WEBVTT - Ambrose on Ike

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<v Speaker 1>Stephen Ambrose was one of America's leading historians. Stephen Ambrose

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<v Speaker 1>passed in two thousand and two, but his storytelling accounts

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<v Speaker 1>can now be heard here at Our American Stories, thanks

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<v Speaker 1>to those who run his estate. Ambrose wrote the definitive

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<v Speaker 1>biography of Dwight Eisenhower. Ike was born in eighteen ninety

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<v Speaker 1>in a rented shack near the railroad tracks in Dennison, Texas.

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<v Speaker 1>He was raised in a family of Mennonites, fundamentalists in

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<v Speaker 1>their Christian faith, were also pacifists. Here's Stephen Ambrose with

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<v Speaker 1>the story of Dwight d.

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<v Speaker 2>Eisenhow Dwight David Eisenhower was a great and a good man.

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<v Speaker 2>These two qualities don't always or even often go together,

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<v Speaker 2>but they did with him. Obviously, that is an assertion

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<v Speaker 2>that needs proof. Let me begin with some definitions. In

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<v Speaker 2>nineteen fifty four, President Eisenhower wrote his childhood friend Sweet

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<v Speaker 2>Hazlet on the subject of greatness. He thought greatness depended

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<v Speaker 2>either on achieving pre eminence in some broad field of

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<v Speaker 2>human thought or endeavor, or on assuming some position of

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<v Speaker 2>great responsibility, and then so discharging his duties as to

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<v Speaker 2>have left a marked and favorable imprint upon the future.

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<v Speaker 2>The qualities of goodness in a man I believe include

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<v Speaker 2>a broad sympathy for the human condition, that is, an

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<v Speaker 2>awareness of human weaknesses and shortcomings, and a willingness to

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<v Speaker 2>be forgiving of them. A sense of responsibility toward others,

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<v Speaker 2>a genuine modesty combined with justified self confidence, a sense

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<v Speaker 2>of humor, and most of all, a love of life

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<v Speaker 2>and of people. That last is the key. Eisenhower loved

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<v Speaker 2>life and he loved people. To me, that's the heart

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<v Speaker 2>of his character. From it flowed all the rest. In

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<v Speaker 2>the fall of nineteen twelve, third class Cadet Dwight Eisenhower,

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<v Speaker 2>twenty two years old, was walking down a hallway at

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<v Speaker 2>West point when a plead running full tilt on some

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<v Speaker 2>fool errand for an upperclassman, ran into him knocked him over.

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<v Speaker 2>Reacting with what he called a bellow of astonishment and

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<v Speaker 2>mock indignation, Eisenhower scornfully demanded, mister dumguard a generic term

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<v Speaker 2>for a pleb, what was your PCs previous condition of servitude?

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<v Speaker 2>What did you do before you became a cadet? And

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<v Speaker 2>then Eisenhower added, sarcastically, you look like a barber. I

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<v Speaker 2>was a barber, sir. It was Eisenhower's turn to go

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<v Speaker 2>red with embarrassment. Without a word, he returned to his room,

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<v Speaker 2>where he told his roommate, I'm never gonna haze another

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<v Speaker 2>pleab as long as I'm at this place. As a

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<v Speaker 2>matter of fact, they'll have to run over and knock

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<v Speaker 2>me out of the company street before I'll make any

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<v Speaker 2>attempt again. I've just done something that was stupid and unforgivable.

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<v Speaker 2>I managed to make a man ashamed of what he

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<v Speaker 2>did to earn a living. He never hazed again, and

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<v Speaker 2>as an adult, he never shamed a man. Respect for others,

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<v Speaker 2>honesty in his dealings, love of life. These were some

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<v Speaker 2>of the basic parts of his character from whence did

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<v Speaker 2>they come? Nurture and nature played their respective roles in

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<v Speaker 2>shaping Dwight Eisenher. Physically, he inherited a strong, tough, big

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<v Speaker 2>athletic body and extremely good looks with a quite fabulous grin,

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<v Speaker 2>along with keen intelligence. He also inherited a strong competitive

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<v Speaker 2>streak from his parents, plus a bad temper, along with

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<v Speaker 2>unquestioning love, stern discipline, ambition, and religion. They made him study.

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<v Speaker 2>His parents did read the Bible aloud, do chores, hold jobs.

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<v Speaker 2>As soon as he was old enough, they instilled in

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<v Speaker 2>him a series of controls over his emotions, his temper.

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<v Speaker 2>Most of all, they gave him a solid Victorian outlook

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<v Speaker 2>on the relations between the sexes and on proper conduct.

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<v Speaker 2>All his life he would blush if he slipped and

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<v Speaker 2>said a hell or a dam in front of a lady.

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<v Speaker 2>Thus he grew up in a strong Christian atmosphere, not

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<v Speaker 2>a sectarian atmosphere. He said once as president that this

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<v Speaker 2>country has to be founded on a strong religious faith,

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<v Speaker 2>and I don't care what it is. What he meant

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<v Speaker 2>was he didn't care if it was Baptist or Methodist,

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<v Speaker 2>or Presbyterian or River Brethren. He wants to find an

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<v Speaker 2>atheist as someone who could watch Southern Methodists play Notre

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<v Speaker 2>Dame and not care who won. As president, he began

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<v Speaker 2>attending church regularly because he felt it was important to

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<v Speaker 2>set an example. It wasn't something that he had done

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<v Speaker 2>earlier in his life, but the religion was always very

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<v Speaker 2>deeply there. He began his first inaugural address with a prayer,

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<v Speaker 2>and it went over so well he decided to begin

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<v Speaker 2>all of his cabinet meetings with prayers. About a year

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<v Speaker 2>after he'd been in office, he was a half hour

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<v Speaker 2>into a cabinet meeting when he slapped himself on the

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<v Speaker 2>head and said, God, we forgot the prayer from his

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<v Speaker 2>parents and from his experiences in Abilene, which is after all,

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<v Speaker 2>almost exactly in the heart of America the lower forty eight.

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<v Speaker 2>He absorbed such values as honesty and fair play and

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<v Speaker 2>all dealings into the very marrow of his bones. He

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<v Speaker 2>abhorred the idea of cheating or lying, and he never

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<v Speaker 2>did either. He also absorbed a fervent attachment to democracy

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<v Speaker 2>that amounted to a religious faith. This grew naturally in

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<v Speaker 2>the soil of that little town out there on Kansas Prairie.

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<v Speaker 1>And you've been listening to Stephen Ambrose tell the story

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<v Speaker 1>of Dwight D. Eisenhower. More of this remarkable story here

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<v Speaker 1>Eisenhower told by the person who wrote the best book

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<v Speaker 1>on Ike and we're talking about Stephen Ambrose. Let's return

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<v Speaker 1>to Ambrose with more of this remarkable story.

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<v Speaker 2>At West Point and in his first twenty five years

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<v Speaker 2>in the army, Eisenhower satisfied few of his ambitions. He

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<v Speaker 2>didn't get to war in the First War, the Great War,

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<v Speaker 2>and he was still a lieutenant colonel when the Second

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<v Speaker 2>World War began and about to be forcibly retired. But

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<v Speaker 2>he had learned his profession, and he had demonstrated another

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<v Speaker 2>characteristic trait, patience, and it was rewarded. After Pearl Harbor,

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<v Speaker 2>his star arose, and soon he was in Washington making

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<v Speaker 2>war plans for Chief of Staff George Marshall, and then

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<v Speaker 2>on to London to take command of the American forces

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<v Speaker 2>in the European theater of operations. This threw him into

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<v Speaker 2>the middle of the great decision making process of the

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<v Speaker 2>Allies at the very highest level in London, dealing daily

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<v Speaker 2>with Prime Minister Winston Churchill. He proved to be an

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<v Speaker 2>outstanding diplomat and politician, not only with Churchill, but with

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<v Speaker 2>de gaul and other French leaders as well. He was

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<v Speaker 2>successful because he was true to his character. The situation

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<v Speaker 2>in North Africa following the invasion in the fall of

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<v Speaker 2>nineteen forty two was exceedingly complicated, with a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>false promises coming from the British, the Americans, to the

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<v Speaker 2>various French factions, but not from Eisner. I know only

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<v Speaker 2>one method of operation, he wrote in his diary, to

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<v Speaker 2>be as honest with others as I am with myself.

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<v Speaker 2>When President Franklin Roosevelt pressured him to get tough with

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<v Speaker 2>the local French. Eisenhower refused, explaining, my whole strength and

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<v Speaker 2>deal with the French has been based upon my refusal

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<v Speaker 2>to quibble or to stoop to any kind of subterfuge

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<v Speaker 2>or double dealing. The French responded to this, De Gaulle

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<v Speaker 2>told him, as long as you say that, I believe it.

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<v Speaker 2>He was equally successful with his sometimes difficult British subordinates

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<v Speaker 2>and his sometimes egotistical American subordinates. And he'd only mentioned

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<v Speaker 2>the names of Montgomery and Patent, and you know what

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<v Speaker 2>I'm talking about. They might not agree with his decisions,

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<v Speaker 2>that they gave him their trust. Indeed, whenever his wartime

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<v Speaker 2>associates described Eisenhower, whether they were superiors or subordinates, there

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<v Speaker 2>was one word that almost every one of them used.

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<v Speaker 2>It was trust. General Montgomery didn't think much of Eisenhower

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<v Speaker 2>as a soldier, but he appreciated other qualities. His real

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<v Speaker 2>strength lies in his human qualities. Montgomery that he has

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<v Speaker 2>the power of drawing the hearts of men towards him,

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<v Speaker 2>as the magnet attracts the bit of metal. He merely

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<v Speaker 2>has to smile at you, and you trust him at once.

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<v Speaker 2>Scrupulous honesty was an integral part of Eisenhower's character and

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<v Speaker 2>a learned experience. He saw an experience the payoff for

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<v Speaker 2>this trust. He knew that telling the truth was the

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<v Speaker 2>only way to deal effectively with his problems. He also

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<v Speaker 2>developed a technique to deliver his message. I refuse, he wrote,

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<v Speaker 2>I refuse to put anything in diplomatic or suave terminology,

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<v Speaker 2>and carefully cultivate the manner and reputation of complete bluntness

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<v Speaker 2>and honesty. Just a man too simple minded to indulge

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<v Speaker 2>in circumlocution. Thus did the Kansas farm boy approach Charles

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<v Speaker 2>de gaulle, An Winston Kirchill, and Franklin Roosevelt and so

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<v Speaker 2>many others, and it always worked. He was the general

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<v Speaker 2>who hated war. Some like pat and gloried in it,

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<v Speaker 2>but Eisenhower could not. He signed every letter of condolence

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<v Speaker 2>coming out of Europe for three years, a very sobering experience.

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<v Speaker 2>He was the one who ordered the bombing and shelling

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<v Speaker 2>of German cities. He hated doing that too, hated having

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<v Speaker 2>to destroy when he wanted to build, but he did

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<v Speaker 2>his duty with all his skill and energy. In nineteen

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<v Speaker 2>forty three, his older brother Arthur sent him a newspaper

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<v Speaker 2>clipping that stressed his mother's pacifism and the irony of

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<v Speaker 2>her son being a general. Eisenow wrote back to say

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<v Speaker 2>of the pacifist, I doubt whether any of them detest

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<v Speaker 2>war as I do. They probably have not seen bodies

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<v Speaker 2>riding on the ground, or smelled the stench of decaying

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<v Speaker 2>human flesh. Probably they have not visited a field hospital

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<v Speaker 2>crowded with the desperately wounded. What separates me from the

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<v Speaker 2>pacifist is that I hate the Nazis more than I

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<v Speaker 2>hate war. He told Mamy in a wartime letter. I

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<v Speaker 2>think that all these trials and tribulations must come upon

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<v Speaker 2>the world because of some great wickedness. Yet one would

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<v Speaker 2>feel that man's mere intelligence, to say nothing of his

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<v Speaker 2>spiritual perceptions, would find some way of eliminating war. The

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<v Speaker 2>contrast between Eisenhower and those generals who gloried in war

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<v Speaker 2>could not have been greater. He had a very keen

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<v Speaker 2>sense of family, of the way in which each casualty

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<v Speaker 2>meant a grieving family back home. In nineteen sixty three,

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<v Speaker 2>when he was filming with Walter Cronkite a television special

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<v Speaker 2>entitled D Day Plus Twenty Years cronkite sitting on that

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<v Speaker 2>stone wall that looks onto that magnificent cemetery at Omaha.

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<v Speaker 2>Conkie asked him what he thought about when he returned

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<v Speaker 2>to Normandy. In reply, he spoke not of the things

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<v Speaker 2>that other generals would have brought up. He didn't speak

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<v Speaker 2>about the tanks or the guns, or the planes or

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<v Speaker 2>the ships, or the personalities of the commanders of their opponents,

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<v Speaker 2>or how he fooled the Germans or of the victory. Instead,

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<v Speaker 2>he spoke of the families of the men buried in

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<v Speaker 2>the American cemetery. He said he could never come to

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<v Speaker 2>this spot without thinking of how blessed he and Mami

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<v Speaker 2>were to have grandchildren, and how much it saddened him

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<v Speaker 2>to think of all the couples in America who had

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<v Speaker 2>never had that blessing because their only son was buried here.

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<v Speaker 2>So far, he looks like a saint, But he was

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<v Speaker 2>a healthy, vigorous man in his early fifties during the war,

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<v Speaker 2>and men at war are notoriously receptive to female charm

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<v Speaker 2>when they are far from home and close to danger.

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<v Speaker 2>For many people, the test of character is the marriage vow.

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<v Speaker 2>In other words, what about Kay Summersby Kay was Ike's

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<v Speaker 2>personal secretary and sometime driver. She was young enough to

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<v Speaker 2>be his daughter, very attractive, with a bubbly personality The

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<v Speaker 2>Churchill and almost everyone else found charming. She had lost

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<v Speaker 2>her fiance in North Africa and had fallen in love

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<v Speaker 2>with her boss. For his part, how could he help

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<v Speaker 2>it be responsive? He liked her enormously, probably had a

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<v Speaker 2>crush on her. They were always together, but almost never alone.

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<v Speaker 2>Decades later, in a book published after her death, Kay

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<v Speaker 2>claimed that they had fallen in love and that both

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<v Speaker 2>had realized it. In January nineteen forty four, when he

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<v Speaker 2>returned to England from a short visit to Washington, they

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<v Speaker 2>had their only evening together alone. There was a fireplace.

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<v Speaker 2>They sat on the floor. His kisses absolutely unrattled me,

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<v Speaker 2>Kay wrote. According to her account, it was a passionate

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<v Speaker 2>but unconsummated experience, because after they took off each other's clothes,

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<v Speaker 2>Eisenhower was flaccied. This may have been because, as one

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<v Speaker 2>aid put it in a grand understatement, he had a

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<v Speaker 2>lot on his mind. More likely, it seems to me

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<v Speaker 2>his stern sense of morality, character, and honesty overwrote his passion.

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<v Speaker 2>He was incapable of cheating on his wife, or maybe

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<v Speaker 2>if the incident never happened, that it was merely an

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<v Speaker 2>old woman's fantasy. No one will ever know. What is

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<v Speaker 2>important to note is that not even Kay ever claimed

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<v Speaker 2>that they had a genuine love affair. Nor is it

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<v Speaker 2>true that Eisenhower asked President Harry Truman permissioned to divorce

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<v Speaker 2>his wife in order to marry Kay, which was always

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<v Speaker 2>a ridiculous story to begin with, because he was a

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<v Speaker 2>five star general. They don't ask anybody's permission to do anything.

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<v Speaker 2>What he did ask Truman for was permission to have

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<v Speaker 2>Mamie join him and occupied Germany throughout the war. When

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<v Speaker 2>Kay was with him always, his love for Mamie was constant.

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<v Speaker 2>His sustaining force was the thought that when the war

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<v Speaker 2>was over, he and Mamie could live together again. He

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<v Speaker 2>loved Mami for half a century, except when he was

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<v Speaker 2>off at war. They slept in the same bed for

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<v Speaker 2>fifty years.

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<v Speaker 1>And you've been listening to the voice of Stephen Ambrose.

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<v Speaker 1>The story of Dwight D. Eisenhower continues here on our

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<v Speaker 1>American stories, And we continue with our American stories and

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<v Speaker 1>with the story of Dwight D. Eisenhower is told by

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<v Speaker 1>Stephen Ambrose Let's return to the story.

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<v Speaker 2>Loving Mamy did not necessarily preclude loving Kay, or at

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<v Speaker 2>least loving her under the special situation in which they

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<v Speaker 2>lived from the summer of nineteen forty two to the

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<v Speaker 2>spring of nineteen forty five. He was lucky to have

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<v Speaker 2>her around, and the Allies were lucky she was there.

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<v Speaker 2>The best advice in attempting to pass any judgment on

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<v Speaker 2>the Eisenhower Summersby relationship was given by one of Eisenhower's

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<v Speaker 2>staff officers to an office gossip back in nineteen forty three.

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<v Speaker 2>Leave Kay and Ike alone. She's helping him win the war.

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<v Speaker 2>In nineteen thirty nine, when it looked like he might

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<v Speaker 2>be forcibly retired as a tenant colonel, his son John

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<v Speaker 2>had asked him if he regretted having spent his career

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<v Speaker 2>in the army. Not at all, he is now replied.

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<v Speaker 2>He said, he had found his life in the army

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<v Speaker 2>wonderfully interesting. It brought me into contact with men of ability, honor,

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<v Speaker 2>and a sense of high dedication to their country. The

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<v Speaker 2>real satisfaction for a man is to do the best

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<v Speaker 2>he can. My ambition in the army was to make

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<v Speaker 2>everybody I worked for regretful when I was ordered to

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<v Speaker 2>other duty. Leadership was another part of his character. He

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<v Speaker 2>was born to lead, and he was trained to lead.

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<v Speaker 2>He told John once that leadership was the one art

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<v Speaker 2>that could be learned. But of course only the born

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<v Speaker 2>leader can say that. Eisenhower reinforced his natural talent. He

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<v Speaker 2>studied the subject of leadership intensely, and he wrote some

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<v Speaker 2>of his best analytical material on the subject. An important

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<v Speaker 2>part of leadership for Eisenhower rested on certain matters of character.

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<v Speaker 2>These included modesty and a genuine eagerness to share the applause. Thus,

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<v Speaker 2>through the war, he never forgot how much he was

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<v Speaker 2>dependent on others. Thus, through the war, when reporters came

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<v Speaker 2>to him, he would say, go see Bradley, Go see Patent,

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<v Speaker 2>get your story. There. They're the ones that are winning

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<v Speaker 2>this war for us. Sharing the credit for a success

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<v Speaker 2>and taking the personal blame for what went wrong was

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<v Speaker 2>Eisenhower's leadership style. In all the announcements of D Day,

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<v Speaker 2>the operative words were the allies or we, and the

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<v Speaker 2>announcement Eisenhower wrote by hand to release to the press

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<v Speaker 2>in the event of failure. The operative word was I,

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<v Speaker 2>as in it's all my fault. Always take your job seriously,

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<v Speaker 2>never yourself, was one of his favorite lines. A corollary

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<v Speaker 2>to that sentiment was his willingness to sacrifice himself for

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<v Speaker 2>the good of the whole. In early nineteen forty four,

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<v Speaker 2>Eisenhower wanted to put the Allied bombers to work on

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<v Speaker 2>transportation targets in France in order to isolate Normandy. The

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<v Speaker 2>bomber commander said no, they wanted to continue the strategic

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<v Speaker 2>bombing campaign inside Germany. Eisenhower felt so strongly about the

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<v Speaker 2>issue that he told the combined chiefs of staff that

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<v Speaker 2>either they gave him his transportation targets railroads and turntables

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<v Speaker 2>and marshaling yards and bridges and the like in France,

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<v Speaker 2>or I'm simply going to have to go home. In

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<v Speaker 2>other words, Eisenhower was not ready to commit his forces

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<v Speaker 2>to the attack until he was certain that he had

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<v Speaker 2>utilized every asset he had to the uttermost. If he

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<v Speaker 2>couldn't use the assets as he saw fit, he would

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<v Speaker 2>resign his commission. When he made the threat, he was

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<v Speaker 2>holding the most coveted command in the history of war warfare.

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<v Speaker 2>He got his way, and the transportation plan was a

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<v Speaker 2>big success. He later used the same threat in a

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<v Speaker 2>knockdown dispute with Montgomery over strategy and command, and he

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<v Speaker 2>again had his way. It was an integral part of him,

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<v Speaker 2>this ability to know exactly when to use his personal asset,

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<v Speaker 2>the power of his name, to make the ultimate threat.

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<v Speaker 2>It showed a nice sense of balance about political factors

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<v Speaker 2>and an accurate measurement of his own strength in a

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<v Speaker 2>struggle over policy. He much preferred working with the team

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<v Speaker 2>to having to act on his own. A stress on

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<v Speaker 2>teamwork began when he was a child, showed again at

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<v Speaker 2>West Point and was reinforced by his experiences as a

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<v Speaker 2>football coach on various army bases in the nineteen twenties.

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<v Speaker 2>By nineteen fifty two, the year Eisenhower entered into politics

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<v Speaker 2>at age sixty two, his character is formed by heredity

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<v Speaker 2>and experience, was set and cement. It included, as I

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<v Speaker 2>have said, the qualities of love, honesty, faithfulness, responsibility, modesty, generosity, duty,

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<v Speaker 2>and leadership, along with the hatred of war. These were

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<v Speaker 2>bedrock or were they? This paragon of virtue I am

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<v Speaker 2>describing had lived in the shelter of the army nearly

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<v Speaker 2>all of his life. Character testing opportunities or temptations were

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<v Speaker 2>almost unknown to him. It's easy to be virtuous when

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<v Speaker 2>virtue is rewarded, and this will be a hard seldom

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<v Speaker 2>any veterans in here, but it usually is in the army.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not so easy to be virtuous when virtue is

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<v Speaker 2>ignored and partisanship is rewarded, as in politics. He grew

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<v Speaker 2>up in the army, and he swore like a sergeant,

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<v Speaker 2>although the words used were never a secrule or had

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<v Speaker 2>anything to do with anatomy. They were always christ and

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<v Speaker 2>damned and goddamn and words like that. Once he was

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<v Speaker 2>at a luncheon with some cabinet members during the fifty

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<v Speaker 2>six reelection campaign, and someone said something about somebody proposing something,

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<v Speaker 2>and Eisenhawers snorted, these damned amateurs. He said, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>there's only in all the world, there's only two places

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<v Speaker 2>where amateurs think that they're better than the professionals, military

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<v Speaker 2>strategy and prostitution. Now, this was an all male luncheon,

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<v Speaker 2>and having said that, he blushed and confessed a bit shamefacedly.

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<v Speaker 2>That's the only off color story I know. Where his

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<v Speaker 2>character showed most decisively was on questions of war and

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<v Speaker 2>more specific a first strike against the Soviet Union or

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<v Speaker 2>in Asia. He was president during the worst decade of

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<v Speaker 2>the Cold War. He was the only president to have

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<v Speaker 2>a decisive lead over the Soviets and nuclear weapons, a

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<v Speaker 2>lead so decisive that he could have ordered a preventative

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<v Speaker 2>war which would have destroyed the Soviet Union as a

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<v Speaker 2>military power, and they would have been unable to retaliate.

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<v Speaker 2>Given the amounts of money the United States was spending

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<v Speaker 2>in the arms race and the fear it engendered, and

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<v Speaker 2>the fact that the Soviets would soon be able to

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<v Speaker 2>retaliate and eventually might pull even in nuclear weaponry, the

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<v Speaker 2>temptation to use the bomb while we still had the

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<v Speaker 2>lead was tremendous at the time of the nbn FU

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<v Speaker 2>in nineteen fifty four, during the various crises over the

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<v Speaker 2>Chinese offshore islands in the mid fifties, and regularly with

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<v Speaker 2>regard to the Soviet Union, some of Eisenhower's principal advisers

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<v Speaker 2>gave into that temptation. These included his joint chiefs of Staff,

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<v Speaker 2>his vice president, his Secretary of State, members of his

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<v Speaker 2>National Security Council, and many pundits. Told on May one,

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<v Speaker 2>nineteen fifty four, that the National Security Consul was preparing

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<v Speaker 2>a paper calling for the use of atomic bombs to

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<v Speaker 2>save the French at d NBN. Foo Eyes now responded,

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<v Speaker 2>I certainly do not think that the Adam bomb can

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<v Speaker 2>be used by the United States unilaterally. He then went

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<v Speaker 2>on to get to the heart of the matter. You

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<v Speaker 2>boys must be crazy. We can't use those awful things

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<v Speaker 2>against Asians. For the second time in less than ten years.

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<v Speaker 1>My God, and you're listening to Steven Ambrose recounting many

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<v Speaker 1>of the stories he told in his definitive biography of

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<v Speaker 1>Dwight D. Eisenhower. And I love a few of the

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<v Speaker 1>things he said about Ike's leadership style, and this the

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<v Speaker 1>most important. Sharing the credit for success and taking the

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<v Speaker 1>blame for what went wrong was his leadership style. And

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<v Speaker 1>this quote perhaps best states his character. Always take your

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<v Speaker 1>job seriously, not yourself. When we come back, more of

0:27:13.040 --> 0:27:17.119
<v Speaker 1>this remarkable story with one of the great storytellers in

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<v Speaker 1>American history telling the story of one of the great

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<v Speaker 1>military leaders in American history. Ambrose on Eisenhower. Here on

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<v Speaker 1>our American stories, and we continue here with our American stories,

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<v Speaker 1>and the story of Dwight D. Eisenhower is told by

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<v Speaker 1>Stephen Ambrose. Let's return to the story.

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<v Speaker 2>It was characteristic of him always to ask what happens next?

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<v Speaker 2>If we do suck and Soul, what are the likely consequences?

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<v Speaker 2>Suppose we do pull it off, then what and what

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<v Speaker 2>do the other players do? It was an attempt to

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<v Speaker 2>look into the future, and it stood him in good

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<v Speaker 2>stead as president. After DNB and Food fell, the Joint

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<v Speaker 2>Chiefs recommended a preventative attack against the Soviet Union. Eisenhower

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<v Speaker 2>asked them to think about what they were proposing. I

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<v Speaker 2>want you to carry this question home with you. Gain

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<v Speaker 2>such a victory, and what are you going to do

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<v Speaker 2>with it? Here would be a great area from the

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<v Speaker 2>Elba River all the way to vladis Vostok, just torn

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<v Speaker 2>up and destroyed, without government, without its communications, just an

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<v Speaker 2>area of starvation disaster. I ask you, what would the

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<v Speaker 2>civilized world do about it? I repeat, there is no

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<v Speaker 2>victory accept in your imagination. Another quality was patience. Make

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<v Speaker 2>no mistakes in a hurry was a favorite axiom of his.

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<v Speaker 2>When advisors urged him to destroy the Soviet Union while

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<v Speaker 2>you can still get away with it, he told them

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<v Speaker 2>to be patient. But in the end, the Soviet system

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<v Speaker 2>would implode because it was rotten at its core. That

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<v Speaker 2>this would take a long time, maybe as long as

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<v Speaker 2>fifty years, but they would have to educate their own

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<v Speaker 2>people in order to stay up with modern technology, and

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<v Speaker 2>when they did, they would sow the seeds of their

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<v Speaker 2>own undoing. He was a good steward. His farewell aness,

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<v Speaker 2>he pointed out, you and I our government must avoid

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<v Speaker 2>plundering for our own ease and convenience the precious resources

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<v Speaker 2>of tomorrow. We cannot mortgage the material assets of our

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<v Speaker 2>grandchildren without risking the loss also of their political and

0:29:46.880 --> 0:29:51.880
<v Speaker 2>spiritual heritage. And then he uttered, what of all his

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<v Speaker 2>lines is my all time favorite? He said, we want

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<v Speaker 2>democracy survive for all ages to come. That faith in

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<v Speaker 2>democracy was total, even after five years of dealing with Congress.

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<v Speaker 2>In nineteen fifty seven, he told Swede, each congressman thinks

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<v Speaker 2>of himself as intensely patriotic, but it does not take

0:30:19.680 --> 0:30:22.320
<v Speaker 2>the average member long to conclude that his first duty

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<v Speaker 2>to his country is to get himself re elected. This

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<v Speaker 2>leads to a capacity for rationalization that is beyond belief.

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<v Speaker 2>It was characteristic of him to seek compromise extremes to

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<v Speaker 2>the right and to the left of any political dispute

0:30:38.720 --> 0:30:44.920
<v Speaker 2>are always wrong. He liked to say. The Democrats controlled

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<v Speaker 2>Congress for six of his eight years in office. He

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<v Speaker 2>got on with them smoothly. A brief assessment of his

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<v Speaker 2>accomplishments as president reveals something more of the man and

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<v Speaker 2>his character. First and foremost, he presided over eight years

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<v Speaker 2>of prosperity, marred only by two minor recessions. By later standards,

0:31:05.840 --> 0:31:09.280
<v Speaker 2>it was a period of nearly full employment. The average

0:31:09.320 --> 0:31:13.920
<v Speaker 2>unemployment rate in the fifties was four percent and no inflation.

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<v Speaker 2>The average inflation rate in the nineteen fifties was one

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<v Speaker 2>and a half percent a year, about which he worried offlly.

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<v Speaker 2>There was a four percent rise in real wages each

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<v Speaker 2>year for blue collar workers. Indeed, by almost every standard

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<v Speaker 2>GNP personal income and savings, home buying, auto purchases, capital investment,

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<v Speaker 2>highway construction, and so forth, it was the best decade

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<v Speaker 2>of the century. Shirley Eisenhower's fiscal policies, his refusal to

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<v Speaker 2>cut taxes or increased defense spending, his insistence on a

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<v Speaker 2>balanced budget, played some role in creating this happy situation.

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<v Speaker 2>His special triumphs came in the field of foreign affairs

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<v Speaker 2>and were directly directly related to his character. By making

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<v Speaker 2>peace in Korea five months after taking office and avoiding

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<v Speaker 2>war thereafter, and by holding down the cost of the

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<v Speaker 2>arms race, he achieved greatness. No one knows how much

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<v Speaker 2>money he saved the United States. No one knows how

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<v Speaker 2>many lives he saved by ending the war in Korea

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<v Speaker 2>and refusing to enter any others, despite a half dozen

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<v Speaker 2>and more virtually unanimous recommendations to do so, Dn ben Fu,

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<v Speaker 2>Kumoi Matsu, many others. But he made peace, and he

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<v Speaker 2>kept the peace. Whether any other man could have led

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<v Speaker 2>the country through that decade without going to war cannot

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<v Speaker 2>be known. What we do know is that Eisenwer did it.

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<v Speaker 2>Eisnower seldom boasted, but he did on this one. The

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<v Speaker 2>United States never lost a soldier or a foot of

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<v Speaker 2>ground in my administration. He said, we kept the peace.

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<v Speaker 2>People ask how it happened. By God, it didn't just happen.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll tell you that his magnetic appeal to millions of

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<v Speaker 2>his fellow citizens seemed to come about as a natural

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<v Speaker 2>and effortless result of his sunny disposition. But he worked

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<v Speaker 2>at his apparent artlessness. That big grin and bouncy step

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<v Speaker 2>often masked depression, doubt, or utter weariness. He believed it

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<v Speaker 2>was the critical duty of a leader to always exude optimism.

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<v Speaker 2>He made it a habit to save all of his

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<v Speaker 2>doubts for his pibble. For forty years, he changed smoked

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<v Speaker 2>cigarettes four packs a day. At age fifty eight, he

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<v Speaker 2>quit cold turkey, and he never again touched tobacco. Clearly

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<v Speaker 2>he was a man of tremendous willpower, although at the

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<v Speaker 2>Paris Summit, the abortive Paris Summit in nineteen sixty when

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<v Speaker 2>Khrushoff was going on and on about Francis Gary powers

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<v Speaker 2>and the YouTube and demanding an apology and pounding the

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<v Speaker 2>table and saw an eyesower scribbled on the back of

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<v Speaker 2>his minimal pad, God, I wish I had a cigarette.

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<v Speaker 2>He used that tremendous willpower to conquer his own most

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<v Speaker 2>negative characteristic, an awful temper. When he got mad, it

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<v Speaker 2>just everybody knew immediately. His face just lit up, beat red,

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<v Speaker 2>and and the tension in his body was a palpable

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<v Speaker 2>thing that could be felt all through the room. His

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<v Speaker 2>aides lived in terror of those moments of outbreak of

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<v Speaker 2>his temper. Now anger that has contrived that is put

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<v Speaker 2>on for show and a purpose. An actor's anger can

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<v Speaker 2>be an effective tool leadership, It was one eyes now

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<v Speaker 2>often used, but genuine anger, deep blind anger, is the

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<v Speaker 2>enemy of leadership. Eyes Noower often felt it with Montgomery,

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<v Speaker 2>with McCarthy, with others, but he never acted on it.

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<v Speaker 2>One way he controlled his anger was to do his

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<v Speaker 2>best to follow his own rule, never question another man's motives.

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<v Speaker 2>His wisdom, yes, but not his motives. He also tried

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<v Speaker 2>to always assume the best about others until shown otherwise.

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<v Speaker 2>He could do so consistently, even in a world full

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<v Speaker 2>of high powered men whose motives were often self serving

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<v Speaker 2>or base. Because of this most outstanding personal characteristic of

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<v Speaker 2>his love for life and for people. No one ever

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<v Speaker 2>caught this better than Richard Nixon, who observed on the

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<v Speaker 2>day Eisenhower died in nineteen sixty nine that everybody loved

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<v Speaker 2>Ike because I c lobbed everybody. Nixon went on to

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<v Speaker 2>confess that he could scarcely believe such a thing was possible,

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<v Speaker 2>because he said, in my experience, most politicians are men

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<v Speaker 2>with very strong hatreds. But Lord knows that Nixon was

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<v Speaker 2>a man full of such feelings and a man who

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<v Speaker 2>always questioned the other guy's motives. But as Verisenhower, the

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<v Speaker 2>only man he ever really hated was Adolf Hitler. He

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<v Speaker 2>was the general who hated war, but who hated the

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<v Speaker 2>Nazis more. He was old fashioned, a Victorian who came

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<v Speaker 2>to power in the mid twentieth century. His virtues were

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<v Speaker 2>those of the nineteenth century. Honesty, integrity, and religious devotion

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<v Speaker 2>and conviction were some of them. To my knowledge, he

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<v Speaker 2>never lied in his private life, not once. And his

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<v Speaker 2>public responsibilities he lied twice, once in nineteen forty four

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<v Speaker 2>to Hitler about where he was going to invade, and

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<v Speaker 2>once again on May Day, nineteen sixty to Khrushoff about

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<v Speaker 2>what Francis gary Powers was doing in that U two

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<v Speaker 2>over the Soviet Union. In my own life, when I'm

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<v Speaker 2>faced with a moral question, or a dilemma, or a

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<v Speaker 2>personal problem of choice, I'm in the habit of asking myself,

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<v Speaker 2>what would I do? Sad to relate, I often come

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<v Speaker 2>up short of his standards. My only consolation is that

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<v Speaker 2>so do most of the men I know for whose

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<v Speaker 2>lives I have studied.

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<v Speaker 1>And you've been listening to Steven Ambrose and what storytelling

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<v Speaker 1>A special thanks to the estate. Also to Greg Hangler

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<v Speaker 1>for pulling that all together. The story of Dwight D.

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<v Speaker 1>Eisenhower told by Stephen Ambrose here on our American Stories