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Speaker 1: It is Monday, August. This is Jaguars Happy Hour, Jaguars

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Speaker 1: Happy Hours pretended by Jet Home Loan. And now the

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Speaker 1: guy who was the originally scheduled to be last night's

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Speaker 1: shad Rick. I'm not aware of that reference, and welcome in.

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Speaker 1: It's Jaguars Happy Hour. It is Monday. I am J. P. Shadrick.

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Speaker 1: We've got a busy show. Of course. Pro Football of

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Speaker 1: Fame left tackle Tony Boselli is here. CBS Sports senior

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Speaker 1: writer Pete Briscoe down in South Florida. The roster cut

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Speaker 1: coming up this Tuesday. The fanatics fan questions in the

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Speaker 1: second hour. It will go around the National Football League

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Speaker 1: as we do each and every Monday. Tony, I was

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Speaker 1: going through the ratings book from last week and it

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Speaker 1: was almost an all time high last week. Yeah, it's

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Speaker 1: gonna take a hit today because the I was gonna

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Speaker 1: say a great one, but that wouldn't be accurate. That

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Speaker 1: would be accurate, That would accurate. PRIs goes back back

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Speaker 1: back where Sulta in New Orleans. Are those teams gonna

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Speaker 1: get to the playoffs? Yes, they are. Both of them

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Speaker 1: who who were they practicing against No. No, they were

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Speaker 1: both just having regular practices. Minnesota. I went to Minnesota

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Speaker 1: then the Saints. Uh, Minnesota's got a good team. They're

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Speaker 1: gonna score a ton of points if if they can

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Speaker 1: stop the run, they're gonna be good. Uh. And as

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Speaker 1: far as uh, New Orleans, New Orleans has a nasty defense. Nasty.

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Speaker 1: You know, it's just as a matter if Jamison turned

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Speaker 1: it over. But don't talk about the rating. The ratings

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Speaker 1: were lower than they've ever been last week. I got

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Speaker 1: my sources in Jacksonville. I know all about the ratings. Tony.

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Speaker 1: They plummeted when I wasn't there. You two were probably

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Speaker 1: given it nothing but two hours a happy talk. I

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Speaker 1: know how that plays. It was accurate talk, accurate, spot on.

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Speaker 1: That's what do people want. By the way I do,

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Speaker 1: I will relay this story from Minneapolis. There is a

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Speaker 1: guy that works up there now that used to work

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Speaker 1: in Jacksonville last year that told me that they would

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Speaker 1: have him monitor the show to see if I was

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Speaker 1: saying anything controversy. I have some questions about that, and

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Speaker 1: I think I know I know where it came from.

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Speaker 1: It came from down the hall. Who's not there anymore.

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Speaker 1: But it was it came from Urban and his crew

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Speaker 1: over there. Well, you were on your best behavior last year, Pete,

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Speaker 1: I must say, like like I told him, I said, look,

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Speaker 1: I fired the guy. Every every week, I'm gonna I

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Speaker 1: gotta deny that. And it was a pleasure every single

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Speaker 1: week to see the look on Tony Besselli's face because

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Speaker 1: he couldn't say it. Well, I wonder if they took

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Speaker 1: video samples or something. No, it was good. I mean, Pete,

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Speaker 1: you were I thought you were fair last year. I

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Speaker 1: mean it wasn't you would you never attacked you just come.

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Speaker 1: Wasn't a personal attack. It was just get him out

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Speaker 1: of there, and and uh, ultimately it happened. But yeah,

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Speaker 1: they were. It wasn't. Look I would never make a

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Speaker 1: personal attack on anybody ever. I just wouldn't do that. Now,

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Speaker 1: if you're gonna be an idiot as a coach and

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Speaker 1: do dumb things, then I will attack those. And I

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Speaker 1: attacked him right from the get go with the you know, hustle, hustle, hydrate, hydrate,

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Speaker 1: let's go, let's go team, Rob Ross's boom bah, and

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Speaker 1: the way he walked up and down the aisle in

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Speaker 1: the stretching, you know, the stretching lines with every coach,

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Speaker 1: all fifty two of them that he had. It just was,

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Speaker 1: it was all. It was all hoax, it was all garbage.

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Speaker 1: He's out, got a pro in there. Now move forward. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I was saying, the good news is we don't talk

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Speaker 1: about anymore. You think they're still monitoring the show? I

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Speaker 1: would if I was them, I'd be monitoring everything it

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Speaker 1: comes out of this. You know, out of Pete you

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Speaker 1: predicted a playoff record last year. Let's not forget that

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Speaker 1: earlier the season you thought they might be in the playoffs. No,

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Speaker 1: I know, first of all, last year, to be clear,

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Speaker 1: I said they'd win between four and six games. You

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Speaker 1: said between three and five. But early in preseason, before

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Speaker 1: we saw it was going on. Remember JP, there was

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Speaker 1: some hint eight nine somewhere in that ballpark. I remember clearly. Sure,

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Speaker 1: you guys have great memories. Are we gonna wait till

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Speaker 1: Labor Day Night show and there will be nothing else

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Speaker 1: be in New York, Pete at the US Open. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: the story has changed. Two weeks ago you said you're

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Speaker 1: going to Colorado your cousins, wife's birthday and Monday, and

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Speaker 1: Let me meet and I'll be in Colorado Friday. Story straight.

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Speaker 1: I'll be in Colorado Friday, Saturday, Sunday morning, I fly

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Speaker 1: New York. Amazing. So you're gonna be there all weekend

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Speaker 1: and you're gonna have a weekend in New York. Then well,

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Speaker 1: I mean if you consider Sunday and Monday the whole weekend. Sure,

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Speaker 1: Oh you're not getting there until Sunday. Okay. Still that's

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Speaker 1: a good, good little trip. Take your wife up, go

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Speaker 1: see you before the match? On the on the court

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Speaker 1: Hall of Fame? Tackle Tony here one more time? All

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Speaker 1: we gotta hear it every time he introduced the show.

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Speaker 1: So there's Pete Prescotland Hall of a Tackle Tonelli. Should

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Speaker 1: I should I wear the gold jacket? Because in New

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Speaker 1: York they might take it from you down Second Avenue

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Speaker 1: with that? Hey hey, Tony, you too? You were off

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Speaker 1: So Pete was off list past week on this show,

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Speaker 1: Tony you, I don't know if you know this, Pete.

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Speaker 1: He didn't do the game on Saturday in Atlanta. I

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Speaker 1: just fine. If you went to see your son plays

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Speaker 1: to Frangie was thrilled because they could actually get some

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Speaker 1: Logman and guess who tagged along for a freebie? That

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Speaker 1: I felt guilty. He was somewhere really expensive to take advantage.

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Speaker 1: chateau Chateau elan up Um about an hour about an

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Speaker 1: five excuse me, northeast because it's by Flowery Branch, ten

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Speaker 1: you go to Flowery Branch for a couple of days

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Speaker 1: I went to watch practice, Um, put time in. It's work,

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Speaker 1: you like from practice, Tony? What stood out to you

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Speaker 1: the most? We're watching the tackles and they were rotating.

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Speaker 1: it's good to see another team, right, yeah, I thought, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I don't know how good Atlanta is. I mean, I

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Speaker 1: like Trevor had a really good practice. Couples of that

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Speaker 1: But yeah, it wasn't it was tentative. Is good. It

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Speaker 1: his range um, all good things, you know. I expect him.

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Speaker 1: You know, he needed the reps, he needed the time

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Speaker 1: I'm trying to think who else would you like to see?

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Speaker 1: Like I, I what was surprised? I didn't play Muma

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Speaker 1: handful guy's pete, But I'm not sure how much it matters. No,

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Speaker 1: He's not long littal, he's little, he's not long enough.

421
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Speaker 1: That's physical. That's all part of it. You gotta be physical.

422
00:23:45,160 --> 00:23:47,679
Speaker 1: He's not the physical. He doesn't fit the bill. So

423
00:23:48,400 --> 00:23:50,760
Speaker 1: and Bart hasn't taken the job and run with it.

424
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Speaker 1: So you put this kid in there and you play

425
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Speaker 1: him at left guard. Well, I mean, BArch is gonna

426
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Speaker 1: be your starting left guard opening day. I think they

427
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Speaker 1: showed with that if they don't hesitate the Yankee guy

428
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Speaker 1: out of there though. No, but that was over a

429
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Speaker 1: period of time. I mean you asked the coaches that

430
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Speaker 1: they'll tell you that Ben Barts went and took the

431
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Speaker 1: job from Shatley. He was better than Shatley in camp,

432
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Speaker 1: and they let that play out for they did two

433
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Speaker 1: or three weeks. By the way, here's a couple other

434
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Speaker 1: running backs I was thinking about. Possibly. You tell me,

435
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Speaker 1: would you make a deal? Would you when you're interested?

436
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Speaker 1: Ronald Jones, wait round pick Yes, Miles Gaskin, who's he with?

437
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Speaker 1: Miami led the team in rushing last year, Yeah, Sony Michelle, Yes, Okay,

438
00:24:41,160 --> 00:24:45,320
Speaker 1: Miami's gonna cut one of those guys, and one of

439
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Speaker 1: those I tell I mean Andy, like, here's the thing

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Speaker 1: to your first in the waiver list. Hey, Pete, real

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Speaker 1: quick before we're going further, because we were just talking

442
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Speaker 1: about some people got waives, some got released. Tell the difference.

443
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Speaker 1: If you're a vested veteran, you get released and you're

444
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Speaker 1: you're you're not subject to the waivers. That's the way

445
00:25:01,680 --> 00:25:08,360
Speaker 1: it works. Yeah, but only in UM, only before opening day.

446
00:25:08,480 --> 00:25:11,840
Speaker 1: After opening day, everyone goes through the waiver process, correct, right,

447
00:25:12,080 --> 00:25:15,240
Speaker 1: So yeah, so you're you're he's like anybody now is

448
00:25:15,280 --> 00:25:18,359
Speaker 1: subject to waivers as as a kid. So but yeah,

449
00:25:18,480 --> 00:25:22,440
Speaker 1: but like Sony Michelle, that's that'd be a good guy

450
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Speaker 1: to look into. But Tony Michelle, Ronald Jones, and Gasking

451
00:25:26,320 --> 00:25:28,679
Speaker 1: all of them would be released, not waived, so they

452
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Speaker 1: can go anywhere they will, right right, I would take

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Speaker 1: I would take of those three. You want? You want

454
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Speaker 1: a more physical Gasking runs tough and hard. I think

455
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Speaker 1: he's a tough go watch Ronald Jones run between the tackles. Yeah,

456
00:25:41,880 --> 00:25:44,000
Speaker 1: something's concerning about that, the fact that the Chiefs are

457
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Speaker 1: releasing it. If they do release him, let's come back

458
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Speaker 1: in a moment, a little defensive talk. It was a

459
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Speaker 1: nice conversation about the running backs. We're gonna flip it

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Speaker 1: over to defense. Flip it. We're flipping it when we

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Speaker 1: come back. Second hour. Oh, he's back with the peanut

462
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Speaker 1: butter crackers. Pete, you missed it last week. He was

463
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Speaker 1: eating crackers on the air. Oh no, crunching, crunching him

464
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Speaker 1: on the air. We had a five minute diet tribe

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Speaker 1: about peanut butter and all the positive aspects of it.

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Speaker 1: One thing was he chewing on the air? Yes or no? Yes?

467
00:26:16,800 --> 00:26:20,399
Speaker 1: Oh my god, how rude? Get that, h o F.

468
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Speaker 1: You can do whatever you want. We're back in a moment.

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Speaker 1: It's Jaguars Happy Hour on the Jaguars Digital Network. Came

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Speaker 1: out of the game perfectly fine, came out strong and healthy,

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Speaker 1: and we wanted to get him, you know, the first

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Speaker 1: quarter at least. I think he played almost the first half,

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Speaker 1: you know, twenty five or six snaps, and then did

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Speaker 1: did well, you know, did well obviously from from what

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Speaker 1: I can see. We'll watch the tape on the way home,

476
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Speaker 1: but um, yeah, you know, he looked good, played fast,

477
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Speaker 1: and I was that was good to see. Doug Peterson

478
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Speaker 1: after the game Saturday in Atlanta, discussing the first round

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Speaker 1: pick linebacker Devin Lloyd. Welcome back, It's Jaguars Happy Hour

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Speaker 1: on a Monday. JP Chadwick with the Hall of Famer

481
00:27:01,880 --> 00:27:06,800
Speaker 1: Tony Boselli and Pe Bristo. Well said J. P. Wilson.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, Devin Lloyd. We talked a little bit about

483
00:27:10,720 --> 00:27:15,040
Speaker 1: that was the only I guess projected starter to play

484
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Speaker 1: in the game because he started out you think so,

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Speaker 1: I don't know, what do you think, Pete? What do

486
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Speaker 1: you think? I mean? He should start? Would you? I

487
00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:28,080
Speaker 1: would start him? You drafted him to be a starter.

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Speaker 1: He was around all all spring, wasn't he and was

489
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Speaker 1: was running with the starters until he got hurt. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: he's the starter. I would start him to just let

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Speaker 1: him roll with it. Yeah, we have two more weeks,

492
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Speaker 1: not just hey, here's a here's some third down package

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Speaker 1: things for you start. Since he's he starts, Yeah, i'd

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Speaker 1: start him and and you uh or we called them

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00:27:54,119 --> 00:28:05,679
Speaker 1: mum mum, muma. Okay, you that if something were to

496
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Speaker 1: happen or you're you know, he's shaky or inconsistent or

497
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Speaker 1: blowing stuff, you can put in. But I would start

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Speaker 1: Devin Lloyd. You know what's funny when you watch the tape,

499
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Speaker 1: he doesn't how much do they list him at two

500
00:28:17,440 --> 00:28:23,959
Speaker 1: forty devn Lloyd on the official roster is listed at

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Speaker 1: two thirty five six ft three. He looks lean. That's

502
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Speaker 1: a lean yeah, well six three I guess that's all.

503
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Speaker 1: But I would start him get just get on with it.

504
00:28:36,320 --> 00:28:37,840
Speaker 1: He's your guy. You drafted him to be the starter.

505
00:28:37,960 --> 00:28:40,240
Speaker 1: He was the starter until he got hurt. Correct before

506
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Speaker 1: he pulled his hampring running with the ones all spring

507
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Speaker 1: and in on the O, T, A S and everything.

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Speaker 1: He starts. He did have to get lined up a

509
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Speaker 1: couple of times though. You could see that, and it

510
00:28:51,320 --> 00:28:53,880
Speaker 1: was Corterman was directing up a couple of different times,

511
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Speaker 1: and he looked like in some past coverages where he

512
00:28:56,440 --> 00:28:58,560
Speaker 1: was spitting around a little bit not sure where he

513
00:28:58,600 --> 00:29:04,880
Speaker 1: should be going. But first time, yeah, yeah, I don't. Yeah,

514
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Speaker 1: I expected that. But like Tony said, once he stops

515
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Speaker 1: thinking and just goes, you can see the athletic ability.

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Speaker 1: Where are you with the rest of the deep? Hey

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Speaker 1: real quick, hey, Pete, what about I was just reading

518
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Speaker 1: what do you? What do you think about Alexander Madison

519
00:29:23,560 --> 00:29:26,080
Speaker 1: Vikings are trading reyears up there. It looks like they

520
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Speaker 1: might be trying to trade him, Yeah, because they have

521
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Speaker 1: another kid. They really like a young back. But yeah,

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Speaker 1: I would, I would, that would be it. Yes, Yes,

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Speaker 1: he's a violent, tough, physical runner. Yes, I would make

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Speaker 1: I would give up a six for him, five, six, fifth.

525
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Speaker 1: Now you're moving up. I think he's a good back,

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Speaker 1: I really do. I think he He's exactly what you

527
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Speaker 1: talk about Tony. Put him in the fourth quarter and

528
00:29:52,040 --> 00:29:55,320
Speaker 1: bleed that clock. He runs tough. Yeah, I'm telling you.

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Speaker 1: If he I'm with you, Pete. If he's on the market,

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Speaker 1: if the Vikings are serious, I would definitely look and

531
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Speaker 1: inquire what it would it take to get him. You know,

532
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Speaker 1: you have to look at your cap because you know

533
00:30:08,360 --> 00:30:10,120
Speaker 1: it's not like the Jags have a bunch of cap room.

534
00:30:10,320 --> 00:30:14,680
Speaker 1: But he can't be making that much money. But I would,

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Speaker 1: I would trade for him. I gotta say, it is

536
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Speaker 1: nice to to talk about and even have the thought

537
00:30:21,200 --> 00:30:24,160
Speaker 1: in your mind of draining clock in a four minute drill.

538
00:30:24,520 --> 00:30:30,040
Speaker 1: This team's won what three games the last two years.

539
00:30:28,240 --> 00:30:32,440
Speaker 1: But I know it's the future focused now, I get that,

540
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Speaker 1: but it's just it's good to think about that. Well,

541
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Speaker 1: it's more that he's also another guy that between him

542
00:30:38,120 --> 00:30:39,880
Speaker 1: and James Robinson, you have your every day on back.

543
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Speaker 1: So now you can make Travis e t N is

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Speaker 1: that change of pace and space guy and create packages

545
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Speaker 1: for him. I mean, I would see a lot better

546
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Speaker 1: if your three backs going into a Sunday, we're a

547
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Speaker 1: guy like Madison Um and E. T. N And and

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Speaker 1: j Rob. Yeah, he became, he would be available because

549
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Speaker 1: that means that they would be going with the young group.

550
00:31:03,720 --> 00:31:06,240
Speaker 1: Because they would that means ty Chandler, who they drafted

551
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Speaker 1: this year has had a good preseason, would be their

552
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Speaker 1: third back because he he would move up. They'd move

553
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Speaker 1: the kid from what I was stayed up in the Iguana,

554
00:31:14,360 --> 00:31:16,160
Speaker 1: and then he'd be the third back, So that that

555
00:31:16,160 --> 00:31:18,240
Speaker 1: would be risky for the Vikings. I wouldn't do that

556
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Speaker 1: if I were them. I mean, why would you? That

557
00:31:22,840 --> 00:31:25,200
Speaker 1: book doesn't play a whole season. He doesn't, He hasn't

558
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Speaker 1: finished the season. I'm just saying what was reported on

559
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Speaker 1: Pro Football Talk. Yeah, I mean, look, if he's available,

560
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Speaker 1: I'm interested. If I'm the Jaguars, I'm interested. Would you

561
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Speaker 1: give up a six? It's definitely a SIXI I give

562
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Speaker 1: him a five for him. I'd probably give up a

563
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Speaker 1: five too, because look at the look at the who

564
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Speaker 1: are the fifth round picks this year? Are they gonna

565
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Speaker 1: make the team? The corner almost the corner just because

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Speaker 1: you make a team is a draft pick, doesn't mean

567
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Speaker 1: you deserve to make the team, well, especially on that

568
00:31:55,680 --> 00:32:02,960
Speaker 1: team sometimes the last couple of years. Um, I mean,

569
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Speaker 1: if you look, was it brown? Was Brown the fifth

570
00:32:06,360 --> 00:32:10,280
Speaker 1: round pick? No, he was the seventh man pulling it up?

571
00:32:10,880 --> 00:32:13,160
Speaker 1: I forget. But we'll do during We'll do a during break.

572
00:32:13,240 --> 00:32:15,120
Speaker 1: Let's go back to the defense. Sorry, I kind of

573
00:32:15,320 --> 00:32:17,200
Speaker 1: are we cutting the are you cutting the team? We're

574
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Speaker 1: gonna cut the team in the second hour of the show.

575
00:32:20,200 --> 00:32:22,080
Speaker 1: We're off to a good start because we already know

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Speaker 1: that they jumped the gun on us today. Yeah that Hey,

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Speaker 1: you know we mentioned Lloyd. But it seems like the

578
00:32:30,960 --> 00:32:33,800
Speaker 1: rest of the defense, the starters at least, are solidified.

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Speaker 1: I mean, that's that's a good place to be, right, Pete,

580
00:32:37,800 --> 00:32:42,480
Speaker 1: I was surprised that Jason didn't play, Pete. Does that

581
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Speaker 1: mean you're keeping him? What does that mean you might

582
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Speaker 1: try and trade him? I think I think Jason's I

583
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Speaker 1: think unless someone offers you something worth your while, like

584
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Speaker 1: what like Alexander Madison, Jason elevator Madison done. I mean,

585
00:33:05,520 --> 00:33:09,360
Speaker 1: here's the problem with Chason. You're admitting a major mistake. Now.

586
00:33:09,360 --> 00:33:11,800
Speaker 1: I know they weren't in that position, was there? But

587
00:33:12,080 --> 00:33:15,840
Speaker 1: it was well Trent was there? Was there? Yeah, I

588
00:33:15,840 --> 00:33:20,720
Speaker 1: guess he was. Yeah, Yeah, it's it's a mistake for him.

589
00:33:20,960 --> 00:33:23,880
Speaker 1: He was the assistant GM he was. You're right, So

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Speaker 1: would you keep him or would you keep forty? I

591
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Speaker 1: keep him, I keep chasing well, just for the attraction

592
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Speaker 1: of the I think he does more. I think he's

593
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Speaker 1: been I mean he I mean, Chason did pretty good

594
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Speaker 1: in the preseason. I mean he's active. Yeah, I think

595
00:33:41,680 --> 00:33:45,160
Speaker 1: he's getting better. Like my perspective with Chase on Pete

596
00:33:45,240 --> 00:33:47,120
Speaker 1: is forget about the fact that he was a first

597
00:33:47,200 --> 00:33:50,440
Speaker 1: round draft pick. Just erase that from your memory and

598
00:33:50,480 --> 00:33:53,720
Speaker 1: look at him as what he did in this preseason

599
00:33:53,840 --> 00:33:55,959
Speaker 1: and is he one of your best fifty three guys?

600
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Speaker 1: And in my opinion, he is, And so I don't

601
00:34:00,360 --> 00:34:03,320
Speaker 1: care that he was drafted or overdrafted as a first rounder.

602
00:34:03,840 --> 00:34:06,280
Speaker 1: The question now, and the only question you should be

603
00:34:06,320 --> 00:34:09,200
Speaker 1: asking yourself, if you're Doug in Trent, does he make

604
00:34:09,280 --> 00:34:12,480
Speaker 1: us better? Are we better with him or with Jamar

605
00:34:12,880 --> 00:34:20,680
Speaker 1: uh was James Jones Jones Jamar Jones number J Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Well you you're cheating. You got the I'm cheating I'm prepared,

607
00:34:24,480 --> 00:34:27,840
Speaker 1: is what I am. Yeah. I think that kid's a

608
00:34:27,920 --> 00:34:30,719
Speaker 1: physical player though, and I think don't you think you

609
00:34:30,719 --> 00:34:32,279
Speaker 1: can get him among the practice squad? P you can

610
00:34:32,320 --> 00:34:34,760
Speaker 1: sneak him through, get him on the practice squad probably

611
00:34:35,000 --> 00:34:37,040
Speaker 1: whereas Chase some would would wouldn't make it to the

612
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Speaker 1: practice So I I yes, he's on my fifty three.

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Speaker 1: By the way, Jar, if you had if you had

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Speaker 1: to pick between forty and forty seven, you'd pick forty though, Yes,

615
00:34:47,800 --> 00:34:53,680
Speaker 1: me too. Jaguar's fifth round pick, this you with Snoop Connor? Yeah,

616
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Speaker 1: you trade that for Alexander Mathison, wouldn't you? Right now? Okay,

617
00:35:00,320 --> 00:35:02,480
Speaker 1: my Kings, can I raise that to you right now?

618
00:35:02,520 --> 00:35:04,759
Speaker 1: You could have Snoop Connor just what we need another back.

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Speaker 1: He wouldn't make the team there. Sixth round pick was

620
00:35:08,200 --> 00:35:11,279
Speaker 1: Gregory Jr. From Watching a Baptist and then Montark Brown

621
00:35:11,480 --> 00:35:15,040
Speaker 1: from Arkansas the seventh rounder. So what is one of

622
00:35:15,040 --> 00:35:20,200
Speaker 1: those corners gonna stick? Well, Benji Franklin has already been waived.

623
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Speaker 1: He was another guy kind of competing with those two.

624
00:35:22,280 --> 00:35:25,520
Speaker 1: He was an undrafted guy. So you think one of

625
00:35:25,560 --> 00:35:28,920
Speaker 1: them would stick? Right? Coverage teams? Who are who are

626
00:35:28,960 --> 00:35:36,520
Speaker 1: your top four corners, it's Shack Griffin, Tyson, Campbell's, Williams

627
00:35:36,520 --> 00:35:40,200
Speaker 1: and Trey Herndon's. We have not seen Darius Williams. He

628
00:35:40,640 --> 00:35:43,239
Speaker 1: played last week or he didn't play. He's practiced last right,

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Speaker 1: but we haven't seen him the game. Right. He practiced

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Speaker 1: So what about who's the fifth corner? Clay Brooks? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think Clay Brooks special teams. He's the best gunner. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: so you keep him for special teams yep, yeah, to

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Speaker 1: How many you're keeping? Four safeties, which is uh Dewey, Um, Ciscos,

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Speaker 1: Jenkins and probably Thomas Thomas. Daniel Thomas's my guess. So

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Speaker 1: there's your force. How many because how many defense backs're

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Speaker 1: gonna keep? Nine or ten you'll keep? Yeah, you'll keep.

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Speaker 1: You gotta keep more. You gotta keep another corner at least,

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Speaker 1: So you need a fifth corner one of those two guys.

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Speaker 1: Who's it down to? Who the two guys? Because I

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Speaker 1: There's a big field of mud after the rain today,

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Speaker 1: we're told by training camp. They got a little work

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Speaker 1: they're doing a great job, no doubt about it. But

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Speaker 1: a lot of stuff. It looks like they've started pete

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Speaker 1: the grand stand area for about one seats or so

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Speaker 1: for training there. I don't see that on the left

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Speaker 1: on the side of the screen where the white where

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Speaker 1: that white thing is right there, I say it. So

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Speaker 1: that's exactly like the Dolphins facility. It's very close. Yes,

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Speaker 1: I think that saved them some time to take a

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Speaker 1: lot of the major design of that. Um. Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: actually I was at there for facility a couple of

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Speaker 1: last week. I went down there to watch the Eagles work. Um.

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Speaker 1: It was a day they were supposed to have a

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Speaker 1: joint practice in Miami. You think about that, Tony, Miami

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Speaker 1: they decided they were going to do their stuff virtually,

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Speaker 1: a practice got canceled because a couple of players at

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Speaker 1: his stomach. Bucky. I like, when I read that, I

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Speaker 1: was like, I've never heard like you know, would have

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Speaker 1: been like back and I played. Pete had been like, okay,

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Speaker 1: everyone out in the field, coach have a star, great,

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Speaker 1: go throw up. Just if you have to throw up,

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Speaker 1: go throw up in the corner and then get back

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Speaker 1: in the game. You got a portal that out here.

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Speaker 1: You can make it there if you have to. Hey, Pete,

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Speaker 1: A couple of Pete a couple of things. Um, JP

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Speaker 1: and I were talking in the break. The Dolphins just waved,

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Speaker 1: uh Sony Michelle, go get him so he's free. And

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Speaker 1: then also it's being reported that, um this is via Twitter.

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Speaker 1: You're digging deep, am I Football? Did you see it too?

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Speaker 1: Source says that Leviss Channault could be on the blocks

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Speaker 1: in the Houston Texans have shown the most interest so far.

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Speaker 1: What is the what's the handle on that? Am I

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Speaker 1: I think that that they want to try and get

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Speaker 1: something for him, and they would that's why that he

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Speaker 1: got the spot right now instead of treadwill. I wouldn't

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Speaker 1: be surprised if the Vikings didn't inquire, as I know,

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Speaker 1: I remember Keenan liked him when he was there. I

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Speaker 1: don't know if he could talk them into that, but

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Speaker 1: that would make some sense. They don't have a fifth receiver.

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Speaker 1: But the big thing is, I mean, I think you

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Speaker 1: gotta go kick the tires and Sony Michelle Um agree?

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Speaker 1: What what? What kind of camp did he have? Pete?

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Speaker 1: And Okay, he played a lot last week. I mean

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Speaker 1: it's it's just they have so many and that you know,

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Speaker 1: does you know that in forty scheme he went out

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Speaker 1: and he got Chase Edmonds, he went out and got Moster.

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Speaker 1: So those guys in Gasking had a good year last year,

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Speaker 1: and it was probably ran a little bit better. So

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Speaker 1: it's it's a numbers game. You can't keep them all.

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Speaker 1: I think that would make some sense. Take a look

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Speaker 1: at him. M What it costs? Um nothing? Nothing? Well, no,

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Speaker 1: I mean you'd have to pay the guy still makes

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Speaker 1: the team gets paid. I'm not gonna give a signing

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Speaker 1: botus guys on the street caution nothing might as well?

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Speaker 1: What else you gonna report over there? Told me, since

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Speaker 1: you're do you let me ask you this, would you

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Speaker 1: keep I mean, sergeant has run pretty well for them?

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Speaker 1: I thought, what you practice squad? Um? Yeah, I think so.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I mean, if I'm being just completely blunt

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Speaker 1: and honest, nobody behind et N and um and then

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Speaker 1: obviously James Robinson jumped out at me. But you keep

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Speaker 1: sometimes you keep it young back and and let them

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Speaker 1: develop for a year or something on a practice squad.

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Speaker 1: I'm with you. I did snoop Connor to me is like,

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Speaker 1: I don't know what he brings. His straight line runner

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Speaker 1: doesn't bring anything. Hm, would you agree tony straight line

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Speaker 1: runner not a lot of pop? Yeah? I just yeah,

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Speaker 1: nothing Again, there's not one thing that jumps out when

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Speaker 1: he gets the ball you're like, oh I like that,

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Speaker 1: or and you know he's a young back, so you

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Speaker 1: don't probably gonna have confidence to put him in there

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Speaker 1: because he has a bigger body. Could you put him

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Speaker 1: in there on third down? Or puts it? You know,

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Speaker 1: situations where you going to keep him in as a protector.

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Speaker 1: But typically, you know, coordinators don't have a lot of

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Speaker 1: confidence in those rookie running backs to be protecting their

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Speaker 1: prize possession. The franchise quarterback back there. So I'm with you, Pete.

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Speaker 1: I mean, my guess is he makes the roster because

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Speaker 1: he's a draft pick and they'll try to hope that

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Speaker 1: he develops. And Michelle Michelle is five eleven little. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: he runs hard, he's a physical about that's about what

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Speaker 1: James what's James Robinson listened at five eleven to I

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Speaker 1: don't think he's that he stole the roster from me

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Speaker 1: because he wanted all of a sudden press five nine.

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Speaker 1: I mean, here's here's Sony Michelle's stats ready for his

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Speaker 1: per per per year averages four five three seven five

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Speaker 1: seven four one eighteen touchdowns in four career in four years.

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Speaker 1: So it's not like he's been It was you know,

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Speaker 1: you average. He got nine yards in two of his

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Speaker 1: first season for seasons and then had eight forty five

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Speaker 1: last year for the Rams. I mean, I think he's

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Speaker 1: a he's a good back. I'm gonna saying he's great,

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Speaker 1: but he makes you better getting him. And he's only seven.

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Speaker 1: He doesn't has another year in running back years. He

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Speaker 1: doesn't have a lot of wear and tear. But I also, Pete,

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Speaker 1: don't you think it give you some like comfort if

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Speaker 1: James Robinson is not ready to carry the full load. Okay,

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Speaker 1: yes I do. So here's the question. Would you rather

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Speaker 1: sign Sony Michelle and not give up a pick or

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Speaker 1: give up a six for Madison? From six six, fifth

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Speaker 1: or six for Madison? Because I think he's a I

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Speaker 1: think he's dynamic. You can watch him when Dalvin Cook

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Speaker 1: has been hurt. It's not a huge drop off. I mean,

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Speaker 1: he's not many means, but he's a good back me.

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Speaker 1: I'm with you. If you can get him for five

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Speaker 1: or six, I do that. M hmm. It's only just begun.

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Speaker 1: Still haven't got to the final cut time, which is

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Speaker 1: four o'clock on Tuesday. The Jaguars earlier today, if you've

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Speaker 1: just joined us, announced the ten players that are either

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Speaker 1: waived or released, and there are some other teams around

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Speaker 1: the league apparently doing that as well. According to Tony

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Speaker 1: Boselli's Twitter feed, because he's going through and just you know,

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Speaker 1: reading random tweets of reports. What you mean that is great?

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Speaker 1: It's not random. Are verified people, and he credited him,

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Speaker 1: media mogul now breaking news, breaking news. Can I get

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Speaker 1: some breaking news music? According to Ian rappaport Um, the

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Speaker 1: Jacksonville Jaguars have traded le Viscus Channalt to the Panthers. Great,

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Speaker 1: you can revitalize his career like C. J. Henderson has

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Speaker 1: for what doesn't say? Wow? Is that Is that a real?

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Speaker 1: I double checked it, Yes, and the NFL network is

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Speaker 1: that story. It is true, It is real. I looked

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Speaker 1: at it. Leviscus chal reportedly traded Bill open the second

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Speaker 1: hour of Jaguars Happy Hour with that and your questions

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Speaker 1: tackle Tony Vasselli and CBS Sports senior writer Pete Frisco.

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Speaker 1: Glad you're along with us on this Monday afternoon as

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Speaker 1: we had an hour two and some breaking news. You

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Speaker 1: heard it moments ago. Tony Basselli read it off Twitter.

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Speaker 1: It is true, he and Rapit board of NFL Network

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Speaker 1: reporting that Leviscus should not has been traded to the Panthers.

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Speaker 1: No word on the compensation or the exchange, and here

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Speaker 1: we go an hour two, we're off and running. Hey,

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Speaker 1: ten players cut or released a wave today for the Jaguars,

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Speaker 1: So the churn begins. The eleven roster deadline, Well he

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Speaker 1: was traded, nobody'm saying, but eleven guys of the they're

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Speaker 1: getting down to where they need to be correct the

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Speaker 1: good point, Tony should help you. The deadline is four

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Speaker 1: o'clock Tuesday, but the church has begun, Tony, thank you. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'm helping you. He's constantly scrolling through Twitter, Pete, just

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Speaker 1: to see if there's any more breakings. Sources are are

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Speaker 1: reaching out. I got sources reaching out to be Pete.

839
00:48:26,560 --> 00:48:30,520
Speaker 1: You know. It's It's great though, and Ian's and Ian's tweet,

840
00:48:30,560 --> 00:48:33,480
Speaker 1: he says, the Jaguars are trading Leaviscus Chanal to the

841
00:48:33,520 --> 00:48:40,640
Speaker 1: Panther's a new playmaking weapon. Where is he a playmaking weapon? Seriously? Yeah,

842
00:48:40,680 --> 00:48:47,759
Speaker 1: it's interesting. Um, the reputation far far exceeds what he is. Yeah, So,

843
00:48:48,840 --> 00:48:52,120
Speaker 1: I mean, JP and I are talking about this. If

844
00:48:52,160 --> 00:48:58,400
Speaker 1: you look at the draft in now to two of

845
00:48:58,440 --> 00:49:02,759
Speaker 1: our first three picks are sitting in uh in Carolina Carolina.

846
00:49:03,200 --> 00:49:05,359
Speaker 1: Let's go by the way. C J. Henderson has been

847
00:49:05,440 --> 00:49:09,960
Speaker 1: really good this summer, really good. The raving about him

848
00:49:10,280 --> 00:49:12,560
Speaker 1: got a set together. That's good. Um, all right, So

849
00:49:12,680 --> 00:49:15,799
Speaker 1: that was that was what that was with him. I

850
00:49:15,800 --> 00:49:19,400
Speaker 1: mean that he a he wasn't what they thought he

851
00:49:19,440 --> 00:49:21,719
Speaker 1: was in terms of in dedicated the craft early on,

852
00:49:22,040 --> 00:49:26,040
Speaker 1: and then he hated Urban and Urban hated him. That's

853
00:49:26,080 --> 00:49:28,160
Speaker 1: how that thing played out. Well, if you look at

854
00:49:28,360 --> 00:49:32,360
Speaker 1: that draft, let's go through that draft real quick. J Draft.

855
00:49:32,440 --> 00:49:36,440
Speaker 1: Here we go. Ninth overall. C J. Henderson cornerback Florida,

856
00:49:36,800 --> 00:49:42,200
Speaker 1: gone not here overall. First round defensive and outside linebacker

857
00:49:42,239 --> 00:49:45,200
Speaker 1: Caleb and Chase on l s U. Literally were we

858
00:49:45,239 --> 00:49:47,920
Speaker 1: started the show. We started the show. Talkinge, is he

859
00:49:48,040 --> 00:49:51,120
Speaker 1: on the bubble of getting cut? I don't think he is,

860
00:49:51,160 --> 00:49:52,920
Speaker 1: by the way, But the fact that he's in the

861
00:49:52,920 --> 00:49:56,799
Speaker 1: conversation after two seasons back up at best? Keep going.

862
00:49:56,960 --> 00:50:00,920
Speaker 1: Second round, forty second overall wide receiver Leavisca Chinault Jr.

863
00:50:00,960 --> 00:50:06,600
Speaker 1: From Colorado Gone can't run. Third round pick seventy third overall.

864
00:50:06,680 --> 00:50:11,520
Speaker 1: Devon Hamilton, defensive tackle the Ohio State University. I mean

865
00:50:11,560 --> 00:50:14,480
Speaker 1: he's a he's a starter on for a second down. Yeah.

866
00:50:15,160 --> 00:50:20,160
Speaker 1: Fourth round hundred six overall offensive lineman Ben Bartch from

867
00:50:20,320 --> 00:50:26,640
Speaker 1: Division three St. John's in Minnesota. Right now for now.

868
00:50:28,239 --> 00:50:32,480
Speaker 1: Fourth round hundred thirty seventh cornerback Josiah Scott from Michigan

869
00:50:32,520 --> 00:50:40,000
Speaker 1: State gone. Fourth round one linebacker Shakill Quarterman from Miami.

870
00:50:40,880 --> 00:50:44,319
Speaker 1: Back up. But that's a good that's a good pick

871
00:50:44,320 --> 00:50:46,960
Speaker 1: in that spot. Yeah, I'm not being critical. That's the backup.

872
00:50:47,000 --> 00:50:50,640
Speaker 1: He's done a good job. He's a he's a he contributes.

873
00:50:51,960 --> 00:50:56,080
Speaker 1: Fifth round hundred fifty seventh overall safety from Auburn, Daniel Thomas.

874
00:50:56,800 --> 00:51:01,040
Speaker 1: Back up, best teams guy. Again, that's okay in that spot.

875
00:51:01,280 --> 00:51:05,160
Speaker 1: Fifth round hundred sixty five overall wide receiver from Texas

876
00:51:05,239 --> 00:51:08,480
Speaker 1: Colin Johnson would have been starting for the Giants, but

877
00:51:09,040 --> 00:51:14,879
Speaker 1: he got hurt last week. Sixth round pick hud ninth

878
00:51:14,960 --> 00:51:19,120
Speaker 1: overall quarterback Oregon State Jake Lewton. He won't be here,

879
00:51:19,160 --> 00:51:23,200
Speaker 1: I don't think. Two hundred sixth overall in the sixth round,

880
00:51:23,239 --> 00:51:27,239
Speaker 1: tied in from Georgia Tech, Tyler Davis. I don't know

881
00:51:27,280 --> 00:51:31,800
Speaker 1: where you are. And in the seventh round, two overall

882
00:51:31,960 --> 00:51:36,680
Speaker 1: cornerback and return specialists from Memphis Chris Claybrooks actually a

883
00:51:36,680 --> 00:51:39,000
Speaker 1: good pick, seventh round pick, guy who's gonna contribute on

884
00:51:39,040 --> 00:51:42,719
Speaker 1: special teams, good gunner. So other than the beginning of

885
00:51:42,719 --> 00:51:45,719
Speaker 1: that draft, it's okay. But here's the question. Is it

886
00:51:45,840 --> 00:51:49,520
Speaker 1: okay out of necessity? It could be in the bottom

887
00:51:49,560 --> 00:51:52,600
Speaker 1: line is those first three picks have to be starters

888
00:51:52,640 --> 00:51:58,839
Speaker 1: on a team when you're not very good, correct, And

889
00:51:59,200 --> 00:52:01,760
Speaker 1: they could have packaged those two picks and gotten Justin Herbert.

890
00:52:02,120 --> 00:52:08,239
Speaker 1: And that's what they could have. Now, that's why I

891
00:52:08,280 --> 00:52:10,080
Speaker 1: say I would give a second rounder right there, is

892
00:52:10,080 --> 00:52:14,000
Speaker 1: why I give a second rounder for Nick Chubb. Yeah,

893
00:52:14,000 --> 00:52:17,200
Speaker 1: but that's you can't think that way, Tony. You can't

894
00:52:17,239 --> 00:52:20,080
Speaker 1: think just because I can't. I can as a Jaguard,

895
00:52:20,120 --> 00:52:24,960
Speaker 1: loyal employee, fan, alumni, whatever, so you wanna call it.

896
00:52:25,000 --> 00:52:27,840
Speaker 1: I can't think that way, Pete. I'm not giving up

897
00:52:27,840 --> 00:52:31,759
Speaker 1: the second rounder for Nick Chubb. Not when to use

898
00:52:31,840 --> 00:52:35,120
Speaker 1: the first rounder on E. T N and not when

899
00:52:35,160 --> 00:52:40,040
Speaker 1: the running back position is devalued a. But b nick Chubb?

900
00:52:40,800 --> 00:52:46,319
Speaker 1: Is it? What is? No? He's on his third year. Yeah,

901
00:52:46,360 --> 00:52:52,239
Speaker 1: he's older than that. You just make stuff up? Heard

902
00:52:52,760 --> 00:52:56,359
Speaker 1: Georgia and got it next two year. No, I'm sorry.

903
00:52:56,360 --> 00:53:00,799
Speaker 1: He's going to be Okay, that means he's twenty six. Yeah,

904
00:53:01,080 --> 00:53:08,160
Speaker 1: so he's currently he's gone at the end of December.

905
00:53:08,520 --> 00:53:13,800
Speaker 1: One of these years, he'll turn this year, he's gonna

906
00:53:15,239 --> 00:53:16,840
Speaker 1: I don't think you could get him anyways if you

907
00:53:16,880 --> 00:53:18,239
Speaker 1: want it, because I don't think you can fit him

908
00:53:18,239 --> 00:53:23,640
Speaker 1: in your cap. No, because they paid so much money

909
00:53:23,680 --> 00:53:26,520
Speaker 1: out to compensate for the lack of for the bad

910
00:53:26,600 --> 00:53:29,920
Speaker 1: draft picks. That's why. That's what happens. That's what happens

911
00:53:30,280 --> 00:53:33,880
Speaker 1: for sure. The Jaguar is almost like, if you draft well,

912
00:53:34,440 --> 00:53:36,120
Speaker 1: your cap becomes a problem because then you've got to

913
00:53:36,160 --> 00:53:40,040
Speaker 1: resign everybody. Right, that's a pleasant problem to have. But

914
00:53:40,080 --> 00:53:42,040
Speaker 1: if you don't draft well, then you overpay everybody to

915
00:53:42,080 --> 00:53:44,200
Speaker 1: try and compensate for your poor drafting. You don't know

916
00:53:44,200 --> 00:53:46,960
Speaker 1: what you're getting. Well, somehow, the the Rams have figured

917
00:53:47,040 --> 00:53:49,600
Speaker 1: it out. They pay like people so much money, but

918
00:53:49,640 --> 00:53:52,719
Speaker 1: they have no cap issues. They've got cash or something

919
00:53:53,000 --> 00:53:55,640
Speaker 1: because they back end. Drafting has been really good for

920
00:53:55,680 --> 00:53:58,439
Speaker 1: the Rams, and so you supplement those guys with good

921
00:53:58,440 --> 00:54:00,600
Speaker 1: players who were drafted at the back, and that's how

922
00:54:00,600 --> 00:54:04,719
Speaker 1: you do it. I'm just saying they've done a good

923
00:54:04,760 --> 00:54:07,600
Speaker 1: job I'm not. I'm not. I'm not because they're sustainable

924
00:54:07,640 --> 00:54:10,960
Speaker 1: though the long run if they keep on drafting good players.

925
00:54:10,960 --> 00:54:15,560
Speaker 1: It is. But they drafted to safeties in late rounds

926
00:54:15,560 --> 00:54:17,319
Speaker 1: and they're fighting for each for a job, the two

927
00:54:17,320 --> 00:54:18,920
Speaker 1: of them and both of them started. I mean, you

928
00:54:18,960 --> 00:54:22,560
Speaker 1: can find those guys. Well, it's sustainable as long as

929
00:54:22,760 --> 00:54:26,040
Speaker 1: you keep Aaron Donald on the team on defense because

930
00:54:26,040 --> 00:54:28,120
Speaker 1: he covers up a lot of sins on the back half.

931
00:54:29,160 --> 00:54:32,319
Speaker 1: And you know, you got a guy Jalen Ramsey who

932
00:54:32,320 --> 00:54:35,160
Speaker 1: allows you to do things on the back half because he's,

933
00:54:35,239 --> 00:54:37,120
Speaker 1: you know, one of those type of players. You've got

934
00:54:37,120 --> 00:54:41,400
Speaker 1: a franchise quarterback, you have, you know, the best possession

935
00:54:41,480 --> 00:54:45,200
Speaker 1: receiver and all football and Cooper Cup I mean they've done.

936
00:54:45,239 --> 00:54:48,839
Speaker 1: I mean they've They've got guys that are top three

937
00:54:48,880 --> 00:54:55,080
Speaker 1: at their position, couple that are top one at their position. Well,

938
00:54:55,080 --> 00:54:56,960
Speaker 1: there's three of the top ten players in the league

939
00:54:58,160 --> 00:55:01,719
Speaker 1: I think all arguably. Do you think Cooper Cups the

940
00:55:01,719 --> 00:55:05,919
Speaker 1: top ten player? He won the Triple Crown last year. Pete,

941
00:55:06,120 --> 00:55:09,080
Speaker 1: I'm not arguing with you. I'm asking you a damn question. Yes, yes,

942
00:55:09,160 --> 00:55:11,719
Speaker 1: he's a he's a top ten play. So you're c. Pete.

943
00:55:11,760 --> 00:55:13,640
Speaker 1: I think you're full of it there, because if I did,

944
00:55:14,000 --> 00:55:17,440
Speaker 1: if we had all the players drafted or available for

945
00:55:17,480 --> 00:55:20,120
Speaker 1: a draft right now, you were not picking Cooper Cup

946
00:55:20,120 --> 00:55:27,200
Speaker 1: in the top ten, I would. No, you're not, okay.

947
00:55:27,440 --> 00:55:29,399
Speaker 1: Was he better than all the receivers in the league

948
00:55:29,440 --> 00:55:33,319
Speaker 1: last year? You're missing my point, Pete, Okay, for you

949
00:55:33,360 --> 00:55:38,960
Speaker 1: have Okay, who's your first receiver? You're picking me personally,

950
00:55:39,160 --> 00:55:47,759
Speaker 1: Bobby Jefferson, Okay, I'm going to mar Chase Chase. I'm

951
00:55:47,760 --> 00:55:50,960
Speaker 1: going Jamar Chase, Labar Chase. Is he a new player,

952
00:55:51,000 --> 00:55:57,200
Speaker 1: I don't know. It's his brother brother. I go, I'm

953
00:55:57,200 --> 00:55:59,360
Speaker 1: taking Jamar Chase. My point is you didn't say Cooper

954
00:55:59,360 --> 00:56:05,520
Speaker 1: Cup talking about youth though there's a difference. No, Davante Adams,

955
00:56:07,280 --> 00:56:12,600
Speaker 1: it's close. My point is my point. I don't think

956
00:56:12,760 --> 00:56:18,080
Speaker 1: trouble Crown. Last year he letting yards, catches and touchdowns.

957
00:56:18,200 --> 00:56:22,719
Speaker 1: I love I love the receiver. Doesn't sound like you

958
00:56:22,760 --> 00:56:25,880
Speaker 1: love him, Pete. All I'm saying I know for a

959
00:56:25,920 --> 00:56:29,200
Speaker 1: fact I like Cooper Cup probably more than you like him.

960
00:56:29,280 --> 00:56:34,400
Speaker 1: He is not on the top end of I'm just

961
00:56:34,400 --> 00:56:37,560
Speaker 1: telling you, if you're picking a team you're picking I

962
00:56:37,600 --> 00:56:40,359
Speaker 1: would say three receivers. I know Pete Briscoe. I bet

963
00:56:40,360 --> 00:56:43,400
Speaker 1: you Pete Briscoe picks uh three receivers and four he

964
00:56:43,440 --> 00:56:48,000
Speaker 1: picks Cooper Cup one of them. Huh is better than

965
00:56:48,040 --> 00:56:49,720
Speaker 1: you think he is. Okay, let me ask you a question.

966
00:56:50,640 --> 00:56:59,839
Speaker 1: Uh Jefferson or Cup? Jefferson Jamaar Chaser Cup? Um? Are

967
00:56:59,880 --> 00:57:03,240
Speaker 1: you stuttering? Just speak? I would write, I would Cup

968
00:57:03,280 --> 00:57:06,560
Speaker 1: ahead of Chase. Who are you taking on your team?

969
00:57:06,600 --> 00:57:14,479
Speaker 1: You're taking Cup instead of March. Cup now matters. He's

970
00:57:14,480 --> 00:57:17,800
Speaker 1: twenty nine, so age matters. So if I'm building a team,

971
00:57:18,040 --> 00:57:23,439
Speaker 1: I'm taking Jason Jefferson, also taking Chase in Jefferson over Adams? Okay,

972
00:57:23,480 --> 00:57:28,480
Speaker 1: Davante Adams or Cooper Cup? Cup? Really? Yeah? I think

973
00:57:28,960 --> 00:57:31,520
Speaker 1: you can't just discount what he did list. I'm not

974
00:57:31,600 --> 00:57:34,560
Speaker 1: discounting it. I'm just shocked that you're taking Cooper cups.

975
00:57:36,200 --> 00:57:38,440
Speaker 1: The guy had nineteen under yard receiving and you called

976
00:57:38,520 --> 00:57:42,280
Speaker 1: him a possession receiver. Well, he's a slot guy. He's

977
00:57:42,360 --> 00:57:45,200
Speaker 1: you know, how often does he line up outside on

978
00:57:45,240 --> 00:57:48,200
Speaker 1: the number one corner and go just spread down the field? Right?

979
00:57:48,560 --> 00:57:50,919
Speaker 1: I'm not taking anything away from but he paid, he plays,

980
00:57:51,080 --> 00:57:53,360
Speaker 1: moved him around a lot though, But he's not a

981
00:57:53,360 --> 00:57:56,320
Speaker 1: slot receiver. No, he's not just one. He's not a

982
00:57:56,320 --> 00:57:58,680
Speaker 1: one trick pony. In fact, that's what Jefferson was till

983
00:57:58,680 --> 00:58:00,320
Speaker 1: I talked to Jefferson was up there. He still about

984
00:58:00,320 --> 00:58:02,640
Speaker 1: how excited he is to move around like Cup does

985
00:58:03,800 --> 00:58:07,640
Speaker 1: in that offense. All right, listen, I love Coopers. You

986
00:58:07,680 --> 00:58:09,680
Speaker 1: know what the thing is with Cup is nobody believes

987
00:58:09,760 --> 00:58:13,200
Speaker 1: that he can do it. Again, that's part of the problem.

988
00:58:13,320 --> 00:58:16,160
Speaker 1: I love. I just don't think if I'm listening to

989
00:58:16,400 --> 00:58:18,760
Speaker 1: top ten players in this league, I don't think Cooper

990
00:58:18,760 --> 00:58:20,840
Speaker 1: Cups on my list. That's all I'm saying now. I

991
00:58:20,840 --> 00:58:25,360
Speaker 1: would take I would take Jefferson in terms of where

992
00:58:25,360 --> 00:58:27,280
Speaker 1: owing and what he's going to be. I think he's

993
00:58:27,440 --> 00:58:29,919
Speaker 1: he's going to be the best in the league. Chase

994
00:58:32,400 --> 00:58:35,400
Speaker 1: the way they use Cup, the way the Jags want

995
00:58:35,400 --> 00:58:39,880
Speaker 1: to use Kirk slot, move him around, Yeah, I think,

996
00:58:39,920 --> 00:58:43,400
Speaker 1: I think, yeah, I think. I mean it's down the field,

997
00:58:43,480 --> 00:58:45,240
Speaker 1: but well, I think you'll see him go deep. It's

998
00:58:45,240 --> 00:58:49,440
Speaker 1: a different offense. But I do think that Doug Peterson

999
00:58:49,440 --> 00:58:53,480
Speaker 1: will move Christian Kirk around. Okay, but let's take the

1000
00:58:53,480 --> 00:58:55,440
Speaker 1: Cup conversation out. If he said you don't think he's

1001
00:58:55,440 --> 00:58:56,880
Speaker 1: a top ten. He's close to being a top ten

1002
00:58:56,920 --> 00:59:00,480
Speaker 1: no matter what. And Donald and Ramsey are. Yeah. My

1003
00:59:01,080 --> 00:59:04,200
Speaker 1: your point is right, Pete. From the standpoint that they

1004
00:59:04,200 --> 00:59:08,040
Speaker 1: have three players that you are arguing well too, you

1005
00:59:08,040 --> 00:59:10,000
Speaker 1: don't have to argue because they are are the best

1006
00:59:10,040 --> 00:59:14,040
Speaker 1: player at their position. Correct, correct. And when you have

1007
00:59:15,560 --> 00:59:17,240
Speaker 1: I mean, I mean, when you have that, you get

1008
00:59:17,240 --> 00:59:19,760
Speaker 1: guy like Darius Williams. He plays, he plays well, and

1009
00:59:19,760 --> 00:59:21,720
Speaker 1: then some team comes along and pays the boatload of

1010
00:59:21,760 --> 00:59:24,960
Speaker 1: money to come. Here's the thing. If you looked at

1011
00:59:24,960 --> 00:59:27,880
Speaker 1: this roster right now, and I'm hoping this will change

1012
00:59:27,960 --> 00:59:30,880
Speaker 1: after this year, but how many guys are on this

1013
00:59:31,000 --> 00:59:37,440
Speaker 1: roster that are top five at their position in the NFL? None,

1014
00:59:38,520 --> 00:59:44,000
Speaker 1: I would say, I think there's one. Oh, Brandon Sheriff. Yeah,

1015
00:59:44,040 --> 00:59:46,400
Speaker 1: Sheriff is the only one. I think. I mean, I

1016
00:59:46,400 --> 00:59:48,520
Speaker 1: think he's top five. I mean, you can make a

1017
00:59:48,600 --> 00:59:50,680
Speaker 1: case for him being top five. He's no, he's not

1018
00:59:50,680 --> 00:59:55,720
Speaker 1: a slam dunk as a top five Nelson. I mean,

1019
00:59:55,840 --> 00:59:57,440
Speaker 1: you could go through and you could probably come up

1020
00:59:57,480 --> 01:00:00,840
Speaker 1: with him being in the argument with six seven. It's

1021
01:00:00,880 --> 01:00:04,040
Speaker 1: no slam donkeys top five. I think I think he's

1022
01:00:04,080 --> 01:00:06,240
Speaker 1: top five. But to your point, Pete, I mean I

1023
01:00:06,280 --> 01:00:08,680
Speaker 1: had to go through the entire I mean, Zack Martin's there,

1024
01:00:09,080 --> 01:00:14,480
Speaker 1: Quentin Nelson would would would he be? Would Trevor Lawrence

1025
01:00:14,520 --> 01:00:17,680
Speaker 1: be a top ten quarterback next year? I think he

1026
01:00:17,720 --> 01:00:20,000
Speaker 1: can be. Next year. I think he will be. How

1027
01:00:20,040 --> 01:00:26,600
Speaker 1: about that, I think he will be. I'm all right now,

1028
01:00:27,320 --> 01:00:29,480
Speaker 1: Derek Carr top ten. I think that's where you're in

1029
01:00:29,480 --> 01:00:33,600
Speaker 1: the argument there, Derek Carr, Kirk Cousin can be better

1030
01:00:33,600 --> 01:00:36,200
Speaker 1: than both those guys you're talking about after this season's over.

1031
01:00:37,520 --> 01:00:40,760
Speaker 1: My point is right now, on this team, nobody is

1032
01:00:40,800 --> 01:00:43,560
Speaker 1: except for And this is where this is where guys

1033
01:00:43,600 --> 01:00:46,240
Speaker 1: like Josh Allen like he's like, I'm gonna put him

1034
01:00:46,240 --> 01:00:50,200
Speaker 1: as the poster child, like because I have like I

1035
01:00:50,280 --> 01:00:53,200
Speaker 1: hold him in high regard. I think he's super talented

1036
01:00:53,240 --> 01:00:55,880
Speaker 1: and he has the right mindset and the way I

1037
01:00:55,920 --> 01:00:59,200
Speaker 1: describe him right now, he's a good player. I think

1038
01:00:59,200 --> 01:01:02,200
Speaker 1: he has the potential to be great, a difference maker.

1039
01:01:02,680 --> 01:01:06,480
Speaker 1: And for this team to start taking the next step,

1040
01:01:06,560 --> 01:01:09,600
Speaker 1: you need guys like Josh Allen who now are in

1041
01:01:09,640 --> 01:01:13,240
Speaker 1: the debate of one of the best pass rushers in football,

1042
01:01:14,320 --> 01:01:16,800
Speaker 1: one of the best outside linebackers or defensive ends in

1043
01:01:16,800 --> 01:01:21,200
Speaker 1: football debate. Next year, I believe he is Pete. I

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Speaker 1: think he's I think he's a twelve to fifteen Zack guy.

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Speaker 1: This year, well, he's gonna be towards to be in

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Speaker 1: that debate. I agree, but I'm just saying I think

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Speaker 1: the debate will be there. I think Trevor Lawrence, like

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Speaker 1: Pezez said, will be in the debate. Of a top

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Speaker 1: ten quarterback. You need that to happen. I think Christian

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Speaker 1: Kirk has the opportunity from being in the shadow of

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Speaker 1: you know, Hopkins and Larry Fitzgerald and a A. J.

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Speaker 1: Green in Arizona to being the number one guy where

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Speaker 1: he catches a hundred plus balls and now all of

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Speaker 1: a sudden, you're like, oh, Christian Kirk. When you start

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Speaker 1: talking about number one receivers, you bring his name up

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Speaker 1: like this is what needs to happen for this team

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Speaker 1: to be good. I mean, if you go all the

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Speaker 1: way back to the beginning of this franchise, this team

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Speaker 1: became good because we had players like a Jimmy Smith,

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Speaker 1: a Fred Taylor, I'm Mark Burnell at the quarterback position,

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Speaker 1: who you know, for three years made the Pro Bowl

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Speaker 1: go ahead say yourself. You know you know, but Pete

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Speaker 1: like a right tackle. Leon Cercy was arguably one of

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Speaker 1: the best right tackles, and you know you was one

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Speaker 1: of the best pass rushers in the league. That's exactly

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Speaker 1: so you have to get guys who are in the conversation,

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Speaker 1: is one of the best at their position. Okay, but

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Speaker 1: as of right now, the only one would be the

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Speaker 1: right guard. And that's debatable. But next year Alan could be,

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Speaker 1: Lawrence will be. We'll say another one. I'm gonna get

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Speaker 1: another name that I'm high on. And and Cambele who Cambell.

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Speaker 1: I love Tyson Campbell. I don't know if he'll be

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Speaker 1: there after this year, but I think he's on the

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Speaker 1: he has the right trajectory. Cam Robinson, I think Cam Robinson,

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Speaker 1: who had a good year last year, he's gonna have

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Speaker 1: his best year and will be in the upper ten

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Speaker 1: called ten left tackles. It doesn't matter who plays that position,

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Speaker 1: he's gonna he's gonna problem. Remember when Mike Pearson plays,

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Speaker 1: he said he was going to be. First of all,

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Speaker 1: I wasn't even on the radio with Mike Pierson. You're

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Speaker 1: an idiot, he was. By No, that's not sure to

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Speaker 1: stop it. He's gonna be a top five tackle in

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Speaker 1: the league after this year. I think you can debate

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Speaker 1: it after this year. Oh man, I don't see that

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Speaker 1: at all. What not because I don't think he's that good.

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Speaker 1: I think he's I think he's a top ten to

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Speaker 1: twelve thirteen tackle, top five. I'm not saying right now,

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Speaker 1: I'm saying the debate will be on you and I

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Speaker 1: next year will be debating whether he's a top five

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Speaker 1: tackle or not. Well, you're gonna be better than Trent Williams.

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Speaker 1: Ain't gonna be better than the kids that the Chargers.

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Speaker 1: So there's two right up the back. I mean you

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Speaker 1: could get there's guys out there. I mean Sony top five.

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Speaker 1: I'm just telling you Pete Wow, I'll tell you another guy.

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Speaker 1: I'm not top five. But at the end of this

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Speaker 1: year we will be talking about him as a difference

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Speaker 1: maker on the defense. Andre Cisco say, I like Cisco.

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Speaker 1: I think he's got real potential to be a good,

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Speaker 1: really good safety. So I I'm not gonna say he's

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Speaker 1: top five, but he's gonna say top five. I said

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Speaker 1: that he will, Like all of a sudden, you're back. Oh,

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Speaker 1: this is one of the better top third safeties in

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Speaker 1: the NFL. Hey, uh, we gotta take your time out.

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Speaker 1: Do we have to? Yes, because we have to come

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Speaker 1: back and sell some wine. Keep it Real. We're gonna

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Speaker 1: keep it real with Mandavi. Mr Bob Mundavi. It's actually Robert.

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Speaker 1: Please call him by the proper name. That's gonna make

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Speaker 1: an appearance when we come back. It's Jaguars Happy Hour

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Speaker 1: on ten to excel, Jaguars dot Com, Jaguars Social Media Twitter, Facebook,

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Speaker 1: and YouTube, and the Jaguars Digital Network. Welcome back. It's

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Speaker 1: Jaguars Happy Hour, JP Shadrick with Hall of Famer Tony

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Speaker 1: Vaselli and Pete Prisco. It's time for Keeping It Real,

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Speaker 1: presented by Woodbridge by Robert Mundavi. Open up a winner today,

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Speaker 1: Real Ingredients Award winning wine by Robert Mundavi. Alright, let's

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Speaker 1: keep it real. What do we keep it real? With JP?

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01:05:35,880 --> 01:05:39,200
Speaker 1: The right tackle position? Did we do this last week?

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Speaker 1: We have it? Well? Yeah, it's you know, neither one

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01:05:43,680 --> 01:05:46,760
Speaker 1: on it though, no, no one. Actually when it comes

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Speaker 1: to the offensive line beat. Let's be clear, nobody cares

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Speaker 1: on this show about your opinion. Only one person on

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01:05:53,680 --> 01:06:00,200
Speaker 1: the plea keep the tape of this show so that

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Speaker 1: we can get Cam Robinson top five tackle at the

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Speaker 1: end of the year. It's going to save that, please,

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01:06:06,880 --> 01:06:10,560
Speaker 1: because one guy played the position went to the Hall

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Speaker 1: of Fame, arguably one of the greatest of all time.

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Speaker 1: I did not, but I will be right. Well, Pete,

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Speaker 1: let's be clear now, I didn't say he would be

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Speaker 1: I said we'd be talking about whether or not he

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Speaker 1: is kind of vague. No, that's what is that? Not

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Speaker 1: what I said? JA the conversation the six or seven

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Speaker 1: or something like that, that's right, Yes, bare minimum he

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Speaker 1: six or seven in the league. I think he has

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Speaker 1: to be top eight for me to be right, Okay.

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Speaker 1: And where is he right now? Twelve fift Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: think that's fair. Okay, So yes, we'll keep this and

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Speaker 1: then don't ever say anything that I don't know offensive

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Speaker 1: lying you do, wouldn't doesn't happen. Yeah, when he makes

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Speaker 1: the Pro Bowl this year and talking about first team

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01:07:05,680 --> 01:07:08,680
Speaker 1: or second team All Pro, you'll be uh asking for

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01:07:08,680 --> 01:07:11,680
Speaker 1: forgiveness like that. That would be good for everybody. And

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01:07:11,680 --> 01:07:17,200
Speaker 1: when does Luke joke were gonna make it? Let's move

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Speaker 1: to the right tackle. That was not very nice. Joan

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01:07:21,000 --> 01:07:24,440
Speaker 1: Taylor Walker little neither one of them were in their Saturday.

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01:07:24,720 --> 01:07:26,120
Speaker 1: What do you see. I wouldn't. First of all, I

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01:07:26,120 --> 01:07:28,480
Speaker 1: would have played Walker Little because I think he's the backup.

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01:07:28,480 --> 01:07:30,240
Speaker 1: I think he's a swing tackle. I would have played

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01:07:30,280 --> 01:07:32,000
Speaker 1: him and put him at left tackle to give him

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Speaker 1: some reps because at the end of the day, he

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Speaker 1: if something happens to camp, he is your left tackle.

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Speaker 1: So I'm surprised that Doug Peterson did not do that. UM.

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Speaker 1: I think Jawan Taylor won the job. He had the

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Speaker 1: better camp once he got healthy, he had the better

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Speaker 1: games that they both played in, and I think Juwan

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Speaker 1: Taylor will be your starting right right tackle when the

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Speaker 1: season opens. I the one thing, it actually was good

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Speaker 1: to have that competition shit over there because I think

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Speaker 1: it pushed Joan Taylor. You could tell that that was

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Speaker 1: a different guy. You know, some guys. I don't know

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Speaker 1: if you guys noticed that. I heard he had an

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Speaker 1: edge in camp, which is a good thing. UM. And

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Speaker 1: so I think the fact that they didn't flop Little

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Speaker 1: over there to challenge him made him a better player.

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Speaker 1: He played better, he was better in the games. Like

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Speaker 1: you said, Tony, I think he earned the job. He

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Speaker 1: should be number He should be the starting right tackle. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: but again Walk a Little. You know, they used the

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Speaker 1: second Rounderum last year. And I think some of the

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Speaker 1: conversation people are gonna have and are having is you know,

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Speaker 1: how did he not win that job or they're disappointed

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Speaker 1: didn't win the job. At the end of the day,

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Speaker 1: you know, whether he was the starting right tackle or

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Speaker 1: not does not mean his career in Jacksonville or it's

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Speaker 1: a busted pick or anything like that. I mean, people,

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Speaker 1: you need to be paid. Number One, that kids at

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Speaker 1: out two years at a major knee injury. He is

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Speaker 1: big athletic Um. I still have hope that he will

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Speaker 1: continue to improve. I think he's getting coached very well

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Speaker 1: by Phil Rauscher, who I have a ton of respect

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Speaker 1: for his an offensive line coach, and so I expect

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Speaker 1: him um to to improve over the season. And I

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Speaker 1: don't think that this battle is over just because Jowan

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Speaker 1: Taylor is the starting right tackle opening day. He he's

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Speaker 1: gonna know that he has a guy right over his

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Speaker 1: shoulder and Walker Little, And I my hope is Walker

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Speaker 1: continues to work and progress and get better in practice

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01:09:29,040 --> 01:09:31,640
Speaker 1: and use scout team reps and use your one on

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01:09:31,680 --> 01:09:33,559
Speaker 1: one reps. Like to get better and better and better.

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01:09:33,600 --> 01:09:36,800
Speaker 1: To put pressure on Jawan so that if something were

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Speaker 1: to happen were Jawan is not playing well or an

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Speaker 1: inconsistent that you can slide in Walker little there. And

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Speaker 1: at the same time to remind Juwan Taylor daily that hey, um,

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Speaker 1: there's someone else we can play if if you're not

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Speaker 1: playing at a high level, because I think that will

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Speaker 1: help both guys play like you did as a rookie.

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Speaker 1: That should be the message for Jowan Taylor, because he

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Speaker 1: looked like he was gonna be a good player as

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Speaker 1: a rookie and then the last couple of years he's

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Speaker 1: been really bad and and so I think competition brought

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Speaker 1: the best out in him, and that's always a good thing. Plus,

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Speaker 1: it's a contract to your pet, you know, a contract

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Speaker 1: here does the people Well, they'll probably overpay him next

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Speaker 1: year too, like they've done in the past. Who have

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Speaker 1: they overpaid in the past, Well, a lot of people

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Speaker 1: around the league. You think they overpaid for everybody they

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Speaker 1: signed this offseason. It's free agency. Got to do that. Well,

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Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, well that looks like your Yeah, Okay,

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Speaker 1: I can't. I mean, I don't know where to go

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Speaker 1: with that. Is what it is. I'll say this based

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Speaker 1: on early returns. I don't think they overpaid for Fatacasi.

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Speaker 1: I would agree with you, and I'm in the minority.

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Speaker 1: I don't think I mean they Okay, yeah, they paid

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Speaker 1: too much for Kirk, but they had to, or did they?

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01:10:57,439 --> 01:10:59,640
Speaker 1: But I think he's a good player, I really do.

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Speaker 1: I think Kirk's gonna be a good player. But they're

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01:11:02,160 --> 01:11:05,960
Speaker 1: paying him great money. If he's really good, though, then

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Speaker 1: it's worth it. He catches a hundred balls here, he's

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Speaker 1: worth every time. Okay, you're gonna put that one. Is

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Speaker 1: he gonna be a hunter? Prediction Monday? I just said, right,

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Speaker 1: I mean was here's the is it? Z A. Jones

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Speaker 1: actually has looked good this summer. So his deal looks

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Speaker 1: like when he signed his deal, I thought that was wacky,

1222
01:11:29,560 --> 01:11:31,639
Speaker 1: and his deal if he plays like that, his deal

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Speaker 1: is gonna be about in par for what he should be.

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Speaker 1: All Right. That's it for Keeping it Real. Presented by

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Speaker 1: Woodbridge by Robert Mundabi. He open up a winner today.

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Speaker 1: Real Ingredients Award winning line by Robert MUNDAVII. Mr Mundabi, Sir,

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Speaker 1: thank you for your sponsorship of this program. We're back

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Speaker 1: at a moment. We'll take your social media questions the

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Speaker 1: fanatics fan questions. Is Jaguars Happy Hour on the Jaguarsgital Network.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back Jaguars Happy Hour on a Monday afternoon J P.

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Speaker 1: Shadrick with Pete Frisco and Hall of Fame. Aren't Tony?

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01:12:20,200 --> 01:12:24,799
Speaker 1: But so glad you're with us. It is the Monday

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Speaker 1: of the mini bye week. There's two weeks until the

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Speaker 1: regular season to go a long way to go long?

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Speaker 1: What are you gonna talking about next week on Labor Day?

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Speaker 1: Should we just take a day all Pete? Pete's cut

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Speaker 1: right now, he's not off. Can we hear you, Pete? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you can hear me. We got you now. That days

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Speaker 1: until the season starts. Only Tony come on Thursday Thursday? Now?

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Speaker 1: Are you doing that game? Tone? No, I'm not doing

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Speaker 1: the first Thursday night? Um? Did you see the Ford

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01:12:51,520 --> 01:12:56,439
Speaker 1: and Iris? Pete just um signed Garoppolo. I thought all

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Speaker 1: along he wasn't going anywhere. That one struct He was

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Speaker 1: supposed to make four million dollars this year. They restructured it.

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01:13:04,080 --> 01:13:10,400
Speaker 1: UH total upside sixteen million. Basically his base is seven

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Speaker 1: million and then you can get another or six six

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01:13:12,680 --> 01:13:16,479
Speaker 1: and a half million base five and sentives of roster bonus,

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Speaker 1: and then another seven nine million out there based on

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Speaker 1: playing time. I mean, I'm gonna say this because he

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Speaker 1: the VIC. It was this at the Vikings the week before.

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Speaker 1: They worked out with the Niners for two days and

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Speaker 1: played them. And so I asked some guys on the

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Speaker 1: on the Vikings that I know, some players I know,

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Speaker 1: and some other guys in the organization, what have they

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Speaker 1: thought of Trey Lance? And they all went mm hmm.

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Speaker 1: They gave me that look. They said, the motion was funky,

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Speaker 1: telegraphed his passes a little bit, and j accuracy wasn't there.

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Speaker 1: There's gotta be some concern about that if you're the Niners,

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Speaker 1: and which has to be why they kept them. I mean, Pete,

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Speaker 1: they have at ers have a super Bowl roster. Besides

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Speaker 1: quarterback the middle. The offensive line is bad, though, Tony,

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Speaker 1: I don't know. Can you can you get around that

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Speaker 1: with two solid tackles? Okay, a whole new group in there.

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Speaker 1: Oh that's fair. But it's a good it's a good team,

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Speaker 1: good team, and and they're good well coached. Aren't they

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Speaker 1: better with Jimmy Garoppolo than Trey lancepet I think they are.

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Speaker 1: But you know, everybody thinks that they can take this

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Speaker 1: guy who can move and run and everything else and

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01:14:27,920 --> 01:14:30,960
Speaker 1: create so much stuff for him. I wouldn't be shocked

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Speaker 1: if he's not starting by November or October. Only one

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Speaker 1: year deal. Your team is built to win now, So

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Speaker 1: go ahead. JP just started. Sorry to kiss you off there, Pete.

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Speaker 1: This didn't happened last week. No it didn't. It was

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Speaker 1: perfectly smooth last week, unlike this week with Pete back.

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Speaker 1: Time now for the Fanatics fan questions. Jaguars fans are

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Speaker 1: gearing up and saving big at fanatics dot com. Shop

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Speaker 1: today and rep your Jags gear on game day and

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Speaker 1: every day. Fanatics dot Com officially licensed everything. Question one

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01:15:07,880 --> 01:15:09,800
Speaker 1: we put out the cat signal. Here's what we came

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Speaker 1: up with on Twitter today. The question one is at

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01:15:13,760 --> 01:15:16,800
Speaker 1: Devil Jaguar X eight two, give us some off the

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01:15:16,800 --> 01:15:19,479
Speaker 1: cuff extreme predictions for the season. Well, I think Tony

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01:15:19,560 --> 01:15:23,559
Speaker 1: has just been doing that already, Pete, No, he's got it.

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Speaker 1: He didn't give up. Those are all things he believes.

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Speaker 1: They just sound like buffoon off the cuff predictions. Give me,

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Speaker 1: give me something off the cuff to Selly. You go first,

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Speaker 1: off the cuff. Off the cuff. This team will be

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Speaker 1: within two games going into December for the a f

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Speaker 1: C South. So by November they're gonna be within two

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Speaker 1: games going by the end of November. Let's not that

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Speaker 1: off the cuff, it would be in third place, though.

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Speaker 1: I mean, what you're saying that they're gonna be two

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Speaker 1: games back from with it to win the division? And

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Speaker 1: what's I think they have division games in December? Okay,

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Speaker 1: here here's mine. You're ready many or away? But yes,

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Speaker 1: nobody pays any attention to the Pro Bowl and it

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Speaker 1: really doesn't mean anything, but Trevor Lawrence will be playing

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Speaker 1: in the Pro Bowl. Are they even gonna have a

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Speaker 1: Pro Bowl this year? Pe they shouldn't. But he will

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Speaker 1: make the Pro Bowl in some form or fashion, because

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Speaker 1: I think he's gonna roll up big numbers. I really do.

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Speaker 1: I like that. I like that very nice. Next question

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Speaker 1: at Bordles Nation, do you see us adding Kenyan Drake

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Speaker 1: or some other running back? Yeah, we talked some running

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Speaker 1: back to earlier. Drake's a free agent already. I don't

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01:16:43,160 --> 01:16:44,960
Speaker 1: think he fits with what they want to do, though,

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Speaker 1: I think the other guys are I think are better fits.

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Speaker 1: Don't you agreet Tony and Madison or whoever. Yeah, I

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01:16:53,200 --> 01:16:55,960
Speaker 1: think they'll be. There will be a running back that

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Speaker 1: has not been in camp with us on this roster

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Speaker 1: opening day. Michelle's out there, he's free. He's free. I'd

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Speaker 1: be kicking the tires on that immediately. Plus, I hear

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Speaker 1: Kenyan Drake can be difficult to coach at times. Then

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Speaker 1: you don't want him here. You have a young team. Um,

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Speaker 1: then you know we talked about the report that the

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Speaker 1: Vikings might be uh in the market to trade Alexander

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Speaker 1: Madison is very good back. Um, did you get both?

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Speaker 1: Do you need both? No? I don't think you need both,

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01:17:27,960 --> 01:17:31,320
Speaker 1: but no, you need one. You need one one. I

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Speaker 1: just signed Sony Michelle. That's what I would do, easy enough.

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Speaker 1: Next question at Jarvis Davis twenty. Do you guys think

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Speaker 1: the defense could be in the top ten to fifteen

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Speaker 1: by the end of this season? Pete, you go first,

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Speaker 1: top fifteen? Yes, top ten, though this defense at the

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Speaker 1: end of the season will be ranked number seven seven

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Speaker 1: in the league until total defense? Is that with the

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Speaker 1: metro Yeah, pomp poms on all over the place today? Man,

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Speaker 1: where they underneath the desk? Seven? I don't see that.

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Speaker 1: I think it's gonna be a good defense. But that's

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Speaker 1: pretty dark good seventh in the league and they got

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Speaker 1: the A F. C. West on the roster. Let's let's

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Speaker 1: just think of seven defenses, just on the top our head.

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Speaker 1: They're not better than the Chargers were. But the Charges

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Speaker 1: weren't ranked even in the top ten last year. They weren't.

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Speaker 1: But they not have Khalil mac and J. C. Jackson

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Speaker 1: and Derwin James's back plans. Come on, Tony, okay, will

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Speaker 1: you be better than the Niners defense? Will they be

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Speaker 1: better than the Rams defense? Tony, Well, I mean not

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01:18:50,600 --> 01:18:54,080
Speaker 1: better than the Saints defense. I know that much. Are

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Speaker 1: they better than the Bucks defense? Maybe? Are they better

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01:18:57,880 --> 01:19:05,160
Speaker 1: in Miami's defense? Yes? Are they better than the Bills defense? No?

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Speaker 1: Who are the Okay? Give us the top ten defenses

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01:19:08,760 --> 01:19:12,360
Speaker 1: last year JP by yards stand by, I'm working on that.

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01:19:13,000 --> 01:19:16,639
Speaker 1: You could go by points to I mean by yards.

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01:19:16,680 --> 01:19:22,719
Speaker 1: Pay attention. I know, because that's what we decided. Because

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Speaker 1: that's seven. All right. Here we go, number one defense

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Speaker 1: in the league by total yardage per game, the Buffalo Bills.

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Speaker 1: You're not to be ramatic circles the wagons like the

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01:19:36,160 --> 01:19:40,240
Speaker 1: Buffalo named the year line a second, San France third,

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01:19:40,360 --> 01:19:45,360
Speaker 1: New England fourth, Cleveland fifth, Chicago six somehow New Orleans seventh,

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Speaker 1: Denver eight, Green Bay was ninth, Philly ten. By the way,

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Speaker 1: green Bay will be significantly better than they were a

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Speaker 1: year ago. All the corners are back healthy. Um, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'd like to amend I will say they will be.

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Speaker 1: They're gonna be number ten exactly. Okay, As of right now,

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Speaker 1: where are they ranked in the defenses in the state

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Speaker 1: of Florida? Number one? You know better than that. Their

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Speaker 1: third right now based on what they could be by

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Speaker 1: the end of the year. Better but their third. Listen,

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Speaker 1: I'm a believer in Caldwell, Mike Caldbolla. We already went

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Speaker 1: through his last draft and I'm not let's not revisit

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Speaker 1: that love Dave friend, but good guy, the first want

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01:20:42,880 --> 01:20:47,360
Speaker 1: to tell you wasn't a good draft. Next question at that,

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01:20:47,479 --> 01:20:50,960
Speaker 1: underscore guy, underscore Tyler, what's a realistic at look for

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Speaker 1: this team this year? Taking off the teal shades, what

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Speaker 1: do each of you think this of this roster and

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Speaker 1: how should perform this year compared to teams in the

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Speaker 1: a f C. Well, we're doing We're gonna We're gonna

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Speaker 1: pick the wins and losses next week. So I don't

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Speaker 1: want to give away any of my inside information. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I want to save that. It's a tease the business.

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Speaker 1: Um I think. I I mean, if you're being honest,

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Speaker 1: right now, I think it's still probably the third best

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01:21:24,880 --> 01:21:29,240
Speaker 1: roster in the a f C South. I mean, it's

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Speaker 1: just it's hard for me to put it higher just

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Speaker 1: based on the last few years and what teams did

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01:21:33,479 --> 01:21:35,920
Speaker 1: in the off season. Now I think it can jump

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01:21:36,000 --> 01:21:39,719
Speaker 1: ahead of Tennessee. I think Tennessee losing a J Brown

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01:21:39,880 --> 01:21:44,000
Speaker 1: was big um for them. Like I don't think the

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Speaker 1: receiving crew for the Tennessee Titans is scares you much.

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Speaker 1: And I think, you know, that's a team that if

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Speaker 1: if they don't get you know, King Henry going. It's

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01:21:57,600 --> 01:22:00,400
Speaker 1: been proven that Tannehill is not the quarter back who's

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01:22:00,400 --> 01:22:03,400
Speaker 1: going to carry them and carry that offense. And they

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01:22:03,479 --> 01:22:05,560
Speaker 1: got issues on the offensive line too. Yeah, that's what

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01:22:05,600 --> 01:22:09,479
Speaker 1: I'm saying. So I could probably be talked into right

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01:22:09,520 --> 01:22:13,800
Speaker 1: now that the roster, the Jack's roster is better than Tennessee's,

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Speaker 1: But just because of the last few years, it's hard

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Speaker 1: to say that. I think the Colts have the best

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Speaker 1: roster and are the best team going into the season

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Speaker 1: in the South. But you always talk about top five

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01:22:25,320 --> 01:22:29,160
Speaker 1: players in the league. Derrick Henry's the top five running back,

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01:22:29,320 --> 01:22:32,519
Speaker 1: that's my point. Jeffrey Simmons is a top five defensive tackle,

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01:22:33,760 --> 01:22:37,840
Speaker 1: Kevin Byard is a top five safety. There's three right there.

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Speaker 1: I agree with you, Pete, That's what I'm saying. You know,

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01:22:42,640 --> 01:22:44,720
Speaker 1: it'd be hard for me to put them ahead. Now.

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01:22:44,760 --> 01:22:49,920
Speaker 1: Could I talk myself into it? Maybe yes, But I

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01:22:49,960 --> 01:22:53,599
Speaker 1: still think right now, this roster and if you were

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Speaker 1: just taken off, you know, our love for this organization

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Speaker 1: or my love for the organization, it would be hard

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01:23:00,200 --> 01:23:03,240
Speaker 1: to project them higher than third right now in the

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01:23:03,280 --> 01:23:06,200
Speaker 1: AFC South. But you you talked about top five players.

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01:23:06,280 --> 01:23:08,920
Speaker 1: Let's go to the Colts. Jonathan Taylor top five player,

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01:23:09,120 --> 01:23:13,519
Speaker 1: Darius Leonard top five player, um Quit Nelson top five

1405
01:23:13,560 --> 01:23:18,439
Speaker 1: player is the uh I can't think of his name.

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01:23:18,439 --> 01:23:21,400
Speaker 1: Came from San Francisco, three technique. He's not top five,

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01:23:21,439 --> 01:23:23,320
Speaker 1: he's not top five player, but he's not far behind

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01:23:23,360 --> 01:23:26,760
Speaker 1: that though. Yeah, he's a good player. Buckner, Yes, thank you.

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Speaker 1: The final question. We're gonna end with a bank here

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01:23:29,760 --> 01:23:33,000
Speaker 1: at Hello fish Sticks. Does Pete use the same shampoo

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01:23:33,040 --> 01:23:37,759
Speaker 1: and conditioner as Dewey wingered? No, but I cover better.

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01:23:40,200 --> 01:23:44,320
Speaker 1: I would say, Wow, that's a dumb question. Why did

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01:23:44,360 --> 01:23:48,360
Speaker 1: you put that in there? Because Pete has no hand?

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01:23:48,520 --> 01:23:51,000
Speaker 1: Come on, No, that's the whole point of the joke.

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01:23:51,280 --> 01:23:53,360
Speaker 1: I know, I get the joke. Bras Ball, I should

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01:23:53,360 --> 01:23:55,679
Speaker 1: just put that on there. Well, you just should just say, dude,

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01:23:55,880 --> 01:24:00,639
Speaker 1: Pete and JP use the same shampoo. I can say,

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Speaker 1: this is no lie. If I get a thing of shampoo,

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01:24:03,680 --> 01:24:07,559
Speaker 1: it lasts a long time. Why do you even use shampoo?

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01:24:07,600 --> 01:24:11,679
Speaker 1: Why don't you soap? You have no hair? I have hair.

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01:24:11,720 --> 01:24:14,960
Speaker 1: It's just back here. You can't see it. JP, do

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01:24:15,120 --> 01:24:18,799
Speaker 1: use shampoo from time to time? Do you take a shower?

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01:24:18,840 --> 01:24:24,760
Speaker 1: You wash occasionally? Depending on it's once a once a week?

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01:24:24,800 --> 01:24:28,200
Speaker 1: Pe want by walk out of I mean the way

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01:24:28,479 --> 01:24:30,439
Speaker 1: when I said do you use shampoo? You like you

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01:24:30,520 --> 01:24:33,400
Speaker 1: went like you don't take showers or something. I'm worried

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01:24:33,439 --> 01:24:38,000
Speaker 1: about this. It's been a long and winding road here

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01:24:38,000 --> 01:24:44,400
Speaker 1: in Jacksonville. We'll see, yeah, I won't. Yeah, they're gonna

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01:24:44,560 --> 01:24:46,719
Speaker 1: change a little bit. I've seen it. They're gonna help.

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Speaker 1: My hairline is not changing. It's thick, Pete. It's not

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01:24:49,600 --> 01:24:51,720
Speaker 1: going anywhere. If that happens, they have to adjust the

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01:24:51,760 --> 01:24:53,760
Speaker 1: bust and canton. They've got to shave his head. No

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01:24:53,880 --> 01:24:56,320
Speaker 1: they don't. That's not true that you know what I'll do.

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01:24:56,360 --> 01:24:59,240
Speaker 1: It'll make the brow look even further out on the bus.

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Speaker 1: I don't think I' good bald. We do look good now.

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01:25:05,160 --> 01:25:07,640
Speaker 1: My wife who said you look good? My wife, she

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01:25:07,720 --> 01:25:10,960
Speaker 1: told me this morning. I looked very good. She said,

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01:25:11,000 --> 01:25:12,519
Speaker 1: you when you walk out the door today, she said,

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01:25:12,520 --> 01:25:15,439
Speaker 1: you look good today. Maybe when I got out of

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01:25:15,479 --> 01:25:21,920
Speaker 1: the shower, she said, you look Aggie quit Lions. Thanks

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01:25:21,920 --> 01:25:25,840
Speaker 1: for the questions on social media today. We're back in

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01:25:25,920 --> 01:25:31,360
Speaker 1: a moment. Go around the NFL. We go down some

1443
01:25:31,400 --> 01:25:34,920
Speaker 1: paths on this show, don't we We do. That's the

1444
01:25:34,960 --> 01:25:39,680
Speaker 1: beauty of it. I love it around the league when

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01:25:39,720 --> 01:25:42,760
Speaker 1: we let's do this all around. This is the only

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Speaker 1: part we like Pete being around for. It's Jaguars Happy

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Speaker 1: Hour on the Jaguars Digital Network. Welcome back. It's Jaguar's

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Speaker 1: Happy Hour. It is Monday. I am J. P. Shadricks.

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01:25:58,920 --> 01:26:03,280
Speaker 1: That is Tony Basell, that is Pete Prisco Joe Fortunado's

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01:26:03,320 --> 01:26:06,439
Speaker 1: in here. Also Brent Reaber David Choer on the video

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01:26:06,479 --> 01:26:10,320
Speaker 1: tonight thanks to our entire crew. As always, it was

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Speaker 1: go around the National Football League and scary situation in Washington,

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01:26:14,400 --> 01:26:17,479
Speaker 1: d C. Commanders rookie running back Brian Robinson was shot

1454
01:26:17,600 --> 01:26:21,440
Speaker 1: Sunday as the victim and an attempted robbery or carjacking

1455
01:26:21,520 --> 01:26:25,560
Speaker 1: in Northeast Washington, d C. In the district the subspects

1456
01:26:25,560 --> 01:26:28,360
Speaker 1: fled fled the scene. Apparently a firearm was recovered a

1457
01:26:28,400 --> 01:26:31,000
Speaker 1: short distance away. He was shot in the glute and

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01:26:31,120 --> 01:26:34,000
Speaker 1: lower leg. And then on Monday today he had an

1459
01:26:34,000 --> 01:26:37,759
Speaker 1: Instagram post saying he wanted to went surgery and it went, well, Pete,

1460
01:26:37,800 --> 01:26:41,000
Speaker 1: this is something. Now, Yeah, it's scary. I mean, he's

1461
01:26:41,040 --> 01:26:44,640
Speaker 1: lucky it wasn't a lot worse. Um, you know they

1462
01:26:44,720 --> 01:26:47,559
Speaker 1: you know, forget football. I mean, this guy's life was

1463
01:26:47,600 --> 01:26:51,400
Speaker 1: in danger and uh, you know, luckily it wasn't major

1464
01:26:51,800 --> 01:26:53,479
Speaker 1: major in terms of where he was shot. He was

1465
01:26:53,520 --> 01:26:55,880
Speaker 1: shot in the butt in the leg, I think, and

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01:26:55,880 --> 01:26:57,559
Speaker 1: and you know there's some thought he might be able

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01:26:57,600 --> 01:26:59,920
Speaker 1: to play down the road, but that's scary, scary stuff.

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01:27:00,040 --> 01:27:03,800
Speaker 1: And lee wasn't a lot worse than it us was. Yeah,

1469
01:27:03,800 --> 01:27:06,720
Speaker 1: it's it's just it's you feel for the kid, and

1470
01:27:07,560 --> 01:27:10,840
Speaker 1: my goodness, good yeah, good player in a good camp.

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01:27:10,880 --> 01:27:12,400
Speaker 1: I mean, it sounded like he was going to be

1472
01:27:12,439 --> 01:27:14,559
Speaker 1: the starter or at least be in the rotation to

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01:27:14,800 --> 01:27:18,920
Speaker 1: have significant carries. I just hope, and I haven't read

1474
01:27:18,920 --> 01:27:22,080
Speaker 1: the report on it, that he didn't fight to keep

1475
01:27:22,120 --> 01:27:28,080
Speaker 1: his car. Well, give up the give up the car. Well,

1476
01:27:28,080 --> 01:27:31,200
Speaker 1: he's the victim here and whatever happened to him is

1477
01:27:31,640 --> 01:27:35,280
Speaker 1: his tragic and you know, you hate it. Hate what

1478
01:27:35,360 --> 01:27:38,360
Speaker 1: I mean. I'm just saying, somebody comes to me and

1479
01:27:38,439 --> 01:27:40,439
Speaker 1: once my car, have at it, you know what I mean.

1480
01:27:41,320 --> 01:27:43,679
Speaker 1: Can you can replace a car, You can't replace the life.

1481
01:27:43,720 --> 01:27:48,160
Speaker 1: So that's that's all I'm saying. Buccaneers quarterback Tom Brady

1482
01:27:48,240 --> 01:27:50,920
Speaker 1: named the number one player in the Top one Players

1483
01:27:50,960 --> 01:27:53,360
Speaker 1: list for this past season, the fourth time he's topped

1484
01:27:53,400 --> 01:27:56,160
Speaker 1: that list. The players vote on it each year, Is

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01:27:56,160 --> 01:27:59,479
Speaker 1: that right? I don't think Listen, I don't think Tom

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01:27:59,479 --> 01:28:02,679
Speaker 1: Brady's the best player in football right now. I think

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01:28:02,720 --> 01:28:07,160
Speaker 1: that's a respect vote by the players. That list was terrible,

1488
01:28:07,200 --> 01:28:10,680
Speaker 1: by the way. It wasn't bad, it's awful. It was

1489
01:28:10,720 --> 01:28:14,320
Speaker 1: an awful list. What was so bad about it? Go

1490
01:28:14,400 --> 01:28:16,560
Speaker 1: through and you go read it and read it and

1491
01:28:16,600 --> 01:28:20,280
Speaker 1: you'll see. I mean, look, Aaron Donald is the number

1492
01:28:20,320 --> 01:28:22,040
Speaker 1: one player in the national He's not the most valuable

1493
01:28:22,040 --> 01:28:24,519
Speaker 1: player in the national football agin. You wouldn't pick them first,

1494
01:28:24,920 --> 01:28:26,800
Speaker 1: but he's the best. But he's the best player in

1495
01:28:26,840 --> 01:28:30,080
Speaker 1: that he's the best player in the national now wouldn't

1496
01:28:31,000 --> 01:28:33,880
Speaker 1: And he's not better than Patrick Mahomes, not that than

1497
01:28:33,920 --> 01:28:36,800
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers right now. But you know, but I think

1498
01:28:36,880 --> 01:28:39,800
Speaker 1: it's respect for Tom Brady what he has done. And

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01:28:39,840 --> 01:28:42,160
Speaker 1: I'm fine with it. I get it. It's a silly list.

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01:28:42,160 --> 01:28:46,400
Speaker 1: Who cares? It doesn't mean anything. It's only one top

1501
01:28:49,160 --> 01:28:54,439
Speaker 1: Where did you have tom Brady top ten? Yeah? Yeah,

1502
01:28:54,439 --> 01:28:57,519
Speaker 1: So I mean it's I mean, I'm good with it.

1503
01:28:57,560 --> 01:29:01,080
Speaker 1: I mean Tom Brady whatever, you put him one, two, three, whatever,

1504
01:29:01,160 --> 01:29:05,320
Speaker 1: he's a generational player. He'll go down in this generation.

1505
01:29:05,479 --> 01:29:10,600
Speaker 1: Is the greatest football player just from a competitive standpoint.

1506
01:29:10,760 --> 01:29:13,400
Speaker 1: Rings what he did. You know he did in New England,

1507
01:29:13,439 --> 01:29:15,559
Speaker 1: what he did in Tampa. I mean, the guy is

1508
01:29:15,960 --> 01:29:19,000
Speaker 1: you know, it's gonna he's gonna walk into Kington and

1509
01:29:19,040 --> 01:29:25,200
Speaker 1: he'll be Yeah, he'll be what about his ten day hiatus. Yeah,

1510
01:29:25,240 --> 01:29:27,120
Speaker 1: I don't I don't know and don't care, and I'm

1511
01:29:27,120 --> 01:29:30,719
Speaker 1: tired of speculating and all the stupid rumors on the internet.

1512
01:29:31,120 --> 01:29:35,080
Speaker 1: But this is how I described Tom Brady. Get dumb

1513
01:29:35,760 --> 01:29:40,599
Speaker 1: because how I described Tom Brady. Pete. When when you're

1514
01:29:40,640 --> 01:29:43,200
Speaker 1: listening to all time greats, it's gonna be a conversation

1515
01:29:43,600 --> 01:29:47,880
Speaker 1: of you know, it's been Jim Brown, LT, Jerry Rice.

1516
01:29:48,040 --> 01:29:49,559
Speaker 1: I mean, those are the guys that you kind of

1517
01:29:49,560 --> 01:29:53,080
Speaker 1: debate back and forth. Will now add Tom Brady to

1518
01:29:53,240 --> 01:29:56,400
Speaker 1: that conversation as the greatest of all time? Yeah? I

1519
01:29:56,439 --> 01:29:58,559
Speaker 1: used to say Jerry Rice was the greatest football player

1520
01:29:58,600 --> 01:30:00,439
Speaker 1: of all time because if he was better than every

1521
01:30:00,439 --> 01:30:03,960
Speaker 1: receiver who ever played. But now I think it's between

1522
01:30:04,120 --> 01:30:08,920
Speaker 1: him and and uh Tom Brady. So you don't you

1523
01:30:08,920 --> 01:30:11,920
Speaker 1: don't include Jim the Great Jim Brown in that list. Yeah,

1524
01:30:12,200 --> 01:30:14,519
Speaker 1: I guess he's in the conversation. I just think you

1525
01:30:14,560 --> 01:30:17,240
Speaker 1: can make a case for running running backs. There's there's

1526
01:30:17,240 --> 01:30:18,720
Speaker 1: a lot of guys that you could make a case for.

1527
01:30:19,000 --> 01:30:20,960
Speaker 1: You can't make a case for any other receiver except

1528
01:30:21,000 --> 01:30:25,479
Speaker 1: for Jerry Rice. What about LT Man? If imagine of

1529
01:30:25,600 --> 01:30:28,240
Speaker 1: LT had actually cared and didn't party the night before games,

1530
01:30:28,280 --> 01:30:37,000
Speaker 1: and the Bills released rookie punter Matt Arise a Saturday

1531
01:30:37,080 --> 01:30:39,880
Speaker 1: night after a civil lawsuit alleged that he participated in

1532
01:30:39,920 --> 01:30:42,600
Speaker 1: a gang rape of a seventeen year old last October.

1533
01:30:42,920 --> 01:30:45,040
Speaker 1: The team says it found out about the allegation in

1534
01:30:45,120 --> 01:30:48,519
Speaker 1: late July when the alleged victims attorney spoke to a

1535
01:30:48,560 --> 01:30:51,960
Speaker 1: team lawyer. Well, here's my question. Why is it a

1536
01:30:52,040 --> 01:30:56,400
Speaker 1: civil suit? Because what I read was disgusting, in like,

1537
01:30:56,640 --> 01:31:00,320
Speaker 1: just awful, and it is the father of three daughters,

1538
01:31:00,320 --> 01:31:05,120
Speaker 1: like it just like it made me nauseous. Why is

1539
01:31:05,200 --> 01:31:08,200
Speaker 1: it not a criminal charge? If and I'm not saying

1540
01:31:08,240 --> 01:31:11,360
Speaker 1: he's guilty INNOCENTI proven guilty. But if he did what

1541
01:31:11,520 --> 01:31:14,200
Speaker 1: they are alleging he did in the civil suit, why

1542
01:31:14,280 --> 01:31:18,519
Speaker 1: is the San Diego police not locking him up? Why

1543
01:31:18,600 --> 01:31:20,320
Speaker 1: why is it not a criminal charge and only a

1544
01:31:20,360 --> 01:31:23,400
Speaker 1: civil case? Because what I read was you can't I

1545
01:31:23,439 --> 01:31:27,960
Speaker 1: can't even repeat it. No, it's it was vile, But

1546
01:31:29,000 --> 01:31:32,600
Speaker 1: maybe there's not enough to charge him Tony. Based on

1547
01:31:32,600 --> 01:31:34,160
Speaker 1: what I read, that sure seemed like if she went

1548
01:31:34,280 --> 01:31:36,679
Speaker 1: right to the hospital right afterwards and had an interview

1549
01:31:36,680 --> 01:31:39,400
Speaker 1: with police, and had they actually called him on the

1550
01:31:39,439 --> 01:31:42,720
Speaker 1: one and said they had her call him. Yeah, I

1551
01:31:42,760 --> 01:31:45,439
Speaker 1: mean and okay, a couple of things about that, And

1552
01:31:45,680 --> 01:31:47,479
Speaker 1: it builds with all the security people and all the

1553
01:31:47,640 --> 01:31:49,800
Speaker 1: information you get. You didn't know about that when you

1554
01:31:49,920 --> 01:31:54,519
Speaker 1: drafted him, Like how do you even draft a kid now?

1555
01:31:55,400 --> 01:32:00,639
Speaker 1: I mean, if he's innocent, I hope it goes through

1556
01:32:00,680 --> 01:32:02,639
Speaker 1: and and he gets back and he can go work

1557
01:32:02,680 --> 01:32:05,240
Speaker 1: again and someone gives him a chance. But if he's

1558
01:32:05,240 --> 01:32:07,200
Speaker 1: guilty of that, it's more to me, it's more than

1559
01:32:07,240 --> 01:32:09,320
Speaker 1: just paying a fine or paying some money to her,

1560
01:32:10,040 --> 01:32:12,360
Speaker 1: to this poor girl in her family. The guys should

1561
01:32:12,360 --> 01:32:15,560
Speaker 1: be in jail and the in the others that participated

1562
01:32:17,200 --> 01:32:21,680
Speaker 1: again though again innocent until proven guilty. And if the

1563
01:32:21,840 --> 01:32:26,000
Speaker 1: police didn't charge him with it, why didn't they? I'm

1564
01:32:26,000 --> 01:32:27,840
Speaker 1: with you, Pete. That's the only thing that was like,

1565
01:32:28,120 --> 01:32:30,960
Speaker 1: my you know, the my antentas went up of like

1566
01:32:31,600 --> 01:32:34,120
Speaker 1: what's going on here? Because you read the report, you

1567
01:32:34,520 --> 01:32:37,080
Speaker 1: read the civil lawsuit, and I'm like, why has he

1568
01:32:37,280 --> 01:32:41,240
Speaker 1: not been charged with a criminal offense? Well? What about that?

1569
01:32:41,520 --> 01:32:43,160
Speaker 1: Was the same with the Shawn Watson. He had all

1570
01:32:43,200 --> 01:32:45,160
Speaker 1: those he had all those cases against him, but he

1571
01:32:45,160 --> 01:32:50,400
Speaker 1: wasn't charged with a criminal offense. Yeah, it's interesting. Mike

1572
01:32:50,520 --> 01:32:53,559
Speaker 1: Tomlin says they'll name a starting quarterback for the Steelers.

1573
01:32:53,680 --> 01:32:57,840
Speaker 1: Quote at our leisure end. Quote, it's gotta be Kenny Pickett, right, Pete,

1574
01:32:58,640 --> 01:33:01,360
Speaker 1: I don't think so. I think it's gonna beat your bisky.

1575
01:33:01,760 --> 01:33:04,479
Speaker 1: Who would you pick? Well, I think it's who would

1576
01:33:04,520 --> 01:33:07,080
Speaker 1: I pick? I pick pick it, Get on with it,

1577
01:33:07,320 --> 01:33:10,160
Speaker 1: get on with the game. But their offensive okay, this

1578
01:33:10,200 --> 01:33:12,080
Speaker 1: is the people say the offensive line they have is

1579
01:33:12,120 --> 01:33:14,880
Speaker 1: so bad right now that you might ruin him. If

1580
01:33:14,880 --> 01:33:17,599
Speaker 1: you pick guy and you ruin him, then you drafted

1581
01:33:17,640 --> 01:33:19,639
Speaker 1: the wrong guy in the first place. That's my theory

1582
01:33:19,680 --> 01:33:22,920
Speaker 1: on it. You and I have talked about this. We

1583
01:33:23,000 --> 01:33:26,960
Speaker 1: both agree with this because if that's the case, then Um,

1584
01:33:27,000 --> 01:33:28,599
Speaker 1: Troy Aikman wouldn't be in the Hall of Fame because

1585
01:33:28,600 --> 01:33:31,480
Speaker 1: he about got killed this first couple of years. Um

1586
01:33:31,560 --> 01:33:33,839
Speaker 1: Joe Burrow wouldn't have taken the Bengals to the playoffs

1587
01:33:33,880 --> 01:33:38,240
Speaker 1: because he got killed both years. Right, I mean right?

1588
01:33:38,360 --> 01:33:40,360
Speaker 1: You want the guy with the that can come out

1589
01:33:40,360 --> 01:33:43,120
Speaker 1: from underneath all that. Yeah, I just I don't. I

1590
01:33:43,160 --> 01:33:48,800
Speaker 1: don't buy that. I never have you have it. I

1591
01:33:48,880 --> 01:33:53,519
Speaker 1: look around the National Football League at the Jaguars media

1592
01:33:53,600 --> 01:33:58,160
Speaker 1: schedule is out this week. The three practices Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday.

1593
01:33:58,200 --> 01:34:01,599
Speaker 1: Of course, close to the public open locker room is back.

1594
01:34:01,800 --> 01:34:04,479
Speaker 1: You're excited, arn'ts in the week? You know, it's it's

1595
01:34:04,479 --> 01:34:06,040
Speaker 1: gonna be nice to meet some of these guys for

1596
01:34:06,080 --> 01:34:08,840
Speaker 1: the first time. You know what's you know what's funny

1597
01:34:08,920 --> 01:34:11,439
Speaker 1: is a lot of those guys have never been around

1598
01:34:11,479 --> 01:34:15,880
Speaker 1: open locker room since they've been in the league, after

1599
01:34:15,920 --> 01:34:18,439
Speaker 1: the after the preseason games. Is the first one time

1600
01:34:18,479 --> 01:34:21,320
Speaker 1: that's happened in two years. Yeah, I mean, I think

1601
01:34:21,360 --> 01:34:23,679
Speaker 1: it's good. It's time for the media to get back

1602
01:34:23,680 --> 01:34:25,200
Speaker 1: in there. It's part of the game. It's part of

1603
01:34:25,200 --> 01:34:28,559
Speaker 1: your job as a player to interact with the media.

1604
01:34:28,640 --> 01:34:31,160
Speaker 1: So because that's the voice, that's that's the that's the

1605
01:34:31,240 --> 01:34:35,479
Speaker 1: voice of the fans. Yeah, I agree. And now it's

1606
01:34:35,560 --> 01:34:38,040
Speaker 1: changed a bit because everybody has their own Twitter page

1607
01:34:38,080 --> 01:34:42,640
Speaker 1: and yeah, but here's my yes, but because they have

1608
01:34:42,760 --> 01:34:46,240
Speaker 1: direct but you want but the message coming on Instagram

1609
01:34:46,240 --> 01:34:51,200
Speaker 1: and Twitter, it's very pro player perspective. And I'm not

1610
01:34:51,200 --> 01:34:55,960
Speaker 1: saying that's not valuable, but good reporters And I don't

1611
01:34:55,960 --> 01:34:59,200
Speaker 1: want I hesitate to say this because I don't want

1612
01:34:59,280 --> 01:35:02,599
Speaker 1: Pete's head to get a bigger than it was. What

1613
01:35:02,680 --> 01:35:08,560
Speaker 1: Peach gave to the fans was an inside, unbiased, impartial

1614
01:35:09,400 --> 01:35:14,519
Speaker 1: look of what was happening. And that's important for the

1615
01:35:14,520 --> 01:35:16,800
Speaker 1: game of football, and that's important for the fans because

1616
01:35:16,800 --> 01:35:20,840
Speaker 1: as players, we will put the slant and kind of

1617
01:35:21,160 --> 01:35:25,960
Speaker 1: color it to our benefit. I think that's human nature

1618
01:35:27,160 --> 01:35:33,440
Speaker 1: and players out there, if you're listening, talk to the reporters,

1619
01:35:33,880 --> 01:35:37,439
Speaker 1: get to know him and give him the you know,

1620
01:35:37,479 --> 01:35:39,200
Speaker 1: don't you have to give him all the information, but

1621
01:35:39,280 --> 01:35:42,479
Speaker 1: just trust to find guys you trust, and it will

1622
01:35:42,520 --> 01:35:45,640
Speaker 1: be a good relationship back and forth because if you

1623
01:35:45,760 --> 01:35:48,320
Speaker 1: don't talk to him, that makes it worse on you.

1624
01:35:48,439 --> 01:35:50,160
Speaker 1: I hate to tell you that, but it does. It

1625
01:35:50,280 --> 01:35:54,080
Speaker 1: always has. So talk to him, get to know him,

1626
01:35:54,160 --> 01:35:55,800
Speaker 1: and the reporters need to get to know him as

1627
01:35:55,840 --> 01:35:59,160
Speaker 1: people too. Go talk to him about things. He can't

1628
01:35:59,200 --> 01:36:02,040
Speaker 1: walk up to a guy in ambush them. Find out

1629
01:36:02,080 --> 01:36:04,479
Speaker 1: what's going on in his life, find out how they're doing.

1630
01:36:06,400 --> 01:36:10,280
Speaker 1: Everybody's got everybody's a person, there's no doubt. Oh, everybody's

1631
01:36:10,280 --> 01:36:13,639
Speaker 1: a person. That's the stuff you get from JP that

1632
01:36:13,840 --> 01:36:18,479
Speaker 1: everybody's as for the last minute of the show breaking news.

1633
01:36:18,520 --> 01:36:22,000
Speaker 1: That's Capital Week. I'm gonna think about being a person.

1634
01:36:23,479 --> 01:36:25,519
Speaker 1: If you were a tree, what kind of tree would

1635
01:36:25,520 --> 01:36:30,439
Speaker 1: you be? Pete, there's no cyborgs in the NFL, not yet.

1636
01:36:31,400 --> 01:36:34,800
Speaker 1: They're all they're all people. They're person they're all the people,

1637
01:36:34,960 --> 01:36:38,600
Speaker 1: they're all person. Thanks to all our people on this

1638
01:36:38,680 --> 01:36:42,639
Speaker 1: broadcast crew helping us get this show together. That's Pete Frisco,

1639
01:36:43,200 --> 01:36:45,920
Speaker 1: that's Tony VA Sally. I'm J. P. Shadrick. I'm also

1640
01:36:45,960 --> 01:36:48,920
Speaker 1: a person, and it's Jaguars Happy Hour on the Jaguars

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01:36:48,920 --> 01:37:04,879
Speaker 1: Digital Network. Start and sent the stooks and the stops

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01:37:05,080 --> 01:37:07,280
Speaker 1: and sent the quay