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Speaker 1: It is Monday, Auguste. This is Jack's Happy Hour and

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Speaker 1: now a guy we affectionately referred to as Chris Conny's kryptonite,

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Speaker 1: Jan Peace shad Rick, Oh, and welcome in. Here we go.

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Speaker 1: It's Jaguars Happy Hour on a Monday, presented by Jet

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Speaker 1: Home Loans, j P Shadrick and the triumphant return of

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Speaker 1: Pete Prisco and Tony BASSELLI, gentlemen, great to be back

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Speaker 1: with you. Pete, what's going on? I'm back ready for

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Speaker 1: another season as weird as it's been. I mean, it's

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Speaker 1: my god, I can't even go to training camp. And

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Speaker 1: are you ready for another beat down? As you get

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Speaker 1: as it was like last season on Every Monday Night

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Speaker 1: where I dominated you and all takes. Talking to people

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Speaker 1: before this show came out, and they were talking about

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Speaker 1: how I use you and they feel sorry for you.

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Speaker 1: Sometimes they wonder how a little guy can beat up

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Speaker 1: on such a big man. Well, this is how we

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Speaker 1: know you're lying. No one ever looked at you and

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Speaker 1: said little big head, big big body, big belly down wrong.

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Speaker 1: Your height is your height, the nerve. Look at this,

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Speaker 1: look at my face. It's all drawn. Everything that's just

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Speaker 1: because you have a tan right now. You have the

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Speaker 1: South Florida Tan, the beaches right around the corner. All

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Speaker 1: the people here, though JP looks like he's tan. Well.

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Speaker 1: I have been out in the sun. I mean I

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Speaker 1: have been to practice unlike you too, the last few days.

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Speaker 1: So you know, yeah, it's nice to be outside, get

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Speaker 1: Since we were imprisoned for like four months. Good point,

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Speaker 1: excellent point, we've been opened a little longer around here.

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Speaker 1: I think down than Ben down in South Is that right? Absolutely? Um?

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Speaker 1: But you know what, the beach is great and it's open.

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Speaker 1: It's all you need. And here's what we're getting to

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Speaker 1: tonight on the program. Of course, the triumphant return of

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Speaker 1: Pete and Tony throughout the evening. I'm sure they'll bash

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Speaker 1: on each other as they always do. First day in

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Speaker 1: full pads today, defensive line has a revolving door they've

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Speaker 1: room the last couple of weeks. We'll get into all

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Speaker 1: the changes there and what it means moving ahead. How

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Speaker 1: to establish an offensive identity with no preseason games, only

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Speaker 1: fourteen padded practices thirteen after today, we'll get to some

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Speaker 1: social media questions will go around the National Football League

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Speaker 1: as well. Let's start with the strangest of training camps

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Speaker 1: and preseason. Of course, since we have spoken last time,

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Speaker 1: the league has canceled all preseason games. There are only

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Speaker 1: fourteen padded practices. If you ask Doug Moron, it's it's

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Speaker 1: really eleven full padded practices. There's a ramp up period.

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Speaker 1: Even with the pads on only ninety minutes today, they'll

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Speaker 1: expand a little bit tomorrow in the next couple of days,

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Speaker 1: so time is limited, and it's it's got to be

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Speaker 1: difficult Tony to to evaluate talent in eleven padded practice. Well,

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Speaker 1: first of all, it makes no sense to me. You

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Speaker 1: have basically, what is it, four weeks before opening day,

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Speaker 1: and you're gonna have eleven practices over four weeks with

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Speaker 1: no preseason games. It doesn't seem like enough number. Like listen,

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Speaker 1: if I was there, I and other guys that are

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Speaker 1: like the ten eleven practices. I'm ready to go, um

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Speaker 1: and I can go play. But this is a young

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Speaker 1: because how do you prove yourself and eleven padded practices,

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Speaker 1: and what happens when you're out of control, you get hurt.

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Speaker 1: That's where injuries happen. So I hope I'm wrong. Obviously

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Speaker 1: the dollars, Pete, That's all about the dollars. You know,

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Speaker 1: is the long story short is but how did they

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Speaker 1: diagnose it? Did he? Was he having issues? Health issues

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Speaker 1: that led to this? Is? Like? What was there some

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Speaker 1: event that said, hey, we need to check your heart

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Speaker 1: because it could be this. I mean that's the other question.

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Speaker 1: But it's I will say, and not knowing and so

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Speaker 1: not you know, pointing the finger or like saying anything

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Speaker 1: or anyone's at fault. Maybe it was just one of

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Speaker 1: those bad luck situations. Um, but I would have thought

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Speaker 1: that a full cardiac work up would be a part

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Speaker 1: of a physical for a free agent. I would think,

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Speaker 1: maybe I'm wrong, I have I mean, you know, I'm

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Speaker 1: assuming a lot of stuff here, But but I'll say

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Speaker 1: that did you have did you have physicals when you

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Speaker 1: were playing for the team? Did you have full physicals

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Speaker 1: every year? Yeah? I think, yeah, I guess we did.

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Speaker 1: I think and I know I did. I didn't e

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Speaker 1: KG when e K G have caught that the question.

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Speaker 1: I don't know that. I don't either, and so I'm

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Speaker 1: not like, that's why I'm very careful. I'm not pointing

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Speaker 1: to blame. I'm not saying it's anyway. It's no. I know,

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Speaker 1: it's tragic that I feel terrible for Rodney gutting gut

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Speaker 1: Gunter is because he can't play the game that he

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Speaker 1: loves and the fact that you know, I guess the

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Speaker 1: silver lining is is he signed at least a significant deal,

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Speaker 1: so there's a financial Um. I don't know, but if

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Speaker 1: it's guaranteed, I mean, I don't think you love that.

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Speaker 1: Typically those are guaranteed for injury. UM. I mean, unless

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Speaker 1: they can say it's not like he's retiring just to retire,

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Speaker 1: he's retiring for medical reasons, I'd assume it's all guaranteed.

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Speaker 1: I don't know any I mean, we're speculating a lot,

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Speaker 1: but I my guess is that in all future physicals

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Speaker 1: that this is something that the Jaguars will probably check

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Speaker 1: players coming in And maybe they did and they just

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Speaker 1: missed it. Maybe it was um undiagnosed with me. One

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Speaker 1: of the things that we did learn is that he

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Speaker 1: does not qualify for the surgery because it's not quite

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Speaker 1: enlarged enough. UM. So maybe that caused you know, it

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Speaker 1: to go undiagnosed or the test missed it. I mean,

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Speaker 1: who knows, but it's just terrible. You feel awful for him, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that he's having to go through this. UM. You feel

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Speaker 1: awful for the Jaguars or as an organization because they're

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Speaker 1: counting on him, um to help be a uh defensive alignment,

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Speaker 1: that we will get them more fortified against the run,

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Speaker 1: which they were very pooroust last year and and uh

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Speaker 1: struggled as we as well chronicled UM. And so it's

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Speaker 1: it's it's not good for anybody, but I think it

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Speaker 1: caught all of us by surprise, and I'm sure the

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Speaker 1: future will learn a little bit more about how this

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Speaker 1: came about, if there was an event or something, and

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Speaker 1: it would be fascinating to talk if you could, ever

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Speaker 1: I'm not. I'm sure no one wants to talk about

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Speaker 1: it right now, but at some point talk to either

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Speaker 1: the Jaguars team doctors or a doctors from another NFL team.

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Speaker 1: That's what you should be doing, Pete, your national guy.

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Speaker 1: I call some other doctors around the league. It's say, hey,

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Speaker 1: is this something that you would typically check for during

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Speaker 1: a free agent physical. I mean it's it's a legitimate question,

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Speaker 1: and I will check into it because I think you

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Speaker 1: have to check the heart. How could you not, Tony? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I listen, I don't know. Don't you to get a

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Speaker 1: body scan, like a body scan, like like like a

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Speaker 1: CT scan of your body, look at your organs and

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Speaker 1: stuff and make sure you're healthy. It's really technically sound, Pete.

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Speaker 1: Let me look at your organs and stuff. You know,

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Speaker 1: you drink the solution and they check out your organs.

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Speaker 1: You know what that is. So I think if I

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Speaker 1: remember right like I had, remember the combine get mrs

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Speaker 1: in your back and a bunch of different parts of

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Speaker 1: your body, your neck, your head and all that kind

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Speaker 1: of stuff, I think it's probably Houston as a free

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Speaker 1: agent or expansion whatever you were, the dumping they did

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Speaker 1: of you when you went there. Did you do a physical? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I don't remember what it was, so listen, yeah, I

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Speaker 1: don't remember. I mean I did something. I remember my soul.

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Speaker 1: I was so close to post off of my shoulder.

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Speaker 1: They couldn't really do a good look at my shoulder,

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Speaker 1: which I'm sure they wish they could have done all

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Speaker 1: over again. Um post looking back, but I remember being

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Speaker 1: at the hospital doing stuff. I don't remember the extent

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Speaker 1: of it. I'm being honest with your whole body. And

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Speaker 1: they started the top, they would have stopped because they

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Speaker 1: was so there was another air up there. That was

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Speaker 1: the first one. Was good. That was stupid, wasn't it? Dumping? Yeah? Great,

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Speaker 1: a great a dumping from the look. Well, this adds

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Speaker 1: to the list of changes on the defensive line over

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Speaker 1: the last couple of weeks have come hot and heavy

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Speaker 1: for the Jags and all different levels. Laurenti McCrae and

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Speaker 1: Al Wood's both opt out. McCrae was kind of the

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Speaker 1: third option as a but he's more of a special

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Speaker 1: teams player. He had no impact on the defensive mind

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Speaker 1: but he's roosted as a defensive end. That's the point.

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Speaker 1: Dante Vius Russell, who was that a lot of last

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Speaker 1: year or an active a lot of last year. He's

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Speaker 1: on injured reserve, Bryan Price, Rodney Gunter, as we mentioned,

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Speaker 1: and then you see on the screen there gotsus read

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Speaker 1: Davis Tomorrow and today Timmy Journey and enjoined the team.

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Speaker 1: A guy who's been around the league for a few years.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to Jacksonville first day in Pad's first day on

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Speaker 1: the field for Journey again. Um, and we'll see what

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Speaker 1: what he can bring on the interior this. I mean, listen,

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Speaker 1: here's a couple of things. When you look at that list,

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Speaker 1: you Adam got this that came from Denver blew out

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Speaker 1: a knee. You know, he's kind of on a prove

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Speaker 1: it deal. And see if his knees back and you know,

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Speaker 1: and what he can do. Um post a cl reconstruction.

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Speaker 1: Timmy journegins a guy like if you're literally picking up

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Speaker 1: guys off the street, like during camp. There's a reason. Now,

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Speaker 1: Timmy Journey was an outstanding player at his peak, a

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Speaker 1: really good player. Now the question is is what does

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Speaker 1: he have left in the tank? Obviously a bunch of

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Speaker 1: teams didn't think very much because no one else signed him.

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Speaker 1: Wasn't he Pete close to signing in Houston? He didn't.

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Speaker 1: He was asked about that today and he didn't have

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Speaker 1: a lot to say about it. He didn't. He kind

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Speaker 1: of about that. I don't know what that happened there,

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Speaker 1: but he was close to signing and Houston. And look,

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Speaker 1: he's a decent player when he's on the field. He's

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Speaker 1: not gonna and what player thirty players the game type

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Speaker 1: of guy right now? Yeah, he's they got the Hamilton

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Speaker 1: has to play. He has to be a he has

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Speaker 1: to be a factor in there. Well, I'll say the

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Speaker 1: biggest thing that has to happen now and not that

548
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Speaker 1: it didn't before, but David Bryant has to be a

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Speaker 1: stud like he's I mean, you're starting three technique and

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Speaker 1: he's got to be productive, and he's gotta be good

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Speaker 1: against the run, and he's got to be like a force,

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Speaker 1: like like he's the guy like you're going into how

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Speaker 1: do you start an opening day? Give me the four?

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Speaker 1: I would say Avery and knows, Tavin at three. I

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Speaker 1: put Josh at the big end, and I think in

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Speaker 1: GOAI will be signed. But then you think so Listen,

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Speaker 1: first of all, he fires his agent. Now he's like,

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Speaker 1: there's the reason he fired his agent. He should have

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Speaker 1: fired his getting bad advice. Secondly, he's sitting there right now.

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Speaker 1: Nobody is going to pay him, like right now, if

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Speaker 1: you would, it would be interesting. I'll give you one.

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Speaker 1: You wonder what to be really interesting If the Jaguar

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Speaker 1: said we're taking the tag off you right now, would

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Speaker 1: anyone pay him eighteen million dollars to play right end

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Speaker 1: for him. They're not paying Clowney eighteen millions. Well, they

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Speaker 1: played the Falcons paid Fouler fifteen It okay, but that's

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Speaker 1: my point. Feller also had thirteen sacks last year. Correct.

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Speaker 1: My question are the question, Pete, would anyone pay in

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Speaker 1: gock Way right now? If the Jaguars lifted the tag

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Speaker 1: eighteen million dollars a deal that averages eighteen yeah, no,

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Speaker 1: and the Jagga Wards offered him that and so. But

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Speaker 1: my point is he's the franchise at seventeen point nine.

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Speaker 1: If I'm a goa, I'm signing right now me too,

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Speaker 1: because no, absolutely no question about it. I don't think

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Speaker 1: he's getting that money anywhere else. So that's why. And listen,

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Speaker 1: Yah's a smart dude. Um, he played it out. Thought

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Speaker 1: he could get out of here. I thought he could

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Speaker 1: get a better deal. Um. I think he was probably

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Speaker 1: getting some bad advice from his agent based on the

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Speaker 1: market and what was out there. I mean, Clowney is

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Speaker 1: in a similar situation. I mean, it's shocking to me

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Speaker 1: that Clowney cannot get signed now. I think ultimately he

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Speaker 1: was asking for too much money too but right now

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Speaker 1: he's an implay though. What he means when he's been

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Speaker 1: on the field flowny, impactful player. He doesn't watch the pass.

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Speaker 1: We had three nap sacks last year. Yeah, but I

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Speaker 1: think he's disruptive. You watch him on tape. Yeah, I'm not.

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Speaker 1: I wouldn't pay him e tem nineteen million dollars either.

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Speaker 1: I'm saying, you know, what does he get thirteen to

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Speaker 1: fifteen right now? Yeah? I give I give him a

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Speaker 1: thirteen prove it deal. You know, get some incentives in it.

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Speaker 1: You gotta get ten double digit sacks, which he's never had.

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Speaker 1: I'll give him more money. But you're right, I think

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Speaker 1: he gets in and ordors breaks where he breaks sackles

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Speaker 1: on film. I saw that now being up close with him,

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Speaker 1: he has that power of of Andre Johnson. You know,

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Speaker 1: I hold Andre in high regards. That's my guy with

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Speaker 1: good friends but I've all also seen him work every day.

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Speaker 1: Uh see the power that he has. Uh he he

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Speaker 1: kind of reminds me a little bit of of Andre.

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Speaker 1: He has that type of power. Keenan mccartel, Jaguars wide

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Speaker 1: receivers coach, discussing rookie wide receiver love Vis krischn Alt

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Speaker 1: junior high praise for the rookie out of Colorado picked

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Speaker 1: in the second round. Welcome back to Jaguars Happy Hour.

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Speaker 1: J P. Shadrick of Pete Crisco and Tony was Sally

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Speaker 1: for the first time in twenty will be with you

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Speaker 1: each and every Monday throughout the regular season and hopefully

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Speaker 1: beyond for this Jaguars team. But you know, I was

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Speaker 1: walking in camp the other day a couple of days ago,

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Speaker 1: and it was the first time I had been somewhat close.

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Speaker 1: We're still distanced, of course, from the players, and you

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00:37:37,200 --> 00:37:40,440
Speaker 1: can't go anywhere near them, but there are certain places

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Speaker 1: on the edge of the practice field where they run

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Speaker 1: nearer you than others. And that was my first up

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Speaker 1: close look at this guy. And I think he's listed

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Speaker 1: six one, two, twenty seven. He is all of that

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00:37:53,280 --> 00:37:55,839
Speaker 1: Pete and it seems to be rock solid this guy.

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Speaker 1: That's big praise. When Keenan's talking names like that, throwing

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Speaker 1: those guys around, really big praise. And when you look

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Speaker 1: at his body, he looks like those guys. He's a

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Speaker 1: big physical guy. Um. I don't know if he runs

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Speaker 1: as well as Andre Johnson did, but I will say this,

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Speaker 1: the one thing that held him back in college was

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Speaker 1: the only thing that held the bank college was health.

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Speaker 1: He went on the field all the time. When he's

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Speaker 1: on the field, he was when he was on the

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Speaker 1: field as a productive player, big physical, strong, could go

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Speaker 1: get the ball. I think they might have a steel

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Speaker 1: on him because if he stays on the field, they

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Speaker 1: need that big physical presence there. It makes a lot

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Speaker 1: of sense. And hear Keenan say that he might want

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Speaker 1: to slow it down just a little bit. He only meant,

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Speaker 1: he only meant by the body type in this style.

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Speaker 1: That's all. Yeah, I mean, I mean, i'd agree you

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Speaker 1: know what he said, Pete. I would add that Keenan

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Speaker 1: probably needs to get some coloring on that beard, a

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Speaker 1: little bit of gray. That's what I was thinking. Who

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Speaker 1: is that old guy? God? Right? Um, yeah, listen, if

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Speaker 1: you go back this and all, uh the year before

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Speaker 1: he came out. I mean he was, you know, one

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Speaker 1: of the most powerful receivers at all college football, and

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Speaker 1: a lot of people say, if you have come out,

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Speaker 1: then he had been maybe a top fifteen pick. He

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Speaker 1: had the what the sports turney of injury is going

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Speaker 1: his last year in Colorado limited. His explosiveness was still good,

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Speaker 1: was still a productive player, but it also heard him

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Speaker 1: as he's trying to get ready for the combines, so

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Speaker 1: you really never saw the speed and explosiveness that he has.

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Speaker 1: He looks healthy, he looks good out there. I think

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Speaker 1: it's way it's too early to start making comparisons de

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Speaker 1: Andre Johnson or ant kom Bolden, both great players, border

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Speaker 1: line hall of famers, maybe hall of famers. It just depends. Um.

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Speaker 1: But boy Keened has seen a lot of guys and

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Speaker 1: he's been around a lot of really good receivers. And

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Speaker 1: the one thing I will say about Keenan, he does

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Speaker 1: not throw around compliments um that easily. So it's not

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Speaker 1: like he is a guy who speaks in hyperbole and

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Speaker 1: it is always pumping guys up a little bit more

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Speaker 1: than they need to be. So UM, I trust Keening.

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Speaker 1: I think he's a heck of a receiver coach and

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Speaker 1: uh and that's a good sign. And if listen, if

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Speaker 1: Snal can even live up to that praise, it's a win. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I think he has done a really good job with

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Speaker 1: the receivers. I think he's a good coach. Eventually he's

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Speaker 1: gonna be an offensive coordinator. Who knows, maybe down the

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Speaker 1: road he could be a head coach. But but he's

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Speaker 1: done a really good job with that group. I mean,

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Speaker 1: look at d J. Chark. I mean he took big

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Speaker 1: strides last year and I think Keaton has a lot

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Speaker 1: to do with it. I always say this, Keenan was

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Speaker 1: one of the best route runners I've ever seen in

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Speaker 1: the NFL. Right, I Bruce Isaac Bruce was one of them,

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Speaker 1: but Keenan was right there with him. He was special.

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Speaker 1: And that's a great thing to have if your a receiver,

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Speaker 1: to be able to have that guy teach you. No

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Speaker 1: doubt about that, and hopefully it'll pay off for Jay Gruden,

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Speaker 1: new offensive coordinator for the Jacksonville Jaguars, new offense, second

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Speaker 1: year quarterback in Gardner Minshew. They've met virtually over the

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Speaker 1: off season program, but finally they're on the field together.

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Speaker 1: What does Gruden think of his signal color in the huddle. Well,

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Speaker 1: we've mainly, like I said, we're starting installed and meeting

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Speaker 1: potatas of our offense, and Garter has been great. Man.

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Speaker 1: He's had a good off season. We had the virtual

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Speaker 1: off season, so we got a little jump start on

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Speaker 1: it um and then he carried over until when we

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Speaker 1: came back and started meeting here recently. So we've got

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Speaker 1: a long way to go. Yeah, a long way to go.

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Speaker 1: He said. This offense is in diapers still the other day,

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Speaker 1: so a lot left to be installed and learned. But

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Speaker 1: I guess what the clock's taking a little bit opening

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Speaker 1: day and what a thirteen padded practices between now an

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Speaker 1: opening day? Uh, that's a lot to get done, Peter

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Speaker 1: in a short amount of time. A new offense, a

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Speaker 1: young quarterback, a young team overall. How challenging will this

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Speaker 1: be for j Gruden? Well, I think it's gonna be

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Speaker 1: really challenging because clearly you want to see on the

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Speaker 1: field work in in you know, May and and you

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Speaker 1: didn't get that, so it will set the offense back

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Speaker 1: a little bit. And when you're young, offense has set

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Speaker 1: it back even more, particularly the young quarterback. But Tony

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Speaker 1: can speak to that better than I have. Tony. You

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Speaker 1: just say you were starting a season and you had

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Speaker 1: twenty days days not just padded practices to get everything

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Speaker 1: in As a young offense, can you get it in?

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Speaker 1: Are you asking me as a veteran that's about twenty

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Speaker 1: it's about fifteen days more than I might need. Um.

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Speaker 1: But again to your point, I'm talking about from a

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Speaker 1: perspective of the veteran who's been in an offense for

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Speaker 1: a long time, because you understand that, you understand the

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Speaker 1: concepts and what you're doing and everything else. The question

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Speaker 1: I have, because I agree with you, I don't think

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Speaker 1: it is enough time to get everything you want in

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Speaker 1: with a brand new offense with a young quarterback and

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Speaker 1: young skilled position. You're count just talking about some not

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Speaker 1: you're gonna count on him jink Ar, young player. Um,

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Speaker 1: you know you got your offensive line, some young players there,

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Speaker 1: some veterans and a good make us there. I guess uh.

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Speaker 1: And so I think it's difficult to get everything in.

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Speaker 1: I mean, if you think about the traditional installed period,

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Speaker 1: especially when you have a new coaching staff, new offensive coordinator,

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Speaker 1: UM is typically you you want to install the things

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Speaker 1: three times. You install them at the beginning O t

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Speaker 1: A s. You install them again, uh when you're on

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Speaker 1: the field stuff, so around your mini camp, and then

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Speaker 1: you install the third time for training camp. And so

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Speaker 1: you want to go through it multiple times to get

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Speaker 1: everything in and to get everyone comfortable with the language

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Speaker 1: and the philosophy and the nuances of the offense. Um,

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Speaker 1: everything's been virtual. So they did the one install over zoom.

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Speaker 1: I worry about what was the attention span of guys

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Speaker 1: over zoom. I mean, I don't know about you. I

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Speaker 1: mean I've been living in this virtual world. You're doing

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Speaker 1: web exits for work and everything else, and unless you're

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Speaker 1: really disciplined, it's easy to have your mind drift and

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Speaker 1: looking at your computer and your phone and doing different

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Speaker 1: things because it's hard to monitor. It's not like you're

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Speaker 1: in a meeting together. Um. And so I think, how

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Speaker 1: much do guys uh pick up? How much? How much

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Speaker 1: gets absorbed? There would be interesting to really you know,

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Speaker 1: first time installed in person is right now, and I

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Speaker 1: think you're j grew and you have to para path.

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Speaker 1: I mean you really have to decide, Okay, what what portion?

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Speaker 1: Maybe we only put eighty percent of the offense and

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Speaker 1: compared to what we do in the past, because of

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Speaker 1: the young quarterback and the kind of the pandemic situation

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Speaker 1: we find ourselves in Sony. The first year, you guys

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Speaker 1: are all came together. Well, if you had to be

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Speaker 1: in this same same type of same type of situations,

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Speaker 1: how much do the offense could you have put in? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think, I think, I mean, that's my guess. It's

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Speaker 1: a wild guess. And I look at that first year

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Speaker 1: when we were putting everything new in UM and now

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Speaker 1: was all new players, all new coaches. At least you

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Speaker 1: have some familiarity with guys that you were here last year,

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Speaker 1: so it's not quite as dire. But I mean, I

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Speaker 1: look at the multiple o t as we had, many

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Speaker 1: July six July. S let this settle in for all

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Speaker 1: you listening. That was six weeks ago. And so yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: well some of you flew home on a private jet,

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Speaker 1: didn't have the whole training. Yeah, that's you still have

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Speaker 1: some guys, some guys who work in this building now

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Speaker 1: in the building didn't show up. You remember that's a

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Speaker 1: different that's a different name of name Lockerman. He showed

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Speaker 1: up July eleven. Still, I mean so, but think about

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Speaker 1: and we had five preseason games. I mean, think how

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Speaker 1: much time we have the insult no preseason little. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I just don't think you can get it all in.

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Speaker 1: I would Okay, here's the question. There's some veterans. I

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Speaker 1: would say, do you point is a way? Is there

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Speaker 1: a way to point the install toward the early opponents

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Speaker 1: in the season, or is it installed totally separate from

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Speaker 1: that kind of thing. Do you do you crafted to

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Speaker 1: the first two or three weeks upon it? I think

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Speaker 1: that's dangerous because you have to put the concepts and

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Speaker 1: it's a philosophy like who you are you're gonna be

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Speaker 1: good at. You have to figure that out as a

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Speaker 1: coaching step, like not all players can do all things.

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Speaker 1: Like I'm of the opinion that Leondard for Nette, is

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Speaker 1: a better back out of the eye then single back,

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Speaker 1: and I think he's run better, and so that determines

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Speaker 1: like what you want to do. Well, that's interesting because

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Speaker 1: I think Gardner Mintshew is better at a shotgun. They're

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Speaker 1: underneath and so you have to figure out your philosophy

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00:59:38,040 --> 00:59:39,720
Speaker 1: guys that have been here to step up. We're not

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00:59:39,760 --> 00:59:43,080
Speaker 1: going to focus on things that are outside of you know,

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00:59:43,240 --> 00:59:45,880
Speaker 1: the building, at least the coaches and the players aren't,

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00:59:45,920 --> 00:59:48,280
Speaker 1: whereas myself and Dave and the scouts you know, will

1057
00:59:48,320 --> 00:59:51,080
Speaker 1: look at things and discuss things. You know. Our focus

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00:59:51,160 --> 00:59:53,400
Speaker 1: still needs to, you know, be on the players that

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00:59:53,480 --> 00:59:55,360
Speaker 1: are here, the coaches that are here, and getting the

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Speaker 1: guys that we have good enough, um, you know too

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00:59:59,400 --> 01:00:03,560
Speaker 1: for us to be a winning football team. Doug Marone

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01:00:03,640 --> 01:00:07,200
Speaker 1: as were the second hour of Jaguars Happy Hour, JP

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01:00:07,320 --> 01:00:11,240
Speaker 1: Shadrick Tony Baselli Pete Prisco training camp under way. The

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01:00:11,320 --> 01:00:15,760
Speaker 1: first day of hatted practices today only ninety minutes allowed

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01:00:15,840 --> 01:00:18,520
Speaker 1: by league rules and what has continued to be a

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01:00:18,640 --> 01:00:22,040
Speaker 1: strange training camp so far. The ramp up period is complete.

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Speaker 1: The guys are in pads now and then they'll expand

1068
01:00:25,320 --> 01:00:27,360
Speaker 1: that time the next few days and then have full

1069
01:00:27,680 --> 01:00:31,240
Speaker 1: practices with pads few days from now. About eleven full

1070
01:00:31,320 --> 01:00:33,960
Speaker 1: practices are on the docket and the days moving ahead.

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01:00:34,000 --> 01:00:37,360
Speaker 1: But Doug Morone there guys discussing all the changes that

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01:00:37,440 --> 01:00:40,480
Speaker 1: have happened the last week or two, especially on the

1073
01:00:40,560 --> 01:00:44,920
Speaker 1: defensive line for this Jaguars football team. The latest yesterday

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Speaker 1: Rodney Gunter on the reserve retired list within the Large

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Speaker 1: A AWARDA And if you're watching on at Jaguars or

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01:00:51,680 --> 01:00:53,800
Speaker 1: Jaguars dot com, you see the full list over the

1077
01:00:53,880 --> 01:00:57,080
Speaker 1: last two or three weeks of transactions on the d line,

1078
01:00:57,160 --> 01:01:00,800
Speaker 1: So a lot of new faces coming in. Some guys

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01:01:00,840 --> 01:01:03,040
Speaker 1: that they had counted on in free agency are not

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01:01:03,160 --> 01:01:05,560
Speaker 1: going to be available this year, including al Woods and

1081
01:01:05,840 --> 01:01:08,800
Speaker 1: at Rodney Country. So a lot of unknown and a

1082
01:01:08,880 --> 01:01:12,760
Speaker 1: lot of change now in this Jaguars defensive line, new

1083
01:01:12,880 --> 01:01:16,320
Speaker 1: offense continues to be installed, and as we've talked about

1084
01:01:16,360 --> 01:01:19,640
Speaker 1: earlier on the show today, there's only a limited amount

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01:01:19,680 --> 01:01:22,400
Speaker 1: of time to get that done before opening day. You

1086
01:01:22,440 --> 01:01:25,840
Speaker 1: don't have any dress rehearsal games, no preseason games, none

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01:01:25,880 --> 01:01:27,840
Speaker 1: of that. You have to go out and practice it

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01:01:27,920 --> 01:01:30,800
Speaker 1: and then show up Week one ready to play. So

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01:01:31,320 --> 01:01:34,880
Speaker 1: a challenge for a young football team. And as Doug

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01:01:34,960 --> 01:01:37,240
Speaker 1: Maron said, there, hey, we've got to get these guys

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01:01:37,320 --> 01:01:39,280
Speaker 1: that are here ready and then once we get a

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01:01:39,320 --> 01:01:41,360
Speaker 1: little closer, maybe down the road, if they have to

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01:01:41,440 --> 01:01:43,720
Speaker 1: make some changes and make some additions, there are ways

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Speaker 1: to do that. So there's a lot going on, Pete,

1095
01:01:46,120 --> 01:01:48,040
Speaker 1: this is a lot of a lot of balls in

1096
01:01:48,120 --> 01:01:50,080
Speaker 1: the air right now to juggle for Doug Moron and

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Speaker 1: Dave Caldwell. Yeah, it's a challenge. It was going to

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01:01:53,360 --> 01:01:57,240
Speaker 1: be a challenge the young team of coaching staff that

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01:01:57,640 --> 01:02:01,200
Speaker 1: had some changes. A coach Stick came back. Some people

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01:02:01,240 --> 01:02:03,960
Speaker 1: thought he wasn't gonna come back, and so there we're

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01:02:04,000 --> 01:02:07,640
Speaker 1: going to be challenges and now I think there's even more.

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01:02:08,480 --> 01:02:10,560
Speaker 1: They didn't you know, you don't expect guys to opt

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01:02:10,600 --> 01:02:13,720
Speaker 1: out like Al Woods and uh, you know who knew

1104
01:02:13,760 --> 01:02:16,600
Speaker 1: there was gonna be a pandemic and Rodney Gunter situation,

1105
01:02:17,160 --> 01:02:19,760
Speaker 1: so on and on it goes, and it's more of

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01:02:19,800 --> 01:02:22,320
Speaker 1: a challenge. With Doug Brown, I'll tell you we I

1107
01:02:22,360 --> 01:02:26,440
Speaker 1: had him in on my show last week and he

1108
01:02:26,640 --> 01:02:30,600
Speaker 1: seems as loose as I've ever seen him, almost like

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01:02:31,800 --> 01:02:35,440
Speaker 1: he feels free. Maybe he's free of Tom Coffin, but

1110
01:02:35,480 --> 01:02:40,439
Speaker 1: he feels free. And he seemed that way. He looks better,

1111
01:02:40,600 --> 01:02:43,560
Speaker 1: he lost a bunch of weight, he looks thin, looks healthy,

1112
01:02:43,640 --> 01:02:46,640
Speaker 1: looks seemed like he had a good approach. So we'll see.

1113
01:02:46,840 --> 01:02:48,760
Speaker 1: But it's a challenge. Let's be honest. This is a

1114
01:02:48,800 --> 01:02:55,800
Speaker 1: rebuilding year, yeah, and I think I agree with all

1115
01:02:55,800 --> 01:02:57,600
Speaker 1: the things you said. The interesting thing you bring up

1116
01:02:57,720 --> 01:03:00,760
Speaker 1: a rebuilding year that's hard to sell and get people

1117
01:03:00,800 --> 01:03:03,000
Speaker 1: excited when you can't say it's a rebuilding year after

1118
01:03:03,480 --> 01:03:06,400
Speaker 1: coming off seasons of what five and six wins in

1119
01:03:06,480 --> 01:03:10,160
Speaker 1: back to back years, And and that's the difficult, you know,

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Speaker 1: kind of task that I think David Doug have right now,

1121
01:03:13,600 --> 01:03:15,520
Speaker 1: is because the last thing anyone wants to hear is

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Speaker 1: that it's rebuilding. And you know, I think one of

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Speaker 1: the reasons that um as we were explained before the

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01:03:24,880 --> 01:03:34,840
Speaker 1: pandemic that uh, Dave and Doug worked. What's out of nowhere? Um,

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01:03:36,800 --> 01:03:41,240
Speaker 1: your sister bring you a tissue too, that'd be great tissue, PA, tissue. Um.

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01:03:41,680 --> 01:03:45,160
Speaker 1: But one of the reasons that David Doug came or

1127
01:03:45,360 --> 01:03:47,640
Speaker 1: were stayed and retained is because they gave them the

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01:03:47,680 --> 01:03:55,840
Speaker 1: best chance. This give this guy Clarington, I don't even

1129
01:03:55,880 --> 01:03:57,680
Speaker 1: know how to stop. And it's like there's no cough,

1130
01:03:57,800 --> 01:04:02,040
Speaker 1: butting nor anything in this world we live in right now. Um. Sorry,

1131
01:04:02,160 --> 01:04:07,480
Speaker 1: that's very one more please the coming three. But you

1132
01:04:07,520 --> 01:04:08,800
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. But that wasn't that one of

1133
01:04:08,840 --> 01:04:12,680
Speaker 1: the reasons because that they kept Doug and Dave because

1134
01:04:12,720 --> 01:04:14,720
Speaker 1: it gave him the best chance with the young quarterback

1135
01:04:14,800 --> 01:04:17,400
Speaker 1: young team to win this year and to compete for

1136
01:04:17,600 --> 01:04:20,280
Speaker 1: the division, to compete for the playoffs. And so I

1137
01:04:20,360 --> 01:04:23,080
Speaker 1: think Pete, a lot of people don't like when you say, well,

1138
01:04:23,160 --> 01:04:26,600
Speaker 1: this is a rebuilding year and it's difficult. Oh, I

1139
01:04:26,680 --> 01:04:28,680
Speaker 1: mean the facts of the facts. Look at the roster,

1140
01:04:29,400 --> 01:04:31,320
Speaker 1: look at the young guys are gonna be forced to

1141
01:04:31,360 --> 01:04:34,880
Speaker 1: play the quarterbacks A young guy. I just don't see

1142
01:04:34,920 --> 01:04:37,880
Speaker 1: how it's anything. But now they might be more competitive

1143
01:04:37,960 --> 01:04:41,320
Speaker 1: in games than We're gonna give him credit for, particularly

1144
01:04:41,360 --> 01:04:44,640
Speaker 1: with the quarterbacks, better than you know he was last year.

1145
01:04:45,320 --> 01:04:47,920
Speaker 1: But again, on the surface, it looks like a rebuild.

1146
01:04:49,280 --> 01:04:50,919
Speaker 1: But Pete, I mean, j P, would you not agree

1147
01:04:50,960 --> 01:04:53,479
Speaker 1: with That's kind of the sentiment coming in about keeping

1148
01:04:53,520 --> 01:04:55,560
Speaker 1: the David Doug and kind of what we were striving

1149
01:04:55,640 --> 01:04:58,680
Speaker 1: for this year. It seemed like and and and Dave

1150
01:04:59,040 --> 01:05:01,040
Speaker 1: talked about that the other to day. He had a

1151
01:05:01,080 --> 01:05:04,920
Speaker 1: meeting with the media video conference and said, when you know,

1152
01:05:05,720 --> 01:05:09,640
Speaker 1: when they were building for seventeen, they had the understanding

1153
01:05:09,760 --> 01:05:13,240
Speaker 1: that this offseason they're gonna have to make some moves

1154
01:05:13,320 --> 01:05:15,880
Speaker 1: and some changes and probably go a little younger. And

1155
01:05:16,480 --> 01:05:18,640
Speaker 1: they have acquired those draft picks a lot of those

1156
01:05:18,720 --> 01:05:20,760
Speaker 1: for this year. Twelve of them had ended up being

1157
01:05:21,360 --> 01:05:23,880
Speaker 1: so they had the idea that it was gonna be

1158
01:05:24,080 --> 01:05:26,760
Speaker 1: at some point the way they built that in seventeen,

1159
01:05:26,800 --> 01:05:29,800
Speaker 1: it would come down. Wait a second, now, so you're

1160
01:05:29,840 --> 01:05:33,840
Speaker 1: telling me in the plan, I mean, there was a

1161
01:05:33,920 --> 01:05:36,880
Speaker 1: plan they said, the way they the way they built

1162
01:05:36,920 --> 01:05:39,400
Speaker 1: that at some point you can't pay all those guys

1163
01:05:39,520 --> 01:05:43,360
Speaker 1: forever that changes. I mean, okay, that's fine. I mean

1164
01:05:43,400 --> 01:05:44,800
Speaker 1: I think we all do that. But to say it

1165
01:05:44,840 --> 01:05:46,440
Speaker 1: was part of the plan. I mean, I don't think it.

1166
01:05:46,520 --> 01:05:49,080
Speaker 1: Twenty after seventeen, everyone thought that you were gonna win

1167
01:05:49,160 --> 01:05:52,040
Speaker 1: five and six games the next two years. Where and

1168
01:05:52,080 --> 01:05:54,240
Speaker 1: I don't think anyone thought like, hey, part of our

1169
01:05:54,280 --> 01:05:56,680
Speaker 1: plans acquired draft picks by getting rid of our best

1170
01:05:56,760 --> 01:06:00,240
Speaker 1: defensive player, Jen Ramsey. But even now if they one

1171
01:06:00,320 --> 01:06:02,720
Speaker 1: ten games and then nine games and got in the

1172
01:06:02,760 --> 01:06:05,680
Speaker 1: playoffs all three years, but that's the contracts are still

1173
01:06:05,720 --> 01:06:08,760
Speaker 1: the contracts. But yeah, but that's a much different feeling

1174
01:06:09,960 --> 01:06:13,480
Speaker 1: then read. I'm just responding to pets comment that this

1175
01:06:13,680 --> 01:06:17,080
Speaker 1: is rebuilding. You don't typically say we're rebuilding after winning

1176
01:06:17,160 --> 01:06:20,480
Speaker 1: five and six games in consecutive years. That's not what

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01:06:20,640 --> 01:06:31,000
Speaker 1: you hear and want to hear. And so quickly my point,

1178
01:06:31,040 --> 01:06:33,720
Speaker 1: and I'm not disagreeing. I understand what Davi is saying

1179
01:06:33,760 --> 01:06:35,640
Speaker 1: that when you paid high free agents and you build

1180
01:06:35,640 --> 01:06:37,480
Speaker 1: the way they did for seventeen, that sooner or later,

1181
01:06:38,200 --> 01:06:40,880
Speaker 1: you know, here it comes calling your salary cap and

1182
01:06:40,920 --> 01:06:43,240
Speaker 1: you gotta, you know, make some changes. I just don't

1183
01:06:43,320 --> 01:06:47,320
Speaker 1: think part of those changes would ever envision, you know,

1184
01:06:47,520 --> 01:06:51,000
Speaker 1: not having Jan Ramsey on this roster or not having

1185
01:06:51,120 --> 01:06:54,360
Speaker 1: your fighting within gokway, you know him not being here.

1186
01:06:54,360 --> 01:06:56,800
Speaker 1: I mean these are two in Dante Fowler, who's the

1187
01:06:56,840 --> 01:06:59,200
Speaker 1: double digit sack guy. I mean, you go down the list,

1188
01:07:00,160 --> 01:07:01,680
Speaker 1: and I agree with that you couldn't keep them all.

1189
01:07:03,160 --> 01:07:04,680
Speaker 1: But to say it was part of the plan to

1190
01:07:04,720 --> 01:07:08,560
Speaker 1: acquire draft picks to be in this situation to rebuild,

1191
01:07:08,600 --> 01:07:10,400
Speaker 1: I just I mean, I have a hard time buying that.

1192
01:07:10,520 --> 01:07:15,240
Speaker 1: That's all. Well, wouldn't you rather rebuild to try and

1193
01:07:15,320 --> 01:07:19,160
Speaker 1: build something special than be seven and nine, eight and

1194
01:07:19,200 --> 01:07:21,640
Speaker 1: eight every year and that kind of like what the

1195
01:07:21,680 --> 01:07:26,240
Speaker 1: Miami Dolphins are doing now. I'll tell you what, if

1196
01:07:26,240 --> 01:07:28,479
Speaker 1: you're asking me, I'd take eight date right now, because

1197
01:07:28,480 --> 01:07:31,240
Speaker 1: who was the last time this team was eight? Nate

1198
01:07:31,400 --> 01:07:34,600
Speaker 1: isn't good. You'd rather be rebuild the whole thing the

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Speaker 1: right way and get to ten, eleven, ten, ten consistently,

1200
01:07:39,240 --> 01:07:42,160
Speaker 1: not not eight and eight and then have this you know,

1201
01:07:43,080 --> 01:07:47,880
Speaker 1: seven and nine, six and ten seasons that no for

1202
01:07:48,080 --> 01:07:51,640
Speaker 1: something special? Okay, but are you saying that then you

1203
01:07:51,720 --> 01:07:53,480
Speaker 1: should be trying to get like two wins this year

1204
01:07:53,520 --> 01:07:56,080
Speaker 1: and get the first pick overall? Well, that would be

1205
01:07:56,160 --> 01:08:02,240
Speaker 1: a bad thing. Tagging for Trevor Baby well, I guess

1206
01:08:02,320 --> 01:08:04,280
Speaker 1: my point I'm just this is a response to I

1207
01:08:04,320 --> 01:08:06,240
Speaker 1: think it's difficult to say that after winning five and

1208
01:08:06,280 --> 01:08:09,280
Speaker 1: six games that you're in a rebuilding here, because really

1209
01:08:09,320 --> 01:08:11,280
Speaker 1: what you've been, That's all I'm saying, and I'm not

1210
01:08:11,360 --> 01:08:13,120
Speaker 1: disagreeing with you eight and hate. If you're eight and

1211
01:08:13,160 --> 01:08:15,080
Speaker 1: eight over and over and over again. You never get

1212
01:08:15,120 --> 01:08:16,840
Speaker 1: the right pieces unless you hit in the draft in

1213
01:08:16,880 --> 01:08:20,479
Speaker 1: those mid rounds, I mean the middle of the each round,

1214
01:08:20,720 --> 01:08:22,560
Speaker 1: which you can do. We've seen teams do that. Not

1215
01:08:22,680 --> 01:08:25,640
Speaker 1: all teams go to the very bottom top of the

1216
01:08:25,720 --> 01:08:27,760
Speaker 1: draft and rebuild their way up. I mean you've seen

1217
01:08:27,800 --> 01:08:29,960
Speaker 1: the Ravens and a number of teams that availed to

1218
01:08:30,000 --> 01:08:32,560
Speaker 1: stay at the you know, middle to upper echelon of

1219
01:08:32,640 --> 01:08:36,560
Speaker 1: the NFL for a number of years um. And so

1220
01:08:36,760 --> 01:08:39,000
Speaker 1: that's the difficult thing to Pete. That's what I'm saying.

1221
01:08:39,040 --> 01:08:43,519
Speaker 1: And so it's they had the seasons they had, but

1222
01:08:43,680 --> 01:08:48,200
Speaker 1: they weren't expecting them. They had veterans still in place,

1223
01:08:48,760 --> 01:08:51,479
Speaker 1: and like JP said, there was some high price contracts there.

1224
01:08:52,000 --> 01:08:55,519
Speaker 1: Now you get your rid of those and you start

1225
01:08:55,640 --> 01:08:58,280
Speaker 1: building with the younger players. That's why it's more of

1226
01:08:58,320 --> 01:09:01,800
Speaker 1: a rebuild. I know, nobody wants to hear that when

1227
01:09:01,840 --> 01:09:04,680
Speaker 1: you go fight when you win five games, but two

1228
01:09:04,720 --> 01:09:07,880
Speaker 1: wouldn't be bad. That means you get Trevor Lawrence. Oh,

1229
01:09:08,000 --> 01:09:10,920
Speaker 1: and I guess two things, and we'd like to beat

1230
01:09:11,000 --> 01:09:12,680
Speaker 1: this up. It's one. I don't think anyone likes to

1231
01:09:12,760 --> 01:09:15,920
Speaker 1: hear about rebuilding after winning five and six games. And

1232
01:09:16,040 --> 01:09:18,120
Speaker 1: I just have a hard time believing this is all

1233
01:09:18,200 --> 01:09:21,439
Speaker 1: part of the plan. I mean to what JP was

1234
01:09:21,560 --> 01:09:24,040
Speaker 1: referring to earlier in conversations, like this is part of

1235
01:09:24,080 --> 01:09:25,880
Speaker 1: the plan and we're in a good position now. I

1236
01:09:25,920 --> 01:09:28,880
Speaker 1: mean like, I just have a hard time buying that

1237
01:09:29,400 --> 01:09:32,000
Speaker 1: that we're sitting here in seventeen saying like this has

1238
01:09:32,040 --> 01:09:35,760
Speaker 1: gone to so what's your name, Tony? I didn't say

1239
01:09:35,800 --> 01:09:38,200
Speaker 1: it was part of that's what you said. I said.

1240
01:09:38,280 --> 01:09:40,680
Speaker 1: They knew there would be contracts coming up and they

1241
01:09:40,680 --> 01:09:43,240
Speaker 1: would probably have to go younger this year, and that's

1242
01:09:43,280 --> 01:09:46,960
Speaker 1: what they've had to do because of the situations. Didn't

1243
01:09:47,040 --> 01:09:50,160
Speaker 1: expect that they paid Blake Bortles. They figured he'd be

1244
01:09:50,240 --> 01:09:52,800
Speaker 1: the quarterback. Come on, you pay him, you think he's

1245
01:09:52,800 --> 01:09:56,080
Speaker 1: gonna be the quarterback? There were things went wrong. If

1246
01:09:56,160 --> 01:09:57,800
Speaker 1: that was the case, then why did you ever pay?

1247
01:09:58,080 --> 01:10:00,240
Speaker 1: Then you would if that was really the case, Let's

1248
01:10:00,240 --> 01:10:01,880
Speaker 1: say that, like, you knew this is what you have

1249
01:10:02,000 --> 01:10:04,800
Speaker 1: to do, why did you pay Blake? You play Blake

1250
01:10:04,800 --> 01:10:06,719
Speaker 1: because you thought you the franchise guy. Okay, that didn't

1251
01:10:06,760 --> 01:10:08,360
Speaker 1: work out? And if you knew that was the case,

1252
01:10:08,400 --> 01:10:11,519
Speaker 1: then why did you give Nick Foles eight million dollars

1253
01:10:12,520 --> 01:10:15,240
Speaker 1: guaranteed over four years? Like That's where I just it's

1254
01:10:15,320 --> 01:10:17,720
Speaker 1: it's hard for me to say, like it's almost like, hey,

1255
01:10:17,760 --> 01:10:19,320
Speaker 1: it didn't work out the way you want to do,

1256
01:10:19,479 --> 01:10:21,280
Speaker 1: and we now we're going to start over and we're

1257
01:10:21,280 --> 01:10:23,439
Speaker 1: gonna go young because of contracts that we paid that

1258
01:10:23,920 --> 01:10:25,680
Speaker 1: you know, we're over priced and didn't work out to

1259
01:10:25,720 --> 01:10:30,280
Speaker 1: our ends. That's it right there, and that's like that's accurate.

1260
01:10:30,360 --> 01:10:32,080
Speaker 1: But to say, like, oh, we knew we'd be in this,

1261
01:10:33,160 --> 01:10:35,559
Speaker 1: then why didn't you pay these people all this money?

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Speaker 1: With my question? And I think it's hard to say

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Speaker 1: that and to say, oh, we're just going to rebuild.

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Speaker 1: Now we'll wait a second, that's what we've we like

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Speaker 1: rebuilding on what. Yeah, they thought two thousand eighteen was

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Speaker 1: an aberration that the guys started reading their press clippings.

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Speaker 1: It went bad. It didn't happen but they could regroup

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Speaker 1: a nineteen, which is why they went and got folds,

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Speaker 1: which was a major mistake, I agree with you. And

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Speaker 1: then when that kept going bad, then they decided now

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Speaker 1: it's time to do the whole thing. And that's accurate.

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Speaker 1: And really what you find out is that seventeen was

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Speaker 1: the admiration. Correct. You can't win consistently that way, playing

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Speaker 1: that way in the NFL. It's like the Titans. Do

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Speaker 1: you think the Titans are a legitimate championship team this season?

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Speaker 1: A legitimate Um? No, I don't think so, but I

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Speaker 1: mean they went to the championship game last year, just

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Speaker 1: like Jaguars did. No, but I think they're legitimate, uh

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Speaker 1: wild card playoff team. If I would have said that

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Speaker 1: about Jacksonville in two thousand eighteen, fair, but I'm saying

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Speaker 1: but if you look at it, so I guess my

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Speaker 1: I've always thought that Tanny Hill is probably a better

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Speaker 1: quarterback than Portals. Well, he's better how much he's in

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Speaker 1: front of her yards and two playoff games and they

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Speaker 1: won because they never throw it through it. They handed

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Speaker 1: off every day down and that's not sustainable. That's the point.

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Speaker 1: Just like the Jaguars that you and I agree on that.

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Speaker 1: So just um, how as you were talking about the

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Speaker 1: season and expectations everything else. I mean, every year you

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Speaker 1: do your you you know, picked the games and based

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Speaker 1: on the schedule, how many games? I haven't done it yet?

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Speaker 1: Are you haven't done it yet? No, I'm working on it,

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Speaker 1: but I haven't finished it yet. You are you close?

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Speaker 1: I'd say half they're gonna win four games at best,

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Speaker 1: and they'll be competitive in a bunch of them. I

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Speaker 1: think then they're just not good enough. And again, what

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Speaker 1: do you what do you get mince you, Tony? What

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Speaker 1: do you think he is? We don't know. I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I hope he's I mean, I hope, I hope he is.

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Speaker 1: What I've heard early in the training camp from the

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Speaker 1: reports of people there, um that he is looking good

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Speaker 1: and spinning it good and he's like taking the step

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Speaker 1: and progressing and everything else. That's what I hope he is. Like,

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Speaker 1: I don't believe it. Not that don't it's not that

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Speaker 1: I don't believe it, but I don't believe it until

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Speaker 1: we get into the regular season because so much of

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Speaker 1: that change is once you under It's so hard to

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Speaker 1: evaluate a young quarterback, you know, without being hit in

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Speaker 1: the pressure. And what's the ceiling pot from an individual

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Speaker 1: or is a team? Yeah? Like from an individual, this

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Speaker 1: is pretty good last year. Yeah, he's pretty good last year,

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Speaker 1: and I think it's ceiling his thirty and you know,

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Speaker 1: let's say fourth and ten. Yeah, that would be a

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Speaker 1: good year if that, if he has that year. Do

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Speaker 1: you draft a quarterback if you're in that position, what pick?

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Speaker 1: What pick do I have? And who's on the board? Well,

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Speaker 1: forget if you throes thirty ten Tony Deshaun Watson hasn't

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Speaker 1: thrown thirty in his career. Highest number you got. Maybe

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01:13:52,760 --> 01:13:54,920
Speaker 1: if if he goes four thousand, thirty and ten year,

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Speaker 1: passing on Trevor Lawrence if you have the first overall pick.

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Speaker 1: I'm never passing on Trevor Lawrence on fields. I actually

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Speaker 1: seen so little of him playing, so I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I haven't seen enough to be fair. Look,

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Speaker 1: I'm not passing on Trevor Lawrence. Ever, I don't care

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Speaker 1: if they won the Super Bowl and yeah that somebody

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Speaker 1: traded for that pick, you pick them, right, you have to,

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Speaker 1: he said, Once in a lifetime, quarterback like Andrew luck was,

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Speaker 1: like John Elway was, Peyton Manning once and once in

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Speaker 1: a lifetime. Let's come back. I think, do you think

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Speaker 1: he's that good? I do? Alright, He's not alone in

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Speaker 1: that Tony, that's for sure. I'm not I'm not gonna

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Speaker 1: argue it. Let's come back. We'll I get into the

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Speaker 1: offensive line as we promised. Social questions right around the

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Speaker 1: Tony BASSELLI, Pete Prisco, glad you're along with us, first

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Speaker 1: Monday show of the season. It's gonna be back with

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Speaker 1: you guys, and we'll get to social questions in just

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Speaker 1: a moment. But as promised, it is our Tony BASSELLI

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Speaker 1: look at the offensive line and that the most notable

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Speaker 1: I think battle I think right now is a left

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Speaker 1: tackle if you would you even call it a battle

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Speaker 1: Cam Robinson will Richardson, Um, what do you think, Tony?

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Speaker 1: I mean, I think it should be. I mean, as

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01:18:48,800 --> 01:18:51,280
Speaker 1: much as I love Cam Robinson, did you do anything

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Speaker 1: last year to say that you were convinced that he

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Speaker 1: is your weft tackle? He said he felt comfortable the

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01:18:58,680 --> 01:19:01,240
Speaker 1: last four to five games of the season. He really

1399
01:19:01,320 --> 01:19:04,680
Speaker 1: felt like himself again coming back not off only that

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Speaker 1: that a c l here, but remember he injured the

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01:19:06,800 --> 01:19:09,439
Speaker 1: other leg early in the season and missed the first

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01:19:09,479 --> 01:19:14,960
Speaker 1: two games. Yeah, and listen, I think he's a guy

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01:19:15,080 --> 01:19:17,960
Speaker 1: that has all kinds of talent and fat ability and toughness,

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01:19:18,000 --> 01:19:20,040
Speaker 1: and he's a nasthenst about him that I loved having

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01:19:20,120 --> 01:19:22,439
Speaker 1: him on the football field. However, we talked about it

1406
01:19:22,560 --> 01:19:25,479
Speaker 1: last Thursday night. The footwork issues that he had pre

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Speaker 1: date an the a c L and the issues. You know,

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01:19:28,360 --> 01:19:30,760
Speaker 1: you could say that early in the his second year,

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01:19:30,800 --> 01:19:32,840
Speaker 1: he was not playing great football when he got hurt.

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01:19:33,360 --> 01:19:35,439
Speaker 1: Um he struggled obviously coming back from it and then

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01:19:35,479 --> 01:19:38,000
Speaker 1: had another injury. Um. I love the toughness and the

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01:19:38,080 --> 01:19:41,120
Speaker 1: grit that he showed. Uh and so I you know,

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01:19:41,439 --> 01:19:44,000
Speaker 1: but based on all that, I was shocked last year

1414
01:19:44,000 --> 01:19:47,720
Speaker 1: they didn't give will Richardson a chance to overtake him

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Speaker 1: at left tackle, especially the way will Richardson played in

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Speaker 1: those first two games. So I think it it should

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Speaker 1: be a real competition. Um. I think they should, you know,

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01:19:56,439 --> 01:20:01,639
Speaker 1: have wide open competition. Breeds, um, you know, higher play

1419
01:20:02,160 --> 01:20:04,960
Speaker 1: in true competitors, which I think both of them are.

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Speaker 1: I think that Cam Robbins will end up winning the job.

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Speaker 1: But if I was dead coach, I wouldn't just give

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Speaker 1: it to him. Um, by no means would I do that. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: But how do you decide who's the guy from the

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01:20:18,840 --> 01:20:22,280
Speaker 1: eleven batted practices? Yeah, that's impossible. That's the flip side

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Speaker 1: I mean. So that's why I think it's gonna end

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Speaker 1: up being Cam Robinson, because I don't think there's enough

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Speaker 1: opportunities for will where to overtake them. But you give him,

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Speaker 1: you can only give him a couple of three games

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Speaker 1: to make sure he's playing better football than you make

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Speaker 1: the change. Right now, I'm evaluating, I mean the messages

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Speaker 1: and I'm like, listen, we're gonna evaluate this weekend week out.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's a competitive process. And and obviously, at

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Speaker 1: some point, if Cam plays at the level we know

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Speaker 1: he's all capable of, and we all hope he plays that,

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Speaker 1: didn't you know, he solidifies that starting left tackle position.

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Speaker 1: But until then, I give all richest in the chance

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Speaker 1: and to compete and practice and try to give him

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Speaker 1: as may looks as possible. But this is one of

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Speaker 1: the things that this pandemic shortened training camp is gonna cause,

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Speaker 1: is gonna be part of one of the effects of

1441
01:21:05,040 --> 01:21:07,400
Speaker 1: it is hard for guys who are fighting for positions

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Speaker 1: and they're not the incumbent, it's hard for them to

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Speaker 1: overtake and win that job. So so you would say

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Speaker 1: on opening day, Cam Robinson stocks no matter, no matter what. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: the interesting thing is and for an offensive line that

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Speaker 1: was highly criticized last year of not being very productive

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Speaker 1: and literally to the point where the head coach said

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Speaker 1: he couldn't play Nick Foles because he wasn't he needed

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Speaker 1: a quarterback who could run around and extend plays. If

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Speaker 1: you remember, that was part of the justification of going

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Speaker 1: to um Gardner Minshew was his ability to get out

1452
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Speaker 1: of trouble. Never what you want to hear as an

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Speaker 1: offensive line, they're like, hey, my our head coach is

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Speaker 1: going with the guy who can make people miss um.

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Speaker 1: But but that's what he said. Um. In light of that,

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Speaker 1: I think that they're gonna roll out the same exact

1457
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Speaker 1: offensive line that they had last year that for all

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Speaker 1: sixteen games. Well, the hope is Taylor plays looks better

1459
01:22:00,920 --> 01:22:02,800
Speaker 1: and he was good, but he plays much better in

1460
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Speaker 1: the second season. You hope is that you mentioned Cam

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Speaker 1: Robinson's healthy again and maybe he's picked some of his

1462
01:22:10,000 --> 01:22:13,719
Speaker 1: footwork issues. I think Linda is solid in the middle.

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Speaker 1: Norwell has his games where he looks good. Sammy looks bad,

1464
01:22:17,600 --> 01:22:21,640
Speaker 1: but he's been okay. And then the right guard inconsistency

1465
01:22:21,680 --> 01:22:25,240
Speaker 1: has been his major problem. A j Can. One game

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Speaker 1: he looks like he's a really good player. In the

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Speaker 1: next game, he looks like he's not very good. Yeah.

1468
01:22:29,600 --> 01:22:32,639
Speaker 1: I think Ben Bart, the young kid from St. John

1469
01:22:32,840 --> 01:22:36,280
Speaker 1: he played right away though I don't think I mean,

1470
01:22:36,320 --> 01:22:38,080
Speaker 1: I think ultimately that's what they like him to fight

1471
01:22:38,120 --> 01:22:40,439
Speaker 1: for that right guard position. He's a big, physical guy.

1472
01:22:41,240 --> 01:22:44,240
Speaker 1: UM played tackle and you know Division three football, So

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01:22:44,280 --> 01:22:46,160
Speaker 1: I don't think he's gonna you know, especially with no

1474
01:22:46,320 --> 01:22:49,120
Speaker 1: preseason or anything else, I don't think he'll end up

1475
01:22:49,840 --> 01:22:53,040
Speaker 1: uh in that starting lineup. So I think it's gonna

1476
01:22:53,080 --> 01:22:55,559
Speaker 1: be you know, Cam Robinson, Norwell, Linda A j Can,

1477
01:22:55,760 --> 01:22:59,599
Speaker 1: Joan Taylor sat group we have last year, Um, going

1478
01:22:59,680 --> 01:23:03,519
Speaker 1: into that first week, it'll be interesting though, and I really, um,

1479
01:23:04,720 --> 01:23:07,520
Speaker 1: I think you got to give Will Richardson an opportunity

1480
01:23:07,640 --> 01:23:11,360
Speaker 1: based on what we saw last year. Al Right, guys,

1481
01:23:11,560 --> 01:23:16,120
Speaker 1: I know, Tony, it's your favorite segment Every Monday. Social

1482
01:23:16,320 --> 01:23:20,680
Speaker 1: Media questions questions from our listening audience. We put out

1483
01:23:20,760 --> 01:23:24,280
Speaker 1: the ask early in the day. Here's what we received.

1484
01:23:24,439 --> 01:23:30,080
Speaker 1: Let's start. I'm a man of the people. No you're not. Yeah.

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01:23:31,280 --> 01:23:35,160
Speaker 1: Question one from at Marcus Parsley. Will the Jags rotate

1486
01:23:35,240 --> 01:23:37,840
Speaker 1: their rookie and Avery Jones at nose tackle on early

1487
01:23:37,920 --> 01:23:40,519
Speaker 1: downs or will we see a big guy signing to

1488
01:23:40,640 --> 01:23:45,519
Speaker 1: reduce the rookies snap count? Tony are gonna play. I mean,

1489
01:23:45,600 --> 01:23:48,320
Speaker 1: I mean, if anyone who thinks that just because he

1490
01:23:48,520 --> 01:23:51,320
Speaker 1: was a you know, what was your fourth round draft

1491
01:23:51,400 --> 01:23:54,479
Speaker 1: pick um at Ohio State, that he's going to be

1492
01:23:54,600 --> 01:23:57,519
Speaker 1: the guy, I mean Devon Hamilton's, I mean Avery Jones

1493
01:23:57,520 --> 01:24:00,280
Speaker 1: will be your starter. I think Devon Hamilton's come in

1494
01:24:00,360 --> 01:24:03,320
Speaker 1: as a rotational player and maybe he wins the job.

1495
01:24:03,680 --> 01:24:05,559
Speaker 1: But I said it earlier. I think you're starting four

1496
01:24:05,600 --> 01:24:08,360
Speaker 1: down linemen or Josh Allen, Abey Jones, Pamon Bryant and

1497
01:24:08,439 --> 01:24:10,519
Speaker 1: Yannike and Gockway. I don't think there is anyone to

1498
01:24:10,560 --> 01:24:13,400
Speaker 1: go get out there that he's gonna come in and

1499
01:24:13,479 --> 01:24:16,800
Speaker 1: help you. Uh the only creative thing that I heard

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01:24:16,920 --> 01:24:19,320
Speaker 1: that could be a possibility. Can you trade Unique and

1501
01:24:19,360 --> 01:24:23,960
Speaker 1: Gockway because you have uh cha Chase on Um to

1502
01:24:24,000 --> 01:24:25,640
Speaker 1: step up in there because you trade him for a

1503
01:24:25,720 --> 01:24:30,000
Speaker 1: big body interior defensive linement. Well, there are guys still

1504
01:24:30,040 --> 01:24:37,240
Speaker 1: out there. Isn't snacks. No, Marcel Daris is still out there. Yeah,

1505
01:24:37,280 --> 01:24:42,439
Speaker 1: but I mean funny, and I think I think he's

1506
01:24:42,479 --> 01:24:46,080
Speaker 1: pretty much done the since I got I've heard that too. Yeah,

1507
01:24:46,080 --> 01:24:50,559
Speaker 1: I think Marcel has done a lot of money his career. Marcell,

1508
01:24:51,120 --> 01:24:56,240
Speaker 1: he absolutely has, absolutely has our next question from at

1509
01:24:56,360 --> 01:24:58,200
Speaker 1: Newly Bill, This is kind of what we're talking about

1510
01:24:58,240 --> 01:24:59,960
Speaker 1: a moment ago in the offensive. Why do you think

1511
01:25:00,080 --> 01:25:01,600
Speaker 1: the old line will step up this year and for

1512
01:25:01,720 --> 01:25:05,680
Speaker 1: form to their potential? And can Ben Bart enter the

1513
01:25:05,800 --> 01:25:08,679
Speaker 1: starting lineup? Tony? I don't think Ben bars will start

1514
01:25:08,720 --> 01:25:11,280
Speaker 1: to be in the starting lineup unless there's an injury

1515
01:25:11,479 --> 01:25:13,639
Speaker 1: early in the season. I think he has a chance

1516
01:25:13,720 --> 01:25:17,360
Speaker 1: maybe throughout the season UM to have. They'll definitely get

1517
01:25:17,439 --> 01:25:19,280
Speaker 1: him in there and see what he can do. I

1518
01:25:19,360 --> 01:25:21,720
Speaker 1: think it's the same five guys. I hope that they're

1519
01:25:21,760 --> 01:25:23,920
Speaker 1: much better and I think literally I'm gonna put a

1520
01:25:23,960 --> 01:25:26,000
Speaker 1: lot of it on Camber Robinson. I think Cam Robinson

1521
01:25:26,160 --> 01:25:28,360
Speaker 1: is a guy that just needs to continue to play

1522
01:25:28,439 --> 01:25:31,200
Speaker 1: up to his potential what they draft about Alabama to do,

1523
01:25:31,280 --> 01:25:33,640
Speaker 1: and that's to be a franchise left back. He's been

1524
01:25:33,640 --> 01:25:36,200
Speaker 1: a little tune and consistent. Um, he's a good powerful

1525
01:25:36,280 --> 01:25:38,479
Speaker 1: run blocker and his footwork in the past game, which

1526
01:25:38,560 --> 01:25:40,439
Speaker 1: we've talked about, Jeff and I've talked about beat and

1527
01:25:40,439 --> 01:25:42,599
Speaker 1: I've talked about We've gone through it on the film. Um,

1528
01:25:42,680 --> 01:25:44,680
Speaker 1: he has some real technique flaws that he has to

1529
01:25:44,760 --> 01:25:46,519
Speaker 1: clean up. If he can do that. I think he's

1530
01:25:46,520 --> 01:25:48,240
Speaker 1: an outstanding player. And it's a big year for Cam

1531
01:25:48,360 --> 01:25:50,880
Speaker 1: Robinson because if he plays well, I mean he's looking

1532
01:25:50,920 --> 01:25:53,840
Speaker 1: at making seventeen to nineteen million dollars next year in

1533
01:25:53,880 --> 01:25:55,479
Speaker 1: the open market if he has a really good year

1534
01:25:55,479 --> 01:25:56,920
Speaker 1: at left back one. And that's what those guys are

1535
01:25:56,920 --> 01:26:04,800
Speaker 1: getting paid. Now, Tony, who's the swing Tackle'll be Will Richardson? Yep, uh,

1536
01:26:05,400 --> 01:26:10,639
Speaker 1: you'll keep Ben Barts. That's two. Shad Lee maybe. Where

1537
01:26:11,200 --> 01:26:13,800
Speaker 1: who's the ninth lineman or the tenth lineman. Where are

1538
01:26:13,800 --> 01:26:16,479
Speaker 1: these guys coming from? I mean who knows. I mean

1539
01:26:16,680 --> 01:26:18,639
Speaker 1: you're gonna have a lot of guys on practice squad

1540
01:26:18,720 --> 01:26:20,160
Speaker 1: as well. I mean it'll be interesting, and I think

1541
01:26:20,160 --> 01:26:22,400
Speaker 1: they're gonna have flexibility bringing guys up and down because

1542
01:26:22,439 --> 01:26:25,479
Speaker 1: of COVID nineteen. So um, it's I don't think you're

1543
01:26:25,520 --> 01:26:27,960
Speaker 1: looking at just nine eight nine. I mean you might

1544
01:26:28,000 --> 01:26:30,840
Speaker 1: be looking at fourteen with the extra practice squad guys

1545
01:26:30,840 --> 01:26:33,720
Speaker 1: and you're keeping Before we move on from that, we

1546
01:26:33,760 --> 01:26:35,840
Speaker 1: were talking about tight ends. One of the problems with

1547
01:26:35,880 --> 01:26:38,920
Speaker 1: the run game last year is they couldn't block. Yeah,

1548
01:26:38,920 --> 01:26:41,120
Speaker 1: well yeah, right, And so when you look at it,

1549
01:26:41,200 --> 01:26:44,439
Speaker 1: and this is so before I before I get there

1550
01:26:44,439 --> 01:26:46,720
Speaker 1: peak and I wanted to say something again that I

1551
01:26:46,840 --> 01:26:50,120
Speaker 1: just said it for the first time. Um, but it's shocked.

1552
01:26:50,160 --> 01:26:53,240
Speaker 1: I mean, Cam Robinson, if he had some good year,

1553
01:26:53,280 --> 01:26:58,680
Speaker 1: could make seventeen to nineteen billion dollars. He looks like

1554
01:26:58,800 --> 01:27:02,840
Speaker 1: you and your prime. Then I'm talking about the kid

1555
01:27:03,479 --> 01:27:06,559
Speaker 1: Houston's getting Larry Thompson was getting twenty two a year,

1556
01:27:06,960 --> 01:27:13,759
Speaker 1: because I'm not saying he is, you know, but like, okay,

1557
01:27:14,040 --> 01:27:16,000
Speaker 1: if he I just said, if he comes out and

1558
01:27:16,080 --> 01:27:18,840
Speaker 1: has a really good year as a left tackle, Okay,

1559
01:27:18,880 --> 01:27:23,200
Speaker 1: would you agree he's making fifteen minimum? Yes, I mean

1560
01:27:23,320 --> 01:27:26,640
Speaker 1: Eric Flower has got ten a year. He couldn't block you.

1561
01:27:29,200 --> 01:27:33,840
Speaker 1: I mean he's getting fifteen, sixteen, seventeen. It's a big

1562
01:27:34,040 --> 01:27:36,400
Speaker 1: year for Cam Robinson. So I just had to say

1563
01:27:36,479 --> 01:27:38,479
Speaker 1: that again because I said it once and I was like, wow,

1564
01:27:39,320 --> 01:27:41,679
Speaker 1: there's a lot riding on this year, um for Cam,

1565
01:27:41,760 --> 01:27:43,719
Speaker 1: and I wish him the best. I hope he gets paid.

1566
01:27:43,920 --> 01:27:45,800
Speaker 1: Tight End is still a huge concern for me. But

1567
01:27:45,880 --> 01:27:47,840
Speaker 1: they could not run the ball because of tight end issues.

1568
01:27:47,960 --> 01:27:50,560
Speaker 1: Josh Albert was never a blocker. He's gone. James of

1569
01:27:50,600 --> 01:27:54,080
Speaker 1: Shaughnessy coming off a knee injury. I don't think is

1570
01:27:54,120 --> 01:27:57,000
Speaker 1: he out there yet even practicing JP. But you know,

1571
01:27:57,080 --> 01:27:58,640
Speaker 1: we know what you know, coming back from an a

1572
01:27:58,720 --> 01:28:01,200
Speaker 1: c L means it takes time. Uh. You have Tyler

1573
01:28:01,240 --> 01:28:05,760
Speaker 1: Eiffert not never been known as a dominant blocker in

1574
01:28:05,880 --> 01:28:09,400
Speaker 1: this league even when healthy. UM, and then you have

1575
01:28:09,560 --> 01:28:15,759
Speaker 1: to ty Tyler Davis. This is your UM and Charles Jones.

1576
01:28:16,200 --> 01:28:18,600
Speaker 1: I'm looking at the depth chart right now. You have

1577
01:28:18,720 --> 01:28:20,760
Speaker 1: Charles Jones and who else do you have about there

1578
01:28:20,800 --> 01:28:25,080
Speaker 1: that could even draft pick from Georgia Tech played most

1579
01:28:25,120 --> 01:28:29,160
Speaker 1: of his time at YU Kon and UM. Yeah, O'Shaughnessy

1580
01:28:29,400 --> 01:28:31,320
Speaker 1: was off to the side today, but he's on and

1581
01:28:31,439 --> 01:28:37,040
Speaker 1: off depending on the day. They don't have one. I

1582
01:28:37,080 --> 01:28:41,080
Speaker 1: mean Charles Jones would probably the one, is the one blocker,

1583
01:28:41,160 --> 01:28:43,960
Speaker 1: but again he's an undrafted second year player that barely

1584
01:28:44,040 --> 01:28:47,320
Speaker 1: played it all last year. Like again, you look at it,

1585
01:28:47,960 --> 01:28:49,760
Speaker 1: um and not that there was a lot of things.

1586
01:28:49,800 --> 01:28:51,439
Speaker 1: I mean, I guess you could have gotten into the

1587
01:28:51,600 --> 01:28:57,200
Speaker 1: Austin Hooper Uh. Uh, you know, sweep steaks and overpaid

1588
01:28:57,320 --> 01:28:59,839
Speaker 1: for a free agent tight end. He's a big physical

1589
01:29:00,240 --> 01:29:02,680
Speaker 1: that you know maybe would have helped you out there. Um,

1590
01:29:03,800 --> 01:29:06,360
Speaker 1: you know there was all the complaints about uh uh

1591
01:29:06,760 --> 01:29:10,080
Speaker 1: David and Jacko from Cleveland. Maybe he was looking to lead,

1592
01:29:10,200 --> 01:29:13,240
Speaker 1: but he's more a possession guy. Uh. But my point

1593
01:29:13,360 --> 01:29:16,080
Speaker 1: is they haven't solved it. I mean they have if

1594
01:29:16,120 --> 01:29:18,280
Speaker 1: you look at this, here's an amazing thing. They let

1595
01:29:18,360 --> 01:29:22,280
Speaker 1: go of Marcedes Louis after the seventeen season. And Marcedes

1596
01:29:22,320 --> 01:29:25,719
Speaker 1: Lewis was never gonna scare you as a great receiver.

1597
01:29:26,160 --> 01:29:29,040
Speaker 1: It was good red zone player and an outstanding blocker.

1598
01:29:29,439 --> 01:29:31,400
Speaker 1: But I'm not mistaken. He's still playing for the Green

1599
01:29:31,479 --> 01:29:34,280
Speaker 1: Bay Packers. He's still in the upper echelot of blocker

1600
01:29:34,600 --> 01:29:37,240
Speaker 1: tight ends in the NFL. And we let him go

1601
01:29:38,040 --> 01:29:40,640
Speaker 1: from a team that wants to run the ball and

1602
01:29:40,760 --> 01:29:44,720
Speaker 1: we have yet to replace him on this team. Yeah,

1603
01:29:44,800 --> 01:29:48,280
Speaker 1: that's one of their mistakes. Chris. You've got to be

1604
01:29:48,320 --> 01:29:51,280
Speaker 1: able to block the edge, and that's been a major problem. Well,

1605
01:29:51,320 --> 01:29:53,720
Speaker 1: and and you're talking about a low price position. I mean,

1606
01:29:53,880 --> 01:29:56,360
Speaker 1: I don't know what he's making a Green Bay, but

1607
01:29:56,439 --> 01:29:59,360
Speaker 1: a couple of million dollars in today's NFL, I mean

1608
01:29:59,439 --> 01:30:01,960
Speaker 1: the general public, it's a ton of money. Good, a

1609
01:30:02,080 --> 01:30:04,000
Speaker 1: ton of money for the three of us on this show.

1610
01:30:04,120 --> 01:30:06,479
Speaker 1: We love two million dollars to do the show, Um,

1611
01:30:06,520 --> 01:30:09,400
Speaker 1: if anyone's listening. Um, But in the NFL, you know

1612
01:30:09,520 --> 01:30:11,439
Speaker 1: grand scheme of things, it's not a lot of money.

1613
01:30:11,479 --> 01:30:14,519
Speaker 1: And I it's for a team that wants to run

1614
01:30:14,600 --> 01:30:19,160
Speaker 1: the ball, Um, it is concerning. And for a team

1615
01:30:19,200 --> 01:30:22,479
Speaker 1: that wants to throw the ball, it's concerning because again,

1616
01:30:23,160 --> 01:30:25,880
Speaker 1: where is the where is the threat at the tight

1617
01:30:26,000 --> 01:30:28,759
Speaker 1: end position in the passing game? Like even Tyler Eifer,

1618
01:30:28,800 --> 01:30:31,439
Speaker 1: who is healthy for the first time and what two

1619
01:30:31,520 --> 01:30:33,880
Speaker 1: or three years last year pete Um, you still think

1620
01:30:33,920 --> 01:30:37,280
Speaker 1: he only had forty five catches. But he's when he's

1621
01:30:37,360 --> 01:30:41,320
Speaker 1: really truly healthy, he's a threat. He's a threat that

1622
01:30:41,439 --> 01:30:44,320
Speaker 1: but he's not gonna be a great blocker like you mentioned.

1623
01:30:45,439 --> 01:30:49,040
Speaker 1: One final social question from at Kempy under School, Ryan,

1624
01:30:49,160 --> 01:30:51,040
Speaker 1: and this is about the tight end. We talked about

1625
01:30:51,120 --> 01:30:55,400
Speaker 1: this earlier. It's a little aggressive, but is John Oliver.

1626
01:30:56,920 --> 01:30:59,040
Speaker 1: This is ridiculous. This is embarrassing to me. I don't

1627
01:30:59,080 --> 01:31:01,160
Speaker 1: think it's fair to the key it. Um. It's not

1628
01:31:01,280 --> 01:31:03,640
Speaker 1: like we don't let's not put stuff like up on

1629
01:31:03,960 --> 01:31:06,000
Speaker 1: the screen like this, because I don't like doing that.

1630
01:31:06,120 --> 01:31:09,720
Speaker 1: The young guys, well, we talked about it earlier. About Yeah.

1631
01:31:09,760 --> 01:31:12,800
Speaker 1: I mean it's just could jinks. You don't know. I

1632
01:31:12,840 --> 01:31:14,760
Speaker 1: don't know if it's anything. And when a guy has

1633
01:31:14,840 --> 01:31:17,400
Speaker 1: injuries the first two years tony guys start answering the question.

1634
01:31:17,880 --> 01:31:19,800
Speaker 1: That's fine, but made him glass. I mean that's taking

1635
01:31:19,840 --> 01:31:22,600
Speaker 1: a shot at him, and I think it's uncalled. You

1636
01:31:22,640 --> 01:31:24,080
Speaker 1: don't like that. I know you don't like that. So

1637
01:31:24,120 --> 01:31:25,800
Speaker 1: on the other side, we'll do we should do something

1638
01:31:25,840 --> 01:31:29,840
Speaker 1: that you really like. We should cut the team. First

1639
01:31:29,880 --> 01:31:32,080
Speaker 1: of all, we said this and you walked away, Pete

1640
01:31:32,160 --> 01:31:35,920
Speaker 1: or you weren't listening because your headset is the worst antiquated,

1641
01:31:36,000 --> 01:31:38,760
Speaker 1: the same thing I've ever seen. I don't know what

1642
01:31:38,800 --> 01:31:42,320
Speaker 1: you're talking about. And uh is that there's only eighty

1643
01:31:42,360 --> 01:31:44,320
Speaker 1: guys in camp. You're gonna keep fifty five on the

1644
01:31:44,360 --> 01:31:48,519
Speaker 1: active roster and sixteen on practice squad. You're cutting nine guys.

1645
01:31:49,560 --> 01:31:54,640
Speaker 1: But let's do it. Well, come back, we might be

1646
01:31:54,760 --> 01:31:57,479
Speaker 1: cutting the roster. When we return, we will go around

1647
01:31:57,479 --> 01:32:01,280
Speaker 1: the a FC South and touch on all the divisional opponents.

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Speaker 1: of just a real tough and like real like sensitive situation,

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Speaker 1: especially when you know we're all coming together, hasn't been

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Speaker 1: around each other for quite some time, and um, we

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Speaker 1: get tested daily. So it's mainly just staying safe and

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Speaker 1: like mask up at all times. I mean, I don't

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Speaker 1: have to wear my mask right now, but I just

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01:35:47,920 --> 01:35:51,479
Speaker 1: know wearing it. This promotes people to like make sure

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Speaker 1: that they have theirs one at all times because it's

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01:35:53,960 --> 01:35:57,280
Speaker 1: this key it's not really about you personally wearing the mask.

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01:35:57,360 --> 01:36:03,080
Speaker 1: It's about like helping others out around you. Well, he

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01:36:03,240 --> 01:36:05,320
Speaker 1: might not be able to tell with the mask on,

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01:36:05,680 --> 01:36:09,599
Speaker 1: but that was Jared Wilson, Jaguars Safety and Jaguars Happy

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Speaker 1: our roles along j P. Shadrick, Tony Buselli, Pete Prisco

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01:36:12,800 --> 01:36:16,680
Speaker 1: our first Monday show of many ahead here in the

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Speaker 1: INNFL season. You know, Yeah, that's it was. He was

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01:36:22,280 --> 01:36:24,360
Speaker 1: wearing that under his helmet the other day, Pete. It's

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01:36:24,400 --> 01:36:26,080
Speaker 1: not just in the building for him. He was actually

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01:36:26,160 --> 01:36:28,800
Speaker 1: trying that type of mask out, a normal mask like

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01:36:28,920 --> 01:36:31,240
Speaker 1: you and I would wear walking around into a restaurant

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01:36:31,320 --> 01:36:34,600
Speaker 1: or whatever under the helmet, just to see how it

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01:36:34,720 --> 01:36:36,920
Speaker 1: works out. This is the time where guys are are

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01:36:36,960 --> 01:36:40,000
Speaker 1: trying different things, whether it's the the full face shield

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01:36:40,080 --> 01:36:42,320
Speaker 1: with advisor above there over the eyes and then the

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Speaker 1: mouth and nose shield below that and Oakley has created,

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01:36:46,320 --> 01:36:49,200
Speaker 1: or a mask underneath. The first few days and helmets

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01:36:49,560 --> 01:36:52,680
Speaker 1: are a good time to try those different things out. Yeah,

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01:36:52,680 --> 01:36:54,639
Speaker 1: I don't know how you can play with that pulled

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01:36:54,680 --> 01:36:56,839
Speaker 1: up over your nose and mouth. I would have problems

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01:36:56,840 --> 01:37:01,320
Speaker 1: with that. And here's the thing, and I don't know

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01:37:01,400 --> 01:37:03,880
Speaker 1: what kind of mask that is. But if I mean,

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01:37:03,920 --> 01:37:07,840
Speaker 1: there was a study that just came out, you know

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01:37:07,960 --> 01:37:11,840
Speaker 1: that the gators and bandanna bandanas, and that looked like

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01:37:11,880 --> 01:37:14,120
Speaker 1: a gator to me. But I don't want to speak

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01:37:14,160 --> 01:37:16,519
Speaker 1: to what kind of materials may it of, but that

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01:37:16,720 --> 01:37:21,320
Speaker 1: it's actually creates a higher rate, or it's more dangerous,

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01:37:21,400 --> 01:37:23,840
Speaker 1: or it's worse to wear a gator or a bandana

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01:37:24,439 --> 01:37:27,439
Speaker 1: as a mask because of what it does through the droplets.

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01:37:27,479 --> 01:37:29,439
Speaker 1: It actually makes them a finer air assault and they

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01:37:29,520 --> 01:37:31,320
Speaker 1: hang in the air longer than if you wore no

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01:37:31,520 --> 01:37:34,439
Speaker 1: mask at all. And so I mean, this came from Duke.

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01:37:34,560 --> 01:37:36,760
Speaker 1: This is not you know, this is not the Tony

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01:37:36,800 --> 01:37:39,320
Speaker 1: Boselli School of medicine. This is actually Duke, which is

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01:37:40,320 --> 01:37:42,519
Speaker 1: I didn't know we had two doctors on the show

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01:37:42,560 --> 01:37:47,080
Speaker 1: all of a sudden. This is I believe it was

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01:37:47,080 --> 01:37:49,120
Speaker 1: in the Wall Street Journal and the New York Times.

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01:37:49,520 --> 01:37:54,200
Speaker 1: Duke University, very obviously well respected. What it tells me

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01:37:54,280 --> 01:37:56,760
Speaker 1: a mask is not a mask, and so what you

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01:37:56,920 --> 01:37:59,600
Speaker 1: wear matters. And what they're telling what they're saying is

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01:37:59,640 --> 01:38:01,760
Speaker 1: a gay or in a bandana, and that looks like

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01:38:01,800 --> 01:38:03,519
Speaker 1: a gator to me. Again, maybe it's a different kind

1750
01:38:03,520 --> 01:38:05,720
Speaker 1: of material because the guy's in the NFL, you know,

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01:38:05,880 --> 01:38:10,040
Speaker 1: different resources or whatever. Um, But you know, just to

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01:38:10,120 --> 01:38:12,280
Speaker 1: wear it because it's you feel like it's like the

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01:38:12,439 --> 01:38:14,439
Speaker 1: right thing to do from like make sure we were

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01:38:14,520 --> 01:38:16,680
Speaker 1: in the right kind of mask. I'm with Pete as

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01:38:16,680 --> 01:38:19,240
Speaker 1: if I was a player number one year outside, UM,

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01:38:19,320 --> 01:38:21,040
Speaker 1: the risk of transmission if you look at all the

1757
01:38:21,640 --> 01:38:24,280
Speaker 1: experts on any side of the aisle and any anything else,

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01:38:24,720 --> 01:38:28,320
Speaker 1: if you're outside, you know, the ready to transmission is

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01:38:28,400 --> 01:38:33,680
Speaker 1: much much lower. UM. And I would not wear anything now.

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01:38:33,840 --> 01:38:35,240
Speaker 1: If I was told I had to wear one of

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01:38:35,280 --> 01:38:37,320
Speaker 1: those face shields, I obviously would. I'm not going to

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01:38:37,400 --> 01:38:39,720
Speaker 1: not play, But if it's up to me, I'm not

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01:38:39,760 --> 01:38:43,160
Speaker 1: gonna wear anything because of the heat. UM. Nowhere I'm

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Speaker 1: wearing a gator uh or anything else. If I don't

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Speaker 1: have to, That'd be my personal choice. Unless unless I

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Speaker 1: was told by the NFL and the p A that hey, listen,

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Speaker 1: we want all the players to wear these oakleff field

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01:38:54,360 --> 01:38:57,800
Speaker 1: match field or whatever, then obviously you got to do it. Now.

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Speaker 1: I haven't been to anybody's facility, but talking to a

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01:39:01,800 --> 01:39:04,519
Speaker 1: lot of guys around the league, owners have spent a

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01:39:04,720 --> 01:39:10,040
Speaker 1: lot of money to try and make their facilities safe

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01:39:10,120 --> 01:39:13,000
Speaker 1: for the football players. And JP, have you been down

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01:39:13,040 --> 01:39:15,519
Speaker 1: to the Jaguars facility. I have not been in the

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01:39:15,600 --> 01:39:21,040
Speaker 1: buildings since you haven't either, right, No, no, But like

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01:39:22,000 --> 01:39:25,680
Speaker 1: they put up all different types of uh you know,

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01:39:26,000 --> 01:39:32,600
Speaker 1: guard guard rails and uh everything, plastic weight room in

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01:39:32,680 --> 01:39:34,760
Speaker 1: the weight rooms which haven't been big enough. They made

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01:39:34,840 --> 01:39:37,559
Speaker 1: them outside for him. I mean, they've done a part

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01:39:38,320 --> 01:39:40,760
Speaker 1: plexiglass everywhere. They've done a great job, and it's an

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01:39:40,840 --> 01:39:43,880
Speaker 1: expensive thing and those tests costs a lot of money.

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01:39:44,040 --> 01:39:48,080
Speaker 1: So let's just hope that some knucklehead on some team

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01:39:48,880 --> 01:39:53,000
Speaker 1: that's like player number seventy seven doesn't decide that he's

1783
01:39:53,040 --> 01:39:55,920
Speaker 1: going to go out to the bar and bask in

1784
01:39:56,080 --> 01:40:00,360
Speaker 1: his short shelf life as an NFL player. And back

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01:40:00,400 --> 01:40:04,360
Speaker 1: in fact, everybody or sneak a female friend into the

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01:40:04,439 --> 01:40:09,160
Speaker 1: facility addressed as a player. That was amazing. What if

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01:40:09,200 --> 01:40:11,960
Speaker 1: the star had done that when they have caught him? No, No,

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01:40:13,560 --> 01:40:17,200
Speaker 1: that's that's the greatness of coaches. Though we're consistent. We

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01:40:17,320 --> 01:40:21,280
Speaker 1: treat everybody the same. No you don't. Yeah, so you're

1790
01:40:21,280 --> 01:40:24,760
Speaker 1: telling me that if Russell Wilson got caught stinking his

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01:40:24,840 --> 01:40:28,280
Speaker 1: wife into the facility dressed as a player that Pete's

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01:40:28,280 --> 01:40:33,639
Speaker 1: gonna cut her their eyes and it would not even

1793
01:40:33,680 --> 01:40:36,000
Speaker 1: have been reported, like no one would ever have found

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01:40:36,040 --> 01:40:40,599
Speaker 1: out about it have been buried. Um. But those guys though,

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01:40:40,800 --> 01:40:43,560
Speaker 1: to those young players at the but that's where you

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01:40:43,640 --> 01:40:45,559
Speaker 1: need the veteran leaders to step up and say, guys, listen,

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01:40:45,560 --> 01:40:47,280
Speaker 1: we gotta take the serious because it's affecting all of

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01:40:47,360 --> 01:40:49,599
Speaker 1: our pay in this league and everything else. So yeah,

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01:40:49,640 --> 01:40:51,720
Speaker 1: you can't be stupid. And I take my hat off

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01:40:51,760 --> 01:40:54,640
Speaker 1: to both the PA and the NFL owners. Um, I

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01:40:54,680 --> 01:40:57,720
Speaker 1: think they have them this really well, not easy, big

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01:40:57,840 --> 01:41:01,479
Speaker 1: economic issues in front of you. Financial ramifications based on

1803
01:41:01,560 --> 01:41:05,320
Speaker 1: what happens. Um a lot of risk out there economically

1804
01:41:05,400 --> 01:41:08,639
Speaker 1: and health wise. And if you watch the Major League

1805
01:41:08,680 --> 01:41:12,760
Speaker 1: Baseball like just fall all over themselves and not be

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01:41:12,840 --> 01:41:16,000
Speaker 1: able to figure it out, and really around a sport

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01:41:16,040 --> 01:41:18,960
Speaker 1: that probably it's easier to manage lest players, the dial

1808
01:41:18,960 --> 01:41:21,160
Speaker 1: of the game and everything else. And they literally couldn't

1809
01:41:21,160 --> 01:41:24,880
Speaker 1: figure out because the economics reasons. It was embarrassing and

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01:41:24,960 --> 01:41:27,040
Speaker 1: for me at least I thought it was didn't look good.

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01:41:27,400 --> 01:41:30,600
Speaker 1: And here comes the NFL, the most complex sport to

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Speaker 1: play during the pandemic. The most players on the team

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01:41:34,520 --> 01:41:37,720
Speaker 1: close quarters. Impossible to have social distancing when you're on

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Speaker 1: the field. And I take my hat off to the

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01:41:40,800 --> 01:41:44,200
Speaker 1: Players Association and Menephoners because they got it done. And

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01:41:44,280 --> 01:41:47,000
Speaker 1: for the most part it was pretty dang smooth. Obviously

1817
01:41:47,080 --> 01:41:49,280
Speaker 1: intense moments back and forth, using the media where they

1818
01:41:49,320 --> 01:41:53,040
Speaker 1: needed to to get their message across normal negotiations, but

1819
01:41:53,160 --> 01:41:55,080
Speaker 1: never a risk of not playing, never a risk and

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01:41:55,160 --> 01:41:58,000
Speaker 1: not starting camp on time. And the owners did a

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01:41:58,240 --> 01:42:01,599
Speaker 1: very good job of using making sure. Like to your point, Pete,

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01:42:01,640 --> 01:42:04,560
Speaker 1: I've heard it across the league that the owners invested

1823
01:42:04,920 --> 01:42:09,000
Speaker 1: big dollars to make sure players were as safe as possible. Yeah,

1824
01:42:09,040 --> 01:42:12,600
Speaker 1: but you know, here's the difference with baseball. Baseball's traveling.

1825
01:42:13,760 --> 01:42:16,760
Speaker 1: You know how guys are, and you know nobody wants

1826
01:42:18,800 --> 01:42:23,439
Speaker 1: That's you're missing my point, no travel whatever. I'm talking

1827
01:42:23,479 --> 01:42:25,320
Speaker 1: about the front end. They couldn't figure it out, the

1828
01:42:25,400 --> 01:42:27,519
Speaker 1: economics of it. You know, I agree with you there.

1829
01:42:27,680 --> 01:42:30,639
Speaker 1: They wasted about a month trying to haggle with each

1830
01:42:30,680 --> 01:42:33,720
Speaker 1: other and they could have played games. But you're talking

1831
01:42:33,720 --> 01:42:36,360
Speaker 1: about the test. But the testing also is interesting because

1832
01:42:36,360 --> 01:42:38,360
Speaker 1: remember the NFL I thought that we're gonna be a

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01:42:38,400 --> 01:42:40,879
Speaker 1: boatload of guys when they came back that tested positive,

1834
01:42:41,000 --> 01:42:43,040
Speaker 1: and there wasn't And a majority of those guys have

1835
01:42:43,120 --> 01:42:46,120
Speaker 1: already come back baseball. The Marlins go out on the

1836
01:42:46,280 --> 01:42:50,439
Speaker 1: road and they infect fifteen guys. So yeah, I think

1837
01:42:50,520 --> 01:42:53,000
Speaker 1: I think that's the biggest difference. They're still in first place.

1838
01:42:54,560 --> 01:42:56,400
Speaker 1: You gotta be first of all, you gotta be smart too.

1839
01:42:56,520 --> 01:42:58,040
Speaker 1: You can't go out to the clubs and go out

1840
01:42:58,080 --> 01:43:00,240
Speaker 1: and party in and bars and everything else. If you're

1841
01:43:00,240 --> 01:43:01,720
Speaker 1: a young guy, and I get it as a young guy,

1842
01:43:01,760 --> 01:43:04,080
Speaker 1: that's what you like to do. But right now in

1843
01:43:04,160 --> 01:43:05,640
Speaker 1: this world, if you want to be a professional and

1844
01:43:05,680 --> 01:43:07,439
Speaker 1: you want to play sports, you just can't do it.

1845
01:43:07,920 --> 01:43:09,360
Speaker 1: I mean, listen that she had an article on the

1846
01:43:09,400 --> 01:43:11,360
Speaker 1: break in the Wall Street Journal about the University of

1847
01:43:11,360 --> 01:43:16,240
Speaker 1: North Carolina just canceled all fall classes on on campus

1848
01:43:16,320 --> 01:43:19,479
Speaker 1: classes a C C team, You talk about ramifications. I

1849
01:43:19,520 --> 01:43:21,439
Speaker 1: wonder if they're gonna even play football now, because if

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01:43:21,439 --> 01:43:23,640
Speaker 1: they're gonna allow the regular students on campus, are they

1851
01:43:23,680 --> 01:43:26,240
Speaker 1: gonna have football players on camps? And the reason was

1852
01:43:26,360 --> 01:43:28,840
Speaker 1: is because after ten days I think it was being

1853
01:43:28,880 --> 01:43:32,040
Speaker 1: back on campus, they're like almost two hundred or just

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01:43:32,120 --> 01:43:36,320
Speaker 1: under two hundred positive cases a thirty percent positive case

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01:43:36,640 --> 01:43:40,160
Speaker 1: around of tests they gave. Because these kids come back

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01:43:40,280 --> 01:43:42,400
Speaker 1: and their kids are like you and I, Pete and JP,

1857
01:43:42,560 --> 01:43:44,519
Speaker 1: we were all the same way. You get back, you

1858
01:43:44,560 --> 01:43:46,280
Speaker 1: want to hang out, you go party, you know, go

1859
01:43:46,360 --> 01:43:49,919
Speaker 1: to your friends and do whatever you're gonna do. But colleges,

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01:43:50,080 --> 01:43:51,439
Speaker 1: like that's why I think college is gonna have a

1861
01:43:51,479 --> 01:43:53,320
Speaker 1: hard time trying to figure this whole thing out. As

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01:43:53,439 --> 01:43:56,120
Speaker 1: much as I want to football to be played, because

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01:43:56,200 --> 01:43:58,640
Speaker 1: you have so many factors and variables around kids on

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01:43:58,720 --> 01:44:01,200
Speaker 1: a campus, but this has to be different. If you're

1865
01:44:01,200 --> 01:44:04,840
Speaker 1: in the NFL, this is your job. Like my wife

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01:44:04,880 --> 01:44:06,439
Speaker 1: and I was funny, we were talking about this, and

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01:44:06,479 --> 01:44:08,439
Speaker 1: I'd love to get your guys opinion, and we were

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01:44:08,439 --> 01:44:11,800
Speaker 1: talking about, like where would I do because you had

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01:44:11,800 --> 01:44:14,840
Speaker 1: players opt out and everything else, which I respect, and

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01:44:15,000 --> 01:44:18,800
Speaker 1: you know, every soldier, a fellow left out, will opted out,

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01:44:18,920 --> 01:44:22,120
Speaker 1: his child has has had cancer and everything else, and

1872
01:44:22,360 --> 01:44:24,839
Speaker 1: some guys have opted out because they have newborn babies.

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01:44:25,040 --> 01:44:27,160
Speaker 1: I respect all that. But my wife and I asked,

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01:44:27,200 --> 01:44:28,479
Speaker 1: and I said, what do you think we would do?

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01:44:28,760 --> 01:44:31,479
Speaker 1: And basically her response was like this is what we're

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01:44:31,479 --> 01:44:33,519
Speaker 1: gonna do. You're gonna go stay at the hotel for

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01:44:33,600 --> 01:44:35,559
Speaker 1: six months and go play football because that's your damn job,

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01:44:35,560 --> 01:44:37,080
Speaker 1: and I'll today home to take care of the kids.

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01:44:37,880 --> 01:44:39,519
Speaker 1: It was interesting because it was like, and I'm not

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01:44:39,600 --> 01:44:42,280
Speaker 1: saying that's the right decision for everybody, but like for

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Speaker 1: I want to play, and she's like, yeah, you better

1885
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Speaker 1: go play. It's like your job, Like go stay in hotel,

1886
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Speaker 1: we can face time to the kids. You can go

1887
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Speaker 1: play football. And because if you think about it, there's

1888
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Speaker 1: a lot of professions in the this world where guys

1889
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Speaker 1: like to go like like if I had to make

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1895
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Speaker 1: it gets so selfish for me to one like a

1896
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Speaker 1: long career in the NFL is ten years, So if

1897
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Speaker 1: you don't play one year you're taking away ten percent

1898
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Speaker 1: of your career. That's a lot, and you don't realize

1899
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Speaker 1: that when you're in the middle of it. The second

1900
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1901
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1902
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Speaker 1: had I'll say, if I was, if I was at

1903
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Speaker 1: the level of player I was when I played the

1904
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Speaker 1: best left tackle. So I've been making twenty million dollars

1905
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Speaker 1: this year, and I was gonna look around and say, Okay,

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Speaker 1: I either can opt out because maybe my family, my

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Speaker 1: health issue. I can opt out and stay home, which,

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Speaker 1: by the way, if you're gonna do that, that means

1910
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Speaker 1: you can't leave the house at all. Because you're saying

1911
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Speaker 1: I'm gonna protect them, that means don't leave because of

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Speaker 1: what you're you'd expose yourself with everyday life. Would I

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Speaker 1: do that? Which is I respect that option? Or would

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Speaker 1: I say, Hey, I'm gonna go live in a hotel

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Speaker 1: for six months and i will make sure my family

1916
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Speaker 1: is not exposed at all, and I'm gonna play football.

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Speaker 1: I would choose that I would go stay in the hotel.

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Speaker 1: Iould separate myself from my family or anyone that that

1919
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Speaker 1: was at risk to go play the game because you

1920
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Speaker 1: have such a small window in this league. Plus, like

1921
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Speaker 1: you said, it's your job. Yeah, you're doing really that

1922
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Speaker 1: was that was the best comment. My wife just looked

1923
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1924
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Speaker 1: just wants to get ready for She's gonna probably say,

1925
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1926
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Speaker 1: months out of here alone. Make no mistake. I used

1927
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Speaker 1: to try. Me. I travel a lot usually this pandemic.

1928
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1929
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1930
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1931
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Speaker 1: I'm like, I might not travel the NFL because the

1932
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1933
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1934
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Speaker 1: month on the road, right now, that's true. Your wife's disappointed.

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Speaker 1: Let's come back in a moment. We'll we'll touch around

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Speaker 1: Tony Boselli, Glad you're along with us for the first

1988
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Speaker 1: Monday program of the season, boy, and and Tony looks

1989
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Speaker 1: like he's really into it. What do you mean, I'm

1990
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Speaker 1: into it? Baby, you're beating in I'm getting tight. I'm

1991
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Speaker 1: like into it. Well, we're glad, glad you're into it?

1992
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Speaker 1: Are you? What are you gonna fest off and tell

1993
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Speaker 1: us what that room is? You didn't you don't get

1994
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Speaker 1: thrown in like a prison or something, did you? What

1995
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Speaker 1: do you do it's a it's an undisclosed sight that

1996
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Speaker 1: I can't comment on where I am. You're up to

1997
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Speaker 1: something listening, But but he has a wait staff apparently,

1998
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Speaker 1: so that he's got that going. Well. I mean, are

1999
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Speaker 1: you I fake or I could have fake books behind me?

2000
01:51:37,800 --> 01:51:41,120
Speaker 1: Like JP doesn't act like they're real. They're real books. Okay,

2001
01:51:41,320 --> 01:51:45,920
Speaker 1: they're books he never read. You have not read one

2002
01:51:45,960 --> 01:51:52,280
Speaker 1: of those books, Bryant. You see what I got here? Oh? Yeah, yeah,

2003
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Speaker 1: you're ch You know only three people have ever read

2004
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Speaker 1: read that book. Look at look at that guy in

2005
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Speaker 1: the back, but full head of hair. It's fantastic, Risco

2006
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Speaker 1: and JOHNNYO Selly. You know what's even better is this

2007
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Speaker 1: one Mark Brunel Books, South Paul. How about where did

2008
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Speaker 1: you write that? Oh? Yeah, it was written for it

2009
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Speaker 1: was a kid's book. And then here somewhere you blame

2010
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Speaker 1: him for running it a sack into your You ran

2011
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Speaker 1: a sack into you, That's true. I never gave the

2012
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Speaker 1: only sacks ever gave up for his fault? Did he listens?

2013
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Speaker 1: You better be nice text? Did you sell any of

2014
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Speaker 1: those books either? One? Yeah? Yeah. The problem with the

2015
01:52:45,479 --> 01:52:48,559
Speaker 1: first book, Jackson Richard was by the time it got

2016
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Speaker 1: out the other season over. Yeah, too late. You missed

2017
01:52:53,200 --> 01:52:55,680
Speaker 1: the mark on it a little bit. Hey you need

2018
01:52:56,000 --> 01:52:57,519
Speaker 1: you need an e books. You get out of the

2019
01:52:57,680 --> 01:53:03,000
Speaker 1: book right away? Yeah, didn't, Tony JP hasn't read anything

2020
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Speaker 1: behind them showed real books you're talking about. And here's

2021
01:53:07,280 --> 01:53:09,400
Speaker 1: the other thing, like what are these footballs? Like you've

2022
01:53:09,400 --> 01:53:11,439
Speaker 1: never played in that organized sport in your life and

2023
01:53:11,520 --> 01:53:15,120
Speaker 1: you have like these football This is Alabama. There's some

2024
01:53:15,200 --> 01:53:18,280
Speaker 1: World Football League ball to my left, my left, you're right,

2025
01:53:18,720 --> 01:53:21,160
Speaker 1: these are London balls. So this is the Bill's game.

2026
01:53:21,280 --> 01:53:23,840
Speaker 1: This is another one. What's the one in the case

2027
01:53:24,960 --> 01:53:29,080
Speaker 1: the old World Football League? An official? That was my

2028
01:53:29,200 --> 01:53:34,000
Speaker 1: grandparents were season ticket olders for the Birmingham teams, the

2029
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Speaker 1: Vulcans and the Americans. They changed they were franchises. Yes,

2030
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Speaker 1: so there you go. That's what you did. The World

2031
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Speaker 1: Football leagame seventy seventy, mid seventies probably right, Yeah, something

2032
01:53:47,880 --> 01:53:50,519
Speaker 1: like that. All right, we have plenty of weeks to

2033
01:53:50,600 --> 01:53:54,200
Speaker 1: go through my stuff on the behind me here on

2034
01:53:54,320 --> 01:53:57,200
Speaker 1: the on the set. So so here's the thing. Okay,

2035
01:53:57,240 --> 01:53:59,439
Speaker 1: before we go around the league, I expect every week

2036
01:54:00,439 --> 01:54:02,200
Speaker 1: at some point we're in a segment. You have to

2037
01:54:02,240 --> 01:54:04,160
Speaker 1: put one of the books out behind you and give

2038
01:54:04,200 --> 01:54:06,120
Speaker 1: us a book report that you've actually read it. I

2039
01:54:06,200 --> 01:54:09,320
Speaker 1: have an agreement on that. I can do that. I

2040
01:54:09,400 --> 01:54:11,080
Speaker 1: can do that. I can do that. All right, I

2041
01:54:11,080 --> 01:54:14,639
Speaker 1: can do We'll work on that. Let's go around the league.

2042
01:54:14,720 --> 01:54:17,200
Speaker 1: Let's start in the FC south of the Houston Texans.

2043
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Speaker 1: Kidding Still is activated from the non football illness list

2044
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Speaker 1: and undisclosed illness Still and cold the linebacker taking off

2045
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Speaker 1: the p U P. He had a torn a c

2046
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Speaker 1: L during the game against the Colts last year. Are

2047
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Speaker 1: they the favorite? They've won the division for out of

2048
01:54:31,760 --> 01:54:35,400
Speaker 1: the last five years. I don't think so. How do

2049
01:54:37,640 --> 01:54:40,320
Speaker 1: how do they rush the pastor? And they have some

2050
01:54:40,440 --> 01:54:43,600
Speaker 1: issues in the secondary the offensive line. You hope those

2051
01:54:43,680 --> 01:54:47,040
Speaker 1: young guys get better and they lost Hopkins, absolutely not.

2052
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Speaker 1: Let's do power Raking. Well, let's get through the rest

2053
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Speaker 1: of the teams before we do the power. The Indianapolis

2054
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Speaker 1: Colts Philip Rivers and c Y Hilton connecting earlier in camp,

2055
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Speaker 1: especially today, they caught three of the first four passes

2056
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Speaker 1: from Rivers. Hilton back from a minor hamstring issue, and

2057
01:55:05,880 --> 01:55:09,040
Speaker 1: Rivers was charted unofficially nine of thirteen and eleven on

2058
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Speaker 1: eleven sessions and Pete, I know how much you love

2059
01:55:11,640 --> 01:55:15,360
Speaker 1: that's stupid. Eleven on eleven stats. Yeah, I hate eleven

2060
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Speaker 1: on eleven stats. Guys work on stuff in camp. You

2061
01:55:18,360 --> 01:55:21,760
Speaker 1: can't evaluate that stuff. Numbers are dumb. Didn't somebody used

2062
01:55:21,760 --> 01:55:26,880
Speaker 1: to chart the plays there all the time he works? Yeah, yeah,

2063
01:55:27,080 --> 01:55:29,040
Speaker 1: that's dumb. I mean they don't mean anything. You go

2064
01:55:29,080 --> 01:55:31,360
Speaker 1: ask a quarterback what is charting? What you're charting? And

2065
01:55:31,400 --> 01:55:32,960
Speaker 1: they go, what are you talking about? I work on

2066
01:55:33,040 --> 01:55:35,760
Speaker 1: so much stuff in camp. Dumb. But Philip Rivers will

2067
01:55:35,760 --> 01:55:38,080
Speaker 1: have a good year for the Colts. Yeah, he's didna

2068
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Speaker 1: get protected for the first time about correct a decade.

2069
01:55:43,000 --> 01:55:47,600
Speaker 1: This is a tough guy. Yeah, blind, I've heard through

2070
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Speaker 1: the rumor men all that the kid Jonathan what's the

2071
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Speaker 1: kid from Wisconsin? They drafted the running back Donthan Taylor.

2072
01:55:54,360 --> 01:55:59,040
Speaker 1: Looks really good. They'll be good on offense. So we

2073
01:55:59,120 --> 01:56:04,200
Speaker 1: got that. The Tennessee Titans Ryan Tannehill was absent from

2074
01:56:04,240 --> 01:56:08,680
Speaker 1: Monday's practice, so I don't know. He wasn't in practice.

2075
01:56:08,720 --> 01:56:10,720
Speaker 1: He was at He was absent from their two playoff

2076
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Speaker 1: victories to wow. The other two quarterbacks got increased rests today.

2077
01:56:17,800 --> 01:56:21,400
Speaker 1: Corey Davis so wide. Reacy made his first appearance today

2078
01:56:22,000 --> 01:56:25,839
Speaker 1: after starting camp on the pup are what's the Titans

2079
01:56:25,960 --> 01:56:28,840
Speaker 1: situation here? They are they sustainable? We've touched on this

2080
01:56:29,080 --> 01:56:34,040
Speaker 1: earlier on seventeen Jaguars. Do you think they're gonna win

2081
01:56:34,120 --> 01:56:39,040
Speaker 1: five games? They'll probably, they'll probably win seven. I actually

2082
01:56:39,080 --> 01:56:41,840
Speaker 1: think I get to define sustainable. And obviously when we

2083
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Speaker 1: say we're not really talking real money. We don't believe

2084
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Speaker 1: in gambling. On the show, it was a figure of

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Speaker 1: speech to be entertainment purposes only. I don't want to

2086
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Speaker 1: get in trouble. Uh, is like, like, tell me what

2087
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Speaker 1: sustainable was. They're gonna be the same thing they've been

2088
01:56:54,840 --> 01:56:57,880
Speaker 1: the last like four years. They're gonna be eight and eight,

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Speaker 1: nine and seven, fighting for the wild card and if

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Speaker 1: they get during the playoffs, they can make it run

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Speaker 1: because they're a physical, tough team. Coach by my career,

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Speaker 1: that's what they're gonna be. Huh where they go six

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Speaker 1: and ten and not make the playoffs? You again, you

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Speaker 1: want to like have dinner on the winning more than

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Speaker 1: six year. You said they're gonna be in the playoffs.

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Speaker 1: I'll say they won't. No, I did not say that.

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Speaker 1: I said, they're gonna be eight and eight nineties seven

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Speaker 1: fighting for a while, Kurt spot like they do every year. Well,

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Speaker 1: here's let's just say dinner. I'll take them not being

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Speaker 1: in the playoffs. You take them being in. Pete difference

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Speaker 1: is therefore not sustainable. If you won't take that, you

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Speaker 1: said six wins, I said, anytime you want to say

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Speaker 1: dinner on sixth win, and it's not sustainable. Okay, well

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Speaker 1: we'll get the defiant sustainable. Are they going to the

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Speaker 1: plaoffs this year? Yeah? I mean they're fit. They're a

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Speaker 1: coin flip. I think they're gonna for dinner. You got

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Speaker 1: them in the playoffs and I got them out day

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Speaker 1: we please translate to him said, I don't know. I

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Speaker 1: got lost in my ears. I don't know the whole thing.

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Speaker 1: Let's touch quickly on the Washington football team and quarterback

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Speaker 1: Alex Smith cleared to practice. Ron Rivera said he's gonna

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Speaker 1: be in the mix to be the starter this year,

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Speaker 1: going up against Wayne Haskins. What a story this? Yeah, well,

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Speaker 1: I have a question me whatever. And I was watching.

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry because Pete will probably notice, but I was

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Speaker 1: watching like him getting like congratulated his family, like Spring

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Speaker 1: Champaign on him or wherever. Yeah, it looked like it

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Speaker 1: looks like he has a drop dragging and he's dragging it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah no, but it looks like his drop foot because

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Speaker 1: of the image it did not. That was not a

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Speaker 1: good look. And being cleared for football and being cleared

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Speaker 1: for football are two different things. I can't see him

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Speaker 1: going on a field and running around and taking shots

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Speaker 1: and everything else right now, story your root for him?

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Speaker 1: Good dude. Now, maybe, like Jalen Smith played a year

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Speaker 1: with drop foot, the nerve wasn't all the way back

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Speaker 1: to Kim, but he had a brace on there that

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Speaker 1: you can play with it, and so maybe that's the case. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I don't know, but that's something I would want to know.

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Speaker 1: But it's regardless. The guy almost lost his leg literally

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Speaker 1: they were they were having discussions in the o R

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Speaker 1: do we cut his leg off or not? And now

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Speaker 1: he's back on the football field of an NFL team.

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Speaker 1: I take my hat off to him. Is mean. If

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Speaker 1: you've ever you want to read a story, read the

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Speaker 1: story about what they went through. That was amazing. Good stuff.

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Speaker 1: Tony Pete. Hey, we're off and on him. We'll talk

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Speaker 1: to you next week See from Pete Prisco, Tony Vasselli.

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Speaker 1: I'm J. P. Shadrick. Thank you for listening and watching

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Speaker 1: its Jaguars Happy Hour on the Jaguars Digital Network.