WEBVTT - The New York Mayor's Race 0:00:02.279 --> 0:00:04.840 You are listening to waiting on reparations and production of 0:00:04.880 --> 0:00:21.880 I Heart Radio. Hey, what's happening. I'm linga franca, I'm 0:00:21.960 --> 0:00:25.640 dope knife, and we are waiting on reparations. You know, 0:00:25.720 --> 0:00:28.000 we we've been messing up on that for like the 0:00:28.120 --> 0:00:30.840 last like four weeks. Fantastic. We used to have it 0:00:30.960 --> 0:00:32.760 like in sync where we would come out like both 0:00:32.760 --> 0:00:36.400 at the same time. Anyway, hurry out, motherfucker. How you doing. 0:00:36.800 --> 0:00:39.440 I'm doing good. I'm doing good. How about you? I'm good, 0:00:39.440 --> 0:00:43.720 I'm good. I'm staying staying healthy, staying working, staying busy. Fantastic. 0:00:44.520 --> 0:00:46.920 I imagine you're staying busy. I mean, I'm just imagined. 0:00:47.360 --> 0:00:49.320 Und Yeah, we're voting on the We're voting on the 0:00:49.360 --> 0:00:52.400 city budget. By the time you will have will be 0:00:52.440 --> 0:00:55.040 hearing this episode, we will have improved our three hundred 0:00:55.080 --> 0:00:59.520 something million dollars city budget improved. So yeah, I feel 0:00:59.520 --> 0:01:01.120 pretty caught. Feel like I got the votes for what 0:01:01.160 --> 0:01:03.840 I want to do. It's not everything, but it is 0:01:03.840 --> 0:01:06.800 still pretty transformative. We're like trying to raise the We 0:01:06.920 --> 0:01:09.640 are going to raise the minimum wage for city employees 0:01:09.760 --> 0:01:15.000 fifteen an hour, fund a non police crisis response agency 0:01:15.280 --> 0:01:19.400 UM and like increase our homeless services, like funding by 0:01:21.080 --> 0:01:23.880 like a lot of really dope stuff. Yeah, not everything 0:01:23.920 --> 0:01:27.280 I wanted, but pretty close. Yeah, I'm looking at you. 0:01:27.280 --> 0:01:30.960 You see you don't seem like as enthusiastic as I 0:01:30.959 --> 0:01:34.959 would imagine, you know, Yeah, I mean you always went 0:01:35.040 --> 0:01:37.160 bigger and better, like obviously I would, I would, I 0:01:37.160 --> 0:01:39.680 mean the other would love to. Just I often speak 0:01:39.680 --> 0:01:42.959 as if like, well, if I was the czar of Athens, Georgia, 0:01:43.480 --> 0:01:45.320 this is what we would do. But I am not. 0:01:45.680 --> 0:01:48.240 I am subject to the laws of the state and 0:01:48.320 --> 0:01:52.480 the federal government. Um, and so there's some things we 0:01:52.520 --> 0:01:54.240 can't do. Like you know, we can't raise the city 0:01:54.240 --> 0:01:57.279 wide minimum wage, but we can't raise it for our 0:01:57.520 --> 0:02:00.200 you know, our employees, which is gonna affect a couple 0:02:00.280 --> 0:02:02.440 hundred people, so like something that is pretty cool, but 0:02:02.560 --> 0:02:04.920 like but still there's so many people living in poverty, 0:02:05.240 --> 0:02:06.800 you know, like we can do that a little bit 0:02:06.880 --> 0:02:08.919 that's within our control, whether it's like still so many 0:02:08.960 --> 0:02:11.679 issues left and resolved. So I if I don't sound 0:02:11.760 --> 0:02:14.680 more stoked about it, that's why, you know, just for 0:02:14.720 --> 0:02:18.320 your personal health, you know, just like you know, you 0:02:18.360 --> 0:02:22.040 know that there's a larger battle but enjoy the joy 0:02:22.080 --> 0:02:24.160 the win. You know what I'm saying, like, like take 0:02:24.240 --> 0:02:25.839 some time because like there's a lot of hard work. 0:02:25.880 --> 0:02:27.880 I'm sure I went into that. Oh my god, Yes, 0:02:27.960 --> 0:02:30.639 it's been it's been a nightmare. But it's almost over. 0:02:30.880 --> 0:02:33.560 And then yeah, and then you were me and you 0:02:33.639 --> 0:02:37.360 were going to catch up in Savannah. We got coming up. 0:02:37.480 --> 0:02:40.480 We got a big show coming up in Savannah at 0:02:40.520 --> 0:02:45.639 a El Roco. That's part of the Half a Half 0:02:45.440 --> 0:02:48.560 a half. So there's there's a there's a there's a 0:02:48.560 --> 0:02:52.440 half marathon and Athens called the ath Half and so 0:02:52.520 --> 0:02:55.680 they're having a music festival. Bar owner who's from Athens, 0:02:55.680 --> 0:02:58.600 who recently relocated to Savannah to open a bar down there. 0:02:59.000 --> 0:03:04.000 It's having a m civil predominantly Athens artists. Um. That 0:03:04.200 --> 0:03:06.960 is a play on the name of this half marathon 0:03:07.000 --> 0:03:09.040 that's here. It's it's pretty silly, but the lineup is 0:03:09.080 --> 0:03:12.799 pretty great. We'll be playing at El Roco Lounge on Saturday, 0:03:13.160 --> 0:03:16.280 June UM, so you should come through. Should really fun 0:03:16.320 --> 0:03:19.160 if you are in the Georgia area or far other field. 0:03:19.160 --> 0:03:23.480 I've talked to folks from Hartford, Connecticut, Birmingham, Alabama, Athens, 0:03:23.520 --> 0:03:26.840 Ohio who are coming down for I think people are 0:03:26.880 --> 0:03:31.360 like thirsty for music after a year and a half, 0:03:31.440 --> 0:03:33.560 So people are coming in from all over to catch 0:03:33.639 --> 0:03:35.240 this show. And I hope you will as well. If 0:03:35.240 --> 0:03:39.720 you're listening to this, I will be a very stoked 0:03:39.720 --> 0:03:42.440 to see you. Oh yeah, I'm definitely looking forward to it. 0:03:42.520 --> 0:03:47.720 But um, next week is also the Democratic primary for 0:03:47.760 --> 0:03:50.880 the New York City mayor's race. In New York being 0:03:50.920 --> 0:03:53.360 the birthplace of hip hop, we thought we'd take a 0:03:53.360 --> 0:03:55.240 look at some of the front running candidates, some of 0:03:55.240 --> 0:04:00.480 their controversies, their stances, and why why all of this 0:04:00.600 --> 0:04:05.080 matters for us for you know, the spectators farther afield 0:04:05.240 --> 0:04:08.640 than Gotham City. UM. I don't really watch sports, but 0:04:08.760 --> 0:04:12.760 for me, New York politics is kind of my spectator sport. UM. 0:04:12.800 --> 0:04:21.080 I think just given its outsized um, just place in 0:04:21.120 --> 0:04:23.960 the public imagination. Like, you know, New York is so 0:04:24.080 --> 0:04:28.600 dominant in our media. So many media corporations centered themselves. 0:04:28.680 --> 0:04:32.360 They're like physically their offices, um, and so a lot 0:04:32.400 --> 0:04:35.359 of their narratives end up getting amplified in the national 0:04:35.440 --> 0:04:38.920 media as well. UM. It's just something that kind of happened. 0:04:38.960 --> 0:04:41.640 It's like happenstance like, oh, you just get our awash 0:04:41.760 --> 0:04:44.680 in news about New York. But I think to a 0:04:44.800 --> 0:04:48.120 broader extent, it also feels like a sense of uh, 0:04:48.120 --> 0:04:50.599 like for telling, what is possible for someone you know, 0:04:51.040 --> 0:04:54.880 located in the South, um looking at a place like 0:04:54.920 --> 0:04:58.239 New York, Like what could we what what could we achieve? 0:04:58.320 --> 0:05:00.880 What could the gamut? What that can be run in 0:05:01.000 --> 0:05:05.599 terms of like uh, public policy? Um, what does like 0:05:05.640 --> 0:05:09.360 a really progressive place look like? Uh? Stuff like that. 0:05:09.480 --> 0:05:11.960 And so that's to me why I kind of get 0:05:11.960 --> 0:05:14.040 into New York politics too. I can't really say that 0:05:14.160 --> 0:05:16.880 coming up that I was, you know, had all that 0:05:16.960 --> 0:05:19.760 big of an interest in New York City politics. It's 0:05:19.800 --> 0:05:21.680 been one of those kind of things that you know, 0:05:21.839 --> 0:05:25.360 usually it comes up in the peripherals, you know, where 0:05:25.400 --> 0:05:27.600 it's like it's going on, and I'm aware of it. 0:05:27.680 --> 0:05:32.080 Who rarely have ever been into the minutia of any 0:05:32.120 --> 0:05:36.799 of that stuff. I mean there's the you know, stuff 0:05:36.800 --> 0:05:40.360 that got national coverage that I remember, like I remember 0:05:40.560 --> 0:05:44.400 when Giuliani one, I remember when Hillary Clinton was running 0:05:44.440 --> 0:05:48.240 for Senate, you know, like I remember when the Blasio one, 0:05:48.279 --> 0:05:51.240 I remember a sc winning. Just stuff that would get 0:05:51.520 --> 0:05:55.280 the attention of somebody who's otherwise not really following it 0:05:55.360 --> 0:06:00.440 like that. Uh, this past one, just this seems to 0:06:00.520 --> 0:06:04.159 have been, you know it, you know, from my perspective, 0:06:05.760 --> 0:06:10.159 the one of the more nationally publicized New York races. 0:06:10.240 --> 0:06:12.720 I don't know if that's because of the involvement of 0:06:13.040 --> 0:06:16.799 you know, candidates like Andrew Yang or Miah Wiley who 0:06:17.120 --> 0:06:22.599 have like media exposure, but yeah, it's like, I'm this 0:06:22.600 --> 0:06:25.120 this one kind of seems way more in my face 0:06:25.720 --> 0:06:28.640 than New York races of the past, Although in the 0:06:28.760 --> 0:06:31.719 last month or so, I think it's kind of cooled 0:06:31.760 --> 0:06:33.920 off a little bit. I don't know, I mean, at 0:06:33.960 --> 0:06:36.719 least it doesn't seem like it's not that big of 0:06:36.720 --> 0:06:38.840 a national story. Do you think it's Do they have 0:06:38.960 --> 0:06:42.240 to do with like the increased politicization of like just 0:06:42.440 --> 0:06:45.200 mainstream discourse, Like over the course of the pandemic, I 0:06:45.200 --> 0:06:48.279 feel like people have just been paying attention to politics more. Yeah, 0:06:48.680 --> 0:06:51.240 I know you have always made attention to politics, but 0:06:51.360 --> 0:06:54.279 like I never like, you know, I've become increasingly involved 0:06:54.320 --> 0:06:56.919 in policy, even as an elected official, paying attention to 0:06:56.920 --> 0:06:59.040 policy in other places a lot more throughout the pandemic, 0:06:59.400 --> 0:07:01.880 both from the stance of being like help captive, but 0:07:02.200 --> 0:07:05.120 I don't have fucking ship elsewhere to go or do 0:07:05.160 --> 0:07:07.680 you know? And also just like caring more because I've 0:07:07.720 --> 0:07:10.600 seen like, oh shit, PIC policy is failing us in 0:07:10.640 --> 0:07:13.680 a huge way. Maybe I should start learning about what 0:07:13.760 --> 0:07:17.800 other municipalities are doing about it or how are how 0:07:17.880 --> 0:07:20.400 they're failing so we can avoid the same pipas. Oh no, 0:07:20.480 --> 0:07:23.360 I mean I agree. I think that's it, like totally. 0:07:23.400 --> 0:07:27.200 I think people have a general I have generally have 0:07:27.360 --> 0:07:30.640 like more of an interest in politics, and then you 0:07:30.680 --> 0:07:33.080 know that not not even to like state it like 0:07:33.120 --> 0:07:36.120 it's any sort of like conspiracy and nefarious thing, but 0:07:36.760 --> 0:07:40.360 I think like the media ecosystem recognizing that people have 0:07:40.480 --> 0:07:43.760 that increased interest, it's like you're looking for that. You're 0:07:43.760 --> 0:07:46.840 always looking for the next story to present, you know 0:07:46.880 --> 0:07:48.720 what I mean, the next narrative of the next thing. 0:07:48.880 --> 0:07:52.120 So it's like in in the in the in the 0:07:52.120 --> 0:07:55.920 conversation of political theater, it's like this race is like 0:07:55.960 --> 0:07:58.440 an interesting show to watch, you know what I'm saying. 0:07:58.480 --> 0:08:01.040 And I think it's it's one of those it's one 0:08:01.040 --> 0:08:03.920 of those series that's up there, the New York The 0:08:04.000 --> 0:08:05.960 New York Race it's something that they can fill up, 0:08:06.040 --> 0:08:09.720 you know, time with on MSNBC or CNN or whatever. 0:08:09.840 --> 0:08:12.400 So thus it's kind of in my face more than usual. 0:08:12.440 --> 0:08:15.160 It's like, God, damn, I I know, you know, well, 0:08:15.280 --> 0:08:17.360 I'm gonna get put on to some of the things 0:08:17.440 --> 0:08:19.720 that are going on in this episode, just like anybody 0:08:19.760 --> 0:08:23.920 who's listening who's not up to speed. But I do 0:08:24.040 --> 0:08:27.040 know more about this race than I have other New 0:08:27.120 --> 0:08:29.840 York races in the past. So for sure, for sure 0:08:29.960 --> 0:08:32.360 we're gonna get to all of that and more after 0:08:32.400 --> 0:08:39.040 the jump. So um in combent mayor of New York 0:08:39.040 --> 0:08:43.000 City built to Blasio. Um, it's not running again, not 0:08:43.080 --> 0:08:46.880 because I mean he can, We just can't because of 0:08:47.360 --> 0:08:50.960 tourn limits. But this has opened the field wide prospective 0:08:51.000 --> 0:08:55.080 candidates to fill his soon vacant seat. Um. This race 0:08:55.120 --> 0:08:58.800 differs in most municipal elections in that from two thousand nineteen, 0:08:58.880 --> 0:09:02.439 voters decide offer to allow rank choice voting, which empowers 0:09:02.440 --> 0:09:05.080 them to rank up to five candidates. If a voter's 0:09:05.120 --> 0:09:08.000 first choice doesn't get traction because are her votes transferred 0:09:08.000 --> 0:09:11.520 to the second choice, and that process of redistribution continues 0:09:11.600 --> 0:09:17.720 until one candidate has more the votes so you don't 0:09:16.840 --> 0:09:21.920 like that. I mean, you know, I mean, I'm sure 0:09:22.080 --> 0:09:27.320 somebody could like completely articulate to me why, like maybe 0:09:27.600 --> 0:09:31.920 mathematically or whatever that makes sense. But I just think 0:09:31.920 --> 0:09:34.560 when you're adding in like this, this extra layers of 0:09:34.600 --> 0:09:37.439 it instead of it just being simple, I just it's 0:09:37.480 --> 0:09:39.720 not even that I think, oh, something's gonna go wrong 0:09:39.800 --> 0:09:42.760 or whatever. It's just like I feel, if if something 0:09:42.840 --> 0:09:45.679 happens and somebody doesn't get enough votes, give people a 0:09:45.760 --> 0:09:47.959 choice to vote again. That's what I would say, as 0:09:48.080 --> 0:09:50.600 as opposed to like having something already built in there too, 0:09:50.840 --> 0:09:54.240 you know, some mechanization to transfer a Yeah. I mean, 0:09:54.240 --> 0:09:57.480 my understanding is that from a fiscal perspective, it's cheaper 0:09:57.520 --> 0:10:00.520 than holding a whole another election boy for the Board 0:10:00.520 --> 0:10:02.920 of Election Optics, and then like you know, Canada's themselves, 0:10:02.960 --> 0:10:06.400 it's just like automatic runoff. And then also there's less 0:10:06.400 --> 0:10:11.120 there's less lesser than two evilism. So it's like, let's say, 0:10:11.160 --> 0:10:14.840 let's say like in the let's say the presidential election, 0:10:15.280 --> 0:10:17.920 there was ranked choice voting and for some and somehow 0:10:18.040 --> 0:10:20.600 Joe Biden and Bernie Sanders were both up there. So 0:10:20.920 --> 0:10:23.559 as it stands, people might choose, Oh, well, I don't 0:10:23.600 --> 0:10:26.760 want to split the Democratic vote, so I have to 0:10:26.840 --> 0:10:29.760 vote for Biden to make sure that he beats Trump 0:10:29.840 --> 0:10:31.760 or something like that. But if it were a ranked 0:10:31.800 --> 0:10:35.600 choice voiding voting situation, you could rank, you know, you 0:10:35.600 --> 0:10:37.000 could just go by your heart, like, oh, I'm gonna 0:10:37.040 --> 0:10:40.640 rank Bernie first. Let's say, and rank Joe Biden second, 0:10:41.240 --> 0:10:44.760 and then not rank Trump at all. And if Bernie loses, 0:10:45.480 --> 0:10:48.480 then your vote still goes to Biden. So it's like, oh, 0:10:48.600 --> 0:10:50.920 I I don't feel it threatened by like ohn, throw 0:10:51.000 --> 0:10:53.440 my vote away, or oh, like I have to vote 0:10:53.440 --> 0:10:55.280 for the Canada that's more likely to win. You gonna 0:10:55.320 --> 0:10:59.280 vote your conscience a little bit like more directly. But 0:10:59.480 --> 0:11:02.520 I guess the is the is a logic behind ranks fighting. 0:11:02.880 --> 0:11:05.280 But I mean, do you think that it's more of 0:11:05.400 --> 0:11:10.120 a do you think it's more of a fiscal consideration 0:11:10.360 --> 0:11:12.720 or do you think it's more of that? Um? I 0:11:12.760 --> 0:11:16.200 think UM people outside of a two party system favorite 0:11:16.240 --> 0:11:19.280 because it gives more opportunity for people to vote their 0:11:19.320 --> 0:11:23.920 conscious with regards to third party candidates, Libertarian, screen Party, PSL, 0:11:24.000 --> 0:11:26.880 whoever you wanna name, independence, UM, so you can you 0:11:26.880 --> 0:11:28.880 can rank them and then if you want to rank 0:11:28.960 --> 0:11:32.280 Democrats will farther down. It's like, oh, I would prefer 0:11:32.360 --> 0:11:36.160 these over these other guys, like your preference in that regard, 0:11:36.200 --> 0:11:38.560 it's still counted to a degree rather than it not 0:11:38.600 --> 0:11:40.520 mattering at all. It's either you vote for this guy 0:11:40.600 --> 0:11:46.880 or that guy at the period done. Um, I think, yeah, 0:11:46.920 --> 0:11:48.920 I think, I think I'm with it. Yeah yeah, I 0:11:49.000 --> 0:11:54.320 mean I think that particularly with uh partisan elections, because 0:11:54.320 --> 0:11:57.000 this is the we're both talking about the Democratic Party 0:11:57.080 --> 0:12:01.840 primary today. But but with partisan a latins Um, you 0:12:01.880 --> 0:12:04.439 don't you're not as bound by partisans partisanship. So it's 0:12:04.480 --> 0:12:07.480 like if you really don't talk with the Democrats, but 0:12:07.920 --> 0:12:10.120 like you funk with them more than the Republicans, you 0:12:10.160 --> 0:12:13.600 can like you can like register those degrees of like 0:12:13.640 --> 0:12:16.880 fun wood ability on your valid Like I really you know, 0:12:16.960 --> 0:12:20.000 I'm gonna vote like Green Party or Working Family Party 0:12:20.160 --> 0:12:24.360 or like whatever. Um, but I really don't want these 0:12:24.360 --> 0:12:27.000 other motherfucker's, so like so I can put I can 0:12:27.080 --> 0:12:30.320 put Biden on there somewhere to like, you know, I 0:12:30.360 --> 0:12:32.920 would wouldn't mind him so much, whereas right now there's 0:12:32.920 --> 0:12:36.360 no shades of gray one or the other. Do yeah, 0:12:36.400 --> 0:12:39.160 do you want? Yeah? So oh you, Oh so your 0:12:39.200 --> 0:12:41.240 Jill sign voters, So what do you want? You gave 0:12:41.320 --> 0:12:44.040 us Trump like that all that ship is like one. 0:12:44.880 --> 0:12:47.080 So I mean I'm not as I'm not as like 0:12:47.200 --> 0:12:50.800 super well versed in like the deep policy considerations behind 0:12:50.800 --> 0:12:53.520 the wire rings voting rocks. That is, to the extent 0:12:53.600 --> 0:12:56.360 to which I know that it's it's better than what 0:12:56.400 --> 0:12:58.280 we currently have, and so it's kind of cool they 0:12:58.280 --> 0:13:00.480 have it, do you know. I mean again, it's like, 0:13:00.520 --> 0:13:04.320 I don't you know, it's just it makes me. It 0:13:04.360 --> 0:13:07.080 made me shake my head upon hearing it, because it's 0:13:07.120 --> 0:13:10.120 like just initially anything that adds an extra step in 0:13:10.160 --> 0:13:16.160 a complication to it, I'm like, but it also takes 0:13:16.160 --> 0:13:21.040 a step back and vote again in a runoff. Yeah, 0:13:21.080 --> 0:13:24.600 you know, that's true. That's true. As of late made, 0:13:24.600 --> 0:13:27.880 thirteen candidates had qualified for the Democratic Party of primary 0:13:28.120 --> 0:13:30.720 and two of the Republican Party primary. Though in the 0:13:30.760 --> 0:13:33.560 Democratic stronghold like New York, it's basically a given that 0:13:33.600 --> 0:13:36.199 the winner of the Democratic primary will become the next mayor. 0:13:36.720 --> 0:13:38.840 Similar thing that we had in the what was that 0:13:38.920 --> 0:13:44.600 last episode that we had, same sort of situation. So 0:13:44.640 --> 0:13:49.200 the major Democratic candidates include former state senator and current 0:13:49.240 --> 0:13:53.680 Brooklyn Borough president, Eric Adams, former commissioner of the NYC 0:13:53.880 --> 0:13:59.439 Department of Sanitation, Katherine Garcia, former City Group executive, Raymond McGuire, 0:13:59.640 --> 0:14:04.520 former Social services nonprofit CEO, Diane Morales, Guardian Angels founder, 0:14:04.559 --> 0:14:09.679 Curtis Sila, n Y Comptroller Scott Stringer, former council to 0:14:09.720 --> 0:14:14.000 Bill de Blasio, Maya Wiley, who many people might recognize 0:14:14.080 --> 0:14:19.520 from MSNBC, and former presidential candidate Andrew Yang, as well 0:14:19.600 --> 0:14:22.960 as previous guest on the show rapper Paper Boy Friends, 0:14:23.360 --> 0:14:28.760 Paper Paper, Paper, Much Love to Pay My Friends. So 0:14:29.200 --> 0:14:31.800 Yang came up the gate as the clear front runner 0:14:31.800 --> 0:14:35.800 in but has since slipped in the polls, with which 0:14:35.880 --> 0:14:39.120 rank choice voting is kind of fickle predictors anyway, making 0:14:39.200 --> 0:14:42.560 room for centrist candidates like Eric Adams and Captain Garcia 0:14:42.640 --> 0:14:46.200 to shine, particularly in the aftermath of Garcia's endorsement by 0:14:46.200 --> 0:14:49.760 The New York Times. I'm honestly super stoked about this. 0:14:49.960 --> 0:14:52.400 I was very worried for a while that Andrew Yang 0:14:52.720 --> 0:14:54.920 was the front runner in this race. It seemed that 0:14:55.000 --> 0:14:58.160 way because it's just like, I mean, I like, I 0:14:58.960 --> 0:15:02.320 give him props for popularizing the idea of universal basic 0:15:02.360 --> 0:15:06.400 income UM but like it's literally like he read a 0:15:06.480 --> 0:15:09.800 one sheet on what that is one time and blew 0:15:09.960 --> 0:15:13.240 up because he popularized it, and he never read a 0:15:13.320 --> 0:15:16.440 single fucking thing about any other piece of policy ever again. 0:15:16.880 --> 0:15:19.400 And it's just like I'm a very entitled tech bro, 0:15:19.720 --> 0:15:24.440 like I deserve power and just just just just god, 0:15:24.640 --> 0:15:27.480 just suck it sucks, man. I get the sense from 0:15:27.520 --> 0:15:31.880 Andrew Yang. I mean, my my feelings, you know, I'm 0:15:31.920 --> 0:15:35.680 not I've definitely I'm not Yang Gang or nothing. My 0:15:35.760 --> 0:15:40.640 feelings aren't as like strong in the negative about him. 0:15:40.680 --> 0:15:44.760 But I get the sense that he's doing what he 0:15:44.920 --> 0:15:49.760 feels he needs to do to rise in the ranks 0:15:49.840 --> 0:15:52.760 politically in the Democratic Party, you know what I mean. 0:15:52.800 --> 0:15:55.240 I just get that sense from him, and I get that, 0:15:55.600 --> 0:15:58.360 you know it, should he come out and win this 0:15:58.560 --> 0:16:01.680 or whatever other office than he seeks, I have a 0:16:01.720 --> 0:16:06.080 feeling that whatever it is that his the way he 0:16:06.160 --> 0:16:11.080 governs will be different from what he's presenting. That's how 0:16:11.080 --> 0:16:14.479 I feel, whether that is him becoming like a bloomberg 0:16:14.600 --> 0:16:16.840 as sort of figure that's like, you know, a Republican 0:16:16.920 --> 0:16:19.360 but you know it has a DNX of its name, 0:16:19.960 --> 0:16:24.640 or something that maybe is more progressive than he's putting on. 0:16:24.680 --> 0:16:26.600 I don't know, but I get that sense that we're 0:16:26.640 --> 0:16:30.640 not seeing the real Yang. Yeah. I mean I guess 0:16:30.680 --> 0:16:34.320 without like a strong like policy track record as a 0:16:34.360 --> 0:16:38.120 political outsider, to an extent, it's hard to tell like 0:16:38.320 --> 0:16:41.640 how strong a backbone he has to like truly enact 0:16:41.720 --> 0:16:45.400 the policies that he like preaches, because to me, he 0:16:45.440 --> 0:16:48.760 seems like a wet noodle who will just be controlled 0:16:48.760 --> 0:16:52.760 by capital and like whatever the policy experts around him 0:16:53.240 --> 0:16:56.000 tell him to do, and he is surrounding himselves with 0:16:56.080 --> 0:17:02.040 like very procarceole pro like capital like fucker's so yeah. 0:17:02.640 --> 0:17:05.080 So it's just like, well, yeah, like I don't know 0:17:05.160 --> 0:17:07.120 how like are you gonna do what you're gonna say 0:17:07.160 --> 0:17:08.919 you're gonna do, You're gonna do what everyone around he 0:17:08.960 --> 0:17:10.760 tells you to do, and like you're just surrounding yourself 0:17:10.760 --> 0:17:14.800 with like neoliberal shows. See, I get the opposite you 0:17:14.840 --> 0:17:17.560 know sounds from him. I I have a feeling that 0:17:18.320 --> 0:17:20.439 he's gonna do what he wants to do. It's just 0:17:20.480 --> 0:17:22.600 a matter of what is that that he wants to do, 0:17:22.800 --> 0:17:27.480 Like dott clear exactly, I really know what you're trying 0:17:27.520 --> 0:17:30.520 to do here, bro. Yeah, and then you have. And 0:17:30.560 --> 0:17:33.400 then I mean, well before we move on, and then 0:17:33.400 --> 0:17:36.120 there's like the fact that his family left New York 0:17:36.160 --> 0:17:39.399 City during the pandemic, and like he's just very out 0:17:39.440 --> 0:17:41.080 of touch with the Olympic experience of a lot of 0:17:41.080 --> 0:17:44.639 New Yorkers. That's a very wealthy person and all the 0:17:44.760 --> 0:17:47.400 other just yeah, and he got dunked, and he got 0:17:47.400 --> 0:17:50.080 apparently got dunked on by paper like literally dunked on 0:17:50.119 --> 0:17:55.760 into basketball tournament by paper Boy prints recently, which I love. Um, 0:17:55.880 --> 0:17:59.920 And you know, just where is where is entrying from? Again? 0:18:00.359 --> 0:18:02.840 I don't know where. Let's hold him, Let's let's do this. 0:18:03.000 --> 0:18:08.200 Andrew Yange, where are you from? Andrew Yane? Where are 0:18:08.200 --> 0:18:11.720 you from? Oh? He was born and he was born 0:18:11.720 --> 0:18:16.400 in Schenectady, New York. So he's from New York. Yeah, 0:18:16.440 --> 0:18:18.920 but I guess, um, I don't know why I could 0:18:18.960 --> 0:18:22.199 associate him with being like a New York Well, I 0:18:22.200 --> 0:18:24.280 think it's well, well, he gives off a very like 0:18:24.280 --> 0:18:28.359 Silicon Valley vibe, yeah, which I mean probably has ties 0:18:28.400 --> 0:18:32.040 to them or we're you know, out there. But yeah, 0:18:32.119 --> 0:18:35.560 there's there's a certain like unmoored thing about being so 0:18:35.760 --> 0:18:37.840 that wealthy where it's like are you from anywhere when 0:18:37.840 --> 0:18:39.880 you can be anywhere that you want to be at 0:18:39.880 --> 0:18:42.479 any point. I definitely felt when I did hear that 0:18:42.520 --> 0:18:46.040 he was running. I do remember I feel like, can 0:18:46.440 --> 0:18:50.159 you just run for do you just run for whatever? 0:18:51.200 --> 0:18:54.080 Are you allowed to just do this? Yeah? Nah? He 0:18:54.280 --> 0:18:57.720 uh yeah. Apparently he's from New York, um or like 0:18:57.920 --> 0:19:00.600 New York State, So all right, I'll give him that, 0:19:00.720 --> 0:19:04.440 give him that. But then, um, there's Eric Adams, who 0:19:04.520 --> 0:19:07.080 was a former cop of twenty two years and who 0:19:07.080 --> 0:19:09.120 has received the backing of the New York State Troopers 0:19:09.160 --> 0:19:13.520 Union as well. Um, just just general, I mean, it 0:19:13.520 --> 0:19:16.680 just seems like very status quo dude. I's previously claimed 0:19:16.680 --> 0:19:18.280 that the movement and to found the police is led 0:19:18.280 --> 0:19:20.080 by affluent white people, which I think it might be 0:19:20.280 --> 0:19:22.240 got the true to the very degrees depending on where 0:19:22.240 --> 0:19:25.040 you are. I mean, like as someone that like ascribes 0:19:25.080 --> 0:19:27.080 that movement and like I follow like a lot of 0:19:27.119 --> 0:19:29.680 like black feminist leaders who have been doing that work 0:19:29.720 --> 0:19:31.720 for many, many years. But I also live in a 0:19:31.760 --> 0:19:34.679 predominantly white town where predominantly white people were calling for 0:19:34.720 --> 0:19:39.439 that in our particular like geographical context. So there's you know, 0:19:39.800 --> 0:19:43.359 but he's recently He's recially come under fire for allegedly 0:19:43.400 --> 0:19:45.640 living in New Jersey, which then led to a very 0:19:45.680 --> 0:19:49.399 awkward photo shoot at his supposed New York home, in 0:19:49.440 --> 0:19:53.000 which he was shown sweating profusely surrounded by furniture that 0:19:53.119 --> 0:19:56.679 totally wasn't directing the place by frantic campaign staffers or anything, 0:19:58.040 --> 0:20:01.760 and also claim being in a recent forum that online 0:20:01.840 --> 0:20:04.920 education or in the pandemic has proven teachers are capable 0:20:05.320 --> 0:20:10.000 of handling a four hundred to one students teacher ratio, dude, 0:20:10.320 --> 0:20:13.520 garnering human pushback from Congress folks like Jamal bobman Ac 0:20:14.119 --> 0:20:17.720 and deservedly, So, what the hell is even that four hundreds? 0:20:17.760 --> 0:20:22.080 Or like, literally do you even have you ever Like 0:20:22.119 --> 0:20:24.040 it's not even like do you have children? Like? Literally, 0:20:24.040 --> 0:20:26.159 have you ever met a child? Yeah? I mean have 0:20:26.200 --> 0:20:30.359 you ever been a school like I like, I don't know, 0:20:30.640 --> 0:20:35.240 like fucking blade Runner class in the future where there's 0:20:35.280 --> 0:20:40.080 only one teacher for every four hundred child. I don't 0:20:40.119 --> 0:20:42.280 know when we were taught. When you were mentioning the 0:20:42.440 --> 0:20:46.399 fund the police thing, I'm sorry, it's just it really 0:20:46.560 --> 0:20:51.520 gets me upset that the Democrats play into the Republican 0:20:51.600 --> 0:20:54.480 hands of like making such a big deal about the 0:20:54.520 --> 0:20:57.479 defund the police thing. I mean, whether you agree with 0:20:57.480 --> 0:20:59.960 it or not, or that's your stance or not. There 0:21:00.200 --> 0:21:05.879 is no establishment democrat who's got a platform and to 0:21:05.920 --> 0:21:10.880 fund the police, like with which one who It's all 0:21:10.920 --> 0:21:14.760 the people you'd expect, I mean like Corey Bush. Yeah, 0:21:15.000 --> 0:21:19.200 I mean that's like, yeah, it's the ones that you 0:21:19.240 --> 0:21:21.919 would explain. It's like if that's not you, that's not you. 0:21:22.000 --> 0:21:25.320 But like to complain about what activists are doing, like 0:21:25.400 --> 0:21:27.119 if you're not for it, then don't be for it, 0:21:27.760 --> 0:21:30.080 you know, but but don't try to stop other people 0:21:30.200 --> 0:21:33.520 from being what they're for. Erasing your own people when 0:21:33.560 --> 0:21:35.840 it's like okay, you can claim that, but then like 0:21:36.560 --> 0:21:39.360 they're like, oh we lost because of you know, fund 0:21:39.359 --> 0:21:41.800 the police or whatever. Put it's led by affluent white people. Put. 0:21:41.800 --> 0:21:43.680 The only people talking about in a Democratic party are 0:21:43.720 --> 0:21:49.840 like Cory Bush exactly, Corey Corey Bush. She's right, like, no, 0:21:50.760 --> 0:21:54.480 this is you know, does not come remember sparks fly 0:21:55.359 --> 0:21:57.679 It's anyway, I'm sorry I have to go off on that. 0:21:57.720 --> 0:22:00.280 It's been bugging me for the last few days and 0:22:00.400 --> 0:22:03.080 I I ever since talking to Matt a couple episodes 0:22:03.119 --> 0:22:07.159 back about neoliberalism, like Eric Adams perfectly encompasses that in 0:22:07.240 --> 0:22:10.080 these few facts that we have spoken on him, that like, 0:22:10.160 --> 0:22:13.439 oh we can have four one teachers student ratio, like 0:22:13.480 --> 0:22:16.400 to fund the schools, but like make sure you support 0:22:16.440 --> 0:22:21.800 the cops. It's like shrinking social services everywhere else except 0:22:21.880 --> 0:22:25.520 in the way that you can control people and incarcerate 0:22:25.600 --> 0:22:27.920 them and make their lives. So it's like they expected 0:22:27.960 --> 0:22:30.040 ship it's that and then and then, and he is 0:22:30.119 --> 0:22:33.400 running as a Democrat like this is yeah, like yeah, 0:22:33.640 --> 0:22:36.960 well that's New York politics. I know that much. Now 0:22:37.040 --> 0:22:39.280 on the progressive side of things, the field has been 0:22:39.280 --> 0:22:43.480 pretty split. So you got Scott Stringer, Diane Morales, and 0:22:43.520 --> 0:22:47.520