WEBVTT - The Tues Cruise: Arnaz Battleship

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to the solid verbal.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll that for me.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm a man, I'm forty.

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<v Speaker 1>I've heard so many players say, well, I want to

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<v Speaker 1>be happy.

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<v Speaker 2>You want to be happy for.

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<v Speaker 1>Day Edith State?

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<v Speaker 2>Is that?

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<v Speaker 3>Whoo?

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<v Speaker 4>Whoam?

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<v Speaker 1>And now Dan and tie.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh hi verbals. This is your captain, Tye Hildebrandt. I

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<v Speaker 3>am joined as always by my Lieutenant Dan Ruvenstein. Welcome

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<v Speaker 3>aboard this college football experience that we like to call

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<v Speaker 3>do three shows a week. This is the one where

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<v Speaker 3>we look back, try to put it all in perspective,

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<v Speaker 3>figure out what all the results mean. We've also got

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<v Speaker 3>a Thursday preview show as well as a Sunday afternoon

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<v Speaker 3>recap show where we try to really give you the

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<v Speaker 3>full holistic picture. Lieutenant Dan, what's going on in and

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<v Speaker 3>around the world of college football?

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<v Speaker 1>How are you, Tye? I want to de stock this

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<v Speaker 1>salary of performance that we're doing right now. After I

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<v Speaker 1>peeled back the carrot of digital Audio on Sunday. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>good we started our connection. I guess I'll keep it

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<v Speaker 1>on theme. I went down to your stateroom, I went

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<v Speaker 1>down to your cabin, and you had been struggling with

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<v Speaker 1>your voice, yes, traustion, and then you hit record and

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<v Speaker 1>you go, oh hurry, and you are fully in. So

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<v Speaker 1>I want everybody to know that the sacrifice that Tie

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<v Speaker 1>is giving to you. All systems, go man your battle stations,

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<v Speaker 1>oh fore boting. It's very real, Tie. You are dedicated

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<v Speaker 1>to the craft, and I appreciate it. I am dedicated

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<v Speaker 1>to the craft. I have so much tazzo wild orange

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<v Speaker 1>tea swimming at meat that we might have to go

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<v Speaker 1>over to the side of the boat. Not a sponsor,

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<v Speaker 1>not a sponsor.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, drain the old lizard into the international waters that

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<v Speaker 3>surround us here on the two's cruise Neah, where we

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<v Speaker 3>talk about college football. So, as you know, we've been

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<v Speaker 3>playing mini games all throughout our previous versions of this

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<v Speaker 3>Tuesday Show. Today we're gonna give one more a chance

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<v Speaker 3>to breathe. Okay, we got some suggestions about this. We

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<v Speaker 3>honestly had it in the Q long before anyone suggested it.

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<v Speaker 3>But since since this is more of a nautically themed show,

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<v Speaker 3>since we talk about being on the open seas, we

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<v Speaker 3>decided that we would play a game of battleshow.

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<v Speaker 2>That ship Milton Bradley's great game of strategy. It's loaded

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<v Speaker 2>with action and suspense.

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<v Speaker 3>So here is what we are doing to keep this

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<v Speaker 3>within a college football context. Okay, what we've done is

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<v Speaker 3>you've got a board. It's a smaller board than the

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<v Speaker 3>actual battleship board. Otherwise we would be here all afternoon. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>four by four ABCD one two three four, got our

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<v Speaker 3>own little grids and randomly played on each of our

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<v Speaker 3>respective boards are four preseason assumptions that we made that

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<v Speaker 3>are really on the verge of sinking. And so part

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<v Speaker 3>of this game is sort of just to do the

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<v Speaker 3>humanitarian thing and put it out of its misery.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh man, yeah, our bad preseason takes.

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<v Speaker 3>But also we're competitive individuals and we're trying to win

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<v Speaker 3>the game and sink the others first.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, very true.

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<v Speaker 3>So what you're gonna do is, I hope you've got

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<v Speaker 3>your board ready. I haven't seen it.

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<v Speaker 1>I do.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, what we're going to do is we're going to

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<v Speaker 3>guess we might have to flip a coin here to

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<v Speaker 3>see who goes first. I've got the sounds queued up.

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<v Speaker 3>We're ready to go. We're going to make this as

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<v Speaker 3>close to the real thing as we can. You and

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<v Speaker 3>I are quite literally going to play college football battleship, Dan.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, and what should we call a college football version

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<v Speaker 1>of battleship?

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<v Speaker 3>You, I can't take credit for this. You have to

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<v Speaker 3>unveil the official name of this.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's the best name that either involves ship or battle.

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<v Speaker 1>So we're playing our nasm Arnaz battleship, right. Yes? You

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<v Speaker 1>were you a fan of his Notre Dame career, pro career?

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<v Speaker 1>He was. He was a tim Rette era forty nine

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<v Speaker 1>ers for everybody following at home, Arna's battleship battleship. Did

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<v Speaker 1>you like him? I like the name. Oh man, you

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<v Speaker 1>didn't like watching him? I like the name.

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<v Speaker 3>He was a receiver, wasn't he he was once he

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<v Speaker 3>got to the pro game?

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<v Speaker 1>Correct? He was a dual threat quarterback in college.

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<v Speaker 3>Correct, played quarterback, played receiver, played more receiver once he

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<v Speaker 3>got to the league.

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<v Speaker 1>And the name is cool. It is very cool. U

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<v Speaker 1>double major. It looks like with a three point two gpa.

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<v Speaker 1>Now that is one more major than I had, and

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<v Speaker 1>he went to a better school than I did, So

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<v Speaker 1>much respect, Daniel. Are you ready to play Arna's.

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<v Speaker 2>Battleship, Battleship Milton Bradley's great game of strategy. It's loaded

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<v Speaker 2>with action.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess we could have gone with Bill Blanken Battleship

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<v Speaker 1>something like that, but we could have. Yeah, it's okay,

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<v Speaker 1>let's go. I'm not a huge A one sauce fans.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's go A two, tie A two? All right, No, no, no,

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<v Speaker 1>Dick didn't hit anything. Ding means he didn't hit anything.

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<v Speaker 1>Ding means it. Okay, let's go. You get to guess now,

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<v Speaker 1>or do I get to go again? I get to guess.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, I am gonna guess A two. I'll go far

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<v Speaker 3>corner D four.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, there's a hit. Yeah, that's officially what do we got.

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<v Speaker 1>So I thought Miami would win the Coastal end up

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<v Speaker 1>in the ACC Championship game. It's not looking like that'll

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<v Speaker 1>be the case. Tie. I thought that defense, which returned

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<v Speaker 1>a good amount of guys and an offense that was

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<v Speaker 1>talented enough, and we didn't know before the season and

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<v Speaker 1>when we recorded our AEC previeould be Nikos Perry or

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<v Speaker 1>Jared Williams ended up being Williams. But I guess I

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<v Speaker 1>just did not foresee the offensive line and the mistakes

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<v Speaker 1>and the catastrophes on both sides of the ball, the

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<v Speaker 1>big play errors coming. And so I am officially singing

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<v Speaker 1>year one Manny Diez hopes of going to an ACC

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<v Speaker 1>championship game, and I don't know if the prognosis is amazing,

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<v Speaker 1>but they should recruit well enough. He obviously deserves time

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<v Speaker 1>to establish a culture. But I feel very wrong in

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<v Speaker 1>thinking that Miami was going to be the team. So

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<v Speaker 1>Miami's ACC championship game hopes you are officially at the

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<v Speaker 1>bottom of the ocean.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, if you look at Miami so far, three and

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<v Speaker 3>four on the year, they've lost to Florida North Carolina,

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<v Speaker 3>Virginia Tech, and Georgia Tech. Georgia Tech the overtime one

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<v Speaker 3>that we saw back in in week just a few

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<v Speaker 3>days ago, one in three in the ACC, one and

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<v Speaker 3>three in the ACC. On the schedule right now, we've

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<v Speaker 3>got road games against pitt and Florida State.

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<v Speaker 1>We've got a.

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<v Speaker 3>Home game against Louisville, home game against Florida International, and

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<v Speaker 3>then they close out the year on the road at Duke.

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<v Speaker 3>At least according to some projections, they are favored to

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<v Speaker 3>win all of those games. I think the hardest, I

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<v Speaker 3>guess would be at Pitt, maybe rivaled by Florida State,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, both those games feel kind of the same

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<v Speaker 3>to me.

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<v Speaker 1>But does something excellently well And we'll get to that.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe maybe not. And I think you're right at Pitt.

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<v Speaker 1>We saw what you happen to UCF there. I think

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<v Speaker 1>that's the answer the thing.

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<v Speaker 3>That I look at Miami and say, And it isn't

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<v Speaker 3>all that different from my own preseason projections, which, by

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<v Speaker 3>the way, I mean, you take the hit for this one,

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<v Speaker 3>but I was right there with you.

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<v Speaker 2>Now.

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<v Speaker 3>They needed to get more consistent quarterback play, and of

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<v Speaker 3>course they bring over Tamar. Tell you Jared Williams gets

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<v Speaker 3>the start. There was a lot of praise with some

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<v Speaker 3>of what he did early on. Manny Diaz got the

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<v Speaker 3>hype stirred up down and Coral Gables just has not materialized,

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<v Speaker 3>has not materialized at all.

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<v Speaker 1>In fairness, there are moments for Miami defensively where they

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<v Speaker 1>look absurdly good. It's just that we're describing it as

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<v Speaker 1>moments and not quarters or series is strung together, or

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<v Speaker 1>games or has it's moments. There are times where they

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<v Speaker 1>just look otherworldly on defense. And that's I mean, as

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<v Speaker 1>up and down and as weird as the coastal is

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<v Speaker 1>not good enough to be that moment to moment.

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<v Speaker 3>The one thing that I will point out and then

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<v Speaker 3>I promise, Saul, let you have your turn. Yes, Miami

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<v Speaker 3>has lost all four of those games by one score

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<v Speaker 3>or less. Four points against Florida, three points on the

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<v Speaker 3>road at North Carolina, seven points against Virginia Tech, and

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<v Speaker 3>of course the overtime game that they lost is past

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<v Speaker 3>weekend to Georgia Tech. Second order wins, which is something

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<v Speaker 3>that our friend Bill Connolly tracks has Miami at five

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<v Speaker 3>five point four, meaning if things go a little bit differently,

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<v Speaker 3>this could be a five win team as opposed to

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<v Speaker 3>a three win team.

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<v Speaker 1>Could obviously be a lot different of a story. Ifs

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<v Speaker 1>and butts tie, ifs and butts, bigger picture as we

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<v Speaker 1>look forward, now, where does Miami go from here?

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<v Speaker 3>How do you feel about Miami's prospects?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, the offensive line has to improve. We're talking after

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<v Speaker 1>the season, talking next offseason. The offensive line has to improve.

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<v Speaker 1>There have been really nice again, the word is moments

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<v Speaker 1>for Jaron Williams. I think they're going to continue to

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<v Speaker 1>recruit well, and it's it's a year zero one. It

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<v Speaker 1>was an unexpected retirement from a head coach, and so

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<v Speaker 1>there is something that is incredibly deserving about saying, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>this all happened unexpectedly, was all thrown together sort of

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<v Speaker 1>last second, unexpectedly. Again, it's going to be okay. I

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<v Speaker 1>think losing to Georgia Tech is completely indefensible. Losing in

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<v Speaker 1>the way that they lost to Virginia Tech late also

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<v Speaker 1>sort of indefensible. So I don't know what you know.

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<v Speaker 1>There's like win expectancies and stuff like that. If Miami

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<v Speaker 1>can get to the point where they just win where

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<v Speaker 1>they should, they're like a nine to three team, They're

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<v Speaker 1>just not there yet.

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<v Speaker 3>All right, your turn. You guessed A two incorrectly. See

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<v Speaker 3>if you could do better this time.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, let's stick with the two theme and we'll

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<v Speaker 1>go B two. You got me mono a mono here?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, yeah, playing Arnez Battleship.

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<v Speaker 1>M hm.

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<v Speaker 3>I have here maybe my most controversial opinion. It was

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<v Speaker 3>certainly one that I was very confident about going into

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<v Speaker 3>the season, and that was that this Michigan team was

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<v Speaker 3>not only going to win the Big Ten but also

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<v Speaker 3>make the College Football Playoff. Wow, you doo, okay, lot

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<v Speaker 3>to peel back here, A lot to peel back here.

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<v Speaker 3>This has not worked out well, no, suffice to say,

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<v Speaker 3>but Michigan is five and two. They're five and two,

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<v Speaker 3>at least in terms of a win loss record. That's

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<v Speaker 3>better than Miami. You could do worse than five and two.

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<v Speaker 1>Correct.

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<v Speaker 3>Of Michigan's five remaining games, though, given the way they

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<v Speaker 3>look on offense, you could see like four of them

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<v Speaker 3>being competitive. I don't think that's too big of a stretch.

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<v Speaker 3>The issue that we say that is because the new

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<v Speaker 3>offense has yet to click. That may still happen. There

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<v Speaker 3>were moments down the stretch against Penn State where yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>I kind of clicked. They didn't give up, they played hard.

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<v Speaker 3>They probably should have tied it if they don't have

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<v Speaker 3>a drop pass in the end zone. They just need

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<v Speaker 3>more of those clicks. You need to get it together

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<v Speaker 3>earlier on in some of these games. Right now, they

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<v Speaker 3>are fifth in the country, and this is something that

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<v Speaker 3>I know you and I have texted about fifth in

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<v Speaker 3>the country and starting field position. Yeah, yet it's just

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<v Speaker 3>that their offense is super inefficient at the moment, not

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<v Speaker 3>getting any bang for the buck there. They need to

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<v Speaker 3>find a way to correct that, and they need to

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<v Speaker 3>start by at least looking a little bit more organized

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<v Speaker 3>on offense. Maybe the defense hasn't been quite up to

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<v Speaker 3>the level that we've seen in past years. It's still

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<v Speaker 3>really good and still more than good enough to give

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<v Speaker 3>this offense good field position. It's just a shame they

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<v Speaker 3>can't turn it into more.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And it's one of those things too, Where on

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<v Speaker 1>first downs are they can they get a six yard run.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not complicated complicated things. It's not cracking this giant

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<v Speaker 1>mystery that is football. It's basic things that they can't

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<v Speaker 1>consistently string together. They find themselves in third and long

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit too often, and even though they've been

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<v Speaker 1>okay on third and long, they're just they're finding themselves

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<v Speaker 1>there far too much. It's not like they're playing opponents

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<v Speaker 1>on their skill level. Penn State is, Ohio State is,

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<v Speaker 1>but the rest of the year they're more talented than

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<v Speaker 1>a team like Wisconsin. At the very least, they should

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<v Speaker 1>be losing that game last second that they should be

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<v Speaker 1>in that game for four straight orders, and so we've

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<v Speaker 1>sort of talked ad nauseum about the Michigan issues this year,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's self inflicted. It's the turnovers, it's the fumbles

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<v Speaker 1>I think they have. You know, they're they're comparable in

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<v Speaker 1>terms of turnovers already to where they were last year

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<v Speaker 1>all year, and so you can only give the ball

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<v Speaker 1>away so much before you just say, I guess we're

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<v Speaker 1>just doomed. I guess we're just doomed. And I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think Michigan full. They may well beat, you know, the

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<v Speaker 1>back half of their schedule until Ohio State in an

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<v Speaker 1>exciting way, but something is just off. And I was

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<v Speaker 1>with you in the optimism, and I'm not going to

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<v Speaker 1>say that we should be tearing down the Michigan season

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<v Speaker 1>because they could go nine and three and win a

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<v Speaker 1>bowl and go ten and three. That's not, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>a crazy, crazy thought, but they're way behind Ohio State,

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<v Speaker 1>and that was what the change was meant to affect

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<v Speaker 1>the distance, then close the gap between Michigan and Ohio State.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's just it's not a reality.

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<v Speaker 3>That was part of the reason for the optimism because

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<v Speaker 3>of course Ohio State bringing in a new coach, even

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<v Speaker 3>though he was already on the staff. Dudes, right, Whenever

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<v Speaker 3>you swap out a legend, it's it's tough. It's a

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<v Speaker 3>coin flip to begin with when you swap out a coach,

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<v Speaker 3>and especially when you're replacing a legend, it's just you

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<v Speaker 3>never know what kind of traction you're going to get

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<v Speaker 3>on that front. And they have not done much to

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<v Speaker 3>close that gap. On offense, They've looked very disorganized. Here's

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<v Speaker 3>what they look like now. I mentioned that four of

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<v Speaker 3>the five games are competitive. The big Notre Dame game

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<v Speaker 3>this weekend, it's at home, it's at night. They're around

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<v Speaker 3>a point and a half favored in that game, which, okay,

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<v Speaker 3>a little confusing to me, but fine, tough game, easily losable.

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<v Speaker 3>They're at Maryland the week after Notre Dame. I think

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<v Speaker 3>I think they should have that one in the bag.

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<v Speaker 3>But then final three weeks of the year home against

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<v Speaker 3>Michigan State. That's a rivalry they should have. Wait, but

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<v Speaker 3>yes it is. Who knows at Indiana in between Michigan

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<v Speaker 3>State and Ohio State. That's a letdown look ahead spot

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<v Speaker 3>that we've been talking up since June. And Indiana ain't bad.

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<v Speaker 3>That's a losable game right and then obviously Ohio State

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<v Speaker 3>to close out the year. Obviously thought maybe will be

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<v Speaker 3>a little bit of a closer scenario when we got

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<v Speaker 3>to week fourteen, when we talked about it again back

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<v Speaker 3>in June. But right now Ohio State does look like

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<v Speaker 3>their leaps and bounds better and.

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<v Speaker 1>In terms of ifs and butts at the same time,

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<v Speaker 1>they go to the wire against Army and what do

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<v Speaker 1>we know now about Army. Yeah, not particularly great this

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<v Speaker 1>year now, so that looks worse. They might be a

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<v Speaker 1>top seventy eighty team that looks worse right now. They

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<v Speaker 1>blow out Rutgers. They have a great defensive game against Iowa,

0:15:48.800 --> 0:15:51.520
<v Speaker 1>and i was a tough team Illinois, even though now

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<v Speaker 1>in retrospect we've seen Illinois beat Wisconsin Penn State. If

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<v Speaker 1>Ronnie Bell catches that ball, you have what a tie

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<v Speaker 1>game lay against the James Franklin team. That's a good

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<v Speaker 1>spot to find yourself in. Yeah, it is. Well, it's

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<v Speaker 1>just it's IF's and butts again, and it's it's It

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<v Speaker 1>could go either way from Michigan at this point, and

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<v Speaker 1>I am I'm still excited to see which direction it goes.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not fully willing to give up on an exciting Michigan,

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<v Speaker 1>but we should sink those playoff hopes down to the

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<v Speaker 1>bottom of the ocean.

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<v Speaker 3>What do we think about Michigan now moving forward? Because

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<v Speaker 3>if we after the season big right, if we focus in,

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<v Speaker 3>if we focus that periscope in on the future state

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<v Speaker 3>of this offense. Shaye Patterson gone after this year, but

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<v Speaker 3>elsewhere on the offense, maybe aside from the line, which

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<v Speaker 3>we know as a veteran group, there's a lot of

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<v Speaker 3>young skill talent on this roster, so a lot of

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<v Speaker 3>those guys will be back. Presumably Dylan McCaffrey will be

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<v Speaker 3>back as well, and the new starting quarterback in Junior

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<v Speaker 3>twenty twenty, he will have had a year in this

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<v Speaker 3>system now under Josh Gaddis. Provided they hold on to Gaddis,

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<v Speaker 3>Where do we like come down on this Michigan offense

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<v Speaker 3>moving forward.

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<v Speaker 1>I think they'll hold on to Gaddis. I think it'll

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<v Speaker 1>go up. I do I have high hope they've recruited

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<v Speaker 1>well enough. Zach Sharboney seems pretty promising a bigger back

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<v Speaker 1>as a true freshman thrown into it. I think fumble

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<v Speaker 1>issues can be dealt with, you know, a big toss

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<v Speaker 1>up will be what happens with the junior receivers to

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<v Speaker 1>replack Nico Collins and Donovan People's jones, and see, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>they're obviously not maximizing their value. So I imagine a

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<v Speaker 1>couple of them at least will be back just in

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<v Speaker 1>hopes of proving that they have NFL draft potential. So

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<v Speaker 1>I am I'm going to remain bullish on Michigan, and

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<v Speaker 1>I know they're in Columbus next season, but the schedule

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<v Speaker 1>should be I don't do you have their their schedule

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<v Speaker 1>twenty schedule in front of you. It seems like it'll

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<v Speaker 1>be okay. I still am hopeful that when you consistently

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<v Speaker 1>year over year have an excellent defense and all you

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<v Speaker 1>need to do is produce and above average off with talent,

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<v Speaker 1>there's a lot to still be hopeful for.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, maybe we'll talk about LSU in a little bit. Perhaps,

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<v Speaker 3>maybe we'll talk about LSU in a little bit. And

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<v Speaker 3>it was a similar story there for.

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<v Speaker 1>A long time at Washington Michigan September fifth in the

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<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty season.

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<v Speaker 3>All right, so who's up? I guess I'm up, Yes,

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<v Speaker 3>I am up to guess I'm going to go? Where

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<v Speaker 3>was I was D four last time? Correct, I am going.

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<v Speaker 1>B four crap?

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<v Speaker 3>I thought maybe you did the corner thing where you

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<v Speaker 3>stacked them all in the corner.

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<v Speaker 1>No, I'll give you another shot, though, Tay.

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<v Speaker 3>I feel bad, okay, D three.

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<v Speaker 1>Ah wow, Like Shaye Patterson, I'm just a miss after

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<v Speaker 1>a miss that was great.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm trying to work my way out from the corner.

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<v Speaker 3>I'll give you one more shot, tie another one. I

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<v Speaker 3>feel terrible. Yeah, all right, let's go. We'll go D

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<v Speaker 3>D one. Yes, I knew you had another one in

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<v Speaker 3>that D column.

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<v Speaker 1>I knew you would do that. I do. Yeah, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>deeper Dan. Your hit and my miss, really, and this

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<v Speaker 1>is very specific, is an actual miss is Mississippi States.

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<v Speaker 1>I was very high on year two of the Joe

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<v Speaker 1>Morehead experience. Moving past there, what I thought was going

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<v Speaker 1>to be the end of very bad quarterback play. I

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<v Speaker 1>thought they'd have a complete team, returning the receivers that

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<v Speaker 1>they did, returning an underrated running back in Kylon Hill,

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<v Speaker 1>returning a pretty experienced offensive line. And I know, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>losing Montes Sweat and Jeffrey Simmons was huge, but good linebackers,

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<v Speaker 1>upperclassmen on the line, some experience in the secondary, not

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<v Speaker 1>a lot. I knew that was gonna be a question

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<v Speaker 1>coming in, but I didn't fully see how they could

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<v Speaker 1>fall off the way that they have. Obviously, you lose

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<v Speaker 1>to Tennessee and you have to have a sit down,

0:20:12.720 --> 0:20:15.919
<v Speaker 1>you have to have a conversation, and so Keithon Thompson

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<v Speaker 1>leaves and comes back, and Tommy Stevens comes in, and

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<v Speaker 1>you know, he and Joe Morehead have this rapport, and

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<v Speaker 1>Garrett Trader, this blue chip quarterback, starts getting time. I

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<v Speaker 1>still felt pretty good about them two three weeks into

0:20:26.760 --> 0:20:32.000
<v Speaker 1>the season, but the mistakes on offense and god, the

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<v Speaker 1>last I mean I was saying the last. The entirety

0:20:35.680 --> 0:20:39.800
<v Speaker 1>of that Auburn experience has me so soured on the

0:20:40.160 --> 0:20:44.000
<v Speaker 1>twenty nineteen season for the Bulldogs that I have to

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<v Speaker 1>write it off. I have to sink that take to

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<v Speaker 1>the bottom of the ocean. Just the picks against Tennessee

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<v Speaker 1>and coming out of a bye week, and to look

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<v Speaker 1>that listless on offense, just mistake prone. And even when

0:20:57.840 --> 0:21:00.800
<v Speaker 1>they have completed passes to their own team, they've been okay,

0:21:00.840 --> 0:21:05.119
<v Speaker 1>they've been pretty good, but that's that's a pretty big qualifier.

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<v Speaker 1>When you throw the picks that they do. So, Yeah,

0:21:08.200 --> 0:21:10.399
<v Speaker 1>they've been thrown on and have had, you know, the

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<v Speaker 1>continued struggles throwing where this was the best pass defense

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<v Speaker 1>in the SEC last season. Yeah, and they did actually

0:21:17.520 --> 0:21:20.760
<v Speaker 1>have some success even though the score would indicate otherwise

0:21:20.800 --> 0:21:23.240
<v Speaker 1>against LSU. I thought they did a pretty good job.

0:21:23.240 --> 0:21:25.840
<v Speaker 1>They tightened up in the red zone against LSU early

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<v Speaker 1>and it was a close game for that first half.

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<v Speaker 1>But I just I didn't see it. I had a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of faith that the Mississippi State team would build

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<v Speaker 1>on last year's experience and they haven't.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, the Tennessee game on the road, granted, on the

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<v Speaker 3>road in Tennessee not the easiest place in the world

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<v Speaker 3>to play with that offense. Oh, but offense was abysmal.

0:21:47.200 --> 0:21:48.640
<v Speaker 3>Ten points against Tennessee is.

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<v Speaker 1>Just not good enough. Three picks.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you look at the schedule now, they've already got

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<v Speaker 3>four losses. They've lost three in a row at Texas,

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<v Speaker 3>A and M. This coming week, there's a road to

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<v Speaker 3>bil against Arkansas in there, which should hopefully be a

0:22:02.640 --> 0:22:05.960
<v Speaker 3>win for their sake, a bye with then they come

0:22:06.000 --> 0:22:09.080
<v Speaker 3>back home against Alabama. They've got a game in there

0:22:09.119 --> 0:22:12.000
<v Speaker 3>against Abilene Christian they should win that one easily. Then

0:22:12.000 --> 0:22:14.640
<v Speaker 3>they close out with the Egg Bowl. Yeah at home.

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<v Speaker 3>So I don't think it's a foregone conclusion at this

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<v Speaker 3>point that Mississippi State's making a bowl game at all,

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<v Speaker 3>which is not a good look for Joe moorehead in

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<v Speaker 3>year two. Certainly, the line has not helped these quarterbacks much,

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<v Speaker 3>but no, you could argue the quarterbacks haven't helped the

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<v Speaker 3>quarterbacks much either. True, So it's just not really been

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<v Speaker 3>a great situation. We talk about Michigan's disorganized offense, this

0:22:40.320 --> 0:22:42.159
<v Speaker 3>is sort of on a whole different level. It just

0:22:42.160 --> 0:22:44.000
<v Speaker 3>feels like they don't know at all what's going on,

0:22:44.480 --> 0:22:46.520
<v Speaker 3>and the quarterbacks in particular have not helped.

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<v Speaker 1>I've liked Garrett Schrader some. I think there is promise there,

0:22:51.880 --> 0:22:54.720
<v Speaker 1>you know, being thrown in as a true freshman freshman truths,

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<v Speaker 1>as we've talked about, they're just going to be lumpy moments. Ah.

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<v Speaker 1>I just thought everything else around him would be okay. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>just thought they'd be led by defense and Kylon Hill.

0:23:05.320 --> 0:23:07.080
<v Speaker 1>But now you can just stack the box. You can

0:23:07.200 --> 0:23:10.160
<v Speaker 1>stack the box that the passing threat just doesn't really exist.

0:23:10.359 --> 0:23:14.359
<v Speaker 3>It doesn't. And to further your point, Garrett Strader. You

0:23:14.359 --> 0:23:16.240
<v Speaker 3>look at the way he's built, the way he can move,

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<v Speaker 3>got a pretty good arm. He would be should be

0:23:20.600 --> 0:23:24.840
<v Speaker 3>the prototypical Joe moorehead quarterback. He would seemingly fit exactly

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<v Speaker 3>what they're.

0:23:25.200 --> 0:23:28.040
<v Speaker 1>Trying to do. Definitely, why it hasn't clicked.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know. I don't know if it's the line.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know what's going on, but it certainly has

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<v Speaker 3>not clicked. And we can sink this one to the

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<v Speaker 3>bottom of the ocean. Dan, I don't where do we

0:23:37.440 --> 0:23:40.800
<v Speaker 3>come down on Joe moorehead twenty twenty and beyond at

0:23:40.800 --> 0:23:43.200
<v Speaker 3>Mississippi State, because right now we've got rumors about the

0:23:43.480 --> 0:23:46.640
<v Speaker 3>whole Rutgers opening. Maybe he'd kind of a weird rumor

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<v Speaker 3>to begin with, but we know he's got familiarity with

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<v Speaker 3>the Northeast.

0:23:52.960 --> 0:23:54.960
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, if he has familiarity with the Northeast, that's why

0:23:55.000 --> 0:23:59.280
<v Speaker 1>he shouldn't go to exactly. And as as much talent

0:23:59.320 --> 0:24:02.520
<v Speaker 1>as they're actually is in New Jersey, there isn't talent

0:24:02.760 --> 0:24:07.320
<v Speaker 1>overall running the Rutgers athletic department. It's just a terrible situation.

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<v Speaker 1>So I think he's smart enough not to jump to Rutgers.

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<v Speaker 1>I like Joe Morehead. I like his ability. I think

0:24:14.160 --> 0:24:17.399
<v Speaker 1>he should resonate with recruits. He should be able to

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<v Speaker 1>improve a culture if it needs improving, which obviously, after

0:24:20.680 --> 0:24:23.399
<v Speaker 1>the way they've lost this year, Mississippi State probably does.

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<v Speaker 1>He's resonating with recruits. They have a top twenty class

0:24:26.560 --> 0:24:28.560
<v Speaker 1>at the moment they have. It looks like six or

0:24:28.600 --> 0:24:33.280
<v Speaker 1>seven blue chip guys committed verbally right now. And I'm

0:24:33.320 --> 0:24:36.320
<v Speaker 1>still going to say because of that home environment, because

0:24:36.320 --> 0:24:39.960
<v Speaker 1>of his intellect, I'm willing to write it off as

0:24:40.680 --> 0:24:43.680
<v Speaker 1>you know, whiffing on the Tommy Stevens thing, and see

0:24:43.760 --> 0:24:46.720
<v Speaker 1>that's pushing the chips in with Garrett Strader and hoping

0:24:46.720 --> 0:24:48.920
<v Speaker 1>for the best in terms of developing guys on defense

0:24:48.960 --> 0:24:51.159
<v Speaker 1>with what I still think is a pretty good defensive

0:24:51.160 --> 0:24:52.280
<v Speaker 1>coordinator in Bob Shoot.

0:24:52.640 --> 0:24:55.520
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, if Tommy Stevens thing didn't work out, this was

0:24:55.560 --> 0:25:01.200
<v Speaker 3>always a risk. Yeah, the defensive component is quite troubling,

0:25:01.280 --> 0:25:04.159
<v Speaker 3>but yeah, you know, it is what it is at

0:25:04.160 --> 0:25:05.879
<v Speaker 3>this point. So we're gonna sync that to the bottom

0:25:05.920 --> 0:25:09.600
<v Speaker 3>of the ocean. You gave me three shots at you

0:25:09.760 --> 0:25:12.480
<v Speaker 3>before I hit one, so I'm just gonna let you

0:25:12.520 --> 0:25:14.199
<v Speaker 3>go until you until you get one.

0:25:14.280 --> 0:25:19.439
<v Speaker 1>Dan Okay, I guess A two before. Uh let's go

0:25:21.040 --> 0:25:29.520
<v Speaker 1>C two because I got a B two last time. Nope,

0:25:30.359 --> 0:25:39.200
<v Speaker 1>all right, now gotta get away from two. Uh C one.

0:25:40.000 --> 0:25:43.080
<v Speaker 1>You got it, You got it, all right?

0:25:43.880 --> 0:25:47.439
<v Speaker 3>This, I think will be an interesting discussion between you

0:25:47.480 --> 0:25:50.240
<v Speaker 3>and I. I came into the season and I don't

0:25:50.240 --> 0:25:53.119
<v Speaker 3>know if I ever formally verbalized this.

0:25:53.800 --> 0:25:56.879
<v Speaker 1>I think you when we when we talked about tears. Yeah,

0:25:57.720 --> 0:25:58.480
<v Speaker 1>I think that's right.

0:25:59.520 --> 0:26:03.399
<v Speaker 3>We talked did nauseam before the season, even during the

0:26:03.440 --> 0:26:10.360
<v Speaker 3>season about the tiers of college football programs in twenty nineteen,

0:26:10.560 --> 0:26:15.040
<v Speaker 3>and I sort of came into the season with it

0:26:15.200 --> 0:26:18.240
<v Speaker 3>being a foregone conclusion that it was gonna be Alabama

0:26:18.280 --> 0:26:22.000
<v Speaker 3>and Clemson playing for the national championship, and that one

0:26:22.040 --> 0:26:23.719
<v Speaker 3>of those two teams is gonna win. And obviously if

0:26:23.760 --> 0:26:25.679
<v Speaker 3>they play, someone's got to win. But I didn't really

0:26:26.240 --> 0:26:29.840
<v Speaker 3>give anyone else a chance. Ohio State starting over in

0:26:29.880 --> 0:26:33.520
<v Speaker 3>some respect with the new coach. Oklahoma, the defense has

0:26:33.560 --> 0:26:36.920
<v Speaker 3>been mud the last couple of years. Hasn't really mattered

0:26:37.640 --> 0:26:38.160
<v Speaker 3>how good they.

0:26:38.200 --> 0:26:40.439
<v Speaker 1>All light is actually a little bit better than what

0:26:40.560 --> 0:26:44.160
<v Speaker 1>Oklahoma's defense might put them teams through. I think that's right.

0:26:44.480 --> 0:26:48.320
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, there have been other teams right that you could

0:26:48.320 --> 0:26:51.080
<v Speaker 3>throw in there as well, just like I didn't give

0:26:52.119 --> 0:26:55.680
<v Speaker 3>anybody else a chance LSU. LSU plays in the same

0:26:55.680 --> 0:26:59.560
<v Speaker 3>division as Alabama. I didn't give them a chance. Well, now, Dan,

0:27:00.400 --> 0:27:04.040
<v Speaker 3>here we are through eight weeks of the season, and

0:27:04.720 --> 0:27:06.920
<v Speaker 3>you can make a really good case for Ohio State,

0:27:08.400 --> 0:27:10.960
<v Speaker 3>certainly with where their offense is and how their defense

0:27:11.000 --> 0:27:13.840
<v Speaker 3>has improved from a year ago. I think they're number

0:27:13.880 --> 0:27:16.960
<v Speaker 3>one in the SP. Plus if I look correctly, you've

0:27:16.960 --> 0:27:21.159
<v Speaker 3>got Oklahoma playing as good, if not better than they

0:27:21.200 --> 0:27:24.240
<v Speaker 3>ever have on offense, with an improved defense now that

0:27:24.280 --> 0:27:28.359
<v Speaker 3>they brought Alex grinchover from Ohio State, and the LSU story,

0:27:28.800 --> 0:27:32.320
<v Speaker 3>which again hint, nudge, nudge, we may actually talk about

0:27:32.359 --> 0:27:36.320
<v Speaker 3>here momentarily, but the offense has been dynamic. Defense sad

0:27:36.359 --> 0:27:40.000
<v Speaker 3>defense hasn't been as good, but offensively they've been light

0:27:40.040 --> 0:27:42.439
<v Speaker 3>in the world on fire. I think you can make

0:27:42.440 --> 0:27:45.720
<v Speaker 3>a really good case for those five teams as your

0:27:45.720 --> 0:27:48.679
<v Speaker 3>top tier of college football in this twenty nineteen And

0:27:48.720 --> 0:27:52.240
<v Speaker 3>that means no disrespect to Alabama, who has been outstanding

0:27:52.280 --> 0:27:56.520
<v Speaker 3>behind to a tongue of Iiloa Naji Harris, and of

0:27:56.560 --> 0:28:00.600
<v Speaker 3>course they're incredible wide receiving core and a really good

0:28:00.600 --> 0:28:02.920
<v Speaker 3>defense has some injury but are still a really good defense.

0:28:03.520 --> 0:28:08.040
<v Speaker 3>And the Clemson Tigers, which honestly, Trevor Lawrence has let

0:28:08.080 --> 0:28:10.080
<v Speaker 3>me down a little bit this year. You know, I

0:28:10.080 --> 0:28:12.080
<v Speaker 3>still think he's incredible. I still think he's got to

0:28:12.119 --> 0:28:15.159
<v Speaker 3>be the top pick of the twenty twenty one draft,

0:28:15.840 --> 0:28:20.360
<v Speaker 3>but has left me a little bit underwhelmed so far

0:28:20.400 --> 0:28:23.520
<v Speaker 3>this year. The defense is good, obviously, the skilled talents

0:28:23.520 --> 0:28:26.320
<v Speaker 3>out there, they've been killing teams. But I think right

0:28:26.359 --> 0:28:29.679
<v Speaker 3>now that is my top tier. I'm willing to sink

0:28:29.880 --> 0:28:32.679
<v Speaker 3>that previous assumption to the bottom of the ocean and

0:28:32.760 --> 0:28:36.560
<v Speaker 3>say that I think, legit, we've got a five team

0:28:36.640 --> 0:28:37.560
<v Speaker 3>race through eight.

0:28:37.600 --> 0:28:41.800
<v Speaker 1>So what's more pronounced to you the fact that Alabama

0:28:41.880 --> 0:28:46.000
<v Speaker 1>and Clemson haven't distanced themselves on their own tier, like

0:28:46.040 --> 0:28:48.480
<v Speaker 1>something that they've done to themselves that they've been able

0:28:48.520 --> 0:28:51.560
<v Speaker 1>to control, or the fact that the teams that you

0:28:51.600 --> 0:28:55.520
<v Speaker 1>mentioned Oklahoma, LSU, and Ohio State have impressed you so

0:28:55.640 --> 0:28:57.960
<v Speaker 1>much that you have to put them on. It's definitely

0:28:58.000 --> 0:28:59.960
<v Speaker 1>Alabama Clemson thing or the other three things.

0:29:00.280 --> 0:29:02.720
<v Speaker 3>It's the other three thing. It's the other three thing.

0:29:02.760 --> 0:29:04.960
<v Speaker 3>With what LSU has been able to do on offense,

0:29:06.360 --> 0:29:08.800
<v Speaker 3>taking the college football world by storm. They've got the

0:29:08.840 --> 0:29:12.160
<v Speaker 3>second best offense according to some of the metrics we

0:29:12.200 --> 0:29:14.640
<v Speaker 3>look at. Nobody saw that coming. I don't care how

0:29:14.720 --> 0:29:16.560
<v Speaker 3>much you believed in what they were going to try

0:29:16.600 --> 0:29:19.240
<v Speaker 3>and do this year. Nobody saw this for Joe Burrow

0:29:19.280 --> 0:29:22.160
<v Speaker 3>big school record halfway through the year.

0:29:22.560 --> 0:29:25.440
<v Speaker 1>No one saw this offense producing at this clip. So

0:29:25.560 --> 0:29:27.000
<v Speaker 1>literally showing their butt to the.

0:29:27.000 --> 0:29:30.000
<v Speaker 3>World, literally showing their butt to the world, Oklahoma. I

0:29:30.000 --> 0:29:32.640
<v Speaker 3>think we expected the offense, but as we said the

0:29:32.720 --> 0:29:35.320
<v Speaker 3>last two years, just marginal improvement on defense would take

0:29:35.360 --> 0:29:38.400
<v Speaker 3>them to a different stratosphere. Yeah, I think they've done that.

0:29:38.480 --> 0:29:41.080
<v Speaker 3>And in Ohio State. Look, Ohio State's playing next level.

0:29:41.480 --> 0:29:44.280
<v Speaker 3>Justin fields has been, as rabal Or Daine has told

0:29:44.360 --> 0:29:47.160
<v Speaker 3>us time and again, maybe the best quarterback in Ohio

0:29:47.240 --> 0:29:50.440
<v Speaker 3>State history ever through like seven games or whatever.

0:29:50.840 --> 0:29:54.480
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. So yeah, I'm very impressed by what I've seen

0:29:54.480 --> 0:29:56.920
<v Speaker 1>from those three teams. So I think it's both. And

0:29:57.040 --> 0:30:00.320
<v Speaker 1>I don't think you touched on some of the conarning

0:30:00.360 --> 0:30:03.840
<v Speaker 1>parts of Clemson and Alabama enough. I think those three

0:30:03.880 --> 0:30:06.840
<v Speaker 1>teams that you mentioned, I think are instilling a lot

0:30:06.920 --> 0:30:10.120
<v Speaker 1>more confidence at this point than either Alabama or Clemson. Now,

0:30:11.000 --> 0:30:13.680
<v Speaker 1>neither one of those teams has been tested by a

0:30:13.760 --> 0:30:16.840
<v Speaker 1>top tier, uber talented team. They both played Texas A

0:30:16.880 --> 0:30:20.240
<v Speaker 1>and M. I believe that's a common opponent. But Alabama

0:30:20.400 --> 0:30:22.880
<v Speaker 1>has given up more on defense than we're used to,

0:30:23.040 --> 0:30:26.200
<v Speaker 1>and honestly, it's such a tight rope. The margin for

0:30:26.280 --> 0:30:29.800
<v Speaker 1>air is so slim when you're basically revamping a coaching

0:30:29.840 --> 0:30:33.440
<v Speaker 1>staff every year, dealing with injuries and playing freshmen. And

0:30:33.480 --> 0:30:35.680
<v Speaker 1>now it's a great problem to have if you're Alabama

0:30:35.720 --> 0:30:38.040
<v Speaker 1>that you're still Nick Saban hiring who he wants and

0:30:38.040 --> 0:30:40.720
<v Speaker 1>recruiting who he wants, not a matter of who's going

0:30:40.760 --> 0:30:45.160
<v Speaker 1>to go there. And Clemson, I wonder if there's an

0:30:45.160 --> 0:30:48.160
<v Speaker 1>element of what's the line from social network, like do

0:30:48.200 --> 0:30:50.200
<v Speaker 1>I have your attention like you have the minimal amount

0:30:50.240 --> 0:30:55.160
<v Speaker 1>of my attention. I wonder if the medium size of

0:30:55.480 --> 0:31:00.200
<v Speaker 1>Clemson's schedule has Clemson minds wandering like you just you're

0:31:00.200 --> 0:31:01.960
<v Speaker 1>not going to get the focus. We've seen them have

0:31:02.080 --> 0:31:04.880
<v Speaker 1>to take on what Lamar Jackson. We've seen them had

0:31:04.880 --> 0:31:07.040
<v Speaker 1>to take on a good Virginia Tech team that was

0:31:07.040 --> 0:31:09.200
<v Speaker 1>within what a touchdown in the a SEC Championship a

0:31:09.200 --> 0:31:12.680
<v Speaker 1>few years ago. We've seen you know, Miami, Miami teams,

0:31:12.720 --> 0:31:15.360
<v Speaker 1>Florida State teams, and there's just I don't think there's

0:31:15.400 --> 0:31:20.280
<v Speaker 1>anybody that is captivating to Clemson in the acc that.

0:31:21.240 --> 0:31:23.720
<v Speaker 1>I think it starts affecting the way that they're focused.

0:31:23.760 --> 0:31:25.400
<v Speaker 1>I think it starts affecting the way that you get

0:31:25.440 --> 0:31:27.200
<v Speaker 1>punched early on in the season and it wakes you

0:31:27.280 --> 0:31:29.360
<v Speaker 1>up and you're really locked in, right, and I did.

0:31:29.440 --> 0:31:31.000
<v Speaker 1>Clemson's not there and I don't know if they will

0:31:31.040 --> 0:31:32.920
<v Speaker 1>be until they make it to the playoff. It didn't

0:31:32.960 --> 0:31:35.120
<v Speaker 1>really affect them last year they beat Notre Dame by

0:31:35.480 --> 0:31:36.480
<v Speaker 1>twenty said.

0:31:36.760 --> 0:31:38.960
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and that's the cautionary tale because we said the

0:31:39.000 --> 0:31:41.959
<v Speaker 3>same thing almost verbatim about Clemson a year ago. And

0:31:42.000 --> 0:31:46.120
<v Speaker 3>how do they have the killer instinct? They they've been

0:31:46.200 --> 0:31:50.400
<v Speaker 3>killing teams simple that one point victory on the road

0:31:50.440 --> 0:31:54.719
<v Speaker 3>at North Carolina destroyed Florida State. Just beat Louisville by

0:31:54.800 --> 0:31:59.680
<v Speaker 3>thirty five. On the remaining schedule, Boston College, Wafford, anc

0:32:00.240 --> 0:32:04.120
<v Speaker 3>and Wake before a more interesting game than you might

0:32:04.120 --> 0:32:07.360
<v Speaker 3>have expected to be honest against South Carolina.

0:32:07.920 --> 0:32:13.120
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and the Clemson. The The Clemson roster, though last

0:32:13.200 --> 0:32:17.560
<v Speaker 1>year was filled with dudes who had been through those wars. Look,

0:32:17.600 --> 0:32:19.560
<v Speaker 1>you look up all three levels of the defense. You

0:32:19.560 --> 0:32:21.800
<v Speaker 1>look at some of the offensive lineman Mitch Hyatt. These

0:32:21.840 --> 0:32:24.320
<v Speaker 1>guys that you know are are leaders that are able

0:32:24.360 --> 0:32:27.959
<v Speaker 1>to keep a team locked in, and it's just it

0:32:28.000 --> 0:32:30.600
<v Speaker 1>feels like a transition here for Clemson. Doesn't mean they

0:32:30.600 --> 0:32:33.080
<v Speaker 1>can't win the National champions no, exactly, but the feeling

0:32:33.320 --> 0:32:36.120
<v Speaker 1>that the moment we're recording this, there is a different

0:32:36.240 --> 0:32:38.640
<v Speaker 1>feel there is you know, the coaches are trying to

0:32:38.680 --> 0:32:41.640
<v Speaker 1>work in as many players as possible in close, closer games,

0:32:41.640 --> 0:32:43.840
<v Speaker 1>you know, against North Carolina in the first half, or

0:32:43.920 --> 0:32:46.080
<v Speaker 1>Trevor Lawrence is going a little bit rogue to see

0:32:46.080 --> 0:32:48.560
<v Speaker 1>what he can get away with throwing into coverage that

0:32:48.760 --> 0:32:50.800
<v Speaker 1>it just it feels like there's a little bit of

0:32:50.920 --> 0:32:54.320
<v Speaker 1>boredom until they can get onto a bigger stage. Yeah.

0:32:54.320 --> 0:32:57.080
<v Speaker 3>And by the way, just to clarify the reason I

0:32:57.120 --> 0:32:59.719
<v Speaker 3>say South Carolina is a little bit more interesting than

0:32:59.760 --> 0:33:01.920
<v Speaker 3>I think, it's because they beat Georgia and I didn't

0:33:01.920 --> 0:33:04.160
<v Speaker 3>think South Carolina had that in them. Now.

0:33:04.200 --> 0:33:06.040
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if they're going to beat Clemson.

0:33:06.200 --> 0:33:08.600
<v Speaker 3>The game is at home, but I know let me,

0:33:08.960 --> 0:33:10.600
<v Speaker 3>let me let me ask you this and then we'll

0:33:10.600 --> 0:33:11.280
<v Speaker 3>move on here.

0:33:11.400 --> 0:33:11.720
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

0:33:12.240 --> 0:33:16.800
<v Speaker 3>Is this the new norm now in college football? Where

0:33:16.840 --> 0:33:19.160
<v Speaker 3>we've been used to talking about Alabama Clemson the last

0:33:19.200 --> 0:33:21.480
<v Speaker 3>couple of seasons, Is it the new norm now that

0:33:21.560 --> 0:33:25.840
<v Speaker 3>we're going to talk about Ohio State, LSU, Oklahoma, we

0:33:25.880 --> 0:33:28.719
<v Speaker 3>can throw Georgia in the mix as well, in that

0:33:29.000 --> 0:33:30.880
<v Speaker 3>very top tier of college football teams.

0:33:31.920 --> 0:33:33.560
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think so. I don't think there's a team

0:33:33.640 --> 0:33:36.880
<v Speaker 1>right now that I see as being a full time

0:33:36.960 --> 0:33:39.320
<v Speaker 1>threat for years moving forward, just because of the level

0:33:39.320 --> 0:33:41.680
<v Speaker 1>of talent, and Georgia is sort of teetering right now,

0:33:41.720 --> 0:33:44.120
<v Speaker 1>at least at the time we're recording this. But I

0:33:44.120 --> 0:33:47.400
<v Speaker 1>would certainly have Ohio State right there. I would certainly

0:33:47.440 --> 0:33:50.000
<v Speaker 1>have LSU right there. And here's the thing about LSU,

0:33:50.080 --> 0:33:51.520
<v Speaker 1>and maybe we'll get to LSU later.

0:33:51.560 --> 0:33:51.880
<v Speaker 2>I don't know.

0:33:51.920 --> 0:33:56.640
<v Speaker 1>I haven't seen the board, but there's something if you're

0:33:56.680 --> 0:33:59.960
<v Speaker 1>looking long term at the Tigers, you go to Alabama,

0:34:00.040 --> 0:34:02.160
<v Speaker 1>You're like, Okay, you can be the next to uh great,

0:34:02.200 --> 0:34:04.239
<v Speaker 1>they have a five star quarterback, they've got to his

0:34:04.240 --> 0:34:06.960
<v Speaker 1>little brother. You can be the next Dwayne Haskins. Justin

0:34:07.000 --> 0:34:10.120
<v Speaker 1>Field's transfers there, you can be the next Marcus Mariota.

0:34:10.160 --> 0:34:12.800
<v Speaker 1>You can be the next Matt Lioner. You can LSU

0:34:12.880 --> 0:34:15.840
<v Speaker 1>finally has that they have never had that in the

0:34:15.880 --> 0:34:18.920
<v Speaker 1>modern era of some guy who's there multiple years producing

0:34:18.960 --> 0:34:21.000
<v Speaker 1>on a high level. You can be the next Joe

0:34:21.000 --> 0:34:24.760
<v Speaker 1>Burrow is a selling point that LSU has not had

0:34:25.040 --> 0:34:28.840
<v Speaker 1>in the modern era, and that to me feels very dangerous. Okay,

0:34:30.080 --> 0:34:32.719
<v Speaker 1>shall we move on? Sure, you can be the next Kyler,

0:34:32.719 --> 0:34:34.560
<v Speaker 1>you can be the next Maker Mayfield, great Jalen Hurts

0:34:34.600 --> 0:34:37.040
<v Speaker 1>is there? All right? So is it my guess or

0:34:37.040 --> 0:34:38.319
<v Speaker 1>you're okay?

0:34:38.440 --> 0:34:40.960
<v Speaker 3>I guessed D one last time. We'll move off the

0:34:41.040 --> 0:34:46.160
<v Speaker 3>D comn. We'll go to I'll go I'll go A one.

0:34:52.400 --> 0:34:57.840
<v Speaker 3>All right, you missed it? Look in, look in.

0:34:57.840 --> 0:34:59.400
<v Speaker 1>What have I already had? I've already had a C.

0:35:03.320 --> 0:35:07.279
<v Speaker 1>I'll go D callum D three D three?

0:35:11.360 --> 0:35:20.000
<v Speaker 3>Huh no, no, no, okay, I am going B three.

0:35:24.680 --> 0:35:24.919
<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

0:35:26.200 --> 0:35:29.680
<v Speaker 1>What do we got? So the take that I'm going

0:35:29.719 --> 0:35:31.719
<v Speaker 1>to send to the bottom of the ocean I had

0:35:31.800 --> 0:35:34.440
<v Speaker 1>and this was I'll qualify it. This was a worst

0:35:34.480 --> 0:35:38.160
<v Speaker 1>case thing for me. Pitt may win as few as

0:35:38.320 --> 0:35:40.839
<v Speaker 1>four games. Hey, we caught hell for this one.

0:35:41.360 --> 0:35:44.360
<v Speaker 3>Well, they just won their fifth We caught hell for

0:35:44.440 --> 0:35:47.120
<v Speaker 3>this one from some fans who actually listened to the show.

0:35:47.520 --> 0:35:52.799
<v Speaker 1>Yeah we did, and I am wrong. I am. I mean,

0:35:53.080 --> 0:35:57.719
<v Speaker 1>the worst case has now been eclipsed. Now. Pitt has

0:35:57.760 --> 0:36:01.799
<v Speaker 1>had a very strange season. They lose late, but with

0:36:01.880 --> 0:36:04.879
<v Speaker 1>a chance to beat Penn State right with a hail

0:36:04.920 --> 0:36:06.440
<v Speaker 1>Mary that in the back of the end zone to

0:36:06.480 --> 0:36:10.600
<v Speaker 1>tie it, they lose light there they demonstrably lose to Virginia.

0:36:10.960 --> 0:36:14.439
<v Speaker 1>They win in very strange fashion to an underwhelming Duke team.

0:36:14.520 --> 0:36:16.759
<v Speaker 1>I think that was on the road, strange game, but

0:36:16.920 --> 0:36:19.080
<v Speaker 1>a decent enough win at Syracuse and the Carrier Dome

0:36:19.120 --> 0:36:23.520
<v Speaker 1>always tough on a Friday night. And their defense has

0:36:23.600 --> 0:36:27.399
<v Speaker 1>been the best thing in the coastal. It's either their

0:36:27.400 --> 0:36:31.680
<v Speaker 1>defense of Virginia's defense, their defense especially doing one specific

0:36:31.719 --> 0:36:35.120
<v Speaker 1>thing well, which is just causing havoc, which is an

0:36:35.120 --> 0:36:37.920
<v Speaker 1>actual status, you know, tackles for loss and sacks and

0:36:38.280 --> 0:36:43.120
<v Speaker 1>force fumble stuff like that. They are riddling teams with

0:36:43.680 --> 0:36:46.719
<v Speaker 1>havoc and the defensive front is so strong, especially on

0:36:46.760 --> 0:36:50.279
<v Speaker 1>the inside. I'm gonna stand by my doubts on the

0:36:50.280 --> 0:36:52.720
<v Speaker 1>offense because I think the offense is still full on bad.

0:36:53.520 --> 0:36:56.680
<v Speaker 1>But if you do something really really well in the

0:36:56.719 --> 0:37:01.200
<v Speaker 1>coastal it goes a long way. And I was also

0:37:01.239 --> 0:37:04.200
<v Speaker 1>down on this defense. It has been an underwhelming defense

0:37:04.280 --> 0:37:07.480
<v Speaker 1>these past few years with you know, a defensive a

0:37:07.480 --> 0:37:11.640
<v Speaker 1>successful defensive coach and Pat nardoozy, and they now look

0:37:11.719 --> 0:37:14.839
<v Speaker 1>like a top twenty five, top thirty defense nationally. And

0:37:15.080 --> 0:37:19.360
<v Speaker 1>again they harm teams. Yeah, that's good enough, and I

0:37:19.719 --> 0:37:20.479
<v Speaker 1>didn't see it coming.

0:37:21.120 --> 0:37:24.400
<v Speaker 3>Here's what I find interesting about Pitt other than the

0:37:24.440 --> 0:37:29.080
<v Speaker 3>reasons that you just outlined. Yeah, maybe the most eclectic

0:37:29.840 --> 0:37:32.840
<v Speaker 3>named wide receiver corp and all of college football.

0:37:32.840 --> 0:37:34.439
<v Speaker 1>We got Maurice French leading the way.

0:37:34.840 --> 0:37:38.120
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, with fifty six catches. That's French with two f's

0:37:38.120 --> 0:37:43.400
<v Speaker 3>at the double yep, Tay, Sir Mack you Mac to

0:37:43.480 --> 0:37:52.640
<v Speaker 3>seer Mac, excuse me, Nikiyah, Griffin Stewart, will grag, Dontavious Butler, Jenkins, Shocky,

0:37:53.360 --> 0:37:55.600
<v Speaker 3>Jacques Louie. Mm hmmm.

0:37:55.760 --> 0:38:01.360
<v Speaker 1>Got some interesting names in there, Yeah, DBJ, SJL NNGS

0:38:02.400 --> 0:38:05.120
<v Speaker 1>and GS is it tight end by the way, good

0:38:05.120 --> 0:38:07.080
<v Speaker 1>team on defense.

0:38:07.200 --> 0:38:09.680
<v Speaker 3>On defense, playing a lot of close games, a lot

0:38:09.680 --> 0:38:10.360
<v Speaker 3>of close times.

0:38:13.760 --> 0:38:15.480
<v Speaker 1>It's gonna be a weird back half of their schedule.

0:38:16.040 --> 0:38:18.120
<v Speaker 1>I see a lot of thirty to twenty nine's a

0:38:18.120 --> 0:38:21.840
<v Speaker 1>lot of nineteen eighteen's a lot of you know, the

0:38:21.880 --> 0:38:25.959
<v Speaker 1>acc regrets the error kind of games. The back five

0:38:26.000 --> 0:38:29.080
<v Speaker 1>games of their schedule, it's Miami at Georgia Tech should

0:38:29.080 --> 0:38:31.560
<v Speaker 1>be Georgia Tech, even it's on the road. Virginia Tech

0:38:31.600 --> 0:38:34.120
<v Speaker 1>on the road should be tough for them. North Carolina

0:38:34.160 --> 0:38:35.879
<v Speaker 1>feels like a toss up. I also think that they've

0:38:35.880 --> 0:38:40.200
<v Speaker 1>already played three times and Boston College without Anthony Brown,

0:38:40.600 --> 0:38:44.480
<v Speaker 1>so I winning two or three of them seven eight.

0:38:44.320 --> 0:38:49.120
<v Speaker 3>Wins not bad race, seems realistic. All five of those

0:38:49.160 --> 0:38:53.279
<v Speaker 3>games are projected as one score games. Wow, okay, all

0:38:53.320 --> 0:38:56.080
<v Speaker 3>five projected as one score games, and they've already played

0:38:56.120 --> 0:39:00.840
<v Speaker 3>in one, two, three, four five. Five of their seven

0:39:00.880 --> 0:39:02.360
<v Speaker 3>games so far been one score games.

0:39:02.480 --> 0:39:04.720
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. And that Delaware game, that close call against Delaware,

0:39:04.719 --> 0:39:07.000
<v Speaker 1>I think was with Nick Patty, their backup quarterback playing.

0:39:07.040 --> 0:39:10.200
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, right, this is pit games are just me

0:39:10.280 --> 0:39:12.640
<v Speaker 1>entertaining all year long, like South Carolina last season, where

0:39:12.680 --> 0:39:14.680
<v Speaker 1>they're just it's going to be competitive one way or

0:39:14.680 --> 0:39:17.280
<v Speaker 1>the other. Might get a Kenny Pickett like three hundred

0:39:17.320 --> 0:39:21.960
<v Speaker 1>yard game. Maybe not, maybe not. Okay, my turn to guess.

0:39:21.960 --> 0:39:26.120
<v Speaker 1>I believe your turn to guess. Yes, right, let's go

0:39:26.239 --> 0:39:35.839
<v Speaker 1>a four, A four not you know what, I'll give

0:39:35.840 --> 0:39:36.239
<v Speaker 1>you another one.

0:39:36.280 --> 0:39:38.520
<v Speaker 3>You're sniffing, though, you're getting rid am I you're oh,

0:39:38.600 --> 0:39:41.480
<v Speaker 3>you're sniffing, you are sniffing.

0:39:42.560 --> 0:39:44.759
<v Speaker 1>Let's I think I did a two N a four.

0:39:44.880 --> 0:39:47.279
<v Speaker 1>So let's do a let down, look ahead, sandwich here

0:39:47.320 --> 0:39:54.480
<v Speaker 1>with a three. There it is. He got it.

0:39:54.719 --> 0:39:57.799
<v Speaker 3>You got the LSU one. Oh, you finally got it.

0:39:58.160 --> 0:40:01.279
<v Speaker 3>God bless you finally got it. So you The preseason

0:40:01.320 --> 0:40:06.600
<v Speaker 3>assumption for me was that LSU's offensive upgrade that we

0:40:06.680 --> 0:40:10.680
<v Speaker 3>heard about, right, the shiny new offense that opening things up. Yeah,

0:40:10.760 --> 0:40:12.920
<v Speaker 3>that was opening things up. It was gonna be new

0:40:12.960 --> 0:40:16.440
<v Speaker 3>and revolutionary and different in the Bayou. And yeah, I

0:40:16.520 --> 0:40:19.200
<v Speaker 3>just felt like it was BS. I felt like it

0:40:19.239 --> 0:40:23.600
<v Speaker 3>was BS because how many times before have we heard

0:40:23.600 --> 0:40:28.040
<v Speaker 3>about some sort of LSU offensive change or upgrade or

0:40:28.080 --> 0:40:30.359
<v Speaker 3>a new twist or wrinkle that was gonna make it better?

0:40:30.360 --> 0:40:32.879
<v Speaker 3>And how many time I'm gonna lose the weight This time, ty,

0:40:33.000 --> 0:40:35.560
<v Speaker 3>I'm really gonna do it. I'm gonna get back together,

0:40:35.600 --> 0:40:37.640
<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna eat better, I'm gonna work out all the time,

0:40:37.640 --> 0:40:40.120
<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna get off the couch. This is the year

0:40:40.520 --> 0:40:43.640
<v Speaker 3>my new year's resolution of a wide open offensive life

0:40:43.680 --> 0:40:47.880
<v Speaker 3>plan comes together. Previous attempts at this had left a

0:40:47.920 --> 0:40:50.400
<v Speaker 3>lot to be desired. So the skepticism I don't think

0:40:50.600 --> 0:40:55.439
<v Speaker 3>was unwarranted. They've had issues on offense for a long time.

0:40:55.480 --> 0:40:58.319
<v Speaker 3>It's been a thing, it's been a thing, and it's

0:40:58.320 --> 0:41:00.360
<v Speaker 3>just the defense has been so good that you you

0:41:00.360 --> 0:41:05.359
<v Speaker 3>can paper over the offense right. Well, Coach O makes

0:41:05.360 --> 0:41:08.520
<v Speaker 3>the decision, gonna make some renovations. Hurt a lot about it.

0:41:09.840 --> 0:41:13.080
<v Speaker 3>Every now and then, Dan, we have pleasant surprises like

0:41:13.120 --> 0:41:19.640
<v Speaker 3>this in college football where we do some grandiose plan works.

0:41:20.080 --> 0:41:22.880
<v Speaker 3>If you told me before the year that we'd be

0:41:23.600 --> 0:41:28.440
<v Speaker 3>midway through, Joe Burrow would have twenty nine touchdown passes

0:41:28.760 --> 0:41:32.360
<v Speaker 3>instead of school record Joey Dirt, by the way, completing

0:41:32.400 --> 0:41:37.480
<v Speaker 3>eighty percent of his passes seventy nine point four percent.

0:41:37.560 --> 0:41:40.680
<v Speaker 3>Excuse me to be exact, filthy, seventy nine point four

0:41:40.719 --> 0:41:45.040
<v Speaker 3>percent of two hundred and eighteen attempts have been completion

0:41:45.280 --> 0:41:46.480
<v Speaker 3>so far for Joey Dirt.

0:41:46.680 --> 0:41:48.920
<v Speaker 1>That's like two thousand and eight Colt McCoy level.

0:41:49.040 --> 0:41:53.400
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, his receivers have been money justin Jefferson has caught

0:41:53.560 --> 0:41:55.719
<v Speaker 3>ninety percent of his targets.

0:41:55.960 --> 0:41:58.680
<v Speaker 1>Oh god, I don't know what the advertise.

0:41:59.239 --> 0:42:01.240
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I don't know what the averages in college football,

0:42:01.239 --> 0:42:01.879
<v Speaker 3>but that ain't it?

0:42:01.920 --> 0:42:02.640
<v Speaker 1>Okay? Right?

0:42:03.480 --> 0:42:06.680
<v Speaker 3>Five hundred and thirty yards a game. I believe I

0:42:06.760 --> 0:42:08.400
<v Speaker 3>might have saw at least fifty.

0:42:08.120 --> 0:42:09.759
<v Speaker 1>Points a game. I don't know if that's right or not,

0:42:09.840 --> 0:42:10.440
<v Speaker 1>but it could be.

0:42:11.600 --> 0:42:17.880
<v Speaker 3>This has been by any measure, any metric, and incredible success.

0:42:18.280 --> 0:42:21.920
<v Speaker 3>So I hereby sink all of that skepticism to the

0:42:21.960 --> 0:42:26.400
<v Speaker 3>bottom of the sea. Bury it in the Marianas Trench,

0:42:26.440 --> 0:42:28.360
<v Speaker 3>whatever it's called, in the middle of the Atlantic.

0:42:28.600 --> 0:42:31.040
<v Speaker 1>Good call. Just bury it down there.

0:42:31.880 --> 0:42:34.680
<v Speaker 3>And I am happy to progress in this new world

0:42:34.719 --> 0:42:38.120
<v Speaker 3>where LSU has the offense. Their receivers are finally being

0:42:38.160 --> 0:42:42.680
<v Speaker 3>tapped into in a meaningful way, and suddenly we've got

0:42:42.800 --> 0:42:45.520
<v Speaker 3>a new contender that has risen in the SEC West.

0:42:46.320 --> 0:42:48.600
<v Speaker 1>Well, it always seemed like they had the talent to

0:42:48.680 --> 0:42:52.040
<v Speaker 1>do this, and maybe it's not specific for this style

0:42:52.120 --> 0:42:54.480
<v Speaker 1>of offense, like you're not going to take Leonard Fournette

0:42:54.520 --> 0:42:57.279
<v Speaker 1>and turn him into a full on, all purpose back

0:42:57.320 --> 0:42:59.279
<v Speaker 1>and split them out. And you you know, when you

0:42:59.320 --> 0:43:01.040
<v Speaker 1>have a talent like that perhaps you have to run

0:43:01.080 --> 0:43:04.320
<v Speaker 1>a power centric offense. I get that, but you'll always

0:43:04.400 --> 0:43:07.320
<v Speaker 1>have speed. You should always be able to recruit linemen.

0:43:07.560 --> 0:43:10.520
<v Speaker 1>This is an LSU program that consistently, through thick and thin,

0:43:10.640 --> 0:43:14.839
<v Speaker 1>is recruiting top four, six seven classes. Right. Sure, So

0:43:15.320 --> 0:43:19.799
<v Speaker 1>this wasn't an overhaul like Michigan was so entrenched in

0:43:20.760 --> 0:43:23.640
<v Speaker 1>older offensive ways and Michigan has struggled to move the

0:43:23.640 --> 0:43:28.400
<v Speaker 1>ball like LSU has. But just the amount of team

0:43:28.560 --> 0:43:31.880
<v Speaker 1>speed does not feel like it's equal in ann Arbor.

0:43:32.560 --> 0:43:36.600
<v Speaker 1>This was always lurking ty, much like isn't it Godzilla

0:43:36.680 --> 0:43:41.600
<v Speaker 1>sitting under the trenches under japan AfOR all these monsters

0:43:41.640 --> 0:43:44.479
<v Speaker 1>are always there. You know that they're there to I guess,

0:43:44.520 --> 0:43:47.280
<v Speaker 1>protect humanity, and I guess the same way Joe Brady

0:43:47.320 --> 0:43:49.480
<v Speaker 1>is here to protect our eyes and give us fun

0:43:49.480 --> 0:43:53.200
<v Speaker 1>football to watch. Yeah, but it wasn't an overhaul. It

0:43:53.239 --> 0:43:55.880
<v Speaker 1>was simply, let's do something that makes a little bit

0:43:55.880 --> 0:43:57.440
<v Speaker 1>more sense. We have it looked what looks to be

0:43:57.480 --> 0:43:59.960
<v Speaker 1>a pretty good quarterback. We saw Joe Burrow show flash

0:44:00.120 --> 0:44:04.160
<v Speaker 1>is last year, make plays. We've recruited well along, you know,

0:44:04.200 --> 0:44:07.480
<v Speaker 1>into the receiving corps. You know, Clyde Edwards Hilaire showed

0:44:07.480 --> 0:44:11.279
<v Speaker 1>flashes last season as well. They look balanced. The big

0:44:11.280 --> 0:44:14.600
<v Speaker 1>thing is it's just LSU committing to it and everybody

0:44:14.600 --> 0:44:16.359
<v Speaker 1>getting on the same page. The bringing in this guy.

0:44:16.440 --> 0:44:19.279
<v Speaker 1>We're overhauling. We're going to ride or die with this

0:44:19.360 --> 0:44:23.120
<v Speaker 1>offensive plan, and so far it's a lot of riding tie.

0:44:23.200 --> 0:44:27.360
<v Speaker 1>So to bring it full circle, it's like LSU realize

0:44:27.400 --> 0:44:30.320
<v Speaker 1>that their family is entirely made up of personal trainers,

0:44:30.520 --> 0:44:32.799
<v Speaker 1>that maybe they should just do the right thing and

0:44:32.880 --> 0:44:36.040
<v Speaker 1>lean on the expertise and speed of everybody in their

0:44:36.080 --> 0:44:38.160
<v Speaker 1>house because it always made sense.

0:44:38.640 --> 0:44:41.520
<v Speaker 3>It will be interesting to see what happens moving forward

0:44:41.560 --> 0:44:46.640
<v Speaker 3>into the future into twenty twenty. Yeah, so Joe Brady

0:44:46.920 --> 0:44:50.319
<v Speaker 3>and Joe Burrow, Yeah, you know, we'll have to see

0:44:50.360 --> 0:44:53.680
<v Speaker 3>if this is sustainable. But at least in this present

0:44:53.719 --> 0:44:57.120
<v Speaker 3>iteration with Joe Burrow and a really good receiving corps,

0:44:57.960 --> 0:45:03.560
<v Speaker 3>young receiving corps at that, Yeah, they've been dynamic and yeah,

0:45:03.600 --> 0:45:04.880
<v Speaker 3>there are no two ways about it.

0:45:05.440 --> 0:45:08.320
<v Speaker 1>And they've been healthy too. They've been healthy, arras Marshall

0:45:08.360 --> 0:45:10.319
<v Speaker 1>has missed some time, and I know they've been beat up,

0:45:10.719 --> 0:45:13.160
<v Speaker 1>uh defensively a little bit. But the offense by and

0:45:13.239 --> 0:45:15.560
<v Speaker 1>large has had a pretty good run of health, and

0:45:15.640 --> 0:45:19.840
<v Speaker 1>so I am. I'm encouraged because, as mentioned before, you

0:45:19.840 --> 0:45:21.440
<v Speaker 1>can be the next Joe Burrow, you can be the

0:45:21.440 --> 0:45:23.480
<v Speaker 1>next Justin Jefferson, you can be the next Jamar Chase,

0:45:23.520 --> 0:45:26.040
<v Speaker 1>you can be the next Clyde whatever that they're going

0:45:26.040 --> 0:45:31.520
<v Speaker 1>to be able to recruit, not necessarily better, but more accurately. Yeah, okay,

0:45:31.600 --> 0:45:34.799
<v Speaker 1>so let's bury. Let's bury that take new year, same

0:45:34.840 --> 0:45:37.120
<v Speaker 1>old LSU promises unkept.

0:45:37.320 --> 0:45:39.120
<v Speaker 3>I'm I'm happy to bury that one. All right, my

0:45:39.239 --> 0:45:42.359
<v Speaker 3>turn here? Yeah, I will go Where was I B

0:45:42.640 --> 0:45:49.200
<v Speaker 3>three last time? I will guess C one this time?

0:45:55.160 --> 0:45:58.880
<v Speaker 3>That the win you're inching, But no, not quite that

0:45:58.880 --> 0:45:59.880
<v Speaker 3>would have been for the win, all right? You go?

0:46:00.000 --> 0:46:04.080
<v Speaker 1>Oh okay, so I did I got the A three

0:46:04.160 --> 0:46:13.319
<v Speaker 1>sandwich last time? Let's go see four because it's explosive.

0:46:17.200 --> 0:46:24.120
<v Speaker 3>Tied three three here, drama on the high seas. I

0:46:24.239 --> 0:46:29.759
<v Speaker 3>guess I'm gonna go see.

0:46:30.600 --> 0:46:42.320
<v Speaker 1>Two? Yes, yo, sonk my battleship. What do we got here? Okay?

0:46:42.360 --> 0:46:44.239
<v Speaker 1>So I was skeptical and this is a team we've

0:46:44.239 --> 0:46:46.520
<v Speaker 1>already mentioned a couple of times. I was skeptical of

0:46:47.719 --> 0:46:50.839
<v Speaker 1>crowning Ohio State before the year, and I think I

0:46:50.920 --> 0:46:52.880
<v Speaker 1>was more on board with the Michigan thing. I may

0:46:52.880 --> 0:46:54.680
<v Speaker 1>even picked Michigan to come out of the Big Ten.

0:46:55.080 --> 0:46:58.200
<v Speaker 1>The fact that in ann Arbor experienced quarterback, you know,

0:46:58.880 --> 0:47:02.680
<v Speaker 1>bringing a lot of guy back on offense. But Ohio

0:47:02.800 --> 0:47:06.160
<v Speaker 1>State in hiring a new coach, in bringing in a

0:47:06.160 --> 0:47:09.239
<v Speaker 1>couple of new defensive coaches, Jeff Haffley as a co coordinator,

0:47:09.280 --> 0:47:13.880
<v Speaker 1>losing Greg Cchiano, bringing in Greg Mattison now Washington from Michigan.

0:47:14.800 --> 0:47:17.799
<v Speaker 1>I was just thinking to myself, it feels like a

0:47:17.840 --> 0:47:22.359
<v Speaker 1>lot of change, especially with throwing a transfer quarterback who's

0:47:22.400 --> 0:47:26.120
<v Speaker 1>going to be immediately eligible, decorated as he was as

0:47:26.160 --> 0:47:29.840
<v Speaker 1>a recruit. That I almost felt like assuming Ohio State

0:47:30.160 --> 0:47:34.160
<v Speaker 1>as another ten to eleven twelve win team with all

0:47:34.239 --> 0:47:37.439
<v Speaker 1>those changes, with a quarterback thrown in without any time

0:47:37.480 --> 0:47:39.960
<v Speaker 1>in the system. It was a lot to ask and

0:47:40.080 --> 0:47:44.840
<v Speaker 1>almost underappreciated how good Dwayne Haskins was last year to

0:47:44.880 --> 0:47:47.160
<v Speaker 1>assume that there can just be another Dwayne Haskins or

0:47:47.200 --> 0:47:50.520
<v Speaker 1>another great quarterback at Ohio State. So I was skeptical

0:47:50.960 --> 0:47:56.800
<v Speaker 1>and I was wrong to me, because right now Ohio

0:47:56.800 --> 0:47:59.640
<v Speaker 1>State looks like they're the best alley oop team that

0:48:00.160 --> 0:48:02.960
<v Speaker 1>the offense is doing their own defense so many favors.

0:48:03.000 --> 0:48:05.720
<v Speaker 1>The defense is doing their own offense a ton of favors.

0:48:05.760 --> 0:48:09.400
<v Speaker 1>We talked about the speed and competence and just laying

0:48:09.440 --> 0:48:12.879
<v Speaker 1>integrity on every play and the experience of the secondary.

0:48:13.160 --> 0:48:15.960
<v Speaker 1>Damon Arnette coming back. We saw how they were affected

0:48:16.000 --> 0:48:18.319
<v Speaker 1>a little bit losing Browning this past week and not

0:48:18.360 --> 0:48:21.920
<v Speaker 1>playing against Northwestern. But they're just all over the place.

0:48:22.040 --> 0:48:24.440
<v Speaker 1>The defense doesn't have to get all that sweaty, and

0:48:24.440 --> 0:48:28.279
<v Speaker 1>that just softens up the other team's defense. And you

0:48:28.400 --> 0:48:32.000
<v Speaker 1>can't say enough good things right now about where Ohio

0:48:32.040 --> 0:48:34.919
<v Speaker 1>State is at just because they look like the most

0:48:35.040 --> 0:48:39.640
<v Speaker 1>consistently complete team in the country. The opponents aren't there yet. No,

0:48:40.200 --> 0:48:42.799
<v Speaker 1>they were not tested in a big Power five way

0:48:43.160 --> 0:48:46.400
<v Speaker 1>like they had been against Oklahoma those couple times, or

0:48:46.480 --> 0:48:48.640
<v Speaker 1>even TCU last season at least when we thought tc

0:48:48.800 --> 0:48:53.360
<v Speaker 1>was gonna be pretty good. So I am very curious

0:48:53.360 --> 0:48:55.319
<v Speaker 1>about the back half of their schedule with you know,

0:48:55.400 --> 0:48:59.319
<v Speaker 1>some seriously good defenses. But they've passed every test with

0:48:59.800 --> 0:49:04.320
<v Speaker 1>a plus plus colors justin fields so far. Yeah, seventy

0:49:04.320 --> 0:49:07.160
<v Speaker 1>percent of his passes, seventy point seven percent of his

0:49:07.200 --> 0:49:12.040
<v Speaker 1>passes excuse me, have been completions twenty two touchdown passes

0:49:12.080 --> 0:49:15.480
<v Speaker 1>to just one interception, which is amazing first year as

0:49:15.480 --> 0:49:19.520
<v Speaker 1>a starter. And he's also run for a little over

0:49:19.560 --> 0:49:23.720
<v Speaker 1>seven yards a clip and eight touchdowns. That's a pretty

0:49:23.719 --> 0:49:28.840
<v Speaker 1>big footprint, especially when combined with JK. Dobbins, who's also

0:49:28.960 --> 0:49:32.560
<v Speaker 1>rushing for over seven yards at a clip with seven

0:49:32.600 --> 0:49:35.600
<v Speaker 1>touchdowns of his own, especially when you look at some

0:49:35.640 --> 0:49:38.520
<v Speaker 1>of these wide receivers who are doing their part to

0:49:38.600 --> 0:49:42.960
<v Speaker 1>catch most of their targets. Yeah, no standout, There no

0:49:43.040 --> 0:49:45.640
<v Speaker 1>standard way that they've had these past couple years. No

0:49:45.960 --> 0:49:49.120
<v Speaker 1>above and beyond number one option and you know.

0:49:49.120 --> 0:49:52.680
<v Speaker 3>But very consistent, but very consistent. And part of that

0:49:52.840 --> 0:49:55.200
<v Speaker 3>is obviously due to what Justin Fields is able to

0:49:55.239 --> 0:49:58.480
<v Speaker 3>do and his accuracy throwing the football. But it's just

0:49:58.520 --> 0:50:01.640
<v Speaker 3>a really consistent effort across the board. To your point,

0:50:01.880 --> 0:50:04.280
<v Speaker 3>it's not just the offense, it's not just the defense.

0:50:04.719 --> 0:50:07.520
<v Speaker 3>It is both of them working in tandem, which I

0:50:07.560 --> 0:50:08.960
<v Speaker 3>think has been so impressive to me.

0:50:09.480 --> 0:50:12.680
<v Speaker 1>If they are the most complete team in the country,

0:50:12.719 --> 0:50:15.200
<v Speaker 1>how would you game plan? What does a win over

0:50:15.280 --> 0:50:18.520
<v Speaker 1>Ohio State look like? If it is a team that

0:50:18.800 --> 0:50:22.560
<v Speaker 1>is not Alabama or Clemson or Oklahoma that you know

0:50:22.800 --> 0:50:25.719
<v Speaker 1>the team's remaining on their schedule, which I'm sure you

0:50:25.760 --> 0:50:27.479
<v Speaker 1>have in front of you, because this is an item

0:50:27.520 --> 0:50:30.760
<v Speaker 1>of yours. Wisconsin, Penn State, and Michigan are the big ones. Yeah,

0:50:31.000 --> 0:50:34.080
<v Speaker 1>what is that recipe? What is the guideline to beating

0:50:34.320 --> 0:50:35.400
<v Speaker 1>a team this complete?

0:50:35.760 --> 0:50:40.600
<v Speaker 3>Well, you've certainly got to have a power defense, and

0:50:40.680 --> 0:50:42.640
<v Speaker 3>there are three of them here. There are three of

0:50:42.640 --> 0:50:45.040
<v Speaker 3>them in Wisconsin, Penn State, and Michigan. You got to

0:50:45.040 --> 0:50:48.680
<v Speaker 3>do something to disrupt that timing that Justin Fields has

0:50:48.760 --> 0:50:52.000
<v Speaker 3>right now, mm hmm. You've got to have enough speed

0:50:52.040 --> 0:50:54.200
<v Speaker 3>as a defense that you can contend with his legs,

0:50:55.080 --> 0:50:56.759
<v Speaker 3>and I think all three have that as well. So

0:50:57.200 --> 0:50:59.040
<v Speaker 3>I think it starts up front. You've got to do

0:50:59.120 --> 0:51:02.520
<v Speaker 3>something to create this disruption, and you also have to

0:51:02.520 --> 0:51:04.879
<v Speaker 3>be very thrifty with the football. I don't think Jack

0:51:04.960 --> 0:51:08.239
<v Speaker 3>Cone is that quarterback. Shaye Patterson probably isn't that quarterback,

0:51:08.560 --> 0:51:10.320
<v Speaker 3>And to be honest, I don't know if Sean Clifford

0:51:10.400 --> 0:51:12.200
<v Speaker 3>is either. I don't know how much I trust any

0:51:12.239 --> 0:51:14.120
<v Speaker 3>of them to not make mistakes against a really good,

0:51:14.160 --> 0:51:18.360
<v Speaker 3>really fast defense. Can you run the football effectively against

0:51:18.360 --> 0:51:21.600
<v Speaker 3>Ohio State Michigan hasn't been great running the football. Now,

0:51:21.680 --> 0:51:26.240
<v Speaker 3>Wisconsin is pretty good in most cases. Penn State still

0:51:26.120 --> 0:51:27.719
<v Speaker 3>a work in progress. We don't know what kind of

0:51:27.760 --> 0:51:31.040
<v Speaker 3>voodoo they're working on. So I have questions about all

0:51:31.080 --> 0:51:33.400
<v Speaker 3>three of those opponents. I think you got to create

0:51:33.440 --> 0:51:35.719
<v Speaker 3>some disruption though on defense, otherwise you have no chance.

0:51:36.760 --> 0:51:39.600
<v Speaker 1>I think the answer is Wisconsin, and this is this week,

0:51:39.680 --> 0:51:44.600
<v Speaker 1>so we'll preview it. It's slowing the game down. It's

0:51:44.760 --> 0:51:47.279
<v Speaker 1>getting to third and two and getting every single one

0:51:47.320 --> 0:51:50.160
<v Speaker 1>of those third and two's. It's wearing down defenses, getting

0:51:50.160 --> 0:51:53.640
<v Speaker 1>them frustrated, keeping the offense off the field, and making

0:51:53.680 --> 0:51:57.440
<v Speaker 1>honestly making justin field see ghosts. My favorite phrase from

0:51:57.520 --> 0:52:01.279
<v Speaker 1>last season. It's having a defense that can show one

0:52:01.360 --> 0:52:04.279
<v Speaker 1>thing and then drop into another. And not that Wisconsin

0:52:04.320 --> 0:52:07.440
<v Speaker 1>necessarily plays the most convoluted, complicated defense. I think Jim

0:52:07.520 --> 0:52:10.839
<v Speaker 1>Leonard's done an incredible job. And you see the teams

0:52:10.880 --> 0:52:12.520
<v Speaker 1>that they're able to shut out, which to me, even

0:52:12.600 --> 0:52:15.200
<v Speaker 1>though they're not all great teams, they shut out Michigan State.

0:52:16.040 --> 0:52:20.000
<v Speaker 1>That's not insignificant. And there's so much focus and there's

0:52:20.000 --> 0:52:22.960
<v Speaker 1>so much tenacity to this Wisconsin defense. Even with the

0:52:23.040 --> 0:52:26.120
<v Speaker 1>Illinois loss in the way that they lost, I still

0:52:26.120 --> 0:52:28.800
<v Speaker 1>think the high end of Wisconsin is probably the most

0:52:28.960 --> 0:52:31.600
<v Speaker 1>likely upset candidate because of the way that they can

0:52:31.640 --> 0:52:36.000
<v Speaker 1>limit possessions potentially, and if they can get those third

0:52:36.040 --> 0:52:39.560
<v Speaker 1>and shorts, No, that's dangered. And like we saw what

0:52:39.680 --> 0:52:42.360
<v Speaker 1>Army did against Oklahoma last season, where all of a

0:52:42.360 --> 0:52:45.920
<v Speaker 1>sudden you have seven possessions to win instead of your

0:52:45.960 --> 0:52:48.799
<v Speaker 1>normal fourteen. That to me is the interesting way to

0:52:48.800 --> 0:52:52.840
<v Speaker 1>beat Ohio State. And it's a hard it's an impossible tightrope,

0:52:52.880 --> 0:52:53.880
<v Speaker 1>but that's the tightrope.

0:52:54.040 --> 0:52:57.680
<v Speaker 3>I think we're both in agreement that based on their

0:52:57.760 --> 0:53:02.200
<v Speaker 3>blue chip ratio, their number of just really highly regarded

0:53:02.800 --> 0:53:06.399
<v Speaker 3>recruits that have come through Columbus, combined with the fact

0:53:06.480 --> 0:53:08.960
<v Speaker 3>that the new coach isn't going anywhere and Justin Fields

0:53:08.960 --> 0:53:11.479
<v Speaker 3>has got at least another year, I think we feel

0:53:11.520 --> 0:53:14.279
<v Speaker 3>pretty good about Ohio State and the health of this

0:53:14.360 --> 0:53:16.120
<v Speaker 3>program in the foreseeable future.

0:53:16.719 --> 0:53:17.160
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

0:53:17.200 --> 0:53:20.520
<v Speaker 3>Absolutely, All right, Dan, So, I guess technically I've won.

0:53:21.280 --> 0:53:24.920
<v Speaker 3>But there's one more here, all right, one more for you.

0:53:25.000 --> 0:53:28.360
<v Speaker 3>We're completests. Yes, I did see.

0:53:28.160 --> 0:53:38.640
<v Speaker 1>Four last time for explosives B four because it's a word. Now,

0:53:38.920 --> 0:53:40.959
<v Speaker 1>this is just getting embarrassing. This is garbage time.

0:53:41.080 --> 0:53:44.239
<v Speaker 3>Just start plowing through all the rows, now, okay, D

0:53:44.360 --> 0:53:45.480
<v Speaker 3>four D four.

0:53:45.719 --> 0:53:51.680
<v Speaker 1>Here we go close to d fod. Here we go

0:53:51.680 --> 0:53:54.839
<v Speaker 1>going out on a high note. Here across the finish line.

0:53:54.840 --> 0:53:58.840
<v Speaker 1>Everybody's given me sympathy, applause. I am burying to the

0:53:58.880 --> 0:54:04.399
<v Speaker 1>bottom of the ocean my long standing relationship with TCU. Oh,

0:54:04.480 --> 0:54:07.799
<v Speaker 1>don't do it. I am burying it. Dan, I'm out.

0:54:08.719 --> 0:54:10.840
<v Speaker 1>It's a setback, Tie, it's a setback.

0:54:11.440 --> 0:54:16.880
<v Speaker 3>I went pretty close to the line of saying that

0:54:16.920 --> 0:54:21.480
<v Speaker 3>TCU is back. Of course, we all remember their legendary

0:54:22.080 --> 0:54:23.680
<v Speaker 3>cheese at Bowl victory over Cal.

0:54:24.040 --> 0:54:25.760
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and.

0:54:27.080 --> 0:54:30.239
<v Speaker 3>We knew the stat going into this year that TCU

0:54:30.600 --> 0:54:34.080
<v Speaker 3>usually follows up seasons like last year with something like

0:54:34.120 --> 0:54:35.280
<v Speaker 3>ten or eleven wins.

0:54:35.840 --> 0:54:37.839
<v Speaker 1>Right, they get their act together, they.

0:54:37.760 --> 0:54:40.080
<v Speaker 3>Get it together, and especially this year with seven starters

0:54:40.120 --> 0:54:43.680
<v Speaker 3>back on offense. Plus, they were really banged up last

0:54:43.760 --> 0:54:46.680
<v Speaker 3>year to the point where they didn't even have a

0:54:46.719 --> 0:54:48.640
<v Speaker 3>spring game this year.

0:54:48.640 --> 0:54:51.440
<v Speaker 1>Because average out things, you know, health would have suddenly

0:54:52.280 --> 0:54:54.720
<v Speaker 1>progress to a reasonable level.

0:54:54.760 --> 0:54:56.839
<v Speaker 3>So there was a lot to be excited about there.

0:54:56.840 --> 0:55:00.920
<v Speaker 3>Plus in terms of yardage allowed on a per game basis,

0:55:01.320 --> 0:55:04.200
<v Speaker 3>and per play basis. Last year, TCU was the best

0:55:04.200 --> 0:55:07.000
<v Speaker 3>in the Big twelve conference, so there were signs there.

0:55:07.360 --> 0:55:09.520
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, they finished with the top twenty five to thirty

0:55:09.520 --> 0:55:10.440
<v Speaker 1>defense something like that.

0:55:10.520 --> 0:55:14.440
<v Speaker 3>They have three freaks on Bruce Felman's annual Freak list,

0:55:14.560 --> 0:55:17.600
<v Speaker 3>like there was there was a lot to be excited

0:55:17.640 --> 0:55:18.279
<v Speaker 3>about this year.

0:55:18.640 --> 0:55:21.480
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, their frea quotient was quite high.

0:55:21.520 --> 0:55:26.960
<v Speaker 3>Well, Daniel three and three at the moment. Yeah, the

0:55:27.000 --> 0:55:29.440
<v Speaker 3>defense has given up a ton of big plays.

0:55:30.239 --> 0:55:33.839
<v Speaker 1>On offense. They cannot throw. We saw that skillet matchup, Tye.

0:55:33.840 --> 0:55:35.440
<v Speaker 1>We all saw it. We all saw it.

0:55:35.560 --> 0:55:37.920
<v Speaker 3>You might say, well, they don't They don't throw because

0:55:38.239 --> 0:55:40.120
<v Speaker 3>they've got really good running backs and it's not an

0:55:40.120 --> 0:55:43.520
<v Speaker 3>offense based on the pass. And sure, maybe maybe I

0:55:43.520 --> 0:55:46.120
<v Speaker 3>agree to an extent, but when they have to throw,

0:55:46.239 --> 0:55:47.200
<v Speaker 3>they really stink.

0:55:47.360 --> 0:55:48.360
<v Speaker 1>They're just not good at it.

0:55:48.960 --> 0:55:55.160
<v Speaker 3>No, they've got five losable games left against Texas, Oklahoma State, Baylor,

0:55:55.239 --> 0:55:57.480
<v Speaker 3>Texas Tech, and Oklahoma. I could see any one of

0:55:57.520 --> 0:55:58.400
<v Speaker 3>those being a loss.

0:55:59.239 --> 0:56:02.600
<v Speaker 4>I'm not saying they're going to lose all of them,

0:56:03.600 --> 0:56:10.759
<v Speaker 4>but eight losses. Eight losses is very much a at least outside.

0:56:10.360 --> 0:56:13.640
<v Speaker 3>Chance at this point for TCU. That's that's the depths

0:56:13.760 --> 0:56:17.200
<v Speaker 3>to which we have unfortunately now progressed.

0:56:18.320 --> 0:56:22.200
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you can't wait fun quarterback. You just this is

0:56:22.239 --> 0:56:25.200
<v Speaker 1>the most obvious statement that perhaps we'll ever make. But

0:56:25.280 --> 0:56:29.479
<v Speaker 1>they've had what one and a half good quarterbacks since Yeah,

0:56:29.520 --> 0:56:33.040
<v Speaker 1>Andy Dalton, you had a really high level Trevon Boykin,

0:56:33.120 --> 0:56:38.799
<v Speaker 1>and I think a definitely good Kenny Trill. But they

0:56:38.880 --> 0:56:41.720
<v Speaker 1>I mean the Sewn Robinson thing, Justin Rodgers and his injury.

0:56:41.719 --> 0:56:47.120
<v Speaker 1>They've recruited it seems well, but it's just you can't whiff.

0:56:47.480 --> 0:56:50.319
<v Speaker 1>And I know they're starting a true freshman. I know

0:56:50.360 --> 0:56:52.080
<v Speaker 1>that they are going to be issues, but they still

0:56:52.160 --> 0:56:55.840
<v Speaker 1>have two really good running backs Darius Anderson and Shawo

0:56:55.920 --> 0:56:58.719
<v Speaker 1>alone Shawoh Alona Lua got it, I got it, you

0:56:58.760 --> 0:57:02.839
<v Speaker 1>got it. And this is not a tough big twelve year.

0:57:03.800 --> 0:57:06.480
<v Speaker 1>This is not loaded for bear with like, oh this

0:57:06.560 --> 0:57:08.799
<v Speaker 1>quarterbacks and over four thousand yards this quarterbacks and throw

0:57:08.880 --> 0:57:12.680
<v Speaker 1>four thousand yards. Well, Greer's gone, Alan Bowman's hurt at

0:57:12.719 --> 0:57:16.520
<v Speaker 1>Texas Tech. Sam Ellinger is still good, Jalen Hurts is

0:57:16.520 --> 0:57:19.360
<v Speaker 1>really good. Brock Purty dropped fifty on them, but the

0:57:19.400 --> 0:57:22.720
<v Speaker 1>rest of their schedule Spencer Sanders, Charlie Brew is good.

0:57:23.320 --> 0:57:26.400
<v Speaker 1>Austin Kendall, Like, this is a schedule that should not

0:57:26.480 --> 0:57:31.560
<v Speaker 1>have been a navigation issue. Losing to Kansas State year

0:57:31.600 --> 0:57:37.200
<v Speaker 1>one of Chris Clemon, Skyler Thompson. It shouldn't be happening

0:57:37.480 --> 0:57:41.000
<v Speaker 1>with the with how complete in terms of talent they

0:57:41.080 --> 0:57:45.520
<v Speaker 1>look at times, but at times is not. The problem

0:57:45.560 --> 0:57:50.080
<v Speaker 1>is also they're devolving into a pseudo half team. Tie.

0:57:50.320 --> 0:57:55.240
<v Speaker 1>Exactly are they? Exactly? Is I just thought of something

0:57:55.320 --> 0:57:57.440
<v Speaker 1>so mean, but I have to get out of my system.

0:57:57.480 --> 0:58:02.400
<v Speaker 1>Tie are they fort Western? I'm a bad person. I

0:58:02.440 --> 0:58:04.720
<v Speaker 1>regret it, but I had to. I had to expunge

0:58:04.760 --> 0:58:05.520
<v Speaker 1>it from my brain.

0:58:05.680 --> 0:58:08.400
<v Speaker 3>All I know is I look at what this team

0:58:08.440 --> 0:58:11.240
<v Speaker 3>has done, and I hate to focus too much on

0:58:11.280 --> 0:58:14.400
<v Speaker 3>the passing game. I look at what this team has done,

0:58:14.840 --> 0:58:17.320
<v Speaker 3>and I see that Max Duggan has nine touchdowns to

0:58:17.400 --> 0:58:20.800
<v Speaker 3>zero interceptions, Alex Delton only one interception on the year.

0:58:20.920 --> 0:58:23.480
<v Speaker 1>Maybe the ter quarterback run of the season Max Douck.

0:58:23.560 --> 0:58:26.440
<v Speaker 3>Their quarterbacks have a nine to one ratio. Why does

0:58:26.480 --> 0:58:28.040
<v Speaker 3>it feel like they're not getting enough out of that

0:58:28.080 --> 0:58:31.280
<v Speaker 3>passing game? And I know they're focused a lot on

0:58:31.360 --> 0:58:36.080
<v Speaker 3>Darius Anderson and what's his name? Shawoh on Alulu Alua. Yeah,

0:58:36.120 --> 0:58:39.200
<v Speaker 3>I got it, sort of. I know they're focused on that,

0:58:39.320 --> 0:58:41.960
<v Speaker 3>but it does feel like they're almost evolved into a

0:58:42.000 --> 0:58:44.959
<v Speaker 3>bit of a half offense as well, and sure, that's

0:58:45.000 --> 0:58:47.480
<v Speaker 3>just no way to go about winning games. TCU for

0:58:47.480 --> 0:58:49.560
<v Speaker 3>a long time was sort of like my favorite Big

0:58:49.560 --> 0:58:51.880
<v Speaker 3>twelve team. They've let me down so much now that

0:58:51.920 --> 0:58:53.840
<v Speaker 3>I don't know how I feel about them moving forward,

0:58:53.880 --> 0:58:55.040
<v Speaker 3>and I'm very disgruntled.

0:58:56.000 --> 0:58:57.560
<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry, ty, but I'm glad we got to talk

0:58:57.560 --> 0:58:59.600
<v Speaker 1>it out. Bury that love to the bottom of the sea,

0:58:59.720 --> 0:59:01.840
<v Speaker 1>and it's time to move on. We have we have

0:59:01.920 --> 0:59:05.960
<v Speaker 1>abandoned all Central Time Zone purple teams. Yes, we have

0:59:06.040 --> 0:59:09.160
<v Speaker 1>a certain ETCU and Kansas State's got Actually they're a

0:59:09.160 --> 0:59:11.040
<v Speaker 1>good story, all right. There we go down.

0:59:14.760 --> 0:59:17.680
<v Speaker 2>Battleship, great game, Barnez.

0:59:17.920 --> 0:59:20.680
<v Speaker 3>Battleship now officially in the books here on the twos cruise.

0:59:21.080 --> 0:59:22.720
<v Speaker 1>Did you see the Battleship movie?

0:59:22.960 --> 0:59:23.000
<v Speaker 3>No?

0:59:23.120 --> 0:59:25.960
<v Speaker 1>I didn't. I did not either. I looked up the

0:59:25.960 --> 0:59:29.439
<v Speaker 1>Wikipedia plot and that was enough. Yeah.

0:59:29.480 --> 0:59:33.640
<v Speaker 3>No, not not not, definitely an appointment movie.

0:59:33.800 --> 0:59:37.040
<v Speaker 1>Types of spent two hundred and twenty million and domestically

0:59:37.640 --> 0:59:40.480
<v Speaker 1>made fifty six. That is not good. I think it

0:59:40.520 --> 0:59:43.440
<v Speaker 1>made up some money internationally, tie, but it was like

0:59:43.600 --> 0:59:48.400
<v Speaker 1>five people from Friday Night Lights, Brooklyn Decker, Rihanna, a

0:59:48.440 --> 0:59:51.720
<v Speaker 1>guy from True Blood, and the movie involved aliens and

0:59:51.800 --> 0:59:57.920
<v Speaker 1>force fields, proposals being dishonorably discharged, and war games. So okay,

0:59:58.400 --> 1:00:01.560
<v Speaker 1>yeah that was battleship apparently, well.

1:00:01.400 --> 1:00:05.240
<v Speaker 3>This was our NAZ battleship. Yeah, way better. Thank you

1:00:05.280 --> 1:00:08.360
<v Speaker 3>to each and all for downloading the show. I am

1:00:08.400 --> 1:00:11.520
<v Speaker 3>your captain, Ty hilden Brand. He is Lieutenant Dan Rubinstein.

1:00:11.880 --> 1:00:14.840
<v Speaker 3>We will be back on Thursday to preview all of

1:00:15.240 --> 1:00:20.080
<v Speaker 3>your week nine action. In the meantime, Daniel, enjoy the

1:00:20.160 --> 1:00:22.880
<v Speaker 3>next couple days. I'll talk to you soon, okay, I

1:00:22.920 --> 1:00:28.000
<v Speaker 3>hope so fair sees may tees. I'm Ty, He's Dan.

1:00:28.360 --> 1:00:30.400
<v Speaker 3>Catch you all on Thursday morning and meant stance up

1:00:30.880 --> 1:00:31.160
<v Speaker 3>peace