1 00:00:01,240 --> 00:00:08,640 Speaker 1: The volume. Yo, yo, yo, what's going on? It's going on, 2 00:00:08,720 --> 00:00:11,160 Speaker 1: make some noise. He see arena Club five twenty. What's 3 00:00:11,160 --> 00:00:14,560 Speaker 1: going on out here? First time in the YA area. 4 00:00:14,600 --> 00:00:17,200 Speaker 1: Appreciate the love San Francisco being holding down out here. 5 00:00:17,320 --> 00:00:19,360 Speaker 1: You know what it is? Club five to twenty podcast 6 00:00:19,760 --> 00:00:22,040 Speaker 1: Live in Hennessy Arena. I'm the host. My name is 7 00:00:22,120 --> 00:00:24,360 Speaker 1: DJ Wells. We got a special guest. We got a legend. 8 00:00:24,400 --> 00:00:26,520 Speaker 1: To my far left, we gonna introduce my man's lest 9 00:00:26,680 --> 00:00:29,080 Speaker 1: but to my far left, got my dog Bishop be 10 00:00:29,160 --> 00:00:30,319 Speaker 1: hearing out the Pearly shift. 11 00:00:30,360 --> 00:00:31,320 Speaker 2: How you would man. 12 00:00:31,360 --> 00:00:33,080 Speaker 3: Cool and nation less pop baby. 13 00:00:33,200 --> 00:00:35,400 Speaker 1: You know, normally my man's got on the Black forces 14 00:00:35,400 --> 00:00:36,640 Speaker 1: with the white laces. You know what I'm saying. He 15 00:00:36,680 --> 00:00:38,159 Speaker 1: switched it up because you know, on the road. But 16 00:00:38,159 --> 00:00:39,519 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, you gotta bring the staples out. 17 00:00:39,600 --> 00:00:41,120 Speaker 1: Let the people know how you were from the city. Man. 18 00:00:41,200 --> 00:00:42,920 Speaker 4: Nah, we're gonna get beat the appraial what you was 19 00:00:42,920 --> 00:00:45,360 Speaker 4: about thirteen fourteen. 20 00:00:45,479 --> 00:00:48,360 Speaker 1: You are with the Black forces, be there and the 21 00:00:48,360 --> 00:00:51,240 Speaker 1: contract want to respect? Okay, Yeah, we gonna were gonna 22 00:00:51,240 --> 00:00:51,599 Speaker 1: get you some. 23 00:00:51,520 --> 00:00:53,440 Speaker 3: Black force forces with the white laces. I'm gonna get 24 00:00:53,440 --> 00:00:53,840 Speaker 3: you together. 25 00:00:54,200 --> 00:00:56,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, you gotta, you gotta per form. You live, you live, 26 00:00:56,960 --> 00:00:59,320 Speaker 2: my dog. To my right, young Nacho, Young Tea, You what. 27 00:00:59,480 --> 00:01:02,000 Speaker 1: Man, I'm good man, chilling bro. Happy to be here 28 00:01:02,000 --> 00:01:04,680 Speaker 1: with a legend, one of my favorite players growing up. 29 00:01:04,680 --> 00:01:07,280 Speaker 1: You know I have four favorite players. It was Jay Will, 30 00:01:08,360 --> 00:01:10,959 Speaker 1: Alan Iverson, Beatty, and Gilbert Arena. So this is it 31 00:01:11,040 --> 00:01:13,559 Speaker 1: means a lot to me. Right here for sure for show. 32 00:01:13,600 --> 00:01:15,040 Speaker 1: But to my left, we got a legend. You know 33 00:01:15,080 --> 00:01:17,040 Speaker 1: what I'm saying, the man who went crazy, one of 34 00:01:17,080 --> 00:01:19,199 Speaker 1: the reason why this wonderful fan base for this team 35 00:01:19,319 --> 00:01:22,080 Speaker 1: is even available to cheer for this team or Hooper 36 00:01:22,240 --> 00:01:24,720 Speaker 1: creative Andy Y also making music. We got the doll 37 00:01:24,840 --> 00:01:26,960 Speaker 1: Baron Davis, a legend from California. And to Bill and 38 00:01:27,000 --> 00:01:29,039 Speaker 1: appreciate you pull it out the five twenty Big Dog 39 00:01:29,360 --> 00:01:30,280 Speaker 1: Show for show. 40 00:01:30,319 --> 00:01:33,560 Speaker 5: This ship, this shit is on by twenty years up. Yeah, 41 00:01:33,560 --> 00:01:35,480 Speaker 5: I got Yeah, I got the I got the pie. Yeah, 42 00:01:35,480 --> 00:01:36,720 Speaker 5: I got the convos cracking. 43 00:01:37,080 --> 00:01:39,880 Speaker 1: Appreciate, appreciate the show man, appreciate you already started to 44 00:01:39,920 --> 00:01:40,959 Speaker 1: showing an interesting question. 45 00:01:41,240 --> 00:01:42,560 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. We know what you did 46 00:01:43,080 --> 00:01:44,120 Speaker 2: that and that Warriors Jersey. 47 00:01:44,120 --> 00:01:46,000 Speaker 1: But before you got there, you had one of the 48 00:01:46,040 --> 00:01:48,800 Speaker 1: best jerseys of all time. The people know in the hood, 49 00:01:48,840 --> 00:01:52,800 Speaker 1: it's like that Mike Vic jersey, that number one Charlotte jersey. Yeah, 50 00:01:53,280 --> 00:01:55,320 Speaker 1: we want to talk about that time before you came 51 00:01:55,400 --> 00:01:57,440 Speaker 1: here and did your thing here, because that's a very 52 00:01:57,480 --> 00:01:59,680 Speaker 1: important time in basketball and people don't know about don't 53 00:01:59,680 --> 00:02:02,280 Speaker 1: speaking enough about you coming out in the draft going 54 00:02:02,320 --> 00:02:03,120 Speaker 1: crazy like that. 55 00:02:03,360 --> 00:02:06,800 Speaker 5: Yeah, it was, Uh, it was wild, you know because 56 00:02:06,840 --> 00:02:11,080 Speaker 5: I'm from LA born and raised and I never had 57 00:02:11,320 --> 00:02:15,160 Speaker 5: my own room, right, so growing up I slept in 58 00:02:15,240 --> 00:02:16,240 Speaker 5: the living room. 59 00:02:16,680 --> 00:02:18,160 Speaker 3: Then I'm like, all right, I get to. 60 00:02:18,160 --> 00:02:21,400 Speaker 5: College and may UCLA man Earl Watson my roommate, so 61 00:02:21,440 --> 00:02:24,480 Speaker 5: we got to share a room. And when I got 62 00:02:24,480 --> 00:02:27,080 Speaker 5: to Charlotte, that was my first time like having something 63 00:02:27,120 --> 00:02:30,120 Speaker 5: by myself. And so I always say Charlotte was a 64 00:02:30,120 --> 00:02:33,760 Speaker 5: Bible Belt. It was like the perfect place for me 65 00:02:33,880 --> 00:02:36,840 Speaker 5: to go coming from LA going into the league at 66 00:02:36,840 --> 00:02:37,960 Speaker 5: that time, you. 67 00:02:37,919 --> 00:02:38,440 Speaker 3: Know what I mean. 68 00:02:39,240 --> 00:02:41,799 Speaker 5: And it was like, damn, dude, it ain't really nothing 69 00:02:41,800 --> 00:02:45,040 Speaker 5: to do here, but who go to the gym, go 70 00:02:45,120 --> 00:02:47,640 Speaker 5: to the mall, go to the movies. So I go 71 00:02:47,680 --> 00:02:51,080 Speaker 5: to the movies like three four times a day because 72 00:02:51,080 --> 00:02:51,840 Speaker 5: I want shit to do. 73 00:02:52,240 --> 00:02:52,840 Speaker 3: You know what I mean. 74 00:02:52,960 --> 00:02:55,880 Speaker 2: Change now. It's crazy now, Charlotte. 75 00:02:56,120 --> 00:02:59,560 Speaker 5: I wish it was like it was now back then, 76 00:02:59,639 --> 00:03:02,520 Speaker 5: you know, because it's cracking down. But you know, just 77 00:03:02,560 --> 00:03:04,880 Speaker 5: being on that team, you know, you got Anthony Mason, 78 00:03:04,919 --> 00:03:07,799 Speaker 5: Derek Coleman, Elden Campbell, it was like a big man league. 79 00:03:08,520 --> 00:03:08,880 Speaker 3: Come out. 80 00:03:08,919 --> 00:03:10,640 Speaker 5: You got to throw the ball in, you know, got 81 00:03:10,680 --> 00:03:12,680 Speaker 5: to throw the ball in the post to start the game. 82 00:03:12,840 --> 00:03:16,480 Speaker 5: Everything happened in the post, slow down basketball. And I 83 00:03:16,520 --> 00:03:18,400 Speaker 5: came off the bench my rookie year, I was. 84 00:03:18,400 --> 00:03:21,359 Speaker 3: A third pick. I was a third pick. I came 85 00:03:21,440 --> 00:03:22,120 Speaker 3: off the bench. 86 00:03:23,200 --> 00:03:27,440 Speaker 5: That's because Silos was a coach and he was like 87 00:03:27,800 --> 00:03:30,160 Speaker 5: I mean, back then, it was a thing where no 88 00:03:30,200 --> 00:03:33,200 Speaker 5: matter where you were as a rookie, like coaches didn't 89 00:03:33,200 --> 00:03:36,400 Speaker 5: play rookies, and like that was we were just getting 90 00:03:36,480 --> 00:03:40,080 Speaker 5: into like high pick franchise players starting. You only had 91 00:03:40,120 --> 00:03:42,280 Speaker 5: a few, you know what I mean. Kobe came off 92 00:03:42,280 --> 00:03:44,600 Speaker 5: the bench, you know what I'm saying. So it was 93 00:03:44,640 --> 00:03:47,560 Speaker 5: just a time of like the older era. It was 94 00:03:47,560 --> 00:03:49,720 Speaker 5: like a transition era. But for me, it was like 95 00:03:50,680 --> 00:03:53,440 Speaker 5: an opportunity to like start being a man, you know 96 00:03:53,480 --> 00:03:56,200 Speaker 5: what I mean. But also it was humbling because I 97 00:03:56,280 --> 00:03:59,040 Speaker 5: was playing like Don was playing nineteen minutes a game. 98 00:04:00,160 --> 00:04:04,240 Speaker 5: No more than that shit. I wish nineteen minutes a game, Dog, 99 00:04:04,280 --> 00:04:07,360 Speaker 5: And I'm just sitting there like hot. You're watching Iverson 100 00:04:07,480 --> 00:04:10,520 Speaker 5: go off. You watch Jason Terry go off, Andre Miller. 101 00:04:10,840 --> 00:04:13,280 Speaker 5: I didn't make the rookie game. It was actually here, 102 00:04:13,720 --> 00:04:16,880 Speaker 5: the rookie sophomore game. Rookie sophomore game was here, and 103 00:04:16,960 --> 00:04:19,440 Speaker 5: I missed that shit. And I just remember sitting that home, 104 00:04:19,560 --> 00:04:22,159 Speaker 5: like dog. I will never miss another one of these, 105 00:04:22,320 --> 00:04:25,720 Speaker 5: you know what I mean, all Star weekends. And then 106 00:04:26,120 --> 00:04:28,919 Speaker 5: it helped me work on my game though, you know, 107 00:04:28,960 --> 00:04:30,880 Speaker 5: because back then you have to like pass the ball on. 108 00:04:30,800 --> 00:04:35,600 Speaker 3: The post spot up and shoot. That was it, bro. 109 00:04:35,680 --> 00:04:37,920 Speaker 3: If you play passaball on the post cut through. 110 00:04:38,240 --> 00:04:42,479 Speaker 1: You know, I played with Joe Johnson. You know I 111 00:04:42,560 --> 00:04:46,000 Speaker 1: read straight to the corner, and that's just bad. It's 112 00:04:46,040 --> 00:04:47,560 Speaker 1: interesting to say that I was gonna say this play, 113 00:04:47,640 --> 00:04:49,840 Speaker 1: but like you said, that time period, obviously you and 114 00:04:49,920 --> 00:04:52,800 Speaker 1: Kobe both had to sit behind Eddie Jones and start 115 00:04:52,800 --> 00:04:55,680 Speaker 1: off your stuff. How is it now seeing guards come 116 00:04:55,680 --> 00:04:57,760 Speaker 1: into the league now and getting keys the franchises, and 117 00:04:57,800 --> 00:05:00,320 Speaker 1: now you got a league where guards are encouraged score 118 00:05:00,920 --> 00:05:03,279 Speaker 1: like to see your game, especially like your game, Like 119 00:05:03,760 --> 00:05:06,160 Speaker 1: how y'all would have fit now coming into the league, 120 00:05:06,200 --> 00:05:07,640 Speaker 1: having the keys do whatever you want to. 121 00:05:09,520 --> 00:05:10,440 Speaker 3: Man, shit. 122 00:05:12,400 --> 00:05:16,279 Speaker 5: Be crazy, right, it'll be crazy. It'll be crazy, you 123 00:05:16,320 --> 00:05:19,359 Speaker 5: know it would for me. I think I would have 124 00:05:19,360 --> 00:05:22,919 Speaker 5: had a different mentality coming into the league because coming 125 00:05:22,960 --> 00:05:24,720 Speaker 5: in at that time, it was like you got to 126 00:05:24,760 --> 00:05:28,800 Speaker 5: be the best traditional point guard you could, so no 127 00:05:28,839 --> 00:05:31,440 Speaker 5: matter what I could do, dunk all that other shit, 128 00:05:31,600 --> 00:05:34,640 Speaker 5: you know, pass like they just wanted you to like 129 00:05:35,400 --> 00:05:39,760 Speaker 5: play basketball fundamentally sound, don't turn the ball over, bring 130 00:05:39,760 --> 00:05:41,880 Speaker 5: the ball up, passing the wing, you know what I mean. 131 00:05:41,960 --> 00:05:44,880 Speaker 5: So you look at these dudes getting drafted and be like, 132 00:05:44,920 --> 00:05:48,640 Speaker 5: here go to the ball. Everybody else gonna follow you. 133 00:05:48,640 --> 00:05:50,880 Speaker 5: You can shoot as much as you want, you can 134 00:05:50,960 --> 00:05:57,120 Speaker 5: make turnovers, like there's no like high esteem for fundamentals 135 00:05:58,200 --> 00:06:00,680 Speaker 5: or highest steam for like turnovers and things like that, 136 00:06:00,760 --> 00:06:03,120 Speaker 5: you know what I mean. So the freedom allow a 137 00:06:03,120 --> 00:06:06,200 Speaker 5: lot of these kids now to just playing their talent, 138 00:06:07,000 --> 00:06:09,200 Speaker 5: and so I didn't even know what my full talent 139 00:06:09,320 --> 00:06:11,760 Speaker 5: range was to like my third fourth to my third 140 00:06:11,760 --> 00:06:14,039 Speaker 5: fourth year, when you like, fuck it, I'm going for 141 00:06:14,080 --> 00:06:15,960 Speaker 5: All Star. I'm showing what I can do, you know 142 00:06:16,000 --> 00:06:18,400 Speaker 5: what I mean, instead of coming in and being like, hey, 143 00:06:18,440 --> 00:06:20,400 Speaker 5: show that's what you can do, like we're gonna rock 144 00:06:20,440 --> 00:06:22,839 Speaker 5: with you. You know it was it'd be way different. 145 00:06:23,240 --> 00:06:25,360 Speaker 3: Did they like you rock that third year or did 146 00:06:25,400 --> 00:06:28,160 Speaker 3: you have to really earn it like the third year 147 00:06:28,240 --> 00:06:29,080 Speaker 3: I did. 148 00:06:29,160 --> 00:06:33,279 Speaker 5: I did real good my third year, like I believe, 149 00:06:33,320 --> 00:06:35,560 Speaker 5: like may As Burn was hurt, I make the All 150 00:06:35,600 --> 00:06:40,799 Speaker 5: Star Game, but it was Vince Carter and he got injured. 151 00:06:40,839 --> 00:06:43,599 Speaker 5: But Vince Carter was such a real one. He hadn't 152 00:06:43,640 --> 00:06:46,520 Speaker 5: played like the whole season he was watching. He was like, man, 153 00:06:47,240 --> 00:06:49,159 Speaker 5: no way, I'm playing in the All Star Game, you 154 00:06:49,200 --> 00:06:52,320 Speaker 5: know what I mean? And it was like he was hurt. 155 00:06:52,600 --> 00:06:54,080 Speaker 5: So then that's how I got the call. That was 156 00:06:54,120 --> 00:06:55,159 Speaker 5: my first All Star Game. 157 00:06:55,320 --> 00:06:57,840 Speaker 3: Shouts to Vince. That's Reale, Yah, Vince, my dog. 158 00:06:58,080 --> 00:07:01,120 Speaker 1: I always tell them if I got hinted the ball 159 00:07:01,120 --> 00:07:03,520 Speaker 1: when I was a rookie, this podcast would have been 160 00:07:03,520 --> 00:07:06,400 Speaker 1: based out of Miami, it would have been based out 161 00:07:06,400 --> 00:07:06,880 Speaker 1: of India. 162 00:07:06,880 --> 00:07:08,479 Speaker 2: I would have been on food. I would have been 163 00:07:08,520 --> 00:07:09,880 Speaker 2: living on the beat. 164 00:07:10,840 --> 00:07:11,360 Speaker 3: Yeah. 165 00:07:13,560 --> 00:07:16,680 Speaker 1: Crazy, But I always tell him that, because man, I 166 00:07:16,680 --> 00:07:18,920 Speaker 1: had to come in a row. I played after Mike Bibbie, 167 00:07:19,000 --> 00:07:20,640 Speaker 1: so I had to learn how he played. He was 168 00:07:20,680 --> 00:07:24,320 Speaker 1: more of a traditional point guard. He scored, but more traditional. 169 00:07:24,720 --> 00:07:28,040 Speaker 1: And I came out of college shooting fifteen sixteen shots 170 00:07:28,080 --> 00:07:28,360 Speaker 1: a game. 171 00:07:28,440 --> 00:07:31,120 Speaker 2: So coming killer college, you know, I appreciate that. 172 00:07:31,240 --> 00:07:33,240 Speaker 1: But coming and passing the ball, going to the corner, 173 00:07:33,240 --> 00:07:35,240 Speaker 1: I ain't know what to do. But like you said, 174 00:07:35,240 --> 00:07:37,840 Speaker 1: if you had a different opportunity, it'll be a whole 175 00:07:37,840 --> 00:07:38,440 Speaker 1: different story. 176 00:07:38,440 --> 00:07:39,280 Speaker 2: I think, yeah. 177 00:07:39,320 --> 00:07:41,560 Speaker 5: And you know I played with BIV too. You know, 178 00:07:44,640 --> 00:07:48,680 Speaker 5: it is a funny deal. One of the best teammates 179 00:07:48,680 --> 00:07:51,680 Speaker 5: I've ever had. Due I never seen some dude like 180 00:07:51,920 --> 00:07:54,240 Speaker 5: I was bigger than Mike. I was, damn there, bigger 181 00:07:54,280 --> 00:07:56,920 Speaker 5: than Mike Baby my whole career. Like he was, he 182 00:07:57,080 --> 00:07:59,040 Speaker 5: was big, you know, he had he had, he had 183 00:07:59,080 --> 00:08:02,480 Speaker 5: size on eiven it. And then you look at Mike Bibby. 184 00:08:02,560 --> 00:08:04,920 Speaker 5: Now he grab you. He can grab you like this 185 00:08:04,960 --> 00:08:10,239 Speaker 5: and pick you up like w W bro credible Hulk muscles. 186 00:08:10,320 --> 00:08:13,240 Speaker 2: Mike sho wear Black Forces every day. He called. He 187 00:08:13,320 --> 00:08:14,120 Speaker 2: called me the other day. 188 00:08:14,160 --> 00:08:23,880 Speaker 1: I told him, Bro, you might as well go pro wrestling, bro. 189 00:08:22,160 --> 00:08:22,280 Speaker 5: Man. 190 00:08:29,920 --> 00:08:31,800 Speaker 1: But obviously, man, you did your thing with the hornets. 191 00:08:31,880 --> 00:08:33,439 Speaker 1: And then you got the opportunity. You know what I'm saying, 192 00:08:33,520 --> 00:08:35,320 Speaker 1: come play in the bay. How was it your first 193 00:08:35,360 --> 00:08:38,760 Speaker 1: transition coming from a new team, new situation, and obviously 194 00:08:38,960 --> 00:08:40,920 Speaker 1: came into a new situation, new coach, but then Don 195 00:08:40,920 --> 00:08:43,520 Speaker 1: Nelson came. How was that transition? Like you said, getting 196 00:08:43,520 --> 00:08:45,920 Speaker 1: able to actually do your thing. You was already established 197 00:08:45,960 --> 00:08:47,560 Speaker 1: with your game. Now you got to just really show 198 00:08:47,600 --> 00:08:48,720 Speaker 1: everybody how good you was. 199 00:08:49,080 --> 00:08:50,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, man, it was crazy because I was. It was 200 00:08:50,840 --> 00:08:51,560 Speaker 3: in New Orleans. 201 00:08:52,160 --> 00:08:54,720 Speaker 5: So the team moved from Charlotte to New Orleans and 202 00:08:54,760 --> 00:08:57,120 Speaker 5: then you know, New Orleans was like, oh we got 203 00:08:57,160 --> 00:09:00,280 Speaker 5: a basketball team, like win the games, you know what 204 00:09:00,320 --> 00:09:03,040 Speaker 5: I mean. We have to like pass out flyers and 205 00:09:03,040 --> 00:09:05,760 Speaker 5: ship you know, going to the game, like pass out tickets, 206 00:09:06,360 --> 00:09:08,680 Speaker 5: tickets out the windows, so people you know, doing many 207 00:09:08,720 --> 00:09:11,120 Speaker 5: gros catch them and come to the game. So coming 208 00:09:11,160 --> 00:09:13,160 Speaker 5: from New Orleans, I was already. 209 00:09:12,760 --> 00:09:16,040 Speaker 2: Like tickets with the beas is crazy, you know that. 210 00:09:20,080 --> 00:09:22,560 Speaker 5: Basically, Thank god? It was crazy. You have to fight 211 00:09:23,000 --> 00:09:25,120 Speaker 5: for so much attention in the city. Then you go 212 00:09:25,200 --> 00:09:28,040 Speaker 5: to the Saints game and it's like the whole New 213 00:09:28,160 --> 00:09:30,640 Speaker 5: Orleans come to the game. But like for us, it 214 00:09:30,800 --> 00:09:33,240 Speaker 5: was wild because people wouldn't really like it was in 215 00:09:33,320 --> 00:09:36,960 Speaker 5: the basketball, but basketball wasn't like like a thing, and 216 00:09:37,040 --> 00:09:40,680 Speaker 5: uh and then I had a lot of controversy leaving 217 00:09:41,040 --> 00:09:41,720 Speaker 5: New Orleans. 218 00:09:41,840 --> 00:09:43,599 Speaker 2: A lot of controversial disagreement. 219 00:09:44,480 --> 00:09:47,280 Speaker 5: Yeah, a lot of disagreements. Hey, bro, I had a 220 00:09:47,280 --> 00:09:48,720 Speaker 5: lot of shit going on when I. 221 00:09:48,640 --> 00:09:49,679 Speaker 3: Was leaving New Orleans. 222 00:09:50,160 --> 00:09:53,400 Speaker 5: So so when I got here, I was like, man, 223 00:09:53,559 --> 00:09:56,720 Speaker 5: I get a chance to turn my life around, you 224 00:09:56,720 --> 00:10:00,280 Speaker 5: know what I mean? And uh, malaya homies alone, you 225 00:10:00,320 --> 00:10:03,760 Speaker 5: know what I mean. I'm gonna leave all extracurriculars along. 226 00:10:04,040 --> 00:10:06,800 Speaker 5: And I got another chance to come and hoop. I 227 00:10:06,920 --> 00:10:08,960 Speaker 5: walk in the first day to go to stay Worried 228 00:10:08,960 --> 00:10:12,120 Speaker 5: of practice, I'm like, damn, dude, who died in this 229 00:10:12,559 --> 00:10:15,080 Speaker 5: in this monthfucking you know what I mean? Like nobody 230 00:10:15,120 --> 00:10:18,439 Speaker 5: was talking to each other, dude. Soon as practice was over, 231 00:10:18,600 --> 00:10:20,760 Speaker 5: everybody took one or two shots and got up out 232 00:10:20,800 --> 00:10:23,520 Speaker 5: of there. And I was like, damn, like, you know, 233 00:10:23,600 --> 00:10:26,120 Speaker 5: this like a walking corpse, you know what I mean. 234 00:10:26,200 --> 00:10:27,800 Speaker 5: And so all I wanted to do when I came 235 00:10:27,840 --> 00:10:31,840 Speaker 5: here was like, Giddy's do some some energy. 236 00:10:31,600 --> 00:10:32,160 Speaker 3: You know what I mean. 237 00:10:32,240 --> 00:10:34,680 Speaker 5: Let him know, like, like, damn dog, we got we 238 00:10:34,720 --> 00:10:37,240 Speaker 5: got a chance to hoop no matter what you got 239 00:10:37,240 --> 00:10:40,680 Speaker 5: going on with the coach management, like let's just go hoop, 240 00:10:40,720 --> 00:10:42,960 Speaker 5: and like that's our therapy, you know what I mean. 241 00:10:43,000 --> 00:10:45,920 Speaker 5: And so it start it started turning around, you know 242 00:10:45,960 --> 00:10:48,880 Speaker 5: what I mean. When I got here, uh, and then 243 00:10:48,920 --> 00:10:49,439 Speaker 5: it was lit. 244 00:10:49,559 --> 00:10:49,760 Speaker 3: You know. 245 00:10:49,800 --> 00:10:51,960 Speaker 5: We had won like seven games to finish the season, 246 00:10:52,000 --> 00:10:55,760 Speaker 5: seven games in a row. And then I think people 247 00:10:55,760 --> 00:10:58,040 Speaker 5: in the city just was like, fuck it, we start 248 00:10:58,120 --> 00:10:59,920 Speaker 5: believing it, you know what I mean, They start believing 249 00:11:00,080 --> 00:11:02,480 Speaker 5: that we could be something, because they always did, like 250 00:11:02,559 --> 00:11:05,120 Speaker 5: every year Warrior fans they were like, fuck it, we're 251 00:11:05,120 --> 00:11:07,400 Speaker 5: gonna be good. Until they wasn't, you know what I mean, 252 00:11:08,160 --> 00:11:10,000 Speaker 5: But they still showed up to the games, you know 253 00:11:10,040 --> 00:11:13,319 Speaker 5: what I'm saying. So, like the whole the whole journey 254 00:11:13,440 --> 00:11:16,920 Speaker 5: was like, man, it was packed. From the time I 255 00:11:17,040 --> 00:11:19,719 Speaker 5: checked in my first game off the bench, it was 256 00:11:19,800 --> 00:11:20,880 Speaker 5: it was packed already. 257 00:11:21,080 --> 00:11:22,080 Speaker 3: It was already cracking. 258 00:11:22,520 --> 00:11:24,560 Speaker 5: And so I was like, damn we got I'm coming 259 00:11:24,559 --> 00:11:27,480 Speaker 5: from New Orleans, you know, we struggling to get ten 260 00:11:27,559 --> 00:11:31,360 Speaker 5: thousand people, eight thousand people the year before in Charlotte 261 00:11:31,360 --> 00:11:34,800 Speaker 5: bro We're in the playoffs playing New Jersey second round. 262 00:11:35,240 --> 00:11:36,480 Speaker 3: There was five thousand people. 263 00:11:37,240 --> 00:11:37,960 Speaker 2: It's crazy. 264 00:11:38,320 --> 00:11:40,640 Speaker 3: The arena sid twenty two thousand people. 265 00:11:42,280 --> 00:11:47,720 Speaker 2: Here, Bro, it was wild, y'all was playing kidd. 266 00:11:48,360 --> 00:11:53,840 Speaker 5: Brobably had five thousand people that I played game game. 267 00:11:56,000 --> 00:11:56,360 Speaker 3: Crazy. 268 00:11:56,360 --> 00:11:59,199 Speaker 5: Had no home court advantage at all like that. Last 269 00:11:59,280 --> 00:12:03,400 Speaker 5: year was like once one christ one game around Christmas 270 00:12:03,480 --> 00:12:06,400 Speaker 5: is snow. It was like a thousand people if that 271 00:12:06,640 --> 00:12:08,079 Speaker 5: in the arena, that's crazy. 272 00:12:08,520 --> 00:12:09,760 Speaker 3: You can hear ship. 273 00:12:09,600 --> 00:12:11,719 Speaker 5: Like you can hear people having conversations, you know what 274 00:12:11,760 --> 00:12:15,120 Speaker 5: I mean, Like it was cold. 275 00:12:15,120 --> 00:12:17,040 Speaker 1: I tell you a story we had on our podcast before, 276 00:12:17,679 --> 00:12:20,360 Speaker 1: so he said, that's about the NBA game One time. 277 00:12:20,720 --> 00:12:23,800 Speaker 1: He said he was eating chicken chicken fingers and he 278 00:12:23,880 --> 00:12:27,160 Speaker 1: ran out of something. He told his cousin across the court, like, hey. 279 00:12:27,120 --> 00:12:27,760 Speaker 2: Grab some more. 280 00:12:28,679 --> 00:12:35,280 Speaker 6: Don't laughing shout out to This is about you can't 281 00:12:35,280 --> 00:12:37,600 Speaker 6: do it. A few games, parking them tickets don't win 282 00:12:37,720 --> 00:12:38,319 Speaker 6: up three times. 283 00:12:38,760 --> 00:12:40,920 Speaker 3: So, but when did this start turning around in Golden 284 00:12:40,960 --> 00:12:45,080 Speaker 3: State for you? It didn't. I mean it was like 285 00:12:45,160 --> 00:12:47,640 Speaker 3: the lot. Wait no, it didn't. 286 00:12:48,000 --> 00:12:50,600 Speaker 5: Like to be honest around now, I'm telling you, Bro, 287 00:12:50,840 --> 00:12:54,679 Speaker 5: everybody here knows the story. The next year we end 288 00:12:54,679 --> 00:12:58,360 Speaker 5: the season, I'm back to back Player of the Week 289 00:12:58,720 --> 00:13:01,040 Speaker 5: so I'm like, oh ship, I'm feeling good, Like I'm 290 00:13:01,080 --> 00:13:03,400 Speaker 5: back in my groove, and they fucking with me, you 291 00:13:03,440 --> 00:13:05,760 Speaker 5: know what I mean, I can do whatever I want. 292 00:13:06,120 --> 00:13:07,040 Speaker 3: Jay Rich Kracking. 293 00:13:07,280 --> 00:13:10,120 Speaker 5: We figure it out, get to the end of the season, 294 00:13:10,200 --> 00:13:13,199 Speaker 5: everybody leave on a good note. Come back in the 295 00:13:13,320 --> 00:13:18,160 Speaker 5: training camp. We got a whole year with Mike Montgomery. Man, 296 00:13:18,960 --> 00:13:20,000 Speaker 5: that ain't gonna work. 297 00:13:19,840 --> 00:13:21,520 Speaker 3: You know what I mean. That wasn't gonna work. 298 00:13:21,559 --> 00:13:25,600 Speaker 5: So we went back to you know, he thought that, 299 00:13:26,440 --> 00:13:29,920 Speaker 5: you know, college coaches. He thought that, like he needed 300 00:13:29,920 --> 00:13:32,680 Speaker 5: to have control and like teach and teach, and we're like, man, 301 00:13:33,040 --> 00:13:34,240 Speaker 5: you ain't teaching us nothing. 302 00:13:34,640 --> 00:13:36,960 Speaker 3: We already know how to play basketball. Let us play basketball. 303 00:13:37,000 --> 00:13:39,640 Speaker 5: So the next year came back and then we kind 304 00:13:39,640 --> 00:13:44,120 Speaker 5: of was like hovering and struggling under Mike Montgomery, you 305 00:13:44,200 --> 00:13:46,200 Speaker 5: know what I mean. And so it was like we 306 00:13:46,240 --> 00:13:48,559 Speaker 5: made a bad draft pick, you know, like we kept 307 00:13:48,600 --> 00:13:49,720 Speaker 5: making bad draft picks. 308 00:13:49,800 --> 00:13:50,640 Speaker 3: You know I say that. 309 00:13:51,440 --> 00:13:53,360 Speaker 5: So we wasn't getting better in the draft, you know 310 00:13:53,400 --> 00:13:54,520 Speaker 5: what I'm saying, Like we. 311 00:13:54,360 --> 00:13:58,760 Speaker 3: Wasn't getting better in the draft. You know, man, they're 312 00:13:58,800 --> 00:14:01,880 Speaker 3: not real, you know what I mean. Dunleavy was beefing 313 00:14:02,160 --> 00:14:04,600 Speaker 3: with the fans. You know what I'm saying, It's crazy. 314 00:14:05,000 --> 00:14:08,480 Speaker 5: It was the wildest shit ever, dude, because Mike Dunley 315 00:14:08,720 --> 00:14:11,280 Speaker 5: is a great teammate. He a great dude. He want 316 00:14:11,320 --> 00:14:14,679 Speaker 5: to win. And it was just like it was almost 317 00:14:14,720 --> 00:14:18,160 Speaker 5: like the other team bought tickets for plants and they 318 00:14:18,200 --> 00:14:20,560 Speaker 5: thought that they were Warrior fans, but they'd just be like, 319 00:14:21,240 --> 00:14:23,880 Speaker 5: fuck you, don't leave, fuck you too, Like no, don't 320 00:14:23,920 --> 00:14:27,720 Speaker 5: leave alone alone, man like dany focus on the games. 321 00:14:28,160 --> 00:14:31,160 Speaker 1: Be a Minnesota That's how I was in Minnesota area. 322 00:14:31,240 --> 00:14:34,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I say, you know, it's tough. I 323 00:14:34,520 --> 00:14:37,440 Speaker 3: went through that. I went through that in New Orleans. 324 00:14:37,440 --> 00:14:38,400 Speaker 3: That's how I got traded. 325 00:14:38,440 --> 00:14:41,240 Speaker 5: I was sitting on the bench and hurt, and I'm 326 00:14:41,240 --> 00:14:44,880 Speaker 5: watching Dan dickout kill and I'm watching the crowd go crazy. 327 00:14:45,000 --> 00:14:49,480 Speaker 3: Like I'm like, dd, we two and twenty? What the fuck? 328 00:14:49,720 --> 00:14:53,600 Speaker 5: Like you got to man like we two and twenty? 329 00:14:53,640 --> 00:14:55,680 Speaker 5: I don't care, you know what I mean? But they 330 00:14:55,760 --> 00:14:57,800 Speaker 5: was boring me. I wasn't even playing in New Orleans. 331 00:14:57,800 --> 00:15:00,400 Speaker 5: They got it got to that point. But like we 332 00:15:00,480 --> 00:15:02,560 Speaker 5: had a lot of like it was just ups and downs, 333 00:15:02,640 --> 00:15:05,640 Speaker 5: ups and downs, and we couldn't like we couldn't turn 334 00:15:05,680 --> 00:15:09,880 Speaker 5: the corner. They fire Mike Montgomery. Then they bring in 335 00:15:09,960 --> 00:15:13,840 Speaker 5: Don Nelson. Yes, Sir don Nelson come, Remember Dwan Wagner, 336 00:15:14,720 --> 00:15:16,840 Speaker 5: Dwan Wagner Monte. 337 00:15:17,280 --> 00:15:19,320 Speaker 1: We got a guy from our city named Andre Owens. 338 00:15:19,400 --> 00:15:20,360 Speaker 1: He came and tried. 339 00:15:21,400 --> 00:15:24,480 Speaker 5: Tried out, so we like we had a little little 340 00:15:24,480 --> 00:15:27,840 Speaker 5: warrior makeup, you know what I mean. Don Levy was cool. 341 00:15:28,440 --> 00:15:33,320 Speaker 5: Troy Murphy was kind of like, you know, you see 342 00:15:33,320 --> 00:15:38,800 Speaker 5: everybody laughing. He was, you know, like you know when 343 00:15:38,800 --> 00:15:42,600 Speaker 5: a player is like he done. He was done here 344 00:15:42,760 --> 00:15:45,800 Speaker 5: he needed like he was a good player, he was 345 00:15:45,800 --> 00:15:46,680 Speaker 5: a double double. 346 00:15:46,960 --> 00:15:50,200 Speaker 3: But it was just like he he was he was drained. Bro. 347 00:15:50,280 --> 00:15:52,400 Speaker 5: It was like he had you know, you gotta think 348 00:15:52,760 --> 00:15:56,440 Speaker 5: Jay Rich, Don Levy, Troy Murphy, Donald Foyle. They had 349 00:15:56,520 --> 00:16:00,240 Speaker 5: seven coaches. They had like seven coaches before I got there, 350 00:16:00,800 --> 00:16:03,920 Speaker 5: So like you can imagine, like damn, we got another coach. 351 00:16:03,960 --> 00:16:06,360 Speaker 5: I don't care who the coach is. Like, man, we 352 00:16:06,400 --> 00:16:08,440 Speaker 5: got another coach. What are we doing now? So it 353 00:16:08,560 --> 00:16:11,200 Speaker 5: was like we won't going. We was hovering and we 354 00:16:11,240 --> 00:16:14,200 Speaker 5: was cool, but we didn't have like we didn't had 355 00:16:14,240 --> 00:16:17,160 Speaker 5: a juice. And I remember Chris Mullen came to me. 356 00:16:17,240 --> 00:16:20,000 Speaker 5: It was like, man, we're gonna try to make this right. 357 00:16:20,040 --> 00:16:25,240 Speaker 5: We're gonna try to get this right, and was nothing happening, 358 00:16:25,520 --> 00:16:26,920 Speaker 5: you know what I mean. And so towards the end 359 00:16:26,960 --> 00:16:29,640 Speaker 5: of the trade deadline, it was almost like they came in. 360 00:16:29,720 --> 00:16:32,480 Speaker 5: It was like Stephen Jackson, Al Herring. I was like, oh, 361 00:16:32,520 --> 00:16:34,480 Speaker 5: hell yeah, we cracking now, you know what I mean? 362 00:16:34,600 --> 00:16:43,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, Murphy said, Troy and dun Levy, uh like Diago, Yeah, we're. 363 00:16:43,640 --> 00:16:45,520 Speaker 5: Still thinking that track. We should have tried to keep 364 00:16:45,560 --> 00:16:48,200 Speaker 5: done Levy. We would have been all right, Like he 365 00:16:48,360 --> 00:16:50,640 Speaker 5: was like a missing piece for us in the like 366 00:16:50,720 --> 00:16:52,600 Speaker 5: in that we believe it when you think about what 367 00:16:52,680 --> 00:16:53,120 Speaker 5: we needed. 368 00:16:54,400 --> 00:16:55,680 Speaker 3: But we make the trade right. 369 00:16:56,760 --> 00:16:59,400 Speaker 5: Everybody like, ah shit, yeah the homies here, Hey do 370 00:16:59,560 --> 00:17:01,000 Speaker 5: We was getting my ass booked. 371 00:17:02,000 --> 00:17:04,120 Speaker 3: Everybody know, we was getting our ass well. We still 372 00:17:04,280 --> 00:17:04,720 Speaker 3: was like. 373 00:17:05,119 --> 00:17:07,200 Speaker 5: Couldn't get over the hump, you know what I mean. 374 00:17:07,240 --> 00:17:10,800 Speaker 5: We couldn't get over the hump. And then Nelly was like, 375 00:17:11,000 --> 00:17:13,600 Speaker 5: all right, well, ship, I see what I got, you 376 00:17:13,640 --> 00:17:15,560 Speaker 5: know what I mean? Like fucking We'll just wait to 377 00:17:15,680 --> 00:17:20,280 Speaker 5: next year. And it was like not even halfway during this. 378 00:17:24,400 --> 00:17:25,960 Speaker 2: I coached high school. I did this year. 379 00:17:27,160 --> 00:17:31,280 Speaker 3: We let him get to the city and get comfortable. 380 00:17:31,359 --> 00:17:35,320 Speaker 3: Ro Sol No. 381 00:17:34,480 --> 00:17:41,840 Speaker 5: Na bron comfortable. Let's take No, it wasn't some new houses, 382 00:17:42,000 --> 00:17:42,600 Speaker 5: you know what I mean. 383 00:17:43,960 --> 00:17:44,520 Speaker 3: Hit the ruck. 384 00:17:44,560 --> 00:17:46,520 Speaker 5: We had went on the road, you know what I mean. 385 00:17:46,600 --> 00:17:48,119 Speaker 5: So we had went on the road. So we was 386 00:17:48,119 --> 00:17:51,640 Speaker 5: on the road just like struggling. And then I got 387 00:17:51,720 --> 00:17:57,560 Speaker 5: hurt right before all start weekend and ship. We was 388 00:17:57,600 --> 00:18:00,440 Speaker 5: just hummering, hummering. And then after all start, I remember 389 00:18:00,480 --> 00:18:02,600 Speaker 5: we had a team meeting. We had lost to Washington. 390 00:18:03,160 --> 00:18:05,320 Speaker 5: Gil had hit two free throws and we had a 391 00:18:05,359 --> 00:18:08,840 Speaker 5: team meeting, and I was like, man, if y'all motherfuckers 392 00:18:08,880 --> 00:18:11,359 Speaker 5: want to party. I throw a party at my birthday 393 00:18:11,480 --> 00:18:13,440 Speaker 5: end of the season. But we got to start partying 394 00:18:13,480 --> 00:18:15,879 Speaker 5: on the court, you know what I mean. So like 395 00:18:15,960 --> 00:18:18,960 Speaker 5: if we make the court our party in our club, 396 00:18:19,480 --> 00:18:21,600 Speaker 5: and shit, I go out every night, We'll go out. 397 00:18:21,600 --> 00:18:22,440 Speaker 3: But we had never. 398 00:18:22,320 --> 00:18:28,240 Speaker 5: Really like before that Dune, Levy, Jay Rich, Troy Murphy 399 00:18:28,240 --> 00:18:31,000 Speaker 5: and Donald Foyle like that crew. They never hung out 400 00:18:32,280 --> 00:18:39,240 Speaker 5: with Stack and Matt Stack and Matt, Stephen Jackson, Doyln 401 00:18:39,280 --> 00:18:41,920 Speaker 5: Harrington and we already had Matt. So like when they came, 402 00:18:42,000 --> 00:18:45,040 Speaker 5: it was like now everybody had people to hang out 403 00:18:45,040 --> 00:18:47,000 Speaker 5: with and then the young dudes wanted to hang out, 404 00:18:47,040 --> 00:18:48,920 Speaker 5: you know what I mean, because it was like, now 405 00:18:48,960 --> 00:18:51,040 Speaker 5: you got real NBA stories, you know what I mean, 406 00:18:51,200 --> 00:18:54,520 Speaker 5: Stack telling stories down Harrington telling stories, you know what 407 00:18:54,560 --> 00:18:56,920 Speaker 5: I mean. And so that kind of like built that 408 00:18:57,000 --> 00:19:01,520 Speaker 5: little camaraderie. Then after that Washington game, I came back, 409 00:19:01,880 --> 00:19:04,800 Speaker 5: we played Detroit and everybody thought it was gonna get 410 00:19:04,800 --> 00:19:07,720 Speaker 5: our ass whoop and we beat the ship out of him, 411 00:19:07,760 --> 00:19:10,600 Speaker 5: and it wasn't. It wasn't like a game where it's like, oh, 412 00:19:10,640 --> 00:19:12,480 Speaker 5: we beat them, you know what I mean. 413 00:19:12,520 --> 00:19:13,520 Speaker 3: It's like, yeah, we gotta go. 414 00:19:13,640 --> 00:19:16,480 Speaker 5: And it was like, nah, they can't fuck with us, 415 00:19:16,520 --> 00:19:18,200 Speaker 5: Like we can fuck with them, you know what I mean, 416 00:19:18,320 --> 00:19:21,399 Speaker 5: Like we can match up good against Detroit was like 417 00:19:21,440 --> 00:19:23,080 Speaker 5: one of the best teams in the league. And after 418 00:19:23,119 --> 00:19:25,560 Speaker 5: that we was like, ship, if we can beat Detroit, 419 00:19:26,119 --> 00:19:28,280 Speaker 5: we can beat anybody's turn around. 420 00:19:29,320 --> 00:19:30,560 Speaker 3: That was it. That was it. 421 00:19:30,600 --> 00:19:33,200 Speaker 5: But it was it happened because we was like, all right, 422 00:19:33,320 --> 00:19:35,959 Speaker 5: fuck it if we you know, everybody giving up on us, 423 00:19:36,600 --> 00:19:38,840 Speaker 5: If we're gonna party, We're gonna party on the court. 424 00:19:38,960 --> 00:19:41,680 Speaker 5: And then after the game, if we win, we going out. 425 00:19:42,240 --> 00:19:48,280 Speaker 5: We went out every night every night I was like, God, 426 00:19:48,320 --> 00:19:56,359 Speaker 5: I believe that's what we start doing with. It was 427 00:19:56,400 --> 00:19:58,879 Speaker 5: the wildest ship because we was We was like a 428 00:19:59,000 --> 00:20:01,840 Speaker 5: rap group. He was like the Wu Tang going to 429 00:20:01,960 --> 00:20:03,520 Speaker 5: like we played and then we go to the club. 430 00:20:03,840 --> 00:20:05,960 Speaker 5: Motherfuckers like damn this Wu Tang. 431 00:20:05,800 --> 00:20:08,119 Speaker 3: Death ro bad Boy whatever. It was like. 432 00:20:08,160 --> 00:20:11,639 Speaker 5: We was cracking y'all. Every city, it didn't matter what 433 00:20:11,800 --> 00:20:15,359 Speaker 5: city it was, was going to the club, was taking 434 00:20:15,400 --> 00:20:20,480 Speaker 5: over the club up drinking, got the hand going yes, sir, 435 00:20:20,680 --> 00:20:23,639 Speaker 5: and then if I drink, I'm going to go grab 436 00:20:23,680 --> 00:20:27,200 Speaker 5: the mic so I would take you. That's where the 437 00:20:27,280 --> 00:20:30,960 Speaker 5: rapperd career started. Take DJ you know what I mean? 438 00:20:31,760 --> 00:20:36,080 Speaker 5: And who knows you know what I mean? Everybody was. 439 00:20:36,920 --> 00:20:39,680 Speaker 5: Everybody was in firing range when I got the mic. 440 00:20:39,840 --> 00:20:42,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, but in serious no, I think for real, that's 441 00:20:42,520 --> 00:20:44,880 Speaker 4: what helps teams come together when y'all hang out off 442 00:20:44,920 --> 00:20:48,480 Speaker 4: the court. Chemistry, Yeah, that chemistry mission like, well, when 443 00:20:48,520 --> 00:20:49,720 Speaker 4: y'all get on the court for sure. 444 00:20:49,880 --> 00:20:52,200 Speaker 5: So I'll probably say y'all team was like that. Y'all 445 00:20:52,240 --> 00:20:54,120 Speaker 5: look like you know that Joe Johnson. 446 00:20:54,520 --> 00:20:55,520 Speaker 2: We went out every day. 447 00:20:55,680 --> 00:21:00,359 Speaker 3: Turn my boy out. 448 00:21:02,600 --> 00:21:03,240 Speaker 2: I'm gonna keep it. 449 00:21:04,040 --> 00:21:07,560 Speaker 1: I'm gonna keep it right time, I'm gonna keep it 450 00:21:07,560 --> 00:21:10,760 Speaker 1: cool at home something pocket. 451 00:21:10,800 --> 00:21:20,080 Speaker 6: But that's what you know, Hey, put you on the game. 452 00:21:21,480 --> 00:21:22,720 Speaker 2: Now, we went out of every city. 453 00:21:22,800 --> 00:21:25,200 Speaker 1: I mean, it wasn't a gentleman's club that I didn't 454 00:21:25,200 --> 00:21:30,720 Speaker 1: know about that way for sure. So obviously, man, y'all 455 00:21:30,720 --> 00:21:32,240 Speaker 1: get it together going the season and then you get 456 00:21:32,200 --> 00:21:34,720 Speaker 1: into the playoffs and that's what the magic happens. Like 457 00:21:35,080 --> 00:21:36,840 Speaker 1: it's very rare that you see. Obviously that was a 458 00:21:36,960 --> 00:21:38,399 Speaker 1: historic situation. You know what I'm saying, y'all be in 459 00:21:38,440 --> 00:21:41,200 Speaker 1: the ABC beating the one seed, but like y'all wasn't say 460 00:21:41,200 --> 00:21:43,320 Speaker 1: that match up very confident, and you can tell it 461 00:21:43,400 --> 00:21:45,400 Speaker 1: wasn't like, oh, we're about to get them. It's like, nah, 462 00:21:45,440 --> 00:21:47,720 Speaker 1: we got this handled. And y'all was playing against Dirt. 463 00:21:48,160 --> 00:21:50,520 Speaker 5: Yeah, we had beat them like six six games in 464 00:21:50,520 --> 00:21:55,120 Speaker 5: a row, and we had beat them with Troy Murphy, 465 00:21:55,440 --> 00:21:59,959 Speaker 5: Mike Murphy, Donald Foyle, Jay Rich, and so we had 466 00:22:00,080 --> 00:22:03,280 Speaker 5: beat him with that squad I had at the time. 467 00:22:03,320 --> 00:22:06,639 Speaker 5: I don't even think I had played against Dallas. Shit, damn, 468 00:22:06,800 --> 00:22:09,600 Speaker 5: because I missed I was I missed a couple of games. 469 00:22:09,680 --> 00:22:11,560 Speaker 5: Jay Rich hit a buzzer beat or something like that 470 00:22:11,600 --> 00:22:14,200 Speaker 5: in Dallas. But for some strange reason, when you look 471 00:22:14,240 --> 00:22:17,560 Speaker 5: at Golden State versus Dallas, we had their number. 472 00:22:18,640 --> 00:22:20,560 Speaker 3: So when we came into the playoffs, like. 473 00:22:22,440 --> 00:22:25,000 Speaker 5: I never forget the first day of practice, I had 474 00:22:25,040 --> 00:22:28,159 Speaker 5: never seen Nelly move so fast, talk so fast. Like 475 00:22:28,560 --> 00:22:30,680 Speaker 5: it was like hold on, like this a whole new dude. 476 00:22:30,720 --> 00:22:32,040 Speaker 5: He was like, yoh, I know how to beat him. 477 00:22:32,680 --> 00:22:35,800 Speaker 5: Shut the fuck up, do what I tell you. And 478 00:22:35,880 --> 00:22:38,679 Speaker 5: if you do it every time, I don't care what happened. 479 00:22:38,680 --> 00:22:41,760 Speaker 5: If you do it every time, we're gonna win. And 480 00:22:41,760 --> 00:22:46,320 Speaker 5: he knew, you know, he grew Dirk room, Josh Howard, 481 00:22:46,560 --> 00:22:49,040 Speaker 5: you know what I mean. He put that team together 482 00:22:49,040 --> 00:22:50,960 Speaker 5: that was really like his team, and he gave it 483 00:22:51,040 --> 00:22:56,000 Speaker 5: Tabuy Johnson. So we knew that Dirk was gonna dribble 484 00:22:56,080 --> 00:22:58,160 Speaker 5: right and spend, or dribble left and spin. 485 00:22:59,040 --> 00:23:02,560 Speaker 3: You know. So time Dirk went to dribble. 486 00:23:03,800 --> 00:23:06,200 Speaker 5: On that second dribble, if he was getting ready to 487 00:23:06,240 --> 00:23:08,080 Speaker 5: spend and somebody wasn't there, you're getting out. 488 00:23:08,119 --> 00:23:09,879 Speaker 3: You're getting out the game. You may not never go 489 00:23:09,920 --> 00:23:10,680 Speaker 3: in the game again. 490 00:23:11,520 --> 00:23:14,120 Speaker 5: So once we started doing that, we was really disrupting 491 00:23:15,240 --> 00:23:18,080 Speaker 5: Dirk timing. So if you watch it, if you watch 492 00:23:18,119 --> 00:23:20,880 Speaker 5: the games, like he was balling still, but. 493 00:23:20,880 --> 00:23:23,720 Speaker 3: He couldn't get comfortable, you know what. 494 00:23:24,000 --> 00:23:26,119 Speaker 5: You know how it is, it's like, man, I'm scoring, 495 00:23:26,200 --> 00:23:28,680 Speaker 5: but like I ain't been to my spot. He ain't 496 00:23:28,720 --> 00:23:31,640 Speaker 5: got to his spot all game, you know what I mean. 497 00:23:32,240 --> 00:23:34,879 Speaker 5: And then Josh Howard we had. He was the next 498 00:23:35,000 --> 00:23:37,879 Speaker 5: you know, important person for them because he was like 499 00:23:37,920 --> 00:23:42,399 Speaker 5: they glue guy scoring door and he went left all 500 00:23:42,440 --> 00:23:46,360 Speaker 5: the time left, all his game was left. So we 501 00:23:46,359 --> 00:23:49,600 Speaker 5: was like, don't let him go left. Jason Terry couldn't 502 00:23:49,600 --> 00:23:52,200 Speaker 5: go left, he went right right, you know what I mean. 503 00:23:52,280 --> 00:23:56,240 Speaker 5: So it was just like everything was just precise, it 504 00:23:56,359 --> 00:23:59,760 Speaker 5: was detailed, and he was like, we're gonna beat these dudes. 505 00:24:00,119 --> 00:24:01,920 Speaker 5: He said it the first day. He said, We're gonna 506 00:24:01,920 --> 00:24:04,119 Speaker 5: beat him. It's what you're gonna do. Stay humble in 507 00:24:04,200 --> 00:24:07,199 Speaker 5: the media, don't say nothing. Always get him praise, and 508 00:24:07,320 --> 00:24:10,560 Speaker 5: just act like we're lucky, you know what I mean, 509 00:24:10,680 --> 00:24:13,600 Speaker 5: Just act like we're lucky. But we had their number 510 00:24:13,680 --> 00:24:17,280 Speaker 5: because on the other end, it was just hard for 511 00:24:17,359 --> 00:24:20,200 Speaker 5: them to match up. Right if they tried to play 512 00:24:20,200 --> 00:24:22,520 Speaker 5: a match up, which they did, which we didn't think 513 00:24:22,520 --> 00:24:25,440 Speaker 5: they were gonna do. The first game was the dictator 514 00:24:25,480 --> 00:24:30,679 Speaker 5: because they took the dude out the starting lineup, Damn Pierre. 515 00:24:32,400 --> 00:24:33,679 Speaker 3: They took the big dude out. 516 00:24:34,960 --> 00:24:37,800 Speaker 5: But you know, and he played against he played here 517 00:24:37,880 --> 00:24:40,560 Speaker 5: for the Warriors, so you take him out the lineup 518 00:24:40,600 --> 00:24:43,639 Speaker 5: like he looking for revenge. He got drafted here and 519 00:24:43,680 --> 00:24:45,480 Speaker 5: then when he was in the game, like he was 520 00:24:45,560 --> 00:24:48,440 Speaker 5: duncan you know what I mean, that's six eight easy. 521 00:24:48,160 --> 00:24:50,200 Speaker 3: Points for him. 522 00:24:50,520 --> 00:24:52,280 Speaker 5: But when they took him out the lineup, we was like, 523 00:24:52,320 --> 00:24:55,960 Speaker 5: oh shit, like, yeah, they trying. 524 00:24:55,760 --> 00:24:57,159 Speaker 3: To play our game, you know what I mean. It 525 00:24:57,160 --> 00:24:58,160 Speaker 3: ain't gonna work like that. 526 00:25:02,960 --> 00:25:04,640 Speaker 2: But y'all think y'all started the small ball. 527 00:25:05,840 --> 00:25:10,280 Speaker 3: Oh shit, I don't know. I mean it was already started, 528 00:25:10,320 --> 00:25:14,480 Speaker 3: like you know from from history, tell your story. He 529 00:25:14,880 --> 00:25:15,440 Speaker 3: just wanted no. 530 00:25:15,600 --> 00:25:17,720 Speaker 1: I think they started the small ball because I think 531 00:25:17,720 --> 00:25:20,000 Speaker 1: they like they took Damn Pier out like we started 532 00:25:20,040 --> 00:25:21,000 Speaker 1: the three point shooting ship. 533 00:25:21,040 --> 00:25:23,840 Speaker 2: Don't worry about small ball. 534 00:25:23,880 --> 00:25:26,119 Speaker 1: They started that, bro, because they took they took like 535 00:25:26,119 --> 00:25:27,760 Speaker 1: you said, took dam Pier out the game. They tried 536 00:25:27,800 --> 00:25:29,320 Speaker 1: to match up with them when they play the game. 537 00:25:29,440 --> 00:25:32,200 Speaker 1: Now you got bad going at Dirk and all these dudes, 538 00:25:32,240 --> 00:25:34,040 Speaker 1: and it's like it ain't hering. 539 00:25:33,680 --> 00:25:35,679 Speaker 2: Player the five like the revolutionary with that. 540 00:25:36,040 --> 00:25:39,000 Speaker 5: I mean, I think a lot of times when you're 541 00:25:39,080 --> 00:25:42,560 Speaker 5: balling like that, the announcers say, oh, they're just out 542 00:25:42,560 --> 00:25:44,360 Speaker 5: there playing, they don't, you know what I mean. It's 543 00:25:44,359 --> 00:25:50,560 Speaker 5: like street balls, you man, high intellectual basketball move that 544 00:25:50,760 --> 00:25:53,040 Speaker 5: fast to be thinking like that, be all thinking on 545 00:25:53,119 --> 00:25:56,000 Speaker 5: what the cord. You gotta have some intelligent people, you 546 00:25:56,080 --> 00:25:58,119 Speaker 5: know what I mean. And so I think for us, 547 00:25:59,000 --> 00:26:02,480 Speaker 5: if you watch, I would say, we didn't start small ball, 548 00:26:02,680 --> 00:26:05,280 Speaker 5: but we started like Mitch match basketball. 549 00:26:06,280 --> 00:26:07,520 Speaker 3: You know what I mean. You got me. 550 00:26:07,720 --> 00:26:11,639 Speaker 5: Stack, al Matt Barnes, Jay Rich out there a mante 551 00:26:11,680 --> 00:26:14,800 Speaker 5: me Jay Rich Stack and you know what I mean. 552 00:26:15,280 --> 00:26:20,920 Speaker 5: And Matt and what we started realizing was basketball is 553 00:26:22,119 --> 00:26:25,800 Speaker 5: every team has one or two really good players. You 554 00:26:25,800 --> 00:26:29,640 Speaker 5: gotta worry about the third and the fourth guy are 555 00:26:29,800 --> 00:26:32,800 Speaker 5: really good too, but you know they're not They're not 556 00:26:32,960 --> 00:26:35,320 Speaker 5: comfortable as those first two, you know what I mean. 557 00:26:35,480 --> 00:26:38,320 Speaker 5: And so if you play to the tiers right and 558 00:26:38,359 --> 00:26:41,760 Speaker 5: say like, we ain't gonna stop your main guy, We're 559 00:26:41,760 --> 00:26:44,720 Speaker 5: gonna disrupt your main guy, and then the second tier 560 00:26:44,760 --> 00:26:47,080 Speaker 5: and the third tier dudes, they're not getting nothing. 561 00:26:47,480 --> 00:26:48,080 Speaker 3: You know what I mean? 562 00:26:48,119 --> 00:26:51,720 Speaker 5: Because they are more limited, you know what I mean, 563 00:26:51,800 --> 00:26:55,200 Speaker 5: for what they can do for the team, you know 564 00:26:55,240 --> 00:26:56,959 Speaker 5: what I mean, And they don't have as much freedom 565 00:26:57,040 --> 00:26:58,960 Speaker 5: as a dirt you know what I mean, or as 566 00:26:59,240 --> 00:27:02,680 Speaker 5: as KG. So we would just watch teams and be like, oh, 567 00:27:02,680 --> 00:27:06,560 Speaker 5: we're playing against Boston and they got Kendrick Perkins, and 568 00:27:06,640 --> 00:27:09,359 Speaker 5: KG is like, oh, yeah, we're gonna run down because 569 00:27:09,400 --> 00:27:11,320 Speaker 5: anybody can guard Perk, you know what I mean. 570 00:27:13,400 --> 00:27:16,359 Speaker 3: You know, but anybody on our team, like you didn't 571 00:27:16,400 --> 00:27:19,959 Speaker 3: care who guarded Perk, you know what I mean, though, 572 00:27:20,040 --> 00:27:21,040 Speaker 3: that can guard anybody. 573 00:27:21,359 --> 00:27:24,639 Speaker 5: Let's think about it, like if Boston start posting up 574 00:27:24,800 --> 00:27:28,320 Speaker 5: Kendrick Perkins to play against us, right because it's a mess, 575 00:27:28,359 --> 00:27:31,480 Speaker 5: it's a mismatch, We're gonna be like, damn, that's a mismatch. 576 00:27:31,520 --> 00:27:34,240 Speaker 5: So you start creating dissension, you know what I mean, 577 00:27:34,359 --> 00:27:36,399 Speaker 5: Like if we don't guard Who was the center on 578 00:27:36,800 --> 00:27:37,639 Speaker 5: yall team? 579 00:27:37,920 --> 00:27:40,560 Speaker 3: Boy, you had a lot of them, Boylin Horford. 580 00:27:41,840 --> 00:27:45,040 Speaker 4: For y'all squad, y'all was difficult to y'all couldn't guard 581 00:27:45,080 --> 00:27:45,800 Speaker 4: them like y'all. 582 00:27:46,200 --> 00:27:51,000 Speaker 5: No, they were matchup problems. Josh Smith, Joe Johnson was unguardable. 583 00:27:51,280 --> 00:27:53,639 Speaker 5: And then this motherfucker was just fast as hell. Then 584 00:27:53,680 --> 00:27:55,879 Speaker 5: you got Kyle Korver. You can't even you know what 585 00:27:55,920 --> 00:27:56,200 Speaker 5: I mean. 586 00:27:56,280 --> 00:27:56,560 Speaker 3: It was. 587 00:27:56,760 --> 00:27:59,200 Speaker 5: It was a lot of the they got. They created 588 00:27:59,240 --> 00:28:02,639 Speaker 5: a whole little They were like the US in the East. 589 00:28:03,640 --> 00:28:05,520 Speaker 5: Facts like US in the East. 590 00:28:05,840 --> 00:28:06,919 Speaker 2: Try to disrub Lebron. 591 00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:10,520 Speaker 1: That didn't work though, Yeah you said that to Dribble 592 00:28:10,560 --> 00:28:11,600 Speaker 1: Lift were there. 593 00:28:11,600 --> 00:28:12,080 Speaker 2: It didn't work. 594 00:28:12,760 --> 00:28:14,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, I was putting the wrong dudes on le Bron. 595 00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:18,800 Speaker 7: We ain't have nobody supposed to. Yeah, that's the problem. 596 00:28:18,800 --> 00:28:20,159 Speaker 7: That's crazy, that's the problem. 597 00:28:20,160 --> 00:28:22,920 Speaker 5: You're supposed to bring the hacks in first they came 598 00:28:22,960 --> 00:28:27,760 Speaker 5: into Nah Man, you're supposed to tell the hacks Ivan Johnson, Man, 599 00:28:27,840 --> 00:28:31,879 Speaker 5: he can't guard a little Bron. He's supposed he's supposed 600 00:28:31,880 --> 00:28:33,480 Speaker 5: to say, Ivan Johnson. 601 00:28:33,520 --> 00:28:39,040 Speaker 3: You're filing out today the first half, first quartering man, 602 00:28:39,120 --> 00:28:40,960 Speaker 3: Come on there, that's in his ear. 603 00:28:41,040 --> 00:28:44,560 Speaker 5: Hey, I need six, I need six, I need six 604 00:28:44,720 --> 00:28:52,280 Speaker 5: filets like it ain't even Yeah, I don't care what 605 00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:55,000 Speaker 5: I get you a bucket. 606 00:28:57,840 --> 00:28:59,640 Speaker 2: If Ivan Johnson got six fous, the game would have 607 00:28:59,640 --> 00:29:00,080 Speaker 2: been only. 608 00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:04,800 Speaker 5: Ain't you see Naven Johnson. We was terrified when we 609 00:29:04,880 --> 00:29:06,200 Speaker 5: seen that dude come in the game. 610 00:29:06,120 --> 00:29:07,320 Speaker 2: Play with a grill for real. 611 00:29:07,760 --> 00:29:10,800 Speaker 5: This dude was Hey, this dude was sick. Dude, Yeah, 612 00:29:10,840 --> 00:29:13,000 Speaker 5: he came in the game. Dude was like, hey, hold. 613 00:29:12,880 --> 00:29:17,600 Speaker 7: On, yeah, bro, who was that? 614 00:29:17,640 --> 00:29:18,880 Speaker 2: He had thirty two goals? 615 00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:23,120 Speaker 3: Bro? Hey dog? He I love that. Dude was a dog. 616 00:29:23,240 --> 00:29:25,160 Speaker 5: It was like he came in the game looking like 617 00:29:25,160 --> 00:29:28,480 Speaker 5: hold on, man, like, like who signed him? 618 00:29:30,120 --> 00:29:32,120 Speaker 2: You know the story about that showed up? 619 00:29:32,160 --> 00:29:34,440 Speaker 1: He got cut, bro, and came back to practice, and 620 00:29:34,480 --> 00:29:35,640 Speaker 1: they were scared to like tell him. 621 00:29:36,800 --> 00:29:39,280 Speaker 2: I swear, I swear that he got cut. And they 622 00:29:39,400 --> 00:29:41,720 Speaker 2: came back to practice and they was like, who's gonna 623 00:29:41,720 --> 00:29:42,040 Speaker 2: tell him? 624 00:29:42,040 --> 00:29:43,560 Speaker 3: The league nobody. 625 00:29:43,400 --> 00:29:45,800 Speaker 1: He started practicing agetting there. Everybody was like, you. 626 00:29:45,920 --> 00:29:46,640 Speaker 3: Gotta keep you in. 627 00:29:46,760 --> 00:29:49,840 Speaker 5: You'll gotta keep this fire because everybody on the team 628 00:29:49,920 --> 00:29:50,840 Speaker 5: was probably scared too. 629 00:29:51,120 --> 00:29:53,840 Speaker 2: I didn't even go home scared. 630 00:29:55,480 --> 00:29:57,840 Speaker 5: Real. Imagine if he had to tell him, like, hey, bro, 631 00:29:57,960 --> 00:30:02,800 Speaker 5: don't you know think they want you? 632 00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:06,440 Speaker 1: He came back, Bro, It's crazy legend, but obviously we 633 00:30:06,480 --> 00:30:06,959 Speaker 1: know what you did. 634 00:30:07,040 --> 00:30:08,000 Speaker 2: Y'all took care of bits. 635 00:30:07,880 --> 00:30:08,360 Speaker 3: With the mask. 636 00:30:08,440 --> 00:30:10,080 Speaker 1: In the next round, you had one of the most 637 00:30:10,280 --> 00:30:14,080 Speaker 1: iconic legendary dunks in the NBA history. Man, how was 638 00:30:14,120 --> 00:30:15,440 Speaker 1: it going against that Jazz team. But a lot of 639 00:30:15,440 --> 00:30:17,920 Speaker 1: people don't understand that Jazz team was lit like it 640 00:30:17,960 --> 00:30:20,000 Speaker 1: was d Will Booze. That was one of the most 641 00:30:20,040 --> 00:30:21,440 Speaker 1: underrated two man games. 642 00:30:21,280 --> 00:30:21,880 Speaker 2: In the league. 643 00:30:22,200 --> 00:30:24,960 Speaker 5: They were real good. They were like they were a machine, 644 00:30:25,360 --> 00:30:26,840 Speaker 5: you know what I mean. I felt like if we 645 00:30:27,040 --> 00:30:31,800 Speaker 5: could have got past Utah, we were a bad match 646 00:30:31,880 --> 00:30:34,680 Speaker 5: up for San Antonio. Oh for sure, we're a bad 647 00:30:34,760 --> 00:30:38,680 Speaker 5: match up for San Antonio because we can guard Tim 648 00:30:38,760 --> 00:30:42,280 Speaker 5: Duncan with Beatrice and let Tim Duncan eat and then. 649 00:30:42,160 --> 00:30:43,840 Speaker 3: Everybody, everybody, you know what I mean. 650 00:30:44,680 --> 00:30:47,600 Speaker 5: But that boozer d Will was just like they were. 651 00:30:47,920 --> 00:30:50,640 Speaker 5: They were just bigger than us, you know what I mean. 652 00:30:50,960 --> 00:30:54,680 Speaker 5: And really it was like after the Dallas thing, it 653 00:30:54,800 --> 00:30:56,960 Speaker 5: was like you riding a high and if you like, 654 00:30:57,040 --> 00:31:00,120 Speaker 5: if you can't keep that ship going, and there was 655 00:31:00,160 --> 00:31:02,120 Speaker 5: a moment where it's like two or three days and 656 00:31:02,160 --> 00:31:04,640 Speaker 5: you're like, can sit and settle in, then. 657 00:31:04,600 --> 00:31:07,520 Speaker 3: It's hard to get back, you know what I mean. 658 00:31:07,640 --> 00:31:10,800 Speaker 5: So we had one eighteen out of twenty two to 659 00:31:10,920 --> 00:31:11,440 Speaker 5: get there. 660 00:31:11,880 --> 00:31:13,240 Speaker 3: Then when we got there. 661 00:31:13,120 --> 00:31:15,600 Speaker 5: It was like, you know, remember the first round we 662 00:31:15,640 --> 00:31:18,760 Speaker 5: won in game six, but I got kicked out game two. 663 00:31:19,480 --> 00:31:22,760 Speaker 3: That got kicked out. We had the frisking thing, you 664 00:31:22,800 --> 00:31:24,000 Speaker 3: know when we came home. 665 00:31:24,080 --> 00:31:26,000 Speaker 5: So it was just all kind of like then I 666 00:31:26,080 --> 00:31:27,800 Speaker 5: had to for door hat with the bullets. 667 00:31:27,840 --> 00:31:30,760 Speaker 3: They try to get me kicked out. He was suspended. 668 00:31:31,080 --> 00:31:33,680 Speaker 3: That was shit. I was saying, you know, that was 669 00:31:33,840 --> 00:31:34,800 Speaker 3: NBA fashion, bro. 670 00:31:34,880 --> 00:31:37,880 Speaker 5: It was like, way the playoffs coming, you know, ain't 671 00:31:37,880 --> 00:31:39,200 Speaker 5: nobody really dressing up? 672 00:31:39,280 --> 00:31:41,240 Speaker 1: Let me let me throw this bullet for door on. 673 00:31:41,800 --> 00:31:43,960 Speaker 1: And then that was the four tunnel fits. By the way, 674 00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:46,440 Speaker 1: I was like fits. 675 00:31:46,720 --> 00:31:48,880 Speaker 5: And then they was complaining like, oh, this fool got 676 00:31:48,960 --> 00:31:50,280 Speaker 5: live rounds in this hat. 677 00:31:50,400 --> 00:31:54,360 Speaker 3: You know what I mean? He was really wildent. It 678 00:31:57,280 --> 00:32:01,400 Speaker 3: was really wild with that. It was fashion. I bought it. 679 00:32:00,760 --> 00:32:01,920 Speaker 2: It was hard. 680 00:32:05,560 --> 00:32:08,200 Speaker 3: It wasn't like browns, it was it was hollow shells. 681 00:32:08,800 --> 00:32:10,240 Speaker 1: I just want to ask you what was going through 682 00:32:10,240 --> 00:32:12,600 Speaker 1: your mind when you dunked that though, because as a fan, 683 00:32:12,640 --> 00:32:15,000 Speaker 1: we all was watching when you dunked it and pulled 684 00:32:15,080 --> 00:32:16,720 Speaker 1: up and you'll see you had a waist trainer on. 685 00:32:17,200 --> 00:32:19,960 Speaker 1: I was like, I was like, damn, I nigga got 686 00:32:19,960 --> 00:32:20,800 Speaker 1: a waist trainer on. 687 00:32:23,200 --> 00:32:24,520 Speaker 2: They he got the first d. 688 00:32:29,280 --> 00:32:30,440 Speaker 3: You got, you got one. 689 00:32:30,520 --> 00:32:36,560 Speaker 5: Now you got the real with that you know you've 690 00:32:36,560 --> 00:32:44,720 Speaker 5: been looking awful difference since that niggas been traveling. 691 00:32:42,200 --> 00:32:48,960 Speaker 1: Shout area, and he got you right. 692 00:32:50,280 --> 00:32:53,640 Speaker 3: It was a back brace shot this back. 693 00:32:53,480 --> 00:32:56,320 Speaker 5: Brace, Oh my god, and Nellie used to get on 694 00:32:56,400 --> 00:32:59,640 Speaker 5: us about our way, so I would put this back 695 00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:02,560 Speaker 5: brace on, like get my back warm, and obviously that 696 00:33:02,680 --> 00:33:05,480 Speaker 5: came around my stomach. That's when I dunked. I just pulled. 697 00:33:05,600 --> 00:33:07,000 Speaker 5: I didn't know what the fuck to do. I didn't 698 00:33:07,040 --> 00:33:08,040 Speaker 5: even know I made. 699 00:33:07,800 --> 00:33:10,520 Speaker 3: It, you know, until I looked over the side. 700 00:33:10,360 --> 00:33:12,920 Speaker 2: And dudes, was like, na, that ship was crashing. 701 00:33:13,080 --> 00:33:16,479 Speaker 3: Was crazy. You couldn't hear nothing. I couldn't hear nothing. 702 00:33:16,920 --> 00:33:21,000 Speaker 5: All I could see was people just stun And then 703 00:33:21,040 --> 00:33:22,760 Speaker 5: that's when I was like, all right, let me, you know, 704 00:33:22,840 --> 00:33:25,000 Speaker 5: let me get my walk. And then stack came. Bro, 705 00:33:25,120 --> 00:33:27,160 Speaker 5: I was it was epic. It wasn't like none of 706 00:33:27,320 --> 00:33:29,840 Speaker 5: none of that ship was playing. I just put my 707 00:33:29,880 --> 00:33:32,600 Speaker 5: shirt up, like get in my belly because I used 708 00:33:32,600 --> 00:33:33,160 Speaker 5: to play. 709 00:33:33,400 --> 00:33:34,960 Speaker 3: I used to be like fat bastard. 710 00:33:35,080 --> 00:33:36,840 Speaker 5: You used to say that ship in practice all the 711 00:33:36,880 --> 00:33:39,000 Speaker 5: time because Nelly used to fuck with me about my way. 712 00:33:39,920 --> 00:33:41,560 Speaker 2: So that ship was crazy. 713 00:33:41,560 --> 00:33:45,080 Speaker 1: That's probably top five dunks, bro, especially in the playoffs. 714 00:33:45,400 --> 00:33:47,160 Speaker 3: It was, it was, it was. It was cool. 715 00:33:47,160 --> 00:33:49,400 Speaker 5: I knew I was gonna get him now because he 716 00:33:49,440 --> 00:33:53,000 Speaker 5: winked at me to play before. Oh so you got 717 00:33:53,000 --> 00:33:55,280 Speaker 5: to watch the play before because I did the same 718 00:33:55,360 --> 00:33:58,920 Speaker 5: exact move and I laid it up and he was 719 00:33:58,960 --> 00:34:01,800 Speaker 5: standing under the base line right there. And when I 720 00:34:01,880 --> 00:34:03,600 Speaker 5: laid it up, he looked at me when he took 721 00:34:03,600 --> 00:34:04,120 Speaker 5: the ball out and. 722 00:34:04,120 --> 00:34:08,560 Speaker 3: He was like, all right, let me meet you. So 723 00:34:08,600 --> 00:34:10,320 Speaker 3: I was like, I'm about to try this shit again. 724 00:34:10,400 --> 00:34:12,879 Speaker 5: I said, if I if I get there, I'm gonna 725 00:34:12,920 --> 00:34:15,960 Speaker 5: try it. But when I got and I turned the corner, 726 00:34:16,080 --> 00:34:18,319 Speaker 5: he was right in the same spot. I said, man, 727 00:34:18,320 --> 00:34:22,800 Speaker 5: I'm about to try this, dude. And and when I 728 00:34:22,880 --> 00:34:25,960 Speaker 5: dunked it, I thought the ball had bounced up, but 729 00:34:26,360 --> 00:34:29,000 Speaker 5: it was like deafinite. Everybody was just like I saw 730 00:34:29,360 --> 00:34:31,000 Speaker 5: Donald Foyle, like, oh my god. 731 00:34:31,080 --> 00:34:33,520 Speaker 3: I was like, shot his ass, you know what I mean. 732 00:34:34,400 --> 00:34:36,520 Speaker 2: My favorite dunk you had was against Jermaine o'nil. 733 00:34:36,560 --> 00:34:36,759 Speaker 3: Though. 734 00:34:38,800 --> 00:34:41,080 Speaker 1: That ship was nasty. I got tap into YouTube. I 735 00:34:41,280 --> 00:34:45,920 Speaker 1: ain't seen it your research one in Charlotte. It was nasty. 736 00:34:46,440 --> 00:34:49,880 Speaker 5: It was fun, man, I think for me, uh like 737 00:34:50,600 --> 00:34:53,480 Speaker 5: people always think that, oh he was a dunking point guard, 738 00:34:53,560 --> 00:34:56,040 Speaker 5: you know, like I ain't even like I wasn't even 739 00:34:56,080 --> 00:34:58,080 Speaker 5: tripping on that shit. I just like dunking because I 740 00:34:58,120 --> 00:35:02,480 Speaker 5: could dunk. But I was more into like passing, you know, 741 00:35:02,640 --> 00:35:04,799 Speaker 5: like the bot like trying to create my own bop. 742 00:35:05,400 --> 00:35:07,759 Speaker 5: But I always get credit for like now you the 743 00:35:07,800 --> 00:35:10,520 Speaker 5: first you the first exposive point guard in the league. 744 00:35:10,760 --> 00:35:13,600 Speaker 1: No, but I watched you at like EBC in New 745 00:35:13,680 --> 00:35:14,520 Speaker 1: York and stuff. 746 00:35:14,280 --> 00:35:15,600 Speaker 3: So we I'm a fan. 747 00:35:15,719 --> 00:35:18,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, bro, I already knew you had handles, you can create, 748 00:35:18,880 --> 00:35:19,520 Speaker 1: you can pass. 749 00:35:19,600 --> 00:35:21,640 Speaker 2: And my my best friend back home named. 750 00:35:21,480 --> 00:35:25,360 Speaker 7: Phield out the field, he like your biggest fan, like 751 00:35:25,520 --> 00:35:28,799 Speaker 7: I feel you really really so he was real for real, like. 752 00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:30,919 Speaker 2: He posted your hoghl like take at least once a month. 753 00:35:31,120 --> 00:35:37,759 Speaker 1: I'm like, all right, my nigga postline with you for 754 00:35:37,800 --> 00:35:40,600 Speaker 1: really for real. But he kept like he had put 755 00:35:40,640 --> 00:35:42,520 Speaker 1: me on the way you play. He like, bro, you 756 00:35:42,600 --> 00:35:44,319 Speaker 1: tripped and he the best point guard because I used 757 00:35:44,320 --> 00:35:46,400 Speaker 1: to like steph Ma mar Berry too. Then I was 758 00:35:46,480 --> 00:35:49,560 Speaker 1: I started watching you play. I'm like, damn, I'm trying 759 00:35:49,560 --> 00:35:52,080 Speaker 1: to play like that. You're throwing it around people here 760 00:35:52,160 --> 00:35:54,240 Speaker 1: ship I'm like, oh yeah, this kind of ship out. 761 00:35:54,120 --> 00:35:57,359 Speaker 4: Like you had the size of Ventage too though. That's 762 00:35:57,360 --> 00:35:59,400 Speaker 4: why I was like, damn, this niggas a little heavy. 763 00:35:59,840 --> 00:36:01,600 Speaker 2: Now I had to go for him. 764 00:36:01,640 --> 00:36:01,799 Speaker 3: Bro. 765 00:36:02,360 --> 00:36:04,160 Speaker 2: The first time I stepped on the court, I'm a fan. 766 00:36:04,239 --> 00:36:06,479 Speaker 3: I'm looking. I'm like, I don't funk this. 767 00:36:08,440 --> 00:36:09,720 Speaker 2: Want eighty at my best. 768 00:36:10,160 --> 00:36:12,399 Speaker 1: I'm like, man, funk I'm guard him and you know him, 769 00:36:12,400 --> 00:36:13,800 Speaker 1: he come in like what the fuck? 770 00:36:14,840 --> 00:36:17,560 Speaker 2: I said, Ship, I'm trying to be hard. 771 00:36:17,600 --> 00:36:25,800 Speaker 7: I don't get what what's up? I was scared to say. 772 00:36:25,480 --> 00:36:27,879 Speaker 5: Same thing, bro. I think it's when you're young, you're 773 00:36:27,880 --> 00:36:31,560 Speaker 5: a rookie and uh, you going up against some dude. 774 00:36:31,600 --> 00:36:34,520 Speaker 5: Because I was like that with GP, and I was like, damn, 775 00:36:34,560 --> 00:36:36,480 Speaker 5: this this fool got me on the block, you know 776 00:36:36,520 --> 00:36:38,280 Speaker 5: what I mean. Like I was like, Yo, do whatever 777 00:36:38,280 --> 00:36:41,800 Speaker 5: you do, don't let GP push you up because elbow 778 00:36:41,840 --> 00:36:45,520 Speaker 5: you you know what I mean, It's like run, damn 779 00:36:45,600 --> 00:36:46,520 Speaker 5: he turn his spin. 780 00:36:47,200 --> 00:36:50,000 Speaker 3: Can't ask for the ball, man, I was. I was 781 00:36:50,040 --> 00:36:53,640 Speaker 3: elbow called the file. 782 00:36:57,000 --> 00:36:59,480 Speaker 5: Was scary, you know, when you're young and he's like, damn, 783 00:36:59,480 --> 00:37:01,759 Speaker 5: that's get Damn, that's Jake Kidd. 784 00:37:01,960 --> 00:37:03,160 Speaker 3: Damn, that's Iverson. 785 00:37:03,360 --> 00:37:06,799 Speaker 5: Yeah, that's Malberry Stephan Marberry, did me so cold my 786 00:37:06,880 --> 00:37:09,520 Speaker 5: rookie year I had just got in the game. 787 00:37:10,360 --> 00:37:11,600 Speaker 3: He was hot. 788 00:37:11,880 --> 00:37:13,919 Speaker 5: You go to the whole scorem and get an an one, 789 00:37:14,160 --> 00:37:16,279 Speaker 5: shoot a three. He had already had like twenty four 790 00:37:16,320 --> 00:37:18,400 Speaker 5: in the first half. He ain't get an an one. 791 00:37:18,440 --> 00:37:21,600 Speaker 3: He's like these you can't hold me. 792 00:37:21,920 --> 00:37:23,520 Speaker 5: And he was like, oh me, you know what I mean, 793 00:37:23,560 --> 00:37:25,960 Speaker 5: Like in my face, Ellen, and I ain't know what 794 00:37:26,000 --> 00:37:27,320 Speaker 5: to do, you know, I'm like, damn. 795 00:37:28,120 --> 00:37:29,920 Speaker 3: Elvin Campbell was like, oh, you're gonna. 796 00:37:29,719 --> 00:37:32,759 Speaker 7: Let him talk to you like that. It's a song 797 00:37:32,880 --> 00:37:37,799 Speaker 7: after the game. I mean, like, you know, because you know, 798 00:37:37,880 --> 00:37:40,800 Speaker 7: I don't I don't really be talking. I don't talk trash, 799 00:37:40,920 --> 00:37:42,319 Speaker 7: you know what I mean. I'm not like out there 800 00:37:42,360 --> 00:37:45,120 Speaker 7: talking trash. So my natural response is. 801 00:37:45,080 --> 00:37:47,560 Speaker 5: Like, all right, dude, I'm about to close line this, dude, 802 00:37:47,880 --> 00:37:50,160 Speaker 5: you know what I mean. Like I was just automatically mad. 803 00:37:50,200 --> 00:37:54,320 Speaker 5: But it was like you just nervous playing against dudes 804 00:37:54,360 --> 00:37:58,080 Speaker 5: you watch play or somebody that you heard about that 805 00:37:58,200 --> 00:38:01,919 Speaker 5: you're like, damn, Like I know I watched him play, 806 00:38:01,920 --> 00:38:03,960 Speaker 5: but I never played against him. Like you always got 807 00:38:03,960 --> 00:38:05,840 Speaker 5: that little nervous And that's what makes the league so 808 00:38:05,960 --> 00:38:09,480 Speaker 5: fun because then full circle, come back. I'm playing with 809 00:38:09,520 --> 00:38:13,320 Speaker 5: the Knicks, and you know, I'm struggling at this point. 810 00:38:13,360 --> 00:38:17,399 Speaker 5: I'm like older, my body breaking down, and this fun 811 00:38:17,560 --> 00:38:17,960 Speaker 5: right here. 812 00:38:18,040 --> 00:38:18,479 Speaker 3: He just. 813 00:38:21,000 --> 00:38:24,319 Speaker 5: Like just fucking me up and talking ship the whole time. 814 00:38:24,360 --> 00:38:27,239 Speaker 5: And I'm like, why is this motherfucker talking ship to me? 815 00:38:27,320 --> 00:38:27,879 Speaker 3: You know what I mean? 816 00:38:27,960 --> 00:38:30,359 Speaker 5: Like like I ain't didn't, I don't even know this dude. 817 00:38:30,400 --> 00:38:32,960 Speaker 5: I ain't even I don't know him. I ain't saying 818 00:38:33,000 --> 00:38:36,040 Speaker 5: nothing to him, but he just you can't. You can't 819 00:38:36,040 --> 00:38:37,920 Speaker 5: fuck with me, old ass. Get his old ass off 820 00:38:37,920 --> 00:38:41,080 Speaker 5: the court. And Mellow at some point Mellow was like, hey, bro, 821 00:38:41,160 --> 00:38:43,120 Speaker 5: you gotta stop let him talk to you like that. 822 00:38:44,680 --> 00:38:47,800 Speaker 3: Don't trip Mellow. I'm gonna catch him in the summer. 823 00:38:51,040 --> 00:38:53,680 Speaker 3: I don't know what else to do. Hey, that's why 824 00:38:53,719 --> 00:38:54,640 Speaker 3: Jeff never played here. 825 00:39:00,719 --> 00:39:06,799 Speaker 2: I wasn't said that. I ain't been to THEE. You're 826 00:39:06,800 --> 00:39:07,560 Speaker 2: not speaking of that. 827 00:39:07,880 --> 00:39:10,360 Speaker 1: A lot of people don't know like your involvement behind 828 00:39:10,400 --> 00:39:12,320 Speaker 1: those two things, Like for me, like Rico Haines is 829 00:39:12,360 --> 00:39:13,840 Speaker 1: like a YouTube, so I look forward to. 830 00:39:13,840 --> 00:39:15,240 Speaker 2: The area summer to see them runs. 831 00:39:15,360 --> 00:39:17,640 Speaker 1: And then like you talk about the Drew League, Like 832 00:39:18,160 --> 00:39:19,839 Speaker 1: how is that like being a part of two things 833 00:39:19,920 --> 00:39:22,080 Speaker 1: is so important in basketball, Like you have your direct 834 00:39:22,120 --> 00:39:22,920 Speaker 1: fingerprint on that. 835 00:39:23,080 --> 00:39:25,520 Speaker 5: Yeah, I would think, I would say for me, Uh, 836 00:39:25,840 --> 00:39:28,839 Speaker 5: when I came in the league, it was a lot 837 00:39:28,840 --> 00:39:33,440 Speaker 5: of LA players, but they won't like LA famous, you 838 00:39:33,480 --> 00:39:35,080 Speaker 5: know what I mean. They all went off to college 839 00:39:35,120 --> 00:39:38,080 Speaker 5: and other colleges and shit like that. So for me, 840 00:39:38,160 --> 00:39:40,040 Speaker 5: it was like, man, I gotta do something for the 841 00:39:40,080 --> 00:39:44,000 Speaker 5: next generation, cause like LA don't get no credit. Like 842 00:39:44,080 --> 00:39:47,480 Speaker 5: I'm out here and I ain't seeing it. The hommies 843 00:39:47,520 --> 00:39:49,680 Speaker 5: back home is better than a lot of these dudes. 844 00:39:49,680 --> 00:39:54,160 Speaker 5: So like I wanted to invest my time in the 845 00:39:54,160 --> 00:39:58,560 Speaker 5: next generation, you know, James Pool, you know, uh, all 846 00:39:58,680 --> 00:40:02,200 Speaker 5: them dudes, Bobby Brown, Trevor drel Right. Like, it was like, Yo, 847 00:40:02,239 --> 00:40:06,040 Speaker 5: if we can create some that's dope for us in LA, 848 00:40:06,200 --> 00:40:07,680 Speaker 5: then we can make LA. 849 00:40:07,880 --> 00:40:09,319 Speaker 3: Like the Rutger, we got the. 850 00:40:09,320 --> 00:40:12,279 Speaker 5: Drew, We got the real run over here, and so 851 00:40:12,480 --> 00:40:14,799 Speaker 5: it was first like get the real run cracking, and 852 00:40:14,840 --> 00:40:18,040 Speaker 5: then the Drew was like the Jew was already in 853 00:40:18,120 --> 00:40:20,759 Speaker 5: the hood, so nobody was going to the Drew. I 854 00:40:20,800 --> 00:40:24,799 Speaker 5: took Tyerynlu to the Jew, though I took Tlu to 855 00:40:24,800 --> 00:40:26,279 Speaker 5: the Jew when he was playing for the Lakers, and 856 00:40:26,280 --> 00:40:27,959 Speaker 5: he was like, hey, bro, don't ever take me down. 857 00:40:29,000 --> 00:40:30,560 Speaker 5: I'm cool, you know what I mean. I don't need 858 00:40:30,640 --> 00:40:34,240 Speaker 5: a Saturday Sunday morning run like that. Like I'm cool. 859 00:40:34,680 --> 00:40:37,319 Speaker 5: It's twelve dudes in the gym and they all talking shit. 860 00:40:37,800 --> 00:40:39,440 Speaker 5: Three of them got Jerry Curls, you. 861 00:40:39,480 --> 00:40:39,960 Speaker 3: Know what I mean. 862 00:40:41,000 --> 00:40:44,200 Speaker 5: And so I think for for La, it was like, man, 863 00:40:44,280 --> 00:40:47,520 Speaker 5: be a staple, be a staple, you know what I mean. 864 00:40:47,640 --> 00:40:51,600 Speaker 3: And with the Jew it was sitting right there and 865 00:40:51,880 --> 00:40:55,240 Speaker 3: Pool Lb, Trevor. 866 00:40:55,480 --> 00:41:01,600 Speaker 5: The Year of the Lockout, Clake Thomas, Jabelle McGee, Javel, 867 00:41:02,200 --> 00:41:07,000 Speaker 5: who else, James, All them dudes was hooping in the 868 00:41:07,120 --> 00:41:10,680 Speaker 5: Drew Craig Smith. It was a bunch of dudes. And 869 00:41:10,719 --> 00:41:13,200 Speaker 5: I came back and I was like, damn, like y'all 870 00:41:13,280 --> 00:41:17,520 Speaker 5: the next wave. I want to invest my time and y'all. 871 00:41:17,719 --> 00:41:22,440 Speaker 5: And then when Rico, Rico was coaching, not coaching, training, 872 00:41:22,560 --> 00:41:27,000 Speaker 5: not not training and uh here he uh I think 873 00:41:27,000 --> 00:41:30,359 Speaker 5: it was at Saint John's and then he was like, man, 874 00:41:30,400 --> 00:41:31,960 Speaker 5: I don't know what I'm doing. I want to do this. 875 00:41:32,120 --> 00:41:34,680 Speaker 5: I said, Bro, We're gonna create a logo, go back 876 00:41:34,719 --> 00:41:37,319 Speaker 5: to UCLA. We're gonna start filming and we're gonna make 877 00:41:37,360 --> 00:41:41,120 Speaker 5: you like our version of the West Coast Chris Brinkley. 878 00:41:41,600 --> 00:41:43,840 Speaker 5: That's real mean, And so shout out to Chris Brinkley 879 00:41:43,880 --> 00:41:46,080 Speaker 5: because he was doing me and I was like, Rico, 880 00:41:46,120 --> 00:41:48,480 Speaker 5: that's all you need to do. So we put the 881 00:41:48,520 --> 00:41:52,200 Speaker 5: cameras on Rico and then that's how now his ship 882 00:41:52,320 --> 00:41:56,840 Speaker 5: is cracking. Mot godfather for Shure Bro. That's that's you know, 883 00:41:56,880 --> 00:42:00,400 Speaker 5: that's my whole thing in LA. Like a lot of 884 00:42:00,480 --> 00:42:03,680 Speaker 5: dudes may not give me credit. A lot of dudes 885 00:42:03,680 --> 00:42:06,520 Speaker 5: may not, you know, or they may, but my goal 886 00:42:06,640 --> 00:42:10,120 Speaker 5: was just to stand behind people or beat the ladder 887 00:42:10,440 --> 00:42:12,640 Speaker 5: as somebody need push a ladder to him, you know 888 00:42:12,680 --> 00:42:15,440 Speaker 5: what I mean, or push an opportunity to him. So 889 00:42:15,520 --> 00:42:18,840 Speaker 5: it was you know who off court on court, like 890 00:42:18,840 --> 00:42:21,600 Speaker 5: how do we bring this whole whole little thing together? 891 00:42:22,080 --> 00:42:22,520 Speaker 2: For sure? 892 00:42:22,600 --> 00:42:24,560 Speaker 1: I mean, and before we off this point like for 893 00:42:24,680 --> 00:42:28,120 Speaker 1: me loving YouTube and like loving basketball to see y'all 894 00:42:28,120 --> 00:42:31,080 Speaker 1: document like Kobe pulling up to the drew, which crazy, 895 00:42:31,600 --> 00:42:33,360 Speaker 1: like that's a big moment for a lot of people 896 00:42:33,360 --> 00:42:36,439 Speaker 1: in basketball because they changed a lot of jergy. 897 00:42:36,160 --> 00:42:38,279 Speaker 2: For that, Eric kids, and like you said, for the 898 00:42:38,320 --> 00:42:38,920 Speaker 2: drew itself. 899 00:42:39,200 --> 00:42:45,520 Speaker 5: Man, that the Kobe moment, I wasn't there cause I 900 00:42:45,800 --> 00:42:50,120 Speaker 5: brought Lebron, Yes, sir, the day before, literally the day before, 901 00:42:51,040 --> 00:42:55,520 Speaker 5: show you Kobe power though, find out Lebron oh Lebron. 902 00:42:55,560 --> 00:42:57,400 Speaker 3: After Drew, everybody going crazy. 903 00:42:57,520 --> 00:43:01,640 Speaker 5: Right about six o'clock, somebody like, yo, Kobe coming up 904 00:43:01,680 --> 00:43:05,640 Speaker 5: here tomorrow, Like who is Monday? He's like, so what 905 00:43:05,880 --> 00:43:08,759 Speaker 5: Kobe said he wanted to get a game in. I 906 00:43:08,840 --> 00:43:12,880 Speaker 5: was like, all right, like, who's gonna play? I go 907 00:43:12,960 --> 00:43:15,520 Speaker 5: out of I go out of town. Everybody and their 908 00:43:15,600 --> 00:43:20,080 Speaker 5: mama showed up on Monday. Doug, it wasn't even a Lebron. 909 00:43:20,280 --> 00:43:22,640 Speaker 5: We brought him to the Drew to play in the game. 910 00:43:23,400 --> 00:43:25,359 Speaker 5: Kobe was sitting at home, was like, hold on, let's 911 00:43:25,400 --> 00:43:29,600 Speaker 5: set this up for me. Every pro, every young pro 912 00:43:29,760 --> 00:43:32,880 Speaker 5: came out and it was up. I think that turned 913 00:43:32,920 --> 00:43:38,840 Speaker 5: the corner for LA because now, like Kobe was right there, 914 00:43:39,040 --> 00:43:41,239 Speaker 5: you never seen Kobe, you know what I mean, Like, 915 00:43:41,480 --> 00:43:43,759 Speaker 5: especially the young dudes, like you don't never see Coche. 916 00:43:43,840 --> 00:43:44,560 Speaker 3: That's Kobe. 917 00:43:45,280 --> 00:43:47,920 Speaker 5: Kobe came to the Kobe came to the hood by 918 00:43:47,960 --> 00:43:49,680 Speaker 5: itself on his own. 919 00:43:49,719 --> 00:43:51,839 Speaker 3: Marrior. Now that that's you know what I mean? 920 00:43:51,880 --> 00:43:54,839 Speaker 5: On the East Side. So Kobe coming to the East 921 00:43:54,920 --> 00:43:58,879 Speaker 5: Side was way bigger than it, you know what I mean, 922 00:43:58,920 --> 00:44:01,600 Speaker 5: It's way bigger. New was because you know, he had 923 00:44:01,600 --> 00:44:02,399 Speaker 5: God out there. 924 00:44:02,680 --> 00:44:04,799 Speaker 3: Facts, bro, Like we watched Kobe grow up. 925 00:44:04,880 --> 00:44:08,400 Speaker 5: So for him coming to the hood that day, it's like, 926 00:44:08,840 --> 00:44:12,200 Speaker 5: it's just like layers, Kobe here, Kobe here, like you bullshit, 927 00:44:12,280 --> 00:44:15,239 Speaker 5: Kobe here, Kobe here, where nobody can get in the gym, 928 00:44:15,280 --> 00:44:17,799 Speaker 5: nobody can get in the park. And the fact that 929 00:44:18,600 --> 00:44:21,640 Speaker 5: shout out to Josiah Johnson and Chris Young, Yes, sir, 930 00:44:22,040 --> 00:44:25,719 Speaker 5: they have to where with all the filming, cold bro, 931 00:44:25,800 --> 00:44:29,000 Speaker 5: That's why I knew James Harden was real though, Yeah, 932 00:44:29,160 --> 00:44:33,640 Speaker 5: Jamess like grooming James was like grooming himself. James studied Kobe, 933 00:44:34,120 --> 00:44:36,319 Speaker 5: you know what I mean, And so James got a 934 00:44:36,320 --> 00:44:41,279 Speaker 5: lot of just like of that offensive for sure, repertoire, 935 00:44:41,600 --> 00:44:42,120 Speaker 5: you know what I mean. 936 00:44:42,680 --> 00:44:46,040 Speaker 4: Say for sure, when did you start thinking about like 937 00:44:46,200 --> 00:44:49,239 Speaker 4: life after basketball, Like what point of your career did 938 00:44:49,280 --> 00:44:51,719 Speaker 4: you start thinking about other business endeavors like. 939 00:44:53,080 --> 00:44:58,600 Speaker 5: Who after my first contract? Wow, I wanted to make 940 00:44:58,640 --> 00:45:02,080 Speaker 5: it to the NBA. I wanted to get a rookie contract, 941 00:45:02,200 --> 00:45:04,799 Speaker 5: and if I got a rokie contract, it was going 942 00:45:04,880 --> 00:45:06,920 Speaker 5: to be enough to last me for the rest of 943 00:45:06,960 --> 00:45:07,400 Speaker 5: my life. 944 00:45:07,680 --> 00:45:08,080 Speaker 3: That's real. 945 00:45:08,520 --> 00:45:11,799 Speaker 5: I tore my a cl in college ACL surgeries was like, 946 00:45:12,320 --> 00:45:13,240 Speaker 5: you don't know how much. 947 00:45:13,320 --> 00:45:14,400 Speaker 3: How long you got. 948 00:45:15,040 --> 00:45:18,799 Speaker 5: And in that era, it was like after your rookie deal, 949 00:45:18,920 --> 00:45:22,480 Speaker 5: if you ain't cracking you out, you know what I mean, 950 00:45:22,560 --> 00:45:25,640 Speaker 5: especially for a point guard, like or are you backing up? 951 00:45:25,719 --> 00:45:26,480 Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. 952 00:45:26,600 --> 00:45:29,359 Speaker 5: So for me, it was like once I once I 953 00:45:29,400 --> 00:45:33,239 Speaker 5: got the MAX, I was like, okay, I'm a businessman now, 954 00:45:33,320 --> 00:45:35,520 Speaker 5: you know what I mean. And I did my own deal, 955 00:45:36,080 --> 00:45:38,720 Speaker 5: so I was my own agent in the deal. Yeah, 956 00:45:38,760 --> 00:45:41,880 Speaker 5: So that's what made me all that fun. That's what 957 00:45:42,320 --> 00:45:44,799 Speaker 5: sent me to like, oh shit, like I gotta take 958 00:45:44,800 --> 00:45:47,960 Speaker 5: care of myself. I got a fin for myself. Like 959 00:45:48,000 --> 00:45:51,000 Speaker 5: it was a good idea to like not have an agent. 960 00:45:51,239 --> 00:45:53,920 Speaker 5: But at the same time, like bro, I didn't have 961 00:45:53,960 --> 00:45:56,520 Speaker 5: an agent. I was like twenty two years old and 962 00:45:56,560 --> 00:46:01,920 Speaker 5: it was me. Rico tdd Ramazar Earl was around us, 963 00:46:02,440 --> 00:46:05,800 Speaker 5: but he was hooping and still in college. Ray young 964 00:46:06,440 --> 00:46:07,880 Speaker 5: and it was just like my U, we're like a 965 00:46:07,920 --> 00:46:11,880 Speaker 5: real life entourage. And it was like just trying to navigate, 966 00:46:12,120 --> 00:46:14,800 Speaker 5: you know, the league and say yes, and no the deals. 967 00:46:15,320 --> 00:46:17,279 Speaker 5: You know, we were like, man, I was like, fuck it, 968 00:46:17,920 --> 00:46:20,920 Speaker 5: if I put anybody on, I won't put the hummies on. 969 00:46:22,600 --> 00:46:24,400 Speaker 3: And so they want to be in the league. 970 00:46:24,560 --> 00:46:26,600 Speaker 5: They want to be agents, they want to be coaches, 971 00:46:27,160 --> 00:46:29,480 Speaker 5: right like, man, y'all just rock with me, you know 972 00:46:29,520 --> 00:46:31,680 Speaker 5: what I mean. And anytime we get a call or 973 00:46:32,040 --> 00:46:34,160 Speaker 5: we had a little po box set up, you know, 974 00:46:34,239 --> 00:46:36,479 Speaker 5: back in the day, so anything went to the po box, 975 00:46:36,520 --> 00:46:39,120 Speaker 5: we sit there, we'd be chopping it up and be like, 976 00:46:39,160 --> 00:46:40,919 Speaker 5: all right, I want to do that. All right, let's 977 00:46:40,960 --> 00:46:42,279 Speaker 5: go there, you know what I mean. So it was 978 00:46:42,320 --> 00:46:47,399 Speaker 5: always like use me to get in. I don't think 979 00:46:47,400 --> 00:46:51,480 Speaker 5: I ever approached the league after that as like it's 980 00:46:51,520 --> 00:46:54,120 Speaker 5: all about me, you know what I mean. Like I 981 00:46:54,680 --> 00:46:57,759 Speaker 5: wasn't like the person that was like, you know, basketball 982 00:46:57,840 --> 00:47:01,319 Speaker 5: is everything and it's my creativity, my piece. But it 983 00:47:01,400 --> 00:47:04,920 Speaker 5: was always like, damn, dude, I'm here. How many who 984 00:47:04,960 --> 00:47:05,560 Speaker 5: can I help? 985 00:47:06,080 --> 00:47:07,160 Speaker 3: Wrong? You know what I mean? 986 00:47:07,239 --> 00:47:08,880 Speaker 5: Like, who can I help? Because I was I'm just 987 00:47:08,920 --> 00:47:10,640 Speaker 5: a fan of the game. So to be on the 988 00:47:10,640 --> 00:47:13,600 Speaker 5: court with these dudes and to play against an Iverson 989 00:47:13,719 --> 00:47:14,240 Speaker 5: or a Mall. 990 00:47:14,120 --> 00:47:15,600 Speaker 3: Bear, It's like, man, I'd have made it. 991 00:47:15,640 --> 00:47:17,759 Speaker 5: You know what I mean, how can I help other 992 00:47:17,800 --> 00:47:20,800 Speaker 5: people get in this space because it can save lives, 993 00:47:20,840 --> 00:47:21,640 Speaker 5: you know, for show? 994 00:47:21,680 --> 00:47:24,080 Speaker 1: And I think like now you would have really really 995 00:47:24,120 --> 00:47:26,560 Speaker 1: throw up today the way that the NBA endorses people 996 00:47:26,560 --> 00:47:28,520 Speaker 1: to show their brand and creativity and stuff like that, 997 00:47:28,520 --> 00:47:30,960 Speaker 1: because obviously you want the most credit people to ever 998 00:47:31,000 --> 00:47:33,960 Speaker 1: touch a basketball, then you use the NBA program, Like 999 00:47:34,080 --> 00:47:35,960 Speaker 1: how was that coming about? Like you said, all right, now, 1000 00:47:36,000 --> 00:47:38,719 Speaker 1: I'm a businessman. I got this relationship with the league. 1001 00:47:38,719 --> 00:47:40,239 Speaker 1: I'm gonna just use this to build my brand to 1002 00:47:40,239 --> 00:47:41,359 Speaker 1: help everybody else, he too. 1003 00:47:42,000 --> 00:47:45,600 Speaker 3: Man, it was just I was doing whatever I wanted 1004 00:47:45,640 --> 00:47:47,080 Speaker 3: to do. Honest, that's far. 1005 00:47:47,239 --> 00:47:49,600 Speaker 5: You know, you're twenty three, you got a lot of money, 1006 00:47:50,480 --> 00:47:55,080 Speaker 5: you have no mentors, you have nobody. 1007 00:47:54,640 --> 00:47:55,560 Speaker 3: Leading you know what I mean. 1008 00:47:55,600 --> 00:47:57,880 Speaker 5: It was like I was really like really one of 1009 00:47:57,920 --> 00:48:01,480 Speaker 5: the first ones I was like from LA to do it. 1010 00:48:01,520 --> 00:48:04,799 Speaker 5: So it wasn't like older people reaching out like yo, 1011 00:48:04,880 --> 00:48:06,640 Speaker 5: you're trying to do that, let me help you out, 1012 00:48:06,800 --> 00:48:08,520 Speaker 5: you know what I mean. It was more so like, 1013 00:48:08,600 --> 00:48:10,560 Speaker 5: oh shit, like let me see I can get on. 1014 00:48:10,760 --> 00:48:14,319 Speaker 5: Everybody was like really just like trying to get on, 1015 00:48:14,560 --> 00:48:17,120 Speaker 5: trying to get on, trying to get on So for me, 1016 00:48:17,280 --> 00:48:19,640 Speaker 5: I was just like, I'm just gonna do all this 1017 00:48:19,640 --> 00:48:23,399 Speaker 5: shit myself. I'm gonna take the experience. I'm gonna learn 1018 00:48:23,440 --> 00:48:27,200 Speaker 5: the experience, and then I'm gonna figure out along the 1019 00:48:27,239 --> 00:48:28,920 Speaker 5: way what worked for me. 1020 00:48:29,520 --> 00:48:29,759 Speaker 3: Right. 1021 00:48:29,920 --> 00:48:33,719 Speaker 5: And so even though I'm in the NBA my business 1022 00:48:33,880 --> 00:48:38,239 Speaker 5: as an agent, I'm outsider looking in. So I got 1023 00:48:38,239 --> 00:48:41,960 Speaker 5: to make relationships with the equipment manager, with the VP 1024 00:48:42,080 --> 00:48:45,120 Speaker 5: of marketing, with the salesperson, like I need to know 1025 00:48:45,160 --> 00:48:48,759 Speaker 5: what everybody do, so they don't know I ain't got 1026 00:48:48,800 --> 00:48:49,200 Speaker 5: no agent. 1027 00:48:49,320 --> 00:48:52,120 Speaker 3: Someone I'm asking questions, you know what I mean. I 1028 00:48:52,160 --> 00:48:53,680 Speaker 3: come up on the deal, you know what I mean. 1029 00:48:53,719 --> 00:48:56,880 Speaker 5: And that's how that's what happened with Vitamin Water. I 1030 00:48:56,920 --> 00:49:01,440 Speaker 5: was with Sprite in my REP. Fright was leaving Sprite 1031 00:49:01,440 --> 00:49:04,520 Speaker 5: to go to bidamin Water, and I didn't understand, Like, 1032 00:49:04,600 --> 00:49:07,560 Speaker 5: I could not understand why he was leaving and taking 1033 00:49:07,640 --> 00:49:10,839 Speaker 5: less money to go to a company that like wasn't 1034 00:49:10,880 --> 00:49:12,080 Speaker 5: even a big company. 1035 00:49:12,640 --> 00:49:14,040 Speaker 3: And that's how I learned startup. 1036 00:49:15,080 --> 00:49:17,360 Speaker 5: And he told me like, this is a startup company, 1037 00:49:17,360 --> 00:49:19,120 Speaker 5: and I was like, what the fuck is the startup company? 1038 00:49:19,160 --> 00:49:22,520 Speaker 5: It was like, oh, that's how remember power Ad got 1039 00:49:22,520 --> 00:49:25,560 Speaker 5: bought at eighty million dollars. I was like, damn, if 1040 00:49:25,560 --> 00:49:30,479 Speaker 5: I take this Sprite money for three years, like cool, 1041 00:49:30,520 --> 00:49:32,960 Speaker 5: I'll be cool. I may get a commercial. I ain't 1042 00:49:33,000 --> 00:49:36,520 Speaker 5: getting no commercial, you know what I mean. I'm gonna 1043 00:49:36,520 --> 00:49:39,080 Speaker 5: go and take this Vitamin Water deal because I'm already 1044 00:49:39,080 --> 00:49:42,080 Speaker 5: on billboards out here and I could use my leverage 1045 00:49:42,120 --> 00:49:45,319 Speaker 5: to help them get in the game equity. And that's 1046 00:49:45,320 --> 00:49:47,719 Speaker 5: how it happened. And I was like, I want to 1047 00:49:47,800 --> 00:49:50,399 Speaker 5: learn marketing because that was my home. I was like, yo, 1048 00:49:50,400 --> 00:49:52,600 Speaker 5: if you leave it, I'm going with you. Just teach 1049 00:49:52,640 --> 00:49:55,120 Speaker 5: me how to do, like, teach me marketing codes and 1050 00:49:55,160 --> 00:49:58,840 Speaker 5: like the things y'all look for to like build the brand. 1051 00:49:58,880 --> 00:50:01,960 Speaker 5: So I was there and I watched Vitamin Water hire 1052 00:50:02,320 --> 00:50:05,000 Speaker 5: the right people, put all the right people in position, 1053 00:50:05,239 --> 00:50:07,839 Speaker 5: bring in rock stars and the brand. Just like by 1054 00:50:07,880 --> 00:50:10,000 Speaker 5: the time I got here in Golden State. I remember 1055 00:50:10,040 --> 00:50:13,680 Speaker 5: I went to a conference and it was in Oakland 1056 00:50:13,680 --> 00:50:16,319 Speaker 5: at like the Hilton or something. It was like five 1057 00:50:16,400 --> 00:50:20,200 Speaker 5: hundred sales reps in there. I was like, damn, y'all 1058 00:50:20,239 --> 00:50:22,560 Speaker 5: moving up, you know what I mean? And it was 1059 00:50:22,600 --> 00:50:24,640 Speaker 5: cool because I got a chance to be a part 1060 00:50:24,760 --> 00:50:29,080 Speaker 5: of a company in my journey that started after me 1061 00:50:29,719 --> 00:50:33,480 Speaker 5: and finished way before me in accelerated time. So they 1062 00:50:33,520 --> 00:50:36,920 Speaker 5: went from fifteen to thirty million dollar company to a 1063 00:50:36,920 --> 00:50:38,120 Speaker 5: four billion dollar exit. 1064 00:50:38,640 --> 00:50:39,319 Speaker 3: Crazy bro. 1065 00:50:40,160 --> 00:50:42,200 Speaker 4: So that was your first that was your first initial 1066 00:50:42,239 --> 00:50:43,439 Speaker 4: investment wasamin Water. 1067 00:50:43,520 --> 00:50:45,520 Speaker 3: That was my first investment. That was my first time. 1068 00:50:45,560 --> 00:50:48,759 Speaker 5: I was like, you know what, ain't nobody doing equity 1069 00:50:48,840 --> 00:50:51,520 Speaker 5: deals for they brand, you know what I mean? And 1070 00:50:51,600 --> 00:50:54,120 Speaker 5: investing income People weren't really doing that. It was buying 1071 00:50:54,200 --> 00:50:58,280 Speaker 5: car washes, restaurant you know what I mean, restaurants, fast food, changed, 1072 00:50:58,360 --> 00:51:02,680 Speaker 5: parking lots, real estate. It wasn't nobody really like thinking 1073 00:51:02,680 --> 00:51:05,759 Speaker 5: about being an entrepreneur. We weren't taught that, you know 1074 00:51:05,800 --> 00:51:07,839 Speaker 5: what I mean. We weren't taught that. The NBA wasn't 1075 00:51:07,840 --> 00:51:10,719 Speaker 5: coming by saying like, yeah, be an entrepreneur, you know 1076 00:51:10,760 --> 00:51:12,880 Speaker 5: what I mean. They were like, yeah, save your money 1077 00:51:13,360 --> 00:51:15,239 Speaker 5: because people out here trying to take your money, you 1078 00:51:15,320 --> 00:51:18,280 Speaker 5: know what. It was like that that type of financial 1079 00:51:18,320 --> 00:51:19,920 Speaker 5: literacy conversation. 1080 00:51:21,000 --> 00:51:23,640 Speaker 1: As far and obviously now they do a good job 1081 00:51:23,640 --> 00:51:25,680 Speaker 1: and making sure I were having programs available for the 1082 00:51:25,680 --> 00:51:27,400 Speaker 1: players who went through the process and vets and that 1083 00:51:27,520 --> 00:51:29,200 Speaker 1: nature to all right, once you leave here, we got 1084 00:51:29,200 --> 00:51:31,640 Speaker 1: these opportunities for you'all to stay around making money rights 1085 00:51:31,680 --> 00:51:33,319 Speaker 1: things like that before we get out of here, man 1086 00:51:33,320 --> 00:51:34,400 Speaker 1: telling people what you got going on? 1087 00:51:34,480 --> 00:51:35,880 Speaker 2: Man, what's new with you? You know what I'm saying. You know, 1088 00:51:35,880 --> 00:51:37,279 Speaker 2: you're be in the studio and. 1089 00:51:37,200 --> 00:51:40,200 Speaker 5: I got we are about to launch Slick TV. So 1090 00:51:40,239 --> 00:51:45,759 Speaker 5: I've just been cooking up my little podcast talk show. 1091 00:51:46,040 --> 00:51:48,919 Speaker 3: Okay, shout ou out to the C and CJ. Matt 1092 00:51:48,960 --> 00:51:49,520 Speaker 3: got a show. 1093 00:51:49,560 --> 00:51:53,400 Speaker 5: So we're gonna be basically launching like our whole large 1094 00:51:53,440 --> 00:51:56,960 Speaker 5: stream twenty four to seven channel. And the whole point 1095 00:51:57,200 --> 00:52:00,279 Speaker 5: is for us as the culture have. 1096 00:52:00,600 --> 00:52:03,160 Speaker 3: To be on TV. And so that's what you know 1097 00:52:03,239 --> 00:52:04,080 Speaker 3: we've been working on. 1098 00:52:04,440 --> 00:52:08,640 Speaker 5: And then I got a character that I created called 1099 00:52:08,640 --> 00:52:14,840 Speaker 5: Bart Oatmeal and he rapped make music produced in DJ. 1100 00:52:15,360 --> 00:52:19,919 Speaker 5: So we got two projects that are coming out over 1101 00:52:19,920 --> 00:52:25,200 Speaker 5: the next three four weeks. And then my birthday April thirteenth, 1102 00:52:25,800 --> 00:52:28,640 Speaker 5: my first live show with a bunch of dudes. 1103 00:52:28,680 --> 00:52:30,680 Speaker 3: So shout out to Big Rich. I know he in here. 1104 00:52:30,920 --> 00:52:31,759 Speaker 3: Shot Big Rich. 1105 00:52:31,880 --> 00:52:35,760 Speaker 5: It's Rich on the background, Big Rich, Bay Area legend. 1106 00:52:36,160 --> 00:52:38,239 Speaker 3: We got mister fab I checked. 1107 00:52:38,280 --> 00:52:38,400 Speaker 1: You know. 1108 00:52:38,520 --> 00:52:40,880 Speaker 3: My goal is like to make. 1109 00:52:40,760 --> 00:52:45,120 Speaker 5: Music with all the dudes I admire. Respect was in 1110 00:52:45,200 --> 00:52:50,040 Speaker 5: my age range, you know what I mean, And really 1111 00:52:50,120 --> 00:52:52,359 Speaker 5: like I was just trying to get some credibility because 1112 00:52:52,400 --> 00:52:55,360 Speaker 5: my brother was like, bro, nobody's gonna take you serious 1113 00:52:56,320 --> 00:52:58,480 Speaker 5: as a rapper, Like he was always say you're a hooper, 1114 00:52:58,520 --> 00:53:00,440 Speaker 5: You're a hooper first, and I was fuck that. 1115 00:53:00,920 --> 00:53:02,960 Speaker 3: I'm gonna make myself a rapper, you know what I mean. 1116 00:53:02,960 --> 00:53:06,799 Speaker 5: I'm gonna validate myself as a rapper and build and 1117 00:53:06,880 --> 00:53:10,640 Speaker 5: build this character so the rap dudes can fuck with 1118 00:53:10,680 --> 00:53:13,120 Speaker 5: the character and then Baron Davis could be their friend, 1119 00:53:13,160 --> 00:53:15,840 Speaker 5: you know what I mean. And so now it's turning, 1120 00:53:16,080 --> 00:53:19,319 Speaker 5: you know, Barto Mill get a ball, y'all be able 1121 00:53:19,320 --> 00:53:21,000 Speaker 5: to down download the music. 1122 00:53:21,600 --> 00:53:24,040 Speaker 3: It's cool, it's a vibe, you know what I mean. 1123 00:53:24,120 --> 00:53:26,640 Speaker 5: So that's really what I've been on like that, and 1124 00:53:26,800 --> 00:53:30,160 Speaker 5: just working on writing scripts and things like that. I'm 1125 00:53:30,160 --> 00:53:35,040 Speaker 5: coming out with not WTF my little series I have, 1126 00:53:35,200 --> 00:53:38,239 Speaker 5: but a different version of it. So I've been working 1127 00:53:38,239 --> 00:53:40,319 Speaker 5: I just finished that, so I'm working on that too. 1128 00:53:42,080 --> 00:53:44,439 Speaker 3: I'm just trying to entertain people, make them laugh and shit. 1129 00:53:44,800 --> 00:53:48,839 Speaker 4: What all right, what's what rapper that you would want 1130 00:53:48,880 --> 00:53:52,000 Speaker 4: to work with though that you probably ain't got in 1131 00:53:52,040 --> 00:53:55,560 Speaker 4: contact with? Shit, Like, what's up because you probably in 1132 00:53:55,640 --> 00:53:58,719 Speaker 4: contact with all the LA area people. But is it 1133 00:53:58,840 --> 00:54:00,680 Speaker 4: somebody that you'd be like, Damn, I love to have 1134 00:54:00,800 --> 00:54:01,839 Speaker 4: this person on the track. 1135 00:54:03,320 --> 00:54:09,160 Speaker 5: Fucking with bart U, I mean obviously Dre okay, Yeah, Drake, 1136 00:54:09,600 --> 00:54:12,280 Speaker 5: ken Jack, come on that LA make it happen. 1137 00:54:14,360 --> 00:54:17,520 Speaker 3: Fifty c fuck with fifty. 1138 00:54:17,840 --> 00:54:20,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, you're gonna have your power to be careful. 1139 00:54:20,960 --> 00:54:25,239 Speaker 3: That's fine. Let me get on. Let me get on 1140 00:54:25,719 --> 00:54:29,120 Speaker 3: to think out who else? 1141 00:54:29,520 --> 00:54:34,719 Speaker 1: Juvenile Juvie and little Way Wayne? But you you and 1142 00:54:34,760 --> 00:54:35,479 Speaker 1: Wayne Boy? 1143 00:54:35,760 --> 00:54:38,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, I need I need a joint with Wayne? Who going? 1144 00:54:38,280 --> 00:54:38,560 Speaker 1: Who? 1145 00:54:38,600 --> 00:54:38,719 Speaker 2: Who? 1146 00:54:38,840 --> 00:54:40,320 Speaker 3: Finishing the track? You were? Wayne? 1147 00:54:40,680 --> 00:54:40,879 Speaker 5: Who? 1148 00:54:41,080 --> 00:54:41,319 Speaker 3: Wayne? 1149 00:54:41,360 --> 00:54:44,960 Speaker 5: Gotta finisht got my man okay yet finished? 1150 00:54:44,960 --> 00:54:47,000 Speaker 2: Would you do a track with any other hooper like Dame? 1151 00:54:47,200 --> 00:54:47,920 Speaker 3: Yeah? Hell yeah. 1152 00:54:47,960 --> 00:54:51,959 Speaker 5: I've been trying to get Dame on the record. Dame really, 1153 00:54:52,000 --> 00:54:54,200 Speaker 5: I think Dan when I talked to Dame, I think 1154 00:54:54,239 --> 00:54:57,560 Speaker 5: he thinks is Baron Davis trying to get a record 1155 00:54:57,560 --> 00:55:02,000 Speaker 5: from him? But He's like, no, bart open Trump people 1156 00:55:02,040 --> 00:55:05,880 Speaker 5: be confused with it too. But with Dame music, we 1157 00:55:06,000 --> 00:55:08,719 Speaker 5: always talk about this, you know at our spot is 1158 00:55:08,760 --> 00:55:12,920 Speaker 5: like who are the best hoop rappers hoop musicians? And 1159 00:55:13,000 --> 00:55:15,879 Speaker 5: so I do want to put together a project where 1160 00:55:15,880 --> 00:55:18,680 Speaker 5: we can get everybody on the record. 1161 00:55:18,840 --> 00:55:19,359 Speaker 3: You know what I mean. 1162 00:55:19,440 --> 00:55:27,040 Speaker 1: On the album you shunk Dame Bridges Bridges. 1163 00:55:31,880 --> 00:55:36,560 Speaker 4: Hard, Yeah, I got that tough. You gotta put on 1164 00:55:36,960 --> 00:55:39,480 Speaker 4: he tough. You gotta put these on there. 1165 00:55:40,880 --> 00:55:43,600 Speaker 2: I mean, you know you can let Vic sing the 1166 00:55:43,640 --> 00:55:45,440 Speaker 2: Hook the Deep. 1167 00:55:47,080 --> 00:55:49,840 Speaker 3: Too. It's somebody else who sing to in the league? 1168 00:55:49,960 --> 00:55:52,520 Speaker 3: Oh you know who else? Cold and Rap? Triple j 1169 00:55:53,000 --> 00:55:55,239 Speaker 3: Oh for he got a sick. He had a sick 1170 00:55:55,280 --> 00:56:02,520 Speaker 3: Little Triple. I think it's Triple j Jay Jared Jackson. 1171 00:56:02,800 --> 00:56:03,520 Speaker 3: Oh really. 1172 00:56:04,960 --> 00:56:07,239 Speaker 2: Video look to hear about that. 1173 00:56:08,480 --> 00:56:10,640 Speaker 3: It's hard. It's hard. You're gonna like it's a body. 1174 00:56:11,480 --> 00:56:13,560 Speaker 5: Like. The cool thing about these young dudes, man, is 1175 00:56:13,600 --> 00:56:17,040 Speaker 5: like they have creative freedom and they can be themselves 1176 00:56:17,400 --> 00:56:19,160 Speaker 5: and they don't give a fuck, you know what I mean. 1177 00:56:19,239 --> 00:56:21,439 Speaker 3: It's like they hoop all day. They love a hoop. 1178 00:56:21,480 --> 00:56:24,200 Speaker 5: And now they know, like, if my hobby is twitch 1179 00:56:24,239 --> 00:56:26,120 Speaker 5: and playing video games, you can do that. If I 1180 00:56:26,160 --> 00:56:27,839 Speaker 5: want to make music, you can do that. You got 1181 00:56:28,280 --> 00:56:31,200 Speaker 5: plenty of time in the day. And I think a 1182 00:56:31,200 --> 00:56:33,799 Speaker 5: lot of times, like we're in our era, people didn't 1183 00:56:33,840 --> 00:56:37,640 Speaker 5: know that we had hobbies. They just thought practice show 1184 00:56:37,719 --> 00:56:40,960 Speaker 5: up on TV and never see whatever the media wanted 1185 00:56:41,000 --> 00:56:42,560 Speaker 5: to show was who your brand was. 1186 00:56:42,800 --> 00:56:43,320 Speaker 3: Yeah. 1187 00:56:43,520 --> 00:56:47,040 Speaker 5: Now since social media you can say hey, hoop, but 1188 00:56:47,080 --> 00:56:49,440 Speaker 5: I'm also in the fact, like you can communicate, you 1189 00:56:49,480 --> 00:56:51,680 Speaker 5: know what I mean. So these dudes is like they're 1190 00:56:51,760 --> 00:56:54,480 Speaker 5: just going up being who they want to be, you know. 1191 00:56:54,560 --> 00:56:57,080 Speaker 5: And I just feel like all of it is like 1192 00:56:57,120 --> 00:56:59,400 Speaker 5: a shade of like all the things that I was 1193 00:56:59,440 --> 00:57:02,279 Speaker 5: fighting for or to like be for myself, you know 1194 00:57:02,320 --> 00:57:05,040 Speaker 5: what I mean. So I can just all I want 1195 00:57:05,080 --> 00:57:06,960 Speaker 5: to do is just give roses and you know what 1196 00:57:07,000 --> 00:57:09,400 Speaker 5: I mean, be a fan and support you know, this 1197 00:57:09,520 --> 00:57:10,240 Speaker 5: next generation. 1198 00:57:10,480 --> 00:57:13,239 Speaker 4: You think Instagram would have messed up the league back 1199 00:57:13,280 --> 00:57:14,040 Speaker 4: when you came in. 1200 00:57:14,800 --> 00:57:15,640 Speaker 3: I had a lot of it. 1201 00:57:17,760 --> 00:57:22,880 Speaker 5: That we believe, no way would we might have even 1202 00:57:22,920 --> 00:57:27,680 Speaker 5: made it. The whole team would have been suspended so 1203 00:57:27,720 --> 00:57:31,520 Speaker 5: far what Twitter, we would have had beef in cities. 1204 00:57:31,200 --> 00:57:34,720 Speaker 3: People been waiting, people would wait. Y'all was real different. 1205 00:57:36,480 --> 00:57:38,600 Speaker 3: It was. I can't say it. 1206 00:57:39,080 --> 00:57:41,680 Speaker 5: But you gotta have one of my teammates because I 1207 00:57:41,760 --> 00:57:43,680 Speaker 5: used to grab a mic and say some wild Ship 1208 00:57:44,560 --> 00:57:49,640 Speaker 5: come on, man, Yeah, you gotta get Madden stack. 1209 00:57:49,840 --> 00:57:50,000 Speaker 3: You know. 1210 00:57:50,040 --> 00:57:52,840 Speaker 5: We went out New Year's Eve, We play Houston. We 1211 00:57:52,960 --> 00:57:56,440 Speaker 5: beat Houston, and you know, we got homies on the Rockets, 1212 00:57:57,480 --> 00:57:59,240 Speaker 5: so they came and funk with us in the club. 1213 00:57:59,360 --> 00:58:02,800 Speaker 5: When they said, I'll go grab a mic and say 1214 00:58:02,840 --> 00:58:05,520 Speaker 5: funck everybody. 1215 00:58:06,280 --> 00:58:07,160 Speaker 3: The Houston Rockets. 1216 00:58:07,400 --> 00:58:14,600 Speaker 5: It's something my homeboy right there, Buzzie Luthor head, you know, 1217 00:58:14,800 --> 00:58:18,280 Speaker 5: just like we were so cool that other you know, 1218 00:58:18,400 --> 00:58:20,880 Speaker 5: like even though we had homies on other teams. Yeah, 1219 00:58:21,240 --> 00:58:23,560 Speaker 5: like I ain't really coming to Atlanta and me and 1220 00:58:23,640 --> 00:58:25,000 Speaker 5: you going out unless it's like. 1221 00:58:25,840 --> 00:58:26,800 Speaker 3: We went to school together. 1222 00:58:26,840 --> 00:58:28,680 Speaker 5: We got here, man, we was having all kind of 1223 00:58:28,760 --> 00:58:31,400 Speaker 5: dudes on other teams coming out with us. Like, man, 1224 00:58:31,400 --> 00:58:34,120 Speaker 5: we're fucking with y'all where you're going tonight? Yeah, like 1225 00:58:34,160 --> 00:58:35,439 Speaker 5: what's going up that hard? 1226 00:58:36,720 --> 00:58:36,880 Speaker 3: Man? 1227 00:58:36,920 --> 00:58:38,320 Speaker 1: We could do this all day when I get up 1228 00:58:38,280 --> 00:58:39,800 Speaker 1: out of here, Max, you know, us and Baron Davis 1229 00:58:39,800 --> 00:58:40,720 Speaker 1: one time, one time. 1230 00:58:40,920 --> 00:58:41,600 Speaker 3: Appreciate it. 1231 00:58:41,920 --> 00:58:44,479 Speaker 2: Appreciate you rocking with us. Sorry, I appreciate you. 1232 00:58:44,400 --> 00:58:46,400 Speaker 1: Man, know what it is Club five twenty here here. 1233 00:58:46,440 --> 00:58:48,840 Speaker 1: Really appreciate y'all rocking with us to the next time 1234 00:58:49,360 --> 00:58:49,840 Speaker 1: we out