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Speaker 1: a beautiful Green Bay, Wisconsin. This is interesting, right, I mean,

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Speaker 1: we're doing a lot of firsts here. Right. I'm the

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Speaker 1: first Division one men's hed basketball coach to have a

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Speaker 1: Nashal radio show, and this is the first time we've

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Speaker 1: ever done a show after we've won a game. Granted

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Speaker 1: we didn't win many games last year. Guys, Okay, so

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Speaker 1: there is that issue with it. We're like, wow, we

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Speaker 1: haven't done when you went up Dames last year to

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Speaker 1: do it. But we had a game today. It was

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Speaker 1: an education day where you know, has four thousand screaming

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Speaker 1: children in attendance. As enjoyable as that may sound. As

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Speaker 1: enjoyable as that may sound, we end up getting getting

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Speaker 1: the win, so it was good. Meanwhile, it's so It's

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Speaker 1: an interesting thing right where Jay Stu is texting me

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Speaker 1: story updates while the game is in progress. And thankfully

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Speaker 1: not like buzzing. But I do have the news of

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Speaker 1: the day and we'll get to it. And then the

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Speaker 1: news of the night is tonight lambeau Field Monday Night football,

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Speaker 1: Packers Eagles, big time game and what again at this

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Speaker 1: point in the season, could be forecasting for a playoff matchup,

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Speaker 1: which would be a playoff rematch, So a million different

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Speaker 1: little things to get to. Congrats to Dan Byer's Seattle

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Speaker 1: Seahawks with a dominating win yesterday. And congrats to Jay

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Speaker 1: Stu and my LA Chargers they get a big win

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Speaker 1: on Sunday Night football that we'll get to. But the

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Speaker 1: news of the day is Brian Dabole is out out

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Speaker 1: with the New York Football Giants. Day Ball was asked

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Speaker 1: yesterday after the game about his job security. Here was

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Speaker 2: Pretty worried about your job at too many?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm just focused on you know, these guys in

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Speaker 3: the locker room. You know they're tough losses, Dan, they

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Speaker 3: really are. Everybody puts so much into it. The coach

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Speaker 3: and it's painful when you have when you have these endings,

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Speaker 3: you know, you stick together and you know that's what

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Speaker 3: that's what you have to do.

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Speaker 1: Uh. Here's the statement from John Mara, the chairman and

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Speaker 1: chairman Steve Tish in a joint statement quote, we spoke

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Speaker 1: this morning about the direction of our franchise on the field.

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Speaker 1: We decided that this time, at this time, it's in

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Speaker 1: coaching musician. The past few seasons have been nothing short

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Speaker 1: of disappointing. We have not met our expectations for the franchise.

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Speaker 1: We understand the franestation of our fans in order to

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Speaker 1: deliver a significantly improved product. We appreciate coach day Ball

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Speaker 1: for his contributions to organization. We wish Coach day Ball

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Speaker 1: and his family the best in the future. Joe Shane,

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Speaker 1: who's their general manager, said, we feel like Joe has

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Speaker 1: assembled a good young nucleus of talent. We look forward

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Speaker 1: take full responsibility for those results. We look forward to

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Speaker 1: the kind of success the fans expect. I always love

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Speaker 1: when a general manager say, hey, we take full accountability

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Speaker 1: for it. So he's fired. H oh, sorry that that

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Speaker 1: was the owner statement on Joel Shane. So yeah. I mean, look,

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Speaker 1: interesting people's inability to process when they have had Cam Scattabo,

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Speaker 1: disagree with this move. And I understand that somebody says, well,

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Speaker 1: the NFL especially. I don't understand what this What does

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Speaker 1: it's fair, okay, But what were your expectations? Where are

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Speaker 1: You have a rookie quarterback, you've been just besieged by injuries.

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Speaker 4: I think that they considering the name Mike Kafka as

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Speaker 4: As he's knocked out of yesterday's game and Russell Wilson

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Speaker 4: there seems to be an enormous disconnect. But you can't

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Speaker 4: ignore the numbers of day bole. They just have won

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Speaker 4: eleven games since the first season he took over. They

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Speaker 1: But I think that I don't think there's any I

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Speaker 1: don't know there's any question that if Joel Shane still

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Speaker 1: my point continues to be and I get it. You

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Speaker 1: but you know this is not that different from what

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Speaker 1: you can make a change. I'm not saying you can't

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Speaker 1: make coaching changes. I don't understand the mid season coaching change.

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Speaker 1: I don't get that. And you could say, well, he's

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Speaker 1: had enough seasons, enough time, like Okay, what do we

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Speaker 1: a head coach. He's still just going to call the

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Speaker 4: What is interesting with Kafka though, is he has interviewed

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Speaker 4: it's not out of nowhere that he would take over

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Speaker 4: and maybe this could be the position. It's also funny

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Speaker 4: that it feels like it's the second coach that Russell

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Speaker 1: That was that was the next part I was getting

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Speaker 1: to was happen in Denver? Right, happened in Denver, and

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Speaker 1: and it happens here, And it's I mean, that's that's

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Speaker 1: And again, you're gonna experience this on any team you cover,

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Speaker 1: which is there are guys that are competent at their position,

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Speaker 4: There was a scenario in yesterday's game, and I know

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Speaker 4: Packer's played a night. I don't know if Giants Bears

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Speaker 5: Goal to go up ten.

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Speaker 4: Most teams probably would have gone for it in that situation,

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Speaker 5: It was a windy.

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Speaker 4: Fourteen unanswered and the Bear's leave with a win. So

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Speaker 4: we had Pam Oliver on our Sunday show yesterday. She

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Speaker 1: Yep. And that's the thing about Russell Wilson. And that's honestly,

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Speaker 1: I can't believe they haven't gone to Jameis Winston, you know,

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Speaker 1: there's an energy that he brings that you have to

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Speaker 1: a Debbie downer. Everybody rolls their eyes. Oh boy, here

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Speaker 4: And this is what the Giants did, Okay, after they

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Speaker 4: the ball on consecutive plays Doug second in first and

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Speaker 4: They just ran the ball up ten. Then the Bears

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Speaker 1: Because it's pretty obvious that he can't do it. And

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Speaker 1: it just is. I mean, I have nothing against the guy.

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Speaker 1: We've all been in this thing combined seventy five plus years, right.

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Speaker 6: This is the best of the Done Dot Leaf Show

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Speaker 6: on Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 1: What up but you? Dog gott Leaf Show, Fox Sports Radio,

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Speaker 1: iHeartRadio app. Welcome, Welcome, Welcome in. I hope you're having

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Speaker 1: a great day. The Doug gott Leap Show broadcast live

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Speaker 1: every single day. I'm in Green Bay there in Sherman Oaks, California.

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Speaker 1: We're just here, four guys who love sports. Been working

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Speaker 1: get to Buyer is a Seahawks fan, So you got

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Speaker 1: really tough loss as an Iowa Hawka fan. That's Saturday night,

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Speaker 1: preve you Monday night football. I am going to the

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Speaker 6: What did you love?

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Speaker 1: God? I love you?

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Speaker 5: And what did you hate?

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Speaker 2: These player Hays.

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Speaker 1: Dann Bayer, What do you got, buddy?

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Speaker 4: I do need to make this point because there was

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Speaker 5: That did not happen.

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Speaker 4: When I texted Jason what the forecast was going to be,

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Speaker 4: you were ready for the elements, Jason Stewart, Right, experience.

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Speaker 2: I like to experience what that place is known for.

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Speaker 1: Right.

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Speaker 2: I went to London for my only trip across overseas.

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Speaker 2: I went to London and it was sunny for four

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Speaker 2: So if I go to Green Bay, I want it

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Speaker 1: December twenty seventh. December twenty seventh.

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Speaker 5: Can't do it?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, because of Christmas.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, my cousin's actually coming out because he wants to

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Speaker 2: Let's do this the Chargers Texans on the twenty seventh.

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Speaker 2: Get four tickets for Dan and his cousin Jacob and me,

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Speaker 5: I don't worry about it. No, I don't.

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Speaker 2: Have Doug hit his contact up and we'll ride it

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Speaker 4: Okay, Tonight it's a Gold Package game as well, so

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Speaker 5: It just won't be as loud.

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Speaker 1: Hey, just kill an argument I had with a buddy

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Speaker 4: Because my family has relatives have the Green Package.

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Speaker 4: I think we skipped over Dan Well. I'll just say this.

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Speaker 4: He was absolutely magnificent, including adding on the touchdown in overtime,

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Speaker 2: I hate myself when it comes to these players, like

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Speaker 1: All right, Sam, okay, go ahead, you get your your

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Speaker 7: So Dan brought up Jonathan Taylor's incredible two hundred plus

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Speaker 7: yard performs there in Germany. I love I love broadcasts

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Speaker 7: listen to a Jonathan Taylor touchdown in German from two

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Speaker 2: It's a touch shown sex sy Ferny Colts.

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Speaker 7: How about how about how about the football Night in

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Speaker 8: Oh yeah, sounds a lot better when they do it, dozig.

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Speaker 7: And then actually here's uh, here's a very fun uh,

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Speaker 1: Oh, deception.

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Speaker 9: Deception is to follow on every born.

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Speaker 5: The Germans, So you think that's funny.

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Speaker 7: I also found an Illinois football in Illinois fighting a

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Speaker 1: Here we go, Joe, you.

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Speaker 2: Find Paul and one more.

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, let me.

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Speaker 7: I have no idea what they're saying. I have no

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Speaker 5: The Germans were having such a cool time. Was this

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Speaker 2: All right?

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Speaker 5: Thank you guys?

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Speaker 1: Do do did do? Jase do?

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Speaker 2: Let me left on the weekend, real fast, Just a

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Speaker 2: live tweet Marrow guy twenty eight? Did you really have

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Speaker 2: I will say this, There's only one reason I'm a

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Speaker 2: Chargers fan. Only one reason. It's my son Jacob. He's

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Speaker 2: So I love that Chargers win.

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Speaker 1: Jacob's happy, Charge's win and happy. Uh okay, Mine's pretty easy,

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Speaker 1: to be honest with you, That's something I love from

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Speaker 1: And if you watch that interaction, that was magnificent. During

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Speaker 4: Game, Ole Miss beat the Citadel forty nine to the

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Speaker 4: Council is an overall win, obviously a non conference game.

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Speaker 4: They had five first downs. Citadel did in the head

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Speaker 4: ball for thirty two minutes. The starting quarterback had stats

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Speaker 4: that look like he plays quarterback for Wisconsin. He was

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Speaker 4: three of six for twenty three yards. That's that's what

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Speaker 4: the Citadel. That's why you can take pictures with the

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Speaker 4: newly engaged when the Citadel comes to town and has

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Speaker 4: five first downs in the entire contest.

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Speaker 1: Okay, I'll give you another one. How about Wisconsin's win

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Speaker 1: against Wow Washington, Right, Luke Fickel, everybody thought dead man walking.

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Speaker 1: They decide, hey, we're going We're running it back for

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Speaker 1: one more year. He had four different players throw a

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Speaker 1: pass in the game, like they're just trying new quarterback,

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Speaker 1: new quarterback Carter Smith. I think Carter Smith, you know,

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Speaker 1: as a freshman they won a game with their leading

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Speaker 1: passer was three of twelve. They were six of eighteen

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Speaker 1: with forty eight yards throwing the football and one and

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Speaker 1: one in the old find a Way. Wisconsin found away

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Speaker 1: rewarded their coach, who rewarded the athletic department with with

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Speaker 1: giving him another year to try and run this thing back.

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Speaker 1: That was a hell of If you can win with

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Speaker 1: forty eight yards passing, I tip my captain.

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Speaker 4: Sean West is their punter. I don't know if he

458
00:25:08,840 --> 00:25:11,080
Speaker 4: became the first ever or first in a long time

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Speaker 4: to lead his team in rushing and in passing in

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Speaker 4: a gameless season. He had twenty the most that they

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Speaker 4: had on Saturday.

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Speaker 1: That's amazing. I love it. I love sports.

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Speaker 7: All right, let's get to what can I ask real quick?

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Speaker 7: Coach Fickle, he got like the vote of confidence. I

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Speaker 7: mean like they had to show some improvement. But he

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Speaker 7: think once he had that vote of confidence, he was like,

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Speaker 7: all right, let's just go win one because like if

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Speaker 7: they just if they just didn't win any games the

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Speaker 7: rest of the year, man, that's just gonna be hard

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Speaker 7: to start next year. But this is this definitely lights

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Speaker 7: a fire under their butts. A ranked win, yeah, ranked win,

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Speaker 7: A win period at home.

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Speaker 1: The fifth quarter, I'm sure was rocking in mad Town.

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Speaker 1: All right, let's get to what we hated from the weekend.

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Speaker 1: Our resident hater is Jason Stewart. What do you got? Jay?

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Speaker 2: Got an email yesterday. I think I'm on record saying

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Speaker 2: that I've been a YouTube TV subscriber since before it

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Speaker 2: was cool. I cut the court early, I think in

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Speaker 2: twenty eighteen, been a subscriber ever since. So this kind

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Speaker 2: of puts it in even a more harsh context. Hi, Jason,

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Speaker 2: We've been working in good faith and negotiat a deal

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Speaker 2: with Disney that pays them fairly for their content and

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Speaker 2: returns their programming to YouTube TV. We know it's been

484
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Speaker 2: disappointing to lose Disney content. We want to know how

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Speaker 2: deeply appreciative we are of your patients, and right of that,

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Speaker 2: we're offering you subscribers a twenty dollars credit. Twenty dollars credit. Now,

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00:26:38,960 --> 00:26:42,560
Speaker 2: now you could argue, like what is that? How do

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Speaker 2: they come to that number? Like what how do they

489
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Speaker 2: measure that twenty bucks is enough to keep customers happy

490
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Speaker 2: through this very frustrating time without insulting them. So you

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Speaker 2: could argue that point, But here's the real insulting point.

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Speaker 2: Over the next few days, you will receive a follow

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Speaker 2: up email with instructiontions on how to redeem your twenty

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Speaker 2: dollars credit. So, in other words, I'm gonna have to

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Speaker 2: do the work to get my credit. I don't get

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Speaker 2: ESPN or ABC or my Jeopardy, and you're gonna make

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Speaker 2: me do the work to give me a credit your Google,

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Speaker 2: you are worth trillions of dollars. I'm guessing as a

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Speaker 2: part of your business model, you are able to refund

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Speaker 2: twenty dollars without me going through an extra step put

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Speaker 2: it on the bill. This is insulting and for the

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Speaker 2: first time in my career as a YouTube TV subscriber,

503
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Speaker 2: I'm considering ending my relationship. We are not going to

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Speaker 2: get Monday night football again tonight. This is the first

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Speaker 2: time in the history of these negotiations, whether it's Comcast

506
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Speaker 2: or direct TV, where two Monday night football games have

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Speaker 2: been put in jeopardy. To me, this is a bridge

508
00:28:01,359 --> 00:28:05,480
Speaker 2: too far. It is a problem when two trillion dollar

509
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Speaker 2: mega corporations are squabbling at the inconvenience and the actually

510
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Speaker 2: the torture. I'm going to go that far use torture

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Speaker 2: of their consumers. It's not acceptable.

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Speaker 5: As hell, and I'm not trying to take this anymore.

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Speaker 1: Paid that to me and his man's money? Damn by

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00:28:29,280 --> 00:28:30,000
Speaker 1: what what?

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Speaker 2: No reaction to that? Well, I have to watch the

516
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Speaker 2: game here YouTube TV subscribers among the four of us reaction,

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Speaker 2: I will be watching the game tonight.

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Speaker 4: I'll immediately change the channel and I'll flip back direct

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Speaker 4: TV in the house.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's the only reason I have. The only reason

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Speaker 1: I have YouTube TV is red Zone and multiview. That's it,

522
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Speaker 1: and I'm good with it. I'm good with moving on

523
00:29:00,640 --> 00:29:03,800
Speaker 1: if that's if that's the thing, Like I don't, I'm

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Speaker 1: my problem with it. Jay stu Is, I actually see

525
00:29:07,520 --> 00:29:11,680
Speaker 1: the argument, right, actually see the argument on either side.

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Speaker 1: I don't blame me ESPN.

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Speaker 2: You're for the trillionaires, No, I just.

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Speaker 1: You're running a business and the rights cost a ton

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Speaker 1: of money, you know, for like the SEC and if

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Speaker 1: you have the SEC games like yeah, we're like, we're

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Speaker 1: gonna charge you our fees to carry our our to

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Speaker 1: carry our service. Like that's the deal, you know. A

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Speaker 1: part of me, I don't know the difference, how far

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Speaker 1: the part they are in money per sub I don't

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Speaker 1: know the details of that. I don't care. It's not

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Speaker 1: my business. I just want to see it on TV.

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Speaker 1: But I do understand this has happened with It's basically

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Speaker 1: happened with everybody. This is the first one that's happened

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Speaker 1: middle of the season. Comcast had it one year with somebody.

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Speaker 1: We've seen all these different characters.

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Speaker 2: No, so first time that two live NFL games have

542
00:29:57,280 --> 00:30:02,440
Speaker 2: been compromised. If you're for the trillionaires, that's one thing, but.

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Speaker 1: Not for the trillionaires. But like again, none of this

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Speaker 1: content is going to be free. That's it. I mean,

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Speaker 1: it's just not gonna be free. So I don't know what, like, Okay,

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Speaker 1: so what do you propose has to happen? You just

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Speaker 1: get them in a room and whatever wherever you are,

548
00:30:17,120 --> 00:30:18,600
Speaker 1: let's just meet halfway and do a deal.

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Speaker 2: I would say, at the very least as a stop gap.

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Speaker 2: There's three things that could be done. Because the NFL

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Speaker 2: is the behemoth that it is. It could tell ESPN

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Speaker 2: to put the game on ESPN Plus tonight.

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Speaker 1: I'm guessing contractually they can't.

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Speaker 2: No, they're the NFL. They could do whatever.

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Speaker 1: They can't a matter, there's certain place you can't put it.

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Speaker 2: Jason, when you have I guess, uh, circumstances that are extreme,

557
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Speaker 2: then you could take extreme measures to at the very

558
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Speaker 2: least optically tell your consumers that you care about them.

559
00:30:57,640 --> 00:31:02,080
Speaker 2: So between ESPN and all also the NFL, you would

560
00:31:02,080 --> 00:31:05,320
Speaker 2: think that something some alive branch could be extended to

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Speaker 2: the consumers.

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Speaker 4: So, and let me just quick interject here, Jason wants

563
00:31:10,040 --> 00:31:13,280
Speaker 4: the NFL to say ESPN put it on ESPN Plus,

564
00:31:13,840 --> 00:31:17,640
Speaker 4: which would weaken the argument for YouTube TV that has

565
00:31:17,800 --> 00:31:21,640
Speaker 4: a deal with the NFL for the Sunday ticket. So

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Speaker 4: so you want the NFL to go back on there,

567
00:31:24,440 --> 00:31:27,720
Speaker 4: basically to stab YouTube TV in the back, but help

568
00:31:27,960 --> 00:31:29,640
Speaker 4: ESPN out for the viewer's sake.

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Speaker 1: Yes, right, Ja, Jason, you're in fantasy world. You're in

570
00:31:36,360 --> 00:31:42,320
Speaker 1: absolute fantasyland. You're in fantasy land. Doesn't football No, it's again,

571
00:31:42,400 --> 00:31:44,360
Speaker 1: just give me my football. Like again, this is the

572
00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:49,120
Speaker 1: issue campaigning the picture perfectly like, either way you do it,

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Speaker 1: one of the two companies are going to be screwed

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Speaker 1: that you can't put it on ESPN Plus because that's

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Speaker 1: a violation of the contract, the contract you have with them.

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00:31:56,760 --> 00:31:58,520
Speaker 1: But also it's a violation of the contracts you have

577
00:31:58,760 --> 00:32:02,760
Speaker 1: when Netflix has a specific contract with NBC, with CBS,

578
00:32:04,320 --> 00:32:07,520
Speaker 1: and with Fox. You can only place it where you

579
00:32:07,560 --> 00:32:12,240
Speaker 1: have paid to place it. Right, So that's the reality

580
00:32:12,360 --> 00:32:15,239
Speaker 1: of the deal. If anything, the NFL wins on this

581
00:32:15,280 --> 00:32:17,560
Speaker 1: thing because people are gonna be so upset they're gonna

582
00:32:17,560 --> 00:32:19,400
Speaker 1: make their voices short. This, by the way, is no

583
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Speaker 1: different than when MTV first came to be Right, do

584
00:32:22,480 --> 00:32:25,600
Speaker 1: you remember MTV? Call your cable provider and tell them

585
00:32:25,840 --> 00:32:29,360
Speaker 1: I want my MTV. Right used to have to and

586
00:32:29,400 --> 00:32:32,000
Speaker 1: you're like, why doesn't everybody have MTV? Well, because in

587
00:32:32,080 --> 00:32:34,600
Speaker 1: order to carry it, you gotta pay for it. Because

588
00:32:34,600 --> 00:32:36,480
Speaker 1: they got to pay for all these videos. It's the

589
00:32:36,480 --> 00:32:42,360
Speaker 1: same thing. It's prohibitively expensive to broadcast the NFL. Hey now,

590
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Speaker 1: of that NFL highlights, I don't know the number, now,

591
00:32:45,200 --> 00:32:47,280
Speaker 1: did you guys know? It's two hundred fifty thousand dollars

592
00:32:47,480 --> 00:32:51,640
Speaker 1: per minute to do an NFL highlight. Right. That's why,

593
00:32:51,720 --> 00:32:54,800
Speaker 1: like when you see all these all these teams like

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Speaker 1: like Fox, for example, Fox Sports one, they won't run

595
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Speaker 1: NFL b role because b roll that's the video of

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Speaker 1: highlights whatever. It costs two hundred and fifty thousand dollars

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00:33:04,920 --> 00:33:07,640
Speaker 1: a minute, and it's also a lot like cell phone

598
00:33:07,680 --> 00:33:09,600
Speaker 1: minutes back when we were kit, back when we were

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00:33:09,640 --> 00:33:11,880
Speaker 1: like in college, get your first cell phone, You're like, ah,

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Speaker 1: one hundred minutes or thousand minutes. I'm never going over

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Speaker 1: any second is a minute. So my point is it's

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Speaker 1: ridiculously expensive to broadcast the NFL. ESPN knows that, so

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Speaker 1: they're not gonna go like, hey, YouTube watch pay less

604
00:33:25,400 --> 00:33:27,720
Speaker 1: than everybody else is paying for our content. No big deal,

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Speaker 1: you got ten million customers. You can't do it again.

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Speaker 1: I'm not saying there's not room for negotiation and ways

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Speaker 1: to smooth it over, and it should be done by now.

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Speaker 1: But I also can tell you that like you're you're

609
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Speaker 1: you're talking in absolute fantasy terms which will never happen

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Speaker 1: just because it feels like it should so fans can

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Speaker 1: see it. That's not the reality of multi billion dollar businesses.

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Speaker 2: No, I mean, you guys are for the trillionaires. And

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Speaker 2: no wonder my dom got nomined.

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Speaker 4: I did not take a side, right, I did not

615
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Speaker 4: take a side of socialist is run in New York City.

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Speaker 1: To again again, there's a there's a perfect example, I

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Speaker 1: mean socialism argument. Okay, so so so China stop buying

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Speaker 1: soy so China stop buying soybeans. Stop buying soybeans because

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Speaker 1: of the tariffs from the United States. Right, So all

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Speaker 1: these farmers had all these soybeans. So what are we

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Speaker 1: gonna do. We're gonna bail out the farmers because that's

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Speaker 1: what we do. We have farm aide and we pay

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Speaker 1: people to not produce milk, to not produce things. And

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Speaker 1: you're like, well, forget about socialism. Okay, you're gonna let

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Speaker 1: all these farmers completely starve because we have this tariff thing. No,

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Speaker 1: you gotta deal with reality, and the reality is that

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Speaker 1: this is a business. This is the business that we've chosen. Okay.

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Speaker 1: And ESPN has done this with the ESPNU, with the

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Speaker 1: ESPN News, with the ESPN two, and they do with

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Speaker 1: the ESPN Plus. Now they're doing Monday Night Football. They

631
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Speaker 1: have paid a huge sum of money for Monday Night Football.

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Speaker 1: If you want to broadcast it, you gotta pay the fee.

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Speaker 1: You gotta pay the proper increase. If you don't, then

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Speaker 1: we're gonna have a problem. And what's what, it's a

635
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Speaker 1: game of chicken. What's gonna happen? First, A people gonna

636
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Speaker 1: get upset with the ESPN. No, what they're gonna do is,

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Speaker 1: they'll pull off of YouTube and they'll move on to

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Speaker 1: a service that does carry you.

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Speaker 2: What you're gonna go back to cable? I would, I

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00:35:01,320 --> 00:35:02,720
Speaker 2: would gladly go after cable.

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Speaker 1: I would gladly go back to cable. Really, I like

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Speaker 1: the Cable bundle. Cable Bundle had I had no problem.

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Speaker 2: Who's going backwards? In their in their way going backwards.

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Speaker 1: If I go to Spectrum, wait home. If I go

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00:35:12,200 --> 00:35:14,720
Speaker 1: to Spectrum, I get Lakers games, I get Dodger games,

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Speaker 1: and I get Monday Night football, I don't have to

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00:35:16,480 --> 00:35:18,600
Speaker 1: put up with any of the nonsense. Only then I

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Speaker 1: don't get is, I don't get multi view. All right?

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Speaker 3: Uh?

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Speaker 1: Anybody else got anything to hit it? This weekend?

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Speaker 2: Yes? Who first?

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Speaker 1: Here? Sam? Go ahead?

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Speaker 7: All right, I'll be quick. Uh Saturday, you all know it.

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Speaker 7: Hawkeye heartbreak. If you were a true freshman starting for

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Speaker 7: Iowa in twenty twenty two, you still have not beaten

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Speaker 7: a ranked team. With the Hawkeyes, they are oh and

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Speaker 7: twelve since they started losing the ranked teams in twenty

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Speaker 7: twenty one. They beat three ranked teams to start the

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Speaker 7: season since then oh and twelve, and some of them

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Speaker 7: are by excruciatingly heartbreaking manners of defeat Like Saturday, I

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Speaker 7: just I don't know, I don't have to do this

662
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Speaker 7: fell kind of like Ioways lost in the Big Ten

663
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Speaker 7: Championship game ten years ago. It hurt that much where

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Speaker 7: it's like left me sideways even into the next day. Uh,

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Speaker 7: and just thinking about right now just makes me kind

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Speaker 7: of sad. My hate, that's my hate. As you have

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Speaker 7: an opportunity on Saturday, hold on.

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Speaker 1: J Mack from Norman tweets me tell j Stew thank you.

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Speaker 1: As a YouTube TV subscriber, I agree with everything he said.

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00:36:23,680 --> 00:36:26,520
Speaker 1: Both companies are blind to their subscribers, and occurring at

671
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Speaker 1: the same time as the government shutdown is even more sad.

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Speaker 1: Government shutdown is the perfect parallel. You're like, I just

673
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Speaker 1: opened the government all I see. If you're a Democrat,

674
00:36:33,360 --> 00:36:35,960
Speaker 1: like you want all these people to lose all their aid, no,

675
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Speaker 1: because your constituents won't want that. If you're a Republican,

676
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Speaker 1: you're scared of doing against anything Potus says because then

677
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Speaker 1: he's gonna stick his dogs on you. Right. So again,

678
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Speaker 1: sounds really easy when we're not involved that Twitter. That's

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Speaker 1: my boy, J mac.

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Speaker 2: Sojy Mack and I are not for trillion nerves. And

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Speaker 2: you guys are It's August. You guys already drew the

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Speaker 2: one on the sound I got.

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Speaker 4: I got a text of j Mack from the Beach Cities.

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Speaker 4: He says, I got a rec League game tonight, So

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Speaker 4: I will be recording the game on my DVR.

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Speaker 1: Will be recording his rec league game on dv app

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Speaker 1: and then.

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Speaker 5: Broadcasting highlights to come after.

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Speaker 1: You know what I need? I need. I need to

690
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Speaker 1: know what he's running offensively, so it helps it helps us. Yes,

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Speaker 1: that that that's what That's what I need. That is

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Speaker 1: love and hey.

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Speaker 6: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in

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Speaker 6: the nation. Catch all of our shows at foxsports Radio

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Speaker 6: dot com and within the iHeartRadio app.

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Speaker 1: Doug Gottlieb Show Fox Sports Radio, Dan, Dan, I need

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Speaker 1: you'd ask me a question. What's the appropriate question you

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Speaker 1: should ask everybody who's in Green Bay about tonight?

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Speaker 5: How cold is it going to be?

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Speaker 1: Oh? Yeah, that's one question. It's gonna be called really cold.

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Speaker 1: Next question, kickoff about twenty nine degrees.

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Speaker 5: In college Tuobs, Green Bay topped RiPP In eighty three

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Speaker 5: sixty three.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah they did, Yeah they did.

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Speaker 5: Is that a win because we were I didn't think

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Speaker 5: it was.

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Speaker 4: And Sam says, because was it an exhibition or is

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Speaker 4: it because they're D three?

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Speaker 1: But it's still anybody. Everybody in our league plays D

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Speaker 1: three teams.

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Speaker 4: I'm not saying that that you're alone in that. But

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Speaker 4: there were times when I remember, you know, Wisconsin would

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Speaker 4: play like hey u w Platfills coming to town to

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Speaker 4: open the season.

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Speaker 5: So I wasn't sure if.

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Speaker 1: That was that was that and that was a game

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Speaker 1: as well. The first two. So the first two were exhibitions.

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Speaker 1: We played Bradley, we lost, an exhibition. We played Saint

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Speaker 1: Norbert also a Division three played badly an exhibition. Once

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Speaker 1: you start playing games, unless it's unless it's signified as

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Speaker 1: an exhibition, it is an official game.

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Speaker 4: Okay, So does Rippan count the loss because ESPN didn't

723
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Speaker 4: have their skin, their record on their their their low.

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Speaker 1: They they want to know another one in one, so well,

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Speaker 1: we will definitely take it. They will take it, and

726
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Speaker 1: as as many of my friends and coaching, because last

727
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Speaker 1: year I was like, we're not playing Division three, so

728
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Speaker 1: we played one Division two. We had you know, we

729
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Speaker 1: had injuries and we get popped and all my coaching

730
00:39:13,719 --> 00:39:16,759
Speaker 1: buddies like, dude, play four of them our league only,

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Speaker 1: lets you play two. They're like, nobody cares. Just win games.

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Speaker 1: It's all anybody cares about. I mean, that's the difference

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Speaker 1: last year, and we won four games with their four

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Speaker 1: Division one games. There's plenty of other teams that won

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Speaker 1: six or seven, but they won like four D three games. Sure,

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Speaker 1: so we don't have to give it back. Now, it's

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Speaker 1: dog Gotlieb Show here on Fox Sports Radio. They played

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Speaker 1: really well. They shot the hell out of the basketball.

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Speaker 1: Let's welcome in Tom to LESCo, who, of course the

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Speaker 1: former gentlemenager of the Chargers and their eight is. I

741
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Speaker 1: got a bunch of things to get to first, let

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Speaker 1: me get your reaction, Brian Dable. So again you have

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Speaker 1: and I haven't talked about this soft air, but I

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Speaker 1: do want to ask you. Guys went to the same

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Speaker 1: high school, right, but you were a senior, he was

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Speaker 1: a freshman in Buffalo.

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Speaker 10: Yes.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, So when when you made your last coaching hire,

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Speaker 1: there's a lot of people like, well, they're boys, so

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Speaker 1: you're gonna hire him. Gimme you interviewed him. What are

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Speaker 1: your thoughts on, Brian Dable? The coach.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, and I first of all, I don't care what

753
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Speaker 10: Dan bears. The congrats on the win this morning, so

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Speaker 10: take it and move on.

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Speaker 1: Okay.

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Speaker 10: So yeah, so Brian Dable, Yeah, I know Brian since

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Speaker 10: I was in high school, good friends with him. So

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Speaker 10: but you know, this is a business. So you're looking

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Speaker 10: at the body of work, and Brian had a great

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Speaker 10: body of work. He was a coordinator multiple times, kind

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Speaker 10: of moving up the chain, worked for some great people Belichick,

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Speaker 10: mcstaban among others, and he had a really good feel

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Speaker 10: for the overall how he wanted to build a football team.

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Speaker 10: Now we went in a different direction, but it was

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Speaker 10: nothing against Brian. Brian did us fanning in the interview

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Speaker 10: process and had a great body of work and he

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Speaker 10: got the Giants job. And you know, look, the head

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Speaker 10: coach is responsible for the final product. And I'm not

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Speaker 10: a big fan of interim head coaches, but as you

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Speaker 10: know Doug Pro Sports and probably the college sports at

771
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Speaker 10: this point, like there's that pound of flesh mentality that

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Speaker 10: that you know, somebody has to go, you know, because

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Speaker 10: the team under performed, certainly on defense, offensively, there's a

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Speaker 10: lot of reasons for that, but certainly the ambunder performed

775
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Speaker 10: on defense.

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Speaker 1: So Doug Gottlieb Show here on Fox Sports Radio, what

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Speaker 1: about the timing of it? Right like they're winning the game, Uh,

778
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Speaker 1: Dark goes down, Russell Wilson comes in, they lose the

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Speaker 1: game late, he's had Scataboo gets hurt. Now Dark gets

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Speaker 1: in the in concussion protocol and they lose the game.

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Speaker 1: You know, we're not We're we're just past the midway point.

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Speaker 1: What are your thoughts on the logic behind the timing

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Speaker 1: of making a change?

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Speaker 10: Now, I'm not a big fan of it, and this

785
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Speaker 10: is not something the Giants do very often, so that

786
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Speaker 10: that may just tell you behind the scenes that just

787
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Speaker 10: really wasn't going very well at all, because they're a

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Speaker 10: very patient group. They're a professional group. But certainly this

789
00:41:50,719 --> 00:41:52,840
Speaker 10: was not done to try and you know, rally the

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Speaker 10: troops for this year that this year is essentially over

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Speaker 10: with and the success rate of interim head coach is

792
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Speaker 10: not very good anyway. But it does give them, it

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Speaker 10: does give them a chance to start working on their

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Speaker 10: process of the next set coach as far as research,

795
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Speaker 10: talking to people, and it gives them a chance to

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Speaker 10: do it without doing it behind Brian Gaebles back, which

797
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Speaker 10: nobody would want to see that some professional way to

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Speaker 10: do it. So it gives them more time. Now they

799
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Speaker 10: can't talk with anybody obviously unless someone is out of

800
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Speaker 10: work like at Mike McCarthy or somebody like that, but

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Speaker 10: it gives them a chance to really start diving into

802
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Speaker 10: their homework on We's going to be on their interview

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Speaker 10: list as soon as the season is over.

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Speaker 1: Stut Gottlieb show here on Fox Supports Radio. Tom Tlasco

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Speaker 1: is our guests. He's former general manager both the Chargers

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Speaker 1: and for last year the Raiders. Chargers get to win

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Speaker 1: over the Steelers. You and I have discussed these two

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Speaker 1: teams separately before. Was last night about the Chargers or

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Speaker 1: about excuse me the Steelers? Has last night about the

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Speaker 1: Chargers or the Steelers?

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Speaker 10: Good question. It's usually always it got the a combination

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Speaker 10: of both. And that's I think what you saw last

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Speaker 10: night just between the Chargers defense. It's really it had

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Speaker 10: some off weeks recently, but they really picked it up

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Speaker 10: last night. And if you can get the Steelers in

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Speaker 10: a two score game where the Chargers are up by

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Speaker 10: two scores, and if you can force Pittsburgh to now

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Speaker 10: it's going to have to be a straight dropback the

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Speaker 10: majority of the rest of the game. That's where they're

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Speaker 10: going to struggle. They just don't have the pass protection

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Speaker 10: up front, but just not built for that. They're more

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Speaker 10: built for run the ball, play action, moved the pocket,

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Speaker 10: and obviously at this point Aaron Rodgers, he does not

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Speaker 10: have the capability that he had in the past. We

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Speaker 10: saw it last year at the Jets. We saw we

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Speaker 10: saw some games like this last year at the Jets,

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Speaker 10: so we shouldn't be overly surprised that that would happened

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Speaker 10: last night. But the Chargers didn't blitz a lot. They

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Speaker 10: were able to get pressure with four because they saw

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Speaker 10: some weaknesses on the edges and the quarterback really just

831
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Speaker 10: couldn't couldn't get movement inside the pocket. And then there

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Speaker 10: wasn't a whole lot of people a throat to They

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Speaker 10: took Metcalf away. Janney Smith has had a really good year,

834
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Speaker 10: but they couldn't get him going. And other than that,

835
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Speaker 10: there's nowhere to go with the football and you're just

836
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Speaker 10: not going to run it as much when you're down

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Speaker 10: by two scores. So that was just you know, a

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Speaker 10: combination of the Chargers defense, which played outstanding last year.

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Speaker 10: It's been a little up and down this year. But

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Speaker 10: we saw last night and the Charge's defense is what

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Speaker 10: we saw in the past. They can really shut people

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Speaker 10: down both on the pass when they get going.

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Speaker 1: Man Herbert's good. I mean with no offensive line. I mean,

844
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Speaker 1: you just got backups all over and he's still outstanding.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I mean that's.

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Speaker 10: Why you pay them. Yep, that's why you pay these

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Speaker 10: guys the money you pay them, because as you get

848
00:44:16,600 --> 00:44:19,319
Speaker 10: injuries or people are not performing, they have to raise

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Speaker 10: the level of everybody else.

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Speaker 1: And he did that last night, no no question, no

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Speaker 1: question about it. Doug Gottlieb Show, Fox Sports traded Tom

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Speaker 1: Telesco's Ander I guess explain for me the Buffalo Bills.

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Speaker 10: They're just going to have to get in the playoffs.

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Speaker 10: That's that's gonna be the goal right now. When the

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Speaker 10: year started, they had a ton of injuries that they're

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Speaker 10: still working through that. There hasn't been a big consistency

857
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Speaker 10: level on either side of the ball on defense, And

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Speaker 10: I talked about this this summer that you know they're

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Speaker 10: they're run defense. I love their linebackers, they're fast, they're rangy,

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Speaker 10: but they're on the smaller side, and when teams line

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Speaker 10: up and run the ball hard at them, you know

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Speaker 10: your weaknesses show up. You saw that yesterday, had a

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Speaker 10: lot miss tackles from the middle of the defense to

864
00:45:03,160 --> 00:45:06,600
Speaker 10: the running game. They're on defense struggle offensively. I know

865
00:45:06,640 --> 00:45:09,000
Speaker 10: they don't have a number one receiver, but it hasn't

866
00:45:09,040 --> 00:45:11,520
Speaker 10: been a bit much of an issue because Josh Allen

867
00:45:11,560 --> 00:45:14,640
Speaker 10: just spreads the ball around to everybody. Now, Dalton Kinkaid

868
00:45:14,719 --> 00:45:17,440
Speaker 10: being out with the hamstring and I doubt he'd be

869
00:45:17,440 --> 00:45:19,160
Speaker 10: ready to play this week just the way he came

870
00:45:19,200 --> 00:45:21,320
Speaker 10: off the field. That looks like a multi week injury.

871
00:45:22,400 --> 00:45:25,080
Speaker 10: He was one of their big playmakers, and that's going

872
00:45:25,120 --> 00:45:26,799
Speaker 10: to hurt them. It's going to hurt their offense. They're

873
00:45:26,880 --> 00:45:29,719
Speaker 10: actually get cooked going a lot more, but they got

874
00:45:29,800 --> 00:45:31,879
Speaker 10: to survive a little bit of the injury hits right now.

875
00:45:32,480 --> 00:45:35,240
Speaker 10: I'm not if you live in Buffalo right now, you're

876
00:45:35,560 --> 00:45:37,719
Speaker 10: hugely concerned. If you're on the outside looking him like

877
00:45:37,760 --> 00:45:39,480
Speaker 10: I am a little bit more measured with it. I

878
00:45:39,520 --> 00:45:42,319
Speaker 10: think they're going to be okay, but they gotta get

879
00:45:42,320 --> 00:45:44,320
Speaker 10: the defense fix a little bit here, and Josh Allen

880
00:45:44,320 --> 00:45:46,920
Speaker 10: can still make Josh Allen type plays, But at this

881
00:45:46,960 --> 00:45:48,839
Speaker 10: point they're just kind of limping into the second half

882
00:45:48,840 --> 00:45:50,600
Speaker 10: of the season. You'd like to see better football, and

883
00:45:50,600 --> 00:45:52,400
Speaker 10: I think we'll see it from them moving forward.

884
00:45:52,760 --> 00:45:54,359
Speaker 1: What is it that makes Rabel so good?

885
00:45:57,200 --> 00:45:59,879
Speaker 10: How they put this team together as fast as they

886
00:45:59,880 --> 00:46:03,400
Speaker 10: have is amazing. Between Lake Grabel and Elliott Wolf, they

887
00:46:03,520 --> 00:46:05,919
Speaker 10: essentially bought a brand new defense and free agency which

888
00:46:06,000 --> 00:46:09,440
Speaker 10: rarely ever works, but it does work if your evaluations

889
00:46:09,440 --> 00:46:11,800
Speaker 10: are right. You spend the right money and the right players,

890
00:46:11,800 --> 00:46:14,759
Speaker 10: and they've got eight starters on defense that were bought

891
00:46:14,760 --> 00:46:17,480
Speaker 10: in free agency, and the defense is playing on point

892
00:46:17,560 --> 00:46:21,000
Speaker 10: physical a lot of that Mike Brabil and then offensively,

893
00:46:21,680 --> 00:46:23,440
Speaker 10: you know, Drake May has just taken off. And I

894
00:46:23,480 --> 00:46:26,279
Speaker 10: think the combination of him and Josh McDaniel's is just

895
00:46:27,239 --> 00:46:29,479
Speaker 10: a combination made in heaven. It really is. They both

896
00:46:29,920 --> 00:46:33,400
Speaker 10: both love football, both both have high levels of football intelligence,

897
00:46:34,080 --> 00:46:36,279
Speaker 10: and Drake May is just he's and then he add

898
00:46:36,360 --> 00:46:39,600
Speaker 10: in is you know, he's got good size, athletic, he's tough,

899
00:46:39,680 --> 00:46:42,480
Speaker 10: he's accurate. The Bucks brought a lot of pressure yesterday

900
00:46:42,560 --> 00:46:44,720
Speaker 10: like they do against everybody, and a lot of quarterbacks

901
00:46:44,719 --> 00:46:47,239
Speaker 10: struggle against it, and Drake May did not, and Drake

902
00:46:47,239 --> 00:46:50,080
Speaker 10: May's doing this without even a full complement of skill players.

903
00:46:50,120 --> 00:46:51,479
Speaker 10: You know, I thought they were still a year away

904
00:46:51,480 --> 00:46:53,719
Speaker 10: from really competing, and I was completely wrong going into

905
00:46:53,719 --> 00:46:57,040
Speaker 10: the season. You see them play now. So they got

906
00:46:57,040 --> 00:46:59,920
Speaker 10: the quarterback, Their offensive line is hugely improved. They got

907
00:47:00,200 --> 00:47:02,160
Speaker 10: Rookie's playing right now in the offensive line, which is

908
00:47:02,160 --> 00:47:04,480
Speaker 10: a huge weakness last year, has been a strength so

909
00:47:04,560 --> 00:47:07,320
Speaker 10: far this year. So and you know this is this

910
00:47:07,400 --> 00:47:10,080
Speaker 10: is Mike Rabels in front of the team, and it's, uh,

911
00:47:10,120 --> 00:47:11,680
Speaker 10: this is why some of these other coaches get let

912
00:47:11,760 --> 00:47:13,480
Speaker 10: go because you see a team like the Patriots that

913
00:47:13,560 --> 00:47:16,480
Speaker 10: bring a new head, coach, new culture. They made a

914
00:47:16,520 --> 00:47:18,560
Speaker 10: lot of changes and they've hit it and they're eight

915
00:47:18,600 --> 00:47:19,319
Speaker 10: and two right now.

916
00:47:21,360 --> 00:47:22,880
Speaker 1: I don't know if you watched, you know, you and

917
00:47:22,880 --> 00:47:25,359
Speaker 1: I talk about how much you watch college games even now,

918
00:47:25,680 --> 00:47:29,960
Speaker 1: even still. Fernando Mendoza was okay against Penn State. They

919
00:47:30,080 --> 00:47:33,759
Speaker 1: kind of they struggled, but the the toe tap by

920
00:47:33,840 --> 00:47:37,760
Speaker 1: Omar Cooper Junior was incredible and Mendoza down the stretch

921
00:47:38,000 --> 00:47:40,760
Speaker 1: was really really good. So was Dante More of Oregon.

922
00:47:40,840 --> 00:47:42,480
Speaker 1: Right he made a couple through a couple of dimes

923
00:47:42,520 --> 00:47:46,520
Speaker 1: there down the stretch when what's the reality to evaluation?

924
00:47:46,880 --> 00:47:50,480
Speaker 1: How do you evaluate and cut out the noise of oh,

925
00:47:50,600 --> 00:47:52,759
Speaker 1: what he did in college in this clutch throw or

926
00:47:52,800 --> 00:47:55,719
Speaker 1: these numbers when it doesn't necessarily tell the story of

927
00:47:55,760 --> 00:47:57,560
Speaker 1: what will translate in the NFL.

928
00:47:58,440 --> 00:48:00,839
Speaker 10: Yeah, it's definitely not a week that we look at

929
00:48:00,880 --> 00:48:03,719
Speaker 10: players like a stock market stock going up, stock going down.

930
00:48:03,800 --> 00:48:05,360
Speaker 10: It's just not how it works. You're taking in the

931
00:48:05,440 --> 00:48:07,439
Speaker 10: full body work where there's a year or two years

932
00:48:07,560 --> 00:48:10,480
Speaker 10: or three years, and you put it all together and look,

933
00:48:10,840 --> 00:48:12,640
Speaker 10: there are gonna be years where there's not a first

934
00:48:12,719 --> 00:48:14,879
Speaker 10: round quarterback. It doesn't mean every single year there's gonna

935
00:48:14,880 --> 00:48:17,279
Speaker 10: be one, two and three first quarterback. They're going the

936
00:48:17,280 --> 00:48:18,799
Speaker 10: first round. They aren't good enough to go in the

937
00:48:18,800 --> 00:48:21,960
Speaker 10: first round. I haven't studied these players yet to know

938
00:48:22,760 --> 00:48:24,640
Speaker 10: that they do have some skills that you like, but

939
00:48:24,680 --> 00:48:27,799
Speaker 10: there's no guarantee their first round quarterback. So I actually

940
00:48:27,840 --> 00:48:30,319
Speaker 10: remember last year or two years at this time, like

941
00:48:30,760 --> 00:48:33,680
Speaker 10: JJ McCarthy, bon Nicks, even Pennix, nobody was talking about

942
00:48:33,680 --> 00:48:36,160
Speaker 10: those guys being first round quarterback. But after the whole

943
00:48:36,320 --> 00:48:38,080
Speaker 10: process went through, they all end up going in the

944
00:48:38,120 --> 00:48:40,480
Speaker 10: first round. So there's still a lot of work to

945
00:48:40,520 --> 00:48:44,240
Speaker 10: be done. Both those players really show some interesting skills.

946
00:48:44,840 --> 00:48:47,840
Speaker 10: Mendez are going back to Cali, he was this is

947
00:48:47,880 --> 00:48:50,319
Speaker 10: just TV watching would kind of flash like, hey, who

948
00:48:50,400 --> 00:48:53,080
Speaker 10: is this kid? And do some research on them. Dante

949
00:48:53,120 --> 00:48:56,279
Speaker 10: Moore at UCLA, you know, probably wasn't ready for prime

950
00:48:56,320 --> 00:48:58,520
Speaker 10: time yet he was out there as a true freshman

951
00:48:59,120 --> 00:49:01,080
Speaker 10: and you know, had his ups and downs, end up

952
00:49:01,080 --> 00:49:03,440
Speaker 10: losing the job halfway through the year, but he had

953
00:49:03,480 --> 00:49:05,359
Speaker 10: some real skills and you can see in that game. Now,

954
00:49:05,480 --> 00:49:07,640
Speaker 10: are is he ready to play NFL football and to

955
00:49:07,640 --> 00:49:11,200
Speaker 10: be a starter week one? Probably not, but there's still

956
00:49:11,200 --> 00:49:12,480
Speaker 10: a lot of work to be done as you look

957
00:49:12,480 --> 00:49:14,120
Speaker 10: at the whole body worked for their career.

958
00:49:15,320 --> 00:49:19,759
Speaker 1: Uh what what what's the story with Calibury? Like, what's

959
00:49:19,760 --> 00:49:21,600
Speaker 1: the real story? I know he's hurt, but even if

960
00:49:21,640 --> 00:49:24,719
Speaker 1: he wasn't hurt, he wouldn't be starting in Arizona. They

961
00:49:24,719 --> 00:49:28,760
Speaker 1: gave him a big contracts. What's the real story with Calabary?

962
00:49:30,920 --> 00:49:33,160
Speaker 10: I'm not so sure that you know, I wouldn't be

963
00:49:33,160 --> 00:49:35,600
Speaker 10: ready to be pushing the job that Jacoby Brissett already.

964
00:49:35,640 --> 00:49:37,680
Speaker 10: I mean, Jacoby's been in the league a long time.

965
00:49:37,719 --> 00:49:40,719
Speaker 10: It's been with six or seven teams. He's been a

966
00:49:40,719 --> 00:49:43,400
Speaker 10: full time starter once or twice. And like I like

967
00:49:43,480 --> 00:49:45,719
Speaker 10: Jacoby Brissett a lot. He doesn't turn the ball over

968
00:49:45,760 --> 00:49:49,320
Speaker 10: in terms of interceptions, but he's not real mobile and

969
00:49:49,360 --> 00:49:52,000
Speaker 10: he's never really been a long time full time starter.

970
00:49:53,000 --> 00:49:55,560
Speaker 10: Kyler Murray is still the most talented of the two quarterbacks.

971
00:49:56,040 --> 00:49:58,480
Speaker 10: Is there a consistency level there? It just hasn't quite

972
00:49:58,600 --> 00:50:01,120
Speaker 10: been there. I can tell you from being an opponent.

973
00:50:01,360 --> 00:50:03,560
Speaker 10: He's really hard to play against because you just never

974
00:50:03,640 --> 00:50:05,719
Speaker 10: know where he's going to be in the pocket. You

975
00:50:05,800 --> 00:50:08,000
Speaker 10: always have to be able to defend his run game.

976
00:50:08,080 --> 00:50:10,080
Speaker 10: He's got a big time arm, you know for a

977
00:50:10,120 --> 00:50:12,920
Speaker 10: smaller quarterback. But I understand on the offensive side of

978
00:50:12,920 --> 00:50:16,000
Speaker 10: the ball that poses some problems too that you know,

979
00:50:16,080 --> 00:50:17,960
Speaker 10: a lot of it is just, you know, just natural

980
00:50:18,040 --> 00:50:21,440
Speaker 10: playmaking ability, maybe not so much in structure. So the

981
00:50:21,520 --> 00:50:23,160
Speaker 10: biggest thing is is, you know, the head coach and

982
00:50:23,239 --> 00:50:25,720
Speaker 10: GM weren't there when he was drafted, and there's certainly

983
00:50:25,719 --> 00:50:28,799
Speaker 10: an investment level in different players. I still think he's

984
00:50:28,800 --> 00:50:31,680
Speaker 10: extremely talented. I'm not ready to give up on him yet,

985
00:50:31,680 --> 00:50:35,560
Speaker 10: but obviously there you know, it could go a different direction.

986
00:50:35,680 --> 00:50:38,040
Speaker 10: But to me, if they're both healthy right now, I

987
00:50:38,040 --> 00:50:41,080
Speaker 10: think Kyler Murray, Kyler Murray is still their starting quarterback.

988
00:50:41,400 --> 00:50:43,040
Speaker 10: I don't know if they agree with me on that though.

989
00:50:42,920 --> 00:50:44,440
Speaker 1: No, I listen, I agree with you, but they have

990
00:50:44,480 --> 00:50:47,400
Speaker 1: said that's not the case. So there has to be

991
00:50:47,440 --> 00:50:51,120
Speaker 1: something else there, right because on I'm pure talent playmaking.

992
00:50:51,200 --> 00:50:53,879
Speaker 1: It's it's not really that close. And again, like you said,

993
00:50:54,280 --> 00:50:57,360
Speaker 1: we know who Jacoby Brissett is, forget the fumbles yesterday,

994
00:50:58,080 --> 00:51:00,800
Speaker 1: Like he's a really he's a great dude, really good backup.

995
00:51:00,880 --> 00:51:03,680
Speaker 1: He's not Kyler Murray, who, as you know, talent wise,

996
00:51:04,280 --> 00:51:05,719
Speaker 1: is a starter and has a chance to do some

997
00:51:05,800 --> 00:51:09,320
Speaker 1: elite things. So there has to be some some amount

998
00:51:09,320 --> 00:51:14,799
Speaker 1: of kind of breakdown between relationships in order to tell people, hey,

999
00:51:14,840 --> 00:51:16,839
Speaker 1: Kyler Murray healthy, are not healthy? He's coming off the bench.

1000
00:51:17,840 --> 00:51:20,040
Speaker 10: Yeah, I could see that, and you can see because

1001
00:51:20,040 --> 00:51:22,279
Speaker 10: it looked like with Brissette, and I'm not surprised by this.

1002
00:51:22,400 --> 00:51:24,480
Speaker 10: He just brings a sense of calm to the offense.

1003
00:51:25,239 --> 00:51:26,840
Speaker 10: But you still have you know that the fumbles have

1004
00:51:26,880 --> 00:51:30,480
Speaker 10: been an issue through his career, but he's just a

1005
00:51:30,520 --> 00:51:33,359
Speaker 10: complete different style obviously than what they were playing with,

1006
00:51:33,760 --> 00:51:35,600
Speaker 10: which was also a little bit you know, that's a

1007
00:51:35,640 --> 00:51:37,239
Speaker 10: little bit different too. They really have to run two

1008
00:51:37,280 --> 00:51:39,560
Speaker 10: different separate, two separate offenses to space and the skill

1009
00:51:39,600 --> 00:51:42,680
Speaker 10: sets the two quarterbacks. But you can obviously see, you know,

1010
00:51:42,719 --> 00:51:45,480
Speaker 10: there's some sort of disconnect between him and Marvin Harrison

1011
00:51:45,560 --> 00:51:47,200
Speaker 10: Junior because they just were not in the same page

1012
00:51:47,280 --> 00:51:48,920
Speaker 10: last year and even this year, the way it started,

1013
00:51:48,920 --> 00:51:51,040
Speaker 10: they weren't quite in the same page, which is hard

1014
00:51:51,040 --> 00:51:53,439
Speaker 10: to fathom. So there's got there must be something going

1015
00:51:53,440 --> 00:51:55,360
Speaker 10: on behind the scenes there. I don't know what it is,

1016
00:51:55,400 --> 00:51:59,440
Speaker 10: but I still think Kyler is extremely talented and certainly

1017
00:51:59,440 --> 00:52:01,759
Speaker 10: has much more upside looking forward than Jakobe does at

1018
00:52:01,760 --> 00:52:02,160
Speaker 10: this point.

1019
00:52:03,719 --> 00:52:05,359
Speaker 1: Uh, Tom, when are you coming up to see the game?

1020
00:52:05,400 --> 00:52:07,319
Speaker 1: Have you ever seen a game at LAMBA like as

1021
00:52:07,320 --> 00:52:07,640
Speaker 1: a fan?

1022
00:52:09,600 --> 00:52:12,520
Speaker 10: I've seen very few professional football games as a fan

1023
00:52:12,560 --> 00:52:13,240
Speaker 10: in my lifetime.

1024
00:52:13,320 --> 00:52:16,160
Speaker 1: So no, okay, all right, Well how about either this

1025
00:52:16,239 --> 00:52:17,040
Speaker 1: year or next year?

1026
00:52:18,360 --> 00:52:19,799
Speaker 10: Well, I want to double up. I want to catch

1027
00:52:19,800 --> 00:52:21,680
Speaker 10: a Green Bay Phoenix basketball game and I want to

1028
00:52:21,680 --> 00:52:22,600
Speaker 10: see a Green Bay.

1029
00:52:22,360 --> 00:52:24,359
Speaker 1: Pack Had you been here today, That's what we did.

1030
00:52:24,400 --> 00:52:26,400
Speaker 1: We played at eleven o'clock, so everybody's got plenty of

1031
00:52:26,400 --> 00:52:28,279
Speaker 1: time for Monday night football, and I did that for you.

1032
00:52:28,440 --> 00:52:31,719
Speaker 10: This is me why Okay. I looked at this, I

1033
00:52:31,760 --> 00:52:34,000
Speaker 10: saw the score. I'm like, what kind of play this game?

1034
00:52:34,080 --> 00:52:35,919
Speaker 10: Seven am? Like, okay, that makes sense now.

1035
00:52:36,600 --> 00:52:39,040
Speaker 1: Eleven am is education day. So it was full of

1036
00:52:39,080 --> 00:52:40,760
Speaker 1: screaming kids. That was That was the idea.

1037
00:52:41,480 --> 00:52:43,279
Speaker 10: Nice grabbed them the win.

1038
00:52:43,719 --> 00:52:45,560
Speaker 1: Thank you. We will take it. I do not have

1039
00:52:45,600 --> 00:52:46,960
Speaker 1: to give it back, though Dan Bayer wants me to

1040
00:52:46,960 --> 00:52:48,399
Speaker 1: give it back. I will. I won't give it back.

1041
00:52:48,480 --> 00:52:50,080
Speaker 1: It's mine taking it on.

1042
00:52:50,160 --> 00:52:53,000
Speaker 10: Behalf of all Division three athletes out there. I would

1043
00:52:53,000 --> 00:52:55,200
Speaker 10: have loved the chance to play against the Division one team,

1044
00:52:55,200 --> 00:52:57,520
Speaker 10: even though I got my butt kicked. But it would

1045
00:52:57,520 --> 00:52:59,880
Speaker 10: have been that's That's just the opportunity would be great.

1046
00:52:59,680 --> 00:53:02,640
Speaker 1: To have, no question. Tom Telesco for general manager of

1047
00:53:02,640 --> 00:53:04,840
Speaker 1: the Chargers and Raiders and a good friend of the program.

1048
00:53:04,920 --> 00:53:07,440
Speaker 1: He joins us for his weekly spot. Tommy, thanks so

1049
00:53:07,520 --> 00:53:08,200
Speaker 1: much for joining us.

1050
00:53:08,520 --> 00:53:09,719
Speaker 10: All right, thanks Doreg. Take care