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Speaker 1: This is um very great interview for us because guys
Speaker 1: very relevant to the times is happening right now. Right
Speaker 1: back to the South and this is the first South
Speaker 1: only second well no, but it's first South only because
Speaker 1: so uh, I'm proud of this episode. I knew the
Speaker 1: guy since he was Titty Boy, knew the guy even
Speaker 1: before that. And um, but before we get to the
Speaker 1: two change episode, I wanted to recap real quick the
Speaker 1: other two episodes that we didn't get a chance to
Speaker 1: recap Cares one first. Um, I know a lot of
Speaker 1: people are giving him backlash for what transpired, and what
Speaker 1: people need to know is like I felt, explain it
Speaker 1: a little bit for people. Well, you know, I asked
Speaker 1: Caress the question and he answered it, but it wasn't
Speaker 1: the answer that people wanted about the band body thing,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. And in all due respect
Speaker 1: to care Rests one, I can't blame it on the
Speaker 1: alcohol or anything like that. I kind of changed the subject,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying because the subject got uncomfortable
Speaker 1: for me. I felt, I feel like everybody else feels like, Um,
Speaker 1: we wanted, we wanted a better answer, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. We didn't get the better answer, and I
Speaker 1: didn't want to sit there and just you know, keep
Speaker 1: talking about this. You know what I'm saying. I love
Speaker 1: care Arrests, you know what I'm saying. So I just
Speaker 1: wanted to move on, you know what I mean. So
Speaker 1: I gotta give him his prost because it wasn't You know,
Speaker 1: we're in control of these interviews, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I'm an expert in changing the subject when we don't
Speaker 1: want to uh dwell on something. So I just want
Speaker 1: people to know that, you know, in his respect, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean. And everybody knows. The fans listeners
Speaker 1: know we cut people off right and we're not political
Speaker 1: one but this is like yeah, so um, with that
Speaker 1: being said, also, I want to touch you. On the
Speaker 1: myth Bleak episode, I thought, um, it got great responses,
Speaker 1: and you know what I'm saying, Dame Dash. Uh, shout
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Speaker 1: going on? We need you on the show, Deely. We
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Speaker 1: Jones and let him know the drink chick he was
Speaker 1: already down. Yeah, he's already down. But you know, I
Speaker 1: like the people like um, I like people to like
Speaker 1: to feel like it's not it's not just us who
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Speaker 1: you know what I mean, It's a public show. And
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Speaker 1: People have been asking me. People been asking me. They've
Speaker 1: been saying, what the funk are you doing with this
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Speaker 1: don't want to pick it up now because then you'll
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Speaker 1: He was leaned out. It had a great first time
Speaker 1: I've seen lean like. I guess he knew it was
Speaker 1: the Drink Champs and he said, many gonna give the lead.
Speaker 1: I was trying to get take shots everything. It didn't
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Speaker 1: who's not a champagne guy poured a champagne because they
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Speaker 1: J e fn Hey hand saying green, I hope your
Speaker 1: savings your boy and R d j e f N
Speaker 1: and this Drink Chap motherfucking podcast. And I Got. I
Speaker 1: don't know if he's ever been called this. I got
Speaker 1: who I think is the new King of the South.
Speaker 1: He's been so consecutive. He's been staying in your face.
Speaker 1: He's been stopping you on features, he's been stomping you.
Speaker 1: He's the only person that figured out did we've been
Speaker 1: spending so much money on Christmas? He figured out how
Speaker 1: to get rich for Christmas. No, motherfucking my friend. I
Speaker 1: know him since he had a different name, but I'm
Speaker 1: calling him I call I don't call him that in
Speaker 1: his face, don't call him in space. The new King
Speaker 1: of the South. To me, that's my personal opinion. Motherfucking
Speaker 1: to change in the middle of to change. Man. I'm
Speaker 1: so honored to have you in the building. I knew
Speaker 1: you for years. Man, you never changed on me. We
Speaker 1: always kept it tight, you kept it real. But how
Speaker 1: did you figure out how to get rich off of Christmas? Uh?
Speaker 1: CEO talk Yeah, just CEO the CEO. Well, you know,
Speaker 1: I had a lot of swings and mrs and UM
Speaker 1: in the past as far as merchandise and trying to
Speaker 1: capitalize of merchandise and capitalize off my success and merchandise
Speaker 1: at the same time. UM. I created a bunch of
Speaker 1: different UM T shirts, tried to testimony online, testimony with
Speaker 1: people's opinion. One of my best selling T shirts was
Speaker 1: the ones that had the two chains on them that
Speaker 1: other brands and people started using. That was a promo, yeah,
Speaker 1: but it was it was my idea to over time.
Speaker 1: I always had this idea of having to crazy yeah
Speaker 1: and bootleg and then fashion fashion people started using, changing
Speaker 1: their clothes and everything. So a lot of times with me,
Speaker 1: I shot away from something that I want to say
Speaker 1: I started, but some of the things that I maybe
Speaker 1: you know, started back up or or began. I kind
Speaker 1: of like I don't want people to you know, because
Speaker 1: today it will make it seem like you're biting, and
Speaker 1: it makes it seems like you you took this out
Speaker 1: and they flip it on you. I'm starting to see
Speaker 1: Forcade and all these different things. Sam, I ever hit
Speaker 1: you off for publishing Na Na Santa Santa didn't? He could?
Speaker 1: He should it because I ran up. I ran up
Speaker 1: some fans on because because technically nobody owns Santa though,
Speaker 1: right right right, that was that was perfectly Just think
Speaker 1: about it. Can you trade mark Santa Claus? Because think
Speaker 1: about it like it's a holiday. Nobody owns the holiday,
Speaker 1: and you figured that out. Put them chains on, some
Speaker 1: ugly sweaters, incorporated that damn movement with the sound to me,
Speaker 1: ran up a couple of ms and he was doing
Speaker 1: pop up shops with it, all types of things, right yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean that's the culture right now. You have to
Speaker 1: ride the wave a lot of times with artists, UM,
Speaker 1: A lot of times with artists and people that's been
Speaker 1: the game so long. They want to stay on what
Speaker 1: they are, like, this is what it is, even though
Speaker 1: it worked for them before. And with me, I keep
Speaker 1: the youth around, um. I surround myself with new creative vibes.
Speaker 1: And you gotta know, that the like urgency and impulses
Speaker 1: is in style right now, like like tomorrow or right tonight.
Speaker 1: Doing something so urgent is what's going on with kids
Speaker 1: because they're their attention span is so so so short.
Speaker 1: You have to be able to entertain them. You know,
Speaker 1: within a sixth second or seconds. Have you learned the
Speaker 1: window like pull back when you see like okay, it's
Speaker 1: over those six seconds? Um for me, for any artists
Speaker 1: right now, m with with the short attention span of
Speaker 1: a fan base, you have to consistently do stuff so
Speaker 1: you can't really pull back. Once you pull back, somebody
Speaker 1: can easily slide in that space because they're wise. Like
Speaker 1: if you see like something like what not merch merchants
Speaker 1: something that you have to learn. It's education. Like people
Speaker 1: think you just come up with a successful thing. You
Speaker 1: have to really read, You have to study the game,
Speaker 1: and then you have to capitalize of them. You have to, Um,
Speaker 1: you have to just when you come up with these
Speaker 1: ideas like people have. I don't think people follow through
Speaker 1: with their ideas. And with me, once you get a
Speaker 1: team that's put together and everybody knows their role and
Speaker 1: with Lane they're gonna run and me being the point
Speaker 1: guard being able to throw throw at the loops and
Speaker 1: and catch the dunk at the same time. But being
Speaker 1: a team player, it's easy to get ship done and
Speaker 1: you deal with all the way going back to manufacturing.
Speaker 1: Do you deal with that out everything? And I'm so
Speaker 1: hands on it don't make because I managed a band,
Speaker 1: a group that signed to Strange Music Tech nine and
Speaker 1: their merch game is but now And that's somebody that
Speaker 1: I learned from earlier. You heard about what he was
Speaker 1: doing with factories and warehouses and help allowing up his
Speaker 1: merch and he was somebody that never really threw it
Speaker 1: in your face. And that's kind of how I'm moving
Speaker 1: about with my brands, right. And then how did you
Speaker 1: come up with the CEO? Or Yes, CEO was another
Speaker 1: thing that I felt like was very urgent, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, God that sent me this idea because um,
Speaker 1: after Dad and sound, I was like, we don't have
Speaker 1: to do like a line for real, Like you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Like, and that's that the name of
Speaker 1: the line. Yeah, it's CEO Millionaires. It means creating every opportunity,
Speaker 1: you know what. I like that. It's because even if
Speaker 1: people in turn put this on. It gives them a
Speaker 1: sense of empowerment definitely, you know what I'm saying. I'm
Speaker 1: saying so I actually noticed the CEEO shirts and and
Speaker 1: I think the hats even before I knew you was
Speaker 1: affiliated with it. But once when I knew that was yours,
Speaker 1: I was like, he's thinking, because that's what we need
Speaker 1: in our communities is something that you you you can
Speaker 1: you can look forward to. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So if you're a maintenance man and you put on
Speaker 1: the CEO oh shirt, you want to spit back and
Speaker 1: be like, well, that's how you fail for that day.
Speaker 1: So let's make some noise for that. Goddammit, every two
Speaker 1: change he's he's so smooth. We're gonna get them to
Speaker 1: open up. So let's take it back to the to
Speaker 1: the how did you first get in the game? This
Speaker 1: was a D D T P. You was a directing
Speaker 1: h Um. I was signed to Luda at first, disturbing
Speaker 1: the peace. I was signing them for roughly man probably
Speaker 1: almost a dying probably almost ten years um. You know
Speaker 1: as titty boys. So to chains has more of a
Speaker 1: meaning besides me just wearing two chains. It means like
Speaker 1: this is a second chance. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: one chain for who I am, the second chain for
Speaker 1: who I want to be, or you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: that kind of thing like that, But just coming in
Speaker 1: the game with Luda. He was from College Park, Southside,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying where I'm from. He was
Speaker 1: a radio personality for people who don't really know his story.
Speaker 1: I was somebody, yeah, him and this guy named Poona
Speaker 1: who I was really cool with, from from l A.
Speaker 1: And he was in Atlanta like making noise, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. I was somebody that was very popular
Speaker 1: through through sports and hustling. That's why I was popular.
Speaker 1: And I wasn't someone that just went around and kind
Speaker 1: of wore a rapper on my sleeve, like like you know,
Speaker 1: earlier in the days, you knew a rapper was a
Speaker 1: rapper because he you know, he was closed backwards or
Speaker 1: you know, got the ciphers. Yeah he was. And I
Speaker 1: was someone that just was entertained by watching that, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. And I never really knew that
Speaker 1: this was a skill set of mind. I just knew
Speaker 1: that I was meant to entertain people, you know, what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. In my earlier days, like when I was
Speaker 1: you know, a basketball start, whatever you want to call it,
Speaker 1: any time I had the ball, I realized that's when
Speaker 1: everybody would would look at me. So I don't want
Speaker 1: to not have the ball. So it's the same concept
Speaker 1: with holding the microphone. I feel like any time I
Speaker 1: got the mic I got people's attention and I started
Speaker 1: kicking moves with Luda. Um he signed me. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, I learned a lot. That's probably like
Speaker 1: oh three or something like that. Oh I learned. I
Speaker 1: learned a lot from being on his wings, shokazoo on
Speaker 1: the whole camp. Know what I'm saying. His management was
Speaker 1: like a New York based guys where hip hop started.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. They had a lot of knowledge,
Speaker 1: and I meant Nori like drew them along. Let me
Speaker 1: let me ask, um, So, what was the moment where
Speaker 1: you was like this is not gonna work and you
Speaker 1: stood on your own, Like was you confident in that
Speaker 1: moment or because these guys were steaming hot? Yeah, and
Speaker 1: you stepped away? What was that? Well? Um, you know,
Speaker 1: I've always been highly confident in myself and my talents
Speaker 1: um um, and it was just something that I don't know,
Speaker 1: it's just it's just something that didn't feel. It didn't
Speaker 1: feel right. Like I would come in clubs and and
Speaker 1: you know, if I came in with the whole crew,
Speaker 1: he would get a certain amount of attention and I
Speaker 1: would too because I had kind of like paid my
Speaker 1: dudes as far as paving the way for myself as
Speaker 1: far as being, you know what some man that was
Speaker 1: a legendary guy who who was out here really hustling
Speaker 1: bags or doing what people may yap about on albums,
Speaker 1: like people know like I would. I would be on
Speaker 1: the road doing shows for bad boys and come back
Speaker 1: and pick up you know, I would go out, didn't
Speaker 1: make five hundreds or something thousand the show, but come
Speaker 1: back and pick up like twenty bands because I didn't
Speaker 1: left something that damnag. So like your first official like
Speaker 1: single on your own was I'm Riding Now and I'm
Speaker 1: Getting It. That really went national headline, Like how did
Speaker 1: that moment feel? Because for me, I knew about you.
Speaker 1: I've been telling people about you forever, but that was
Speaker 1: like your first breakout single. I remember being in Atlanta
Speaker 1: in the Strip Club and its just coming on and
Speaker 1: everybody going crazy, Like, what was that moment? Was that
Speaker 1: the moment where you knew that you made the right decision. Well,
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna lie. Like when I did Duffle Back Boys,
Speaker 1: which was before that, that that gave me that feeling
Speaker 1: a lot of people received it. Well, Wange was the
Speaker 1: hardest dude in the world. He did the hook for nothing,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. He just did the hook
Speaker 1: because he was feeling, well, I was coming from other songs.
Speaker 1: He gave me a breakthrough. He gave me. It gave
Speaker 1: me that feeling. So although I was going on the
Speaker 1: road and that receiving a lot of money, I was
Speaker 1: receiving experience. I was learning how to do radio. I
Speaker 1: was learning how to do drops. Things that artist tape
Speaker 1: for grantedy day, small stuff. You get artists at the
Speaker 1: radio stations never be there for two weeks during drop
Speaker 1: he did when they did the Duffel Bag, y'all did
Speaker 1: the intros for the djst Oh my god, I did
Speaker 1: like I was gonna because because at this time, you're
Speaker 1: so hungry, you want to get on so bad. Like
Speaker 1: a lot of times we get that little thing of
Speaker 1: success and we kind of be like, I don't have
Speaker 1: to do that, you know what I'm saying. But it's
Speaker 1: it's it was important to do it because you still
Speaker 1: remember this, So I don't feel like it went in
Speaker 1: vain back then. I should be like, man, this don't
Speaker 1: even mean yeah. So you know that's always a sweet feeling,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So when I got that
Speaker 1: successful Wayne with Deffel Bad Boys, I was able to
Speaker 1: actually go on tour with him and perform it in
Speaker 1: front of you know, arenas and so watching his work ethic,
Speaker 1: watching what he does, you know, on and off the stage,
Speaker 1: and owning the studio in Atlanta, not really taking advantage
Speaker 1: of the studio that I had. I was more or
Speaker 1: less using my studio for a trap than really working
Speaker 1: out of and then realizing that I can get more
Speaker 1: for a sixteen that I can get for it any
Speaker 1: matter penitentiary chance you did. But that Wayne hook, how
Speaker 1: did that hook go? If I don't do nothing on
Speaker 1: my bad count on clock? That is arguably the greatest
Speaker 1: hip hop hook, and it's crazy in history like that
Speaker 1: hook was like that should change? I was like why?
Speaker 1: And it actually made me pay attention to Wayne more
Speaker 1: as well, because he was only on there for like
Speaker 1: eight bars and it was so how how how and
Speaker 1: and you and Wayne just maintained that relationship from then.
Speaker 1: Is that when your first um uh connected. Well, we
Speaker 1: was actually cool before that, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: Like I was actually cool before that. A lot of
Speaker 1: people anytime they came in to Atlanta, they had to
Speaker 1: hauler at me for different reasons. Um and then I
Speaker 1: built a lot of I built a great relationship with
Speaker 1: him when I went to New Orleans when I first
Speaker 1: met Stunner, I met STUNNERD first. I want to New
Speaker 1: Orleans and me and him started getting cool when I but,
Speaker 1: like I said, he really didn't know that I was
Speaker 1: like a rapper. I wasn't kicking it like that. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. I was more less around you know,
Speaker 1: and I have you know how we are some urgos.
Speaker 1: It is the best sign, I said, virgos is the
Speaker 1: best sign that nobody clapped for me. We got some
Speaker 1: good vibes. So people people rock with us. We loyal
Speaker 1: people once you get us on the team. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, whether people rocking with you or not,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, you my partner. You did
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So that's how I kick it. I
Speaker 1: can't wait for nobody to fun with you. That's when
Speaker 1: I'm gonna stay down with So that's what it is.
Speaker 1: I've been. I'm sorry, actually honestly, honestly, I'll tell every
Speaker 1: rapper who coming on this show, I said, this might
Speaker 1: not do nothing for them, but it does everything for
Speaker 1: for me as a podcaster. And then then what happens
Speaker 1: with this is these people go back and they pick
Speaker 1: up your albums. How this is happening? I have no idea,
Speaker 1: but everybody who's actually been on the podcast albums is
Speaker 1: like charting again because they just love to sit down
Speaker 1: and hear this. And you and Wayne's relationship is like
Speaker 1: I could tell that that's real. Like not not to
Speaker 1: say that any of his other relationships wasn't, but I remember, like,
Speaker 1: he's supposed to do an album with H. T. Pain,
Speaker 1: He's supposed to do an album with you know you
Speaker 1: name him Duel, So you know what I'm saying, who else?
Speaker 1: Um Drake? And then and it happened with you? How
Speaker 1: did that feel? Like? You know? Because I know that
Speaker 1: with somebody you looked up to and now like he's
Speaker 1: really I still do I still do. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, This is like you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: he made me step it up. Uh, it was excuse me,
Speaker 1: Like I told him, it was a dream come It
Speaker 1: was a dream come true for me. You did what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, Like, everybody know he's up for echelon, he's
Speaker 1: top tier MCY in the game. Um, well he has
Speaker 1: an album out or not. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: I'm able to I'm lucky enough to hear compositions that
Speaker 1: some people haven't heard to let you know that he
Speaker 1: still has a very sharp sword. It was fun. And
Speaker 1: this came out on deaf Jam too. How did you
Speaker 1: pull that off? Because you know he's went through all
Speaker 1: this legal stuff and you still because yeah, it's on
Speaker 1: Define because I thought it was a mixtape. And then
Speaker 1: well the universe the same thing, but they're still different,
Speaker 1: the same thing but the same you know, that's the
Speaker 1: same thing. Yeah, but technically they could, they could, they could,
Speaker 1: they could step in. I mean Universal owns the whole company,
Speaker 1: that's a fact. But that was just it was just
Speaker 1: how it was just how the stars was lined up
Speaker 1: because because Universal was really it's really the father, and
Speaker 1: it's course they don't they don't haveing. It's the child
Speaker 1: to come up with this. The father. They have no
Speaker 1: problem with it because the person that was on half
Speaker 1: the composition what I'm saying, So it kind of was,
Speaker 1: it was still it was still certain dudes that had
Speaker 1: to be paid, but it wasn't ever a problem with this.
Speaker 1: Couldn't have come through fruition. Yeah, that's that's crazy though. Man,
Speaker 1: that's goddamn crazy. Man. Let's make some noise for a
Speaker 1: fucking to change floes at all. So that record, y'all
Speaker 1: was battling. Yeah, like I felt like you was like
Speaker 1: showing off at that point. Was in the studio together.
Speaker 1: And see that's the thing that we have a lot
Speaker 1: of records that didn't make the album, but a lot
Speaker 1: of the stuff that that you hear, we were actually
Speaker 1: in the studio together. You know what I'm sending people
Speaker 1: have been a studio Wayne. You could be in there
Speaker 1: with him for weeks and not get a verse off.
Speaker 1: When they're going to together. It's kind of like what
Speaker 1: you got to You gotta need beats, and I'll be like,
Speaker 1: what you got you know what I'm saying so for
Speaker 1: this particular song bounced that I think everybody should hear
Speaker 1: in the game because it adds something different to the game,
Speaker 1: and it's very fun and intriguing, and there's some bars
Speaker 1: in there. We just went back and forth. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. I have a few of my friends
Speaker 1: in there. I'm like, I remember my chef was in there,
Speaker 1: my engineer to change lossing on that. Yeah, I had
Speaker 1: to throw that cap in. I let y'all know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. I'm living no beef, no pork. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: carried mind with me like strap. So with that being sad, right,
Speaker 1: you know your relationship closer with Wayne, and you also
Speaker 1: said that you met baby first, right, Like, how how
Speaker 1: does it feel like to be like you're not in
Speaker 1: the middle of it, but just to see, you know,
Speaker 1: discrepancies transpire. Um, I don't feel like I'm in the
Speaker 1: middle own. I don't have feelings on it because I
Speaker 1: have a great I have a great report both both
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, or both gentlemen. Uh, I've
Speaker 1: always looked up looked up to starting like a mentor
Speaker 1: someone that was very educational with the street background. Same
Speaker 1: way where like hole. You know, somebody that kind of
Speaker 1: got had the same little job on that resume. You
Speaker 1: dig what I'm saying, that has this so you know,
Speaker 1: and then I always looked up to Wayne for someone
Speaker 1: that created its own lane off off um work, ethic
Speaker 1: and precision and you know, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: trying to be purpose. So for me, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, I don't have an issue with you know,
Speaker 1: their relationship. You know what I'm saying. I just you know,
Speaker 1: for the most part, I cherished my relationship I got
Speaker 1: with both the guys. You know what I'm saying, I really,
Speaker 1: I really do. You know what I'm saying. I'm happy
Speaker 1: to have known them for over a decade. You see
Speaker 1: the ups and the downs, all right, that makes a
Speaker 1: noise for that god damaged? So what what what what
Speaker 1: that being said? You got something? Yeah, I want to
Speaker 1: take it a little further back, but you was in
Speaker 1: the in the documentary that we just saw the organized noise?
Speaker 1: When were you? Now? Yeah, yeah, what what is that?
Speaker 1: I mean? I noticed? I can't that I can think
Speaker 1: of any evident like collaborations with you and and and
Speaker 1: Dungeon family to that. But do well you haven't heard
Speaker 1: what what is happening is I'm working on another album
Speaker 1: and this is and I'm glad that so it was
Speaker 1: a good reason I'm here. So so I'm working on
Speaker 1: another album now. I enlisted like three or four producers
Speaker 1: who I wanted to curate my project. You did what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. And with my last album, I'm in my
Speaker 1: ticket to to YEA dropped off a drive. And then
Speaker 1: because I just like his pre and post, like I
Speaker 1: like leaving somebody in hearing what he does that and
Speaker 1: then it's like some other guys that got like some
Speaker 1: other sauce, like my guy fk I, who I did
Speaker 1: watch out with. I love him, my homie See no
Speaker 1: who did Um. I'm on a new level for for
Speaker 1: Um and Organized Noise, who did some incredible things doing
Speaker 1: my upbringing in Atlantis. You did what I'm saying. So
Speaker 1: one day I called everybody to a studio to hear
Speaker 1: my new album. You know what I'm sitting here, what
Speaker 1: I got on some same vibe that you would do.
Speaker 1: As far as calling everybody here and just really not
Speaker 1: even trying to wrap that day. We're just gonna talk
Speaker 1: about music. I just see, you know, and this is
Speaker 1: before colleague Grove. You know what I'm saying. This is
Speaker 1: just just me working on my next project, which is
Speaker 1: called BC, which is mean before Chains, which is basically
Speaker 1: to the Boy and the whole upbringing back when you
Speaker 1: knew me type. So they come in. I got reco
Speaker 1: I got everybody says asleep, I got everybody else seeing
Speaker 1: in the documentary, and I'm rubbing my hands together like
Speaker 1: stunning them because I know I know I got something
Speaker 1: that don't nobody else got. I know that they're very educated.
Speaker 1: I know that they know what that you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. I know they're a track record. And then
Speaker 1: they do this documentary and like everybody on, they bumping
Speaker 1: and you know, once again, like I said earlier, I
Speaker 1: don't want to seem like I'm biting, but I already
Speaker 1: got some stuff correcting with with Mr DJ and the
Speaker 1: whole campaign. You know what I'm saying. But like I
Speaker 1: look up the ceil, I look up man. Come on,
Speaker 1: three K is my favorite person in the world. Man
Speaker 1: like it carries himself, how he does music. Everything about
Speaker 1: that heard you say about one day you was at
Speaker 1: one of your concerts and you see Andre three thousands
Speaker 1: just chilling in the crowd. This dude called uber something
Speaker 1: with a bunch of people was in the crowd. So
Speaker 1: I sent somebody to go get him. I said, this
Speaker 1: man in the right he goes, I'm saying, Oh, I
Speaker 1: just wanted to come to show you. I'm saying, you
Speaker 1: know you come back, Kim watch to show you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So he was It's like he almost
Speaker 1: didn't realize who he was. Man, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: And like after he watched the show, he was he
Speaker 1: was just the fade of the way again back into
Speaker 1: the But you know that's that's what's beautiful about about you.
Speaker 1: You know, one thing is how big you got. You
Speaker 1: ain't afraid to still be a fan. Like I've seen
Speaker 1: you one time, like on a jay Z stage and
Speaker 1: you were snapchat and and today your manager we hit
Speaker 1: at tech right, it's been a technic thanks for helping out.
Speaker 1: Check um right there. And you know what he says
Speaker 1: that you know, um two chain is going to perform,
Speaker 1: but he also want to see the show. And right
Speaker 1: that moment, I was like, that's why that man is
Speaker 1: gonna be around forever. Because when you get to a
Speaker 1: certain limit, a certain point in your life. Some people
Speaker 1: want to stop being fans. Like you ever hear nigga
Speaker 1: say you all I listened to is my ship, Like
Speaker 1: you're an idiot, Like you better listen to everything, like
Speaker 1: I listened to the new, the older, in between, the
Speaker 1: super old. I listened to it all because you should
Speaker 1: be a uh you should be knowing what's going on
Speaker 1: in the world, and that that's what keeps you you know, tune, Man,
Speaker 1: I think that's that's something that should be applauded, that
Speaker 1: the fact is that you just came and performed for
Speaker 1: the biggest audience, but you actually want to stay there
Speaker 1: and sitting there and give it up to another artist. Man,
Speaker 1: this this Beyonce though you know what, I'm still it's
Speaker 1: like she's one of the best entertainers of our time.
Speaker 1: We just lost one of the best in print, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. So you can't let this go.
Speaker 1: You cannot realize that you're in the presence of greatness
Speaker 1: and not while they're still here when they go to
Speaker 1: passing away. You got all these pictures. You're gonna post
Speaker 1: story vibes. You're gonna post when the man was just
Speaker 1: walking up the day you did what I'm saying, So
Speaker 1: I meant to giving people credit. You know, I do
Speaker 1: know what the same way being a fan of why
Speaker 1: knowing about you know what I'm saying, error and things
Speaker 1: like that. They're really cool to me as a Southern artist.
Speaker 1: They got substance or think about what I say. I'm
Speaker 1: not like your average so you are you? You're a
Speaker 1: real hip like man man him like like when people
Speaker 1: like that started like like co signing me and not
Speaker 1: just co signing me, like honoring my my mindset, my deliveries,
Speaker 1: the things that I was saying from him to you,
Speaker 1: or to a Jada Kiss or to a Lloyd Banks,
Speaker 1: or to to anybody on these certain levels where they
Speaker 1: really a fab or anybody really care about their bars
Speaker 1: all they got to do or nas I can go
Speaker 1: on or hold or anybody else that's complimenting me on
Speaker 1: some things. That's where I get my confidence from. It's
Speaker 1: not like I need a female you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: My money is good. It's these peers that I look
Speaker 1: up to and came up to and recognized. They tear
Speaker 1: up bars when they go to go to you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, boy, You know what I'm saying, I'm
Speaker 1: I'd be good be caring about the numbers and nothing
Speaker 1: after that, I'd be good, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So like I and another thing, Um, I've seen you
Speaker 1: on the Breakfast Club and what's your partner that just
Speaker 1: passed away? A bank girl, Frank Fresh, and you spoke
Speaker 1: about that and you said in that interview, you said, um,
Speaker 1: you don't think about it. And that's that's one thing
Speaker 1: that I noticed about you. Like you you'll put you'll
Speaker 1: take pain and you'll just put it to the side.
Speaker 1: Like is that is that a plus? So that's a negative? No,
Speaker 1: That's something that I've been doing since probably like I've
Speaker 1: been doing that since I was young, Like having like
Speaker 1: this big ass smile with some dark stuff going on.
Speaker 1: I noticed that's you know what I'm saying, that's that's
Speaker 1: one of my that's my defense mechan this, that's one
Speaker 1: of my like and and it takes like, um, when
Speaker 1: dealing with people, because I'm a psychology major. When dealing
Speaker 1: with people, all levels hold on smart rule. But he
Speaker 1: just put out as the blow by just now so
Speaker 1: definitely yea. But ahead when you were you're dealing with
Speaker 1: people of all fascists, like all of us have different power,
Speaker 1: so to speak. They won't know. But I could run
Speaker 1: across fans that can recognize that this maybe a cover up,
Speaker 1: now I can. I could run into some people that
Speaker 1: that don't even get it. Right, man, this man got
Speaker 1: a smile concrete on his face. Then I could run
Speaker 1: across somebody to be like, you ain't feeling good today,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So it's just it's just
Speaker 1: kind of how I moved with coming up in a
Speaker 1: single parent household and a low social economic status type
Speaker 1: of neighborhood and really not even understanding that you was
Speaker 1: in bad shape. You did what I'm saying because there's
Speaker 1: somebody down the street doing it works because because I remember,
Speaker 1: like the most I ever called you is um when
Speaker 1: your pops passed away. And the thing about that is
Speaker 1: I was my my pops passed away. I was in
Speaker 1: the same exact situation as you. I was. I had
Speaker 1: a platinum album, I was on the road, I had
Speaker 1: they had just gave me. I had did a tour
Speaker 1: for five hundred thousand, right, this is those beautiful days, right,
Speaker 1: and they gave me two hundred and fifty thousand in
Speaker 1: advance and then they gave me like another one eight
Speaker 1: before I got on the plane or something something like that.
Speaker 1: And you know, I had took off. I paid for
Speaker 1: the funeral, win out and Chris Lidy came to me
Speaker 1: and was like, it's either two things we can do.
Speaker 1: We can give back this money or we can go
Speaker 1: cash this money. And I had to go on the
Speaker 1: road like this is my father. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: this is this was my hero. You know, other people
Speaker 1: in the hood had drug dealers. They looked I looked
Speaker 1: at my pops so and I knew what you was
Speaker 1: going through and I didn't care if I bothered you.
Speaker 1: I called you every single day and I made you
Speaker 1: remember that you still done with I was like, yo,
Speaker 1: you know I got done with them with that. See,
Speaker 1: if you ever, if you've never lost a parent, ain't know,
Speaker 1: ain't you could tell me about you understand. I can't
Speaker 1: go for that because see, my dad, that's real ship.
Speaker 1: I feel you just email. You did what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: because my daddy, you do what I'm saying. Although, like
Speaker 1: I said, I'd be using them stories about a single
Speaker 1: parent mom and all that's you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: like I remember going to UM. I remember going to
Speaker 1: prison and my daddy looking totally different than I remember
Speaker 1: him when he went in. I remember, just like I'm
Speaker 1: being different here, got a little gran and everything. I
Speaker 1: just remember looking different. I remember putting my hand up
Speaker 1: against the glass. I remember, but I remember still like
Speaker 1: I remember, it became like a like a um, like
Speaker 1: a fad to like this your father, like everybody like
Speaker 1: you know man, you know what? And I never went
Speaker 1: through that fat like even though mine went around, I
Speaker 1: still wasn't like he's like for some reason, because I
Speaker 1: could find him if I wanted to, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. And he always had some games and some
Speaker 1: gangster fun me. You know what I'm saying. He always
Speaker 1: had some games and some gangster from me. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So the last time he got out
Speaker 1: a prison and I picked him up personally, I pulled
Speaker 1: up I didn't even have him this much money. I
Speaker 1: have an expedition and all that. I pull up down
Speaker 1: and Archie State Prison. So where I picked the man up,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. I take me to get
Speaker 1: the rising Phone bank account, put nine thousand in it
Speaker 1: from and a couple other things. You did. What I'm saying,
Speaker 1: I moved the man with me and we started doing
Speaker 1: we was doing, and my daddy still had his hustle.
Speaker 1: He still when when he passed away, I found two
Speaker 1: pounds money, all types of stuff. He still had two
Speaker 1: pounds of what we yeah yeahs with my partners see that.
Speaker 1: That was like I'm calling the studio that and I'm
Speaker 1: starting to put this stuff to go, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. But now I found money and everything, and
Speaker 1: it's just like like I tell people with me, hustling
Speaker 1: is like hereditarist of Janette for me, like my daddy,
Speaker 1: really you know what I'm saying, droll cars off the truck,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So when I'm riding and
Speaker 1: stuff with the plastic still on them and how you
Speaker 1: want to kick it, it's in my blood stream, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. So when I lose somebody of
Speaker 1: that caliber, it's gonna affect me to a point where, like,
Speaker 1: you know, when I'm not doing that, I like to think,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. When I like to think,
Speaker 1: I go to you know what I'm saying, it's not
Speaker 1: I don't have like but you ever like you never
Speaker 1: like because the thing about it is with me, I
Speaker 1: had to deal with it face on, like I had
Speaker 1: to look at it and say because to me, I
Speaker 1: feel like you like kind of put it into the
Speaker 1: back and you just you don't really think about it.
Speaker 1: Am I right? Or now? I think about this, nigga.
Speaker 1: I think about bank roll all the time. I can
Speaker 1: hear bank roll voids. Fam Let me tell you something.
Speaker 1: This is the thing with bank role is that I
Speaker 1: can't believe. And now I just can't believe it. I
Speaker 1: just remember to to I just can't believe it. It's
Speaker 1: just about the blow. I can't believe it. I just
Speaker 1: because we never saw each other every day. I talked
Speaker 1: every day anyway, So I just feel like I'm gonna
Speaker 1: see him again. I can't believe it. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying With my father, he was getting sick. It's
Speaker 1: a difference between a sporadic death and somebody that was sick.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. With somebody that's sick, kind
Speaker 1: of be like, man, I pray, hope it's gonna work.
Speaker 1: With some something that spread, you go to be like
Speaker 1: all right, boom and then fifteen minutes later, it's like,
Speaker 1: that's why you can't believe it, because you just was
Speaker 1: like all right, shorty, boom boo boom before you can
Speaker 1: get to the next spot. It's like, you can't believe.
Speaker 1: There's no way that happened like that. Where was you
Speaker 1: at when you got the call? Was you in Atlanta? Yeah?
Speaker 1: I was in the level. I was in Atlanta. I
Speaker 1: was very close. You know what I'm saying. So so
Speaker 1: with me, it's a defense. It's a defense mechanism. You know,
Speaker 1: you gotta think like I did the best I could.
Speaker 1: I didn't like you, Okay, my album dropped the same
Speaker 1: day that bank passed. I couldn't be trying to put
Speaker 1: up go get this all this stuff. I had to
Speaker 1: try to build. But this is what I gotta do.
Speaker 1: I didn't know that. Yeah, my my album dropped. My
Speaker 1: pops died two weeks later, something like that. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: believe when you came down to Melbourne, Flint, I remember
Speaker 1: he was mourning and Flint that was yeah. I lost
Speaker 1: my pops and Punt at that time, like seeing not Pun.
Speaker 1: I ain't never seen Pun sick like I used to
Speaker 1: be around Pun and he used to fall asleep on
Speaker 1: me right change. But he'd be like I used to think,
Speaker 1: I like, damn, I'm boring this ship my story. I'm like,
Speaker 1: I didn't know Pun was sitting until like after he passed,
Speaker 1: and then I went and, um, you know, uh studied
Speaker 1: what that was like enough oxygen wasn't coming to his brain.
Speaker 1: But I was too young to understand that. So Pun
Speaker 1: was like bankroll, you know what I'm saying, Like it
Speaker 1: was just like suddenly, no, my pops. I had knew
Speaker 1: my pops at kidney failure. I knew even what he
Speaker 1: was going through. So I related to you so much,
Speaker 1: not only being a virgo, but I just you know,
Speaker 1: I think that you're you're such a loyal person. You're
Speaker 1: such a like even you being here right now, even
Speaker 1: you being here right now, that's that's from me and
Speaker 1: you knowing each other from back then, but you ain't
Speaker 1: had to come so that that in itself shows how
Speaker 1: just loyal you are. And I just want you to
Speaker 1: just not to forget to take care to change. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, take care of you because I
Speaker 1: see you take it. Come on here, you're gonnait. You're
Speaker 1: gonna hear something like I was scared to offer you
Speaker 1: so down. Now, let's break down. Let's break down lean
Speaker 1: for the people who is drinking chlorox because some people
Speaker 1: are out here drinking chlorox change. They're not drinking Lean.
Speaker 1: They're drinking chlorox and mixed with U ni quail. Can
Speaker 1: you tell them the rail? How does this happen? All right?
Speaker 1: So they have like they have fake activists, like they
Speaker 1: have fake everything. They got fake everything. And so I
Speaker 1: don't drink red green nothing like that. All I do
Speaker 1: is drink activists. So when they said they were gonna
Speaker 1: stop making activists way back when, now activist is pink.
Speaker 1: This is it's like, uh is the coding that changes
Speaker 1: at the point change and it changes the pink. Once
Speaker 1: once activists like once just to beber and a few
Speaker 1: are the artists of high caliber started getting caught with
Speaker 1: this kind of drink just to people activists, We did
Speaker 1: not know that. Let's make some noise just to be
Speaker 1: you officially a nigga's goddamn it. Just to man, it
Speaker 1: was just it was just everybody. Every time you saw somebody,
Speaker 1: that's what they They started being something that they would
Speaker 1: post from Soldier Boy and a lot of other cats
Speaker 1: would post it online. So in my opinion, the company
Speaker 1: shut down and we gave a warning that we were
Speaker 1: shutting down. When they gave that one, I didn't believe them,
Speaker 1: but I kind of did because the price went up
Speaker 1: and I thought people were just trying to So I
Speaker 1: bought a little extra and so I don't drink every
Speaker 1: day at all. You know what I'm saying. But today
Speaker 1: I'm in Miami is like, um, it was like a
Speaker 1: Beyonce tour. I had to perform for that. I had
Speaker 1: a video shoot with Little Wayne yesterday. I know, I
Speaker 1: gotta be geeked up to be around this nigga did
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, So I pulled out like some friend
Speaker 1: twin he he came with factivists. Yeah, I don't coming
Speaker 1: with that. That was was It was factivist. It wasn't
Speaker 1: an activist we come with Come on that, twin, do
Speaker 1: speak on has Mike? What was that fake ship? You drinking?
Speaker 1: What's this ship? What's that? It called fake? There's different
Speaker 1: types of lean. What's called terrical? It's greed. I've never
Speaker 1: heard of that. I might ask you to step off
Speaker 1: in my never heard of that. I'm kiding like I
Speaker 1: love you even look you got two change with choking out. Listen,
Speaker 1: time out twin. This is the lean guy. He's never
Speaker 1: heard of it. Pull on what you said, give us
Speaker 1: the room. That's not it right, that's what he's drinking is.
Speaker 1: This is promenthed zinging and code in. I don't know.
Speaker 1: It comes like to drink. It's very light, it's very sweet.
Speaker 1: So when people get on, they get addicted to the taste.
Speaker 1: It tastes good and then it gives you, I don't know,
Speaker 1: a different kind of body high. For me, I'm already
Speaker 1: laid back, so it it tensifies my laid back in
Speaker 1: this so that you did what I'm saying. And it
Speaker 1: helps with anxiety, helps with pain relief and all of that.
Speaker 1: So back when I was taking it before I knew
Speaker 1: I needed it because I got assos and acid reflux
Speaker 1: and some other things. This is what they prescribe you
Speaker 1: from things of that nature. They describe you this right here,
Speaker 1: but they instead of doing this now they give you peel.
Speaker 1: So now I have from the same peoples that are
Speaker 1: from the doctor. But in order to get this here,
Speaker 1: it's basically extinct. But I got a little spot, got
Speaker 1: a couple of things laying around the chains having that's
Speaker 1: a little yeah, because I've taken zenas before and it's
Speaker 1: like whoa, you know, just like I can't this drink
Speaker 1: is a little okay. So okay, how did you become
Speaker 1: a popular the land? Because it's a Houston thing. It's
Speaker 1: definitely start in Texas, you know, because we're in the
Speaker 1: South as well, man, and it became something that, um,
Speaker 1: it's a culture. Like with smoking, a lot of things
Speaker 1: that make a smoke from a psychological perspective. My brother
Speaker 1: psychologist has to do with the actual smoke. It wasn't
Speaker 1: on smoke. A lot of us wouldn't give you know,
Speaker 1: when when smoke, it's just the fact that you have
Speaker 1: the exhale. You see, she can make circles, you can
Speaker 1: like the whole They see it over there. You know.
Speaker 1: It's like we was over here smoking and no one
Speaker 1: can see it. Kind of like we probably wouldn't do
Speaker 1: it because it's a psychologic did what I'm saying. So
Speaker 1: it's the same thing with cups and drinking. You got
Speaker 1: these double cups. It represents the culture of you know,
Speaker 1: how many people got shipped Like every time sneaker is
Speaker 1: doing this ship with liquor in it. Now, you don't
Speaker 1: even supposed to drink liquor in ships. Drunk the white
Speaker 1: out this tra he had, he had a lean and
Speaker 1: patron and Henny, I said, this nigga is crazy that
Speaker 1: but yeah, and then like then you got peels or
Speaker 1: something that you take. They have to wait like me
Speaker 1: and you take at the same time. We get ht
Speaker 1: at different times, and it's just peels is a little
Speaker 1: different for me anyway, everything else I'll be I'll try sometimes.
Speaker 1: So what you got, niggas, don't God, this is eight
Speaker 1: hundred of point, that's your five thou point. Now let's
Speaker 1: make the most expensive ship. Now that you're doing the
Speaker 1: most expensive ship with g Q. How did that happen?
Speaker 1: They came to me, man, they saw somebody would have
Speaker 1: devil their personality. You know what I'm saying. They saw
Speaker 1: somebody with the right defin their That sounds like something
Speaker 1: Billy Dee Wi the set. It's like, I'm gonna use
Speaker 1: that word. Definitely continue. It's something that they came to
Speaker 1: me with. You know, we made it happen. It made sense, expensive, accessful,
Speaker 1: and hopefully we'll take it to the next level. We
Speaker 1: just shot the third season, so it's bigger GQ for
Speaker 1: seeing that because two chains of hood nigger like and
Speaker 1: they got him sipping What was you doing? I just did, Yeah, Well,
Speaker 1: I've had a three hundred dollar hamburger, I've had facts.
Speaker 1: This is this is life I've had. I mean the
Speaker 1: stuff that I've done is they have the five thousand
Speaker 1: all toothbrush, they have the five thousand of the tooth,
Speaker 1: They have the Sunday I forgot much the Sunday cars
Speaker 1: they had, but they have like, you know, two million
Speaker 1: dollar cards. I mean, everything they have is like very
Speaker 1: over the top. And then for me, they introduced me
Speaker 1: to the person then on their camera. I think that's
Speaker 1: why successful was like I don't know anything about the person.
Speaker 1: Sometimes they don't know anything about me, so it's like
Speaker 1: I come there. Like the last one of the episodes
Speaker 1: I did was like selling one of these commemorative paths
Speaker 1: for Kobe, you know, for like twenty five thousand. But
Speaker 1: you know they're gonna walk into the ring with a
Speaker 1: secure already, get a girl and a whole bunch of
Speaker 1: cat with it, you know what I'm saying. But I
Speaker 1: wasn't going it was like a regular fitted cat, but
Speaker 1: it has some nice fabric. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Nice things going on, but you know, just me knowing
Speaker 1: that this hat, I though, I'm touching it and popping,
Speaker 1: and they like they want a quarter for it. Get
Speaker 1: your hat back, you know what I'm saying. So like
Speaker 1: the last episode I did, um was Colonel of Popcorn.
Speaker 1: It had gold on it and all of this. They
Speaker 1: want five. I was per per colonel for real, nothing
Speaker 1: expensive movie. Get you like a hunter all the work,
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, work with them, more for them, more
Speaker 1: for them, more for them. A little bit and they
Speaker 1: come to a little three fives, little traps. You can
Speaker 1: get a one. You can get your one on, you know.
Speaker 1: So I'm kind of ate like a hunter dog. Work
Speaker 1: for them kicking it, but I'm gonna kick it with
Speaker 1: they're kicking it. Definitely said they're kicking it, bro Man.
Speaker 1: Once again, that's one I wanted. Just admitted interview. But
Speaker 1: I want to thank you just just for being here
Speaker 1: and your energy. It's perfect. But I also want to
Speaker 1: bring up one thing, uh the c murder thing. You
Speaker 1: remember I called you? What did I say, man? He said,
Speaker 1: let that go? Said let that go first. People don't
Speaker 1: know that, but I wasn't gonna be a negative stuff
Speaker 1: because I don't want to kick the man while he
Speaker 1: was down. But right before, I like posted this video
Speaker 1: about how I was like, not really gonna entertain that
Speaker 1: you had just you had just hitting me up like
Speaker 1: the chains don't do it and it's just man, you know,
Speaker 1: negative energy needs something negative to like cling on to
Speaker 1: let you know what I'm saying, and you could almost
Speaker 1: almost get me. But right now I'm like, man, I
Speaker 1: got like a beautiful family. You know what I was
Speaker 1: worried about. I was worried about you, worried about the
Speaker 1: internet trolls, like so you know that when I called you,
Speaker 1: I was like, because I know C murder and murder.
Speaker 1: Have you ever met C Murder? Not well? I know that,
Speaker 1: I know I'm very well and I know you very well.
Speaker 1: Y'all nigga would have been best friends. I'm just telling you,
Speaker 1: like so, so I was like I was when I
Speaker 1: seeing that, I was like, it was my duty, as
Speaker 1: I don't want to say O gun, but it was
Speaker 1: my duty like to change you too powerful because if
Speaker 1: he would have said, if you would have just said
Speaker 1: fuck that, you could have tweeted fuck that and the
Speaker 1: world would have just came, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: like down either on him or down on you. And
Speaker 1: it's and it's like we don't need you must need
Speaker 1: that he's in the position now, but I feel like
Speaker 1: he shouldn't. You see the energy in a way that's
Speaker 1: like negative, like like using this engine now for me
Speaker 1: being in the can. I knew where he was coming
Speaker 1: from because all he's saying is uh, you know, you
Speaker 1: know he ain't understand. Can't hear your story? You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. I was able to talk to the phone.
Speaker 1: I was able talking about It's so many sides of
Speaker 1: the story because it's like all right, all right, you
Speaker 1: think I'm snacking off because see somebody of the album
Speaker 1: cover that I would never make. It was like when
Speaker 1: the album comes like if you follow me, I try
Speaker 1: to be creative. I don't know. And honestly, like the
Speaker 1: name of my TRU is the real university. The acronyms
Speaker 1: is TRU. But I'm like most men as far as
Speaker 1: not want to explain myself to people. That's really like
Speaker 1: my thing that I'm still working with, Like I don't
Speaker 1: feel like like even today is like man, I want
Speaker 1: to do the consort. But then I got to really
Speaker 1: tell you're gonna take really I want to tell him,
Speaker 1: I want to see Beyonce. N said, Yo, it's nigger.
Speaker 1: Want to see my wife is there right now? Wife
Speaker 1: to the concert. And it's like I'm trying to work
Speaker 1: with like trying to bounce that off, like still like this,
Speaker 1: like this is not being no loose loss of respect thing,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So I got him on
Speaker 1: the phone. I'm letting them know, like my tr you
Speaker 1: we buy homes for people in need, you know, So
Speaker 1: my TRU we get back to the community. My TRU
Speaker 1: does different things like this, My tr you don't my tear.
Speaker 1: You don't say I'm in camouflage. I have brothers that
Speaker 1: do anything that's that's a connected. I haven't redone a
Speaker 1: composition from that eraror anything. It's literally just an acronym
Speaker 1: like true TV and ain't nobody mad at TV. I
Speaker 1: think what I'm saying, But you can choose to have
Speaker 1: any energy towards me, and then I can choose to
Speaker 1: fall into it. I can choose to try to curb it.
Speaker 1: So it was cool that you can in that way,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, and I gotta understand that
Speaker 1: he an old press mind state. I gotta understand where
Speaker 1: he comes from. So if you want to, I like,
Speaker 1: he like, I ain't never listened to the song, but
Speaker 1: that had went through my The quickest way to get
Speaker 1: me piped up is through my girl. You know what,
Speaker 1: like with any other black man, like we're cool, we go,
Speaker 1: you talk shi blah blah blah blah. Then my girl
Speaker 1: get involved. I got the fun and it's just like
Speaker 1: I'm I'm I'm my kids, girl, my mom, all them.
Speaker 1: They think I'm out mine because I don't know you
Speaker 1: did what I'm saying. So that's what it was like,
Speaker 1: like damn, you know, it's like damn, so she gotta
Speaker 1: bring it to me, so now I gotta So. I
Speaker 1: didn't even listen to it because I felt like that
Speaker 1: would be I never listened to one distract. Yeah, but
Speaker 1: that helps if you like, I know, like the first
Speaker 1: part came on like something like dicking the booty, and
Speaker 1: so my first thing, like me being uh having a
Speaker 1: sense of human I was like, fam, I haven't thought
Speaker 1: about booty all that, you know what I'm saying, So
Speaker 1: so this stuff gonna make me think about stuff that
Speaker 1: I'm not even thinking about today. I don't even need.
Speaker 1: And it was like um on the I g when
Speaker 1: it was just playing the beginning of Her So I
Speaker 1: didn't go look up the song. Everybody else did and
Speaker 1: it was coming from like everybody else who wanted me
Speaker 1: to react. But it's like, what do you want me
Speaker 1: to do? Go to jail and do some a weight
Speaker 1: till he comes out like somebody that has a family,
Speaker 1: a life or whatever they do, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Because I have friends and concentrated, I pray that the
Speaker 1: man gets enough opportunity to get out here on the
Speaker 1: street absolutely and be able to do because it's like,
Speaker 1: it's it's it's it's like our right to spread our wings,
Speaker 1: to be able to breathe this freshhair, to baby, to
Speaker 1: see here amongst man conversate and do we want to do?
Speaker 1: It's grown me and not be told, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, so honestly, just to move on past this.
Speaker 1: I wish nothing but the best for him and his family,
Speaker 1: and we're gonna make some noise to that a little.
Speaker 1: The craziest thing about it all was I seen c
Speaker 1: murder one time in in the Source Awards in l A.
Speaker 1: And we have machine guns because this is the time
Speaker 1: where these niggas wrong on everybody right. So I was
Speaker 1: just like funk that it ain't happening to us. So
Speaker 1: we somehow we had got some machine guns. So we
Speaker 1: thought we was ill. We went on c murder toll bus.
Speaker 1: We were like Nigga, We scrapped nigga. Like we showed
Speaker 1: the nigga machine guys that nigga pulled out rightfuls. It's like,
Speaker 1: what are your niggas doing? We got rightfules and the
Speaker 1: nigga had a k and I was like, holy moly, moly.
Speaker 1: But when I did a video with you, to our
Speaker 1: video shoot, I came in to take a picture with you,
Speaker 1: y'all niggers had the same exact So I'm like you
Speaker 1: this this this is. That was God telling me these
Speaker 1: are the same people in quite different situations. But you
Speaker 1: should you you you have ability to come help out.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. So that's the reason why
Speaker 1: I called you, because you you you could have said
Speaker 1: one thing, and I'm telling you, the internet would have
Speaker 1: been crazy. I applaud you for being a grown man.
Speaker 1: I applaud you for uh, I don't want to say
Speaker 1: respecting your elders. But you know that's the first that
Speaker 1: as a person came They paid away for a lot
Speaker 1: of us down South. When they came in the door,
Speaker 1: that's when we started having them arguments. Master peep better
Speaker 1: than no easy to be like the funk out, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. But they would give us an
Speaker 1: argument because it wasn't that I don't think me understood
Speaker 1: like rhymes the skills said. It was more of like hustling.
Speaker 1: Them boys came in running it up so like you
Speaker 1: talked about Pete and they said something. Stuff wasn't even mixed.
Speaker 1: It was just just trip, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: And it's like that they gave us something to argue about,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. As a p came man,
Speaker 1: he gave us something to look up to. Ice cream
Speaker 1: and hustles. You know, gold Chief Cardier's all white, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. Riding nices brobably came in on
Speaker 1: the Kankster ship. You know what I'm saying. We had to.
Speaker 1: It's just like he put niggas on. You heard about
Speaker 1: what he did for niggas, so you know what I'm
Speaker 1: saying like now I was. I was. I was proud
Speaker 1: of you how you had in this situation because some
Speaker 1: you would give somebody advice and some people would just
Speaker 1: say whatever and say fuck you nigga. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. But you you understood that, and and and
Speaker 1: and and and and that is absolutely fantastic in my opinion.
Speaker 1: But as that happened to you though, because you were
Speaker 1: up beating a lot of these things. No, um, I
Speaker 1: swear that was God. Like I didn't ask to go
Speaker 1: on his man as to a bus to see like
Speaker 1: the same as that guns and see murder at Like
Speaker 1: I didn't ask that I wouldn't there to take a picture,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. But I felt the same
Speaker 1: exact that at that same exact moment when I walked
Speaker 1: on chains bus, I felt the same exact way when
Speaker 1: I walked on see murders bus. So when this incident occurred,
Speaker 1: I felt like that God had put me in that
Speaker 1: situation for that, you know what I mean? Because and
Speaker 1: I don't know, I think I was right. Let's make
Speaker 1: some noise for me thinking I was like you was
Speaker 1: trying you any word, And let me just tell you
Speaker 1: like this was the time big up check again, man chech.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, man, I was. I wouldn't so, I don't
Speaker 1: even remember that. I was trying to let let me
Speaker 1: tell you something to change you was so high at
Speaker 1: the moment, my nigger and I had a record and
Speaker 1: I was chasing it. I was chasing this record down,
Speaker 1: and I was blowing up this man phone. I was
Speaker 1: blowing up your phone, and Change said, I got you right.
Speaker 1: This is the only wrapper ever in history. He said,
Speaker 1: nor yall feel you up. That's what I knew. I said,
Speaker 1: it's my friend right because listen, if you ever have
Speaker 1: a relationship with somebody over ten years and y'all don't
Speaker 1: have a little dispute, get away from that. Don't take
Speaker 1: That's what I told my pocket box may fake to change.
Speaker 1: You always just been there, man, tech man, I appreciate you, guys. Man,
Speaker 1: you you've always just been there. But that's the first
Speaker 1: part the rapper that ever said, and I told him,
Speaker 1: I sayd y'all, I specialized in fighting tall new you know,
Speaker 1: and then he then I realized that that day on
Speaker 1: the court, you're actually not no fake play like that
Speaker 1: that that play when they show you on ESPN Duncan,
Speaker 1: like you're actually a real you could have been to
Speaker 1: the n b A. I'm not sure if if I've
Speaker 1: applied my work after the same work. When I realized
Speaker 1: what it took to be a successful hoop. I mean,
Speaker 1: you know, rapper because it's it's doing it every day
Speaker 1: no matter how good you are, Like God gives us
Speaker 1: a talent like you were probably born a rapper. I
Speaker 1: wasn't born a rapper. I was just going to somebody
Speaker 1: to inspire and hustle. But when I learned, when I
Speaker 1: got the game, I did it to I passed niggas
Speaker 1: that God gave a talent to. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: Like God, because because you got you got, you got
Speaker 1: Jordan Kobe, Lebron Okay. God gave all these niggas talent
Speaker 1: and they worked on their game. That's what made them
Speaker 1: who they are now. God gave I can name three
Speaker 1: other niggas talent and some of them not even in
Speaker 1: the league or they're at the same level that they
Speaker 1: are the God gave. So with me, what you get
Speaker 1: is like what you get is like somebody like a
Speaker 1: Dennis Rodman who works on this game and and and
Speaker 1: becomes a valuable and not just that, but like a
Speaker 1: lot of like a lot of artists who find their
Speaker 1: nets and just keep doing it. Like with this rap.
Speaker 1: I do it every single day. I do something every
Speaker 1: single day. I've been down here in three days. I've
Speaker 1: done like four songs. Geeked about all of them. I
Speaker 1: know him hard. I look at everybody in the room.
Speaker 1: I know niggas like I know him hard. Like no,
Speaker 1: I want to keep Yeah, I was doing something and
Speaker 1: tell us you like, can't we friends? Man, we gotta.
Speaker 1: I'm not to pick on first short like you don't
Speaker 1: want to get on something like real. When I have time,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna mop your ship. Listen, I got I gotta,
Speaker 1: I gotta slave to change because listen, first off, I
Speaker 1: haven't thought about writing a verse. Not CBS. It's taking
Speaker 1: care of us, five say, taking care of us. I
Speaker 1: got a food show that I'm doing. If you're in town,
Speaker 1: I know you're rich and you're gonna fly out. But
Speaker 1: if you're in town Friday, we're having um doing my
Speaker 1: full show. It's what MTV is. The first time I
Speaker 1: announced it on this podcast. Um uh, it's like a
Speaker 1: Anthony Bordain Man verse food, So you come out. We
Speaker 1: have drinks, advertise us. We have grilled octopus and ship
Speaker 1: like that. It's Friday. If you're still in town, I
Speaker 1: would love for you to come by and bug out
Speaker 1: and have fun on camera. Um. Yeah, so I'm into
Speaker 1: I'm into different things because I just feel like I'm
Speaker 1: thirty eight, right, and I'm I'm I'm a Santiago. But
Speaker 1: my maiden name, my mom's maiden name, is a Williams. Right.
Speaker 1: You ask anybody named Williams, they got bad knees. If
Speaker 1: they named Williams and they black, they got bad knees.
Speaker 1: Telling you so, I can't be on stage at forty change,
Speaker 1: I can't be on stage. Just keep doing it, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean. That's why I came up with
Speaker 1: all these lines, you know lines. It's just about creating
Speaker 1: multiple streams of revenue for artists. I mean, I love
Speaker 1: being on stage because I love the attention. But it's
Speaker 1: not nothing that I you don't want to do. Well,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do it my whole life, but I gotta
Speaker 1: have I can't, but it's hand on it. I gotta
Speaker 1: have other streams coming. At some point, does it feel
Speaker 1: like the stripper that was in the same club for
Speaker 1: ten years. When you want stage, like I felt like
Speaker 1: that the other day. Like one day I was like, niggas,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna performing. Niggas is like, YO, do bloody money
Speaker 1: and I'm like, I do bloody money. The niggas do
Speaker 1: Super Doug and I'm like, hold on, is these niggas
Speaker 1: doing money at me? Or so like they got requests
Speaker 1: like shake you know what I'm saying, Like I felt
Speaker 1: like that. We was in Russia, the university there was
Speaker 1: but it was too deep, so we had to do
Speaker 1: whatever the funk. They said, Let's make some noise being scared,
Speaker 1: but but let's keep it real. Like I like, you haven't.
Speaker 1: You haven't felt that feeling yet you're saying that where
Speaker 1: you just know. Well. The thing with me is, I
Speaker 1: remember when it was only fifteen people there, and now
Speaker 1: you tell them, I don't can't fifteen and fifteen thousand
Speaker 1: get y'all the show. So if even if it Benjamin
Speaker 1: buttons and goes from fifteen hundred people thousands and go
Speaker 1: back and futeen again, I'm gonna still do the same
Speaker 1: thing because especially right now when you got the internet
Speaker 1: where somebody can record that show a few people in
Speaker 1: only record your body reaction, and that can lead to
Speaker 1: other things like most expensive stuff. See what happens is
Speaker 1: a lot of people play off the energy of the
Speaker 1: actual people in the room. You have to really play
Speaker 1: the energy to these cameras right now because when they
Speaker 1: posted and all that stuff, and they don't know who
Speaker 1: he has a look behind him today, they don't know
Speaker 1: how many people behind him, so they don't know if
Speaker 1: it's nobody. If I'm like this is book, or if
Speaker 1: I'm like turned up because it's some beautiful strippers behind.
Speaker 1: They don't know you did what I'm saying? Oh he
Speaker 1: knows when they posted and they see me and whatever
Speaker 1: is you know what I'm saying. So by me understanding that,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna get the people what they won't no matter
Speaker 1: what kind of energy I'm giving them, it's like I'm
Speaker 1: having my own party on stage. You're kind of crazy
Speaker 1: if you don't, If you don't get what's going on,
Speaker 1: because you had to like the most Buffardo bolivious, how
Speaker 1: to use the Buffarto, how to use the Buffoto lawsuit? Ever,
Speaker 1: like the check comes fast stage, she wants to be
Speaker 1: there and snug in, snug In snug in like that
Speaker 1: was the like like that was like the dumbest lawsuit.
Speaker 1: Family told to leave, like you know, the cameras like
Speaker 1: what y'all soul is what y'all saw. But it was
Speaker 1: more footage than that, but just other stories that. Um,
Speaker 1: I got two daughters of my own, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. So I'm very conscious of my female interaction period.
Speaker 1: I have a higher respect for females and I'm not
Speaker 1: thirsty individual. I'm not trying to make nobody's book room
Speaker 1: or meal none of that stuff. Friends cool, whatever what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. This particular person was back there. I'm not
Speaker 1: sure who she was looking for. All our asked her
Speaker 1: to do was basically leave. Because girls that move by
Speaker 1: theirself anyway, I always feel like I'm not girls should
Speaker 1: have a friend. You can't just just be back here
Speaker 1: right now, just you and you don't know nobody. It's
Speaker 1: just imagine right now, back here with all these men standing,
Speaker 1: what this Mendican is right here, but you don't know
Speaker 1: nobody in the rooms? Yeah, why was she back there? Dolo?
Speaker 1: I didn't understand what I'm saying, so it's like I
Speaker 1: don't want to and then it's like, I got a
Speaker 1: bunch of people up here from Atlanta. You know what,
Speaker 1: I'm saying that, no my situation, what's going on? So
Speaker 1: let's just get you please, let's get you out of here.
Speaker 1: You know. She playing and wasting time and all of that.
Speaker 1: Ain't know, and it just became something that it kind
Speaker 1: of blew out of proportion, and she kind of, in
Speaker 1: my opinion, helped it go into proportion because I didn't.
Speaker 1: I didn't. Once I did what I did. Once whatever
Speaker 1: happened happened, I was done with it. She kept bringing
Speaker 1: it up. She's actually sewing again right now for what
Speaker 1: for the song? Yeah, for the song, don't worry you
Speaker 1: don't gotta say she's I'm saying she's Ali again. She
Speaker 1: thinks I'm trying to put her head out on it.
Speaker 1: And it's likely even had that kind of ENERGYR time,
Speaker 1: like when I moved past something, moved past something, and
Speaker 1: I feel I feel sorry for because who ELP was
Speaker 1: looking at hearing this right now honestly, and the reason
Speaker 1: I have impressed the issues. I honestly, honestly feel like
Speaker 1: something is wrong with it. I looked at it in
Speaker 1: the eyes before, and that's just my personal pink. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. I've heard the same thing from
Speaker 1: people in her neighborhood, people in her community, but not
Speaker 1: just saying it like because where was this that? Where
Speaker 1: did that happen? That it was in North Carolina something.
Speaker 1: It's like, you know what I'm saying, not right. So
Speaker 1: that's why I can't be like stupid creep and whatever.
Speaker 1: I don't want to do that because I feel like
Speaker 1: something kind of wrong with Now. Let me ask you
Speaker 1: this being a Luta uh has something to do with
Speaker 1: your beginning of your career. Lula's read, he moved on,
Speaker 1: He's done seven Fast and Furious movies, you know all this,
Speaker 1: But in the music sense, he's kind of lost his space.
Speaker 1: Would signing Luda be something you will be interested in? You? No,
Speaker 1: look as Luda won't do it. He's a very proper
Speaker 1: and he's a virgo too. He's going right the day
Speaker 1: before me. So that's kind of one of the things
Speaker 1: that made us click. But now he wouldn't he wouldn't
Speaker 1: do that, you know what I'm saying. Um, and then
Speaker 1: Luda still one thing about Louda and one thing about
Speaker 1: this and you know it's when we catch our a
Speaker 1: few little shows and how I we can go. We
Speaker 1: can go get us some money anytime a loud loud
Speaker 1: I watched and I watched Himpion's with my homie Faith
Speaker 1: they do. He's constantly doing shows. So I think he's
Speaker 1: dope that he's became such a high caliber actor because
Speaker 1: this could be his other stream of revenue. That man
Speaker 1: you were talking about. But you gotta know that like
Speaker 1: once once your you, it was the man, and then
Speaker 1: you go on, you do something else. When you come
Speaker 1: back to the game, you're not quite the same. But
Speaker 1: even even even when like your affiliation with Kanye, like
Speaker 1: you were hot, bubbling on your own. But to tell
Speaker 1: you the truth, Kanye stole your aura. What I mean
Speaker 1: by that is your energy was like sometimes a person
Speaker 1: energy could be so good that I don't like, I
Speaker 1: gotta do is stand next to you. I ain't gonna
Speaker 1: do nothing else. Well I do is stand next to
Speaker 1: you and I take some of your aura. And you
Speaker 1: know what I mean? Dr Dre does it? For Roll
Speaker 1: does it? Kanye does it? If you're the hottest thing
Speaker 1: in the world, who did he did? He does it?
Speaker 1: If you're the hottest thing in the world. Sometimes I don't.
Speaker 1: You don't even gotta do a verse for me. You
Speaker 1: don't gotta do an interview. All that is coming to
Speaker 1: my studio and I can observe the positivity that's coming
Speaker 1: from you, and being that you don't think, you don't
Speaker 1: think Little would just say, you know what changed? I
Speaker 1: don't that your executive producing. I heard you say it
Speaker 1: was A and R and I had you know, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna put this out here, and he knows it like
Speaker 1: I did it before I left them. I did um.
Speaker 1: I was supposed to be erin are in his last project,
Speaker 1: Little Verse or something just before I left. And so
Speaker 1: there's a couple of thousand left open and he'd be
Speaker 1: wanting his little money and stuff. There's a couple of
Speaker 1: thousands left over that he owes me I did the
Speaker 1: job or not I was contractually bind to. It was
Speaker 1: a few thousand. They want to know big thousand. But
Speaker 1: as of right now, all my beach and is scrap.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. It's it ain't merge. It ain't.
Speaker 1: But I got my front in and I seen you
Speaker 1: shool the other day. I see it, and I know
Speaker 1: they think like And then when I see like I'd
Speaker 1: be so like, damn, ain't see you so long, I
Speaker 1: forget to set. But now it's on my mother, it's
Speaker 1: on my mind. It's a couple of thousands that it's
Speaker 1: whether because it's some beats that he did rap over
Speaker 1: that I set him when it was on the album
Speaker 1: or not. So yeah, I'm gonna need that a little bit.
Speaker 1: Let's I ain't gonna lie see Luda shock. What's the other, Jeff.
Speaker 1: I see all of them in Toronto All Star weekend,
Speaker 1: so we're eating in the same restaurant. I sent them
Speaker 1: to bottles. They sent me two bottles. I sent them
Speaker 1: two more bottles and the Rachel's said they are dimes,
Speaker 1: no more. And you know, they're so rich. They should
Speaker 1: have just took their bottles and see me two more.
Speaker 1: But they stopped. Like you know, they are very they
Speaker 1: are setting their ways and they are cool. I was
Speaker 1: great to see him. Big up Saluda, big up to
Speaker 1: the whole staff, you know what I mean. But I
Speaker 1: think I think Luda should signed to you. You know,
Speaker 1: I know it was a question that I asked you,
Speaker 1: But I think he should sign because how dope was
Speaker 1: that when um Puff put on big and then and
Speaker 1: then Big wrote for Puff and was gonna executive. It
Speaker 1: was gonna manage Puff. That moment that the hip hop
Speaker 1: for me was like, that's what it's all about. I
Speaker 1: put you on you know better than me, Let me
Speaker 1: help out. It was still so dope too. He needs
Speaker 1: the right record, not ludless though. I think I think that, um.
Speaker 1: I think that what you don't realize to change is, um,
Speaker 1: you're actually a producer. But what I mean by that
Speaker 1: is once you have more than three or four hits,
Speaker 1: five hits, it doesn't matter, it's your voice actually helps
Speaker 1: the producer. You tell a producer what to do, and
Speaker 1: I think that you can do that. That's what Fat
Speaker 1: Joe has finally realized, is that he's a producer. Because see,
Speaker 1: people think producing is this, but it's not. It's turned
Speaker 1: out of that base. Put up that tremble. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Uh, put more on the horns. Make
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. That's what producing is. And
Speaker 1: then when you have it, that's why you have so
Speaker 1: many like great producers. That was what a puff Daddy
Speaker 1: or what a dre or what a earth Guidi or
Speaker 1: what a shot money Excel And then these producers leave
Speaker 1: and then these duces, these producers are working on ups.
Speaker 1: It's because it's the chemistry which makes it work. So
Speaker 1: I want to applaud you for continue to do with
Speaker 1: your thing, doing your thing, and I think that you should.
Speaker 1: I think Luda, if you're listening to this, I think
Speaker 1: you designed TRU right. I'm starting to rum right now. Listen,
Speaker 1: Luda is signed to the TRU. We started to rumor
Speaker 1: right now. We don't know if it's gonna become true.
Speaker 1: When we're starting to rum on Luda and you're gonna
Speaker 1: pick up Shanna too. You wanna pick up Shawna. You're
Speaker 1: gonna solution sh um DTP have they run too? When
Speaker 1: I was around there when everybody that's I learned a
Speaker 1: lot families woun't really have nothing negative to say because
Speaker 1: I was around when you know, when SHINGI was very
Speaker 1: successful in doing numbers, and Bobby V and a few
Speaker 1: other cats that was, you know, doing things, and I
Speaker 1: learned everything from I learned everything from product placement to
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, certain deal structures and everything.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. So for me, I try
Speaker 1: to learn from each experience with a good of it,
Speaker 1: like you left them like um when you like, I
Speaker 1: hate when rappers leave a crew and then they be like, man,
Speaker 1: funk that cruel. That cruel. You didn't do that because
Speaker 1: we all still got the same phone number and that's yeah,
Speaker 1: and we're gonna see each other at the game. And
Speaker 1: I just want to applaud you for that, because I
Speaker 1: hate when a person is down with EFL. I'm just
Speaker 1: using your example, calmed down and wrappers down with ef
Speaker 1: and and then they leave ef and and they're like, man,
Speaker 1: if he got great here in his beard and you
Speaker 1: know what I mean, like and it's like what you
Speaker 1: was with this guy for ten years. It's like if
Speaker 1: it didn't work out, it didn't work out like I did.
Speaker 1: I did a business deal with jay Z right, it
Speaker 1: was horrible. It doesn't make him a bad business man,
Speaker 1: doesn't make me a bad businessman, and make the situation
Speaker 1: that we had bad. Other than that, everything stays the same,
Speaker 1: Like I ain't got nothing bad to say about him,
Speaker 1: and hopefully he ain't got another bad to say about me.
Speaker 1: I want him to call me, no more hold then't
Speaker 1: call me, leave me alone. I'm so scared of you, hope.
Speaker 1: But listen. So I was I want to applaud you
Speaker 1: because you was one of the dudes that actually stepped
Speaker 1: outside said you know what I'm gonna do me and
Speaker 1: you never actually shipping on them. I gotta make some
Speaker 1: noise for that. Come on, why do you think because
Speaker 1: I'm sure you was frustrated because the reason why you left,
Speaker 1: Why do you think you never took that approach? Mm hmm.
Speaker 1: I think me knowing or me assuming that they think
Speaker 1: that I would do that will just drive them crazy enough.
Speaker 1: Just now, you gotta listen to everything all the way
Speaker 1: through to see if it's a shot taken when you're
Speaker 1: not even on my mind right, So that was still
Speaker 1: like another psychological angle for me to just know that
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna say nothing, but you gotta listen to
Speaker 1: make sure that none of this has anything to do
Speaker 1: with you today. I still do that. I never I
Speaker 1: never have anything negative to say, but I know you
Speaker 1: just gotta make sure. It's just one of the things
Speaker 1: where you know, I'm kind of a little lose. You're
Speaker 1: not sure where I'm mentally because you're not around, so
Speaker 1: you don't know like the family changed me or of
Speaker 1: this incident make me back whacko again. So he's like,
Speaker 1: you don't know what on my arm? And I kind
Speaker 1: of like that right well to chances. Let me just
Speaker 1: tell you, man, I call you the new King of
Speaker 1: the South. I don't know if you're gonna take that
Speaker 1: attribute now, Tia the King of the South. I respect
Speaker 1: tyr to I say, I said the new King, yeah
Speaker 1: right now? And oh that said a lot of guys
Speaker 1: doing honestly coming from you, And I ain't mean to
Speaker 1: break you off. I appreciate that, fan. I remember I
Speaker 1: got some stories about me and your mother. Let's go,
Speaker 1: you're gonnambarrassing. I ain't gonna a lot, Oh like I
Speaker 1: ain't gonna a lot when I go to New York.
Speaker 1: You know what I say? He wanted the first New
Speaker 1: York Cats giving me some fucking with. And I always
Speaker 1: wanted some fun with from New York Cats because okay,
Speaker 1: they gotta break down. That's hard. What is that like? Somebody?
Speaker 1: So you know what I'm saying, I link up with
Speaker 1: the boy in New York. Time be come kicking with him.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. He got everybody muslining his
Speaker 1: whole crew. That lets you know too, Chain has been
Speaker 1: down for he'd been a continued he taking a million
Speaker 1: out of Texas. Okay, so um, and so like, you know,
Speaker 1: I'm going around with him and it's like, at this
Speaker 1: particular time, at this particular time, I drunk, I called
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, And all I drunk at
Speaker 1: this particular time was hennessy, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: And take don't even noticed something like he taking me
Speaker 1: to these little lobbies, you know what I'm saying, that
Speaker 1: the hotel lobbies in New York. He's a little bar
Speaker 1: and ship like this. So I don't even know. I'm not.
Speaker 1: I'm trying to you know, he's trying to show me
Speaker 1: really this how you do. You don't have to stay here.
Speaker 1: You can come in here to trinks, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. So I'm going to places and he's like
Speaker 1: these these people don't have hennessy. You know, I'm really like,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, you need to try to
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, po grie. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. I drink this ship. I don't drink at all.
Speaker 1: When I drank, I drink peanut agreed. So he got
Speaker 1: me on this peanut greede your ship and you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. We go some whales and he telling me,
Speaker 1: you know about something Tiger Paul ship. I'm saying, I
Speaker 1: don't know about families hard calling. Get change some of that.
Speaker 1: I'm thinking. I said, you gotta have a vet, you
Speaker 1: gotta have a victim for you take. You just can't
Speaker 1: be on tier bone. Don't have nothing to sam. I'm changing.
Speaker 1: I don't give me this ship. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I ain't got no vic on the list. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. I gotta deal with this pressure. You
Speaker 1: did what I'm saying, and I started really I like, man,
Speaker 1: this crazy. You know what I'm saying. I went to
Speaker 1: the studio. You know what I'm saying. It was crazy
Speaker 1: for home, It was really crazy. For the studio. I
Speaker 1: was dol you know what I'm saying. And I would
Speaker 1: just want to get some of that that New York coach.
Speaker 1: But I just hung around them, guys. I was observing
Speaker 1: and Nori is the reason why I drink peanut grese peut.
Speaker 1: I need a nor'all. I need something, come on hollo
Speaker 1: at me. But you change. That's what um A Maya about.
Speaker 1: You is. You're not afraid to step out your zone.
Speaker 1: Um what was that video you just had? Um? You
Speaker 1: shouting on Fort Lauderdale Beach. Oh yeah, I'm different, Yo,
Speaker 1: My dude, that ship and pitomized who you are. It's
Speaker 1: like you you different. You went to Fort Lauderdale Beach
Speaker 1: on a boat. It wasn't in the water that was hard.
Speaker 1: I was sitting back, like, I'm just so proud of
Speaker 1: you because you know why, I've seen your grind and
Speaker 1: as much as I I saw it, I knew I
Speaker 1: didn't have the power to help as like a jay
Speaker 1: Z could help. Wall ludicant help. And you saw the
Speaker 1: acts in the motherfucking tunnel and where you are. I
Speaker 1: always text you, and I know, I know you'd probably
Speaker 1: be proud of I mean, I know you'd probably be like,
Speaker 1: I'm tired of these texts, But I always be like,
Speaker 1: I'm proud of you, brother, Keep going because I want
Speaker 1: you to be the richest dude in the fucking world.
Speaker 1: I want you to be the the illest guy in
Speaker 1: the world and to keep doing it because I know
Speaker 1: that you're a real nigger. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: And if and I told this, like people like when
Speaker 1: Fat Joe wins, I win, when two chains win, I win.
Speaker 1: It doesn't matter, my dude. We don't need I don't
Speaker 1: need nothing. I appreciate and respect what you're doing to
Speaker 1: this game. I want you to continue to do that
Speaker 1: and put your foot on a fucking neck and just
Speaker 1: keep it dead but preferably timberlane. When you do that,
Speaker 1: because funk these niggas changed, Keep doing what you gotta do. Man,
Speaker 1: Now what is left for to change what is? And
Speaker 1: then we will go about, well, we gotta I'm shooting
Speaker 1: a movie. I'm shooting like your movie or you and
Speaker 1: somebody no shooting. I'm shooting my movie at the end
Speaker 1: of May in Atlanta. Will take a week to do. Um.
Speaker 1: If we don't get let me be the grimy nigg
Speaker 1: maybe the New York grammy nigg in the movie. Yeah,
Speaker 1: g yeah, yeah yeah. Let me let me the New
Speaker 1: York grim nigger that come through because I can't change
Speaker 1: my accents that. But it's a movie called Apartments and
Speaker 1: Apartments No no, a just part Okay, that's said. I
Speaker 1: gotta be there in five e me hole, me hold
Speaker 1: and fat you all all from five E. So if
Speaker 1: you gotta that's hard. We're all from five E. That's hard.
Speaker 1: It's a lumina. You gotta get it to a secret,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So yeah, so tell me
Speaker 1: about this movie. I think I got a movie coming out,
Speaker 1: Like if you didn't get a chance to see um
Speaker 1: Walking Your Trap and take Over Your Trap. It was
Speaker 1: a bank Rose film that my same team UM shot,
Speaker 1: put together and shot. So this was a movie that
Speaker 1: I had been writing for some time. I liked bank Roll.
Speaker 1: Actually gave him a chance and it came out hard.
Speaker 1: And so you know how you just take somebody to
Speaker 1: give you a chance and then like for me, sometimes
Speaker 1: I'm the one to give people a chance and something
Speaker 1: I gotta wait to see what's going on. Like everybody else,
Speaker 1: you did what I'm saying, And it's a comedy or street. No,
Speaker 1: it's like a street. It's like the whole concept is
Speaker 1: taking place inside of a instide of apartment complex. It's
Speaker 1: like some trouts and trip relations of like every day
Speaker 1: like you know, kind of like showing the inner inner
Speaker 1: city trappings and where it really comes from. And because
Speaker 1: trapping really came from apartment complex as you come in
Speaker 1: and it was before you know, even before you had
Speaker 1: That's why they named the trap houses. And then tramp
Speaker 1: houses turned the band door and you can just talk
Speaker 1: about how for them. But originally a trap was apartment complex.
Speaker 1: That was that was the only place that you can
Speaker 1: really trap. You go to apartment complex, even when you
Speaker 1: didn't stay there. That's what people came kind of like
Speaker 1: how the Carter Dictator and show that. So it's like,
Speaker 1: you know, you come men. You know earlier when I
Speaker 1: started trapping, in the situation where you actually ran to cars,
Speaker 1: it would be forty is running the one car trying
Speaker 1: to serve somebody. It got real messy. And then you
Speaker 1: started organizing the trap. You started going one at a time.
Speaker 1: Nor you get the next car, I get the next car.
Speaker 1: You get the next car, not knowing what car would
Speaker 1: come in, but hoping that the next car had money.
Speaker 1: But being in the trap, you already know what cars
Speaker 1: spend money. You already know who come. And then it
Speaker 1: went from from you know, I'm from the Beefer era,
Speaker 1: from the pay phone era. I'm from the star Tech
Speaker 1: era with the flip phone, neednory tech, star Tech, uh
Speaker 1: and so you know all of that. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying and So although we won't give that whole
Speaker 1: um um, you know, the whole history of trapping, We're
Speaker 1: gonna show you some you know, a good storyline. Yo,
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna lie whatever noise that is. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: need something this drinking um and so it's just it's
Speaker 1: just it has a great storyline. It's gonna have some
Speaker 1: comedy in it because I'll enjoy company. Yeah, and and
Speaker 1: it's coming out and so I'm doing music and soundtrack
Speaker 1: Harass Tech. So I'm doing music and I'm doing um
Speaker 1: some soundtrack stuff for it right now because I'm thinking ahead.
Speaker 1: And then I'm also doing another album this year. So
Speaker 1: College Grove is out right now. It's my dedication to
Speaker 1: my friend, my brother, one of my favorite rappers, Little Wayne.
Speaker 1: Make sure you get that, Colleague Grove. And then my
Speaker 1: next album and film, um, we'll be dropping this year,
Speaker 1: so I'll be looking out for and then CEO make
Speaker 1: sure you get um CEO Millionaires dot com. Also, Strip
Speaker 1: Club Veterans is my other line that I'll be launching
Speaker 1: May first, speaking, Strip Club Veteran wear one of those shirts, yeah,
Speaker 1: I got I got one for you, I got one
Speaker 1: for you. And Trapic Valley trapor Vellley is Trapp Store.
Speaker 1: So it's on It's on Peter Street. That's my pop
Speaker 1: up store. Um um. And so three million Nicka is
Speaker 1: listening to chains and keeping I don't know I'm lying,
Speaker 1: but get the paperworking, man. I don't care for people listening.
Speaker 1: I appreciate everybody. I really thank you, man. We really
Speaker 1: need that movie because you know why. Let me just
Speaker 1: tell you something like South, the West, the East, there's
Speaker 1: no motherfucking difference. The only difference is some people speak
Speaker 1: like this, some people don't right, but about it. About
Speaker 1: it was single handedly the first time New York people
Speaker 1: was like, the South is crazy, So is it like
Speaker 1: about it? About it? This movie you're talking about or
Speaker 1: it's like this is Friday? Were about about it. It
Speaker 1: moved a culture because it showed that accent and showed
Speaker 1: how they moved to New Orleans. It was good for
Speaker 1: the coach and in Atlanta to be cool to everybody.
Speaker 1: Know that we break a lot of our words the
Speaker 1: real Atlantic, and that's important for me. You know, That's
Speaker 1: what I mean. That's why I told you apartments, because
Speaker 1: no one ever said apartments. That's how hard everment we
Speaker 1: spread in the room right now, apartment is in there.
Speaker 1: I don't know what I'm in. The janitor, I don't
Speaker 1: know whom the New York Puerto Rican guy. Yeah, come on,
Speaker 1: but let's make noise when you change. Hold on. I
Speaker 1: can't thank you enough for my brother. At the end
Speaker 1: of the day, you really didn't have to do this.
Speaker 1: She was he was. He was doing million dollars ship,
Speaker 1: shooting six videos with a little Wayne, taking your part
Speaker 1: out and looking at the most beautifulst woman in the world,
Speaker 1: Beyonce to perform. And you still stopped, and you had
Speaker 1: you had tech call, you had yourself call. It was
Speaker 1: so uh down with this and I really appreciate that
Speaker 1: because at the end of the day, this is where
Speaker 1: the artists win. When a DJ comes on here, they win.
Speaker 1: This is and people who want to come on this show,
Speaker 1: I'm being wanted to say, honest, yes I have favoritism,
Speaker 1: and I'm interviewing the people that I want to interview.
Speaker 1: High f be a fan. We interviewing legends. There's a
Speaker 1: lot of legends out there. But guess what, I want
Speaker 1: to interview the legends that I funk with that I
Speaker 1: talked to, and I got so many of them and
Speaker 1: I just want to thank you for being a great sport.
Speaker 1: You let me ask you any question. You don't stop me.
Speaker 1: You ain't be like I ain't gonna talk about that.
Speaker 1: And I just want to thank you because you're a
Speaker 1: real nigga. And I see that activists it's working. It
Speaker 1: is fantastic. So describe the activists high before we leave.
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Speaker 1: I got cars drinks. Listen, CARROSSI from his neck like
Speaker 1: you know when you next wing, you know you fucked up.
Speaker 1: Like his next started swearing. I was like, Chris, you
Speaker 1: gotta go. I gave because I know, like if your
Speaker 1: next sweat, you've got to change once again. If and
Speaker 1: thank you for having another great podcast. Everybody that's in
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