WEBVTT - A Fond Memory: Zach Woods Disobeys Bridger 0:00:08.760 --> 0:00:15.760 Well, I invited you here, thought I made myself perfectly clear. 0:00:17.040 --> 0:00:22.160 When you're a guest to my home, you gotta come 0:00:22.200 --> 0:00:28.880 to me empty. And I said, no, guests, your presences 0:00:29.160 --> 0:00:35.600 presents enough. I already had too much stuff, So how 0:00:35.640 --> 0:00:38.240 did you dare to surbey me? 0:00:49.280 --> 0:00:54.400 Welcome to? I said, no gifts. I'm Bridger Wineker. We're 0:00:54.440 --> 0:00:58.040 in the backyard. What is happening? I've been to Trader 0:00:58.120 --> 0:01:01.320 Joees this morning. I went to three grocery restores. I 0:01:01.360 --> 0:01:05.600 gave myself permission to buy the expensive coffee and that 0:01:05.800 --> 0:01:09.440 it fell apart immediately, and I ended up at Trader Joe's. 0:01:09.640 --> 0:01:13.520 There I had an orange slice from the sample lady. 0:01:14.520 --> 0:01:17.840 I went around the aisle once and she was gone. 0:01:17.920 --> 0:01:23.360 The entire stand was gone. She was gone, completely surreal experience. Rip. 0:01:24.560 --> 0:01:29.000 Let's get into the podcast. Oh, I love today's guest. 0:01:29.040 --> 0:01:32.319 He is just so funny. It's Zach woods Zech. Welcome to. 0:01:32.319 --> 0:01:33.640 I said, no gifts, thank you. 0:01:33.640 --> 0:01:36.360 You feel like that woman was dead or I appeared 0:01:36.400 --> 0:01:39.400 that she was just a hallucination conjured by the bad coffee. 0:01:39.480 --> 0:01:43.280 I hope it's a hallucination, but I think she's been erased. 0:01:44.120 --> 0:01:45.320 She's been disappeared. 0:01:45.640 --> 0:01:48.840 Yeah, unmade. But you know, can I just paint a 0:01:48.840 --> 0:01:52.320 picture for your listeners because you can't hear this through 0:01:52.360 --> 0:01:56.600 the microphone. But Bridger is wearing them very understated and 0:01:56.640 --> 0:02:00.240 beautiful outfit that matches his surroundings perfectly. Where they're this 0:02:00.360 --> 0:02:02.880 kind of like I don't I'm not good at describing colors, 0:02:03.240 --> 0:02:06.560 but it's this kind of like warm magenta shirt and 0:02:06.600 --> 0:02:10.320 then this beautiful green jacket, and then there's these I 0:02:10.360 --> 0:02:12.120 don't know, I guess it's not that rewarding to hear 0:02:12.200 --> 0:02:15.880 someone describe colors over the over the internet, but it's 0:02:16.000 --> 0:02:18.120 very beautiful and I want to appreciate that. 0:02:18.440 --> 0:02:22.160 Yeah, I'm in kind of a brown maroon. And then 0:02:22.400 --> 0:02:24.560 kind of I've thought about the color of this stracket 0:02:24.600 --> 0:02:27.320 before and I thought dark turquoise or is it teal? 0:02:27.680 --> 0:02:30.640 And I kind of landed on pacific. I feel like 0:02:30.680 --> 0:02:35.720 it's the color is pacific. Yeah, because teal? What is teal? 0:02:35.760 --> 0:02:39.400 I always think of a Pontiac grand am when I teal, 0:02:39.480 --> 0:02:41.880 it's like a it's more of a turquoise. 0:02:42.200 --> 0:02:44.519 Yeah, Teal sounds like like the color of a car 0:02:44.560 --> 0:02:47.200 that a father is distant from his children in. Yeah, 0:02:47.720 --> 0:02:51.000 do you feel that you dress in colors that reflect 0:02:51.120 --> 0:02:54.720 your mood or that are aspirational, Like will you dress 0:02:54.720 --> 0:02:56.920 in a better mood than you are in? Or do 0:02:57.000 --> 0:02:58.960 you dress in the mood that you are in? Does 0:02:59.000 --> 0:02:59.480 that make sense? 0:03:00.360 --> 0:03:03.600 That does make sense. If my mood is usually at 0:03:03.600 --> 0:03:06.760 a negative four, to get to a zero with an 0:03:06.800 --> 0:03:11.000 outfit would be incredible. So I guess I uh, it's 0:03:11.080 --> 0:03:13.920 just kind of the four things that are clean in 0:03:13.919 --> 0:03:15.680 my closet and that I haven't worn too recently. I'm 0:03:15.680 --> 0:03:18.720 getting tired of all my clothes. Oh interesting, I mean 0:03:19.600 --> 0:03:23.280 this shirt I've probably owned for fourteen years. Wow, let's wrong. 0:03:23.400 --> 0:03:25.880 Take care of it, I would say somewhat. You know 0:03:26.040 --> 0:03:28.400 Esther Peril. They're like, oh, of course, okay, So I 0:03:28.400 --> 0:03:31.040 have mixed feelings. I think she's brilliant, but I also 0:03:31.160 --> 0:03:34.520 think she's too focused on power. But anyway, but this 0:03:34.560 --> 0:03:37.480 is not a referendum an Esther Perrel. Esther Perrel in 0:03:37.520 --> 0:03:42.480 one of these books, talked about how she talked about 0:03:42.480 --> 0:03:47.720 how people who have affairs aren't having affairs because they're 0:03:47.760 --> 0:03:49.520 sick of their partner. It's that they're sick of the 0:03:49.640 --> 0:03:52.960 version of themselves that they are with their partner. Which 0:03:53.000 --> 0:03:56.640 I thought was interesting. And I don't know when you 0:03:56.640 --> 0:03:58.640 were just saying, like, I'm getting sick of my clothes. 0:03:58.840 --> 0:04:01.520 I feel periodically that I'll have the feeling of like 0:04:01.600 --> 0:04:05.800 wanting to be a different person familiar with and I 0:04:05.840 --> 0:04:08.960 will look to accessories to achieve that transformation. 0:04:09.400 --> 0:04:11.480 And what sort of accessories. 0:04:11.120 --> 0:04:16.040 Candles, scented candles. I'm obsessed with SCENTI candles, different incenses, 0:04:18.000 --> 0:04:21.640 a lot of scent stuff, different throws, quilts. It's a 0:04:21.640 --> 0:04:24.240 lot of kind of like old lady paraphernalia that I'll try. 0:04:24.279 --> 0:04:26.680 I guess that's what I'm trying to transition into. But 0:04:26.800 --> 0:04:30.000 it's such a it's such a slam dungk for capitalism. 0:04:30.080 --> 0:04:33.560 I guess that that that the impulse for personal growth 0:04:34.120 --> 0:04:37.480 immediately off ramps to shopify. 0:04:37.680 --> 0:04:42.960 Yes, so what sort of candles are you getting into? 0:04:43.800 --> 0:04:49.560 I will get DS andderga, I will get oh my god, 0:04:49.800 --> 0:04:52.360 there's this one h perfume. I don't know if you're 0:04:52.360 --> 0:04:55.560 supposed to say perfume A or perfumer. I don't know. 0:04:56.000 --> 0:05:00.400 I'm not French, contrary to popular belief, but U yeah, 0:05:00.440 --> 0:05:03.560 so those I like, I got this incense that smells 0:05:03.600 --> 0:05:06.320 like coffee and chocolate because usually you hear incense and 0:05:06.320 --> 0:05:08.240 you think it smells like a predatory yoga and. 0:05:08.720 --> 0:05:12.240 Of course, of course just a strange perfume smell. 0:05:12.720 --> 0:05:16.960 Yes, yeah, like a kind of peturely with a whiff 0:05:17.000 --> 0:05:21.280 of misogyny in there, and and but but this is 0:05:21.800 --> 0:05:24.719 a coffee one that smells like coffee and chocolate. 0:05:24.760 --> 0:05:27.880 And it's purely chocolate and coffee. Yeah, there's no that's 0:05:27.920 --> 0:05:31.039 not confusing for you. For me, that's setting off a 0:05:31.080 --> 0:05:33.359 lot of hunger bells. That's making me think, why am 0:05:33.400 --> 0:05:35.960 I not eating? Like there's nothing in the oven baking. 0:05:37.640 --> 0:05:40.240 I think I would be baffled. But for you, it works. 0:05:40.400 --> 0:05:42.480 You know, someone told me, like I had a when 0:05:42.520 --> 0:05:44.520 I first got my dog. The trainer who we were 0:05:44.520 --> 0:05:46.919 working with, said, don't get one of those laser pointers 0:05:47.240 --> 0:05:48.760 that you point on the ground and they bat at 0:05:48.839 --> 0:05:51.919 because of exactly what you're describing. It's like this insatiable 0:05:52.400 --> 0:05:54.080 you want to get to the laser, but you can 0:05:54.120 --> 0:05:56.920 never get to the laser if you're the dog. And 0:05:56.960 --> 0:05:58.800 that's basically you're saying. It would be like a laser punter. 0:05:58.800 --> 0:06:00.359 It's like I want to get to that smell, but 0:06:00.400 --> 0:06:03.600 there is no there's no end of the tunnel. There's 0:06:03.800 --> 0:06:08.719 just the constant tease. I think I like enticement maybe 0:06:08.800 --> 0:06:09.960 more than contentment. 0:06:10.040 --> 0:06:12.880 Oh interesting. For you it is the journey, and for 0:06:12.960 --> 0:06:15.440 me it's purely the goal. The goal should be the beginning. 0:06:15.440 --> 0:06:17.320 For me, you want to be sated. I just want 0:06:17.320 --> 0:06:23.719 to be teased into a tizz someone. You know what 0:06:23.760 --> 0:06:25.840 I realized recently. This is gonna make me sound again 0:06:25.920 --> 0:06:28.920 like such an old lady. But I think it's jasmine, 0:06:28.960 --> 0:06:31.760 you know, the smell of jazzure. To me, that is 0:06:31.800 --> 0:06:34.360 like the smell of a crush, where it's like when 0:06:34.360 --> 0:06:36.760 you walk past jasmine, you just want to get closer 0:06:36.800 --> 0:06:39.240 and closer. You want to like get into the center 0:06:39.360 --> 0:06:41.279 of the thing, but you can't. Like what are you 0:06:41.240 --> 0:06:42.960 gonna do, like smash your head into. 0:06:42.800 --> 0:06:45.280 The bush, Like it won't work, and anyway, even if 0:06:45.279 --> 0:06:46.880 you did it, you wouldn't get you there. And that 0:06:46.880 --> 0:06:49.200 feeling of like it's like a I don't know anything 0:06:49.240 --> 0:06:51.600 about math, but I remember from like seventh grade asimp 0:06:51.640 --> 0:06:53.479 toads or whatever, where it's like the line is always 0:06:53.520 --> 0:06:56.520 getting closer and closer and closer. I never can right, 0:06:56.800 --> 0:06:59.799 And I think that's like a crush. That's my coffee, inceign. 0:07:00.480 --> 0:07:05.320 That's the smell of jasmine. It's the unreal unrealizable. 0:07:05.160 --> 0:07:08.960 There right, you just need the carrot dangling non stop, yes, 0:07:09.560 --> 0:07:11.760 just never able to quite munch on it. 0:07:11.920 --> 0:07:12.480 Let's hope. 0:07:14.120 --> 0:07:18.400 I need a hope and I need results. I just 0:07:18.480 --> 0:07:21.360 need a result at the moment I begin or I'm 0:07:21.520 --> 0:07:24.120 giving up. We should go into business together. We cover 0:07:24.160 --> 0:07:27.560 each other's fine combination. Right, let's get us on shark tank. Well, 0:07:27.640 --> 0:07:29.800 we both do our own thing. I think would be 0:07:29.880 --> 0:07:30.760 very successful. 0:07:30.800 --> 0:07:31.600 I think we would do. 0:07:32.160 --> 0:07:34.520 Now, do you like a treat? I mean, like, if 0:07:34.560 --> 0:07:37.120 you were to have a chocolate, would you be happy? 0:07:37.280 --> 0:07:38.840 Or is it you're just fine with the smell? 0:07:39.520 --> 0:07:39.680 No? 0:07:39.720 --> 0:07:42.840 I like it very much. And I used to mainline, 0:07:43.200 --> 0:07:45.920 just go straight up garbage. I used to go to 0:07:46.400 --> 0:07:48.720 I lived in a hell's kitchen, and I would go 0:07:48.760 --> 0:07:50.520 to the deli at two in the morning and I 0:07:50.520 --> 0:07:53.120 would get like those tiny little apple pies wrapped in 0:07:53.160 --> 0:07:53.840 wax paper. 0:07:54.240 --> 0:07:56.720 Oh like the uh what are those called? 0:07:57.600 --> 0:07:58.360 Little something? 0:07:58.440 --> 0:08:00.760 Yeah? Like a little friendly or something. 0:08:00.680 --> 0:08:05.480 Yeah, little friendlies, little compulsions. And I would eat those 0:08:05.520 --> 0:08:06.840 and then I would but I would also order a 0:08:06.920 --> 0:08:11.520 cheese sandwich and sometimes like a sleeve of Pebveriage Farm 0:08:11.760 --> 0:08:14.680 cookies and then what was left of the cheese sandwich 0:08:14.720 --> 0:08:16.880 I would put on top the cheese I would put 0:08:16.920 --> 0:08:20.160 on the pie like some sort of like. 0:08:20.400 --> 0:08:23.800 This is very taxi driver, your simple shepherd and taxi 0:08:23.920 --> 0:08:26.480 driver with the cheddar on the apple pie. 0:08:28.080 --> 0:08:30.280 You calling me simple shepherd and taxi driver is the 0:08:30.320 --> 0:08:31.760 nicest thing anyone's ever said to me. 0:08:32.480 --> 0:08:34.559 That's what That's what I want from someone. I want 0:08:34.559 --> 0:08:36.360 someone to tell me that, and I'm not getting it. 0:08:37.000 --> 0:08:40.640 Bridger me and the your simple. 0:08:42.120 --> 0:08:45.720 Results just as for it, and you got the result 0:08:46.480 --> 0:08:50.199 I mean me asking for is more, Travis Bickle in 0:08:50.240 --> 0:08:54.880 the situation, the desperation, the the need, and uh you 0:08:54.920 --> 0:08:58.040 have this cool You're putting the cheese sandwich over the 0:08:58.080 --> 0:09:01.280 top of a disgusting little apple pie. Good for you. 0:09:01.920 --> 0:09:05.240 Do you feel like you have an inner Travis Bickle? 0:09:05.320 --> 0:09:07.920 Do you feel like there's that like, under the right 0:09:08.000 --> 0:09:12.040 social conditions, you could lose your shit, shave yourself into 0:09:12.040 --> 0:09:14.840 a mohawk, start like practicing with guns in the mirror, 0:09:14.920 --> 0:09:17.120 Like do you think there's a version of you that 0:09:17.360 --> 0:09:17.839 I want to. 0:09:17.800 --> 0:09:22.240 Believe that I have that the possibility of me becoming 0:09:22.280 --> 0:09:26.440 a completely dangerous person. Even a sliver of that would 0:09:26.480 --> 0:09:28.920 be so exciting. I think I have an maybe an 0:09:28.960 --> 0:09:31.959 inner king of comedy where I could kidnap and then, 0:09:32.120 --> 0:09:34.560 you know, try to make a hero my own. 0:09:34.960 --> 0:09:35.920 Who would you kidnap? 0:09:36.040 --> 0:09:38.880 Oh, that's a great question. Who let me think? 0:09:39.120 --> 0:09:39.520 It's hard? 0:09:39.600 --> 0:09:42.679 Right? Yeah? And it feels dangerous. 0:09:42.720 --> 0:09:45.480 I know that you're committing to it. It's it's definitely 0:09:45.600 --> 0:09:48.320 undermining the result. In other words, if you if you 0:09:48.679 --> 0:09:51.160 articulate your desire, you're warning them. 0:09:51.160 --> 0:09:54.200 You're absolutely warning them. And then I mean, but then 0:09:54.200 --> 0:09:56.800 it becomes more of a challenge because now I have 0:09:56.880 --> 0:10:00.480 to They've really told their security this is person to 0:10:00.480 --> 0:10:01.160 watch out for. 0:10:02.360 --> 0:10:04.320 Someone told me this thing, and I have no idea 0:10:04.360 --> 0:10:06.480 if it's true, but that like some guy was stalking 0:10:06.520 --> 0:10:11.760 Steven Spielberg because he thought that Steven Spielberg wanted him 0:10:12.400 --> 0:10:15.199 to make love to him, and they like found him 0:10:15.200 --> 0:10:18.000 with like Jurassic Park shit in his car. And I 0:10:18.000 --> 0:10:19.960 don't know if that's true or not, but I remember 0:10:19.960 --> 0:10:24.000 thinking how utterly terrifying that would be so scary to 0:10:24.040 --> 0:10:26.080 not just have his stocker bit to stalker who thinks 0:10:26.559 --> 0:10:31.800 that you're waiting for them eagerly. Just seems like truly harrowing. 0:10:32.040 --> 0:10:35.400 That reminds me of did you ever hear about David 0:10:35.440 --> 0:10:38.760 Letterman's stalker who was saying that she claimed David Letterman 0:10:38.840 --> 0:10:39.600 was stalking her? 0:10:40.160 --> 0:10:41.559 Oh wow, real? 0:10:41.760 --> 0:10:46.840 I mean a great, nice reverse stalking attempt, which nobody 0:10:46.920 --> 0:10:47.640 saw that coming. 0:10:47.840 --> 0:10:49.200 I'm not stalking you. You're stalking me. 0:10:49.600 --> 0:10:52.280 Stop stalking me. Stop taking me to court. 0:10:53.240 --> 0:10:56.760 Yeah, you're obsessed with me. You won't stop calling the 0:10:56.920 --> 0:10:57.920 police on me. 0:11:00.480 --> 0:11:03.120 Interesting, it's a very smart move. It's shrewd. 0:11:03.440 --> 0:11:06.280 It's really I'm trying to think who I would want. Okay, 0:11:06.320 --> 0:11:09.360 let's do it this way. You can kidnap someone. They're 0:11:09.440 --> 0:11:12.040 dead already. I'm not saying you're gonna kill some but 0:11:12.080 --> 0:11:14.120 I'm saying, so you're safe from incriminating. 0:11:14.440 --> 0:11:17.240 Right, So now a grave robber, So who would you 0:11:17.360 --> 0:11:18.600 they're still a grave would you rob? 0:11:18.760 --> 0:11:20.880 They're in exchange for the life of the woman who 0:11:20.920 --> 0:11:23.320 gave you the orange slice, they are re animated and 0:11:23.400 --> 0:11:25.680 give it directly into your possession. 0:11:25.360 --> 0:11:28.400 Right right? Okay, somebody dead who I would want to 0:11:28.480 --> 0:11:29.800 kidnap and keep in my home. 0:11:30.080 --> 0:11:31.679 That's what we're looking Yes, and I'll try to think 0:11:31.679 --> 0:11:32.120 about it too. 0:11:32.200 --> 0:11:37.440 Okay, I'm going to say, do you know who? Oh? 0:11:38.160 --> 0:11:40.319 I mean, the real problem here is I don't know 0:11:40.360 --> 0:11:44.040 any celebrity notes you can describe, just like I'm so 0:11:44.120 --> 0:11:45.440 bad celebrities me too. 0:11:45.600 --> 0:11:46.280 That's a good thing. 0:11:46.400 --> 0:11:48.720 I panic. I mean, there's a full segment of this 0:11:48.760 --> 0:11:50.800 podcast we do sometimes with celebrities. I'm like, I don't 0:11:50.840 --> 0:11:52.080 know who any of these people are. 0:11:53.000 --> 0:11:55.320 It's a mitzvah, It's a mitzvah. 0:11:56.679 --> 0:12:00.280 Who would you take that as? I'm like, who has died? 0:12:01.040 --> 0:12:03.760 Who are some people who have died in the last 0:12:03.880 --> 0:12:04.680 twenty years? 0:12:04.920 --> 0:12:07.160 David Bowie, David Bowie. 0:12:06.840 --> 0:12:09.880 Prince, But these are so obvious. I would, of course, 0:12:09.880 --> 0:12:11.559 I'd love to have David Bowie around the house. 0:12:11.679 --> 0:12:12.600 Of course, who wouldn't. 0:12:12.640 --> 0:12:15.240 I would take Prince at any point. I mean, the 0:12:15.280 --> 0:12:17.240 things you would get into with Prince, I mean, it 0:12:17.240 --> 0:12:19.959 would be it every day would be a sexual adventure. 0:12:21.160 --> 0:12:25.000 This is true heresy. And I'm ashamed of myself, and 0:12:25.080 --> 0:12:32.280 I don't think I'm right. I don't understand Prince. Oh, okay, well, 0:12:32.360 --> 0:12:35.240 I'm not proud of Zach, but it's true. 0:12:35.760 --> 0:12:37.160 How much of Prince have you listened? 0:12:37.200 --> 0:12:41.559 To I not a ton, okay, but partly because when 0:12:41.600 --> 0:12:46.200 I have I have a frightening feeling of incomprehension. 0:12:46.360 --> 0:12:49.280 Well there's I mean, first of all, there is so much. 0:12:49.800 --> 0:12:52.920 I mean, he was producing music from the seventies until 0:12:53.640 --> 0:12:56.880 eight years ago, and once we get into the nineties 0:12:56.920 --> 0:12:59.360 and thousands, it gets a lot spottier. So there's some 0:12:59.600 --> 0:13:02.400 I think it's hard. It's hard to penetrate his catalog. 0:13:03.080 --> 0:13:04.760 But what what sort of music do you listen to? 0:13:04.880 --> 0:13:07.319 I like that song he did about one two Princes 0:13:07.360 --> 0:13:09.840 will destroy You, That's what I said. 0:13:09.920 --> 0:13:10.480 I don't know this. 0:13:10.520 --> 0:13:12.640 It's a sort of biographical. I think, what is that. 0:13:14.720 --> 0:13:14.960 About? 0:13:14.960 --> 0:13:16.839 It's about a rich guy and then there's a poor 0:13:16.880 --> 0:13:18.920 guy and they're both fighting for the love of the 0:13:18.960 --> 0:13:19.520 same woman. 0:13:20.080 --> 0:13:23.840 Wait, what is I have no idea. What talk about one? 0:13:23.920 --> 0:13:26.000 Two Princes will destroy You? 0:13:26.160 --> 0:13:28.520 He's singing the spin Doctors, and I was thinking about 0:13:28.520 --> 0:13:29.720 the spin Doctors this morning. 0:13:29.800 --> 0:13:31.679 But I assume that that was gooes written by Prince. 0:13:32.120 --> 0:13:34.400 Of course, it's about you know, he was kind of 0:13:34.400 --> 0:13:36.839 a ghostwriter. It was that true. Yeah, he wrote a 0:13:36.880 --> 0:13:38.560 lot of songs that he would just give to friends 0:13:39.000 --> 0:13:42.040 under a different like a name like Christopher Smith or something. 0:13:41.840 --> 0:13:43.000 Under the name Paul Simon. 0:13:44.120 --> 0:13:46.280 But he wrote all Graceland. 0:13:47.400 --> 0:13:52.520 Amazing. I uh, I remember hearing that Bruce Springsteen wrote 0:13:52.679 --> 0:13:54.920 Hungry Heart for the Ramones, which I don't know if 0:13:54.920 --> 0:13:55.320 that's true. 0:13:55.320 --> 0:13:57.720 I leave that for one second. I like to tell 0:13:57.840 --> 0:14:00.679 why do you know what you need to do? The 0:14:00.760 --> 0:14:03.640 album that got me into Prince was Dirty Mind. It's 0:14:03.679 --> 0:14:07.560 like it's a little bit more, it's more bare bones, 0:14:07.800 --> 0:14:11.120 sounds a bit fresh. It's to be honest, sounds really fresh. 0:14:11.160 --> 0:14:15.600 It's Prince getting fresh for once in his life. The 0:14:15.600 --> 0:14:18.280 song when You Were Mine is one of the all 0:14:18.280 --> 0:14:20.800 time great songs. Listen to that one. That's the one 0:14:20.800 --> 0:14:22.600 that'll get you into it. It'll break your heart. 0:14:23.800 --> 0:14:26.040 It sounds like he might have taken that from Bruno Mars. 0:14:26.080 --> 0:14:30.239 I should have brought you followers. So if he's plagiarizing 0:14:30.240 --> 0:14:31.920 Bruno Mars, I don't want to support that. 0:14:32.080 --> 0:14:36.520 Well who I mean the significance of Bruno Mars on music. 0:14:36.680 --> 0:14:39.600 I mean, the impact he's had on artists from in 0:14:39.720 --> 0:14:41.320 every genre cannot. 0:14:41.040 --> 0:14:45.200 Be the Miles Davis of music. I've always said that about. 0:14:46.480 --> 0:14:49.440 I've always you know, Bruno Mars from I mean I 0:14:49.440 --> 0:14:53.000 think he's impacted me in other ways too, just in 0:14:53.080 --> 0:14:53.800 daily life. 0:14:54.360 --> 0:14:58.280 Spiritually, he's a very I mean, there are people who 0:14:58.920 --> 0:15:02.480 seem and I'm I'm sure this isn't true, because he's 0:15:02.520 --> 0:15:04.800 a person just like everyone else. There are people who 0:15:04.840 --> 0:15:10.400 seem so like luminously untroubled in their public persona, where 0:15:10.440 --> 0:15:17.640 they just seem healthy, happy together, you know, and and 0:15:17.840 --> 0:15:22.160 they don't wreak of that kind of sociopathic ambition even 0:15:22.200 --> 0:15:26.520 though they've somehow created empires for themselves, right. And I 0:15:26.560 --> 0:15:28.720 guess I think I'm not that familiar with Bruno Mars, 0:15:28.760 --> 0:15:31.200 but in my head he sort of falls into that category. 0:15:31.320 --> 0:15:33.960 I've never heard a Bruno Mars song from beginning to end, 0:15:34.760 --> 0:15:35.680 not once. 0:15:35.960 --> 0:15:37.760 Because you were crying so hard by the middle. 0:15:38.800 --> 0:15:43.200 I'm sobbing him on the floor. Turn off. I can't 0:15:43.240 --> 0:15:46.680 listen to another minute of what I should have brought you, 0:15:46.760 --> 0:15:48.320 I should have bought you, I should have bought you 0:15:48.320 --> 0:15:53.680 flowers or brought brought well. I mean it either way works. 0:15:53.680 --> 0:15:55.479 It's a really annoying one. 0:15:56.720 --> 0:15:59.040 I think that I literally only know that one Bruno 0:15:59.120 --> 0:16:00.320 Mars song at least. 0:16:00.320 --> 0:16:02.320 What's the really annoying one? 0:16:02.560 --> 0:16:03.840 Oh my gosh, A lot. 0:16:05.440 --> 0:16:09.120 Just the way you are. Oh, there's one that's more 0:16:09.120 --> 0:16:11.560 of a vagacy number, kind. 0:16:11.360 --> 0:16:14.880 Of a locked out of heaven ay magic. 0:16:15.000 --> 0:16:16.840 I actually do like, how have we not gotten to 0:16:16.920 --> 0:16:19.520 the one I know? Ooh now? 0:16:19.560 --> 0:16:20.560 And I'm just looking at all these. 0:16:20.480 --> 0:16:24.240 Other uptown funk. Uptown Funk Funk is the one that 0:16:24.280 --> 0:16:27.600 I'm thinking about. An uptown funk, of course, is the 0:16:27.600 --> 0:16:32.000 one that's impacted generations. Not many people bought the single, 0:16:32.120 --> 0:16:34.080 but the ones that did every What they say is 0:16:34.080 --> 0:16:39.440 everyone who bought that single became a band that influential. 0:16:39.600 --> 0:16:45.920 I believe that they said that about Bruno Mars. 0:16:44.880 --> 0:16:48.880 Now, okay, so David Bowie Prince, those are people who 0:16:48.920 --> 0:16:52.840 but like, in terms of deep cuts, reanimated celebrities that 0:16:52.840 --> 0:16:54.040 you would like to possess. 0:16:54.320 --> 0:16:57.760 Re animated celebrities, Okay, I have to think of one 0:16:57.880 --> 0:17:00.960 celebrity there simply must be Actually I can think of. 0:17:01.400 --> 0:17:03.480 I put a celebrity that is alive that I wouldn't 0:17:03.480 --> 0:17:06.560 mind bringing home. Dian Waste. 0:17:06.720 --> 0:17:08.879 Oh wow, what a good choice. 0:17:08.960 --> 0:17:10.800 I would love to have her around the house. 0:17:11.160 --> 0:17:14.000 Yes, because I feel that like she would be a 0:17:14.040 --> 0:17:18.600 good barrier between despair and arrogance. In other words, if 0:17:18.600 --> 0:17:21.200 you got too low, Diane, Weast would intervene. And if 0:17:21.200 --> 0:17:23.879 you got too high, Diane, she would cut you down, 0:17:24.000 --> 0:17:25.720 but not in a way like she would be like 0:17:25.760 --> 0:17:30.000 a trimming she'd trim your tree. She wouldn't lumberjack, you know, 0:17:30.200 --> 0:17:30.680 she wouldn't. 0:17:31.000 --> 0:17:33.080 Yeah, it would feel healthy, and it'd be like, Okay, 0:17:33.080 --> 0:17:35.919 I'm going to I'm going to be the same person, 0:17:35.960 --> 0:17:38.960 but better. Right, she's at an age that you could 0:17:38.960 --> 0:17:41.960 probably you know, help her out. You would feel like 0:17:41.960 --> 0:17:42.880 you were helping each other. 0:17:43.640 --> 0:17:45.720 I once when I first I'm bringing my dog up 0:17:45.760 --> 0:17:48.280 a lot. When I first got my dog, I was 0:17:48.280 --> 0:17:52.840 talking to my therapist about it, about getting him my dog, 0:17:53.240 --> 0:17:55.159 and I said, well, you know, they want us to 0:17:55.200 --> 0:17:57.600 foster him first, but who are we kidding? But I 0:17:57.640 --> 0:17:59.840 don't know, you know, it's like I'm going to keep him. 0:17:59.840 --> 0:18:01.439 There no way I'm going to give him back, but 0:18:01.520 --> 0:18:04.040 they want us to foster. And she looked at me 0:18:04.080 --> 0:18:07.760 in the eyes and she went, everything's a foster. And 0:18:07.840 --> 0:18:11.119 I was like, wow, that's right, Like you don't get 0:18:11.160 --> 0:18:14.680 to keep playing. And I feel like that's like something 0:18:14.680 --> 0:18:16.960 I can easily imagine coming out of Diane West's mouth. 0:18:17.840 --> 0:18:20.399 You know what I meant kind of a whisper. 0:18:20.560 --> 0:18:23.680 Yeah, and everything's a foster. Everything's a foster. 0:18:23.960 --> 0:18:24.920 I love her voice. 0:18:25.000 --> 0:18:28.040 She's beautiful in every way that a person can be beautiful. 0:18:28.359 --> 0:18:32.200 Did we ever get to you with a celebrity? 0:18:34.400 --> 0:18:36.960 Weirdly, the first one that came to my head and 0:18:37.000 --> 0:18:39.280 I wouldn't want to possess her, but I would want 0:18:39.320 --> 0:18:41.199 her company is Olympia Ducacus. 0:18:41.480 --> 0:18:44.399 Oh fantastic, right, excellent, joy. 0:18:44.480 --> 0:18:47.320 Yeah. I just rewatched Moonstruck and I was like, that 0:18:47.520 --> 0:18:53.720 woman is incredible, irresistible. So that's one. I think another 0:18:53.800 --> 0:19:00.000 one would be I'm trying to think, oh fuck, oh fuck, 0:19:00.280 --> 0:19:01.080 oh fuck. 0:19:01.840 --> 0:19:06.040 It's hard. Anytime you're asked to recall information, the brain 0:19:06.080 --> 0:19:09.280 shuts down. I don't know why that is. Jimmy Carter, 0:19:09.480 --> 0:19:12.840 Jimmy Carter, I love Jimmy Carter, Sweet Jimmy. 0:19:12.520 --> 0:19:13.600 Carter, good man. 0:19:15.080 --> 0:19:18.359 Wow. Well, as much as I mean, we're clearly making 0:19:18.440 --> 0:19:21.840 excellent conversation out of just trying to think of a person. 0:19:22.800 --> 0:19:25.560 You and I can't recall a person. I mean, I'm 0:19:26.160 --> 0:19:29.560 me especially, It's just I barely know the two names 0:19:29.560 --> 0:19:31.639 of the people present with me right now. I'm just 0:19:31.800 --> 0:19:35.000 blanking on everything. So we're gonna move on from the 0:19:35.040 --> 0:19:36.960 subject because there's something more important I need to talk 0:19:37.000 --> 0:19:40.399 to you about. Jeez, I look, I was happy to 0:19:40.440 --> 0:19:42.720 have you on the podcast. Yeah, I was excited. I'll 0:19:42.720 --> 0:19:46.600 say I was excited. Zac's wonderful. There's no chance anything 0:19:46.680 --> 0:19:51.040 could possibly go wrong. And so you know, I've been 0:19:51.040 --> 0:19:54.040 doing this podcast for a while. Most episodes go okay. 0:19:54.880 --> 0:19:59.120 So I was a little surprised the podcast is called 0:19:59.119 --> 0:20:02.040 I said, no gifts, right, it's a little I don't 0:20:02.119 --> 0:20:03.399 I don't even know that. I'd say I was a 0:20:03.440 --> 0:20:05.399 little surprised. I would say I was floored. I was 0:20:05.440 --> 0:20:10.760 shocked when you came trotting into my backyard holding this gorgeous, 0:20:11.680 --> 0:20:16.679 shimmering pink bag, which and I don't want to I 0:20:16.680 --> 0:20:20.040 don't want to assume, but I'm going to what it's 0:20:20.040 --> 0:20:20.520 a gift for. 0:20:20.520 --> 0:20:25.560 Me, that's right. Thank you for describing my walk as 0:20:25.560 --> 0:20:28.600 a trot. Very few people understand my sort of a 0:20:28.720 --> 0:20:31.639 questrian elegance and the way that you obviously do. Thank you. 0:20:31.720 --> 0:20:34.440 I think of myself as a dressage horse first and foremost, 0:20:35.000 --> 0:20:40.000 and then secondly, I can't help it. I want to 0:20:40.160 --> 0:20:44.040 ruffle people's hair. I want to just I don't want 0:20:44.080 --> 0:20:47.479 to violate their boundaries, but I want to, you know, 0:20:47.800 --> 0:20:51.960