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Speaker 1: It's time to get inside the Giants.

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Speaker 2: Hunt's let's go, Let's go get my Giants, bubble, give

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Speaker 2: me some joms.

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Speaker 1: Part of the Giants Podcast Network. Let's roll. Welcome to

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Speaker 1: another edition The Giants Little Podcast, brought to you by Citizens,

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Speaker 1: the official bank of the Giants. I am John Schmelk,

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Speaker 1: second straight year kind enough to join us. It's JJ

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Speaker 1: after Dark, John de Streemsky from the Ring of New York,

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Speaker 1: New York Podcast and everything else that you're up to.

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Speaker 1: S n hy Wright still everything he's doing. JJ can

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Speaker 1: see you, brother.

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Speaker 2: It's a kind of introduction. I'm glad that we've made

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Speaker 2: this down like a yearly occurrence, so I make my

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Speaker 2: check out. The Giant camp wasn't too hot today, nice

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Speaker 2: in and out practice, and I know the next couple

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Speaker 2: of days are going to be massive lions coming in

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Speaker 2: a little test before the start of the regular season.

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Speaker 2: But schmeut, it's pleasure to be with you, man.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we'll see when this goes up. So just so

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Speaker 1: we time stamping this this spoiled no no, no, no,

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Speaker 1: that's good because I like to tell people this because

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Speaker 1: if we put it up later, like, well, why did

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Speaker 1: they talk about that big injury. Well, it's Sunday, August fourth,

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Speaker 1: So if something happens to me now when we post that,

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Speaker 1: that's why we didn't talk about it. Your oppressions, it

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Speaker 1: was it was kind of a quiet practice today, only

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Speaker 1: two competitive team sessions. Uh, just what was your reaction

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Speaker 1: seeing what was going on?

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Speaker 2: So again, you don't want to get notes one way

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Speaker 2: or another with training camp. Looking at that defensive front, now,

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Speaker 2: it's gonna require all three guys staying healthy, which in

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Speaker 2: an NFL season can be problematic. The Giants and many

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Speaker 2: other teams can tell you about that. But my goodness,

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Speaker 2: having Brian Burns, Keevon Thabodeau, and Dexter Larrens on a

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Speaker 2: defensive line, that to me is what the Giants have

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Speaker 2: been with her at the best. You know, you think

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Speaker 2: about their glory days, their glory years, the ELI Tom teams,

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Speaker 2: it was talk, it was you and your it was

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Speaker 2: straight Hank Kimonoka, zillion guys would get after the quarterback.

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Speaker 2: That pass rush. That's gotta be the anchor, the hallmark,

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Speaker 2: the real deal. And watching those guys kind of get

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Speaker 2: after Daniel Jones, You're gonna be happy he's getting it.

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Speaker 2: They're getting after different guys, not your quarterback.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, line's coming up. And by the way, I love

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Speaker 1: that is a very super Bowl forty two ash shat

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Speaker 1: you got Arizona?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, very much so Chief one but close enough.

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Speaker 1: No, Well, the colors, you know we had like the

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Speaker 1: maroon and green in two thousand and seven and I

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Speaker 1: saw Glennam I got that.

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Speaker 2: That's good memories.

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Speaker 1: Yes, Giants trying to make some more good memories this week.

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Speaker 1: So when you go against the joint practice, you're someone

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Speaker 1: that's done this a long time. What do you think

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Speaker 1: a team gets out of those and and why do

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Speaker 1: you think they're exciting?

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Speaker 2: So to me, it's the idea that you're measuring yourself

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Speaker 2: against another team. You know, you're going through the entire

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Speaker 2: OTA session. You're going through all these training camp practices

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Speaker 2: where hey, it's all one offense against our one defense.

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Speaker 2: So maybe you're mixing a match in a little bit,

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Speaker 2: but it's all within the building when you get outside

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Speaker 2: the building, and I think for the Giants, especially Monday

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Speaker 2: and Tuesday, you're looking at a team in Detroit where

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Speaker 2: you say, wow, they were in the NFC Championship game

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Speaker 2: last year and a seventeen point league a couple of

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Speaker 2: been the NFC champ As far as I'm concerned, how

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Speaker 2: do we match up with hey is Aiden Hutchinson? Is

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Speaker 2: Uhla Port and everybody that they have. It's I think

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Speaker 2: it brings the competitive juices and I think it'll be

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Speaker 2: cool to see. Okay, Giants now have kind of tweaked

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Speaker 2: their team a little bit. They should be better on defense.

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Speaker 2: We'll see how the offense looks without Sakwon Barkley improvements

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Speaker 2: on the offensive line. It kind of all right, how

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree with you, So let's stick with defense.

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Speaker 1: Them as you already brought up the front Lions top

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Speaker 1: They don't have a weakness across the line. You mentioned

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Speaker 1: That to me is the most exciting matchup because you

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Speaker 2: Doubt about it. And listen Detroit's offensive line. They've put

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Speaker 2: a lot of resources from draft picks to salary cap space,

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Speaker 2: you name it in protecting Jared Goff. But it's worked

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Speaker 1: And he's a guy that needs it because he's not

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Speaker 2: He's dying and you also see with him when he

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Speaker 2: gets pressured, he gets flustered. He's one of those guys

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Speaker 2: if you can rattle him and get to him, you

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Speaker 2: kind of notice the difference. Queen pocket Jared Goff MESSI

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Speaker 2: pockets after a golf So yeah, I think that's a

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Speaker 2: great test right out of the gate. And look, you

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Speaker 2: it's the sort of measuring stick that you say, Okay,

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Speaker 2: this is what if we want to be the team

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Speaker 1: No, absolutely agree with you, And I think what you

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Speaker 1: worry about heading into the practice is your secondary right.

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Speaker 1: You have Deantay Banks. You feel pretty good about him

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Speaker 1: How that young group performs against goff and this pretty

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Speaker 1: impressive set of Lions wide receivers. I'm excited to see

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Speaker 2: Listening a lot of inexperience for the Giants in that secondary,

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Speaker 2: a lot of inexperience. They lose McKinney and what an

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Speaker 2: it's simplistic, it's kind of football one O one. But

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Speaker 2: the Giants secondary holding up over long stretches, long periods

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Speaker 2: these inexperienced guys kind of up to speed. Yes, Banks,

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Speaker 2: you expect big step forward year one, a year two,

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Speaker 2: but that's something to keep in mind. Hey, defensive line,

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Speaker 2: lot of resources, We put a lot into you, guys.

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Speaker 2: You kind of gotta be our dudes.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, a great test if you get the rookie

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Speaker 1: Andrew Phillips on a mon Ros Saint Brown in the

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Speaker 1: slot a lot, that'll be fun to watch. We were

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Speaker 1: surprised to see Christian Wilkins brought up in hard knocks

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Speaker 1: as I was defense, I don't know. JJ's a Dolphins

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Speaker 1: that whole thing for him.

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Speaker 2: Well and listen, I understand he and Dexa Lawrence are

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Speaker 2: like buddy buddy, yeah, best friends. No, I get that

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Speaker 2: whole angle, But to me, it was far more imperative

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Speaker 2: for the Giants to go and get an edge guy,

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Speaker 2: exactly that sort of edge defensive end. Hey, I'm an athlete.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna get past you. I just think their skill

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Speaker 2: And I'm not saying Wilkens would have had success yet,

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Speaker 2: of course he would have crazy'd be playing with good talent.

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Speaker 2: But I think for the scheme fit for what they

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Speaker 2: cault going again Brian Burns, this just funny.

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Speaker 1: After that. If I'm sure you watched The Hard Knocks,

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Speaker 1: I out the one to talk to you about that too,

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Speaker 1: But uh, after I think it was episode one they

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Speaker 1: things like Christian Wilkins really good player, maybe not that

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Speaker 1: third down get after the quarterback pass rusher. And then

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Speaker 1: there were some smart asses on Twitter who are like, well,

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Speaker 1: guy that watches the Dolphins, he's not like your three technique,

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Speaker 1: super athletic upfield pass rusher. He's more of kind of

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Speaker 2: Guy that does a little bit of everything, right dingo,

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Speaker 2: And he's somebody that's gonna be on the field all

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Speaker 2: the time. It's impossible to get him off, which you love.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, you don't look at him as the quote

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Speaker 2: unquote prototypical pass rusher. And remember Miami last year before

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Speaker 2: at Van Ginkel. You have his buddy Stealer who played great.

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Speaker 2: So like, when you have a great, top notch defensive line,

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Speaker 2: you can go and kind of feast.

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Speaker 3: And I'm not saying that he just feasted and took advantage.

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Speaker 2: No no, no, he had some legitimate sacks, but you can

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Speaker 2: kind of shit the wealth, if that makes sense. So, uh,

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Speaker 2: I'm if I'm a Giant fan, I'm not shedding any

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Speaker 2: tears that Christian Wilkins is a raider and that Brian

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Speaker 2: Burns is a giant.

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Speaker 1: I think they're okay. So you think they made the

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Speaker 1: right move.

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Speaker 2: Yes, that's a movie like I do. I mean, listen,

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Speaker 2: you gave up a lot to get them, but this

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Speaker 2: is somebody that they've had their eyes on cry for

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Speaker 2: the last two years. You saw the whole pursuit of

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Speaker 1: That happen and got it from the throw out of

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Speaker 1: and a little bit more right.

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Speaker 2: They got the cost down. But he just kind of

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Speaker 2: fits giant. Like when I think giant prototypical pass lash yere,

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Speaker 2: Brian Burns fits that to a tee. Gotta keep him

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Speaker 2: on the field. Got those three guys. When I think

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Speaker 2: about Giant success this year, the three of what the

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Speaker 2: don't know how you are get otherwise.

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Speaker 1: One hundred percent.

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Speaker 4: You're ready for a change. Payday comes early with citizens,

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Speaker 4: So go to that retreat. Knew you moves to the country.

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Speaker 4: Now you're raising goats and launching a life's brand. Are

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Speaker 4: you ready for all that life breaks.

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Speaker 1: Well your overall impressions of Hard Knocks watching it throw.

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Speaker 2: But that to me is where, Okay, you're brought in

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Speaker 2: per game that they're giving up and compare it to

433
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Speaker 2: what the top defense was given up fifteen to twenty

434
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Speaker 2: twenty five years ago. It's drastically different. So what does

435
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Speaker 2: that mean. That means your offense has to take more advantage.

436
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Speaker 2: And to your point, they is an offense, and specifically

437
00:18:37,560 --> 00:18:40,520
Speaker 2: Daniel's quarterback, he's gotta be more aggressive. I totally agree

438
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Speaker 2: with that. And he has the arm strength. It's not

439
00:18:43,000 --> 00:18:45,919
Speaker 2: a matter of arm strength, it's not a matter of athleticism.

440
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Speaker 2: It's great. I'm seeing him move around. He looks a

441
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Speaker 2: okay after the ACL it's gripped. I equate it to

442
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Speaker 2: being on the golf course gripping and rip it. It's

443
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Speaker 2: that's what Daniel Jones is to think about when he's

444
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Speaker 2: playing quarterback.

445
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Speaker 1: He's gonna rip it. No layups in front of the

446
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Speaker 1: water has yeah, No, we gots try to shoot the green.

447
00:19:01,680 --> 00:19:05,639
Speaker 1: Bro shot the green, all right. I don't know if

448
00:19:05,640 --> 00:19:07,800
Speaker 1: the Giants are gonna be good enough to challenge them

449
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Speaker 1: in the division, but I do feel like for the

450
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Speaker 1: first time. Dallas and Philadelphia have huge questions right now.

451
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Speaker 1: Dallas all the contracts, Mike McCarthy, two rookies on the

452
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Speaker 1: offensive line potentially, and then just the way the Eagles

453
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Speaker 1: collapsed last year, I don't know how you could be

454
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Speaker 1: sure that they're Oh they got two new corners though,

455
00:19:24,840 --> 00:19:26,800
Speaker 1: bounce back, they'll be fine. I just don't know how

456
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Speaker 1: to view what's going on down there either, So that's interesting.

457
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Speaker 2: I understand that sentiment with Philly, because you're right, they

458
00:19:33,119 --> 00:19:36,080
Speaker 2: were ten and one, ten and two tank They had

459
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Speaker 2: some awful losses, the Seattle loss on a Monday and

460
00:19:38,760 --> 00:19:41,560
Speaker 2: night to Drew Locke. You think about the Giant game

461
00:19:41,560 --> 00:19:44,400
Speaker 2: at the end of the years, the Divisions, the Buck game.

462
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Speaker 2: They were not ready to play. H Sirianni was everybody's

463
00:19:47,480 --> 00:19:50,439
Speaker 2: dawning two years ago, and now he's going to be

464
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Speaker 2: a coach. If the Eagles don't go and have a

465
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Speaker 2: great season, he's going to be on the major scrutiny

466
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Speaker 2: and he's going to be under fire. That said, though

467
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Speaker 2: I like them the best. Oh, they're so talent, but

468
00:20:00,359 --> 00:20:01,800
Speaker 2: by far the most talented, and I know that it

469
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Speaker 2: was Kelsey, which is a big loss. Not only Kelsey

470
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Speaker 2: maybe wasn't the center he was three or four years ago.

471
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Speaker 2: But we know we's such a good guy. He such

472
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Speaker 2: a heart and soul guy. How today replace that? But

473
00:20:11,560 --> 00:20:14,640
Speaker 2: I think the defense gets after the quarterback huff. They're

474
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Speaker 2: getting him from the Jets.

475
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Speaker 1: I love him as a pass rusher.

476
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Speaker 2: That's a guy who's gonna go get twelve thirteen sacks

477
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Speaker 2: on that team. I know you'll have a monster year.

478
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Speaker 2: And obviously sae Quon coing to that team, he's got

479
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Speaker 2: something to prove. He's playing with some of the most

480
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Speaker 2: talent he's ever played with. I think you get a

481
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Speaker 2: big year out of Barkley. Now I'm with you with Cowboys.

482
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Speaker 2: The only thing with Dallas, I'll say everything you alluded

483
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Speaker 2: to about the contracts, Dak Ceedee, Lamb, Michael Parsons, McCarthy's future,

484
00:20:42,200 --> 00:20:45,360
Speaker 2: it's all there, and it seems so obvious for them

485
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Speaker 2: to be a team to take a step back. I

486
00:20:47,800 --> 00:20:50,359
Speaker 2: almost think John, it's become a little too trendy.

487
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Speaker 1: I agree with that.

488
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Speaker 2: Just like from everyone you talk to, it's like Dallas

489
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Speaker 2: is not gonna be and I'm not necessarily suggesting it

490
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Speaker 2: will be any different for Dallas, But like McCarthy gets

491
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Speaker 2: teams to the playoffs, like I thought.

492
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Speaker 1: I don't know if they're getting to twelve, but if

493
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Speaker 1: they got to ten and maybe, I honestly you would

494
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Speaker 1: expect to your.

495
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Speaker 2: Overall point about the division not being at the top

496
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Speaker 2: as strong as it's been. I definitely feel that way

497
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Speaker 2: with the Cowboys, and I mean waiting to see more

498
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Speaker 2: with the Eagles.

499
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Speaker 1: Fair your thoughts on the tour contract. Going back to Miami.

500
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Speaker 2: I think Miami had no choice. I mean, you have

501
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Speaker 2: a quarterback that led the league in passing passing yards

502
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Speaker 2: last year, and I understand the system. People are gonna say, oh,

503
00:21:30,640 --> 00:21:33,399
Speaker 2: you got Tyreek and you got Jaylen Waddell. Look at

504
00:21:33,440 --> 00:21:36,360
Speaker 2: what the Dolphin offense looked like two years ago, went

505
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Speaker 2: to it in play If anybody can go and play

506
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Speaker 2: quarterback in that system, then why didn't Teddy Bridgewater and

507
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Speaker 2: why didn't Skywick Thompson go and put up monstrous numbers?

508
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Speaker 2: I get it. There are durability concerns about TOUA. There

509
00:21:49,320 --> 00:21:52,960
Speaker 2: are weather concerns. We saw that in Kansas City. Now,

510
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Speaker 2: to be fair about Kansas City, I don't think there

511
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Speaker 2: were any teams maybe one or two that will go

512
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Speaker 2: into that building and win that game in.

513
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Speaker 1: Those conditions, especially with how good the chief defense is.

514
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Speaker 2: Chief defense was great. The Dolphins were signing guys off

515
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Speaker 2: the streak to get after the quarterback. Literally, they signed

516
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Speaker 2: I think Melvin Ingram, they signed Justin Houston, and they

517
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Speaker 2: signed Bruce Irvin. I mean, it would have been great

518
00:22:20,640 --> 00:22:24,320
Speaker 2: ten years ago had those guys, but they literally signed

519
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Speaker 2: them before a playoff game. And listen to a point,

520
00:22:27,840 --> 00:22:30,520
Speaker 2: terribly in the game. The offense played terribly in the game.

521
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Speaker 2: I don't think a lot of teams are winning that game.

522
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Speaker 2: But the point being this, Mike McDaniel is the face

523
00:22:36,600 --> 00:22:39,880
Speaker 2: of the Miami dolphinse he is the guy. He's got

524
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Speaker 2: all this quirky zany energy he's transformed to as a player.

525
00:22:45,160 --> 00:22:47,440
Speaker 2: If he goes and tells Steven Ross, hey, guess what

526
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Speaker 2: that is my quarterback?

527
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Speaker 1: I want a backing man?

528
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Speaker 2: Then what is the hold up? And you know my

529
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Speaker 2: counter to anybody who's gonna get onto it. Listen, you

530
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Speaker 2: got paid a ton of money. I understand that Trevor

531
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Speaker 2: Lawrence and two have had similar careers. Two has been

532
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Speaker 2: better in the regular seasons. Hey, with Herbert right, they're

533
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Speaker 2: all on the same Herbert everybody. And I understand Herbert's

534
00:23:05,320 --> 00:23:08,160
Speaker 2: that a terrible head coach, right, awful head coach. He

535
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Speaker 2: has accomplished the same amount in the regular season at

536
00:23:11,600 --> 00:23:13,280
Speaker 2: two has you could argue too of him. Maybe it's

537
00:23:13,280 --> 00:23:15,800
Speaker 2: been even better in the regular season statistically speaking. Sure,

538
00:23:16,040 --> 00:23:18,719
Speaker 2: And these guys got paid. Jared Goff got paid. So

539
00:23:18,960 --> 00:23:21,600
Speaker 2: if you too, Hey, last two years, we'll get my numbers.

540
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Speaker 2: Pay me.

541
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Speaker 4: You love turf, You're good at it. So you start

542
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Speaker 4: a turf fizz business grows, your savings grow, become the

543
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Speaker 4: most celebrated name in turf. Are you ready for all

544
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Speaker 4: that life rings?

545
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Speaker 1: And this is why I gotta imagine the Cowboy's gonna

546
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Speaker 1: pay dak right, I mean, I just can't imagine them

547
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Speaker 1: going back into like the Quincy Carter quarterback wilderness that

548
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Speaker 1: they were.

549
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Speaker 2: Ye, that's the problem you run into if you're gonna

550
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Speaker 2: go and play horrorball, and they have and now they're gonna.

551
00:23:52,440 --> 00:23:54,719
Speaker 2: Let mean, dak Is probably get at these contracts saying hey,

552
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Speaker 2: I'm doing this in a year six orble more, give

553
00:23:57,480 --> 00:24:01,800
Speaker 2: me fifty five sixty? Why not? So it's why, more

554
00:24:01,840 --> 00:24:04,399
Speaker 2: than anything, when you have these guys on the rookie

555
00:24:04,440 --> 00:24:08,200
Speaker 2: deal side of you really you really want to capitalize.

556
00:24:08,280 --> 00:24:10,520
Speaker 2: That's why Philadelphia was able to do it those first

557
00:24:10,560 --> 00:24:13,639
Speaker 2: couple of years with turl and Hurts. We've seen it

558
00:24:13,720 --> 00:24:14,320
Speaker 2: with other teams.

559
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Speaker 1: Now Houston's trying to do with Stroud. They made all

560
00:24:16,200 --> 00:24:17,520
Speaker 1: those moves in the off season and trying to make

561
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Speaker 1: the move with Stroud on it.

562
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Speaker 2: And listen, he was awesome last year. Demico Ryans looks

563
00:24:22,000 --> 00:24:23,480
Speaker 2: like he's going to be a really good head coach.

564
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Speaker 2: They've become a little too trending.

565
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Speaker 1: I'm totally with you. It's like Oha. Their schedule was

566
00:24:27,960 --> 00:24:30,960
Speaker 1: easy last year, nine wins.

567
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Speaker 2: And that division is tough, and if people think it's not,

568
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Speaker 2: it's not a cakewalk division.

569
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Speaker 3: In my opinion, those teams will be competitive.

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Speaker 1: I'm with you. I think Houston lit through trendy. All right,

571
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Speaker 1: give me we mentioned a couple of the already. Give

572
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Speaker 1: me a couple of teams that either you think are

573
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Speaker 1: trending too high, trending too low, surprises this year, anything

574
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Speaker 1: else you kind of have on your mind heading into

575
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Speaker 1: the regular season.

576
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Speaker 2: Okay, AFC, this is gonna be obvious. I love Cincinnati.

577
00:24:52,480 --> 00:24:56,560
Speaker 2: I do. I think everybody else does. Too, but I

578
00:24:56,800 --> 00:24:59,800
Speaker 2: get borrowed back. I got all these weapons, I feel

579
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Speaker 2: like or well coached. I'm gonna be on Cincinnati, and

580
00:25:02,840 --> 00:25:07,760
Speaker 2: I think people in the AFC are sleeping on Buffalo.

581
00:25:08,359 --> 00:25:12,080
Speaker 2: I know Buffalo lost some guys on defense. I know

582
00:25:12,119 --> 00:25:15,320
Speaker 2: they lost Stefon Diggs. Stefan Diggs looks shot the second

583
00:25:15,359 --> 00:25:19,160
Speaker 2: half of the year, look totally totally cooked. So they

584
00:25:19,200 --> 00:25:21,560
Speaker 2: have the quarterback that can make things happen.

585
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Speaker 1: I think he's the second best quarterback in the sport,

586
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Speaker 1: by the way.

587
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Speaker 2: I mean, I don't think that's outrageous at all. I mean,

588
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Speaker 2: I'm putting Mahomes one. I probably would health would put

589
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Speaker 2: Burrow ahead of him, I think.

590
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Speaker 1: But health.

591
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Speaker 2: And if we're talking durability, Alan has been better. If

592
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Speaker 2: we're talking regular season numbers, guess what, right, Alan has

593
00:25:43,080 --> 00:25:47,560
Speaker 2: been better. I just think Burrow has that sort of innate.

594
00:25:47,320 --> 00:25:48,800
Speaker 1: Joe Montana thing going right.

595
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Speaker 2: Brady, He's just he's a badass. He's an assassin. That's

596
00:25:53,600 --> 00:25:56,119
Speaker 2: the best way to put it. Like, he would scare

597
00:25:56,160 --> 00:25:57,800
Speaker 2: the crap out of me if I'm playing him in

598
00:25:57,800 --> 00:26:00,119
Speaker 2: these big games. But I mean, if you're talking a

599
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Speaker 2: total package, Mahomes is won. It's easy, and I'm putting

600
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Speaker 2: Josh Allenthill, and I think Buffalo this year because of

601
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Speaker 2: their quarterback, They're gonna win a lot of games. That's

602
00:26:11,640 --> 00:26:14,440
Speaker 2: just it. Like, if he's on the field, they're gonna

603
00:26:14,440 --> 00:26:16,040
Speaker 2: win a lot of games. And you know, they.

604
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Speaker 3: Got off to that weird start last year.

605
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Speaker 2: They lost a couple of games that had no business losing.

606
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Speaker 2: The year. Yeah, I think Buffalo. I think Buffalo will

607
00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:26,880
Speaker 2: safely be a playoff team. And I think at the

608
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Speaker 2: moment then I picked to win the FCS.

609
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Speaker 1: In the NFC anyone challenge San Francisco or Detroit.

610
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Speaker 2: I like Green Bay. I like Green Bay because I

611
00:26:36,400 --> 00:26:39,000
Speaker 2: think they're well coached. I think their defense.

612
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Speaker 1: Came on now New DC too.

613
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Speaker 2: Yes, million dollar question with them. Love is he the

614
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Speaker 2: guy who was in the first half of the year

615
00:26:49,000 --> 00:26:50,520
Speaker 2: where he looked like a deer in the highlights. So

616
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Speaker 2: I'm watching him play the Raiders and I'm like, this

617
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Speaker 2: is your king? You sure about this? And then you

618
00:26:55,400 --> 00:26:58,520
Speaker 2: watch him down a stretch and you watch him in

619
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Speaker 2: Dallas torched the cow Boys in the wild card game.

620
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Speaker 2: I mean that basically earned him that two hundred and

621
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Speaker 2: fifty million dollar contract. That game, in that game alone.

622
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Speaker 2: I like their team. The South teams, I don't like

623
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Speaker 2: any of them. I mean, Atlanta is probably the best

624
00:27:12,080 --> 00:27:12,800
Speaker 2: at a bunch of bes.

625
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Speaker 1: One of those one team makes the playoffs. They win

626
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Speaker 1: the division at nine to eight and they got knock

627
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Speaker 1: out there.

628
00:27:16,760 --> 00:27:18,160
Speaker 2: You know, you know who I think could be better

629
00:27:18,160 --> 00:27:20,879
Speaker 2: than people think Arizona Cardinals. I can see that if

630
00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:24,320
Speaker 2: Kyler Murray is healthy, Gannon. Look at them, they were

631
00:27:24,359 --> 00:27:25,720
Speaker 2: in all their games.

632
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Speaker 1: Like I think they'll score. I worry about them stopping people.

633
00:27:28,240 --> 00:27:29,399
Speaker 1: I don't know about the defense.

634
00:27:29,480 --> 00:27:31,000
Speaker 2: They might be a year away.

635
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think so too.

636
00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:34,760
Speaker 2: But also the problem with that team is that they

637
00:27:34,800 --> 00:27:38,920
Speaker 2: are so tied to Kyler Murray. And you want to

638
00:27:38,920 --> 00:27:39,920
Speaker 2: talk about a quarterback that.

639
00:27:39,880 --> 00:27:42,239
Speaker 3: Cannot stay on the field, He just cannot stay on

640
00:27:42,240 --> 00:27:43,840
Speaker 3: the field. It's it's this, it's dad.

641
00:27:43,920 --> 00:27:46,200
Speaker 2: He's a small Not only is he a small guy,

642
00:27:46,560 --> 00:27:48,959
Speaker 2: he throws his body around like a rag doll.

643
00:27:49,080 --> 00:27:50,520
Speaker 1: He does so that.

644
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Speaker 2: I look at them as a surprise. Green Bay though,

645
00:27:54,920 --> 00:27:57,720
Speaker 2: and if it's not the Niners in the Super Bowl,

646
00:27:58,320 --> 00:28:00,000
Speaker 2: I would say it's either Green Bay.

647
00:27:59,920 --> 00:28:02,119
Speaker 1: Or Philadelphia more so than Detroit.

648
00:28:02,200 --> 00:28:06,160
Speaker 2: Huh. It's all asking a lot of I look at

649
00:28:06,200 --> 00:28:10,160
Speaker 2: four teams from Championship Sunday. I always feel as if

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Speaker 2: one of them is gonna be like either a French

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Speaker 2: playoff team or miss the playoffs. I feel like it

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Speaker 2: happens every year.

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Speaker 1: I could see Baltimore falling off a little bit.

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Speaker 2: Well, I could see that as well. They lost a

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Speaker 2: lot of pieces on defense, coaching and player wise, by

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Speaker 2: the way coaches defense and their offensive line is a mess.

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Speaker 2: Well Moore's another guy. Are you getting a full year

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Speaker 2: out of Lamar Jackson? But hell, for so many of

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Speaker 2: these teams, I know it sounds like such like a

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Speaker 2: cop out, lame. Oh, they gotta stay healthy. Certain teams, though,

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Speaker 2: you go and lose Lamar Jackson for eight weeks? Are you?

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Speaker 2: Are you making the playoffs? Not so sure?

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Speaker 1: Now I'm with you, and it's funny the Jordan Loved

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Speaker 1: thing and then we'll wrap you know, he was on fire,

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Speaker 1: came here, played the Giants, Giants beat the Packers. Was

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Speaker 1: he did not like I was watching him in the

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Speaker 1: games on film very for that game, I'm like, what

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Speaker 1: Jordan love? This is unbelievably shows up. He played like

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Speaker 1: trash here in that game of the Zebra and I

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Speaker 1: could have believed it, So you're right. I just won there.

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Speaker 1: Here's all the town in the world. He can he

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Speaker 1: put it together consistently. We just don't know. We shall

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Speaker 1: see JJ. This is awesome, dude. Where they can find

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Speaker 1: you and you of.

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Speaker 2: Course we got New York, New York Sunday and then

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Speaker 2: Knightly Hon the Sports night after Mets Post. That's some

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Speaker 2: why Baseball Night, New York. It's a lot.

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Speaker 3: Sorry it was a mouthful, Oh JJ, It's a pleasure man.

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Speaker 1: Always goot. Senior Bank. That's the Giants on the podcast,

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Speaker 1: brought you by Citizens Official Banking. The Giants. We'll see

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Speaker 1: you next time.

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Speaker 2: Everybody,