighting nobody. I mean, not only does he not

995
00:51:51,200 --> 00:51:53,760
Speaker 1: fight anybody, he duck and he ain't sitting in the pocket.

996
00:51:53,760 --> 00:51:56,440
Speaker 1: He ain't throwing no lever. He running around, got everybody

997
00:51:56,520 --> 00:51:58,439
Speaker 1: chasing me, he picking him off like that. He said,

998
00:51:58,440 --> 00:52:00,200
Speaker 1: the hell with that, let me show you what I do.

999
00:52:01,200 --> 00:52:03,920
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, you know, like I said, I've been dow that.

1000
00:52:04,080 --> 00:52:06,080
Speaker 4: I've been knew that, but that wasn't my first time

1001
00:52:06,680 --> 00:52:09,040
Speaker 4: going with my instincts. I think my instincts kind of

1002
00:52:09,080 --> 00:52:12,319
Speaker 4: take over a lot come quite nice. So I kind

1003
00:52:12,320 --> 00:52:14,880
Speaker 4: of watched this dude over and over and over. I've

1004
00:52:14,880 --> 00:52:16,080
Speaker 4: seen a lot of weaknesses.

1005
00:52:16,920 --> 00:52:20,799
Speaker 6: I also knew that me killing on the ropes wasn't

1006
00:52:20,880 --> 00:52:22,440
Speaker 6: as bad as.

1007
00:52:22,640 --> 00:52:25,840
Speaker 3: But everybody made it seem to be, like yeah, especially

1008
00:52:25,880 --> 00:52:26,840
Speaker 3: just damn commentators.

1009
00:52:26,920 --> 00:52:31,120
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, but in a in a sport, you're not

1010
00:52:31,239 --> 00:52:32,920
Speaker 4: supposed to do that, and you're not supposed to be

1011
00:52:32,960 --> 00:52:33,640
Speaker 4: sitting on the ropes.

1012
00:52:33,680 --> 00:52:34,640
Speaker 6: It's a bad thing to do.

1013
00:52:35,840 --> 00:52:38,200
Speaker 4: But somebody like me, I kind of open guys up,

1014
00:52:38,360 --> 00:52:42,360
Speaker 4: like they feel more comfortable to open up when they

1015
00:52:43,000 --> 00:52:43,600
Speaker 4: when they get me.

1016
00:52:43,640 --> 00:52:44,160
Speaker 3: To the ropes.

1017
00:52:44,960 --> 00:52:51,080
Speaker 2: So basically, to me, every time you sat on the ropes,

1018
00:52:51,680 --> 00:52:54,440
Speaker 2: you go go in to Philly shell and then all

1019
00:52:54,480 --> 00:52:57,120
Speaker 2: you're doing is you're baiting him and the throwing punches,

1020
00:52:57,520 --> 00:53:00,200
Speaker 2: and you know, if he throws six, I can old

1021
00:53:00,239 --> 00:53:03,160
Speaker 2: and block five and counted in between. Yeah, and it

1022
00:53:03,280 --> 00:53:06,680
Speaker 2: worked every single time where at some point to pay

1023
00:53:06,760 --> 00:53:09,600
Speaker 2: that Okay, you have to make adjustments. Make it because

1024
00:53:09,600 --> 00:53:11,400
Speaker 2: he's sitting on the rope for for a reason, and

1025
00:53:11,520 --> 00:53:14,160
Speaker 2: bag you to throw. As soon as you throw, you

1026
00:53:14,320 --> 00:53:17,440
Speaker 2: roll one way, roll the other, slipp slipper jab in.

1027
00:53:17,640 --> 00:53:17,799
Speaker 6: Yeah.

1028
00:53:17,920 --> 00:53:21,359
Speaker 4: But also if you watch the second half of the fight,

1029
00:53:22,000 --> 00:53:24,879
Speaker 4: my adjustment was to get off the ropers.

1030
00:53:25,160 --> 00:53:26,880
Speaker 3: Right and stay in the middle of the stay in

1031
00:53:26,920 --> 00:53:27,560
Speaker 3: the senate of the ring.

1032
00:53:29,200 --> 00:53:32,040
Speaker 6: I kind of took control the fight, yeah, instead of

1033
00:53:32,080 --> 00:53:32,920
Speaker 6: the ring, because I.

1034
00:53:33,000 --> 00:53:36,120
Speaker 4: Knew I don't know what these judges is scoring, so

1035
00:53:36,280 --> 00:53:40,640
Speaker 4: I know he kind of I know I'm ahead, but

1036
00:53:40,800 --> 00:53:43,200
Speaker 4: I still want to make sure I leave my mark

1037
00:53:43,280 --> 00:53:45,480
Speaker 4: and make sure I don't leave no room for the

1038
00:53:45,560 --> 00:53:46,279
Speaker 4: judges to rob me.

1039
00:53:46,440 --> 00:53:48,200
Speaker 6: So I kind of made that adjustment in the second

1040
00:53:48,239 --> 00:53:48,759
Speaker 6: half of the fight.

1041
00:53:49,920 --> 00:53:53,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, as you started off at a featherweight, now you're

1042
00:53:53,360 --> 00:53:55,920
Speaker 1: a lightweight, and you know you're in that lightweight division

1043
00:53:55,960 --> 00:53:59,200
Speaker 1: of one thirty five. You look at the grace that's

1044
00:53:59,200 --> 00:54:02,799
Speaker 1: been in that division. Robert of the Ram, Sweepee, Whittaker, Shavez,

1045
00:54:03,120 --> 00:54:06,960
Speaker 1: Henry Armstrong, Ben Atlanta, the Ghetto of the Ghetto, Kid

1046
00:54:07,480 --> 00:54:09,800
Speaker 1: where where are you now? Are you are you like

1047
00:54:09,880 --> 00:54:11,520
Speaker 1: I'm gonna stay here for a minute, or are you

1048
00:54:11,600 --> 00:54:14,480
Speaker 1: gonna go to super lightweight at one forty Now I'm

1049
00:54:14,520 --> 00:54:15,440
Speaker 1: an actual lightweight.

1050
00:54:15,840 --> 00:54:18,440
Speaker 4: A lot of guys don't even realize I walk around

1051
00:54:18,520 --> 00:54:20,359
Speaker 4: close to my fight with Like how they talk about

1052
00:54:20,400 --> 00:54:21,280
Speaker 4: guys like Floyd.

1053
00:54:22,040 --> 00:54:25,160
Speaker 6: Yeah, yes, yes, he walked around close to his fight weight.

1054
00:54:25,320 --> 00:54:28,160
Speaker 1: So three pounds, four pounds either weight, I don't.

1055
00:54:28,239 --> 00:54:31,520
Speaker 4: I don't see myself getting no bigger to fight at

1056
00:54:31,520 --> 00:54:33,440
Speaker 4: one hundred and forty pounds. Them guys is a lot

1057
00:54:33,520 --> 00:54:36,800
Speaker 4: bigger than me. So if I do it, it'll just

1058
00:54:36,920 --> 00:54:39,399
Speaker 4: be okay. And then everything At one hundred and thirty

1059
00:54:39,440 --> 00:54:43,520
Speaker 4: five pounds, I conquered the division and now it's trying

1060
00:54:43,600 --> 00:54:46,000
Speaker 4: to move up, so uncomfortable here. I want to be

1061
00:54:46,080 --> 00:54:48,279
Speaker 4: one of the best light wasts of all time, and

1062
00:54:49,160 --> 00:54:51,239
Speaker 4: my last flight was the kind of the.

1063
00:54:51,320 --> 00:54:51,920
Speaker 6: Beginning of that.

1064
00:54:52,719 --> 00:54:54,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, most definitely. And speaking of.

1065
00:54:57,200 --> 00:54:59,200
Speaker 2: Okay, I'm gonna say, speaking of what you want to

1066
00:54:59,239 --> 00:55:02,279
Speaker 2: be a comp, I mean be known for and that

1067
00:55:02,560 --> 00:55:05,759
Speaker 2: last fight being the indication that you're well on your weight.

1068
00:55:06,200 --> 00:55:09,120
Speaker 3: But what's next? Who's next? If if you had three

1069
00:55:09,160 --> 00:55:12,160
Speaker 3: fights lined up in no particular order where you can

1070
00:55:12,200 --> 00:55:13,320
Speaker 3: continue to feel.

1071
00:55:13,080 --> 00:55:15,920
Speaker 2: That dreaming legacy of being one of the best lightweights

1072
00:55:15,960 --> 00:55:19,080
Speaker 2: at one thirty five? Ever, who are the next who

1073
00:55:19,120 --> 00:55:21,080
Speaker 2: are the next three that you would like to fight?

1074
00:55:21,520 --> 00:55:23,600
Speaker 2: And I'm not saying call anybody out, I'm just saying

1075
00:55:23,640 --> 00:55:26,040
Speaker 2: in general that you know that will continue to help

1076
00:55:26,400 --> 00:55:27,839
Speaker 2: be of that legacy you're trying to build.

1077
00:55:27,960 --> 00:55:30,319
Speaker 3: Call no, I don't do it, don't.

1078
00:55:31,360 --> 00:55:40,040
Speaker 4: I think I take Tank Lamont light waight lightweight. I

1079
00:55:40,160 --> 00:55:42,680
Speaker 4: like I like Andy Kruz. I like Andy Kluz. I'm

1080
00:55:42,719 --> 00:55:45,520
Speaker 4: a competitor, so I like the best fights and the

1081
00:55:45,600 --> 00:55:48,239
Speaker 4: best most competitive fights. So I think them guys is

1082
00:55:48,320 --> 00:55:50,520
Speaker 4: more so than three most competitive guys for me.

1083
00:55:51,400 --> 00:55:54,160
Speaker 1: I think Tank is the money fight. I think that's

1084
00:55:54,239 --> 00:55:56,920
Speaker 1: the you know, not only would that that help submit

1085
00:55:57,040 --> 00:55:59,680
Speaker 1: your legacy at the lightweight division, I think that's the

1086
00:55:59,719 --> 00:56:01,680
Speaker 1: fight your court that's gonna pay you the most money

1087
00:56:02,600 --> 00:56:02,960
Speaker 1: for sure.

1088
00:56:03,160 --> 00:56:06,200
Speaker 4: You know, he's a guy that everybody's been talking about

1089
00:56:06,239 --> 00:56:08,640
Speaker 4: for a long time, So I can't wait.

1090
00:56:09,360 --> 00:56:12,200
Speaker 1: I knock out power. It's gonna be his power versus

1091
00:56:12,280 --> 00:56:12,760
Speaker 1: your skill.

1092
00:56:13,400 --> 00:56:16,440
Speaker 6: Oh you know it's crazy about that. This is no cap,

1093
00:56:16,600 --> 00:56:16,880
Speaker 6: no cap.

1094
00:56:16,960 --> 00:56:19,320
Speaker 4: You know a lot of gods, they're like, oh he

1095
00:56:19,440 --> 00:56:21,279
Speaker 4: did that against the pay that because the pay is

1096
00:56:21,320 --> 00:56:25,720
Speaker 4: not a big puncher. I would rather fight a power

1097
00:56:25,800 --> 00:56:27,760
Speaker 4: puncher any day and fight that kind of value.

1098
00:56:29,480 --> 00:56:30,680
Speaker 1: Tell us why.

1099
00:56:36,600 --> 00:56:40,759
Speaker 4: Because after the fight my body was done, Like I done,

1100
00:56:40,840 --> 00:56:43,239
Speaker 4: been in there with power punchers to where it's life.

1101
00:56:43,280 --> 00:56:44,719
Speaker 4: You know, you gotta think and get out the way

1102
00:56:44,800 --> 00:56:48,320
Speaker 4: and don't let them lay in that big shot. But

1103
00:56:48,480 --> 00:56:51,360
Speaker 4: when you're fighting a value punching, he punching on your arms,

1104
00:56:51,440 --> 00:56:55,960
Speaker 4: your body, it's just very much like a fight, a

1105
00:56:56,040 --> 00:56:59,000
Speaker 4: big ass fight to where it's life. After the fight

1106
00:56:59,080 --> 00:57:05,960
Speaker 4: you need massage. Is it's a big fight on I

1107
00:57:06,000 --> 00:57:07,719
Speaker 4: would rather fight them guys any day.

1108
00:57:08,480 --> 00:57:09,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's so funny.

1109
00:57:10,200 --> 00:57:11,920
Speaker 2: I like the three names that you did call out

1110
00:57:12,480 --> 00:57:14,879
Speaker 2: about fighting. I think tank Is is the money fight.

1111
00:57:15,160 --> 00:57:17,960
Speaker 2: But the fight that would interest me the most based

1112
00:57:18,000 --> 00:57:20,800
Speaker 2: on skill set, you know, styles make fights. The one

1113
00:57:20,840 --> 00:57:23,120
Speaker 2: I think would be the best chess match you know

1114
00:57:23,280 --> 00:57:25,720
Speaker 2: from round to round and both of you, you know

1115
00:57:26,000 --> 00:57:30,760
Speaker 2: it would be brother Roach, Brother, brother Roach. I think

1116
00:57:30,920 --> 00:57:33,000
Speaker 2: to me, for those of us that are not casual

1117
00:57:33,080 --> 00:57:36,160
Speaker 2: boxing fans and actually enjoy the sweet science, I would

1118
00:57:36,200 --> 00:57:38,160
Speaker 2: love to watch that a fight with you and Roach

1119
00:57:38,240 --> 00:57:41,440
Speaker 2: developed round by round and just just just the thinking

1120
00:57:41,520 --> 00:57:44,000
Speaker 2: game and the chess match that it would be based

1121
00:57:44,040 --> 00:57:45,280
Speaker 2: on y'all skill sets.

1122
00:57:46,480 --> 00:57:47,800
Speaker 6: But I would love that fight too.

1123
00:57:47,880 --> 00:57:49,800
Speaker 4: I think that's the one of the fights to make

1124
00:57:49,840 --> 00:57:54,240
Speaker 4: I think that Lamia is very underrated. I'm glad pugging

1125
00:57:54,320 --> 00:57:56,400
Speaker 4: it out about his skill set because a lot of

1126
00:57:56,440 --> 00:57:57,880
Speaker 4: people don't realize how good.

1127
00:57:57,720 --> 00:58:01,080
Speaker 6: He really is and own. You know, I appreciate Lamar too.

1128
00:58:01,200 --> 00:58:02,720
Speaker 4: He's one of the guys who came and helped me

1129
00:58:02,760 --> 00:58:04,920
Speaker 4: in one of my biggest fights in my career when

1130
00:58:04,920 --> 00:58:09,080
Speaker 4: I Osca Valdas. I made Lamar roach my main's farm partner,

1131
00:58:09,120 --> 00:58:10,760
Speaker 4: and he kind of got me hearty for that fight.

1132
00:58:10,880 --> 00:58:13,200
Speaker 1: So you know, I'm real cool with him.

1133
00:58:13,200 --> 00:58:14,600
Speaker 6: I would love to fight him though, I would love

1134
00:58:14,640 --> 00:58:15,080
Speaker 6: to fight him.

1135
00:58:15,560 --> 00:58:18,080
Speaker 1: You know a lot of people think that Lamar actually

1136
00:58:18,120 --> 00:58:20,640
Speaker 1: beat Tank in that fight. What do you think I do?

1137
00:58:20,800 --> 00:58:25,120
Speaker 6: I think Lamar won. I think Lamar won seventy five

1138
00:58:25,360 --> 00:58:27,240
Speaker 6: eighty four, even.

1139
00:58:27,120 --> 00:58:29,640
Speaker 1: Without the without the knockdown.

1140
00:58:29,800 --> 00:58:33,080
Speaker 6: Yeah, without the knockdown. That should have been called she court.

1141
00:58:33,160 --> 00:58:35,200
Speaker 1: When you look, when you look, and you look, look,

1142
00:58:35,280 --> 00:58:37,080
Speaker 1: you're in that division of one thirty five. And as

1143
00:58:37,120 --> 00:58:40,920
Speaker 1: I mentioned, there've been some great one thirty fighters, Roberto Duran, Sweetpee, Whittaker,

1144
00:58:41,200 --> 00:58:43,440
Speaker 1: they like in Henry Armstrong and there have been some

1145
00:58:43,560 --> 00:58:48,360
Speaker 1: great So when did you study any of those? Uh uh,

1146
00:58:49,240 --> 00:58:52,120
Speaker 1: Chavez Senior? Do you study any of those guys?

1147
00:58:52,200 --> 00:58:52,720
Speaker 4: Do you like?

1148
00:58:53,000 --> 00:58:55,000
Speaker 1: Do you understand like when you say I want to

1149
00:58:55,040 --> 00:58:57,440
Speaker 1: be one of the all time greats and those guys

1150
00:58:57,960 --> 00:59:01,280
Speaker 1: had those guys had night one hundred fights. You're probably

1151
00:59:01,320 --> 00:59:03,280
Speaker 1: not gonna get to a one hundred fights. You're probably

1152
00:59:03,360 --> 00:59:06,160
Speaker 1: hoping to get to like forty. But do you understand

1153
00:59:06,200 --> 00:59:07,480
Speaker 1: that when you say I want to be an all

1154
00:59:07,560 --> 00:59:10,040
Speaker 1: time great in this division? Some of the all time

1155
00:59:10,120 --> 00:59:11,760
Speaker 1: greats that have been in that division.

1156
00:59:12,080 --> 00:59:14,200
Speaker 4: It's very hard. It's a very hard thing to do.

1157
00:59:14,600 --> 00:59:17,880
Speaker 4: You gotta pay homage to the great Roberto Duran or

1158
00:59:17,920 --> 00:59:19,080
Speaker 4: the great Panel.

1159
00:59:18,840 --> 00:59:20,560
Speaker 1: Sweet Pee with a cup sweet Pee.

1160
00:59:21,680 --> 00:59:24,640
Speaker 4: Even even Floyd when he when he had his one

1161
00:59:24,720 --> 00:59:26,640
Speaker 4: thirty five run, he was a hell of one thirty

1162
00:59:26,680 --> 00:59:27,080
Speaker 4: five run.

1163
00:59:27,200 --> 00:59:29,960
Speaker 1: So I paid Lord with four boarding people though at

1164
00:59:30,000 --> 00:59:32,160
Speaker 1: that weight, people don't realize Foe had not got power

1165
00:59:32,200 --> 00:59:35,840
Speaker 1: at them light of weight, and one go look at

1166
00:59:35,920 --> 00:59:37,960
Speaker 1: him against Gotti, Go look at him, and there was

1167
00:59:38,000 --> 00:59:41,080
Speaker 1: some of those guys he was bought for sure.

1168
00:59:41,320 --> 00:59:44,360
Speaker 4: I just feel like, Man, I'm a competitor, bro. So

1169
00:59:44,480 --> 00:59:47,040
Speaker 4: it's like I appreciate them guys. I pay how much

1170
00:59:47,080 --> 00:59:50,840
Speaker 4: to them guys. But I'm not going nowhere anytime soon.

1171
00:59:51,000 --> 00:59:54,600
Speaker 4: So in that weight class, I'm gonna be here and

1172
00:59:55,080 --> 00:59:58,160
Speaker 4: people gotta come through me. So now you got all

1173
00:59:58,200 --> 01:00:01,360
Speaker 4: these young fighters, all these new fighters that's coming around.

1174
01:00:02,360 --> 01:00:04,720
Speaker 4: I'm the man in the division, bro, and like, you're

1175
01:00:04,760 --> 01:00:06,880
Speaker 4: not taking nothing from me. Bro, I've been here for

1176
01:00:07,000 --> 01:00:09,800
Speaker 4: too long. I've been doing this just five years old. Bro,

1177
01:00:10,440 --> 01:00:12,440
Speaker 4: I'm going to be the man and I'm coming to.

1178
01:00:12,440 --> 01:00:13,040
Speaker 6: Get my spot.

1179
01:00:14,120 --> 01:00:14,520
Speaker 1: I like it.

1180
01:00:14,880 --> 01:00:18,520
Speaker 2: Hey, not as good as you've gotten from a skill

1181
01:00:18,800 --> 01:00:21,480
Speaker 2: from a skill set standpoint, obviously being able to fight

1182
01:00:21,560 --> 01:00:23,680
Speaker 2: in the pocket, being able to fight mid range, obviously

1183
01:00:24,160 --> 01:00:26,280
Speaker 2: being at distance. That's that's pretty easy for you to

1184
01:00:26,360 --> 01:00:28,680
Speaker 2: be able to hit somebody at will. How do you

1185
01:00:28,960 --> 01:00:31,360
Speaker 2: continue to improve on your skill set? And are there

1186
01:00:31,360 --> 01:00:34,320
Speaker 2: any boxes that you watch right now that you enjoy

1187
01:00:34,680 --> 01:00:36,760
Speaker 2: and kind of steal stuff from them and add it

1188
01:00:36,800 --> 01:00:38,960
Speaker 2: to your game or are you too far into the

1189
01:00:39,000 --> 01:00:39,560
Speaker 2: game and do that?

1190
01:00:39,880 --> 01:00:41,840
Speaker 4: Well, No, you is never too far in the game

1191
01:00:41,920 --> 01:00:45,160
Speaker 4: to evolve and learn, bro, Like you've always got to

1192
01:00:45,200 --> 01:00:45,800
Speaker 4: be able to learn.

1193
01:00:45,880 --> 01:00:48,000
Speaker 6: But like what you just said is how you kind

1194
01:00:48,040 --> 01:00:48,560
Speaker 6: of get better.

1195
01:00:49,000 --> 01:00:52,800
Speaker 4: You got guys out here that's also evolving the game

1196
01:00:52,920 --> 01:00:54,440
Speaker 4: and getting better, like guys like.

1197
01:00:54,480 --> 01:00:55,960
Speaker 6: Ooohstick and evolved.

1198
01:00:56,640 --> 01:00:59,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm sitting back and I'm watching these guys and

1199
01:00:59,360 --> 01:01:01,400
Speaker 4: trying to steal the little shit that they doing.

1200
01:01:01,480 --> 01:01:01,919
Speaker 1: So long.

1201
01:01:02,280 --> 01:01:03,760
Speaker 6: I think that's how you get better. You just got

1202
01:01:03,840 --> 01:01:11,200
Speaker 6: to keep watching and learning from people. Also keep watching yourself.

1203
01:01:11,240 --> 01:01:14,360
Speaker 4: I think studying yourself is one of the underrated things

1204
01:01:14,400 --> 01:01:16,200
Speaker 4: when it comes to the Slater box. I think that's

1205
01:01:16,240 --> 01:01:19,280
Speaker 4: what it got my highest level studying where I went wrong,

1206
01:01:19,600 --> 01:01:21,920
Speaker 4: going back to watch my spring and watch my fight.

1207
01:01:21,960 --> 01:01:23,880
Speaker 4: When I watched my fight, I see one hundred things

1208
01:01:23,880 --> 01:01:25,720
Speaker 4: that I did wrong, even though the public felt like

1209
01:01:25,840 --> 01:01:26,560
Speaker 4: I did good.

1210
01:01:27,000 --> 01:01:29,560
Speaker 6: But for me, I saw one hundred different things that

1211
01:01:30,000 --> 01:01:31,440
Speaker 6: I can't wait to get back in the gym and

1212
01:01:31,520 --> 01:01:36,040
Speaker 6: work on. So that's my main goal, and I'm gonna

1213
01:01:36,120 --> 01:01:38,160
Speaker 6: keep you evolving the court.

1214
01:01:38,280 --> 01:01:40,200
Speaker 1: Do you think that as you start to get a

1215
01:01:40,240 --> 01:01:42,720
Speaker 1: little older, you start to get at a little more

1216
01:01:42,800 --> 01:01:45,360
Speaker 1: old man weight, You train a little harder, and you

1217
01:01:45,880 --> 01:01:48,000
Speaker 1: say I walk around at you know, probably one thirty

1218
01:01:48,040 --> 01:01:50,600
Speaker 1: eight and then you go to one to go to

1219
01:01:50,680 --> 01:01:53,600
Speaker 1: the one forties because do you feel you might have

1220
01:01:53,760 --> 01:01:56,200
Speaker 1: to move up and weight to get that bigger payday.

1221
01:01:56,280 --> 01:01:58,520
Speaker 1: I know Turkey, Ali Chic and Dada White is doing

1222
01:01:58,520 --> 01:02:01,920
Speaker 1: a great job. They're trying to a Hey, we want

1223
01:02:01,960 --> 01:02:04,520
Speaker 1: the big fights. We don't want nobody dunking nobody. You

1224
01:02:04,600 --> 01:02:06,720
Speaker 1: gotta belt, he got a belt, get in there and

1225
01:02:06,840 --> 01:02:08,920
Speaker 1: you take his belt and he take your belt. Do

1226
01:02:09,040 --> 01:02:11,560
Speaker 1: you feel you might have to move up once you

1227
01:02:11,720 --> 01:02:13,880
Speaker 1: fight a tank or you fight a Lamont, do you

1228
01:02:13,960 --> 01:02:15,760
Speaker 1: feel you might have to move up to get these

1229
01:02:15,840 --> 01:02:16,840
Speaker 1: even bigger pay days.

1230
01:02:19,360 --> 01:02:20,200
Speaker 3: I won't move up with.

1231
01:02:20,240 --> 01:02:22,840
Speaker 4: Certain guys, Like I'm not fighting guys that just super

1232
01:02:22,920 --> 01:02:25,120
Speaker 4: bigger than me. But like if it's a guy like

1233
01:02:25,240 --> 01:02:29,160
Speaker 4: Tia Femo's closer to the one forty weight class and

1234
01:02:29,200 --> 01:02:30,800
Speaker 4: the sage range, I will fight these guys.

1235
01:02:30,840 --> 01:02:33,520
Speaker 6: I don't try fighting the guys on that one forty.

1236
01:02:34,360 --> 01:02:36,240
Speaker 6: I'm just not getting the ring with people that's way

1237
01:02:36,400 --> 01:02:37,920
Speaker 6: bigger than me where it's like it don't.

1238
01:02:37,720 --> 01:02:39,840
Speaker 1: Know, they might wait one for it at the type

1239
01:02:39,880 --> 01:02:42,080
Speaker 1: of way, but they wore fifty five one sixty at

1240
01:02:42,120 --> 01:02:44,280
Speaker 1: the night of the fight. Hunh A lot of these guys.

1241
01:02:44,320 --> 01:02:46,480
Speaker 6: That's exactly what they do. They want to be one

1242
01:02:46,560 --> 01:02:50,080
Speaker 6: sixty five come fight night, and I'm want to match.

1243
01:02:51,520 --> 01:02:52,240
Speaker 1: Like that.

1244
01:02:52,280 --> 01:02:53,560
Speaker 6: Shit just don't be making sense.

1245
01:02:54,200 --> 01:02:56,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, it doesn't. And when you look at it, like

1246
01:02:56,280 --> 01:02:58,720
Speaker 1: you said about Floyd, I believe and a lot of

1247
01:02:59,400 --> 01:03:02,080
Speaker 1: not to take it. And Floyd had a supreme skill level,

1248
01:03:02,400 --> 01:03:05,680
Speaker 1: but Floyd thought that one forty seven for the large

1249
01:03:05,680 --> 01:03:07,520
Speaker 1: part of his career. Didn He ended up going up

1250
01:03:07,520 --> 01:03:10,200
Speaker 1: to one fifty four to take OSCARS belt. But Floyd

1251
01:03:10,280 --> 01:03:12,880
Speaker 1: walked around at one fifty one fifty one, so it

1252
01:03:13,040 --> 01:03:15,480
Speaker 1: wasn't nothing for him to like run a couple of

1253
01:03:15,560 --> 01:03:19,400
Speaker 1: miles two weeks. And Floyd's at one forty seven. He

1254
01:03:19,680 --> 01:03:22,800
Speaker 1: wasn't a big man. He wasn't one sixty five one

1255
01:03:23,000 --> 01:03:26,400
Speaker 1: seventy trying to drop down to one forty seven, taxing

1256
01:03:26,480 --> 01:03:31,400
Speaker 1: himself because he was such a smaller man. He lost nothing. Yeah,

1257
01:03:31,760 --> 01:03:32,200
Speaker 1: you know what I.

1258
01:03:32,280 --> 01:03:36,200
Speaker 4: Respecting about whom though when he fought them guys, he

1259
01:03:36,240 --> 01:03:39,000
Speaker 4: didn't put no rehydration clauses on them. He kind of

1260
01:03:39,080 --> 01:03:43,080
Speaker 4: allowed gods to feel comfortable enough to fight him at

1261
01:03:43,120 --> 01:03:45,760
Speaker 4: whatever wed class. Like if you watched Canelo oversus, Floyd

1262
01:03:46,120 --> 01:03:48,000
Speaker 4: Cannello was way bigger than Floyd.

1263
01:03:48,600 --> 01:03:48,800
Speaker 7: Yeah.

1264
01:03:48,920 --> 01:03:51,640
Speaker 4: Sure, but at the end of the day's skills do

1265
01:03:51,760 --> 01:03:54,200
Speaker 4: pay the bill. So I respect Floyd for a lot

1266
01:03:54,240 --> 01:03:56,040
Speaker 4: of shit that he didn't was for the boxing man.

1267
01:03:57,440 --> 01:03:59,479
Speaker 2: What funny thing about it, especially when you talk about

1268
01:03:59,480 --> 01:04:03,880
Speaker 2: the rehydration and claus and Floyd understood that. Okay, I'm

1269
01:04:03,920 --> 01:04:06,640
Speaker 2: not gonna put one in for Canelo, but I understand

1270
01:04:06,920 --> 01:04:10,960
Speaker 2: I'm gonna be able to outbox him, allow him, you know, rehydrate. Yah,

1271
01:04:11,240 --> 01:04:13,280
Speaker 2: put the waterway back on because you're going to be

1272
01:04:13,440 --> 01:04:15,520
Speaker 2: that much slower, which is why he was able to

1273
01:04:15,600 --> 01:04:18,600
Speaker 2: counter and hit hit Canelo at will. Obviously, people like

1274
01:04:18,680 --> 01:04:20,440
Speaker 2: to say, oh he was in this policy.

1275
01:04:20,520 --> 01:04:22,000
Speaker 3: He is in the same Canelo he is now.

1276
01:04:22,400 --> 01:04:25,760
Speaker 2: Listen, if they was to fight later on, like okay,

1277
01:04:25,800 --> 01:04:28,360
Speaker 2: no disrespect, fight now, it would be the same thing.

1278
01:04:29,200 --> 01:04:31,080
Speaker 3: Skills still, but Floyd fight.

1279
01:04:31,200 --> 01:04:33,840
Speaker 1: But no, he's so much bigger. He's fighting at one

1280
01:04:33,960 --> 01:04:34,560
Speaker 1: sixty eight.

1281
01:04:35,880 --> 01:04:37,120
Speaker 6: He might be too big right now.

1282
01:04:37,440 --> 01:04:39,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, but see here's the thing, Oh Joe, if he

1283
01:04:39,760 --> 01:04:42,160
Speaker 1: fight at one sixty eight, he taking advance in the

1284
01:04:42,240 --> 01:04:43,240
Speaker 1: ring at one eighty five.

1285
01:04:44,200 --> 01:04:48,800
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I'm saying from a skill standpoint, Oh yeah, yeah, yeah,

1286
01:04:49,520 --> 01:04:51,320
Speaker 2: coming behind it, and the fact that the fact that

1287
01:04:51,400 --> 01:04:53,080
Speaker 2: I just mentioned Canelo. I want to know what you

1288
01:04:53,160 --> 01:04:56,720
Speaker 2: think about our brother, Bud Crawford and Canelo. That fight

1289
01:04:56,880 --> 01:04:59,360
Speaker 2: happened in September. What you think of what you think

1290
01:04:59,400 --> 01:05:00,480
Speaker 2: about that buy the.

1291
01:05:00,520 --> 01:05:03,960
Speaker 4: Bad motherfucker man. I think it's gonna be hard for

1292
01:05:04,120 --> 01:05:07,200
Speaker 4: anybody to beat Budd Crawford. When Buddy Crawford is focused

1293
01:05:07,600 --> 01:05:11,560
Speaker 4: on his job. I think he's one of the greatest

1294
01:05:11,880 --> 01:05:13,919
Speaker 4: fighters that I have ever witnessed in my life.

1295
01:05:13,960 --> 01:05:16,920
Speaker 6: And I have seen him in the gym. I have

1296
01:05:17,080 --> 01:05:19,880
Speaker 6: seen him come fight night. This dude is just different.

1297
01:05:19,920 --> 01:05:22,560
Speaker 6: He's just he's not a normally normal boxer.

1298
01:05:22,880 --> 01:05:25,680
Speaker 1: He's not Bud the Dog for real.

1299
01:05:25,800 --> 01:05:25,960
Speaker 6: Bud.

1300
01:05:26,360 --> 01:05:29,200
Speaker 1: Bud got got a couple of screws loosing, Yeah, for sure.

1301
01:05:29,280 --> 01:05:31,800
Speaker 6: I have seen his scowls. Definitely get looseing.

1302
01:05:35,760 --> 01:05:36,120
Speaker 3: Buggy.

1303
01:05:37,360 --> 01:05:39,680
Speaker 1: Hey, oh Joe, you see the interview man, Buddy, And

1304
01:05:39,760 --> 01:05:42,400
Speaker 1: I said, Hey, I said, man, look here, Bad, I

1305
01:05:42,480 --> 01:05:44,400
Speaker 1: mess right to mess your shoulders up. People gonna be

1306
01:05:44,480 --> 01:05:46,720
Speaker 1: mad at me telling me I messed the Delo Bud

1307
01:05:46,880 --> 01:05:49,760
Speaker 1: Crawford fight up. Bad, I don't leave me alone.

1308
01:05:51,160 --> 01:05:53,560
Speaker 6: A nice little move many.

1309
01:05:53,680 --> 01:05:55,880
Speaker 1: Hey, Hey, sir, cool I had it because he thinks

1310
01:05:55,920 --> 01:05:57,640
Speaker 1: he teaches about them, and I rushed him and so

1311
01:05:57,760 --> 01:05:59,560
Speaker 1: I got him because you don't ain't. I can't let

1312
01:05:59,600 --> 01:06:02,320
Speaker 1: that man have no distance. Ha belumped up like Tommy

1313
01:06:02,360 --> 01:06:05,880
Speaker 1: Hearns had Barton. Yeah, I rushed to be closed the

1314
01:06:05,960 --> 01:06:07,520
Speaker 1: distance o't yoke. Yeah.

1315
01:06:08,480 --> 01:06:10,800
Speaker 3: Oh man, that's that's funny. That's funny.

1316
01:06:11,200 --> 01:06:13,280
Speaker 1: So what So what's next? What's next for you? Shkur?

1317
01:06:13,520 --> 01:06:15,400
Speaker 1: What what's next? You're gonna take you know, a couple

1318
01:06:15,400 --> 01:06:17,400
Speaker 1: of you got another fight before the end of the

1319
01:06:17,480 --> 01:06:17,919
Speaker 1: year out.

1320
01:06:18,160 --> 01:06:19,840
Speaker 6: Now I'm gonna take some time off, you know what.

1321
01:06:19,960 --> 01:06:20,320
Speaker 6: That fight.

1322
01:06:20,760 --> 01:06:23,920
Speaker 4: A lot of people don't know this, but I wanted

1323
01:06:23,960 --> 01:06:27,080
Speaker 4: that fight to be under the butt and Canelo undercart

1324
01:06:27,480 --> 01:06:34,960
Speaker 4: because I hurt my hands my last fight before that,

1325
01:06:35,520 --> 01:06:38,040
Speaker 4: and they kind of forced the fight on me. I

1326
01:06:38,200 --> 01:06:40,640
Speaker 4: just accepted whatever they forced at that time. Well, I

1327
01:06:40,720 --> 01:06:42,000
Speaker 4: just want to take a break for the rest of

1328
01:06:42,040 --> 01:06:44,440
Speaker 4: the year and come back fresh early next year on

1329
01:06:44,920 --> 01:06:45,200
Speaker 4: love my.

1330
01:06:45,280 --> 01:06:46,400
Speaker 6: Hands and coming and rest up.

1331
01:06:48,040 --> 01:06:50,440
Speaker 1: I like it. Let me ask you this, give me

1332
01:06:50,480 --> 01:06:53,040
Speaker 1: your top five boxes of all time. It doesn't matter

1333
01:06:53,280 --> 01:06:55,080
Speaker 1: weight class. I mean, if you want to, if you

1334
01:06:55,120 --> 01:06:58,800
Speaker 1: want to be specific the class lightweight, super lightweight, welter,

1335
01:06:59,040 --> 01:07:02,200
Speaker 1: you know, middles super middle whatever do you want? Junior middleweight?

1336
01:07:02,680 --> 01:07:05,480
Speaker 1: You know, well, you know whatever. Give me your top five.

1337
01:07:05,400 --> 01:07:07,560
Speaker 6: Boxers number one, Me.

1338
01:07:09,400 --> 01:07:21,040
Speaker 7: Okay, number two, Floyd okay, number three, Cornell okay, P four,

1339
01:07:22,560 --> 01:07:25,600
Speaker 7: andre Ward okay number five.

1340
01:07:25,800 --> 01:07:29,000
Speaker 1: But Crawford, I like it the first three. You like

1341
01:07:29,080 --> 01:07:31,800
Speaker 1: defensive fighters, huh for sure.

1342
01:07:31,840 --> 01:07:33,240
Speaker 6: That's that's the that's the goal.

1343
01:07:33,360 --> 01:07:36,160
Speaker 1: You know, you gotta gotta last year, did not get hit.

1344
01:07:36,360 --> 01:07:38,360
Speaker 4: You gotta last thing for you know, guys going to

1345
01:07:38,480 --> 01:07:41,640
Speaker 4: the hospital and they got brain dammits after the fighting.

1346
01:07:41,880 --> 01:07:45,240
Speaker 4: They talking for years to come. So I like the

1347
01:07:45,280 --> 01:07:47,000
Speaker 4: guys that's not talking for me. I like the guys

1348
01:07:47,080 --> 01:07:51,080
Speaker 4: that can speak properly to you guys, you guys regularly.

1349
01:07:51,880 --> 01:07:54,640
Speaker 3: Hey, speaking speaking of I'm glad andre Ward is in

1350
01:07:54,680 --> 01:07:56,480
Speaker 3: your top five, right. You know, I've been trying. I've

1351
01:07:56,480 --> 01:07:58,200
Speaker 3: been trying to fight Dre for a little minute.

1352
01:07:58,560 --> 01:07:59,880
Speaker 2: You know, you you think you think you can make

1353
01:07:59,920 --> 01:08:02,040
Speaker 2: that happened, to speed up, to expedite the process of

1354
01:08:02,160 --> 01:08:02,920
Speaker 2: us getting in the ring.

1355
01:08:03,320 --> 01:08:05,439
Speaker 6: Yeah, I could definitely make that happen, But I don't

1356
01:08:05,480 --> 01:08:06,320
Speaker 6: know if you want to do that.

1357
01:08:06,960 --> 01:08:08,560
Speaker 1: He don't I do.

1358
01:08:08,760 --> 01:08:11,080
Speaker 3: That's what you want to do, man, I do Hey,

1359
01:08:11,160 --> 01:08:13,160
Speaker 3: hey as shir cook you you my dog right. I

1360
01:08:13,200 --> 01:08:14,000
Speaker 3: hadn't been in the gym, but.

1361
01:08:15,640 --> 01:08:15,760
Speaker 4: I know.

1362
01:08:16,920 --> 01:08:18,320
Speaker 2: I listen, I know what you could do, and I've

1363
01:08:18,320 --> 01:08:21,080
Speaker 2: been I've been watching for a very long time and honestly,

1364
01:08:21,720 --> 01:08:22,440
Speaker 2: no disrespect.

1365
01:08:22,520 --> 01:08:24,559
Speaker 3: I love andre but I beat his ass.

1366
01:08:24,840 --> 01:08:25,000
Speaker 4: Man.

1367
01:08:25,080 --> 01:08:27,320
Speaker 6: Come on, you know that's andre Ward, bro.

1368
01:08:27,720 --> 01:08:29,280
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I know, I know, I

1369
01:08:29,360 --> 01:08:31,640
Speaker 1: know it is that may beat you right now with yo,

1370
01:08:31,800 --> 01:08:33,320
Speaker 1: he ain't been in the gym. He probably han't been

1371
01:08:33,360 --> 01:08:35,400
Speaker 1: in the gym in years. He tell your ass up

1372
01:08:35,439 --> 01:08:35,880
Speaker 1: right now.

1373
01:08:37,520 --> 01:08:39,639
Speaker 6: What like a couple of months ago, I just parted.

1374
01:08:40,960 --> 01:08:41,360
Speaker 3: Let him know.

1375
01:08:41,439 --> 01:08:43,320
Speaker 2: I'm ready, man, whatever you want to do, Hey, we

1376
01:08:43,400 --> 01:08:45,680
Speaker 2: can go. We can go four round six rounds. I mean,

1377
01:08:45,720 --> 01:08:47,040
Speaker 2: whatever you want to do. I make a light on

1378
01:08:47,120 --> 01:08:48,280
Speaker 2: himself because I'm in shaking.

1379
01:08:48,600 --> 01:08:51,160
Speaker 1: Why show up you'pe? I hope you're using sixteen hours gloves?

1380
01:08:51,560 --> 01:08:56,280
Speaker 6: Yeah, because yeah, doctor, we can use twenties.

1381
01:08:56,040 --> 01:08:56,519
Speaker 2: It no matter.

1382
01:08:56,800 --> 01:08:58,920
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. Yeah, but you need some pillows

1383
01:08:59,000 --> 01:09:01,000
Speaker 1: because he'll lump your ass up with them. Ten hours

1384
01:09:01,000 --> 01:09:02,160
Speaker 1: gloves and listen.

1385
01:09:02,120 --> 01:09:04,240
Speaker 3: I got dps like your cour you tripping man, I'm

1386
01:09:04,280 --> 01:09:05,240
Speaker 3: shoulder rolling everything.

1387
01:09:05,520 --> 01:09:09,080
Speaker 1: Hey, he's your core. Hey, get they get them training gloves,

1388
01:09:09,120 --> 01:09:12,280
Speaker 1: getting them winning training gloves and sixteen twenty ounces because

1389
01:09:12,400 --> 01:09:15,240
Speaker 1: anything up in ten ounces. Man, let me tear your

1390
01:09:15,280 --> 01:09:19,559
Speaker 1: hands up man with some air lambs or some rails gloves.

1391
01:09:19,920 --> 01:09:23,000
Speaker 1: Grant Man, you you done your heart.

1392
01:09:23,400 --> 01:09:24,760
Speaker 6: A lot harder than you think. Man.

1393
01:09:25,479 --> 01:09:26,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, I know, I know, I already know.

1394
01:09:26,920 --> 01:09:28,880
Speaker 2: I didn't listen. I didn't seen your spar before we

1395
01:09:28,960 --> 01:09:31,439
Speaker 2: had to fight. I forgot who was I went to

1396
01:09:31,479 --> 01:09:33,800
Speaker 2: one of the sparring sessions. I know you know, not

1397
01:09:34,040 --> 01:09:36,040
Speaker 2: bitter bitter look at this one here, man.

1398
01:09:36,600 --> 01:09:39,120
Speaker 1: Don't worry about it. Hey, oh Joe, you keep talking,

1399
01:09:39,320 --> 01:09:40,760
Speaker 1: then me and you might have to do this. You

1400
01:09:40,840 --> 01:09:42,080
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying on you. I don't want to

1401
01:09:42,080 --> 01:09:44,000
Speaker 1: have to do my part to like this course, but

1402
01:09:44,080 --> 01:09:45,400
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, I might have to do

1403
01:09:45,520 --> 01:09:46,320
Speaker 1: something bad to it.

1404
01:09:46,880 --> 01:09:50,680
Speaker 3: Listen. If you don't see me in my awards, I'm

1405
01:09:50,800 --> 01:09:52,479
Speaker 3: had to put your hand and I don't want. I

1406
01:09:52,520 --> 01:09:53,080
Speaker 3: don't want to hurt you.

1407
01:09:53,160 --> 01:09:55,680
Speaker 6: I want to verse you up. I ain't gonna lie.

1408
01:09:55,880 --> 01:09:59,599
Speaker 6: Got taverse you, man, Hey, I got tavers you man.

1409
01:10:01,040 --> 01:10:04,439
Speaker 1: Oh ojo to o Joe. He don't give me my

1410
01:10:04,560 --> 01:10:06,160
Speaker 1: he he don't see me my fifty two hundred.

1411
01:10:07,160 --> 01:10:09,880
Speaker 3: I thought only are you fin? I thought only fifty two.

1412
01:10:09,880 --> 01:10:11,639
Speaker 1: Nd now no, you only fifty nine hundred.

1413
01:10:13,920 --> 01:10:15,360
Speaker 3: I'm gonna see im, gonna see your money when you

1414
01:10:15,400 --> 01:10:16,280
Speaker 3: send me my awards.

1415
01:10:16,600 --> 01:10:19,679
Speaker 1: Nah nah nah, I'll tell you what. I will beat

1416
01:10:19,720 --> 01:10:24,360
Speaker 1: it at you. I will beat it at you. You

1417
01:10:24,439 --> 01:10:26,360
Speaker 1: won't give you my money. I'm gonna do you like

1418
01:10:26,600 --> 01:10:29,840
Speaker 1: I would do you like Stuart did, Brian. Where's my money?

1419
01:10:30,479 --> 01:10:32,040
Speaker 6: Where's from? I seen those?

1420
01:10:34,520 --> 01:10:40,160
Speaker 1: What's them? That's the club? Sha Shane ever Last blood wearing? Yeah,

1421
01:10:40,720 --> 01:10:44,479
Speaker 1: that's exactly. Yes, yes, Bud Wherever Last?

1422
01:10:46,360 --> 01:10:47,439
Speaker 3: Yeah, but you don't have bud?

1423
01:10:47,600 --> 01:10:49,439
Speaker 1: What what type of what type of glove you wear?

1424
01:10:49,680 --> 01:10:49,880
Speaker 1: Are she?

1425
01:10:50,040 --> 01:10:50,200
Speaker 4: Core?

1426
01:10:52,920 --> 01:10:55,360
Speaker 1: You were? Who? Rifle?

1427
01:10:56,120 --> 01:10:56,400
Speaker 3: Rifle?

1428
01:10:57,880 --> 01:11:00,639
Speaker 1: I ain't never heard of them, because anybody does anybody

1429
01:11:00,720 --> 01:11:01,639
Speaker 1: wear rays anymore?

1430
01:11:02,640 --> 01:11:04,720
Speaker 4: I just seen somebody in rays. I think it was

1431
01:11:04,760 --> 01:11:07,360
Speaker 4: Pay maybe Pay award them his last fight.

1432
01:11:08,960 --> 01:11:11,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, because I think you know, I think you know

1433
01:11:11,479 --> 01:11:17,519
Speaker 1: obviously Everlast grant a winning uh rais and you mentioned rifle.

1434
01:11:17,560 --> 01:11:18,960
Speaker 1: I've never heard of that. I've never heard of those

1435
01:11:18,960 --> 01:11:23,080
Speaker 1: gloves before. Oh Joe, these eight these right here cut.

1436
01:11:23,439 --> 01:11:23,960
Speaker 3: It don't matter.

1437
01:11:24,400 --> 01:11:27,960
Speaker 2: And listen, they cut for an object that's not moving.

1438
01:11:28,080 --> 01:11:29,800
Speaker 2: It's different when there's an object in front of you

1439
01:11:29,880 --> 01:11:30,400
Speaker 2: that's moving.

1440
01:11:38,000 --> 01:11:45,599
Speaker 1: Oh man, yeah, hey, King, take that jab out there.

1441
01:11:46,760 --> 01:11:48,160
Speaker 3: I'm gonna do. I'm gonna do you just how I'm

1442
01:11:48,160 --> 01:11:49,880
Speaker 3: gonna do all Tommy her and did Martin.

1443
01:11:55,880 --> 01:11:58,519
Speaker 1: I'll tell you what, yo, I box you for the gloves.

1444
01:11:58,920 --> 01:12:00,559
Speaker 1: If you beat me, you get gloves.

1445
01:12:01,680 --> 01:12:02,639
Speaker 3: I don't want them gloves.

1446
01:12:03,320 --> 01:12:04,400
Speaker 1: I want Jack.

1447
01:12:04,520 --> 01:12:08,559
Speaker 3: I want my dad though, I just want my awards.

1448
01:12:08,720 --> 01:12:10,840
Speaker 1: So you, hey, you gotta snap that thing out there

1449
01:12:10,920 --> 01:12:13,240
Speaker 1: like a last See. Some people use that jab as

1450
01:12:13,280 --> 01:12:15,640
Speaker 1: a finder. They ain't trying to do no damage. They

1451
01:12:15,840 --> 01:12:17,760
Speaker 1: just trying to see. Okay, how far then I can

1452
01:12:17,840 --> 01:12:20,080
Speaker 1: throw this right? But see, I'm trying to snap that thing,

1453
01:12:20,240 --> 01:12:23,720
Speaker 1: pam like Leonard Lewis. No, Leonary Lewis had a nice jam.

1454
01:12:24,479 --> 01:12:26,240
Speaker 1: Larry Holmes had jam.

1455
01:12:27,680 --> 01:12:30,000
Speaker 6: What I want to see your jab though, let me

1456
01:12:30,040 --> 01:12:30,919
Speaker 6: see your jaz.

1457
01:12:31,720 --> 01:12:31,960
Speaker 1: Are you.

1458
01:12:34,920 --> 01:12:35,280
Speaker 3: That jab?

1459
01:12:38,600 --> 01:12:39,320
Speaker 6: Quit with that thing?

1460
01:12:39,920 --> 01:12:41,320
Speaker 1: Now? Quick with that thing? You court.

1461
01:12:43,920 --> 01:12:45,559
Speaker 6: Hey, Hey, I'm.

1462
01:12:45,439 --> 01:12:47,880
Speaker 3: Finna, I'm finna paradadic. Come right back with something.

1463
01:12:47,920 --> 01:12:51,000
Speaker 1: Man, Oh I know, hey, I done saw you, I

1464
01:12:51,280 --> 01:12:54,400
Speaker 1: saw you, yo. Reflexes and his fancy you think now

1465
01:12:55,720 --> 01:12:57,680
Speaker 1: fast no no no no no no no no no

1466
01:12:57,760 --> 01:12:57,960
Speaker 1: no no no.

1467
01:12:58,720 --> 01:12:59,680
Speaker 3: See this is the funny thing.

1468
01:13:00,240 --> 01:13:02,639
Speaker 2: If everybody want to go back to when I fought

1469
01:13:03,000 --> 01:13:06,840
Speaker 2: my young bull Brian Maxwell in the ring, that's different now.

1470
01:13:06,840 --> 01:13:07,519
Speaker 3: You gotta understand.

1471
01:13:07,520 --> 01:13:09,840
Speaker 2: I didn't been in the ring now five years after that,

1472
01:13:10,040 --> 01:13:12,000
Speaker 2: so I look, I look nothing like that now.

1473
01:13:12,320 --> 01:13:16,800
Speaker 1: But the thing and your core you could take Sparring

1474
01:13:17,280 --> 01:13:20,479
Speaker 1: is different than actually fighting, and you got to fight.

1475
01:13:20,720 --> 01:13:23,240
Speaker 1: It's just like track and field. You could practice all

1476
01:13:23,280 --> 01:13:25,479
Speaker 1: you want to, but you gotta get racist under your belt.

1477
01:13:25,720 --> 01:13:28,840
Speaker 1: You gotta get in ring. You gotta get rounds and team,

1478
01:13:29,720 --> 01:13:32,840
Speaker 1: not all that speedbag and all that mints and stuff. Nah,

1479
01:13:33,240 --> 01:13:36,000
Speaker 1: you ain't did that. I know.

1480
01:13:36,240 --> 01:13:39,519
Speaker 3: I know one thing what I got two people on

1481
01:13:39,600 --> 01:13:40,200
Speaker 3: my hit list.

1482
01:13:40,720 --> 01:13:42,040
Speaker 1: Oh James Harrison.

1483
01:13:42,240 --> 01:13:45,400
Speaker 2: James Harrison, I'm gonna beat his ass, Andre Warfen to

1484
01:13:45,439 --> 01:13:48,280
Speaker 2: get his work and anybody else that won't smoke after that.

1485
01:13:48,360 --> 01:13:51,160
Speaker 3: Matter of fact, your core you could get it too, Damn.

1486
01:13:51,280 --> 01:13:54,000
Speaker 6: You know I ain't gonna lie. I already told you this, la.

1487
01:13:54,160 --> 01:13:57,640
Speaker 6: Someone saw you. Don't do it to yourself, bro, do

1488
01:13:57,800 --> 01:13:59,679
Speaker 6: it to it. Don't do it to yourself.

1489
01:14:00,680 --> 01:14:02,240
Speaker 1: Give my fifty nine hundred out of it.

1490
01:14:02,840 --> 01:14:05,840
Speaker 2: I'm telling you this, Shy, whenever you hey, whenever you

1491
01:14:05,920 --> 01:14:07,840
Speaker 2: want to get back in the gym, let me know.

1492
01:14:07,880 --> 01:14:10,519
Speaker 6: How you're gonna get me. How how many rounds you're

1493
01:14:10,520 --> 01:14:10,920
Speaker 6: gonna get me.

1494
01:14:11,720 --> 01:14:13,560
Speaker 3: I can't go past eight, I give you.

1495
01:14:13,600 --> 01:14:16,719
Speaker 2: I give a strong eight four minutes, four minute around

1496
01:14:16,760 --> 01:14:17,439
Speaker 2: thirty second rest.

1497
01:14:18,320 --> 01:14:20,240
Speaker 6: I'm betting you ain't making it eight rounds.

1498
01:14:21,160 --> 01:14:24,640
Speaker 1: I bet he ate either eight four minute rounds with

1499
01:14:24,800 --> 01:14:28,760
Speaker 1: thirty round at that kind of cardio, Bro, not forty

1500
01:14:28,800 --> 01:14:30,400
Speaker 1: six in the past four.

1501
01:14:30,479 --> 01:14:33,799
Speaker 6: Yeah, you're gonna tell me what I'm dude, you ain't going.

1502
01:14:33,720 --> 01:14:33,960
Speaker 7: Out with.

1503
01:14:35,920 --> 01:14:39,040
Speaker 2: I'm home to my affiliate with boots. That's that's what

1504
01:14:39,120 --> 01:14:40,960
Speaker 2: we had to do. That's what boat you have me doing.

1505
01:14:41,240 --> 01:14:42,599
Speaker 6: Far from eight four minute rounds.

1506
01:14:43,520 --> 01:14:45,439
Speaker 3: No, I only got four in. I only did, Frank.

1507
01:14:45,640 --> 01:14:48,320
Speaker 6: That's why I'm trying to tell you this ain't no

1508
01:14:48,360 --> 01:14:51,240
Speaker 6: way gonna ate with me. I'm telling you get it.

1509
01:14:51,720 --> 01:14:54,160
Speaker 1: Get my fifty nine hundred dollars out of the ass too.

1510
01:14:54,280 --> 01:14:55,240
Speaker 1: Your cool while you add.

1511
01:14:55,120 --> 01:14:58,760
Speaker 3: It, you think shits sweet? Huh No, you can't go

1512
01:14:58,960 --> 01:14:59,519
Speaker 3: eight with me?

1513
01:14:59,680 --> 01:15:03,720
Speaker 1: Bro, different all right, hey, and don't hit him, don't

1514
01:15:03,760 --> 01:15:05,400
Speaker 1: hit him. Don't hit him in his face because I

1515
01:15:05,479 --> 01:15:06,880
Speaker 1: need his eyes. I need to be able to read

1516
01:15:06,920 --> 01:15:08,800
Speaker 1: the prompter. But just tear his body up.

1517
01:15:09,479 --> 01:15:12,639
Speaker 6: I tell you, I'm not gonna hit him in the fish.

1518
01:15:13,080 --> 01:15:14,280
Speaker 6: I'm gonna stretch his body.

1519
01:15:15,280 --> 01:15:17,920
Speaker 1: Oh that's what I do, making making peel on himself.

1520
01:15:19,040 --> 01:15:19,479
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be.

1521
01:15:19,520 --> 01:15:19,920
Speaker 3: I'm gonna be.

1522
01:15:20,439 --> 01:15:20,800
Speaker 6: I'm ready.

1523
01:15:20,840 --> 01:15:21,640
Speaker 3: I'm ready for all that.

1524
01:15:21,760 --> 01:15:26,439
Speaker 6: Many to the side, I'm gonna write to the side.

1525
01:15:27,040 --> 01:15:28,479
Speaker 1: That's what I want. That's what I like to see.

1526
01:15:28,680 --> 01:15:30,000
Speaker 1: That's what I like to see. Your court, that's what

1527
01:15:30,040 --> 01:15:32,840
Speaker 1: I'm talking about. Oh, you're gonna have depends on one

1528
01:15:32,840 --> 01:15:33,439
Speaker 1: of his trunks.

1529
01:15:40,400 --> 01:15:43,720
Speaker 2: Oh many, but all jokes inside, man, you put on

1530
01:15:43,800 --> 01:15:45,160
Speaker 2: an f and boxing clinic.

1531
01:15:45,280 --> 01:15:46,519
Speaker 1: Man, was amazing.

1532
01:15:47,160 --> 01:15:49,960
Speaker 2: Congratulations on that, man and shutting up all these doubters

1533
01:15:50,040 --> 01:15:52,080
Speaker 2: and all of the haters. Not they're gonna find something

1534
01:15:52,120 --> 01:15:53,840
Speaker 2: else to come up with. They're gonna find something else

1535
01:15:53,880 --> 01:15:55,720
Speaker 2: to come up with. And you're gonna probably gonna answer

1536
01:15:55,760 --> 01:15:56,439
Speaker 2: those questions too.

1537
01:15:56,520 --> 01:15:56,680
Speaker 7: Man.

1538
01:15:56,680 --> 01:15:59,240
Speaker 2: I just want to tell you congratulations on one hell

1539
01:15:59,280 --> 01:16:01,160
Speaker 2: of a goddamn and career so far.

1540
01:16:01,439 --> 01:16:03,040
Speaker 6: I appreciate y'all. I appreciate y'all.

1541
01:16:03,080 --> 01:16:03,240
Speaker 7: Man.

1542
01:16:03,800 --> 01:16:07,439
Speaker 1: Man, Thanks for your time. Man, congratulations, enjoy the rest

1543
01:16:07,479 --> 01:16:09,519
Speaker 1: of the year off. Hey, we'll see you. We'll see

1544
01:16:09,560 --> 01:16:12,920
Speaker 1: your early guests early in twenty twenty six and come

1545
01:16:13,000 --> 01:16:14,640
Speaker 1: back and join us when you got some time. Bro,

1546
01:16:14,720 --> 01:16:15,240
Speaker 1: appreciate you.

1547
01:16:15,400 --> 01:16:17,200
Speaker 6: I appreciate you too, all right, Bro?

1548
01:16:17,360 --> 01:16:23,519
Speaker 1: How we go with oh Joe? Lead people alone?

1549
01:16:23,640 --> 01:16:23,800
Speaker 6: Man?

1550
01:16:23,960 --> 01:16:24,280
Speaker 1: Damn?

1551
01:16:25,280 --> 01:16:27,960
Speaker 3: Oh no, Hey, you got to make sure people on

1552
01:16:28,040 --> 01:16:30,439
Speaker 3: the on they p's and q's. You just never know,

1553
01:16:30,960 --> 01:16:34,120
Speaker 3: you never know. So sometimes this is what you gotta do.

1554
01:16:34,400 --> 01:16:37,240
Speaker 2: Now we have guests on the show, right, yes, you

1555
01:16:37,280 --> 01:16:40,240
Speaker 2: gotta you gotta check the guest temperature. Sometimes you gotta

1556
01:16:40,320 --> 01:16:41,800
Speaker 2: check the guest temperature to see where they you know,

1557
01:16:41,840 --> 01:16:42,519
Speaker 2: see where they at.

1558
01:16:42,800 --> 01:16:44,800
Speaker 3: So if you look at Shakura's eyes, you can see

1559
01:16:45,080 --> 01:16:46,719
Speaker 3: he was a little scared. He was a little nervous

1560
01:16:47,080 --> 01:16:48,960
Speaker 3: because you know, you know, he don't we don't.

1561
01:16:49,040 --> 01:16:50,920
Speaker 2: Hey, now, you know, I trained with Shaku for about

1562
01:16:50,960 --> 01:16:53,519
Speaker 2: a week, you know, so we've been together in the ring,

1563
01:16:53,600 --> 01:16:56,080
Speaker 2: and he he got an opportunity to see, for god damn,

1564
01:16:56,439 --> 01:16:58,759
Speaker 2: that boy feeding nice. And then you know, my defense

1565
01:16:58,920 --> 01:17:01,600
Speaker 2: was like that we were shadow boxing. I was like,

1566
01:17:01,720 --> 01:17:04,080
Speaker 2: you know, so he got a good understanding.

1567
01:17:04,160 --> 01:17:09,200
Speaker 1: But yeah, yeah, yeah, the thing is people, like I said,

1568
01:17:09,280 --> 01:17:12,800
Speaker 1: with people that's in their profession that's really good at it.

1569
01:17:13,120 --> 01:17:14,559
Speaker 1: You got to see them in their profession. You got

1570
01:17:14,640 --> 01:17:15,679
Speaker 1: to see them in their habitat.

1571
01:17:16,120 --> 01:17:16,920
Speaker 3: You got to see them here.

1572
01:17:17,000 --> 01:17:17,920
Speaker 1: You good appreciation.

1573
01:17:20,280 --> 01:17:22,680
Speaker 3: You got to see them close. I want him in.

1574
01:17:22,760 --> 01:17:26,560
Speaker 2: Bud I had to do something with ESPN right and

1575
01:17:26,760 --> 01:17:29,960
Speaker 2: they were training at the USC Gym in Vegas. That

1576
01:17:30,120 --> 01:17:35,320
Speaker 2: God damn bud Man, let me take me less Cha

1577
01:17:35,400 --> 01:17:39,960
Speaker 2: Creu was doing doing maybe six rounds with somebody who

1578
01:17:39,960 --> 01:17:46,679
Speaker 2: was getting ready for a fight. It was a chess match.

1579
01:17:47,920 --> 01:17:49,559
Speaker 2: It was a chess match, and you could just see

1580
01:17:49,640 --> 01:17:52,640
Speaker 2: the artwork of the sweet science unfold right before you.

1581
01:17:52,760 --> 01:17:55,879
Speaker 2: If you understand what you're watching, it's not just throwing punches,

1582
01:17:56,240 --> 01:17:56,400
Speaker 2: you know.

1583
01:17:56,600 --> 01:17:59,160
Speaker 1: No, it was beautiful.

1584
01:17:59,400 --> 01:18:02,880
Speaker 2: It was beautiful to watch, man. It just and you

1585
01:18:03,000 --> 01:18:05,120
Speaker 2: don't have an appreciation for it until you see it

1586
01:18:05,200 --> 01:18:08,000
Speaker 2: up close. It's one thing to watch boxing on TV. Yeah,

1587
01:18:08,320 --> 01:18:09,880
Speaker 2: it's one thing to watch it when you go to

1588
01:18:09,960 --> 01:18:12,760
Speaker 2: a fight, ah, But to see it when they're in

1589
01:18:12,880 --> 01:18:16,280
Speaker 2: training and to see the formula in which they worked

1590
01:18:16,320 --> 01:18:18,880
Speaker 2: on unfold in real time in the ring.

1591
01:18:19,000 --> 01:18:21,320
Speaker 1: But you can actually see them, oh yoe. Without seeing them.

1592
01:18:21,360 --> 01:18:24,720
Speaker 1: You can see them thinking, Oh that's what's the major part.

1593
01:18:24,840 --> 01:18:28,360
Speaker 1: You actually see a guy thinking and he know what

1594
01:18:28,560 --> 01:18:30,920
Speaker 1: I threw this. The only thing he can come back

1595
01:18:30,960 --> 01:18:35,320
Speaker 1: with is that damn I catch it. Oh he will

1596
01:18:35,360 --> 01:18:40,400
Speaker 1: come here. Oh there. I was like, damn, bro you hey.

1597
01:18:41,280 --> 01:18:43,280
Speaker 2: And you know what's so funny too, is when it

1598
01:18:43,320 --> 01:18:46,960
Speaker 2: comes to boxes or boxes that are thinkers and they

1599
01:18:47,040 --> 01:18:51,240
Speaker 2: set traps. Oh yeah, round one they'll set a trap,

1600
01:18:51,760 --> 01:18:55,639
Speaker 2: and round two and won't and wait and won't try

1601
01:18:55,680 --> 01:18:57,000
Speaker 2: to ex you what they.

1602
01:18:57,080 --> 01:18:59,599
Speaker 3: Was trapping until round seven and eight and they.

1603
01:18:59,600 --> 01:19:01,840
Speaker 2: Know what this Okay, I know we're gonna throw that

1604
01:19:02,560 --> 01:19:04,920
Speaker 2: when it's coming. If I faint, I know we're gonna

1605
01:19:04,920 --> 01:19:07,360
Speaker 2: do It's it's just a chess match.

1606
01:19:07,400 --> 01:19:08,040
Speaker 3: That's why I said.

1607
01:19:08,479 --> 01:19:12,080
Speaker 2: I think, to me, the most exciting fight for those

1608
01:19:12,160 --> 01:19:14,760
Speaker 2: that are not just casual boxers that love and enjoy

1609
01:19:14,800 --> 01:19:17,719
Speaker 2: the street science would be Lamar Roach and Shakur Stevenson.

1610
01:19:18,120 --> 01:19:21,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, because thousand which they fight. I thought that would

1611
01:19:21,240 --> 01:19:21,759
Speaker 3: be beautiful.

1612
01:19:22,240 --> 01:19:27,040
Speaker 1: Man. I was watching the old thing of Floyd and

1613
01:19:27,080 --> 01:19:30,439
Speaker 1: Corrals and how he was. Floyd kept, you know, he's

1614
01:19:30,960 --> 01:19:35,639
Speaker 1: with the jab, and then he thought that he fainted

1615
01:19:35,680 --> 01:19:37,400
Speaker 1: with the jab and caught it with a check hook.

1616
01:19:41,000 --> 01:19:44,000
Speaker 3: Goddamn Digo. Man Diego was nice man. Rest in peace.