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Speaker 1: Be Around the NFL Podcast has unfollowed the official NFL

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Speaker 1: accounts on Twitter and Instagram. Welcome to another edition to

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Speaker 1: Be Around the NFL Podcast. My name is Dan Hansis.

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Speaker 1: I'm coming to you from a virtual room filled with heroes.

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Speaker 1: Mark Cecily, Greg Rosenthal. And he's back, baby, and he

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Speaker 1: is a warrior. Patrick Claibon, what's up boys? What's up? Everybody?

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Speaker 1: Remember when Alex Smith, I'm gonna get to Mr Smith

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Speaker 1: and just a bit, had seventeen leg surgeries and and

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Speaker 1: he came back and he was a hero. And then

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Speaker 1: if you couldn't, if you just when you thought you

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Speaker 1: couldn't respect him anymore, he got cleated in the shin

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Speaker 1: and he had blood and gore coming out of his

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Speaker 1: sock and onto his shoe during the Monday night game,

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Speaker 1: Uh this week, And you're like, man, this guy he

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Speaker 1: gets it. He he's a true team player. That's what

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Speaker 1: I'm thinking about. Claibon, who had oral surgery, Uh just

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Speaker 1: got a stitches taken out this morning and he's on

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Speaker 1: a talking podcast right now. Patrick Clayban, you are our

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Speaker 1: Alex Smith. Hey, Look honestly, um, if if people are bleeding,

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Speaker 1: uh if you're as the the internet uh sabotages me.

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Speaker 1: But but seriously, if if, if you're bleeding profusely, if

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Speaker 1: you're not Alex Smith, um, you know, stay home, do

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Speaker 1: do what you can to protect yourself. Don't be don't

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Speaker 1: be a hero for anybody. I had. I had a

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Speaker 1: minor procedure to take care of a root canal issue

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Speaker 1: that has been going on for way too long. They

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Speaker 1: no problems with Dan, Dan's over selling it. I'm fine.

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Speaker 1: Nobody worried about me. I'm just to miss the day

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Speaker 1: of TV. I go the other way. I think, um,

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Speaker 1: I think we should take Alex Smith as an inspiration.

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Speaker 1: Show up to everything bloody, even if you weren't bloody before.

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Speaker 1: Just get bloody before you go there. Be like Alex Smith,

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Speaker 1: the only the only roll in bloody sock in sports history.

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Speaker 1: For my perspective, I know I'm no doctor or rabbi,

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Speaker 1: but when you snip the tip it and get bloody.

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Speaker 1: By the way, this I like that. That was a

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Speaker 1: funny money tag. This would be a great time to

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Speaker 1: really put pull a power play within the company, like

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Speaker 1: heading right into um one of the darkest winters in

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Speaker 1: our nation's history, you know, at least in a long time.

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Speaker 1: Just say, now, it's let's consider us. Let's consider our situation. Guys,

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Speaker 1: it's time to consider us. Why did we unfollow all

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Speaker 1: the major accounts? I don't I don't understand the facts

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Speaker 1: that I guess I should say, if if Roger Goodell

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Speaker 1: is listening right now, if the chief of Ventofil Network,

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Speaker 1: Mark Quinzel is listening, uh no, we we have followed

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Speaker 1: of this company and the message. The message is the key.

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Speaker 1: All right, big show today. So we got the Warrior

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Speaker 1: uh two more games on the week thirteen slate. Impossibly,

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Speaker 1: We're not done though. There is a Tuesday game of

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Speaker 1: Sizzler are gonna give you a mini pod late tonight.

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Speaker 1: Uh so stress on extra extra content from the A

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Speaker 1: t N podcast. This show will focus on the two

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Speaker 1: Monday games and also it's been a while headlines from

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Speaker 1: the future as we look to the end of the

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Speaker 1: regular season. We have those mystical powers and we will

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Speaker 1: use them. We're not afraid to use them. In fact,

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Speaker 1: we're gonna do it. So let's dig in and we'll

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Speaker 1: start in the order in which the games were played

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Speaker 1: on Monday. Let's head to Hines Field rather tipped up

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Speaker 1: guess it pays to be lucky. And because man Montess

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Speaker 1: went great job tipping that ball. Wow, yeah, kill that music.

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Speaker 1: This is not Monday Night Football, not branded by ESPN

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Speaker 1: or Disney or any of its subsidiaries. This was just

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Speaker 1: that was the difference. Uh. The Washington football team knocks

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Speaker 1: That's fine to say it, but Chase Young told add

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Speaker 1: They're supposed to make you work. Right, So Fuller misses

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Speaker 1: you know, on a road home game, which they did

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Speaker 1: a pretty good job of making, um making it look

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Speaker 1: like Levi's almost with the tarps and stuff. Pull back

429
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Speaker 1: a little bit and it's like, that's not Santa Clara,

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Speaker 1: but the bottom, the big bell. Bottom also doesn't have,

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Speaker 1: you know, quite the charmer personality of old Candlestick, even

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Speaker 1: though it's a much better facility and not a ton

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Speaker 1: of personality. So you're throw in another red, modern stadium.

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Speaker 1: It's like, all right, let's go. The Bill's defense, I think,

435
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Speaker 1: has come out of their bye week playing their best

436
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Speaker 1: two games of the season. You get Matt Milano back

437
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Speaker 1: last night. I think that's huge because if they defenses

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Speaker 1: are fickle and uh, if they're if they're back to

439
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Speaker 1: being somewhere close to the Bills defense from nineteen, then

440
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Speaker 1: then then you really start thinking about them as a

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Speaker 1: super Bowl team. The last last thing I do on

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Speaker 1: a point I was like, can we can we just

443
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Speaker 1: slow down? The Robert Salad needs to be hired by

444
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Speaker 1: the Lions thing. It's almost like they're telling me so

445
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Speaker 1: much that they at one point they said the Lions

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Speaker 1: would be so key if they were even able to

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Speaker 1: talk to them. I mean the idy he's like the

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Speaker 1: dolly Llama that they should be where at that time

449
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Speaker 1: of year though, when you're in December and the coordinators

450
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Speaker 1: having a nice year, these guys look like absolute like

451
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Speaker 1: Belichick clones, you know, lock it in for twenty Super

452
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Speaker 1: Bowl titles. That was Matt Patricia during the end of

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Speaker 1: his Patriots run. I mean, Greg, at least, you know,

454
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Speaker 1: the Texans don't believe that they'll be able to speak

455
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Speaker 1: with anyone, so they've shut down all searches and just

456
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Speaker 1: they're gonna wrap you know, Romeo Cornelle up in Christmas

457
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Speaker 1: wrapping paper for themselves as their present. The problem is, Greg,

458
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Speaker 1: You're asking for moderation from Monday Night football and they

459
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Speaker 1: do they do nothing, like they tiptoe into nothing. If

460
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Speaker 1: it's a discussion of a coach an issue, and they're

461
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Speaker 1: they're going to give you the full treatment. You could

462
00:23:46,880 --> 00:23:49,919
Speaker 1: tell they love them though. And Leavi said at one point,

463
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Speaker 1: and I'm hoping he misspoke because people made a deal.

464
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Speaker 1: I was picking on Levy all the time, and he

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Speaker 1: literally said Salah Sala said that he was going to

466
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Speaker 1: have his pick of all the job, which either a

467
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Speaker 1: bad job by Levy for revealing Salas said that, or

468
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Speaker 1: he misspoke um because real I can't imagine he's puffing

469
00:24:09,040 --> 00:24:11,280
Speaker 1: his just out that much where he's like, yep, gonna

470
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Speaker 1: be choosing by everyone, Like the last few weeks, you've

471
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Speaker 1: been coming after leaving a little bit and it's like,

472
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Speaker 1: you know, you got testator fired up at you a

473
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Speaker 1: couple of years ago. You want to mess with the Leavy.

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Speaker 1: You see that guy works out. I don't know if

475
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Speaker 1: mess out um Big Tech. By the way, it could

476
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Speaker 1: help the Houston Texans, our company, our startup which claim

477
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Speaker 1: on if you want to get in on absolutely you

478
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Speaker 1: could buy into the company. Yeah, if if, if it's

479
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Speaker 1: just a simple internet connection issue, we have modems for

480
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Speaker 1: days at Big Tech for the Texans if they want

481
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Speaker 1: to start their head coach search. Uh. And my final

482
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Speaker 1: thought is, uh, Greg, sometimes you can be premature in

483
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Speaker 1: saying someone uh did a premature forking, you know a

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Speaker 1: little bit. Everybody getting so crazy about the forty niners

485
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Speaker 1: on the rise, Well they hadn't even got the five yet.

486
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Speaker 1: I'm feeling good about marketised for ye're the one that

487
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Speaker 1: picked him in this game. I picked the bills. I'm

488
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Speaker 1: just saying Playoff Spot has has some potential to be

489
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Speaker 1: ugly down the stretch. I'm not I'm not in love

490
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Speaker 1: with any of these seven seeds, and it it could be.

491
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Speaker 1: It's kind of under the radar that eight and eight

492
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Speaker 1: could be that seventh seed right now. So I don't

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Speaker 1: even say the forty Niners are out of it. And

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Speaker 1: you know, Dan, I I would go back to giving

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Speaker 1: us credit for what we did on the Godzilla Mini

496
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Speaker 1: pod where we forked the Niners, and you know, people

497
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Speaker 1: were critiquing us and I and and let's look at

498
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Speaker 1: our our integrity as journals. Um, I'm quite pro Niners

499
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Speaker 1: and had to had to go there, you know from

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Speaker 1: an analyst standpoint that night. And I feel that we're

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Speaker 1: we continue to stand on very strong down ground. So

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Speaker 1: you know, let's um, we could down the show right

503
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Speaker 1: now and feel good about what we've done. Thank you.

504
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Speaker 1: Is anyone else a little bit annoyed? Uh? Fresh out

505
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Speaker 1: of surgery? How good Claybron looks with this lighting on

506
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Speaker 1: him right now? Like? What is up with Clay Bron

507
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Speaker 1: being so much better looking than us? I'm trying to

508
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Speaker 1: find out with this like copy three six laptop that

509
00:26:04,760 --> 00:26:06,640
Speaker 1: they got me. Like why, I can't why it looks

510
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Speaker 1: like it's pitch black, darkened here like I'm doing an

511
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Speaker 1: interview with It's just like the light is hitting that

512
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Speaker 1: beautiful face and it's just like this, it's almost like

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Speaker 1: an angel. Yeah, I mean we also spoke for about

514
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Speaker 1: five minutes before because Dan could not get over Claybonn

515
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Speaker 1: lost the beard post surgery. Maybe it's a different looking

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Speaker 1: clave on these days. One thing that helps. I've just

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Speaker 1: given imant peace with the fact that I'm about a

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Speaker 1: five point six and it's well, it's not gonna you

519
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Speaker 1: know when you feel good about that, and you just

520
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Speaker 1: gotta you gotta eight, you know how like it you

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Speaker 1: gotta age to just though you know, for for for

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Speaker 1: a man of your age, bump it up to six

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Speaker 1: point six. Well, it's yeah, Mark, you're a six and

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Speaker 1: a half. You are all north of eight. I will

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Speaker 1: say that that is not a that is not yours.

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Speaker 1: Not true. Let's move off this topic because it's depressing

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Speaker 1: for three of us. Um all right, now that's the

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Speaker 1: football for Monday again. We have one more Week thirteen

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Speaker 1: game Ravens Cowboys. Mark and I will hit that very quickly,

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Speaker 1: Like you'll be surprised how quickly we hit it. To

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Speaker 1: the point is like why do they even bother doing this?

532
00:27:16,640 --> 00:27:20,520
Speaker 1: You guys, all this honking, you're gonna end up with

533
00:27:20,600 --> 00:27:24,679
Speaker 1: like something seismic is going to happen in to know,

534
00:27:25,200 --> 00:27:28,399
Speaker 1: so it's gonna be a Minko like flash. All right,

535
00:27:28,560 --> 00:27:35,000
Speaker 1: let's uh now transition to a place that other podcasts

536
00:27:35,840 --> 00:27:38,679
Speaker 1: fear to tread. In fact, they don't even have the

537
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Speaker 1: possibility to go into the future. Nine a d more

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Speaker 1: than a generation away, and yet dreams traveled faster than light.

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Speaker 1: And even though scientists and planners are shaping the lives

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Speaker 1: of our children and will live in the twenty one century,

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Speaker 1: how will they live? Perhaps no honeycombs trunch like this.

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Speaker 1: Take take a journey with our podcast into the future

543
00:28:12,080 --> 00:28:21,280
Speaker 1: century beckons as we make predictions, no premonitions, headlines from

544
00:28:21,320 --> 00:28:27,159
Speaker 1: the future. It's all couched in stadgy old print journalism.

545
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Speaker 1: Give us a headline, tell us what's gonna happen when

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Speaker 1: football ends on week seventeen. I believe it's January three,

547
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Speaker 1: two thousand one. I will get us going, by the way,

548
00:28:45,320 --> 00:28:48,600
Speaker 1: spoiler alert, it should be said, if you're someone who

549
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Speaker 1: looks at the NFL season as a television show, you

550
00:28:52,320 --> 00:28:55,720
Speaker 1: probably don't want to watch the finale right now if

551
00:28:55,720 --> 00:28:57,920
Speaker 1: you're in the middle of the season, and if you

552
00:28:58,040 --> 00:29:00,520
Speaker 1: if you engage in um, you know, I activities in

553
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Speaker 1: the desert, it would not be ethical to listen to

554
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Speaker 1: what we're about to tell. It's like when you're watching

555
00:29:06,600 --> 00:29:08,520
Speaker 1: the show anyway and they promo what's coming up in

556
00:29:08,560 --> 00:29:11,480
Speaker 1: the next segment and it spoils. It's like, I'm already watching.

557
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Speaker 1: Just just just check out now, any I like that?

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Speaker 1: We have yess, That's that's true. It's time to get

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Speaker 1: rid of that. Let us now go into the future.

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Speaker 1: The headline out of Baltimore, The Baltimore Sun, a thriving

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Speaker 1: print outlet. Quote raven nevermore open parathetical losing clothes parenthetical

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Speaker 1: the Ravens. We'll win out m wow, finish eleven and

563
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Speaker 1: five and be the number five seed in the a

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Speaker 1: f C playoffs. Don't worry, Mark, the Browns will still

565
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Speaker 1: be in the dance. But the future tells me that

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Speaker 1: the Ravens are about to flip the switch, a switch

567
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Speaker 1: that we wondered. We wondered if it would ever be flipped.

568
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Speaker 1: If this was just one of those years where nothing

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Speaker 1: works out. But listen to the schedule down the stretch

570
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Speaker 1: for the Baltimore Ravens home against Dallas. Also, as you're

571
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Speaker 1: listening to this, you probably already know the result. It's

572
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Speaker 1: one the better when a lot of pressure. I feel

573
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Speaker 1: I have more pressure on Eve than the Pittsburgh Skillers

574
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Speaker 1: right now that during yesterday, then at Cleveland, Cleveland will

575
00:30:53,480 --> 00:30:56,480
Speaker 1: never beat the Rads, not in this fine not at

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Speaker 1: this time. Home Jacksonville home gra Assets at five and

577
00:31:05,480 --> 00:31:09,080
Speaker 1: oh you already know they beat the Cowboys eleven and five.

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Speaker 1: I have to tell you, Dan, I am in um.

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Speaker 1: You provided the analysis, but I think I should I

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Speaker 1: should offer one of my headlines next because we are

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Speaker 1: in complete lockstep um. And this happened without any sort

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Speaker 1: of conversation. We had similar visions. And this is from

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Speaker 1: the Baltimore City Paper. Um A, it's not the Sun,

584
00:31:30,440 --> 00:31:32,000
Speaker 1: but it's sort of one of those papers. It's in

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00:31:32,040 --> 00:31:34,720
Speaker 1: one of those machines you open. It's got the Wire

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Speaker 1: Weekly Baltimore, the Baltimore Weekly something. Um. It goes like this,

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Speaker 1: mark ingram on playoff bound Ravens colon rest of a

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Speaker 1: FC better be wearing there depends Mark wo is See,

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00:31:52,800 --> 00:31:57,160
Speaker 1: they're gonna be feeling themselves. Um. The Ravens come playoff

590
00:31:57,200 --> 00:31:59,880
Speaker 1: time after what they after what you've just described that

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00:32:00,000 --> 00:32:02,080
Speaker 1: they will do, Dan, and they will be at full

592
00:32:02,120 --> 00:32:06,680
Speaker 1: power Corona deep in the distance, and uh, it will

593
00:32:06,720 --> 00:32:12,960
Speaker 1: be a scary sight in the future. I'm loving all

594
00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:17,000
Speaker 1: this Ravens backing out of nowhere. I've been getting picked

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00:32:17,000 --> 00:32:20,280
Speaker 1: on for my belief in them. Well, you've made excuses

596
00:32:20,280 --> 00:32:23,480
Speaker 1: for them all year. But yeah, that that that they

597
00:32:23,520 --> 00:32:27,840
Speaker 1: could respond there there, there's still some issues here. Um

598
00:32:28,560 --> 00:32:32,960
Speaker 1: already have responded there. They're in the playoffs right. Well,

599
00:32:33,000 --> 00:32:35,560
Speaker 1: they also already beat the Cowboys today, breaking that losing.

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Speaker 1: That's true that Monday night game against the Browns, and

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00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:43,280
Speaker 1: it's it's too bad your Brown's lost, Mark, Um. There

602
00:32:43,280 --> 00:32:45,760
Speaker 1: there aren't many games left on the entire schedule more

603
00:32:45,800 --> 00:32:50,440
Speaker 1: excited for than the Ravens Browns. With the Browns a

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00:32:50,560 --> 00:32:56,160
Speaker 1: chance to get a little revenge. Ah, well, seventeen Ravens

605
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Speaker 1: be Cleveland. So you can still watch it, Greg, but

606
00:32:58,680 --> 00:33:01,920
Speaker 1: the results will not be unknown to you. Do you

607
00:33:02,080 --> 00:33:04,400
Speaker 1: give you a spoiler alert? You can't get upset with

608
00:33:04,480 --> 00:33:08,840
Speaker 1: our podcast right now. But in all seriousness, there is

609
00:33:09,040 --> 00:33:12,840
Speaker 1: a there's also a very obvious chance or not I

610
00:33:12,840 --> 00:33:15,920
Speaker 1: shouldn't say obvious, but a very real chance that the

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Speaker 1: Ravens plays. You know, the season continues in a similar script,

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00:33:20,480 --> 00:33:23,040
Speaker 1: they go, Let's say, I I feel like their floor

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Speaker 1: here is probably nine and seven, and maybe that's good

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Speaker 1: enough to get in the playoffs. Maybe it's not, um,

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Speaker 1: but I don't know. There's just too much talent here.

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Speaker 1: There's there's there's I just believe in them to get

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Speaker 1: hot um anybody else would would anybody be stunned if

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Speaker 1: they want out here? No, not again. Schedule, they might

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Speaker 1: be favored in every game. Cleveland will probably be a

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Speaker 1: toss up, but there they they're gonna have to get

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Speaker 1: to ten wins. It's it's not it's not simple for that.

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Speaker 1: I I don't think there's any chance in nine win

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Speaker 1: team or very little chance in nine when team gets

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Speaker 1: the f C. Alright, Patrick, take us to the future,

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Speaker 1: all right, give me that music. I want to I

626
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Speaker 1: want to get into the zone because some people are

627
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Speaker 1: gonna tell me this as a prediction doesn't warrant all

628
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Speaker 1: the pomp and circumstance, But this is a headline from

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Speaker 1: a paper that means something to me. It's the Gatesville

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Speaker 1: Messenger headline after week seventeen, Gaze is out. Dan and

631
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Speaker 1: you say, Patrick, why were you telling me this in

632
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Speaker 1: December when we know that this is already going to happen. Well,

633
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Speaker 1: it's because the subhead turmoil at the top comes to

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Speaker 1: an end as a name in football returns to the

635
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Speaker 1: National Football League to bring consistency to the franchise. Jim

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Speaker 1: Harball is the head coach of the New York Jets.

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Speaker 1: Things didn't work out in college football. You think you

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Speaker 1: get to pick the players, but you really don't. In

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Speaker 1: the National Football League, you have an opportunity to secure talent,

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Speaker 1: and with a name like Hardball, you can stand the test,

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Speaker 1: this theoretical test that somehow the air the pressure is

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Speaker 1: different in New York. It turns out the field is

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Speaker 1: still the same link the football still weighs the same.

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Speaker 1: Unless Tom Brady's playing. You can win in New York

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Speaker 1: and Dan can finally rest as a happy Jets fan.

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Speaker 1: Congratulations fan, I really hope Jim Harball works out for you. Well,

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Speaker 1: this is this is quite a spoiler, um, But you

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Speaker 1: know the Jets, the Jets have been I'm not you

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Speaker 1: got the Jets have been sniffing around Jim Harball before that.

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Speaker 1: So this this makes a lot of sense. And then

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Speaker 1: you have to the old Chris Westling line, which I

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Speaker 1: love so much. History is instructive. The last time that

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Speaker 1: the New York Football Jets bottomed out in true humiliating

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Speaker 1: fashion from a season standpoint was under rich Coe type

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Speaker 1: when they followed a three and thirteen with a one

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Speaker 1: in fifteen and they went and they got Bill Parcels

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Speaker 1: from the Patriots, and that was the beginning of a

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Speaker 1: really fruitful era for the organization. And I I get

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Speaker 1: the feeling that the Jets are gonna want to make

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Speaker 1: a similar splash here at a time where again I

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Speaker 1: didn't look and I should look into the future, and

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Speaker 1: I had the opportunity to see if they had Trevor

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Speaker 1: Lawrences their number one pick, but we don't know yet,

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Speaker 1: But at a time where they could have the best

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Speaker 1: college prospect UH to come out of the draft since

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Speaker 1: Andrew Luck, when they have more free agent money than

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Speaker 1: anyone that when they have all these first round picks

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Speaker 1: UH to now bringing a big name a head coach,

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Speaker 1: that to me feels like a move that Johnson's might

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Speaker 1: try to make here. So not only do I not

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Speaker 1: question your premonition, Clay Bond, because I would be foolish

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Speaker 1: to do so, because obviously you're right here. It all

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Speaker 1: passes the smell test for me. Sounds sounds like the

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Speaker 1: type of mistake the Jets make a lot. You know,

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Speaker 1: the general managers in place and he has no say

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Speaker 1: over a coach who's gonna wind up having more power.

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00:37:30,400 --> 00:37:32,920
Speaker 1: When when these Bill Kawer rumors came out over the

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Speaker 1: last couple of days, where Boomerissiasin is saying that, like

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Speaker 1: cour it might be interested in the Jets. My initial

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Speaker 1: that is like even the Jets aren't falling for Bill

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Speaker 1: kaor Oki dok. I mean it's like, what what does

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Speaker 1: agent call all the reporters and they're like, now, we're

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Speaker 1: not gonna go with this. So they're like, well, Boomer

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Speaker 1: will float it for you. I mean, give me a

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Speaker 1: break on on Bill Kauer Um. This actually reminded me

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Speaker 1: of a headline that just got cut on the cutting floor,

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Speaker 1: So in case you are curious about that, number one,

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Speaker 1: we'll pick. Unfortunately, the January fourth headline on the New

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Speaker 1: York Daily and he was one of them, is going

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Speaker 1: to be darn it Sam Submarines tank for tread with

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Speaker 1: last second win over the Patriots. Darn it Um. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that I could see that happening. But uh, maybe maybe

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Speaker 1: Jim Harbor would be a terrible move. But I I

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Speaker 1: guess what are the alternative Who's the who's the number

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Speaker 1: one name in this head coaching search? And it's gonna

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00:38:30,760 --> 00:38:34,479
Speaker 1: be a crowded and competitive field anyway. I get Brian

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Speaker 1: day Ball for instance, Eric Enemy, Eric b Enemy. Uh,

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Speaker 1: you could say Arthur Smith perhaps, I mean, all these

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Speaker 1: guys have positives to them, but is there a slam

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Speaker 1: dunk higher if you could pick anybody you want. Maybe

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00:38:47,719 --> 00:38:50,920
Speaker 1: Harbaugh has passed his expiration date, I wonder, and he's

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Speaker 1: I think he might be a little bit nuts, So

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00:38:52,880 --> 00:38:58,080
Speaker 1: also worry about that in New York. But you know,

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Speaker 1: if if the Jets aggressively Wanta or Harbor, I wouldn't

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00:39:01,719 --> 00:39:03,919
Speaker 1: hate it, and probably would blow up in their face

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Speaker 1: just because we're going off the the history of this organization.

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Speaker 1: But I honestly would not hate it if that was

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Speaker 1: the path they took. Any concern that Michigan is a

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Speaker 1: raging disaster, I don't know anything about college football. Made

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Speaker 1: a comment that you don't actually get. This is particularly

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Speaker 1: why like I saw this in my vision of the future,

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Speaker 1: that this is something like a vast majority of football

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Speaker 1: fans in New York don't care what happens at the

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Speaker 1: University of Michigan. Uh, they're going to see the name

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Speaker 1: Jim Harball. They're gonna look at the old stuff and

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Speaker 1: they're gonna be like, okay, and he'll get a chance,

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Speaker 1: he'll like him, a chance that that maybe like an

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Speaker 1: Eric the enemy wouldn't get or any of these Bob

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Speaker 1: Sala probably wouldn't get. Uh, there's a lot of scrutiny

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Speaker 1: that comes without having this this resume that brings all

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Speaker 1: those other things with it that Jim Harball has. And

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Speaker 1: you know, it's I think it just it's what's gonna happen.

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Speaker 1: So there we go. I mean, it's the future. Like Carcels,

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Speaker 1: the best few years um of a Harbor administration are

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Speaker 1: always the first few. So you know that happened in Michigan,

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Speaker 1: that could happen with the Jets, and then it started.

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Speaker 1: Then he burns himself out. And do you have any

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Speaker 1: other negative wish casting to put on my team. You're

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Speaker 1: mad that I'm saying Jim Harbaugh wouldn't work. I mean no,

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Speaker 1: but you also predicted that Donald's gonna blow the Trevor tank.

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Speaker 1: I mean, at what point do you does it run out?

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Speaker 1: This this wish? I thought you wanted them to win.

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Speaker 1: I I could just imagine them being the Patriots. Let's

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Speaker 1: go to another headline. I'm going now, let's that was

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Speaker 1: my backup headline, but I figured, like topical. It was topical,

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Speaker 1: All right, let's do it topics. You're a jerk, believe me,

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Speaker 1: I'm you don't want Jim Hartman. Here we go, jack

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Speaker 1: pot Pole, Raiders in disarray after disappointing and to the season.

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Speaker 1: That's written by Bill Bradley over at the Las Vegas

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Speaker 1: Review Journal, our old NFL media colleague, now the sports

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Speaker 1: It that's great, Double B caught a bird. This Raiders

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00:41:15,480 --> 00:41:18,799
Speaker 1: team taking on a little bit of water as the

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00:41:18,840 --> 00:41:23,480
Speaker 1: season ends reminds me a little bit of the last

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Speaker 1: John Gruden team in Tampa, and UH like that team.

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Speaker 1: I think if things went sideways down the stretch here

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Speaker 1: you have the Colts, you have the Dolphins. You find

747
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Speaker 1: a way to lose maybe another division game and you

748
00:41:38,400 --> 00:41:41,759
Speaker 1: end up at eight and eight just feels like a

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00:41:41,880 --> 00:41:45,719
Speaker 1: recipe for a lot of whispers about everything going on

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Speaker 1: in that Organs is Gruden's not going anywhere. But Gruden

751
00:41:49,480 --> 00:41:52,920
Speaker 1: on a losing streak to end the season just feels

752
00:41:52,920 --> 00:41:55,160
Speaker 1: like a guy who's got to get wild and blows

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Speaker 1: some things up. Say say what you say? What you mean? Greg?

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00:41:58,360 --> 00:41:59,920
Speaker 1: What is he gonna do? He's gonna fire Mike My

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Speaker 1: I'm not saying that, I don't know. I'm saying the

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Speaker 1: rate that the Raiders are are ending the season, uh

757
00:42:08,880 --> 00:42:11,840
Speaker 1: with a very disappointing finish, just like the year before,

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Speaker 1: and that John Gruden is an emotional man who will

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Speaker 1: who will change some things. I do not think Mayok

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Speaker 1: would be would be in any t have to be

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Speaker 1: Derek Carved then. I mean, if it's not car Mayock

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Speaker 1: or Gruden, the low the news element to it is lower.

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Speaker 1: I mean, first of all, what else does the Vegas

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Speaker 1: Sports section have on January three? You're telling me the

765
00:42:33,440 --> 00:42:36,160
Speaker 1: Raiders not bumbling to the finish line? Is it a

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Speaker 1: big deal after being where they were and all the

767
00:42:39,320 --> 00:42:42,839
Speaker 1: excitement that they had if they finished seven and nine

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Speaker 1: or eight and eight, which I do feel like is

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Speaker 1: on the table. I think I think a lot of

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00:42:47,600 --> 00:42:52,400
Speaker 1: things could change, but certainly the coordinator um but also yes,

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Speaker 1: the quarterback I think would be would be in play,

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Speaker 1: even though I think Derek Carrs played well, I just

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Speaker 1: I don't I think it would be in play. I'm

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00:43:00,239 --> 00:43:02,759
Speaker 1: the biggest Raiders booster on this podcast, but I have

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00:43:02,880 --> 00:43:06,040
Speaker 1: to admit my faith is now shaken after these back

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00:43:06,080 --> 00:43:08,319
Speaker 1: to back performances. They shouldn't have beat the Jets. The

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00:43:08,320 --> 00:43:11,399
Speaker 1: only reason they beat him is because Greg Williams got

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Speaker 1: himself fired with the worst play call of the year.

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Speaker 1: And of course we know what happened against the Falcons

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00:43:16,719 --> 00:43:21,640
Speaker 1: that low, so they seem like a team. Here's the thing, though,

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00:43:21,719 --> 00:43:24,560
Speaker 1: here's the thing, and this is why the NFL is

782
00:43:24,600 --> 00:43:27,719
Speaker 1: the most popular sport in the country. Just when you

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00:43:27,719 --> 00:43:29,560
Speaker 1: think you have it off, it's the old Roddy Roddy

784
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Speaker 1: Piper quote. Just one you thought yet all the answers

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Speaker 1: I went and changed all the questions. I feel like

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00:43:37,920 --> 00:43:40,319
Speaker 1: the Raiders, that's so obvious that they're gonna go in

787
00:43:40,320 --> 00:43:43,600
Speaker 1: the tank. That would it totally stunned me if they

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Speaker 1: go and beat the Cult, who, by the way, didn't

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Speaker 1: look so Hot themselves, uh, in their Week four team game.

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Speaker 1: I just think the week is the league is such

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00:43:51,960 --> 00:43:53,920
Speaker 1: a week to week thing that I don't want to

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00:43:54,120 --> 00:43:56,480
Speaker 1: put too much into these two games. And by the way,

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Speaker 1: they did win their last week, so so there's seven

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00:43:59,160 --> 00:44:03,560
Speaker 1: and five. But I do I do acknowledge as the

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00:44:03,640 --> 00:44:07,520
Speaker 1: Raiders fan of this podcast, apparently there's reason to believe

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00:44:07,560 --> 00:44:10,960
Speaker 1: that this premonition will be accurate. Well, I mean, they

797
00:44:10,960 --> 00:44:14,600
Speaker 1: had no business winning that game. Why discount Greg's fortune

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00:44:14,600 --> 00:44:16,440
Speaker 1: telling it all? I mean, where everyone else has been

799
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Speaker 1: taken as you know, I mean it seems like it was.

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Speaker 1: It would be as clear as anyone else's. So it's

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Speaker 1: a premonition. How different would you feel if Jack Pott

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00:44:26,920 --> 00:44:31,440
Speaker 1: hall That's pretty good. If there was a close loss

803
00:44:32,200 --> 00:44:36,799
Speaker 1: to the Falcons and then they are a close win

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00:44:36,880 --> 00:44:41,520
Speaker 1: against the Falcons and then the opposite happens against the Jets,

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00:44:41,560 --> 00:44:44,280
Speaker 1: Like what we feel? Well, we feel that much different?

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00:44:44,360 --> 00:44:47,600
Speaker 1: Like Sam Donald through the hail Mary, Yeah, I mean

807
00:44:47,719 --> 00:44:50,600
Speaker 1: is is there is there that much of a of

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00:44:50,640 --> 00:44:52,839
Speaker 1: a difference over the course of the week versus how

809
00:44:52,920 --> 00:44:56,239
Speaker 1: I feel? I think we're getting into my favorite part

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00:44:56,239 --> 00:44:58,759
Speaker 1: of every episode. Clay Bonn logic, take me through it.

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Speaker 1: So what are you saying, Patrick, I'm just I'm saying

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00:45:02,000 --> 00:45:04,760
Speaker 1: Greg has seen the future, and we see the future,

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00:45:04,800 --> 00:45:08,279
Speaker 1: and whether it happens, uh this last week or this week,

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00:45:08,440 --> 00:45:10,640
Speaker 1: I think this Raiders team is kind of what what

815
00:45:10,680 --> 00:45:12,520
Speaker 1: it looks like. They are the same thing they were

816
00:45:12,600 --> 00:45:15,279
Speaker 1: last year. A potent offense and a defense that that's

817
00:45:15,320 --> 00:45:18,040
Speaker 1: really not gonna bother anybody that much. And so it

818
00:45:18,560 --> 00:45:21,759
Speaker 1: all comes down to Derek Carr making these throws. And

819
00:45:21,880 --> 00:45:25,400
Speaker 1: if you know, if Greg Williams splits his thirty seven

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00:45:25,440 --> 00:45:28,319
Speaker 1: people and you've you've got Lamar Jackson out there with

821
00:45:28,520 --> 00:45:31,839
Speaker 1: nobody within thirty yards and Henry Ruggs can run past them, Uh,

822
00:45:31,960 --> 00:45:34,240
Speaker 1: they can beat you. But if you don't do that, then, uh,

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00:45:34,320 --> 00:45:35,960
Speaker 1: you know, it's gonna be a little tougher on them.

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Speaker 1: I don't know what John Gooden would do exactly, Like

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00:45:38,360 --> 00:45:42,120
Speaker 1: you know, it just feels like, if you know, in

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Speaker 1: his third season, if it goes bad at the end,

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00:45:44,120 --> 00:45:46,560
Speaker 1: he's just got to do something like angry phone call

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00:45:46,640 --> 00:45:49,239
Speaker 1: to Bill Bradley. Maybe he just has a wild you

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Speaker 1: know night out, um, you know at the Mirage. I

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00:45:51,960 --> 00:45:54,520
Speaker 1: don't really know, but it feels like he's gonna do something,

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Speaker 1: all right, If you are just tuning in, we are

832
00:45:58,480 --> 00:46:05,960
Speaker 1: looking into the future. All pertinent information about this family,

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00:46:06,360 --> 00:46:10,719
Speaker 1: it's records, its tastes, and reference material is staught in

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Speaker 1: the central home computer, which is secretary, librarian, banker, teacher,

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Speaker 1: medical technician, bridge partner, and all around servant in this

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Speaker 1: house of tomorrow. They nailed that work pretty spot on,

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Speaker 1: pretty good. Up next, from the Detroit Free Press known

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Speaker 1: locally as Free a Lion in sunset, I'll take you

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Speaker 1: to Sunday morning. It's a report that goes live on

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Speaker 1: our website at exactly six am. From NFL Network insider

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Speaker 1: Ian rappaport Ian's report, the Lions game against the Vikings

842
00:47:07,840 --> 00:47:11,000
Speaker 1: is expected to be Matthew Stafford's final start for Detroit.

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00:47:13,800 --> 00:47:18,319
Speaker 1: Ian further goes on that the Lions are planning a

844
00:47:18,320 --> 00:47:23,080
Speaker 1: complete tear down under their incoming regime, and they are

845
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Speaker 1: complying with Stafford's wishes for a clean break at this time.

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Speaker 1: No bad blood, but Mr Stafford is ready to move

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Speaker 1: on to whatever comes next in his career while the

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Speaker 1: Lions blow it up and listen, we saw it just

849
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Speaker 1: this week. Matthew Stafford through for four yards lead the

850
00:47:52,120 --> 00:47:55,200
Speaker 1: Lions to one of those great fund Matthew Stafford comeback wins.

851
00:47:56,320 --> 00:47:58,759
Speaker 1: That's not really what they need right now. Then, in fact,

852
00:47:58,800 --> 00:48:01,000
Speaker 1: it kind of hurts them that he is at that level.

853
00:48:01,880 --> 00:48:03,799
Speaker 1: I was thinking about Stafford actually, so you have the

854
00:48:03,960 --> 00:48:06,520
Speaker 1: you have a Dalton line established by Chris Weston two

855
00:48:06,520 --> 00:48:11,200
Speaker 1: thousand fourteen, and he is the prime meridian for a

856
00:48:11,280 --> 00:48:14,800
Speaker 1: franchise quarterback. If you're this is you know, maybe a

857
00:48:14,800 --> 00:48:16,879
Speaker 1: little out of date at this point. But if you're

858
00:48:17,320 --> 00:48:19,600
Speaker 1: better than Dalton, you're a true franchise starter. If you're

859
00:48:19,600 --> 00:48:23,279
Speaker 1: behind him, you're not. You're not the guy. I feel

860
00:48:23,280 --> 00:48:26,680
Speaker 1: like Stafford is the Stafford line is for that next

861
00:48:26,719 --> 00:48:30,000
Speaker 1: tier for top quarterbacks, and like that's how you differentiate

862
00:48:30,040 --> 00:48:33,560
Speaker 1: if a guy is a true franchise star quarterback or

863
00:48:33,600 --> 00:48:37,960
Speaker 1: someone closer to the middle of the pack. And I

864
00:48:38,000 --> 00:48:41,120
Speaker 1: feel like his coming off this season, it's been a

865
00:48:41,120 --> 00:48:43,520
Speaker 1: little up and down, but he's still UH in his

866
00:48:43,560 --> 00:48:46,560
Speaker 1: early thirties. He's got a lot of good football with him.

867
00:48:46,600 --> 00:48:51,040
Speaker 1: I think he would be a fascinating UH player in

868
00:48:51,080 --> 00:48:54,040
Speaker 1: the Tom Brady role. From last offseason. Well, I don't

869
00:48:54,040 --> 00:48:55,759
Speaker 1: know if he would have to be a trade or

870
00:48:56,000 --> 00:48:58,239
Speaker 1: away where he gets out of his contract and he's

871
00:48:58,280 --> 00:49:02,880
Speaker 1: a proper free agent. But that's what's coming. I'm sticking

872
00:49:02,920 --> 00:49:05,760
Speaker 1: to the prediction, though we're keeping this within the seventeen

873
00:49:05,760 --> 00:49:08,640
Speaker 1: weeks of the regular season. The prediction is that the

874
00:49:08,719 --> 00:49:11,960
Speaker 1: Lions will be clear and open about this, that this

875
00:49:12,040 --> 00:49:20,440
Speaker 1: is the end for Matthew Stafford in Detroit. I think

876
00:49:20,440 --> 00:49:24,839
Speaker 1: we're blown away. Um, I'm with you. I could see

877
00:49:24,920 --> 00:49:30,759
Speaker 1: him in Denver next season, in Washington, a number of places. Uh,

878
00:49:30,880 --> 00:49:36,960
Speaker 1: And I it's not totally without wait that his wife

879
00:49:37,000 --> 00:49:40,400
Speaker 1: has been popping off about the state of Michigan, about

880
00:49:40,440 --> 00:49:44,000
Speaker 1: the Lions, about Detroit in general. She seems relatively unhappy

881
00:49:44,040 --> 00:49:48,240
Speaker 1: with she did. I mean, I mean it's it seemed

882
00:49:48,280 --> 00:49:51,200
Speaker 1: like a more of a citizen's complained about Michigan. Basically,

883
00:49:51,680 --> 00:49:56,319
Speaker 1: there's some other lockdown um antics. But uh, you know,

884
00:49:56,360 --> 00:49:59,080
Speaker 1: I just maybe maybe Stafford is half the equation. Very

885
00:49:59,080 --> 00:50:01,480
Speaker 1: ready to move on. Elf. I if I someone put

886
00:50:01,480 --> 00:50:03,560
Speaker 1: a gun to my head and say, list your top

887
00:50:03,640 --> 00:50:07,400
Speaker 1: five most memorable Matthew Stafford moments, I would struggle to

888
00:50:07,480 --> 00:50:12,360
Speaker 1: But I don't like what what That's weird and it

889
00:50:12,440 --> 00:50:17,960
Speaker 1: doesn't seem like this is worth it. Well, you know

890
00:50:18,400 --> 00:50:20,840
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, but I put that more on the

891
00:50:20,880 --> 00:50:23,359
Speaker 1: Lions than Matthew Stafford. I would love to see him

892
00:50:23,600 --> 00:50:26,560
Speaker 1: in a different uniform. I just would so Dan, I

893
00:50:26,600 --> 00:50:32,319
Speaker 1: trust start crystal ball here Thanksgiving when he had all

894
00:50:32,360 --> 00:50:34,840
Speaker 1: those injuries of that game against the Browns where he

895
00:50:34,880 --> 00:50:37,879
Speaker 1: had the NFL films thing on the wire. They made

896
00:50:37,880 --> 00:50:43,960
Speaker 1: the playoffs that one time. Oh my god, A terrible

897
00:50:44,000 --> 00:50:46,279
Speaker 1: way to go. Stafford was asked earlier this month, and

898
00:50:46,320 --> 00:50:49,400
Speaker 1: I thought this was interesting if he still has the

899
00:50:49,440 --> 00:50:53,600
Speaker 1: patience to go through another reboot, another regime change. And

900
00:50:53,640 --> 00:50:55,319
Speaker 1: he's been there. He was the number one overall pick

901
00:50:55,360 --> 00:50:57,360
Speaker 1: in two thousand nine. He's been there twelve years, and

902
00:50:57,360 --> 00:51:00,200
Speaker 1: he's been a good soldier. Uh for the four it's

903
00:51:00,239 --> 00:51:02,680
Speaker 1: over that time. He's played almost all the time. He's

904
00:51:02,719 --> 00:51:04,120
Speaker 1: heard a little bit in the beginning of his career.

905
00:51:04,160 --> 00:51:05,920
Speaker 1: I know he had the back issue last year, but

906
00:51:06,120 --> 00:51:09,600
Speaker 1: otherwise he's played every week. His answer and asked if

907
00:51:09,640 --> 00:51:11,919
Speaker 1: if he would have that patience was I'm not going

908
00:51:11,960 --> 00:51:14,920
Speaker 1: to limit myself to anything, which I thought was an

909
00:51:14,960 --> 00:51:18,200
Speaker 1: interesting answer because it would be very easy to just

910
00:51:18,280 --> 00:51:20,760
Speaker 1: give an answer that didn't give you anything to think about.

911
00:51:20,760 --> 00:51:23,920
Speaker 1: But that makes you think that he's thinking about a

912
00:51:23,960 --> 00:51:26,919
Speaker 1: fresh start. I like this, Greg, I like the idea

913
00:51:26,920 --> 00:51:29,200
Speaker 1: of what he would bring uh to the NFL in

914
00:51:29,320 --> 00:51:34,320
Speaker 1: terms of intrigue the spring too. To Cayl Shanahan offense.

915
00:51:34,400 --> 00:51:39,560
Speaker 1: Maybe um, there's a circumstance we'll check offense. I don't

916
00:51:39,560 --> 00:51:42,480
Speaker 1: know sure that would be good either. One. His contracts

917
00:51:42,560 --> 00:51:45,719
Speaker 1: very tradeable. People think these guys are paid a lot.

918
00:51:45,800 --> 00:51:49,200
Speaker 1: In reality, I think any contract that wasn't you know

919
00:51:49,239 --> 00:51:51,439
Speaker 1: that you don't have to give the guaranteed money up front.

920
00:51:51,480 --> 00:51:54,080
Speaker 1: They're all good contracts. So he's under contract for a

921
00:51:54,120 --> 00:51:57,919
Speaker 1: couple more years at you know, plenty of reasonable rate.

922
00:51:58,160 --> 00:52:00,239
Speaker 1: This would be a Lions type of thing where he

923
00:52:00,320 --> 00:52:02,319
Speaker 1: they're putt in a tough spot before they even have

924
00:52:02,440 --> 00:52:05,680
Speaker 1: a GM coach that they don't really have the you know,

925
00:52:05,880 --> 00:52:08,640
Speaker 1: leverage or choice whether to keep him or not, and

926
00:52:08,880 --> 00:52:11,640
Speaker 1: he's making the power play. You know that that would

927
00:52:11,680 --> 00:52:14,399
Speaker 1: be problematic for them, But I also could see that

928
00:52:14,440 --> 00:52:18,160
Speaker 1: time he's playing out that way. It has before. Let's

929
00:52:18,320 --> 00:52:25,520
Speaker 1: move on Patrick paying a picture for you. The season

930
00:52:25,560 --> 00:52:31,240
Speaker 1: has just ended. Expectations have been met by some teams

931
00:52:31,239 --> 00:52:37,800
Speaker 1: and not met by others. But the headline in Miami.

932
00:52:39,280 --> 00:52:44,600
Speaker 1: Pick your favorite newspaper. It's um there's so many in

933
00:52:44,640 --> 00:52:51,920
Speaker 1: Miami Beach. Miami. He not thin ish as to a

934
00:52:51,920 --> 00:52:56,640
Speaker 1: tongue of viola. And the Miami Dolphins knockoff presumptive contender

935
00:52:57,280 --> 00:53:00,360
Speaker 1: the Buffalo Bills in the final week of the season.

936
00:53:02,200 --> 00:53:09,839
Speaker 1: S t A. Shine Finns went what shorter that time,

937
00:53:10,160 --> 00:53:14,560
Speaker 1: looking into the future, seeing the southad recognizing the way

938
00:53:14,600 --> 00:53:22,240
Speaker 1: things go. Dolphins underrated newspaper corps really and beat beat

939
00:53:22,239 --> 00:53:25,480
Speaker 1: writer group in Miami. You got the Herald, you got

940
00:53:25,480 --> 00:53:27,880
Speaker 1: the Palm Beach Post, you got the South Florida Sun Sentinel.

941
00:53:28,000 --> 00:53:32,480
Speaker 1: Most towns down to one paper one uh, you know,

942
00:53:32,600 --> 00:53:35,399
Speaker 1: great local coverage. Miami still got three. Still well, you've

943
00:53:35,400 --> 00:53:37,800
Speaker 1: got a lot of older people that remember the concept

944
00:53:37,800 --> 00:53:40,480
Speaker 1: of reading newspapers in a younger city. There are some

945
00:53:40,480 --> 00:53:42,560
Speaker 1: people that have never done that. So it's a good

946
00:53:42,560 --> 00:53:45,640
Speaker 1: point and they still have them to read, which is

947
00:53:45,680 --> 00:53:53,960
Speaker 1: which is keywhere That's the week seventeen game, and they

948
00:53:54,000 --> 00:53:57,120
Speaker 1: are one game behind the Bills right now. The Bills

949
00:53:57,840 --> 00:54:02,680
Speaker 1: one their previous matchup this year, so obviously, for multiple reasons,

950
00:54:03,160 --> 00:54:06,000
Speaker 1: Dolbins need to win. That would then be the tied

951
00:54:06,080 --> 00:54:09,000
Speaker 1: and the head to head and then if they assume

952
00:54:09,080 --> 00:54:13,279
Speaker 1: they're tying their final record or I shouldn't assume that

953
00:54:13,760 --> 00:54:16,640
Speaker 1: they just they get in. They get in the playoffs.

954
00:54:16,640 --> 00:54:20,200
Speaker 1: You don't need to win the division, gotcha. They have

955
00:54:20,320 --> 00:54:23,399
Speaker 1: the toughest schedule of any team down the stretch. They

956
00:54:23,440 --> 00:54:28,360
Speaker 1: do not play a losing team. They play the Chiefs,

957
00:54:28,719 --> 00:54:33,799
Speaker 1: they play the Patriots, they play the Bills. Forgetting who

958
00:54:33,880 --> 00:54:36,279
Speaker 1: the fourth team is, I said, I think it's the Raiders.

959
00:54:36,320 --> 00:54:39,520
Speaker 1: So that is a playoff stretch. That is a tough slate.

960
00:54:39,600 --> 00:54:41,800
Speaker 1: And if they can get out of there two and two,

961
00:54:42,400 --> 00:54:45,360
Speaker 1: I think is reasonable. I think you get to ten wins,

962
00:54:45,480 --> 00:54:47,680
Speaker 1: and I think Brian Flores wins Coach of the Year

963
00:54:48,520 --> 00:54:50,960
Speaker 1: in this deep of a field. I think they might

964
00:54:50,960 --> 00:54:54,240
Speaker 1: need to get to the playoffs to sway those voters,

965
00:54:54,239 --> 00:54:56,160
Speaker 1: because I think that all those Coach of the Year

966
00:54:56,239 --> 00:55:00,560
Speaker 1: votes are going to be split. I feel like the

967
00:55:00,600 --> 00:55:03,719
Speaker 1: Coach of the Year might go to someone in the

968
00:55:03,760 --> 00:55:07,120
Speaker 1: a f C East. I still think Belichick could get

969
00:55:07,160 --> 00:55:11,560
Speaker 1: it if they make the playoffs. You gotta win out.

970
00:55:11,600 --> 00:55:15,000
Speaker 1: You got Stefanski, you got Sean Payton went in with backups.

971
00:55:15,120 --> 00:55:18,600
Speaker 1: You got Tomlin, you got La fleur and so you

972
00:55:18,719 --> 00:55:21,359
Speaker 1: go in a lot of dude, pretty crowded field. Yeah,

973
00:55:21,520 --> 00:55:24,759
Speaker 1: all right up next, Mark sess, well, I you know,

974
00:55:24,800 --> 00:55:27,440
Speaker 1: I know that we UM. We've spoken at length on

975
00:55:27,600 --> 00:55:30,320
Speaker 1: during this segment. I'm gonna offer too quick um NFL

976
00:55:30,560 --> 00:55:35,360
Speaker 1: business headlines that will create some issues at the end

977
00:55:35,400 --> 00:55:38,200
Speaker 1: of the season. Both comes to your head, your head,

978
00:55:38,320 --> 00:55:41,560
Speaker 1: Sue stop, Sue stop. No, it wasn't Stafford that got stopped.

979
00:55:42,200 --> 00:55:50,799
Speaker 1: Now we're past that. Now shall I continue this? Mark

980
00:55:50,880 --> 00:55:56,160
Speaker 1: Maski from the Washington Post bubble Butts Colin n f

981
00:55:56,320 --> 00:55:59,800
Speaker 1: L p A votes no on Puerto Rico postseason safe space.

982
00:56:00,160 --> 00:56:03,759
Speaker 1: Now when you read this, it's bubble butts b u

983
00:56:03,840 --> 00:56:07,799
Speaker 1: t s as in a bubble but nice idea, but

984
00:56:08,080 --> 00:56:10,480
Speaker 1: we aren't doing it. The NFL p p A will

985
00:56:10,480 --> 00:56:13,600
Speaker 1: not be into the idea of UM gathering as a

986
00:56:13,640 --> 00:56:17,680
Speaker 1: playoff field in Puerto Rico after too many arguments in

987
00:56:17,719 --> 00:56:21,280
Speaker 1: the United States over where that would take place and contingencies.

988
00:56:21,400 --> 00:56:24,600
Speaker 1: Second quick business headline, yummy, yummy, put this game in

989
00:56:24,680 --> 00:56:28,640
Speaker 1: my tummy. This one is concerning Phil Mushnick of The

990
00:56:28,640 --> 00:56:33,320
Speaker 1: New York Post that that old dog he grinding. Bach

991
00:56:34,840 --> 00:56:39,640
Speaker 1: Goodell says Tuesday Wednesday, Thursday games and quotes a possibility

992
00:56:39,680 --> 00:56:46,920
Speaker 1: for and beyond. You know, they're loving these standalone operations

993
00:56:47,760 --> 00:56:50,280
Speaker 1: here in the middle of the fall and early winter.

994
00:56:50,920 --> 00:56:55,240
Speaker 1: Games every day, mimicking baseball and football are little lives

995
00:56:55,280 --> 00:56:59,319
Speaker 1: that used to be contained to simply Monday, Sundays and Thursdays.

996
00:56:59,560 --> 00:57:02,799
Speaker 1: No law, younger family, chaos ahead. This will be the

997
00:57:02,840 --> 00:57:05,880
Speaker 1: first season in the history of the National Football League,

998
00:57:05,880 --> 00:57:09,160
Speaker 1: our league where there are games on all seven days

999
00:57:09,239 --> 00:57:12,200
Speaker 1: of the week. I was reading the New York Times

1000
00:57:12,680 --> 00:57:15,759
Speaker 1: a COVID nineteen coverage at four am this morning, because

1001
00:57:15,800 --> 00:57:18,960
Speaker 1: that's what I do now to clear my mind. And

1002
00:57:19,680 --> 00:57:23,439
Speaker 1: uh there was a comment that with the vaccine now

1003
00:57:24,800 --> 00:57:27,440
Speaker 1: ready to be rolled out and it has begun over

1004
00:57:27,480 --> 00:57:32,920
Speaker 1: there in the UK, congratulations to everybody there us and

1005
00:57:32,920 --> 00:57:36,440
Speaker 1: and hopefully uh coming here soon and it works and everybody,

1006
00:57:36,600 --> 00:57:39,080
Speaker 1: we can move past this. There is a belief, according

1007
00:57:39,120 --> 00:57:42,160
Speaker 1: to the New York Times, that we will return to

1008
00:57:42,240 --> 00:57:47,640
Speaker 1: a normal life potentially by the fall of which lines

1009
00:57:47,760 --> 00:57:51,240
Speaker 1: up perfectly for the old National Football League potentially, uh

1010
00:57:51,280 --> 00:57:54,360
Speaker 1: to if they can just get through the rest of

1011
00:57:54,400 --> 00:57:58,040
Speaker 1: this month, through the playoffs the Super Bowl. That the

1012
00:57:58,080 --> 00:58:02,000
Speaker 1: way the schedule sets up, the NFL will have dodged

1013
00:58:02,120 --> 00:58:07,200
Speaker 1: COVID nineteen uh for the back half hopefully of this wretched,

1014
00:58:07,760 --> 00:58:11,920
Speaker 1: wretched disease. Is it a disease? Whatever? We could have

1015
00:58:12,000 --> 00:58:15,000
Speaker 1: used our some of our fortune telling skills on actual

1016
00:58:15,080 --> 00:58:18,200
Speaker 1: matters such as that, but we um, we stuck with

1017
00:58:18,360 --> 00:58:22,080
Speaker 1: divisional races in wildcuard entries. Weird that Muchneck seemed to

1018
00:58:22,120 --> 00:58:26,600
Speaker 1: be addressing that headline to use specifically keep working batches. Yeah,

1019
00:58:26,640 --> 00:58:28,120
Speaker 1: I think so what he's sort of like he doesn't

1020
00:58:28,120 --> 00:58:29,800
Speaker 1: you know, he can pick and choose what he feels

1021
00:58:30,000 --> 00:58:32,240
Speaker 1: like covering up. He's a little cranky. Yeah, maybe he

1022
00:58:32,280 --> 00:58:36,560
Speaker 1: could get a vaccine for being a horrible person. I

1023
00:58:36,600 --> 00:58:38,720
Speaker 1: don't know him personally, is he is? He not a fun,

1024
00:58:39,280 --> 00:58:41,680
Speaker 1: fun gentleman. I think if if we were to extend

1025
00:58:41,720 --> 00:58:45,800
Speaker 1: trash takes for you know, the duration, he would be

1026
00:58:45,920 --> 00:58:48,640
Speaker 1: he would be a pie on the list. Yes, he would.

1027
00:58:48,800 --> 00:58:52,000
Speaker 1: All Right, close this out, Greg Rosenvalk, it's a lot

1028
00:58:52,000 --> 00:58:58,280
Speaker 1: of pressure. Um Alright, Week Week seventeen just ended January

1029
00:58:58,320 --> 00:59:02,280
Speaker 1: four morning. They're still doing the New Orleans Times pigun

1030
00:59:02,400 --> 00:59:06,800
Speaker 1: three times a week. I believe I wish it was

1031
00:59:06,840 --> 00:59:11,000
Speaker 1: every day. What a paper headline from Jeff Duncan here

1032
00:59:12,320 --> 00:59:18,840
Speaker 1: time to live on Taysom Hill question Mark Breezes December

1033
00:59:18,920 --> 00:59:26,040
Speaker 1: struggles opens the door for new QB, but he'll he'll

1034
00:59:26,080 --> 00:59:33,640
Speaker 1: live on comes back totally considered in this scenario. Maybe

1035
00:59:33,680 --> 00:59:36,920
Speaker 1: Taysom Hill starts this week against Philly, maybe it doesn't,

1036
00:59:36,960 --> 00:59:41,760
Speaker 1: but either way Breeze comes back. Looks like you would

1037
00:59:41,800 --> 00:59:46,040
Speaker 1: expect a forty one year old human who had just

1038
00:59:46,120 --> 00:59:51,480
Speaker 1: had all sorts of rich Is he forty one um

1039
00:59:51,480 --> 00:59:54,880
Speaker 1: to to play in a in a highly competitive physical

1040
00:59:55,400 --> 00:59:59,720
Speaker 1: sport um with some struggles in December reopening um a

1041
01:00:00,080 --> 01:00:02,560
Speaker 1: order back question potentially even for a number one seed.

1042
01:00:03,160 --> 01:00:06,680
Speaker 1: We have this conversation. I was on The Good Show

1043
01:00:06,720 --> 01:00:09,000
Speaker 1: with Ben Ennis and J. D. Bunkus up in Toronto

1044
01:00:09,080 --> 01:00:13,480
Speaker 1: this morning. We talked about this very topic and my

1045
01:00:13,680 --> 01:00:15,920
Speaker 1: take on where they're at right now with this quarterback

1046
01:00:15,960 --> 01:00:22,160
Speaker 1: battle or potential battle or showdown is Taysom Hill, if

1047
01:00:22,160 --> 01:00:26,200
Speaker 1: he plays this week against the Eagles and lights up

1048
01:00:26,240 --> 01:00:28,720
Speaker 1: the Eagles, plays that basically the level he played this

1049
01:00:28,760 --> 01:00:32,040
Speaker 1: past Sunday. It gets really interesting. I think if he

1050
01:00:32,400 --> 01:00:34,760
Speaker 1: if he either heads to the bench on Sunday and

1051
01:00:34,800 --> 01:00:38,200
Speaker 1: Breeze takes over, or he plays closer to his first

1052
01:00:38,200 --> 01:00:40,320
Speaker 1: two starts, I think that takes some of the air

1053
01:00:40,360 --> 01:00:42,800
Speaker 1: out of the balloon of this drama. But if he

1054
01:00:42,920 --> 01:00:45,880
Speaker 1: lights up the Eagles, I still think Peyton goes back

1055
01:00:45,920 --> 01:00:49,520
Speaker 1: to Breeze because of the loyalty factor in and the

1056
01:00:49,600 --> 01:00:53,280
Speaker 1: fact it's almost like a Peyton Manning uh and Gary

1057
01:00:53,360 --> 01:00:56,040
Speaker 1: Kubiak in Matt Manning's last season when they went back

1058
01:00:56,040 --> 01:00:58,200
Speaker 1: to him, even though maybe you weren't sure if it

1059
01:00:58,240 --> 01:01:01,680
Speaker 1: was the right move. But if he does struggle and

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Speaker 1: and and Peyton has that memory of those last two starts,

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Speaker 1: by by taste, how could you not consider they're all

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Speaker 1: in for a Super Bowl. I mean, if you have,

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Speaker 1: if you have a better option at quarterback, how can

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Speaker 1: you ignore it. I think it's all about Breeze if anything.

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Speaker 1: I think the way that game ended, if that happens

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Speaker 1: to be last taste and start, will be a pretty

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Speaker 1: bitter um taste in Sean Payton's mouth. Fumbling twice in

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Speaker 1: the fourth quarter, including just a ghastly one which which

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Speaker 1: almost lost the game for them. I you know, going

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Speaker 1: twenty five minutes without scoring is something I think that

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Speaker 1: you know, against Atlanta, I think is something that Sean

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Speaker 1: Payton is gonna remember, but I'm basing this more on

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Speaker 1: Breeze that if he comes back at at his age,

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Speaker 1: he's had some struggles this year and understandably looks his

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Speaker 1: age off those injuries. That then that opens the door

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01:01:55,200 --> 01:01:56,880
Speaker 1: and they're gonna have to think about it. I wonder

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Speaker 1: if they've ever platoon each for like a half or something,

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Speaker 1: But I don't know, Greg, it's your prediction, so you

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Speaker 1: you could actually answer that question, but I'll wait for

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Speaker 1: the trauma to unfold. Well, at this point, I'm just

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Speaker 1: setting setting you up that Breeze has his struggles and

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Speaker 1: it and it becomes very much an open question. But

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Speaker 1: the struggles that that anybody could have, uh late and

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Speaker 1: late in the season, Um, the struggles the easily that

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Speaker 1: that Taysom Hill could have. But as Gregg has seen

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Speaker 1: the future, right, um, we don't. We already know there's

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Speaker 1: not much future for Drew Brees left. And so whether

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Speaker 1: it's if if we don't even see jamis right, It's

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Speaker 1: kind of it's kind of presumed that, well it's it's

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Speaker 1: gonna be tayso Tom right, if we don't, if we

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Speaker 1: don't see James through this stretch, then then what else

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Speaker 1: would the Saints do in the absence of Drew Brees. Well,

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Speaker 1: it might be a media thing too, But yeah, you're

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Speaker 1: just I'm very curious to see, like, let's say that

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Speaker 1: he comes back for Chief Saints week fifteen. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I don't know. I'm just curious to see how Drew threes.

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Speaker 1: We now, ladies and gentlemen, close the curtain, the mystical curtain,

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Speaker 1: and take you out of the future and bring you

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Speaker 1: back to the reality of the present. Tell no one

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Speaker 1: of what you heard today, what's next. The things you've

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01:03:34,800 --> 01:03:38,840
Speaker 1: seen are technically possible. It remains only to apply what

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Speaker 1: we now know to fulfill these dreams of tomorrow. The

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01:03:43,200 --> 01:03:48,560
Speaker 1: world and beyond is limited only by the boundaries of

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Speaker 1: our imagination. Today, I just got dark there. I'll think

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Speaker 1: we made it. We're stuck, all right, Before we go,

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Speaker 1: let's look ahead now, a little bit closer into the future.

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Speaker 1: No predictions here, but Thursday Night Football, the beginning of

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Speaker 1: week fourteen. And Greg, I know you are very excited

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Speaker 1: about this match. It's the battle for my household, you know,

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Speaker 1: my my two kids on the opposite side of Rams Patriots.

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01:04:24,920 --> 01:04:27,960
Speaker 1: My wife started become a Rams fan. It's not gonna

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Speaker 1: extinguish the memories of Super Bowl fifty three for Rams fans.

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Speaker 1: But I do think it would be a nice game.

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Speaker 1: Was what a memory? Um? I do think it's It

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01:04:40,720 --> 01:04:44,320
Speaker 1: would be an important hill the climb for them because

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Speaker 1: they shouldn't lose this game. They are more talented, they

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Speaker 1: are more balanced, and I think if they did lose

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Speaker 1: to to an admittedly frisky Patriots team, it would probably

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Speaker 1: because Jared Goff was outwitted and that the Ram we're

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Speaker 1: out coached. They they they have more talent, and this

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Speaker 1: is a spot when you look at their schedule. They

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Speaker 1: should win the NFC West if they beat the Seahawks

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Speaker 1: in Week sixteen. The only way they could trip up

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Speaker 1: is lose a game that you shouldn't and I would

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Speaker 1: put that into this category. The Patriots are going to

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Speaker 1: try to ugly it up with with long drives on

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Speaker 1: both sides of the ball, really and keep the score low.

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Speaker 1: And and that wouldn't surprise me if that happens. But

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Speaker 1: they they should have more. They really should have more

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Speaker 1: than the Patriots. I wouldn't be shocked at this. The

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Speaker 1: final score, we're kind of close to that weird Super

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Speaker 1: Bowl score that no one predicted. I mean, maybe not

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Speaker 1: as severe for the Rams, but I look at the

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Speaker 1: Patriots the four and one over the last five games,

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Speaker 1: and even forget just the last two games, what they

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Speaker 1: did to Kyler Murray Um, what they did to Justin Herbert,

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Speaker 1: what Stephan Gilmour did to DeAndre Hopkins fifty five yards

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01:05:56,760 --> 01:05:59,840
Speaker 1: Keenan Allen last week forty eight yards. No receiver or

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01:06:00,040 --> 01:06:03,520
Speaker 1: n back for the Chargers had more. They they erased

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01:06:03,560 --> 01:06:06,120
Speaker 1: that offense. Uh. And I mean, I understand that's Belichick

1141
01:06:06,200 --> 01:06:11,800
Speaker 1: versus rookie quarterback, but Golf, to me is also vulnerable

1142
01:06:11,840 --> 01:06:15,600
Speaker 1: in similar ways to Um. Excellent defensive coaching, and so

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01:06:15,680 --> 01:06:17,400
Speaker 1: I think this is a This is a get over

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01:06:17,440 --> 01:06:21,080
Speaker 1: the hump, proved people wrong game for Jared Goff, who

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01:06:21,240 --> 01:06:23,400
Speaker 1: people probably from a distance, could say this will be

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01:06:23,400 --> 01:06:26,120
Speaker 1: one where he'll hub trouble. Um. Let's see if if

1147
01:06:26,160 --> 01:06:28,440
Speaker 1: if that can be something different, if the storyline could

1148
01:06:28,440 --> 01:06:30,479
Speaker 1: be different. This is one of the few Super Bowl

1149
01:06:30,480 --> 01:06:32,600
Speaker 1: rematches where a lot of the characters are gone. But

1150
01:06:32,640 --> 01:06:35,520
Speaker 1: I think if you're Sean McVeigh, this matters a lot

1151
01:06:35,560 --> 01:06:39,960
Speaker 1: to you. Cam Newton has five touchdown passes this entire season.

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01:06:40,880 --> 01:06:43,400
Speaker 1: I mean that this is a good quarterback game because Newton,

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01:06:44,600 --> 01:06:46,880
Speaker 1: despite continuing to be good with the football, running the

1154
01:06:46,880 --> 01:06:49,920
Speaker 1: ball and finding the end zone that way, geez, what

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01:06:50,040 --> 01:06:51,920
Speaker 1: is he going to look like in this game against

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01:06:52,320 --> 01:06:56,560
Speaker 1: a Rams defense that is stellar? Um? That is that

1157
01:06:56,680 --> 01:06:59,720
Speaker 1: is a big, a big test for Newton who's struggled

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01:07:00,320 --> 01:07:03,280
Speaker 1: all season, Uh, and especially in the last month or

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01:07:03,280 --> 01:07:05,600
Speaker 1: so to move the ball through the air. And they're

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01:07:05,600 --> 01:07:08,760
Speaker 1: they're overmatched all the time though, right, I guess Jalen

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01:07:08,840 --> 01:07:13,320
Speaker 1: Ramsey gonna travel with Jacoby Meyers, right like? Um, like,

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01:07:13,800 --> 01:07:16,560
Speaker 1: so this this idea that there there there there's this

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Speaker 1: mismatch talent wise offense. It's true every week. Uh, it's

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01:07:20,640 --> 01:07:25,080
Speaker 1: it's gonna come specially Yeah, it's it's certainly the case

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01:07:25,160 --> 01:07:28,240
Speaker 1: this week. But what we've seen, Um, we saw the

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Speaker 1: Flores versus Jared Goff and Sean mcveigh's situation. Perhaps if

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Speaker 1: if you believe in such things, there could be a

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01:07:34,440 --> 01:07:38,920
Speaker 1: similar Belichick uh defensive performance even though they're missing most,

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Speaker 1: if not all, of those guys from that defense. They've

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01:07:41,640 --> 01:07:44,600
Speaker 1: played like that in the Super Bowl. I I'm gonna

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01:07:44,600 --> 01:07:47,280
Speaker 1: do you guys, I see a close game. Um, and

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Speaker 1: the Patriots are a little bit hot, but I don't

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Speaker 1: I don't really know how much mean we're how much

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01:07:52,160 --> 01:07:54,800
Speaker 1: meaning we're gonna be able to extrapolate from this from

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01:07:54,800 --> 01:07:59,240
Speaker 1: from either team, I think they're both kind of just

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01:07:59,560 --> 01:08:03,640
Speaker 1: mired in this middle and there's something missing. Squads right

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01:08:03,720 --> 01:08:06,040
Speaker 1: the way the Patriots are playing are insane. I mean,

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01:08:06,120 --> 01:08:08,920
Speaker 1: Camas career lowest for passing in their last two weeks,

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01:08:08,920 --> 01:08:11,880
Speaker 1: and it was two of their best games of the season.

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01:08:12,440 --> 01:08:16,640
Speaker 1: He has eleven rushing touchdowns. They are they are, they

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01:08:16,680 --> 01:08:19,240
Speaker 1: are a nineteen seventies team. But the defense is why

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01:08:19,240 --> 01:08:21,840
Speaker 1: I give them a chance. Because Adam Butler is playing

1183
01:08:21,840 --> 01:08:23,920
Speaker 1: great Chase win of his josh Cha like they they're

1184
01:08:23,920 --> 01:08:26,439
Speaker 1: coming together defensively, and they could ugly this one up.

1185
01:08:26,439 --> 01:08:30,840
Speaker 1: And and gun Chefski is gonna do something magical. I got,

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01:08:30,840 --> 01:08:33,000
Speaker 1: I got the Rams twenty to sixteen. What do you guys?

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01:08:33,840 --> 01:08:36,280
Speaker 1: It sounds about right. Maybe I'll steal that for the

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Speaker 1: old game picks golum there that score Patriots nineteen ramst Wow, right,

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Speaker 1: So there you go. Tune in Thursday and uh and

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Speaker 1: we'll have a recap on that to Shorty on that

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Speaker 1: as well. In addition to of course Mark and I

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Speaker 1: uh Handling Ravens Cowboys duty is uh wrapping up week thirteen,

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Speaker 1: Warrior willis Reid stuff right here. Uh and we will

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