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Speaker 1: The volume. This is straight Fire with Jason McIntyre. What

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Speaker 1: is up? Straight firefam, It's me Jason McIntyre, Straight Fire

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Speaker 1: for for Friday, May twenty sixth, Folks, the NBA Conference Finals.

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Speaker 1: Heat Celtics does not want to end. And as everybody knows,

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Speaker 1: I'm going on vacation tomorrow, I will be in Communicado,

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Speaker 1: and by that I mean I won't be on social

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Speaker 1: media at all. I probably won't be watching sports, and

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Speaker 1: I should say no social media at all. Listen, I

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Speaker 1: like Instagram, don't really care that much for Twitter, so

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Speaker 1: I won't even open that app. But because Heat Celtics

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Speaker 1: now is going to Game six, I have to make

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Speaker 1: a business decision. Do I interrupt vacation, figure out what

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Speaker 1: time I'm gonna be in another country, figure out what

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Speaker 1: time the game is on Saturday night and watch it? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I don't know. Celtics go bonkers from deep in Game five.

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Speaker 1: They go sixteen of thirty nine. Now, I've got the

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Speaker 1: numbers here. If you look at Boston's shooting from three

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Speaker 1: when they are forty percent are better. They are now

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Speaker 1: thirty eight and two this season, Boston thirty eight and

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Speaker 1: two when they shoot forty percent or better. It just

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Speaker 1: so happens. They've had two games now forty percent or better.

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Speaker 1: They were not showing up from deep earlier in the series.

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Speaker 1: If you're Miami, are you worried? Not if you ask

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Speaker 1: Jimmy Butler, who said afterward, we will win this series.

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Speaker 1: And as soon as I heard that quote, I told Rob,

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Speaker 1: I was like, Hey, this sounds like a dude who's

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Speaker 1: not very certain in the locker room. Maybe the doubt

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Speaker 1: is starting to creep in. Could we blow this? You

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Speaker 1: know that Gabe Vincent's out, Tyler Hero is not coming

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Speaker 1: back yet, Boston's hitting threes, they've kind of figured out

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Speaker 1: the chess match, and his doubts starting to creep into

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Speaker 1: the Miami locker room. The good news is they had

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Speaker 1: to go home Saturday and try try to put away Boston.

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Speaker 1: The problem is they didn't leave for one second in

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Speaker 1: Game five, not one. Miami fell behind early and kept

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Speaker 1: falling behind, down fifteen at the end of the first quarter,

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Speaker 1: never was single digits the rest of the way. It

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Speaker 1: was kind of a snoozer. My guy Jason Tatum twenty one,

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Speaker 1: eleven and eight did not shoot a grete from deep,

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Speaker 1: but you know who did Derek White Baby Derek White

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Speaker 1: twenty four points, six threes, Marcus Smart twenty three points,

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Speaker 1: four threes. Here's the interesting thing. Jimmy Butler only logged

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Speaker 1: thirty four minutes, so he should be fresh. Bam outabayo

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Speaker 1: thirty two minutes, he as well should be fresh. The

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Speaker 1: problem is if you don't get vincent. You saw how

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Speaker 1: short that bench was. They had to put what's his name?

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Speaker 1: The kid high Smith, the guy who I said, Heywood

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Speaker 1: I guess we didn't have video when we were doing

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Speaker 1: the podcast the last two plus years. But you guys

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Speaker 1: don't have gambling on college basketball throughout the season. I've

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Speaker 1: never heard of Haywood Highsmith of the Miami Heat. He

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Speaker 1: went to something called Willing Jesuit. This is his second

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Speaker 1: season and he's twenty six years old. So by you

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Speaker 1: know my math there. It's late at night as we're

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Speaker 1: recording this, after the Heat got their doors blown off.

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Speaker 1: So Haywod high Smith was twenty four in college. Oh interesting,

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Speaker 1: I never heard of the guy I had to play

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Speaker 1: thirty some odd minutes. And now Rob, we're looking at

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Speaker 1: a series where it's like, oh, well, if Boston is

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Speaker 1: all of a sudden hitting threes, are they going to

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Speaker 1: be the second team from Boston to come back down

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Speaker 1: from three and win a series. Nobody's ever done it

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Speaker 1: in NBA history. Listen, if they get Game six, you

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Speaker 1: know they're going to be favored by at least seven

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Speaker 1: or more in Game seven. They are currently I can't

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Speaker 1: believe this. They open as three point favorites. It was

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Speaker 1: early money showing on the Heat for Game six Saturday

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Speaker 1: night in South Beach. I don't know, Rob, this makes

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Speaker 1: me long badly for the Lakers and Nuggets just still

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Speaker 1: be going on this series like it just doesn't have

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Speaker 1: the juice. This game was a blowout for three quarters.

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Speaker 1: It was a snooze fest. I don't know. At this point,

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Speaker 1: I'm starting to look at the prospects of the Celtics,

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Speaker 2: A little bit? Yeah? I mean I may not be

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Speaker 2: the Miami Heat will get this done, just because you know,

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Speaker 2: one hundred and fiftyeth tried one hundred and fifty of failed.

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Speaker 2: Nobody comes back from down three zero in the NBA.

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Speaker 2: It's just it is what it is. I will say

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Speaker 2: after having watched last night's game, though, is the Boston Celtics,

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Speaker 2: when they are locked in and focused as they have

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Speaker 2: they can do whatever they want to when they're locked in.

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Speaker 2: And it's part of what makes them so damn frustrating,

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Speaker 2: and it's part of the reason why I'm picking Miami

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Speaker 2: to eventually, whether it's in six or seven, to close

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Speaker 1: You think seven in Boston.

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Speaker 2: Maybe, sure, maybe, because Boston has shown us repeatedly over

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Speaker 2: the last few seasons, this group, specifically, that they trick

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Speaker 2: away games better than anybody in the NBA. This should

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Speaker 2: not have gotten to three to zero were it not

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Speaker 2: for a series of mental blunders through Games one and two,

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Speaker 2: you know, Jalen Brown for getting out of shoot for

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Speaker 2: happens to them all the time. And it's why, even

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Speaker 2: as a Laker fan and as Celtics hater, I get

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Speaker 2: frustrated watching Boston play. So I can imagine how Celtics

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Speaker 2: saw in game what is that now? Game five is

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Speaker 2: in there. They just don't tap into it all the time,

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Speaker 2: and they don't seem to play well until their backs

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Speaker 1: Remember, they don't tap in until they absolutely have to.

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Speaker 1: Like what was it Game six in Philly? I think

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Speaker 1: and then they you know, blow out in Game seven,

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Speaker 1: the scary thing for me, Rob if you're looking at

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Speaker 1: We were playing above the rim for like three four weeks.

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Speaker 1: Now you have to kind of wonder, like water finds

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Speaker 1: its level, is that gonna happen here to the heat.

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Speaker 1: The only guy I think that can keep them from

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Speaker 1: Butler ten shots. I think that's a few as he's

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Speaker 1: actually still in play. Somehow, the player points pool did

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Speaker 1: not go well for me. This Boston series has imploded because,

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Speaker 1: and I know you don't care, but essentially, for a while,

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Speaker 1: five or six games, and now Brogden got eight minutes

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Speaker 1: for some reason. I don't know what's up with that.

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Speaker 1: I guess rob, I would ask from a juice interest perspective,

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Speaker 1: the league has to be rooting for Boston. I mean, listen,

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Speaker 1: Everybody in their mom had Joe Missoula fired after one year.

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Speaker 1: He wins game four, Well, maybe you gotta stay of execution, Rob,

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Speaker 1: it the buzzer on a Jimmy Butler shot in game six.

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Speaker 1: Does Mossoula get fired? I don't know. You're fighting back

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Speaker 1: Missoula ain't getting fired anymore. Rob, I don't know. I

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Speaker 1: know now, if they get blasted by twenty five in

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Speaker 1: game six, I could see a case where he's gone.

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Speaker 2: Rob, I'll tell you what if he ends up keeping

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Speaker 2: his job, you know, assume that they lose, because that's

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Speaker 2: the only time where it would become a controversy. It

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Speaker 2: won't be for anything that he's done. In my opinion,

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Speaker 2: it'll be because Jason Tatum has saved his job. Like

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Speaker 2: I know, everyone talks about playoff Jimmy, and rightfully so

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Speaker 2: right he's been awesome. Elimination Tatum or close out game Tatum,

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Speaker 2: In the last two postseasons and elimination games, he's averaging

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Speaker 2: thirty points basically nine rebound, six assists, forty eight percent

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Speaker 2: you would consider for him to be an off nine

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Speaker 2: in those situations. To your point, twenty one eleven and

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Speaker 2: I think it may give Brad Stevens and the Celtics

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Speaker 1: There were some injuries, nothing major, And that's what NBA

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Speaker 1: like not fun now fun to play, but watching it's

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Speaker 1: just brutal, the fouls, the physical nature. Adams was right,

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Speaker 1: thing that the nineties era. And we talked about this

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Speaker 1: they I think Charlotte, I mean they had a bunch

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Speaker 1: Like go look at those rosters. It's bad basketball. Like

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Speaker 1: if you started, Rob, if they added two teams to

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Speaker 1: the league is deeper than it's ever been, and it's

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Speaker 1: like an offensive skill league. Can you score? Can you

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Speaker 1: Jordan Poole get to the bucket? Can you get off

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Speaker 1: Now one through four, you basically have to be able

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Speaker 1: you know, Charles Oakley, Anthony Mason. I'm not gonna just

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Speaker 1: Mace had a decent outside shot. Charles Oakley, who was

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Speaker 1: in Indiana, Like the typical nineties power forward could not shoot,

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Speaker 1: barely could dribble like it was just not great basketball.

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Speaker 1: And Rob, I don't know why people are so outraged

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Speaker 1: gimme shooting. The current NBA is way better. It's not

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Speaker 1: even close. All right. That wraps it for Celtics Heat

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Speaker 1: Game five, another blood bath. Miami's in trouble, folks. I

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Speaker 1: don't have an official pick for Game six because this

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Speaker 1: series has kind of broke me. I don't understand it.

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Speaker 1: I don't understand Boston blew the first two games. I

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Speaker 1: don't understand how Boston no showed in Game three. I'm

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Speaker 1: a little surprised Boston finally solved the fourth quarter in

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Speaker 1: Game four and then Game five, Miami non competitive and

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Speaker 1: two years. So what's gonna happen in Game six? Like,

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Speaker 1: just roll the dice and maybe you'll get snake eyes

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Speaker 1: and that'll give you the answer. But I mean, I

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Speaker 1: certainly am not betting this game. I would consider this

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Speaker 1: given the Jimmy Butler comments. A Jimmy Butler game where

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Speaker 1: he shows up and doesn't let Miami lose, because if

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Speaker 1: you know, it goes back to Boston for Game seven.

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Speaker 1: Not great Miami. But I will point this out either way,

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Speaker 1: the Denver Nuggets are going to be my pick in

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Speaker 1: the NBA Finals. I don't care who they face. So

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Speaker 1: we will pick up the podcast. I believe next Thursday

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Speaker 1: morning we'll be back, ready, fresh, ready to go, ready

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Speaker 1: to talk to NBA Finals, Start talking NBA free agency, everybody,

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Speaker 1: have a safe holiday weekend. Talk to you next week.