WEBVTT - When music festivals go wrong 0:00:00.400 --> 0:00:03.560 Guys Don Lemon started following me. 0:00:03.920 --> 0:00:04.760 Huge news. 0:00:05.040 --> 0:00:23.439 Hey, now finally gampsy media charge flesh Rory. I know 0:00:23.520 --> 0:00:26.560 you experienced a real right of pastes. Recently you went 0:00:26.600 --> 0:00:28.840 to Burning Man. That's correct. How was Burning Man? 0:00:28.960 --> 0:00:33.879 It was incredible. I give it four stars. I'd give 0:00:33.920 --> 0:00:36.960 it more stars if we were allowed to five six. However, 0:00:37.040 --> 0:00:40.720 many are available. Loved it more stars than seal teams. 0:00:40.720 --> 0:00:42.600 I would give it more stars than seal teams that 0:00:42.640 --> 0:00:43.200 are out there. 0:00:43.640 --> 0:00:46.000 Yeah, you loved it, so I felt like in honor 0:00:46.040 --> 0:00:48.920 of your experience, as you were changed. 0:00:48.560 --> 0:00:51.519 By it, I think, yeah, fully so. 0:00:51.840 --> 0:00:54.720 We think of festivals as these wonderful carnivals for letting 0:00:54.720 --> 0:00:57.320 go of our worldly stresses, for gathering with our fellow 0:00:57.400 --> 0:01:00.320 humans and celebrating the gifts of life. But they can 0:01:00.360 --> 0:01:02.840 also be chaotic back in holes where people are at 0:01:02.840 --> 0:01:07.280 their worst. They act poorly, and they make terrible choices. Yeah, 0:01:07.360 --> 0:01:10.800 which makes for some very good stories. And you're in 0:01:10.880 --> 0:01:14.880 luck today because I think I found the anti Burning Man. Oh, 0:01:15.160 --> 0:01:17.920 it's not a free form jazz fest held in the tundra. 0:01:18.440 --> 0:01:21.240 It's an EDM festival in small town Florida. 0:01:21.360 --> 0:01:22.440 Okay, here we go. 0:01:23.640 --> 0:01:26.960 Do I have your attention. You've got it. I'm engaged. 0:01:27.840 --> 0:01:31.560 This story has it all poor decision making, wacky crimes, 0:01:31.680 --> 0:01:34.480 cops with thick Southern accents, and a little bit of 0:01:34.560 --> 0:01:52.200 government corruption. All that and more after the break, Hello 0:01:52.280 --> 0:01:54.720 and welcome back to Crime List, the podcast that celebrates 0:01:54.760 --> 0:01:58.120 the amazing creativity of the world's dumbest criminals when it's 0:01:58.160 --> 0:02:01.680 not dancing in Espiedo and then Nevada Desert. I'm Josh Deem. 0:02:02.120 --> 0:02:05.000 I'm Roy Scobel, Speedo Dancer Extraordinaire. 0:02:06.640 --> 0:02:08.480 How many years has Burning Man been a thing? Do 0:02:08.480 --> 0:02:08.720 you know? 0:02:09.320 --> 0:02:12.320 I think it's over thirty years, could be thirty, forty, 0:02:12.360 --> 0:02:12.720 I don't know. 0:02:13.680 --> 0:02:17.440 Wild and now it's like a city with however many 0:02:17.440 --> 0:02:18.360 eighty thousand people. 0:02:18.680 --> 0:02:23.760 I think this past year was seventy thousand. Someone said, damn, 0:02:23.960 --> 0:02:27.240 it's so many people. It's massive, but it's incredible. 0:02:27.919 --> 0:02:29.679 I'm going to tell you today about a festival that's 0:02:29.720 --> 0:02:33.280 had a much shorter run despite its organizers' best interests. 0:02:34.560 --> 0:02:37.040 After the events we'll talk about today, the festival went 0:02:37.080 --> 0:02:40.560 on an indefinite hiatus thanks to the tenacity of one 0:02:40.760 --> 0:02:45.560 small Florida municipality. The event in question was called Soul 0:02:45.680 --> 0:02:48.240 fest as in like Spanish for sun. It was a 0:02:48.280 --> 0:02:52.320 four day EDM festival. Yeah, so not that long ago. 0:02:52.360 --> 0:02:55.760 This isn't twenty twenty four. The festival's organizers were planning 0:02:55.800 --> 0:02:59.799 their biggest party yet, over fifty artists slated to perform 0:02:59.840 --> 0:03:02.920 on three stages. It's all bands that I've literally never 0:03:03.000 --> 0:03:07.519 heard of before. Let me read you a few res closey, LS, 0:03:08.480 --> 0:03:11.240 LSD Dream or LS Dream. I think it's probably LS Dream, 0:03:11.520 --> 0:03:16.040 Bob Moses, Lettuce, Dabbin of the Trees. Any of these 0:03:16.120 --> 0:03:16.760 ring a bell for you? 0:03:16.919 --> 0:03:20.440 Or I do not know any of these artists. 0:03:21.760 --> 0:03:24.600 Vaguely recall you raving about Lettus's third album, But maybe 0:03:24.600 --> 0:03:26.280 I just well just talked about Lettus. 0:03:26.320 --> 0:03:28.720 That's because it changed the game and it deserves that 0:03:28.800 --> 0:03:29.480 kind of respect. 0:03:30.040 --> 0:03:33.160 Well, it wasn't only about the music. If this lineup 0:03:33.200 --> 0:03:36.280 wasn't necessarily your own personal Woodstock ninety nine, there was 0:03:36.320 --> 0:03:40.280 other stuff on display too, like art installations, murals cool. 0:03:40.480 --> 0:03:44.120 You could check out spiritual healing workshops like meditation, yoga, 0:03:44.240 --> 0:03:46.840 breath work. Sounds like a great place to do drugs 0:03:46.840 --> 0:03:49.160 if I'm being honest, So maybe kind of like Burning 0:03:49.200 --> 0:03:53.640 Man in that aspect. Soul Fest also advertised endless activities 0:03:53.680 --> 0:03:59.520 like frickfrack Blackjack, Sonic Portal, and body marbling also potentially 0:03:59.600 --> 0:04:02.640 things that could be a Burning Man in my mind. Yeah, 0:04:02.720 --> 0:04:04.240 I don't know what any of these things are. Do you? 0:04:04.400 --> 0:04:07.280 I don't know what those are. It honestly feels like 0:04:07.280 --> 0:04:08.600 you just made that up on the fly. 0:04:09.040 --> 0:04:10.760 I may have, But if so, I made up the 0:04:10.760 --> 0:04:14.000 answer because I'm about to tell you frick frack blackjack 0:04:14.200 --> 0:04:17.360 is no cash betting, bartering only. Oh they stole that 0:04:17.400 --> 0:04:20.080 from burning They're biting some of Burning Man's style here 0:04:20.080 --> 0:04:22.800 with the bartering. The Sonic Portal seems to be some 0:04:22.839 --> 0:04:26.640 sort of an immersive experience a psychedelic spaceship ride, and 0:04:26.920 --> 0:04:30.680 body marbling is a temporary artistic technique to create intricate 0:04:30.880 --> 0:04:33.880 swirled patterns on the skin by dipping the body in 0:04:33.920 --> 0:04:35.479 a water based paint bath. 0:04:35.560 --> 0:04:37.279 Oh yeah, okay, I kind of know what that is, 0:04:37.360 --> 0:04:39.599 even though I still have never understood how it works. 0:04:39.640 --> 0:04:43.680 But the portal thing sounds pretty cool. Sounds kind of cool, right, Yeah, So. 0:04:43.680 --> 0:04:49.200 Like, so far, so good, Okay, Florida. I feel like 0:04:49.240 --> 0:04:52.919 these Floridians are mostly trying to like bite off Burning Man. Style, 0:04:52.960 --> 0:04:53.640 but on a budget. 0:04:53.680 --> 0:04:56.760 It does sound like hearts are in the right place. 0:04:56.920 --> 0:04:58.800 I have a feeling we're gonna take a turn, but 0:04:59.040 --> 0:05:01.359 it does seem like arts are in the right place. 0:05:02.560 --> 0:05:06.200 Yeah, So naturally, organizers settled on Ponce de le Own, Florida, 0:05:06.360 --> 0:05:08.400 a tiny town in the Panhandle with a population of 0:05:08.400 --> 0:05:10.560 two thousand and zero traffic lights, but a whole lot 0:05:10.560 --> 0:05:10.839 of heart. 0:05:11.000 --> 0:05:13.080 Yeah, can't believe it's in Punce daily on and they 0:05:13.080 --> 0:05:16.880 went with soul Fest as opposed to like Eternal Life 0:05:16.920 --> 0:05:17.960 Fest or something. 0:05:18.160 --> 0:05:20.599 Oh my god, you're right, yeah, Festival of Eternal Lights. 0:05:20.680 --> 0:05:23.000 Yeah exactly. Yeah, yeah, all right, so we're gonna send 0:05:23.000 --> 0:05:25.760 some notes. We'll send them a critique afterwards with our notes. 0:05:25.760 --> 0:05:27.920 That's one note number one. Yeah, you missed a real 0:05:27.920 --> 0:05:30.680 opportunity with the name. More specifically, it's set up in 0:05:30.760 --> 0:05:33.679 Vortec Springs, a local water park in a natural spring 0:05:33.720 --> 0:05:37.240 campground for four days. Organizers predicted the festival would bring 0:05:37.320 --> 0:05:39.520 in ten thousand people. I did look up the attendants 0:05:39.520 --> 0:05:41.200 of Burning Man this year. It was between seventy and 0:05:41.279 --> 0:05:43.120 eighty thousand. Okay, yeah, so you are right. Yeah, you're 0:05:43.120 --> 0:05:45.920 pretty much spot on as a reference point. Lollapalooza drew 0:05:45.920 --> 0:05:48.880 one hundred and fifteen thousand, oh my god, per day, 0:05:49.160 --> 0:05:51.680 So this is small potatoes, ten thousand. Yeah. You might 0:05:51.760 --> 0:05:55.240 think that this relatively small event would bring welcome economic 0:05:55.279 --> 0:05:58.120 opportunities for the small town, but nope, the locals were not. 0:05:58.520 --> 0:06:01.080 You'll be shocked to hear thrilled about all the hippieippy 0:06:01.080 --> 0:06:02.520 crowds yeating into their count. 0:06:02.400 --> 0:06:04.920 I mean, ten thousand people is still kind of a 0:06:04.960 --> 0:06:08.919 small arena. So if you can picture ner, you know, 0:06:09.600 --> 0:06:11.800 an arena, that's still quite a bit of people. But 0:06:11.880 --> 0:06:13.480 ten yes, comparatively in. 0:06:13.440 --> 0:06:15.920 A town of two thousand and no traffic lights, five 0:06:16.040 --> 0:06:19.440 times the size of yeah. Yeah, yeah. So about a 0:06:19.480 --> 0:06:22.159 month before the festival, the Holmes County Board of Commissioners 0:06:22.200 --> 0:06:25.240 hosted a town meeting to address the concerns about Soulfest. 0:06:25.600 --> 0:06:28.920 Organizers of the event, concerned citizens and town officials piled 0:06:28.960 --> 0:06:31.599 into a conference room. Officials complained that they didn't know 0:06:31.680 --> 0:06:34.479 Soulfest was coming until a month before it started, and 0:06:34.520 --> 0:06:37.320 they didn't have any town ordinances in place to regulate 0:06:37.360 --> 0:06:40.440 events like this, nor did Soulfest need to acquire any 0:06:40.440 --> 0:06:43.120 permits to host it on private property. In other words, 0:06:43.240 --> 0:06:46.279 Florida realized that it's general dislike of regulations isn't always 0:06:46.279 --> 0:06:47.040 the best policy. 0:06:47.400 --> 0:06:48.360 Yeah, that's right. 0:06:48.400 --> 0:06:50.840 So you hate regulation until you realize you need them. 0:06:50.800 --> 0:06:53.120 Until it affects you. And that's a very standard sort 0:06:53.120 --> 0:06:57.680 of red state mentality. Until it affects me. I oppose 0:06:57.839 --> 0:07:01.360 other people getting to do a thing, and. 0:07:01.320 --> 0:07:04.360 That has been our political minute, and that's political minute 0:07:04.400 --> 0:07:10.640 with Rory Skovol. One particularly outspoken attendee was the town sheriff, 0:07:10.640 --> 0:07:12.920 a man named John Tate. He was concerned about the 0:07:12.920 --> 0:07:16.040 potential for drugs at the festival, saying, I've made that 0:07:16.120 --> 0:07:17.840 clear to them, I'm not going to turn a blind 0:07:17.840 --> 0:07:20.040 out of drugs. If people are in the venue using drugs, 0:07:20.040 --> 0:07:23.240 they're going to jail, plain and simple. Yep. So, one 0:07:23.360 --> 0:07:26.080 resident who lives within a mile of Vortec Spring had 0:07:26.120 --> 0:07:28.760 experience with these type of events and he warned everyone 0:07:29.040 --> 0:07:32.320 this way, the minute you get in the hallucinogenic drugs 0:07:32.360 --> 0:07:35.320 come out. You have people running around seeing pink elephants 0:07:35.320 --> 0:07:36.760 and purple dinosaurs all night. 0:07:37.040 --> 0:07:38.320 That sounds very specific. 0:07:39.520 --> 0:07:42.200 Yeah, maybe that would protest too much. 0:07:42.640 --> 0:07:44.800 But also if you see a purple dinosaur, you can 0:07:44.880 --> 0:07:48.440 probably conclude internally that's an hallucination. 0:07:48.920 --> 0:07:50.920 Yeah, I mean, and honestly, that doesn't that sounds like 0:07:51.000 --> 0:07:52.720 kind of fun experience. It does seem I don't feel 0:07:52.720 --> 0:07:54.080 like the way I mean you're going to see a dinosaur. 0:07:54.120 --> 0:07:56.760 It's like, yeah, I want the barney, give me the barney, 0:07:56.920 --> 0:07:59.480 you know, I mean, yeah, not exactly the nightmare that 0:07:59.800 --> 0:08:01.720 the if you're trying to scare people, I'm not sure. 0:08:01.760 --> 0:08:03.800 It also sounds like, yes, yeah, maybe a very specific 0:08:03.840 --> 0:08:05.560 example that this one gentleman. Yeah. 0:08:05.560 --> 0:08:07.400 A lot of people that tell meeting were like, well, shit, 0:08:07.440 --> 0:08:08.640 maybe we should go to this thing. 0:08:12.080 --> 0:08:14.720 The organizers, of course, assured everyone their event did not 0:08:14.800 --> 0:08:17.560 promote drug use. It was about the music, the hula hoops, 0:08:17.640 --> 0:08:20.720 peace and love. Man, they promised security would be present 0:08:21.000 --> 0:08:24.640 in addition to TSA style checkpoints. So, to summarize, we've 0:08:24.680 --> 0:08:27.480 got a small, rural conservative town in Florida with no 0:08:27.560 --> 0:08:31.320 traffic lights allowed, EDM music festival with ten thousand body 0:08:31.320 --> 0:08:34.400 painting enthusiasts and a police force with a bone to pick. 0:08:34.720 --> 0:08:39.040 What could go wrong? So if you're the festival organizer, 0:08:39.160 --> 0:08:42.160 what's your next move? You get to cancel the whole thing? 0:08:42.280 --> 0:08:43.520 Send a fruit basket to the show. 0:08:43.720 --> 0:08:46.000 You can't. You got to forge ahead. I've got to 0:08:46.000 --> 0:08:48.320 imagine there's pretty good money in this ten thousand people. 0:08:48.720 --> 0:08:51.080 Tickets are like, you know, for four days. Tickets are 0:08:51.080 --> 0:08:53.959 probably like three hundred bucks maybe for like a four 0:08:54.040 --> 0:08:54.600 day pass. 0:08:54.760 --> 0:08:57.080 And we've all seen the Firefest documentary. We know what 0:08:57.080 --> 0:08:58.880 happens when you take people's money and don't get them 0:08:58.920 --> 0:08:59.320 what they want. 0:08:59.440 --> 0:09:02.040 Yeah, you get to do it again a few years later, 0:09:02.360 --> 0:09:04.120 so there's no downside. 0:09:04.240 --> 0:09:04.520 Really. 0:09:04.559 --> 0:09:06.559 You go to jail for us, you get slapped it 0:09:06.640 --> 0:09:07.720 on the wrist, and then you come out and you 0:09:07.760 --> 0:09:09.000 do the festival all over again. 0:09:09.040 --> 0:09:13.040 Yeah. God, people are so dumb. I guess that's could 0:09:13.040 --> 0:09:15.040 be the tagline for our show. God people are so dumb. 0:09:15.280 --> 0:09:16.240 People are so dumb. 0:09:16.400 --> 0:09:18.920 So the organizers, of course, went full speed ahead. Thousands 0:09:18.920 --> 0:09:20.839 of people from all over the world arrived at Vortex 0:09:20.880 --> 0:09:23.920 Springs ready to dance, party and get their bodies marble. Yeah, 0:09:23.960 --> 0:09:25.640 and what do you know, the weekend goes off without 0:09:25.640 --> 0:09:27.360 a hitch. Oh just kidding. 0:09:28.480 --> 0:09:31.680 It's like, wow, Josh, you really went off script this time, 0:09:31.800 --> 0:09:32.400 really went with. 0:09:32.320 --> 0:09:35.120 The new end of our episode Ladies and Jail, and 0:09:35.240 --> 0:09:38.240 nothing was illegal and the town grew into a city. 0:09:38.520 --> 0:09:41.720 Was that footloose? Is that the plot of fat This. 0:09:41.640 --> 0:09:44.120 Has very modern day footloose vibes for sure. 0:09:45.440 --> 0:09:48.440 The sheriff takes LSD and has the time of his life. 0:09:48.520 --> 0:09:51.040 Kevin Bacon DJ'd all night. 0:09:52.720 --> 0:09:54.360 Yeah, so no, there are a lot of hitches, so 0:09:54.600 --> 0:09:57.360 some people at a great time. I read several positive 0:09:57.400 --> 0:10:00.040 reviews on Reddit, like this one. The festival itself, This 0:10:00.120 --> 0:10:02.680 was fucking amazing, best sound quality I've ever heard. The 0:10:02.800 --> 0:10:06.240 vibes and the people were immaculate. And then this very 0:10:06.360 --> 0:10:08.320 chill lady who talked to the local news. I believe 0:10:08.440 --> 0:10:09.559 Lane has this clip for us. 0:10:09.800 --> 0:10:11.840 I love a clip, Love a good clip. 0:10:12.200 --> 0:10:14.720 It's just the part of the way the world works 0:10:14.760 --> 0:10:17.000 and the universe works. You know, you can't have good 0:10:17.080 --> 0:10:20.000 without the bad. But for the most part, the festival 0:10:20.120 --> 0:10:23.719 was nothing but like higher vibrational people, people loving each 0:10:23.720 --> 0:10:25.000 other and supporting each other. 0:10:25.200 --> 0:10:27.720 And you know what, she's right in just talking about 0:10:27.720 --> 0:10:33.080 the very basics of universal balance. She's correct, that was like, 0:10:33.600 --> 0:10:35.800 that was the cleanest take possible where she's like, and 0:10:35.840 --> 0:10:38.400 I will not name drop anything good or bad. 0:10:40.600 --> 0:10:44.480 Well, anyway, despite the higher vibrations experienced by this lady. 0:10:44.800 --> 0:10:47.120 There were a ton of logistical issues. The parking was 0:10:47.160 --> 0:10:49.840 a mess, the traffic overwhelmed the town. Of course, attendees 0:10:49.840 --> 0:10:52.400 were stranded in their cars for hours. Public schools had 0:10:52.440 --> 0:10:54.720 to cancel classes because the roads were so packed they 0:10:54.720 --> 0:10:57.200 couldn't get the buses to school. No one considered the 0:10:57.200 --> 0:10:58.040 impact on children. 0:10:58.120 --> 0:11:02.640 Rory, Yeah, and they rarely. That's called the America. That's 0:11:02.640 --> 0:11:05.120 not just Florida, that's literally the entire country. 0:11:05.200 --> 0:11:06.559 And that was political minute, part two. 0:11:06.600 --> 0:11:08.800 And that's my second hot tank. 0:11:12.400 --> 0:11:15.320 Within the grounds itself, attendees reported a lot of confusion 0:11:15.360 --> 0:11:19.280 about festival layout, miscommunication, low quantities of luxury items like 0:11:19.360 --> 0:11:20.360 water and toilet paper. 0:11:21.000 --> 0:11:22.360 Yes, gotta consider that. 0:11:22.880 --> 0:11:25.280 Also, there was a car fire that burned and destroyed 0:11:25.320 --> 0:11:28.120 four other cars before the firefighter showed up. But the 0:11:28.160 --> 0:11:31.480 biggest complaint by far was five to zero, or as 0:11:31.520 --> 0:11:34.040 you like to say, the fuzz fuzz. By the way, 0:11:34.160 --> 0:11:36.480 I was thinking about that, I have never wandered until 0:11:36.480 --> 0:11:38.200 today until I wrote that down. And I was like, 0:11:38.240 --> 0:11:40.000 why did they start calling cops the fuzz? 0:11:40.080 --> 0:11:41.120 Why is it called the fuzz? 0:11:41.440 --> 0:11:43.320 And I tried, I wanted to have an answer for you, 0:11:43.360 --> 0:11:45.760 but the internet failed me. Here. Nobody seems to know, 0:11:45.920 --> 0:11:48.800 and the most common theories are pretty dumb. But I'm 0:11:48.800 --> 0:11:49.640 going to tell you anyway. 0:11:49.720 --> 0:11:50.040 Okay. 0:11:50.200 --> 0:11:52.560 So one is that it was a mispronunciation or a 0:11:52.600 --> 0:11:56.960 mishearing of the slang FEDS or maybe shorthand force, but 0:11:57.000 --> 0:11:58.840 that seems unlikely to me. How do you get from 0:11:58.880 --> 0:12:02.240 feds or forced to fuzzuzz fuzz? I don't know. I 0:12:02.240 --> 0:12:04.360 guess it would require one person to mishear it and 0:12:04.360 --> 0:12:06.560 then say it to another person who then adopted it. 0:12:06.960 --> 0:12:09.080 I don't think that's how it works. Another is that 0:12:09.120 --> 0:12:11.760 maybe it comes from fuss, as in what the cops 0:12:11.800 --> 0:12:13.560 make or are trying to stop. But I don't think 0:12:13.600 --> 0:12:14.240 that's it either. 0:12:14.559 --> 0:12:16.920 I mean, I gotta say there's validity in all these, 0:12:16.960 --> 0:12:19.120 but I also agree I don't think that's it. 0:12:19.320 --> 0:12:22.360 My favorite explanation slash guests comes from Reddit, of course, 0:12:22.600 --> 0:12:25.280 or someone suggests that it's hobo slang. I just love 0:12:25.320 --> 0:12:25.920 the word hobo. 0:12:26.200 --> 0:12:28.280 I think it is. It does seem like it is 0:12:28.320 --> 0:12:31.160 like code word. You could say the fuzz, and at 0:12:31.160 --> 0:12:33.559 a time no one understood it, and the people who 0:12:33.600 --> 0:12:36.360 did were like, this is a great private language we have, 0:12:36.679 --> 0:12:39.120 And then it became very trendy and popular, and now 0:12:39.120 --> 0:12:40.480 it's not a code name anymore. 0:12:40.679 --> 0:12:42.720 Yeah, And the theory here is that it maybe it 0:12:42.760 --> 0:12:45.040 referred to like the buzz cut and military styles that 0:12:45.120 --> 0:12:46.760 cops had in the fifties, and said, oh yeah, so 0:12:46.880 --> 0:12:49.120 I feel like that could make sense, right, has everybody 0:12:49.160 --> 0:12:51.040 had long hair, they had buzzed hair. We call them 0:12:51.040 --> 0:12:53.839 the fuzz fuzz anyway, now that I've not helped it 0:12:53.880 --> 0:12:55.679 all there clearing up that question, Yeah. 0:12:55.520 --> 0:12:57.680 Heck of a side mission we had right there that 0:12:57.720 --> 0:12:58.240 was incredible. 0:12:58.280 --> 0:13:00.400 I wanted, I wanted it to deliver it and I 0:13:00.400 --> 0:13:02.480 couldn't land the plane a little side quest. I failed 0:13:02.520 --> 0:13:04.120 to my side quest. But I can't win them all. 0:13:04.440 --> 0:13:07.160 But I was starting to say that cops were everywhere 0:13:07.200 --> 0:13:09.640 doing cops stuff, pulling over cars before they made it 0:13:09.640 --> 0:13:13.280 to the campgrounds, conducting random searches of tents, patrolling undercover 0:13:13.360 --> 0:13:15.760 in the crowds, hoping to bust anyone who smelled even 0:13:15.760 --> 0:13:19.000 a little funny. Yeah, here's what another festival attendee told 0:13:19.040 --> 0:13:23.959 the local news station WJHG, and then Sheriff taits response 0:13:24.040 --> 0:13:24.840 to that, So, I. 0:13:24.880 --> 0:13:26.760 Felt like a lot of people in the festival felt 0:13:26.800 --> 0:13:28.880 like they were being hunted rather than protected. 0:13:29.040 --> 0:13:31.240 If you will say that we were hunting me, okay, 0:13:31.320 --> 0:13:33.000 so be it. We were hunting, but we were hunting 0:13:33.080 --> 0:13:35.960 law violations and drug use. Yes we were. And I 0:13:36.000 --> 0:13:38.920 don't deny that because I told you, if you come 0:13:38.960 --> 0:13:42.120 here and you use drugs and you brain drugs, then yes, 0:13:42.120 --> 0:13:44.040 we were gonna try our best of lof you go up. 0:13:46.200 --> 0:13:51.400 I love some people's misinterpretation of just deciding to make 0:13:51.440 --> 0:13:54.560 assumptions that people have drugs and they are searching and 0:13:54.679 --> 0:13:58.360 have no concept of what freedom is, but yet definitely 0:13:58.760 --> 0:14:02.800 are certain that they're protecting it. He was saving the children, right, 0:14:02.880 --> 0:14:06.400 but no concept of what it even actually is as 0:14:06.600 --> 0:14:07.480 a thing. 0:14:07.760 --> 0:14:08.840 He seemed like a fun guy. 0:14:09.480 --> 0:14:12.000 He seems like kind of clueless. He seems like a 0:14:12.000 --> 0:14:14.640 clueless guy who was like, yeah, of course I was 0:14:14.679 --> 0:14:18.679 targeting people, Like yeah, oh all right, well I have 0:14:18.760 --> 0:14:20.640 to say I would like to search your home because 0:14:20.680 --> 0:14:27.120 I think you might have and he would go, well, 0:14:27.160 --> 0:14:28.640 you can't do that, and now we go, oh, do 0:14:28.680 --> 0:14:29.080 you get it? 0:14:29.080 --> 0:14:32.960 Now? Do you get it now, mister officer, I'll just 0:14:33.000 --> 0:14:34.880 bleeve the specific allegation that you made. 0:14:35.200 --> 0:14:37.240 Yeah, yeah, I was gonna describe it further, but I 0:14:37.280 --> 0:14:41.320 was like, oh, wait, this is a family show exactly. 0:14:43.600 --> 0:14:45.960 So yeah, I will so you can get a sense 0:14:46.000 --> 0:14:48.120 of the heavy handed policing that went down this thing. 0:14:48.240 --> 0:14:51.360 So really the problem necessarily wasn't the attendees, it was 0:14:51.360 --> 0:14:53.240 the cops. But by the end of the weekend they 0:14:53.240 --> 0:14:56.720 had arrested over fifty people, probably more in traffic stops. 0:14:56.760 --> 0:14:59.680 For reference, there were only twenty eight arrests at burning 0:14:59.720 --> 0:15:02.800 Man twenty twenty four, despite eight times the number of people. 0:15:02.960 --> 0:15:04.200 So yes, this guy. 0:15:04.720 --> 0:15:07.120 So you know, there's cops at burning Man and they're 0:15:07.120 --> 0:15:10.040 all just very They are sort of doing the job 0:15:10.080 --> 0:15:12.560 that you sort of fantasized that a cop would be 0:15:12.640 --> 0:15:16.360 doing and in normal society, which is just being helpful. 0:15:16.440 --> 0:15:18.440 And I mean I had a cop alert me that 0:15:18.480 --> 0:15:20.440 there was a storm coming the next day at four 0:15:20.440 --> 0:15:22.440 o'clock and be ready for it, and I was like, oh, 0:15:22.520 --> 0:15:24.600 that was not the interaction I thought I was about 0:15:24.640 --> 0:15:24.840 to have. 0:15:25.760 --> 0:15:27.600 So yeah, they're just not like bugging any They're just 0:15:27.640 --> 0:15:28.640 there if something does. 0:15:28.480 --> 0:15:30.720 They're there to help because things do happen and you know, 0:15:30.880 --> 0:15:34.360 they step in. And also it's no secret that there's 0:15:34.440 --> 0:15:37.920 obviously drug use at burning Man, but people are pretty 0:15:37.920 --> 0:15:39.480 discreet about it. 0:15:39.680 --> 0:15:42.280 Well, most of the arrests in Vortec Springs were for 0:15:42.360 --> 0:15:44.520 possession of illegal substances, and I think we just learned 0:15:44.560 --> 0:15:46.760 that maybe these people weren't even openly using that they 0:15:46.760 --> 0:15:50.120 were just like Sheriff John, just like busted into their tents. 0:15:50.200 --> 0:15:53.560 And Yeah, one woman was cuffed for sticking her feet 0:15:53.640 --> 0:15:57.160 in the vendors drinking water and for quote terrorizing everyone. 0:15:57.920 --> 0:16:00.840 So maybe she crossed the line. Yeah, see that's there 0:16:00.880 --> 0:16:01.200 you go. 0:16:03.880 --> 0:16:06.560 Maybe gets you off to a quiet little place to 0:16:06.640 --> 0:16:07.520 sleep it off, lady. 0:16:07.680 --> 0:16:07.960 Yeah. 0:16:07.960 --> 0:16:10.520 But the real doozy from that weekend happened in the 0:16:10.680 --> 0:16:13.520 robot DJ booth, which is, if you didn't know, a 0:16:13.560 --> 0:16:16.960 giant robot shape DJ platform. So here's what happened. It's 0:16:16.960 --> 0:16:19.480 on the last day of the festival. A deputy's making 0:16:19.480 --> 0:16:21.840 his rounds when he decides he, for whatever reason, needs 0:16:21.880 --> 0:16:24.320 to get inside the belly of that giant robot. A 0:16:24.400 --> 0:16:27.840 volunteer named James Anderson followed the deputy up the ladder 0:16:27.880 --> 0:16:30.080 into the belly because that area was supposed to be 0:16:30.200 --> 0:16:32.800 limited access, and that's when the fight broke out between 0:16:32.840 --> 0:16:36.040 the two. Oh and Anderson allegedly tried to grab the 0:16:36.080 --> 0:16:38.720 officer's gun and then he took a bite out of 0:16:38.720 --> 0:16:44.960 the deputy's head. Okay, I mean it's a choice. 0:16:45.040 --> 0:16:46.520 We've all been down these roads. 0:16:47.280 --> 0:16:49.880 It was a pretty big chomp. I wouldn't recommend looking 0:16:49.920 --> 0:16:52.440 at the photos online, but for restaurants about the size 0:16:52.440 --> 0:16:58.520 of a silver dollar pancake. No, oh yeah, trigger warning, Yeah, Rory, 0:16:58.560 --> 0:17:00.920 it was so deep that you can see a skull. 0:17:01.240 --> 0:17:03.200 I don't mean to laugh there, Nope, nope, I don't 0:17:03.200 --> 0:17:07.280 need to see that. Anderson even complained that he had 0:17:07.280 --> 0:17:09.560 hair in his teeth after the attack, which is probably 0:17:09.640 --> 0:17:11.560 a time when he should have been keeping his mouth shut. 0:17:12.440 --> 0:17:15.040 Yeah, you had to open earlier, Maybe shut it now. 0:17:15.760 --> 0:17:19.280 Yeah. So ultimately his toddler fighting tactics failed. He was 0:17:19.320 --> 0:17:22.240 tackled to the ground and fortunately just tased, not shot. 0:17:22.359 --> 0:17:25.200 This is Florida, Yep, the guy should be count his blessing. 0:17:25.280 --> 0:17:28.199 Kind of impressive that he's not dead. Yeah, because you know, 0:17:28.640 --> 0:17:30.199 I feel like if you bite a cop, but he 0:17:30.280 --> 0:17:32.280 may be able to say he had caused to pull 0:17:32.359 --> 0:17:33.080 his weapon. 0:17:32.840 --> 0:17:34.160 So I would assume that. 0:17:34.400 --> 0:17:36.520 Yeah, do you want to guess what drugs this guy 0:17:36.600 --> 0:17:36.880 was on? 0:17:37.359 --> 0:17:42.160 Ketamine, acid LSD and two ip as. 0:17:44.680 --> 0:17:46.479 Your batting average is very high on this show. You've 0:17:46.480 --> 0:17:50.560 got three of the five. Oh great, so the IPAs, No, 0:17:50.920 --> 0:17:53.359 it was not the IPA. So it was you said acid, 0:17:53.400 --> 0:17:57.080 you said ketamine, Yeah, LSD, but you missed so oh 0:17:57.119 --> 0:17:58.920 you missed PCP and mushrooms. 0:17:59.200 --> 0:18:02.879 I almost said mushrooms. I wouldn't have guessed PCP, but 0:18:02.960 --> 0:18:06.800 that actually is. I'm gonna say PCP was doing most 0:18:06.840 --> 0:18:07.439 of the lifting. 0:18:11.080 --> 0:18:13.680 I feel like I grew up being told that PCP 0:18:13.800 --> 0:18:15.560 is the one that makes people like jump off building. 0:18:15.640 --> 0:18:18.879 I think PC. Yeah, I think PCP was. If you 0:18:18.880 --> 0:18:21.160 would if you got rid of PCP, I don't think 0:18:21.160 --> 0:18:22.159 this happens. 0:18:24.720 --> 0:18:28.240 Now. His lawyer claimed this client never tested positive for 0:18:28.280 --> 0:18:31.159 those drugs at the hospital, but he did plead no 0:18:31.320 --> 0:18:34.200 contest to aggravated battery on a law enforcement officer and 0:18:34.320 --> 0:18:37.440 was sentenced six years in prison, followed by ten years 0:18:37.440 --> 0:18:40.400 of felony probation. So he's probably really gonna regret taking 0:18:40.400 --> 0:18:40.720 that PC. 0:18:40.960 --> 0:18:42.159 I think he's not happy about it. 0:18:42.240 --> 0:18:45.200 Yeah. The Holmes kind of chief prosecutor said, this is 0:18:45.240 --> 0:18:47.520 the most severe bite wound I've ever seen in my career. 0:18:47.560 --> 0:18:49.120 I guess he's seen a lot of bite ones. Yeah, 0:18:49.160 --> 0:18:54.560