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Speaker 1: Celebrity Hanie another failed audition dout.

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Speaker 2: I'll get a callback for that episode of Friends. Matthew

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Speaker 2: Perry's so sexy?

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Speaker 3: Sorry? What was that? Lauren Graham, my housemaid in Los

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Speaker 3: Angeles in nineteen eighty four. I'm just trying to fax

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Speaker 3: my headshot over to CIA.

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Speaker 2: Oh that thing imaging? Literally? What will they come up

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Speaker 2: with next? I just got a lote from coffee bean

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Speaker 2: and tea.

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Speaker 4: Leave.

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Speaker 3: Oh, Lauren, I could really use a latte right now.

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Speaker 3: I'm exhausted from staying up all night learning lines to

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Speaker 3: Jurassic Park, which I didn't get.

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Speaker 2: Well, probably because you haven't eaten, because you're some sexier

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Speaker 2: than I am.

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Speaker 3: Oh my god, stop, Lauren. I'm only a little bit

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Speaker 3: thinner than you. That doesn't mean I'm going to have

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Speaker 3: a more successful career overall.

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Speaker 2: Speaking of I'm craving a subway submarine sandwich?

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Speaker 3: Is that so bad? Oh? You're naughty? Who gave you permission? Lauren?

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Speaker 2: Uh? Maybe my new wonderbras?

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Speaker 3: Why is it that we as women in Hollywood have

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Speaker 3: to stuff our bras with what is it? Kleenex chicken cutlets?

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Speaker 2: I mean, come on, no, seriously, I would like to

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Speaker 2: put Danny DeVito in one of my bras.

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Speaker 3: Meanwhile, Danny DeVito walks right onto the Paramount lot and

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Speaker 3: gets cast in the latest sitcom at NBC.

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Speaker 2: They don't say, hey, Danny DeVito, why don't you go

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Speaker 2: on the New Zone diet.

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Speaker 3: The double standard really sucks for us badass, cool twenty

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Speaker 3: six year old chicas in La.

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Speaker 2: But at least we have each other.

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Speaker 3: Okay, So what do you want to get at subway

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Speaker 3: to share?

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Speaker 2: Well? I was thinking a super low fat option. Maybe

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Speaker 2: we get there two to salad and we act like

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Speaker 2: little kitty cats.

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Speaker 3: Meow.

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Speaker 4: Who's that knocking at the door.

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Speaker 3: It's all your friends, you filthy horse. Your husband's gone,

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Speaker 3: and we've got books and a bottle of wine to kill.

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Speaker 4: It's Hollywood, it's books, it's gossip. I'm sure it's memoir.

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Speaker 3: It's Martini's.

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Speaker 4: Celebrity poof Club.

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Speaker 2: Read it while it's hot.

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Speaker 4: Celebrity poof Club, tell your secrets. We won't talk celebrity books.

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Speaker 2: No boys are loud.

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Speaker 4: Celebrity book say it loud and poud. Celebrity book club.

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Speaker 3: Buzz me in.

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Speaker 2: I brought the queer vow. Hey, hey friend, I'm in

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Speaker 2: need of so much coffee.

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Speaker 3: Today Java here. Oh my god, I am so exhausted

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Speaker 3: from my job, life, workman, my daughter, you name it.

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Speaker 3: No Exeros had to mention my mother in law.

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Speaker 2: If one more thing comes on my desk, I'm going

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Speaker 2: to throw it out. Move to Maui.

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Speaker 3: Now that's a dream.

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Speaker 2: I would killed go to Hawaii.

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Speaker 3: I love that with my girlfriends. What's better. But unfortunately

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Speaker 3: that's not always how life works.

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Speaker 2: No, sometimes you have to get on the struggle bus

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Speaker 2: and start a podcast in New York City where the

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Speaker 2: city tests your limits.

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Speaker 3: Marvin's so basic because we're reading the book made by

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Speaker 3: one of the basic queens of our generation.

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Speaker 2: Kind of like she's really not our She's like the

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Speaker 2: most iconically gen X person yea, even though she like

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Speaker 2: invented millennial culture in this way.

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Speaker 3: So true because she invented being like that was weird,

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Speaker 3: Like she invented like dirt face. Yeah, just being like

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Speaker 3: self aware and like calling yourself out for just like

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Speaker 3: I'm sorry that I want to stay in with a

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Speaker 3: huge monk of coffee in a blanket and seven cats

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Speaker 3: and watch movies with my daughter.

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Speaker 2: Yeah I'm weird and being like oh great, it's my

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Speaker 2: ex Blorgan medorph macugly Boots just called she's so.

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Speaker 3: Boots, and yet she's technically gen x because you think

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Speaker 3: of jen X, you think like more Alt, which she's never.

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Speaker 2: But I guess like elders have to create if.

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Speaker 3: We have seen taller than it is because we stood

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Speaker 3: on the shoulders of giants.

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Speaker 2: Thank you for saying that. Okay, literally like the inventor

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Speaker 2: of pumpkin spice culture.

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Speaker 3: Star of Gilmore Girls, which ran for seven seasons on.

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Speaker 2: My God, oh close, but like actually like w B

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Speaker 3: Anyway we're talking about you know her is Laura like Gilmore.

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Speaker 2: Of course you also know hers like reprising Laura like

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Speaker 3: Yeah, which she talks a lot about.

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Speaker 2: And we'll get into we'll get pood Okay, Laura and

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Speaker 3: Her fourth book. Have I told you this already? Stories?

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Speaker 3: I don't want to forget to remember New.

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Speaker 2: York Times bestselling author of Talking as Fast as I Can.

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Speaker 3: Which is of course a reference to the fact that

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Speaker 3: they talk fast on Gilmore Girls, which is kind of

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and I was about to share with you and

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Speaker 2: our producer, but I was like, I'll say this for

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Speaker 2: this is when my father started binging Gilmore Girls late

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Speaker 2: in his life, which is a really normal activity to

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Speaker 2: do for a strong heterosexual Italian American man.

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Speaker 3: When you talk to your doctor and your lawyer about

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Speaker 3: end of life care, make sure to list the shows

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Speaker 3: that you want to binge that you haven't yet.

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Speaker 2: And his first observation was like, oh my god, they

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Speaker 2: as fast as you and Ngia. And I feel like

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Speaker 2: he felt that connection because he was like, they talk

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Speaker 2: so fast, and he was always yelling at us, being

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Speaker 2: like stop talking so loud, right, stop talking so fast. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: So it was like, oh, like you're like girls talking

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Speaker 2: yourselves like talking and then like compete it against a

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Speaker 2: Glomar girls scene.

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Speaker 3: Oh wow, world records.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, who talks fast?

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Speaker 3: I mean people say that we talk fast, people say

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Speaker 2: So who's the Laura LII? Who's the Rory.

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Speaker 3: Oh in our relationship. Yeah, oh, that kind of is interesting.

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Speaker 3: I feel like you think you're the Laura Li I.

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Speaker 2: Mean guilty because I love like coffee and like I

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Speaker 3: Yes, you famously work at a hotel and you love

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Speaker 2: But it's like this, you're so bb the in an

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I guess, And you're being just like stay in

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Speaker 2: I'm like stopping her homework, isn't it movie night? Popcorn?

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Speaker 3: Okay? But at the same time, I feel like I'm

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Speaker 3: kind of LAURALI because I'm being like, wait a minute,

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Speaker 3: like come over watch movies, and I'm like wanting to

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Speaker 3: be naughty, and you're being like mom, like I actually

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Speaker 3: do you want to like get this grand proposal done?

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Speaker 3: And I'm being a little bit more like let's play hooky.

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Speaker 4: No.

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Speaker 2: It is so true because I think I am being

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Speaker 2: more coffee. But I feel like you're the one that's

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Speaker 2: like Lily, you can sleep when you're dead, we're watching movies,

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Speaker 2: we're going out, like what is this? And you're also

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Speaker 2: sharpening my pencils, being like right, oh, I gotta get fast.

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Speaker 3: Down right, You're being like so neurotic daughter applying for

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Speaker 3: wrap this up, bitch, pop four o'clock.

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Speaker 2: Let's go. You're also like way more lawrelie because you're like,

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Speaker 2: do you have a flirty relationship with like a briistad honeymoon?

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Speaker 3: The way I'm not flirting with any of the I'm

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Speaker 2: I was just explained to Steven who Luke was and

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Speaker 2: that he was a grumpy diner worker who wears a

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Speaker 2: backwards hat. And I'm saying, like that could be a

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Speaker 3: Oh no, for sure. If I've made eye contact with

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Speaker 3: he wants it and he just doesn't know it yet

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Speaker 2: gonna like continue going to his diner for like nine

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Speaker 3: So anyway, Lauren Graham, she is an actress.

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Speaker 2: She's an actress. What's crazy about this book is she

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Speaker 2: is Laura Lai. It's just her like talking fast and

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Speaker 2: Well, but I think it's also the playing off something

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Speaker 3: But like to give you an example, So this whole

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Speaker 3: book is like silly yess and she does go intince

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Speaker 2: How cool is I mean? That is so our fantasy,

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Speaker 3: No, I mean every day. I'm just like, we were

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Speaker 3: It's so sad that we weren't actresses living west. Probably

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Speaker 3: ancestors like family crest has the words new ubili on it,

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Speaker 3: which if you speak French you know, means don't forget.

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Speaker 3: And then she goes, this information is disheartening and that

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Speaker 3: it tells me it has been predetermined by birth that

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Speaker 3: I will never get any better at not losing my keys,

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Speaker 3: but also comforting that it teaches me I'm not alone,

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Speaker 3: but in fact come from a long line of forgetful

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Speaker 3: ancestors who were so noted for this characteristic that they

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Speaker 3: mental And you're like, oh, hey, like so like nerdy

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Speaker 3: making nerd pans, No.

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Speaker 2: It's like imaginary keys that are lost. Yeah, she's very

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Speaker 2: like Daddy's girl because her mother, who sounds so iconic, like.

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Speaker 3: Kind of like bounced to London.

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Speaker 2: We moved to London, like worked for like small Japanese

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Speaker 2: I like driving on the Furrow five to May Whitman's

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Speaker 2: ever called anything besides chicken cutlets. These acquisitions and didn't

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Speaker 2: seem strange to me at the time. They seem mandatory

439
00:20:27,840 --> 00:20:30,840
Speaker 2: or at least highly recommended. Every audition room I entered

440
00:20:30,920 --> 00:20:33,280
Speaker 2: was filled with actresses with bigger boobs than mine. I

441
00:20:33,280 --> 00:20:36,119
Speaker 2: remember thinking I'd better catch up. It felt like everyone

442
00:20:36,200 --> 00:20:38,080
Speaker 2: knew what sort of boobs they were supposed to have

443
00:20:38,200 --> 00:20:40,840
Speaker 2: and really also had them. And then this is the

444
00:20:40,880 --> 00:20:43,320
Speaker 2: part where her and Connie Britton stay. This is so

445
00:20:43,440 --> 00:20:45,919
Speaker 2: fab Their friend is like, oh, I'm getting divorced, you

446
00:20:45,920 --> 00:20:48,440
Speaker 2: can stay at my empty apartment that my husband and

447
00:20:48,440 --> 00:20:50,880
Speaker 2: I used to own. But he doesn't know, so they

448
00:20:50,960 --> 00:20:51,680
Speaker 2: just squat.

449
00:20:52,119 --> 00:20:54,920
Speaker 3: Yeah. And then when she's like, oh, my husband might

450
00:20:54,960 --> 00:20:57,000
Speaker 3: be in the neighborhood, so like turn off the lights

451
00:20:57,040 --> 00:21:00,600
Speaker 3: and hide in the backyard if he's just like driving around, yeah,

452
00:21:00,640 --> 00:21:03,200
Speaker 3: like you need to Hie Hills and being like checking

453
00:21:03,240 --> 00:21:06,199
Speaker 3: up on his old house but like not going inside anyway.

454
00:21:06,240 --> 00:21:08,840
Speaker 3: But they were being fab for sure for a while.

455
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Speaker 2: And so one of her first roles was the show

456
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Speaker 2: We Loved which I would discuss Caroline in the City.

457
00:21:15,920 --> 00:21:19,359
Speaker 2: She gets a role as like someone's annoying girlfriend on it.

458
00:21:19,400 --> 00:21:21,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, she gets a recurring role. I love the part

459
00:21:21,119 --> 00:21:24,280
Speaker 3: where she's like at fred Siegel or something and like

460
00:21:24,359 --> 00:21:26,320
Speaker 3: the security gar comes over and he's like, oh man,

461
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Speaker 3: I just want le you know. There's a lot of

462
00:21:27,359 --> 00:21:29,919
Speaker 3: paparazzi outside, and like we have a side entrance you

463
00:21:29,920 --> 00:21:33,560
Speaker 3: can exit, and she's like okay, so like not to pry.

464
00:21:33,400 --> 00:21:34,600
Speaker 2: But like who else is here?

465
00:21:34,720 --> 00:21:36,760
Speaker 3: I assume they're not here for me, just because they

466
00:21:36,880 --> 00:21:39,439
Speaker 3: recently booked a recurring role in Caroline in the City.

467
00:21:39,720 --> 00:21:41,960
Speaker 3: And he's like, Gwen Stefani is shopping right now.

468
00:21:42,440 --> 00:21:44,280
Speaker 2: No, And that's why, like she is iconic.

469
00:21:44,359 --> 00:21:47,080
Speaker 3: No, she's so iconic for admitting that she's not that famous.

470
00:21:46,800 --> 00:21:49,199
Speaker 2: Right, it is, like but still being like, yes, I

471
00:21:49,320 --> 00:21:51,600
Speaker 2: just booked a recurring on Caroline in the City.

472
00:21:51,920 --> 00:21:54,520
Speaker 3: So we were just mentioning this before the show started.

473
00:21:55,160 --> 00:21:57,520
Speaker 3: Caroline in the City is like one of those nineties

474
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Speaker 3: kind of NBC sitcoms that was just so like cosmopolitan

475
00:22:01,920 --> 00:22:07,120
Speaker 3: women working at magazines in New York. You had mad

476
00:22:07,160 --> 00:22:10,159
Speaker 3: about you, you had I mean Fraser Seattle, but it

477
00:22:10,200 --> 00:22:10,720
Speaker 3: was still like.

478
00:22:10,800 --> 00:22:12,639
Speaker 2: And it was in the mussy Thursday block.

479
00:22:12,840 --> 00:22:17,399
Speaker 3: Yeah, and then you know, suddenly Susan Will and Grace

480
00:22:17,480 --> 00:22:20,240
Speaker 3: like all of these New York shows. You know, again,

481
00:22:20,280 --> 00:22:22,000
Speaker 3: Fraser was Seattle, but it was still about like, you know,

482
00:22:22,040 --> 00:22:23,880
Speaker 3: sophisticated people.

483
00:22:23,800 --> 00:22:27,960
Speaker 2: In a big, open concept department with a small galley kitchen.

484
00:22:27,680 --> 00:22:29,760
Speaker 3: And one in which you know, their connection to the

485
00:22:29,800 --> 00:22:32,400
Speaker 3: city was vital. You know. It was all about being

486
00:22:32,440 --> 00:22:34,480
Speaker 3: immersed in culture and.

487
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Speaker 2: Art and having friends. And that wasn't like, oh, you

488
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Speaker 2: have to get married in Caroline the City all now

489
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Speaker 2: that I'm thinking about it. One of the first WFH.

490
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Speaker 3: Spotting so insane. She predicted COVID, so she had like

491
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Speaker 3: a drafting.

492
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Speaker 2: Table she was always sitting. So it was about a

493
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Speaker 2: cartoonist Caroline Duffy nineties kids know, played by Redhead what

494
00:22:54,600 --> 00:22:55,320
Speaker 2: is her name?

495
00:22:55,840 --> 00:22:59,359
Speaker 3: Leah Thompson, Leah Thompson and she was never in anything else.

496
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Speaker 2: She was in the Virtual Ghostbusters.

497
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Speaker 3: I think, okay, I'm dB sorry.

498
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Speaker 2: It's actually one of my favorite websites, but I was

499
00:23:07,800 --> 00:23:09,520
Speaker 2: looking at photos of it, and so the plot is,

500
00:23:09,560 --> 00:23:11,879
Speaker 2: she's a cartoonist, sits at a big drafting table. She

501
00:23:11,920 --> 00:23:14,920
Speaker 2: has a sassy Italian friend who lives across the hall,

502
00:23:15,400 --> 00:23:19,000
Speaker 2: and then there's like the colorist who's like hot and

503
00:23:19,040 --> 00:23:21,960
Speaker 2: he's always picking up like her cartoons from her. And

504
00:23:22,000 --> 00:23:24,359
Speaker 2: then there's another guy in the mix, and I'm like,

505
00:23:25,040 --> 00:23:28,520
Speaker 2: she's so butch, Like it's literally about Alison Bechdel. I'm like,

506
00:23:28,560 --> 00:23:30,760
Speaker 2: this is the show about lesbians.

507
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Speaker 3: She has short hair.

508
00:23:32,280 --> 00:23:34,000
Speaker 2: She's short hair, and her friend also kind of has

509
00:23:34,040 --> 00:23:35,760
Speaker 2: short hairs, and it is a struggling actress.

510
00:23:35,920 --> 00:23:38,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean cartoonist is an extremely lesbian.

511
00:23:39,560 --> 00:23:43,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, looking back on nineties that comes with a queer lens.

512
00:23:45,800 --> 00:23:48,280
Speaker 3: Oh, I'd love to come to that talk you're giving.

513
00:23:48,560 --> 00:23:51,080
Speaker 2: I'm hosting a virtual metro.

514
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Speaker 3: It's a virtual metro graph like in conjunction with like

515
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Speaker 3: Akron University. Oh, I guess I just wanted to say,

516
00:23:56,640 --> 00:23:58,359
Speaker 3: like cultural point, I will write an essay on this,

517
00:23:58,480 --> 00:24:00,919
Speaker 3: but like we don't have so many like multiicam sitcoms

518
00:24:00,920 --> 00:24:04,600
Speaker 3: with laugh track anymore. But like what does like qualifies

519
00:24:04,640 --> 00:24:08,240
Speaker 3: a sitcom in like nowadays? Is like a Modern Family,

520
00:24:08,480 --> 00:24:11,399
Speaker 3: is a Blackish? Is a Parenthood which Lauren Graham was

521
00:24:11,400 --> 00:24:13,680
Speaker 3: on later, is like that show Mom with Alice and

522
00:24:13,720 --> 00:24:16,880
Speaker 3: Jenney that no one's seen, and like these shows are

523
00:24:16,920 --> 00:24:20,080
Speaker 3: all like very suburban. They all take places in like

524
00:24:20,119 --> 00:24:21,840
Speaker 3: a big house and like you don't know where the

525
00:24:21,840 --> 00:24:24,000
Speaker 3: city is. They're not like connected to their I.

526
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Speaker 2: Think it's because like young urbanites yuppies as you may

527
00:24:27,080 --> 00:24:31,400
Speaker 2: call them, like us used to watch network television, right,

528
00:24:31,640 --> 00:24:34,160
Speaker 2: and the only people that watch network television now are

529
00:24:34,400 --> 00:24:37,719
Speaker 2: old people. So they're like, let's make the Mom and

530
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Speaker 2: the reboot with like the cop from Every Lost Raymond

531
00:24:41,600 --> 00:24:46,120
Speaker 2: where he's like an uns on CBS. And then it's

532
00:24:46,160 --> 00:24:48,479
Speaker 2: like the other two, which is a sitcom and they

533
00:24:48,480 --> 00:24:50,439
Speaker 2: do live New York City, but is like you know,

534
00:24:50,480 --> 00:24:52,119
Speaker 2: more elevated that's on HBO.

535
00:24:52,520 --> 00:24:55,040
Speaker 3: Yeah. No, I think that's totally true. It's not necessarily

536
00:24:55,040 --> 00:24:57,520
Speaker 3: a reflection of like the culture changing, but the demographics

537
00:24:57,560 --> 00:25:00,720
Speaker 3: is watching network television is changing? Yeah, because obviously like

538
00:25:00,840 --> 00:25:03,359
Speaker 3: more people live in cities than ever, and America is

539
00:25:03,440 --> 00:25:05,359
Speaker 3: more urbanized now than.

540
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Speaker 2: Its elementary is only like city based sitcom I can

541
00:25:09,480 --> 00:25:12,160
Speaker 2: think of, but it's like about a school and it's

542
00:25:12,160 --> 00:25:15,760
Speaker 2: in Philly, and you like are rarely seeing it's.

543
00:25:16,040 --> 00:25:19,359
Speaker 3: It's not it's not so city base. Yeah, but like

544
00:25:19,560 --> 00:25:20,600
Speaker 3: it's not about yuppies.

545
00:25:21,320 --> 00:25:25,440
Speaker 2: Please bring back the sitcom of just like sorry, a

546
00:25:25,480 --> 00:25:27,679
Speaker 2: single woman living in a huge.

547
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Speaker 3: You know, you could say that like Girls like was

548
00:25:30,359 --> 00:25:33,480
Speaker 3: the realist version of that, and then you know Lena

549
00:25:33,640 --> 00:25:36,199
Speaker 3: really covered all the bases, but that show and so

550
00:25:36,240 --> 00:25:40,200
Speaker 3: there hasn't really been like a city driven show since then.

551
00:25:40,560 --> 00:25:44,560
Speaker 2: City driven show, yeah, And so basically like Caroline Duffy

552
00:25:44,680 --> 00:25:49,480
Speaker 2: was a precursor don and I would say like lou

553
00:25:49,560 --> 00:25:53,120
Speaker 2: Go on Gilmour Girls was a precursor to Adam Driver

554
00:25:53,520 --> 00:25:55,080
Speaker 2: on Girls.

555
00:25:54,800 --> 00:26:01,880
Speaker 3: Right as being like angry barista, now what everyone.

556
00:26:01,119 --> 00:26:03,399
Speaker 2: And everyone's like, he's so hot?

557
00:26:03,920 --> 00:26:06,919
Speaker 3: Okay, So I wanted to talk about an interesting Tibet.

558
00:26:06,920 --> 00:26:09,720
Speaker 3: So there is some like slight tea.

559
00:26:09,920 --> 00:26:13,040
Speaker 2: It's only tea. It's more her talking about the industry.

560
00:26:13,280 --> 00:26:15,720
Speaker 3: It's honesty, yeah what it is, and.

561
00:26:15,560 --> 00:26:19,560
Speaker 2: We keep it brief, but we love honestly, we love

562
00:26:19,600 --> 00:26:20,560
Speaker 2: honesty on this show.

563
00:26:20,960 --> 00:26:23,359
Speaker 3: So she has this whole chapter about how she was

564
00:26:23,359 --> 00:26:26,040
Speaker 3: like gonna be on a late night show and like

565
00:26:26,119 --> 00:26:28,520
Speaker 3: she was supposed to be after Ryan Goslin. He was

566
00:26:28,520 --> 00:26:30,240
Speaker 3: gonna be the first guesshow to be a second, and

567
00:26:30,280 --> 00:26:33,400
Speaker 3: then Ryan Goslin could not confirm, so they bumped her

568
00:26:33,800 --> 00:26:37,560
Speaker 3: because basically, like she's not that famous and she couldn't

569
00:26:37,600 --> 00:26:39,679
Speaker 3: be like the lead guest, and they needed someone more

570
00:26:39,720 --> 00:26:42,879
Speaker 3: famous and a man to go first. And she was

571
00:26:42,920 --> 00:26:44,520
Speaker 3: being like, why do all these late night shows that

572
00:26:44,520 --> 00:26:46,560
Speaker 3: are hosted by men have to have like a man

573
00:26:46,600 --> 00:26:48,840
Speaker 3: on the show? And I do agree with that. I

574
00:26:48,880 --> 00:26:53,359
Speaker 3: feel like, you know, the most exciting chemistry on a

575
00:26:53,440 --> 00:26:55,760
Speaker 3: late night show is between a female guest and a

576
00:26:55,800 --> 00:26:56,320
Speaker 3: male host.

577
00:26:56,560 --> 00:26:58,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it's the sexual attention.

578
00:26:58,760 --> 00:27:01,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, It's like that's what's At the same time, though

579
00:27:01,480 --> 00:27:04,280
Speaker 3: she is not that famous, so true, they do need someone,

580
00:27:04,520 --> 00:27:06,080
Speaker 3: but they could have had a more famous woman in

581
00:27:06,080 --> 00:27:07,439
Speaker 3: front of her rather than Ryan Goswain.

582
00:27:07,480 --> 00:27:10,560
Speaker 2: They were gonna get Sharon, Like Lauren Graham was freaking

583
00:27:10,600 --> 00:27:11,919
Speaker 2: out and its being like, can you believe I was

584
00:27:12,400 --> 00:27:13,640
Speaker 2: almost that she was.

585
00:27:13,600 --> 00:27:15,560
Speaker 3: Literally the first guest was a man and the second

586
00:27:15,560 --> 00:27:17,119
Speaker 3: guest was a woman, and sadly for all of us,

587
00:27:17,280 --> 00:27:19,480
Speaker 3: neither of them were share and my eyebrows never got

588
00:27:19,480 --> 00:27:21,560
Speaker 3: a call back because like she also was trying to

589
00:27:21,560 --> 00:27:23,600
Speaker 3: get her eyebrows waxed, and then like she couldn't. So

590
00:27:23,680 --> 00:27:25,000
Speaker 3: this is the part that I guess I thought was

591
00:27:25,080 --> 00:27:27,480
Speaker 3: kind of tea. So she's talking about a word shows

592
00:27:27,480 --> 00:27:30,320
Speaker 3: blah blah blah. The best hair and makeup people get

593
00:27:30,320 --> 00:27:32,200
Speaker 3: booked up as well, and in some cases are put

594
00:27:32,240 --> 00:27:35,040
Speaker 3: on hold waiting for a special client. I had a

595
00:27:35,040 --> 00:27:37,600
Speaker 3: makeup artist whom I loved working with tell me she

596
00:27:37,720 --> 00:27:40,080
Speaker 3: probably wouldn't be seeing me for a while because Nicole

597
00:27:40,160 --> 00:27:43,199
Speaker 3: Kibben had worked her for the year. That was the

598
00:27:43,280 --> 00:27:46,119
Speaker 3: whole same, Like, how would that even work? Is she

599
00:27:46,200 --> 00:27:48,440
Speaker 3: on call like some sort of er doctor who pays

600
00:27:48,440 --> 00:27:50,560
Speaker 3: for her to be taken off the market. It doesn't

601
00:27:50,560 --> 00:27:52,240
Speaker 3: matter exactly, but when you lose a makeup artist or

602
00:27:52,240 --> 00:27:54,520
Speaker 3: anyother artist, someone more important than you, it can't help

603
00:27:54,520 --> 00:27:56,280
Speaker 3: but feel like you've been a little bit broken up

604
00:27:56,280 --> 00:27:58,840
Speaker 3: with by a guy who traded up to a hotter girl.

605
00:27:59,359 --> 00:27:59,560
Speaker 2: Tee.

606
00:27:59,680 --> 00:28:01,919
Speaker 3: I love the idea though, that Nicole is literally like

607
00:28:02,359 --> 00:28:03,960
Speaker 3: pulling her off the market on retainer.

608
00:28:04,680 --> 00:28:06,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, because you don't want to be Nicole and being

609
00:28:06,520 --> 00:28:10,080
Speaker 2: like checking in about her schedule and she's like.

610
00:28:10,240 --> 00:28:12,240
Speaker 3: And then she's like bail And then it's so queer extreme.

611
00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:14,240
Speaker 3: You're going back and forth like I could do Thursday,

612
00:28:14,320 --> 00:28:15,840
Speaker 3: but I couldn't do and Nicole.

613
00:28:15,760 --> 00:28:19,520
Speaker 2: Is texting back from her ranch being like Thursday three fifteen.

614
00:28:20,119 --> 00:28:22,280
Speaker 2: The other fun part. I feel like about this one

615
00:28:22,359 --> 00:28:24,560
Speaker 2: that was kind that we wouldn't say tea, but like

616
00:28:24,600 --> 00:28:26,560
Speaker 2: she goes into just like.

617
00:28:26,600 --> 00:28:28,400
Speaker 3: This book is I wouldn't say tea.

618
00:28:28,880 --> 00:28:31,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, I wouldn't say tea because it's like her honoring

619
00:28:31,280 --> 00:28:34,040
Speaker 2: the Nora Ephron, you know, the Dorothy Parker, and she

620
00:28:34,359 --> 00:28:37,679
Speaker 2: honors her in a chapter. It's like, yeah, the.

621
00:28:37,680 --> 00:28:40,880
Speaker 3: Whole chapter to our favorite book. Yeah. In the chapter

622
00:28:40,960 --> 00:28:43,120
Speaker 3: is called I Feel Bad about Nora Fron's Now.

623
00:28:43,480 --> 00:28:46,520
Speaker 2: It's pretty silly, yeah, And it's her talking about going

624
00:28:46,560 --> 00:28:48,920
Speaker 2: to all of like the retreats and the cleanses but

625
00:28:49,080 --> 00:28:53,000
Speaker 2: being so laurli about it, being like, sorry, where's the chocolate? Yeah,

626
00:28:53,120 --> 00:28:54,560
Speaker 2: after the seaweed.

627
00:28:54,120 --> 00:28:57,520
Speaker 3: Wrap, and she's just doing all of these like whatever,

628
00:28:57,600 --> 00:28:59,840
Speaker 3: seven day retreats that are sixty five hundred dollars. I

629
00:28:59,840 --> 00:29:02,280
Speaker 3: mean her Beyonce goes to one in Switzerland and they

630
00:29:02,480 --> 00:29:06,040
Speaker 3: do have television. I'll see you there next year, and.

631
00:29:06,040 --> 00:29:08,520
Speaker 2: Like she's always been like, yeah, so before I go

632
00:29:08,600 --> 00:29:10,840
Speaker 2: to a retreat, I go to a Burger King and

633
00:29:10,880 --> 00:29:13,680
Speaker 2: I order every single thing on the menu, a.

634
00:29:13,720 --> 00:29:16,000
Speaker 3: Part where she's like and then me and maybe it's

635
00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:17,840
Speaker 3: my whitman. Maybe it's another one of her chica's like

636
00:29:17,880 --> 00:29:19,800
Speaker 3: go to some retreat and they're like and we open

637
00:29:19,880 --> 00:29:22,840
Speaker 3: the door and all the Burger King rappers spilled out

638
00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:26,000
Speaker 3: and the kind gentlemen like grabbing our bags, pretended not

639
00:29:26,120 --> 00:29:28,400
Speaker 3: to notice, and it's just kind of like, well, I

640
00:29:28,480 --> 00:29:31,320
Speaker 3: don't think the bad guy cares that you're eating burger

641
00:29:31,440 --> 00:29:33,840
Speaker 3: It's not like he's judging you being like oh like

642
00:29:34,120 --> 00:29:37,160
Speaker 3: he's like so wellness pilled and being like yeah, we're

643
00:29:37,200 --> 00:29:39,000
Speaker 3: so calm here, like okay.

644
00:29:38,680 --> 00:29:40,640
Speaker 2: But have you ever been to a wellness retreat?

645
00:29:41,440 --> 00:29:44,120
Speaker 3: No? I haven't, And maybe the porters are totally wellness

646
00:29:44,160 --> 00:29:45,040
Speaker 3: pilled and they are judging.

647
00:29:45,800 --> 00:29:48,280
Speaker 2: They could be coming out in like such a tunic

648
00:29:48,640 --> 00:29:51,920
Speaker 2: with like a shot of like racie tea and they're

649
00:29:51,960 --> 00:29:55,320
Speaker 2: being so like welcome Lauren, right, and then it's so

650
00:29:55,360 --> 00:29:56,320
Speaker 2: many rappers and.

651
00:29:56,280 --> 00:29:59,760
Speaker 3: It's like sort of like vaguely Eastern, like Aushrum inspired

652
00:29:59,800 --> 00:30:00,240
Speaker 3: but not.

653
00:30:00,760 --> 00:30:03,000
Speaker 2: Right, and she's just being like, oh god, this is

654
00:30:03,040 --> 00:30:07,440
Speaker 2: so embarrassing. Yeah, me, would you go on one of

655
00:30:07,440 --> 00:30:10,600
Speaker 2: those retreats? I'm always just like that sounds so not fun.

656
00:30:10,760 --> 00:30:13,600
Speaker 3: Lad, he wants to more than anything in the world,

657
00:30:13,800 --> 00:30:16,880
Speaker 3: just to reset, right, And she talks about the challenge

658
00:30:17,200 --> 00:30:19,440
Speaker 3: of the reset, of the reset and of like not

659
00:30:19,680 --> 00:30:23,160
Speaker 3: eating and like just doing tea and like not being

660
00:30:23,200 --> 00:30:26,040
Speaker 3: on your phone and like all that, Like I think

661
00:30:26,080 --> 00:30:29,520
Speaker 3: that could be so beneficial. And of course, like in

662
00:30:29,560 --> 00:30:31,560
Speaker 3: such a Friend of the Pond Mickey Blanco, where I'm like, yes,

663
00:30:31,600 --> 00:30:33,760
Speaker 3: I want to go to Vietnam and hike for two

664
00:30:33,880 --> 00:30:38,600
Speaker 3: weeks and fast and fast and gets so sinewy. I

665
00:30:38,640 --> 00:30:40,960
Speaker 3: don't love the idea of spending like eighty five hundred

666
00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:41,880
Speaker 3: dollars for it.

667
00:30:42,120 --> 00:30:43,960
Speaker 2: That's the thing where I must where it's like it's

668
00:30:44,000 --> 00:30:47,360
Speaker 2: eighty five hundred and then like the food sounds like

669
00:30:47,520 --> 00:30:50,040
Speaker 2: not that good, and then there's no TV and I

670
00:30:50,120 --> 00:30:53,720
Speaker 2: know it's about unplucking, and then you have to like

671
00:30:53,760 --> 00:30:55,720
Speaker 2: go to like so many like speakers here. You know

672
00:30:55,760 --> 00:30:56,920
Speaker 2: what I would want to do?

673
00:30:56,920 --> 00:30:58,600
Speaker 3: Do you want? Would you want to do the Charles Robert.

674
00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:02,400
Speaker 3: You're getting like Meashlin meals but also not on your phone.

675
00:31:02,400 --> 00:31:04,440
Speaker 2: But but that feels a little more interesting rather than

676
00:31:04,480 --> 00:31:06,880
Speaker 2: just kind of like some basic yoga mud wraps and

677
00:31:06,920 --> 00:31:09,560
Speaker 2: like going to see like someone who was on Oprah

678
00:31:09,640 --> 00:31:11,960
Speaker 2: last season talk like I want to be forced in

679
00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:13,840
Speaker 2: a room and like screaming.

680
00:31:14,480 --> 00:31:16,400
Speaker 3: What I actually want is to go to a spot

681
00:31:16,400 --> 00:31:19,640
Speaker 3: where you get massaged from nine am till nine pm.

682
00:31:20,280 --> 00:31:22,400
Speaker 3: And that's how I would not eat, and so that's

683
00:31:22,400 --> 00:31:25,080
Speaker 3: how I'm doing the fasting and resetting my body.

684
00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:28,720
Speaker 2: I'm dead a nine no, how many hours does not,

685
00:31:28,800 --> 00:31:31,040
Speaker 2: I don't know, but twelve twelve hours, I feel like

686
00:31:31,120 --> 00:31:34,360
Speaker 2: that's like bad for you. Like I was like you

687
00:31:34,400 --> 00:31:36,280
Speaker 2: would get like really dehydrated.

688
00:31:36,520 --> 00:31:37,920
Speaker 3: Oh, you would get so deep.

689
00:31:38,120 --> 00:31:39,920
Speaker 2: No, and it's like you come out of this like

690
00:31:40,040 --> 00:31:43,360
Speaker 2: twelve day, twelve hour massage thing and it's very like

691
00:31:43,400 --> 00:31:45,920
Speaker 2: you're on the brink of death. And then there's like

692
00:31:45,960 --> 00:31:49,880
Speaker 2: a Netflix dock about this, like massage.

693
00:31:49,760 --> 00:31:52,400
Speaker 3: Week, Can you do an ice bath or whatever? And

694
00:31:52,440 --> 00:31:53,800
Speaker 3: like you are now in a cult.

695
00:31:55,080 --> 00:31:55,200
Speaker 4: Oh.

696
00:31:55,240 --> 00:31:57,120
Speaker 2: I wanted to read this part about her running into

697
00:31:57,120 --> 00:32:00,280
Speaker 2: an X because she's being just like so like she

698
00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:00,880
Speaker 2: killed me.

699
00:32:00,960 --> 00:32:02,480
Speaker 3: I don't want to talk about her love life at all.

700
00:32:02,520 --> 00:32:04,080
Speaker 3: Maybe she discussed it in her other three New York

701
00:32:04,120 --> 00:32:05,360
Speaker 3: Times best selling books.

702
00:32:05,080 --> 00:32:07,240
Speaker 2: But okay, that was my thing about this book where

703
00:32:07,280 --> 00:32:10,640
Speaker 2: I was like, she spends an entire chapter talking about

704
00:32:10,680 --> 00:32:13,200
Speaker 2: like I mean, which is great for her, Like how

705
00:32:13,240 --> 00:32:18,200
Speaker 2: she directed an episode of like Mighty Ducks the Aviation Activation,

706
00:32:18,600 --> 00:32:20,880
Speaker 2: and it was a little bit like, let's give well.

707
00:32:20,920 --> 00:32:22,800
Speaker 3: First of all, she gives all these like boring, like

708
00:32:22,840 --> 00:32:24,600
Speaker 3: tips on how to direct.

709
00:32:24,240 --> 00:32:29,520
Speaker 2: And she keeps on saying, Mighty Ducks for Disney Plus.

710
00:32:28,320 --> 00:32:30,760
Speaker 3: It really heard Disney Plus show. And I'm like, thanks

711
00:32:30,800 --> 00:32:33,880
Speaker 3: for this wiki, how on like directing? It's so boring,

712
00:32:34,200 --> 00:32:35,840
Speaker 3: And then she keeps being like and I was so

713
00:32:35,960 --> 00:32:39,240
Speaker 3: nervous to direct. And I watched a trailer for Disney

714
00:32:39,280 --> 00:32:43,479
Speaker 3: Plus Mighty Ducks too, like whatever this TV sequel, And

715
00:32:43,520 --> 00:32:45,520
Speaker 3: I'm just like, I don't know if you had to

716
00:32:45,560 --> 00:32:48,960
Speaker 3: be so nervous about directing this show. It seems pretty straightforward,

717
00:32:49,040 --> 00:32:50,720
Speaker 3: like the stakes are not really high here.

718
00:32:51,000 --> 00:32:53,280
Speaker 2: That's what I thought too. I was like, I can't believe,

719
00:32:53,360 --> 00:32:55,400
Speaker 2: like you're such a loser of being so nervous for

720
00:32:55,480 --> 00:32:58,000
Speaker 2: talking about directing Money Ducks for Disney Plus. But then

721
00:32:58,040 --> 00:33:00,960
Speaker 2: I was like, take it back a second, Lily, I

722
00:33:01,000 --> 00:33:05,120
Speaker 2: would be so nervous.

723
00:33:03,680 --> 00:33:06,880
Speaker 3: I grow a pair.

724
00:33:07,480 --> 00:33:09,280
Speaker 2: Oh you don't think you'd be nervous at all if

725
00:33:09,280 --> 00:33:12,200
Speaker 2: it was your first directing ever and you were always

726
00:33:12,200 --> 00:33:13,040
Speaker 2: in front of the camera.

727
00:33:13,600 --> 00:33:15,560
Speaker 3: I guess if I had been working on this show

728
00:33:15,600 --> 00:33:19,440
Speaker 3: already for like a season and Disney and storing it

729
00:33:19,480 --> 00:33:23,120
Speaker 3: and like pretty familiar with like all of the characters

730
00:33:23,160 --> 00:33:25,760
Speaker 3: and like the scenes and the sets and like how

731
00:33:25,880 --> 00:33:28,840
Speaker 3: the episodes go, I think I'd be able to say, like, okay,

732
00:33:29,080 --> 00:33:32,560
Speaker 3: places everyone, like we're gonna shoot this scene in the

733
00:33:32,600 --> 00:33:33,760
Speaker 3: coach's office, like.

734
00:33:34,400 --> 00:33:36,840
Speaker 2: This is insane. These are some of her like directing

735
00:33:36,840 --> 00:33:38,720
Speaker 2: advice where it's just like you don't need it to

736
00:33:38,720 --> 00:33:42,840
Speaker 2: be perfect, you need it good thirty five move the camera.

737
00:33:43,200 --> 00:33:48,280
Speaker 2: It's like, oh, actually this I found interesting. About the

738
00:33:48,280 --> 00:33:52,720
Speaker 2: shooting of Gilmore Girls, she says that they did did wonners, Yeah,

739
00:33:52,760 --> 00:33:53,280
Speaker 2: the Wonners.

740
00:33:53,400 --> 00:33:55,240
Speaker 3: Yeah. So that's kind of like a walk and talk

741
00:33:55,360 --> 00:33:56,720
Speaker 3: like you see that a lot in shows like The

742
00:33:56,720 --> 00:33:58,760
Speaker 3: West Wing, like Aaron Torkin's famous for it. But it's

743
00:33:58,800 --> 00:34:00,800
Speaker 3: like where the camera's moving in there talking the whole time.

744
00:34:01,480 --> 00:34:02,720
Speaker 3: And then she had this thing where she's like, yeah,

745
00:34:02,760 --> 00:34:04,520
Speaker 3: like one time they did do thirty takes, so we

746
00:34:04,520 --> 00:34:06,760
Speaker 3: didn't get it right because we kept flubbing our dialogue

747
00:34:06,760 --> 00:34:08,200
Speaker 3: because we're ridiculous and we're laughing.

748
00:34:09,360 --> 00:34:12,080
Speaker 2: It's stressful to be late. Don't be late. Pace is

749
00:34:12,080 --> 00:34:14,600
Speaker 2: a big deal. You have a brilliant ear and instinct

750
00:34:14,640 --> 00:34:16,480
Speaker 2: for it. Pay attention to it.

751
00:34:16,600 --> 00:34:18,480
Speaker 3: I mean, ultimately, she's just kind of being like, yeah,

752
00:34:18,480 --> 00:34:20,239
Speaker 3: I trust yourself. And then she's like, I wish I

753
00:34:20,280 --> 00:34:22,480
Speaker 3: trusted myself more and taking more risk on this episode

754
00:34:22,480 --> 00:34:24,360
Speaker 3: of Disney Plus the Mighty Ducks.

755
00:34:25,440 --> 00:34:28,680
Speaker 2: And then I she mentions how her and Josh Dumel

756
00:34:28,880 --> 00:34:31,960
Speaker 2: have like a kiss. This was funny in Mighty Ducks

757
00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:37,000
Speaker 2: and they hired an intimacy coordinator for this really short kiss,

758
00:34:37,480 --> 00:34:39,640
Speaker 2: and like Lauren Graham was like, so why are you

759
00:34:39,680 --> 00:34:43,120
Speaker 2: here to the intimacy coordinator, and the coordinator was like,

760
00:34:43,480 --> 00:34:45,400
Speaker 2: just to make sure there's consent and to make you

761
00:34:45,440 --> 00:34:46,239
Speaker 2: feel comfortable.

762
00:34:46,760 --> 00:34:48,319
Speaker 3: She was joking about that, But then she had that

763
00:34:48,360 --> 00:34:50,840
Speaker 3: whole chapter earlier where she was like talking about intervacy

764
00:34:50,880 --> 00:34:52,319
Speaker 3: quarter how it is ridiculous. But then there was like

765
00:34:52,360 --> 00:34:54,839
Speaker 3: one time when like a director asked her to take

766
00:34:54,880 --> 00:34:58,160
Speaker 3: her bra off like under the shirt like for a scene,

767
00:34:58,160 --> 00:35:00,719
Speaker 3: and she was so like and I that I had

768
00:35:00,760 --> 00:35:03,120
Speaker 3: had like the bravery to say no, but then I

769
00:35:03,160 --> 00:35:06,440
Speaker 3: also did say no, but I like was worried about it,

770
00:35:06,480 --> 00:35:07,799
Speaker 3: and I was a little bit just like.

771
00:35:08,280 --> 00:35:12,160
Speaker 2: Care just one wonder bra and she was like consent.

772
00:35:12,239 --> 00:35:13,640
Speaker 2: It's Josh Dumel, Hello.

773
00:35:13,920 --> 00:35:14,560
Speaker 3: Yeah.

774
00:35:14,840 --> 00:35:17,439
Speaker 2: Yeah. I think she goes between being like horny gen

775
00:35:17,719 --> 00:35:20,200
Speaker 2: x like fifty year old, in between like just kind

776
00:35:20,239 --> 00:35:22,360
Speaker 2: of like your basic feminists.

777
00:35:22,760 --> 00:35:24,719
Speaker 3: Part of it is also like she's not sure and

778
00:35:24,840 --> 00:35:27,399
Speaker 3: so and she really hasn't had that many experiences where

779
00:35:27,440 --> 00:35:30,320
Speaker 3: she's been asked to like compromise her Christianity on film.

780
00:35:30,400 --> 00:35:33,839
Speaker 2: It's like, sorry, well, the producer of Mighty Ducks, it's

781
00:35:33,920 --> 00:35:35,560
Speaker 2: not like inviting you up to his total.

782
00:35:35,880 --> 00:35:39,720
Speaker 3: I've seen that show. She's like bundled up like a puffer.

783
00:35:39,840 --> 00:35:43,799
Speaker 3: It's so hockey now. It's like Gilmore Girls is like

784
00:35:43,920 --> 00:35:46,880
Speaker 3: so pumpkin spice, like sweater weather, like she's only wearing

785
00:35:46,920 --> 00:35:49,879
Speaker 3: eighteen sweaters and like nit hats and.

786
00:35:49,880 --> 00:35:54,560
Speaker 2: Like hers Luke don't even like kiss till like I

787
00:35:54,600 --> 00:35:56,920
Speaker 2: don't know, but it takes a long ass time.

788
00:35:57,320 --> 00:36:00,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, but I'm sure she wishes that maybe she had

789
00:36:00,320 --> 00:36:03,759
Speaker 3: some more like really racy stories of like.

790
00:36:04,320 --> 00:36:07,040
Speaker 2: Honestly make more sense because Amy Sherman Palladino is a

791
00:36:07,120 --> 00:36:10,480
Speaker 2: lesbian question Mark. She's that producer she made Glimmer Girls

792
00:36:10,480 --> 00:36:14,600
Speaker 2: and Marvelous Missus maisl And she's so huge Fedora. I

793
00:36:14,600 --> 00:36:16,920
Speaker 2: feel she's so the Emmy's in the top patch. She

794
00:36:17,040 --> 00:36:18,719
Speaker 2: sounds like a lesbian, but I also feel like I'm

795
00:36:18,760 --> 00:36:23,719
Speaker 2: confusing her with what's going now Linda Perry, Oh.

796
00:36:23,880 --> 00:36:27,200
Speaker 3: Yes, who's also always at the Grimmies and a Fedora.

797
00:36:26,760 --> 00:36:28,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, just kind of Fedora wearing folks.

798
00:36:28,840 --> 00:36:31,480
Speaker 3: Okay. A couple other teas that I did love, almost

799
00:36:31,520 --> 00:36:34,880
Speaker 3: teas as we're calling this book almost see. I like

800
00:36:35,000 --> 00:36:37,200
Speaker 3: the part where David Letterman told her that like did

801
00:36:37,280 --> 00:36:39,080
Speaker 3: not try to talk to the audience too much. It

802
00:36:39,160 --> 00:36:42,120
Speaker 3: like ruins the concentration, like really keep the focus between

803
00:36:42,160 --> 00:36:45,560
Speaker 3: guests and host. And then also when she was on

804
00:36:45,719 --> 00:36:48,560
Speaker 3: Oh No, the jay Leno, she had this like hilarious

805
00:36:48,600 --> 00:36:51,000
Speaker 3: story that's so relatable about how she had a dented

806
00:36:51,080 --> 00:36:54,319
Speaker 3: key lime Honda and like jay Leno pulled up next

807
00:36:54,320 --> 00:36:56,480
Speaker 3: to her to stop light and was just like, your

808
00:36:56,480 --> 00:37:00,279
Speaker 3: tail light is out, that's my Jayalen Impression York.

809
00:37:00,440 --> 00:37:02,680
Speaker 2: It's more like your tailor, Ie is your tar.

810
00:37:04,640 --> 00:37:07,680
Speaker 3: And she was so excited to finally tell this story

811
00:37:07,760 --> 00:37:09,520
Speaker 3: when she gets on jay Leno and she like tells

812
00:37:09,560 --> 00:37:12,160
Speaker 3: the producer before she's about to go on that this

813
00:37:12,200 --> 00:37:13,480
Speaker 3: is the story she wants to tell, and then the

814
00:37:13,480 --> 00:37:16,040
Speaker 3: producers like, wouldn't it be so much funnier if you

815
00:37:16,080 --> 00:37:18,440
Speaker 3: were in like a Dodge Pacer instead of a key

816
00:37:18,480 --> 00:37:21,640
Speaker 3: Lime Honda, And she, to her credit in this book,

817
00:37:21,680 --> 00:37:24,000
Speaker 3: she was like, Pacer was this kind of joke that

818
00:37:24,080 --> 00:37:26,120
Speaker 3: everyone was making at the time because it was like

819
00:37:26,200 --> 00:37:28,840
Speaker 3: kind of a Notoriosti boxy car. And she was honestly like,

820
00:37:28,880 --> 00:37:31,640
Speaker 3: the joke was kind of already played out. And I'm

821
00:37:31,719 --> 00:37:33,960
Speaker 3: kind of like hammed to her for saying that the

822
00:37:33,960 --> 00:37:35,360
Speaker 3: Pacer joke was played out, But then she was like,

823
00:37:35,360 --> 00:37:36,680
Speaker 3: but then I said it anyway because I feel like

824
00:37:36,719 --> 00:37:38,200
Speaker 3: I had to and I was pressured, and it wasn't

825
00:37:38,200 --> 00:37:40,959
Speaker 3: as funny because it wasn't as authentic. And the rule

826
00:37:41,000 --> 00:37:41,799
Speaker 3: is for yourself.

827
00:37:41,960 --> 00:37:44,759
Speaker 2: The rules for yourself is kind of like making fun

828
00:37:44,800 --> 00:37:48,440
Speaker 2: of like a what was that ridiculous? And yeah, a

829
00:37:48,480 --> 00:37:51,319
Speaker 2: PT Cruiser. It's so like five years later it's like,

830
00:37:51,440 --> 00:37:51,960
Speaker 2: we get it.

831
00:37:52,280 --> 00:37:54,319
Speaker 3: If you get a cruiser jokingly two thousand and eight,

832
00:37:54,360 --> 00:37:57,719
Speaker 3: it would have been like, hilarious joke. Right, wait, what's

833
00:37:57,760 --> 00:37:59,839
Speaker 3: the joke? Car of today?

834
00:38:00,000 --> 00:38:00,920
Speaker 2: My soul, I would say, is.

835
00:38:00,920 --> 00:38:02,759
Speaker 3: Already played out, so played out.

836
00:38:02,920 --> 00:38:04,520
Speaker 2: Kia soul jokes are so dumb.

837
00:38:06,920 --> 00:38:08,880
Speaker 3: I don't want to hear any Kia soul jokes on

838
00:38:08,920 --> 00:38:11,799
Speaker 3: your next sitcom. Lady is okay, send it to the.

839
00:38:11,760 --> 00:38:15,279
Speaker 2: Graveyard, okay, completely, you'd say it. I fully forgot about

840
00:38:15,280 --> 00:38:18,040
Speaker 2: that show Zoe's Extraordinary Playlist that she was in that

841
00:38:18,160 --> 00:38:21,320
Speaker 2: was so random. That's just about like people breaking into.

842
00:38:21,160 --> 00:38:23,200
Speaker 3: Song, yeah, and it's surrealist.

843
00:38:23,680 --> 00:38:23,960
Speaker 2: Yeah.

844
00:38:24,160 --> 00:38:25,920
Speaker 3: But there's also the other show that's called Like My

845
00:38:26,000 --> 00:38:28,400
Speaker 3: Crazy Ex Girlfriend that's also like a music.

846
00:38:28,320 --> 00:38:31,520
Speaker 2: Breaking out into song. These are like later c W

847
00:38:31,760 --> 00:38:33,440
Speaker 2: shows when I stopped watching the c W.

848
00:38:33,880 --> 00:38:37,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, So any younger folk out there, if you love

849
00:38:37,200 --> 00:38:38,160
Speaker 3: that show, like right.

850
00:38:38,080 --> 00:38:40,960
Speaker 2: In, please, I think we can all relate to this passage.

851
00:38:41,600 --> 00:38:44,480
Speaker 2: This is her just also being like inventing basic where

852
00:38:44,600 --> 00:38:47,400
Speaker 2: like she's doing in her mind. I would say, like

853
00:38:47,600 --> 00:38:50,080
Speaker 2: her love letter to Nora Ephron where she's talking about

854
00:38:50,080 --> 00:38:53,080
Speaker 2: like New York is the character and the whole story

855
00:38:53,120 --> 00:38:54,839
Speaker 2: is just about her walking in the West Side and

856
00:38:54,880 --> 00:38:58,319
Speaker 2: realizing that there's like AUDI dealerships. After I moved to

857
00:38:58,400 --> 00:39:00,400
Speaker 2: LA and returned to New York for visits, I began

858
00:39:00,440 --> 00:39:02,880
Speaker 2: to interpret these encounters as an indicator of where I

859
00:39:03,000 --> 00:39:06,120
Speaker 2: was in my life. There I'd be wandering a street

860
00:39:06,200 --> 00:39:08,520
Speaker 2: in search of a toasted everything being old scaling and

861
00:39:08,560 --> 00:39:12,000
Speaker 2: cream chase, when I'd suddenly run into that guy. Let's

862
00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:14,440
Speaker 2: call him below Org, because as far as I know,

863
00:39:14,800 --> 00:39:19,799
Speaker 2: there isn't as far I god like to excited, that

864
00:39:20,000 --> 00:39:23,440
Speaker 2: isn't any real old boyfriend's name who might want to

865
00:39:23,560 --> 00:39:27,719
Speaker 2: sue me. You know, Bloorg, the one with the extensive

866
00:39:27,800 --> 00:39:30,719
Speaker 2: Fedora collection who never called me back. There he is

867
00:39:30,719 --> 00:39:32,920
Speaker 2: on the corner of Bleaker Street. And what was I

868
00:39:33,120 --> 00:39:38,080
Speaker 2: thinking when I know he lives in Williamsburg, Brooklyn? What

869
00:39:38,320 --> 00:39:42,520
Speaker 2: you buie? Blorg might say, nodding his pillaid fedored head

870
00:39:42,560 --> 00:39:46,520
Speaker 2: towards my shopping bag full of hair removal creams. Nothing,

871
00:39:46,600 --> 00:39:48,920
Speaker 2: blow Org, I might say, tucking the bag under my

872
00:39:49,000 --> 00:39:51,839
Speaker 2: soon to be hair free under arm. Thanks for never

873
00:39:51,960 --> 00:39:52,560
Speaker 2: calling me back.

874
00:39:52,719 --> 00:39:56,239
Speaker 3: Fun hat got a run the way. She's actually kind

875
00:39:56,239 --> 00:39:57,680
Speaker 3: of just a CVS commercial.

876
00:39:58,000 --> 00:40:01,480
Speaker 2: No, I'm on the corner. Am I gonna gain? Wait?

877
00:40:01,600 --> 00:40:03,160
Speaker 2: Or should I buy these entimates?

878
00:40:03,640 --> 00:40:07,040
Speaker 3: Like but just being like, uh, yes, do I need

879
00:40:07,239 --> 00:40:10,400
Speaker 3: a razor and a makeup for a random dinner with

880
00:40:10,400 --> 00:40:13,480
Speaker 3: my ex that I wasn't planning on? Yes, I do. Like,

881
00:40:13,640 --> 00:40:18,000
Speaker 3: thank you, oh concealer pannyhose tombs, We've got that.

882
00:40:18,360 --> 00:40:20,520
Speaker 2: Of course, I ran into my axe in the check

883
00:40:20,560 --> 00:40:25,120
Speaker 2: out line at CBS while I was buying naar and tampons, killing.

884
00:40:24,960 --> 00:40:27,160
Speaker 3: Myself so embarrassing. Yeah.

885
00:40:27,320 --> 00:40:29,520
Speaker 2: No, she is like all of our favorite ads of

886
00:40:29,560 --> 00:40:32,640
Speaker 2: like a woman shaving while she does the dishes.

887
00:40:32,800 --> 00:40:34,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, two more things that I just kind of want

888
00:40:35,000 --> 00:40:37,560
Speaker 3: to like rip her to shreds for because it's the

889
00:40:37,600 --> 00:40:41,200
Speaker 3: podcast where we savagely criticize women for their choices. But

890
00:40:41,239 --> 00:40:45,160
Speaker 3: there's a part early in the book. It's early the

891
00:40:45,160 --> 00:40:48,160
Speaker 3: book where she gets really self righteous about like someone

892
00:40:48,200 --> 00:40:50,000
Speaker 3: asking her to dye her hair for a role, and

893
00:40:50,000 --> 00:40:51,359
Speaker 3: you're kind of just like, get over it.

894
00:40:51,520 --> 00:40:54,000
Speaker 2: Where I'm going to rippers to shreds is when she's

895
00:40:54,080 --> 00:40:57,040
Speaker 2: just like going on about how just like some actors

896
00:40:57,200 --> 00:40:59,720
Speaker 2: like get to go to the Manity Fair party earlier

897
00:41:00,200 --> 00:41:00,520
Speaker 2: kind of.

898
00:41:00,440 --> 00:41:02,200
Speaker 3: Like, well, I guess I would put that in the

899
00:41:02,200 --> 00:41:05,120
Speaker 3: category of it's almost tea. It is because it's like

900
00:41:05,160 --> 00:41:07,840
Speaker 3: people have a window they're supposed to arrive a true

901
00:41:08,000 --> 00:41:09,960
Speaker 3: so that they're not like backed up because they need

902
00:41:09,960 --> 00:41:11,680
Speaker 3: to take all their photos on the like red carbon

903
00:41:11,800 --> 00:41:12,200
Speaker 3: for the sign.

904
00:41:12,320 --> 00:41:14,840
Speaker 2: I guess she was being a little like, uh, like,

905
00:41:14,880 --> 00:41:17,000
Speaker 2: I love when she's being self deprecating with the friend's

906
00:41:17,000 --> 00:41:19,640
Speaker 2: Siegel story, but sometimes she's been like, what is my life?

907
00:41:19,719 --> 00:41:21,759
Speaker 2: I can't believe, Like this sucks. I have to get

908
00:41:21,800 --> 00:41:22,799
Speaker 2: to the oscar so early.

909
00:41:22,920 --> 00:41:24,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, I have to have like a six forty window,

910
00:41:24,680 --> 00:41:27,840
Speaker 3: and it's weird. No, you're right, it's like be grateful.

911
00:41:28,360 --> 00:41:30,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, sorry, lead with basically.

912
00:41:30,719 --> 00:41:32,520
Speaker 3: And then the other part that I thought was a

913
00:41:32,560 --> 00:41:34,759
Speaker 3: little bit weird and maybe speaks to why her career

914
00:41:34,800 --> 00:41:36,719
Speaker 3: is random, is that like later in the book, she's like,

915
00:41:37,680 --> 00:41:40,799
Speaker 3: you know after Gilmore Girls, like yes, like most of

916
00:41:40,800 --> 00:41:43,960
Speaker 3: the roles I was like getting offered were like for

917
00:41:44,080 --> 00:41:47,320
Speaker 3: other mom roles or like other like aunt roles or

918
00:41:47,360 --> 00:41:50,200
Speaker 3: best friend rolls, and like I would like to, like,

919
00:41:50,400 --> 00:41:52,600
Speaker 3: you know, step outside that a little bit. But then

920
00:41:52,640 --> 00:41:55,040
Speaker 3: I got like too many offers for roles that just

921
00:41:55,080 --> 00:41:58,680
Speaker 3: seemed like breaking bad sequels, like too much blood too

922
00:41:58,800 --> 00:42:01,360
Speaker 3: much murder, too much much Gore, I don't want to

923
00:42:01,400 --> 00:42:04,640
Speaker 3: be covered like in guts for a show. And you're

924
00:42:04,680 --> 00:42:07,320
Speaker 3: kind of like, why are you rejecting the opportunity to

925
00:42:07,400 --> 00:42:08,720
Speaker 3: do like a gritty thriller?

926
00:42:08,880 --> 00:42:11,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was random. I couldn't tell she was being like,

927
00:42:11,800 --> 00:42:14,279
Speaker 2: oh more making fun of the shows for trying to

928
00:42:14,400 --> 00:42:15,880
Speaker 2: rip off Breaking Bad.

929
00:42:16,360 --> 00:42:18,719
Speaker 3: I thought she was saying like, sorry, that's so not me.

930
00:42:18,840 --> 00:42:21,520
Speaker 3: I'm not gonna be in like a procedural like murder drama.

931
00:42:21,520 --> 00:42:23,120
Speaker 3: And it's kind of just like that.

932
00:42:23,440 --> 00:42:25,600
Speaker 2: Actually, just like why don't you be a fast talking

933
00:42:25,680 --> 00:42:27,880
Speaker 2: Laura Lai in a procedural.

934
00:42:27,600 --> 00:42:29,880
Speaker 3: Like a Debra Messine did it in that show.

935
00:42:30,320 --> 00:42:33,000
Speaker 2: Laura again, our favorite show show that.

936
00:42:33,000 --> 00:42:35,440
Speaker 3: Was The Sole canceled before it came on. But like

937
00:42:35,680 --> 00:42:38,320
Speaker 3: or be more Jessica Biale and like being insane thriller

938
00:42:38,400 --> 00:42:40,359
Speaker 3: called The Sinner that's like on effect that no one

939
00:42:40,360 --> 00:42:42,200
Speaker 3: has seen. And you're always being like, I'm so excited

940
00:42:42,200 --> 00:42:44,399
Speaker 3: for season three. It's like you think you're better than

941
00:42:44,480 --> 00:42:46,560
Speaker 3: Beale that you're not gonna do a gritty thriller.

942
00:42:46,719 --> 00:42:49,759
Speaker 2: Well it's insane. Just sidebar about that thrillers because you

943
00:42:49,800 --> 00:42:53,080
Speaker 2: know they remade like a more like elite version just

944
00:42:53,080 --> 00:42:54,759
Speaker 2: now in HBO that I was obsessed with.

945
00:42:55,040 --> 00:42:58,600
Speaker 3: We I did with Elizabeth Olsen without Beal? Yeah, they

946
00:42:58,600 --> 00:43:01,040
Speaker 3: were like, we need someone less Christian.

947
00:43:01,320 --> 00:43:03,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, anyway, the HBO version is good.

948
00:43:04,120 --> 00:43:05,640
Speaker 3: And you never saw the Bull version.

949
00:43:05,800 --> 00:43:09,640
Speaker 2: No, Maya watched the Bull version and I was like, no,

950
00:43:10,280 --> 00:43:11,680
Speaker 2: I wasn't watching it, being like I don't need to

951
00:43:11,680 --> 00:43:13,879
Speaker 2: watch this, but like, obviously I'm so like HBO pilled

952
00:43:13,920 --> 00:43:16,360
Speaker 2: and I was like, okay, I'll watch the version.

953
00:43:17,960 --> 00:43:18,280
Speaker 3: Dope.

954
00:43:18,440 --> 00:43:21,920
Speaker 2: And she's playing it like hotter than like Beal is.

955
00:43:22,239 --> 00:43:23,520
Speaker 2: Beal's playing is real.

956
00:43:23,880 --> 00:43:25,960
Speaker 3: She's like and I will say, like Jaylo is often

957
00:43:26,000 --> 00:43:27,719
Speaker 3: guilty of this as an actress, where it's kind of

958
00:43:27,800 --> 00:43:30,600
Speaker 3: like you think you're being gritty but you're still trying

959
00:43:30,640 --> 00:43:33,040
Speaker 3: to be too pretty and actually that makes you less

960
00:43:33,040 --> 00:43:35,799
Speaker 3: pretty than Elizabeth Olsen, who is being gritty but it's

961
00:43:35,800 --> 00:43:37,879
Speaker 3: actually being hot because she's being fucked.

962
00:43:37,640 --> 00:43:38,720
Speaker 2: Up gritty and hot.

963
00:43:38,840 --> 00:43:39,240
Speaker 3: Yeah.

964
00:43:39,360 --> 00:43:42,400
Speaker 2: Anyway, my dad thought Laurala I was really hot. He

965
00:43:42,480 --> 00:43:44,920
Speaker 2: once said, he said, very attractive.

966
00:43:47,480 --> 00:43:59,880
Speaker 3: And Lauren, you can take that to the banks segment.

967
00:44:00,719 --> 00:44:01,560
Speaker 3: What does she eat?

968
00:44:02,200 --> 00:44:03,760
Speaker 2: What does she wear? Anything in my clothes?

969
00:44:03,840 --> 00:44:05,960
Speaker 3: I guess? How does she live.

970
00:44:06,960 --> 00:44:08,560
Speaker 2: Okay, what does she eat?

971
00:44:08,719 --> 00:44:10,200
Speaker 3: Well, there's a part of the book where she does

972
00:44:10,360 --> 00:44:14,000
Speaker 3: mention always ordering salmon salads and chicken soup.

973
00:44:14,520 --> 00:44:17,400
Speaker 2: Yes, she's like nineties La.

974
00:44:16,880 --> 00:44:19,560
Speaker 3: And she was doing those like meals that every actress.

975
00:44:19,560 --> 00:44:22,640
Speaker 3: And she mentions Jennifer Anison's diet multiple times in this book.

976
00:44:22,680 --> 00:44:25,399
Speaker 2: That was so funny. So she talks about doing how

977
00:44:25,480 --> 00:44:29,520
Speaker 2: in the nineties everyone got basically like their zone diets

978
00:44:30,360 --> 00:44:33,920
Speaker 2: and now everyone does juice. And she's like, guess we're

979
00:44:33,920 --> 00:44:35,799
Speaker 2: all drinking juice because we have to get out the

980
00:44:35,840 --> 00:44:37,320
Speaker 2: toxins of our nineties.

981
00:44:37,400 --> 00:44:40,120
Speaker 3: Like, but there were still doing like factor in those

982
00:44:40,160 --> 00:44:41,560
Speaker 3: other pre manuals and.

983
00:44:41,440 --> 00:44:45,359
Speaker 2: Like wait more, almost tea she gave is that time

984
00:44:45,440 --> 00:44:46,960
Speaker 2: she said she went on a date with the guy

985
00:44:47,000 --> 00:44:51,200
Speaker 2: and he brought his like pre made plastic dinner a restaurant.

986
00:44:51,320 --> 00:44:53,279
Speaker 2: I had the restaurant heat it up from and put

987
00:44:53,280 --> 00:44:53,840
Speaker 2: it on a plate.

988
00:44:54,000 --> 00:44:54,200
Speaker 3: Yeah.

989
00:44:54,200 --> 00:44:58,640
Speaker 2: Oh that's mortifying, So La, Yeah, so New Yorker getting

990
00:44:58,680 --> 00:45:00,080
Speaker 2: to La being like, you're kid.

991
00:45:00,280 --> 00:45:02,800
Speaker 3: Right, You've got to be kidding me. Oh, that's a

992
00:45:02,880 --> 00:45:03,440
Speaker 3: red flag.

993
00:45:03,640 --> 00:45:05,120
Speaker 2: And then at the end of the book, she's being

994
00:45:05,280 --> 00:45:07,400
Speaker 2: very pandemic and just being like I want to come

995
00:45:07,440 --> 00:45:09,600
Speaker 2: out with a marmalade line and then being like, wait,

996
00:45:09,640 --> 00:45:10,280
Speaker 2: this is hard.

997
00:45:10,440 --> 00:45:13,399
Speaker 3: Yeah, so she's being sour dough. But I also think that, yeah,

998
00:45:13,400 --> 00:45:16,720
Speaker 3: maybe she's still addicted to Jennifer Anison and she's doing

999
00:45:16,760 --> 00:45:20,680
Speaker 3: like the viral TikTok Jennifer Andison friend salad. But like

1000
00:45:20,719 --> 00:45:23,280
Speaker 3: I've seen ten different versions on TikTok of like girls

1001
00:45:23,280 --> 00:45:25,160
Speaker 3: just be like, so this is the viral salad that

1002
00:45:25,200 --> 00:45:27,600
Speaker 3: Jennifer Andison ate on the set of Friends every single

1003
00:45:27,640 --> 00:45:29,279
Speaker 3: day for six years and it's what kept her. Then

1004
00:45:29,480 --> 00:45:32,640
Speaker 3: let's make it. And like there's like seven different versions

1005
00:45:32,680 --> 00:45:35,919
Speaker 3: and they're all just like chickpeas, lettuce onions, like another

1006
00:45:35,960 --> 00:45:40,839
Speaker 3: one's just like feta like lettuce leon. It's like kind

1007
00:45:40,880 --> 00:45:44,600
Speaker 3: of a three normal ass like kind of Greek salad

1008
00:45:45,239 --> 00:45:47,160
Speaker 3: is the vie. So I do feel like she's making that.

1009
00:45:47,239 --> 00:45:49,920
Speaker 2: She's making that, and she says, and here Jennifer Aniston

1010
00:45:50,120 --> 00:45:53,920
Speaker 2: supposedly like smoked weed that didn't give you munch cheese.

1011
00:45:54,880 --> 00:45:58,360
Speaker 2: Jennifer Aniston is a famous stoner, a rumor I like

1012
00:45:58,400 --> 00:46:01,719
Speaker 2: to find that weed. It's kind I hardly smoke, man.

1013
00:46:02,239 --> 00:46:04,480
Speaker 3: Oh fucked up, because then she's.

1014
00:46:04,320 --> 00:46:05,520
Speaker 2: Get me too. Good.

1015
00:46:06,719 --> 00:46:06,879
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1016
00:46:07,120 --> 00:46:07,560
Speaker 2: Serious.

1017
00:46:08,880 --> 00:46:10,120
Speaker 3: Have you tried CBD?

1018
00:46:10,560 --> 00:46:14,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, I actually have No, I'm actually into CBD like

1019
00:46:14,120 --> 00:46:16,759
Speaker 2: a half. I've actually been doing these half CBD half

1020
00:46:16,800 --> 00:46:20,080
Speaker 2: thhc Gummy is that friend of the pod and guess

1021
00:46:20,120 --> 00:46:21,880
Speaker 2: of the pod Madeline Finney sent to me.

1022
00:46:22,239 --> 00:46:25,080
Speaker 3: Oh that's cool that she sent you gummies as well

1023
00:46:25,400 --> 00:46:27,400
Speaker 3: as an influence, but then you never influenced.

1024
00:46:27,440 --> 00:46:30,240
Speaker 2: She never kind of like proceeded with the influencing.

1025
00:46:30,760 --> 00:46:32,279
Speaker 3: And you guys, if you guys want to use code

1026
00:46:32,320 --> 00:46:36,040
Speaker 3: CBC the pod at microgummy dot nap for a two

1027
00:46:36,400 --> 00:46:37,760
Speaker 3: percent mark up, feel free.

1028
00:46:37,960 --> 00:46:40,760
Speaker 2: Okay, So Salamon salads is Jennifer Amiston salads. It's sushi

1029
00:46:40,800 --> 00:46:44,400
Speaker 2: with the gals. How does she live? She mentions French

1030
00:46:44,560 --> 00:46:46,000
Speaker 2: doors in her house.

1031
00:46:46,440 --> 00:46:49,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm picturing Terry Hatter's house in Desperate Housewives.

1032
00:46:50,000 --> 00:46:51,680
Speaker 2: M but more Buddha.

1033
00:46:52,440 --> 00:46:54,960
Speaker 3: Yeah. But also I think that Terry Hatter is Buddha,

1034
00:46:55,000 --> 00:46:56,799
Speaker 3: and even in the Housewives, maybe in the.

1035
00:46:56,760 --> 00:46:58,759
Speaker 2: Proper yard Buddha in the backyard.

1036
00:46:59,239 --> 00:47:02,000
Speaker 3: And I think it's creams and neutrals and like some

1037
00:47:02,040 --> 00:47:04,160
Speaker 3: weird patterns, like there's a paisley pillow there.

1038
00:47:04,200 --> 00:47:06,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's kind of comfy.

1039
00:47:06,719 --> 00:47:10,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it's not maybe as comfy as you think. Wow,

1040
00:47:10,280 --> 00:47:12,080
Speaker 3: I think it's gonna be a little bit more formal

1041
00:47:12,160 --> 00:47:14,000
Speaker 3: than you think. And it's kind of weird, oh.

1042
00:47:13,920 --> 00:47:17,000
Speaker 2: Like awkwardly it's actually the Grandma from Gilmore ger.

1043
00:47:17,040 --> 00:47:26,360
Speaker 3: Or maybe there's like too many mirrors.

1044
00:47:22,520 --> 00:47:24,880
Speaker 2: Not this wholeway of mirrors.

1045
00:47:25,320 --> 00:47:27,640
Speaker 3: In like kind of a gam like nineties. Wait, you

1046
00:47:27,680 --> 00:47:29,640
Speaker 3: know when like a mirror has like too many like fashions.

1047
00:47:29,640 --> 00:47:31,879
Speaker 2: She definitely like hired at some point a friend who's

1048
00:47:31,960 --> 00:47:34,239
Speaker 2: into your designer, because I feel like she so like

1049
00:47:34,400 --> 00:47:36,239
Speaker 2: has a house and is like I don't know what

1050
00:47:36,320 --> 00:47:37,040
Speaker 2: to do in here.

1051
00:47:37,600 --> 00:47:40,279
Speaker 3: She the gay best friend, she meant it, just.

1052
00:47:40,200 --> 00:47:42,319
Speaker 2: Like how she has all these friends named Jen. She

1053
00:47:42,400 --> 00:47:46,280
Speaker 2: seems way more like girl it's May Whitman, it's Jens.

1054
00:47:47,239 --> 00:47:49,640
Speaker 3: So girl, she doesn't even have a gay Yeah, she's

1055
00:47:49,680 --> 00:47:53,279
Speaker 3: so nineties and just like one in the book when

1056
00:47:53,320 --> 00:47:56,880
Speaker 3: she was like there's some like grabby pants mix like

1057
00:47:57,280 --> 00:48:00,520
Speaker 3: mcblorg Mike blorg make late for the oscars where she's

1058
00:48:00,600 --> 00:48:03,719
Speaker 3: like and feel free to use that as your drag name.

1059
00:48:05,040 --> 00:48:08,680
Speaker 2: I think I think she is the girl who like

1060
00:48:09,280 --> 00:48:11,759
Speaker 2: I think one of her gens is bringing over her

1061
00:48:11,880 --> 00:48:16,440
Speaker 2: Kay to like her la home, and she is like

1062
00:48:16,560 --> 00:48:19,520
Speaker 2: laughing so much with him, but is like not making

1063
00:48:19,560 --> 00:48:21,560
Speaker 2: the call to like text him for them to have

1064
00:48:21,640 --> 00:48:22,160
Speaker 2: solo luck.

1065
00:48:22,280 --> 00:48:25,399
Speaker 3: She thought that Ryan was really funny when he came

1066
00:48:25,440 --> 00:48:27,720
Speaker 3: over for Cinnamon Margarita's.

1067
00:48:28,160 --> 00:48:31,360
Speaker 2: And they like all watched May Whitman's show with Reddo

1068
00:48:31,760 --> 00:48:32,280
Speaker 2: I Love.

1069
00:48:34,000 --> 00:48:36,120
Speaker 3: They were like we're gonna do weekly viewings of Good

1070
00:48:36,200 --> 00:48:39,279
Speaker 3: Girls and that after three weeks, like everyone.

1071
00:48:39,040 --> 00:48:42,640
Speaker 2: Was everywhere and holidays, it was crazy. Okay, she just

1072
00:48:42,719 --> 00:48:45,480
Speaker 2: mentions these boyfriends and just like I had a feeling

1073
00:48:45,520 --> 00:48:46,920
Speaker 2: my relationship was ending.

1074
00:48:47,480 --> 00:48:50,200
Speaker 3: Do you think she's high bed chest?

1075
00:48:50,560 --> 00:48:57,160
Speaker 2: Like yeah, chest, big bed? Is this crazy to say?

1076
00:48:57,200 --> 00:48:59,439
Speaker 2: Like four post four post or bed?

1077
00:49:00,040 --> 00:49:01,000
Speaker 3: He get out of my head.

1078
00:49:01,719 --> 00:49:03,239
Speaker 2: I maybe we're just saying this because it's like the

1079
00:49:03,360 --> 00:49:05,240
Speaker 2: More Girls of Sully Connecticut coded.

1080
00:49:05,640 --> 00:49:08,239
Speaker 3: But I don't think it's as Connecticut as No More

1081
00:49:08,280 --> 00:49:08,799
Speaker 3: Girls is.

1082
00:49:09,160 --> 00:49:12,560
Speaker 2: But because I think because I think she walks out

1083
00:49:12,600 --> 00:49:14,400
Speaker 2: into her garden with the boot with the mug and

1084
00:49:14,560 --> 00:49:21,720
Speaker 2: is like it has you know those like wiiry lawn chairs, SIPs.

1085
00:49:21,400 --> 00:49:24,800
Speaker 3: Tea after you drop that bombshell, you know those wiry

1086
00:49:24,920 --> 00:49:28,520
Speaker 3: long chairs. Yeah, I said it, Yeah she has them.

1087
00:49:29,440 --> 00:49:33,680
Speaker 2: Damn shots fired absolute shots fired.

1088
00:49:33,760 --> 00:49:35,840
Speaker 3: I actually don't know what okay.

1089
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Speaker 2: And it's like a cast vote of her and Josh

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Speaker 2: t Mel like from Oh No, it's the script she

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Speaker 2: directed framed from her Mighty.

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Speaker 3: Dog from Disney Plus Mighty Duck season two, Yeah, directed

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Speaker 3: by Lauren Graham.

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Speaker 2: She where she like has a stand date, well, she

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00:49:54,400 --> 00:49:57,719
Speaker 2: used to have a standing Barney's date with like her sister, And.

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Speaker 3: I love that she's like talks about how it's like

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00:49:59,520 --> 00:50:02,840
Speaker 3: when she was most famous, like probably season three Gilmore Girls,

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00:50:03,239 --> 00:50:06,480
Speaker 3: she was like getting coerced by like the big Hollywood

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Speaker 3: machine into getting like the hottest bag at Fretzega or whatever,

1100
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Speaker 3: or Barney is that orange bag. And she's like later

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Speaker 3: in my career, like I understood what to look for

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00:50:14,800 --> 00:50:16,799
Speaker 3: at Barney, So I feel like she's just getting kind

1103
00:50:16,840 --> 00:50:19,160
Speaker 3: of the most boring normal stuff at Barney. She's getting

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00:50:19,200 --> 00:50:21,920
Speaker 3: like a cropped leather or jacket. She gets like a

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00:50:21,920 --> 00:50:23,960
Speaker 3: crossbody Wi cell bag, So she's getting kind of like

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00:50:24,200 --> 00:50:26,640
Speaker 3: nicer stuff. And I do think she's being like black

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00:50:26,840 --> 00:50:32,040
Speaker 3: is luxury, leather is luxury. Cash yes, cashme. She's like

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00:50:32,360 --> 00:50:34,640
Speaker 3: my mother never told me, but like get a good

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00:50:34,680 --> 00:50:37,000
Speaker 3: cashmere sweater, like a good. So it's like she's been like,

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Speaker 3: that's what you just spend your money on.

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00:50:38,520 --> 00:50:43,120
Speaker 2: And it's like a good pair of jeans that fit, yes,

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00:50:43,480 --> 00:50:45,720
Speaker 2: very paper down, and she's like, you wear them around

1113
00:50:45,760 --> 00:50:50,279
Speaker 2: and they feel good. Good boots, sexy good boots, but

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00:50:50,280 --> 00:50:51,360
Speaker 2: they're not too tall.

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Speaker 3: No, she's not doing a full writing boot, but she

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00:50:54,280 --> 00:50:57,759
Speaker 3: is tucking her jeans into a mid calf like sely

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Speaker 3: below mid calf.

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Speaker 2: Right, and pumpkins stuff.

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00:51:01,200 --> 00:51:02,680
Speaker 3: She's putty pumpkins in there too.

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Speaker 2: And then like shaggy, comfy, yumpy beanie.

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Speaker 3: Okay, I feel like that's more gilmore girls than her,

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00:51:09,600 --> 00:51:10,480
Speaker 3: but that's also her.

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Speaker 2: That is when she comes to New York. But now

1124
00:51:12,800 --> 00:51:14,080
Speaker 2: she's letting the locks flow.

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Speaker 3: Do you think she has one of those kind of

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00:51:15,960 --> 00:51:17,520
Speaker 3: like train conductory huts?

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00:51:17,640 --> 00:51:23,560
Speaker 2: Yes, cates Okay, hairstyles Cat from Yesterday.

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Speaker 3: Actress, Yeah, Brunette.

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Speaker 2: Brunette actresses sunglasses, train.

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Speaker 3: Hat done.

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Speaker 2: In the book. So many people it's like, are you

1132
00:51:35,760 --> 00:51:38,880
Speaker 2: Josh new mel Amighty Ducks? Are you her dad's friend?

1133
00:51:39,120 --> 00:51:41,080
Speaker 2: Are you her? Are you Blorg?

1134
00:51:43,760 --> 00:51:44,239
Speaker 3: Are you?

1135
00:51:44,360 --> 00:51:46,960
Speaker 2: Like the executive assistants who are like being like, oh

1136
00:51:46,960 --> 00:51:49,480
Speaker 2: my god, I love this movie you're writing about Boston.

1137
00:51:49,640 --> 00:51:53,200
Speaker 3: Are you the intern who brings a tray of drinks

1138
00:51:53,280 --> 00:51:58,399
Speaker 3: backstage at Was it Letterman or was it someone else?

1139
00:51:58,640 --> 00:52:01,720
Speaker 3: Was it Fallon? And then like she was like some

1140
00:52:01,960 --> 00:52:05,319
Speaker 3: like lesbian Pia Gamen with drinks. And then she was

1141
00:52:05,360 --> 00:52:08,280
Speaker 3: like because back in the old days and the Johnny

1142
00:52:08,320 --> 00:52:11,440
Speaker 3: Carson days, people were being so don draper And.

1143
00:52:11,440 --> 00:52:13,360
Speaker 2: She's like, oh, that was that part of it.

1144
00:52:13,440 --> 00:52:16,120
Speaker 3: But you know what, I didn't in bibe but Martini

1145
00:52:16,160 --> 00:52:18,279
Speaker 3: before I went on because I wanted to have all

1146
00:52:18,280 --> 00:52:19,560
Speaker 3: my wits about.

1147
00:52:19,280 --> 00:52:22,400
Speaker 2: Me well, because she's very like and I haven't inhaled

1148
00:52:22,560 --> 00:52:25,880
Speaker 2: any of the fluffy stuff like in a while. But

1149
00:52:25,960 --> 00:52:28,680
Speaker 2: then says she ate some of me like weed cookies

1150
00:52:28,719 --> 00:52:31,000
Speaker 2: and Amsterdam with her friend like Kathy No.

1151
00:52:31,040 --> 00:52:33,799
Speaker 3: Her friend Jen Jen one of her twenty gens. I

1152
00:52:33,800 --> 00:52:35,000
Speaker 3: got one of the.

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Speaker 2: Twenty twenty gens hashtag one of the twenty gens donate

1154
00:52:38,920 --> 00:52:40,080
Speaker 2: here on Giving Tuesday.

1155
00:52:40,400 --> 00:52:42,799
Speaker 3: No, we're some of the gens and we're just being like, oh,

1156
00:52:42,840 --> 00:52:46,520
Speaker 3: are you going to Laurence like fiftieth in Vancouver, And

1157
00:52:46,560 --> 00:52:49,320
Speaker 3: we're all just like, no, I'm going. I'm going, like

1158
00:52:49,320 --> 00:52:51,440
Speaker 3: should we room together? And You're like and I'm like

1159
00:52:51,760 --> 00:52:53,839
Speaker 3: I actually kind of already got myself hotel. It's fine,

1160
00:52:53,840 --> 00:52:55,480
Speaker 3: but like whatever, you should just go to a hotel room.

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Speaker 2: We're certainly not her like weird rescue pup Mochi.

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00:52:58,960 --> 00:53:00,640
Speaker 3: No, the book got so bored and then so getting

1163
00:53:00,680 --> 00:53:05,719
Speaker 3: into reading, like I.

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Speaker 2: Do love her, but this book is like giving a

1165
00:53:08,800 --> 00:53:11,680
Speaker 2: little two point a pumpkin spices, like it's kind of

1166
00:53:11,680 --> 00:53:13,760
Speaker 2: a fast read, and like it kind of like should

1167
00:53:13,800 --> 00:53:15,880
Speaker 2: be funnier than it is in this way, but then

1168
00:53:15,920 --> 00:53:17,960
Speaker 2: there is there are really funny.

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Speaker 3: Given book, like a three point six ultimately three point

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Speaker 3: six backwards caps on a barista, so not quite a

1171
00:53:27,200 --> 00:53:30,200
Speaker 3: three point one, okay. And here's why. It's because I

1172
00:53:30,239 --> 00:53:33,600
Speaker 3: actually did appreciate the tea on like waiting in line

1173
00:53:33,600 --> 00:53:36,680
Speaker 3: to get into the Vanity Fair party, and I appreciated

1174
00:53:36,760 --> 00:53:39,040
Speaker 3: kid Man having her own makeup artist that she books

1175
00:53:39,080 --> 00:53:41,840
Speaker 3: for the year, and like when Stefani shopping at fred Siegel,

1176
00:53:41,880 --> 00:53:43,840
Speaker 3: and there's like an honesty there that I thought was great.

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Speaker 3: I'm a little bit like why this book did not

1178
00:53:46,520 --> 00:53:48,879
Speaker 3: need to be written, Like I think I.

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Speaker 2: Come away from this being like I bet I would

1180
00:53:50,840 --> 00:53:53,839
Speaker 2: have loved her first book of essays better, maybe because

1181
00:53:53,880 --> 00:53:55,560
Speaker 2: the title of this book is literally how I told

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00:53:55,600 --> 00:53:56,200
Speaker 2: you this before?

1183
00:53:56,400 --> 00:53:59,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, No, I mean she's admitting that the book is

1184
00:53:59,160 --> 00:54:01,480
Speaker 3: a little bit like maybe this is a story you've

1185
00:54:01,520 --> 00:54:02,760
Speaker 3: heard and it's kind of whatever.

1186
00:54:03,160 --> 00:54:05,359
Speaker 2: But then like kind of time the part where I'm like, well,

1187
00:54:05,400 --> 00:54:07,080
Speaker 2: I just do love your life as kind of like

1188
00:54:07,120 --> 00:54:09,440
Speaker 2: a TV actress who our friend loves, but like you're

1189
00:54:09,480 --> 00:54:13,839
Speaker 2: not insanely famous, completely insane. She recorded the audiobook at

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Speaker 2: CDM Studios.

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00:54:15,640 --> 00:54:18,040
Speaker 3: Wait what Yeah, the one that we go to when

1192
00:54:18,080 --> 00:54:18,640
Speaker 3: we're not here.

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00:54:18,840 --> 00:54:19,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, is that insane?

1194
00:54:20,200 --> 00:54:22,160
Speaker 3: That's insane? Okay, So for those of you who don't know,

1195
00:54:22,239 --> 00:54:25,640
Speaker 3: we recorded the Melissa E. Threage episode at that studio,

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00:54:25,920 --> 00:54:28,120
Speaker 3: So if you listen to Lauren Graham's audio in the

1197
00:54:28,160 --> 00:54:30,439
Speaker 3: same place and then listen to that, you'll probably notice

1198
00:54:30,440 --> 00:54:31,920
Speaker 3: really similar acoustics. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: So anyway, we love you, Lauren, and like coffee please

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00:54:36,440 --> 00:54:37,040
Speaker 2: now I'm.

1201
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Speaker 3: Obsessed with you. Yeah, and inject this book into my

1202
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Speaker 3: veins please.

1203
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Speaker 2: Fast.

1204
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Speaker 3: This episode of our podcast, wait are we doing a podcast?

1205
00:54:51,840 --> 00:54:55,600
Speaker 3: Yes we are? Was produced by none other than Derby Masters,

1206
00:54:55,600 --> 00:55:00,400
Speaker 3: who I could absolutely not live without. She's basically like

1207
00:55:00,719 --> 00:55:05,520
Speaker 3: my guardian angel and the principle of the best middle

1208
00:55:05,520 --> 00:55:08,359
Speaker 3: school you've ever been to while rolled into one. Our

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Speaker 3: supervising producer is a Booza far. If he was single,

1210
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Speaker 3: i'd let you know, ladies. Unfortunately he's not, but he's

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Speaker 3: still super kind and he makes an amazing cup of coffee,

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Speaker 3: which I'm going to need after this because I'm already exhausted.

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Speaker 3: Our executive producer is Christina Everett, who's I don't know,

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Speaker 3: one of the smartiest, smartiest Okay, yeah, I can't speak

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Speaker 3: because I've been recording a podcast for an hour. Can

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Speaker 3: you tell one of the smartest, funniest people that I've

1217
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Speaker 3: ever met? And if anyone ever deserves to win a

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Speaker 3: Golden Globe for podcasting, it's Our theme song was produced, sung,

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Speaker 3: and written by steamflob Sorts because I guess he's a

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Speaker 3: multi hyphen it, which is what my agent calls people

1221
00:55:52,160 --> 00:55:55,239
Speaker 3: who are more talented than me. Okay, stop rubbing it in.

1222
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Speaker 3: Our podcast was originally created by Prologue Projects, because yes,

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00:56:00,000 --> 00:56:03,239
Speaker 3: everything has an origin story. If you'd like to know

1224
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Speaker 3: more about our podcast, because while you're listening to it,

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Speaker 3: go to patroon dot com, slash CBC the pod and yeah,

1226
00:56:08,760 --> 00:56:12,520
Speaker 3: you can subscribe. Please give money for the poor many

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Speaker 3: to those who need it. Because yeah, Hi, I want

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Speaker 3: to go on vacation this year, so buy a T shirt.