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Speaker 1: four for more details. Well, the Giants got the weekend

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Speaker 1: off after playing Thursday night and losing to the Patriots

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Speaker 1: thirty five to fourteen. Uh. They were back in the

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Speaker 1: facility today taking questions in the media. They had a

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Speaker 1: practice out there in Shells. We'll talk about that. We'll

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Speaker 1: do a little recap of the weekend games and how

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Speaker 1: that relates back to the Giants Lance. We heard Pat

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Speaker 1: Schremer talk today. We heard from Jebral Peppers. We heard

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Speaker 1: from newly acquired Buck Allen by the way, uh, Javorce

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Speaker 1: or Buck Allen your choice. Apparently he's on the roster now.

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Speaker 1: Benny Fowler's back, Alex Tanny is back, so those guys

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Speaker 1: are new additions to the roster. We heard from two

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Speaker 1: Jewel Peppers today. Evan Ingram head coach Pat Shermer lance,

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Speaker 1: what jumped out to you? Well, first of all, I

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Speaker 1: think the claims at Evan Ingram made when he spoke

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Speaker 1: to the media John was probably the first thing that

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Speaker 1: jumped out to me. He seemed very optimistic. He says

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Speaker 1: he's feeling a lot better. He specifically said that if

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Speaker 1: you recalled last year when he was dealing with a

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Speaker 1: similar knee injury, he feels it's not nearly as difficult

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Speaker 1: to overcome his last years was, which cost him multiple weeks.

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Speaker 1: So all signs are trending in the right direction. All

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Speaker 1: signs are pointing in the right direction for Evan Ingram.

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Speaker 1: I think to be back out on the field for

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Speaker 1: Sunday's game, which I think is really good news for

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Speaker 1: the Giants, to quotes at the tweet him out today

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Speaker 1: for the Giants, today was a very good day, Ingram said,

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Speaker 1: in terms of recovery and how he did on the

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Speaker 1: practice field. He also added, he's quote unquote pretty optimistic

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Speaker 1: about playing this week, so good spot. Yes, So that

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Speaker 1: I think is a big positive. Se Kwon Barkley did

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Speaker 1: him on Twitter, he seems to be very anxious to

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Speaker 1: get back out on the field. Had a hype video

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Speaker 1: that he sent out the other day that says he's

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Speaker 1: gonna be back soon. You can read into that as

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Speaker 1: you may. But they do have other running backs now

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Speaker 1: in the mix, with Buck Allen joining the group, So

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Speaker 1: that's an experience running back. He carried the way in

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Speaker 1: Baltimore for a few seasons from two thousand fifteen to

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Speaker 1: two thousand eighteen. So you know, you're talking about another

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Speaker 1: experience guy that could also catch the ball out of

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Speaker 1: the backfield if Kwan is not ready to go, and

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Speaker 1: and he's somebody that is now slowly learning and adjusting

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Speaker 1: to the new offensive schemes. So you know, in the NFL,

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Speaker 1: life comes at you quick, John, as you well know,

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Speaker 1: you've gotta be immersed into the situation. You know. The

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Speaker 1: good news for a guy like Benny Fowlers, who also

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Speaker 1: talked to the media. Benny said it was almost like

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Speaker 1: he never left the team because he watched the game

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Speaker 1: on Thursday night with a number of the injured players

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Speaker 1: at Sterling Shepherd's house. He was telling the media, and

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Speaker 1: then he also has been going out for dinner with

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Speaker 1: a lot of his teammates. So now it's just a

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Speaker 1: matter if he's allowed back at the facility because he's

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Speaker 1: once again a member of the team. But at least

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Speaker 1: the Giants know in the event that they're not fully

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Speaker 1: healthy at the wide receiver position once again, just like

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Speaker 1: when they brought back t. J. Jones, they have somebody

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Speaker 1: that knows the offense very well. Yeah, Patrmo was kg

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Speaker 1: in terms of Sa Kwan Barkley said, we'll just have

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Speaker 1: to see so no additional ward on him. Also, Sam

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Speaker 1: from injured reserve after week eight, and Pat Irmer said

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Speaker 1: on Wednesday. He was not out there today. Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: think those were pretty much the main takeaways. They're looking

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Speaker 1: already ahead to Arizona. John That's the benefit of course,

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Speaker 1: playing on a Thursday to start preparing for a Cardinals

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Speaker 1: Atlanta Falcons after Matt Bryant missed that extra point, after

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Speaker 1: Atlanta storm back, and you're going up against a rookie

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Speaker 1: weeks go along. I always say this, there are no

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Speaker 1: layups in the National Football League, John, I don't care

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Speaker 1: whether you've seen in previous week the team gave up

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Speaker 1: documented moving forward. It's a weekweek league, man. You don't know.

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Speaker 1: One team can look great one week. The next week

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Speaker 1: they can come out and not look great, then they

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Speaker 1: can look great the week after that, especially when you

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Speaker 1: have a young quarterback like Kyler Murray who's coming to

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Speaker 1: his own He played really well against against the Falcons,

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Speaker 1: which I thought was telling. And yeah, I mean, you

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Speaker 1: just don't know weekend, week out, and I think heading

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Speaker 1: if this is a game that maybe expect to win,

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Speaker 1: you fully expect you should have every opportunity to win

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Speaker 1: if you play well enough. This isn't a situation where

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Speaker 1: you're going into New England without half your offense, or

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Speaker 1: you know, you've been hosting a Vikings team who's really, really,

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Speaker 1: really good. This is a game where if you play

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Speaker 1: well enough, you should be able to win the game.

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Speaker 1: And I'm frankly I bet you the Cardinals heading into

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Speaker 1: New York are saying, you know what, this is a

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Speaker 1: game we can win two against a team that's you know,

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Speaker 1: come out you have to play well. The Cardinals certainly

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Speaker 1: of the Cowboys, maybe the way Dallas is playing now, Yes,

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Speaker 1: but just take a look at the team. You've gotta

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Speaker 1: as we saw in the NFL on Sunday, any given week,

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Speaker 1: that's going to determine whether or not you win these games. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it comes down to execution. John, It comes down to

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Speaker 1: match ups. You know, sometimes you get a team that

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Speaker 1: all of a sudden it's tied up. Well, what happened, John?

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Speaker 1: You got two big explosive plays because Golden Tait holes

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Speaker 1: goes to show you you had one relatively healthy team

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Speaker 1: then the Patriots regroup. But that just goes to show you.

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Speaker 1: You know, it's a cliche line, but I think there's

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Speaker 1: A lot of interceptions. Yeah, absolutely, the Redskins hold on

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Speaker 1: well executed final two point conversion. Yeah, but even if

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Speaker 1: So that's a big deal. Look at the Dallas Cowboys

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Speaker 1: going around the league. John. Yeah, the Eagles getting beat

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Speaker 1: attacking the Giants. That there's a lot of factors that

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Speaker 1: go into why that statistic is such a big difference

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Speaker 1: between Eli Manning versus Daniel Jones. But it's a telling

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Speaker 1: stat and also it's something that Daniel Jones realizes. Listen,

433
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Speaker 1: in this league, you don't have a clean pocket all

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Speaker 1: the time, and you know, as you mentioned, he knows

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Speaker 1: that firsthand for playing a duke, So you know that's

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Speaker 1: the positive. Also, I think what he experienced in college.

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Speaker 1: You know, everybody talks about, oh, the Vikings and the

438
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Speaker 1: Patriots was a route awakening for her. I mean, yes,

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Speaker 1: it provided a different look at defenses that maybe the

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Speaker 1: box and the Redskins didn't show. But at the same time,

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Speaker 1: you're also talking about a quarterback that dealt with a

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Speaker 1: lot of unfavorable circumstances during his college career. So Daniel

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Speaker 1: Jones knows what it's like when you don't have all

444
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Speaker 1: pro wide receivers and running backs to throw too and

445
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Speaker 1: hand the ball off to. Daniel Jones knows what it's

446
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Speaker 1: like when pressure is coming at you. That to me,

447
00:20:08,960 --> 00:20:11,560
Speaker 1: is nothing new for him because he was exposed to

448
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Speaker 1: that all throughout the course of his collegiate career. BINGO

449
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Speaker 1: and just average time to pass attempt Daniel Jones at

450
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Speaker 1: two point seven seconds average time. This is very telling.

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Speaker 1: Average time to sack three point six two seconds Daniel

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Speaker 1: Jones according to Pro Football Focus, And just to give

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Speaker 1: you an example, um Eli Mannings numbers, time to sack

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Speaker 1: was actually four point two seconds, so in the which case,

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Speaker 1: Eli actually held it longer when he got sacked, but

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Speaker 1: time to throw two point five three seconds. So again

457
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Speaker 1: it just shows you and guys, we see this all

458
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Speaker 1: the time, how the veteran quarterbacks like Tom Brady and

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Speaker 1: Drew Brees and those guys avoids acts. They do it

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Speaker 1: by getting the ball out. But you can do that

461
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Speaker 1: because you're so advanced and experienced that you're able to

462
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Speaker 1: get rid of the ball and know exactly what's happening.

463
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Speaker 1: He's a rookie quarterback. He's a really smart kid. He

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Speaker 1: is advanced for a first your quarterback and doing these

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Speaker 1: types of things. But this is how young quarterbacks tend

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Speaker 1: to move along. I got like Baker Mayfield is a

467
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Speaker 1: perfect example. And he's heading into his second year, right,

468
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Speaker 1: he is a full season plus of experience. He's still

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Speaker 1: holding the ball too long and he and then Jones

470
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Speaker 1: is much better pocket presence than he does. Mayfield's bowing

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Speaker 1: out of the pocket, not throwing the ball. You know,

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Speaker 1: he's holding it. So this is a problem not on

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Speaker 1: the young quarterbacks face. It's not one that I don't

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Speaker 1: think is a is a long term one that you

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Speaker 1: have to, you know, really be worried about. But it's

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Speaker 1: something that we've seen pop up from time to time earlier.

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Speaker 1: And that's fine, that's not that big of a deal. Well,

478
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Speaker 1: and that's why the more reps a young quarterback gets,

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Speaker 1: you hope that helps him in the long word. It

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Speaker 1: was the same thing with Eli Manning. And not to

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Speaker 1: get completely off topic, John, but you brought up the Lions.

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Speaker 1: I'm actually very intrigued to see that game, maybe more

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Speaker 1: so than this Arizona matchup, because he's gonna be going

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Speaker 1: up against the Matt Patricia defense, and by playing New

485
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Speaker 1: England already, John, I just wonder that's good point. By

486
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Speaker 1: being exposed to a Belichick defense, does that better prepare

487
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Speaker 1: him for what Matt Patricia is gonna throwing him, because

488
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Speaker 1: it's the same similar school of philosophy. And the reason

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Speaker 1: I bring that up, and this has been well documented,

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Speaker 1: so I don't think I'm necessarily telling any about anything

491
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Speaker 1: they haven't heard. But Matt Patricia and the Lions were

492
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Speaker 1: very successful against the Rams last season. If you go

493
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Speaker 1: back during the regular season. He then consulted with Belichick

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Speaker 1: in leading up to preparing for the Super Bowl to

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Speaker 1: give some pointers. Did they talk about how that they

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Speaker 1: could slow down Jared Gothaan Company. Now I'm not taking

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Speaker 1: away any credit from Belichian, but that's why I'm bringing

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Speaker 1: that up because I hadn't heard that. Yeah. Now, I

499
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Speaker 1: don't know how much Patricia and Belichick are talking during

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Speaker 1: the course of the season. Clearly they know each other

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Speaker 1: very well. But is it possible that when they have

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Speaker 1: common opponents, John and you know an opposing coach who

503
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Speaker 1: went up against that team, do you pick up the

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Speaker 1: phone and be like, hey, what worked for your defense?

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Speaker 1: Just throwing that out there. I'm not saying that I

506
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Speaker 1: have any hardcore, substantive evidence that shows that that's gonna happen,

507
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Speaker 1: but I think the similarities between Detroit and New England

508
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Speaker 1: is gonna be very interesting to say. And you have

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Speaker 1: the tape, obviously, children or take a look at it.

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Speaker 1: Analyze Joe Pennsylvania's up next to Joe. Hey, hey, guys,

511
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Speaker 1: my eyes are spinning from watching all them football games

512
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Speaker 1: and the Eagles and the Cowboys into the Yankees. Wait,

513
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Speaker 1: good thing, you know, great thing, great great sports day

514
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Speaker 1: on Sunday. Except for the result of the Yankee games. Well,

515
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Speaker 1: I said, they're too bad. They didn't ever review on Sanchez.

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Speaker 1: There ain't that strike call there Joel on the pitch

517
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Speaker 1: before that he missed if because I got cut off

518
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Speaker 1: the last time there with here? But can when they

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Speaker 1: can they throw a fine for that low hit on Jones? Yes?

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Speaker 1: You can, right, because could they could they have? Uh

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Speaker 1: canalyzed them on that when they reviewed that, even though

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Speaker 1: that he was doing it for passing their perence. No, no,

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Speaker 1: you can only stick to one element of the play

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Speaker 1: they see that. They didn't want to do that because

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Speaker 1: that would have opened up Pandora's box. Well, if it

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Speaker 1: was a re viewable element, it could have been added.

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Speaker 1: But that is not a reviewable element of the play. Well,

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Speaker 1: but that's also the danger of reviewing. I was just

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Speaker 1: thinking of a penalty like that if they could call

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Speaker 1: it regardless if they see it, Because isn't there some

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Speaker 1: things like I thought you said when you review a thing,

532
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Speaker 1: that the reps can review everything or no, no, no, Joe, Joe,

533
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Speaker 1: you can review every element of the play. That's reviewable.

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Speaker 1: So if the receiver, say, steps out of bounds before

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Speaker 1: he catches the ball, that's reviewable. If you see that

536
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Speaker 1: there were twelve men on the field, for example, that's

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Speaker 1: an element to the play that are reviewed. But the

538
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Speaker 1: only actual penalty that's reviewable is pass interference. Other judgment

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Speaker 1: call stuff is not subject to review. For example, you

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Speaker 1: can't review and correctly have a round you You You can't

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Speaker 1: review a legal contact or or defensive holding. So meaning

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Speaker 1: if you see a play in which there's pass interference

543
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Speaker 1: but it's really illegal contact or defensive holding, you can't

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Speaker 1: then change it to that call because that's not reviewable.

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Speaker 1: Okay too, Like I said, I was watching all these games.

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Speaker 1: Don't know if our Giants was and they were Yankee

547
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Speaker 1: fans to do they have curfews? No? I don't think

548
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Speaker 1: the Giant players have curfews on a Sunday when they

549
00:25:09,480 --> 00:25:11,600
Speaker 1: don't play it for the following week. Now, I mean

550
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Speaker 1: our team players. No, they don't know. I didn't know

551
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Speaker 1: if they do or not. I didn't know. I didn't know.

552
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Speaker 1: I don't think refused or not. They The only day

553
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Speaker 1: they have curfews, Joe was the night before the game. Yeah,

554
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Speaker 1: that's and that's that's when they're actually together. Lance. You're

555
00:25:26,680 --> 00:25:31,240
Speaker 1: talking about playing Alliance Ago with Tricia and that. But

556
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Speaker 1: I think it's gonna be a little different. We're a

557
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Speaker 1: New England game. They concentrated on Jones a little more,

558
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Speaker 1: stopping him. When we have Barkley in there. I think

559
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Speaker 1: he's going to be the main thing that stop changes

560
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Speaker 1: them different there. I think that's fair. What else did

561
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Speaker 1: not what I really called here? Trade lines coming up here?

562
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Speaker 1: Or so when when's that here? Is there? Then when

563
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Speaker 1: you can trade I will check. I'm honestly not even

564
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Speaker 1: sure when I'll check in right here they click in

565
00:26:00,280 --> 00:26:03,920
Speaker 1: clean House before the trade line with Snacks and October

566
00:26:04,760 --> 00:26:07,880
Speaker 1: the trade dead two weeks, two weeks from tomorrow, right,

567
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Speaker 1: like I says, I don't know. I heard rumors when Elie,

568
00:26:11,560 --> 00:26:13,800
Speaker 1: but he'd have to accept it. I know I heard

569
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Speaker 1: like the Bears maybe we're making an offer. And I

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Speaker 1: don't know if they would put up Jack Rabbit or

571
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Speaker 1: not because of uh of his contract running out, But

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Speaker 1: I would you know, after Affam went last year or so,

573
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Speaker 1: I wouldn't be surprised of anything. Well, granted, nobody is

574
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Speaker 1: guaranteed to stay with the team. There's no doubt about that.

575
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Speaker 1: But you gotta separate the rumorville, which happens all the

576
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Speaker 1: time around this time of the year, versus what's actually reality.

577
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Speaker 1: And I mean, as far as the Bears are concerned,

578
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Speaker 1: Mitchell Robinski is coming back, it's not a season ending injury.

579
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Speaker 1: And Matt Naggie's got Chase Daniel, who knows that offense

580
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Speaker 1: backwards and forwards because he was with Matt Maggie going

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Speaker 1: back to the days together in Kansas City. I just

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Speaker 1: I'd find that hard to believe that there's any substance

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Speaker 1: even to that rumor that they even worth thinking about

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Speaker 1: acquiring up Joe. Remember Joe, Remember that the Giants are

585
00:27:05,640 --> 00:27:08,560
Speaker 1: gonna have a ton of cap space next season. To

586
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Speaker 1: let go of a guy like Jenkins just to get

587
00:27:11,160 --> 00:27:14,040
Speaker 1: some more cap room when he's your best starting cornerback,

588
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Speaker 1: I'm not sure that's the best way to go. I

589
00:27:16,240 --> 00:27:19,320
Speaker 1: don't like that either, because even last year, I I

590
00:27:19,320 --> 00:27:21,560
Speaker 1: thought they did it a little too quick, that we

591
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Speaker 1: might might have been able to make the playoffs when

592
00:27:24,160 --> 00:27:27,080
Speaker 1: they unloaded Snacks and a few other of them there.

593
00:27:27,359 --> 00:27:31,280
Speaker 1: But I'm just saying here and now here with Jack Rabbit,

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Speaker 1: you know, because he is contracts up. I'd like I'd

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Speaker 1: like to keep him. But do you think that there

596
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Speaker 1: was any way Eli would come back next year at

597
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Speaker 1: a lower price to be the backup you think he would?

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Speaker 1: I have loved to have him. I have no idea

599
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Speaker 1: what he's thinking, but just as a guest, I would

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Speaker 1: consider that unlikely and I would agree with why John,

601
00:27:52,480 --> 00:27:54,800
Speaker 1: I mean, because he doesn't want to. I'd love to

602
00:27:54,840 --> 00:27:57,959
Speaker 1: have him in there, you know, as that you know?

603
00:27:58,080 --> 00:28:00,160
Speaker 1: Or do you think he'd rather just go and see

604
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Speaker 1: if he can get a starting job. If he can't

605
00:28:02,200 --> 00:28:04,960
Speaker 1: get a starting job, he's gonna retire. I think Eli

606
00:28:05,000 --> 00:28:06,680
Speaker 1: will do one of two things next year. He will

607
00:28:06,680 --> 00:28:09,199
Speaker 1: be starting for a football team as their quarterback, or

608
00:28:09,240 --> 00:28:11,520
Speaker 1: he will be sitting on the beach somewhere or spending

609
00:28:11,560 --> 00:28:13,919
Speaker 1: time with his kids and enjoying his family after a

610
00:28:14,080 --> 00:28:16,840
Speaker 1: very very long career. Well, I'd love to have him.

611
00:28:16,880 --> 00:28:19,040
Speaker 1: You know the way Earle Morow used to come in

612
00:28:19,080 --> 00:28:21,720
Speaker 1: and the backups like that, you know what I mean,

613
00:28:22,160 --> 00:28:25,080
Speaker 1: Stunny Jorgensen there, that they used to come in as

614
00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:29,080
Speaker 1: backups and and take our plan that he used to

615
00:28:29,119 --> 00:28:31,280
Speaker 1: come in. This is going back, Yeah, I mean you're

616
00:28:31,280 --> 00:28:35,040
Speaker 1: going real back in time. The game has tremendously changed, Joe. Well,

617
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Speaker 1: I mean, next you're gonna start telling us about the

618
00:28:36,880 --> 00:28:42,520
Speaker 1: nine twenties and thirties. Thank you, Joe, Joe appreciate. I mean, listen,

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Speaker 1: I'm a fan of history. But Joe, come on, the

620
00:28:44,960 --> 00:28:47,880
Speaker 1: game has completely changed. First of all, the reason why

621
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Speaker 1: the game has completely changed, Joe, is because it's very

622
00:28:50,840 --> 00:28:53,720
Speaker 1: hard for teams to have the luxury, to have cap

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Speaker 1: space to pay an experience backup quarterback. That's why a

624
00:28:58,720 --> 00:29:02,280
Speaker 1: lot of teams draw guys and keep them his backups,

625
00:29:02,320 --> 00:29:04,480
Speaker 1: just to have a rotational group of young guys and

626
00:29:04,480 --> 00:29:07,320
Speaker 1: see who pans out. You know, the days of the

627
00:29:07,360 --> 00:29:10,360
Speaker 1: Cowboys playing Kyle Orton. I remember, you know, five or

628
00:29:10,360 --> 00:29:13,000
Speaker 1: six years ago, when Romo was banged up and he

629
00:29:13,040 --> 00:29:16,080
Speaker 1: would need to be paid five to six million dollars

630
00:29:16,160 --> 00:29:18,640
Speaker 1: John to just be a backup quarterback. Most teams don't

631
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Speaker 1: have that luxury. And you think, you know, and I

632
00:29:20,720 --> 00:29:22,240
Speaker 1: don't want to get two out of ourselves, but do

633
00:29:22,240 --> 00:29:24,000
Speaker 1: you really think Elie is gonna come back? And then

634
00:29:24,040 --> 00:29:26,200
Speaker 1: he's also gonna come back, and he's gonna make you know,

635
00:29:26,520 --> 00:29:29,080
Speaker 1: a veteran minimum contract to you know, a lot of

636
00:29:29,080 --> 00:29:30,840
Speaker 1: those guys don't want to do that. If you're Eli

637
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Speaker 1: Manning and you have a chance to ride off into

638
00:29:33,240 --> 00:29:35,440
Speaker 1: the sunset, and I had not until Comlin actually have

639
00:29:35,520 --> 00:29:38,160
Speaker 1: days off here. I'm not gonna grind anymore. We're work

640
00:29:38,200 --> 00:29:40,080
Speaker 1: these late nights. You know, it's one thing if you're

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Speaker 1: doing and you're taking on a nice paycheck, you know that.

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Speaker 1: This is the same point I make when people say

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Speaker 1: why are more former players coaches? Do wonder why more

644
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Speaker 1: former players are coaches? Because you go from making you know,

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Speaker 1: millions of dollars a year to working three times is

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Speaker 1: hard and making the salary. Would you want to take

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Speaker 1: that job? I wouldn't with that. I'm gonna retire with

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Speaker 1: millions of dollars and go buy a yacht. You don't

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Speaker 1: see your family much during the course of the season, John,

650
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Speaker 1: as it is now, you basically won't see your family

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Speaker 1: ever if you become a coach. Yeah, I mean, that's

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Speaker 1: why there was a lot of questions that were posed

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Speaker 1: our way. I'm sure you got them on social media too,

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Speaker 1: you know, just make Alex Tanny the quarterbacks coach. Well,

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Speaker 1: first of all, has anyone had a conversation with Alex

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Speaker 1: does he want to be a coach? Is he ready

657
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Speaker 1: to retire? You know that that's also in his court.

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Speaker 1: He's got to determine whether or not he makes that decision,

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Speaker 1: even if you know that was posed his way. So

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Speaker 1: it takes two to tango, is the old phrase. You

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Speaker 1: may think it's a good idea, that doesn't mean the

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Speaker 1: other party involved actually wants to buy into that idea.

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Speaker 1: next day. Manny, Hey, I'm in Charlotte, North Carolina. Actually,

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Speaker 1: no problem, big big fan of the show. Guys listening

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Speaker 1: for a little while. UM I will hold you a lot.

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Speaker 1: I got two things to think about. One was, um,

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Speaker 1: I think we think. I mean, from reading up since

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Speaker 1: last Thursday, I think everybody was a little hyped up

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Speaker 1: on the way the defense played, and credit to them,

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Speaker 1: they played fantastically. I wouldn't take that away from them,

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Speaker 1: but I will I wanted to know the fact that

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00:31:13,880 --> 00:31:17,400
Speaker 1: the Patriots offense really hasn't played quite well. This season,

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Speaker 1: they've played really lackluster. I mean, their defense has carried

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Speaker 1: them quite far. I think our defense held their own

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Speaker 1: considering we got our lot backers back, we were able

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Speaker 1: to control their run games somewhat. And Tom Brady, I

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Speaker 1: hate I'm not going to be the guy to say

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Speaker 1: that Tom Brady's on his way down, because we always

683
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Speaker 1: know what happens. When you said that, I'll say, I

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Speaker 1: mean that offense just hasn't looked like like the two

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Speaker 1: thousand seven or two thousands. Man. You're right, man, you're right.

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00:31:44,200 --> 00:31:46,880
Speaker 1: And look, they don't have great weapons anymore, uh, you know,

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Speaker 1: especially once Josh Gordon went out, they didn't really have

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Speaker 1: a deep throat anymore. They're running out gunna gunner all

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Speaker 1: chefsky at that one of their wide receiver sponses converted

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Speaker 1: quarterback and they still, by the way, racked up two

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Speaker 1: hundred seven yards, which the decent them out of yards

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Speaker 1: with The Giants defense did really well in that game. Hey,

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Speaker 1: they started the game strong the Patriots and scoring their

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Speaker 1: first five possessions. But more importantly, even over the course

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Speaker 1: of the game, they were very good situationally third downs

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Speaker 1: the Patriots converted, but in the red zone they only

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Speaker 1: scored on three of their six opportunities, and they were

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Speaker 1: all of two on fourth down, So that's how the

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Speaker 1: Giants defense kept them in check. I think we've played

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Speaker 1: relatively well on third in the red zone. Ton of yards.

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Speaker 1: You know, we're going up a ton of yards throughout

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Speaker 1: the season twenty and twenty. But when you get down

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Speaker 1: in the red zone, I think we played decently decently well.

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Speaker 1: For hey, many by the way, many real quick. If

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Speaker 1: you're gonna play the strategy that Betcher's playing, which is

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Speaker 1: not puts a lot, play a lot of zone and

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Speaker 1: be a bend but don't break defense, you have to

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Speaker 1: play well on the red zone if you're gonna run

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Speaker 1: that type of defense. And it worked against the Patriots. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I do. My next thing that I wanted to excuse me.

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Speaker 1: The next thing I wanted to speak about was um offense. Offensively,

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Speaker 1: we we looked like we struggled very very well, I

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Speaker 1: mean very very badly in this in the last few games.

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Speaker 1: But the point that I want of the bank is, honestly,

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Speaker 1: I really think we played a pretty decent game. I mean,

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Speaker 1: we didn't put we didn't throw up a ton of

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Speaker 1: points that we only got one touchdown in the last

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Speaker 1: We got two touchdowns between the last two games, one each.

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Speaker 1: But if you look at it, if you look at it,

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Speaker 1: I mean Daniel Jones, that person reception, I mean that

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Speaker 1: had that ball was slightly behind god to take, you

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Speaker 1: put that ball maybe a foot further in front of

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Speaker 1: Goldie Take, and that's the reception. That's a catch and

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Speaker 1: not an interception, you know. And then we missed a

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Speaker 1: deep shot. We missed we missed one deep shot this week.

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Speaker 1: We missed two deep shots last week. You know, I

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Speaker 1: think our offense, as bad as it looks, I think

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Speaker 1: our offense is playing very well despite the fact that

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Speaker 1: we we have all these injuries. And I don't want

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Speaker 1: to use the injuries as a cripple, as a crutch

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Speaker 1: or anything and say oh this or that, but I

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Speaker 1: think credit to those guys for the fact that, like,

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Speaker 1: we really do have a chance and a lot of

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Speaker 1: these games and our offense is not far off. And

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Speaker 1: the fact that we are only one game but high

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Speaker 1: first place in the NFC East says a lot. And

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Speaker 1: I think I hate to get on a high row

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Speaker 1: here or anything, but I think we really do. I mean,

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Speaker 1: if if you start to look at it. When we

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Speaker 1: get healthy and we start to get some of these

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Speaker 1: airs back, and you and these and these younger guys

742
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Speaker 1: are growing up. Uh what's his name, the cornerback, Baker

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Speaker 1: he is. I mean, he's growing up. You know, he's

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Speaker 1: growing up. He's getting better. Uh. Antonio Bett has been

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Speaker 1: a little bit of a letdown, but I was feeling,

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Speaker 1: you know, in the later part of the season, he's

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Speaker 1: gonna get stronger. I think we have a legitimate chance

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Speaker 1: to make a playoff appearance this season. And I hate

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Speaker 1: to I'm a I'm a glass half fall guy. Of course,

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Speaker 1: I'm a diehard Giants fan all my life. But I

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Speaker 1: really think we have a legitimate chance. If we get

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Speaker 1: healthy in the right part of this season and we

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Speaker 1: started we line up some of these games the right way,

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Speaker 1: we have a chance at making appearing in the playoffs.

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Speaker 1: And I think if we get in the playoffs, we're

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Speaker 1: scary to play anybody. Okay, Mannie, thank you man. Fair enough.

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Speaker 1: I think we're getting a little ahead of ourselves. I'm

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Speaker 1: more focused on Week seven and talking about the Cardinals

759
00:34:47,320 --> 00:34:50,359
Speaker 1: than necessarily what the playoff picture looks like. But I

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00:34:50,400 --> 00:34:53,440
Speaker 1: think the Giants have shown some encouraging results, There's no

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Speaker 1: doubt about it. Based on what the cahler just said.

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Speaker 1: I don't want to be a Debbie downer, but I

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Speaker 1: think also you can't overlook the fact John, with respect

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Speaker 1: to the defense, specifically, the explosive plays are still being

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Speaker 1: given up. Okay, New England had seven plays of twenty

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Speaker 1: plus yards, and it's funny those weren't necessarily plays that

767
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Speaker 1: were deep through the air. It was a lot of

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Speaker 1: run after catch stuff, which brings into play the miss

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Speaker 1: tackling again, which wasn't as bad as the one. It

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Speaker 1: was an improven but it still wasn't perfect. But to

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Speaker 1: the caller's point, Okay, if the caller wants to point

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Speaker 1: to signs of some deep throws on offense and you're

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Speaker 1: just missing them so that hopefully will continue to improve,

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00:35:28,200 --> 00:35:31,080
Speaker 1: then I've got to then use that same logic on defense.

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Speaker 1: What we're seeing big plays, we're seeing miss tackles. You know,

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Speaker 1: that has to improve, That has to be cleaned up,

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Speaker 1: no matter who the opposition is. If you want to

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Speaker 1: see better consistency on defense, I think the pass rush

779
00:35:42,440 --> 00:35:45,680
Speaker 1: is starting to show consistency. Marcus Golden has looked really good,

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Speaker 1: you know, Lorenzo Carter making a big play. So you

781
00:35:48,080 --> 00:35:51,080
Speaker 1: want to see those flashes carry on, but you've got

782
00:35:51,080 --> 00:35:54,600
Speaker 1: to eliminate the explosive plays. And you also need to

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00:35:54,600 --> 00:35:57,839
Speaker 1: be able to capitalize on field position, which I think

784
00:35:57,880 --> 00:36:00,960
Speaker 1: sometimes the offense hasn't been able to actually and specifically

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Speaker 1: in the game against New England Patriots. And you got

786
00:36:03,160 --> 00:36:05,239
Speaker 1: to protect the football on offense. You cannot turn it

787
00:36:05,280 --> 00:36:07,320
Speaker 1: over and you have to take the bull away on defense,

788
00:36:07,360 --> 00:36:09,160
Speaker 1: two things they have not done enough of over the

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00:36:09,160 --> 00:36:11,160
Speaker 1: course of the year. And takeaways or have such a

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00:36:11,160 --> 00:36:13,640
Speaker 1: big impact on the winning and losing. Well, I'm glad

791
00:36:13,680 --> 00:36:17,280
Speaker 1: you brought that up there. Minus seven in turnover differential

792
00:36:17,360 --> 00:36:21,520
Speaker 1: right now, minus seven. The fact that they're two and

793
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Speaker 1: four is actually quite impressive. Let's talk about that, okay,

794
00:36:25,960 --> 00:36:27,799
Speaker 1: the fact that they're one game behind the division lead

795
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Speaker 1: and two and four despite being minus seven in turnover differential,

796
00:36:30,719 --> 00:36:32,920
Speaker 1: that deserves credit forget all the other things that we broke.

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00:36:33,719 --> 00:36:35,440
Speaker 1: The two games they won, they were what even with

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Speaker 1: Washington in that game, Yes, they were going with Washington

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Speaker 1: four and four, I think right, yes, it sounds right.

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Speaker 1: Takeaways in that game, and how about the other win.

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Speaker 1: Do you have that handy, bring up the document and

802
00:36:50,440 --> 00:36:51,960
Speaker 1: we will be able to get to the bottom of

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Speaker 1: it because I actually updated it now that we had

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Speaker 1: a Thursday game. Why do you always do a very

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Speaker 1: good track in the stuff? I asked this way, we

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Speaker 1: don't have to think heavy. Okay, so you're he goes.

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Speaker 1: So here's turnovers versus takeaways. So to answer your question,

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Speaker 1: Redskins was even for four bucks. They were minus but

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00:37:07,560 --> 00:37:10,239
Speaker 1: just minus one minus one. In that game Vikings they

810
00:37:10,239 --> 00:37:12,640
Speaker 1: were even, and then the Patriots they were minus two.

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Speaker 1: But remember the first two games of the season minus four.

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00:37:16,080 --> 00:37:20,200
Speaker 1: So that's why right now it's fifteen turnovers versus eight

813
00:37:20,239 --> 00:37:23,840
Speaker 1: takeaways and eight ta is. Actually, isn't that bad of

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Speaker 1: a number this earlier in the year. No, well that

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Speaker 1: I don't know where they rank because I wait till

816
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Speaker 1: the Lions Packers game and then I'll get I can

817
00:37:30,440 --> 00:37:33,680
Speaker 1: look that of the status of the rest of the league.

818
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Speaker 1: But I know this for a fact. Going into Thursday's game,

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Speaker 1: they had the most turnovers in the National Football League. Now,

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00:37:40,840 --> 00:37:43,520
Speaker 1: once again, I'm not exactly sure whether or not they

821
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Speaker 1: stayed consistently in that department, but I would say the

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Speaker 1: fact that they turned the ball over four times. I'd

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Speaker 1: say there's a very good chance that the Giants is

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Speaker 1: still number one. Fifteen giveaways late leads the league. Pavele

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00:37:53,040 --> 00:37:56,080
Speaker 1: ended fourteen their number two in terms of takeaways. The

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Speaker 1: Giants rank so right in the middle league. That's not bad, yeah,

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Speaker 1: but it's the turnovers that, Yep, you want to get

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Speaker 1: out of the basement of and minus seven is not

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Speaker 1: a good position to be in because that's also at

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Speaker 1: the bottom of the league. And here's the other thing

831
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Speaker 1: that you got to be careful of. Not that this

832
00:38:13,680 --> 00:38:17,640
Speaker 1: has been a trend, but New England scored two touchdowns

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00:38:17,680 --> 00:38:19,920
Speaker 1: that had nothing to do with their offense. John Okay,

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00:38:19,920 --> 00:38:22,440
Speaker 1: they had a special teams touchdown and they had a

835
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Speaker 1: defensive score. Now the Giants also had a defensive score.

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Speaker 1: But that's another way that you can easily lose games

837
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Speaker 1: where you allow other facets of the opponents teams to

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Speaker 1: find a way to get into the end zone. Just

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Speaker 1: to get people on idea, here's the bottom of the

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Speaker 1: net differential and turnovers this year. Miami minus nine, Giants

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Speaker 1: minus seven, Cleveland minus six, Jaguars minus five, Falcons minus five,

842
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Speaker 1: Bengals minus five. All those teams four or worse. There

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00:38:52,000 --> 00:38:55,560
Speaker 1: you go, okay, and keep going. Chargers minus four, they're struggling.

844
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Speaker 1: Dallas minus three, they've lost three in a row, Rams

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00:38:58,320 --> 00:39:00,839
Speaker 1: minus three. They haven't played the as football this year.

846
00:39:00,840 --> 00:39:02,279
Speaker 1: And then you're the Bills at minus three. But their

847
00:39:02,280 --> 00:39:04,200
Speaker 1: defense is so good they make up for it. So

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00:39:04,520 --> 00:39:06,160
Speaker 1: if you turn the ball over a line, you don't

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Speaker 1: get takeaways, and you have been that big time minus

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Speaker 1: differential category, you're just not gonna win well. And just

851
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Speaker 1: as it means of comparison, now read the top of

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00:39:12,960 --> 00:39:17,400
Speaker 1: the list. New England plus nine, Pittsburgh plus seven and

853
00:39:17,440 --> 00:39:20,359
Speaker 1: playing better football right now, right last week last night,

854
00:39:20,360 --> 00:39:21,640
Speaker 1: I think that probably helped them a lot in that

855
00:39:21,760 --> 00:39:25,359
Speaker 1: plus side, right Green Bay plus seven, Carolina plus six,

856
00:39:25,400 --> 00:39:28,040
Speaker 1: Seattle plus six, Chicago plus six. So they go. Those

857
00:39:28,040 --> 00:39:31,520
Speaker 1: are all good teams exactly about synonymous with wins and

858
00:39:31,600 --> 00:39:34,439
Speaker 1: losses two one nine, three nine four five on three

859
00:39:34,480 --> 00:39:36,640
Speaker 1: two oh one nine three nine four five one three.

860
00:39:36,760 --> 00:39:39,040
Speaker 1: Let's go to Dave and Cranford. He's up next day, Dave,

861
00:39:40,160 --> 00:39:41,960
Speaker 1: How are you doing? John? How you doing? Lands were great?

862
00:39:42,000 --> 00:39:45,960
Speaker 1: Dave's good. Hey, guys, Um always great talking with both

863
00:39:45,960 --> 00:39:47,480
Speaker 1: of you. And when I see you on the line.

864
00:39:47,520 --> 00:39:49,719
Speaker 1: I definitely always want to get in. I appreciate kind

865
00:39:49,719 --> 00:39:52,440
Speaker 1: of get your get your thoughts. I think to two

866
00:39:52,440 --> 00:39:54,560
Speaker 1: different things. One is one Daniel Jones. You guys have

867
00:39:54,640 --> 00:39:57,000
Speaker 1: kind of hit it. I think the thing that I'm

868
00:39:57,080 --> 00:40:02,000
Speaker 1: most UM optimistic about UM. I actually heard it from

869
00:40:02,120 --> 00:40:06,240
Speaker 1: Troy Aikman, which was interesting on the telecast last Thursday,

870
00:40:06,360 --> 00:40:10,560
Speaker 1: the things that he does UM poorly versus the things

871
00:40:10,560 --> 00:40:13,640
Speaker 1: that he does well. And and I think when you're

872
00:40:13,680 --> 00:40:17,200
Speaker 1: trying to project the quarterback, you know, the things that

873
00:40:17,200 --> 00:40:20,160
Speaker 1: that he does poorly, for those that watch the position

874
00:40:20,200 --> 00:40:23,040
Speaker 1: and coach the position and know the position, they see

875
00:40:23,080 --> 00:40:26,520
Speaker 1: them as many things that can be fixed, to be fixed,

876
00:40:26,960 --> 00:40:29,880
Speaker 1: but they can they can be fixed. And and I

877
00:40:29,960 --> 00:40:33,600
Speaker 1: think the optimistic side is that the things that you

878
00:40:33,640 --> 00:40:38,719
Speaker 1: see in quarterbacks that tend to struggle and and and

879
00:40:38,800 --> 00:40:41,319
Speaker 1: even though they may be great as a runner, or

880
00:40:41,360 --> 00:40:43,880
Speaker 1: they might be have a great strong arm or whatever else.

881
00:40:44,360 --> 00:40:47,760
Speaker 1: You know, Daniel Jones, you know he's accurate, and he

882
00:40:47,760 --> 00:40:51,360
Speaker 1: he has a lot of the other things that UM

883
00:40:51,480 --> 00:40:56,640
Speaker 1: that I think are harder to teach UM demeanor, calmness,

884
00:40:56,680 --> 00:40:59,080
Speaker 1: you know, toughness, you know, even the even the way

885
00:40:59,080 --> 00:41:01,680
Speaker 1: that he's been holding the ball and taking hits. I mean,

886
00:41:01,880 --> 00:41:04,520
Speaker 1: he definitely needs to clean up his internal clock, but

887
00:41:05,400 --> 00:41:07,400
Speaker 1: it's a lot better to be able to teach a

888
00:41:07,480 --> 00:41:10,640
Speaker 1: quarterback who's really tough how to do that to kind

889
00:41:10,680 --> 00:41:15,920
Speaker 1: of survive someone the opposite David. It's funny. Daniel Jeremiah

890
00:41:16,000 --> 00:41:18,640
Speaker 1: made this exact point on on the John Subtle podcast

891
00:41:18,640 --> 00:41:20,799
Speaker 1: when I talked to him, and he said he's had

892
00:41:20,880 --> 00:41:23,600
Speaker 1: quarterbacks that have gone both ways, and he finds it

893
00:41:23,640 --> 00:41:28,240
Speaker 1: a lot easier to rein in a quarterback that's always

894
00:41:28,280 --> 00:41:30,560
Speaker 1: trying to make big plays and maybe be a little

895
00:41:30,600 --> 00:41:33,520
Speaker 1: bit more aggressive, which might result in some turnovers. You know,

896
00:41:33,600 --> 00:41:35,360
Speaker 1: remember he had to fit the ball into small spots

897
00:41:35,360 --> 00:41:37,440
Speaker 1: to duke all the time because of the competition difference.

898
00:41:37,480 --> 00:41:39,880
Speaker 1: So he's doing that here and that's turning into some picks.

899
00:41:40,160 --> 00:41:42,880
Speaker 1: He said to me that in his scouting background when

900
00:41:42,920 --> 00:41:44,279
Speaker 1: he when he was with the Ravens, it was a

901
00:41:44,280 --> 00:41:46,839
Speaker 1: lot easier to take a guy that's willing to take

902
00:41:46,880 --> 00:41:49,319
Speaker 1: those chances and rein them in than to take a

903
00:41:49,320 --> 00:41:52,200
Speaker 1: guy that's ultra conservative, doesn't want to take any chances

904
00:41:52,520 --> 00:41:54,560
Speaker 1: and to get them to be more aggressive. It's a

905
00:41:54,640 --> 00:41:56,839
Speaker 1: lot easier to rein a guy in than to try

906
00:41:56,880 --> 00:41:59,440
Speaker 1: to push somebody that, by nature doesn't want to take

907
00:41:59,480 --> 00:42:00,920
Speaker 1: those chances. So I'm with you. I think some of

908
00:42:00,920 --> 00:42:02,719
Speaker 1: the stuff he's not good at, you can't correct it.

909
00:42:03,120 --> 00:42:06,200
Speaker 1: Other stuff, you know, the stuff that he is good at,

910
00:42:06,200 --> 00:42:08,200
Speaker 1: his stuff that's almost in eight and it's very hard

911
00:42:08,239 --> 00:42:10,120
Speaker 1: to teach. So I think he makes some good points.

912
00:42:10,160 --> 00:42:14,879
Speaker 1: I'm with you, Thanks, Lance, and I guess you guys, John, Sorry, John,

913
00:42:14,920 --> 00:42:19,000
Speaker 1: and uh I on a global level about the league,

914
00:42:19,080 --> 00:42:21,759
Speaker 1: I just and you kind of saw it yesterday. I mean,

915
00:42:22,040 --> 00:42:24,319
Speaker 1: I was as shocked as anybody watching the Jet game.

916
00:42:24,360 --> 00:42:26,759
Speaker 1: I was really happy for Sam Donald. Not a fan,

917
00:42:26,880 --> 00:42:29,640
Speaker 1: but but happy for him and just and and how

918
00:42:29,680 --> 00:42:31,800
Speaker 1: he played, and happy they never got hurt. He's a

919
00:42:31,800 --> 00:42:34,319
Speaker 1: good player, man, He's a good player. He is a

920
00:42:34,320 --> 00:42:36,000
Speaker 1: good player, and he seems like a good kid. But

921
00:42:36,360 --> 00:42:38,399
Speaker 1: at the end of the day, I think the thing

922
00:42:38,440 --> 00:42:42,439
Speaker 1: that's fascinating to me is watching the expectations. Right now,

923
00:42:42,560 --> 00:42:45,560
Speaker 1: it's only week six, but you start to get a

924
00:42:45,600 --> 00:42:48,200
Speaker 1: better color of what's going on in the league, and

925
00:42:48,239 --> 00:42:51,360
Speaker 1: it's fastening to me to watch fan bases, the media

926
00:42:51,960 --> 00:42:55,759
Speaker 1: and even you know, the coaches and teams that you

927
00:42:55,760 --> 00:42:58,600
Speaker 1: know you've got a team like Dallas in particular, and

928
00:42:58,640 --> 00:43:00,840
Speaker 1: I think you could grow the Eagles in, which is

929
00:43:00,840 --> 00:43:03,359
Speaker 1: gonna make it a fascinating game this week. I think

930
00:43:03,400 --> 00:43:05,919
Speaker 1: you can throw the Rams in there. Um. I think

931
00:43:05,920 --> 00:43:08,680
Speaker 1: the Browns based on their preseason, I think they're part

932
00:43:08,680 --> 00:43:11,840
Speaker 1: of this group. But you it's it's so interesting to

933
00:43:11,920 --> 00:43:14,560
Speaker 1: me when you look at the Giants right now, if

934
00:43:14,600 --> 00:43:16,920
Speaker 1: you're honest, you look at this team and you say, hey,

935
00:43:16,960 --> 00:43:19,839
Speaker 1: there's a lot of really good building blocks, but there's

936
00:43:19,840 --> 00:43:22,680
Speaker 1: still a lot of holes. We need another draft or two,

937
00:43:22,960 --> 00:43:25,080
Speaker 1: we need some good free agents. We've got things we've

938
00:43:25,120 --> 00:43:28,480
Speaker 1: gonna fill. And and when when we do that, that

939
00:43:28,680 --> 00:43:32,040
Speaker 1: the expectations are going to change as to, hey, this

940
00:43:32,120 --> 00:43:34,120
Speaker 1: is our this is the team we're going to war with.

941
00:43:34,640 --> 00:43:38,000
Speaker 1: Dallas is in a situation right now where this is

942
00:43:38,080 --> 00:43:40,160
Speaker 1: the team they're going to war with. I mean, they're

943
00:43:40,160 --> 00:43:43,799
Speaker 1: spending the money on these players and when they have

944
00:43:44,080 --> 00:43:48,200
Speaker 1: losses and the type of losses that they have, and

945
00:43:48,200 --> 00:43:50,160
Speaker 1: and by the way, the Eagles the same way, and

946
00:43:50,200 --> 00:43:53,040
Speaker 1: the Rams, you know, I think are in the same boat.

947
00:43:53,520 --> 00:43:56,600
Speaker 1: I would even say Kansas City as great as Mahomes is,

948
00:43:56,640 --> 00:43:59,640
Speaker 1: which is awesome. If their defense doesn't get fixed. I

949
00:43:59,640 --> 00:44:01,799
Speaker 1: think a lot of people are gonna be concerned that

950
00:44:01,880 --> 00:44:04,000
Speaker 1: you're gonna be able to scheme your way around them.

951
00:44:04,000 --> 00:44:07,439
Speaker 1: So it's just an expectation question on the on the league.

952
00:44:07,440 --> 00:44:10,000
Speaker 1: And I know you guys not only follow the Giants

953
00:44:10,000 --> 00:44:12,520
Speaker 1: really well, but you guys are are great on the league.

954
00:44:12,520 --> 00:44:15,120
Speaker 1: I just love to get your the difference where you

955
00:44:15,120 --> 00:44:17,680
Speaker 1: can have the same record, but a record of a

956
00:44:17,680 --> 00:44:20,120
Speaker 1: team that is expected to win and thinks that they've

957
00:44:20,160 --> 00:44:22,239
Speaker 1: got their team next to the record of a team.

958
00:44:22,280 --> 00:44:24,439
Speaker 1: So as you look at the Giants right now, of course, yeah,

959
00:44:24,440 --> 00:44:26,680
Speaker 1: we're one game back. It's a different view from the

960
00:44:26,680 --> 00:44:29,239
Speaker 1: fan base, just on those expectations. Now, Dave, we're worth

961
00:44:29,239 --> 00:44:30,960
Speaker 1: you and and and thanks a lot for the call.

962
00:44:31,040 --> 00:44:34,000
Speaker 1: You're sitting there your Dallas coming off you know, ten

963
00:44:34,040 --> 00:44:36,239
Speaker 1: and six season, you win the division, you have much

964
00:44:36,239 --> 00:44:39,239
Speaker 1: different expectations. And a team that was five and eleven

965
00:44:39,280 --> 00:44:41,480
Speaker 1: the previous year and one roster has is more veteran.

966
00:44:41,480 --> 00:44:43,080
Speaker 1: They brought back a lot of the players. The Giants

967
00:44:43,120 --> 00:44:45,120
Speaker 1: were still in the process of overturning their roster a

968
00:44:45,160 --> 00:44:48,160
Speaker 1: little bit. So yeah, expectations are different. I don't think

969
00:44:48,360 --> 00:44:50,600
Speaker 1: coaches or general managers looking at it that way. I

970
00:44:50,600 --> 00:44:52,720
Speaker 1: don't think they give a damn about that sort of stuff.

971
00:44:52,760 --> 00:44:55,000
Speaker 1: But from the outside looking in from a fan base,

972
00:44:55,000 --> 00:44:57,439
Speaker 1: and now people react to me. Sure. Yeah. The reason

973
00:44:57,480 --> 00:44:59,719
Speaker 1: why gms and coaches don't look at it that way

974
00:44:59,760 --> 00:45:03,040
Speaker 1: be because nothing's guaranteed. If you finished ten and six,

975
00:45:03,520 --> 00:45:06,560
Speaker 1: you don't start with seven wins to begin the following

976
00:45:06,560 --> 00:45:08,560
Speaker 1: season and you just gotta win three or four games.

977
00:45:08,560 --> 00:45:10,359
Speaker 1: So and after the year, if you have a poor

978
00:45:10,440 --> 00:45:12,960
Speaker 1: year and your owner calls in to you to explain yourself,

979
00:45:12,960 --> 00:45:14,520
Speaker 1: you don't say, oh no, and expected us to be

980
00:45:14,560 --> 00:45:18,000
Speaker 1: good anyway. Yeah, you can't use that rational That's not

981
00:45:18,040 --> 00:45:21,040
Speaker 1: gonna buy you a contract extension. I'll guarantee you that.

982
00:45:21,120 --> 00:45:25,600
Speaker 1: But I do think Dave brings up a good point. Consistency, though,

983
00:45:25,840 --> 00:45:29,320
Speaker 1: is what frames expectations, and a lot of the teams

984
00:45:29,360 --> 00:45:32,480
Speaker 1: that he threw out have consistently been in the playoff

985
00:45:32,560 --> 00:45:34,759
Speaker 1: hunt for the last few season. The Cowboys, Eagles, in

986
00:45:34,800 --> 00:45:37,160
Speaker 1: the Rams, and the Chiefs are four teams that have

987
00:45:37,239 --> 00:45:39,880
Speaker 1: been in the thickest things over the last few seasons.

988
00:45:39,880 --> 00:45:42,480
Speaker 1: Since Sean McVeigh took over the Rams, They've been a

989
00:45:42,480 --> 00:45:45,319
Speaker 1: competitive team. Dallas has won three of the last five

990
00:45:45,360 --> 00:45:48,680
Speaker 1: division titles. The Eagles have been a Super Bowl champ

991
00:45:48,719 --> 00:45:50,920
Speaker 1: and they've also been in the wild card hunt and

992
00:45:50,960 --> 00:45:55,000
Speaker 1: then of course Kansas City since Alex Smith even was there,

993
00:45:55,040 --> 00:45:58,520
Speaker 1: they were a consistent playoff four. So very different outlook

994
00:45:58,600 --> 00:46:00,840
Speaker 1: for those teams versus that John alliance. And to me,

995
00:46:00,920 --> 00:46:02,920
Speaker 1: it's not so much about the makeup of the roster

996
00:46:03,040 --> 00:46:05,399
Speaker 1: this year. It's more of what they've been doing over

997
00:46:05,400 --> 00:46:07,960
Speaker 1: the last three or four years. But you know, this

998
00:46:08,040 --> 00:46:11,600
Speaker 1: is also important to note, and it just goes to

999
00:46:11,600 --> 00:46:13,759
Speaker 1: show you what we started off with, John, how it's

1000
00:46:13,760 --> 00:46:16,320
Speaker 1: a week to week league and why I hate strength

1001
00:46:16,320 --> 00:46:18,400
Speaker 1: of schedule and I hate when people sit down at

1002
00:46:18,440 --> 00:46:20,840
Speaker 1: the beginning of the season. That's a win, that's a loss,

1003
00:46:21,040 --> 00:46:23,360
Speaker 1: that's a win, that's a loss. If you would have

1004
00:46:23,400 --> 00:46:25,560
Speaker 1: told me, John, that the Jets were gonna play the

1005
00:46:25,600 --> 00:46:27,759
Speaker 1: Cowboys in Week six and the Cowboys are gonna be

1006
00:46:27,800 --> 00:46:30,400
Speaker 1: without Lyle Collins and Tyrone Smith and Mari Cooper and

1007
00:46:30,480 --> 00:46:33,200
Speaker 1: Randall Cobb, yeah, my outlook of that game probably would

1008
00:46:33,239 --> 00:46:35,359
Speaker 1: be much different than what it would have been at

1009
00:46:35,360 --> 00:46:37,120
Speaker 1: the beginning of the season. If you would have told

1010
00:46:37,160 --> 00:46:39,799
Speaker 1: me Dallas would have been fully healthy and going up

1011
00:46:39,800 --> 00:46:42,560
Speaker 1: against the Jets team that was very much up and down.

1012
00:46:42,640 --> 00:46:44,600
Speaker 1: And yes they were getting their quarterback back who was

1013
00:46:44,640 --> 00:46:46,560
Speaker 1: out a few weeks with Mono, but they still had

1014
00:46:46,560 --> 00:46:50,200
Speaker 1: a lot of questions. I think that completely changes the conversation.

1015
00:46:50,440 --> 00:46:52,759
Speaker 1: I also think what changes the conversation with a team

1016
00:46:52,800 --> 00:46:55,400
Speaker 1: like Kansas City where you have them coming off a

1017
00:46:55,480 --> 00:46:58,799
Speaker 1: loss against the Indianapolis Colts. That sort of provided somewhat

1018
00:46:58,840 --> 00:47:01,440
Speaker 1: of a blueprint. Okay, do you slow down Kansas City,

1019
00:47:01,800 --> 00:47:04,640
Speaker 1: You win the time of possession battle, you wear down

1020
00:47:04,640 --> 00:47:06,920
Speaker 1: the defense, you run the ball, and you keep Kansas

1021
00:47:06,960 --> 00:47:09,680
Speaker 1: City on the field. And I think that gave Houston,

1022
00:47:09,840 --> 00:47:13,160
Speaker 1: even though Euston as a different personnel, and idea of Hey,

1023
00:47:13,200 --> 00:47:16,879
Speaker 1: this is maybe how we need to tackle and view

1024
00:47:16,960 --> 00:47:20,120
Speaker 1: the matchup with the Kansas City Chiefs the Rams. It's

1025
00:47:20,160 --> 00:47:22,160
Speaker 1: the same thing. You know, the Rams have been now

1026
00:47:22,200 --> 00:47:25,440
Speaker 1: in a few games where teams have had success stopping

1027
00:47:25,480 --> 00:47:28,120
Speaker 1: them or even getting the better of their defense. And

1028
00:47:28,160 --> 00:47:31,560
Speaker 1: I think that gave San Francisco something on film to

1029
00:47:31,719 --> 00:47:35,440
Speaker 1: look at. So that's why the conversation about a team

1030
00:47:35,840 --> 00:47:39,360
Speaker 1: back in September, when you're previewing the season, you're looking

1031
00:47:39,400 --> 00:47:41,600
Speaker 1: at the roster. You're looking at the paper test now,

1032
00:47:41,680 --> 00:47:44,840
Speaker 1: you give teams film, you take personnel out of the

1033
00:47:44,840 --> 00:47:48,520
Speaker 1: equation because of injuries. It completely changes the dynamics of

1034
00:47:48,600 --> 00:47:51,080
Speaker 1: games weekend and week out. And I think that pertains

1035
00:47:51,120 --> 00:47:53,560
Speaker 1: to the four teams that the caller was referencing, because

1036
00:47:53,600 --> 00:47:56,760
Speaker 1: a lot has changed within those four teams right now, Scott,

1037
00:47:56,800 --> 00:48:01,440
Speaker 1: New Mexico is up next day. Scott, Hi, guys, I

1038
00:48:01,480 --> 00:48:03,320
Speaker 1: want to thank you both. You stole my thunder on

1039
00:48:03,400 --> 00:48:05,520
Speaker 1: both points. I was going to make well good talking

1040
00:48:05,520 --> 00:48:08,080
Speaker 1: to you, Scott. We'll speak to you next week. Hang

1041
00:48:08,200 --> 00:48:09,960
Speaker 1: up now, because I was going to talk about time

1042
00:48:10,000 --> 00:48:13,440
Speaker 1: of differential and obviously you've already addressed the still won't

1043
00:48:13,480 --> 00:48:15,719
Speaker 1: go into it again. And also I was going to

1044
00:48:15,800 --> 00:48:18,919
Speaker 1: talk about but before I get to my next point,

1045
00:48:18,920 --> 00:48:21,000
Speaker 1: I wanted to have to go go on the time of differential.

1046
00:48:21,960 --> 00:48:25,520
Speaker 1: Is there a way that schematically you can change certain

1047
00:48:25,560 --> 00:48:28,960
Speaker 1: things to eliminate some of that. I don't mean simply

1048
00:48:29,000 --> 00:48:32,319
Speaker 1: just fumble less and the lesson in perceptions, but from

1049
00:48:32,320 --> 00:48:35,359
Speaker 1: a schematic point of view, is there a way where,

1050
00:48:35,400 --> 00:48:38,840
Speaker 1: for example, Pat Hermots and go to to Daniel Jones

1051
00:48:38,840 --> 00:48:41,279
Speaker 1: and say, after say three Mississippi or whatever he has

1052
00:48:41,320 --> 00:48:43,440
Speaker 1: in his head. Just get rid of the ball, period.

1053
00:48:44,040 --> 00:48:45,960
Speaker 1: And it doesn't matter whether you're hoping to get a play,

1054
00:48:45,960 --> 00:48:48,239
Speaker 1: because all quarterbacks want to hold onto the ball to

1055
00:48:48,280 --> 00:48:51,520
Speaker 1: try to find an open receiver. Yeah you can, you can, Scott,

1056
00:48:51,560 --> 00:48:53,480
Speaker 1: but then you're taking away maybe some of his strengths

1057
00:48:53,480 --> 00:48:55,160
Speaker 1: of trying to get the ball down the field. He'll

1058
00:48:55,200 --> 00:48:57,120
Speaker 1: become more of like a kind of a checkdown Charlie.

1059
00:48:57,160 --> 00:48:58,680
Speaker 1: And I'm not sure you want to do that to him.

1060
00:48:58,719 --> 00:49:01,160
Speaker 1: I think, okay, I think you want to put him

1061
00:49:01,200 --> 00:49:03,160
Speaker 1: out there and let him make those mistakes. And I

1062
00:49:03,160 --> 00:49:05,520
Speaker 1: think until quarterback goes into games and makes these types

1063
00:49:05,560 --> 00:49:07,680
Speaker 1: of mistakes, they're not gonna get better. So while they

1064
00:49:07,719 --> 00:49:11,080
Speaker 1: might be frustrating, now, you know, these interceptions are part

1065
00:49:11,080 --> 00:49:13,520
Speaker 1: of a learning process. And as he makes these mistakes

1066
00:49:13,520 --> 00:49:16,720
Speaker 1: and has these turnovers. You know, one thing that we've

1067
00:49:16,719 --> 00:49:20,400
Speaker 1: heard about Jones, universally praised about him has been the

1068
00:49:20,400 --> 00:49:22,520
Speaker 1: fact that he doesn't repeat mistakes. So we'll see in

1069
00:49:22,520 --> 00:49:24,520
Speaker 1: four or five weeks if he's still making these same mistakes,

1070
00:49:24,520 --> 00:49:26,399
Speaker 1: then yeah, then we then you have a conversation about

1071
00:49:26,440 --> 00:49:28,640
Speaker 1: how you might have to adjust the game plan and

1072
00:49:28,719 --> 00:49:31,080
Speaker 1: maybe a little bit, but for now. The guys made

1073
00:49:31,080 --> 00:49:35,000
Speaker 1: only a few NFL starts. Let him figure this out,

1074
00:49:35,040 --> 00:49:37,000
Speaker 1: and there's gonna be some growing pains along the way.

1075
00:49:37,040 --> 00:49:41,560
Speaker 1: And that's fine, okay. Um My next point it has

1076
00:49:41,600 --> 00:49:43,360
Speaker 1: to do with what Lance which is talking about it,

1077
00:49:43,760 --> 00:49:45,800
Speaker 1: because this is such a game of attrition. If you

1078
00:49:45,840 --> 00:49:47,600
Speaker 1: looked at the Dallas game, that will mist in both

1079
00:49:47,600 --> 00:49:51,439
Speaker 1: tackles tomorrow, Cooker was out. You look at Philadelphia and

1080
00:49:51,480 --> 00:49:54,440
Speaker 1: they lost Peters yesterday. They don't have to shoot on

1081
00:49:54,560 --> 00:50:00,680
Speaker 1: Jackson computers her And so I'm wondering, if it really

1082
00:50:00,680 --> 00:50:03,720
Speaker 1: comes down to injuries, which it seems to do throughout

1083
00:50:03,800 --> 00:50:07,040
Speaker 1: the league, whoever strongest that the end really has the

1084
00:50:07,120 --> 00:50:10,040
Speaker 1: upper hand, because to your point, Land, it really is

1085
00:50:10,160 --> 00:50:12,719
Speaker 1: maybe a one play here or one player there that

1086
00:50:12,840 --> 00:50:14,480
Speaker 1: really can make the difference in the game. And it

1087
00:50:14,520 --> 00:50:16,799
Speaker 1: was proven an annoyingling game with the you know, the

1088
00:50:16,840 --> 00:50:21,319
Speaker 1: block punt. So I'm just wondering, since games come down

1089
00:50:21,360 --> 00:50:24,640
Speaker 1: to maybe one player or two plays, is injury really

1090
00:50:24,719 --> 00:50:28,319
Speaker 1: the thing that's most disconcerting. And to that point, and

1091
00:50:28,480 --> 00:50:31,120
Speaker 1: I'll take this answer off the air, I'm a little

1092
00:50:31,160 --> 00:50:34,879
Speaker 1: concerned about Sterling Shepherd because I don't know if you've

1093
00:50:34,880 --> 00:50:37,880
Speaker 1: heard that Jordan read his career might be over because

1094
00:50:37,920 --> 00:50:41,760
Speaker 1: of the concussions that he suffered, And I'm just wondering

1095
00:50:41,840 --> 00:50:45,279
Speaker 1: how serious the injury is with the sterling Shepherd and

1096
00:50:45,320 --> 00:50:48,120
Speaker 1: compline if you think it's going to be long term

1097
00:50:48,120 --> 00:50:52,600
Speaker 1: as opposed to struction, thank you. Concussions are different for

1098
00:50:52,640 --> 00:50:54,439
Speaker 1: every player. Obviously, if you have two in a short

1099
00:50:54,480 --> 00:50:56,799
Speaker 1: period of time, you worry about it. They'll put him

1100
00:50:56,840 --> 00:50:59,000
Speaker 1: through all the test, They'll let the medical professionals handle that,

1101
00:50:59,000 --> 00:51:01,560
Speaker 1: they let the NFL in the alogists handle all that.

1102
00:51:01,640 --> 00:51:04,080
Speaker 1: They'll go through the protocol, and they will make sure

1103
00:51:04,200 --> 00:51:06,800
Speaker 1: that he will not come back and play until he's ready.

1104
00:51:07,000 --> 00:51:10,279
Speaker 1: And if we can't really speculate more than that, Pat

1105
00:51:10,320 --> 00:51:12,400
Speaker 1: Schurmer really don't know how to talk about it. He

1106
00:51:12,440 --> 00:51:14,000
Speaker 1: was asked a lot about that day. He can't talk

1107
00:51:14,000 --> 00:51:15,839
Speaker 1: about it, so we're certainly not going to talk about it.

1108
00:51:16,080 --> 00:51:18,880
Speaker 1: They'll do all the proper precautions and make him do

1109
00:51:18,920 --> 00:51:21,279
Speaker 1: all goal through the test and the protocol that the

1110
00:51:21,360 --> 00:51:23,960
Speaker 1: NFL is set forth to make sure these guys, you know,

1111
00:51:24,160 --> 00:51:26,560
Speaker 1: are safe in the way they play the game, and

1112
00:51:26,600 --> 00:51:28,279
Speaker 1: we'll see how what turns out. I really can't say

1113
00:51:28,400 --> 00:51:31,879
Speaker 1: much more abad than that it's also a privacy matter

1114
00:51:31,920 --> 00:51:34,040
Speaker 1: too for players. So you know, that's why you have

1115
00:51:34,080 --> 00:51:36,000
Speaker 1: to walk a fine line when you're a head coach.

1116
00:51:36,320 --> 00:51:39,759
Speaker 1: With Jordans Reid, who Scott brought up as a comparison,

1117
00:51:39,840 --> 00:51:42,680
Speaker 1: and yes, Jordan Reid has had to deal with numerous concussions.

1118
00:51:42,680 --> 00:51:44,600
Speaker 1: Were talking about the Redskins tight end, of course, who

1119
00:51:44,680 --> 00:51:47,480
Speaker 1: was just placed on season ending i R. Keep in mind,

1120
00:51:47,520 --> 00:51:51,359
Speaker 1: though Jordan Reid has been plagued by multiple injuries during

1121
00:51:51,400 --> 00:51:54,680
Speaker 1: the course of his career. He's had knee issues, hit issues.

1122
00:51:55,120 --> 00:51:57,480
Speaker 1: I mean I even posted this on Twitter. He's on

1123
00:51:57,600 --> 00:52:01,680
Speaker 1: i R for each of the last three years, four

1124
00:52:01,719 --> 00:52:03,839
Speaker 1: out of seven years in the league. It has been

1125
00:52:03,880 --> 00:52:07,640
Speaker 1: a far more continuous trend with Jordan Read than I

1126
00:52:07,680 --> 00:52:11,160
Speaker 1: think any concern with respect to Sterling Shepherd now piggybacking

1127
00:52:11,160 --> 00:52:13,719
Speaker 1: off of John's point, I'm not here to speculate about

1128
00:52:13,760 --> 00:52:15,640
Speaker 1: when he's gonna come back, what the outlook is for

1129
00:52:15,760 --> 00:52:18,480
Speaker 1: this season. But I just don't think Jordan Read John

1130
00:52:18,680 --> 00:52:21,279
Speaker 1: is somebody that I would throw into the same conversation

1131
00:52:21,280 --> 00:52:24,920
Speaker 1: with Sterling Shepherd, because Read, unfortunately has just been sideline

1132
00:52:25,040 --> 00:52:27,879
Speaker 1: year after year. Shepherd, yes, says he had to deal

1133
00:52:27,920 --> 00:52:31,640
Speaker 1: with injuries absolutely, but he was playing very well. It's

1134
00:52:31,680 --> 00:52:35,760
Speaker 1: unfortunate when you have somebody's sideline via concussion, and hopefully

1135
00:52:35,840 --> 00:52:38,359
Speaker 1: he'll be back on the field sooner rather than later.

1136
00:52:38,400 --> 00:52:41,000
Speaker 1: But you know, just in a generic sense, remember concussions

1137
00:52:41,000 --> 00:52:42,759
Speaker 1: are a serious thing. It's a big part of the

1138
00:52:42,840 --> 00:52:45,799
Speaker 1: NFL dialogue. Every player is different. You know, no one,

1139
00:52:46,000 --> 00:52:49,000
Speaker 1: whether they're associated with the team or an independent doctor,

1140
00:52:49,400 --> 00:52:52,400
Speaker 1: is going to dismiss it because they know that obviously

1141
00:52:52,440 --> 00:52:54,800
Speaker 1: there are consequences as a result of this. So Sterling

1142
00:52:54,840 --> 00:52:57,080
Speaker 1: Shepherd is gonna go through the process like every other player.

1143
00:52:57,120 --> 00:52:59,680
Speaker 1: There's no shortcuts in this process. Some of these things,

1144
00:52:59,760 --> 00:53:01,480
Speaker 1: john are also out of the hands of the Giants

1145
00:53:01,520 --> 00:53:04,800
Speaker 1: because the independent doctors that are involved in this process,

1146
00:53:04,840 --> 00:53:07,480
Speaker 1: which the NFL brought in, was for that very reason

1147
00:53:07,719 --> 00:53:09,920
Speaker 1: to take it out of the team's control. So you know,

1148
00:53:09,920 --> 00:53:12,400
Speaker 1: when you ask about you know what's gonna happen. I

1149
00:53:12,440 --> 00:53:14,719
Speaker 1: think the Giants also need to see how things play

1150
00:53:14,719 --> 00:53:17,920
Speaker 1: out based on individuals that have no association with the

1151
00:53:17,960 --> 00:53:19,719
Speaker 1: team too. All right, let's wrap it up with our

1152
00:53:19,719 --> 00:53:26,239
Speaker 1: final call, Alex down in Dallas. Alex, what's up? So com?

1153
00:53:26,360 --> 00:53:30,319
Speaker 1: Caller from Dallas awesome. So so alex Is is a

1154
00:53:30,360 --> 00:53:34,520
Speaker 1: complete panic time down there for Cowboy fans. Uh. Yeah,

1155
00:53:34,600 --> 00:53:36,600
Speaker 1: I was listening on the radio. I'm actually all the

1156
00:53:36,600 --> 00:53:38,319
Speaker 1: way to Austin them work, But yeah, I was listing

1157
00:53:38,360 --> 00:53:41,239
Speaker 1: on the radio and they're digging into the Cowboys. Uh,

1158
00:53:42,040 --> 00:53:45,120
Speaker 1: they're talking of all kinds of Steven Jones. I think

1159
00:53:45,200 --> 00:53:48,759
Speaker 1: I'm talking about firing Jason here is in here and

1160
00:53:48,800 --> 00:53:54,239
Speaker 1: make me for a happy Sunday. Let's go down here.

1161
00:53:54,320 --> 00:53:57,279
Speaker 1: But yeah, I was just a long time Giant fan

1162
00:53:57,480 --> 00:54:01,280
Speaker 1: originally from Framont, New Jersey, and here I was younger, loving,

1163
00:54:01,360 --> 00:54:03,640
Speaker 1: stuck going to Dallas game. Last time my wife was

1164
00:54:04,360 --> 00:54:10,040
Speaker 1: JPP blocked that field goal. So love the show, awesome.

1165
00:54:10,080 --> 00:54:12,560
Speaker 1: I just started to paying attention this year, so I'm

1166
00:54:12,560 --> 00:54:15,320
Speaker 1: not as long Tenures and some of the other guys,

1167
00:54:15,360 --> 00:54:17,520
Speaker 1: but I love what you gotta do. Thank you, thank

1168
00:54:17,560 --> 00:54:20,360
Speaker 1: you tuning in, Yeah for sure. So I had a

1169
00:54:20,400 --> 00:54:23,879
Speaker 1: couple of questions, um in terms of like rotational wise,

1170
00:54:24,040 --> 00:54:26,920
Speaker 1: because I know Carter was injured with the neck injury

1171
00:54:26,920 --> 00:54:29,480
Speaker 1: and he's back in the mix. Uh. I was wondering

1172
00:54:29,520 --> 00:54:32,279
Speaker 1: if you guys having to note with some Zeminez and

1173
00:54:32,480 --> 00:54:36,640
Speaker 1: Carter and Golden what's the rotation looking like in between those?

1174
00:54:36,760 --> 00:54:40,439
Speaker 1: Is one getting a little bit more time than the others? Um? Yeah,

1175
00:54:40,440 --> 00:54:42,640
Speaker 1: well I can say a real quick Alex Golden. Golden

1176
00:54:42,640 --> 00:54:45,040
Speaker 1: plays the most snaps pretty consistently in that group. He

1177
00:54:45,080 --> 00:54:48,920
Speaker 1: played seventy against the Patriots. Ziminez played sixty three percent

1178
00:54:49,000 --> 00:54:51,680
Speaker 1: of the snaps and Carter played six of the snaps.

1179
00:54:51,719 --> 00:54:55,080
Speaker 1: So that is a pretty even distribution between those three

1180
00:54:55,080 --> 00:54:59,520
Speaker 1: guys of those pass rusher snaps. O LOOKO alright awesome? Yeah,

1181
00:54:59,520 --> 00:55:03,200
Speaker 1: because that shack fumble from Carter was pretty awesome, and

1182
00:55:03,239 --> 00:55:05,640
Speaker 1: I liked the little piece that he said that what

1183
00:55:06,080 --> 00:55:08,759
Speaker 1: was on his bucket list was get Tom Brady down,

1184
00:55:08,800 --> 00:55:11,239
Speaker 1: and I was pretty cool. Um. And then the last

1185
00:55:11,320 --> 00:55:13,360
Speaker 1: question I had for you guys is we're getting closer

1186
00:55:13,360 --> 00:55:16,000
Speaker 1: to the bye week. Um. I know it was kind

1187
00:55:16,000 --> 00:55:18,359
Speaker 1: of this hard NBC that Sami will go down with

1188
00:55:18,400 --> 00:55:20,920
Speaker 1: the hamstring in drink it butt on. I R was

1189
00:55:20,960 --> 00:55:24,319
Speaker 1: that more because they just felt like he was gonna

1190
00:55:24,360 --> 00:55:26,600
Speaker 1: be like a long time. They just didn't feel like

1191
00:55:26,640 --> 00:55:29,440
Speaker 1: he'd be ready for the roster or I mean, I

1192
00:55:29,640 --> 00:55:31,480
Speaker 1: I'm just trying to get a little bit more gazing on,

1193
00:55:31,600 --> 00:55:34,160
Speaker 1: like what the rotation would be like with them, because

1194
00:55:34,200 --> 00:55:37,280
Speaker 1: I know Antonio Hamilton's the beginning was munching with a Baker.

1195
00:55:37,239 --> 00:55:39,600
Speaker 1: For Baker has been emerging. He's been looking really good

1196
00:55:39,600 --> 00:55:42,360
Speaker 1: as of late. Um, so I know it is a

1197
00:55:42,400 --> 00:55:44,279
Speaker 1: knee issue. Back then, I was just trying to get

1198
00:55:44,560 --> 00:55:46,800
Speaker 1: more of a line of the things they would probably

1199
00:55:46,840 --> 00:55:49,040
Speaker 1: throw sambieland from some snaps because I know in the

1200
00:55:49,080 --> 00:55:51,680
Speaker 1: beginning of training camp he was getting some snaps at

1201
00:55:51,680 --> 00:55:55,320
Speaker 1: the one uh with the rest of the jack Rabbit

1202
00:55:55,440 --> 00:55:57,520
Speaker 1: and Baker in there as well. So I was just

1203
00:55:57,520 --> 00:55:59,920
Speaker 1: trying to get your gauge on what his role was

1204
00:56:00,000 --> 00:56:02,440
Speaker 1: me when if if need come back and when you

1205
00:56:02,600 --> 00:56:05,160
Speaker 1: come back, Yeah, it's no problem. Thanks for the called pal,

1206
00:56:05,200 --> 00:56:10,600
Speaker 1: appreciate it. Um. Look, I don't think you rotate outside

1207
00:56:10,640 --> 00:56:13,279
Speaker 1: corners in I think he's either one of your top

1208
00:56:13,320 --> 00:56:16,240
Speaker 1: two outside corners or he's not. And right now Baker

1209
00:56:16,880 --> 00:56:20,080
Speaker 1: and Jenkins are your top two outside corners. Bill is

1210
00:56:20,080 --> 00:56:21,799
Speaker 1: not a slot guy, he's not a nickel guy, so

1211
00:56:21,840 --> 00:56:23,640
Speaker 1: he's not going to go in there and play for

1212
00:56:23,680 --> 00:56:27,239
Speaker 1: Grant Haley. So I don't know how quickly he's gonna

1213
00:56:27,280 --> 00:56:29,120
Speaker 1: go back in and play unless there's a problem with

1214
00:56:29,120 --> 00:56:32,719
Speaker 1: either Jenkins or Baker. Yeah, we also we gotta wait

1215
00:56:32,719 --> 00:56:35,000
Speaker 1: and see if they're gonna activate him too. I'm not

1216
00:56:35,040 --> 00:56:37,800
Speaker 1: saying that I know anything, but just because the guy's

1217
00:56:37,840 --> 00:56:40,040
Speaker 1: on I R. John, does not mean that he's guaranteed

1218
00:56:40,080 --> 00:56:42,680
Speaker 1: to come back. He's eligible to come back. But the

1219
00:56:42,719 --> 00:56:44,920
Speaker 1: Giants are gonna have to make a decision, and sometimes

1220
00:56:44,920 --> 00:56:47,879
Speaker 1: that would involve having to clearly remove somebody else from

1221
00:56:47,880 --> 00:56:50,279
Speaker 1: the rosters. So let's see what the health of the

1222
00:56:50,320 --> 00:56:53,759
Speaker 1: team is like when those eight weeks expire, and then

1223
00:56:53,840 --> 00:56:56,759
Speaker 1: I think that will give the Giants an indication of

1224
00:56:56,800 --> 00:56:58,920
Speaker 1: what they can afford to take off of the roster.

1225
00:56:59,280 --> 00:57:00,759
Speaker 1: And I don't think you they're not gonna let go

1226
00:57:00,760 --> 00:57:03,560
Speaker 1: a Balantine or Julian Love. So the defensive backs you're

1227
00:57:03,560 --> 00:57:05,840
Speaker 1: looking at her Sewan Chandler was really more of a safety.

1228
00:57:06,360 --> 00:57:09,520
Speaker 1: Or you have a guy like Um Hamilton's who's one

1229
00:57:09,520 --> 00:57:12,000
Speaker 1: of their best special teams players, so you're right, that

1230
00:57:12,080 --> 00:57:13,799
Speaker 1: is gonna be a tough decision. Or will they find

1231
00:57:13,800 --> 00:57:15,279
Speaker 1: a guy in a different position to take off the

1232
00:57:15,760 --> 00:57:19,000
Speaker 1: ring on another defensive back. But once again, the health

1233
00:57:19,040 --> 00:57:21,400
Speaker 1: of the team at that point, John, I think that

1234
00:57:22,040 --> 00:57:24,680
Speaker 1: it was just like Denny Fowler was let go and

1235
00:57:24,720 --> 00:57:27,400
Speaker 1: then brought back. Well, the wide receiver position has changed.

1236
00:57:27,480 --> 00:57:30,240
Speaker 1: Nate Stupart was let go and brought back. Well, the

1237
00:57:30,360 --> 00:57:33,640
Speaker 1: circumstances surrounding the linebacker have changed, so that can't be

1238
00:57:33,680 --> 00:57:36,480
Speaker 1: dismissed when you look at those decisions. I got two tweets.

1239
00:57:36,800 --> 00:57:41,959
Speaker 1: It's time for tweets, all right, Danny Colata, he has

1240
00:57:42,000 --> 00:57:44,240
Speaker 1: a question similar to them we just got from Alex

1241
00:57:44,280 --> 00:57:47,080
Speaker 1: down in Dallas. Uh. He asked about Beale, but I'm

1242
00:57:47,080 --> 00:57:48,840
Speaker 1: gonna cut that part of the question out because we

1243
00:57:48,960 --> 00:57:50,880
Speaker 1: just talked about Beal. He wants to know if we

1244
00:57:50,920 --> 00:57:53,160
Speaker 1: think we'll see more of Corey Ballantine and Julian Love

1245
00:57:53,240 --> 00:57:55,960
Speaker 1: as a season progresses. And I think, you know, Balentine,

1246
00:57:56,000 --> 00:57:58,480
Speaker 1: I think we would file into the same category as

1247
00:57:59,560 --> 00:58:01,760
Speaker 1: um Be because he's an outside cornerback. He's not a

1248
00:58:01,760 --> 00:58:03,520
Speaker 1: slot guy. We're seeing him on special teams as a

1249
00:58:03,600 --> 00:58:06,040
Speaker 1: kick returner, So unless it's an injury, I'm not sure

1250
00:58:06,080 --> 00:58:08,160
Speaker 1: we're going to see him play more as an outside corner.

1251
00:58:08,200 --> 00:58:10,840
Speaker 1: I don't think he's a slot guy. Uh. He did

1252
00:58:10,840 --> 00:58:12,520
Speaker 1: do a little bit of that in the summer, but

1253
00:58:12,560 --> 00:58:14,520
Speaker 1: I don't think that's what his future is, especially for

1254
00:58:14,560 --> 00:58:17,360
Speaker 1: a guy that is young. You know that position, that

1255
00:58:17,440 --> 00:58:19,600
Speaker 1: the nickel spot is a lot of additional responsibilities and

1256
00:58:19,680 --> 00:58:22,400
Speaker 1: run support blitz saying things like that. Then, Julia Love,

1257
00:58:22,440 --> 00:58:24,120
Speaker 1: I think it's more interesting because he's a guy that

1258
00:58:24,160 --> 00:58:26,880
Speaker 1: can also play that nickel spot and in place of

1259
00:58:26,960 --> 00:58:29,960
Speaker 1: Dan gren Helly. He has experienced doing that from college,

1260
00:58:30,200 --> 00:58:32,840
Speaker 1: while Balentine and be we're just outside guys. But he

1261
00:58:32,880 --> 00:58:34,360
Speaker 1: could also be a guy that if they side they

1262
00:58:34,360 --> 00:58:36,320
Speaker 1: want to make a move in free safety, he could

1263
00:58:36,320 --> 00:58:38,280
Speaker 1: maybe play that spot if they decide they want to

1264
00:58:38,280 --> 00:58:40,480
Speaker 1: take Antoine Bathet out. So I think you have a

1265
00:58:40,520 --> 00:58:43,600
Speaker 1: better shot at Love because of his versatility than you

1266
00:58:43,680 --> 00:58:46,160
Speaker 1: do the of Balentine. Yeah, I would agree with you.

1267
00:58:46,240 --> 00:58:49,400
Speaker 1: I think Julian loves versatility. What he brings to the

1268
00:58:49,440 --> 00:58:52,959
Speaker 1: table is very different from what Balentine brings to the table.

1269
00:58:53,000 --> 00:58:55,000
Speaker 1: So if they decide that they're going to make a change,

1270
00:58:55,400 --> 00:58:58,560
Speaker 1: then he would most likely see the field because he

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Speaker 1: could play inside. At this point, let's face it, you're

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Speaker 1: not gonna take as you alluded to earlier, John, I'm

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Speaker 1: not gonna take Jenkins or Baker off the field just

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Speaker 1: to give playing time to another guy, unless you want

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Speaker 1: to give him a breather. Now. The interesting thing this

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Speaker 1: week is that the Cardinals, though injuries and wide receiver

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Speaker 1: have kind of changed their strategy a little bit. They

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Speaker 1: had been going a lot of for wide receiver sets.

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Speaker 1: Christian Kirk. If he comes back, maybe they'll go back

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Speaker 1: to that, in which case you might have to put

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Speaker 1: another cornerback on the fields. Maybe you will see Corey

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Speaker 1: Balentine this week. Who knows, we'll see, but that's what

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Speaker 1: I would keep an eye on. With that our other tweet,

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Speaker 1: I wanted to get you with him doing Davis, I

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Speaker 1: want to talk about David Mayo. Since coming into the

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Speaker 1: game against the Redskins, Mayo has thirty one total tackles,

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Speaker 1: placing him third on the team only in three games

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Speaker 1: he's been in Slash started. Definitely a dark horse this year.

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Speaker 1: I agree. I think Mayo's played well lands. I think

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Speaker 1: he's been good against the run. He's very good. You know,

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Speaker 1: finally he's good gap integrity, good gap responsibility, gets where

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Speaker 1: he needs to go. I'm not sure you'll ever be

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Speaker 1: a guy you're gonna want to covering people in space,

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Speaker 1: but against the run, I think he's done a pretty

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Speaker 1: dark good job. He's been very active. He's actually set

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Speaker 1: a career high end tackles in each of those three games,

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Speaker 1: so his production has gone up, and he's got a

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Speaker 1: knack for finding the holes and getting out into open

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Speaker 1: space and bringing guys down. So you know, that's the

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Speaker 1: whole point of why they brought him on the roster.

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Speaker 1: They wanted him to be productive. Dave Gettleman certainly had

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Speaker 1: familiarity with him going back to Carolina, and opportunity is

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Speaker 1: a big part of the National Football League. Just because

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Speaker 1: a guy was a special team or elsewhere. Now you

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Speaker 1: want to see what he can do, test his true

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Speaker 1: colors when he's thrown in as a every down defensive player.

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Speaker 1: And so far, David May always answered the call, and

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Speaker 1: it's always good for the Giants to have depth in

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Speaker 1: options at that position. Considering John the amount of injuries

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Speaker 1: that have stockpiled, specifically at the interior linebacker spot. Lance

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Speaker 1: bun show absolutely for Lance Meadow. I'm John Schmolke. That's

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