WEBVTT - 10-28-20 HOUR 2- Sean Casey 0:00:00.640 --> 0:00:03.480 You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox 0:00:03.560 --> 0:00:06.720 Sports Radio Our two on this Wednesday, Dan and the 0:00:06.800 --> 0:00:09.640 Dannets Dan Patrick Show. The Dodgers gave the city of 0:00:09.680 --> 0:00:12.879 Los Angeles its second championship at twenty twenty, after the 0:00:12.960 --> 0:00:16.320 Lakers won the NBA title earlier this month, just the 0:00:16.440 --> 0:00:19.800 third time that a city or a metro area claimed 0:00:19.800 --> 0:00:23.040 both the NBA and baseball titles in the same year. 0:00:23.079 --> 0:00:27.680 All three involved Los Angeles nineteen eighty eight Dodgers Lakers, 0:00:28.080 --> 0:00:32.479 two thousand and two the Lakers and the Anaheim Angels, 0:00:32.720 --> 0:00:36.800 and then last night twenty twenty, Dodgers joining the twenty 0:00:36.880 --> 0:00:40.120 twenty Lakers. We'll get to your phone calls. People are 0:00:40.159 --> 0:00:43.199 riled up over a few things here Kevin Cash, the 0:00:43.240 --> 0:00:46.440 manager for the Raise, pulling his starting pitcher Blake Snell, 0:00:47.200 --> 0:00:51.159 and people looking at that move saying you shouldn't have 0:00:51.200 --> 0:00:54.240 been married to analytics. Maybe you should be dating analytics, 0:00:54.280 --> 0:00:57.920 not married to analytics. Corey Seeger was named MVP. I 0:00:57.920 --> 0:01:01.440 thought Mookie Betts was on full display, showing you why 0:01:01.520 --> 0:01:04.880 he is baby baseball's best all around player, certainly in 0:01:04.920 --> 0:01:07.760 the conversation as one of the great all around players 0:01:08.040 --> 0:01:10.800 doing it with his arm, with his legs, with his bat, 0:01:11.000 --> 0:01:14.640 his intelligence. No baseball tonight, no NFL tonight, no college 0:01:14.640 --> 0:01:18.840 football tonight. And as we look ahead to Thursday night, 0:01:19.319 --> 0:01:21.440 well do we look ahead to Thursday night's game with 0:01:21.520 --> 0:01:27.679 Carolina against Atlanta. It doesn't seem fair. You know, I 0:01:27.760 --> 0:01:30.240 love my night. You know, meet some Teddy Bridgewater. I 0:01:30.240 --> 0:01:32.360 don't think Christian McCaffrey is going to be ready to play. 0:01:33.480 --> 0:01:36.440 This will probably be a referendum on the Atlanta Falcons 0:01:36.440 --> 0:01:39.240 and what they do in the future if they're going 0:01:39.319 --> 0:01:42.720 to be a seller at the trade deadline, which I 0:01:42.760 --> 0:01:45.800 don't think they're going to. Phone calls are welcome. We'll 0:01:45.800 --> 0:01:47.880 talk to Josh Allen, the Bill's quarterback, a little bit 0:01:47.960 --> 0:01:50.680 later on. In an hour from now, the manager of 0:01:50.720 --> 0:01:53.200 the La Dodgers, Dave Roberts, will join us. One of 0:01:53.200 --> 0:01:57.120 our favorite guests, Sean Casey, MLB network analysts, former player. 0:01:57.160 --> 0:02:00.160 He'll join us coming up in a little bit eight 0:02:00.280 --> 0:02:02.960 seven seven three D P show email and dress dpitt 0:02:03.040 --> 0:02:05.680 Nan Patrick dot Com Twitter handle a DP show. By 0:02:05.680 --> 0:02:09.440 the way, my Mookie bets homered in Boston's World Series 0:02:09.480 --> 0:02:12.360 clinching win in twenty eighteen, did the same thing for 0:02:12.400 --> 0:02:15.520 the Dodgers last night. He's the second player in baseball 0:02:15.600 --> 0:02:19.040 history to hit a home run in a World Series, 0:02:19.120 --> 0:02:23.360 clinching win for two different teams. When anybody liked to 0:02:23.400 --> 0:02:28.880 guess the other player who did this been a guest 0:02:28.919 --> 0:02:35.760 on the show many times colorful, controversial. I don't know 0:02:35.800 --> 0:02:39.440 if anybody in baseball history took a bigger swing than 0:02:39.560 --> 0:02:46.960 this player, Reggie Jackson, he homered for the A's in 0:02:47.040 --> 0:02:51.040 nineteen seventy three the Yankees in seventy seven and seventy eight. 0:02:51.840 --> 0:02:55.440 Stead of the day, take of the day, best out 0:02:55.440 --> 0:02:59.639 of the day, stat of the day, here comes that 0:03:00.400 --> 0:03:05.680 stat of the day. By the way, if you're interested 0:03:05.720 --> 0:03:07.880 in the analytics. I brought this up first hour, but 0:03:07.960 --> 0:03:13.480 it's worth repeating. Blake Snell's ra by inning in the postseason. 0:03:13.560 --> 0:03:18.600 This is before last night. He pitched twenty four in 0:03:18.639 --> 0:03:21.840 the third innings. His RA in the first inning was 0:03:22.040 --> 0:03:25.320 three point six zero. Second inning zero point zero zero, 0:03:25.520 --> 0:03:28.960 third inning one point eight zero, fourth inning zero point 0:03:29.120 --> 0:03:34.880 zero zero. Fifth inning his RA was fourteen point seven three. 0:03:36.200 --> 0:03:39.200 There is some data to fall back on as Kevin 0:03:39.280 --> 0:03:42.480 Cash is looking at these numbers and realizing the third 0:03:42.520 --> 0:03:46.280 time through the lineup. That's when Blake Snell runs into trouble. 0:03:46.680 --> 0:03:49.760 Here is Kevin Cash talking about why he pulled his 0:03:49.840 --> 0:03:54.560 star pitcher last night. The only motive was that the 0:03:54.640 --> 0:03:58.000 line lineups the Dodgers features as potent as any team 0:03:58.000 --> 0:04:00.600 in the league. Personally, I felt Blake on his job 0:04:00.880 --> 0:04:03.600 and then some Mookie coming around for the third time 0:04:03.680 --> 0:04:07.480 through I value that. I totally respect and understand the 0:04:07.960 --> 0:04:11.280 questions that come with it. Blake gave us every opportunity 0:04:11.280 --> 0:04:15.640 to win. He was outstanding. They're not easy decisions, and 0:04:15.680 --> 0:04:18.040 that's where I came to the decision. I felt it 0:04:18.080 --> 0:04:20.800 was best after the guy got on base, Barnes hit 0:04:20.839 --> 0:04:24.600 the single. Didn't want Mookie seeing Mookie or Seeger seeing 0:04:24.680 --> 0:04:29.560 Blake a third time, and I understand that, but I 0:04:29.600 --> 0:04:31.800 also have to factor in. This is Game six of 0:04:31.839 --> 0:04:35.520 the World Series. You have to win this game. Is 0:04:35.560 --> 0:04:38.640 the guy who's coming in from the bullpen going to 0:04:38.680 --> 0:04:43.040 be better than the pitcher who's on the mound. And 0:04:43.200 --> 0:04:48.800 that's where I can't always abide by analytics. You know, 0:04:48.839 --> 0:04:52.000 there's rules in if you play blackcheck, there's certain things 0:04:52.040 --> 0:04:53.800 that you know. You get to a certain total and 0:04:53.839 --> 0:04:58.279 then you'll hit or you'll double double down or you'll stick. 0:04:59.480 --> 0:05:04.200 This is This isn't blackjack because there's the human element 0:05:04.240 --> 0:05:06.919 in this. So I can have analytics with blackjack, but 0:05:07.720 --> 0:05:11.000 you know, the dealer is not. He's emotionless. You know, 0:05:11.040 --> 0:05:14.880 they're just rules of what they do. And when you decide, 0:05:14.920 --> 0:05:19.200 hey I got a fourteen, I'm gonna stay. I got sixteen, 0:05:19.240 --> 0:05:23.880 I'm staying. The dealer is showing whatever. This is different. 0:05:24.160 --> 0:05:26.440 This is baseball. The human element in there, and that's 0:05:26.480 --> 0:05:29.320 what I want to know. The way Blake Snow was pitching, 0:05:30.080 --> 0:05:32.720 was he going to be better than the pitcher you're 0:05:32.720 --> 0:05:36.040 bringing in and Anderson had not pitched well in the postseason. 0:05:36.800 --> 0:05:39.760 That was my big question. That was as I said 0:05:39.839 --> 0:05:44.599 at the time, when I'm watching this last night, I 0:05:44.760 --> 0:05:47.000 just have to take you know, I have to take 0:05:47.040 --> 0:05:50.159 attendance here with everybody in the infield, like, come on in, 0:05:50.680 --> 0:05:52.719 let's get a feel here, what's going on? Or I 0:05:52.760 --> 0:05:54.640 go right to my catcher and just say, you tell me, 0:05:55.839 --> 0:05:57.800 if you were me, would you you know, would you 0:05:57.839 --> 0:05:59.600 keep him in? Does he have the velocity here? Does 0:05:59.600 --> 0:06:01.960 he have a look? You know, how's that breaking ball? 0:06:02.279 --> 0:06:05.600 Because he knows he's there? And I didn't see anybody 0:06:05.680 --> 0:06:10.000 really tee off on him to the start the ending. 0:06:10.320 --> 0:06:12.560 That's a solid base hit up the middle, and that 0:06:12.680 --> 0:06:15.560 might have made Kevin Cash nervous and just said, I 0:06:15.600 --> 0:06:19.000 don't like where that ball was. You didn't fool anybody 0:06:19.040 --> 0:06:21.039 on that, And I got Mookie Bets coming to the play. 0:06:21.600 --> 0:06:23.480 The odds are not in your favor. You got Mookie 0:06:23.520 --> 0:06:25.320 the first two times around? Are you going to get 0:06:25.360 --> 0:06:27.840 him the third time around? And that's probably what Kevin 0:06:27.880 --> 0:06:32.720 Cash is thinking. I can't kill him for it in 0:06:32.760 --> 0:06:35.720 the moment. I did, but he still had a philosophy 0:06:35.800 --> 0:06:38.120 that got them here. And I didn't think they were 0:06:38.160 --> 0:06:41.760 a good team. I don't know how they did it. 0:06:43.160 --> 0:06:47.360 They had great pitching, they had pitching depth, and he 0:06:47.480 --> 0:06:50.880 was trusting that depth and the analytics that were attached 0:06:50.920 --> 0:06:54.640 to it. And if you didn't have a Rosarina, you 0:06:54.760 --> 0:06:57.719 had no offense like you had nobody you could really go, 0:06:57.960 --> 0:07:00.200 I know that guy's going to do something. I know 0:07:00.240 --> 0:07:03.120 that guy's going to get on. Watching the Dodgers, I 0:07:03.200 --> 0:07:05.760 knew Corey Seeger was going to get on, Mookie was 0:07:05.760 --> 0:07:09.400 going to do something. I just got the feeling there 0:07:09.400 --> 0:07:11.680 were players that were going to do something, and I 0:07:11.720 --> 0:07:15.040 didn't get that feeling with the Rays. And the reason 0:07:15.040 --> 0:07:17.520 why when I made my prediction that the Dodgers and 0:07:17.600 --> 0:07:20.720 Rays would play in the Dodgers would win the World 0:07:20.800 --> 0:07:23.400 Series was the Dodgers I knew would hit and if 0:07:23.400 --> 0:07:25.120 they got pitching, they were going to win. The Rays 0:07:25.400 --> 0:07:27.240 they had pitching, and if they got hitting, they were 0:07:27.240 --> 0:07:29.920 going to win. And that's really what it came out to. 0:07:30.440 --> 0:07:33.000 Came down to. Yeah, points, some of the Rays starting players, 0:07:33.080 --> 0:07:37.280 they're batting average for the World Series one eight, five, 0:07:37.600 --> 0:07:41.679 one three. Those are six different starters hit under two hundred. 0:07:45.040 --> 0:07:48.560 There's part of me that liked the controversy attached to 0:07:48.600 --> 0:07:51.760 Blake Snell because it's forcing a lot of people to 0:07:51.800 --> 0:07:55.120 talk about baseball today. A lot of shows that normally 0:07:55.120 --> 0:07:59.600 don't talk baseball are talking baseball. And you know, while 0:07:59.680 --> 0:08:02.240 you not, you know, might be critical of Kevin Cash, 0:08:02.520 --> 0:08:05.440 might be critical of Justin Turner going out and celebrating, 0:08:05.840 --> 0:08:09.880 we're at least talking baseball. I don't know what would 0:08:09.880 --> 0:08:13.240 happened if there was a Game seven, like how long 0:08:13.280 --> 0:08:15.400 do you have to wait? Everybody gets tested? What if? 0:08:15.680 --> 0:08:21.360 You know, because Justin Turner was around his teammates could 0:08:21.440 --> 0:08:27.680 they have played Friday night. It was just bizarre. It 0:08:27.880 --> 0:08:31.440 was just like, you go, wait, Justin Turner got pulled, 0:08:31.480 --> 0:08:33.520 Why do you get pulled? Nobody telling us why he 0:08:33.559 --> 0:08:36.600 got pulled? And then you find out this test came 0:08:36.640 --> 0:08:41.439 back during the game and then they baseplas to call 0:08:41.520 --> 0:08:44.000 the Dodgers and say you got to pull them. This 0:08:44.160 --> 0:08:46.800 program brought to you by Bass Pro Shops and Cabela's 0:08:46.960 --> 0:08:51.640 the flannel destination for the whole family this fall. It's 0:08:51.640 --> 0:08:55.880 an unbelievable section of flannel in there. You go in, 0:08:55.960 --> 0:08:59.199 you can get lost. They have their annual flannel fast 0:08:59.320 --> 0:09:03.120 at reach locations across North America. You can shop their 0:09:03.440 --> 0:09:06.800 current planel deals in store online today. McLevin, what's the 0:09:06.800 --> 0:09:10.200 pull question today? Okay? The question is always trust your 0:09:10.240 --> 0:09:14.600 gut or analytics? Eighty five? Choose your gut. Yeah, you 0:09:14.640 --> 0:09:20.600 only get one here. Yeah, that's Kevin Cash only got one. 0:09:20.800 --> 0:09:23.400 He was trusting his analytics not as good. Yeah, let 0:09:23.440 --> 0:09:25.760 me rephrase this. If you had a baseball team in 0:09:25.800 --> 0:09:27.760 your town, would you want him to be an analytics 0:09:27.760 --> 0:09:32.040 team or not? An analytics team too? May you want 0:09:32.040 --> 0:09:35.880 to win a World Series? Wow, you're leading the witness 0:09:35.920 --> 0:09:39.280 there aren't you. Well, I mean, you don't have to 0:09:39.320 --> 0:09:41.240 look far to see the analytics teams are the ones 0:09:41.320 --> 0:09:44.680 winning everything. There's certainly a place for it, but there 0:09:44.679 --> 0:09:47.760 has to be a world Series title circle. Okay, But 0:09:48.080 --> 0:09:55.480 analytics also cost the Rays last night. Maybe by the way, 0:09:55.480 --> 0:09:58.319 we've ripped Dave Roberts a thousand times for not pulling 0:09:58.320 --> 0:10:02.240 Clayton Kershaw, and now we're ripping Kevin Cash for pulling him. 0:10:02.280 --> 0:10:05.720 So you never know, That's all I'm saying. I know, yeah, 0:10:05.760 --> 0:10:07.880 see right, But that can't I hate to try and 0:10:07.920 --> 0:10:10.440 be a measured person here, but can't it just be 0:10:10.559 --> 0:10:14.000 that the analytics works and sometimes it doesn't. Sometimes it 0:10:14.040 --> 0:10:16.560 was the wrong move, Like, isn't that? Isn't that? Okay, 0:10:17.280 --> 0:10:19.680 it's not flawless, it's not perfect. Well you can say 0:10:19.960 --> 0:10:24.360 it's certainly a smarter approach to baseball, but it's not flawless. Yeah, absolutely, 0:10:24.559 --> 0:10:27.800 Like you can make a decision and you know ninety 0:10:27.840 --> 0:10:30.520 percent of the time it's going to work out. It's 0:10:30.520 --> 0:10:33.520 the ten percent that it doesn't. But I think you 0:10:33.640 --> 0:10:36.880 have to have the human element in baseball, in a 0:10:36.960 --> 0:10:40.000 gut feeling of somebody going to the plate. How many 0:10:40.040 --> 0:10:41.920 times has a manager said, you know, I just had 0:10:41.960 --> 0:10:44.520 a gut feeling. How many times has he said, you know, 0:10:44.800 --> 0:10:47.200 I thought that he was the right guy to send up, 0:10:47.520 --> 0:10:50.000 or I was going to leave him in for one 0:10:50.040 --> 0:10:51.960 more bad or I decided to take him out and 0:10:52.000 --> 0:10:54.360 put somebody else in for it. And he doesn't say, 0:10:54.679 --> 0:10:57.000 you know what we did the analytics it was based 0:10:57.040 --> 0:10:59.840 off of I just had a feeling. Now that might 0:11:00.120 --> 0:11:05.120 be subconsciously based in analytics, but there are times when 0:11:05.360 --> 0:11:09.000 managers make a decision and it's based off just the 0:11:09.080 --> 0:11:11.720 feel of the game. Yeah, I cub and but that 0:11:11.760 --> 0:11:14.000 often goes wrong too. It's like Seaton said, it's a 0:11:14.000 --> 0:11:17.000 gray areas. Sometimes these will work, sometimes they don't. But 0:11:17.440 --> 0:11:19.080 you know, do you really trust a grown man wearing 0:11:19.080 --> 0:11:23.360 a Little league uniform? That's why did managers wear anyway? 0:11:23.440 --> 0:11:26.439 I don't know. Could you imagine if NBA coaches had 0:11:26.440 --> 0:11:29.800 to wear uniforms? Be awesome like Phil Jackson out there, 0:11:31.760 --> 0:11:35.880 Stan Van Gundi out there, but which would be weirder 0:11:35.920 --> 0:11:38.600 if you saw Dave Roberts wearing a three piece suit 0:11:38.600 --> 0:11:41.440 in the dugout with nice shoes standing then aside. But 0:11:41.440 --> 0:11:44.480 didn't managers back in the early nineteen hundreds. Didn't they 0:11:44.480 --> 0:11:47.440 wear Did they wear a suit? Connie Mack? Didn't they 0:11:47.480 --> 0:11:50.600 wear a suit? In the dugout? Yeah? MC club. Can 0:11:50.600 --> 0:11:52.640 I ask you want baseball question. Does it seem like 0:11:52.720 --> 0:11:55.720 every time there's a great story, it often risks getting 0:11:55.760 --> 0:11:58.480 over overblown by a negative story, Like there's always something 0:11:58.520 --> 0:12:02.320 a little off lately, the astras you know, oh, I know, 0:12:02.480 --> 0:12:05.199 but you know the Justin Turner situation. I didn't want 0:12:05.200 --> 0:12:07.560 to spend too much time on it. It just doesn't 0:12:07.559 --> 0:12:09.760 look good. And he was told not to go out 0:12:09.760 --> 0:12:11.960 on the field and if you want to wear a 0:12:12.000 --> 0:12:14.360 mask and go out there, fine, He didn't want to 0:12:14.360 --> 0:12:17.200 wear a mask, you know during the picture? When did 0:12:17.520 --> 0:12:20.480 When did baseball know that he had tested positive? And 0:12:20.679 --> 0:12:26.440 it's coming back during the game. I hate to have 0:12:26.480 --> 0:12:28.720 a blanket statement on it, but it feels like once 0:12:28.760 --> 0:12:31.160 the game starts, then you then we're going to play 0:12:31.200 --> 0:12:35.640 this out. He's already been around his teammates. I just 0:12:35.679 --> 0:12:38.640 think baseball felt like, if we don't do something, we're 0:12:38.640 --> 0:12:41.640 gonna look like we're covering up something here. But they 0:12:41.640 --> 0:12:45.280 had gone fifty eight consecutive days without a positive test 0:12:45.440 --> 0:12:48.640 and then somehow you get one in game six of 0:12:48.720 --> 0:12:52.520 the World Series. Robin Ohio, Hey Rob, what's on your 0:12:52.520 --> 0:12:59.000 mind today? Hey boys? First time? Long time? Switch to then. 0:12:59.080 --> 0:13:01.800 I like your comment not being married to analytics regarding 0:13:01.920 --> 0:13:04.160 snell situation. Of course that's what I'm calling him for, 0:13:04.360 --> 0:13:06.080 but here I think it should be more like the 0:13:06.080 --> 0:13:09.400 show Friends seriously dating. But at a certain point we're 0:13:09.400 --> 0:13:11.679 on a break, and that point is Game six of 0:13:11.720 --> 0:13:15.080 the World Series, when your guy is dealing. I mean, 0:13:15.080 --> 0:13:16.960 I love analytics. There's a lot to be set what 0:13:17.080 --> 0:13:19.120 they do, but in the limelight, you gotta let your start. 0:13:19.120 --> 0:13:22.439 The starts back at chilling baum Gardner, Gibson. I mean, 0:13:22.920 --> 0:13:24.440 like you said, they're the worst parts they brought in 0:13:24.520 --> 0:13:27.320 Anderson and well, I mean, what had he done to 0:13:27.400 --> 0:13:28.720 prove that he could get through it now? And that 0:13:28.800 --> 0:13:31.280 was the only thing that if I have a gut feeling, 0:13:31.320 --> 0:13:34.520 it's he hasn't pitched well, and thanks for the phone call. 0:13:34.800 --> 0:13:38.880 Whereas Snell is pitching well and his last outing he 0:13:38.960 --> 0:13:43.400 pitched well. The twelve starters in this year's World Series 0:13:43.480 --> 0:13:47.839 pitched an average of four point four innings, with a 0:13:47.920 --> 0:13:52.000 high of six innings by Kershaw Game one, Bueller Game three. 0:13:52.679 --> 0:13:55.240 This is the second World Series in which no starter 0:13:55.400 --> 0:13:58.440 went more than six innings in a game. The other 0:13:58.480 --> 0:14:01.960 time when the Ubs won the World Series in twenty 0:14:02.000 --> 0:14:08.280 sixteen days. Start of the day, start of the day, 0:14:09.200 --> 0:14:15.240 the day, the day, start of the day, start good 0:14:15.240 --> 0:14:19.400 friends from a twittle there, stat of the day. Todd's 0:14:19.400 --> 0:14:24.360 got mock headlines, Dodger mock headlines, Toddler, are you ready 0:14:24.400 --> 0:14:28.800 for this? Sure? How's your count? Okay, you're Kevin Cash 0:14:29.120 --> 0:14:33.120 going to the mound. How's your confidence level? I feel 0:14:33.160 --> 0:14:35.680 good about it? Okay, I'm making the right to series. Okay, 0:14:35.760 --> 0:14:40.080 now is this based off analytics or your god? Not 0:14:40.200 --> 0:14:42.560 the way you want to go? Okay, here we go. 0:14:42.880 --> 0:14:48.400 Here's Todd with mock headlines. Blake smell. Decision to pull 0:14:48.480 --> 0:14:54.920 him stinks. Seeger MVP, Wanta bets, mookie bets. Maybe could 0:14:54.960 --> 0:14:56.920 have gotten MVP. Oh, I'm explaining, and I want me 0:14:56.920 --> 0:15:00.360 to explain. If you have to explain, that's fair. Raise 0:15:00.480 --> 0:15:03.360 the roof Dodgers toppel TAMPLA would have been better for 0:15:03.400 --> 0:15:04.880 that if the raise one. But I got to play 0:15:04.920 --> 0:15:07.720 on the words with Oh I did it again? A 0:15:07.880 --> 0:15:11.560 loser rain, A great stats no ring, A loser ring. 0:15:11.640 --> 0:15:13.360 If you do that one more time, I'm hitting you 0:15:13.360 --> 0:15:16.400 in the face with a pie no choy in Mudville. 0:15:17.440 --> 0:15:21.440 All right, I'm okay with that one. Kurse Shaw. We 0:15:21.480 --> 0:15:26.280 can forget past the post struggles. That's not good. Analytics. 0:15:26.280 --> 0:15:28.480 Can't turn another cheek on mound move. That is not 0:15:28.520 --> 0:15:32.720 good either. Not good. No, that is not not. The 0:15:32.760 --> 0:15:36.680 back room loved it. That should tell you the back 0:15:36.760 --> 0:15:39.920 room guys love that one. Just in case you didn't 0:15:39.960 --> 0:15:44.640 hear tough to mask optics straight cash Homie Kevin will 0:15:44.680 --> 0:15:49.080 have to manage blame. Alrighty, that's Todd Fritz with my headlines. 0:15:50.600 --> 0:15:54.120 Oh smattering, It's not even a smattering nothing, that's just 0:15:54.200 --> 0:15:59.680 that's just one. It feels like Carolines. Oh you didn't 0:15:59.680 --> 0:16:03.440 even get that at Caroline Here a Fly. Well, the 0:16:03.480 --> 0:16:06.480 only noise when you did your stand up acted Carolines 0:16:06.600 --> 0:16:09.000 was when we knocked over the glasses on the table. 0:16:09.080 --> 0:16:12.200 I thought I heard someone. Have to really listen, you know, 0:16:12.560 --> 0:16:15.680 when when you're on stage and Todd could hear us 0:16:16.240 --> 0:16:19.480 sipping our drinks in the back of the room. It's 0:16:19.480 --> 0:16:24.400 like I could hear my stomach digest I hear that. 0:16:25.360 --> 0:16:28.800 Not even a remote giggle from anybody, No, it's okay, 0:16:29.120 --> 0:16:32.480 and you start saying curse words looking for a trapdoor. 0:16:32.800 --> 0:16:34.200 Check it us. See if your mike's plugged in. It 0:16:34.280 --> 0:16:36.880 just you don't know what to do. Yeah, but you're 0:16:36.920 --> 0:16:38.600 not going to do that anymore. You're not doing any 0:16:38.640 --> 0:16:40.480 more stand up, right, you never know. I like to 0:16:40.480 --> 0:16:42.880 put it out there, like Trevor Lawrence. Maybe I'll go 0:16:42.920 --> 0:16:48.080 to the PROI so you're the Trevor Lawrence of stand up. Yeah, 0:16:48.120 --> 0:16:51.080 we'll play that for you. Trevor Lawrence at least left 0:16:51.160 --> 0:16:55.040 the window open, and he left it open that maybe 0:16:55.120 --> 0:16:58.200 he would come back to Clemson. Is this his way 0:16:58.200 --> 0:17:01.840 of saying that he's not a big Jets fan? Because 0:17:01.840 --> 0:17:05.160 I don't care how much you love Clemson. You want 0:17:05.160 --> 0:17:08.680 to get started on that four hundred million dollar contract. 0:17:09.200 --> 0:17:12.080 Now you get through first three seasons in the NFL, 0:17:12.119 --> 0:17:13.680 and then you say, all right, you want to lock 0:17:13.720 --> 0:17:17.240 me up like Mahomes in Kansas City. You want to 0:17:17.240 --> 0:17:20.639 get started on that. Yeah, McLellan, it's a jet that bad. 0:17:20.640 --> 0:17:22.960 Wire the Jets so bad. It's a huge market. They 0:17:23.200 --> 0:17:25.560 made the editc AFC title game like eight years ago. 0:17:25.920 --> 0:17:29.960 You know, it just feels like they're the Nicks of 0:17:30.000 --> 0:17:33.960 the NFL. They're They're not cool, they're not relevant, They're bad. 0:17:34.240 --> 0:17:39.680 It's not a sturdy, steady, strong front office. You're gonna 0:17:39.680 --> 0:17:43.200 have a new coach in there next year. That could 0:17:43.200 --> 0:17:46.119 be a good thing. Well, it has to be a 0:17:46.160 --> 0:17:49.960 better thing than what you have, But I just there's 0:17:50.000 --> 0:17:53.760 no there there when you're watching the Jets, Like when 0:17:53.760 --> 0:17:55.800 you think about when you tune in, I'll tune in 0:17:55.840 --> 0:18:01.080 to see Sam Darnold. But what else am I watching for? Yeah? 0:18:01.600 --> 0:18:03.560 Isn't that the nature of being number one overall? Pick 0:18:03.640 --> 0:18:05.480 that there's though, you know, you can't be any good. 0:18:05.680 --> 0:18:08.720 I mean, you gotta start over, So start over with 0:18:08.800 --> 0:18:11.400 Trevor and do something. Who does it feel like has 0:18:11.480 --> 0:18:14.119 more hope? The Bengals are the Jets. Oh, definitely the Jets. 0:18:14.440 --> 0:18:17.120 The Bengals. The Bengals don't put any money to scouting, 0:18:17.160 --> 0:18:19.800 they don't pay anybody. There's no way they're gonna ever 0:18:19.840 --> 0:18:23.120 go anywhere. But they've gone to the postseason more often 0:18:23.160 --> 0:18:26.879 than the Jets have. They've gone to two Super Bowls 0:18:26.920 --> 0:18:28.800 at least, you know, a long time ago. The franchise 0:18:28.880 --> 0:18:33.119 has right, But aren't they pinned by their economic restraints? 0:18:33.119 --> 0:18:37.439 That's where the Jets are not. It feels like I 0:18:37.600 --> 0:18:41.480 feel better with Joe Burrow. If if I'm the I'm 0:18:41.480 --> 0:18:43.600 the Bengals. I mean, the Jets have money and can't win. 0:18:45.040 --> 0:18:47.439 I mean, at least the Bengals have a little bit 0:18:47.480 --> 0:18:49.960 of an excuse. They don't have money or spend the money. 0:18:49.960 --> 0:18:53.480 The Jets spend them money and they're not any good. Yeah, 0:18:54.000 --> 0:18:56.000 I mean, have the Bengals ever signed a free agent 0:18:57.000 --> 0:19:00.159 of any note? I don't think it's ever happened. Not 0:19:00.200 --> 0:19:05.679 that you need to do that. Yeah, nobody's breaking down 0:19:05.720 --> 0:19:07.880 the Jet store to sign with that. Yeah, Jamal Adams 0:19:07.920 --> 0:19:10.520 was going to play in the xflan They're they're both 0:19:10.560 --> 0:19:14.320 better than the Jag right now. That's I don't know. 0:19:14.359 --> 0:19:16.919 I think the Jags are in decent position. Do you 0:19:16.960 --> 0:19:18.720 think that that'd be an option if you had to 0:19:18.800 --> 0:19:22.320 choose one of those also ran teams? If I'm what 0:19:22.400 --> 0:19:24.560 Trevor Lawresa, If you're Trevor Lawrence, you might be interested 0:19:24.600 --> 0:19:27.120 in Jacksonville. You know what, Maybe he should stay in college. 0:19:27.480 --> 0:19:29.159 Come to think of it, maybe you should stay in 0:19:30.600 --> 0:19:34.760 Maybe he will be a fifth year senior. All right, 0:19:34.760 --> 0:19:37.719 we'll take a break. More phone calls coming up. The 0:19:37.760 --> 0:19:40.080 manager of the Dodgers, coming up top of the hour 0:19:40.280 --> 0:19:42.240 in an hour and for now. Josh Allen, the Buffalo 0:19:42.280 --> 0:19:45.000 Bill's quarterback. Up next. He's one of our favorites. He's 0:19:45.000 --> 0:19:49.080 Sean Casey of the MLB Network. It's twenty one after 0:19:49.080 --> 0:19:51.000 the hour here on the Dan Patrick Show. Thanks for 0:19:51.040 --> 0:19:53.439 listening to The Dan Patrick Show podcast. Be sure to 0:19:53.480 --> 0:19:56.800 catch us live every weekday morning nine to noon Eastern 0:19:57.000 --> 0:19:59.920 or six to nine Pacific on Fox Sports Radio. Find 0:20:00.000 --> 0:20:02.240 your local station for The Dan Patrick Show at Fox 0:20:02.240 --> 0:20:05.240 Sports Radio dot com, or stream us live every day 0:20:05.280 --> 0:20:09.639 on the iHeartRadio app by searching f s R, or 0:20:09.840 --> 0:20:12.879 stream us live on the Peacock Act. This isn't fair, 0:20:13.359 --> 0:20:16.080 but it's funny. I have a friend who's a Dodger 0:20:16.119 --> 0:20:18.120 fan who just sent me a video. He said, Oh, 0:20:18.160 --> 0:20:20.119 I see you're having Sean Casey on. Why don't you 0:20:20.160 --> 0:20:22.920 ask Sean the time that he faced a young Clayton Kershaw? 0:20:23.240 --> 0:20:25.040 And then he sent me a link to the video 0:20:25.480 --> 0:20:29.760 and I go, oh, that's not nice. I can't lead 0:20:29.840 --> 0:20:32.600 with that with Sean Casey kind enough to get up 0:20:32.600 --> 0:20:36.119 and join us on the program, but I will. Hey, buddy, 0:20:36.119 --> 0:20:43.840 how are you? Yeah? You got your knees buckled. Well, 0:20:43.880 --> 0:20:46.800 you know what, it's so great. I mean, it's not great, 0:20:46.800 --> 0:20:49.640 it's it's just what an experience is. My last year 0:20:49.680 --> 0:20:53.280 with the Red Sox. We're in Vero Beach, right and 0:20:53.840 --> 0:20:55.960 and it's like the sixth sitting. I'm trying to get 0:20:56.000 --> 0:20:58.640 some work in. We you know, we're it's probably gonna 0:20:58.640 --> 0:21:02.000 be my last at bat. And I look out on 0:21:02.040 --> 0:21:04.840 the mound. It's like number ninety eight. This this big 0:21:04.920 --> 0:21:06.960 dude looks like a young kid, you know. And I'd 0:21:06.960 --> 0:21:08.720 say to Dave Maggott and I was like, who is 0:21:08.760 --> 0:21:11.520 this guy? Got you got anything on him? He's like, now, 0:21:11.560 --> 0:21:13.600 I don't know, man, like some rookie they just brought 0:21:13.680 --> 0:21:15.080 up to get some mintings in. I'm like all right. 0:21:15.080 --> 0:21:17.240 So I go to Tito. I'm like, hey, Tito, I'm 0:21:17.240 --> 0:21:20.480 like this guy before. He's like some rookie they brought 0:21:20.560 --> 0:21:22.720 up off the backfield. So I'm like, all right, that's cool. 0:21:23.080 --> 0:21:25.040 So I go up there, you know, I'm leaving off 0:21:25.040 --> 0:21:26.639 the inning, and I see a couple of pitches, you know, 0:21:26.920 --> 0:21:29.960 lining them up. Danny. I get in their first pitch. Boom, 0:21:30.000 --> 0:21:33.560 I'm ready to go. I'm ninety eight outside corner. I'm like, 0:21:34.440 --> 0:21:36.920 and I look over, I swear I stepped out, and 0:21:36.920 --> 0:21:38.480 I'm kind of like, is it is this a joke? 0:21:38.480 --> 0:21:40.560 Because it's a joke on me. I'm looking around. I 0:21:40.640 --> 0:21:42.760 look over at Joe Torrey, who's the manager of the Dodgers, 0:21:42.800 --> 0:21:46.480 the Tylarry Bow They're just like, oh, they're giggling around 0:21:46.560 --> 0:21:48.600 like you know, oh man, they know something I don't know. 0:21:48.720 --> 0:21:51.639 So I get back in deep breath, you know, I'm like, 0:21:51.720 --> 0:21:53.719 come on, I'm a I'm a twelve year vet, I'm 0:21:53.720 --> 0:21:57.320 a dominat here. Next pitch, wham, just one of the 0:21:57.320 --> 0:21:59.760 most unbelievable hammers I've ever seen coming out in my face, 0:21:59.760 --> 0:22:03.679 and I'm just like, start buckling right straight two. I'm like, 0:22:03.720 --> 0:22:06.560 oh my gosh, I'm like, this is this is unbelievable. 0:22:06.800 --> 0:22:11.080 And now Tori and those guys are crying laughing. Next pitch, 0:22:11.160 --> 0:22:13.199 he paints it outside black. I mean, it was like 0:22:13.320 --> 0:22:17.000 ninety seven bam. And look back and the umpire calls 0:22:17.000 --> 0:22:18.560 it a ball. I'm like, oh man, that's like a 0:22:18.640 --> 0:22:20.960 veteran move. Like he doesn't know who this guy is either, 0:22:21.000 --> 0:22:23.720 but we've never seen stuff like this. So I look back. 0:22:23.720 --> 0:22:26.720 I'm like thank you. Next pitch. I mean literally, I 0:22:26.760 --> 0:22:29.320