1 00:00:01,840 --> 00:00:06,120 Speaker 1: Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George 2 00:00:06,160 --> 00:00:10,240 Speaker 1: Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty. 3 00:00:10,160 --> 00:00:17,240 Speaker 2: Arm Strong and Jettie and now hey, I'm Strong and Jetty. 4 00:00:23,760 --> 00:00:27,720 Speaker 3: We are now three days into the search for Nancy Guthrie, 5 00:00:27,800 --> 00:00:32,080 Speaker 3: and FBI officials say that they're searching through phones and 6 00:00:32,120 --> 00:00:35,720 Speaker 3: looking at cell tower data, so all of that work continues, 7 00:00:35,760 --> 00:00:39,680 Speaker 3: but as a painstakingly slow process. Investigators were also asked 8 00:00:39,680 --> 00:00:43,159 Speaker 3: about cameras inside the home, and investigators say that they 9 00:00:43,200 --> 00:00:45,720 Speaker 3: are still waiting to try to get some of that 10 00:00:45,880 --> 00:00:49,360 Speaker 3: video back from the companies that operate those cameras. So 11 00:00:50,280 --> 00:00:53,120 Speaker 3: the sheriff at times sounding frustrated by how slow that 12 00:00:53,159 --> 00:00:54,600 Speaker 3: process has been. 13 00:00:55,560 --> 00:01:00,680 Speaker 1: So NBC, the network that brings you Dateline, the most 14 00:01:00,720 --> 00:01:05,679 Speaker 1: popular Who Done It? TV shows of all time, has 15 00:01:05,800 --> 00:01:08,800 Speaker 1: their own going on with one of their biggest stars, 16 00:01:09,319 --> 00:01:11,679 Speaker 1: Savannah Guthrie, who I remember back in the day when 17 00:01:11,680 --> 00:01:14,280 Speaker 1: she was just the young legal reporter for Brian Williams 18 00:01:14,280 --> 00:01:17,560 Speaker 1: on the NBC Evening News, and then somebody figured out 19 00:01:17,600 --> 00:01:21,280 Speaker 1: that she's really charming, has a great smile and girl 20 00:01:21,360 --> 00:01:24,319 Speaker 1: next door sort of charm, and she ended up on 21 00:01:24,319 --> 00:01:26,160 Speaker 1: the Today Show and had become a major host, and 22 00:01:26,200 --> 00:01:28,479 Speaker 1: you were probably going to see her Friday night doing 23 00:01:28,520 --> 00:01:32,640 Speaker 1: the opening ceremonies of the Olympics, except for her mom 24 00:01:32,680 --> 00:01:35,320 Speaker 1: went missing over the weekend, and it is a serious 25 00:01:35,319 --> 00:01:35,840 Speaker 1: who'd done it? 26 00:01:35,840 --> 00:01:37,560 Speaker 4: And what the hell is going on there. 27 00:01:39,080 --> 00:01:41,200 Speaker 1: With a number of things that occurred over the weekend 28 00:01:41,840 --> 00:01:47,080 Speaker 1: and over the last twenty four hours, with somebody sending 29 00:01:47,440 --> 00:01:51,880 Speaker 1: a ransom note to media outlets starting with TMZ and 30 00:01:51,880 --> 00:01:56,360 Speaker 1: then some local media outlets that is being portrayed as 31 00:01:57,680 --> 00:02:02,080 Speaker 1: having chilling details about how she was abducted, Savannah Garthur's 32 00:02:02,080 --> 00:02:02,920 Speaker 1: mom and all that sort of stuff. 33 00:02:02,920 --> 00:02:04,720 Speaker 4: It could all be he was wearing. That sort of 34 00:02:04,720 --> 00:02:05,400 Speaker 4: thing could be. 35 00:02:05,360 --> 00:02:09,040 Speaker 1: Made up, though I suppose they don't know. That's kind 36 00:02:09,040 --> 00:02:11,040 Speaker 1: of your theory is that it's a crackpot, Is that right? 37 00:02:11,480 --> 00:02:15,600 Speaker 4: Well, well, you made somebody disturbed. You made the good 38 00:02:15,639 --> 00:02:20,320 Speaker 4: point that if you actually wanted two million dollars in crypto, 39 00:02:20,560 --> 00:02:24,240 Speaker 4: which is I think the rumor on this, Uh, you 40 00:02:24,320 --> 00:02:29,840 Speaker 4: wouldn't Your first opening contact wouldn't be TMZ. No, that 41 00:02:29,840 --> 00:02:35,760 Speaker 4: would don't necessarily complicate everything, right, and uh, in a 42 00:02:35,880 --> 00:02:40,480 Speaker 4: in all kinds of different ways. So we've been doing 43 00:02:40,520 --> 00:02:43,079 Speaker 4: these for a long long time now. 44 00:02:43,160 --> 00:02:45,720 Speaker 1: When these things blow up into a giant media story, 45 00:02:46,280 --> 00:02:50,000 Speaker 1: they always get very weird, very fast, and it's easy 46 00:02:50,000 --> 00:02:52,600 Speaker 1: to forget when it happens, whether it's. 47 00:02:52,520 --> 00:02:54,240 Speaker 4: Jean Benet or. 48 00:02:55,880 --> 00:02:58,280 Speaker 1: Scott Peterson and his wife or whatever the heck, the 49 00:02:58,320 --> 00:03:01,040 Speaker 1: story is that it's real people. It becomes like a 50 00:03:01,120 --> 00:03:03,480 Speaker 1: dateline show. It's like, oh, it's interesting, who do you 51 00:03:03,480 --> 00:03:06,079 Speaker 1: think killed her? As opposed to this is somebody's mom. 52 00:03:06,160 --> 00:03:07,919 Speaker 1: She got a phone called Mom's miss and I mean 53 00:03:08,040 --> 00:03:10,960 Speaker 1: just horrific. I can't imagine how awful that would be. 54 00:03:11,680 --> 00:03:15,200 Speaker 4: And you've got both these so called responsible news media 55 00:03:15,280 --> 00:03:17,880 Speaker 4: looking for angles, whatever angles. Let's start to question the 56 00:03:17,919 --> 00:03:20,640 Speaker 4: local cops and call them incompetent. Let's focus on this 57 00:03:20,760 --> 00:03:23,760 Speaker 4: that the other, and then you get the vampires. Who 58 00:03:23,760 --> 00:03:27,320 Speaker 4: are you know, offering a clickbait news? Has Nancy Grace 59 00:03:27,360 --> 00:03:30,840 Speaker 4: shown up somewhere? She probably will? Uh? Oh, Gloria Alred 60 00:03:30,880 --> 00:03:32,840 Speaker 4: has Hasn't Gloria, No, she's something else. 61 00:03:32,880 --> 00:03:36,320 Speaker 1: She's doing the EPC, she's busy all the EPSTE. You 62 00:03:36,400 --> 00:03:38,800 Speaker 1: got Ashley Banfield, who you might remember from back in 63 00:03:38,840 --> 00:03:41,320 Speaker 1: the day, trying to get some relevance going on some 64 00:03:41,400 --> 00:03:43,960 Speaker 1: show called drop Dead Serious here's what she had to 65 00:03:44,000 --> 00:03:44,920 Speaker 1: say about it yesterday. 66 00:03:45,160 --> 00:03:50,040 Speaker 5: One law enforcement source, very connected, highly regarded, impeccable credentials, 67 00:03:50,720 --> 00:03:56,640 Speaker 5: knowledge of this investigation, says that Thomas so Cioni, Annie P. 68 00:03:56,720 --> 00:03:59,680 Speaker 5: Guthrie's husband maybe the prime suspect in this case and 69 00:04:01,000 --> 00:04:05,680 Speaker 5: vehicle has been towed, impounded and is now in evidence. 70 00:04:06,280 --> 00:04:09,600 Speaker 5: At the very least, let me tamp that down, because 71 00:04:09,960 --> 00:04:14,360 Speaker 5: sometimes it's the first person you're looking at, not prime, 72 00:04:14,520 --> 00:04:16,400 Speaker 5: as in, there's no one else. Okay, so let's be 73 00:04:16,480 --> 00:04:20,120 Speaker 5: really mindful of that. Okay, looked at first as well. 74 00:04:20,200 --> 00:04:24,119 Speaker 1: Yeah, Ashley Banfield's talking about Savannah Guthrie's brother in law 75 00:04:24,920 --> 00:04:27,000 Speaker 1: might be a suspect. This is the sort of thing 76 00:04:27,520 --> 00:04:29,800 Speaker 1: I mean, you know the playbook for how these things work. 77 00:04:30,000 --> 00:04:32,160 Speaker 1: When you're doing a daily cable show and you've got 78 00:04:32,200 --> 00:04:35,760 Speaker 1: to have something to talk about every single day, the family. 79 00:04:35,440 --> 00:04:36,320 Speaker 4: Is being looked at. 80 00:04:36,400 --> 00:04:38,440 Speaker 1: Okay, Well, the first thing they're going to do is 81 00:04:38,480 --> 00:04:40,559 Speaker 1: go ask all the family members have you seen mom? 82 00:04:41,000 --> 00:04:48,560 Speaker 4: And that's from Ashley Banfield's Contemptible podcast. Now, she's thoroughly independent, but. 83 00:04:48,920 --> 00:04:51,000 Speaker 1: The point remains that you have to come up with 84 00:04:51,040 --> 00:04:53,880 Speaker 1: some reason every day to throw suspicion on somebody, and 85 00:04:53,880 --> 00:04:55,880 Speaker 1: then you immediately jump And I mentioned I heard on 86 00:04:58,160 --> 00:05:01,720 Speaker 1: News Nation this morning they're saying these sheriff refusing to 87 00:05:01,839 --> 00:05:06,440 Speaker 1: acknowledge the discovery of blood on the sidewalk. I didn't 88 00:05:06,520 --> 00:05:10,320 Speaker 1: refuse to acknowledge it, making it sound like he's stonewalling 89 00:05:10,360 --> 00:05:12,360 Speaker 1: you or something. They just haven't addressed it yet for 90 00:05:12,960 --> 00:05:15,279 Speaker 1: all kinds of possibly good reasons, but you have to. 91 00:05:15,440 --> 00:05:16,760 Speaker 1: You have to try to make it seem like the 92 00:05:16,800 --> 00:05:19,800 Speaker 1: cops are in on it or did something wrong, they're incompetent. 93 00:05:20,160 --> 00:05:22,520 Speaker 1: And the family members who've been talked to by the cops, 94 00:05:22,520 --> 00:05:24,120 Speaker 1: which is just protocol. 95 00:05:23,880 --> 00:05:25,240 Speaker 4: Obviously under suspicion. 96 00:05:25,279 --> 00:05:27,280 Speaker 1: And then you start digging into the brother in law, 97 00:05:27,400 --> 00:05:29,839 Speaker 1: or you talk to a neighbor who says he once 98 00:05:29,880 --> 00:05:32,280 Speaker 1: saw the Savannah Guthriy and the brother in law having 99 00:05:32,320 --> 00:05:34,719 Speaker 1: an argument or whatever the hell happens. Oh, I mean, 100 00:05:34,800 --> 00:05:37,239 Speaker 1: we've all seen this happen over and over and over again. 101 00:05:37,720 --> 00:05:39,440 Speaker 1: And then there are plenty of people who just out like, 102 00:05:39,600 --> 00:05:40,799 Speaker 1: rot outright lie. 103 00:05:40,960 --> 00:05:41,159 Speaker 4: Yeah. 104 00:05:41,160 --> 00:05:43,120 Speaker 1: And I was watching a news report this morning where 105 00:05:43,120 --> 00:05:46,880 Speaker 1: he had so that this area Tucson looks fantastic. 106 00:05:46,920 --> 00:05:48,320 Speaker 4: I've been to Tucson a number of times. 107 00:05:48,400 --> 00:05:50,599 Speaker 1: My parents used to live in the area, but these 108 00:05:50,600 --> 00:05:53,840 Speaker 1: are like it's very small town, but this is out 109 00:05:53,880 --> 00:05:56,720 Speaker 1: away from the little town, and everybody's got giant lots 110 00:05:56,720 --> 00:05:59,279 Speaker 1: because there's tons of space out there in Arizona, and 111 00:05:59,279 --> 00:06:01,880 Speaker 1: everybody's got these big lots. And so somebody who's walking 112 00:06:02,000 --> 00:06:04,880 Speaker 1: like out behind the bushes, like the neighbors there, and 113 00:06:04,920 --> 00:06:06,840 Speaker 1: as you can see over this fence, that's the house there. 114 00:06:06,960 --> 00:06:08,680 Speaker 4: So that this happens to you. 115 00:06:08,680 --> 00:06:12,159 Speaker 1: You're dealing with this horrible, probably tragedy in your life, 116 00:06:12,240 --> 00:06:14,880 Speaker 1: and you got news reporters peering over your back fence 117 00:06:15,600 --> 00:06:18,320 Speaker 1: making all kinds of weird speculation about things based on 118 00:06:18,360 --> 00:06:18,920 Speaker 1: what they see. 119 00:06:19,640 --> 00:06:20,159 Speaker 4: Yeah. 120 00:06:21,040 --> 00:06:24,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, this other Ashley Banfield thing. 121 00:06:24,800 --> 00:06:28,719 Speaker 4: This is one angle a lot of people were talking 122 00:06:28,720 --> 00:06:29,440 Speaker 4: about yesterday. 123 00:06:29,960 --> 00:06:35,400 Speaker 5: I can tell you that missus Guthrie had cameras plural 124 00:06:35,839 --> 00:06:38,800 Speaker 5: at this home and that they were smashed. But I 125 00:06:38,800 --> 00:06:41,640 Speaker 5: can tell you they are nest cameras. They are nest 126 00:06:41,640 --> 00:06:45,599 Speaker 5: cameras plural, and that whoever did this may have smashed 127 00:06:45,960 --> 00:06:50,840 Speaker 5: those cameras plural, so they're not there, presumably because law 128 00:06:50,880 --> 00:06:54,160 Speaker 5: enforcement took those smashed cameras as evidence. 129 00:06:55,400 --> 00:06:58,919 Speaker 4: Boy that's really entertainment for dumb people right there, because 130 00:06:59,279 --> 00:07:03,080 Speaker 4: for the repetition should stay for the incredibly obvious analysis. 131 00:07:03,320 --> 00:07:06,880 Speaker 1: And oh that if the cameras were smashed, the person 132 00:07:06,960 --> 00:07:08,920 Speaker 1: might have been trying to hide their tracks or whatever. 133 00:07:08,920 --> 00:07:11,560 Speaker 4: But know, but the cops took the smashed cameras as 134 00:07:11,560 --> 00:07:16,480 Speaker 4: evid block effing homes over here. 135 00:07:17,800 --> 00:07:20,560 Speaker 1: And then, as other reporters have pointed out, the information 136 00:07:20,680 --> 00:07:23,840 Speaker 1: is probably stored in the cloud or someplace else. It's 137 00:07:23,840 --> 00:07:27,080 Speaker 1: got nothing to do with the specific camera. So right, yes, 138 00:07:27,160 --> 00:07:28,200 Speaker 1: Katie got an angle on this. 139 00:07:28,440 --> 00:07:30,960 Speaker 6: No, that that was That was exactly it. It doesn't 140 00:07:30,960 --> 00:07:33,280 Speaker 6: matter if they have the cameras physically or not, because 141 00:07:33,280 --> 00:07:34,680 Speaker 6: it's all that info somewhere else. 142 00:07:35,240 --> 00:07:37,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, they might have the cameras just to see if 143 00:07:37,040 --> 00:07:39,480 Speaker 4: it was obvious what sort of tool smash them, or 144 00:07:39,480 --> 00:07:41,880 Speaker 4: if there was painting it or whatever, because you collect everything. 145 00:07:41,960 --> 00:07:44,720 Speaker 4: But all right, women are good at true crime. Uh 146 00:07:44,760 --> 00:07:48,200 Speaker 4: what do you what do you suspect is happening here? Now? 147 00:07:48,240 --> 00:07:50,760 Speaker 4: This is this is just people talking. We're not trying 148 00:07:50,760 --> 00:07:53,880 Speaker 4: to come off as a news program here. The shape 149 00:07:53,880 --> 00:07:55,400 Speaker 4: of the thing, how does it strike you? 150 00:07:57,280 --> 00:07:59,880 Speaker 6: I think that I really worry that it has some 151 00:08:00,120 --> 00:08:04,600 Speaker 6: thing to do with some nut job and Savannah Guthrie's job. 152 00:08:05,360 --> 00:08:07,920 Speaker 4: I don't know why, but that's the feeling I'm getting 153 00:08:07,920 --> 00:08:08,240 Speaker 4: with it. 154 00:08:08,760 --> 00:08:12,840 Speaker 6: And she had her mother was very prominent in her 155 00:08:12,920 --> 00:08:15,560 Speaker 6: reports and on her social media, so there was no 156 00:08:15,640 --> 00:08:16,760 Speaker 6: mistaking who she was. 157 00:08:17,200 --> 00:08:20,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, and which is you know, the reason a lot 158 00:08:20,800 --> 00:08:23,200 Speaker 1: of us who are in media, even at much lower levels, 159 00:08:23,280 --> 00:08:26,320 Speaker 1: don't get our family members involved because there are so 160 00:08:26,360 --> 00:08:29,400 Speaker 1: many freaking nut jobs out there. And Savannah Guthrie had 161 00:08:29,400 --> 00:08:31,360 Speaker 1: her mom on the Today Show all the time, and 162 00:08:31,400 --> 00:08:33,520 Speaker 1: it was like part of her you know, here's my 163 00:08:33,559 --> 00:08:36,680 Speaker 1: mom's Fourth of July recipe for whatever, which was cute 164 00:08:36,679 --> 00:08:38,000 Speaker 1: and nice and you should be able to do there 165 00:08:38,040 --> 00:08:43,679 Speaker 1: for Yeah. Well, and I suspect said nutjob abducted a 166 00:08:43,960 --> 00:08:47,880 Speaker 1: very old lady who depends on serious medications to stay 167 00:08:47,880 --> 00:08:52,360 Speaker 1: alive every day and being a nut job and a 168 00:08:52,440 --> 00:08:56,240 Speaker 1: loser and whatever else hadn't reckoned on the reality of it. 169 00:08:56,280 --> 00:08:59,200 Speaker 1: And I suspect very strongly that it will not end 170 00:08:59,240 --> 00:09:02,040 Speaker 1: in a cheery way. No, no, no, it's not gonna 171 00:09:02,080 --> 00:09:05,360 Speaker 1: be a good ending, almost certainly, I think. And then 172 00:09:06,120 --> 00:09:08,120 Speaker 1: what always has to happen on these things is they 173 00:09:08,120 --> 00:09:11,040 Speaker 1: go after the local cops. The media does turns on 174 00:09:11,080 --> 00:09:13,319 Speaker 1: the local cops about their incompetence of this and that, 175 00:09:13,400 --> 00:09:15,959 Speaker 1: and you have a whole bunch of here's an extra 176 00:09:16,000 --> 00:09:21,040 Speaker 1: detective from Philadelphia. Yeah, what, I've never seen such incompetence. 177 00:09:21,040 --> 00:09:21,199 Speaker 7: You know. 178 00:09:21,280 --> 00:09:24,040 Speaker 1: That sort of stuff all day long on your cable 179 00:09:24,080 --> 00:09:26,040 Speaker 1: news channels just drives me nuts. 180 00:09:26,200 --> 00:09:28,280 Speaker 4: If you're some you. 181 00:09:28,240 --> 00:09:32,920 Speaker 1: Know, unless you're New York, LA, some big city police department, 182 00:09:33,800 --> 00:09:35,800 Speaker 1: you're not used to dealing with this sort of stuff 183 00:09:35,840 --> 00:09:38,000 Speaker 1: and all these questions being fired at you by all 184 00:09:38,000 --> 00:09:42,199 Speaker 1: these different media outlets and everything like that, and ah, 185 00:09:42,280 --> 00:09:44,800 Speaker 1: it just be be so miserable. Look, I live in 186 00:09:44,840 --> 00:09:47,319 Speaker 1: two so sleepy little ton of Tucson. Almost nothing ever 187 00:09:47,360 --> 00:09:49,640 Speaker 1: bad ever happens here. And now I'm dealing with a murder. 188 00:09:49,679 --> 00:09:51,800 Speaker 1: It's tragic. Quit screaming at me questions. 189 00:09:52,360 --> 00:09:55,160 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, Now. 190 00:09:55,240 --> 00:09:57,240 Speaker 1: I was watching Fox this morning and one of my 191 00:09:57,280 --> 00:10:00,000 Speaker 1: favorite Fox hostsaid he got way out over his skis 192 00:10:00,080 --> 00:10:02,559 Speaker 1: on day one and caused himself a lot of problem. 193 00:10:02,760 --> 00:10:04,920 Speaker 4: Okay, well, what was he supposed to do? 194 00:10:05,000 --> 00:10:07,040 Speaker 1: First time he's ever, probably in his life, been in 195 00:10:07,040 --> 00:10:08,559 Speaker 1: a room with a whole bunch of cameras in his. 196 00:10:08,559 --> 00:10:13,240 Speaker 4: Face, right, right, the world is ugly. Have you ever 197 00:10:13,280 --> 00:10:14,199 Speaker 4: notice that, Well. 198 00:10:14,920 --> 00:10:20,319 Speaker 1: It's just it's weird how quickly it turns from understanding 199 00:10:20,360 --> 00:10:22,120 Speaker 1: it on a human level to it just being a 200 00:10:22,120 --> 00:10:22,720 Speaker 1: TV show. 201 00:10:24,679 --> 00:10:28,240 Speaker 4: And for me, yeah, for me even, all right, yeah, 202 00:10:28,280 --> 00:10:31,400 Speaker 4: i'd agree, that's that's very interesting. It well, and people 203 00:10:31,400 --> 00:10:34,920 Speaker 4: have plainted out that since everybody's reality has gone from 204 00:10:35,120 --> 00:10:38,559 Speaker 4: entirely personal, you know, one hundred and fifty years ago, 205 00:10:38,760 --> 00:10:43,839 Speaker 4: to practically entirely online, now, our understanding of each other 206 00:10:43,920 --> 00:10:47,720 Speaker 4: as human beings has gotten completely well weakened. It's gone away. 207 00:10:48,240 --> 00:10:51,520 Speaker 4: People say and do vicious, savage things because they no 208 00:10:51,600 --> 00:10:54,840 Speaker 4: longer look at their fellow humans as humans. They're just 209 00:10:54,960 --> 00:10:58,960 Speaker 4: avatars on a screen, as it were. 210 00:10:59,679 --> 00:11:04,040 Speaker 1: Just around the news speed CBS, New York Post, New 211 00:11:04,120 --> 00:11:09,000 Speaker 1: York Times, Washington, there is a tremendous amount of news 212 00:11:09,040 --> 00:11:11,760 Speaker 1: coverage of this particular story. Why do you think that is? 213 00:11:13,960 --> 00:11:16,360 Speaker 4: Sorry? It is taking a drink of water A headful 214 00:11:16,360 --> 00:11:19,440 Speaker 4: of things. Number one, a missing person that may or 215 00:11:19,480 --> 00:11:23,520 Speaker 4: may not be found alive is on a very primal level, 216 00:11:23,600 --> 00:11:27,400 Speaker 4: impossible for people to ignore. Because we want to save 217 00:11:27,640 --> 00:11:32,160 Speaker 4: other human beings. The fact that it's an entirely innocent 218 00:11:32,240 --> 00:11:36,920 Speaker 4: gal helpless, an old lady. Just I think on a 219 00:11:37,000 --> 00:11:40,760 Speaker 4: very basic level, we want her to be okay, and 220 00:11:40,840 --> 00:11:43,280 Speaker 4: we want to know who the monster is who could 221 00:11:43,320 --> 00:11:46,120 Speaker 4: do this. That's an old, old impulse too. And the 222 00:11:46,120 --> 00:11:48,400 Speaker 4: fact that it's connected to a celebrity. Some people are 223 00:11:48,400 --> 00:11:51,080 Speaker 4: extra fascinated by that. I'm not. I just look at 224 00:11:51,080 --> 00:11:52,480 Speaker 4: it as part of the investigation. 225 00:11:54,040 --> 00:11:56,800 Speaker 1: This story with the right hook could have blown up 226 00:11:56,920 --> 00:12:01,120 Speaker 1: even without the celebrity connection, because it's it's it's an 227 00:12:01,120 --> 00:12:03,520 Speaker 1: odd one, one hundred percent. 228 00:12:03,600 --> 00:12:05,520 Speaker 4: Yeah. 229 00:12:05,559 --> 00:12:07,679 Speaker 1: So it is one of the news outlets the way 230 00:12:07,720 --> 00:12:11,680 Speaker 1: I understand it, that spotted red drops on the sidewalk, 231 00:12:12,280 --> 00:12:14,120 Speaker 1: and then it turned into a story all day long 232 00:12:14,200 --> 00:12:18,480 Speaker 1: yesterday of possibly blood in the law enforcement is not 233 00:12:18,840 --> 00:12:21,119 Speaker 1: acknowledge that it refuses to acknowledge. 234 00:12:21,800 --> 00:12:26,160 Speaker 4: So it could be anything. Who knows, right, right, Sometimes 235 00:12:26,160 --> 00:12:30,679 Speaker 4: I you know, you spill this or that, I don't know. 236 00:12:30,760 --> 00:12:32,360 Speaker 4: It ain't gonna have a good ending. That's that's the 237 00:12:32,400 --> 00:12:37,920 Speaker 4: thing with this story, almost certainly. Yeah, that's rough. So 238 00:12:39,360 --> 00:12:41,800 Speaker 4: she was going to do the opening ceremony of the Olympics. 239 00:12:42,520 --> 00:12:43,920 Speaker 4: Savannah was going to be a big part of the 240 00:12:44,000 --> 00:12:45,320 Speaker 4: network coverage. She usually is. 241 00:12:45,480 --> 00:12:49,199 Speaker 1: Wow, her life changed a lot in the last ten days. 242 00:12:49,360 --> 00:12:51,200 Speaker 1: All right, we got other news to get to stay tuned. 243 00:12:56,440 --> 00:12:59,040 Speaker 8: And again, the last thing I want to say, immigrants 244 00:12:59,040 --> 00:13:06,160 Speaker 8: built this country literally absolutely so this is for them, 245 00:13:06,800 --> 00:13:09,559 Speaker 8: for all children of immigrants. This is also for those 246 00:13:09,559 --> 00:13:11,720 Speaker 8: who came to this country in search a better opportunity 247 00:13:11,880 --> 00:13:13,640 Speaker 8: to be a part of a nation that promised freedom 248 00:13:13,679 --> 00:13:16,920 Speaker 8: for all and equal opportunities, opportunity to everyone willing to 249 00:13:16,920 --> 00:13:19,840 Speaker 8: work for it. Thank you for bringing your culture, your music, 250 00:13:19,920 --> 00:13:23,400 Speaker 8: your stories, and your traditions here. You give America color. 251 00:13:23,559 --> 00:13:25,720 Speaker 8: I love y'all so much. Thank you. 252 00:13:25,760 --> 00:13:28,760 Speaker 4: What that's it? That's the whole thing. 253 00:13:28,880 --> 00:13:34,080 Speaker 1: Shaboozi. You're stopping their Shaboozi. That's not enough Shaboozy. I 254 00:13:34,240 --> 00:13:36,480 Speaker 1: just like to say, there's someone called Shahboozi and this 255 00:13:36,520 --> 00:13:40,319 Speaker 1: is like saying, Shaboozi. Who I like that song? Wont 256 00:13:40,320 --> 00:13:41,440 Speaker 1: a Grammy? I liked this song? 257 00:13:41,440 --> 00:13:42,920 Speaker 4: What was the one last year you won the Grammys 258 00:13:42,920 --> 00:13:45,720 Speaker 4: were about getting drunk? We're all a little bit tipsy. 259 00:13:45,880 --> 00:13:47,120 Speaker 4: That's song like that one too. 260 00:13:47,520 --> 00:13:52,080 Speaker 1: Anyway, Shaboozi finds himself in hot water after his big 261 00:13:52,120 --> 00:13:56,240 Speaker 1: Grammy win Sunday because viewers took issue with his acceptance 262 00:13:56,240 --> 00:13:59,600 Speaker 1: speech which you just heard, suggesting it ignored the role 263 00:13:59,640 --> 00:14:03,080 Speaker 1: of laved African Americans in America. 264 00:14:03,880 --> 00:14:04,360 Speaker 4: Oh boy. 265 00:14:04,520 --> 00:14:07,160 Speaker 1: He talked about the immigrant community, but as a black guy, 266 00:14:07,200 --> 00:14:09,560 Speaker 1: he didn't mention anything about this, the black people that 267 00:14:09,600 --> 00:14:10,439 Speaker 1: built this country. 268 00:14:10,720 --> 00:14:12,720 Speaker 4: It's got to be tiring to be woke. You got 269 00:14:12,720 --> 00:14:14,079 Speaker 4: to carry your checklist around with you. 270 00:14:14,559 --> 00:14:17,480 Speaker 1: And he caved into it rather than just ignoring it 271 00:14:17,600 --> 00:14:19,280 Speaker 1: or saying, if you it's. 272 00:14:19,120 --> 00:14:19,840 Speaker 4: Funny, I shut up. 273 00:14:19,920 --> 00:14:20,240 Speaker 5: Chris. 274 00:14:20,280 --> 00:14:24,080 Speaker 1: I came across an interview with Shane Gillis, the comedian. Remember, 275 00:14:24,160 --> 00:14:27,720 Speaker 1: he had some All of his humor is very very 276 00:14:27,840 --> 00:14:32,680 Speaker 1: very very edgy in all kinds of different ways, sexually, ethnically, 277 00:14:32,760 --> 00:14:33,360 Speaker 1: all kinds. 278 00:14:33,160 --> 00:14:35,360 Speaker 4: Of different ways. But so he was going to be 279 00:14:35,400 --> 00:14:36,440 Speaker 4: on Saturday Night Live. 280 00:14:36,480 --> 00:14:39,800 Speaker 1: They dug up some old tweet, became a controversy, and 281 00:14:39,840 --> 00:14:43,360 Speaker 1: they canceled him Saturday Night. I've canceled him beyond the show, 282 00:14:43,720 --> 00:14:45,560 Speaker 1: and I saw him in a podcast heday. He was 283 00:14:45,600 --> 00:14:47,520 Speaker 1: talking about his agent said, this is all they want. 284 00:14:47,520 --> 00:14:50,360 Speaker 1: They want you to make a statement that you understand 285 00:14:50,400 --> 00:14:53,240 Speaker 1: how much you hurt people and the damage that you've done. 286 00:14:53,240 --> 00:14:56,400 Speaker 1: And you probably said, I'm not apologizing for anything. Not 287 00:14:56,520 --> 00:15:00,000 Speaker 1: a freaking chance. He just was absolutely no though. Anyway, 288 00:15:00,160 --> 00:15:01,880 Speaker 1: even though that was going to be the biggest break 289 00:15:01,880 --> 00:15:04,040 Speaker 1: of his life, nobody'd ever heard of him before that, 290 00:15:04,760 --> 00:15:07,280 Speaker 1: and he's gone on to be usually successful and hosted 291 00:15:07,280 --> 00:15:09,480 Speaker 1: the show several times. I don't know why more people 292 00:15:09,520 --> 00:15:12,400 Speaker 1: don't say that, no way, I'm apologizing for this. 293 00:15:12,800 --> 00:15:14,040 Speaker 4: What are you talking about? Anyway? 294 00:15:14,040 --> 00:15:18,200 Speaker 1: Shaboozi did and amea couple posted yesterday, Shahboozi penned a 295 00:15:18,200 --> 00:15:21,360 Speaker 1: message giving more context to his words. To be clear, 296 00:15:21,440 --> 00:15:23,760 Speaker 1: I know and believe that we black people have also 297 00:15:23,800 --> 00:15:26,640 Speaker 1: built this country. My words were never intended to dismiss 298 00:15:26,680 --> 00:15:28,760 Speaker 1: that truth. I am both a black man and the 299 00:15:28,800 --> 00:15:31,480 Speaker 1: son of Nigerian immigrants, and in the overwhelming moment of 300 00:15:31,520 --> 00:15:34,720 Speaker 1: winning my first Grammy, my focus was honoring the sacrifices 301 00:15:34,760 --> 00:15:39,640 Speaker 1: of my parents, which you get to do without taking 302 00:15:39,680 --> 00:15:42,320 Speaker 1: in the entire context of everything that's ever happened in. 303 00:15:42,280 --> 00:15:45,400 Speaker 4: The world, and apologizing for their acknowledging it. 304 00:15:46,120 --> 00:15:49,080 Speaker 1: I was focused on the sacrifice of my parents there 305 00:15:49,080 --> 00:15:51,080 Speaker 1: in the moment right after I won my Grammy by 306 00:15:51,080 --> 00:15:53,080 Speaker 1: coming to this country and giving me and my siblings 307 00:15:53,120 --> 00:15:56,000 Speaker 1: opportunities they never had. He went on to note the 308 00:15:56,040 --> 00:15:59,120 Speaker 1: significance of being the first black man and the foundation 309 00:15:59,200 --> 00:16:01,560 Speaker 1: laid by generation to black people who fought sagra blah 310 00:16:01,600 --> 00:16:02,680 Speaker 1: blah blah, you. 311 00:16:02,640 --> 00:16:03,880 Speaker 4: Know, and all this sort of stuff. 312 00:16:04,080 --> 00:16:06,840 Speaker 1: Oh God, I can't see these people, all of y'all, 313 00:16:06,880 --> 00:16:08,720 Speaker 1: whether you're left, right or center, when they come for 314 00:16:08,800 --> 00:16:12,440 Speaker 1: you say, I'm not apologizing, and nobody will even remember 315 00:16:12,520 --> 00:16:14,040 Speaker 1: this tomorrow, So who cares. 316 00:16:15,560 --> 00:16:18,000 Speaker 4: I can't believe so many people give into it. I know, 317 00:16:18,040 --> 00:16:21,440 Speaker 4: these people are so exhausting. God, there's the scolds, the 318 00:16:21,600 --> 00:16:27,320 Speaker 4: Puritans of the left. Hey, and it works. And why 319 00:16:27,320 --> 00:16:29,840 Speaker 4: do you think Shibbuzzi's parents came to the United States 320 00:16:29,840 --> 00:16:33,400 Speaker 4: to give them opportunity and he praised them flavishly for that. 321 00:16:33,600 --> 00:16:35,560 Speaker 4: What does that say to you about the United States? 322 00:16:35,600 --> 00:16:40,000 Speaker 4: Go ahead, Billie Eilish, go ahead your turn. Now. Wow, 323 00:16:40,240 --> 00:16:41,360 Speaker 4: you people are delusional. 324 00:16:41,640 --> 00:16:43,680 Speaker 1: You think you're doing the right thing with the whole 325 00:16:43,720 --> 00:16:47,600 Speaker 1: Minnesota ice thing going on and everybody's wearing the ice outpins. 326 00:16:47,760 --> 00:16:49,400 Speaker 1: You get up there and you mentioned immigrants. 327 00:16:49,760 --> 00:16:52,040 Speaker 4: What no black people, no slavery. 328 00:16:52,160 --> 00:17:02,320 Speaker 1: Get a boos either. So the Epstein drama can took 329 00:17:02,360 --> 00:17:06,800 Speaker 1: in a really interesting, fairly contentious battle on a podcast 330 00:17:06,880 --> 00:17:12,119 Speaker 1: yesterday between two conservatives over whether or not, you know, 331 00:17:12,240 --> 00:17:14,960 Speaker 1: we should know this stuff. A lot of the stuff 332 00:17:14,960 --> 00:17:17,160 Speaker 1: that's in the Epstein file that has caused some real 333 00:17:17,240 --> 00:17:20,560 Speaker 1: pain for a lot of people, with one believing that, hey, 334 00:17:20,600 --> 00:17:24,120 Speaker 1: these are scumbags and we should know, and the other believing, yeah, 335 00:17:24,160 --> 00:17:28,600 Speaker 1: well they're scumbags. But we can't just go digging through 336 00:17:28,640 --> 00:17:33,840 Speaker 1: stuff and releasing information. And nobody's been charged with the crime, right, 337 00:17:34,200 --> 00:17:37,720 Speaker 1: there's a reason that's been foreboten for like forever. I've 338 00:17:37,720 --> 00:17:39,960 Speaker 1: got a perfect example of how it's being misused. 339 00:17:39,960 --> 00:17:42,560 Speaker 4: In a while Larry Summer's former. 340 00:17:43,880 --> 00:17:46,680 Speaker 1: Financial guy for Obama and Harvard president and all that 341 00:17:46,720 --> 00:17:48,919 Speaker 1: different sort of stuff, finding out he is a creepo 342 00:17:49,040 --> 00:17:52,080 Speaker 1: who is getting advice from Epstein on how to hit 343 00:17:52,200 --> 00:17:56,080 Speaker 1: on college girls. That makes him a really not great guy. 344 00:17:56,320 --> 00:18:01,320 Speaker 1: But no crime there. Do we get to know everything? 345 00:18:01,359 --> 00:18:03,160 Speaker 1: I mean, if we think we ought to know everything 346 00:18:03,200 --> 00:18:06,119 Speaker 1: about everything, well, then just install you know, taps on 347 00:18:06,160 --> 00:18:08,480 Speaker 1: everybody's phones and cameras in everybody's house, I guess. 348 00:18:09,240 --> 00:18:12,879 Speaker 4: And the issue is law enforcement has awesome powers in 349 00:18:12,920 --> 00:18:15,680 Speaker 4: our system, even with the limitations of it. And if 350 00:18:15,920 --> 00:18:18,600 Speaker 4: one of the you know, fruits of that power is 351 00:18:18,640 --> 00:18:22,720 Speaker 4: it generates great gossip because if they search Jack's house 352 00:18:22,720 --> 00:18:25,040 Speaker 4: because they think he's a drug dealer, turns out of 353 00:18:25,040 --> 00:18:27,159 Speaker 4: as the guy next door and is all wrong. But 354 00:18:27,359 --> 00:18:29,280 Speaker 4: that doesn't matter because you don't need to charge him 355 00:18:29,320 --> 00:18:31,720 Speaker 4: with anything. But they found all sorts of stuff in 356 00:18:31,760 --> 00:18:34,600 Speaker 4: his house, and now it's in the newspaper. I mean, no, 357 00:18:34,840 --> 00:18:38,200 Speaker 4: good lord, we don't want that, right. 358 00:18:39,800 --> 00:18:42,280 Speaker 1: One of the examples of this is what happened with 359 00:18:42,320 --> 00:18:48,119 Speaker 1: Bill Gates, I mean, Microsoft gazillionaire Bill Gates. Not charged 360 00:18:48,160 --> 00:18:51,440 Speaker 1: with any sort of crime. I well, I'm not even 361 00:18:51,440 --> 00:18:53,359 Speaker 1: gonna say that. But whether or not he was having 362 00:18:53,440 --> 00:18:56,640 Speaker 1: knowingly having sex with underage women, who knows. But he's 363 00:18:56,640 --> 00:18:58,320 Speaker 1: not been charged with any sort of crime or anything 364 00:18:58,359 --> 00:18:58,640 Speaker 1: like that. 365 00:18:58,840 --> 00:18:59,760 Speaker 4: But he's going to these. 366 00:18:59,680 --> 00:19:02,639 Speaker 1: Parties, he's hanging out with chicks, and his wife didn't 367 00:19:02,640 --> 00:19:06,879 Speaker 1: dig it. Her ex wife explaining how that led to 368 00:19:06,920 --> 00:19:09,200 Speaker 1: the divorce in a podcast yesterday. 369 00:19:09,400 --> 00:19:12,679 Speaker 9: I'm able to take my own sadness and look at 370 00:19:12,680 --> 00:19:16,480 Speaker 9: those young girls and say, my god, how did they 371 00:19:17,560 --> 00:19:19,040 Speaker 9: how did that happen to those girls? 372 00:19:19,240 --> 00:19:19,440 Speaker 4: Right? 373 00:19:19,720 --> 00:19:24,119 Speaker 9: And so for me, it's just sadness. Sadness for you know, 374 00:19:24,440 --> 00:19:26,920 Speaker 9: I've left, I had, I left my marriage I had 375 00:19:26,920 --> 00:19:28,800 Speaker 9: to leave my marriage. I wanted to leave my marriage. 376 00:19:28,840 --> 00:19:30,800 Speaker 9: I had to leave the fact I felt I needed 377 00:19:30,800 --> 00:19:33,600 Speaker 9: to eventually leave the foundation. So it's just sad and 378 00:19:33,640 --> 00:19:36,320 Speaker 9: it's kind of like, uh, at least for me, I've 379 00:19:36,320 --> 00:19:38,080 Speaker 9: been able to move on in life. And I hope 380 00:19:38,080 --> 00:19:41,200 Speaker 9: there's some justice for those now women. Right we see 381 00:19:41,280 --> 00:19:45,000 Speaker 9: them standing up in front of microphones in DC. What 382 00:19:45,119 --> 00:19:47,359 Speaker 9: they went through is just unimaginable, I. 383 00:19:47,359 --> 00:19:51,199 Speaker 1: Think so clearly she feels like Melinda Gates feels like 384 00:19:51,280 --> 00:19:56,240 Speaker 1: her husband was knowingly involved in having sex with women 385 00:19:56,280 --> 00:19:57,000 Speaker 1: that were trafficked. 386 00:19:59,040 --> 00:20:02,000 Speaker 4: Isn't that what that sounds like. I'm not willing to 387 00:20:02,000 --> 00:20:06,240 Speaker 4: make that leap. It's possible, at the very least he 388 00:20:06,400 --> 00:20:10,280 Speaker 4: was going to sexy, sexy parties with lots of young women. Well, 389 00:20:10,320 --> 00:20:13,720 Speaker 4: the contentious podcast, I was mentioning one of the points 390 00:20:13,720 --> 00:20:17,359 Speaker 4: that the Guy One Guy was making is. 391 00:20:18,760 --> 00:20:23,760 Speaker 1: All these people that were dealing with Epstein after he 392 00:20:23,840 --> 00:20:28,080 Speaker 1: was convicted of being a guy, a perfo who gets 393 00:20:28,160 --> 00:20:32,280 Speaker 1: involved in underage sex years after, and it was a 394 00:20:32,400 --> 00:20:36,040 Speaker 1: I mean, and if you're in Epstein's circle and that 395 00:20:36,280 --> 00:20:39,760 Speaker 1: happens to him, and then you continue to go to 396 00:20:39,800 --> 00:20:44,040 Speaker 1: his island to party or fly on his plane or 397 00:20:44,080 --> 00:20:44,840 Speaker 1: email with him. 398 00:20:44,880 --> 00:20:46,680 Speaker 4: That makes you a certain kind of person. 399 00:20:46,840 --> 00:20:50,239 Speaker 1: If one of my friends gets convicted of, you know, 400 00:20:50,359 --> 00:20:54,119 Speaker 1: trafficking underage girls, I doubt if I go to his 401 00:20:54,160 --> 00:20:55,600 Speaker 1: big swing in parties anymore. 402 00:20:56,920 --> 00:20:59,520 Speaker 4: No, oh, good lord, No, no, I'm just I'm trying 403 00:20:59,560 --> 00:21:02,200 Speaker 4: to remember it exactly what the charges were that were 404 00:21:03,320 --> 00:21:09,520 Speaker 4: weirdly dumbed down or you know, softened. Is it even 405 00:21:09,520 --> 00:21:15,600 Speaker 4: conceivable that he was telling people? Look, I swear to god, 406 00:21:15,680 --> 00:21:18,000 Speaker 4: I thought she was eighteen. She told me she was eighteen. 407 00:21:18,119 --> 00:21:20,920 Speaker 4: She showed me a driver's license. Terrible. I can't believe 408 00:21:20,960 --> 00:21:23,359 Speaker 4: somebody would be that dishonest, and blah blah blah. And 409 00:21:23,400 --> 00:21:28,199 Speaker 4: they believed him because they wanted to, or they just 410 00:21:28,240 --> 00:21:30,879 Speaker 4: they don't care about underage sex. 411 00:21:31,080 --> 00:21:33,080 Speaker 1: Well, and then then there's different levels of the ick. 412 00:21:33,200 --> 00:21:35,640 Speaker 1: There's the it's a crime and it should be a crime, 413 00:21:35,640 --> 00:21:38,479 Speaker 1: and that's disgusting. But even if it's an eighteen year 414 00:21:38,520 --> 00:21:41,160 Speaker 1: old and you're forty five or whatever, and you're going 415 00:21:41,160 --> 00:21:43,160 Speaker 1: to a party to have sex with eighteen year olds 416 00:21:43,160 --> 00:21:47,120 Speaker 1: with this guy you know and ain't cool, So that's 417 00:21:47,119 --> 00:21:50,120 Speaker 1: not a crime, but ain't good for you? 418 00:21:50,119 --> 00:21:51,439 Speaker 4: Your wife, ain't gonna dig it. A lot of your 419 00:21:51,440 --> 00:21:55,040 Speaker 4: friends ain't gonna dig it. There are shockwaves going through 420 00:21:55,040 --> 00:21:58,399 Speaker 4: the British government right now because some really really influential 421 00:21:58,440 --> 00:22:02,360 Speaker 4: figures not only stayed in with the guy the post conviction, 422 00:22:02,800 --> 00:22:06,240 Speaker 4: but were like regularly in touch with him a lot 423 00:22:06,800 --> 00:22:10,480 Speaker 4: about financial stuff, especially evidently he was such a mover 424 00:22:10,600 --> 00:22:12,639 Speaker 4: and shaker and networker that people are like, yeah, I 425 00:22:12,640 --> 00:22:14,639 Speaker 4: know he's a scumbag, but you know, I'm going to 426 00:22:14,680 --> 00:22:15,719 Speaker 4: stay in touch with him. 427 00:22:16,080 --> 00:22:22,520 Speaker 1: But then you got people referencing the completely unverified because 428 00:22:22,520 --> 00:22:27,000 Speaker 1: they couldn't be verified, salacious claims that are in you know, 429 00:22:27,040 --> 00:22:30,440 Speaker 1: some of the documents in the Epstein files, like California 430 00:22:30,480 --> 00:22:34,000 Speaker 1: Democrat Representative Ted lew Why. 431 00:22:34,280 --> 00:22:38,320 Speaker 2: Are Republicans so interested in Bill Hillary Clinton is because 432 00:22:38,320 --> 00:22:41,479 Speaker 2: they're trying to distract from the fact that Donald Trump 433 00:22:41,720 --> 00:22:46,240 Speaker 2: is in the Epstein files thousands and thousands of times. 434 00:22:46,280 --> 00:22:50,800 Speaker 2: In those files, there's highly disturbing allegations of Donald Trump 435 00:22:51,040 --> 00:22:55,720 Speaker 2: raping children, of Donald Trump threatening to kill children. 436 00:22:56,760 --> 00:23:01,440 Speaker 1: There are, but there there's no nothing to them, as 437 00:23:01,480 --> 00:23:07,479 Speaker 1: determined by multiple investigative branches of law enforcement and the 438 00:23:07,600 --> 00:23:10,480 Speaker 1: Justice Department and everything else. These crackpots, I mean, we 439 00:23:10,520 --> 00:23:14,840 Speaker 1: talked yesterday about the whole George H. W. Bush dismembering babies. Yes, 440 00:23:15,119 --> 00:23:16,800 Speaker 1: that was it. That's in one of the documents. 441 00:23:18,720 --> 00:23:22,560 Speaker 4: So what because they documented every crack pot anonymous tip. 442 00:23:23,720 --> 00:23:24,760 Speaker 4: And then there's the weird part. 443 00:23:24,800 --> 00:23:26,760 Speaker 1: Because Trump was running for president, there was a whole 444 00:23:26,800 --> 00:23:31,320 Speaker 1: bunch of a flurry of crazy anonymous tips that came 445 00:23:31,359 --> 00:23:35,080 Speaker 1: in right before the twenty twenty election, almost certainly organized 446 00:23:35,080 --> 00:23:37,920 Speaker 1: in some way to discredit him, hoping that will get 447 00:23:37,920 --> 00:23:41,719 Speaker 1: into the you know, the bloodstream of journalism about Trump. 448 00:23:41,880 --> 00:23:44,960 Speaker 1: But I mean, for all the things you think about Trump, 449 00:23:45,000 --> 00:23:47,719 Speaker 1: even if you hate Trump, do you believe he's raping 450 00:23:47,920 --> 00:23:50,480 Speaker 1: and killing children? I mean, come on, if you do, 451 00:23:50,880 --> 00:23:53,720 Speaker 1: you're so far down the road of Trump derangement syndrome 452 00:23:53,800 --> 00:23:54,639 Speaker 1: there's no saving you. 453 00:23:54,960 --> 00:23:57,400 Speaker 4: That's a California congressman. 454 00:23:57,000 --> 00:23:57,199 Speaker 5: I know. 455 00:23:57,960 --> 00:23:58,959 Speaker 4: Can you believe that? 456 00:23:59,359 --> 00:24:04,119 Speaker 1: Suggest Yes, the current president rapes and kills children in 457 00:24:04,119 --> 00:24:06,439 Speaker 1: front of others. Because all the powerful are into that 458 00:24:06,480 --> 00:24:08,719 Speaker 1: and so comfortable with it, they just keep it a secret. 459 00:24:08,920 --> 00:24:12,720 Speaker 4: I mean that's nuts. Yeah. Well, here's the mass. If 460 00:24:12,720 --> 00:24:16,320 Speaker 4: you're a reasonable moderate Democrat, you think, oh that's not right, 461 00:24:16,400 --> 00:24:18,399 Speaker 4: but you stay a Democrat if you're kind of a 462 00:24:18,680 --> 00:24:22,000 Speaker 4: mid crazy Democrat. You think he's on our side. That's 463 00:24:22,000 --> 00:24:24,160 Speaker 4: probably not true, but he's on our side. If you're 464 00:24:24,160 --> 00:24:27,240 Speaker 4: a crazy ass Democrat, you think, yes, we've got to 465 00:24:27,280 --> 00:24:30,439 Speaker 4: nail him for the baby killing. Well and so no, 466 00:24:30,720 --> 00:24:34,520 Speaker 4: there's no losing for Ted Lou. That's the world we're in. Well, yeah, 467 00:24:34,560 --> 00:24:35,000 Speaker 4: that's true. 468 00:24:35,119 --> 00:24:38,399 Speaker 1: You just except every person that I personally know, and 469 00:24:38,440 --> 00:24:41,720 Speaker 1: it's only a handful, they're all MAGA or formally Mega. 470 00:24:41,840 --> 00:24:45,800 Speaker 1: They ain't Democrats, they're formally Mega, and they believe the 471 00:24:45,840 --> 00:24:49,399 Speaker 1: whole hw Bush and Trump raping and killing baby stuff. 472 00:24:50,280 --> 00:24:55,600 Speaker 4: So it's a complicated stew of who is into this. Yeah, 473 00:24:55,640 --> 00:24:58,040 Speaker 4: who and what MEGA is at this point is pretty 474 00:24:58,320 --> 00:25:01,000 Speaker 4: difficult to pin down. So one more example. I think 475 00:25:01,000 --> 00:25:05,440 Speaker 4: this is a quintessential example of the misuse of in 476 00:25:05,640 --> 00:25:09,639 Speaker 4: the Epstein files. This is Elex Michaelson, which sounds like 477 00:25:09,680 --> 00:25:14,520 Speaker 4: a made up name, on CNN talking to Antonio Villa Garosa, 478 00:25:15,000 --> 00:25:21,960 Speaker 4: who is a huge person in LA politics, especially California politics. 479 00:25:21,960 --> 00:25:25,080 Speaker 4: He's run for every office in the land and is running. 480 00:25:25,160 --> 00:25:29,159 Speaker 4: He hopes for governor soon fifty seven. Please, Michael, So 481 00:25:29,320 --> 00:25:30,480 Speaker 4: you made some news today. 482 00:25:31,320 --> 00:25:35,800 Speaker 10: You called on Steve Hilton, the Republican candidate to drop 483 00:25:35,840 --> 00:25:40,159 Speaker 10: out of the race because his name was included in 484 00:25:40,200 --> 00:25:43,640 Speaker 10: the Epstein files. I've got the document of how it's included. 485 00:25:44,320 --> 00:25:48,000 Speaker 10: It's not him writing, it's somebody else writing, saying, dear Jeffrey, 486 00:25:48,040 --> 00:25:50,600 Speaker 10: just in case your friend Woody Allen is interested. This 487 00:25:50,680 --> 00:25:53,440 Speaker 10: is from David Cameron's office, Rohan Silva, head of Prime 488 00:25:53,440 --> 00:25:56,920 Speaker 10: Minister's Policy Unit. Steve Hilton, Director of Strategy. If he's 489 00:25:56,920 --> 00:25:59,359 Speaker 10: in London anytime soon, love to welcome to number ten. 490 00:25:59,440 --> 00:26:02,840 Speaker 10: So Stelton was working for David Cameron and they were 491 00:26:02,880 --> 00:26:05,000 Speaker 10: interested in potentially having. 492 00:26:04,760 --> 00:26:06,320 Speaker 4: Lunch with Woody Allen. 493 00:26:07,960 --> 00:26:11,680 Speaker 10: Do you have any evidence that Steve Hilton ever was 494 00:26:11,840 --> 00:26:13,880 Speaker 10: with Jeffrey Epstein or even on the island. 495 00:26:14,440 --> 00:26:15,280 Speaker 4: Well, this is what we know. 496 00:26:16,480 --> 00:26:21,399 Speaker 7: When that email was written, Jeffrey Epstein was already a 497 00:26:21,520 --> 00:26:27,960 Speaker 7: convicted sex offender. Okay, he's asking through a circuit. 498 00:26:28,680 --> 00:26:30,280 Speaker 4: We don't know if he's asking somebody. 499 00:26:30,400 --> 00:26:31,679 Speaker 10: Somebody else is asking. 500 00:26:31,760 --> 00:26:32,840 Speaker 4: It's not even his email. 501 00:26:33,440 --> 00:26:39,200 Speaker 7: He's saying that Steve Hilton is keen on meeting Woody Allen, 502 00:26:39,520 --> 00:26:44,040 Speaker 7: who had already married his daughter, his stepdaughter who he 503 00:26:44,080 --> 00:26:48,440 Speaker 7: had raised. I find that disgusting and I think most 504 00:26:48,480 --> 00:26:52,159 Speaker 7: people do. Look, Democrats and Republicans don't agree on a 505 00:26:52,160 --> 00:26:56,399 Speaker 7: whole lot, but they do agree that what's been coming 506 00:26:56,440 --> 00:26:59,600 Speaker 7: out about Jeffrey Epstein is disgusting. 507 00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:06,440 Speaker 4: Wow, Okay, all right, wow, nuts and senile. So David Cameron, 508 00:27:06,720 --> 00:27:11,600 Speaker 4: who Steve Hilton worked for, was somewhat interested in meeting 509 00:27:11,600 --> 00:27:16,879 Speaker 4: Woody Allen, and a different person completely reached out to 510 00:27:17,040 --> 00:27:21,280 Speaker 4: Epstein and mentioned if Woody would have any interest in it, 511 00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:24,399 Speaker 4: Steve might be the guy to reach out to or 512 00:27:24,440 --> 00:27:26,920 Speaker 4: something like. Okay, for that reason, the ott to withdraw 513 00:27:27,000 --> 00:27:30,480 Speaker 4: from the pleas wow wow. 514 00:27:30,320 --> 00:27:32,960 Speaker 1: And again it crosses all kinds of political lines where 515 00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:36,280 Speaker 1: I've heard people say, did you hear Steve Hilton's mentioned 516 00:27:36,280 --> 00:27:39,760 Speaker 1: in the Epstein Files, And like that sentence is enough 517 00:27:39,800 --> 00:27:41,600 Speaker 1: to mean something for some people. 518 00:27:43,400 --> 00:27:46,159 Speaker 4: Everybody. Well, there are a variety of versions of this 519 00:27:46,200 --> 00:27:49,760 Speaker 4: have obviously, but a fair number of people think in 520 00:27:49,840 --> 00:27:54,520 Speaker 4: the Epstein Files, name shows up named as an offender. 521 00:27:54,720 --> 00:27:57,960 Speaker 1: Right, name shows up in the Epstein Files means video 522 00:27:58,119 --> 00:28:01,080 Speaker 1: of you with an underage girl having sex their equivalent. 523 00:28:01,400 --> 00:28:02,560 Speaker 4: That's so crazy. 524 00:28:02,840 --> 00:28:07,879 Speaker 1: You realize we're all doomed, or at least anybody in 525 00:28:07,920 --> 00:28:10,359 Speaker 1: public life. The whole idea of being in public life 526 00:28:10,400 --> 00:28:12,800 Speaker 1: is just gonna come to an end if we allow 527 00:28:12,920 --> 00:28:17,960 Speaker 1: this to continue to where just being named in anything 528 00:28:18,240 --> 00:28:22,199 Speaker 1: without being accused of anything or any facts could make 529 00:28:22,240 --> 00:28:24,359 Speaker 1: you persona non grata. I mean that's crazy. 530 00:28:24,960 --> 00:28:28,440 Speaker 4: Lowest common denominator America. Welcome to it. How you liking it? 531 00:28:28,520 --> 00:28:32,080 Speaker 4: Everybody enjoying themselves? Super Hey, a word from our friends 532 00:28:32,119 --> 00:28:36,560 Speaker 4: at rough Grains. This is a supplement for your dog's diet. 533 00:28:36,600 --> 00:28:38,960 Speaker 4: It's not a new food. 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The promo code is Armstrong gott. 553 00:29:33,800 --> 00:29:36,160 Speaker 1: I had another example of that sort of thing, if 554 00:29:36,200 --> 00:29:41,440 Speaker 1: I can find it. I don't know if I can, 555 00:29:41,760 --> 00:29:48,280 Speaker 1: but it was like the really trying to extrapolate a nothing, 556 00:29:48,960 --> 00:29:52,280 Speaker 1: a nothing into being, you know, part of the whole 557 00:29:52,280 --> 00:29:56,480 Speaker 1: Epstein saga, whatever that is with somebody who'd send an email, 558 00:29:56,480 --> 00:30:00,600 Speaker 1: okay in one category, here you go, prizewinning novel Joyce 559 00:30:00,640 --> 00:30:02,960 Speaker 1: Carol Oates. You probably know who she is if you 560 00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:07,560 Speaker 1: read it all posts an Epstein email about groceries and 561 00:30:07,640 --> 00:30:11,480 Speaker 1: concludes that the term buying muffins and steaks must refer 562 00:30:11,560 --> 00:30:13,360 Speaker 1: to small children being abused. 563 00:30:14,120 --> 00:30:15,120 Speaker 4: It's got to be code. 564 00:30:15,160 --> 00:30:18,080 Speaker 1: When it was just an email to somebody about it 565 00:30:18,120 --> 00:30:20,640 Speaker 1: looks like grocery. Because I got all of his emails 566 00:30:20,920 --> 00:30:25,400 Speaker 1: over gazillions of years, including lots of mundane stuff. But 567 00:30:25,480 --> 00:30:27,480 Speaker 1: in the case of Joyce Carol Oates, you're reading into 568 00:30:27,520 --> 00:30:29,959 Speaker 1: it that saying go to the grocery store for muffins 569 00:30:29,960 --> 00:30:33,800 Speaker 1: and sakes clearly means trafficking children around the world. 570 00:30:34,960 --> 00:30:38,239 Speaker 4: All right, I don't have the energy, yep uh. 571 00:30:39,640 --> 00:30:41,960 Speaker 1: And then so when the Democrats take the house back, 572 00:30:42,280 --> 00:30:43,960 Speaker 1: this like gets re energized. 573 00:30:44,080 --> 00:30:48,680 Speaker 4: Is that what's going to happen to what Ty Trump 574 00:30:48,720 --> 00:30:52,280 Speaker 4: to it? I don't know. I mean, it's more Democrats 575 00:30:52,360 --> 00:30:54,000 Speaker 4: than Republicans with the guys. 576 00:30:54,040 --> 00:30:56,880 Speaker 1: The Republicans are forcing at the point of jail time, 577 00:30:57,400 --> 00:30:59,440 Speaker 1: Democrats the Clintons to testify. 578 00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:03,560 Speaker 4: So the politics again are all over the place on this. Well, 579 00:31:03,560 --> 00:31:08,000 Speaker 4: everybody's trying to smear everybody else, right, absolutely, any thoughts 580 00:31:08,040 --> 00:31:10,400 Speaker 4: theirs are trying to smear themselves. That's weird. 581 00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:14,120 Speaker 1: Text line four one five two nine five k FTC 582 00:31:15,560 --> 00:31:16,760 Speaker 1: are strong and getty. 583 00:31:18,520 --> 00:31:22,360 Speaker 11: I completely ruptured my ACL. I also have bone bruising 584 00:31:22,800 --> 00:31:26,200 Speaker 11: plus myscal damage, which we're not sure if that was 585 00:31:26,400 --> 00:31:29,440 Speaker 11: pre existing or from the crash. I know what my 586 00:31:29,560 --> 00:31:33,440 Speaker 11: chances were before the crash, and I know my chances 587 00:31:33,440 --> 00:31:35,680 Speaker 11: aren't the same as it stands today, but I know 588 00:31:35,720 --> 00:31:38,120 Speaker 11: there's still a chance, and as long as there's a chance, 589 00:31:38,680 --> 00:31:39,320 Speaker 11: I will try. 590 00:31:39,520 --> 00:31:40,720 Speaker 4: Wow, that's Lindsey Vaughn. 591 00:31:41,240 --> 00:31:45,400 Speaker 1: Total rupture of her ecl I mean, I'm I'm not 592 00:31:45,480 --> 00:31:47,560 Speaker 1: a doctor, and I all I know is what I 593 00:31:47,560 --> 00:31:51,440 Speaker 1: would hear my favorite player get that injury, and how 594 00:31:51,480 --> 00:31:53,200 Speaker 1: while they're out for the season and may never be 595 00:31:53,280 --> 00:31:56,080 Speaker 1: the same again. She did it like three days ago, 596 00:31:56,640 --> 00:31:58,520 Speaker 1: and she's gonna ski in the next. 597 00:31:58,400 --> 00:31:59,840 Speaker 4: Couple of days. I don't I don't even see how 598 00:32:00,000 --> 00:32:03,920 Speaker 4: it's possible. Well, I don't know what the diagnosis is exactly. 599 00:32:05,920 --> 00:32:07,520 Speaker 4: I wonder if she will she have her leg like 600 00:32:07,680 --> 00:32:11,840 Speaker 4: so immobilely braced. I don't even know ca. I can't 601 00:32:11,880 --> 00:32:17,000 Speaker 4: imagine might have to remove the leg scan a pegg 602 00:32:17,040 --> 00:32:20,200 Speaker 4: leg that happened before, which has happened to go back 603 00:32:20,200 --> 00:32:24,920 Speaker 4: to the nineteen thirty eight Winter Games, And you know. 604 00:32:27,680 --> 00:32:30,600 Speaker 1: I could definitely see how because this is her last 605 00:32:30,640 --> 00:32:35,120 Speaker 1: go around. She retired five years ago. Then, like a 606 00:32:35,120 --> 00:32:39,680 Speaker 1: lot of these athletes, I don't know this, but I'm 607 00:32:39,680 --> 00:32:44,400 Speaker 1: guessing she's finding the adjustment to mundane regular life and 608 00:32:44,440 --> 00:32:48,320 Speaker 1: other things not that enjoyable, like you know, swimmer Phelps 609 00:32:48,360 --> 00:32:50,720 Speaker 1: or lots of different people over the years decided to 610 00:32:50,760 --> 00:32:53,360 Speaker 1: come back and ski some more, and she knows this 611 00:32:53,400 --> 00:32:55,280 Speaker 1: is it. I could see how she would go out 612 00:32:55,280 --> 00:33:00,080 Speaker 1: there and ski in horrible pain, with zero chance of 613 00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:03,640 Speaker 1: doing well at all, just because the idea of giving 614 00:33:03,720 --> 00:33:06,160 Speaker 1: up on the whole thing forever is too much to take. 615 00:33:06,360 --> 00:33:08,480 Speaker 4: And a good chance of really screwing up her knee, 616 00:33:08,480 --> 00:33:13,760 Speaker 4: which means months of pain for surgeries, rehabs, training, et cetera. 617 00:33:13,920 --> 00:33:15,680 Speaker 4: Just to get back to I can walk down the 618 00:33:15,760 --> 00:33:19,959 Speaker 4: street normally or play little tennis. By the way, it's 619 00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:21,719 Speaker 4: funny we should bring this up. I happen to be 620 00:33:21,840 --> 00:33:24,920 Speaker 4: during the break looking at a really interesting slow motion 621 00:33:25,040 --> 00:33:29,520 Speaker 4: analysis of how iliamalanin Who's going to be America's Golden 622 00:33:29,560 --> 00:33:31,720 Speaker 4: Boy soon. He's the world's greatest figure skater. 623 00:33:31,880 --> 00:33:35,160 Speaker 1: The kid god God is online moniker and he's a 624 00:33:35,200 --> 00:33:38,320 Speaker 1: high schooler. And he's a kid that's landed several quads 625 00:33:38,320 --> 00:33:40,760 Speaker 1: in competition. The only people that person that's ever done that. 626 00:33:42,280 --> 00:33:45,080 Speaker 4: I have no idea as to his educational achievement. Jack 627 00:33:45,120 --> 00:33:48,920 Speaker 4: but very young, if I remember correctly, Yeah, he's young man. 628 00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:52,640 Speaker 4: Look at that. Wait a minute, looking it's a slow 629 00:33:52,760 --> 00:33:53,360 Speaker 4: down video. 630 00:33:53,880 --> 00:33:57,040 Speaker 1: This is the time of the every four years where 631 00:33:57,040 --> 00:33:59,520 Speaker 1: we all become ice skating experts. 632 00:34:00,400 --> 00:34:03,240 Speaker 4: Look at him. Right here, he's on the ice, on 633 00:34:03,360 --> 00:34:06,560 Speaker 4: the ice. Then right here, he's two and a half 634 00:34:06,560 --> 00:34:10,759 Speaker 4: feet above the ice. How do you do that wing? 635 00:34:10,880 --> 00:34:14,640 Speaker 4: That's impossible? Good lord, He's weightless. 636 00:34:14,840 --> 00:34:17,120 Speaker 1: And then he spends four complete times and lands on 637 00:34:17,160 --> 00:34:20,320 Speaker 1: his skates. Well, see, that's that's what I'm trying to assess, 638 00:34:20,480 --> 00:34:23,239 Speaker 1: you actually, And then does he do that thing what 639 00:34:23,280 --> 00:34:25,400 Speaker 1: Will Ferrell did in the movie, or he swings his 640 00:34:25,400 --> 00:34:29,120 Speaker 1: foot cuts of guy's head off. You hate it when 641 00:34:29,120 --> 00:34:32,719 Speaker 1: that of have you've never seen the Blades of Glory? 642 00:34:33,160 --> 00:34:35,719 Speaker 4: That's a funny movie. All right, there's one turn. He's 643 00:34:35,719 --> 00:34:40,640 Speaker 4: facing the camera again. He's facing the camera again. Good lord, 644 00:34:41,400 --> 00:34:44,360 Speaker 4: good lord, He's like a makita drill. 645 00:34:45,000 --> 00:34:45,879 Speaker 5: How do you do that? 646 00:34:46,000 --> 00:34:48,040 Speaker 1: I've never understood how you count the spins. I can't 647 00:34:48,040 --> 00:34:50,520 Speaker 1: tell two from three. I certainly can't talk three from. 648 00:34:50,320 --> 00:34:54,840 Speaker 4: Four in real time as a commentator. And how do 649 00:34:54,920 --> 00:34:59,440 Speaker 4: you you know? I play games where like with a screwdriver, 650 00:34:59,719 --> 00:35:01,719 Speaker 4: I'll flip it half a turn. Yeah, I'll do a 651 00:35:01,760 --> 00:35:03,560 Speaker 4: whole turn, and I'll do it and I'll see how 652 00:35:03,600 --> 00:35:06,319 Speaker 4: far I can get, but you don't get very far 653 00:35:06,360 --> 00:35:09,400 Speaker 4: into that before you realize, Boy, controlling the energy between 654 00:35:09,480 --> 00:35:12,319 Speaker 4: like two turns and two and a half turns is 655 00:35:12,760 --> 00:35:15,360 Speaker 4: incredibly percise. How do you do that when you're leaping 656 00:35:15,400 --> 00:35:19,720 Speaker 4: into the air whirling aboute without cameras and the ability 657 00:35:19,760 --> 00:35:21,239 Speaker 4: to check and slow it down? I think you could 658 00:35:21,320 --> 00:35:23,640 Speaker 4: land it and say that was a quint It wasn't. Yes, 659 00:35:23,680 --> 00:35:29,239 Speaker 4: it was. Are you gonna tell me it wasn't right? Right? 660 00:35:29,600 --> 00:35:32,960 Speaker 4: You know? I just realized five times I had the 661 00:35:33,040 --> 00:35:35,200 Speaker 4: road I should have traveled back when I used to 662 00:35:35,200 --> 00:35:38,480 Speaker 4: ice skate a lot. I should have become a figure 663 00:35:38,520 --> 00:35:42,440 Speaker 4: skating clown, like between the real skaters, the great skaters. 664 00:35:42,800 --> 00:35:45,320 Speaker 4: I would come out and do a comedy route like 665 00:35:45,640 --> 00:35:49,160 Speaker 4: rodeo clowns, entertaining people between the thing. Yeah, oh, I'd 666 00:35:49,160 --> 00:35:51,200 Speaker 4: be huge, I'd be at all the big meats. 667 00:35:51,320 --> 00:35:51,560 Speaker 7: Damn. 668 00:35:51,680 --> 00:35:53,920 Speaker 4: When you skated, did you have sparkly outfit and everything 669 00:35:53,960 --> 00:35:56,640 Speaker 4: like that? Usually? Yeah, those are my street clothes. I've 670 00:35:56,719 --> 00:36:00,200 Speaker 4: always loved sparkles, armstrong and get h