WEBVTT - Fiery (But Mostly Peaceful) with Julio Rosas 0:00:00.600 --> 0:00:05.360 So remember when CNN was reporting from Kenosha, Wisconsin, as 0:00:05.360 --> 0:00:08.319 the city was being burnt down after the shooting of 0:00:08.400 --> 0:00:11.280 Jacob Blake, who, by the way, it was a justified 0:00:11.320 --> 0:00:14.680 police shooting. But remember the chiron read fiery but mostly 0:00:14.760 --> 0:00:17.599 peaceful as buildings burnt in the background. 0:00:17.640 --> 0:00:19.599 We're going to talk to the author of. 0:00:19.560 --> 0:00:23.279 The book Fiery but mostly Peaceful about the breakdown of 0:00:23.400 --> 0:00:26.079 law and order in the country. He was at the 0:00:26.120 --> 0:00:29.920 front lines of these Antifa and Black Lives Matter riots. 0:00:29.920 --> 0:00:32.680 He followed them on the ground around the country. He's 0:00:32.720 --> 0:00:36.159 also been at the Southern border multiple times, reporting from 0:00:36.200 --> 0:00:38.280 there as well. And he's also a marine, so he 0:00:38.320 --> 0:00:41.000 has been on the front lines in multiple arenas. He 0:00:41.080 --> 0:00:45.400 recently testified before the House Homeland Security Committee. Listen to 0:00:45.400 --> 0:00:46.120 this exchange. 0:00:46.159 --> 0:00:49.239 You're trying to get us a gaslight us up here 0:00:49.280 --> 0:00:54.280 as if Antifa, which mister Rosas apparently the expert now 0:00:54.400 --> 0:01:02.320 in organized terrorist activity, has overruled the FBI director who 0:01:02.440 --> 0:01:05.280 says there's a headline says Antifa is an ideology, not 0:01:05.280 --> 0:01:07.840 an organization. No no, no, let's not listen to the 0:01:07.920 --> 0:01:13.120 FBI director. Let's listen to Sorry, what's your title, senior writer? 0:01:13.280 --> 0:01:16.080 At town Hall, who is going to tell us that 0:01:16.120 --> 0:01:17.720 the FBI director is wrong? 0:01:17.720 --> 0:01:19.560 And I'd like to induce. 0:01:19.800 --> 0:01:20.520 There's no question. 0:01:20.600 --> 0:01:23.479 I think it's funny to be lectured by an heir 0:01:23.600 --> 0:01:27.520 to the Levi Strauss corporation. And honestly, that's probably why 0:01:27.520 --> 0:01:30.440 he doesn't consider property damage to be that big of 0:01:30.440 --> 0:01:32.160 a deal, because not only does he have that, but 0:01:32.200 --> 0:01:35.400 he also has what some would describe an impossibly good 0:01:35.400 --> 0:01:38.480 stock portfolio. But what I can tell you is that 0:01:38.520 --> 0:01:42.360 in these riots that happened three years ago, they yes, 0:01:42.520 --> 0:01:45.600 big corporations did suffer damage in looting such as target 0:01:45.640 --> 0:01:48.960 that would happen in Minneapolis, but a lot of the businesses, 0:01:49.040 --> 0:01:52.520 they were small businesses. They didn't come from a multimillion 0:01:52.560 --> 0:01:55.000 dollar families or corporations. 0:01:55.160 --> 0:01:58.200 We'll talk a little bit about his experiences testifying before 0:01:58.240 --> 0:02:01.280 the committee about left wing violence in the country, and 0:02:01.360 --> 0:02:03.920 also just get his thoughts about the breakdown of law 0:02:03.960 --> 0:02:04.360 and order. 0:02:04.400 --> 0:02:06.280 Why is it happening, what has he seen. 0:02:06.520 --> 0:02:10.040 That's all from Julia roseas senior writer for town Hall 0:02:10.160 --> 0:02:19.560 and the author of Fiery but Mostly Peaceful. Stay with us, Julio, 0:02:19.639 --> 0:02:21.960 it's great to have you on my fellow Floridia and 0:02:22.000 --> 0:02:23.040 great to have you on the show. 0:02:23.320 --> 0:02:25.919 Yeah, no, it's it's a great time to be down 0:02:25.919 --> 0:02:26.440 in Florida. 0:02:26.560 --> 0:02:29.240 It is the life, isn't it. And you left you 0:02:29.280 --> 0:02:31.000 were in the DC area right before. 0:02:31.320 --> 0:02:35.360 Yes, for six years. I'd say four years too many. 0:02:35.520 --> 0:02:36.720 I bet you don't miss it at all. 0:02:37.360 --> 0:02:40.200 No, no, not one. Well, I miss some of the people. 0:02:40.480 --> 0:02:44.079 I will, but overall I'm good with not going back 0:02:44.080 --> 0:02:44.560 for a while. 0:02:44.800 --> 0:02:47.280 You're at the border currently, correct, Yes. 0:02:47.160 --> 0:02:51.799 Yes, I'm currently in the Del Rio sector. The one 0:02:51.800 --> 0:02:54.960 of the reasons why that I'm here is because I'm 0:02:54.960 --> 0:02:59.520 speaking of Florida. Governor run DeSantis sent additional law enforcement 0:02:59.520 --> 0:03:01.680 and military personnel to help out the state of Texas 0:03:01.720 --> 0:03:06.600 to address the still ongoing border crisis. And for this region, 0:03:07.800 --> 0:03:10.240 the big problem, and this has been a systemic problem 0:03:10.240 --> 0:03:12.839 down here are the godaways, right. So this is the 0:03:13.440 --> 0:03:18.280 little bit harder to see aspect of the crisis because 0:03:18.320 --> 0:03:23.080 these people aren't necessarily the families, the kids who are 0:03:23.400 --> 0:03:25.760 willingly giving themselves up to border patrol. They are the 0:03:25.800 --> 0:03:29.000 ones who are actively, for one reason or another, trying 0:03:29.040 --> 0:03:32.839 to avoid apprehension and to get into United States one 0:03:33.600 --> 0:03:37.240 and say one hundred percent illegal as opposed to trying 0:03:37.240 --> 0:03:39.320 to you know, with the families and stuff, trying to 0:03:39.360 --> 0:03:44.120 go through the sound court process. So that that's been 0:03:44.120 --> 0:03:47.080 a big issue here for a long time, with going 0:03:47.080 --> 0:03:49.920 through the ranches, going through the countryside, which brings a 0:03:49.920 --> 0:03:52.520 whole host of problems for both the migrants and the 0:03:53.000 --> 0:03:55.880 and the Americans who live down here. And so I 0:03:55.880 --> 0:03:58.120 think it's pretty This is the second time actually that 0:03:58.720 --> 0:04:03.640 Florida has sent law enforcement and military personnel to the border. 0:04:04.200 --> 0:04:06.040 The first time, I believe was in twenty twenty one, 0:04:06.680 --> 0:04:10.080 near kind of the beginning of everything. So with everything 0:04:10.120 --> 0:04:13.040 that's still going on with this, Texas as great as 0:04:13.040 --> 0:04:17.120 it is, it's just one state and certainly could use 0:04:17.160 --> 0:04:19.320 the help to address this. 0:04:19.839 --> 0:04:22.640 We were told that what Trump was doing on the 0:04:22.640 --> 0:04:26.640 border was inhumane, you know, basically border enforcement was inhumane. 0:04:26.760 --> 0:04:29.720 But what's happening now is not humane. You know, what 0:04:30.560 --> 0:04:33.400 is happening now with you know, encouraging the sexual assaults 0:04:33.440 --> 0:04:36.120 that happen along the way, the amount of people who die, 0:04:37.120 --> 0:04:40.200 and then also it's not humane for Americans when we're 0:04:40.240 --> 0:04:43.039 letting criminals into the country, terrorists into the country. 0:04:43.080 --> 0:04:45.200 I mean, nothing about this is humane. 0:04:45.040 --> 0:04:50.160 No, And that's why I always take, I guess exception 0:04:50.839 --> 0:04:54.560 to people who have criticized, especially you know, particularly people 0:04:54.560 --> 0:04:54.800 in the left. 0:04:54.800 --> 0:04:57.919 People have criticized my reporting is always fear mongering or 0:04:58.000 --> 0:05:01.240 oh it's you know, racist even, and to me, it's like, no, 0:05:01.400 --> 0:05:04.760 Like the reason why I just personally I am against 0:05:04.800 --> 0:05:10.200 the illegal immigration is because I've seen the effects of it, 0:05:10.240 --> 0:05:12.960 and it's not pretty. I mean, I've seen people almost 0:05:13.080 --> 0:05:17.520 drown in the Rio Grande near Eagle Path. I've seen 0:05:18.320 --> 0:05:20.359 I saw women almost die of heat stroke or in 0:05:20.480 --> 0:05:22.760 Uma Arizona. I mean it gets I mean, this is 0:05:22.920 --> 0:05:24.560 we're getting in to the summer, but it's ninety for 0:05:24.720 --> 0:05:30.000 degrees right now. So whenever you're trying to avoid detection 0:05:30.080 --> 0:05:32.039 and not traveling legally, you're going to put yourself in 0:05:32.040 --> 0:05:34.640 a precarious situation. And that's on top of like you 0:05:34.680 --> 0:05:38.200 mentioned the rapes, the sexual assaults that happened to the 0:05:38.640 --> 0:05:40.640 I mean it happens to the women, happens to the kids, 0:05:40.640 --> 0:05:43.800 and yeah, even sometimes the men because because they can. 0:05:43.920 --> 0:05:45.600 The cartel, I mean, the people who do this, they 0:05:45.640 --> 0:05:47.200 do it because they can't. I mean, it's kind of 0:05:47.279 --> 0:05:50.680 like the bonus for them on top of extorting them 0:05:51.600 --> 0:05:54.920 when I was in Alpaso for when Title forty two 0:05:55.720 --> 0:05:59.040 was going to expire. I went to a shelter and 0:05:59.200 --> 0:06:01.880 one of the director of communications or I'm sorry, director 0:06:01.880 --> 0:06:05.920 of marketing. She told me that about no less than 0:06:05.960 --> 0:06:08.920 eighty percent of the women who come to the shelter 0:06:09.960 --> 0:06:14.200 have been raped or sexually assaulted in some ways. One 0:06:14.279 --> 0:06:15.920 of the first things that a lot of them ask 0:06:16.279 --> 0:06:20.800 when they get there is for pregnancy tests, so it's 0:06:20.960 --> 0:06:26.160 it's and then the kids get separation anxiety. It takes 0:06:26.200 --> 0:06:29.200 like three or four days. I mean the kids come 0:06:29.240 --> 0:06:32.760 in shell shocked essentially. I mean they just kind of 0:06:33.200 --> 0:06:35.360 keep to themselves, and it takes three or four days 0:06:35.400 --> 0:06:37.799 for them to kind of acclimate to a safe environment 0:06:37.839 --> 0:06:39.880 and then it kind of start going back to start 0:06:39.920 --> 0:06:44.720 acting normally. So I mean, yeah, it's none of it 0:06:44.760 --> 0:06:48.919 has been humane, and it never illegal immigration ever will be. 0:06:49.000 --> 0:06:53.039 And so for the US government to have incentivized illegal 0:06:53.080 --> 0:06:56.800 immigration under this administration is just absolutely disgusting just from 0:06:56.800 --> 0:07:00.280 a humanitarian perspective. And sure, yes, a lot of these 0:07:00.279 --> 0:07:03.840 people have now who I've gotten in since twenty twenty one, Yeah, 0:07:03.839 --> 0:07:06.960 they might be living better lives, and that's that's a 0:07:06.960 --> 0:07:09.920 big GIF the cost that they had to pay for 0:07:09.960 --> 0:07:13.680 that is very is very high, and I just don't 0:07:13.720 --> 0:07:16.520 think that that's the way that a Christian should be done, 0:07:17.680 --> 0:07:20.560 you know, from from a just a human perspective. 0:07:20.800 --> 0:07:22.680 Well, and of course it's you know, not fair for 0:07:22.760 --> 0:07:26.600 Americans either of having to deal with an an influx 0:07:26.800 --> 0:07:30.440 of people. You know, it's not fair for them when 0:07:30.480 --> 0:07:32.520 we already are having so many problems here in the 0:07:32.600 --> 0:07:34.840 United States. You had mentioned the key word the Biden 0:07:34.840 --> 0:07:39.680 administration incentivizing this. Why do you think the Biden administration 0:07:39.800 --> 0:07:40.800 is incentivizing this? 0:07:42.080 --> 0:07:45.880 I think so one, it's just to be the anti 0:07:45.920 --> 0:07:48.600 Trump person, right, I mean, that's what he campaigned on. 0:07:48.720 --> 0:07:50.480 He said, you know, we're not going to build one 0:07:50.520 --> 0:07:51.960 more We're not going to build one more foot of 0:07:51.960 --> 0:07:53.800 the wall. We're going to try it. We're going to 0:07:53.880 --> 0:07:56.440 halt deportations for one hundred days. We're going to give 0:07:56.600 --> 0:08:00.240 everyone for your health care and everything. So it was 0:08:00.280 --> 0:08:04.080 I think it was just the classic reflexive response to 0:08:04.200 --> 0:08:06.120 just try just be the opposite of Trump. It doesn't 0:08:06.160 --> 0:08:09.360 matter what it is, it just whatever he was doing, 0:08:09.440 --> 0:08:11.360 just go the opposite because that's what the voters want. 0:08:12.640 --> 0:08:15.560 But that's but then you know, they have access to 0:08:15.600 --> 0:08:17.720 all this intelligence. They have access to all of this 0:08:18.000 --> 0:08:21.160 things that are much more stuff that we even we 0:08:21.200 --> 0:08:23.880 don't know at a reporting level. Right, they have all 0:08:23.920 --> 0:08:26.960 the human sources intelligence, they have all the assets and everything. 0:08:27.000 --> 0:08:31.040 So they're they're acutely aware that this isn't the right 0:08:31.080 --> 0:08:33.280 way for people to be coming to the United States 0:08:33.320 --> 0:08:36.280 in terms of again like what happens to them and so, 0:08:37.320 --> 0:08:39.559 but and yet and yet they still went ahead and 0:08:40.080 --> 0:08:42.000 you know, try to say, well, Republicans are the ones 0:08:42.120 --> 0:08:44.160 that are to blame for this. It's still Trump's fault, 0:08:44.160 --> 0:08:46.559 which is just absolutely insane, like to hear them say that. 0:08:47.559 --> 0:08:50.640 And so but they're doing it because they see a 0:08:50.679 --> 0:08:54.880 political benefit, right They they see the risk of having 0:08:54.960 --> 0:08:58.160 the Homeland Security secretary being impeached, They see the you know, 0:08:58.200 --> 0:08:59.960 the I mean, this has been one of the worst 0:09:00.600 --> 0:09:04.760 polling issues Biden has pulled at its border and immigration 0:09:05.360 --> 0:09:08.240 since since he's been in office. It's been one of 0:09:08.240 --> 0:09:10.760 his worst. I mean, the economy is still kind of 0:09:10.800 --> 0:09:13.240 number one because obviously that affects everybody, doesn't matter if 0:09:13.240 --> 0:09:15.400 you're an a border say or not. But so, so 0:09:15.440 --> 0:09:18.760 they're willing to weather this because they see a political benefit. 0:09:18.800 --> 0:09:21.439 What that political benefit is, I mean, you kind of 0:09:21.440 --> 0:09:23.480 have carefully to bring it up, but they think that 0:09:23.520 --> 0:09:27.199 there's a new voting block here because if they can 0:09:27.200 --> 0:09:29.600 fast track all these people and give them asylum and 0:09:29.600 --> 0:09:32.839 then give them citizenship, then maybe, you know, because because 0:09:32.880 --> 0:09:34.680 outside of that, I don't, I don't know what the 0:09:34.720 --> 0:09:38.720 answer is, right because again, they they know how bad 0:09:38.720 --> 0:09:40.440 it is, and yet there's they still want to move 0:09:40.440 --> 0:09:42.600 ahead and do it. And so of course with the politics, 0:09:42.640 --> 0:09:44.920 it's all about not getting elected and it's all about 0:09:44.960 --> 0:09:47.120 keeping that power. So that's for me, that's the only 0:09:47.280 --> 0:09:50.520 logical explanation and that and maybe you know, maybe bribery, 0:09:50.600 --> 0:09:52.200 but I don't have evidence for that, so I'm not 0:09:52.200 --> 0:09:55.360 going to list that as a reason, but just logically 0:09:55.440 --> 0:09:57.240 that that's the only thing that I can really. 0:09:57.160 --> 0:09:59.120 Come up with that makes sense. 0:09:59.200 --> 0:10:02.040 And of course it's cruel for border patrol agents because 0:10:02.200 --> 0:10:04.880 you know, we're putting them in an impossible situation. So 0:10:04.880 --> 0:10:06.720 it's sad for them and their families as well. 0:10:06.960 --> 0:10:11.400 And that's one thing that I mean, I've spoken to 0:10:11.440 --> 0:10:13.240 a lot of border patrol agents since this all started, 0:10:13.320 --> 0:10:17.320 and they they it's similar to I mean, just law 0:10:17.360 --> 0:10:19.640 enforcement in general in this country has just taken such 0:10:19.640 --> 0:10:23.200 a brutal beating these past three years. With the border, 0:10:23.200 --> 0:10:25.600 it's obviously a different reason, but it's still the same. 0:10:26.040 --> 0:10:27.760 It's still the same end where you have a lot 0:10:27.760 --> 0:10:32.200 of agents leaving. We had the most suicides within Customs 0:10:32.240 --> 0:10:36.040 and Border Protection last year then since two thousand and nine, 0:10:36.040 --> 0:10:39.400 I think I think it was fourteen, if I'm remembering correctly. 0:10:42.280 --> 0:10:45.400 So they're just demoralized because they they're not able to 0:10:45.480 --> 0:10:47.679 fully do their job. And so, you know, a lot 0:10:47.679 --> 0:10:50.360 of these guys have worked under multiple administrations. A lot 0:10:50.360 --> 0:10:53.880 of these guys know what works right, and so when 0:10:53.920 --> 0:10:57.680 you when they are unable to do that, of course, 0:10:57.800 --> 0:11:00.040 of course they're going to be demoralized. And so so 0:11:01.120 --> 0:11:04.880 that's that's why we've had so many leaks come from 0:11:05.280 --> 0:11:08.160 Borbitual because they're so frustrated and they can't really speak 0:11:08.160 --> 0:11:09.760 out publicly, and so they talk to guys like me 0:11:09.920 --> 0:11:15.079 b millusion Ali Bradley because they are seeing this every 0:11:15.080 --> 0:11:17.400 single day and they want to get the message out 0:11:17.440 --> 0:11:18.280 to the rest of the country. 0:11:18.400 --> 0:11:20.959 Well, and you've covered a lot of these big law 0:11:21.040 --> 0:11:23.920 enforcement issues which have been you know, really at the 0:11:23.920 --> 0:11:26.600 forefront of the country, whether it's at the border, which 0:11:26.679 --> 0:11:29.400 you know you're there now, or it's these riots that 0:11:29.559 --> 0:11:32.160 you know you covered in the summer of twenty twenty. 0:11:32.280 --> 0:11:34.520 You've covered a lot of these big issues for town hall, 0:11:34.600 --> 0:11:37.920 and you recently testified before Congress. They believe it is 0:11:37.960 --> 0:11:41.400 the Homeland Security Committee. You know, talk about that hearing, 0:11:41.720 --> 0:11:44.320 the purpose of it, and what your message was that day. 0:11:44.600 --> 0:11:48.280 The hearing was basically to highlight the fact that, yes, 0:11:48.360 --> 0:11:51.280 there's been violence portrated from people in the far right, 0:11:51.320 --> 0:11:54.559 but there has been also plenty of violence being perpetrated 0:11:55.320 --> 0:12:00.360 on the far left. And it was to talk about, look, 0:12:00.400 --> 0:12:02.760 this is what has been happening in the country. And 0:12:03.200 --> 0:12:06.920 what I said is that, you know, if things don't change, 0:12:07.440 --> 0:12:10.920 I think if the judicial system and law enforcement agencies 0:12:10.960 --> 0:12:13.360 are not looking at the far left like they have 0:12:13.440 --> 0:12:16.240 been looking at the far right, and to them, far 0:12:16.360 --> 0:12:19.480 right has been parents at school board meetings and like 0:12:19.520 --> 0:12:23.320 actually peaceful pro life protesters, right, if they're not actually 0:12:23.360 --> 0:12:27.600 trying to take down these these Antifa cells, these you know, 0:12:27.720 --> 0:12:31.840 agitating cells that were that I that I saw in 0:12:31.960 --> 0:12:35.760 action three years ago, things like the twenty twenty four 0:12:35.840 --> 0:12:39.920 presidential election outcome, because like let's say President Trump wins again. 0:12:40.200 --> 0:12:42.760 I mean, I expect to be as busy, if not 0:12:42.880 --> 0:12:47.760 more busy, covering that those type of events again, just 0:12:47.760 --> 0:12:49.680 like I was. I was busy in twenty twenty and 0:12:49.720 --> 0:12:52.920 so that was my message. My message was I saw 0:12:53.280 --> 0:12:55.560 a lot of violence in twenty twenty and a little 0:12:55.559 --> 0:12:59.880 bit into twenty twenty one, being front by people who 0:12:59.880 --> 0:13:04.400 were or Black Lives Matter ANTIFA types, and it's a 0:13:04.440 --> 0:13:09.600 big problem and it can happen again. And so when when, 0:13:09.679 --> 0:13:16.199 I mean even today, uh, Congresswoman Jayapaul from Washington today 0:13:16.280 --> 0:13:19.800 with the whole debt ceiling negotiation, she said that if 0:13:20.040 --> 0:13:23.920 if the Biden administration agrees to spending cuts, there's gonna 0:13:23.920 --> 0:13:27.719 be backlash in the streets. Now, I don't really I 0:13:27.760 --> 0:13:30.400 don't really expect that because I don't think that, you know, 0:13:30.440 --> 0:13:32.120 when it comes to debt ceiling, and you know, I 0:13:32.160 --> 0:13:33.520 don't think a lot of people are gonna be so 0:13:33.760 --> 0:13:35.800 up and arms about that. Maybe I don't know who knows, 0:13:36.040 --> 0:13:39.000 but the fact that she's able to say that and 0:13:39.200 --> 0:13:41.440 does not really think that that would be like an 0:13:41.520 --> 0:13:43.400 incitement of violence, because I mean, if Trump said that, 0:13:43.440 --> 0:13:46.280 it be it would be a complete meltdown, right, you know, 0:13:46.280 --> 0:13:47.920 if I don't get my way, there's there's gonna be 0:13:48.000 --> 0:13:51.679 backlash in the streets. So but so the left constantly 0:13:51.720 --> 0:13:53.480 is able to get away with it because of the 0:13:53.520 --> 0:13:57.640 lopsidedness of anarcho tyranny that I mean, it's just insane 0:13:57.679 --> 0:14:01.160 to see it play out in the country since twenty twenty. 0:14:01.360 --> 0:14:05.880 But it's a big problem, and there's I don't know 0:14:05.920 --> 0:14:08.920 how many different ways to say it other than antifas real. 0:14:09.240 --> 0:14:12.679 They were violent and they can be violent again. 0:14:12.600 --> 0:14:15.559 When you wrote a book about it, fiery but mostly peaceful. 0:14:15.640 --> 0:14:18.440 The twenty twenty riots and the gas lighting of America 0:14:18.559 --> 0:14:22.240 obviously off of you know that CNN, the infamous CNN 0:14:23.400 --> 0:14:27.400 report with the chiron reading fiery but mostly peaceful. As 0:14:27.800 --> 0:14:30.680 you know, a building was engulfed in flames behind the reporter, 0:14:31.000 --> 0:14:33.960 just the outright lying to us that the media did 0:14:34.320 --> 0:14:38.440 what actually happened, which it's a beautiful name, that's just perfect, 0:14:38.520 --> 0:14:42.840 but what actually happened from what you saw. Obviously the 0:14:42.880 --> 0:14:45.400 media didn't give us or the mainstream media didn't give 0:14:45.480 --> 0:14:46.040 us the story. 0:14:46.400 --> 0:14:48.840 Yeah, you know, CNN's not great, but they gave him 0:14:48.880 --> 0:14:50.440 the title of my books. So I can't. It can't 0:14:50.440 --> 0:14:52.200 be too harsh on them. I suppose no. 0:14:52.760 --> 0:14:55.160 But I mean, so thank you CNN for that one, 0:14:55.640 --> 0:14:56.080 the one. 0:14:55.960 --> 0:14:58.680 Helpful thing they did, so I think. So that was 0:14:58.720 --> 0:15:03.600 in Kenosha. That was in Knosh, and I really I 0:15:03.640 --> 0:15:06.320 feel so bad for Kenosha. It's it's a it's your 0:15:06.400 --> 0:15:10.920 typical blue collar Midwestern town that has been forgotten with 0:15:11.080 --> 0:15:13.720 this you know, globalization of the economy. So they're already 0:15:13.760 --> 0:15:17.560 kind of down on their luck in some ways. They 0:15:18.800 --> 0:15:22.640 the whole riot was started over this this police shooting 0:15:22.640 --> 0:15:25.240 by Jacob Blake and there was a seven to ten 0:15:25.280 --> 0:15:28.400 second video that went viral, you know, him getting shot 0:15:28.400 --> 0:15:30.240 in the back seven times. And I mean, and so 0:15:30.400 --> 0:15:33.560 we're already, you know, fresh off at George Floyd. There's 0:15:33.600 --> 0:15:36.400 been the more riots that have happened. I mean, Portland 0:15:37.200 --> 0:15:39.600 was kind of the place to be. I mean, I 0:15:39.640 --> 0:15:43.000 was there in July covering those rights at the Federal courthouse, 0:15:43.440 --> 0:15:47.840 and so this was now August and this happens, and 0:15:47.880 --> 0:15:49.880 the video just spreads like wildfire. And I was still 0:15:49.920 --> 0:15:52.080 in DC and so right away I saw that video 0:15:52.320 --> 0:15:54.920 on Sunday evening and I emailed my boss at the 0:15:54.960 --> 0:15:57.720 town hall. I said, hey, we need I need to 0:15:57.760 --> 0:16:01.560 get there. This is a small town between Milwaukee and Chicago. 0:16:02.040 --> 0:16:03.800 They are not going to be ready for what's coming. 0:16:04.120 --> 0:16:06.280 And on behold of that, very night, things got out 0:16:06.280 --> 0:16:09.960 of control. And so the reason and it stayed out 0:16:10.000 --> 0:16:11.440 of control for the next few days. And then of 0:16:11.440 --> 0:16:14.080 course the whole Kyle written house situation was born out 0:16:14.120 --> 0:16:17.040 of that chaos and and and so the reason why 0:16:17.280 --> 0:16:20.640 I like to talk about Kenosha a lot and then 0:16:20.640 --> 0:16:22.360 and then you know, the scene A Kiron was from 0:16:22.520 --> 0:16:29.080 was from Kenosha is because that riot happened because of 0:16:29.120 --> 0:16:33.600 a justified police action. This wasn't just that these weren't 0:16:33.640 --> 0:16:36.560 just cops spreading around and saying, oh, let's just shoot 0:16:36.560 --> 0:16:39.120 this black guy that we just randomly see. No, it 0:16:39.320 --> 0:16:42.920 was the mother of the children who were in the 0:16:42.960 --> 0:16:46.000 backseat of the suv had called the police because he 0:16:46.440 --> 0:16:49.280 was violating the restraining order she had out against him, 0:16:49.360 --> 0:16:53.480 or protective order they had out against him for sexual assault. Uh, 0:16:54.200 --> 0:16:58.040 he was in the process of kidnapping her kids, taking 0:16:58.080 --> 0:17:00.760 away her kids, and he was on with a knife. 0:17:01.440 --> 0:17:03.240 And so but of course you know that that took 0:17:03.280 --> 0:17:06.840 time to figure out. But in that time, fifty at 0:17:06.920 --> 0:17:10.040 least fifty million dollars of damage was done. Some businesses 0:17:10.119 --> 0:17:13.680 were closed primarily, others relocated out of where they were destroyed. 0:17:13.960 --> 0:17:16.320 And then, like I said, you know, the whole Kyle 0:17:16.400 --> 0:17:19.639 Rittenhouse situation was born. And yeah, he shot in self defense, 0:17:19.640 --> 0:17:21.399 but I mean that was just like another kind of 0:17:21.440 --> 0:17:24.399 splinter off that caused you know, another big, great debate 0:17:25.200 --> 0:17:27.920 in the country. And so I'm not saying it could 0:17:27.960 --> 0:17:31.359 have been totally avoided, but it's just that because of 0:17:31.400 --> 0:17:33.720 the environment that we were in where just constant we're 0:17:33.920 --> 0:17:36.600 just going to react first and find out later, a 0:17:36.640 --> 0:17:40.040 lot of bad things can happen. And so when you 0:17:40.040 --> 0:17:43.159 look at the broader picture of you know, when we 0:17:43.160 --> 0:17:45.640 talk about January sixth, and people like to view those 0:17:45.640 --> 0:17:48.080 two two separate things, and they are because you know, 0:17:48.119 --> 0:17:51.080 they happened differently in different ways, but they were still 0:17:51.080 --> 0:17:54.520 the same. It was still the same tangent. Because people 0:17:54.800 --> 0:17:58.080 who wanted to be violent that day saw how people 0:17:58.119 --> 0:18:01.199 on the left were violent for months on end with 0:18:01.320 --> 0:18:04.480 very little repercussions. So of course they're and I'm not 0:18:04.520 --> 0:18:07.439 defending them, but I'm just saying that their logic was, well, 0:18:07.480 --> 0:18:09.960 if they can do it, so can we. And so 0:18:10.080 --> 0:18:14.680 that's why it's dangerous to allow lawlessness to be pervasive 0:18:14.720 --> 0:18:17.560 for so long, because it's not going to always be 0:18:17.680 --> 0:18:20.600 just one side doing it. Obviously, the left was the 0:18:20.640 --> 0:18:24.920 predominant one for twenty twenty, but then January sixth happened, 0:18:24.960 --> 0:18:27.119 and then of course now that's where democrats, that's the 0:18:27.119 --> 0:18:31.400 only thing they want to talk about. But it's this 0:18:31.520 --> 0:18:36.280 kind of it's just this escalation that has now kind 0:18:36.280 --> 0:18:41.119 of simmered. But in my time since then covering crime 0:18:41.200 --> 0:18:44.440 and place like Chicago and in Philadelphia and all these 0:18:44.480 --> 0:18:49.159 other places, the anger is still very palpable, and the 0:18:50.080 --> 0:18:53.480 chaos is it's a low intensity chaos, but people's quality 0:18:53.480 --> 0:18:57.160 of life are still largely are still very much affected 0:18:57.240 --> 0:19:00.719 by what happened three years ago. Because now police forces 0:19:00.760 --> 0:19:05.879 are chronically understaffed, the criminal element, the regular criminal element, 0:19:06.040 --> 0:19:09.280 is more emboldened than ever. I mean, it's insane what 0:19:09.440 --> 0:19:11.720 people are able to just get away with. And it's 0:19:11.720 --> 0:19:14.760 because just this it's just like this apathy. It's a 0:19:14.800 --> 0:19:19.280 small laize that has infected so many of our cities 0:19:19.560 --> 0:19:22.080 where now where all it takes is like in Chicago 0:19:22.080 --> 0:19:24.359 a few weeks ago, all it takes is it to 0:19:24.359 --> 0:19:27.880 be a nice, warm spring day for people to just 0:19:28.000 --> 0:19:30.720 go crazy and have a riot in the heart of 0:19:30.720 --> 0:19:33.120 the downtown. I'm from the Chicago area, I mean the Loop. 0:19:33.200 --> 0:19:35.680 The Loop is historically was always the safest place, and 0:19:35.720 --> 0:19:40.560 now that's no longer the case. So it's all connected 0:19:40.800 --> 0:19:43.520 and we're still dealing with the effects, and we will 0:19:43.520 --> 0:19:46.200 continue to deal with the effects until major changes are made. 0:19:46.280 --> 0:19:48.439 I just don't I just don't see that happening. 0:19:48.520 --> 0:19:50.159 Quick commercial break more with Julio. 0:19:53.840 --> 0:19:57.439 We've reached this point where the left has come to 0:19:57.480 --> 0:20:00.560 the conclusion that you know, you had mentioned a blake 0:20:00.600 --> 0:20:03.280 and ad justified police shooting. We've reached this point where 0:20:04.160 --> 0:20:07.960 to the left, in their eyes, criminals are victims. And 0:20:08.000 --> 0:20:11.440 then if you dare to defend yourself like Daniel Penny did, 0:20:11.720 --> 0:20:15.680 he's the criminal. How did we get here in this 0:20:15.840 --> 0:20:17.560 you know, upside down scenario. 0:20:17.920 --> 0:20:22.040 We got here partly because I mean, the left is 0:20:22.160 --> 0:20:28.200 very good at using the the racism label, because I mean, look, 0:20:28.240 --> 0:20:30.000 I mean from from the time I was little, right, 0:20:30.280 --> 0:20:32.880 we were taught to not be racist, and because obviously 0:20:32.960 --> 0:20:36.760 you know, there's no there's no reason to and so 0:20:37.760 --> 0:20:41.199 but but the problem is that that's been weaponized, and so 0:20:41.320 --> 0:20:47.800 right with with Daniel Penny in that whole case, there's 0:20:47.960 --> 0:20:52.320 there's no there was no indication for racism to have 0:20:52.359 --> 0:20:54.639 played a part in that, and there still isn't. And 0:20:54.720 --> 0:20:58.680 yet it has been used again by the same hustlers 0:20:58.760 --> 0:21:02.560 race hustlers as another example of oh, even though this 0:21:02.760 --> 0:21:05.160 wasn't a cop, you know, this was still a white 0:21:05.200 --> 0:21:07.800 guy taking down a black guy for no reason, which 0:21:07.800 --> 0:21:09.520 of course that's that's not the case at all, and 0:21:09.600 --> 0:21:11.919 you know, the video that was taken shows that, and 0:21:11.960 --> 0:21:14.960 the eyewitnesses say that's not what happened. And also the 0:21:14.960 --> 0:21:16.919 fact that it wasn't just Daniel Penny, it was two 0:21:16.960 --> 0:21:21.560 other people, one of them was black who was restraining neely. 0:21:21.800 --> 0:21:29.040 So we we got here because it's kind of the 0:21:29.040 --> 0:21:33.960 the ultimate culmination of things like critical race theory and 0:21:34.200 --> 0:21:38.560