1 00:00:00,280 --> 00:00:03,239 Speaker 1: Entitled neighbor thinks he can wander into my back garden 2 00:00:03,279 --> 00:00:06,840 Speaker 1: when he wants. This is the plot of untitled goose game. 3 00:00:07,360 --> 00:00:11,360 Speaker 1: What like, you're a goose and you wander into people's 4 00:00:11,360 --> 00:00:12,600 Speaker 1: backyards and cos mischief? 5 00:00:12,840 --> 00:00:13,720 Speaker 2: What so? 6 00:00:14,440 --> 00:00:20,319 Speaker 1: K bha FC ninety says, nice, Going to try and 7 00:00:20,360 --> 00:00:23,000 Speaker 1: set the scene a bit here. My housebacks onto a 8 00:00:23,079 --> 00:00:25,600 Speaker 1: number of flats. I have a little terrace garden out 9 00:00:25,680 --> 00:00:28,319 Speaker 1: the back that is linked to my property. Below that 10 00:00:28,440 --> 00:00:30,880 Speaker 1: terrace is a small patio area that is linked to 11 00:00:30,880 --> 00:00:33,560 Speaker 1: the flats, which they can access through by their own 12 00:00:33,600 --> 00:00:36,000 Speaker 1: back door. There are then steps up to my area 13 00:00:36,040 --> 00:00:38,360 Speaker 1: which are gated off. I also have a locked gate 14 00:00:38,400 --> 00:00:41,280 Speaker 1: that allows access to the terrace garden because I live 15 00:00:41,360 --> 00:00:43,880 Speaker 1: on a main road. A few months ago, that flat 16 00:00:43,920 --> 00:00:46,000 Speaker 1: behind me had a problem with their plumbing and the 17 00:00:46,080 --> 00:00:49,960 Speaker 1: drain behind was overflowing with literal poop. That's gross. 18 00:00:50,560 --> 00:00:51,320 Speaker 3: That's gross. 19 00:00:51,479 --> 00:00:56,520 Speaker 1: Ooh uh, obviously an extremely nasty situation for everyone. When 20 00:00:56,520 --> 00:00:58,560 Speaker 1: the owner of the flats we will call him Tea, 21 00:00:58,840 --> 00:01:00,760 Speaker 1: asked if he could come round the back and check 22 00:01:00,840 --> 00:01:03,200 Speaker 1: the drain. Of course we said yes, because we're not 23 00:01:03,240 --> 00:01:05,840 Speaker 1: total a holes. After he checked the drain, he said 24 00:01:05,880 --> 00:01:08,480 Speaker 1: he'd need somebody to come out check it and drain it. 25 00:01:08,840 --> 00:01:11,039 Speaker 1: We agreed, but made it clear we would need to 26 00:01:11,040 --> 00:01:13,960 Speaker 1: be made aware before it happened, as stipulated in our 27 00:01:14,000 --> 00:01:17,680 Speaker 1: rental agreement with the letting agent. He said fine, and 28 00:01:17,720 --> 00:01:19,680 Speaker 1: we got noticed before any work was done so we 29 00:01:19,720 --> 00:01:22,080 Speaker 1: could ensure our gate was unlocked. I thought that was 30 00:01:22,120 --> 00:01:25,520 Speaker 1: the end of it, and boy was I wrong. Uh oh, 31 00:01:25,840 --> 00:01:28,320 Speaker 1: I feel like he didn't listen to their one stipulation. 32 00:01:29,200 --> 00:01:31,280 Speaker 1: A few weeks later, I was at home and heard 33 00:01:31,280 --> 00:01:32,200 Speaker 1: my front gate open. 34 00:01:32,360 --> 00:01:33,080 Speaker 3: Uh oh. 35 00:01:33,120 --> 00:01:35,600 Speaker 1: I found it odd because my boyfriend wasn't due home 36 00:01:35,640 --> 00:01:37,880 Speaker 1: from work for a little while, and nobody knocked on 37 00:01:37,920 --> 00:01:40,360 Speaker 1: the door. The door to my house is immediately next 38 00:01:40,360 --> 00:01:42,679 Speaker 1: to the gate, so it seconds between the gate opening 39 00:01:42,680 --> 00:01:44,959 Speaker 1: and a knock. When the gate went a second time, 40 00:01:45,319 --> 00:01:49,480 Speaker 1: I looked outside to find Tea walking away. Ah, obviously 41 00:01:49,560 --> 00:01:52,480 Speaker 1: he had entered my property without my consent. Yeah, if 42 00:01:52,520 --> 00:01:54,160 Speaker 1: you have twenty four I mean, I don't know if 43 00:01:54,160 --> 00:01:56,280 Speaker 1: this is in America because they keep using flats, but 44 00:01:56,520 --> 00:01:58,960 Speaker 1: in America you have to give twenty four hour notice. 45 00:01:59,080 --> 00:02:01,120 Speaker 1: Really yeah for a landlord to enter a property. 46 00:02:01,240 --> 00:02:03,480 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I didn't know that or. 47 00:02:03,440 --> 00:02:06,760 Speaker 1: At least in California. I shouldn't be making bold general statement. 48 00:02:07,160 --> 00:02:09,320 Speaker 3: I mean, I'm okay if my landlord shows up whenever 49 00:02:09,800 --> 00:02:11,480 Speaker 3: it was good Harry. 50 00:02:12,520 --> 00:02:14,560 Speaker 1: Not actual Karen though actually her name is Karen. 51 00:02:14,960 --> 00:02:17,119 Speaker 3: Yeah, that is her actual name. That's actually cool. 52 00:02:17,160 --> 00:02:20,160 Speaker 1: She's cool, though she's not a Karen's wanting to give 53 00:02:20,200 --> 00:02:22,240 Speaker 1: him the benefit of the doubt, believing that he just 54 00:02:22,240 --> 00:02:24,519 Speaker 1: wanted to check the drain one last time. I didn't 55 00:02:24,560 --> 00:02:27,639 Speaker 1: say anything about it, just letting it slide. A couple 56 00:02:27,639 --> 00:02:29,800 Speaker 1: of days later, my boyfriend, who had given him his 57 00:02:29,880 --> 00:02:32,160 Speaker 1: number to deal with a drain issue, got a phone 58 00:02:32,160 --> 00:02:34,400 Speaker 1: call from him saying he needed to gain access to 59 00:02:34,400 --> 00:02:36,400 Speaker 1: the back of our property and why do we have 60 00:02:36,480 --> 00:02:39,440 Speaker 1: a gate locked? So we only called them to check 61 00:02:39,480 --> 00:02:42,320 Speaker 1: in after trying to get into their place. 62 00:02:42,480 --> 00:02:44,640 Speaker 3: Wait, why is he trying to get in the backyard? 63 00:02:44,680 --> 00:02:46,920 Speaker 1: Though I don't know, he just says he needs access 64 00:02:46,919 --> 00:02:49,400 Speaker 1: to the property. But it's wild that he called them 65 00:02:49,760 --> 00:02:51,919 Speaker 1: after like trying to get into it. 66 00:02:52,240 --> 00:02:53,120 Speaker 2: This is wow. 67 00:02:53,480 --> 00:02:53,959 Speaker 3: Yikes. 68 00:02:54,120 --> 00:02:56,200 Speaker 1: As my boyfriend said, we were both at work and 69 00:02:56,280 --> 00:02:58,560 Speaker 1: neither could come home to deal with his request, and 70 00:02:58,600 --> 00:03:01,440 Speaker 1: if he needed something to speak to the letting agents, 71 00:03:01,639 --> 00:03:03,880 Speaker 1: he just hung up. I spoke to my boyfriend and 72 00:03:03,919 --> 00:03:06,399 Speaker 1: we collectively came to the decision that we would keep 73 00:03:06,400 --> 00:03:09,239 Speaker 1: the gate locked at all times, even when we were 74 00:03:09,280 --> 00:03:12,000 Speaker 1: in because I didn't feel comfortable with him just walking 75 00:03:12,040 --> 00:03:14,520 Speaker 1: into my property as and when he felt like that, 76 00:03:14,880 --> 00:03:17,799 Speaker 1: and he did not like that, and there is more. 77 00:03:17,880 --> 00:03:19,720 Speaker 1: But like, yeah, this is not okay. 78 00:03:19,840 --> 00:03:21,680 Speaker 3: What can you do something about them? 79 00:03:22,080 --> 00:03:26,200 Speaker 1: He's the he's the landlord, but he's like, legally, based 80 00:03:26,240 --> 00:03:29,000 Speaker 1: off California law, don't know about this place, you have 81 00:03:29,040 --> 00:03:31,480 Speaker 1: to give twenty four hours notice or that's a violation 82 00:03:31,600 --> 00:03:32,120 Speaker 1: to the lease. 83 00:03:32,680 --> 00:03:35,880 Speaker 3: But my question is is there something legally you can 84 00:03:35,920 --> 00:03:37,800 Speaker 3: do or like, can you sue them? Wait? 85 00:03:37,840 --> 00:03:40,120 Speaker 1: Can you look it up? If a landlord does not 86 00:03:40,200 --> 00:03:44,160 Speaker 1: give you twenty four hours notice before entering your property, 87 00:03:44,400 --> 00:03:45,800 Speaker 1: what steps can you take? 88 00:03:46,080 --> 00:03:46,200 Speaker 2: All? 89 00:03:46,280 --> 00:03:50,240 Speaker 3: Right? If the landlord enters a tennis property without giving permission, 90 00:03:50,360 --> 00:03:53,280 Speaker 3: even he required notice, it could be considered a violation 91 00:03:53,480 --> 00:03:58,280 Speaker 3: of the tenant's right ooh. These specific consequences of such 92 00:03:58,440 --> 00:04:01,280 Speaker 3: violation can vary depending on any local laws and the 93 00:04:01,360 --> 00:04:03,840 Speaker 3: lease agreement. In case, his tenants may have the right 94 00:04:03,880 --> 00:04:07,360 Speaker 3: to pursue legal action against their landlords for these violations. 95 00:04:07,840 --> 00:04:11,120 Speaker 3: This could include suing for damages if he tendant can 96 00:04:11,160 --> 00:04:15,480 Speaker 3: prove the landlord on our thrives calls damages or harm. Okay, yeah, ok. 97 00:04:15,480 --> 00:04:17,920 Speaker 1: So there is legal action these people could take. 98 00:04:18,200 --> 00:04:21,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, if this continues. If this continues, but like it 99 00:04:21,440 --> 00:04:25,320 Speaker 3: seems like damages need to happen, maybe yeah, get really 100 00:04:25,320 --> 00:04:27,000 Speaker 3: expensive grass and be like he's. 101 00:04:26,880 --> 00:04:28,040 Speaker 1: Stip on it. 102 00:04:28,440 --> 00:04:29,760 Speaker 3: We just put plants right there. 103 00:04:29,920 --> 00:04:33,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, just like booby trap it home alone and then 104 00:04:34,160 --> 00:04:36,240 Speaker 1: he comes in. Yourely. He broke it. The next time 105 00:04:36,240 --> 00:04:38,640 Speaker 1: he tried to get in. My boyfriend was at home 106 00:04:38,720 --> 00:04:40,640 Speaker 1: and I was at work when he opened the gate. 107 00:04:40,720 --> 00:04:43,800 Speaker 1: He got a stream of abuse from Tea asking why 108 00:04:43,839 --> 00:04:45,800 Speaker 1: we had locked the gate when he had permission to 109 00:04:45,800 --> 00:04:48,400 Speaker 1: add access to the back when he wants. And there 110 00:04:48,480 --> 00:04:50,479 Speaker 1: is a note in our rental agreement to state this. 111 00:04:50,960 --> 00:04:53,200 Speaker 1: There should not be a note that that can't be illegal. 112 00:04:53,480 --> 00:04:55,640 Speaker 1: You threatened to get solicitors on us if we didn't 113 00:04:55,720 --> 00:04:57,599 Speaker 1: leave the gate open or give him a key to 114 00:04:57,600 --> 00:04:59,720 Speaker 1: get in when he wanted. It was here, he said, 115 00:04:59,720 --> 00:05:02,520 Speaker 1: because he had renovated the house, he deserved to gain 116 00:05:02,560 --> 00:05:05,520 Speaker 1: access on his terms, even though he wasn't our landlord. 117 00:05:05,640 --> 00:05:09,160 Speaker 1: He's not even a landlord. Oh, well, that he absolutely 118 00:05:09,200 --> 00:05:11,240 Speaker 1: shouldn't have access to this place. 119 00:05:11,480 --> 00:05:14,640 Speaker 3: But he renovated the house, so but he took time 120 00:05:14,680 --> 00:05:15,400 Speaker 3: to do that. 121 00:05:15,400 --> 00:05:18,280 Speaker 1: That's crazy. That's like hiring a contractor and they're like, well, 122 00:05:18,360 --> 00:05:21,800 Speaker 1: I worked on the house, so I deserve to live here. 123 00:05:22,080 --> 00:05:23,080 Speaker 3: Yike, dude. 124 00:05:23,240 --> 00:05:25,000 Speaker 1: My boyfriend just told him to take it up with 125 00:05:25,040 --> 00:05:27,159 Speaker 1: the letting agent if there was a problem, and shut 126 00:05:27,200 --> 00:05:29,240 Speaker 1: the door on his face. When I got home, I 127 00:05:29,360 --> 00:05:32,240 Speaker 1: combed through my rental agreement and there was no such 128 00:05:32,279 --> 00:05:34,520 Speaker 1: note in place. The only thing I could find about 129 00:05:34,520 --> 00:05:37,520 Speaker 1: access was we require twenty four hours notice for any 130 00:05:37,560 --> 00:05:40,040 Speaker 1: work or access to the property. As I said, yes, 131 00:05:40,440 --> 00:05:43,240 Speaker 1: including the garden unless it was urgent, and they required 132 00:05:43,279 --> 00:05:45,880 Speaker 1: access sooner, but they still had to provide detail in 133 00:05:45,920 --> 00:05:48,559 Speaker 1: writing about any work that would be done even within 134 00:05:48,800 --> 00:05:51,599 Speaker 1: twenty four hours. Because of this, I told the letting agent, 135 00:05:51,640 --> 00:05:54,039 Speaker 1: who had communication with Tea, that he would have to 136 00:05:54,080 --> 00:05:56,640 Speaker 1: ask for access to my garden via them, and I 137 00:05:56,720 --> 00:06:00,120 Speaker 1: require the written notice as stipulated in my contract. They 138 00:06:00,160 --> 00:06:03,240 Speaker 1: agreed to pass the message on. Things cooled a bit, 139 00:06:03,320 --> 00:06:06,080 Speaker 1: but the problem with the drain started again. We could 140 00:06:06,120 --> 00:06:08,800 Speaker 1: see it was overflowing, and apparently Tea was aware but 141 00:06:08,880 --> 00:06:11,440 Speaker 1: we hadn't heard anything from him or the letting agent 142 00:06:11,520 --> 00:06:13,919 Speaker 1: about when somebody would come and deal with it. This 143 00:06:14,240 --> 00:06:17,000 Speaker 1: was when I got my own back. I'm probably a 144 00:06:17,000 --> 00:06:19,719 Speaker 1: bad person for this, but at this stage I had enough. 145 00:06:19,720 --> 00:06:20,599 Speaker 1: What do you think they're gonna do? 146 00:06:21,080 --> 00:06:21,839 Speaker 3: Uh? 147 00:06:21,880 --> 00:06:22,480 Speaker 1: Booby trap? 148 00:06:22,600 --> 00:06:26,320 Speaker 3: Booby trap, boop chop, boopy trap, poop trap Because of 149 00:06:26,440 --> 00:06:28,280 Speaker 3: the drain right poopy trap. 150 00:06:28,400 --> 00:06:30,480 Speaker 1: Tea turned up with the drainage company on a day 151 00:06:30,480 --> 00:06:32,880 Speaker 1: that I was at home unwell. I was lying on 152 00:06:32,920 --> 00:06:34,800 Speaker 1: the sofa when I heard a van pull up and 153 00:06:34,880 --> 00:06:37,200 Speaker 1: somebody tried to open the gate, but of course it 154 00:06:37,320 --> 00:06:40,280 Speaker 1: was locked. The bell lent and I considered getting up 155 00:06:40,320 --> 00:06:42,920 Speaker 1: and answering the door, but when I heard Tea's voice, 156 00:06:43,360 --> 00:06:46,560 Speaker 1: I decided I wasn't going to feed his entitlement. I 157 00:06:46,680 --> 00:06:49,440 Speaker 1: just laid back down, stuck my earplugs in, and tried 158 00:06:49,480 --> 00:06:51,440 Speaker 1: to go back to sleep. For the next thirty or 159 00:06:51,480 --> 00:06:54,320 Speaker 1: so minutes, he tried to get in, constantly ringing the bell, 160 00:06:54,760 --> 00:06:58,360 Speaker 1: knocking loudly on my window, shouting into the house, screaming 161 00:06:58,400 --> 00:07:00,160 Speaker 1: at what I could only assume was my boyfriend on 162 00:07:00,200 --> 00:07:03,240 Speaker 1: the phone, but I ignored it all. Eventually he got 163 00:07:03,240 --> 00:07:05,960 Speaker 1: the message and left. When my boyfriend came home from work, 164 00:07:06,240 --> 00:07:08,839 Speaker 1: he came back to give us a verbal dressing down, 165 00:07:09,200 --> 00:07:12,240 Speaker 1: threatening legal action again because he needed access to the 166 00:07:12,280 --> 00:07:15,160 Speaker 1: property and we didn't provide it. I pointed out that 167 00:07:15,360 --> 00:07:17,280 Speaker 1: neither of us were in when he turned up. My 168 00:07:17,360 --> 00:07:19,320 Speaker 1: blinds were shut and nobody can see in, so he 169 00:07:19,360 --> 00:07:21,360 Speaker 1: didn't know I was off sick, and he didn't give 170 00:07:21,440 --> 00:07:24,040 Speaker 1: us the agreed notice that he would require access, and 171 00:07:24,160 --> 00:07:26,680 Speaker 1: in the future I will no longer be dealing with him. 172 00:07:26,960 --> 00:07:29,600 Speaker 1: If he wants access, to go through the letting agent, 173 00:07:29,680 --> 00:07:31,400 Speaker 1: and the next time I find him in my garden, 174 00:07:31,600 --> 00:07:35,080 Speaker 1: I'm ringing the police for trespassing. He's still threatening me. 175 00:07:35,240 --> 00:07:37,080 Speaker 1: So I told him to go for it because I 176 00:07:37,160 --> 00:07:39,480 Speaker 1: get free legal advice due to a membership I had, 177 00:07:39,600 --> 00:07:41,480 Speaker 1: and if he really wants to go down that route, 178 00:07:41,640 --> 00:07:45,160 Speaker 1: be my guest. I've honestly never seen somebody shut up 179 00:07:45,280 --> 00:07:47,840 Speaker 1: so quickly. He said he'd go through the letting agent 180 00:07:47,880 --> 00:07:50,120 Speaker 1: in the future, and I said, good choice and shut 181 00:07:50,200 --> 00:07:51,040 Speaker 1: the door in his face. 182 00:07:51,320 --> 00:07:53,920 Speaker 3: Nice hell Yeah. 183 00:07:54,240 --> 00:07:56,840 Speaker 1: After that, he solely dealt with the letting agent and 184 00:07:56,960 --> 00:07:59,640 Speaker 1: followed all instructions. Once he knew I had access to 185 00:07:59,680 --> 00:08:02,560 Speaker 1: free legal advice. The best part about this whole instant 186 00:08:02,880 --> 00:08:04,480 Speaker 1: was he could have checked the drain from his own 187 00:08:04,520 --> 00:08:07,960 Speaker 1: property and never needed access to my garden. What He 188 00:08:08,120 --> 00:08:10,160 Speaker 1: just wanted to flex his muscles and thought he could 189 00:08:10,160 --> 00:08:11,960 Speaker 1: bully us because we're a younger couple. 190 00:08:12,160 --> 00:08:13,800 Speaker 3: That makes no sense. 191 00:08:14,600 --> 00:08:17,600 Speaker 1: Huh Yeah, No, legally, this guy is not allowed onto 192 00:08:17,640 --> 00:08:18,200 Speaker 1: your property. 193 00:08:18,560 --> 00:08:20,560 Speaker 3: And good for you for, like, yeah, standing up. 194 00:08:20,640 --> 00:08:23,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, good for you for standing up to this horrible, 195 00:08:23,640 --> 00:08:25,240 Speaker 1: horrible neighbor. He sucks. 196 00:08:25,480 --> 00:08:27,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, maybe you just want to see like your flowers. 197 00:08:28,040 --> 00:08:30,080 Speaker 1: He was like, I really like your garden. I need 198 00:08:30,120 --> 00:08:32,880 Speaker 1: to get some pictures. 199 00:08:32,000 --> 00:08:36,160 Speaker 3: A very rare plant in your garden, and that's why 200 00:08:36,200 --> 00:08:37,520 Speaker 3: he wanted to come see it all the time. 201 00:08:37,760 --> 00:08:39,959 Speaker 1: He hid a very rare plant in your garden. 202 00:08:40,240 --> 00:08:42,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, And he's like, I need back there now. 203 00:08:42,600 --> 00:08:46,080 Speaker 4: I buried my treasure in your garden, please, I need 204 00:08:46,120 --> 00:08:46,840 Speaker 4: to dig it up. 205 00:08:47,400 --> 00:08:50,360 Speaker 1: I renovated your house and I buried treasure in your garden. 206 00:08:51,520 --> 00:08:54,440 Speaker 1: Karen called the police because I'm going out at weird 207 00:08:54,559 --> 00:08:56,280 Speaker 1: times and slaps me. 208 00:08:57,040 --> 00:09:03,040 Speaker 3: What what looks a weird time to I? M two pm? 209 00:09:03,640 --> 00:09:08,080 Speaker 1: M So Sifkey says, I am referring to this post 210 00:09:08,120 --> 00:09:10,600 Speaker 1: as if it were happening now, but actually it occurred 211 00:09:10,640 --> 00:09:13,160 Speaker 1: a few years ago. The title sounds strange, but I 212 00:09:13,200 --> 00:09:15,160 Speaker 1: really don't allow us to describe it. I feel like 213 00:09:15,200 --> 00:09:17,160 Speaker 1: the title was very to the point. Oh it was great, 214 00:09:17,200 --> 00:09:18,040 Speaker 1: Like you told the whole story. 215 00:09:18,040 --> 00:09:18,960 Speaker 3: I want to read it now. 216 00:09:19,040 --> 00:09:21,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, it was a good hook. I was a sixteen 217 00:09:21,040 --> 00:09:22,920 Speaker 1: year old from Serbia and I live in the building 218 00:09:22,920 --> 00:09:25,920 Speaker 1: next to my grandmother's. But our entrances don't face each other, 219 00:09:26,080 --> 00:09:28,360 Speaker 1: so if I manage, I'll draw a map. Now, our 220 00:09:28,400 --> 00:09:32,160 Speaker 1: buildings are divided into several buildings. Strange, but each entrance 221 00:09:32,320 --> 00:09:35,400 Speaker 1: functions like its own building, as if we only share walls. 222 00:09:35,559 --> 00:09:38,319 Speaker 1: You can't exit one entrance to get to another without 223 00:09:38,400 --> 00:09:41,120 Speaker 1: leaving the building. Now, I live in the entrance facing 224 00:09:41,160 --> 00:09:43,880 Speaker 1: another building. If I go around it, the other entrance 225 00:09:44,000 --> 00:09:48,560 Speaker 1: leads to my grandmother's apartments. Unfortunately, my grandfather passed away 226 00:09:48,679 --> 00:09:51,440 Speaker 1: eight years ago, leaving my grandmother alone in her apartment. 227 00:09:51,640 --> 00:09:54,840 Speaker 1: My parents back then behind my back, saw one empty 228 00:09:54,920 --> 00:09:57,679 Speaker 1: room and asked my grandmother if we could turn it 229 00:09:57,720 --> 00:10:00,800 Speaker 1: into my private room because I needed privacy. My grandmother 230 00:10:00,880 --> 00:10:03,800 Speaker 1: was thrilled by the idea. After discussing with me, we 231 00:10:03,840 --> 00:10:06,439 Speaker 1: made the room for me. Since I followed my grandmother's 232 00:10:06,480 --> 00:10:08,320 Speaker 1: rules and helped her, I didn't spend all my time 233 00:10:08,360 --> 00:10:11,560 Speaker 1: at our place. Instead, I switched between apartments as needed. 234 00:10:11,760 --> 00:10:14,480 Speaker 1: For example, I come home from school, leave my things, 235 00:10:14,520 --> 00:10:17,240 Speaker 1: and go to my grandmother's to sleep, then return home 236 00:10:17,280 --> 00:10:19,280 Speaker 1: in the morning to have breakfast. I had a sort 237 00:10:19,280 --> 00:10:21,600 Speaker 1: of routine for when I went where, with an accuracy 238 00:10:21,600 --> 00:10:22,720 Speaker 1: of plus or minus an hour. 239 00:10:23,000 --> 00:10:23,280 Speaker 3: Wait. 240 00:10:23,400 --> 00:10:27,280 Speaker 1: So, while they were living with their parents, they were 241 00:10:27,320 --> 00:10:30,440 Speaker 1: also given another room with the grandmother. 242 00:10:30,800 --> 00:10:33,439 Speaker 3: I guess so because it sounds like the grandmother was 243 00:10:33,480 --> 00:10:35,319 Speaker 3: either closer to college or whatever. 244 00:10:35,600 --> 00:10:37,120 Speaker 1: No, but they still have their own apartment. I think 245 00:10:37,120 --> 00:10:38,080 Speaker 1: they're all living together. 246 00:10:38,480 --> 00:10:40,600 Speaker 3: I think this kid I read earlier, he's like sixteen, 247 00:10:40,840 --> 00:10:42,600 Speaker 3: goes to live with his grandmother for a little bit, 248 00:10:42,640 --> 00:10:43,520 Speaker 3: and then comes back home. 249 00:10:43,679 --> 00:10:46,760 Speaker 1: It might be the like, oh, he's living with multiple light. 250 00:10:46,840 --> 00:10:48,280 Speaker 1: They have one room and they're all living in the 251 00:10:48,320 --> 00:10:50,880 Speaker 1: same room together, Okay, And then they realized that grandmother 252 00:10:50,920 --> 00:10:52,440 Speaker 1: has her own room, and so they're like, oh, if 253 00:10:52,480 --> 00:10:56,800 Speaker 1: you want, gotcha empty room. So maybe that's why. Now 254 00:10:56,840 --> 00:10:59,079 Speaker 1: I live in the entrance facing another building. If I 255 00:10:59,120 --> 00:11:02,240 Speaker 1: go around it, the other entrance leads to my grandmother's apartment. 256 00:11:02,600 --> 00:11:04,920 Speaker 1: Directly in front of my entrance is another entrance, and 257 00:11:04,960 --> 00:11:07,240 Speaker 1: above it on the window. Seventy percent of the time 258 00:11:07,280 --> 00:11:10,840 Speaker 1: when I went out, there was an elderly woman. She 259 00:11:10,960 --> 00:11:13,480 Speaker 1: always looked at me somewhat grumpily as I passed by. 260 00:11:13,720 --> 00:11:16,080 Speaker 1: Sometimes I glanced at her, but I had headphones on 261 00:11:16,160 --> 00:11:18,760 Speaker 1: and often wore a hoodie, so I ignored her. When I 262 00:11:18,800 --> 00:11:21,360 Speaker 1: had the second shift, I usually got home around eight twenty, 263 00:11:21,640 --> 00:11:23,840 Speaker 1: and then I went to my grandmother's around ten thirty. 264 00:11:24,000 --> 00:11:27,640 Speaker 1: Of course, with exceptions, that woman was almost always there, 265 00:11:27,920 --> 00:11:29,960 Speaker 1: but it didn't bother me, because why would it. I 266 00:11:30,000 --> 00:11:32,800 Speaker 1: saw her for twenty seconds a day. Once, when I 267 00:11:32,920 --> 00:11:35,080 Speaker 1: was leaving my house to go to my grandmother's without 268 00:11:35,080 --> 00:11:38,920 Speaker 1: headphones on or a hoodie, she finally said something, Karen, 269 00:11:39,400 --> 00:11:42,439 Speaker 1: you're going to get high again. Huh? 270 00:11:42,480 --> 00:11:44,840 Speaker 4: Every day you go out with a hoodie over your 271 00:11:44,880 --> 00:11:46,920 Speaker 4: head in the dead of night. It was ten thirty. 272 00:11:46,960 --> 00:11:49,960 Speaker 4: Then I can clearly see what you're doing. What am 273 00:11:49,960 --> 00:11:54,360 Speaker 4: I doing dealing drugs? What's in that backpack that's not 274 00:11:54,520 --> 00:11:57,520 Speaker 4: of your business? Just a laptop and equipment. I think 275 00:11:57,559 --> 00:12:01,280 Speaker 4: it's drugs. Open it, let me see it me. 276 00:12:01,520 --> 00:12:03,440 Speaker 1: I felt like telling her that The only thing I 277 00:12:03,440 --> 00:12:05,319 Speaker 1: would open for her is a punch in the face. 278 00:12:05,880 --> 00:12:08,560 Speaker 1: Leave me alone, and I just walked away. The next day, 279 00:12:08,679 --> 00:12:11,160 Speaker 1: she was waiting for me outside the entrance. What's in 280 00:12:11,200 --> 00:12:13,160 Speaker 1: the bag? You're a psycho? 281 00:12:13,520 --> 00:12:15,480 Speaker 4: If you don't tell me, I'll call the police. 282 00:12:16,000 --> 00:12:19,040 Speaker 1: OPI call whoever you want. I'm out of here. I 283 00:12:19,120 --> 00:12:21,480 Speaker 1: left while she was yelling at me. The next day, 284 00:12:21,600 --> 00:12:24,280 Speaker 1: two police officers were waiting for me outside the door 285 00:12:24,559 --> 00:12:25,240 Speaker 1: with Karen. 286 00:12:25,840 --> 00:12:28,120 Speaker 4: That's him, he's the local dealer. 287 00:12:28,760 --> 00:12:28,840 Speaker 3: Me. 288 00:12:29,120 --> 00:12:31,880 Speaker 1: What's going on? We'll refer to the police officers as 289 00:12:31,920 --> 00:12:35,200 Speaker 1: P one and P two. P one, we received a 290 00:12:35,280 --> 00:12:40,120 Speaker 1: report that drug trafficking is happening here. Nice me looking 291 00:12:40,200 --> 00:12:41,960 Speaker 1: at him? Is this for real? P? 292 00:12:42,120 --> 00:12:42,320 Speaker 3: Two? 293 00:12:42,800 --> 00:12:45,520 Speaker 1: As absurd as it may see, we have to check 294 00:12:45,559 --> 00:12:46,359 Speaker 1: it out. 295 00:12:46,800 --> 00:12:46,839 Speaker 3: Me. 296 00:12:47,320 --> 00:12:49,640 Speaker 1: Can you search me and let me go? Then we'll 297 00:12:49,720 --> 00:12:52,640 Speaker 1: search you. But we won't let you go immediately because 298 00:12:52,679 --> 00:12:56,280 Speaker 1: the lady said she saw you dealing op That woman 299 00:12:56,360 --> 00:12:58,520 Speaker 1: is crazy. But do whatever you have to do. I 300 00:12:58,559 --> 00:13:00,880 Speaker 1: just want to get this over with. He one searched 301 00:13:00,920 --> 00:13:03,120 Speaker 1: me while Karen was yelling about me being a dealer. 302 00:13:03,200 --> 00:13:08,280 Speaker 1: P two ow ou sixteen says, Opie, do you have 303 00:13:08,400 --> 00:13:12,680 Speaker 1: an IP? I literally went to the building next door. 304 00:13:12,720 --> 00:13:14,760 Speaker 1: I don't even have a wallet. Can I go to 305 00:13:14,840 --> 00:13:16,880 Speaker 1: my apartment to get it. I'll leave my backpack with 306 00:13:16,920 --> 00:13:22,880 Speaker 1: a laptop as collateral. That'll return you, Olivia p One, says Opie. Yes, 307 00:13:23,240 --> 00:13:27,680 Speaker 1: I'll accompany you to the apartment, but won't enter. OPI. Okay. 308 00:13:28,200 --> 00:13:30,520 Speaker 1: When I returned to the apartment, my parents asked what 309 00:13:30,600 --> 00:13:32,840 Speaker 1: I had forgotten. I said, can I get my wallet? 310 00:13:32,920 --> 00:13:35,600 Speaker 1: My id's inside. I want to buy juice, By the way, 311 00:13:35,679 --> 00:13:39,640 Speaker 1: I really wanted to buy juice for later. Okay, why 312 00:13:39,640 --> 00:13:42,079 Speaker 1: didn't you tell him about the police officers. I returned 313 00:13:42,080 --> 00:13:45,120 Speaker 1: to the police officer and my parents hadn't noticed anything yet. 314 00:13:45,400 --> 00:13:48,079 Speaker 1: Not yet. We return outside and I show my ID, 315 00:13:48,280 --> 00:13:51,320 Speaker 1: which was valid. There's nothing in the backpack. The kid 316 00:13:51,360 --> 00:13:54,320 Speaker 1: didn't cause any trouble. And let's be real, just look 317 00:13:54,360 --> 00:13:58,319 Speaker 1: at him. I know he has drugs. I saw him. Where, 318 00:13:58,960 --> 00:14:02,280 Speaker 1: says Ophie. At this point, Karen made a mistake, pointing 319 00:14:02,320 --> 00:14:05,920 Speaker 1: to the place under the cameras. OPI asks when she 320 00:14:06,000 --> 00:14:08,960 Speaker 1: said the exact date, op says, great, we can check 321 00:14:09,040 --> 00:14:13,400 Speaker 1: the cameras. Realizing her plan backfired, Karen did the only 322 00:14:13,480 --> 00:14:15,120 Speaker 1: sensible thing. What's the only sensible thing. 323 00:14:15,360 --> 00:14:19,000 Speaker 3: Um, she said, I'm sorry, Yeah, this was all a mistake. 324 00:14:19,080 --> 00:14:23,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, of course she slapped him. Oh she slapped a 325 00:14:23,320 --> 00:14:30,080 Speaker 1: sixteen year old child, super sensible. He one handcuffed her 326 00:14:30,160 --> 00:14:32,800 Speaker 1: and put her in the car while Karen was screaming 327 00:14:32,840 --> 00:14:35,960 Speaker 1: at me. A small detail about me. I have a lot, 328 00:14:36,120 --> 00:14:38,680 Speaker 1: a lot of pimples. I know one person who has 329 00:14:38,720 --> 00:14:41,120 Speaker 1: approximately as many pimples as I do, and that's it. 330 00:14:41,320 --> 00:14:44,320 Speaker 1: When you slapped me, it bled because I barely felt 331 00:14:44,320 --> 00:14:46,560 Speaker 1: the slap, which made it look worse than I actually was. 332 00:14:46,800 --> 00:14:49,720 Speaker 1: Oh that sucks. He One went and informed my parents. 333 00:14:49,800 --> 00:14:51,920 Speaker 1: They came out and my mom wiped away the blood 334 00:14:51,960 --> 00:14:54,040 Speaker 1: while my dad talked to the police. He asked the 335 00:14:54,080 --> 00:14:56,000 Speaker 1: officer if he could send me to wash up, and 336 00:14:56,080 --> 00:14:59,080 Speaker 1: p one sent me. Karen was convicted of assaulting a 337 00:14:59,200 --> 00:15:02,760 Speaker 1: miner and miss using the police. Wow. Since we managed 338 00:15:02,760 --> 00:15:04,800 Speaker 1: to hush up the whole story from the neighbors, by 339 00:15:04,800 --> 00:15:08,880 Speaker 1: some miracle, no one saw anything. Karen received a punishment 340 00:15:08,960 --> 00:15:11,560 Speaker 1: and a stir warning. I was late for playing with 341 00:15:11,640 --> 00:15:14,600 Speaker 1: my friends, which cost me a good heist. N GTA 342 00:15:14,920 --> 00:15:17,760 Speaker 1: dang at it. She wasn't in jail, but got a 343 00:15:17,800 --> 00:15:19,760 Speaker 1: good enough warning that She didn't say worse to me 344 00:15:19,800 --> 00:15:22,800 Speaker 1: since then, but she's still in her usual spot next 345 00:15:22,840 --> 00:15:24,200 Speaker 1: to a window, just. 346 00:15:24,760 --> 00:15:27,080 Speaker 3: Claring, dude, that's so spooky. 347 00:15:27,440 --> 00:15:31,960 Speaker 1: She's just saying that like doing that the whole time. 348 00:15:32,200 --> 00:15:33,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's yikes. 349 00:15:33,400 --> 00:15:35,480 Speaker 1: That is a Karen if I've ever heard one. That's 350 00:15:35,600 --> 00:15:39,400 Speaker 1: crazy slapping a miner. Slapping a miner, even if he 351 00:15:39,440 --> 00:15:41,480 Speaker 1: was dealing drugs. You don't slap a miner. 352 00:15:41,720 --> 00:15:44,120 Speaker 3: What makes you think he was selling drugs? 353 00:15:44,160 --> 00:15:46,040 Speaker 1: Literally? I feel like she saw a kid in a 354 00:15:46,080 --> 00:15:48,160 Speaker 1: hoodie in a backpack and was like. 355 00:15:48,200 --> 00:15:50,120 Speaker 3: Frags, I saw this in a movie once. 356 00:15:50,400 --> 00:15:53,040 Speaker 4: I saw it in a movie once, frags. 357 00:15:53,360 --> 00:15:57,080 Speaker 1: Wow, Well that's the wrap of that story. I think 358 00:15:57,120 --> 00:16:00,760 Speaker 1: it's pretty clear cut that Karen is in the wrong. 359 00:16:01,280 --> 00:16:01,480 Speaker 2: Yeah. 360 00:16:01,480 --> 00:16:02,800 Speaker 1: Do you have any Karen stories? Really? 361 00:16:03,480 --> 00:16:05,640 Speaker 3: II? 362 00:16:06,240 --> 00:16:06,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, I have one. 363 00:16:07,000 --> 00:16:09,200 Speaker 3: I don't have one off the top of my head. 364 00:16:09,440 --> 00:16:11,680 Speaker 1: I lot have like small Karen stories from when I 365 00:16:11,680 --> 00:16:12,640 Speaker 1: worked at Starbucks. 366 00:16:12,680 --> 00:16:14,000 Speaker 3: I could go's the worst. 367 00:16:14,520 --> 00:16:17,760 Speaker 1: We didn't have crazy ones because I worked on campus, 368 00:16:17,760 --> 00:16:23,320 Speaker 1: so it wasn't just like mostly students. But one time 369 00:16:24,320 --> 00:16:27,600 Speaker 1: this guy yelled at me for forgetting to put nuts 370 00:16:27,640 --> 00:16:30,800 Speaker 1: in his bag of oatmeal, like on the thing. There 371 00:16:30,840 --> 00:16:33,960 Speaker 1: was instructions to like have the water separate from the 372 00:16:34,000 --> 00:16:36,920 Speaker 1: oatmeal and have like everything separated. So I did that, 373 00:16:37,160 --> 00:16:38,920 Speaker 1: and then I guess I forgot to put the almonds 374 00:16:38,920 --> 00:16:41,680 Speaker 1: in because usually we didnote which there's two different types 375 00:16:41,680 --> 00:16:43,280 Speaker 1: of oatmeals, so you can either get it with like 376 00:16:43,320 --> 00:16:44,920 Speaker 1: blueberries or you can get it with almonds, and so 377 00:16:44,960 --> 00:16:46,840 Speaker 1: I didn't say which one. So I didn't give him 378 00:16:46,840 --> 00:16:48,480 Speaker 1: the almonds. And then he comes back and he starts 379 00:16:48,560 --> 00:16:51,000 Speaker 1: yelling at me. He's like, I wanted almonds, What are 380 00:16:51,080 --> 00:16:52,680 Speaker 1: my almonds? And I was like, okay, you could have 381 00:16:52,760 --> 00:16:53,840 Speaker 1: just asked nicely. 382 00:16:54,200 --> 00:16:56,360 Speaker 3: That's crazy yelling at me. 383 00:16:56,440 --> 00:16:59,560 Speaker 1: I was like, I'm just a child child that I 384 00:16:59,560 --> 00:17:01,720 Speaker 1: felt like, I don't know any better. 385 00:17:02,040 --> 00:17:04,119 Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't understand why people get so mad at 386 00:17:04,160 --> 00:17:05,040 Speaker 3: fast food restaurant. 387 00:17:05,119 --> 00:17:05,359 Speaker 2: I know. 388 00:17:05,440 --> 00:17:08,560 Speaker 1: I'm like, dude, I get paid fifteen dollars an hour 389 00:17:09,440 --> 00:17:12,040 Speaker 1: not to be yelled at for not putting almonds in 390 00:17:12,080 --> 00:17:13,719 Speaker 1: your bag when you can just literally get them. 391 00:17:13,840 --> 00:17:16,159 Speaker 3: If I get the complete wrong order, I'll probably be 392 00:17:16,240 --> 00:17:17,560 Speaker 3: like upset, but I'm still gonna eat it. 393 00:17:17,640 --> 00:17:20,840 Speaker 1: The only times I ever like asked, like bring up 394 00:17:20,880 --> 00:17:22,560 Speaker 1: that I got the wrong order is if I can't 395 00:17:22,560 --> 00:17:25,280 Speaker 1: eat it, you know, because like I can't. I usually 396 00:17:25,320 --> 00:17:27,680 Speaker 1: try to get almond milk because every other milk hurts 397 00:17:27,680 --> 00:17:32,200 Speaker 1: my stomach, So I'll bring up that. Sometimes sometimes I'll 398 00:17:32,200 --> 00:17:34,480 Speaker 1: just push through it. And if it's like, you know, 399 00:17:34,520 --> 00:17:37,159 Speaker 1: there's meat in my order and that. Yeah, those are 400 00:17:37,480 --> 00:17:39,879 Speaker 1: really the only times I bring up stuff because I'm like, 401 00:17:39,920 --> 00:17:42,840 Speaker 1: they don't they don't get paid enough to deal with us. 402 00:17:43,280 --> 00:17:44,159 Speaker 1: Well that's a wrap. 403 00:17:44,440 --> 00:17:46,480 Speaker 3: If you love us, make sure to subscribe. 404 00:17:46,520 --> 00:17:48,800 Speaker 1: We love you and see you tomorrow. 405 00:17:50,640 --> 00:17:53,080 Speaker 2: This is an episode from Deep within the Archives. Time 406 00:17:53,119 --> 00:17:59,199 Speaker 2: for okop relam. I'm ready to lave my sister and 407 00:17:59,200 --> 00:18:02,360 Speaker 2: her kids homeless. And here is why. Hey, there better 408 00:18:02,480 --> 00:18:06,440 Speaker 2: be a fucking good reason. You know, she left out 409 00:18:06,800 --> 00:18:09,080 Speaker 2: that she left the cereal box open, she forgot to 410 00:18:09,119 --> 00:18:12,560 Speaker 2: stack the dishwasher. That is that is worthy of kicking 411 00:18:12,600 --> 00:18:14,080 Speaker 2: your own flesh and blood to the streets. 412 00:18:14,119 --> 00:18:17,480 Speaker 5: I agree, I agree. I'd say ritual sacrifice at that point. 413 00:18:17,280 --> 00:18:19,240 Speaker 2: You know, just get her out of here and off 414 00:18:19,240 --> 00:18:27,119 Speaker 2: with her temple, rip out their heart. I forgot the 415 00:18:27,200 --> 00:18:30,320 Speaker 2: villain from Ratitui and Harby are your top two impressions? 416 00:18:30,400 --> 00:18:31,440 Speaker 2: Absolutely crush those. 417 00:18:32,400 --> 00:18:35,320 Speaker 5: I'll see if I can gain some more yeah, Mi Pokemon. 418 00:18:35,560 --> 00:18:37,960 Speaker 2: I forty four mail am a single father to a 419 00:18:38,000 --> 00:18:40,320 Speaker 2: fourteen year old daughter. I've raised her on my own 420 00:18:40,480 --> 00:18:43,480 Speaker 2: since her mother passed away ten years ago. Since the beginning, 421 00:18:43,600 --> 00:18:46,280 Speaker 2: I was not a fan of being a strict father. 422 00:18:46,520 --> 00:18:48,639 Speaker 2: I came from a household like that, and all it 423 00:18:48,640 --> 00:18:51,959 Speaker 2: did was give me a miserable childhood, a strained relationship 424 00:18:51,960 --> 00:18:54,400 Speaker 2: with my parents, and a corrap ton of therapy. 425 00:18:54,640 --> 00:18:56,360 Speaker 5: I had strict parents, but I think it turned out 426 00:18:56,400 --> 00:18:57,120 Speaker 5: pretty well. 427 00:18:57,359 --> 00:19:00,440 Speaker 2: More within reason. I feel like your parents. It's also 428 00:19:00,520 --> 00:19:00,920 Speaker 2: not like. 429 00:19:01,040 --> 00:19:03,399 Speaker 5: They didn't let me have sleepovers after. 430 00:19:04,119 --> 00:19:07,159 Speaker 2: That's a little bit able school to me, but you know, 431 00:19:07,320 --> 00:19:07,800 Speaker 2: don't hurt me. 432 00:19:07,840 --> 00:19:11,080 Speaker 5: I wasn't allowed to watch rated R movies until I 433 00:19:11,119 --> 00:19:11,600 Speaker 5: was eighteen. 434 00:19:11,720 --> 00:19:13,800 Speaker 2: He's gonna keep going what else? 435 00:19:14,200 --> 00:19:17,600 Speaker 5: I wasn't allowed to watch television ever? 436 00:19:20,119 --> 00:19:24,680 Speaker 2: For the somberness in your voice is just piercing right now. 437 00:19:25,000 --> 00:19:29,400 Speaker 5: All of my friends were scared of my parents. 438 00:19:29,800 --> 00:19:31,760 Speaker 2: Was it more your mom or more your dad that 439 00:19:31,840 --> 00:19:32,520 Speaker 2: they were scared of? 440 00:19:32,760 --> 00:19:32,879 Speaker 1: No? 441 00:19:32,760 --> 00:19:34,919 Speaker 2: No, no, like that that kind of set this like 442 00:19:35,000 --> 00:19:35,560 Speaker 2: super strict. 443 00:19:35,600 --> 00:19:39,400 Speaker 5: So I've said this like to other friends before. What 444 00:19:39,480 --> 00:19:43,520 Speaker 5: was great about my parents growing up? And I love 445 00:19:43,600 --> 00:19:46,679 Speaker 5: my parents, but in terms of strictness. They were strict 446 00:19:46,680 --> 00:19:49,920 Speaker 5: about completely different things. So between the two of them, 447 00:19:50,600 --> 00:19:53,560 Speaker 5: they encompassed being strict about everything in life. 448 00:19:53,680 --> 00:19:58,240 Speaker 2: Right, that is very unfortunate. Yeah, I'm so sorry. So 449 00:19:58,320 --> 00:20:00,960 Speaker 2: like kids chosen stuff like don't the references and like. 450 00:20:01,000 --> 00:20:03,879 Speaker 5: No, no, I I again. I think I told you 451 00:20:03,880 --> 00:20:06,080 Speaker 5: this before. Maybe I don't know if I did, But 452 00:20:06,240 --> 00:20:10,760 Speaker 5: like in fourth grade, UH, my teacher had a parent 453 00:20:10,800 --> 00:20:16,080 Speaker 5: teacher conference with my parents. It was like, hey, Sam's 454 00:20:16,119 --> 00:20:18,879 Speaker 5: weird as fuck. It doesn't get any of the references 455 00:20:18,920 --> 00:20:22,280 Speaker 5: the kids are talking about, like for his social sanity. 456 00:20:22,920 --> 00:20:24,600 Speaker 5: Can you please get him at television? 457 00:20:24,920 --> 00:20:27,800 Speaker 2: Wow, I don't. I don't know if I'm I'm impressed 458 00:20:27,960 --> 00:20:31,000 Speaker 2: or not about that from the teacher. 459 00:20:31,200 --> 00:20:33,000 Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm like, I'm like the you know, like in 460 00:20:33,359 --> 00:20:35,760 Speaker 5: Mean Girls where the girl comes from Africa and she's like, 461 00:20:35,920 --> 00:20:39,600 Speaker 5: I doesn't know anything. That's basically Sam's basically from Africa. 462 00:20:39,680 --> 00:20:44,040 Speaker 5: Basically from my one of my one of my my 463 00:20:44,720 --> 00:20:50,879 Speaker 5: teachers in uh in high school would always pronounce Africa Africa. 464 00:20:51,400 --> 00:20:52,120 Speaker 2: That is strange. 465 00:20:52,320 --> 00:20:55,760 Speaker 5: Is that like how it's pronounced. I do not think 466 00:20:55,800 --> 00:21:01,040 Speaker 5: so Africa Africa like that? 467 00:21:01,040 --> 00:21:04,720 Speaker 2: That is very strange. I've never heard of that pronunciation 468 00:21:04,920 --> 00:21:07,240 Speaker 2: in my life. Okay, but what do we know? But 469 00:21:07,359 --> 00:21:11,320 Speaker 2: what do we know? Everything? Now, two weeks ago, my 470 00:21:11,400 --> 00:21:14,159 Speaker 2: sister's house got flooded and they found out that the 471 00:21:14,240 --> 00:21:17,159 Speaker 2: foundation rotted. I offered to let them move into my 472 00:21:17,240 --> 00:21:23,160 Speaker 2: finished basement with a separate entrance. So right now, her husband, 473 00:21:23,359 --> 00:21:27,200 Speaker 2: three sons sixteen thirteen to nine, and her are all 474 00:21:27,240 --> 00:21:30,959 Speaker 2: living in my three bedroom house of basements. 475 00:21:30,680 --> 00:21:33,080 Speaker 5: And they're chained to the fucking floor. 476 00:21:33,240 --> 00:21:35,919 Speaker 2: They're just like, please let us out. Usually they have 477 00:21:36,040 --> 00:21:38,520 Speaker 2: their life and we have hours, but we hang out 478 00:21:38,600 --> 00:21:42,359 Speaker 2: a couple of hours every day. Now that's where the 479 00:21:42,440 --> 00:21:45,879 Speaker 2: trouble started, all right. Like I said, I don't have 480 00:21:45,960 --> 00:21:48,600 Speaker 2: too many rules for my daughter. As long as I 481 00:21:48,640 --> 00:21:50,800 Speaker 2: know where she is and she's back by nine, she's 482 00:21:50,840 --> 00:21:53,439 Speaker 2: free to go wherever within limits. Of course, I do 483 00:21:53,520 --> 00:21:56,000 Speaker 2: not control what she wears or her makeup, as long 484 00:21:56,000 --> 00:21:58,399 Speaker 2: as she follows to school dress code and of course 485 00:21:58,520 --> 00:22:02,080 Speaker 2: dresses appropriately on special occasions. She doesn't have a bedtime. 486 00:22:02,320 --> 00:22:04,360 Speaker 2: I do not check in if she's done her homework 487 00:22:04,480 --> 00:22:06,199 Speaker 2: and she has a lock on her door, and I 488 00:22:06,240 --> 00:22:09,000 Speaker 2: ask for permission before going in if she doesn't like 489 00:22:09,040 --> 00:22:10,960 Speaker 2: what I plan for a meal. She's free to either 490 00:22:10,960 --> 00:22:14,280 Speaker 2: cook something else or to order takeout, as long as 491 00:22:14,320 --> 00:22:16,640 Speaker 2: she uses her own money twice a week. I think 492 00:22:16,640 --> 00:22:18,359 Speaker 2: that's okay. So this is like, I feel like this 493 00:22:18,400 --> 00:22:21,760 Speaker 2: is a really nice guard rail of there's structure there, 494 00:22:22,160 --> 00:22:26,760 Speaker 2: but she has enough freedom movement to kind of operate independently, 495 00:22:26,800 --> 00:22:29,720 Speaker 2: which is actually great. Now, these rules are a result 496 00:22:29,840 --> 00:22:32,639 Speaker 2: of me having a good kid, her earning my trust, 497 00:22:32,920 --> 00:22:35,360 Speaker 2: and me wanting her to grow up as independent as 498 00:22:35,440 --> 00:22:38,680 Speaker 2: possible while learning to self regulate and keep safety in mind. 499 00:22:39,200 --> 00:22:42,040 Speaker 2: Kind of sounds like great parenting to me in all honesty. 500 00:22:42,240 --> 00:22:46,040 Speaker 2: My sister, on the other hand, is very strict. Oh no, 501 00:22:46,359 --> 00:22:48,760 Speaker 2: want to eat too bad? No, I'm just kidding. She 502 00:22:48,800 --> 00:22:51,239 Speaker 2: has her kids on a set routine. They are not 503 00:22:51,320 --> 00:22:55,520 Speaker 2: allowed to have closed doors except while changing. That's what 504 00:22:55,560 --> 00:23:01,960 Speaker 2: my parents had. Really wow, okay, but but the door, 505 00:23:02,840 --> 00:23:05,160 Speaker 2: like closing the door for the night to go to sleep. 506 00:23:05,480 --> 00:23:07,680 Speaker 5: They I mean they could, but like they could bust 507 00:23:07,680 --> 00:23:08,560 Speaker 5: in at any time the. 508 00:23:08,520 --> 00:23:11,240 Speaker 2: Door was unlocked at a locked doors, that's I mean, 509 00:23:11,240 --> 00:23:14,199 Speaker 2: that's different than like, uh, the door has to be 510 00:23:14,400 --> 00:23:17,320 Speaker 2: open at all times. Fair, well you know that. Yeah, 511 00:23:17,320 --> 00:23:22,199 Speaker 2: that's still that's still kind of crazy. I'm praying his 512 00:23:22,280 --> 00:23:23,080 Speaker 2: parents don't hear this. 513 00:23:24,119 --> 00:23:28,000 Speaker 5: Hates this show, so she'll never listen. 514 00:23:28,400 --> 00:23:32,000 Speaker 2: All right. She checks their electronics all the time. They're 515 00:23:32,080 --> 00:23:35,159 Speaker 2: rarely allowed to go anywhere. They eat what she cooked, 516 00:23:35,320 --> 00:23:38,680 Speaker 2: or they starve if she allows them to eat what 517 00:23:38,720 --> 00:23:41,119 Speaker 2: she made. That is. And she's so on top of 518 00:23:41,160 --> 00:23:44,120 Speaker 2: their schooling that I feel bad for the teachers. She's 519 00:23:44,200 --> 00:23:46,760 Speaker 2: always emailing them, calling them, or even just going to 520 00:23:46,760 --> 00:23:49,200 Speaker 2: the school to bother them. They do not get any 521 00:23:49,240 --> 00:23:51,720 Speaker 2: pocket money, they're not allowed to work, and even the 522 00:23:51,720 --> 00:23:54,400 Speaker 2: sixteen year old has to go to bed at nine 523 00:23:54,440 --> 00:23:56,800 Speaker 2: on weekdays and ten on weekends. Yo. 524 00:23:56,880 --> 00:24:03,320 Speaker 5: I had to be backed by like nine on weekends. Yeah, 525 00:24:03,400 --> 00:24:05,200 Speaker 5: that's I wasn't allowed anywhere. 526 00:24:07,320 --> 00:24:10,480 Speaker 2: Wow, that's so interesting. That's very interesting that you turned 527 00:24:10,520 --> 00:24:14,879 Speaker 2: out as you given those like very strict Zia went 528 00:24:15,000 --> 00:24:19,240 Speaker 2: wild in college. Oh yeah, wild wild, wild boy. That's 529 00:24:19,280 --> 00:24:22,040 Speaker 2: what you do. That's what you do, Yo, no guardrails. 530 00:24:22,080 --> 00:24:25,879 Speaker 2: I'm gonna fucking explode now. I do not agree with 531 00:24:25,920 --> 00:24:28,520 Speaker 2: her parenting style, but I keep my opinions to myself. 532 00:24:28,960 --> 00:24:33,600 Speaker 2: But now, Sam, yes, she is demanding that I give 533 00:24:33,680 --> 00:24:37,520 Speaker 2: my daughter more rules. What dude, it's not your kid. 534 00:24:38,119 --> 00:24:41,040 Speaker 2: That's what you ask. But here's the thing, because her 535 00:24:41,160 --> 00:24:45,840 Speaker 2: kids are comparing themselves to their cousin and now they're rebelling. 536 00:24:47,320 --> 00:24:50,200 Speaker 5: Yeah makes sense, makes sense. I understand why the mom 537 00:24:50,280 --> 00:24:54,000 Speaker 5: is pissed. But if I had a cousin living with 538 00:24:54,080 --> 00:24:57,680 Speaker 5: me during what like during high school that was totally free, 539 00:24:58,200 --> 00:25:00,439 Speaker 5: I would be like, what the fuck? Yeah, You'd be like, 540 00:25:00,480 --> 00:25:02,840 Speaker 5: it's one thing to like have your friends have completely 541 00:25:02,840 --> 00:25:06,119 Speaker 5: different like schedules, but have family living with you have 542 00:25:06,240 --> 00:25:09,200 Speaker 5: completely different schedules. It's and and maybe some of them 543 00:25:09,200 --> 00:25:12,040 Speaker 5: being younger than you and having more lax rules. I 544 00:25:12,040 --> 00:25:15,960 Speaker 5: would be like, yo, Jimmy is ten years old and 545 00:25:16,000 --> 00:25:18,639 Speaker 5: he has a later bedtime than me. 546 00:25:20,080 --> 00:25:20,879 Speaker 2: That would be watched. 547 00:25:20,920 --> 00:25:24,040 Speaker 5: Jimmy's ten years old and could watch rated our movies. 548 00:25:24,280 --> 00:25:27,800 Speaker 2: Ooh, we should have we should go back and we 549 00:25:27,800 --> 00:25:30,480 Speaker 2: should build a time machine, go back in time and 550 00:25:30,520 --> 00:25:36,080 Speaker 2: then like flood your your relative's basement exactly forced them 551 00:25:36,080 --> 00:25:37,639 Speaker 2: to move in with you, and then. 552 00:25:37,720 --> 00:25:39,920 Speaker 5: And see what happens. I wasn't allowed to watch it 553 00:25:40,000 --> 00:25:41,720 Speaker 5: rated our movie until eighteen John. 554 00:25:42,640 --> 00:25:45,359 Speaker 2: I was like, so so for me, like it was 555 00:25:45,440 --> 00:25:49,440 Speaker 2: that way, and then it kind of just loosely unraveled 556 00:25:49,520 --> 00:25:53,000 Speaker 2: as we got like pretty much in high school, it 557 00:25:53,200 --> 00:25:55,880 Speaker 2: like they set standards that were like, but your body 558 00:25:55,920 --> 00:25:59,800 Speaker 2: didn't even swear. No, no, they was she but she 559 00:25:59,880 --> 00:26:03,439 Speaker 2: was and strict. I mean they didn't want me like 560 00:26:03,760 --> 00:26:08,080 Speaker 2: m games, no even tea like rated games. But it 561 00:26:08,160 --> 00:26:13,760 Speaker 2: was less. It was less explicitly stated, and and they 562 00:26:13,760 --> 00:26:16,280 Speaker 2: would state stuff. But then as gradually as we kind 563 00:26:16,280 --> 00:26:18,760 Speaker 2: of got older, they started to unravel. And by the 564 00:26:18,800 --> 00:26:22,000 Speaker 2: time I was a senior in high school, like but 565 00:26:22,119 --> 00:26:23,960 Speaker 2: also I was like, I didn't drink, I didn't do 566 00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:26,440 Speaker 2: I didn't do anything, so I would. 567 00:26:26,240 --> 00:26:30,359 Speaker 6: Get do anything either, So I didn't do So I 568 00:26:30,400 --> 00:26:33,720 Speaker 6: did do sh bro and my I would like be 569 00:26:33,840 --> 00:26:37,879 Speaker 6: coming home from like swim practice, right, and like there 570 00:26:37,880 --> 00:26:40,879 Speaker 6: would be like chlorine in the pool, so my eyes 571 00:26:40,920 --> 00:26:41,520 Speaker 6: would be red. 572 00:26:41,600 --> 00:26:41,800 Speaker 3: Yeah. 573 00:26:42,240 --> 00:26:46,679 Speaker 5: I would come home at like seven after having been 574 00:26:46,760 --> 00:26:49,040 Speaker 5: swimming for two hours, and the like, why your eyes 575 00:26:49,080 --> 00:26:49,480 Speaker 5: so red? 576 00:26:49,520 --> 00:26:49,800 Speaker 2: Sam? 577 00:26:49,880 --> 00:26:53,800 Speaker 6: What do I'm like, Bro, I've been swimming in the 578 00:26:53,880 --> 00:26:58,640 Speaker 6: pool with chlorine. You picked me up from swim. 579 00:26:58,320 --> 00:27:03,159 Speaker 2: Practice, Guys, I'd like I'd like to announce our latest podcasts, 580 00:27:03,440 --> 00:27:08,360 Speaker 2: dissecting Sam's child to trauma, called Unleashing Sam, the story 581 00:27:08,640 --> 00:27:12,840 Speaker 2: of a boy who couldn't stay out past nine pm. 582 00:27:13,560 --> 00:27:16,200 Speaker 2: I was like locked into my freaking room. 583 00:27:16,320 --> 00:27:22,120 Speaker 5: Wow, Rapunzel, what would you do like TV study? 584 00:27:23,240 --> 00:27:25,560 Speaker 2: I would do Latin till like two am. 585 00:27:25,760 --> 00:27:29,359 Speaker 5: What a waste, What an absolute waste I would I 586 00:27:29,359 --> 00:27:31,480 Speaker 5: didn't go to a party until college. 587 00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:34,199 Speaker 2: I also did I go to I went to like 588 00:27:34,240 --> 00:27:37,360 Speaker 2: friends stuff. I get very lucky, John, I get it. 589 00:27:38,840 --> 00:27:39,880 Speaker 2: This is so funny. 590 00:27:40,080 --> 00:27:43,280 Speaker 6: Man went to prom with hooking up with the girl 591 00:27:43,520 --> 00:27:50,399 Speaker 6: the same though. Actually, get you went on eight dates 592 00:27:50,440 --> 00:27:52,040 Speaker 6: while making out with some other girl. 593 00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:55,280 Speaker 2: You know that I did do that. That's that's accurate. 594 00:27:56,080 --> 00:27:58,040 Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, that's I was getting home at like 595 00:27:58,480 --> 00:28:02,240 Speaker 2: four am by the time. I was like, I do 596 00:28:02,240 --> 00:28:05,440 Speaker 2: just rub it in my face. I'm sorry, I'm so sorry. 597 00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:10,360 Speaker 2: I'm so so so so sorry. Anyways, well, we'll put 598 00:28:10,400 --> 00:28:12,640 Speaker 2: Sam's trauma in a box over there and get back 599 00:28:12,680 --> 00:28:18,399 Speaker 2: with this story here. That's what I've done over so. 600 00:28:18,440 --> 00:28:21,200 Speaker 2: I told her straight to her face. She either keeps 601 00:28:21,240 --> 00:28:24,640 Speaker 2: her opinion to herself and parents her kids at least 602 00:28:24,680 --> 00:28:27,600 Speaker 2: my daughter to me, or she's free to live on 603 00:28:27,640 --> 00:28:28,240 Speaker 2: the streets. 604 00:28:28,600 --> 00:28:31,840 Speaker 5: Yeah, get out of my basement, bitch, Get out of here, 605 00:28:31,960 --> 00:28:32,600 Speaker 5: Get out of here. 606 00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:36,040 Speaker 2: She says that I'm the a hole because I don't 607 00:28:36,080 --> 00:28:39,960 Speaker 2: know how my lax parenting style is only adding more 608 00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:43,600 Speaker 2: stress to her already stressful life and threatening her with 609 00:28:43,720 --> 00:28:48,440 Speaker 2: homelessness is a low blow. So am I the a hole? 610 00:28:48,720 --> 00:28:51,720 Speaker 2: And there's a slight edit. Okay, my sister and her family, No, 611 00:28:51,760 --> 00:28:54,240 Speaker 2: they're not supposed to go to the second floor without permission. 612 00:28:54,520 --> 00:28:57,400 Speaker 2: That's where me and my daughter live. Well, my nephews 613 00:28:57,400 --> 00:28:59,440 Speaker 2: started to go there and hang out with my cousin 614 00:28:59,480 --> 00:29:02,440 Speaker 2: in her room boom without their mother being able to 615 00:29:02,520 --> 00:29:05,760 Speaker 2: get to them. And when she does, my daughter's door 616 00:29:05,800 --> 00:29:08,840 Speaker 2: is usually locked and she has to wait for her 617 00:29:08,880 --> 00:29:12,400 Speaker 2: to open it. She's convinced that they're hiding something in 618 00:29:12,520 --> 00:29:17,440 Speaker 2: my daughter's room. They're vaping and doing drugs. The jewels, yeah, 619 00:29:17,680 --> 00:29:19,640 Speaker 2: to be fair, they could be jeweling. They could be 620 00:29:20,400 --> 00:29:23,880 Speaker 2: jewel epidemic. All they are doing is having some freedom 621 00:29:23,920 --> 00:29:27,920 Speaker 2: and privacy away from her constant monitoring. So Sam as 622 00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:33,960 Speaker 2: the resident strict parent victim as our resident expert on 623 00:29:34,240 --> 00:29:38,600 Speaker 2: trauma from from strict parents. To be completely clear, I 624 00:29:38,600 --> 00:29:45,200 Speaker 2: had a great childhood. Sam had a traumatic, trauma filled childhood. 625 00:29:45,400 --> 00:29:47,360 Speaker 2: I love my parents a lot. They were just they 626 00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:50,920 Speaker 2: were just unreasonably. He is secretly crying for help. It 627 00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:53,080 Speaker 2: is his coded language. Now I'm just kidding. He does 628 00:29:53,080 --> 00:29:54,360 Speaker 2: love his parents and parents, and his parents. 629 00:29:54,240 --> 00:29:58,240 Speaker 5: Are My parents are awesome, but like I mean I 630 00:29:58,240 --> 00:30:00,680 Speaker 5: could see my mom being mad about something like this, 631 00:30:00,800 --> 00:30:02,960 Speaker 5: or my dad, especially my dad was like a no, 632 00:30:02,960 --> 00:30:04,200 Speaker 5: no locks kind of person. 633 00:30:04,560 --> 00:30:07,480 Speaker 2: So that's so what if they think about you now 634 00:30:07,560 --> 00:30:11,520 Speaker 2: like running around and oh they hate it? 635 00:30:11,560 --> 00:30:14,080 Speaker 5: So like so like like if I if I wasn't 636 00:30:14,200 --> 00:30:17,840 Speaker 5: like like like doing things in the world and being 637 00:30:17,920 --> 00:30:22,040 Speaker 5: like somewhat successful in my endeavors, I think they would 638 00:30:22,040 --> 00:30:24,880 Speaker 5: be a lot like more pissed. Yeah, but I think 639 00:30:24,920 --> 00:30:28,480 Speaker 5: because like like I think if you like achieve to 640 00:30:28,560 --> 00:30:32,480 Speaker 5: a high degree, then they're like they're not really worried. 641 00:30:32,520 --> 00:30:35,400 Speaker 5: But like I still I tell my parents everything. Yeah, 642 00:30:35,560 --> 00:30:39,720 Speaker 5: Like I tell them absolutely everything, and so I have 643 00:30:39,760 --> 00:30:43,560 Speaker 5: a very honest relationship with them. They just like don't 644 00:30:43,600 --> 00:30:45,040 Speaker 5: approve most of what I do. 645 00:30:45,200 --> 00:30:47,440 Speaker 2: Right, I honestly, I think that's the best way to 646 00:30:47,480 --> 00:30:49,840 Speaker 2: go about It's like, this is what it is. I'm 647 00:30:49,880 --> 00:30:52,040 Speaker 2: doing it. You live on your own, you're paying for yourself, 648 00:30:52,080 --> 00:30:54,200 Speaker 2: so there's like not much they can't do anything they 649 00:30:54,200 --> 00:30:56,440 Speaker 2: can do about it. Yeah, that's how I was. I 650 00:30:56,480 --> 00:31:00,640 Speaker 2: was like, I'm out of here, so what can you do? 651 00:31:00,920 --> 00:31:05,880 Speaker 2: Can't do shit? Mama, just kidding. I love my parents. 652 00:31:06,640 --> 00:31:10,200 Speaker 2: We both love our parents. Yeah, my dad did try 653 00:31:10,200 --> 00:31:11,960 Speaker 2: to make me sign a contract saying I would not 654 00:31:12,080 --> 00:31:13,040 Speaker 2: drop out of college. 655 00:31:14,200 --> 00:31:15,000 Speaker 5: How did that turn out? 656 00:31:15,160 --> 00:31:19,480 Speaker 2: I did that ship anyway, sucker. 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