Speaker 1: Hi, everybody. Welcome to another edition of Packers Unscripted from
Speaker 1: Packers dot Com. I am Mike Spafford, joined as always
Speaker 1: by my trusted colleague Weston Hodkowitz. We're coming to you
Speaker 1: here from our studios at Lambeufield, Wes back from Cleveland,
Speaker 1: where the Packers opened the preseason with an all around
Speaker 1: solid impressive performance. I thought twenty three to ten was
Speaker 1: the final score, but it wasn't even so much those numbers.
Speaker 1: It was everything we saw right from the beginning where
Speaker 1: you couldn't have scripted it any better. For the Packers
Speaker 1: number one offense, third and five, just hit Dontavian Wicks
Speaker 1: for a sixty five yard touchdown and call it a night.
Speaker 2: One play, one catch, one sixty five yard touchdown for
Speaker 2: Dontavian Wicks. It doesn't get much easier than that. As
Speaker 2: far as his evening. But I wrote this in our
Speaker 2: Insider inbox, Calm, I really mean this. I mean it's
Speaker 2: not there's only so much you're gonna be able to
Speaker 2: do as far as your scheme and what you want
Speaker 2: to run out there. It's more about, as Malifor says,
Speaker 2: going through the pre practice process, going through your walkthroughs,
Speaker 2: being able to kind of get your process down before
Speaker 2: the game and then going out there and building some confidence.
Speaker 2: And that's what Jordan Love and the offense did. A
Speaker 2: great throw by Jordan Love, an incredible job by Dantavian
Speaker 2: Wicks getting open on third down, and then once he
Speaker 2: got that one on one matchup with the safety, you know,
Speaker 2: he was off to the races and the number one
Speaker 2: offenses night was over.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and lost a little bit in that too, just
Speaker 1: because the Packers lost a couple of yards on second down,
Speaker 1: but right out of the gate, Josh Jacobs rips off
Speaker 1: a seven yard run. You're sitting in second and three
Speaker 1: after one play, So a good start. They got exactly
Speaker 1: what they wanted out that. As you said, it was
Speaker 1: really more about going through all the pregame stuff and
Speaker 1: really the mental side of that, I think has been
Speaker 1: Matt Luffler's point of just getting mentally ready to play
Speaker 1: a football game so that when it's Brazil and it's
Speaker 1: Week one and it's against the Eagles, that whole pregame
Speaker 1: routine is not suddenly, oh, we're starting over like this
Speaker 1: brand new. So on the defensive side, for the number
Speaker 1: one unit, a couple guys not available, but gave up
Speaker 1: a field goal to the Browns on their opening drive.
Speaker 1: But when you look at the numbers, they only gave
Speaker 1: up twenty seven yards. Yeah, good field position for the
Speaker 1: Browns at the start of the drive. The field goal
Speaker 1: ended up being fifty five yards, which was a heck
Speaker 1: of a kick by their kicker. By the way, Hey York,
Speaker 1: Yeah that was that was That was quite the boot.
Speaker 1: But you know, gave up twenty seven yards. And then
Speaker 1: from there some of the substitutions and rotations and whatnot began.
Speaker 1: And as the game went on, I thought, when you
Speaker 1: look at the bulk of the game was played with
Speaker 1: twos versus twos for the most part, and I thought
Speaker 1: the Packers clearly had the better depth. I think it showed.
Speaker 1: I thought in the trenches in particular, both what the
Speaker 1: Packers offensive line was doing after a couple of rough
Speaker 1: plays early on then they settled in, and what the
Speaker 1: Packers defensive line was doing. I thought Green Bay second
Speaker 1: units controlled the line of scrimmage both days, and that's
Speaker 1: how the Packers ended up building a twenty three to
Speaker 1: three lead, you know, as the game went along.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and when you look at the running totals, especially
Speaker 2: one hundred and fifty five rushing yards too. I believe
Speaker 2: it was fifty six or fifty seven for the Cleveland Browns.
Speaker 2: I mean, they just dominated them in terms of being
Speaker 2: able to move the line of scrimmage and then Emmanuel
Speaker 2: Wilson having a really good night behind it. Jarvian Howard
Speaker 2: also coming in in the fourth quarter four carries I
Speaker 2: should say eight carries for forty four yards. Just really
Speaker 2: were continually able to be able to push the line
Speaker 2: of scrimmage and move the chains. I'll say this though,
Speaker 2: the tone changed in this game for me, and I
Speaker 2: felt like it never went back in terms of the
Speaker 2: Browns where they did get a little bit of a
Speaker 2: series together with Jamis Winston on that first drive, but
Speaker 2: Lucas van Nasks along with DNT DeVante Wyatt, yeah, combined
Speaker 2: to pressure and then sack Jamis Winston on first down
Speaker 2: for a seven yard loss. Browns weren't able to get
Speaker 2: anything back from that. That's what led to the Kate
Speaker 2: Yorke fifty five yarder. Overall, I thought the Packers defensive front.
Speaker 2: Mike and I wrote about this, or I actually said
Speaker 2: it in our Final Thoughts video the Packers win this
Speaker 2: game if the defensive front keeps doing what they were doing. Now,
Speaker 2: Cleveland has some mobile quarterbacks, you know when you look
Speaker 2: at Tyler hunt Lay obviously Jamis, you know, has that
Speaker 2: kind of type of versatility of this game. And then
Speaker 2: seeing them be able to pressure the way they did
Speaker 2: and with a few exceptions not allowing the quarterbacks for
Speaker 2: Cleveland have much time in the pocket. Three sacks total,
Speaker 2: five quarterback hits, and I just felt like Cleveland's offense
Speaker 2: was really never able to get comfortable, and that's because
Speaker 2: the Packers defensive front was sending way after wave. He
Speaker 2: saw it. Even with Brenton Cox at the end of
Speaker 2: the game. I mean, he wasn't able to wrap up
Speaker 2: the quarterback in the fourth quarter, but.
Speaker 1: He had a really good shot at a sack there.
Speaker 2: The pressure that he was able to generate off that,
Speaker 2: I just felt like, again going back and schemes are vanilla,
Speaker 2: but physicality's physicality, and the Packers definitely out physical the Browns.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree with you entirely. I thought I thought
Speaker 1: Lucas van Ness was a was a steady, disruptive presence
Speaker 1: out there, which you would hope and expect from a
Speaker 1: first round pick in his second season going against reserve players,
Speaker 1: and Lucas van Ness looked like exactly that Devonte Wyatt,
Speaker 1: as you mentioned, he looked. He looked quick and explosive
Speaker 1: off the ball. The more we see it, the more
Speaker 1: it just seems that this defensive scheme really fits Devonte
Speaker 1: Wyatt and he has the potential to really thrive. And then,
Speaker 1: I don't know, we talk we talk about these guys
Speaker 1: as as two p's in a pod sometimes even though
Speaker 1: they're very different players, but they were drafted together. Colby
Speaker 1: Wooden and Carl Brooks on the defensive line wouldn't got
Speaker 1: a sack in this game. I thought. Brooks also, you know,
Speaker 1: did his share of things that what the Packers have
Speaker 1: on this defensive line in terms of the rotation and
Speaker 1: the depth and and everything, it really bodes well. And
Speaker 1: then when Matt Lafleur gives the the halftime interview and
Speaker 1: he basically basically says, you know, well, we're just looking
Speaker 1: to get a turnover now. And then on the first
Speaker 1: play of the second half, Evan Williams, the rookie safety,
Speaker 1: coming up to make to make the tackle on a
Speaker 1: screen pass which had set up pretty well for Cleveland.
Speaker 1: But but boom, he's able to punch the ball out.
Speaker 1: Christian Weltz, the linebacker, recovers and right on the opening
Speaker 1: play of the second half, the Packers defense gets the
Speaker 1: turnover that it wanted. And again another example of just
Speaker 1: when Evan Williams is on the field, he finds a
Speaker 1: way to make plays. He's just he's always around the football.
Speaker 1: He's got that, he's got that nose for it, as
Speaker 1: they say. And what we saw on the practice field
Speaker 1: for you know, two three weeks with Evan Williams obviously
Speaker 1: was not some kind of a fluke because he goes
Speaker 1: in there half a dozen tackles, loses his helmet on
Speaker 1: one of them, you know, the whole thing, and gets
Speaker 1: credit with that force fumble.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and to have six tackles on twenty three defensive snaps.
Speaker 2: But that force fumble I thought was just such a
Speaker 2: heady play because Cleveland they had the right counter. When
Speaker 2: when the Packers are being really aggressive, they're getting a
Speaker 2: lot of pressure, what do you do to kind of
Speaker 2: take the air out of the blown a lot. You
Speaker 2: go back to the screen game and that's what they
Speaker 2: did there. But Williams showing the type of player he is.
Speaker 2: He not only punched it out, but talking to him
Speaker 2: in the locker room afterwards, he mentioned, as soon as
Speaker 2: that ball came out, he's looking for it. As he says, though,
Speaker 2: he saw Green jersey, which was Christian Weltz, jump on
Speaker 2: and he knew they had the ball. He knew they
Speaker 2: got what they wanted out of that drive, and Green
Speaker 2: Bay was able to really just control the rest of
Speaker 2: the game from there. But green Bay Packers, Man, they
Speaker 2: overload these positions. We've talked about a time and time
Speaker 2: again in the draft, and it just seems like more
Speaker 2: often than not they find ways to not just find
Speaker 2: one contributor out of that, but two, sometimes even three.
Speaker 2: And this Sevin Williams kids out of Oregon. I always
Speaker 2: find these stories interesting too, because he plays at Fresno
Speaker 2: State transfers to Oregon. He doesn't have like these monster
Speaker 2: like interception numbers, but he comes into camp for the
Speaker 2: Packers thirteen practices, four interceptions, then finds another way to
Speaker 2: make a play on Saturday.
Speaker 1: Yeah. The what the Packers have done at the safety position,
Speaker 1: you know, we talked about it obviously all off season.
Speaker 1: It was a complete revamping in a reset. I mean
Speaker 1: in terms of, you know, the guys who played the
Speaker 1: snaps at safety last year, Anthony Johnson Junior as a
Speaker 1: rookie seventh round pick last year, he was the only
Speaker 1: one who came back. The other safeties were special teamers.
Speaker 1: They didn't really play from defense, and the rest of it.
Speaker 1: Xavier McKinney, the three draft picks. We haven't even seen
Speaker 1: much of katan Ola Dapo yet. Hopefully, you know, he
Speaker 1: maybe gets more of a chance to play against Denver
Speaker 1: and Baltimore and these last two preseason games as he
Speaker 1: tries to show what he has. But the complete overhaul
Speaker 1: of the position, at least to this point, and the
Speaker 1: Packers haven't played a game for real yet, I get that,
Speaker 1: but at least to this point, that complete overhaul the
Speaker 1: position could not have gone any better for Brian Gudokunstan
Speaker 1: the personnel staff in terms of what they gave this
Speaker 1: new defensive coaching staff to work with.
Speaker 2: Well. And I was asking Xavier McKinney this last week when,
Speaker 2: you know, because he had another interception of practice off
Speaker 2: at Jordan Love, and you know, I didn't want to
Speaker 2: make it sound like it was too big of a
Speaker 2: deal because It's like it is practice. You know, there's
Speaker 2: things happening, you know, and I kind of cushion my
Speaker 2: question that way. But then the way that Xavier answered
Speaker 2: it is like no, I mean, interceptions are are the
Speaker 2: most important thing. That's how you get paid in this league.
Speaker 2: And again you will see what it looks like when
Speaker 2: you get to Brazil and when Indianapolis comes to Green Bay.
Speaker 2: But if positions or players aren't making plays and they're
Speaker 2: being quiet, that's not a good thing in training camp.
Speaker 2: The fact that all these safeties from Anthony Johnson Junior
Speaker 2: to the franchise addition in Xavier McKay, the fact that
Speaker 2: all these guys have made noteworthy performances and been noticeable
Speaker 2: this offseason. I just if you're the Packers in this defense,
Speaker 2: they didn't have a lot of holes Mike coming off
Speaker 2: of that run last year, and the way they finished
Speaker 2: the season with how many returning players they came back.
Speaker 2: How many times did we hear Brian Goodikuinz talk about
Speaker 2: how you know they had seventy two players I think
Speaker 2: on the roster before the draft. It just shows you
Speaker 2: they had so many returning bodies. Very unique that they
Speaker 2: had that many guys coming.
Speaker 1: Back function of having such a young team a year ago.
Speaker 2: Absolutely, and they fought through that. They got through it
Speaker 2: the first half of last season, and now here they
Speaker 2: are with what appears to be a position group that
Speaker 2: they heavily invested into because they had the resources, and
Speaker 2: it's paying off.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And Matt Lafleur said after the game that, you know,
Speaker 1: Jeff Hafley had a pretty simple call sheet. It was
Speaker 1: very vanilla scheme wise. It's not like he was dialing
Speaker 1: up a bunch of blitzer or anything. But that was
Speaker 1: by design not only to not necessarily show things and
Speaker 1: put certain schemes on film, but the objective was to
Speaker 1: see what was to get the play style, the you know,
Speaker 1: the the attacking, the you know, all the hats to
Speaker 1: the football kind of thing. And that's exactly how this
Speaker 1: Packers defense played, whether it was the first unit, the
Speaker 1: second unit, the third unit. That's the way they played
Speaker 1: in this preseason opener, and they they got what they wanted.
Speaker 2: Infma add in there as well when you're talking about
Speaker 2: the vanilla schemes and everything else, but you look at
Speaker 2: what happened where the defensive line, or excuse me, the
Speaker 2: offensive line, for the Packers goes out the second team,
Speaker 2: the team is out there, they aren't able to get
Speaker 2: much room for aj Dillon. The stats are what they are.
Speaker 2: They get stuffed on fourth down. But how that group
Speaker 2: settled in, how Sean Ryan settled in at center, how
Speaker 2: Jacob Munk played like ninety five percent of the snaps,
Speaker 2: the way he performed between center and guard. You know,
Speaker 2: it just you could tell the Packers, with the experience level,
Speaker 2: the talent level, once they got that train moving, there
Speaker 2: really wasn't anything Clayland was gonna be able to do
Speaker 2: to stop it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I like that you brought up those guys
Speaker 1: on the offensive line because that's where I was going
Speaker 1: to go next. I thought, for as much as things
Speaker 1: are still very much up in the air, there's not
Speaker 1: a whole lot of clarity in terms of the backup
Speaker 1: offensive tackle. You know, Andre Dillard, Kadem Telfort, Caleb Jones,
Speaker 1: they all played, and the coaches are evaluating all those snaps,
Speaker 1: and there's still two more preseason games to go to
Speaker 1: see how that sorts itself out. But man, when you
Speaker 1: look at what Sean Ryan did with his snaps at
Speaker 1: center in this game, you look at what Jacob Monk
Speaker 1: did the rookie out of Duke. You really have to
Speaker 1: like what the Packers appear to be, appear to be
Speaker 1: developing in terms of the reserves and possibly future options. However,
Speaker 1: you want to look at it at these interior positions
Speaker 1: on the offensive line, because because both of those guys,
Speaker 1: definitely I thought they were as as that number two
Speaker 1: offensive line, you know, as we've talked about settled in
Speaker 1: after you know, a couple of hiccups on that early
Speaker 1: short yard of sequence with Dylan. As that group settled in,
Speaker 1: I thought Ryan and Monk were kind of the anchors, yeah,
Speaker 1: you know in that group, in the way that they performed,
Speaker 1: the way they got after guys. You know, we saw
Speaker 1: both We saw both of them kind of leading the
Speaker 1: way on that on that toss sweep that was in
Speaker 1: the red zone where Emmanuel Wilson's making his way to
Speaker 1: the outside and you see these couple of big guys,
Speaker 1: you know, trying to clear some bodies out in space
Speaker 1: like that. I thought that was pretty impressive and I
Speaker 1: think I think it bodes well for what the Packers
Speaker 1: are developing depth wise on that interior.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I wrote about Sean Ryan this week about
Speaker 2: how you know, he played left tackle thirty one game
Speaker 2: starter at UCLA. He comes to Green Bay, he had
Speaker 2: to learn guard. That took a full season. He was
Speaker 2: away from the team a little bit. Comes back last
Speaker 2: year and he ends up in a rotation with John Runyon,
Speaker 2: who then goes and gets a ten million dollar a
Speaker 2: year contract with the New York Giants. Even still, he
Speaker 2: didn't come back this offseason thinking, Okay, I've just won
Speaker 2: my spot. I'm good. He knew he still had to
Speaker 2: compete competing to start at right guard, and he also
Speaker 2: understood that he needed to add center to his repertoire
Speaker 2: as well. The Packers I think pretty well established at
Speaker 2: this point in time. You got that top six, it's
Speaker 2: just going to be kind of a question now is
Speaker 2: it going to be Jordan Morgan, who's still dealing with
Speaker 2: the shoulder, or will it be Ryan at right guard? Yeah?
Speaker 2: Either way, Ryan gives you some versatility interior offensive line.
Speaker 2: That's only six guys, though you need eight on the
Speaker 2: game day roster in order to get that forty eight
Speaker 2: spot where.
Speaker 1: You're most likely going to have ten on your fifty
Speaker 1: three man roster. Yeah, it's all said and done.
Speaker 2: Somewhere in that area. So that's where it comes down to. Obviously,
Speaker 2: Jacob Munk being back, I thought he looked a lot
Speaker 2: more comfortable at guard. Certainly he played a lot of
Speaker 2: center at Duke, but you know, some of the snap
Speaker 2: stuff has been sort of a work in progress throughout camp.
Speaker 2: I thought him getting the reps at guard, you could
Speaker 2: just see that confidence building him throughout the game. And
Speaker 2: then obviously at the media availability with the assistant coaches
Speaker 2: on Monday, I think Luke Buckis probably had the line
Speaker 2: of the entire presser saying that.
Speaker 1: Well I put it in the headline on our posting
Speaker 1: on the website.
Speaker 2: But saying that, you know, he was ready to go
Speaker 2: out there and rip somebody's lips off, and and he
Speaker 2: played that way. So but the swing tackle thing is
Speaker 2: still very much up in the air with Caleb Jones
Speaker 2: and Kadeem Telford, obviously Andre Dillard the veteran, and then
Speaker 2: you know, trying to figure out who's going to come
Speaker 2: out through that. Travis Glover, the sixth round pick. Yukie's
Speaker 2: still in there as well for this thing. Royce Newman,
Speaker 2: veteran now in his fourth season, figuring out how those
Speaker 2: pieces are going to fit into this offensive line, are
Speaker 2: going to be critical for the Packers, and honestly, I'm very,
Speaker 2: very curious to see how all that ends up sorting
Speaker 2: itself out here the last two preseason games.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I want to talk some more about some of
Speaker 1: the individual standouts on offense for the Packers, but I
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Speaker 1: a little bit about A Wilson already. I don't think
Speaker 1: anybody was surprised at what he did against Cleveland. He
Speaker 1: came out in that preseason opener as an undrafted rookie
Speaker 1: last year in Cincinnati and kind of lit the world
Speaker 1: on fire. And Wilson ran just he runs hard. He did,
Speaker 1: he did what he always does, and I believe I
Speaker 1: saw a statistic that of his sixty seven rushing yards
Speaker 1: which were the which was the high for the game,
Speaker 1: fifty of those sixty seven were after contact, So that
Speaker 1: says something about about his style. But the other individual
Speaker 1: offensively that needs to be talked about here of courses
Speaker 1: wide receiver Grant Dubos. We had talked about him through
Speaker 1: the first you know, few weeks of camp. Is he
Speaker 1: going to be able to carry over what he's been
Speaker 1: doing on the practice field into the game. And lo
Speaker 1: and behold, he did five catches on six targets. I
Speaker 1: believe sixty six yards was the number and not to
Speaker 1: And it's not just the statistics. It was two really
Speaker 1: clutch catches in my opinion, that that made his night.
Speaker 1: One was on the fourth down on the right side
Speaker 1: boundary that makes the catch to keep the drive alive
Speaker 1: and keep the chains moving for the Packers. And then
Speaker 1: the other one was in the two minute drill which
Speaker 1: was actually a one minute drill at the end of
Speaker 1: the first half with backup quarterback Sean Clifford, where Clifford
Speaker 1: buys a little bit of time, shifts to his left
Speaker 1: in the pocket, and he spots to Bo's and he
Speaker 1: fires it right to the boundary and Dubo's does the
Speaker 1: catch with the tow drag twenty three yard game gets
Speaker 1: the Packers into field goal range to end the first
Speaker 1: half with a field goal. Grant Dubo's did what he
Speaker 1: needed to do in this very heated competition for you know,
Speaker 1: at the receiver position. Now, Grant Dubo's his next step
Speaker 1: is to do it again in Denver, Right, That's what
Speaker 1: everybody's going to be looking for. Is this is this
Speaker 1: game by Grant Dubo's just some kind of a one
Speaker 1: off or is he going to do this every game
Speaker 1: in the preseason and basically say to everybody here, I am.
Speaker 1: I deserve a spot on this team.
Speaker 2: One hundred percent. And the thing that's wild too, is
Speaker 2: he actually in some ways did that at the end
Speaker 2: of the preseason last year. It's just that he was
Speaker 2: missed three months with that back injury. Once he got
Speaker 2: back into games, he basically played those last two games
Speaker 2: cold and he still was catching passes. So for him
Speaker 2: to come out based again like what we're talking about
Speaker 2: with Evan Williams, to see du Bos make these plays
Speaker 2: in this game, This wasn't out of left field. He's
Speaker 2: been doing this.
Speaker 1: For those of us who have been at practice every day,
Speaker 1: and if you've been reading our coverage coverage of others
Speaker 1: who are on the beat, what Grand Dubos did, what
Speaker 1: Evan Williams did in this game was not a surprise
Speaker 1: to anybody who's been watching this and following along. They did,
Speaker 1: They did what was somewhat expected of them. You just
Speaker 1: didn't really know if it would happen in a game
Speaker 1: or not.
Speaker 2: The toe dragie catch, though, is extraordinary, and again just
Speaker 2: the body awareness, his ability to create separation, the fact
Speaker 2: that much I wrote in my story the game notes afterwards,
Speaker 2: I mean, he's kind of like the receiver version of Wilson,
Speaker 2: where it's just the guy makes plays and he's kind
Speaker 2: of sort of making himself undeniable at this point. And
Speaker 2: the real scary thing about this is Mike. You got
Speaker 2: to remember he was the third receiver the Packers drafted
Speaker 2: last year, after Jaden Reid. In Dantavian freaking Wicks, I mean,
Speaker 2: if Grant Dubo's I don't want to put the cart
Speaker 2: before the horse here. I mean, there's a lot of
Speaker 2: football left to be played and he needs to make
Speaker 2: this team. But the fact that the Packers appear to
Speaker 2: have three guys that all could play this game at
Speaker 2: a high level, and they drafted they got him all
Speaker 2: in the same draft doesn't always work out like that.
Speaker 2: That's pretty extraordinary.
Speaker 1: Well, on that tow drag catch as well, I thought
Speaker 1: it was a heck of a throw by Sean. It
Speaker 1: was yeah, you know, he put the ball right where
Speaker 1: he needed to put it, and the timing and everything
Speaker 1: with Dubos in terms of snagging with his hands and
Speaker 1: dragging the feet, that is just how you draw it up.
Speaker 1: And those are two guys who basically, you know, have
Speaker 1: only played in preseason games effectively to this point, I
Speaker 1: thought Sean Clifford performed well in this game. He's he
Speaker 1: seems to be. I don't want to I don't want
Speaker 1: to make this a grand generalization after you know, preseason
Speaker 1: game number one of just his second season in the league,
Speaker 1: but Sean Clifford seems to be one of these guys
Speaker 1: who performs better in games than he does in practice.
Speaker 1: And we've seen that here over the years, and it
Speaker 1: was it was discussed with with quarterbacks coach Tom Clements
Speaker 1: yesterday that there there is a little bit of of
Speaker 1: reminder of Matt Flynn, who was like that too. Matt
Speaker 1: Flynn never really impressed a whole lot. I'm not saying
Speaker 1: he was a bad practice player, but he wasn't. He
Speaker 1: was never really all that impressive on the practice field.
Speaker 1: But then you get you put Matt Flynn into a
Speaker 1: game and he goes out, he plays ball, he.
Speaker 2: Moves to the national champion.
Speaker 1: It's points on the what's that he's a national champion? Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's true, very true. And uh and Clifford just seems
Speaker 1: to be kinda, you know, cut from that same cloth,
Speaker 1: so to speak. So I thought I thought he performed well,
Speaker 1: can I add.
Speaker 2: One more thing? Tootely. I talked to Sean in the
Speaker 2: locker room afterwards. He didn't want any flowers, He wasn't
Speaker 2: looking for any bouquets. He still felt like there were
Speaker 2: some throws he missed in that game, some big splash
Speaker 2: play opportunities. What I thought was funny though, And he
Speaker 2: kind of let this slip a little. But he's like,
Speaker 2: if I could have done that, it might have been perfect.
Speaker 2: I mean, they're really I really think the guy was
Speaker 2: splitting hairs in terms of because he effectively drove the offense,
Speaker 2: and I think the most important thing with that three
Speaker 2: straight scoring drives to end his night. I know they
Speaker 2: wanted touchdowns. I know they didn't want to sell for
Speaker 2: thirty plus you know, yardfield goals. But again from what
Speaker 2: Sean had to deal with early in camp where he's
Speaker 2: running with the ones, he talked about how much faster
Speaker 2: that was going with them, and.
Speaker 1: He's and he's admitted to kind of pressing, yeah, to
Speaker 1: trying to push himself and and he was in he
Speaker 1: was in a difficult spot. It was a big opportunity,
Speaker 1: it wasn't going as well as he was hoping it
Speaker 1: would go. And and you know, he started to press
Speaker 1: because things started to build in terms of, you know,
Speaker 1: some of the struggles that were happening.
Speaker 2: So long story short, with all this just with him,
Speaker 2: you know, Michael Pratt, the snaps that he took later
Speaker 2: on Julian Hicks, Joel Wilson, I mean, there has been
Speaker 2: I think what was cool about this game, in addition
Speaker 2: to the fact that everybody the Packers had active played,
Speaker 2: the fact that so many guys, whether it's the Jordan
Speaker 2: Loves of the world, are the guys that are in
Speaker 2: the fourth quarter, you know, finishing this thing out. So
Speaker 2: many guys made plays for the Packers in this matchup.
Speaker 2: Curious to see who carries it on now going into Denver.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's the whole thing, whether you're talking whether
Speaker 1: you're talking about Grant Dubo's, whether you're talking about Julian Hicks,
Speaker 1: you know, even Evan Williams to that extent as a
Speaker 1: rookie who's still you know, figuring things out. What are
Speaker 1: they going to do now in the second preseason game,
Speaker 1: how do they build on it? And now this second
Speaker 1: preseason game will be preceded by a joint practice against
Speaker 1: again to Denver Broncos, so a whole different practice look
Speaker 1: on Friday out in Denver, within the game coming up
Speaker 1: on Sunday night. But we will talk more about that
Speaker 1: on our next show because we have to call it
Speaker 1: a rap on this edition of Packers Unscripted. Be sure
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