Speaker 1: You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox
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Speaker 1: Dannets Dan Patrick Show. The Dodgers gave the city of
Speaker 1: Los Angeles its second championship at twenty twenty, after the
Speaker 1: Lakers won the NBA title earlier this month, just the
Speaker 1: third time that a city or a metro area claimed
Speaker 1: both the NBA and baseball titles in the same year.
Speaker 1: All three involved Los Angeles nineteen eighty eight Dodgers Lakers,
Speaker 1: two thousand and two the Lakers and the Anaheim Angels,
Speaker 1: and then last night twenty twenty, Dodgers joining the twenty
Speaker 1: twenty Lakers. We'll get to your phone calls. People are
Speaker 1: riled up over a few things here Kevin Cash, the
Speaker 1: manager for the Raise, pulling his starting pitcher Blake Snell,
Speaker 1: and people looking at that move saying you shouldn't have
Speaker 1: been married to analytics. Maybe you should be dating analytics,
Speaker 1: not married to analytics. Corey Seeger was named MVP. I
Speaker 1: thought Mookie Betts was on full display, showing you why
Speaker 1: he is baby baseball's best all around player, certainly in
Speaker 1: the conversation as one of the great all around players
Speaker 1: doing it with his arm, with his legs, with his bat,
Speaker 1: his intelligence. No baseball tonight, no NFL tonight, no college
Speaker 1: football tonight. And as we look ahead to Thursday night,
Speaker 1: well do we look ahead to Thursday night's game with
Speaker 1: Carolina against Atlanta. It doesn't seem fair. You know, I
Speaker 1: love my night. You know, meet some Teddy Bridgewater. I
Speaker 1: don't think Christian McCaffrey is going to be ready to play.
Speaker 1: This will probably be a referendum on the Atlanta Falcons
Speaker 1: and what they do in the future if they're going
Speaker 1: to be a seller at the trade deadline, which I
Speaker 1: don't think they're going to. Phone calls are welcome. We'll
Speaker 1: talk to Josh Allen, the Bill's quarterback, a little bit
Speaker 1: later on. In an hour from now, the manager of
Speaker 1: the La Dodgers, Dave Roberts, will join us. One of
Speaker 1: our favorite guests, Sean Casey, MLB network analysts, former player.
Speaker 1: He'll join us coming up in a little bit eight
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Speaker 1: the way, my Mookie bets homered in Boston's World Series
Speaker 1: clinching win in twenty eighteen, did the same thing for
Speaker 1: the Dodgers last night. He's the second player in baseball
Speaker 1: history to hit a home run in a World Series,
Speaker 1: clinching win for two different teams. When anybody liked to
Speaker 1: guess the other player who did this been a guest
Speaker 1: on the show many times colorful, controversial. I don't know
Speaker 1: if anybody in baseball history took a bigger swing than
Speaker 1: this player, Reggie Jackson, he homered for the A's in
Speaker 1: nineteen seventy three the Yankees in seventy seven and seventy eight.
Speaker 1: Stead of the day, take of the day, best out
Speaker 1: of the day, stat of the day, here comes that
Speaker 1: stat of the day. By the way, if you're interested
Speaker 1: in the analytics. I brought this up first hour, but
Speaker 1: it's worth repeating. Blake Snell's ra by inning in the postseason.
Speaker 1: This is before last night. He pitched twenty four in
Speaker 1: the third innings. His RA in the first inning was
Speaker 1: three point six zero. Second inning zero point zero zero,
Speaker 1: third inning one point eight zero, fourth inning zero point
Speaker 1: zero zero. Fifth inning his RA was fourteen point seven three.
Speaker 1: There is some data to fall back on as Kevin
Speaker 1: Cash is looking at these numbers and realizing the third
Speaker 1: time through the lineup. That's when Blake Snell runs into trouble.
Speaker 1: Here is Kevin Cash talking about why he pulled his
Speaker 1: star pitcher last night. The only motive was that the
Speaker 1: line lineups the Dodgers features as potent as any team
Speaker 1: in the league. Personally, I felt Blake on his job
Speaker 1: and then some Mookie coming around for the third time
Speaker 1: through I value that. I totally respect and understand the
Speaker 1: questions that come with it. Blake gave us every opportunity
Speaker 1: to win. He was outstanding. They're not easy decisions, and
Speaker 1: that's where I came to the decision. I felt it
Speaker 1: was best after the guy got on base, Barnes hit
Speaker 1: the single. Didn't want Mookie seeing Mookie or Seeger seeing
Speaker 1: Blake a third time, and I understand that, but I
Speaker 1: also have to factor in. This is Game six of
Speaker 1: the World Series. You have to win this game. Is
Speaker 1: the guy who's coming in from the bullpen going to
Speaker 1: be better than the pitcher who's on the mound. And
Speaker 1: that's where I can't always abide by analytics. You know,
Speaker 1: there's rules in if you play blackcheck, there's certain things
Speaker 1: that you know. You get to a certain total and
Speaker 1: then you'll hit or you'll double double down or you'll stick.
Speaker 1: This is This isn't blackjack because there's the human element
Speaker 1: in this. So I can have analytics with blackjack, but
Speaker 1: you know, the dealer is not. He's emotionless. You know,
Speaker 1: they're just rules of what they do. And when you decide,
Speaker 1: hey I got a fourteen, I'm gonna stay. I got sixteen,
Speaker 1: I'm staying. The dealer is showing whatever. This is different.
Speaker 1: This is baseball. The human element in there, and that's
Speaker 1: what I want to know. The way Blake Snow was pitching,
Speaker 1: was he going to be better than the pitcher you're
Speaker 1: bringing in and Anderson had not pitched well in the postseason.
Speaker 1: That was my big question. That was as I said
Speaker 1: at the time, when I'm watching this last night, I
Speaker 1: just have to take you know, I have to take
Speaker 1: attendance here with everybody in the infield, like, come on in,
Speaker 1: let's get a feel here, what's going on? Or I
Speaker 1: go right to my catcher and just say, you tell me,
Speaker 1: if you were me, would you you know, would you
Speaker 1: keep him in? Does he have the velocity here? Does
Speaker 1: he have a look? You know, how's that breaking ball?
Speaker 1: Because he knows he's there? And I didn't see anybody
Speaker 1: really tee off on him to the start the ending.
Speaker 1: That's a solid base hit up the middle, and that
Speaker 1: might have made Kevin Cash nervous and just said, I
Speaker 1: don't like where that ball was. You didn't fool anybody
Speaker 1: on that, And I got Mookie Bets coming to the play.
Speaker 1: The odds are not in your favor. You got Mookie
Speaker 1: the first two times around? Are you going to get
Speaker 1: him the third time around? And that's probably what Kevin
Speaker 1: Cash is thinking. I can't kill him for it in
Speaker 1: the moment. I did, but he still had a philosophy
Speaker 1: that got them here. And I didn't think they were
Speaker 1: a good team. I don't know how they did it.
Speaker 1: They had great pitching, they had pitching depth, and he
Speaker 1: was trusting that depth and the analytics that were attached
Speaker 1: to it. And if you didn't have a Rosarina, you
Speaker 1: had no offense like you had nobody you could really go,
Speaker 1: I know that guy's going to do something. I know
Speaker 1: that guy's going to get on. Watching the Dodgers, I
Speaker 1: knew Corey Seeger was going to get on, Mookie was
Speaker 1: going to do something. I just got the feeling there
Speaker 1: were players that were going to do something, and I
Speaker 1: didn't get that feeling with the Rays. And the reason
Speaker 1: why when I made my prediction that the Dodgers and
Speaker 1: Rays would play in the Dodgers would win the World
Speaker 1: Series was the Dodgers I knew would hit and if
Speaker 1: they got pitching, they were going to win. The Rays
Speaker 1: they had pitching, and if they got hitting, they were
Speaker 1: going to win. And that's really what it came out to.
Speaker 1: Came down to. Yeah, points, some of the Rays starting players,
Speaker 1: they're batting average for the World Series one eight, five,
Speaker 1: one three. Those are six different starters hit under two hundred.
Speaker 1: There's part of me that liked the controversy attached to
Speaker 1: Blake Snell because it's forcing a lot of people to
Speaker 1: talk about baseball today. A lot of shows that normally
Speaker 1: don't talk baseball are talking baseball. And you know, while
Speaker 1: you not, you know, might be critical of Kevin Cash,
Speaker 1: might be critical of Justin Turner going out and celebrating,
Speaker 1: we're at least talking baseball. I don't know what would
Speaker 1: happened if there was a Game seven, like how long
Speaker 1: do you have to wait? Everybody gets tested? What if?
Speaker 1: You know, because Justin Turner was around his teammates could
Speaker 1: they have played Friday night. It was just bizarre. It
Speaker 1: was just like, you go, wait, Justin Turner got pulled,
Speaker 1: Why do you get pulled? Nobody telling us why he
Speaker 1: got pulled? And then you find out this test came
Speaker 1: back during the game and then they baseplas to call
Speaker 1: the Dodgers and say you got to pull them. This
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Speaker 1: pull question today? Okay? The question is always trust your
Speaker 1: gut or analytics? Eighty five? Choose your gut. Yeah, you
Speaker 1: only get one here. Yeah, that's Kevin Cash only got one.
Speaker 1: He was trusting his analytics not as good. Yeah, let
Speaker 1: me rephrase this. If you had a baseball team in
Speaker 1: your town, would you want him to be an analytics
Speaker 1: team or not? An analytics team too? May you want
Speaker 1: to win a World Series? Wow, you're leading the witness
Speaker 1: there aren't you. Well, I mean, you don't have to
Speaker 1: look far to see the analytics teams are the ones
Speaker 1: winning everything. There's certainly a place for it, but there
Speaker 1: has to be a world Series title circle. Okay, But
Speaker 1: analytics also cost the Rays last night. Maybe by the way,
Speaker 1: we've ripped Dave Roberts a thousand times for not pulling
Speaker 1: Clayton Kershaw, and now we're ripping Kevin Cash for pulling him.
Speaker 1: So you never know, That's all I'm saying. I know, yeah,
Speaker 1: see right, But that can't I hate to try and
Speaker 1: be a measured person here, but can't it just be
Speaker 1: that the analytics works and sometimes it doesn't. Sometimes it
Speaker 1: was the wrong move, Like, isn't that? Isn't that? Okay,
Speaker 1: it's not flawless, it's not perfect. Well you can say
Speaker 1: it's certainly a smarter approach to baseball, but it's not flawless. Yeah, absolutely,
Speaker 1: Like you can make a decision and you know ninety
Speaker 1: percent of the time it's going to work out. It's
Speaker 1: the ten percent that it doesn't. But I think you
Speaker 1: have to have the human element in baseball, in a
Speaker 1: gut feeling of somebody going to the plate. How many
Speaker 1: times has a manager said, you know, I just had
Speaker 1: a gut feeling. How many times has he said, you know,
Speaker 1: I thought that he was the right guy to send up,
Speaker 1: or I was going to leave him in for one
Speaker 1: more bad or I decided to take him out and
Speaker 1: put somebody else in for it. And he doesn't say,
Speaker 1: you know what we did the analytics it was based
Speaker 1: off of I just had a feeling. Now that might
Speaker 1: be subconsciously based in analytics, but there are times when
Speaker 1: managers make a decision and it's based off just the
Speaker 1: feel of the game. Yeah, I cub and but that
Speaker 1: often goes wrong too. It's like Seaton said, it's a
Speaker 1: gray areas. Sometimes these will work, sometimes they don't. But
Speaker 1: you know, do you really trust a grown man wearing
Speaker 1: a Little league uniform? That's why did managers wear anyway?
Speaker 1: I don't know. Could you imagine if NBA coaches had
Speaker 1: to wear uniforms? Be awesome like Phil Jackson out there,
Speaker 1: Stan Van Gundi out there, but which would be weirder
Speaker 1: if you saw Dave Roberts wearing a three piece suit
Speaker 1: in the dugout with nice shoes standing then aside. But
Speaker 1: didn't managers back in the early nineteen hundreds. Didn't they
Speaker 1: wear Did they wear a suit? Connie Mack? Didn't they
Speaker 1: wear a suit? In the dugout? Yeah? MC club. Can
Speaker 1: I ask you want baseball question. Does it seem like
Speaker 1: every time there's a great story, it often risks getting
Speaker 1: over overblown by a negative story, Like there's always something
Speaker 1: a little off lately, the astras you know, oh, I know,
Speaker 1: but you know the Justin Turner situation. I didn't want
Speaker 1: to spend too much time on it. It just doesn't
Speaker 1: look good. And he was told not to go out
Speaker 1: on the field and if you want to wear a
Speaker 1: mask and go out there, fine, He didn't want to
Speaker 1: wear a mask, you know during the picture? When did
Speaker 1: When did baseball know that he had tested positive? And
Speaker 1: it's coming back during the game. I hate to have
Speaker 1: a blanket statement on it, but it feels like once
Speaker 1: the game starts, then you then we're going to play
Speaker 1: this out. He's already been around his teammates. I just
Speaker 1: think baseball felt like, if we don't do something, we're
Speaker 1: gonna look like we're covering up something here. But they
Speaker 1: had gone fifty eight consecutive days without a positive test
Speaker 1: and then somehow you get one in game six of
Speaker 1: the World Series. Robin Ohio, Hey Rob, what's on your
Speaker 1: mind today? Hey boys? First time? Long time? Switch to then.
Speaker 1: I like your comment not being married to analytics regarding
Speaker 1: snell situation. Of course that's what I'm calling him for,
Speaker 1: but here I think it should be more like the
Speaker 1: show Friends seriously dating. But at a certain point we're
Speaker 1: on a break, and that point is Game six of
Speaker 1: the World Series, when your guy is dealing. I mean,
Speaker 1: I love analytics. There's a lot to be set what
Speaker 1: they do, but in the limelight, you gotta let your start.
Speaker 1: The starts back at chilling baum Gardner, Gibson. I mean,
Speaker 1: like you said, they're the worst parts they brought in
Speaker 1: Anderson and well, I mean, what had he done to
Speaker 1: prove that he could get through it now? And that
Speaker 1: was the only thing that if I have a gut feeling,
Speaker 1: it's he hasn't pitched well, and thanks for the phone call.
Speaker 1: Whereas Snell is pitching well and his last outing he
Speaker 1: pitched well. The twelve starters in this year's World Series
Speaker 1: pitched an average of four point four innings, with a
Speaker 1: high of six innings by Kershaw Game one, Bueller Game three.
Speaker 1: This is the second World Series in which no starter
Speaker 1: went more than six innings in a game. The other
Speaker 1: time when the Ubs won the World Series in twenty
Speaker 1: sixteen days. Start of the day, start of the day,
Speaker 1: the day, the day, start of the day, start good
Speaker 1: friends from a twittle there, stat of the day. Todd's
Speaker 1: got mock headlines, Dodger mock headlines, Toddler, are you ready
Speaker 1: for this? Sure? How's your count? Okay, you're Kevin Cash
Speaker 1: going to the mound. How's your confidence level? I feel
Speaker 1: good about it? Okay, I'm making the right to series. Okay,
Speaker 1: now is this based off analytics or your god? Not
Speaker 1: the way you want to go? Okay, here we go.
Speaker 1: Here's Todd with mock headlines. Blake smell. Decision to pull
Speaker 1: him stinks. Seeger MVP, Wanta bets, mookie bets. Maybe could
Speaker 1: have gotten MVP. Oh, I'm explaining, and I want me
Speaker 1: to explain. If you have to explain, that's fair. Raise
Speaker 1: the roof Dodgers toppel TAMPLA would have been better for
Speaker 1: that if the raise one. But I got to play
Speaker 1: on the words with Oh I did it again? A
Speaker 1: loser rain, A great stats no ring, A loser ring.
Speaker 1: If you do that one more time, I'm hitting you
Speaker 1: in the face with a pie no choy in Mudville.
Speaker 1: All right, I'm okay with that one. Kurse Shaw. We
Speaker 1: can forget past the post struggles. That's not good. Analytics.
Speaker 1: Can't turn another cheek on mound move. That is not
Speaker 1: good either. Not good. No, that is not not. The
Speaker 1: back room loved it. That should tell you the back
Speaker 1: room guys love that one. Just in case you didn't
Speaker 1: hear tough to mask optics straight cash Homie Kevin will
Speaker 1: have to manage blame. Alrighty, that's Todd Fritz with my headlines.
Speaker 1: Oh smattering, It's not even a smattering nothing, that's just
Speaker 1: that's just one. It feels like Carolines. Oh you didn't
Speaker 1: even get that at Caroline Here a Fly. Well, the
Speaker 1: only noise when you did your stand up acted Carolines
Speaker 1: was when we knocked over the glasses on the table.
Speaker 1: I thought I heard someone. Have to really listen, you know,
Speaker 1: when when you're on stage and Todd could hear us
Speaker 1: sipping our drinks in the back of the room. It's
Speaker 1: like I could hear my stomach digest I hear that.
Speaker 1: Not even a remote giggle from anybody, No, it's okay,
Speaker 1: and you start saying curse words looking for a trapdoor.
Speaker 1: Check it us. See if your mike's plugged in. It
Speaker 1: just you don't know what to do. Yeah, but you're
Speaker 1: not going to do that anymore. You're not doing any
Speaker 1: more stand up, right, you never know. I like to
Speaker 1: put it out there, like Trevor Lawrence. Maybe I'll go
Speaker 1: to the PROI so you're the Trevor Lawrence of stand up. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we'll play that for you. Trevor Lawrence at least left
Speaker 1: the window open, and he left it open that maybe
Speaker 1: he would come back to Clemson. Is this his way
Speaker 1: of saying that he's not a big Jets fan? Because
Speaker 1: I don't care how much you love Clemson. You want
Speaker 1: to get started on that four hundred million dollar contract.
Speaker 1: Now you get through first three seasons in the NFL,
Speaker 1: and then you say, all right, you want to lock
Speaker 1: me up like Mahomes in Kansas City. You want to
Speaker 1: get started on that. Yeah, McLellan, it's a jet that bad.
Speaker 1: Wire the Jets so bad. It's a huge market. They
Speaker 1: made the editc AFC title game like eight years ago.
Speaker 1: You know, it just feels like they're the Nicks of
Speaker 1: the NFL. They're They're not cool, they're not relevant, They're bad.
Speaker 1: It's not a sturdy, steady, strong front office. You're gonna
Speaker 1: have a new coach in there next year. That could
Speaker 1: be a good thing. Well, it has to be a
Speaker 1: better thing than what you have, But I just there's
Speaker 1: no there there when you're watching the Jets, Like when
Speaker 1: you think about when you tune in, I'll tune in
Speaker 1: to see Sam Darnold. But what else am I watching for? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Isn't that the nature of being number one overall? Pick
Speaker 1: that there's though, you know, you can't be any good.
Speaker 1: I mean, you gotta start over, So start over with
Speaker 1: Trevor and do something. Who does it feel like has
Speaker 1: more hope? The Bengals are the Jets. Oh, definitely the Jets.
Speaker 1: The Bengals. The Bengals don't put any money to scouting,
Speaker 1: they don't pay anybody. There's no way they're gonna ever
Speaker 1: go anywhere. But they've gone to the postseason more often
Speaker 1: than the Jets have. They've gone to two Super Bowls
Speaker 1: at least, you know, a long time ago. The franchise
Speaker 1: has right, But aren't they pinned by their economic restraints?
Speaker 1: That's where the Jets are not. It feels like I
Speaker 1: feel better with Joe Burrow. If if I'm the I'm
Speaker 1: the Bengals. I mean, the Jets have money and can't win.
Speaker 1: I mean, at least the Bengals have a little bit
Speaker 1: of an excuse. They don't have money or spend the money.
Speaker 1: The Jets spend them money and they're not any good. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, have the Bengals ever signed a free agent
Speaker 1: of any note? I don't think it's ever happened. Not
Speaker 1: that you need to do that. Yeah, nobody's breaking down
Speaker 1: the Jet store to sign with that. Yeah, Jamal Adams
Speaker 1: was going to play in the xflan They're they're both
Speaker 1: better than the Jag right now. That's I don't know.
Speaker 1: I think the Jags are in decent position. Do you
Speaker 1: think that that'd be an option if you had to
Speaker 1: choose one of those also ran teams? If I'm what
Speaker 1: Trevor Lawresa, If you're Trevor Lawrence, you might be interested
Speaker 1: in Jacksonville. You know what, Maybe he should stay in college.
Speaker 1: Come to think of it, maybe you should stay in
Speaker 1: Maybe he will be a fifth year senior. All right,
Speaker 1: we'll take a break. More phone calls coming up. The
Speaker 1: manager of the Dodgers, coming up top of the hour
Speaker 1: in an hour and for now. Josh Allen, the Buffalo
Speaker 1: Bill's quarterback. Up next. He's one of our favorites. He's
Speaker 1: Sean Casey of the MLB Network. It's twenty one after
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Speaker 1: stream us live on the Peacock Act. This isn't fair,
Speaker 1: but it's funny. I have a friend who's a Dodger
Speaker 1: fan who just sent me a video. He said, Oh,
Speaker 1: I see you're having Sean Casey on. Why don't you
Speaker 1: ask Sean the time that he faced a young Clayton Kershaw?
Speaker 1: And then he sent me a link to the video
Speaker 1: and I go, oh, that's not nice. I can't lead
Speaker 1: with that with Sean Casey kind enough to get up
Speaker 1: and join us on the program, but I will. Hey, buddy,
Speaker 1: how are you? Yeah? You got your knees buckled. Well,
Speaker 1: you know what, it's so great. I mean, it's not great,
Speaker 1: it's it's just what an experience is. My last year
Speaker 1: with the Red Sox. We're in Vero Beach, right and
Speaker 1: and it's like the sixth sitting. I'm trying to get
Speaker 1: some work in. We you know, we're it's probably gonna
Speaker 1: be my last at bat. And I look out on
Speaker 1: the mound. It's like number ninety eight. This this big
Speaker 1: dude looks like a young kid, you know. And I'd
Speaker 1: say to Dave Maggott and I was like, who is
Speaker 1: this guy? Got you got anything on him? He's like, now,
Speaker 1: I don't know, man, like some rookie they just brought
Speaker 1: up to get some mintings in. I'm like all right.
Speaker 1: So I go to Tito. I'm like, hey, Tito, I'm
Speaker 1: like this guy before. He's like some rookie they brought
Speaker 1: up off the backfield. So I'm like, all right, that's cool.
Speaker 1: So I go up there, you know, I'm leaving off
Speaker 1: the inning, and I see a couple of pitches, you know,
Speaker 1: lining them up. Danny. I get in their first pitch. Boom,
Speaker 1: I'm ready to go. I'm ninety eight outside corner. I'm like,
Speaker 1: and I look over, I swear I stepped out, and
Speaker 1: I'm kind of like, is it is this a joke?
Speaker 1: Because it's a joke on me. I'm looking around. I
Speaker 1: look over at Joe Torrey, who's the manager of the Dodgers,
Speaker 1: the Tylarry Bow They're just like, oh, they're giggling around
Speaker 1: like you know, oh man, they know something I don't know.
Speaker 1: So I get back in deep breath, you know, I'm like,
Speaker 1: come on, I'm a I'm a twelve year vet, I'm
Speaker 1: a dominat here. Next pitch, wham, just one of the
Speaker 1: most unbelievable hammers I've ever seen coming out in my face,
Speaker 1: and I'm just like, start buckling right straight two. I'm like,
Speaker 1: oh my gosh, I'm like, this is this is unbelievable.
Speaker 1: And now Tori and those guys are crying laughing. Next pitch,
Speaker 1: he paints it outside black. I mean, it was like
Speaker 1: ninety seven bam. And look back and the umpire calls
Speaker 1: it a ball. I'm like, oh man, that's like a
Speaker 1: veteran move. Like he doesn't know who this guy is either,
Speaker 1: but we've never seen stuff like this. So I look back.
Speaker 1: I'm like thank you. Next pitch. I mean literally, I
Speaker 1: thought it was gonna hit me. Curveball, boom, strike three.
Speaker 1: I mean, just Tony's frozen pizzas, like, don't know what
Speaker 1: to dude, just right here, I'm out right. And I
Speaker 1: walked back and I said that Frank ConA, I go,
Speaker 1: you don't know who this guy is, and TiO goes,
Speaker 1: I don't know, but I'm just glad I'm not you.
Speaker 1: You called that the nastiest pitch you ever faced, that
Speaker 1: curveball that he threw you back then, I swear to
Speaker 1: you know, all those years in the Big League stakes
Speaker 1: and different guys, and Zito had a good curveball, but
Speaker 1: I've never seen ninety seven like darted down and then
Speaker 1: a hook like that, and it was it was it
Speaker 1: was like it was like he threw it up in
Speaker 1: the spin and it was scary. I thought it was
Speaker 1: gonna hit me, and I just like, I like turned
Speaker 1: into a four year old kid, like mammy. You know.
Speaker 1: It was unbelievable. It man, he made me looked like
Speaker 1: And then then he got called up later in that
Speaker 1: year and I was like, that's the guy. That's the
Speaker 1: guy to face. And then when he started dominating. I
Speaker 1: was like, yes, he's dominating everybody. Did you ever talk
Speaker 1: to Kershaw about that in bad Oh? I did, Yeah.
Speaker 1: I think a couple of years later at the All
Speaker 1: Star Game, I was working for MLB Network and I
Speaker 1: was out there, you know, interviewing guys, and I think
Speaker 1: one of the first things I asked and was, hey, man,
Speaker 1: you did me dirty bro. I didn't even know who
Speaker 1: I didn't even know who you were. And he goes, hey,
Speaker 1: I had to go. I knew I was face and
Speaker 1: Sean Case say something like that. He's like I had
Speaker 1: to get him. I'm like, oh man, you got me
Speaker 1: all right? Like I felt so so small. I was like,
Speaker 1: I need to retire. I need to retire. All right.
Speaker 1: Let's start with the move last night when Cash goes
Speaker 1: to the mound, Now, what did you think that he
Speaker 1: should do with Blake Snell in that moment? Boy, I
Speaker 1: just I just know as a hitter, when there's certain
Speaker 1: guys that are on the mound, and you know, I know,
Speaker 1: I know he had punched out Mookie twice, he had
Speaker 1: punched out Seeger and Turner twice. And I understand what
Speaker 1: Cash is saying because that's what they've done all year long.
Speaker 1: So you know, I know they don't like to have
Speaker 1: the picture face the lineup three times, but I know
Speaker 1: Snell was dominant. I mean, he was just had great stuff.
Speaker 1: So for me as a hitter, if you've punched me
Speaker 1: out twice, I'm not looking forward to that third time up.
Speaker 1: That means something really good's happening out there. And so
Speaker 1: I kind of I just I love Cash. A great
Speaker 1: friend of mine had disagreed with it because I know,
Speaker 1: as a hitter, think, just get this guy out of
Speaker 1: here as quick as we can. I mean, bring a
Speaker 1: guy in with a rocket launcher. I don't care. Just
Speaker 1: I need, I need to see something else besides what's
Speaker 1: going on out there. So I don't know, Man, I'm
Speaker 1: second Guests and Cash and then they're in the World
Speaker 1: Series for a reason. But I would not have taken
Speaker 1: Snell right Snell out right there. Yeah, And Mookie said
Speaker 1: after the game he was like, man, I was relieved
Speaker 1: that they took him out because I felt like I
Speaker 1: now I had a chance. And you know, they brought
Speaker 1: in Anderson and he had been hitting right handers better
Speaker 1: than left handers. Yeah, I think, Yeah, what was it
Speaker 1: Mookie's slugging percentage off off leftis was like two eighteen,
Speaker 1: and so it just didn't make sense. And Anderson was
Speaker 1: the one guy too that like, I know, he's been
Speaker 1: really good these last few years, but he hasn't had
Speaker 1: a great postseason. He's the one guy felt like was
Speaker 1: pretty hittable. And when Mookie got that double, I was like, Oh,
Speaker 1: here we go. What do you think is the future
Speaker 1: of analytics in baseball? Well, that's a great question, because
Speaker 1: I really I think I think there's I think it's
Speaker 1: gonna come back around again. Like I just really believe
Speaker 1: there is something to be said, like about the mental
Speaker 1: side of the game, about the flow of the game,
Speaker 1: the mojo of the game, about really seeing what your
Speaker 1: eyes are seeing. You know, you know you can't judge
Speaker 1: like I always people always say about hitting. I'm like, listen,
Speaker 1: when I'm in the box, like I really am trying
Speaker 1: to dump things down. I'm trying to see the ball
Speaker 1: and hit the ball like I'm really trying to like
Speaker 1: you know, slow the game down. Like there's no analytics
Speaker 1: that can help me with that stuff. And you need
Speaker 1: a human being to be able to measure. Hey man,
Speaker 1: he's really seeing the ball whether it or he's feeling
Speaker 1: good today. I talked him when he came to the yard,
Speaker 1: So I think there's gonna be I think there's gonna
Speaker 1: be more of that. I think we're starting to get
Speaker 1: analytics heavy, and I just think it's the cycle is
Speaker 1: going to bring it back to Hey, we still need
Speaker 1: those baseball guys that have that that pass the eye test.
Speaker 1: I love that Mookie Bets was on display for the
Speaker 1: nation to see, because I baseball has become regional, but
Speaker 1: I'm I'm glad that people got to see him. And
Speaker 1: he does everything. He's not one dimensional, which a lot
Speaker 1: of our baseball players now are one dimensional or it
Speaker 1: feels that way. He did it on the basis. He
Speaker 1: did it in the field, he did it at the plate,
Speaker 1: and I can't say enough about him. I love watching
Speaker 1: him play. I think he's very smart. He's not a
Speaker 1: big guy, but he's not afraid. And I know Seeger
Speaker 1: got the MVP. I think that, you know, I think
Speaker 1: Mookie was the MVD the Most Valuable Dodger. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: think so. I mean, I think he put them over
Speaker 1: the top two. I think without Mookie Bets, they don't
Speaker 1: win the whole thing and you're right, Danny Man. When
Speaker 1: you watch him play, it's everything you'd want to bring
Speaker 1: your son to watch, Like, you know, hey, watch this
Speaker 1: guy hit. Then when he gets on base, it's like, okay,
Speaker 1: now you're a base runner, you know. He he does everything.
Speaker 1: The way he cuts the corners, the way he gets jumps.
Speaker 1: I loved it. Last night after the game, they asked
Speaker 1: him about, you know, the read he got, you know,
Speaker 1: scoring scoring from third base, and he said, hey, listen,
Speaker 1: I knew I needed to get a big secondary. I
Speaker 1: knew I needed to get going quickly, and I was
Speaker 1: able to do that. Like, I just love the fact
Speaker 1: that he runs the base as well. He plays gold
Speaker 1: glove defense, He hustles on and off the field, he
Speaker 1: can hit. He just does everything that you would want
Speaker 1: to see a baseball player do, and that's why he's
Speaker 1: one of the best in the game. I brought this
Speaker 1: up to the commissioner last week, where I understand you're
Speaker 1: gonna have a shift, but I can't have I would
Speaker 1: prefer not to have the shortstop on the other side
Speaker 1: of second base or second base on the other side
Speaker 1: of you know, second base with the shortstop. I just
Speaker 1: don't want extreme shifts. Is that Am I asking too much? There?
Speaker 1: Is it fixable? I mean I kind of feel the
Speaker 1: same way you do. I don't know, like is it
Speaker 1: like the illegal defense kind of thing in the NBA
Speaker 1: or you know what I mean. I think I feel
Speaker 1: the same way sometimes too. And you know, it's such
Speaker 1: a big deal now, just such a big thing to see. Hey,
Speaker 1: guys are beating the shift in the postseason. They're going
Speaker 1: the other way. They're staying inside it, you know, And
Speaker 1: and you know people always say, well, if they start
Speaker 1: to do that, they'll they'll shift back. Well, you're not
Speaker 1: gonna ask your big power hitters to just beat the
Speaker 1: shift all the time. You've got to actually hit the
Speaker 1: ball out of the ballpark nowadays in this game. But
Speaker 1: I agree with you, man, I don't. I don't love
Speaker 1: the shift. And I know people say, hey, it's a
Speaker 1: strategy thing. I get it, but you know, everyone's on
Speaker 1: one side of the field, and like, I don't. I
Speaker 1: don't love it. And the Justin Turner situation last night,
Speaker 1: Like how bizarre is this that in the middle of
Speaker 1: Game six of the World Series. I mean, I don't
Speaker 1: know what would happen if there was a Game seven
Speaker 1: because Justin Turner was around all of his teammates. I mean,
Speaker 1: nothing had changed. It felt like once the game started, Sean,
Speaker 1: then you know what, everybody gets to play the rest
Speaker 1: of the game. I don't know, it just felt you
Speaker 1: imagine this in the Super Bowl third quarter, somebody's you know,
Speaker 1: they have an inconclusive test and then they take another
Speaker 1: one and they go out and play, and then they
Speaker 1: go in the third quarter, hey, uh you know, Tom Brady,
Speaker 1: come here, you gotta sit down. You tested positive. Oh
Speaker 1: my gosh, no, I mean seriously, I mean it's crazy.
Speaker 1: It's almost part for the course for this year. You know,
Speaker 1: it's just oh, the World Series, you're number three hitter
Speaker 1: has COVID in the middle of the game. It's crazy.
Speaker 1: And it was weird because Joe Buck kept saying, you know,
Speaker 1: Turners out of the game while to find out why.
Speaker 1: I mean, I never would have in my wildest dreams thought, yeah,
Speaker 1: he left the game in the middle of the game
Speaker 1: with COVID, Like that's just crazy. And then you're run
Speaker 1: onto the field too, you know, after this, and he
Speaker 1: had been told he'd been told not to go out
Speaker 1: there on the field. I know, you want to celebrate
Speaker 1: but and maybe he thought, look, I've been around these guys,
Speaker 1: I'm going out there to celebrate. I understand where what
Speaker 1: his thought process is. But for major League Baseball, you
Speaker 1: can't let Justin Turner go out there. If you're pulling
Speaker 1: in from the game, you can't go on the field
Speaker 1: to celebrate. Yeah, I'm sure emotions were so high with
Speaker 1: with Turner and that, you know, I don't know, you know,
Speaker 1: I don't know what I would have done there, But yeah,
Speaker 1: you're right. I mean, it's it's one of those things
Speaker 1: where it's a very touchy thing and you know you
Speaker 1: don't want to put other people in danger. Well, I
Speaker 1: would want to go out and celebrate with my teammates.
Speaker 1: I don't even know if I'll be with the Dodgers
Speaker 1: next year. He's a free agent. I understand it's the best,
Speaker 1: biggest moment of your baseball career, but major League Baseball
Speaker 1: or the Dodgers have to say just you can't go
Speaker 1: out there, I can't go out Yeah, I mean it's tough. Yep,
Speaker 1: I agree, I agree with you. Anybody had more energy
Speaker 1: than you. Yeah, Brett Phillips, I think, does did you
Speaker 1: ever have a manager get talked out of taking a
Speaker 1: pitch like you would be on the mound at first base.
Speaker 1: Did you ever hear a conversation where a pitcher talked
Speaker 1: his manager out of taking him out of a game?
Speaker 1: Was there any weird let me see him right? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm sure I did. I can't think it went off
Speaker 1: the off the top of my head. It doesn't. I didn't.
Speaker 1: It didn't happen too often. I mean, there might have
Speaker 1: been one or two times, but you know, I'm sure
Speaker 1: I did it. But I you know, I love it.
Speaker 1: I love it when when you you're able to have
Speaker 1: that conversation, if the manager comes out and the and
Speaker 1: the pitcher says, no, I'm not coming out of this game.
Speaker 1: And you know, I don't know if that happens the
Speaker 1: way it did back in the day, Danny, but you know,
Speaker 1: I've seen it a couple of times. You never went
Speaker 1: to the manager and said, you know what, I think
Speaker 1: you should pull him? No, I never did, never, did
Speaker 1: you know? I kind of relied on the manager to
Speaker 1: just to just you know, do that. I remember Dave
Speaker 1: Dave Miley one Dave Miley one time came out to
Speaker 1: the mountain. He was like, we came, you know, we
Speaker 1: were meeting at the mountain, hadn't got anybody. He's like,
Speaker 1: about to get the lefty. He looked at me, He's like,
Speaker 1: in case, I gotta go with the lefty right here.
Speaker 1: I'm like, I don't know. I just played first, mate,
Speaker 1: that's your decision. I don't know, get the lefty, the
Speaker 1: right whoever? You just do it. Did a pitcher ever
Speaker 1: ask the manager to have you pulled from the game? Yes, yes, Oh,
Speaker 1: thanks for getting up. Always great to see you. Enjoy
Speaker 1: the off season there, Sean, thank you, buddy. Okay, Danny,
Speaker 1: thanks a lot man. Brother. That's Sean Casey. Uh. He's
Speaker 1: always got energy, like I get energy from his energy.
Speaker 1: All right, we'll take a break. More phone calls coming up,
Speaker 1: and once again we'll talk to Dave Roberts, the Dodger manager,
Speaker 1: coming up at the top of the arm. When we
Speaker 1: come back, Trevor Lawrence leaves the window open possible return
Speaker 1: to Clemson. We'll hear from the QB after this. Thanks
Speaker 1: for listening to The Dan Patrick Show podcast. Be sure
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Speaker 1: or stream us live on the Peacock app. Paully has
Speaker 1: a fresh poll question here. I'll get to that coming
Speaker 1: up in a moment. I just got this from college
Speaker 1: football source Wisconsin Update. Graham Mertz in all likelihood had
Speaker 1: COVID prior to the game against Illinois, but tested negative.
Speaker 1: Was at all the team activities leading up to the game,
Speaker 1: So it's spread throughout the team a significant number of
Speaker 1: positives this week game with Nebraska growing doubtful. The Big
Speaker 1: Ten didn't build in buys into its schedule. We don't
Speaker 1: know the extent of this. Once again, this is just
Speaker 1: a source who has been on and been correct with
Speaker 1: everything that he's given me throughout this college football season,
Speaker 1: and just said that there's a lot of positive tests,
Speaker 1: positive results with the Wisconsin football team and that game
Speaker 1: is growing doubtful game against Nebraska. Trevor Lawrence left the
Speaker 1: door open at least a window that he might come
Speaker 1: back to Clemson and play another season. Here is the
Speaker 1: Clemson quarterback yesterday. Kind of my mindset has been that
Speaker 1: I'm going to move on, but who knows. There's a
Speaker 1: lot of things that could happen. God has a plan
Speaker 1: for me, no matter where that is, no matter where
Speaker 1: I go, that's across the country, well, that's close to home,
Speaker 1: where I stay another year. No matter what it is.
Speaker 1: You know, we'll work it out. Yeah, I mean it's
Speaker 1: smart to leave the door open. I don't know if
Speaker 1: this is breaking news. We talked about it that, you know,
Speaker 1: he could say that he's going to stay. I don't
Speaker 1: know what reasons he would be given. You know, I
Speaker 1: don't know if somebody pressed him and say, what are
Speaker 1: the reasons why you wouldn't go to the NFL? That
Speaker 1: he said a lot of things can change, Mike, what
Speaker 1: in his mind? I'd like to know. You know, what's
Speaker 1: going to change my mind is if the Jets don't
Speaker 1: win a game this year. Now, if he said that,
Speaker 1: then I would love that. But of course he's not
Speaker 1: going to. But it didn't what. I want to impressed
Speaker 1: a little bit on this, just to say, like, what
Speaker 1: are the factors why you wouldn't go to the NFL? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm cleman. Couldn't it be that if Clemson doesn't win
Speaker 1: the title or he doesn't win that But I want
Speaker 1: him telling me those things. Yeah, even if it's not true.
Speaker 1: But if he says, Look, I want to play in
Speaker 1: front of a crowd. I want to win another national title.
Speaker 1: If I don't win the Heisman, I'd like to give
Speaker 1: the you know, the school a Heisman trophy. Like there
Speaker 1: could be things he could say. I just want to know.
Speaker 1: It's not why would you come back to Clemson? It's
Speaker 1: why wouldn't you go to the NFL? Is how I
Speaker 1: would phrase it? Yes, till now? Is he helping to
Speaker 1: be selected by a good team? He doesn't know how
Speaker 1: this works. Usually the team with the worst record gets
Speaker 1: that first pick. He's gonna end up on a bad
Speaker 1: team whether he comes out. He's not saying that. He's not.
Speaker 1: We're saying that, like, who would want to play for
Speaker 1: the Jets? I don't know what his thought process is.
Speaker 1: He might say, Hey, whoever takes me number one, just
Speaker 1: being the number one pick in the draft, I'll go
Speaker 1: wherever I'm told to go. It'd be an honor to
Speaker 1: be the number one pick in the draft. I mean
Speaker 1: that's what he would He should say. Yeah, if he
Speaker 1: wasn't comfortable with the Jets and loew of forcing a trade,
Speaker 1: Andrew Luck went back to college and stayed the extra
Speaker 1: year and Peyton Manning stayed extra year. Those are the
Speaker 1: two biggest short thing number one picks I think of
Speaker 1: our lifetime, like Trevor Lawrences. But didn't those decisions hinge
Speaker 1: on the team that was going to be drafting them?
Speaker 1: That Andrew luck didn't want to go to Carolina and
Speaker 1: Peyton Manning would have gone to the Jets. So that
Speaker 1: that's why they decided to go back, right, yeah, mclovin. Well,
Speaker 1: Andrew Brant was on the show and said that everyone knew.
Speaker 1: He said it like everyone knew Andrew Lucty want to
Speaker 1: go to the Panthers. Apparently NFL media world did not
Speaker 1: know that because exploded. I didn't remember that. Maybe that's true,
Speaker 1: but people are like, wait, Andrew want to go to
Speaker 1: the Panthers. I didn't remember that. And when Andrew Brand,
Speaker 1: who worked with the Packers, was I mean Andrew Brand
Speaker 1: also dropped the bombshell if David Pollock had still been
Speaker 1: on the board, the Packers would have taken him instead
Speaker 1: of Aaron Rodgers. He was a great guest, but I
Speaker 1: love what teams are like, Oh, I was going to
Speaker 1: take that coin. That's my favorite. That's my favorite game.
Speaker 1: When you hear you know what we were thinking about
Speaker 1: taking Russell Wilson. He went through this first round. In
Speaker 1: second round, you could have had him. Oh, we were
Speaker 1: thinking about taking Dak Prescott. You could have had a chance.
Speaker 1: All right, here's the new poll question. Let's assume the
Speaker 1: Jets have the number one pick in the draft in August.
Speaker 1: Next August, Trevor Lawrence will be a New York Jet
Speaker 1: on another team, a Clemson Tiger. And you have to
Speaker 1: have your answer today so then we can bring it
Speaker 1: back in August, Todd, Trevor Lawrence will be a Jet,
Speaker 1: all right, mclovin Jets, Jet, Jets, Jet, all right. Seton
Speaker 1: O'Connor junior. The third another team, all right, PAULI esther
Speaker 1: another team. I'm gonna go another team as well. Now
Speaker 1: round two, do we guess that team? No? I can't
Speaker 1: do that. It's way too much pressure on me. A
Speaker 1: couple of phone calls in here Al in Atlanta, Hi, Al,
Speaker 1: hen Hew, how are you doing great? Uh? Sorry? Am
Speaker 1: I the only person who is sick and tired of
Speaker 1: these IVY League no it all piquing their taped up
Speaker 1: frames on top of a screen, ruining sports, but the
Speaker 1: best game of a world series in my lifetime, although
Speaker 1: it is a sad memory is Game seven of the
Speaker 1: ninety one World Series, Johnsmult Jack Morris dealing late into
Speaker 1: the game and we're never going to see that anymore.
Speaker 1: And it's even spilling over into football ruining going forward
Speaker 1: on fourth down because teams are doing it in the
Speaker 1: second quarter because the analytics say that gives him a
Speaker 1: higher chance of winning. Like it's it's ruining sports, Dan,
Speaker 1: I know, I know, well, yeah, why does the two
Speaker 1: point play ruined sports? Though? It is that more exciting
Speaker 1: than the extra point? I'm okay with the two point conversion.
Speaker 1: It's just when they take out the book and then
Speaker 1: they go, okay, no, we don't go for it now,
Speaker 1: we'll go for it at a certain point in a
Speaker 1: different order, but we would rip the Remember herm Edwards
Speaker 1: would screw up all those decisions that people would kill him.
Speaker 1: Jared in Wisconsin, Hi, Jared ADP. Thanks for having me.
Speaker 1: Long time listener. Lenine five Um, I just want to
Speaker 1: give a huge shout out to the Dodgers ball club.
Speaker 1: I'm born and raised in LA A lot of heartbreak
Speaker 1: over the last couple of years. My dad raised me
Speaker 1: a huge Dodger fan. I grew up at Dodger Stadium.
Speaker 1: This was the first season that I didn't have him around.
Speaker 1: He passed away August of nineteen, and I didn't have
Speaker 1: him around to hug or call or anything when they won,
Speaker 1: and he was always there for me when they lost.
Speaker 1: So I just want to give a shout out to
Speaker 1: him for always supporting this club and to the entire
Speaker 1: organization for a job well done. It's been an absolute
Speaker 1: pleasure to watch in this crazy, crazy season. And yeah,
Speaker 1: it was fun. And uh, you know, congratulations on that.
Speaker 1: I think we all, if you're of a certain age,
Speaker 1: you're sharing those moments with your father, not all of us.
Speaker 1: And Paul, sorry, Paul, all right, your dad died when
Speaker 1: you were eleven. Yeah, he was killed on Holloway too,
Speaker 1: a couple of days away from now. Thanks for bringing
Speaker 1: that dude in the la Oh, Dodgers appreciate. I was
Speaker 1: kind of in a good mood. Yeah, sorry about that.
Speaker 1: I love my kids. Come home with the candy. M Well,
Speaker 1: it's not like you would have had great memories watching
Speaker 1: the Cubs back then. They weren't any good. Yeah, my
Speaker 1: dad have no good memories and he kicked before the
Speaker 1: eighty five Bears too, the Ultimate as salt in my wound. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm over it. How how old was your dad when
Speaker 1: he done? Todd? How old Howard? I was a I
Speaker 1: was just getting He was just graduating college. Okay. I
Speaker 1: was twenty two. He think he was like forty eight
Speaker 1: or something. Okay, So he had a couple of memories there.
Speaker 1: Still said thank you, Todd. I graduated nyas away in
Speaker 1: November ninety one, the day of the New York City Marathon.
Speaker 1: So I don't like the marathon. Are you sadder than
Speaker 1: Paul he is? Uh, we're debating the grieving place. I
Speaker 1: wish Paul would have had many, many more years with
Speaker 1: his part, I'll say that. Yeah, but they didn't even
Speaker 1: get to go out Halloween. He did go trick or treating.
Speaker 1: Thanks for bringing that up, Toad. We hope to hear
Speaker 1: from Dave Roberts, the Dodgers manager, and the Bills quarterback
Speaker 1: Josh Allen here on the Dan Patricks I'm gonna call
Speaker 1: my dad