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Speaker 1: it is Jim Day. Up. Jim, Hey, guys, how are
Speaker 1: you doing? Thanks for having me on today. It's uh
Speaker 1: looking forward to having some fun. Absolutely, we're the Fantasy Tash.
Speaker 1: Jim Day. He's back and we were here to talk
Speaker 1: about We're gonna talk about the combine. We has a
Speaker 1: breaking football news man. Yeah, I heard Jason Witten said,
Speaker 1: you know what, I'd rather get hit by those big,
Speaker 1: strong guys than try and talk on TV anymore. Even
Speaker 1: my kids were making fun of me pretty much. It's
Speaker 1: an expression. Jason, Jason Witt and officially back with the Cowboys.
Speaker 1: Be interesting to see obviously who goes into the booth.
Speaker 1: But uh well, Jason Witt and Jim have fantasy value
Speaker 1: next year. Oh good to anybody? Would you know? His
Speaker 1: talent even older and probably a little slower, he still
Speaker 1: has so much intelligent knows them the league so well.
Speaker 1: Absolutely you'll have value. Mhm. Jason went is a great
Speaker 1: suite from a man Shawn morash Our CBS. Witten just
Speaker 1: caught nine balls in a d forty five yards two
Speaker 1: touchdown against the Giants. Just now. It's kind of how
Speaker 1: it's kind of how it feels. All I had to do,
Speaker 1: all they had to do was returned and he already
Speaker 1: had that amazing game against the Giants. Jason Witten's backage
Speaker 1: obviously the big story of the day, in a big
Speaker 1: story this week. But out of the combine gym, which
Speaker 1: is where I want to start, is obviously at the
Speaker 1: most important position, guys, and that's the quarterback position. That
Speaker 1: one number one story before Jason Witten was Kyler Murray.
Speaker 1: Was Kyler Murray coming in and what would he measure
Speaker 1: Would he be five nine? What did you get there?
Speaker 1: That's what the over under said? How big was his hands?
Speaker 1: What were we gonna do? How tall was he? What
Speaker 1: did he wear? This is crazy, it's I mean, it's absurd,
Speaker 1: it's absurd. Ultimately, Kyler Murray weighed in at like to
Speaker 1: forty or I'm sorry two oh five, excuse me to
Speaker 1: oh five weight in after playing much of the year
Speaker 1: at he ultimately is height was over five nine, closer
Speaker 1: to five ten five. And actually I got to wait
Speaker 1: at two oh seven seven. You see I saw two five.
Speaker 1: How about that? So he gave twenty two twenty two pounds?
Speaker 1: And how long? Couple months? Couple of months. I don't
Speaker 1: think that's possible unless you're doing a crazy workout regimen.
Speaker 1: You know what I mean. It's called McDonald's. Donalds will
Speaker 1: make sure you wait. You need to weigh seriousness. What
Speaker 1: does what does? Um? What is those metrics, those measurements
Speaker 1: due to Kyler Murray's draft status. Oh, of course it
Speaker 1: elevates it again, you know right now? Really what it
Speaker 1: does is it plays right into Arizona's hands. Um. You know,
Speaker 1: there's a lot of speculation in Arizona wants to take
Speaker 1: Kyler Murray and and you know, trade Josh rosen You know,
Speaker 1: there's still a lot of people out there in the
Speaker 1: industry that you know, draft you know that scout these
Speaker 1: drafts that no more than I do, that I trust
Speaker 1: that still say Kyler Murray would have been fifth or
Speaker 1: six quarterback last year, which means he would have been
Speaker 1: under Josh Rosen. Um so really plays into Arizona's hands
Speaker 1: because they're saying, well, look, everybody, Josh Rosenen is our
Speaker 1: quarterback for now. Is a perfect line because everybody out
Speaker 1: there is jumping jump and trying to figure out if
Speaker 1: they're gonna go for Murray or not. Which really makes
Speaker 1: this number one pick a big, big thing this year
Speaker 1: because you could see lots of people trying to line
Speaker 1: up and take that spot away and give away the
Speaker 1: mountain for it if they think Kyler Murray is going
Speaker 1: to be the next back, big thing. And these measurements
Speaker 1: just played right into Arizona's hands. I mean, they just
Speaker 1: have it all sitting there for him right now. Everybody
Speaker 1: you know jumping up and down for Kyler Murray up,
Speaker 1: you know, and him sitting there, and the numbers come
Speaker 1: up better than expected. Man, people are gonna be going
Speaker 1: nuts over that pick. And that what's what's really interesting.
Speaker 1: You alluded to it, Jim, that Kyler Murray might be
Speaker 1: arguably like the first quarterback on the board this year,
Speaker 1: and Dween Hassen's we'll get into a second, the second
Speaker 1: quarterback in the board this year, behind all these Desians, Chris,
Speaker 1: it was last year, behind Donald, behind Alan, behind Mayfield,
Speaker 1: behind Rosen. That's where Kyler Murray and and um jeweyt
Speaker 1: hops Hoskins supposedly come in. You don't like Haskins. I
Speaker 1: don't like Haskins at I really hope that Giants don't
Speaker 1: take him, because you know, you talk about Eli Manning
Speaker 1: not being able to move behind the pocket. Why are
Speaker 1: you going to bring in another quarterback that's even worse
Speaker 1: than he is. He has no foot movement whatsoever. If
Speaker 1: his pocket collapses or if he has to move, he
Speaker 1: is worse than Eli manually at it, and I can't
Speaker 1: say that enough. I've watched his feet a lot over
Speaker 1: the last week, and it's amazing to me. I thought
Speaker 1: he would be a good quarterback, somebody I could get behind,
Speaker 1: but after really watching him, man I don't like him.
Speaker 1: I don't. I really hope that Giants don't draft him. Really,
Speaker 1: I can't see anybody being slow. Oh yeah, look, go
Speaker 1: go watch some tape on him. Watch his feet. If
Speaker 1: the pocket collapses anywhere near him, he has lost done
Speaker 1: like that. I've pictured him more like a like a runner,
Speaker 1: like a Winston More. Oh no, he does. He doesn't
Speaker 1: move at all. He is a pure pocket passer that
Speaker 1: doesn't like a move. He has more mobility and Eli
Speaker 1: very clear by this. Yeah, he around the pocket. Go
Speaker 1: back and watch the video, guys, I'm telling it looks
Speaker 1: like it. Maybe, I mean because he's big, you know.
Speaker 1: And we're back and look at Eli. When Eli was
Speaker 1: that age, and Eli moved better than haskin stunts, that
Speaker 1: makes sense. That was not well. That was that statute, Eli,
Speaker 1: Eli meaning has always been a pockets statue. But Eli
Speaker 1: obviously had more athleticism mobility when he's younger as opposed
Speaker 1: to when he's older but old Eli, I'm pretty sure
Speaker 1: I cannot run much. But wait, wait now before you
Speaker 1: say that. Eli the second half of the last season
Speaker 1: had a much better half of the season because he
Speaker 1: was moving out in the pocket and did very well
Speaker 1: at it. Someone's say that. I don't think it gets
Speaker 1: because I don't think anybody expected that. I don't think
Speaker 1: anybody expected him to run something. I'm telling you, I
Speaker 1: don't like man. If the Giants draft Haskins, I'm done.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be coming that. That's who it looks like
Speaker 1: everybody's saying that they want because the Giants are very
Speaker 1: traditional and conservative and they'd sid once again. Yeah, no,
Speaker 1: I agree. Listen. I don't like the Giants philosophy of that,
Speaker 1: Like because the guy short, he can't be a good quarterback.
Speaker 1: Look at Russell Wilson, so that Kyler Murray is the guy.
Speaker 1: I don't know the guy this year. If the Giants
Speaker 1: drafted Kyler Murray, I'd be okay with that. Um, you know,
Speaker 1: I would overhast. I don't like Haskins at all. I
Speaker 1: think he's gonna be a terrible quarterback. I don't even
Speaker 1: think he's gonna be a starter in this league. He's
Speaker 1: gonna be a backup. Wow. I mean, I listen, I
Speaker 1: don't know. I don't really want either. But like, I
Speaker 1: wouldn't be upset if they took Murray, I wouldn't. I
Speaker 1: guess I wouldn't be upset if they took Haskins either,
Speaker 1: because I honestly just want to see more of these guys.
Speaker 1: I want to see them in the NFL. It's a
Speaker 1: whole different animal than college football. Obviously, they both died
Speaker 1: extremely well in college. This is why they're the top
Speaker 1: two quarters going. But what you said it before, it's interesting.
Speaker 1: Would Murray and Haskins go after all the quarterbacks that
Speaker 1: were drafted in the first round last year? I don't know.
Speaker 1: I feel like Murray would get drifted ahead of Rosen
Speaker 1: and maybe even Alan. I don't think he would have Mann. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so dos Rosen. It's just that offense just didn't come
Speaker 1: together in any way, shape or form. Can look, we
Speaker 1: put all of it on Rosen, but we really can't.
Speaker 1: The offensive line was terrible, the offensive you know, system
Speaker 1: was terrible for most of the year. So we can't
Speaker 1: put it all on Rosen. So, you know, again, most
Speaker 1: people that I respect are saying that Rosen is better
Speaker 1: than the draft class coming out now. And like I said,
Speaker 1: they put a lot more time and effort into this
Speaker 1: than I do, so I have to, you know, believe them.
Speaker 1: What do you what do you think, Jim? The odds
Speaker 1: are ultimately that Josh Rosen is not a member of
Speaker 1: the Arizona Cardinals. Would you take that bet? No? I
Speaker 1: I think he is. I think he's gonna be there
Speaker 1: starting quarterback because they're gonna turn this number one pick
Speaker 1: into a massive payment because somebody's gonna want to pay
Speaker 1: for that pick. Somebody wants that quarterback badly, and Arizona
Speaker 1: is just sitting on the gold mine. I think they're
Speaker 1: gonna stick with Rosen, and I absolutely think that they're
Speaker 1: gonna turn this into you know, either two number ones
Speaker 1: or number one and a couple of number two's and
Speaker 1: you know other things involved. I think they're gonna get
Speaker 1: a mass payoff for that number one. Kudos Arizona front office,
Speaker 1: because honestly, they are doing a really good job of
Speaker 1: really boosting up this Murray you know, uh speculation. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and you know, just making it just a guy that's
Speaker 1: just you know, going up the board. Now, obviously this
Speaker 1: helps boost his his speculation as well. Like you know,
Speaker 1: if it wasn't for all this, we wouldn't be talking.
Speaker 1: It's all hype. Hype is what pushes people up the board.
Speaker 1: And he I don't really think he should be a
Speaker 1: top ten pick, but he's going to be because all
Speaker 1: this hype, and Arizona is gonna make out on this
Speaker 1: and end up changing there, maybe their franchise around because
Speaker 1: of it, because they're gonna end up keeping Rosing. I
Speaker 1: agree with that, and they canna end up getting a
Speaker 1: lot of draft picks for that first round pick, and
Speaker 1: somebody's gonna, you know, take the bait, take you know,
Speaker 1: make the trade with Arizona, go to the first round
Speaker 1: and take Kyler Murray. I think that's gonna happen. At
Speaker 1: this point. The hype and it's keep coming. The hype.
Speaker 1: Training is still coming. It's it's getting gaining momentum after
Speaker 1: every day after this combine news with him being five ten,
Speaker 1: any momentum. So once the you know, actual draft comes,
Speaker 1: I'm forget about it. He's gonna be the number one
Speaker 1: pick overall. I don't see anyway around it. You're hyping
Speaker 1: it so much that it's insane. Maybe maybe not number one,
Speaker 1: maybe a little after, but like Arizona is the team
Speaker 1: that's you know that basically throughout this bait that said,
Speaker 1: oh we'll take Maria one overall, and you know, get
Speaker 1: every everyone interested now trading with Arizona and all this stuff.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I think that he's getting way overhyped
Speaker 1: at this point, way over hyped. Jason Witton making five
Speaker 1: million dollars for the Cowboys sin season a lot of money,
Speaker 1: a lot of money, and he doesn't have to have
Speaker 1: a microphone in his face. You probably won't even let
Speaker 1: him mike him up during the game admitting that he's
Speaker 1: gonna do a lot of blocking right after the next
Speaker 1: seven the next six minutes or so. We'll stay off
Speaker 1: the Giants, But the Giants are part of the story
Speaker 1: because you're looking at people who are gonna take a
Speaker 1: Dwayne Haskins. He's gonna take a Kyler Murray, and a
Speaker 1: lot of these teams do try to be cryptic because
Speaker 1: they're smart. The Giants have always played very open handed
Speaker 1: every single year, like you know who the Giants want
Speaker 1: going to the draft every single year, which was part
Speaker 1: of the problem with Jerry Reese and now uh, Dave
Speaker 1: get Himan is honesty while great for us as fantasy
Speaker 1: players um and as Giants fans, but in general this
Speaker 1: openness is not really great. But Dave get Him yesterday
Speaker 1: at the combine said, yeah, I really like the Kansas
Speaker 1: City model that that really works, and you need to
Speaker 1: drift the quarterback in the first round. And while he
Speaker 1: won't force one, like, I really like the quarterbacks this year,
Speaker 1: and you're like, all right, the Giants are absolutely doing this,
Speaker 1: aren't we. Wait wait wait, so he said Kansas City model.
Speaker 1: He loves the Kansas City model. He said, so does
Speaker 1: that mean Kyler Murray? Well, it means a quarterback, It
Speaker 1: means a quarterback, But like Mahomes is a little is mobile.
Speaker 1: He didn't mean Mahomes. He know he taking a quarterback
Speaker 1: tack sitting no, no, take a quarterback, sitting them for
Speaker 1: a year, under them and then starting them. Oh, you know,
Speaker 1: I love that model. Me and Jim have argued about
Speaker 1: this model multiple times on Frenzy. Uh I like sitting,
Speaker 1: having him sit under a year. Jim says, I think,
Speaker 1: you know it could work just by them starting right away.
Speaker 1: And that's true, it's happened before. But the experience, it
Speaker 1: always depends on the player. It depends So some of
Speaker 1: these guys, I mean, they've never sat in their life.
Speaker 1: You tell them they got to sit for a year,
Speaker 1: They're gonna be freaking nuts. They don't want to sit.
Speaker 1: They want to be on the field, and heck, if
Speaker 1: I got to that level at that point in my life,
Speaker 1: I would have been like, heck, no, you ain't sitting me.
Speaker 1: I want to play, you know, And I would have
Speaker 1: made that clear in these interviews that he's doing today. Um,
Speaker 1: you know, I'd be like, I want to start. I
Speaker 1: don't want to sit on the bench beyond somebody else
Speaker 1: for a year. Um, just the mentality of wanting to
Speaker 1: play that man. I know, not their control, but I'm
Speaker 1: pretty sure he'd be making that obvious. Nobody wants to sit,
Speaker 1: you know, nobody wants to sit. I mean, they want
Speaker 1: to play obviously. Like you know, if you're not ready
Speaker 1: and you have a veteran quarterback that could still play
Speaker 1: the game, you know, ahead of you on the depth chart,
Speaker 1: and a guy who's been a long time like the
Speaker 1: Vagiants Eli, but there for a long time. One two
Speaker 1: super bowls deserves respect, doesn't deserve to be benched over Kyler,
Speaker 1: Murray or Haskins. Um. So that's not gonna happen in
Speaker 1: New York, you know. You know Eli going to that
Speaker 1: idiot Jets cast off. Yeah, that was just a terrible decision.
Speaker 1: But you know, he'll probably be benched at some point
Speaker 1: in the season. I'm pretty sure he's not gonna do great. Uh.
Speaker 1: Even if he starts off hot and let's say we're
Speaker 1: winning games, that would be great. But at some point,
Speaker 1: whether it's week six, eight, ten, twelve, he's going to
Speaker 1: probably get benched for Murray, especially if we're having a
Speaker 1: down year again and we're rebuilding, going into that rebuilding stage.
Speaker 1: You know, sure it's gonna happen, but you know, we
Speaker 1: could be a good team. That could happen, by the way,
Speaker 1: everybody team, by the way, Jason Witten, This because from
Speaker 1: Darren revel Jason Witten was the sixty nine pick in
Speaker 1: the NFL draft, finished his career previously with sixty nine
Speaker 1: receiving touchdowns with the career long of yeah, that comes.
Speaker 1: That comes from Darren Ravelle. Unfortunately the last two will
Speaker 1: go away because people have way too much time on
Speaker 1: their hands. For Darren ravel stat man, he looks for
Speaker 1: the obscure stats. He looks he looks for stats like that.
Speaker 1: After um so, yeah, so there you go. That's it
Speaker 1: with the Giants, um and with Jason Witten. Over the
Speaker 1: next hour or so, we're gonna go over some of
Speaker 1: these top prospects. I know, Jim, you've been looking into
Speaker 1: them with look the wide receivers, the running backs, skill
Speaker 1: position players, and trying to figure out, um, what we
Speaker 1: know about these guys and where ultimately they'll fit, trying
Speaker 1: to project what we're hearing what we see. One of
Speaker 1: the other big stories coming out of the combine yesterday
Speaker 1: was the fact that Oakland Raiders, uh Mike Mayock, who
Speaker 1: certainly was a draft analyst for many many years, Max
Speaker 1: come out and said, Hey, Derek Carr's twenty eight years older,
Speaker 1: you throw the ball deep. We're not in there for
Speaker 1: a quarterback. Chris, do you believe that? I do. I'm
Speaker 1: a Derek car guy. I I do think first of Alitia,
Speaker 1: he had even though you know he wasn't throwing the
Speaker 1: ball deeper anything. He's doing a lot of checkdowns and stuff.
Speaker 1: But that's also based on the weapons. Again, he didn't
Speaker 1: have a ton of weapons. He lost Cooper at one point,
Speaker 1: and they do had like a I think a sixty
Speaker 1: nine completion percentage around there. Uh, so he could get
Speaker 1: it done. He I think he's a very accurate quarterback.
Speaker 1: He doesn't have a big arm. He's not gonna light
Speaker 1: it up with a canon like you know, Josh Allen
Speaker 1: or those guys. So the talent doesn't just sparkle like
Speaker 1: other guys. But he's very efficient, he's solid, he's smart.
Speaker 1: I think he's a guy that is hungry and wants
Speaker 1: to get it done. Like the guy had no weapons,
Speaker 1: who is he supposed to do? He he did a
Speaker 1: lot on his own, and he had a pretty pretty
Speaker 1: damn good year. I think this is a guy that
Speaker 1: they should hold on to and build the future because
Speaker 1: he's not that, he's not old, he's at his prime.
Speaker 1: He's ready to go. Do you agree Jim that ultimately
Speaker 1: the Raiders keep Derek Carr and that it's the right decision.
Speaker 1: I do think they deep keep Derek Carr. Again, we've
Speaker 1: been talking about it. These quarterbacks on most draft boards
Speaker 1: are not even you know, wouldn't have been top five
Speaker 1: last year. So why are you gonna dump somebody like
Speaker 1: car who's you know, not the greatest quarterback. But I
Speaker 1: had a decent year even like Chris said, without the
Speaker 1: weapons around him. Um, you know, if they do get
Speaker 1: him some weapons. Here sitting at that fourth pick, they
Speaker 1: could easily take you know, one of these wide receivers
Speaker 1: whichever one is higher on their board, and everybody seems
Speaker 1: to be really up and down on these receivers. Who
Speaker 1: who's the top of who's not? Uh, so many different
Speaker 1: you know, variations on that going forward. So who was
Speaker 1: ever on the top of their board might be sitting there, well,
Speaker 1: definitely gonna be sitting there before, but it might even
Speaker 1: be sitting there a little later that toy. I think
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Speaker 1: There you go. Let's get back into the combine stuff.
Speaker 1: And Jim, when it comes to the wide receivers, what
Speaker 1: are we looking for. Look, you're looking for a big, tall,
Speaker 1: wide receiver, big hands most often, and then you're looking
Speaker 1: for somebody who can make those big plays and fight
Speaker 1: freaking tested balls. And right now Yeah, that happens to
Speaker 1: me a lot. Not much I can do about it
Speaker 1: right now, someone's always they always seem to call between
Speaker 1: one and two, even when we were on a frenzy.
Speaker 1: He st happening all the time. Makes me nuts. Um,
Speaker 1: But you know you're you're looking for those big play guys,
Speaker 1: especially early, and of course you know that means DK
Speaker 1: Metcalf and kill Harry, maybe even Kelvin Harmon, depending on
Speaker 1: who you you know, which one you're like the most.
Speaker 1: I mean Metcalf, everybody's going nuts off because of the
Speaker 1: pictures they sent out about his his body just being
Speaker 1: some freaking nuts. But you know what, personally, I like
Speaker 1: Harry a little bit more. I think, uh, he's just
Speaker 1: better at contested catches. He's a little he's not as
Speaker 1: stiff as Metcalf seems to be. What hell are you
Speaker 1: talking about? Height? Do you talk about big playability and
Speaker 1: you talk about ends, But those measurements do they matter?
Speaker 1: These teams, like we've seen plenty of smaller you guys
Speaker 1: be very very successful. O A Junior is the first
Speaker 1: round pick. He's not exactly six ft tall. Um speed
Speaker 1: speed is the other thing. So it's either well it's
Speaker 1: either you know, size, strength, speed are the tangibles, and
Speaker 1: then you've got the intangibles, which are route running ability.
Speaker 1: Um is you know, basically the person himself. I mean
Speaker 1: a lot of these coaches they end up meeting up
Speaker 1: or the gms, they meet up with these players to
Speaker 1: see how they are mentally. Like, you know, mental stability
Speaker 1: is important in the NFL, uh these days. So you
Speaker 1: know things like that route running hands, how good are
Speaker 1: your hands? Uh, you're leaping ability, you're you know catch radius, Uh,
Speaker 1: you're agilitiy. So you do the cone drills for agility, right,
Speaker 1: things like that quickness Like Antonio Brown isn't big, isn't
Speaker 1: super strong, fast, but he the things that yeah, and
Speaker 1: that this is why you know things are saying out
Speaker 1: about him. Is gray hands, great concentrate, great route runner,
Speaker 1: you know, just all the little things, the intention as
Speaker 1: he does at the highest level possible, which makes him
Speaker 1: an unbelievable player. Plus he's got the speed, the boot
Speaker 1: and the agility, the quickness all that. So he's not
Speaker 1: a big guy though, so you don't always need a
Speaker 1: big guy. Um. But those are the things you're looking for.
Speaker 1: I think these are the things you're looking for. Most
Speaker 1: I see the problem though, and this is what I
Speaker 1: think Greg is trying to allude to. These numbers are
Speaker 1: all nice, well and dandy, but you know, for all
Speaker 1: the you know numbers, threshold numbers that they want to see,
Speaker 1: We've seen players in the past with numbers below all
Speaker 1: of those thresholds that have played great in the NFL.
Speaker 1: We've seen guys that have the numbers well over the
Speaker 1: thresholds that have sucked in the NFL. So again, it
Speaker 1: comes down to heart. You know, a lot of the times,
Speaker 1: you know, who are these players and will they step
Speaker 1: up and perform when they get on the big field,
Speaker 1: And a lot of time, you know, these numbers aren't
Speaker 1: gonna show that. You can't prett Hopefully the meetings show
Speaker 1: a little bit of that, but that's what you got
Speaker 1: to work with. Speaking of wide receivers, Jim, whos really
Speaker 1: the best wide receiver in the NFL draft this season is?
Speaker 1: I do like Harry. I like Harry a lot to
Speaker 1: Arizona State. I just I think he's real fluid, He's
Speaker 1: got turns his hips nicely, he creates separation pretty quickly.
Speaker 1: I think this kid is gonna be a dynamic number
Speaker 1: one wide receiver in the NFL and Sea Kill Harry
Speaker 1: ranked basically first or second pretty much everywhere out of
Speaker 1: uh Arizona State. A J. Brown's another name given. I mean,
Speaker 1: what do you like? A J. Brown? Obviously you know
Speaker 1: sixty six? I love that, the measure of wrong, the measurables, um,
Speaker 1: you know, does everything well, had great stats in college.
Speaker 1: I mean, of course these things are going to be
Speaker 1: there because you know, and they compared to Judice Smith Schuster,
Speaker 1: which is you know, as you know, the thing with
Speaker 1: comed So the thing with Brown is you just mentioned
Speaker 1: speed and speed kills. Brown's never gonna run a four.
Speaker 1: I mean that that that's just not the kind of guy.
Speaker 1: He is strong though, He's a big, strong dude that's
Speaker 1: just gonna rack up yach theoretically monster. He's gonna break tackles,
Speaker 1: you know, yeah, you know he has quickness and all that.
Speaker 1: If he could separate, he could do the the integibles
Speaker 1: as well. So you know you want that pad with
Speaker 1: a with a strong guy red zone targets. So you hope,
Speaker 1: you hope you can see a lot of touchdowns out
Speaker 1: of him, maybe even his first season. Who it depends
Speaker 1: on where he goes though, So we can't even talk
Speaker 1: about that yet, you know, I know, of course, of course,
Speaker 1: where would a good fit for him? Now that's a
Speaker 1: good question, Jim. Uh. You know, there's there's a lot
Speaker 1: of teams that could use that kind of help. I mean,
Speaker 1: San Francisco we talked about them already at the number
Speaker 1: two pick, but I just don't see them going that
Speaker 1: early for a wide receiver when just conna see a
Speaker 1: lot of people out there saying that the value rounds here,
Speaker 1: rounds two to four, there's gonna be some great players
Speaker 1: in rounds two to four that are gonna be you know,
Speaker 1: quick contributors to the NFL teams. Um, So you know
Speaker 1: it's gonna be interesting. Do they go best player available,
Speaker 1: which at number two is probably gonna be Nick Bolson,
Speaker 1: or do they try to go with one of these
Speaker 1: wide receivers that early. I just don't if they see it.
Speaker 1: But you know there's plenty of teams out there that
Speaker 1: could use help. Uh yeah, Colts definitely there. Baltimore of course,
Speaker 1: but you know at this point, who wants to sign
Speaker 1: with Baltimore with Lebar Jackson's quarterback. Sorry, I wouldn't if
Speaker 1: I was a wide receiver. But you know, Buffalo definitely
Speaker 1: needs it. Um. You know, even Carolina could use another good,
Speaker 1: solid side wide receiver. So you know, there's plenty of
Speaker 1: teams that have that need. Jacksonville clearly needs a number
Speaker 1: one wide receiver. New Orleans A yeah, New Orkan. You know,
Speaker 1: there's plenty of gutting teams out there that are gonna
Speaker 1: be looking at wide receivers, but I'm pretty sure most
Speaker 1: of them aren't going to spend first round capital on
Speaker 1: them this year. I think most of them will be
Speaker 1: looking in the two to four round region of these
Speaker 1: guys because there's plenty of mid range talent in this draft.
Speaker 1: Where are these receivers going? Are they going in the
Speaker 1: first round? So from what I've seen, A J. Brown
Speaker 1: is projected to go in the first round, but all
Speaker 1: these other guys Jim's right are mostly second to fourth round.
Speaker 1: It is kind of depending on who you like and
Speaker 1: where you like them. Um from Nikila, Harry Kelvin, Harmon
Speaker 1: um Hem Butler. All these guys are second of four round,
Speaker 1: second to round four players. I think what's interesting is
Speaker 1: if you look at some of these UM, some of
Speaker 1: these rankings list like the best prospects of the draft.
Speaker 1: The quarterbacks aren't very high, which is really interesting. All
Speaker 1: the skill position players. This is a big offensive defensive
Speaker 1: line draft. Yeah, it's all thought of really good young
Speaker 1: tight ends here too. Yeah, I was reading the like
Speaker 1: the best tand draft in a long time. Do you
Speaker 1: think that's another reason why though, that they're hyping up
Speaker 1: the kyl and Marty's and you know, hyping up some
Speaker 1: of these Why, Like do you think people get pulled
Speaker 1: up the board because this because I feel like it
Speaker 1: hurts viewership of the draft and just you know, the
Speaker 1: combine all this in general, because there's not influx of
Speaker 1: talent in the skill positions, and that's you know, those
Speaker 1: are the sexy positions. Those are the positions that people
Speaker 1: want to you know that people gravitate towards it too,
Speaker 1: Like they don't really know all lineman in the d
Speaker 1: lineman as much they'll know the wide receivers in the
Speaker 1: running backs. Jim, I was just gonna say that the
Speaker 1: whole Murray and Haskins thing is gonna build up viewership
Speaker 1: on it. Everybody's gonna want to see what happens in
Speaker 1: those first five draft picks. Uh, hopefully first drive five,
Speaker 1: both of them going the first five because the Giants
Speaker 1: are at six. I don't know. I don't want them
Speaker 1: taking Haskins. I can't say that enough. Um, if they,
Speaker 1: oh god, you'll get me like Frank was when they
Speaker 1: signed signed Adam Gaze as head coach. That's how I'll
Speaker 1: be about the charts, um, and so many other ways
Speaker 1: they could go, and I'd be much happier with than
Speaker 1: them going at But you know that there's all of
Speaker 1: this coming in together, all his talk right now, Murray
Speaker 1: and Haskins, and that's gonna drive viewership. Everybody wants to
Speaker 1: know what's gonna happen with pick one in this draft,
Speaker 1: and those numbers are gonna be off the charts, That's
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. I think, like you know, it's getting
Speaker 1: a little overhype because they want to drive the viewership
Speaker 1: with that and they're using it happens every year, especially
Speaker 1: at quarterback. The quarterbacks always get pushed up the draft board.
Speaker 1: Everybody says it's not a great quarterback class. These guys
Speaker 1: probably are, and even in the top thirty two, you
Speaker 1: know payers, and then they all go in the top time. Yeah, Well,
Speaker 1: like the quarterback class was great last year, so they
Speaker 1: didn't even have to like, you know, promote that, like
Speaker 1: you had five really good quarterbacks going now you had
Speaker 1: you have to really the one that really stands out
Speaker 1: as Murray because of all the flashiness that he brings
Speaker 1: to the table and how little he is. But I think,
Speaker 1: you know, even what receivers get pushed up the board.
Speaker 1: I think I don't know if it was last year,
Speaker 1: it might have been two years ago when three war
Speaker 1: receivers got taken in like the first round, the top ten,
Speaker 1: and I don't think any of them were projected to
Speaker 1: go in the top ten. I think they just got
Speaker 1: pulled up the board, you know, because of overhyping all that.
Speaker 1: John Ross was one of those guys. Mike Williams, I
Speaker 1: think it was the It was John Russ, Mike Williams,
Speaker 1: and Slory Davis. All three got drafted in the top
Speaker 1: ten and so far, you know, none of them besides
Speaker 1: maybe Mike Williams, because we haven't seen enough yet have
Speaker 1: panned out top ten. So guys get over hyped and
Speaker 1: get pulled up the boader. I think it's you know
Speaker 1: a lot of it is to is to you know,
Speaker 1: hype up everybody, not just the coaches, and you know,
Speaker 1: the teams also just people watching. People just want to
Speaker 1: see it, see where these guys get drafted, and they
Speaker 1: want them to go early. They're their teams aren't drafting
Speaker 1: places to get people to watch, you know, and and
Speaker 1: and what happens, you know, it's supply and demand simple,
Speaker 1: it's a basic tenant of you know, all this stuff
Speaker 1: from times beginning, Supply and demand is huge. All of
Speaker 1: a sudden, there's not a big supply of quarterbacks to
Speaker 1: demand is bigger than the supply. And we always see that.
Speaker 1: We always see that with quarterbacks. You said, have you
Speaker 1: guys have been talking about it. Each and every year
Speaker 1: is a terrible quarterback drafts terriblequarterbacks. Terrible quarterback draft and
Speaker 1: even more so than than then when you used to
Speaker 1: see they're going to get pulled up, they're going to
Speaker 1: go early. They're going to be players that ab we
Speaker 1: should not be top ten picks that are uh Kyler
Speaker 1: Murray certainly is one of them. Doing Haskins maybe one
Speaker 1: of them. She was justin Herbert pulled out of the draft.
Speaker 1: You're just like, oh no, there's no good quarterbacks. And
Speaker 1: here we are with Murray and Haskins arguing, arguing, back
Speaker 1: and forth. You think should be the number one overall picking.
Speaker 1: That's what happens UM at the quarterback position. We've we've
Speaker 1: constantly said, guys, this is a big draft for offensive lineman,
Speaker 1: for defensive lineman. Jim you mentioned tight ends. Who's the
Speaker 1: number one tight end on the board. Oh. I like Hockinson. Um.
Speaker 1: I think he's gonna he's gonna be a prototypical, you know,
Speaker 1: big fast tight end that creates mismatches. I like him
Speaker 1: a lot. I know a lot of people have no
Speaker 1: offense a little bit higher, But to me, I just
Speaker 1: think Hockinson is just gonna be it. Um. You know
Speaker 1: it's he's just got all the tools and I think,
Speaker 1: you know once and he really develops that edge as
Speaker 1: a blocker as well. I don't think he's coming off
Speaker 1: the field. T J. Hockinson and No a fan, both
Speaker 1: two very very good tight ends. Both. I can see
Speaker 1: UM going early in the draft. According to CBS Sports,
Speaker 1: in the bec Christian Passo, he has he believes that
Speaker 1: it wouldn't be a shot that if t J. Hockinson
Speaker 1: goes as the first still position player off the board,
Speaker 1: that's how good he that's how good. He thinks hot
Speaker 1: could be quarterback, right. No, I mean he means even
Speaker 1: before the quarterbacks, depending he believes are better, he can't be.
Speaker 1: He can't complete considering those quarterbacks, you're gonna go top five, correct.
Speaker 1: So let's let's say other than the quarter I think
Speaker 1: I think he might be you know, spot on there.
Speaker 1: It looks like Carolina Panthers where they have they have
Speaker 1: the sixteenth pick. That looks like a good spot Hockinson potentially.
Speaker 1: So if Olsen, you know, if Olsen doesn't come back
Speaker 1: right and you know, and then fans maybe a couple
Speaker 1: a little after that, uh, you know, Tennessee or something
Speaker 1: like that. I mean, you got Buffalo that eats a
Speaker 1: tight end, Clay Cincinnati, Uh, you know, Detroit is another one, Jacksonville.
Speaker 1: It's a lot of teams that need a good tight
Speaker 1: ended tight end is a tough position right now, as
Speaker 1: we saw the fantasy once you got outside of those
Speaker 1: top three or four, everybody else and when you speaking
Speaker 1: of speaking of fantasy though, like you mentioned t J. Hockinson.
Speaker 1: We mentioned to a fan here and these are two
Speaker 1: guys that are awesome, right like Hackinson maybe the first
Speaker 1: skill position player off the board. We just said, but
Speaker 1: rarely does that translate to sustained success in fantasy football
Speaker 1: in year one? Now, a couple of years ago, we
Speaker 1: saw it right like we saw glimpses o of O. J. Howard.
Speaker 1: Evan Ingram was a top five tight end. So there
Speaker 1: is president here. And obviously you can go back to
Speaker 1: Rob Gronkowski if you'd like, But there is president here.
Speaker 1: Is t J. Hockenson. Jim one of these players that
Speaker 1: immediately could come in. Obviously we don't know where he'll be,
Speaker 1: but let's say Buffalo, let's say one of the Cincinnati.
Speaker 1: Is he one of those guys that can come in
Speaker 1: in year one and have some success in fantasy football
Speaker 1: like a Howard absolutely does. Um, he's got that kind
Speaker 1: of talent. Uh. I absolutely expect him to be a
Speaker 1: force right from you know, day one. Um, you know
Speaker 1: he's gonna well again if he lands with the right team. Um,
Speaker 1: you know, if God forbid, somebody like Baltimore takes him,
Speaker 1: they only got seventeen tight ends already, but you know,
Speaker 1: something like that. But if he lands with a team
Speaker 1: that needs a tight end and has a decent enough offense,
Speaker 1: I think he's going to be a star. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I think so. It's youse. Why do you why is
Speaker 1: he right behind Hockinson? For you? What do you like
Speaker 1: not like about no Offense. It's not so much that
Speaker 1: I don't like him. I think no offense is gonna
Speaker 1: be good. I just you know, I mean, we're talking
Speaker 1: about a guy what had trying to remember, like eighteen
Speaker 1: touchdowns the last two years Fryoa. So not nothing bad. Uh,
Speaker 1: He's I think he's gonna be a very good fantasy
Speaker 1: tight end and could end up being the top one
Speaker 1: in this draft. But from what I've seen in the
Speaker 1: tape I've seen of Hockinson, I think he's got Gronk
Speaker 1: like ability. Wow. Really he did have eighteen touchdowns. The
Speaker 1: other one at ten. Well, we'll come back after the break.
Speaker 1: But what these guys played for the same school. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I came. Yeah, I meant to bring that up that
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Speaker 1: you add jump to Sugar a Jim? I like Sugar? Actually, yeah,
Speaker 1: he's got a couple of good songs. Yeah I'm not
Speaker 1: I'm not a big you know, but he's got a
Speaker 1: couple of songs. I like it. It's a group, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's a group. Yeah, I know, I know a strange group.
Speaker 1: It's him led by Mark McGrath. That's right, And it's
Speaker 1: it's him. He makes the group. I always say that, right,
Speaker 1: Like if you just right, all right, if you change
Speaker 1: all the members of Maxbox twenty and you left Rob
Speaker 1: Thomas as the lead singer, is he still Matchbox? No?
Speaker 1: But it's still gonna be the same thing. I mean,
Speaker 1: Rob Thomas became Rob Thomas if the Matchbox twenty and
Speaker 1: he still had hits, but he went back to Matchbox.
Speaker 1: What But like, here's an example, right, I forget the
Speaker 1: guy's name, but the dude from Panic at the Disco,
Speaker 1: that lead singer whatever whatever his name is. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: so they sing the song high Hopes, right right, All
Speaker 1: the guys in the band totally different than they were
Speaker 1: ten years ago. Wait, they're all together still. So they
Speaker 1: gave up a song this year, give me a new
Speaker 1: album last year? Yeah, because they their last good song
Speaker 1: was a while when I was in college, right, exactly
Speaker 1: ten years like ten years ago, give a take, right,
Speaker 1: everybody's different, But the lead singer really yeah, still Pack
Speaker 1: of the Disco because he still wanted to sing. I
Speaker 1: guess they thought it was a good singer, and we
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Speaker 1: ten years. It is. That's a lot. It really is,
Speaker 1: though it might be more like looking up on Spotify
Speaker 1: if it's like, because I graduated college in twenty two
Speaker 1: thousand nine, let's see, he's still freaking young, right, So
Speaker 1: where's there? Where is there good stuff here? Like two
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Speaker 1: in college. I don't even know these songs. Maybe he
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Speaker 1: Good Charlotte, and Good Charlotte are all the same to me. Yeah, yeah,
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Speaker 1: came up sometimes exactly exactly Aby We're Going Down. I
Speaker 1: actually liked that song. It was a good song, Sugar
Speaker 1: We're Going Down. They played it out quick though they
Speaker 1: absolutely didn't. Okay, let's get back to combine. Why don't
Speaker 1: listen to radio anymore? Contribute to the conversation. Um, who's
Speaker 1: a third years we've seen is that Q Elliott go
Speaker 1: the top five, Todd Gurley go in the top fifteen? Uh,
Speaker 1: sing up Barklay go number two? Overall? Who's still running
Speaker 1: back on the board this year? I like Josh Jacobs. Um,
Speaker 1: you know, he's just got a lot to his game. Uh,
Speaker 1: you know, exceptional runner, exceptional pass catcher. Hopefully we see
Speaker 1: a little bit more out of him in the past
Speaker 1: blocking range. But I think from what we've seen he's
Speaker 1: good enough. I like him as the top back out
Speaker 1: of this class, except I still I'm not sure he's
Speaker 1: the first round talent. And the NFL Draft, I think
Speaker 1: we see him going in the second round, and and
Speaker 1: he probably will go late first. But you know, based
Speaker 1: on the talent we have on the defensive side of
Speaker 1: the ball, uh, the offensive line side of the ball,
Speaker 1: I just in in what I'm looking at. To me,
Speaker 1: he's the second round talent. He probably will go late first, though,
Speaker 1: but I think he's probably going to be the first
Speaker 1: running back off the board and probably the only one
Speaker 1: to go in the first round. I don't think he's
Speaker 1: in the first round. Yeah, And I keep going to that.
Speaker 1: I keep you know, I just somebody's gonna chump up
Speaker 1: to get him that needs a running back probably, uh,
Speaker 1: and it may be in that, you know, in the
Speaker 1: first beginning of second round transition. I also think his
Speaker 1: injury will probably stop people um from paying from from
Speaker 1: paying up for him, right, So we Ultimately there's a
Speaker 1: lot of other guys here that could be taking ahead
Speaker 1: of him because of the injury as well. Now, James
Speaker 1: is awesome and he has the ability to be awesome,
Speaker 1: no doubt. Um, in the NFL, would you give you
Speaker 1: a couple of other names? Jim, You let me know
Speaker 1: what you think, all right, Damian Harris did gim research Jim? Yeah, yeah, No,
Speaker 1: I'm waiting for you to give me a couple of names.
Speaker 1: Devin Singletary, Oh, you know, just so small, I mean slight,
Speaker 1: another slight type of guy. Um, you know, and look,
Speaker 1: he did great in conference USA. I'm not sure really
Speaker 1: how it's gonna come up. You know, I could see him, uh,
Speaker 1: you know playing that role at scot role, that number
Speaker 1: two running back. I don't ever think he's going to
Speaker 1: be a true number one. Um. I just don't know
Speaker 1: if it's there for them, But I think he could
Speaker 1: be very valued as a you know, out of the backfield,
Speaker 1: you know, scat back type on a team and it
Speaker 1: has a power runner to start, so you know, I
Speaker 1: think he falls there. But man, I would really be
Speaker 1: surprised if he gets taken before Jacobs. Yeah, no, he won't,
Speaker 1: he say no, okay, another one not before Jacobia holy Field.
Speaker 1: Uh you know, if this was boxing, he'd probably be
Speaker 1: number one. Um, but uh you know, hey, look just
Speaker 1: monster numbers six point four yards to carry uh four
Speaker 1: point one yards after contacting. You know it doesn't have
Speaker 1: that big home run thing going on, but you know
Speaker 1: it has a good, good size to him. He could
Speaker 1: get a lot of volume in the right offense. So
Speaker 1: again it you know, depending on where he lands, he
Speaker 1: could be one of those guys that you know in
Speaker 1: fantasy will go before Jay up but depending on where
Speaker 1: heat lands. But man, I the more I look at it,
Speaker 1: the more Jacobs just really stands out to me as
Speaker 1: the best of these running backs. You know, there there's
Speaker 1: everybody likes uh uh grown blank Oh David Montgomery that next, Yeah,
Speaker 1: another good running back. He could easily be one of
Speaker 1: those guys. Look, if the team really values him more
Speaker 1: than the Jacobs, I wouldn't be surprised if he gets
Speaker 1: drafted ahead of him. I just don't think he'll do
Speaker 1: as well as Jacob's in the NFL. Once all is
Speaker 1: said and done, Jacobs is the better version of Montgomery.
Speaker 1: I feel like I feel like they we're going now
Speaker 1: the NFL is going towards the Alvin Kamaro Moldy. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, catch passes do both be that
Speaker 1: versatile running back? Uh? And you know what's funny, they're
Speaker 1: all relatively the same size guys too. They're like five ten,
Speaker 1: five eleven, two hundred and fifteen. This is what we're
Speaker 1: looking at running backs right now. David Montgomery sixteen, Joshua
Speaker 1: Jacobs five ten to fift, like, they're all around that
Speaker 1: side and their pass catchers, those are the guys that
Speaker 1: should go first. I agree, I think. And I'm sorry,
Speaker 1: I don't mean to cut you off, but I was
Speaker 1: just gonna say, and this is where some of these
Speaker 1: combine drills will come into play. If one of these
Speaker 1: guys has you know, a much better forty time than
Speaker 1: the others, you know that that may push him up there.
Speaker 1: You know, if the three cone drill, if if he's
Speaker 1: getting you know, much better numbers that way, it might
Speaker 1: push him up. So this is where some of this
Speaker 1: comes into play as well. Yeah, Montgomery and Jacob stick
Speaker 1: out the most to me. Okay, yeah, Jim, are there
Speaker 1: any any name here that you're specifically watching to see
Speaker 1: what they do? At the combine Kyler Murray, Obviously you
Speaker 1: were waiting to see how he would weigh in. He's
Speaker 1: not gonna throw, He's gonna meet with teams, He's gonna go, um,
Speaker 1: go to the doctor, make sure there's nothing wrong with
Speaker 1: him health wise. Is that doing anything of the combine?
Speaker 1: Is there any player, whether we've named, whether we've not,
Speaker 1: that you're saying, Hey, I gotta see what this guy
Speaker 1: does in the combine because it's really could affect his
Speaker 1: draft stock. Oh um, Yeah, There's there's a few different
Speaker 1: ones that fall into that, but you know, Deebo Samuel
Speaker 1: is one for me. Um. You know, I really want
Speaker 1: to see what he does in the combine as well
Speaker 1: as his numbers, but not only that, you know, catching
Speaker 1: the ball getting thrown to him, things like that. I
Speaker 1: want to see where he is because I think if
Speaker 1: he lands in the right team and becomes their top
Speaker 1: slot option, I think this kid could be a fantasy
Speaker 1: gold mine if he lands in the right place. So
Speaker 1: he's definitely somebody I want to watch over the next
Speaker 1: couple of days and see what kind of numbers he
Speaker 1: puts up. Benny Snell is another one from Kentucky, running
Speaker 1: back from Kentucky. Um, you know, I think he's a
Speaker 1: guy that lands in the right place, could end up
Speaker 1: with like a Sony Michelle type of role that could
Speaker 1: be really surprised. We could be looking at a thousand
Speaker 1: yard rusher with the chance of double digit touchdowns if
Speaker 1: he lands in the right place again. So it really
Speaker 1: depends on where some of these guys land, uh, based
Speaker 1: on what their numbers are put on in the next
Speaker 1: few days. So it's gonna be interesting. This might be
Speaker 1: one of the first combines I really watch a lot
Speaker 1: of because there are some names here, um that I
Speaker 1: do want to see. Another one is Jay Sternberger, the
Speaker 1: tight end from Texas A and m Um you know
Speaker 1: to that what two years in Kansas and then and
Speaker 1: then played at junior college and then exploded for ten
Speaker 1: touchdowns for Texas A and M last year. I think,
Speaker 1: you know, he needs to work on his blocking ability,
Speaker 1: but his pass catching is very strong. I was gonna
Speaker 1: say the one that really I want to see what
Speaker 1: he does is Riley Ridley. So Calvin Ridley is another
Speaker 1: good name. Yeah, brother, Um, he's got you know, he
Speaker 1: got the songs, got it all. You just didn't see
Speaker 1: a ton on paper. You didn't see, Like the stats
Speaker 1: aren't like that, they're not full, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: I want to see what his body, what he does
Speaker 1: with all these metrics and you in the combine. And
Speaker 1: I also want to see what happens when he comes
Speaker 1: into the NFL, because I think obviously Calvin Ridley great
Speaker 1: player right off the jump. I think, you know, Riley
Speaker 1: could be that same type of same type of guy.
Speaker 1: I think he could come in and beat somebody, you know,
Speaker 1: like you said in that second to fourth round range,
Speaker 1: type of guy that goes under the radar a little
Speaker 1: bit that could actually make noise right away. I think
Speaker 1: Riley Riddy really might be one of those guys. I'm
Speaker 1: also looking at the other quarterbacks other than Kyler Murray's
Speaker 1: Wain Askins, like Drew Lock used the thing right like
Speaker 1: dreet Lock was, it was a big time thing. I
Speaker 1: want to see what he can do. I want to
Speaker 1: see if Jake Browning if there's anything there with him
Speaker 1: as well. Those are two guys that like, all right,
Speaker 1: I know they're throwing his shorts and a T shirt.
Speaker 1: I get it. Look, I'm kind of interested. I've got it.
Speaker 1: Interested in the deep ball and how accurate they are,
Speaker 1: you know, I'm actually I want to know how fast
Speaker 1: they are? And you know what, Jim, I want to
Speaker 1: know how fast Away Askins is in the forty yeah
Speaker 1: over under fort eight over I'll think the under What
Speaker 1: do you wanna been on it? All right, you gotta do.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna actually look up to see if he has
Speaker 1: a forty time already? Well, should probably look that up
Speaker 1: before beta. Well, it's a prop that actually they have
Speaker 1: a prop. What is it I'm looking for right now? Home?
Speaker 1: He didn't have the prop that Yeah, NFL combine prop
Speaker 1: that's forty audition vertical jump. I don't care about the jump.
Speaker 1: Will Dwayne Hoskins run the forty audition under over under
Speaker 1: four point eight second? All right? So I was right,
Speaker 1: Chim eight for eight is the number on the over
Speaker 1: four eight is minus one fifteen under four eight is
Speaker 1: minus one fifteen. It pretty even odds there would take
Speaker 1: I'm taking the Yeah, you're with me. I think he'll
Speaker 1: go faster than that. Yeah, that's I mean, that's not that.
Speaker 1: That's not a bad number for a quarterback, not at all.
Speaker 1: For Yeah, for a pocket passer, that ain't. But it's
Speaker 1: so so other names that are around that, right, like
Speaker 1: Matt Ryan, Matt Stafford, Ben Roethlisberger. He's not Cavi Newton.
Speaker 1: I've never claiming or Russell Wilson or Kyler Murray, he's not.
Speaker 1: That's not even Roger. If you could be Ben Roethlisberger,
Speaker 1: or you could be Matt Stafford, Matt Ryan. Yeah, pretty
Speaker 1: successful careers. No, yeah, yeah, you might be a little first.
Speaker 1: And those guys, I don't know. We'll find out. We're
Speaker 1: gonna find out. I think the only quarterback that in
Speaker 1: two years we're gonna be talking about is a starter
Speaker 1: out of this year's draft is gonna be Murray. All
Speaker 1: the rest of these guys are gonna be lifelong backups.
Speaker 1: I am interested in Will Greer, though, when and no
Speaker 1: interesting draft Will Greer? There watched enough West Virginia games.
Speaker 1: He's incredibly inaccurate. Yes, well, let's see how we grow
Speaker 1: like and can't teach. You can't teach, you know, and
Speaker 1: you know who's the same way by teach accuras can
Speaker 1: make you can't teach. You can't really teach arm strength,
Speaker 1: and you can't really teach speed. You can teach accuracy.
Speaker 1: How could you not accuracy? Accuracy is an innate ability.
Speaker 1: That's not true. You either throw the ball to the
Speaker 1: right place or you don't. I don't. I disagree with that. Listen.
Speaker 1: You could learn to be more accurate and practice. I mean,
Speaker 1: everybody's inaccurate when they're young. They eventually learn and practice
Speaker 1: and become more accurate over time. They're still not doing
Speaker 1: its NFL quarterbacks that have grown more accurate over time,
Speaker 1: Michael Vick. I mean there's a lot of there's a
Speaker 1: lot of guys that do that. You can't teach. Arm
Speaker 1: strength that you can't teach. You can build it. You
Speaker 1: can build up arms, the build it up a little bit.
Speaker 1: There's a there's a capacity though, Like if you're a
Speaker 1: guy with a cannon, you just have had cannon. And
Speaker 1: there's certain guys that just will never get to that
Speaker 1: cannon level. Like they could build it up a little bit,
Speaker 1: but it's not gonna happen, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: Like Dallas Kikeel, he's not throwing more than ninety miles
Speaker 1: per hour. It's just not happening. I mean, Charlie Morton
Speaker 1: did it though. That's interesting. Callie Morton actually where him
Speaker 1: throwing like low nineties to mid nineties in his late career.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I love baseball. I'm sorry, but ultimately,
Speaker 1: ultimately I agree with Jim accuracy cannopy talk. And you
Speaker 1: see a lot of these guys come in the league
Speaker 1: there's incredibly inaccurate and they're just ultimately never successful. Um,
Speaker 1: Josh Allen was very inaccurate. I'm hoping that turns around
Speaker 1: because I like Shosh Allen. He's got arms straight, he's
Speaker 1: got speed right. If he can get more accurate, he's
Speaker 1: gonna be a big time quarterback in this league. But
Speaker 1: then you wouldn't be leaving him if you do, if
Speaker 1: you don't think you can teach, I want to see it.
Speaker 1: I want to see it. That's the question. So the
Speaker 1: guy that when you're talking about accuracy in this draft, yeah,
Speaker 1: I mentioned Will Greer, but Daniel Jones is the guy
Speaker 1: from Duke who cannot complete sixty percent of his passes
Speaker 1: some real low. You don't want that in college, especially
Speaker 1: correct correct like you would have an accuracy in the NFL.
Speaker 1: And I'm sorry to do this again with the Giants,
Speaker 1: but like Eli Manning has seen as accuracy go up
Speaker 1: with past Shermer because they're having him throw different passes
Speaker 1: than he did forever under Kevin Gilbride and Tom Coffin.
Speaker 1: Right like he was a downfield pastor. And that was
Speaker 1: the kind of offense he ran when you rob name
Speaker 1: Ben McAdoo and then later Pat Shermer, Eli Manning through
Speaker 1: quicker passes, uh more screen passes, more double off passes,
Speaker 1: more West Coast style. So his accuracy went off right
Speaker 1: like that. That is how you fixed accuracy, changing the
Speaker 1: correct that's how you change the accuracy numbers. But I
Speaker 1: got at Daniel Jones, who played in a pro style
Speaker 1: system throwing under six percent of the passes. You cannot
Speaker 1: teach that. And that's why I don't leave Daniel Jones
Speaker 1: will be a good NFL quarterback. That's an issue. Will
Speaker 1: Greer through sixty seven he was no. I gotta tech.
Speaker 1: I totally disagree. I think I think he hasn't. Jones
Speaker 1: has a really really good chance to be a great quarterback. Ah.
Speaker 1: There it is there, it is the F. The A
Speaker 1: a F is still around next year. How is your
Speaker 1: a F team going, Jim? Actually I'm in the lead,
Speaker 1: or tied with the lead, I should say, with a stone,
Speaker 1: him and I are tied for the lead. A couple
Speaker 1: of teams haven't even put in lineups at all yet.
Speaker 1: It's crazy. I've kind of lost I'll be honest, I've
Speaker 1: pretty much lost interest in the league. They should have
Speaker 1: given these offenses more time to come together. Um. You know,
Speaker 1: when you got bad offenses on the field, just takes
Speaker 1: the whole game down. And that's what we've been seeing
Speaker 1: a lot of a couple of teams have some good offenses,
Speaker 1: but the rest of the teams have no clue what
Speaker 1: they're doing. The fact that Christian Hackenburg is still on
Speaker 1: the field half the time do nuts. The fact that
Speaker 1: everybody's raving about Trent Richardson and his two point five
Speaker 1: yards for carry in that league, it's amazing to me.
Speaker 1: These are the guys you're you're pinning names on. Come on, um.
Speaker 1: And the fact that after time you don't know what
Speaker 1: channel they're gonna be on and and stuff like that,
Speaker 1: that's a big interest. So that I've lost injuries too,
Speaker 1: because if you want to sit down on a Sunday,
Speaker 1: I don't wanna have to find it. I want to
Speaker 1: know that it's gonna be on this channel and this time,
Speaker 1: like you know, the NFL Sunday or if it's Saturday,
Speaker 1: that's fine, but I need to know that at Saturday
Speaker 1: or Sunday, at one o'clock or five o'clock, whatever it is,
Speaker 1: it's gotta be on the same channel. You can't bring
Speaker 1: me to CBS Sports Network, then bleach your report that
Speaker 1: NFL Network and CDs. I can't do that. You can't.
Speaker 1: And that's one thing I know. The XFL learns that
Speaker 1: they're signing. I read they're signing deals with Fox or ABC,
Speaker 1: which is ESPN. Like if you're gonna put certain games
Speaker 1: on ESPN two every Sunday, great people games on FS
Speaker 1: one every Sunday. Fine, I don't want to start trapping,
Speaker 1: all right, it's gotta be consistent. I want to thank
Speaker 1: Dr Ray for joining us. I want to thank Jim
Speaker 1: Day Fantasy Task for helping back in it. Appreciate Jim,
Speaker 1: Appreciate always. We'll talk to you. Sit for Chris Ventraw,
Speaker 1: for Chris Pavona. I am Gregg Sauceman back again tomorrow
Speaker 1: with Frank Stanford going to starting pitching is have a
Speaker 1: fantastic rest of your day. We'll see you tomorrow. We