1 00:00:02,560 --> 00:00:07,040 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Audio Studios, podcasts, radio news. 2 00:00:10,039 --> 00:00:13,200 Speaker 2: Good morning, I'm Nathan Hager and I'm Karen Moscow. Here 3 00:00:13,240 --> 00:00:14,960 Speaker 2: are the stories we're following today. 4 00:00:15,160 --> 00:00:18,079 Speaker 3: Can we begin with the latest developments in the trade war. 5 00:00:18,160 --> 00:00:22,880 Speaker 3: This morning, China demanded that the US revoke all unilateral tariffs. 6 00:00:23,040 --> 00:00:26,000 Speaker 3: Spokesman for the Chinese Ministry of Commerce says there are 7 00:00:26,079 --> 00:00:29,240 Speaker 3: no talks on reaching a trade deal. This comes less 8 00:00:29,240 --> 00:00:31,840 Speaker 3: than twenty four hours after President Trump said he would 9 00:00:31,840 --> 00:00:34,680 Speaker 3: be willing to substantially pair back tariffs on China. 10 00:00:35,200 --> 00:00:37,559 Speaker 4: We're dealing with a lot of countries right now, and 11 00:00:38,320 --> 00:00:41,519 Speaker 4: it could be with China. But maybe we'll make a special, 12 00:00:41,760 --> 00:00:44,440 Speaker 4: you know, a deal, and we'll see what it will be. 13 00:00:44,560 --> 00:00:46,320 Speaker 4: Right now, it's one hundred and forty five percent. 14 00:00:46,360 --> 00:00:49,520 Speaker 5: That's very high. It got there because of the fentanyl. 15 00:00:50,280 --> 00:00:54,240 Speaker 4: They're sending massive amounts of fentanyl into our country. 16 00:00:54,800 --> 00:00:57,600 Speaker 3: President Trump said he could announce tariff rates for countries, 17 00:00:57,640 --> 00:00:59,920 Speaker 3: including China, over the next two to three weeks. 18 00:01:00,560 --> 00:01:03,040 Speaker 2: Well Nathan stocks are coming off back to back gains 19 00:01:03,080 --> 00:01:05,800 Speaker 2: after President Trump eased off on two of his frequent 20 00:01:05,920 --> 00:01:09,560 Speaker 2: punching bags, China and Jerome Powell, and sources say Trump 21 00:01:09,600 --> 00:01:12,319 Speaker 2: turned down his aggressive rhetoric a day after meeting with 22 00:01:12,440 --> 00:01:16,120 Speaker 2: executives from Walmart, Home Depot and Target, who said important 23 00:01:16,160 --> 00:01:20,600 Speaker 2: taxes could disrupt supply chains and raise the prices of goods. Meanwhile, 24 00:01:20,680 --> 00:01:24,240 Speaker 2: Citadel founder Ken Griffiths said the trade war has disrupted 25 00:01:24,400 --> 00:01:27,640 Speaker 2: the ability of business leaders to focus on long term growth. 26 00:01:28,040 --> 00:01:31,240 Speaker 6: All of us were really looking forward to four years 27 00:01:31,280 --> 00:01:33,800 Speaker 6: of having a chance to really grow our businesses, and 28 00:01:33,959 --> 00:01:39,480 Speaker 6: unfortunately the trade war, which has devolved into a nonsensical place, 29 00:01:40,080 --> 00:01:42,840 Speaker 6: means that we're spending time now thinking about supply chains, 30 00:01:43,240 --> 00:01:46,759 Speaker 6: thinking about strategically how we're going to source goods around 31 00:01:46,760 --> 00:01:49,600 Speaker 6: the world. And I'll tell you what's not going to happen, 32 00:01:49,920 --> 00:01:52,240 Speaker 6: because people are not going to raise the build manufactured 33 00:01:52,240 --> 00:01:52,840 Speaker 6: in America. 34 00:01:53,240 --> 00:01:56,560 Speaker 2: Citadel founder Ken Griffin made the comments at the Semaphore 35 00:01:56,680 --> 00:01:58,480 Speaker 2: World Economy Summit. 36 00:01:58,360 --> 00:01:58,840 Speaker 7: Thank Karen. 37 00:01:58,880 --> 00:02:01,800 Speaker 3: The Trump administration and is considering whether to reduce certain 38 00:02:01,840 --> 00:02:04,840 Speaker 3: tariffs targeting the auto industry. We get the very latest 39 00:02:04,880 --> 00:02:06,920 Speaker 3: on that now with Bloomberg's John Tucker. 40 00:02:06,760 --> 00:02:10,359 Speaker 8: John and Nathan Discussions or underway after auto executives where 41 00:02:10,400 --> 00:02:13,840 Speaker 8: in taris would deal as severe blow to profits and jobs. 42 00:02:13,840 --> 00:02:17,000 Speaker 8: Sources tell us one proposal would spare automobiles and parts 43 00:02:17,120 --> 00:02:21,080 Speaker 8: already subject to taris from facing additional duties from steel 44 00:02:21,120 --> 00:02:24,920 Speaker 8: and aluminum imports. Another option being studied would fully exempt 45 00:02:24,919 --> 00:02:28,200 Speaker 8: to auto parts that comply with the US Mexico Canada 46 00:02:28,240 --> 00:02:32,440 Speaker 8: Trade Pact. But President Trump's tarrent policies often changed quickly, 47 00:02:32,600 --> 00:02:35,320 Speaker 8: so nobody knows for sure. In the Oval Office he 48 00:02:35,320 --> 00:02:37,960 Speaker 8: as today, Trump was asked if he's considering changes to 49 00:02:38,000 --> 00:02:42,160 Speaker 8: auto terrace and indicated he was not well, also suggesting 50 00:02:42,200 --> 00:02:45,280 Speaker 8: he might even increase levies on the Canadian auto sector. 51 00:02:45,600 --> 00:02:48,000 Speaker 8: And meantime, President Trump plans to mark one hundred days 52 00:02:48,000 --> 00:02:51,160 Speaker 8: in office by visiting the carmaking hub of Macomb County, 53 00:02:51,160 --> 00:02:54,079 Speaker 8: Michigan that's home to facilities tied to General Motors and 54 00:02:54,200 --> 00:02:57,639 Speaker 8: Stilantis in New York. I'm John Tucker, Bloomberg Radio. 55 00:02:57,919 --> 00:02:59,639 Speaker 2: All right, John, thank you. Well. There's at least one 56 00:02:59,680 --> 00:03:04,160 Speaker 2: company saying tariffs will benefit its business going forward. Whirlpool 57 00:03:04,280 --> 00:03:06,799 Speaker 2: says the long term impact of tariffs will benefit its 58 00:03:06,800 --> 00:03:09,720 Speaker 2: position in the US home appliance market. We spoke with 59 00:03:09,840 --> 00:03:11,760 Speaker 2: Whirlpool CEO Mark Bitzer. 60 00:03:11,880 --> 00:03:14,160 Speaker 9: No matter how you look at it, we're structuring a 61 00:03:14,240 --> 00:03:17,360 Speaker 9: net winner of a tariff now, there's always two sides 62 00:03:17,400 --> 00:03:20,200 Speaker 9: of equation. In a short term, there are some what 63 00:03:20,240 --> 00:03:23,040 Speaker 9: I would call manageable headwinds in the form of higher 64 00:03:23,080 --> 00:03:26,280 Speaker 9: component costs. We also saw quite a bit of loading 65 00:03:26,320 --> 00:03:28,920 Speaker 9: by competitors into the industry. But the long term, in 66 00:03:28,960 --> 00:03:33,000 Speaker 9: particular one mid term particular, once week tariffs fully kick in, 67 00:03:33,320 --> 00:03:35,400 Speaker 9: we are net winner in this environment. 68 00:03:35,480 --> 00:03:38,400 Speaker 2: And world pool of CEO Mark Bitzer maintained the refrigerator 69 00:03:38,440 --> 00:03:39,920 Speaker 2: makers full year forecast. 70 00:03:40,080 --> 00:03:43,000 Speaker 3: Well, Karen, Controversies over tariffs could be taking a slice 71 00:03:43,000 --> 00:03:46,000 Speaker 3: out of President Trump's approval rating. The New York Times 72 00:03:46,120 --> 00:03:49,040 Speaker 3: is reporting the rating has sunk to about forty five percent. 73 00:03:49,400 --> 00:03:52,360 Speaker 3: That's down from fifty two percent one week after the 74 00:03:52,360 --> 00:03:53,680 Speaker 3: president took office. 75 00:03:53,840 --> 00:03:55,839 Speaker 2: Well, now, Nathan, let's get the latest on the war 76 00:03:55,880 --> 00:03:58,920 Speaker 2: in Ukraine. Russia launched a barrage of missiles and drones 77 00:03:58,960 --> 00:04:02,120 Speaker 2: on eight regions over including the capital Kief. At least 78 00:04:02,240 --> 00:04:05,360 Speaker 2: nine people were killed more than seventy others hurt. The 79 00:04:05,440 --> 00:04:08,960 Speaker 2: latest assault came hours after President Trump accused Ukrainian leader 80 00:04:08,960 --> 00:04:11,320 Speaker 2: of Vladimir Zelenski of prolonging the war. 81 00:04:11,840 --> 00:04:13,440 Speaker 5: I think we have a deal with Russia. 82 00:04:13,480 --> 00:04:16,040 Speaker 4: We have to get a deal with Zelensky, and I 83 00:04:16,080 --> 00:04:18,640 Speaker 4: hope that Selenski. I thought it might be easier to 84 00:04:18,680 --> 00:04:22,080 Speaker 4: deal with Zelenski. So far it's been harder. But that's okay. 85 00:04:22,240 --> 00:04:22,960 Speaker 5: It's so right. 86 00:04:23,480 --> 00:04:26,920 Speaker 2: President Trump spoke from the Oval Office as heard on Bloomberg, 87 00:04:27,000 --> 00:04:29,719 Speaker 2: and President Zelenski is in South Africa but now says 88 00:04:29,720 --> 00:04:32,440 Speaker 2: he'll cut that visit short and return to Kiev following 89 00:04:32,480 --> 00:04:33,680 Speaker 2: this latest attack. 90 00:04:33,520 --> 00:04:36,120 Speaker 3: And back in this country. Karen Harvard University is indicating 91 00:04:36,120 --> 00:04:38,080 Speaker 3: it wants to move quickly on its legal fight with 92 00:04:38,120 --> 00:04:41,000 Speaker 3: the Trump administration over more than two billion dollars in 93 00:04:41,040 --> 00:04:43,600 Speaker 3: federal funds. The university is telling a federal judge it 94 00:04:43,640 --> 00:04:46,440 Speaker 3: will not ask for a temporary to block the government's 95 00:04:46,440 --> 00:04:49,920 Speaker 3: funding freeze. Instead, its plans to seek a quick judgment 96 00:04:50,000 --> 00:04:52,520 Speaker 3: on its central claim that the administration is threatening its 97 00:04:52,520 --> 00:04:56,080 Speaker 3: independence and free speech. The White House froze two point 98 00:04:56,080 --> 00:04:59,200 Speaker 3: two billion dollars in research grants this month after Harvard 99 00:04:59,240 --> 00:05:02,680 Speaker 3: refused to overhe Hall its governance, hiring and diversity practices. 100 00:05:03,040 --> 00:05:05,320 Speaker 2: Well, Nathan, let's turn back to the markets now and 101 00:05:05,400 --> 00:05:08,000 Speaker 2: check out some stocks that are on the move this morning. 102 00:05:08,120 --> 00:05:11,880 Speaker 2: Shares of IBM, they're down almost eight percent. The company 103 00:05:11,920 --> 00:05:15,480 Speaker 2: said the government's cost cutting actions led Myightinlon must Department 104 00:05:15,520 --> 00:05:18,760 Speaker 2: of Government Efficiency are having an effect. About fifteen of 105 00:05:18,800 --> 00:05:22,240 Speaker 2: IBM's contracts with the federal government have been canceled or paused, 106 00:05:22,560 --> 00:05:25,600 Speaker 2: amounting to about one hundred million dollars in future payments. 107 00:05:25,760 --> 00:05:28,239 Speaker 3: And we're watching shares of Chipotle in the pre market 108 00:05:28,240 --> 00:05:30,480 Speaker 3: as well, Karen. They are down four percent. The fast 109 00:05:30,560 --> 00:05:33,360 Speaker 3: food chain lowered it's full your outlook after quarterly sales 110 00:05:33,360 --> 00:05:35,800 Speaker 3: declined for the first time in almost five years. 111 00:05:36,320 --> 00:05:39,360 Speaker 2: On the flip side, shares of Texas Instruments they are 112 00:05:39,600 --> 00:05:42,239 Speaker 2: up more than five percent. The biggest maker of analog 113 00:05:42,279 --> 00:05:45,360 Speaker 2: semiconductors gave a better than anticipated forecast for the current 114 00:05:45,480 --> 00:05:49,279 Speaker 2: period after demand for industrial and automotive components improved. 115 00:05:49,360 --> 00:05:51,320 Speaker 3: And staying in tech, Karen, After the bell, we hear 116 00:05:51,360 --> 00:05:55,000 Speaker 3: from one of the magnificent seven Google parent alphabet reports, 117 00:05:55,040 --> 00:05:57,400 Speaker 3: and we get a preview from Bloomberg's Tom Busby. 118 00:05:57,839 --> 00:06:00,240 Speaker 10: Key to Alphabets Q one results is growth and it's 119 00:06:00,279 --> 00:06:02,800 Speaker 10: Google Cloud unit, which will show whether the boom and 120 00:06:02,839 --> 00:06:06,520 Speaker 10: AI technology and the company's investments in AI infrastructure are 121 00:06:06,520 --> 00:06:10,479 Speaker 10: paying off. Despite being an also ran to Amazon and Microsoft. 122 00:06:10,760 --> 00:06:13,560 Speaker 10: Investors also looking to see what the company says about 123 00:06:13,560 --> 00:06:17,240 Speaker 10: the mounting regulatory pressures from the EU and the US 124 00:06:17,600 --> 00:06:21,120 Speaker 10: about alleged monopolies in search and ad tech. Bloomberg consensus 125 00:06:21,120 --> 00:06:23,720 Speaker 10: calls for total revenue of just over eighty nine billion 126 00:06:23,800 --> 00:06:26,480 Speaker 10: dollars on earnings per share of two dollars and one cent. 127 00:06:26,760 --> 00:06:31,880 Speaker 10: Tom busby Bloomberg Radio, and. 128 00:06:31,880 --> 00:06:33,160 Speaker 2: It's time now for a look at some of the 129 00:06:33,200 --> 00:06:35,880 Speaker 2: other stories making news in New York and around the world. 130 00:06:35,920 --> 00:06:38,200 Speaker 2: And for that we're joined by Bloomberg's Michael Barr. 131 00:06:38,240 --> 00:06:41,040 Speaker 7: Michael, Good morning, Good morning Karen. Many people lined up 132 00:06:41,080 --> 00:06:44,760 Speaker 7: to see Pope Francis lying in state at Saint Peter's Basilica. 133 00:06:45,040 --> 00:06:47,520 Speaker 7: The Vatican decided to keep the doors open pretty much 134 00:06:47,520 --> 00:06:50,240 Speaker 7: all night. In the first eight and a half hours 135 00:06:50,240 --> 00:06:53,080 Speaker 7: of public viewing, the Vaticans said more than twenty thousand 136 00:06:53,120 --> 00:06:57,320 Speaker 7: people had paid their last respect yesterday. Some had waited six. 137 00:06:57,160 --> 00:06:59,960 Speaker 9: Hours because of the respect that I hug for here, 138 00:07:01,160 --> 00:07:04,039 Speaker 9: the great person he was, It's worth the wait. 139 00:07:04,240 --> 00:07:07,360 Speaker 11: Walking in there, it was so silent, but you could 140 00:07:07,400 --> 00:07:11,120 Speaker 11: feel how much people really cared about him and how 141 00:07:11,240 --> 00:07:12,840 Speaker 11: much love there was for this man. 142 00:07:13,080 --> 00:07:15,800 Speaker 7: Francis, who died Monday after a stroke is lying in 143 00:07:15,840 --> 00:07:20,000 Speaker 7: a simple wooden coffin. Parts of New Jersey remain on fire. 144 00:07:20,480 --> 00:07:23,840 Speaker 7: Wildfire continues to burn in Ocean County. The fire is 145 00:07:23,880 --> 00:07:26,920 Speaker 7: expected to keep growing in size before rain is forecast 146 00:07:26,960 --> 00:07:30,400 Speaker 7: on Friday. It has burned nearly twenty square miles and 147 00:07:30,520 --> 00:07:34,440 Speaker 7: thousands at one point had to be evacuated. State Environmental 148 00:07:34,440 --> 00:07:38,160 Speaker 7: Protection Assistant Commissioner John Cecil says the fire is forty 149 00:07:38,200 --> 00:07:39,080 Speaker 7: percent contained. 150 00:07:39,600 --> 00:07:44,120 Speaker 11: We had one commercial structure that was destroyed. There were 151 00:07:44,120 --> 00:07:47,600 Speaker 11: a couple of smaller cabins that appears that were impacted 152 00:07:47,640 --> 00:07:48,520 Speaker 11: in some vehicles. 153 00:07:48,840 --> 00:07:52,240 Speaker 7: The cause of the fire is still under investigation. Meanwhile, 154 00:07:52,360 --> 00:07:55,440 Speaker 7: there are air quality alerts near the fire that will 155 00:07:55,440 --> 00:07:58,760 Speaker 7: include New York City. Testimony will resume today in Harvey 156 00:07:58,760 --> 00:08:03,080 Speaker 7: Weinstein's retrial on rape and sexual assault charges. Opening statements 157 00:08:03,120 --> 00:08:06,640 Speaker 7: began yesterday, including a newly added third claim from a 158 00:08:06,680 --> 00:08:11,360 Speaker 7: former model, Kaja Sokola. The disgraced movie local is charged 159 00:08:11,440 --> 00:08:14,280 Speaker 7: with forcing oral sex on her in two thousand and six, 160 00:08:14,640 --> 00:08:17,280 Speaker 7: but she also accused him in a civil lawsuit of 161 00:08:17,360 --> 00:08:21,160 Speaker 7: groping her against her will four years earlier, when she 162 00:08:21,280 --> 00:08:24,840 Speaker 7: was sixteen. Weinstein has pleaded not guilty of the charges. 163 00:08:25,160 --> 00:08:28,679 Speaker 7: New York Stop Court throughout Weinstein's twenty twenty conviction after 164 00:08:28,720 --> 00:08:33,280 Speaker 7: the previous trial judge allowed prejudicial testimony about allegations separate 165 00:08:33,280 --> 00:08:36,160 Speaker 7: from the case. Illinois Senator Dick Durbin, who is the 166 00:08:36,200 --> 00:08:38,520 Speaker 7: number two Democrat and the ranking member of the Senate 167 00:08:38,559 --> 00:08:41,720 Speaker 7: Judiciary Committee, will be leaving Congress at the end of 168 00:08:41,720 --> 00:08:44,720 Speaker 7: his term in twenty twenty six. Durbin made the announcement 169 00:08:44,760 --> 00:08:45,920 Speaker 7: in a social media video. 170 00:08:46,280 --> 00:08:49,559 Speaker 4: The people of Illinois have honored me with this responsibility 171 00:08:49,920 --> 00:08:53,200 Speaker 4: longer than anyone elected to the Senate in our state's history. 172 00:08:53,920 --> 00:08:54,840 Speaker 5: I'm truly grateful. 173 00:08:55,320 --> 00:08:58,040 Speaker 7: Global News twenty four hours a day and whenever you 174 00:08:58,120 --> 00:09:00,760 Speaker 7: want it with Bloomberg News Now Michael Barr, and this 175 00:09:01,000 --> 00:09:01,920 Speaker 7: is Bloomberg Karen. 176 00:09:02,080 --> 00:09:08,839 Speaker 2: All right, Michael Barr, thank you. Time now for the 177 00:09:08,840 --> 00:09:14,520 Speaker 2: Bloombergy sports update. Here's John Stanshawer. John, good morning, Good morning, Ken, Karen. 178 00:09:14,559 --> 00:09:16,240 Speaker 2: The Mets are amazing. 179 00:09:16,320 --> 00:09:19,320 Speaker 12: They keep getting great pitching, They keep winning at City Field. 180 00:09:19,360 --> 00:09:21,120 Speaker 12: Even after the Philly scored in the top of the 181 00:09:21,160 --> 00:09:23,480 Speaker 12: tenth inning, Mets came back in the bottom. Another big 182 00:09:23,520 --> 00:09:26,960 Speaker 12: hit for Pete Alonzo is league leading twenty sixth RBI 183 00:09:27,040 --> 00:09:29,440 Speaker 12: tied the game. Alonzo was then at second base. Darling 184 00:09:29,559 --> 00:09:32,240 Speaker 12: Marte hasn't done much this season, was at the plate 185 00:09:32,280 --> 00:09:33,560 Speaker 12: with two outs. 186 00:09:33,280 --> 00:09:34,960 Speaker 7: And Martin Bucks wanted. 187 00:09:34,760 --> 00:09:42,880 Speaker 11: The center field comes on, so Stevens's to plates. 188 00:09:42,960 --> 00:09:46,280 Speaker 5: Seventh straight for New York the hell. 189 00:09:46,200 --> 00:09:47,200 Speaker 7: Yes and why the call? 190 00:09:47,200 --> 00:09:49,440 Speaker 12: The Mets won four to three to complete the second 191 00:09:49,480 --> 00:09:52,559 Speaker 12: best home stand in team history. They won seven and zero, 192 00:09:52,559 --> 00:09:55,760 Speaker 12: and in eighteen and seven, the Mets have MLB's best record. 193 00:09:55,760 --> 00:09:58,280 Speaker 12: The Yankees avoided getting swept in a three game series 194 00:09:58,320 --> 00:10:01,760 Speaker 12: in Cleveland that still hasn't happens since nineteen seventy Yanks 195 00:10:01,840 --> 00:10:04,600 Speaker 12: one to five to one behind Carlos Rodon, who went seventies. 196 00:10:04,640 --> 00:10:06,360 Speaker 12: Both the Mets and the Yanks today have their first 197 00:10:06,440 --> 00:10:09,040 Speaker 12: day off in two weeks at Fenway. Seattleby at the 198 00:10:09,080 --> 00:10:11,640 Speaker 12: Red Sox eight to five, and DC Nationals again beat 199 00:10:11,679 --> 00:10:13,880 Speaker 12: the Orioles four to three. Home teams won in the 200 00:10:13,960 --> 00:10:16,760 Speaker 12: NBA playoffs. Celtics played without the injury Jason Tatum, who 201 00:10:16,800 --> 00:10:19,400 Speaker 12: got thirty six points from Jalen Brown one oh nine 202 00:10:19,440 --> 00:10:22,360 Speaker 12: to one hundred over Orlando. Cleveland made twenty two to 203 00:10:22,360 --> 00:10:24,960 Speaker 12: three pointers in a one twenty one, one twelve win 204 00:10:25,000 --> 00:10:27,959 Speaker 12: over Miami both teams up two games to none. Houston 205 00:10:28,000 --> 00:10:30,360 Speaker 12: beat Golden State one O nine ninety four. That series 206 00:10:30,720 --> 00:10:33,360 Speaker 12: tied at one, as are the Knicks and Pistons. With 207 00:10:33,440 --> 00:10:36,520 Speaker 12: Game three tonight in Detroit. The Knicks simply need to 208 00:10:36,600 --> 00:10:39,600 Speaker 12: score more than ninety eight points in the game two loss, 209 00:10:39,840 --> 00:10:42,080 Speaker 12: the fewest points they scored in the game all season. 210 00:10:42,360 --> 00:10:45,079 Speaker 12: The NFL Draft is in Green Bay, Round one tonight, 211 00:10:45,120 --> 00:10:47,880 Speaker 12: with Tennessee expected to kick things off by taking quarterback 212 00:10:47,920 --> 00:10:51,239 Speaker 12: cam Ward. The Giants have the third pick, the Patriots 213 00:10:51,280 --> 00:10:53,840 Speaker 12: the fourth the Jets. The seventh Hall of Famer Steve 214 00:10:53,920 --> 00:10:57,240 Speaker 12: McMichael has passed away. He was sixty seven. He suffered 215 00:10:57,240 --> 00:11:01,000 Speaker 12: from als. McMichael played thirteen season on the defensive wine 216 00:11:01,040 --> 00:11:03,559 Speaker 12: in Chicago. In nineteen eighty five, he was a big 217 00:11:03,600 --> 00:11:06,280 Speaker 12: part of the Bears only Super Bowl winning team. John 218 00:11:06,320 --> 00:11:08,000 Speaker 12: Stanshawerd Bloomberg Sports Care. 219 00:11:08,080 --> 00:11:14,840 Speaker 1: NAKA Coast to Coast on Bloomberg Radio, nationwide on Sirius XM, 220 00:11:14,960 --> 00:11:17,800 Speaker 1: and around the world on Bloomberg dot Com and the 221 00:11:17,840 --> 00:11:20,960 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Business app. This is Bloomberg Daybreak. 222 00:11:21,200 --> 00:11:23,920 Speaker 3: Good morning, I'm Nathan Hager. But back and forth continues 223 00:11:24,000 --> 00:11:27,360 Speaker 3: at the White House over tariffs and trade after slapping 224 00:11:27,440 --> 00:11:30,720 Speaker 3: China with duties totaling one hundred and forty five percent, 225 00:11:31,160 --> 00:11:34,160 Speaker 3: President Trump now says he's looking forward to a deal. 226 00:11:34,520 --> 00:11:35,960 Speaker 5: We're going to have a great deals. 227 00:11:35,960 --> 00:11:37,640 Speaker 4: And by the way, if we don't have a deal 228 00:11:37,679 --> 00:11:40,600 Speaker 4: with a company or a country, we're going to set 229 00:11:40,600 --> 00:11:42,680 Speaker 4: the tariff. We just set the tariff for something that 230 00:11:42,760 --> 00:11:44,320 Speaker 4: we think that will happen. 231 00:11:44,400 --> 00:11:46,400 Speaker 5: I'd say over the next couple of weeks. When you say, 232 00:11:46,440 --> 00:11:48,480 Speaker 5: I think so over the next two three weeks. 233 00:11:48,760 --> 00:11:51,000 Speaker 3: That was the President speaking from the Oval Office. Has 234 00:11:51,040 --> 00:11:53,480 Speaker 3: heard on Bloomberg But this morning, China is saying there 235 00:11:53,480 --> 00:11:55,640 Speaker 3: are no talks on a trade deal and that the 236 00:11:55,720 --> 00:11:59,440 Speaker 3: US should revoke all unilateral tariffs for the very latest 237 00:11:59,440 --> 00:12:02,680 Speaker 3: spear joined Bloomberg News senior editor Bill Ferries and Bill, 238 00:12:02,760 --> 00:12:05,480 Speaker 3: this latest rhetoric out of Beijing is coming after President 239 00:12:05,520 --> 00:12:08,400 Speaker 3: Trump said he planned to be very nice with China. 240 00:12:08,480 --> 00:12:10,800 Speaker 3: Does it seem like the pendulum is swinging when it 241 00:12:10,840 --> 00:12:14,319 Speaker 3: comes to the rhetoric around trade between these two superpowers? 242 00:12:14,320 --> 00:12:16,200 Speaker 3: Good morning, Good morning. 243 00:12:16,760 --> 00:12:19,400 Speaker 11: I think absolutely, it does look like the rhetoric is 244 00:12:19,960 --> 00:12:24,400 Speaker 11: kind of shifting here. President Trump kind I think offering 245 00:12:24,440 --> 00:12:28,640 Speaker 11: a fig leaf here, olive branch to China to try 246 00:12:28,679 --> 00:12:33,680 Speaker 11: to perhaps get negotiations that really haven't begun started here. 247 00:12:33,920 --> 00:12:35,800 Speaker 11: For a while, he was saying he just wanted to 248 00:12:35,840 --> 00:12:38,319 Speaker 11: hear from Xi Jinping and get a call. There's been 249 00:12:38,400 --> 00:12:41,120 Speaker 11: no call. China has kind of stuck to its gun 250 00:12:41,240 --> 00:12:44,600 Speaker 11: so far and is now saying that the US needs 251 00:12:44,640 --> 00:12:49,079 Speaker 11: to dial back all of its unilateral tariffs as basically 252 00:12:49,240 --> 00:12:52,920 Speaker 11: a precursor to getting talks going. And interestingly enough, that 253 00:12:53,040 --> 00:12:56,360 Speaker 11: comes with a lot of Shi Jinping's economic aids actually 254 00:12:56,400 --> 00:12:59,680 Speaker 11: in Washington this week for all of those IMF World 255 00:12:59,760 --> 00:13:01,080 Speaker 11: Bank meetings that are going on. 256 00:13:01,520 --> 00:13:06,200 Speaker 3: How long can China hold out around a deal with 257 00:13:06,640 --> 00:13:11,040 Speaker 3: the US given the economic challenges that the country has 258 00:13:11,040 --> 00:13:14,000 Speaker 3: been facing for really a couple of years now. 259 00:13:15,400 --> 00:13:18,400 Speaker 11: Yeah, they've had their own issues, a real estate crisis, 260 00:13:18,800 --> 00:13:21,840 Speaker 11: kind of a lack of domestic consumption. They seem to 261 00:13:21,880 --> 00:13:25,720 Speaker 11: be willing to let things continue to unfold, and I 262 00:13:25,760 --> 00:13:29,079 Speaker 11: think they're betting that Donald Trump hits his pain point 263 00:13:29,800 --> 00:13:33,560 Speaker 11: before Shi Jinping does. There may be some opportunities for 264 00:13:33,640 --> 00:13:37,960 Speaker 11: lower level staff to engage in some informal talks. I mean, 265 00:13:38,000 --> 00:13:41,440 Speaker 11: there's still time for things to happen in Washington, but 266 00:13:41,520 --> 00:13:43,679 Speaker 11: right now, you know, I think Beijing is trying to 267 00:13:43,679 --> 00:13:46,200 Speaker 11: take a longer view. They do have the ability to 268 00:13:46,320 --> 00:13:50,480 Speaker 11: unleash domestic stimulus to try to kind of overcome some 269 00:13:50,640 --> 00:13:54,280 Speaker 11: of the barriers that are popping up from the lack 270 00:13:54,320 --> 00:13:57,520 Speaker 11: of trade that's taking place. But I think Donald Trump's 271 00:13:57,520 --> 00:14:00,240 Speaker 11: comments also signal, you know, a little bit of light 272 00:14:00,280 --> 00:14:01,840 Speaker 11: at the end of the tunnel, in the sense that 273 00:14:02,080 --> 00:14:04,960 Speaker 11: one hundred and forty five percent tariffs are probably what 274 00:14:05,040 --> 00:14:07,520 Speaker 11: we're not going to be staring at indefinitely. 275 00:14:07,760 --> 00:14:10,439 Speaker 3: Yeah, and while these talks continue, bill or at least 276 00:14:10,480 --> 00:14:13,280 Speaker 3: this rhetoric goes around, we're getting some more insight, aren't 277 00:14:13,320 --> 00:14:17,000 Speaker 3: we into what the president's potential pain point might have 278 00:14:17,040 --> 00:14:19,160 Speaker 3: been that they could have led him to sort of 279 00:14:19,200 --> 00:14:22,520 Speaker 3: dial back this rhetoric around not just China but Fed 280 00:14:22,600 --> 00:14:23,240 Speaker 3: Chair Powell. 281 00:14:24,080 --> 00:14:24,280 Speaker 5: Yeah. 282 00:14:24,320 --> 00:14:26,600 Speaker 11: Absolutely. I mean, you know, the week started with the 283 00:14:26,640 --> 00:14:30,080 Speaker 11: markets again taking a beating over the comments about both 284 00:14:30,120 --> 00:14:34,400 Speaker 11: Powell and the lack of agreement with China and other countries. 285 00:14:34,760 --> 00:14:37,320 Speaker 11: We've seen him dialing back to the rhetoric on both 286 00:14:37,320 --> 00:14:40,560 Speaker 11: of That is interesting. Some of that came after he 287 00:14:40,640 --> 00:14:44,400 Speaker 11: met with the heads of companies like Walmart, Home Depot 288 00:14:45,000 --> 00:14:48,680 Speaker 11: and Target. Obviously, just like bread and butter retailers in 289 00:14:48,720 --> 00:14:51,920 Speaker 11: the American economy who have been warning that the China 290 00:14:52,000 --> 00:14:54,920 Speaker 11: tariffs and really the lack of trade taking place between 291 00:14:54,920 --> 00:14:57,480 Speaker 11: the two countries was going to be a big problem, 292 00:14:57,560 --> 00:15:00,040 Speaker 11: and that potentially you could be in a situation with 293 00:15:00,080 --> 00:15:03,240 Speaker 11: the empty store shelves in a few months after stores 294 00:15:03,280 --> 00:15:06,480 Speaker 11: worked through the work through their inventories. That seems to 295 00:15:06,480 --> 00:15:09,640 Speaker 11: have had an impact. We also think that he's continuing 296 00:15:09,680 --> 00:15:11,560 Speaker 11: to hear from a lot of people on Wall Street, 297 00:15:11,880 --> 00:15:16,680 Speaker 11: channeling perhaps through Scott Bessett, Howard Lutnik, people with really 298 00:15:16,720 --> 00:15:18,560 Speaker 11: strong white or Wall Street ties. 299 00:15:18,880 --> 00:15:21,600 Speaker 3: Just thirty seconds left, Bill, But while the president's diling 300 00:15:21,640 --> 00:15:24,280 Speaker 3: back with China, it's really fascinating to see him sort 301 00:15:24,320 --> 00:15:27,240 Speaker 3: of ramping up the rhetoric and the pressure on Ukraine's 302 00:15:27,280 --> 00:15:30,440 Speaker 3: president as Ukraine continues to come under fire from Russia. 303 00:15:31,240 --> 00:15:35,080 Speaker 11: Yeah, Donald Trump's saying that he thinks Zelenski has been 304 00:15:35,160 --> 00:15:37,520 Speaker 11: a barrier to peace so far. 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