Speaker 1: Yeah, you don't.
Speaker 2: Don't ask your question.
Speaker 3: Let's just keep it real, straight shot with no chasing.
Speaker 3: So I'm gonna get a little bit rougher. I'm here
Speaker 3: for it. Those who really believed in the American process,
Speaker 3: all of us Street Shot, No Chase with your Girl
Speaker 3: Chesselm figure out on the Black Effect Podcast Network, The
Speaker 3: straight Shot, No Chase, the Testlim Figure Row, Marcella's Road.
Speaker 3: Might as well might as well just go aha and
Speaker 3: start calling you co host. You've been showing up a
Speaker 3: lot over the last four or five months.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, put some respect on my name.
Speaker 3: On came you came up? Maybe we need to call
Speaker 3: you as you officially holds out, I can't remember what
Speaker 3: season I'm on, but uh, this is the fifth year
Speaker 3: with Black Effects Podcast Network. Very excited to be day
Speaker 3: one as I look at Charlemagne and how you know,
Speaker 3: he just continues to grow this network. It is just
Speaker 3: so impressive. He added two more Carlos King for those
Speaker 3: who are may or may not be familiar with him
Speaker 3: Reality with the King. He is a real big producer
Speaker 3: in reality TV. You know, was a producer on many
Speaker 3: of the mini seasons on the Housewives series. Married to medicine,
Speaker 3: a plthor of other things. I'm not big in reality,
Speaker 3: you know, to name them all. But I did an
Speaker 3: interview on Revolte News and learned a lot and he
Speaker 3: has a really, really big following, and so now he's
Speaker 3: brought that over to the podcast, to Black Effect podcast Networks.
Speaker 3: So he announced it on Breakfast Club and I shared
Speaker 3: it on my Instagram and he thanked me, you know,
Speaker 3: very humble, very nice, nice guy, you know that that
Speaker 3: appreciated that. So shout out to Carlos King. Looked forward
Speaker 3: to big things. Also, it used to be horrible decisions,
Speaker 3: but then they went from horrible decisions to decision decisions.
Speaker 3: But now Mandy has a spin off show, another show
Speaker 3: that she's doing as well in addition still to decision decisions.
Speaker 3: So people are just doing podcasts after podcasts, spending off
Speaker 3: two three podcasts at the same time, four days a week,
Speaker 3: and here we be sitting on very struggling just just
Speaker 3: to do one or two. But I don't know if
Speaker 3: people notice we have increased. I've been doing three, four
Speaker 3: or five some weeks, you know, over the last couple
Speaker 3: of months, and I want to keep that energy up hopefully,
Speaker 3: you know, it's made a difference. And you guys, you know,
Speaker 3: having something to tap into I'm trying to steal. Even
Speaker 3: though it's been five years, you're still always growing, You're
Speaker 3: still you know, always trying to see what works, what
Speaker 3: doesn't work, what's the best format. I know people wanted
Speaker 3: me to go over the news a lot, but it's
Speaker 3: also been really heavy on me, Marcella's to make sure
Speaker 3: that we're giving people information. You know, it's like everybody's
Speaker 3: talking about the same stories over and over. Everybody got
Speaker 3: a hot take and everybody, you know, this is what
Speaker 3: such as us said about it, I said about it,
Speaker 3: and I just want to be a place for solution
Speaker 3: based you know, how to do because we are in
Speaker 3: a crisis, whether you want to admit it or not,
Speaker 3: whether you like it or not, we are in a
Speaker 3: crisis and it is going to get worse before it
Speaker 3: gets better. And that's not a scare tactic. It's not
Speaker 3: you know, trying to just you know, say something, just
Speaker 3: be saying something. It's just the reality, guys. And like
Speaker 3: I mentioned on last show, you're not moving to Ghana,
Speaker 3: you know, so let's knock it off. You're you're not
Speaker 3: moving to Ghana. A lot of you can't even go
Speaker 3: to a family reunion, you know, from one side of
Speaker 3: the country, two or the other, let alone Ghana. So
Speaker 3: the reality is the majority of us will be over here.
Speaker 3: The reality is almost sixty percent of Black Americas live
Speaker 3: in the South, meaning red states. So the reality is
Speaker 3: we will all have to deal with this period. Y'all
Speaker 3: can post a million videos about oh, white people getting
Speaker 3: affected more than us and all of that. I don't
Speaker 3: give it down. I don't even know why, y'all. I
Speaker 3: don't even know why a lot of it. I guess
Speaker 3: they gotta do it because maybe they want to shout
Speaker 3: out to Joe read us. Looking at the videos she
Speaker 3: did and Nina Turner was on it, and they was, you know,
Speaker 3: talking about how white people are gonna be most affected
Speaker 3: by this, and you know, I don't like. What's I don't.
Speaker 3: I don't what's the point. I guess that's important to
Speaker 3: be out there. I guess I told you so, or
Speaker 3: you guys are getting it worse, I guess. But to
Speaker 3: be honest with you myselfs I don't give it down.
Speaker 3: What if they're affected more or not. I'm only concerned.
Speaker 3: My only concern is how is this affecting us? And
Speaker 3: I Even though that's important information to have out, I
Speaker 3: just think it brought a lot of people to sleep
Speaker 3: on what the main thing is? You know? Do y'all
Speaker 3: told you souls? And yeah, y'all getting what y'all? I
Speaker 3: get that. But at the end of the day, if
Speaker 3: we're both on the train track, now use this analogy.
Speaker 3: The other day, we're both standing on the train track,
Speaker 3: me and a white woman. My concern is, how do
Speaker 3: I get off the train track. I'm not gonna sit
Speaker 3: up there and say, well, you on the train track too.
Speaker 3: You closer to the train track. You know. If you
Speaker 3: closer to the train and I am, you know you
Speaker 3: you gonna get hit. First bottom line is I'm gonna
Speaker 3: get hit, right, that's the bottom line. So why are
Speaker 3: we not spending our time? And I guess I'm sound
Speaker 3: like them are our time? I don't give a shit
Speaker 3: what they doing. I'm let me let me rephrase it,
Speaker 3: let me take my own advice. All people shit if
Speaker 3: they spend their time about it, than not. Here we're
Speaker 3: gonna spend time on. We're on the train track, the
Speaker 3: train is coming, and what can we do? Yeah, that's it.
Speaker 3: That's all.
Speaker 2: That's all.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, I was watching Funny I need you know.
Speaker 3: I've been in the show a couple of times. He's
Speaker 3: been to mind, great supporter. His fans are great supporters
Speaker 3: of mine. We crossed pollinate on a lot of things.
Speaker 3: And I remember when I went to the show early
Speaker 3: this year and he was saying, you know, he's resting.
Speaker 3: He said he's gonna be resting and sitting in his
Speaker 3: house rest the rest resting. But now and and and
Speaker 3: although resting, he's always opened up a space for me,
Speaker 3: you know, to talk and you know others that to
Speaker 3: give people information. I want to be clear about that.
Speaker 3: I appreciate the fact that he'd done that, but he
Speaker 3: did was coming from a position like, hey, it's what
Speaker 3: it's gonna be. But now, doctor heaven only Heavenly, who's
Speaker 3: on marriy to medicine, has launched her campaign, you know,
Speaker 3: to run for state Rep in Georgia, and he was
Speaker 3: out there holding signs saying he's ready to knock on doors.
Speaker 3: He's ready to get involved. And I love to see it.
Speaker 3: Whether people think she should run or not run, the
Speaker 3: point is Marcella's when people get behind somebody they like
Speaker 3: somebody that motivates them. For whatever reason, people get active.
Speaker 3: So it's not always the policy or the positioning. Sometimes
Speaker 3: it's just the person, just the person that's like, whatever
Speaker 3: it is that gets you involved. I'm with it. Whether
Speaker 3: you think she's qualified, not qualified, don't have enough experience,
Speaker 3: shouldn't be running. I'm looking at some people who are
Speaker 3: laughing with a thousand laugh emojis in the comments, and
Speaker 3: some people saying, hey, at least she's doing something you not.
Speaker 3: So I'm gonna always lead to I don't know her personally,
Speaker 3: I don't know her policy, I don't know none of that.
Speaker 3: But what I do know she put a hat in
Speaker 3: the game. What I do know is that people in
Speaker 3: the comments have not and will not. That's that's for anything,
Speaker 3: to get people talking about actually running opposed to run
Speaker 3: in their mouth, I'm with it, yea. So this is
Speaker 3: not an endorsement around know nothing about her, but good
Speaker 3: for you, and especially if we can involve the reality
Speaker 3: show folks, which I've said before, if we can mix
Speaker 3: those worlds and get that conversation going and show what
Speaker 3: that looks like in a real way, I'm with it.
Speaker 3: I'm with it. So shout out to her for that.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna watch that campaign. Never watched the show, but
Speaker 3: I'm gonna watch that campaign. I will watch the show.
Speaker 3: I hope they because I even told Carlos. I was like,
Speaker 3: you know, it'd be great if they could follow a
Speaker 3: candidate or show you know something, And here it is,
Speaker 3: you know, she's she's running. So I think it's an a
Speaker 3: sline deal and people shouldn't sleep on it because if
Speaker 3: we remember Hollywood Unlock, Jason Lee actually got elected last year.
Speaker 3: He actually got elected, so and he came from reality
Speaker 3: show World, So let's just continue to see what it
Speaker 3: looks like. I just want us talking about it.
Speaker 2: That's it.
Speaker 3: I just want us talking about something other than what
Speaker 3: they talking about.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I want to add.
Speaker 1: So I want to congratulate you again for you've been
Speaker 1: in law school.
Speaker 3: They're gonna get tired of you saying, ain't it over
Speaker 3: and up? Oh, he said, because I'm working my ass.
Speaker 3: By the way, we have to take we're taking a
Speaker 3: class now that is preparing you for a class. So
Speaker 3: it's the class before the class, and I sit here
Speaker 3: at this computer six seven hours a day. It is
Speaker 3: a real job. Now it gets easier in time, you know,
Speaker 3: second year, because you get faster, you know how to
Speaker 3: find information. But it's a job. Let's let's let's make
Speaker 3: no mistakes.
Speaker 4: Back.
Speaker 3: I always said, you know, I'm a wait to go
Speaker 3: till Jada goes to college because I need the time.
Speaker 3: I was right with that. I was absolutely right with that. Now,
Speaker 3: everybody else may have been able to do it the
Speaker 3: other way, but me, and you know, running my business
Speaker 3: and clients and all of that, this was the best
Speaker 3: way that I could do it. That I could just
Speaker 3: really just sit here and get lost. Because of my
Speaker 3: study habits, I get really lost into it, you know,
Speaker 3: like I'll stay on something for hours and hours and
Speaker 3: hours until I grasp it, unlike many others. So I'll
Speaker 3: stay into it hours an hour. So for me to
Speaker 3: have nothing but time, you know that I don't have
Speaker 3: to worry about stopping and picking up Jadie from school
Speaker 3: and drop her off here and doing it and getting dinner.
Speaker 3: This was the best decision up for me. But go ahead.
Speaker 3: I'm sorry. I don't want to interrupt you.
Speaker 2: No, I was just I was just get ready. That
Speaker 2: was perfect.
Speaker 1: I was just getting ready to say, since it's like
Speaker 1: a pre class I was going to say, do you
Speaker 1: want to spill a little bit what you've learned so far?
Speaker 3: Yeah? I always love you know. I love that you're
Speaker 3: naturally curious. And Marcelle's don't give damn y'all want to
Speaker 3: know about it, and he takes me all the time.
Speaker 3: He'd be like, I want to talk about it. I
Speaker 3: think the people should know. We'd be like I I E.
Speaker 3: I'm the peace. But it's been. It's very interesting because
Speaker 3: again working with the turning crunt the last ten years
Speaker 3: working in the legal field, being a mediator, I mediated
Speaker 3: over one thousand plus cases, civil cases because I am
Speaker 3: a civil circuit which is the lower court and appellet mediator.
Speaker 3: But even still and normally, just so you know, in
Speaker 3: your law school career, you don't start mediation or even
Speaker 3: interning or any of that until like your third year.
Speaker 3: So my experience is already advanced, you know, when one
Speaker 3: would consider advanced from somebody just you know, going to
Speaker 3: law school career at first time. I'm saying all that
Speaker 3: to say I still know the hell I'm talking about,
Speaker 3: and I love it. I love you always don't ever
Speaker 3: think you know more than the program.
Speaker 2: You know bigger in the program.
Speaker 3: Never beg in the program. Always have a curious mind
Speaker 3: to say, I think so, but let me see if
Speaker 3: I can learn a little bit more. So, the fourteen
Speaker 3: cases that we've had to complete in this two or
Speaker 3: three week assignment, we're still not done this two or
Speaker 3: three week assignment with torts, I've learned a lot. And
Speaker 3: if I just had to just one, it's been very
Speaker 3: exciting to go back and look at cases in the
Speaker 3: fifteen hundreds, you know, twelve hundred and thirteen hundreds, you
Speaker 3: know all of that. How they set foundation, you know,
Speaker 3: for assault cases and battery cases, like the initial foundation.
Speaker 3: So for example, a tourt case that sort that and
Speaker 3: so you have tort. So if I were to ask
Speaker 3: you what assault is, most people think of sault is criminal.
Speaker 3: You know, I hit you, I'm literally hitting you. What assault?
Speaker 3: It's not just criminal, It's also can be a tort,
Speaker 3: a civilizability meaning okay, I'm gonna sue you for assault
Speaker 3: which does not require you to physically touch me. And
Speaker 3: so one of the first cases that established that was
Speaker 3: a and I'll just kind of summarize it, but it
Speaker 3: was a tavern basically a club. They had a club
Speaker 3: way back then and a man went to it and
Speaker 3: was drink and wanted to get in the club. He
Speaker 3: wanted to I guess he missed last call. On summarizing,
Speaker 3: the lady sticks her head out the window. She's like, hey,
Speaker 3: we're closed up. It's not a you know, the club
Speaker 3: is closed. Bottom line, he had a hatchet because back
Speaker 3: then they walked around with hatchets. I guess. So he
Speaker 3: had a hatchet and swung it at her. Never made contact,
Speaker 3: didn't make contact with the door, didn't make contact with
Speaker 3: her at all, but that was considered assault. Took them
Speaker 3: a court and won, you know, because of her fear
Speaker 3: of being hit. So and so insummation the law, and
Speaker 3: this is the moral to the story. The law has
Speaker 3: always been in place. It has not always been fair
Speaker 3: to us, obviously, you know it's black Americans. It has
Speaker 3: not always been the right decisions have not always been made.
Speaker 3: But what I love about it is just the reminder
Speaker 3: that people have always in this country debated what is
Speaker 3: right and what is wrong. You know, what is right
Speaker 3: and what is wrong, and so establishing the rules and
Speaker 3: the framework, the initial framework of the law in the policies,
Speaker 3: and how that changes over time. That is what is
Speaker 3: exciting to me, So not necessarily maybe learn something new.
Speaker 3: I've learned a lot new, but I will say my
Speaker 3: aha moments are What's been enlightening me is the reminder
Speaker 3: that it is always a living document. You know, it
Speaker 3: is not setting stone. It's always changing, and how do
Speaker 3: we participate in that change. So when people say, well,
Speaker 3: there's no point, nothing's going to change, why would we change?
Speaker 3: Have they said that in the thirteen hundred, twelve hundred
Speaker 3: and fourteen, fifteen hundred and sixteen, nineteenth century twenty they said,
Speaker 3: you know, nothing would have changed. So our part is
Speaker 3: always playing a role in that change that we may
Speaker 3: not ever see. Like mister Fisher that sued for being
Speaker 3: called a negro happing his plate snatched from him when
Speaker 3: they said negroes can't eat here. He sued for battery
Speaker 3: even though the person did not physically touch him, by
Speaker 3: the fact that they touched the plate that was attached
Speaker 3: to his person. That was one of the original cases
Speaker 3: on defining battery. So even then in nineteen sixty seven, wait, man,
Speaker 3: what you call me, Let's go to court. And this
Speaker 3: was right after the nineteen sixty five, you know, Civil
Speaker 3: Rights Act, So even then people had the courage to
Speaker 3: crash out for justice, you know back then when there
Speaker 3: was a real consequence. You know, we got consequences now,
Speaker 3: but it was real consequences.
Speaker 1: Then I'm gonna ask you real back up just a
Speaker 1: little bit. What is I think I know it is
Speaker 1: by one for sure. What is a pellate means?
Speaker 3: So that's when somebody is going to the appellate is
Speaker 3: the supreme court. So when I appeal, you know, you
Speaker 3: hear somebody say I appeal. Sometimes they appeal to the
Speaker 3: district court to another court. Let's just say, so appellate
Speaker 3: could be the person that is appealing. But where you're
Speaker 3: appealing is the question. It could be Okay, I went
Speaker 3: to the district court. Now we're going to the Supreme
Speaker 3: Court of Georgia. And then I don't like that answer.
Speaker 3: So now you know that type of stuff. So there's
Speaker 3: the Supreme Court on the state level, then the Supreme
Speaker 3: Court on the federal level, and they appeal the appealee
Speaker 3: or they appell at or have you want to pronounce it.
Speaker 3: That's the person, you know making the plane. Okay, just
Speaker 3: like you have the defendant and the plaintiff, they can
Speaker 3: turn into the appellate and you know the same thing,
Speaker 3: and the appellate and the respondent, I'm sorry, right, and
Speaker 3: to the appeal. So I'm saying Marcella's didn't like at
Speaker 3: the trial court, the lower court, the circuit court, okay loss, Now, yeah,
Speaker 3: I don't like that. I'm gonna take it to the
Speaker 3: epist So I'm gonna be the the Uh. I am
Speaker 3: appealing to the Supreme Court to say, hey, I'm appealing
Speaker 3: this meaning I am appealing asking for you to make
Speaker 3: a different decision. And Marcella's is the respond and he
Speaker 3: needs to respond to my appeal. And literally think about
Speaker 3: the word appeal. I'm appealing something to you. Oh it appeals,
Speaker 3: you know, I'm appealing, Like really think about like what
Speaker 3: that means, the word itself, what means. So when you
Speaker 3: have a question, this is why we want we want
Speaker 3: to have you know, we want to look things up
Speaker 3: and we want to say, let's look at the fundamental
Speaker 3: word and let's just do it here in real time.
Speaker 3: Let's look up the fundamental word on what is the
Speaker 3: definition of appeal? So definite spell says make serious or
Speaker 3: urgent request. So that word just saying I want to
Speaker 3: make an urgent request. Now you take that and you
Speaker 3: apply that to an appeal, and that's saying apply to
Speaker 3: a higher court for a reverse of a decision. So
Speaker 3: one thing about the law. Get to the root of
Speaker 3: the word. What is the worst so you can actually
Speaker 3: have an understanding of it, not just saying, Okay, I'm
Speaker 3: going to appeal. I'm appealing in court. What does appeal mean?
Speaker 3: Appeal can just mean I'm making a request. I'm gonna
Speaker 3: make an appeal that I want Piece of the Night
Speaker 3: instead of Hamburgers. So I'm gonna appeal to Jada and
Speaker 3: beg her to go get Hamburgers, which she never does,
Speaker 3: even though I bought the car. She ain't never had
Speaker 3: to pay, no car payment, no insurance, no nothing. But
Speaker 3: I have to appeal make a request where old school,
Speaker 3: my mom just told me what to do. There was
Speaker 3: no opace, no appeal. I ain't appeal nothing to you.
Speaker 3: And that's that, Yeah, which is interesting because this generation
Speaker 3: they're used to us making appeals. And that's where the
Speaker 3: confusion comes in. You know, he used to like me
Speaker 3: asking you and you actually, you know, making a decision
Speaker 3: if you want to listen to me or not. Right,
Speaker 3: because we've allowed this. You're now I'm getting on the
Speaker 3: tangent another tangent. But I just literally just had I've
Speaker 3: been making an appeal to Jada to do something all
Speaker 3: day and just a minute go out to say and say, okay,
Speaker 3: now the appeal process is over. But now I'm too
Speaker 3: the process is over. No, no more. But it's because
Speaker 3: we've empowered this generation, you know, to have a say,
Speaker 3: we've been powered this generation to you know, have feedback.
Speaker 3: We've empowered this generation to you know, be a respondent
Speaker 3: of things. But how I grew up, there was no
Speaker 3: appeal at all. It was this and that's that. Yeah,
Speaker 3: But me trying to have balance and not be a
Speaker 3: judge and allow you, you know, to do it on
Speaker 3: your own and make your own decisions. The appeal wasn't
Speaker 3: working in this particular request. So now I just got
Speaker 3: to go straight up with the with you know, with
Speaker 3: the with the correctional officer. Now at this point, right, so,
Speaker 3: anytime you have a question on a word, look up
Speaker 3: the word of what it means in the law, but
Speaker 3: also get to the root of the word. And that's
Speaker 3: and that's a great question, right, I said, because that's
Speaker 3: what takes me so long studying because my brain thinks
Speaker 3: like that, where somebody else just say, oh, it's an
Speaker 3: appeal and kind of move on. I'm gonna spend time wrestling,
Speaker 3: you know, unpacking it all the way down so that
Speaker 3: you can have a complete concept of it. Because the
Speaker 3: way I just explained it, with the hypotheticals and with
Speaker 3: all that, you'll remember it more so than just me
Speaker 3: saying an appeal is this makes sense?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 3: So my training style that y'all need to make sure
Speaker 3: y'all come to testifigure dot com next classes on July nineteenth,
Speaker 3: two pm. My training style is to give you the
Speaker 3: concepts until until you can wrap your head all the
Speaker 3: way around it. And it's on things like that, the hypotheticals,
Speaker 3: you know, the other situations, the D D D, and
Speaker 3: so you can spend hours, you know, like that one
Speaker 3: case example, I'm not gonna stop at okay, it was
Speaker 3: assault because he didn't hit you. Now I'm gonna look
Speaker 3: at okay, what about if he hit the door? What
Speaker 3: happens then who's liable? What about if she hit him back?
Speaker 3: What about if he swung in her and then she
Speaker 3: hit it, she actually hit him and make contact battery?
Speaker 3: Now what happens, you know, So I try to go
Speaker 3: through all those hypothetical scenarios, not because I just want
Speaker 3: to be the smartest one in the class, but that's
Speaker 3: how I grasp information, and I want to actually understand. See,
Speaker 3: that is the key, Marcella's that is the key, understanding
Speaker 3: the rules and the loopholes and the rules.
Speaker 2: Yes, the loopholes, Yep.
Speaker 3: The loopholes and the rules. That's why it's important. Only
Speaker 3: five percent of attorneys in America are black. You're how
Speaker 3: important that is because somebody and we don't know if
Speaker 3: all they five percent is on our side. So you
Speaker 3: need somebody who understand the loopholes because you think they
Speaker 3: gonna tell you the loopholes. Absolutely not and it's and
Speaker 3: guess what's not their job to tell you the loopholes.
Speaker 3: When you go in court you present your argument. If
Speaker 3: you don't know the loopholes, you just don't know the loopholes,
Speaker 3: the judging gonna say, hey, a counselor you forgot you know,
Speaker 3: to do X, Y Z. And the question gonna be
Speaker 3: is that okay? Is that it anything else? No, don't
Speaker 3: do anything else from the defense, No, sir, I rest well,
Speaker 3: you rested without especially resting. That's what they're doing nowadays.
Speaker 3: You're doing all that restling and you haven't put up
Speaker 3: enough argument because you don't know the loopholes. You don't
Speaker 3: know the loopholes. So now the person doesn't have adequate representation.
Speaker 3: And that's what an appeal. When you appeal, somebody didn't
Speaker 3: put up something, somebody left off something, somebody I didn't
Speaker 3: agree with the judge said. But a lot of that,
Speaker 3: if you really get into it, somebody didn't present something.
Speaker 3: A lot of it is like the attorney didn't put
Speaker 3: this on the table, put that on the table, or
Speaker 3: the judge let this slide and not slide, and like,
Speaker 3: for example, we just want to use a real life
Speaker 3: example the DDDY case or he oh, he got all
Speaker 3: type the grounds to appeal. So even though his family
Speaker 3: and him seem to be favorable, you know it's a
Speaker 3: favorable result, he's still a convicted feeling and he still
Speaker 3: can put up an appeal based upon certain testimony that
Speaker 3: should not have been admitted, that was admitted, or you know,
Speaker 3: different things like that are the ways things ruled and
Speaker 3: all that type stuff. So your attorneys have to know
Speaker 3: the loopholes and then you'll also see that. If you
Speaker 3: watch cases, you'll see where the attorneys say, can we
Speaker 3: put it on the record that I did object to that?
Speaker 3: They gotta do that because that's going to be their
Speaker 3: grounds for appeal. I tried to and the judge said,
Speaker 3: don't worry about it, Okay, it need to be on
Speaker 3: the record. A lot of it happened with the O. J. Tratts.
Speaker 3: Why I tell you watch the don't watch the documentaries.
Speaker 3: Watch that is master class you know in what should
Speaker 3: be admitted, what should not be admitted, how the prosecution
Speaker 3: may errors, how the defense may errors, how they the theatrics.
Speaker 3: It's just a master class. People have to take away
Speaker 3: whatever you think he did not do, and watch it.
Speaker 3: What you know from a learning standpoint, you learn a
Speaker 3: lot of I mean I literally watch it. I don't
Speaker 3: want to. I literally watch it every day, but I
Speaker 3: don't want to say literally watch it every day because
Speaker 3: of some days I miss it. But you can you
Speaker 3: can for sure know that every month I'm watching that
Speaker 3: case four five times a month, and every time I
Speaker 3: learned something. Though, and I've been watching that. That case
Speaker 3: came out in nineteen ninety five, the death was in
Speaker 3: ninety four. I've been watching it since high school, so
Speaker 3: that long it's thirty years that I'm watching and still
Speaker 3: I can watch something the other day and the argument
Speaker 3: with Flee Bailey and a witness that it appeared that
Speaker 3: he lied, well he actually he the prosecutor said he lied,
Speaker 3: but he kind of put a two on a ten.
Speaker 3: And so I went back and watched that like three
Speaker 3: or four times, you know, because I wanted to see
Speaker 3: the argument and how, you know, why to judge penalized him,
Speaker 3: and how they're worried. And I looked that up and
Speaker 3: all that, you know. So I'm just a nerve when
Speaker 3: it comes to stuff like that. So that's a lot
Speaker 3: of it. That was the why spend so much time
Speaker 3: studying is because a lot of it is called synthesizing,
Speaker 3: comparing it with other things and how it makes sense,
Speaker 3: and you know, what about if we do it this way,
Speaker 3: what about it we do it that way? You know
Speaker 3: all of that.
Speaker 4: So yeah, yeah, because it's funny that you said, because
Speaker 4: I remember when I when I had one of my kids.
Speaker 2: I remember I was happy because I'm like, oh yeah,
Speaker 2: I won.
Speaker 1: And when you say the law was it was not
Speaker 1: designed for us, it's I that was that was my experience.
Speaker 1: I was like, the problem that I had was I
Speaker 1: was like, wait a minute, you say, let me get
Speaker 1: this amount of money, but this this, this is not
Speaker 1: adding up, and I was like, this ain't fair.
Speaker 2: That's when I learned he told me the law was
Speaker 2: designed to be fair.
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, it's not. It's designed to make whole and
Speaker 3: hole or balance does not mean completely. So if you
Speaker 3: say insurance, my insurance claim burned down my you know,
Speaker 3: my my house burned to the ground. The house was
Speaker 3: worth one hundred and fifty thousand. Okay, we're gonna give
Speaker 3: you ninety five thousand. Oh well, wait a minute, I
Speaker 3: had insurance. It's not it's desire. The definition of like
Speaker 3: making you whole or making it fair or balancing the scales.
Speaker 3: Your definition of fair is subjective. Also, even if we
Speaker 3: say it's not fair to us, meaning as black people,
Speaker 3: I'm saying that as a colloquialism, but in the reality
Speaker 3: of it is your attorney is their job to balance
Speaker 3: it and make it fair. That's why they need to
Speaker 3: know that they're talking about. You need to know what
Speaker 3: to argue. So what I mean by that is the
Speaker 3: law is there, but if you don't know how to
Speaker 3: argue it. If you don't know what loopo's, if you
Speaker 3: don't know you know what I mean, if you don't
Speaker 3: know how to manipulate it in your favor. Right, that's
Speaker 3: why it's a lot of times not fear of us,
Speaker 3: because we can't afford at adequate representation. So for those
Speaker 3: of you there thinking you're gonna get a rico and
Speaker 3: you're gonna get off like like puff because they don't
Speaker 3: have the evidence, you don't have to aig quality. So
Speaker 3: let's be clear about that's true. A team of lawyers,
Speaker 3: of highly skilled lawyers, highly paid lawyers, twenty thirty million
Speaker 3: that could fight that. You and your public defender, it's
Speaker 3: over with. You better take the plea straight up. So
Speaker 3: when we say the law ain't fair, does if we
Speaker 3: unpack that, it's not the law that's the problem. It's
Speaker 3: the access to justice, what it costs for justice, what
Speaker 3: it means to get somebody you know good to defend you.
Speaker 3: And that's just what it is. That's just what it is.
Speaker 3: This is a capitalist society. You get what you pay for,
Speaker 3: including the law.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 3: Oh God, ain't saying well that's what it.
Speaker 2: Is, right?
Speaker 1: See that was me I was being a little nerve
Speaker 1: going online or look, bringing a numbers back to my attorney.
Speaker 2: No, it says it's worth this much like it was
Speaker 2: a rule awake. And he was like, yeah, you can.
Speaker 3: Bring it online all you want to. You still can't
Speaker 3: present that argument confused because I know, you know in
Speaker 3: this YouTube where everybody expert of everything. But what I
Speaker 3: love about the law is you don't get the stand up.
Speaker 3: If that's your attorney, he's speaking for you, he's founding
Speaker 3: emotions for you. He all the powers in his hand.
Speaker 3: You can represent your safe, yourself pro safe. We'll see
Speaker 3: how it all work out. You might have googled, you
Speaker 3: might have googled two or three laws, but if they
Speaker 3: hit your ass or something you don't know about it,
Speaker 3: you're not gonna know how to defend it. Yeah, that's
Speaker 3: why I have the retainer ready. Y'all better having return
Speaker 3: in no games and I'm and you can say, oh, man,
Speaker 3: she just got out of law school. I don't know.
Speaker 3: I think some people rather have me fresh out of
Speaker 3: law school than a lot of other attorneys. Because this
Speaker 3: I'm bringing a whole lot to the table, so that
Speaker 3: this is just the paperwork on the end and I
Speaker 3: don't want to be no YouTube lawyer. So again, case
Speaker 3: y'all listen, go ahead and start saving them now, because
Speaker 3: the cases is coming. He's I'm coming.
Speaker 2: At a time.
Speaker 3: Trump get done with this country. They're gonna you wanna
Speaker 3: respect the work, This paperwork don't matter. Degrees don't matter,
Speaker 3: don't matter, this that, titles don't matter, the government don't matter,
Speaker 3: FEMA don't matter, you know, Department of Human Services don't matter.
Speaker 3: Playing parenthood don't matter. All stuff y'all say, don't man,
Speaker 3: Medicaid don't matter. We're gonna see, uh huh, We're gonna see.
Speaker 3: And I ain't wishing down for all or nothing. I'm
Speaker 3: just telling you what it is.
Speaker 2: Go ahead, I'm blessed.
Speaker 1: His last question, So, in order for you to become
Speaker 1: a pellet mediator, what did you have to do to
Speaker 1: do that?
Speaker 3: Well, first you become a civil a circuit, then a
Speaker 3: pellate because that's the order of court civil circuit repellant
Speaker 3: in Florida. You gotta take a certification class and then
Speaker 3: after the certain you can you can do civil. They'll
Speaker 3: let you do civils. Circuit is hard to get your
Speaker 3: certification in that because an attorney got to be willing
Speaker 3: to let you shadow them, and they block a lot
Speaker 3: of people out of that. I dig in mind because
Speaker 3: I have some attorney friends. Then after you get your circuit,
Speaker 3: you can apply for your pellets. So you have to
Speaker 3: get over you have to do the circuit before you
Speaker 3: can be a pellet. And that's in Florida. Some states
Speaker 3: don't require a certification. They let anybody mediate. But again,
Speaker 3: you can volunteer to do it all day long. And
Speaker 3: attorneys and I'm just being honest that they don't that
Speaker 3: they only pay other attorneys to do that. Oh did
Speaker 3: they kind of want somebody ask you know what they're
Speaker 3: talking about before they hand their case over to you.
Speaker 3: A pay you know, pay two fifty an hour. You
Speaker 3: know they kind of want you.
Speaker 2: To know it to get into law school or yeah,
Speaker 2: you want to.
Speaker 3: Truly, And they and they keep it on lock between
Speaker 3: each other, you know, make money too. Why would I
Speaker 3: give it to somebody outside the profession that didn't do
Speaker 3: the work. This all come back to doing the work.
Speaker 3: I know, y'all. I know y'all look for a loophole
Speaker 3: outside of it.
Speaker 2: But the attorneys doing it, the atturnys do look for loopholes.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Like, why would I if I graduated medical school
Speaker 3: with everybody in medical school, we bust our ass to
Speaker 3: get our medical Why would I go give the work
Speaker 3: to somebody who just reading how to be a holistic
Speaker 3: doctor online? And they might be good at what they do.
Speaker 3: But I'm gonna give it to my colleagues, to my
Speaker 3: trusted colleagues that I know meant the same standard that
Speaker 3: I met, put in the same work, did with that.
Speaker 3: You know, I'm my colleagues all, but why I'm a
Speaker 3: good holistic doctor. Well, go network with other holistic doctors
Speaker 3: and y'all pass around, you know, clients to each other.
Speaker 3: But when I get a client that got ten thousand dollars,
Speaker 3: I'm gonna go give it to one of my colleagues
Speaker 3: with the whole that if they got one and they
Speaker 3: ain't even me to mediate, you know, we're gonna swap.
Speaker 2: You know, gotta do the work, Gotta do the work.
Speaker 2: Can't get around it.
Speaker 3: You can't get it for Young Kitty's honorary degrees and
Speaker 3: humanitarian and all you want to. But when it comes
Speaker 3: to this esquire, yeah, no, they ain't got they ain't
Speaker 3: got nothing set up yet to just give you even
Speaker 3: even Kim Kardashian that graduated her and make believe law school. Well,
Speaker 3: let's easy past the bar. Now you're going to go
Speaker 3: past the bar. Lose hose with that. And the only
Speaker 3: reason why again she got money. She was able to
Speaker 3: get Jessica and all of them to you know, sponsor
Speaker 3: her the program. So that's why she was able to
Speaker 3: get through that. You can't do it. And the time
Speaker 3: you gotta be willing to sit down and say, they
Speaker 3: say they coached you through this amount of hour, you know,
Speaker 3: did whatever whatever, and now you know you met the qualifications.
Speaker 3: But still she has not graduated from the credit law school.
Speaker 3: She is not past the bar. So you are not
Speaker 3: an attorney. And shave room can try to spend it
Speaker 3: however they want to, but you're not walking in nobody's courtroom.
Speaker 3: That's it.
Speaker 1: That's that's right. It ords the wise mass. Y'all have
Speaker 1: y'all money. When y'all get these terms that they are
Speaker 1: not playing, you don't.
Speaker 3: Have the body when y'all come to me, because I
Speaker 3: ain't playing either. I think I'm not playing your time.
Speaker 3: Did I'm making y'all stand no business? Now y'all wanna
Speaker 3: take you don't stand on being able to get the
Speaker 3: investing Now quick news story. Speaking of the depthtoe devastating
Speaker 3: in Texas flash flood, it's ridiculous. As of now it's
Speaker 3: over one hundred the steady, steady rising. This is really,
Speaker 3: really sad. I've been watching this online. This happened in
Speaker 3: Kirk County with the logo at Camp Mystic, a river
Speaker 3: located by Hunt, Texas, and basically it just flooded out
Speaker 3: like it within a matter of minute. You know, it
Speaker 3: wasn't like I think people thinking it took time, you know,
Speaker 3: getting rained and they had time to evacuating all of that. No,
Speaker 3: it's almost like kind of what happened when Hurricane Tree,
Speaker 3: Like the levees broke. They didn't have levees, but you
Speaker 3: get my point, and it just kind of flooded out.
Speaker 3: And so a lot of kids are missing, families missing.
Speaker 3: It's a big mess. You know, thought some prayers to them. Texas,
Speaker 3: you know, they doing big explaining about why this could
Speaker 3: have happened, that could have happened, you know, the sounders.
Speaker 3: So just you know, unfortunate. But the main thing also
Speaker 3: that I want people know about this is at the
Speaker 3: same time that Trump is saying this is devastating, also saying,
Speaker 3: you know, it take FEMA too long to get places.
Speaker 3: We need to just get rid of FEMA and let
Speaker 3: the states do it, so we'll see how it all
Speaker 3: work out. I think we need both. We still need
Speaker 3: federal emergency management assistance in addition to the states. The
Speaker 3: states do respond first though, by the way, you know,
Speaker 3: because it's their state, so we understand that. But to
Speaker 3: get rid of FEMA, like for what you know, So
Speaker 3: like again, we'll see, we'll.
Speaker 2: See how all.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we'll go see how it all work out again.
Speaker 3: Shout out again. The city of Philadelphia. They are grappling
Speaker 3: with mounds of trash. And when I say mounds, it
Speaker 3: mean mounds. Like they told y'all get somebody else to
Speaker 3: do it. I'm just loving this story. I'm gonna keep,
Speaker 3: you know, following on that. I believe they want a
Speaker 3: eight They said no city offers, they said, claiming the
Speaker 3: city offered that raised wages by more than thirteen percent.
Speaker 3: So they've already offered them thirteen percent, and I guess
Speaker 3: they're saying that, ain't it go back to the drawing board.
Speaker 3: That's all right, Yeah, so hey one people, y'all gonna
Speaker 3: respect is the is the sanitation workers for sure?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Also just quickly essence festival. People have been complaining about that.
Speaker 3: I want to hear your feedback on that. Come on
Speaker 3: my Instagram. I usually I don't want to say I
Speaker 3: usually go, but I fen enough. I went last year,
Speaker 3: didn't go this year. I was gonna go, but I
Speaker 3: got caught up. I was like, no, let me study.
Speaker 3: I got a new computer, so I was like, no,
Speaker 3: I'm just spend time, you know, getting my stuff together
Speaker 3: for school. But meaning a lot of feedback on that
Speaker 3: is the lead? Is it the leadership or they putting
Speaker 3: too much of the African disporiented? Is it because of target?
Speaker 3: Is because of the economy? Is it because you know
Speaker 3: the tickets were too high? Bottom line is I would
Speaker 3: say overall, it still comes back to the economy. So
Speaker 3: everybody that was saying we're gonna be fine, We're gonna
Speaker 3: be fine, y'all, everything all good. This is a good
Speaker 3: example to show everything may not be a good day.
Speaker 3: People are trying to save their money. They're not trying
Speaker 3: to spend on extra things that they don't need. And
Speaker 3: that's even even like I said with me, I was like, hey,
Speaker 3: do I want to go spend the extra money this weekend,
Speaker 3: or do I want to study? Even though study was
Speaker 3: my primary focus, money still was in the equation, Like
Speaker 3: I still was like, do I want to spend that
Speaker 3: money to go do that or do I just want
Speaker 3: to see that I turned, I got a rental car,
Speaker 3: so let me go take this rental car back and
Speaker 3: let me just focus on my You don't focus on
Speaker 3: my business. So it is still in the equation. So
Speaker 3: when you're listening to wealthy people, rich people online with
Speaker 3: these podcasts and sit them talk about we're gonna be fine,
Speaker 3: We're gonna be fine, Well, we're gonna see the average
Speaker 3: person sixty percent of America is can't even get a
Speaker 3: set of brand new tires, twelve one dollars tiers. They
Speaker 3: had a four hundred dollars emergency between that and almost
Speaker 3: that's the reality, yep. So let's see how it all
Speaker 3: work out ourselves. And that ain't wishing nobody bad. It's
Speaker 3: just telling you what it is. Make sure you keep
Speaker 3: it locked right here because I do. The good news
Speaker 3: is I do want to help you whatever I can
Speaker 3: to teach you how to access resource on the local
Speaker 3: and state level. A lot of the talking his mindself.
Speaker 3: They're gonna keep talking about federal, federal, federal. I'm gonna
Speaker 3: talk about it a little bit, but I'm gonna keep
Speaker 3: I want you to know where to find your resources,
Speaker 3: how to get those resources, and what it actually looked like,
Speaker 3: how to affect John's transportation, school crime, all of that
Speaker 3: right there in your local town. So that's what we're
Speaker 3: gonna keep pushing over here. Is not as sensational, it's
Speaker 3: not as intriguing, it doesn't get all the clicks, I
Speaker 3: get it, but it's what you most need in a
Speaker 3: time such as this. So I'm gonna stay obedient to
Speaker 3: what the God has called me to do, and we're
Speaker 3: just gonna keep pushing it, just like that. Push the line.
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