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Speaker 2: All's quiet or all is quiet on the coaching front,
Speaker 2: at least so far, and you have the possibility of
Speaker 2: Mike McCarthy interviewing with the Bears today, and then you
Speaker 2: have some of these other coaches who are still in
Speaker 2: the postseason who aren't afforded that luxury. Now, the Dallas
Speaker 2: Cowboys with Dion Sanders, that's going to get a lot
Speaker 2: of run. That's going to play out until Dallas hires
Speaker 2: a coach. I don't think it's going to be Dion.
Speaker 2: I think Jerry Jones did Diona solid. Dion is in
Speaker 2: negotiations for a contract extension at Colorado. He would normally
Speaker 2: be getting that, but if there's the possibility of the
Speaker 2: Raiders or the Cowboys, maybe he's able to make some
Speaker 2: more money there. Because if you listen or read what
Speaker 2: Dion had to say about his conversation with Jerry Jones,
Speaker 2: he sort of implied inferred that he was offered the job. Hey,
Speaker 2: you know, humbled by this and I got unfinished business
Speaker 2: at Colorado. I don't think there was an offer here.
Speaker 2: It wasn't reported as an offer. Dion kind of took
Speaker 2: it and said basically, yeah, I'm not going to take
Speaker 2: this job right now. I got unfinished business. Wait a minute,
Speaker 2: I didn't offer the job to you. Now, maybe gets
Speaker 2: around to doing that, because you know, normally when you
Speaker 2: fire somebody, we always at least think the owner has
Speaker 2: an idea who he's going to bring in. I truly
Speaker 2: believe that the Craft family with the Patriots knew they
Speaker 2: were bringing in Mike Brabel, and probably knew that in December.
Speaker 2: They probably knew that a month ago where it's like
Speaker 2: this is not working out. They would have brought in
Speaker 2: Mike Brabel if they weren't already contractually binded with girod
Speaker 2: Mayo because they wrote it into his contract that he
Speaker 2: would be the successor to Bill Belichick. Then I think
Speaker 2: they quickly realized he was not ready to be a
Speaker 2: head coach. And it goes back to what I've said
Speaker 2: many many times, not every great coordinator, good coordinator, deserves
Speaker 2: to be a head coach. Ben Johnson is the object
Speaker 2: of desire right now. I don't know what he's like.
Speaker 2: I've never heard him interviewed. I don't know what it's
Speaker 2: like when you're up there and you're answering questions, you
Speaker 2: just lost a tough game. I don't know what kind
Speaker 2: of culture is he able to be around Dan Campbell
Speaker 2: and go I'm gonna have that same culture wherever I go.
Speaker 2: I don't know. Is he gonna go to the Raiders?
Speaker 2: How does that go with Tom Brady's game this weekend?
Speaker 2: He's got that game, He's got the Lions game of
Speaker 2: the Commanders. What happens if they show Ben Johnson on
Speaker 2: the sideline? Is Tom Brady, minority owner of the Raiders,
Speaker 2: allowed to talk about Ben Johnson? Does he have any
Speaker 2: inside info? Which I would believe he would. I like
Speaker 2: how the NFL makes it seem like this isn't a
Speaker 2: conflict of interest. Seaton brought up something this morning, But
Speaker 2: imagine if Jerry Jones was going to be the analyst
Speaker 2: for a game. He love that and he's looking for
Speaker 2: a head coach. Is there a conflict of interest there?
Speaker 3: Yes, Eton, Yeah, I mean, like, could you imagine Robert
Speaker 3: Kraft immediately like, well, you know here, Drodmeo really not
Speaker 3: getting it done. I think we're going to fire him
Speaker 3: at the end of the game, and that means we're
Speaker 3: open for business.
Speaker 2: But the NFL, you know, the NFL is bending over
Speaker 2: backwards to help Tom. It feels like or looking the
Speaker 2: other way. Conflict of interest, that is what it is.
Speaker 2: And then you go back in the way back machine
Speaker 2: to how they went after Tom, like you know, they
Speaker 2: were going after him in a big time, big way,
Speaker 2: like they were investigating him. Then this is like, you know,
Speaker 2: he's with Fox, he's going to be calling the super Bowl.
Speaker 2: Let's play nice, probably his last year as a broadcaster.
Speaker 2: No conflict of interest here, yes, Eton, I love like.
Speaker 3: This is so actually blatant conflict of interest that's right
Speaker 3: in our faces.
Speaker 4: That makes me wonder what are the other conflicts of.
Speaker 3: Interest that they're also like, Ah, don't worry about that,
Speaker 3: that's no big deal. Don't worry about it because this
Speaker 3: one is right in our faces. Everybody could see it.
Speaker 3: There's probably a million more that are behind the scenes,
Speaker 3: like I just wink at that. Don't worry about that.
Speaker 4: That's fine.
Speaker 2: What about if it's a blowout. Let's say the lines
Speaker 2: are up like twenty one with I don't seven minutes
Speaker 2: to go. You got to fill a little time, and
Speaker 2: all of a sudden, you're gonna go, uh, well, Ben
Speaker 2: Johnson's gonna get a job Tom somewhere. Yeah, he certainly
Speaker 2: seems like a good candidate to me.
Speaker 5: Anymore on that, Tom.
Speaker 2: No, that's all I have.
Speaker 3: Raiders are looking to hire a new coach sometime before
Speaker 3: the draft.
Speaker 2: That they wait, Is that your Tom Brady?
Speaker 3: All of a sudden, he's got a hardcore accent where
Speaker 3: he talks about you know, the podcast for the I
Speaker 3: was talking about the draft on the podcast.
Speaker 2: WHOA what dude?
Speaker 4: Where did that accent come from?
Speaker 2: I now, now I'm going to be listening for that.
Speaker 6: Yes, Todd or Brady goes the other way and pretends
Speaker 6: he's not interested. It's like I Ben. Everybody's on this
Speaker 6: Ben Johnson bandwagon. I don't know. When everyone doesn't reson,
Speaker 6: then he swoops in at the last minute when everyone
Speaker 6: thinks that the Raiders aren't.
Speaker 2: Interested, it's the Ben wagon. I think it's I'm on
Speaker 2: the Ben wagon here? Yeah? Does he go out of
Speaker 2: his way to say, yeah, I don't know, I don't
Speaker 2: get it, you know, all right, gimme keep plays. I
Speaker 2: don't know if that works consistent.
Speaker 6: Some are just coordinators. They're not necessarily going to make
Speaker 6: great head coaches.
Speaker 2: So I don't know, yes, yes, or Brady goes the
Speaker 2: other way.
Speaker 5: Sam Laporta catches like a pass on the I cannot
Speaker 5: wait to see him dial that up for Powers next year.
Speaker 2: I can't wait.
Speaker 5: Like he just puts it all out there.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, uh so that's no conflict of interest there
Speaker 2: with that game coming up this weekend with the Lions
Speaker 2: and the Commanders. See, now you're going to listen. Now
Speaker 2: we're going to read into how many times do you
Speaker 2: listen to a game where you're gonna be eating into
Speaker 2: maybe an ulterior motive. Troy Aikman came out after what
Speaker 2: the last game that he and Joe did and said
Speaker 2: something about the Cowboys job not being a good job
Speaker 2: or desirable. But Troy is not part of the Cowboys,
Speaker 2: or he's not part of another organization ripping the Cowboys.
Speaker 2: Tom Is he's got his fingerprints all over this. He's
Speaker 2: going to be making these changes, He's making these decisions,
Speaker 2: but he's also going to be broadcasting a game where
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Speaker 2: It's overwhelming that they think it'll be the Chiefs and
Speaker 2: the Lions. Then it's the Chiefs and the Eagles, Ravens Lions.
Speaker 2: So Chiefs and Lions plus three seventy Chiefs Eagles and
Speaker 2: the Ravens Lions plus five hundred, and then they have
Speaker 2: the Bills and the Lions plus five point fifty. So
Speaker 2: they're not factoring in the Commanders or the Rams in
Speaker 2: this situation. And if you're betting, the best odds, according
Speaker 2: to Vegas, will be the Chiefs and the Lions meeting
Speaker 2: in the Super Bowl.
Speaker 5: Yes, Paul, So as of today, Vegas likes the Eagles
Speaker 5: more than the Lions.
Speaker 2: They no, No, they have the Lions against the Chiefs. Oh,
Speaker 2: and then that's the Chiefs against Yeah, they have the
Speaker 2: Chiefs against the Eagles, got it. And then they have
Speaker 2: the raven No, they really like the Lions because they've
Speaker 2: got them facing the Chiefs and facing the Ravens and
Speaker 2: facing the Bills. So if I'm going to plan this,
Speaker 2: the Bills versus the Lions would be where I would go.
Speaker 2: Somebody's winning a super Bowl here? Yeah? Is that how
Speaker 2: they sell it? And welcome to the super Bowl. Somebody
Speaker 2: has to win this game these and can you imagine
Speaker 2: the pain for one of these fan bases if Buffalo
Speaker 2: plays Detroit? Which fan base would hurt more if they
Speaker 2: lost this Super Bowl? Oh boy, I'm skewing negative eleven
Speaker 2: minutes in Dang. I started out great with Strawberry Quick,
Speaker 2: then I went to Brady conflict of interest, and now
Speaker 2: I'm talking about pain misery for a fan base.
Speaker 5: Yes, Paul, I think this is a good question. And
Speaker 5: my instant reaction was the Bills would have more pain.
Speaker 5: They've been expecting to get a Super Bowl for the
Speaker 5: past five years. They finally get there. They had the
Speaker 5: for four stretch. Lions never even had that stretch, and
Speaker 5: then you lose to the team that's never been there.
Speaker 2: But considering this is recency bias from you just lost
Speaker 2: in dramatic fashion last year for you're the Lions. So
Speaker 2: it's not like the Buffalo Bills back in the nineties
Speaker 2: when they're losing super Bowls. It's this is the Lions
Speaker 2: team that's supposed to win the Super Bowl? Are we
Speaker 2: they're the favorites?
Speaker 5: Are we instituting the pain meter as of today?
Speaker 2: Sure? Yeah, Seaton, what's the pole question? I don't know.
Speaker 2: Do we want to start out with which fan base
Speaker 2: would suffer more? In a No, I can't do that.
Speaker 2: I can't do that today because that's what we're doing.
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Speaker 4: Seed, It's definitely one of them.
Speaker 2: Wow, that's for sure.
Speaker 3: Which fan base would suffer more if they lost to
Speaker 3: the Super Bowl? Buffalo Bill's Detroit Lions.
Speaker 4: That is a lot of fun we.
Speaker 3: Can also put up there. Tom Brady being an NFL
Speaker 3: broadcaster and owner. Is a massive conflict of interest or
Speaker 3: no big deal?
Speaker 2: Well, let's go round the room here, because I want
Speaker 2: to be fair to the topic here, Todd, do you
Speaker 2: think it's a conflict of interest that Brady is a
Speaker 2: minority owner while calling games?
Speaker 6: I think it's a conflict of interest. But if the
Speaker 6: phrase is massive conflict of interest, I would lean the
Speaker 6: other way. I think it's a conflict of interest. I
Speaker 6: don't think it's a massive conflict.
Speaker 3: With Okay Seaton, Uh, okay, maybe we'll take out massive.
Speaker 3: Then I would say it is a massive conflict of interest. Okay, then,
Speaker 3: especially more like the more that it's not exactly a
Speaker 3: new story, but the more that it sits with me,
Speaker 3: and the more that everybody's just kicking around head coaching
Speaker 3: candidates and all this stuff, and you're like, you got
Speaker 3: this dude doing kid, This is crazy. How in the
Speaker 3: world could you allow that to happen?
Speaker 2: Marvin, conflict of interest?
Speaker 7: As much as I love minority owner in the NFL, now,
Speaker 7: conflict of interest?
Speaker 2: No, it is oh okay, okay, Pauly, conflict of interest.
Speaker 5: It's the definition of conflict of interest. It's direct. It's
Speaker 5: not even like a layer removed. And what's worse is
Speaker 5: the NFL gave Tom special treatment to make it happen.
Speaker 5: They let him become a broadcaster and approved him becoming
Speaker 5: an owner, which they did not have to do in
Speaker 5: any way.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like I they could have kept him in
Speaker 2: the on deck circle before, you know. But I don't
Speaker 2: think the NFL wants him to get out out of
Speaker 2: the broadcasting booth. I think that they want him there.
Speaker 2: I think Fox of course wants him there, and he's
Speaker 2: going to be doing the Super Bowl. But as I've
Speaker 2: said for the last couple of months, it feels like
Speaker 2: he's moving on to something else and maybe he's won
Speaker 2: and done doing these games and he gets to do
Speaker 2: a Super Bowl.
Speaker 5: Yes, Paul, it's kind of like what Seton said, almost
Speaker 5: jokingly about Jerry Jones. Would they make him a broadcaster?
Speaker 5: If I were an NBA broadcast team, I would consider
Speaker 5: hiring someone like Mark Cuban to be on my staff.
Speaker 5: But the conflict would be he owns the Mavericks and
Speaker 5: you couldn't. But he's a star, he's a good guy,
Speaker 5: he talks well. If I'm ana, can an NBA do this?
Speaker 5: I don't think they could well.
Speaker 2: I think he's now a minority owner with the Mavericks,
Speaker 2: so it would be identical if he was doing games.
Speaker 2: I think Mark sold a good portion of the Dallas Mavericks.
Speaker 2: I think so.
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Speaker 2: I saw a tweet from ed Werder and of course
Speaker 2: always reading Ed Werders tweets, and had something to do
Speaker 2: with the Cowboys. Ed is a Cowboy insider for w
Speaker 2: FAA TV in Dallas, had to do with Dion, had
Speaker 2: to do with Jerry Jones, and maybe maybe this is
Speaker 2: actually in the on deck circling could happen and ed
Speaker 2: warder kind of enough to join us. So you piqued
Speaker 2: my interest with this, So explain what your tweet was
Speaker 2: all about.
Speaker 10: That was my one and only interest in tweeting Dan
Speaker 10: was to get your attention, thank you, and to have
Speaker 10: an opportunity to make a long awaited guest appearance on
Speaker 10: the show. If you want to play golf again, let
Speaker 10: me know. Yeah, so I've I've been obviously following the
Speaker 10: Cowboys you know for a long time, but you know,
Speaker 10: certainly throughout this season and extending that coverage through the
Speaker 10: dismissal of Mike McCarthy, which I think surprised a lot
Speaker 10: of people, even those of us who covered the team
Speaker 10: on a regular basis. And you know, when you start
Speaker 10: configuring a list of potential candidates to be the next
Speaker 10: head coach, only in Dallas do you have to make
Speaker 10: sure to include Dion Sanders and Jason Witten former you know,
Speaker 10: Cowboys tight end great who Jerry is enamored with, who
Speaker 10: has only coached at the high school level. Regarding Dion,
Speaker 10: obviously we know that he has not yet formally interviewed
Speaker 10: for the job. The Cowboys have extended invitations to Leslie
Speaker 10: Frazier and Robert Salah to be the first two to
Speaker 10: interview formerly for the job. But Dion told Adam Schefter
Speaker 10: the other day that Jerry Jones reached out to him
Speaker 10: and they discussed the job, and everything I continue to
Speaker 10: be told Dan is that Jerry is interested. It was
Speaker 10: described to me as he's enamored with the idea. Obviously,
Speaker 10: it's hard to imagine any coaching candidate who could create
Speaker 10: more interest someone that Jerry could more sell to the
Speaker 10: fan base here which needs to happen, and make Jerry
Speaker 10: more money than Dion Sanders. I mean, he won a
Speaker 10: Super Bowl here as a player. So there are also
Speaker 10: people around Dion who tell me that he's being urged
Speaker 10: by his supporters in Colorado to take the job, and
Speaker 10: that they believe if Jerry ever does offer him the job,
Speaker 10: that he will take. That he has an extension to
Speaker 10: remain at Colorado on his desk that he hasn't even
Speaker 10: looked at as he considers these other possibilities. But you know,
Speaker 10: I mean, there are also people close to Dion who
Speaker 10: tell me they don't see it happening, but they've seen
Speaker 10: things happen with Jerry Jones that they didn't expect to
Speaker 10: happen before. And he did hire Barry Switzer, So you
Speaker 10: can't rule anything out. He's the most unpredictable owner in
Speaker 10: the NFL on any subject, especially this one.
Speaker 2: But do you think that Jerry Jones had somebody in
Speaker 2: mind when he was willing to let Mike McCarthy leave.
Speaker 10: I assume that Jerry's done this enough times. This is
Speaker 10: his eighth time that he knows before you let somebody
Speaker 10: who has some value. It has proven himself to the degree,
Speaker 10: you know, Mike McCarthy has as a head coach in
Speaker 10: this league with two different franchises that you're sure you're
Speaker 10: going to get somebody who you think is going to
Speaker 10: do a better job.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I man for some reason. And I was talking
Speaker 2: to Tim Callishaw, of course he covers the Cowboys, and
Speaker 2: he said Dion was treating this as if he was
Speaker 2: offered the job.
Speaker 10: Like.
Speaker 2: His response was, Hey, I'm honored or humboled or whatever,
Speaker 2: but I got work to do as if he was
Speaker 2: getting the job offer. And then I thought, well, maybe
Speaker 2: is Jerry doing Dion a favor by Hey, maybe we
Speaker 2: have some interest here and that helps him even more
Speaker 2: with that extension at Colorado. But you think this is real,
Speaker 2: This is something that could happen.
Speaker 10: I think it has merit, and I think when we're
Speaker 10: talking about Jerry and Dion, you always have to be
Speaker 10: wary of how this conversation could benefit each of them,
Speaker 10: and it certainly does. But I think there is a
Speaker 10: possibility of it happening. I mean, Dion apparently told Adam
Speaker 10: Schefter that he doesn't need to use the Cowboys's leverage
Speaker 10: to get what he wants at Colorado that he's him
Speaker 10: and there's probably a lot of truth in that, given
Speaker 10: the effect he's had on that program and the attention
Speaker 10: he's brought to it and the money that's been dedicated
Speaker 10: to the program since then. But yeah, and I think
Speaker 10: a key figure if this were to go very far,
Speaker 10: would be Mike Zimmer. You know, Mike Zimmer was a
Speaker 10: defensive coordinator here this most recent season under Mike McCarthy,
Speaker 10: coached under five head coaches in Dallas, and he has
Speaker 10: not decided what he's going to do in terms of
Speaker 10: whether he wants to continue coaching or not. I think
Speaker 10: a lot of that is dependent upon what direction Jerry
Speaker 10: decides to go and hiring the next head coach.
Speaker 1: And he would.
Speaker 10: Certainly, almost certainly Dan be a part of it if
Speaker 10: Dion Sanders is the coach, because Mike is very close
Speaker 10: to Dion. He coached him when he was here. He
Speaker 10: was close, so close to his program at Jackson State
Speaker 10: and then at Colorado that there were people speculating that
Speaker 10: Zimmer was going to be the defensive coordinator of Colorado.
Speaker 10: That never happened, but Zimmer made it clear during the
Speaker 10: season when we spoke to him that he does frequently
Speaker 10: still speak to Deon Sanders, so I'm sure he would
Speaker 10: be heavily involved in that. And it's interesting that he
Speaker 10: has made no mention or or offered no decision on
Speaker 10: his future.
Speaker 2: Okay, but we've talked about Jerry and he hires coaches
Speaker 2: that are submissive and malleable, and that's not Dion. So
Speaker 2: is Jerry finally maybe coming around to that I need
Speaker 2: to have somebody be a head coach, act like a
Speaker 2: head coach and not be looking over their shoulder constantly.
Speaker 10: Well, do you think that Jerry would think that there's
Speaker 10: not room for him to influence Dion Sanders, who's never
Speaker 10: coached at the NFL level, on how he views his
Speaker 10: best route to being successful. I think Jerry would see
Speaker 10: this as a very a very positive opportunity for him
Speaker 10: to influence the way Dion Sanders coaches Jerry's football team. Now,
Speaker 10: was interesting that during the season, when Jerry was first
Speaker 10: asked about Dion, you know, he praised him as one
Speaker 10: of his favorite players of all time, and you know
Speaker 10: his competitiveness that he brought to the team, but he
Speaker 10: also sort of dismissed his value as a head coach
Speaker 10: in the NFL, because he said, what Dion offers now,
Speaker 10: that's most attractive and most influences his success at CU
Speaker 10: at the college level is his ability to recruit, and
Speaker 10: that's not going to be a significant part of his
Speaker 10: success in the NFL should he opt to coach in
Speaker 10: the NFL.
Speaker 2: And that's true.
Speaker 10: I mean, he could influence free agents, but the Cowboys
Speaker 10: have not been heavily involved in free agency in recent years,
Speaker 10: to their own detriment. Quite honestly, you know, they were
Speaker 10: the last team to sign a player four out of
Speaker 10: the last five years. So it was interesting to me
Speaker 10: that Jerry thought that was the most unique ability Dion
Speaker 10: possessed and that it would not be a significant factor
Speaker 10: in whether he succeeded at the NFL level.
Speaker 2: Did Mike McCarthy want out?
Speaker 10: That's not the sense I got. I mean, when the
Speaker 10: season ended, he was unequivocal and very public about the
Speaker 10: fact that his goal in the next few days was to.
Speaker 1: Remain in Dallas.
Speaker 10: He said he had made an investment in Dallas, the
Speaker 10: Cowboys had made an investment in him. I think his
Speaker 10: family wanted to be here. I sincerely think Mike McCarthy
Speaker 10: wanted and expected it to work out, and I don't
Speaker 10: know that we fully understand the real reasons.
Speaker 2: It did. Great to talk to you always, Ed, Thank you. Thanks.
Speaker 2: An Ed Werder covers The Cowboys for WFAA TV in Dallas.
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Speaker 2: big basketball game last night. You probably didn't watch it.
Speaker 2: But the Oklahoma City Thunder now thirty four and six,
Speaker 2: they rough up the Cavaliers as they win by twenty
Speaker 2: and trying to make somebody a star in a city
Speaker 2: that doesn't make stars or a game that probably doesn't
Speaker 2: bear itself out and highlights on the Mothership. That's Shay
Speaker 2: Gilgis Alexander. You'd have to work on the name, the
Speaker 2: game and the fact that he's in Oklahoma City, but
Speaker 2: I think all signs are leading to him being the
Speaker 2: MVP this year. Might be a little MVP voter fatigue
Speaker 2: with the Joker, but Shay Gilgis is averaging over thirty
Speaker 2: a game. He had over forty last night against the Cavaliers.
Speaker 2: We'll talk about that coming up. And he was second.
Speaker 2: He finished runner up to Joker last year, so it's
Speaker 2: not going to be a big surprise, but we'll talk
Speaker 2: about that. You're trying or it feels like there's analysts
Speaker 2: trying to let you know, watch him play. It's just
Speaker 2: he's not a highlight machine. He's just extremely economically great.
Speaker 2: It just he goes out there and he'll give you
Speaker 2: forty points. I think he's done that six times so
Speaker 2: far this season, all Righty, Todd, I'm going to start
Speaker 2: with you. You have a few Friday Fritzy Poll.
Speaker 6: Questions Texans Aside, if the Lions reached the Super Bowl,
Speaker 6: who should they want to play? That would be the Bills,
Speaker 6: Chiefs or Ravens. Who should the Lions want to play
Speaker 6: if they're fortunate enough to reach the Super Bowl?
Speaker 2: I think it's weird to say the obvious answer would
Speaker 2: be the Kansas City Chiefs because they feel vulnerable at
Speaker 2: fifteen and two. I want no part of Patrick Mahomes
Speaker 2: in a big game. I don't. I don't been down
Speaker 2: that road too many times. No, not gonna do you
Speaker 2: give me. Lamar Jackson maybe one of the greatest seasons
Speaker 2: ever by a quarterback, and Josh Allen is probably going
Speaker 2: to be the runner up to him for MVP. I'll
Speaker 2: take my chances because those guys haven't been in this
Speaker 2: situation before. It's the same thing with Tom Brady. I
Speaker 2: don't know how many years he wasn't the best quarterback
Speaker 2: in the league. But if you said you got to
Speaker 2: win one game or you had a game winning drive
Speaker 2: and you gave him the football or anybody else, you said,
Speaker 2: I'll take him. And that's what Mahomes is. Mahomes is
Speaker 2: not a stat machine. He hasn't been. They've changed the
Speaker 2: whole complexion of this team. It's a defensive team. They
Speaker 2: do run the football. Travis Kelcey has regressed a little
Speaker 2: bit the last couple of years. During the regular season.
Speaker 2: He's another guy where you go, Man, I don't know.
Speaker 2: It seems to be slowing down a little bit, and
Speaker 2: it'll be like seven catches for ninety yards. And with Mahomes, somehow,
Speaker 2: some way, you can't game plan for third and fifteen
Speaker 2: and he gets out of the pocket dances down the
Speaker 2: sidelines for sixteen. So I would say, I'll take my
Speaker 2: chances with Buffalo or the Texans or the Baltimore Ravens,
Speaker 2: anybody taking Kansas City that the Lions would want to
Speaker 2: face O Todd, Okay, and.
Speaker 6: It'll be extra special to keep them from the three peats.
Speaker 6: I think the Chiefs, to me, I understand your point,
Speaker 6: which are all valid, are a little less scary than
Speaker 6: Lamar and Josh and those two teams.
Speaker 2: Okay. But if I said the Broncos were in the
Speaker 2: AFC title game and you could face the Ravens, Bills
Speaker 2: are Chiefs who were you taking.
Speaker 6: Based on what happened in the regular season. They got
Speaker 6: destroyed forty one to ten against the Ravens. The Bills
Speaker 6: just destroyed the Broncos. Denver almost beat the Chiefs in
Speaker 6: Kansas City on a block field goal, and then they
Speaker 6: let them be done thirty eight to nothing. I'm gonna
Speaker 6: say I would take the Chiefs.
Speaker 7: They know us.
Speaker 6: But we know them. We played them twice a year,
Speaker 6: and I just think the Chiefs are ripe for the taking,
Speaker 6: as if Bills and Ravens scamming more than the Chiefs,
Speaker 6: even with all the experience in seeing.
Speaker 2: What about you?
Speaker 4: Yeah, we us let's go.
Speaker 3: Yeah Yeah. I feel like the Chiefs are actually the
Speaker 3: last team that I want I would want to face,
Speaker 3: and probably for all of the reasons you just mentioned
Speaker 3: actually going for the three p They're completely unpredictable. I
Speaker 3: feel like you can game plan for a lot of
Speaker 3: different things, but you really can't game plan for that.
Speaker 3: You know, fourth and seventeen, You've got Patrick Mahomes exactly
Speaker 3: where you want to be scrambling, he jumps out of
Speaker 3: bounds and somehow throws a thirty seven yard dart to
Speaker 3: a wide open Kelsey. And this year like, what the hell,
Speaker 3: we just had him sacked, We just had them on
Speaker 3: fourth down.
Speaker 4: You know, you can't really game plan for that, But.
Speaker 2: You would also look at that game planning that Josh
Speaker 2: Allen is capable of those crazy plays and Lamar Jackson
Speaker 2: capable of those plays. I've just seen it when the
Speaker 2: game is on the line and it's time to pucker
Speaker 2: and Mahomes is awesome.
Speaker 3: Yes, right, those guys are all capable of those things.
Speaker 3: But Patrick Mahomes does them regularly, and right, those other
Speaker 3: two quarterbacks they have more of a history of.
Speaker 4: Puckering. As you'd say that, they just makes them less scary.
Speaker 5: Yeah, Paulie, I'm with you. I want no part of
Speaker 5: the Chiefs. The Chiefs have been ripe for the taking
Speaker 5: for three straight years. It seems like every week they're down,
Speaker 5: every game they're down. How many playoff games have they
Speaker 5: been down? If I were a Lions fan going into
Speaker 5: the fourth quart of the Super Bowl up two touchdowns
Speaker 5: on the Chiefs, I'd be like, oh no, oh.
Speaker 2: My, it would never be caught it. He's got us
Speaker 2: just where he wants us, right, you know, never comfortable.
Speaker 2: Dang it, dang it, we're only up two touchdowns going
Speaker 2: into the fourth quarter. But the Ravens in Buffalo and
Speaker 2: the Ravens favored on the road by one and a half.
Speaker 2: You know, you start to look at these and I
Speaker 2: always go, what's Vegas want me to do? Is Vegas saying,
Speaker 2: you know what, you got to take the bills. They're
Speaker 2: getting one and a half at a home. That's what
Speaker 2: they're saying to you. And then you look at these
Speaker 2: numbers with the Commanders and the Lions eight and a half,
Speaker 2: Texans Chiefs eight and a half. It feels and this
Speaker 2: isn't fair to the Texans. I'll say that up front,
Speaker 2: like the Commanders are capable, might be more capable of
Speaker 2: beating the Lions in Detroit than the Texans beating the
Speaker 2: Chiefs in Kansas City. And maybe that's you know, just
Speaker 2: the perception of or the lack of respect the Texans get,
Speaker 2: but eight and a half for both of these teams
Speaker 2: on the road. And then the Rams and the Eagles
Speaker 2: six point game. And I started to look at some
Speaker 2: of the prop bets. Here if I said, over under
Speaker 2: rushing yard Saquon Barkley against the Rams, Marvin, you got
Speaker 2: a guess here, seventy five and a half all right,
Speaker 2: Seaton eighty two, Paul eighty nine and a half.
Speaker 6: Todd I'm going to say ninety four and a half.
Speaker 2: One twelve and a half.
Speaker 4: That's aggressive, no respect.
Speaker 2: That surprised me a little bit there. Yeah, yeah, uh.
Speaker 2: They expect Josh Allen to have more passing yards than
Speaker 2: Lamar Jackson. How about Derrick Henry over under rushing yards
Speaker 2: Ravens Bills.
Speaker 1: Paul.
Speaker 2: Ninety six and a half, Marvin.
Speaker 7: Eighty eight, Todd ninety and a half.
Speaker 4: Seaton two hundred and twenty seven and one a half.
Speaker 2: Ninety seven and a half, PAULI had ninety six and
Speaker 2: a half. Yes, Patrick Mahomes passing yards against the Texans,
Speaker 2: Paul kind of low.
Speaker 5: I'm gonna go to twenty nine and a half, all right, Marvin.
Speaker 6: Two forty eight and a half Todd, Well, I kind
Speaker 6: of split the difference there to thirty seven and a
Speaker 6: half between those two gun.
Speaker 3: All right, Seaton, no connor, I'm gonna this is a
Speaker 3: bad guest, But to twenty seven and a half.
Speaker 2: To twenty seven and a half is CJ. Strouds over.
Speaker 7: Gotta give him love for that.
Speaker 2: Patrick Mahomes is two fifty and a half. Just some
Speaker 2: of the random things here. Yeah, they got Josh Allen
Speaker 2: two forty eight and a half, Lamar Jackson to twenty
Speaker 2: four and a half, but uh and Pukainakua. They expect
Speaker 2: him to have a really good game over under his
Speaker 2: eighty eight and a half yards in that matchup. All right,
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Speaker 2: NFL Network. A little later on, we'll have the most
Speaker 2: must win game of the weekend. Got her play of
Speaker 2: the day coming up. Kind of a quiet last couple
Speaker 2: of days with the coaching moves. Aaron Rodgers talks about
Speaker 2: talking to the Jets, but Vegas has a new team,
Speaker 2: a new place that Aaron Rodgers, if he decides to
Speaker 2: play next year, that that would be the place that
Speaker 2: he would be going to. Paulie, I'll start with you.
Speaker 2: Vegas thinks that if Aaron Rodgers plays again, you know what,
Speaker 2: let me play. Aaron Rodgers on McAfee's show talking with
Speaker 2: the Jets, I.
Speaker 11: Gave some constructive things. It's there's so much that goes
Speaker 11: into the whole thing. There's there's the food path, there's
Speaker 11: the locker room. There's travel, there's hotel stuff, there's different
Speaker 11: you know, you're just giving a little constructive things here
Speaker 11: and there that maybe they take the heart, maybe they don't.
Speaker 11: I think everybody understands that it's going to come down
Speaker 11: to a GM and a coach and myself and whether
Speaker 11: we all want to do a dance together or if
Speaker 11: it's it's not in the cards, Okay.
Speaker 2: Do a little dance, make a little love get down tonight,
Speaker 2: down tonight. Figured that'd be right.
Speaker 6: Set me up lovely, even though you didn't mean to do.
Speaker 2: You know who sing sings that?
Speaker 5: Not?
Speaker 6: Sure?
Speaker 2: Casey? Okay, the Sunshine tod do you want?
Speaker 7: That's not them?
Speaker 2: It's not them, that's the Bay City Rollers. Wow, come on,
Speaker 2: let's go, Come on, come on, how can I fail
Speaker 2: that the months questions? Don't mail it in just because
Speaker 2: it's Friday. Let's go. I got to pick it up
Speaker 2: every day. Is the Super Bowl all right? Here? It
Speaker 2: is Vegas. Is the place that Vegas thinks that Aaron
Speaker 2: Rodgers is going to go. Yeah, the Raiders are the
Speaker 2: favorites for Aaron Rodgers. And uh I was a little
Speaker 2: bit surprised. Well, we brought this up here can you
Speaker 2: get him to come in as your bridge quarterback? Would
Speaker 2: Tom Brady entertain that as the new owner of the Raiders? Man,
Speaker 2: unless I thought my team could be good and compete,
Speaker 2: you know. I mean, you're in a division where the Broncos, Chargers,
Speaker 2: and Chiefs all made the playoffs. So is Aaron Rodgers
Speaker 2: going to help me with anything other than attendance? And
Speaker 2: you're already a tourist attraction. Now you don't have a
Speaker 2: home field advantage. But do I want Aaron Rodgers or
Speaker 2: do I bring in somebody else and go? Can I
Speaker 2: get through this next season and then maybe we start
Speaker 2: to build this into a champion again? Yes, Paul.
Speaker 5: Lifestyle wise, it makes a ton of sense for Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 5: He could live out by pow Rump or Area fifty
Speaker 5: one or what do they get a double wide out there?
Speaker 5: What a satellite dish? He'd be perfect lifestyle wise.
Speaker 2: Okay, anybody else have thought?
Speaker 7: Now?
Speaker 2: I thought maybe Pittsburgh, But he just doesn't fit in
Speaker 2: with what Pittsburgh's whole philosophy is. I can't see that happening.
Speaker 2: I mean, Russ didn't really fit in. I mean he tried,
Speaker 2: but I just can't imagine Aaron being on McAfee talking
Speaker 2: about whatever he's talking about, and then all of a sudden,
Speaker 2: Mike Tomlin's got to go to the press conference say hey,
Speaker 2: Aaron said the following on Pat McAfee. That feels like
Speaker 2: that would get really old, really quick for Tomlin.
Speaker 3: Yes, I think it's got to be someplace that we
Speaker 3: don't expect. They were like, hey, that makes a lot
Speaker 3: of sense. I don't think it's going to be one
Speaker 3: of those wow, that makes a lot of sense places
Speaker 3: at all. Like it it's gonna be like New Orleans
Speaker 3: or something where you're.
Speaker 4: Like, Okay, yeah, I could it's out of nowhere.
Speaker 3: Him and DeVante Adams and two more of his buddies
Speaker 3: are going to be like, why don't we just go
Speaker 3: all land at the Saints.
Speaker 2: Right now feels like it'll be Tennessee or the Raiders
Speaker 2: if I was guessing, I have no information on that
Speaker 2: other than just what I could see maybe one year
Speaker 2: with the Raiders, but they're just not ready to win,
Speaker 2: So why do I want to do that? Why do
Speaker 2: I want to spend that money? It almost feels like
Speaker 2: you take a step back before you take two steps forward,
Speaker 2: and it doesn't mean he can't play a high I
Speaker 2: mean his numbers were really good with the Jets, where
Speaker 2: that's where stats are deceiving. Where you go, man? All right?
Speaker 2: Not bad. The thing that I would want to look
Speaker 2: at is his fourth quarter numbers, because that's the quarterback
Speaker 2: I want. That's what I need. These games are all
Speaker 2: decided by seven points or less. What did your quarterback
Speaker 2: do when the game was on the line, Yes, Todd.
Speaker 6: Along with your thoughts on the Titans in a winnable
Speaker 6: AFC South, would the Colts.
Speaker 7: Take a shot with him for a year?
Speaker 1: They were in the.
Speaker 6: Playoff picture up until towards the very end there, Week sixteen,
Speaker 6: Week seventeen.
Speaker 2: Absolutely absolutely. I mean they do have talent there and
Speaker 2: probably had enough talent to win that division. They just
Speaker 2: didn't get consistent quarterback play. And Anthony Richardson's not ready
Speaker 2: not ready yet, Yes, Marvin.
Speaker 7: For the Colts, that's on brand for them. They brought
Speaker 7: to what Philip Rivers and Matt Ryan. They'll try their
Speaker 7: hand that another veteran quarterback.
Speaker 2: Why not blo bloop blue. We'll take a break when
Speaker 2: we come back. Yeah, is Joe Flacco coming back again? Checking? Yeah? Okay,
Speaker 2: so he might be coming back. Who knows sure? Why not? Yes?
Speaker 5: Mark?
Speaker 7: Can he win a comeback Player of the Year twice?
Speaker 2: Uh?
Speaker 11: Not?
Speaker 2: Back to back?
Speaker 5: I think Chad Pennington is a two time Comeback Player
Speaker 5: of the Year winner. But you can't come back twice
Speaker 5: because if you came back, you have to revert back
Speaker 5: to badness.
Speaker 2: I think. But could something bad happen during that next
Speaker 2: season that you came back from and then you won
Speaker 2: come back player come back, back, back back actually, yeah,
Speaker 2: player of the Year. Yeah. Steve Stricker I think won
Speaker 2: comeback Player of the Year twice on the PGA Tour.
Speaker 2: I think when we come back a little bit later
Speaker 2: on this first hour, we'll bring back a portion of
Speaker 2: the interview I did with Bob Yuker. That was the
Speaker 2: last time that we had him on the show, passing
Speaker 2: away at the age of ninety one.