1 00:00:00,360 --> 00:00:03,040 Speaker 1: Well, this jepisode of a New World when Thomas Jefferson 2 00:00:03,080 --> 00:00:07,119 Speaker 1: is writing the Declaration and laying out these words for liberation, 3 00:00:07,280 --> 00:00:10,479 Speaker 1: that all men are created e bole and born within 4 00:00:10,520 --> 00:00:13,039 Speaker 1: the alien bol rights. And while he's writing that he 5 00:00:13,080 --> 00:00:15,600 Speaker 1: owns one hundred and thirty human beings who are an 6 00:00:15,640 --> 00:00:19,640 Speaker 1: absolute bondage. Black Americans have used those founding words, who 7 00:00:19,680 --> 00:00:22,840 Speaker 1: actually bring us closer to the democracy that the founders 8 00:00:22,840 --> 00:00:25,640 Speaker 1: and envision. Put your wine glasses down, put your forks down, 9 00:00:25,640 --> 00:00:28,240 Speaker 1: and take a moment to grieve with us. You don't 10 00:00:28,320 --> 00:00:31,680 Speaker 1: have to experience this every single day. The helicopter. This 11 00:00:31,720 --> 00:00:34,520 Speaker 1: is a helicopter that roams our streets in our communities 12 00:00:34,640 --> 00:00:39,800 Speaker 1: every single day. Imagine the psychological impact that has on 13 00:00:40,000 --> 00:00:43,479 Speaker 1: fueling hunted because that's what we feel. We feel hunted 14 00:00:43,520 --> 00:00:46,040 Speaker 1: because that's what's happening. The first thing I think is 15 00:00:46,080 --> 00:00:49,240 Speaker 1: that we actually do have an ideological frame. Myself and 16 00:00:49,320 --> 00:00:55,440 Speaker 1: Alicia in particular, trained organizers. We are trained Marxists. We 17 00:00:55,600 --> 00:01:01,080 Speaker 1: are super versed on sort of eighty all magical theory. 18 00:01:03,200 --> 00:01:06,720 Speaker 1: We are trained Marxists. Hi, this is new due to 19 00:01:06,760 --> 00:01:09,720 Speaker 1: the virus. I'm recording from home, so you may notice 20 00:01:09,720 --> 00:01:15,320 Speaker 1: a difference in audio quality. We're going to talk with 21 00:01:15,400 --> 00:01:18,679 Speaker 1: somebody who really is a man of courage and a 22 00:01:18,720 --> 00:01:22,400 Speaker 1: man of faith. The whole issue of Black Lives Matter, 23 00:01:23,000 --> 00:01:25,840 Speaker 1: what's it really all about, what does it really stand for? 24 00:01:26,600 --> 00:01:30,319 Speaker 1: And the degree to which it was founded by Marxists 25 00:01:30,440 --> 00:01:34,680 Speaker 1: and has a much more mixed reputation in the black 26 00:01:34,720 --> 00:01:38,319 Speaker 1: community than the elite news media might tell you. And 27 00:01:38,440 --> 00:01:40,840 Speaker 1: that's why I think this will be a fascinating conversation. 28 00:01:40,880 --> 00:01:45,160 Speaker 1: And I'm delighted to welcome my guest, Bishop Aubrey Shines, 29 00:01:45,520 --> 00:01:48,520 Speaker 1: who is here to share his views on Black Lives 30 00:01:48,520 --> 00:01:52,000 Speaker 1: Matter movement as a man of faith. Bishop Shines is 31 00:01:52,040 --> 00:01:56,400 Speaker 1: the co founder of the organization Conservative Clergy of Color 32 00:01:56,800 --> 00:02:00,960 Speaker 1: and recently released the book Eight Questions about Race, a 33 00:02:01,080 --> 00:02:12,919 Speaker 1: Black pastor response to Black Lives Matter. As long as say, 34 00:02:12,960 --> 00:02:15,480 Speaker 1: first of all, how delighted I am that you could 35 00:02:15,480 --> 00:02:19,519 Speaker 1: find the time and we're willing to be with us today, 36 00:02:19,880 --> 00:02:23,280 Speaker 1: missus thinker great being with you have always enjoyed your 37 00:02:23,280 --> 00:02:26,480 Speaker 1: body of work as well out there, and our prayers 38 00:02:26,560 --> 00:02:29,240 Speaker 1: and hope for you and your family is that you 39 00:02:29,280 --> 00:02:33,079 Speaker 1: continue to be healthy and be strengthened as you champion 40 00:02:33,520 --> 00:02:36,120 Speaker 1: this great ideal call America. So again, thank you for 41 00:02:36,200 --> 00:02:40,040 Speaker 1: your body of work. Well, I'm deeply concerned about the 42 00:02:40,040 --> 00:02:43,600 Speaker 1: faith of the whole country, and I think that this 43 00:02:43,720 --> 00:02:47,160 Speaker 1: question of what's happening in the streets, what's happening the 44 00:02:47,160 --> 00:02:51,560 Speaker 1: way the news media covers it, is really extraordinarily important 45 00:02:51,960 --> 00:02:53,880 Speaker 1: for the future of the United States. So let me 46 00:02:53,919 --> 00:02:56,959 Speaker 1: start and ask you, as a practical matter, what inspired 47 00:02:57,000 --> 00:03:02,040 Speaker 1: you to start the Conservative Clergy Color. Well, so my 48 00:03:02,120 --> 00:03:05,639 Speaker 1: body of work proceeds at and the gentleman that when 49 00:03:05,680 --> 00:03:09,560 Speaker 1: I found at this organization, they also were doing tremendous 50 00:03:09,639 --> 00:03:13,400 Speaker 1: work in their communities social media center. In all fairness 51 00:03:13,440 --> 00:03:18,320 Speaker 1: to your audience, mister speaker, I traveled for candidate Trump, 52 00:03:18,639 --> 00:03:24,440 Speaker 1: spoke in coliseums across this nation. In doing so, what 53 00:03:24,560 --> 00:03:27,480 Speaker 1: I found very interesting, outside of the fact that when 54 00:03:27,600 --> 00:03:31,000 Speaker 1: Hillary Clinton wrote her book of what happened, I was 55 00:03:31,040 --> 00:03:34,000 Speaker 1: the only clergy in America that she put in her 56 00:03:34,000 --> 00:03:36,400 Speaker 1: book as one of the reasons she did not get elected, 57 00:03:36,440 --> 00:03:39,680 Speaker 1: because of a video that I produced, which wasn't for 58 00:03:40,400 --> 00:03:43,200 Speaker 1: mass consumption at that time. It was really to share 59 00:03:43,200 --> 00:03:46,400 Speaker 1: with other colleagues, other pastors, bishops, etc. To say, how 60 00:03:46,480 --> 00:03:51,480 Speaker 1: dare you vote for a president under the Moniker of 61 00:03:51,640 --> 00:03:56,160 Speaker 1: the Democratic Party. Here's their history. And so we had 62 00:03:56,200 --> 00:03:59,160 Speaker 1: been doing this work for quite a while individually, and 63 00:03:59,280 --> 00:04:01,360 Speaker 1: I got together with a group of the guys and said, 64 00:04:01,640 --> 00:04:05,119 Speaker 1: let's pull this together. You know, we're stronger together. Our 65 00:04:05,160 --> 00:04:08,640 Speaker 1: success has been incredible, not just because of the interviews 66 00:04:08,640 --> 00:04:11,480 Speaker 1: and the videos and the op eds at the Times 67 00:04:11,520 --> 00:04:14,600 Speaker 1: and real Clear Politics and others have picked up on 68 00:04:14,680 --> 00:04:18,359 Speaker 1: my behalf, but what we found was that there was 69 00:04:18,440 --> 00:04:22,840 Speaker 1: such a void of news that was out there regarding 70 00:04:23,360 --> 00:04:27,640 Speaker 1: these particular issues. And we're saddened by it because we're 71 00:04:27,680 --> 00:04:31,440 Speaker 1: just looking for fear shot and obviously the CNNs and etc. 72 00:04:32,440 --> 00:04:35,279 Speaker 1: They have never picked us up. Again, There's been a 73 00:04:35,320 --> 00:04:38,800 Speaker 1: lot of outlets, including Fox and others who have picked 74 00:04:38,800 --> 00:04:41,440 Speaker 1: me up, but they have never picked us up through 75 00:04:41,440 --> 00:04:44,880 Speaker 1: the year. So we began to work together and we're 76 00:04:44,920 --> 00:04:48,960 Speaker 1: having tremendous success because black and brown communities have not 77 00:04:49,120 --> 00:04:52,719 Speaker 1: been aware of this information as it relates to what's 78 00:04:52,720 --> 00:04:56,400 Speaker 1: going on not just here but abroad. How does China 79 00:04:56,680 --> 00:05:01,200 Speaker 1: affect them? How do fringe groups like Nike impale black 80 00:05:01,200 --> 00:05:04,799 Speaker 1: and brown communities? The hypocrisy of what they're doing. We're 81 00:05:05,000 --> 00:05:08,320 Speaker 1: shining a light on that and as a result, our 82 00:05:08,360 --> 00:05:12,760 Speaker 1: response has been incredible, So thank you for allowing us 83 00:05:12,760 --> 00:05:16,360 Speaker 1: to express such as well. One of the core questions 84 00:05:16,440 --> 00:05:20,240 Speaker 1: that we're seeing in terms of justice Amy Coney Barrett 85 00:05:20,600 --> 00:05:24,400 Speaker 1: in other cases is whether or not your belief in 86 00:05:24,440 --> 00:05:27,279 Speaker 1: God should have any effect on your political use as 87 00:05:27,279 --> 00:05:30,400 Speaker 1: a man of faith. How does your belief in God 88 00:05:31,000 --> 00:05:33,280 Speaker 1: shape the way you see the culture and the way 89 00:05:33,320 --> 00:05:38,359 Speaker 1: you see politics. Well, we see it through a historical lens. 90 00:05:38,760 --> 00:05:42,000 Speaker 1: It wasn't just the United States. If those who have 91 00:05:42,160 --> 00:05:48,000 Speaker 1: a judaeo Christen Ethels understood even Old Testament politics. For 92 00:05:48,160 --> 00:05:51,000 Speaker 1: lack of it a word, we'll actually read where the 93 00:05:51,160 --> 00:05:55,000 Speaker 1: father in law to Moses, the great Lawgiver, is the 94 00:05:55,040 --> 00:05:58,440 Speaker 1: one who really gave us our blueprint, our foundation as 95 00:05:58,480 --> 00:06:02,600 Speaker 1: it relates to our politics. He instructed Moses, hey, here 96 00:06:02,640 --> 00:06:04,400 Speaker 1: are the things that you should look for in the 97 00:06:04,600 --> 00:06:06,919 Speaker 1: guys and girls that are going to lead you. So 98 00:06:07,279 --> 00:06:12,279 Speaker 1: our view of America is based out of that ideology. 99 00:06:12,600 --> 00:06:16,640 Speaker 1: So I don't know how to separate my belief from 100 00:06:16,760 --> 00:06:20,239 Speaker 1: something else. I feel if I do, I'm actually giving 101 00:06:20,279 --> 00:06:22,839 Speaker 1: someone else the responsibility to fill in the void in 102 00:06:22,920 --> 00:06:26,120 Speaker 1: my life that it's my responsibility to do. And when 103 00:06:26,120 --> 00:06:30,640 Speaker 1: I see the barrage, the deluge of venoma that has 104 00:06:30,680 --> 00:06:34,360 Speaker 1: been spewed not just against miss Barrett, but others, Kevinall 105 00:06:34,440 --> 00:06:38,080 Speaker 1: and others. It's sickening because what you're saying is I 106 00:06:38,120 --> 00:06:40,839 Speaker 1: don't have a right to take my belief into the mainstream. 107 00:06:40,920 --> 00:06:44,120 Speaker 1: Well you know this better than I. This is how 108 00:06:44,120 --> 00:06:47,880 Speaker 1: this nation was formed. It was pastors that left their 109 00:06:47,920 --> 00:06:51,000 Speaker 1: pulpits after preaching on a Sunday morning, and when it 110 00:06:51,120 --> 00:06:54,440 Speaker 1: fought against those from across the pond, that we could 111 00:06:54,600 --> 00:06:58,320 Speaker 1: establish this union called the United States of America. So 112 00:06:58,400 --> 00:07:02,400 Speaker 1: there is no separation in our DNA to allow our 113 00:07:02,480 --> 00:07:06,160 Speaker 1: Judaeo Christian ethos to be lived out in our country, 114 00:07:06,240 --> 00:07:09,720 Speaker 1: not just in church on a Sunday morning. But as 115 00:07:09,800 --> 00:07:15,320 Speaker 1: other great abolitionists, Quakers, Frederick Douglas, as all the others, 116 00:07:15,360 --> 00:07:20,160 Speaker 1: Martin Luther King, they've left those areas and fortified a 117 00:07:20,360 --> 00:07:24,440 Speaker 1: nation to make sure that they understand, do not separate 118 00:07:24,560 --> 00:07:28,200 Speaker 1: your belief from what you practice every day. So I 119 00:07:28,240 --> 00:07:32,080 Speaker 1: think this president has done a great job in selecting 120 00:07:32,120 --> 00:07:36,800 Speaker 1: constitutionalists that will adhere to and not create some foreign 121 00:07:36,920 --> 00:07:40,760 Speaker 1: idea as we govern ourselves by it. So to separate 122 00:07:40,800 --> 00:07:43,920 Speaker 1: it is a non starter for those of us that 123 00:07:44,040 --> 00:07:48,200 Speaker 1: understand faith in America. Clusten I wrote a book, so 124 00:07:48,560 --> 00:07:52,400 Speaker 1: we Discovering God in America will walked through the relationship 125 00:07:52,480 --> 00:07:56,320 Speaker 1: between most of the major monuments in Washington and their 126 00:07:56,440 --> 00:08:00,000 Speaker 1: relationship with God, whether it's Jefferson or Washington are you named? 127 00:08:00,440 --> 00:08:04,880 Speaker 1: Which brings me a question about how our culture teaches 128 00:08:04,920 --> 00:08:09,720 Speaker 1: itself and talks to itself. Because history has both positive 129 00:08:09,760 --> 00:08:14,480 Speaker 1: and negative aspects, I'm curious how you respond to watching 130 00:08:14,520 --> 00:08:19,920 Speaker 1: a movement which tears down statues and which disfigures historic figures. 131 00:08:20,520 --> 00:08:24,400 Speaker 1: What's your reaction to this whole wave of destroying the past. 132 00:08:25,200 --> 00:08:29,960 Speaker 1: My heart is broken. My grandfather, mister Speaker, served in 133 00:08:30,000 --> 00:08:31,880 Speaker 1: World War Two. He gave his life. He made an 134 00:08:31,960 --> 00:08:36,200 Speaker 1: ultimate sacrifice for you, for me, for every American. And 135 00:08:36,240 --> 00:08:39,440 Speaker 1: it's something that I shared on a panel not too 136 00:08:39,480 --> 00:08:43,360 Speaker 1: long ago. And subsequently, even when this whole barrage of 137 00:08:43,440 --> 00:08:48,200 Speaker 1: Marxist ideology really through Barack Cusain Obama is being lived down. 138 00:08:48,240 --> 00:08:52,520 Speaker 1: I'm a Chicago native and I warned then, I say, hey, listen, 139 00:08:52,520 --> 00:08:54,160 Speaker 1: this is who this guy is, this is what he's 140 00:08:54,200 --> 00:08:57,160 Speaker 1: going to do here. And I asked the question on 141 00:08:57,240 --> 00:08:59,520 Speaker 1: this panel, I says, if you think this is good 142 00:09:00,040 --> 00:09:04,200 Speaker 1: by tearing down our history this way. I said, what 143 00:09:04,320 --> 00:09:08,520 Speaker 1: happens tomorrow when a group of let's say, those who 144 00:09:08,559 --> 00:09:13,920 Speaker 1: don't enjoy the idea of heteronormative relationships called heterosexual marriage. 145 00:09:14,000 --> 00:09:17,040 Speaker 1: Are we going to tear down Martin Luther King his statue? 146 00:09:17,120 --> 00:09:19,520 Speaker 1: Are we going to tear him down? Because he believed 147 00:09:19,520 --> 00:09:25,120 Speaker 1: that abortion was one of the plagues that pillaged especially 148 00:09:25,200 --> 00:09:28,320 Speaker 1: blacks in America. They said, well, how then, Bishop, do 149 00:09:28,360 --> 00:09:31,280 Speaker 1: you allow and how do you stand for some of 150 00:09:31,280 --> 00:09:35,360 Speaker 1: these individuals that had a very checkered path to be resurrected? 151 00:09:35,360 --> 00:09:39,400 Speaker 1: And I says, well, it's a biblical concept. You allow 152 00:09:39,559 --> 00:09:42,680 Speaker 1: things to remain for a purpose. If we tear down, 153 00:09:42,960 --> 00:09:45,960 Speaker 1: mister speaker, all of these monuments, how then do we 154 00:09:46,000 --> 00:09:50,760 Speaker 1: teach our children and our grandchildren that good overcame evil? 155 00:09:51,120 --> 00:09:55,320 Speaker 1: Will we resurrect I don't know. Some bl M activists, 156 00:09:55,360 --> 00:09:58,199 Speaker 1: they're Marxist ideology and put them up. Who's going to 157 00:09:58,280 --> 00:10:02,080 Speaker 1: tear them down? The next say let them stand. Let's 158 00:10:02,200 --> 00:10:05,720 Speaker 1: use it as a teaching mechanism for all people. Because 159 00:10:06,000 --> 00:10:09,120 Speaker 1: once you open Pandora's box and you begin to bring 160 00:10:09,160 --> 00:10:13,200 Speaker 1: down one statue, what stops you? Then from bringing down 161 00:10:13,240 --> 00:10:17,800 Speaker 1: every statue, we're rewriting history. It shows that we didn't 162 00:10:17,840 --> 00:10:21,680 Speaker 1: overcome the history, and better yet, it doesn't give our 163 00:10:21,800 --> 00:10:25,840 Speaker 1: kids an idea of how these things were conquered. Leave 164 00:10:25,920 --> 00:10:29,439 Speaker 1: these things up. We're the better for it, and I 165 00:10:29,480 --> 00:10:34,520 Speaker 1: believe we become a healthier, emotional, spiritual nation when we 166 00:10:34,640 --> 00:10:39,400 Speaker 1: understand that these monuments have meaning and we can't just 167 00:10:39,640 --> 00:10:43,960 Speaker 1: discard them because of some element of one's past that 168 00:10:44,240 --> 00:10:47,120 Speaker 1: wasn't good and it doesn't measure up to the right. Now, 169 00:10:47,320 --> 00:10:50,480 Speaker 1: what would happen with you and I one hundred years 170 00:10:50,480 --> 00:10:53,559 Speaker 1: from now, two hundred years from now. Surely someone will 171 00:10:53,600 --> 00:10:56,679 Speaker 1: see something in our lives that they didn't feel as 172 00:10:56,800 --> 00:10:59,640 Speaker 1: kosher as it should be. Should our names be a 173 00:10:59,720 --> 00:11:03,160 Speaker 1: ratic cat from our families because of such It's silly. 174 00:11:03,520 --> 00:11:07,200 Speaker 1: It's Marxism at its best, and as my grandfather did, 175 00:11:07,440 --> 00:11:10,800 Speaker 1: we must fight against it in order to preserve this union. 176 00:11:11,200 --> 00:11:13,640 Speaker 1: So I think that's right now. Along that line, one 177 00:11:13,679 --> 00:11:18,960 Speaker 1: of the boldest and most comprehensive examples on the left 178 00:11:19,800 --> 00:11:23,319 Speaker 1: is the New York Times sixteen nineteen project, as an 179 00:11:23,320 --> 00:11:28,040 Speaker 1: effort to recenter American life around slavery and argue that 180 00:11:28,080 --> 00:11:32,120 Speaker 1: it's not seventeen seventy six and the duclation independence that 181 00:11:32,240 --> 00:11:35,280 Speaker 1: defines us. But at sixteen nineteen and the arrival of 182 00:11:35,280 --> 00:11:39,200 Speaker 1: the first slave. What's your reaction been to the sixteen 183 00:11:39,320 --> 00:11:43,280 Speaker 1: nineteen project. Well, we have denounced them. The lady that 184 00:11:43,720 --> 00:11:47,640 Speaker 1: purported this madness, it has already admitted that it's not 185 00:11:47,720 --> 00:11:52,040 Speaker 1: from any historical data at all. Our founders beget to 186 00:11:52,040 --> 00:11:55,400 Speaker 1: fight this idea of slavery from its inception. It didn't 187 00:11:55,400 --> 00:11:58,480 Speaker 1: mean that out of the fifty that there were not 188 00:11:58,600 --> 00:12:01,880 Speaker 1: a handful of them that struggled with this, but every 189 00:12:01,960 --> 00:12:04,120 Speaker 1: single one of them began to fight against us. So 190 00:12:04,160 --> 00:12:07,960 Speaker 1: when I hear this false narrative about sixteen nineteen and 191 00:12:08,080 --> 00:12:12,480 Speaker 1: systemic racism, I remind my audience when I did the 192 00:12:12,800 --> 00:12:16,559 Speaker 1: op ed for the Washington Times about systemic racism, I said, 193 00:12:16,640 --> 00:12:20,280 Speaker 1: of course there's been systemic racism, and it has all 194 00:12:20,280 --> 00:12:22,840 Speaker 1: come from a party called the Democratic Party, the same 195 00:12:22,880 --> 00:12:25,920 Speaker 1: party that gave you the KKK Jim Crow Laws, the 196 00:12:26,000 --> 00:12:29,160 Speaker 1: same party, by the way, mister speaker, that is still 197 00:12:29,320 --> 00:12:33,640 Speaker 1: using identity politics. When I hear someone like Joe Biden 198 00:12:34,040 --> 00:12:37,520 Speaker 1: say that if you're really black or brown and you 199 00:12:37,559 --> 00:12:40,800 Speaker 1: don't vote this particular way, you're really not what you 200 00:12:40,920 --> 00:12:44,240 Speaker 1: say that you are. So the same party that gave 201 00:12:44,360 --> 00:12:50,560 Speaker 1: us this horrible disease in America called racism and institutional racism, 202 00:12:51,000 --> 00:12:54,520 Speaker 1: they still exist. We fight against it. We then remind 203 00:12:54,559 --> 00:12:59,520 Speaker 1: our audiences of the institution of the Goop Party why 204 00:12:59,600 --> 00:13:02,520 Speaker 1: it was form and it was formed to fight against 205 00:13:03,000 --> 00:13:06,720 Speaker 1: these groups called the Democratic Party that forbade the thirteen 206 00:13:06,760 --> 00:13:11,720 Speaker 1: fourteen fifteenth Amendment for even becoming part of our American experience. 207 00:13:12,000 --> 00:13:15,439 Speaker 1: And when we do, many individuals are shocked because they 208 00:13:15,480 --> 00:13:20,640 Speaker 1: realize the fallacy of the sixteen nineteen project. It's a joke. 209 00:13:20,880 --> 00:13:24,760 Speaker 1: And for this garbage to be dumped upon the precious 210 00:13:24,840 --> 00:13:29,400 Speaker 1: minds of our kids, knowing it has no historical relevance 211 00:13:29,480 --> 00:13:34,240 Speaker 1: at all other than to further a Marxist ideology, we 212 00:13:34,440 --> 00:13:37,080 Speaker 1: better get busy. That is the reason why I wrote 213 00:13:37,160 --> 00:13:40,680 Speaker 1: my book on Answering eight Race Questions. This is the 214 00:13:40,720 --> 00:13:43,480 Speaker 1: reason why we have a template that's going out very 215 00:13:43,559 --> 00:13:46,640 Speaker 1: very soon to corporations to say, hey, how about let's 216 00:13:46,640 --> 00:13:49,520 Speaker 1: get to all lives matter. We're soon to going to 217 00:13:49,600 --> 00:13:53,400 Speaker 1: corporations to begin to teach that every life matters, and 218 00:13:53,559 --> 00:13:58,480 Speaker 1: in doing so, we will actually dispel this idea that 219 00:13:59,000 --> 00:14:03,160 Speaker 1: sixteen nineteen is how our nation was founded. Its garbage. 220 00:14:03,240 --> 00:14:07,160 Speaker 1: It's junk. And by the way, we also remind them 221 00:14:07,200 --> 00:14:09,720 Speaker 1: that it wasn't a group of white guys that got 222 00:14:09,720 --> 00:14:12,400 Speaker 1: on some boats and went over into Africa and began 223 00:14:12,480 --> 00:14:15,840 Speaker 1: to just snatch millions and millions of people. Was tribal fighting, 224 00:14:15,960 --> 00:14:18,439 Speaker 1: as it has been, by the way, on every continent. 225 00:14:19,000 --> 00:14:21,760 Speaker 1: And it was blacks that were selling blacks and Islamists 226 00:14:21,920 --> 00:14:25,080 Speaker 1: that were really profiting off of this, selling it to 227 00:14:25,160 --> 00:14:28,359 Speaker 1: Spaniards and others. And when we give that full narrative, 228 00:14:29,080 --> 00:14:32,200 Speaker 1: most of our black and brown and white liberal audiences 229 00:14:32,240 --> 00:14:36,120 Speaker 1: are actually shocked at that kind of history. So sixteen 230 00:14:36,200 --> 00:14:39,320 Speaker 1: nineteen should find itself from where it started, and that's 231 00:14:39,360 --> 00:14:42,440 Speaker 1: in the trash can of life. It's silly, and we 232 00:14:42,560 --> 00:15:02,520 Speaker 1: must push back against it. Because you work on this, 233 00:15:03,320 --> 00:15:05,520 Speaker 1: what do you think the impact is on the average 234 00:15:05,520 --> 00:15:09,560 Speaker 1: African Americans? Are they sewed round by the elite media 235 00:15:09,600 --> 00:15:11,480 Speaker 1: that it's hard to reach them, or are they actually 236 00:15:12,360 --> 00:15:15,200 Speaker 1: open to this kind of conversation. We do have a 237 00:15:15,240 --> 00:15:18,640 Speaker 1: mixed bag, and this is what we find. It is 238 00:15:18,680 --> 00:15:22,120 Speaker 1: difficult to pill back that onion when their diet has 239 00:15:22,160 --> 00:15:26,800 Speaker 1: been mainstream media for decades, but because of the credibility 240 00:15:26,960 --> 00:15:30,040 Speaker 1: of our organization and the individuals that have helped me 241 00:15:30,200 --> 00:15:34,400 Speaker 1: to found this group, we have tremendous leverage. We only 242 00:15:34,560 --> 00:15:39,280 Speaker 1: hope and wish and pray that more mainstream media would 243 00:15:39,280 --> 00:15:41,960 Speaker 1: allow this to go forward, just in a dialogue or 244 00:15:42,040 --> 00:15:45,200 Speaker 1: debate of any kind, because truth is always going to 245 00:15:45,200 --> 00:15:48,000 Speaker 1: prevail once this information is out there, and I can 246 00:15:48,040 --> 00:15:52,040 Speaker 1: tell you personally, we're seeing a change. I believe this 247 00:15:52,080 --> 00:15:54,000 Speaker 1: is why you're seeing the polling as it relates to 248 00:15:54,040 --> 00:15:58,080 Speaker 1: blacks in America even looking at this current president as 249 00:15:58,080 --> 00:16:00,200 Speaker 1: someone that they would be interesting. And it's not just 250 00:16:00,200 --> 00:16:02,560 Speaker 1: because of the great economic things that this man has done. 251 00:16:03,000 --> 00:16:07,280 Speaker 1: It's because he's showing a side of the mainstream media 252 00:16:07,400 --> 00:16:11,360 Speaker 1: and others that have had the stranglehold and all of 253 00:16:11,400 --> 00:16:16,200 Speaker 1: their nefarious activities are now being exposed through the Conduit 254 00:16:16,320 --> 00:16:19,640 Speaker 1: and the person of Donald J. Trump, And as a 255 00:16:19,680 --> 00:16:22,760 Speaker 1: result of it, we're taking advantage of it to say, hey, 256 00:16:22,800 --> 00:16:26,640 Speaker 1: and also consider this part of your history or that 257 00:16:26,880 --> 00:16:30,360 Speaker 1: part of your history, and in doing so, we're winning 258 00:16:30,640 --> 00:16:36,360 Speaker 1: this argument. The problem has been getting this information out, 259 00:16:36,920 --> 00:16:39,640 Speaker 1: and not that we're having it, but making sure that 260 00:16:39,680 --> 00:16:44,000 Speaker 1: it's constant diet as well, that there is a juxtaposition 261 00:16:44,440 --> 00:16:47,400 Speaker 1: of the bad things they've been eating versus what we're 262 00:16:47,440 --> 00:16:50,840 Speaker 1: talking about. Every time we do that, mister speaker, we 263 00:16:51,120 --> 00:16:55,560 Speaker 1: win this argument hands down. It's just making sure that 264 00:16:55,600 --> 00:16:59,160 Speaker 1: we have the exposure to do it. Hence, that's why 265 00:16:59,200 --> 00:17:01,680 Speaker 1: I put this book together, to make sure that they 266 00:17:01,720 --> 00:17:04,040 Speaker 1: would have something to be able to look at these 267 00:17:04,160 --> 00:17:07,320 Speaker 1: racial issues, look at it through the lens of a 268 00:17:07,440 --> 00:17:13,240 Speaker 1: Judaeo Christian ethos, and in doing so we win hands down. 269 00:17:13,480 --> 00:17:18,600 Speaker 1: It's working. Do you find other pastors are following your leaders? 270 00:17:18,640 --> 00:17:22,800 Speaker 1: There are growing son so on pastors that faith matters 271 00:17:22,840 --> 00:17:27,080 Speaker 1: and faith has to be protected. Absolutely. I sat on 272 00:17:27,240 --> 00:17:30,760 Speaker 1: a panel in Lynchburg, Virginia at Liberty University a few 273 00:17:30,760 --> 00:17:32,800 Speaker 1: times in the last month and a half, and I 274 00:17:32,840 --> 00:17:35,600 Speaker 1: can tell you outside of how great that experience was, 275 00:17:36,080 --> 00:17:38,800 Speaker 1: it was the pastors that were coming to me afterwards. 276 00:17:39,200 --> 00:17:41,520 Speaker 1: It was the pastors that were saying, how are you 277 00:17:41,600 --> 00:17:44,440 Speaker 1: doing this? And there is some fear because there's been 278 00:17:44,720 --> 00:17:48,719 Speaker 1: this cancel culture, that they fear that individuals would leave 279 00:17:48,760 --> 00:17:52,320 Speaker 1: their ministry. They fear that if individuals withinside of their 280 00:17:52,359 --> 00:17:56,160 Speaker 1: ministry were to take a public stand even in their workplace, 281 00:17:56,440 --> 00:17:59,199 Speaker 1: they would be ostracized and they would be canceled. And 282 00:17:59,520 --> 00:18:02,920 Speaker 1: we see where individuals are losing their jobs, but they 283 00:18:02,920 --> 00:18:06,159 Speaker 1: are gravitating towards us because they realize that there are 284 00:18:06,200 --> 00:18:07,880 Speaker 1: some of us out here that are fighting. They said, 285 00:18:07,920 --> 00:18:10,240 Speaker 1: you know what, if we lose it all, bless God, 286 00:18:10,280 --> 00:18:13,119 Speaker 1: we just lose it all. Our nation is worth preserving, 287 00:18:13,520 --> 00:18:16,480 Speaker 1: even if it cost us, as it did the founder's 288 00:18:16,880 --> 00:18:20,679 Speaker 1: livelihoods and various accouchments that go along with life. But 289 00:18:20,800 --> 00:18:24,159 Speaker 1: they realize that part of this idea of Christianity is 290 00:18:24,200 --> 00:18:27,600 Speaker 1: suffering and if we're not willing to take a few 291 00:18:27,960 --> 00:18:31,120 Speaker 1: bruises along the way, we're going to lose it. So 292 00:18:31,359 --> 00:18:33,560 Speaker 1: they're watching us, and there are a lot of them. 293 00:18:33,600 --> 00:18:39,000 Speaker 1: In all fairness, they're living vicariously through us because they're saying, 294 00:18:39,080 --> 00:18:41,520 Speaker 1: thank you for being out there, thank you for doing 295 00:18:41,560 --> 00:18:45,440 Speaker 1: this for us, because they are being bombarded. And one 296 00:18:45,480 --> 00:18:48,440 Speaker 1: would only have to overlook the landscape of America where 297 00:18:48,440 --> 00:18:52,080 Speaker 1: you see who's being most impacted even in this shutdown, 298 00:18:52,400 --> 00:18:56,480 Speaker 1: it's the churches. Casinos are open, liquor stores are open, 299 00:18:56,760 --> 00:19:01,760 Speaker 1: marijuana dispensaries they're open. But when it comes to the church, 300 00:19:02,320 --> 00:19:05,840 Speaker 1: we need to be silent, don't sing, don't pray out loud, 301 00:19:06,520 --> 00:19:11,119 Speaker 1: don't even gather at half the amount as other groups 302 00:19:11,119 --> 00:19:14,600 Speaker 1: are allowed to do. They're finally understanding that is the 303 00:19:14,760 --> 00:19:18,880 Speaker 1: ecumenical community because we're in constant contact with them, that 304 00:19:18,920 --> 00:19:22,080 Speaker 1: if they don't engage, if they don't get out and 305 00:19:22,280 --> 00:19:25,080 Speaker 1: make a difference, not just through praying, that's a great thing, 306 00:19:25,480 --> 00:19:27,840 Speaker 1: but you've got to put some elbow grease to your 307 00:19:27,880 --> 00:19:31,120 Speaker 1: prayers there. And if they don't get out and proclaim 308 00:19:31,280 --> 00:19:35,639 Speaker 1: individual candidates that are going to represent their constitutional and 309 00:19:35,680 --> 00:19:39,720 Speaker 1: more important, their biblical world view of having choice and 310 00:19:39,840 --> 00:19:44,240 Speaker 1: to speak at their own whim, we will lose this nation. 311 00:19:44,680 --> 00:19:48,760 Speaker 1: And I would just rather honestly die fighting than to 312 00:19:48,840 --> 00:19:53,440 Speaker 1: see this great nation lost. I can't afford that. How 313 00:19:53,480 --> 00:19:58,040 Speaker 1: many people do you think understand the depth of the 314 00:19:58,119 --> 00:20:00,879 Speaker 1: threat and the scale of the threat. I agree with you, 315 00:20:00,920 --> 00:20:03,240 Speaker 1: and I'm Jason. When you're out talking to people and 316 00:20:03,720 --> 00:20:07,159 Speaker 1: you're visiting churches or you're giving speeches, what kind of 317 00:20:07,200 --> 00:20:10,200 Speaker 1: reaction to you? I mean, do people take this seriously 318 00:20:10,280 --> 00:20:12,800 Speaker 1: or do they shrug it off? No, they are taking 319 00:20:12,800 --> 00:20:15,880 Speaker 1: it very seriously. But here's a negative side to that. 320 00:20:16,400 --> 00:20:19,120 Speaker 1: I'm hardened. And I've often, and I mean this literally, 321 00:20:19,160 --> 00:20:22,240 Speaker 1: this is not a metaphor here, I've actually wept quite 322 00:20:22,240 --> 00:20:26,719 Speaker 1: a bit because I realize, my God, for decades, individuals 323 00:20:26,760 --> 00:20:32,080 Speaker 1: have been again dieting on the mainstream liberal narrative, and 324 00:20:32,240 --> 00:20:35,880 Speaker 1: it has just poisoned their minds, poison them. And when 325 00:20:35,880 --> 00:20:38,560 Speaker 1: we go in with the attempt to extrapolate some of 326 00:20:38,560 --> 00:20:41,159 Speaker 1: this venom that has been poured into their veins of 327 00:20:41,200 --> 00:20:45,280 Speaker 1: their minds, they're shocked. Some sit there as if though 328 00:20:45,359 --> 00:20:48,160 Speaker 1: they've just heard something for the first time, and they're 329 00:20:48,240 --> 00:20:50,920 Speaker 1: shocked to see the things that they're seeing. And they 330 00:20:50,960 --> 00:20:54,879 Speaker 1: come to us often afterwards, even including those leaders of 331 00:20:54,880 --> 00:20:57,920 Speaker 1: those large congregations, and they're saying, we didn't know this, 332 00:20:58,440 --> 00:21:00,560 Speaker 1: Why are they not telling us this? Why are we 333 00:21:00,600 --> 00:21:04,360 Speaker 1: not hearing this? And they're angry because they realize, in 334 00:21:04,400 --> 00:21:08,200 Speaker 1: the words of Malcolm X, they've been had and hoodwinked 335 00:21:08,200 --> 00:21:11,920 Speaker 1: and duped and there lies the problem right there. So 336 00:21:12,359 --> 00:21:16,360 Speaker 1: they're shocked. There's a dismay. There's some that are disgruntled. 337 00:21:16,720 --> 00:21:19,480 Speaker 1: Some of it turns into a bitterness and almost a 338 00:21:19,920 --> 00:21:25,800 Speaker 1: hatred towards the mainstream media because they're not hearing this information. 339 00:21:26,119 --> 00:21:28,920 Speaker 1: They didn't know anything about Margaret Sanger and what she did. 340 00:21:29,160 --> 00:21:32,800 Speaker 1: They didn't understand the connection of planned parenthood. But our 341 00:21:32,920 --> 00:21:36,920 Speaker 1: videos showed who these individuals were, what their objectives or 342 00:21:37,040 --> 00:21:40,399 Speaker 1: especially for black and brown communities, and in doing so, 343 00:21:41,080 --> 00:21:45,159 Speaker 1: I'm telling you we're seeing a difference. It's just trying 344 00:21:45,200 --> 00:21:49,840 Speaker 1: to get this information out there. We are constantly pushing 345 00:21:49,880 --> 00:21:53,920 Speaker 1: it out there for their consumption, and when they begin 346 00:21:54,040 --> 00:21:57,560 Speaker 1: to partake of this, they do see a change. This 347 00:21:57,640 --> 00:22:16,960 Speaker 1: is why, mister speaker, we do the work that we do. Well, 348 00:22:17,000 --> 00:22:19,480 Speaker 1: your book Eight Questions, there's some key parts of it 349 00:22:19,840 --> 00:22:23,280 Speaker 1: and the whole notion of how the Black Lives Matter 350 00:22:23,400 --> 00:22:28,720 Speaker 1: movement and it's proclaimed mission to eradicate white supremacy. But 351 00:22:29,240 --> 00:22:31,760 Speaker 1: I always tell people there's a much deeper story there, 352 00:22:32,280 --> 00:22:35,440 Speaker 1: and I'm curious what your reaction to it is. Well, 353 00:22:35,480 --> 00:22:39,280 Speaker 1: it's simple. They're Marxists. They tell you who they are. 354 00:22:39,359 --> 00:22:43,960 Speaker 1: They say that we are against any heteroonormative ideal called 355 00:22:44,280 --> 00:22:48,879 Speaker 1: heterosexual marriage. There for pushing an ideology as relates to 356 00:22:49,080 --> 00:22:53,240 Speaker 1: gender instead of God's ideal. They are anti God. They 357 00:22:53,359 --> 00:22:57,000 Speaker 1: don't enjoy the concept of God. And so when we 358 00:22:57,080 --> 00:23:01,000 Speaker 1: begin to share their history, who these individuals are now. Spiritually, 359 00:23:01,160 --> 00:23:03,800 Speaker 1: I go a little deeper as I have even on 360 00:23:04,000 --> 00:23:07,720 Speaker 1: the pulpit in which I reside every single Sunday. I'm 361 00:23:07,840 --> 00:23:11,679 Speaker 1: very fortunate. I have twenty plus different ethnic groups that 362 00:23:11,720 --> 00:23:14,320 Speaker 1: I shepherd over on any given Sunday. And I just 363 00:23:14,400 --> 00:23:18,960 Speaker 1: did in the last four weeks a whole portion of BLM. 364 00:23:19,200 --> 00:23:22,440 Speaker 1: What they stand for, even their spiritual roots, how they 365 00:23:22,600 --> 00:23:26,360 Speaker 1: believe in conjuring up dead spirits to help empower them 366 00:23:26,359 --> 00:23:28,679 Speaker 1: in a lot of Christians have no idea. They say, 367 00:23:28,760 --> 00:23:31,160 Speaker 1: oh my God, is this really true. Well, we show 368 00:23:31,200 --> 00:23:33,359 Speaker 1: them those facts, and we show them what their intent 369 00:23:33,560 --> 00:23:37,080 Speaker 1: is to break up the family. And let's remember when 370 00:23:37,080 --> 00:23:40,120 Speaker 1: a white and black family take care of their children, 371 00:23:40,200 --> 00:23:45,320 Speaker 1: don't have kids prior to marriage, get an education. There's 372 00:23:45,320 --> 00:23:48,000 Speaker 1: no difference in black and whites in America. There's the 373 00:23:48,040 --> 00:23:51,800 Speaker 1: same economic output. And what you'd see in the Black 374 00:23:51,840 --> 00:23:56,480 Speaker 1: Lives Matter movement. Instead of giants like those of our past, 375 00:23:56,600 --> 00:23:59,600 Speaker 1: where rabbis and blacks got together to march for and 376 00:23:59,720 --> 00:24:03,680 Speaker 1: change laws, these Marxis are not interested in changing laws. 377 00:24:03,680 --> 00:24:07,400 Speaker 1: They are interested in burning down buildings and destroying property 378 00:24:07,400 --> 00:24:11,040 Speaker 1: of not just whites, but blacks alike. So we expose 379 00:24:11,200 --> 00:24:14,199 Speaker 1: the Black Lives Matter movement, and we go against the 380 00:24:14,280 --> 00:24:19,879 Speaker 1: companies like Nike that support this same concept in their country, 381 00:24:19,920 --> 00:24:22,760 Speaker 1: and we tie in what I call mister speak of 382 00:24:22,800 --> 00:24:26,359 Speaker 1: their foot soldiers like Colin Kaepernick and Lebron James and 383 00:24:26,400 --> 00:24:29,320 Speaker 1: how they're profiting off of the leager groups and other 384 00:24:29,359 --> 00:24:33,639 Speaker 1: minority Christians that are in these areas. Your politics does matter, 385 00:24:33,920 --> 00:24:36,560 Speaker 1: and so we even tie it in when you vote 386 00:24:36,560 --> 00:24:39,359 Speaker 1: a certain kind of way. We show them that when 387 00:24:39,440 --> 00:24:43,320 Speaker 1: you make wise decisions, it doesn't just impact one area 388 00:24:43,359 --> 00:24:46,000 Speaker 1: of your life, it impacts every area of your life. 389 00:24:46,119 --> 00:24:48,680 Speaker 1: And we expose it for what it is. And when 390 00:24:48,720 --> 00:24:51,640 Speaker 1: they learn the history and the belief of the BLM, 391 00:24:51,840 --> 00:24:55,280 Speaker 1: they're shocked. And again same question, why don't we hear 392 00:24:55,320 --> 00:24:58,679 Speaker 1: this on the mainstream media. Our group is making sure 393 00:24:58,920 --> 00:25:02,399 Speaker 1: that they're hearing it, and though the mainstream media won't 394 00:25:02,440 --> 00:25:05,720 Speaker 1: talk about it, we're talking about it and we're having 395 00:25:05,760 --> 00:25:10,560 Speaker 1: tremendous success. We're watching an epiphany happen right before our eyes. 396 00:25:10,560 --> 00:25:13,520 Speaker 1: And I really believe in part this is why we're 397 00:25:13,560 --> 00:25:17,679 Speaker 1: seeing such large groups in black and brown communities that 398 00:25:17,720 --> 00:25:21,400 Speaker 1: are leaning towards President Donald J. Trump as well, because 399 00:25:21,520 --> 00:25:25,840 Speaker 1: he's exposing these elements in our society, and we are 400 00:25:25,960 --> 00:25:29,800 Speaker 1: certainly as a nonprofit group. While we're not and cannot 401 00:25:29,840 --> 00:25:34,960 Speaker 1: publicly support him individually, I do support him for these reasons. 402 00:25:35,160 --> 00:25:38,359 Speaker 1: We're having tremendous success and seeing it and exposing the 403 00:25:38,440 --> 00:25:41,600 Speaker 1: Black Lives Matter movement as well as Antifa and other 404 00:25:41,680 --> 00:25:46,359 Speaker 1: French groups that desire is to destroy America. You know, 405 00:25:46,440 --> 00:25:51,240 Speaker 1: I think the issue there is why they're so fanatic. 406 00:25:51,359 --> 00:25:54,399 Speaker 1: What do you think happened to these people? Oh? I 407 00:25:54,440 --> 00:25:57,359 Speaker 1: think they have always been this way. Again, those of 408 00:25:57,440 --> 00:26:01,760 Speaker 1: us who have read Salolinsky's book Ruth for Radicals, they're 409 00:26:01,800 --> 00:26:05,600 Speaker 1: just taking a page from what saw taught. The Hillary 410 00:26:05,600 --> 00:26:09,200 Speaker 1: Clintons and the Barack Obamas and others. They are here 411 00:26:09,280 --> 00:26:15,080 Speaker 1: to destroy this country. Their motive, their objective is to 412 00:26:15,119 --> 00:26:18,480 Speaker 1: do so that they can establish their own idea. And 413 00:26:18,520 --> 00:26:21,080 Speaker 1: we know that there are those that are in Europe, 414 00:26:21,440 --> 00:26:25,880 Speaker 1: those that are in China that have helped support financially 415 00:26:26,119 --> 00:26:30,000 Speaker 1: these groups. We are exposing where these funds are not 416 00:26:30,040 --> 00:26:34,359 Speaker 1: only coming from, but who in what candidates they're going to, 417 00:26:34,880 --> 00:26:38,239 Speaker 1: and how they're not taking these hundreds of millions of 418 00:26:38,240 --> 00:26:41,119 Speaker 1: dollars that are being poured into their organizations to go 419 00:26:41,160 --> 00:26:44,480 Speaker 1: out and start private and charter schools. They're not interested 420 00:26:44,520 --> 00:26:48,560 Speaker 1: in things of that magnitude to make sure that black 421 00:26:48,600 --> 00:26:51,120 Speaker 1: men are encouraged to stay in their home and raise 422 00:26:51,200 --> 00:26:54,840 Speaker 1: their children. The very systemic problems that they've created, they're 423 00:26:54,880 --> 00:26:57,919 Speaker 1: not taking the money to do it. They have one objective. 424 00:26:58,440 --> 00:27:02,360 Speaker 1: That objective is to destroy the United States of America, 425 00:27:02,440 --> 00:27:07,080 Speaker 1: to make it a more Marxist nation. We are exposing it. 426 00:27:07,320 --> 00:27:10,840 Speaker 1: That is their mo and we're making sure that not 427 00:27:10,880 --> 00:27:16,439 Speaker 1: just black and brown, but white liberals are aware that 428 00:27:16,520 --> 00:27:19,960 Speaker 1: these things will have a universal effect on all of 429 00:27:20,040 --> 00:27:22,359 Speaker 1: us here, and we have to unite black and white, 430 00:27:22,359 --> 00:27:25,760 Speaker 1: brown and yellow together to make sure that we push 431 00:27:25,800 --> 00:27:28,959 Speaker 1: back on that false narrative. Well, I'm just struck with 432 00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:33,680 Speaker 1: the notion that you have a desperate desire for validation. 433 00:27:34,080 --> 00:27:36,760 Speaker 1: If you go back to the nineteen sixties, the weatherman 434 00:27:36,840 --> 00:27:40,719 Speaker 1: who actually planted about twenty five hundred bombs, they really 435 00:27:40,760 --> 00:27:44,040 Speaker 1: wanted to be validated by the black panthers who despise 436 00:27:44,160 --> 00:27:47,000 Speaker 1: them and said, look, you're all children of privilege, and 437 00:27:47,080 --> 00:27:48,879 Speaker 1: when you're done playing your little games, you're gonna go 438 00:27:48,920 --> 00:27:51,440 Speaker 1: out and get a good job. And no you're not us, 439 00:27:51,760 --> 00:27:53,520 Speaker 1: but you get some of the same thing here where 440 00:27:53,560 --> 00:27:57,359 Speaker 1: the advantage of the founders of Black Lives Matter is 441 00:27:57,680 --> 00:28:01,000 Speaker 1: that there are a whole block of white radicals you 442 00:28:01,240 --> 00:28:04,320 Speaker 1: desperately want to be accepted. It's almost as though it's 443 00:28:04,320 --> 00:28:08,680 Speaker 1: an identity crisis. I need you to validate me and 444 00:28:08,720 --> 00:28:12,119 Speaker 1: so I can be radical with you. Well, it's the 445 00:28:12,200 --> 00:28:16,320 Speaker 1: same thing. Isn't it ironic that what they're asking for 446 00:28:17,359 --> 00:28:19,640 Speaker 1: is the very thing that they say that they fight against. 447 00:28:19,960 --> 00:28:23,560 Speaker 1: See again, what you just, in my opinion, eloquently did 448 00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:28,480 Speaker 1: just now you expose the anti God narrative, because what 449 00:28:28,640 --> 00:28:32,840 Speaker 1: they're interested in doing is clumping everyone together and making 450 00:28:32,840 --> 00:28:37,480 Speaker 1: you identify either by gender and or by the color 451 00:28:37,720 --> 00:28:43,640 Speaker 1: of your skin. That's an anti God position. God's position 452 00:28:43,800 --> 00:28:49,360 Speaker 1: is every individual matters, every individual is precious in his eyes. 453 00:28:49,800 --> 00:28:52,520 Speaker 1: And no, we're not to group ourselves together, whether we're 454 00:28:52,600 --> 00:28:55,160 Speaker 1: tall or short, or the color of Shrek or not. 455 00:28:56,080 --> 00:29:00,960 Speaker 1: We are here individually, and we stand individually before individual God. 456 00:29:01,520 --> 00:29:05,280 Speaker 1: Their m was to make sure that people group themselves 457 00:29:05,320 --> 00:29:09,880 Speaker 1: together and identify as a group. Well, the concept of 458 00:29:09,920 --> 00:29:13,280 Speaker 1: God must be eradicated if you're going to really do that, 459 00:29:13,880 --> 00:29:16,640 Speaker 1: because not to do that, what you're saying is that 460 00:29:16,720 --> 00:29:20,320 Speaker 1: now God has played some sort of favorite here, and 461 00:29:20,520 --> 00:29:24,120 Speaker 1: he likes one group because they're pink and orange or 462 00:29:24,160 --> 00:29:26,760 Speaker 1: blue or purple, but he doesn't like the other group 463 00:29:26,800 --> 00:29:30,360 Speaker 1: because they're just fill in the blank there. So again, 464 00:29:30,720 --> 00:29:36,080 Speaker 1: they are a anti good narrative spewing type of group 465 00:29:36,560 --> 00:29:40,720 Speaker 1: that is really echoing, by the way, anyone that supports 466 00:29:40,760 --> 00:29:45,920 Speaker 1: this concept that God must be eradicated. And we see this, 467 00:29:46,080 --> 00:29:49,680 Speaker 1: by the way, when you have the DNC platform when 468 00:29:49,680 --> 00:29:54,160 Speaker 1: they're voting and they're voting against Israel, when they're voting 469 00:29:54,280 --> 00:29:58,800 Speaker 1: against God being mentioned, there's the same element that you're 470 00:29:58,800 --> 00:30:02,479 Speaker 1: seeing in the Black Lives Matter. I personally, mister speaker, 471 00:30:02,560 --> 00:30:05,840 Speaker 1: take offense not just because of my father that happened 472 00:30:05,880 --> 00:30:09,120 Speaker 1: to be black, but my biological mother that happens to 473 00:30:09,160 --> 00:30:13,240 Speaker 1: be Jewish. And so I see the affront on both 474 00:30:13,240 --> 00:30:16,560 Speaker 1: sides here. And when I see this type of affront 475 00:30:16,640 --> 00:30:21,360 Speaker 1: on both sides, I'm reminding America, and remember the polls 476 00:30:21,400 --> 00:30:24,160 Speaker 1: are on my side with this here. The majority of 477 00:30:24,240 --> 00:30:30,080 Speaker 1: blacks actually still believe in God more so than whites do. 478 00:30:30,880 --> 00:30:33,080 Speaker 1: And so when I remind them that these groups are 479 00:30:33,080 --> 00:30:35,320 Speaker 1: trying to take their God away from them, and when 480 00:30:35,360 --> 00:30:39,040 Speaker 1: I expose them for who they are. I'm telling you 481 00:30:39,120 --> 00:30:42,920 Speaker 1: we're seeing a radical shift, and I believe we're looking 482 00:30:42,960 --> 00:30:44,760 Speaker 1: at the same thing in our polling by the way, 483 00:30:44,800 --> 00:30:48,760 Speaker 1: as well, that they're turning against these groups like BLM. 484 00:30:48,960 --> 00:30:53,080 Speaker 1: They're turning against organizations that gave them systemic racism in 485 00:30:53,120 --> 00:30:56,760 Speaker 1: the beginning of the Democratic National Party. They're turning against it. 486 00:30:56,920 --> 00:31:01,080 Speaker 1: Why we're simply giving them their history. And when people 487 00:31:01,360 --> 00:31:07,920 Speaker 1: hear a unfettered history, they often again begin to with 488 00:31:08,080 --> 00:31:11,760 Speaker 1: some sort of shame and disheartening. They can't believe what 489 00:31:11,800 --> 00:31:15,960 Speaker 1: they're hearing. But upon their own research, they're finding out 490 00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:19,320 Speaker 1: that our argument is valid and as a result of it, 491 00:31:19,720 --> 00:31:22,600 Speaker 1: we're winning this day. We just need to keep getting 492 00:31:22,640 --> 00:31:26,680 Speaker 1: this information out. If we do, we can make sure 493 00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:30,680 Speaker 1: that this nation stays sovereign and a nation that still 494 00:31:30,760 --> 00:31:33,280 Speaker 1: is allowed to believe, not just in a church pew, 495 00:31:33,440 --> 00:31:37,000 Speaker 1: not just in a synagogue, but this nation can allow 496 00:31:37,240 --> 00:31:41,120 Speaker 1: freedom of their religious expression wherever they are. This is 497 00:31:41,160 --> 00:31:43,920 Speaker 1: why we fight the way that we do. Well. Look, 498 00:31:43,960 --> 00:31:47,720 Speaker 1: I want to commend you. You've shown the courage that 499 00:31:47,800 --> 00:31:51,400 Speaker 1: many don't have. You are having an impact that is remarkable. 500 00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:55,160 Speaker 1: We have actually put an excerpt from your new book 501 00:31:55,600 --> 00:31:59,640 Speaker 1: eight Questions about Race. A black pastor responds to Black 502 00:31:59,680 --> 00:32:02,760 Speaker 1: Lives Matter on our show page at Newtsworld dot com, 503 00:32:02,800 --> 00:32:05,560 Speaker 1: and we've encouraged people to go and buy the book. 504 00:32:06,120 --> 00:32:09,480 Speaker 1: You are doing the Lord's work, and I mean that literally, 505 00:32:09,840 --> 00:32:14,000 Speaker 1: helping preserve in America that is one nation under God, 506 00:32:14,360 --> 00:32:16,800 Speaker 1: something which our friends on the left find impossible to 507 00:32:16,800 --> 00:32:20,520 Speaker 1: say anymore. I want to thank you for sharing with us. 508 00:32:20,600 --> 00:32:23,520 Speaker 1: I hope that every person who hears us will realize 509 00:32:23,960 --> 00:32:28,080 Speaker 1: the courage it takes to be Bishop Aubrey Shines and 510 00:32:28,120 --> 00:32:30,960 Speaker 1: the way in which you are living out your destiny. 511 00:32:31,440 --> 00:32:35,320 Speaker 1: And I really appreciate you being with us and helping 512 00:32:35,440 --> 00:32:38,920 Speaker 1: us educate a lot of people. I wish you well 513 00:32:38,920 --> 00:32:41,920 Speaker 1: in your journey. I hope you never falter or slow down. 514 00:32:42,320 --> 00:32:45,880 Speaker 1: You are making a huge difference, missus speaker. What a 515 00:32:45,920 --> 00:32:49,320 Speaker 1: great compliment, and thank you for again allowing us to 516 00:32:49,320 --> 00:32:51,960 Speaker 1: be a part of what you're doing. You have our support. 517 00:32:52,240 --> 00:32:54,800 Speaker 1: We're praying for you, your family and your staff and 518 00:32:54,880 --> 00:32:57,400 Speaker 1: all that you do. Help us fight and we'll preserve 519 00:32:57,560 --> 00:33:00,040 Speaker 1: this great nation. Thanks again so much for allowing I 520 00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:04,800 Speaker 1: guess to be a part of your narrative. News World 521 00:33:04,920 --> 00:33:08,960 Speaker 1: is produced by Gangwidge three sixty and iHeartMedia. Our executive 522 00:33:08,960 --> 00:33:12,560 Speaker 1: producer is Debbie Myers, our producer is Garnsey Sloan, and 523 00:33:12,640 --> 00:33:15,720 Speaker 1: our researcher is Rachel Peterson. The all work for the 524 00:33:15,720 --> 00:33:19,520 Speaker 1: show was created by Steve Penley. Special thanks to the 525 00:33:19,560 --> 00:33:22,720 Speaker 1: team at Gingwich three sixty. 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