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Speaker 2: If he knows that he's this close to his homeland,

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Speaker 2: that would be crushing for him. Rodney mcclod is going

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Speaker 3: Oh, it's beautiful. It's a beautiful thing.

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Speaker 5: That's right.

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Speaker 4: It is glorious to be here on the east Side.

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Speaker 4: We wish we are coming off a big Browns win.

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Speaker 4: But you know what negative town right away? I was

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Speaker 4: gonna just a negative town.

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Speaker 3: Acknowledge it. Just move on. We're on week three, Bring

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Speaker 3: on the run. Week four.

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Speaker 2: We're on the week four, brother, I guess we are

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Speaker 2: Remember week one? I acted like didn't exist. That was

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Speaker 2: a preseason game. So open the season down in Jacksonville

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Speaker 2: two one on one, head into Vegas. That's the plan.

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Speaker 2: We are off today, UH, and then starting tomorrow will

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Speaker 2: begin preparations for our date out in Las Vegas against

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Speaker 2: the Raiders. We had a double header on the Monday

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Speaker 2: night side of things last night, not a traditional Monday

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Speaker 2: I don't know how I would have felt if, like,

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Speaker 2: great and it's in Buffalo. They are playing great.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and they just absolutely dismantled the Jags, which when

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Speaker 4: know that Josh Allen was under pressure at any point

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Speaker 4: I found that to be a little bit scary. Number Two,

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Speaker 4: Josh Allen is spectacular. Everything just seemed easy, it really did.

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Speaker 2: They they treated it reminded me of like a college

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Speaker 3: I have some statistical stuff.

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Speaker 2: So I look forward to the one stat that's gonna

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Speaker 2: blow everybody's mind. Yes, But in terms of if there

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Speaker 4: Yes, And you know, I think what we saw in

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Speaker 4: in their own right with their only loss being against

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Speaker 4: a very good Buffalo Bills team. But I'm with you.

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Speaker 2: This was a guy who, when he was drafted on

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Speaker 2: He's a can't miss folks. It's so hard to draft quarterbacks.

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Speaker 2: There's so many things that have to factor into it.

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Speaker 2: We're into a rookie who's made it look very easy

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Speaker 4: Man eight straight starts. They were eight and crazy and

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Speaker 4: they are now one and eight in their last nine games. Yes,

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Speaker 4: it is crazy. When he throws the ball looks so

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Speaker 4: just over four thousand yards, twenty touchdowns.

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Speaker 2: Always double digit picks. Though memory serves, I don't have

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Speaker 4: Front of the year that he got that he was

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Speaker 4: But yes, generally speaking, you are one hundred percent on

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Speaker 4: the money and it just had There have never been

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Speaker 3: Coreer quarterback eighty four, which is yeah, strange, is strange,

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Speaker 2: So that gets us to the game that impacts us

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Speaker 2: more directly, and that is the Cincinnati Bengals are Owen three.

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Speaker 2: There are four teams who have made the Super Bowl

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Speaker 3: After starting oh and three right Houston in eighteen. So

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Speaker 2: Look you and I talked about We talked about their

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Speaker 2: issues in the secondary. They have issues up front there,

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Speaker 2: the way that they started the game with the borough

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Speaker 2: we go and then they had no resistance at all

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Speaker 2: to Jaden Daniels, who had maybe the best Cormans ever

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Speaker 3: Uh, you're on a short list? Are you ready for

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Speaker 3: a stat? Is this the one?

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Speaker 3: Give I have not you have not seen it. So

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Speaker 3: this is about Jayden Daniels.

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Speaker 4: So I'm gonna remind people that they scored every drive

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Speaker 4: in this game against the Bengals. Yep, they are other

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Speaker 4: than the downs, other than neil downs. Same same in

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Speaker 4: the game against the Giants. It was seven drive, seven

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Speaker 4: field goals, and one kneel down. This is crazy. Jaden

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Speaker 4: Daniels now has had two career NFL games where his

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Speaker 4: team scored on every drive excluding kneel downs. Three starts

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Speaker 4: in the National Football Two of his three starts, Tom Brady,

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Speaker 4: Drew Brees, Peyton Manning and Patrick Mahomes have combined to

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Speaker 4: have two such games in their entire careers, including the playoffs.

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Speaker 4: That's one thousand and ninety four combined starts. I'm gonna

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Speaker 4: say that again. Tom Brady, Drew Brees Pay, Patrick Mahons

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Speaker 4: Janie Daniels has now done it in weeks in games

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Speaker 3: And I got to tell you something when you're playing

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Speaker 4: Robinson's Eckler still has some juice. Clearly there are They're

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Speaker 3: It was in Jeff Blake. Yes, Jeff absolute leave.

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Speaker 4: They leave the screen vertically and then they dropped straight down.

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Speaker 2: Well yeah, there's so here's the deal there now zero

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Speaker 5: Yep.

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Speaker 3: It was over. It was over.

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Speaker 2: That one doesn't count in the in the fifteen and

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Speaker 5: Yep.

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Speaker 2: Their first eight to ten games are very, very winnable

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Speaker 4: They've got either their final Their first nine are good, yeah,

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Speaker 4: always been true that the NFL.

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Speaker 4: Know and probably the strangest thing at all from a

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Speaker 4: scores perspective or you know, from those who are allowed

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Speaker 4: to actually place wagers on the National Football League is

446
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Speaker 4: typically your first four weeks are when you.

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Speaker 3: Can get the books. There's no question.

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Speaker 4: And this year, I I would have to imagine the

449
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Speaker 4: books are doing very very well because it's just been

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Speaker 4: so off the charge. I guarantee, guarantee. There were multiple

451
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Speaker 4: millions and millions of teasers that had Tampa Bay just

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Speaker 4: to win outright as part of a teaser, had there's

453
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Speaker 4: no the Niners to win outright as part of a teaser.

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Speaker 4: They had the Browns to win outright as a part

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Speaker 4: of teaser that had the Bengals to win outright. Is

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Speaker 4: just a part of a teaser, just that easy, there's

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Speaker 4: no doubt. So you're getting even the rain every angle. Raiders,

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Speaker 4: for sure, You're like Raiders. Maybe they lose by one

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Speaker 4: on a fluke, but they're not losing by two.

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Speaker 2: for after further review and for that we turn it

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Speaker 2: over to Duc Diza.

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Speaker 4: All Right, I wish that this were a more joyous

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Speaker 4: after further review, they well we got Also we dove

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Speaker 4: in the tape, so I watched it for the second

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Speaker 4: time this morning. All right, and here are just some

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Speaker 4: of my kind of after further review findings. We'll start

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Speaker 4: on the offense.

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Speaker 3: After further review there it is there it is did

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Speaker 3: we go one, two three or did we do three

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Speaker 3: two one? Last time?

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Speaker 2: I'm always I always go one, two three, unless I'm

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Speaker 2: counting down to something and then i go three two one.

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Speaker 4: So I'll treat my one as the three. So my

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Speaker 4: first one is the lack of the ground game. The

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Speaker 4: Browns are near the bottom of the league in designed

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Speaker 4: runs for running backs. In this game, you had exactly

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Speaker 4: twelve designed runs for running backs, and part of the

517
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Speaker 4: problem is the Browns are not getting down the field.

518
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Speaker 4: Jerome Ford took contact on average zero point four yards.

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Speaker 3: Down the field.

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Speaker 4: That means he's basically being contacted at the line of

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Speaker 4: scrimmage on his runs. You cannot have a successful running

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Speaker 4: game in the league unless you're getting a yard and

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Speaker 4: a half to two yards down the field on average

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Speaker 4: before you're taking contact. So of his thirty seven rushing

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Speaker 4: yards on ten carries, thirty three yards came after contact.

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Speaker 4: So on some level, the Browns have got to do

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Speaker 4: a better job of incorporating.

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Speaker 3: The ground game.

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Speaker 4: And I thought the one game in which they did that,

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Speaker 4: you had twenty one running back runs for one hundred

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Speaker 4: and six yards, was it's Jacksonville.

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Speaker 3: Guess what. You won the game.

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Speaker 4: And it's not like you were running to salt Away

534
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Speaker 4: that game and that skewed your running stats. That's not

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Speaker 4: how that game played out. The Browns have got to

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Speaker 4: do a better job blocking the run. They've got to

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Speaker 4: do a better job being committed to designed runs to

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Speaker 4: the running backs. You cannot be one dimensional when you

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Speaker 4: are having the struggles that you were having, which leads

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Speaker 4: me into point number two. After further review, I'm just

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Speaker 4: gonna give you again this is we all kind of

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Speaker 4: can anecdotally talk about things, right. What's going on with

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Speaker 4: the offensive line? Why are we struggling? Why have we

544
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Speaker 4: given up the most pressures in the NFL. Why have

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Speaker 4: you given up the most sacks in the NFL? Why

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Speaker 4: have you given up the most quarterback hits in the NFL.

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Speaker 4: That's all anecdotal you turn on the tape and you

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Speaker 4: see we have problems, problems handling the blitz, problems picking

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Speaker 4: up twists and stunts. We have guys that are getting

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Speaker 4: beat quickly. I'm talking quick beats where it's just a

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Speaker 4: complete almost with on the line. And then there are

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Speaker 4: sacks that are coming from either coverage or the quarterback

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Speaker 4: holding the ball too long. But this is just from

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Speaker 4: Pro Football Focus. I'm gonna go, I'm gonna give for

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Speaker 4: each guy, I'm gonna say where they were in twenty three, okay,

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Speaker 4: and where they've been so far.

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Speaker 2: In twenty offensive line grades.

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Speaker 4: This is their pass blocking grade and ranked from Pro

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Speaker 4: Football Focus and their pressures. In twenty twenty three, Joel

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Speaker 4: Batonio was the number twelve pass blocking.

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Speaker 3: Guard out of fifty four.

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Speaker 4: He had a pass blocking grade of seventy one and

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Speaker 4: he allowed on the season, which was an anomaly for

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Speaker 4: him very high thirty five pressures. In twenty twenty four,

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Speaker 4: Joel Batonio's pass block and grade is forty six point

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Speaker 4: one that ranks fifty fourth out of sixty three guards.

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Speaker 4: He has allowed eleven pressures that is second most among

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Speaker 4: all guards. So eleven pressures in three games let's call

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Speaker 4: it for a game four times seventeen.

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Speaker 5: You do that.

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Speaker 3: Quickly, that's sixty eight pressures.

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Speaker 4: That's almost he's on pace to almost double what he

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Speaker 4: gave up last year. Center Ethan Posk. Last year seventy

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Speaker 4: two point five pass black and grade, he was the

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Speaker 4: number five center in the league out of thirty two.

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Speaker 4: He allowed just nineteen pressures all season. This year, Ethan

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Speaker 4: Poseik forty three point one pass black and grade. He

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Speaker 4: is twenty ninth out of thirty two centers. And again

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Speaker 4: I said he allowed nineteen pressures all season last year.

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Speaker 4: He has allowed fourteen pressures this year through three games.

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Speaker 4: That is the most of any center. In fact, the

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Speaker 4: number two and number three centers in the league have

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Speaker 4: allowed to combine eighteen, so only four more than him.

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Speaker 4: That's the second and third highest in the league. He is,

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Speaker 4: I mean, that's insane, yeh. Wyatt Teller last year was

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Speaker 4: number twenty out of fifty four. He allowed twenty pressures

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Speaker 4: on the season, sixty seven point three. He's kind of

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Speaker 4: been the closest to the same. Wyatt Teller sixty three

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Speaker 4: point six this year thirty fifth out of sixty three

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Speaker 4: six pressures allowed. Dwan Jones last year was a number

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Speaker 4: twenty three tackle at by the end of the season

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Speaker 4: seventy three grade. This year he is forty six out

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Speaker 4: of sixty two with a sixty two rating and seven

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Speaker 4: pressures loud. To be fair, he was top eight in

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Speaker 4: pass blocking after Week two. So this past week was

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Speaker 4: he was injured and it was a bad, bad week

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Speaker 4: for him, and that bore itself out. And then you

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Speaker 4: have James Hudson, and if you could say anything, you'd

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Speaker 4: say he's consistent.

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Speaker 3: Yep.

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Speaker 4: Last year he was seventy third out of eighty five

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Speaker 4: with a forty eight point four pass blocking grade, thirty

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Speaker 4: six pressures. This year he is sixty out of sixty

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Speaker 4: two tackles in the NFL so far with a forty

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Speaker 4: two pass blocking grade, eleventh pressures. That's the fourth most.

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Speaker 4: And he didn't even start the last game. So you've

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Speaker 4: got Joel Botonio is a bottom ten guard right now,

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Speaker 4: Ethan Possik's a bottom three center, James Hudson's a bottom

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Speaker 4: three tackle so and the postic Botonio ones are the

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Speaker 4: ones that are absolute shockers. Just I mean, you talked

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Speaker 4: about going from twelfth to fifty fourth, from fifth to

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Speaker 4: twenty ninth. Those are absolute shockers that you've got. Buttonio

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Speaker 4: given up the second most pressures among guards post. It's

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Speaker 4: given up the most of any center in the league,

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Speaker 4: and in fact, he's given up the most of any

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Speaker 4: offensive line because there's a tackle that's given up thirteen.

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Speaker 3: But that's it. How do you break down?

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Speaker 5: Okay?

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Speaker 3: So okay? Why then? Right is the follow up?

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Speaker 5: Why? Okay?

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Speaker 3: It's not as simple as at Bill Callahan. That's not

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna give you.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna give you some things and you tell me

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Speaker 2: the percentages that you want to give them. Change of scheme, Okay,

625
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Speaker 2: we went we were a Shanahan scheme. Okay, wide zone scheme,

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Speaker 2: offensive line coach change, philosophical change, lack of I mean

627
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Speaker 2: we were a run first team last year. We play

628
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Speaker 2: actioned off of it. We would bludgeon you with Chubb

629
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Speaker 2: and even when Nick went out, we would hit you

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Speaker 2: with the other guys yep, and then we would throw

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Speaker 2: off of it. So it gets the defense on its heels.

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Speaker 2: So how much of it's that, and then how much

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Speaker 2: of it is they forgot how to debt, they forgot

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Speaker 2: how to pass block, or they've gotten old, or they whatever.

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Speaker 2: So you got four things, how do you what? And

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Speaker 2: I know I'm asking you to guess because you don't know,

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Speaker 2: there's no right answers.

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Speaker 4: I'm gonna say, but what what is the breakdown? I'm

639
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Speaker 4: gonna say all of those things contribute, scheme change.

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Speaker 3: Minimal.

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Speaker 4: I'm gonna I'm gonna just put a I'll put a

642
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Speaker 4: ten percent on that. Lack of past blocking practice I

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Speaker 4: would call because it's not how we've operated in the past.

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Speaker 4: That's very low. I put like five percent on that,

645
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Speaker 4: just because of what we've known of Bill Callahan. I'll

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Speaker 4: give that. You know, we'll call it thirty five percent, okay,

647
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Speaker 4: and then decline And just like bad play, just getting beaten.

648
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Speaker 3: Is to me is fifty percent of it.

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Speaker 2: If that is true, then this is gonna be a

650
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Speaker 2: long season. Well it feels that way right now. You

651
00:30:51,440 --> 00:30:53,880
Speaker 2: can't get that stuff. You're not gonna get you're not

652
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Speaker 2: gonna anti age, you're not gonna get healthy as the

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Speaker 2: season goes along. This is who you are. You're as

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Speaker 2: healthy as you're gonna be.

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Speaker 4: But I don't know is if Callahan, ultimately, over the

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Speaker 4: course of a season, would be able to reduce the

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Speaker 4: impact of some of these declines in terms of performance

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Speaker 4: and productivity, because he would then say, Okay, well since

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Speaker 4: we can't do this, we're gonna do this.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And I don't know the answer to that.

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Speaker 4: I'll tell you what right now, just based on the tape,

662
00:31:19,320 --> 00:31:21,600
Speaker 4: and it's very limited, but Nick Harris should start at

663
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Speaker 4: center this week.

664
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll be interested to talk to when Kevin talks

665
00:31:25,240 --> 00:31:27,680
Speaker 2: on Wednesday. I mean he will say that Wednesday. You

666
00:31:27,720 --> 00:31:29,960
Speaker 2: won't know that until probably you probably won't know that.

667
00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:31,640
Speaker 3: Ever, I don't know that they'll do it.

668
00:31:31,640 --> 00:31:34,400
Speaker 4: There's monetary reasons not to do it, but the fact

669
00:31:34,400 --> 00:31:38,080
Speaker 4: of the matter is that that is a change that

670
00:31:38,160 --> 00:31:38,840
Speaker 4: should be made.

671
00:31:38,920 --> 00:31:39,160
Speaker 3: Now.

672
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Speaker 4: Do you even have enough tackles so that it wouldn't

673
00:31:42,040 --> 00:31:44,360
Speaker 4: be Harris at center, post it at guard, center at guard,

674
00:31:44,360 --> 00:31:46,960
Speaker 4: but Tonio at tackle. That's the other question because I

675
00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:49,760
Speaker 4: think right now, with why Teller being out, obviously he

676
00:31:49,760 --> 00:31:51,520
Speaker 4: would be in your best line. But your best line

677
00:31:51,600 --> 00:31:55,720
Speaker 4: right now is probably Nick Harris at center, Buttonio left guard,

678
00:31:56,120 --> 00:31:58,600
Speaker 4: Zac's Iner at right guard. And then you figure out

679
00:31:58,600 --> 00:32:02,640
Speaker 4: whatever you can do at teackle. If Dewan's able to move,

680
00:32:02,680 --> 00:32:05,240
Speaker 4: he's your best tackle. Dewan was not able to move

681
00:32:05,360 --> 00:32:07,200
Speaker 4: in that game against the Giants. I mean, it was

682
00:32:07,240 --> 00:32:10,160
Speaker 4: the worst performance of his NFL career, and you could

683
00:32:10,160 --> 00:32:13,480
Speaker 4: see he was he was nowhere near who he is.

684
00:32:13,520 --> 00:32:15,800
Speaker 4: The guy's giving up seven pressures on the season. He

685
00:32:15,880 --> 00:32:18,200
Speaker 4: gave up five of them. Again, dude, this game against Giants,

686
00:32:18,200 --> 00:32:20,000
Speaker 4: he couldn't you and I talked about this on Monday.

687
00:32:20,120 --> 00:32:22,000
Speaker 4: He was not going to play in the second hand.

688
00:32:22,040 --> 00:32:23,680
Speaker 3: No, they took it out because he was because he

689
00:32:23,720 --> 00:32:24,040
Speaker 3: was hurt.

690
00:32:24,160 --> 00:32:26,360
Speaker 2: He was hurt, he wasn't right, he was hurt, and

691
00:32:26,440 --> 00:32:28,080
Speaker 2: so he was not going to play in the second half.

692
00:32:28,080 --> 00:32:29,960
Speaker 2: But then all of a sudden, everybody got hurt and

693
00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:31,680
Speaker 2: he had to go out there. And I tip my

694
00:32:31,760 --> 00:32:33,600
Speaker 2: hat to him, like he battled. And I actually thought,

695
00:32:33,800 --> 00:32:35,280
Speaker 2: by the time you get the fourth quarters play the

696
00:32:35,320 --> 00:32:37,840
Speaker 2: most competent our offensive line was the whole game. Yes,

697
00:32:38,040 --> 00:32:39,840
Speaker 2: with that mass unit that was in there at the end,

698
00:32:39,880 --> 00:32:42,640
Speaker 2: and that was but Tonio left tackle and Posik and

699
00:32:42,760 --> 00:32:46,480
Speaker 2: Harris and and then it would have been Harrison.

700
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Speaker 4: Harris didn't give up a pressure. Ziner only gave up

701
00:32:49,560 --> 00:32:52,400
Speaker 4: one pressure. But Tonio actually played better at tackle than

702
00:32:52,440 --> 00:32:56,240
Speaker 4: he did at guard, which is crazy, but yes, you're right,

703
00:32:56,280 --> 00:32:58,880
Speaker 4: that's that's where they did play their best. So that's

704
00:32:59,520 --> 00:33:01,760
Speaker 4: that's just kind of I was doing that this morning

705
00:33:01,760 --> 00:33:03,720
Speaker 4: watching the tape and I'm like, I wonder, I know

706
00:33:03,760 --> 00:33:05,520
Speaker 4: what my eyes are saying, but let's go to somebody

707
00:33:05,520 --> 00:33:08,640
Speaker 4: who they do this, you know, and just whether it's

708
00:33:09,160 --> 00:33:11,920
Speaker 4: one hundred percent actor or not. Directionally, it paints a

709
00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:14,600
Speaker 4: very clear picture of the struggles that are happening right

710
00:33:14,600 --> 00:33:15,560
Speaker 4: now for the Cleveland Browns.

711
00:33:15,560 --> 00:33:20,520
Speaker 3: All right, number one on offense after further review, I.

712
00:33:20,400 --> 00:33:22,840
Speaker 4: Think the other big issue in the past game that

713
00:33:22,920 --> 00:33:27,640
Speaker 4: is leading to inefficiency, that is leading to missed opportunity,

714
00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:31,000
Speaker 4: and that is leading in some cases to sacks. And

715
00:33:31,040 --> 00:33:33,440
Speaker 4: I would even argue that this is true on the

716
00:33:33,480 --> 00:33:36,800
Speaker 4: sack strip fumble that directly led to a touchdown at

717
00:33:36,840 --> 00:33:38,600
Speaker 4: the end of the first half of the Giants.

718
00:33:40,640 --> 00:33:41,120
Speaker 3: Timing.

719
00:33:41,720 --> 00:33:46,640
Speaker 4: Deshaun Watson is not throwing the ball on time. And

720
00:33:46,680 --> 00:33:49,320
Speaker 4: when you watch some of the routes we ran against

721
00:33:49,360 --> 00:33:52,000
Speaker 4: Cover four, what beats cover fo what beats cover three?

722
00:33:52,400 --> 00:33:57,480
Speaker 4: Deep curls. You're the quarterback, you know they're stopping. You

723
00:33:57,600 --> 00:33:59,640
Speaker 4: know where they're stopping. You work on these things all

724
00:33:59,640 --> 00:34:01,520
Speaker 4: the time. This is the exact depth that you stopped

725
00:34:01,560 --> 00:34:04,160
Speaker 4: this is where he turned around for deep digs and

726
00:34:04,400 --> 00:34:06,880
Speaker 4: or deep curls I'm sorry to be completed. In the

727
00:34:06,960 --> 00:34:10,080
Speaker 4: National Football League, I'm talking ten plus yards. The ball

728
00:34:10,160 --> 00:34:13,640
Speaker 4: has got to be thrown either at the plant time

729
00:34:13,680 --> 00:34:15,520
Speaker 4: of the plant foot or before that, so that when

730
00:34:15,600 --> 00:34:17,960
Speaker 4: he turns and comes out of the curl, the ball's

731
00:34:17,960 --> 00:34:21,160
Speaker 4: on the way and it's boom, it's there. He is

732
00:34:21,280 --> 00:34:25,240
Speaker 4: waiting and batting the ball to throw those deep curls

733
00:34:25,760 --> 00:34:27,560
Speaker 4: until they've already come out of the curl and they're

734
00:34:27,600 --> 00:34:30,879
Speaker 4: standing there. That doesn't work, no. And on the one

735
00:34:30,920 --> 00:34:34,120
Speaker 4: that came around Thanos sex stra at fumble, Jerry Judy's

736
00:34:34,160 --> 00:34:36,000
Speaker 4: wide open on the curl, he throws that ball with

737
00:34:36,080 --> 00:34:39,800
Speaker 4: anticipation and it's not even anticipation, it's just the knowledge

738
00:34:40,320 --> 00:34:42,919
Speaker 4: that this is the route my guy's running. That would

739
00:34:42,960 --> 00:34:45,759
Speaker 4: have been a completion and instead it was a turnover.

740
00:34:46,080 --> 00:34:48,880
Speaker 4: And so that's happening as well. There are multiple plays

741
00:34:48,920 --> 00:34:51,399
Speaker 4: also where he held the ball so long that by

742
00:34:51,440 --> 00:34:54,280
Speaker 4: the time he delivered it, even for a completion underneath,

743
00:34:54,560 --> 00:34:58,080
Speaker 4: he allowed the defense to get there and eliminate the

744
00:34:58,200 --> 00:35:01,799
Speaker 4: yack on that play, So the timing of when the

745
00:35:01,840 --> 00:35:04,600
Speaker 4: ball comes out has been bad. And of course so

746
00:35:04,680 --> 00:35:06,880
Speaker 4: much is being made of you know, the fourth and

747
00:35:06,920 --> 00:35:08,880
Speaker 4: one and it frankly, he blew that it was a

748
00:35:08,880 --> 00:35:10,840
Speaker 4: man coverage. They told you it was a man coverage.

749
00:35:10,960 --> 00:35:12,880
Speaker 4: You have a pick and all you're really reading is

750
00:35:12,880 --> 00:35:15,520
Speaker 4: the inside guy. If the inside guy undercuts the pick

751
00:35:15,560 --> 00:35:17,200
Speaker 4: and you can't throw that, you know you've got the

752
00:35:17,280 --> 00:35:18,120
Speaker 4: leverage on the slant.

753
00:35:18,200 --> 00:35:19,960
Speaker 3: If not, you're throwing it outside.

754
00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:22,040
Speaker 4: And now we ran that exact same concept on the

755
00:35:22,080 --> 00:35:24,799
Speaker 4: touchdown drive earlier in the fourth quarter, and on that

756
00:35:24,880 --> 00:35:27,080
Speaker 4: one it was the slant that was opened. So I

757
00:35:27,120 --> 00:35:29,880
Speaker 4: think there's also some pre to going on by Deshaun

758
00:35:29,920 --> 00:35:31,600
Speaker 4: Watson of what he wants to do with the football

759
00:35:31,840 --> 00:35:34,400
Speaker 4: and on that because that same combo yielded the slant

760
00:35:34,440 --> 00:35:37,320
Speaker 4: last time. The problem was different coverage. This time, corner

761
00:35:37,400 --> 00:35:40,520
Speaker 4: was down instead of off, and so that created the collision.

762
00:35:40,640 --> 00:35:42,279
Speaker 4: You've got to see that that's a natural pick. And

763
00:35:42,280 --> 00:35:43,920
Speaker 4: by the way, it could have been a twenty yard game.

764
00:35:44,200 --> 00:35:45,960
Speaker 4: It wasn't just a that wasn't just a first down.

765
00:35:46,280 --> 00:35:49,880
Speaker 4: That was gonna be a big gain. So timing rhythm,

766
00:35:50,239 --> 00:35:53,719
Speaker 4: predetermination and then not ripping the ball when you need

767
00:35:53,760 --> 00:35:56,319
Speaker 4: to when you hit the top of your drop. You've

768
00:35:56,360 --> 00:35:58,160
Speaker 4: got to throw the ball, especially when you know what's

769
00:35:58,160 --> 00:35:59,560
Speaker 4: going on around you right now.

770
00:35:59,520 --> 00:36:01,440
Speaker 3: Is not at the level that needs to be. The

771
00:36:01,480 --> 00:36:02,719
Speaker 3: ball has got to be out.

772
00:36:02,760 --> 00:36:05,080
Speaker 4: So if you're throwing those deep comebacks, the ball's got

773
00:36:05,080 --> 00:36:07,239
Speaker 4: to be out before they're already turned around like this.

774
00:36:07,920 --> 00:36:08,600
Speaker 3: If you're not.

775
00:36:08,719 --> 00:36:11,319
Speaker 2: Folks, if you're looking for an example of somebody who

776
00:36:11,360 --> 00:36:15,040
Speaker 2: is doing this in adverse situations as adversus ours, it's

777
00:36:15,040 --> 00:36:18,440
Speaker 2: Matt Stafford. Matt Stafford with the Rams is doing what

778
00:36:18,480 --> 00:36:21,319
Speaker 2: you just said. They've got similar issues up front. Their

779
00:36:21,320 --> 00:36:24,400
Speaker 2: whole offensive line is bad, they're out their top two receivers.

780
00:36:24,600 --> 00:36:26,600
Speaker 2: But what he's doing is is he's getting the sucker

781
00:36:26,640 --> 00:36:29,160
Speaker 2: out quick. It's hitting guys as they turn, and those

782
00:36:29,200 --> 00:36:30,240
Speaker 2: things are being a success.

783
00:36:30,400 --> 00:36:30,680
Speaker 5: All right.

784
00:36:30,719 --> 00:36:32,839
Speaker 4: So that's the offense that was a little more comprehensive

785
00:36:32,880 --> 00:36:35,080
Speaker 4: than perhaps time was allotted for here.

786
00:36:35,120 --> 00:36:36,280
Speaker 3: But I think they are safe.

787
00:36:36,560 --> 00:36:36,880
Speaker 5: Safe.

788
00:36:36,920 --> 00:36:39,400
Speaker 4: They're important things to discuss and to know. And the

789
00:36:39,480 --> 00:36:41,200
Speaker 4: question is going to be from the Browns what can

790
00:36:41,239 --> 00:36:44,560
Speaker 4: you do about it? How can you implore your quarterback

791
00:36:44,640 --> 00:36:47,440
Speaker 4: to throw at the anticipation that is needed, and then

792
00:36:47,480 --> 00:36:49,720
Speaker 4: how do you get this offensive line to perform better

793
00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:51,520
Speaker 4: than it has so far this season.

794
00:36:51,880 --> 00:36:54,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, this is a quick week.

795
00:36:55,000 --> 00:36:58,240
Speaker 2: You fly on Friday, You're you're going out west to Vegas,

796
00:36:59,400 --> 00:37:01,440
Speaker 2: a team that would just embarrass on their home field

797
00:37:01,440 --> 00:37:03,960
Speaker 2: by Andy Dalton and the Panthers. Uh, this is a

798
00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:06,680
Speaker 2: game that you have the better roster. So how did

799
00:37:06,760 --> 00:37:10,200
Speaker 2: last week? Did last week too? And I think watch Dallas.

800
00:37:11,120 --> 00:37:13,919
Speaker 2: You've had the better roster. So the question is what

801
00:37:14,040 --> 00:37:16,240
Speaker 2: can you This is where we are with this team.

802
00:37:16,360 --> 00:37:18,319
Speaker 2: They're they're big picture things that you got to get

803
00:37:18,320 --> 00:37:19,799
Speaker 2: fixed if you want to do the ultimate goal.

804
00:37:20,160 --> 00:37:22,560
Speaker 3: We're just right now in win a damn game.

805
00:37:22,880 --> 00:37:23,120
Speaker 5: Yep.

806
00:37:23,160 --> 00:37:24,480
Speaker 3: We gotta find a way to win a game.

807
00:37:24,719 --> 00:37:27,600
Speaker 2: So what's the shortest, straightest path to that. That's Kevin

808
00:37:27,600 --> 00:37:30,040
Speaker 2: Stefanska's job this week. How do we win?

809
00:37:30,120 --> 00:37:32,560
Speaker 3: I don't care if we win seven to two. Just win.

810
00:37:33,239 --> 00:37:36,359
Speaker 2: That's all that matters this week. Just win, baby, and

811
00:37:36,400 --> 00:37:38,280
Speaker 2: that's it it is. It is certainly appropriate.

812
00:37:38,280 --> 00:37:38,839
Speaker 3: All right, good job?

813
00:37:39,000 --> 00:37:39,080
Speaker 5: Right?

814
00:37:39,200 --> 00:37:40,799
Speaker 3: Do we want a defensive time?

815
00:37:41,040 --> 00:37:41,239
Speaker 5: Yeah?

816
00:37:41,480 --> 00:37:42,520
Speaker 3: No, what do you think?

817
00:37:42,520 --> 00:37:44,200
Speaker 5: Give me? All right?

818
00:37:44,320 --> 00:37:46,319
Speaker 3: Couple couple on the defensive all right, real quick?

819
00:37:47,719 --> 00:37:53,040
Speaker 4: Miles Garretts Miles Garrett on two bum Wheels had nine

820
00:37:53,080 --> 00:37:55,640
Speaker 4: pressures in this game, eight of them against Andrew Thomas.

821
00:37:55,719 --> 00:37:57,920
Speaker 4: That's the most pressures in a game Andrew Thomas has

822
00:37:58,000 --> 00:38:00,839
Speaker 4: given up by double. He'd never given up more than

823
00:38:00,880 --> 00:38:02,760
Speaker 4: four in a game. So Miles Garrett was still spectacular.

824
00:38:02,880 --> 00:38:07,319
Speaker 4: Jordan Hicks was still spectacular. The pick quickly was a

825
00:38:07,440 --> 00:38:10,320
Speaker 4: very good play the pals. Garrett had the best PFF

826
00:38:10,360 --> 00:38:12,680
Speaker 4: grade of the week by the way on defense. Jane

827
00:38:12,719 --> 00:38:16,239
Speaker 4: Daniels on offense, could job give a take, don't lie.

828
00:38:16,360 --> 00:38:20,040
Speaker 4: I mean, those were both pretty apparent. On the pick,

829
00:38:20,120 --> 00:38:23,520
Speaker 4: it was a great zone blitz and such a great

830
00:38:23,520 --> 00:38:26,680
Speaker 4: play on that. It's a shame that that was wiped out.

831
00:38:26,680 --> 00:38:29,520
Speaker 4: But the biggest thing that stood out to me on defense,

832
00:38:29,560 --> 00:38:31,160
Speaker 4: and you were there, I don't know if it stood

833
00:38:31,160 --> 00:38:33,759
Speaker 4: out to you when you were watching it. Miss tackles.

834
00:38:34,239 --> 00:38:38,160
Speaker 4: Browns missed eleven tackles in this game. They had missed

835
00:38:38,200 --> 00:38:44,200
Speaker 4: fifteen total in the first two games combined, eleven missed tackles.

836
00:38:44,520 --> 00:38:48,040
Speaker 4: They have got to tackle better than that if they

837
00:38:48,080 --> 00:38:50,520
Speaker 4: want to win. And then, finally, the one bonus after

838
00:38:50,600 --> 00:38:51,960
Speaker 4: further review for special teams.

839
00:38:52,680 --> 00:38:54,400
Speaker 3: After further review.

840
00:38:55,080 --> 00:38:57,480
Speaker 4: Great performance by our special teams saved for the missfield

841
00:38:57,520 --> 00:38:59,920
Speaker 4: goal by Hopkins. But you gotta love the way that

842
00:39:00,200 --> 00:39:04,439
Speaker 4: Winston Reid gets called up against the Jags produces a fumble. Yep,

843
00:39:04,600 --> 00:39:07,760
Speaker 4: Tony Brown gets called up this week against the Giants

844
00:39:07,960 --> 00:39:11,320
Speaker 4: produces a fumble. This special teams unit is actually playing

845
00:39:11,400 --> 00:39:15,759
Speaker 4: pretty well. We've had two bad plays. The punt return

846
00:39:15,800 --> 00:39:18,960
Speaker 4: touchdown week one obviously bad on many, many, many levels,

847
00:39:19,280 --> 00:39:20,920
Speaker 4: and then you had the missed field goal. But I

848
00:39:20,920 --> 00:39:22,960
Speaker 4: think that Corey Borks was great. But our coverage teams

849
00:39:22,960 --> 00:39:25,200
Speaker 4: were excellent in this game against the Giants.

850
00:39:25,239 --> 00:39:26,960
Speaker 2: I'm putting you on the spot here. How many of

851
00:39:26,960 --> 00:39:30,840
Speaker 2: the mistackles in your mind happened in the screen game?

852
00:39:31,960 --> 00:39:34,160
Speaker 4: Many and the big culprits were the guys that you

853
00:39:34,200 --> 00:39:36,280
Speaker 4: would expect in that type of screen game and stuff

854
00:39:36,280 --> 00:39:36,800
Speaker 4: to the edges.

855
00:39:36,840 --> 00:39:38,680
Speaker 3: It was it was Greg Newsom, and.

856
00:39:38,600 --> 00:39:41,239
Speaker 4: It was Jka Joka had He's still had a good game,

857
00:39:41,280 --> 00:39:44,439
Speaker 4: but he definitely mistackles that you are not accustomed to seeing.

858
00:39:44,520 --> 00:39:47,000
Speaker 4: Jeremia Wusu Koromo miss and I would even say that

859
00:39:47,960 --> 00:39:50,760
Speaker 4: one of his mistackles was so massive in the outcome

860
00:39:50,800 --> 00:39:53,839
Speaker 4: of the game. We were up seven to nothing. We

861
00:39:54,280 --> 00:39:56,360
Speaker 4: should have been had the interception didn't work out. We

862
00:39:56,440 --> 00:39:57,320
Speaker 4: pin them back.

863
00:39:57,600 --> 00:39:57,880
Speaker 5: Yep.

864
00:39:58,280 --> 00:40:00,600
Speaker 3: They are run on first down, their second and eleven.

865
00:40:01,120 --> 00:40:03,759
Speaker 4: On second down, they throw a swing pass out to

866
00:40:03,800 --> 00:40:05,160
Speaker 4: Singletary j Oka's got.

867
00:40:05,120 --> 00:40:08,040
Speaker 3: Him one on one line misses it. They end up

868
00:40:08,080 --> 00:40:08,960
Speaker 3: getting ten yards.

869
00:40:08,960 --> 00:40:11,720
Speaker 4: They then convert the first of their two thirteen plus

870
00:40:11,760 --> 00:40:13,880
Speaker 4: play eighty plus yard touchdown drives.

871
00:40:14,160 --> 00:40:14,440
Speaker 5: Yeah.

872
00:40:14,719 --> 00:40:18,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, if it could go wrong, it did that. That's

873
00:40:18,840 --> 00:40:20,279
Speaker 2: kind of the way that it all sorted out.

874
00:40:20,520 --> 00:40:20,839
Speaker 3: All right.

875
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876
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877
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Speaker 2: is tied in Jordan Nakens.

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Speaker 7: And Jordan, you know Deshaun better than every but anybody

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Speaker 7: on this team.

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Speaker 5: I would guess, how do you think he's He's a

904
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Speaker 5: processing this slow start?

905
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Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean it's nothing that he's not used to.

906
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Speaker 8: Back in Houston, we started real slow. I remember, I

907
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Speaker 8: think it's nineteen eighteen and nineteen. We started out one

908
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Speaker 8: to three, flipped it around and one eleven straight. So

909
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Speaker 8: we just got to make some adjustments you know, we

910
00:42:05,080 --> 00:42:08,120
Speaker 8: got to keep him positive and you know, just hopefully,

911
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Speaker 8: you know, he makes some big ton plays for us.

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Speaker 6: Did you think he is positive or is this kind

913
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Speaker 6: of weighing on him?

914
00:42:15,040 --> 00:42:16,680
Speaker 9: For the most part, he's definitely positive.

915
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Speaker 8: You know, we definitely speak couraging to him every day,

916
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Speaker 8: and you know, we work with him on the field

917
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Speaker 8: every day, and you know he's bouncing them off the

918
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Speaker 8: field things as well, so you know, I mean in

919
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Speaker 8: his mental space. You know, as far as I can see,

920
00:42:29,520 --> 00:42:33,960
Speaker 8: he's he's looking very you know, like Deshaun. But you know,

921
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Speaker 8: we all got to do all part.

922
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Speaker 9: It's just not on him.

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Speaker 7: Hey, Jordan, when you go back and watch your film,

924
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Speaker 7: what did you what stood out to you about the

925
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Speaker 7: protection issues that you guys said.

926
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Speaker 9: Yesterday we just didn't execute. That's the entire offense, man.

927
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Speaker 8: You know, it was a lot of it was a

928
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Speaker 8: lot of stunts, a lot of games that kind of

929
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Speaker 8: threw threw off the our track and you know, across

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Speaker 8: a couple of people up you know, they got the

931
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Speaker 8: mismatches that they wanted and they set it at the

932
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Speaker 8: end of the day. Excuse me, but you know, we're

933
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Speaker 8: looking forward to flipping around and being you know, positive

934
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Speaker 8: and just coming back and we come a team that

935
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Speaker 8: we know we can be.

936
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Speaker 7: Were you guys caught off guard? Deshaun mentioned it after

937
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Speaker 7: the game a little bit yesterday that they blitzed as

938
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Speaker 7: much as they did.

939
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Speaker 9: They definitely come out like smoking man.

940
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Speaker 8: They was blessing left and right, left and right, and

941
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Speaker 8: you know, once they see that they were successful in it,

942
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Speaker 8: they you know, they picked it up.

943
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Speaker 9: A little bit.

944
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Speaker 8: So you know, we just we just had to make

945
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Speaker 8: some adjustments and you know, we just can do a

946
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Speaker 8: better job and executing.

947
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Speaker 6: Hey, Jordan, just like along the lines of the protection stuff,

948
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Speaker 6: like obviously knowing this week coming up, you guys have

949
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Speaker 6: another tough assignment with Max Crosby especially. I mean, I

950
00:43:40,760 --> 00:43:43,040
Speaker 6: know he's a little banged up right now too, but

951
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Speaker 6: just how imperative is it to fix these protection issues

952
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Speaker 6: as quickly as you guys can. So Deshaun's not getting sacked,

953
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Speaker 6: you know, eight times and hit an additional seventeen.

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Speaker 9: Very good.

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Speaker 8: I mean the game starts with Olan. I mean, especially

956
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Speaker 8: on the offense. You know, we got to get hands

957
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Speaker 8: on people. We got to push a lot of scrimmage,

958
00:44:01,080 --> 00:44:03,440
Speaker 8: get positive yards, not just in the passing game, but

959
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Speaker 8: then the running game as well.

960
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Speaker 9: We have to establish the run game before we can

961
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Speaker 9: go to the passing game.

962
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Speaker 8: So we just we should got to go back to

963
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Speaker 8: the drawing boards and you know, work harder on the

964
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Speaker 8: field that practice and come together and hold each other accountable.

965
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Speaker 8: That's what it's all about. It's just about stand together,

966
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Speaker 8: especially in times like this. Don't divide the team.

967
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Speaker 9: Just come together, uplift each other and let's get back

968
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Speaker 9: to work.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I guess how do you think you guys can respond? Like,

970
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Speaker 6: knowing up there there's still some injury question marks that

971
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Speaker 6: seems like and all that. Like it's obviously coming off

972
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Speaker 6: of a tough loss to what do you think the

973
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Speaker 6: response is going to be like from you guys.

974
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Speaker 8: I mean, in our room, we have I'm talking as

975
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Speaker 8: a whole offense. We have, you know, great players, great talent,

976
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Speaker 8: first ring all the way down, so you know his

977
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Speaker 8: next man mentality, Like I say, anybody, anybody kind of

978
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Speaker 8: step up there.

979
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Speaker 9: We got to prep them.

980
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Speaker 8: We got to get them ready for the game and

981
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Speaker 8: you know, just play with confidence and you know, being

982
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Speaker 8: able to trust your both to left and right that

983
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Speaker 8: they're gonna get the job done. So the D four

984
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Speaker 8: can't get that ball off or you know, we can

985
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Speaker 8: break big runs and influence the game as much as possible.

986
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Speaker 10: Jordan on the fourth down play that that you guys

987
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Speaker 10: went for, I know DeShawn talked about the play a

988
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Speaker 10: little bit. It was an r PO he mentioned and

989
00:45:17,719 --> 00:45:20,279
Speaker 10: obviously takes off he ends up being short. But it's

990
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Speaker 10: been sort of pointed out that you were you were

991
00:45:22,480 --> 00:45:24,320
Speaker 10: open sort of out on the flat on the play.

992
00:45:25,040 --> 00:45:28,640
Speaker 10: Just what what's your perspective on on how that play

993
00:45:28,760 --> 00:45:31,480
Speaker 10: went down, and you know how the processing is supposed

994
00:45:31,520 --> 00:45:32,280
Speaker 10: to work for DeShawn.

995
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Speaker 8: I mean, it's our po. You know, at the end

996
00:45:34,520 --> 00:45:36,600
Speaker 8: of the day, he can give it, he can pass it.

997
00:45:37,160 --> 00:45:39,239
Speaker 8: All of us was in the right positions. You know,

998
00:45:40,320 --> 00:45:42,480
Speaker 8: when it comes down to that play. We just trusted

999
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Speaker 8: DeShawn to make the best play, you know, have the

1000
00:45:45,760 --> 00:45:47,799
Speaker 8: best outcome of that play. You know, like I say,

1001
00:45:47,880 --> 00:45:50,920
Speaker 8: that defense signs so much, you know, and even sometimes

1002
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Speaker 8: they p drop, so.

1003
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Speaker 9: It could be it can be confusing. You know, you

1004
00:45:54,719 --> 00:45:56,080
Speaker 9: just can't put it all on Deshaun.

1005
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Speaker 8: We definitely wish we could have that play back, but

1006
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Speaker 8: at the end of the day, RPL so we can

1007
00:46:01,680 --> 00:46:03,920
Speaker 8: either run it or he can throw it and you know,

1008
00:46:04,320 --> 00:46:05,600
Speaker 8: next time we'll execute it.

1009
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Speaker 10: And then just from the Shawn's from your perspective, like

1010
00:46:09,080 --> 00:46:11,160
Speaker 10: DeShawn obviously being a captain on this team, a leader

1011
00:46:11,200 --> 00:46:14,279
Speaker 10: on this team, when you know he's getting hit the

1012
00:46:14,320 --> 00:46:17,520
Speaker 10: way he has in two games this year, and you

1013
00:46:17,560 --> 00:46:19,399
Speaker 10: know the offense is strogging the way that they just

1014
00:46:19,400 --> 00:46:21,400
Speaker 10: just what's his demeanor, Like, how is he kind of

1015
00:46:21,400 --> 00:46:23,160
Speaker 10: addressing you guys in the huddle and trying to kind

1016
00:46:23,160 --> 00:46:24,200
Speaker 10: of keep spirits up?

1017
00:46:24,960 --> 00:46:28,640
Speaker 8: Man, He's very positive. He turnos let's go, you know,

1018
00:46:28,719 --> 00:46:31,239
Speaker 8: let's make some big time plays. You know, let's keep going,

1019
00:46:31,280 --> 00:46:33,319
Speaker 8: don't give up. I mean, that's just the type of

1020
00:46:33,320 --> 00:46:36,720
Speaker 8: guy the Shawn is. Even when we play together in Houston,

1021
00:46:37,239 --> 00:46:40,000
Speaker 8: you know, the offense wasn't always like the best. But

1022
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Speaker 8: you know, as we all know, you know, the players

1023
00:46:42,400 --> 00:46:44,560
Speaker 8: never dead when the Shun had the ball in his hands.

1024
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Speaker 8: We just have to protect him better so he can

1025
00:46:46,880 --> 00:46:48,680
Speaker 8: keep his eyes down field and make those throws.

1026
00:46:48,840 --> 00:46:52,719
Speaker 11: Hi, Jordan, when you when things seem so bleak after

1027
00:46:52,760 --> 00:46:54,879
Speaker 11: a loss like that, what do you kind of hang

1028
00:46:54,960 --> 00:46:58,000
Speaker 11: your hat on as you move forward into this week

1029
00:46:58,040 --> 00:47:00,359
Speaker 11: and get ready to go out to the US and

1030
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Speaker 11: face the Raiders.

1031
00:47:01,680 --> 00:47:04,000
Speaker 8: Well, first we just come in like today and critique

1032
00:47:04,040 --> 00:47:07,080
Speaker 8: everything that we did wrong, and you know in areas

1033
00:47:07,080 --> 00:47:10,160
Speaker 8: that we can improve in and you know, and our

1034
00:47:10,200 --> 00:47:13,040
Speaker 8: strengths and our weaknesses. So we just come in and

1035
00:47:13,440 --> 00:47:15,680
Speaker 8: you know, make corrections. Just flushed that last game and

1036
00:47:16,239 --> 00:47:18,480
Speaker 8: put it behind us and come ready to work. And

1037
00:47:19,320 --> 00:47:23,040
Speaker 8: you know, just preach courage and encourage. Man, soa Deshaun

1038
00:47:23,160 --> 00:47:25,120
Speaker 8: to you know, be the player that we know he

1039
00:47:25,200 --> 00:47:27,239
Speaker 8: can be. And we got to get We got to

1040
00:47:27,280 --> 00:47:29,840
Speaker 8: get the offensive line, the tight ends, the wide receiver.

1041
00:47:29,920 --> 00:47:32,120
Speaker 8: Everyone got to get on one accord. And you know,

1042
00:47:32,120 --> 00:47:33,320
Speaker 8: we got to turn this thing around.

1043
00:47:33,640 --> 00:47:36,680
Speaker 11: Will you guys be ready for the blitzing and the

1044
00:47:36,719 --> 00:47:40,120
Speaker 11: stunts and the twisting and the games as you move forward.

1045
00:47:39,800 --> 00:47:43,160
Speaker 8: Here, no doubt we all pro So once we see it,

1046
00:47:43,200 --> 00:47:45,520
Speaker 8: we critique it and don't let it happen again.

1047
00:47:46,000 --> 00:47:46,760
Speaker 9: What it's all about?

1048
00:47:47,160 --> 00:47:49,879
Speaker 7: Hey, Jeordan, what have you seen in the run game?

1049
00:47:50,000 --> 00:47:52,120
Speaker 7: You know you had a good week in Jacksonville, but

1050
00:47:52,640 --> 00:47:54,840
Speaker 7: not so much yesterday and probably in the opener. So

1051
00:47:55,080 --> 00:47:56,840
Speaker 7: what have you seen the struggles there?

1052
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Speaker 8: I mean as far as that is, just like I said,

1053
00:47:59,280 --> 00:48:02,799
Speaker 8: the execution, and you know it's different when you just

1054
00:48:02,840 --> 00:48:04,680
Speaker 8: have certain fronts and you just come off the ball

1055
00:48:04,719 --> 00:48:07,920
Speaker 8: and drive, and then you have very athletic defensive linemen

1056
00:48:08,280 --> 00:48:10,680
Speaker 8: and you have very strong defensive lineman internally who can

1057
00:48:10,719 --> 00:48:13,560
Speaker 8: push that, who can push the inner pocket as well

1058
00:48:13,560 --> 00:48:15,400
Speaker 8: as maneuva on the out of pocket. So the stunts

1059
00:48:15,440 --> 00:48:18,680
Speaker 8: in the game, you can stunt one inside and you know,

1060
00:48:18,920 --> 00:48:20,920
Speaker 8: roll one from inside out. So I mean, you just

1061
00:48:20,920 --> 00:48:23,000
Speaker 8: got to keep your eyes on the swivel and different

1062
00:48:23,040 --> 00:48:26,160
Speaker 8: things to protect us in the area, especially to get

1063
00:48:26,160 --> 00:48:27,480
Speaker 8: to push off the line of scrimmage.

1064
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Speaker 7: And then you've been around Miles for a while now,

1065
00:48:31,000 --> 00:48:33,200
Speaker 7: you know he's obviously dealing with a bunch of different stuff.

1066
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Speaker 7: Coach said he's day to day. Miles said, he's going

1067
00:48:36,360 --> 00:48:39,440
Speaker 7: to play through unless they tell him he can't. Just

1068
00:48:39,480 --> 00:48:41,319
Speaker 7: what have you seen from him? And I guess how

1069
00:48:41,320 --> 00:48:44,280
Speaker 7: impressive is it that he continues to go out there.

1070
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Speaker 8: Great leader man and just to fight through the injuries

1071
00:48:46,640 --> 00:48:49,240
Speaker 8: that he have continue to go. It shows his passion

1072
00:48:49,239 --> 00:48:51,080
Speaker 8: for the game, is love for the game and how

1073
00:48:51,160 --> 00:48:53,400
Speaker 8: much he wants this team to win. So you know,

1074
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Speaker 8: the defense rather behind him, as far as the special

1075
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Speaker 8: teams and offense as well.

1076
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Speaker 9: So it may beaton play. We got to come up

1077
00:49:00,680 --> 00:49:02,880
Speaker 9: on our side on the offense and make bigs on plays.

1078
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Speaker 11: Yeah, Jordan, I have two for you real quick. The

1079
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Speaker 11: first one is we've been told that Wyatt Teller is

1080
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Speaker 11: going to miss multiple weeks. He might go on ir

1081
00:49:12,880 --> 00:49:15,640
Speaker 11: how good is Wyatt Teller and just how tough is

1082
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Speaker 11: it going to be to be without him for multiple weeks?

1083
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Speaker 5: Why?

1084
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Speaker 9: Man, that's my dog.

1085
00:49:19,760 --> 00:49:24,800
Speaker 8: He's a freight trained He's definitely very powerful, gets positive,

1086
00:49:24,880 --> 00:49:27,280
Speaker 8: push off the wrong scrimmage and you know we're definitely

1087
00:49:27,280 --> 00:49:27,839
Speaker 8: gonna miss him.

1088
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Speaker 9: But we have Offen Salaman who can replace that.

1089
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Speaker 8: We just got to prep them and put them in

1090
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Speaker 8: positions to be successful.

1091
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Speaker 9: Okay.

1092
00:49:35,800 --> 00:49:37,640
Speaker 11: And then the second one I have for you is

1093
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Speaker 11: how much has it kind of helped you to get

1094
00:49:41,640 --> 00:49:45,080
Speaker 11: these games under your belt in the tight end one

1095
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Speaker 11: role for when David comes back, Just that you guys

1096
00:49:48,960 --> 00:49:51,239
Speaker 11: will be able to maybe even work together better or

1097
00:49:51,280 --> 00:49:52,640
Speaker 11: what impact might it have on you?

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Speaker 9: I mean, the more experience you have in the league,

1099
00:49:56,200 --> 00:49:57,399
Speaker 9: the more the game slows down.

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00:49:57,480 --> 00:49:59,719
Speaker 8: So you know, just getting back out there, you know,

1101
00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:02,200
Speaker 8: aren't in playing more getting ball in my hands as

1102
00:50:02,200 --> 00:50:04,839
Speaker 8: well as been you know, including in the run game.

1103
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Speaker 8: It does a lot for me mentally and physically because

1104
00:50:07,480 --> 00:50:09,759
Speaker 8: my body ready and it mentally press my mind. So,

1105
00:50:10,239 --> 00:50:12,960
Speaker 8: you know, more hands on deck when David comes back,

1106
00:50:13,040 --> 00:50:16,440
Speaker 8: you know, we definitely gonna do play our role and

1107
00:50:16,760 --> 00:50:17,960
Speaker 8: be successful on offense.

1108
00:50:20,280 --> 00:50:23,200
Speaker 2: All right, there you go. Jordan Aikins from the podium yesterdays,

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Speaker 2: I thought's some really illuminating stuff on to Sean, He's

1110
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Speaker 2: don't even a very long time. I think you ought

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Speaker 2: to have a little bit of comfort in some of

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Speaker 2: the things that Jordan said there.

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Speaker 3: And I'll behalf of the.

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Speaker 2: He's right there signing autographs. So we'll be here till three.

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Speaker 2: around the league. Coming up next you listen to Cleveland

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Speaker 2: He's signing autographs just to my right. He will join

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Speaker 4: You're welcome, You're well, And i'd like to I'd like

1158
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Speaker 4: it to be on the record what a great experience

1159
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Speaker 4: this has been and how great is it is.

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Speaker 5: I think we've got another one coming up in October

1161
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Speaker 5: for you both.

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Speaker 3: Very exciting, good exciting. So there you go. Hey, this

1163
00:53:12,200 --> 00:53:12,520
Speaker 3: was great.

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Speaker 5: While while we're doing this and thanking everybody, Twinsburg Brownsbackers

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Speaker 5: host their second annual Community Hunger Center fundraiser last It'll

1166
00:53:22,160 --> 00:53:27,040
Speaker 5: be Sunday, October twenty seventh. Last year's event raised ten

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Speaker 5: grand and six car loads of non perishable donations in

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Speaker 5: one day.

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Speaker 3: It's good job, It's pretty great. Thank I think it's

1170
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Speaker 3: that question.

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Speaker 5: nine eight sixty two to twenty That is Sunday, October

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Speaker 5: twenty seventh. There you go, There we go. It's time

1179
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Speaker 5: for one thought? It ready all right? Ready? Oh where

1180
00:54:03,080 --> 00:54:05,960
Speaker 5: we go? From Week three in the National Football League,

1181
00:54:06,320 --> 00:54:12,799
Speaker 5: Packers thirty Titans fourteen. Packers continued to win Green Bay

1182
00:54:12,880 --> 00:54:15,040
Speaker 5: two to one. On the football season, Oh Bishop, one

1183
00:54:15,040 --> 00:54:15,920
Speaker 5: thought from you.

1184
00:54:15,719 --> 00:54:16,600
Speaker 3: Didn't get much right.

1185
00:54:16,719 --> 00:54:19,400
Speaker 2: Haven't gotten much right in the NFL this season. But

1186
00:54:19,480 --> 00:54:21,960
Speaker 2: I do think that Matt Lafleur is in the very

1187
00:54:22,080 --> 00:54:26,640
Speaker 2: highest echelon of coaches in this league. It was widely

1188
00:54:26,719 --> 00:54:30,560
Speaker 2: thought that the worst backup situation in the league was

1189
00:54:30,640 --> 00:54:33,799
Speaker 2: Malik Willis in Green Bay, and when Jordan Love went out,

1190
00:54:33,840 --> 00:54:38,800
Speaker 2: it was widely thought there cooked. Willis has been awesome

1191
00:54:39,160 --> 00:54:41,840
Speaker 2: by his standards. He went to Tennessee. What do you

1192
00:54:41,840 --> 00:54:42,200
Speaker 2: miss on?

1193
00:54:42,239 --> 00:54:46,000
Speaker 3: Two rows in this game? Two rows? He was twelve

1194
00:54:46,080 --> 00:54:47,240
Speaker 3: or fourteen the week before.

1195
00:54:47,600 --> 00:54:50,520
Speaker 2: They have manufactured two wins with Malik Willis, who all

1196
00:54:50,520 --> 00:54:52,439
Speaker 2: of a sudden looks like he's got a pulse, goes

1197
00:54:52,480 --> 00:54:55,640
Speaker 2: back to Tennessee Beats, the team that he was originally

1198
00:54:55,719 --> 00:54:56,359
Speaker 2: drafted for.

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Speaker 3: The Packers are legit.

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Speaker 2: Lafleur is legit it.

1201
00:55:01,880 --> 00:55:04,759
Speaker 4: So yes, So that's what I That's where I was

1202
00:55:04,800 --> 00:55:07,120
Speaker 4: gonna go add Laflora's coach of the year in our.

1203
00:55:07,080 --> 00:55:10,600
Speaker 3: Early you did, you did, And I's unbelievable. I like that.

1204
00:55:10,680 --> 00:55:13,760
Speaker 3: But we thought they were cooked with Willis. Everybody did totally.

1205
00:55:14,080 --> 00:55:14,759
Speaker 3: But here's though.

1206
00:55:14,760 --> 00:55:17,879
Speaker 4: You mentioned the numbers, So coaching does it matter? Yeah,

1207
00:55:18,239 --> 00:55:20,880
Speaker 4: Malik Willis in three starts with the Tennessee Titans was

1208
00:55:20,920 --> 00:55:24,920
Speaker 4: twenty five of forty nine passing. That's fifty two hundred

1209
00:55:24,920 --> 00:55:28,920
Speaker 4: and thirty four yards. No touchdowns. That's in three three games.

1210
00:55:29,280 --> 00:55:33,160
Speaker 4: Malik Willis in two games with Peter lafleur is twenty

1211
00:55:33,160 --> 00:55:36,240
Speaker 4: five for thirty three Can I interest you in? Seventy

1212
00:55:36,280 --> 00:55:39,439
Speaker 4: six percent completions come for three hundred and twenty four yards,

1213
00:55:39,440 --> 00:55:41,600
Speaker 4: two touchdowns. He also ran for seventy and a touchdown

1214
00:55:41,960 --> 00:55:45,680
Speaker 4: in that game as well. A very impressive performance Green

1215
00:55:45,719 --> 00:55:49,600
Speaker 4: Bay very good, Tennessee very very bad.

1216
00:55:49,760 --> 00:55:51,319
Speaker 3: And at some point, you.

1217
00:55:51,280 --> 00:55:54,759
Speaker 2: Know Levis does something every game that you go, I've

1218
00:55:54,800 --> 00:55:59,160
Speaker 2: never seen anybody do that in all three games. No, negatively, Yeah,

1219
00:55:59,239 --> 00:56:02,239
Speaker 2: like what every game.

1220
00:56:02,160 --> 00:56:04,680
Speaker 3: Is stupefying, Yes, and.

1221
00:56:06,840 --> 00:56:07,520
Speaker 5: You think they'd like that.

1222
00:56:07,840 --> 00:56:09,879
Speaker 2: I don't think it would have worked. It would have worked.

1223
00:56:09,960 --> 00:56:12,600
Speaker 2: It's I think it's laflor I think he's excellent.

1224
00:56:12,719 --> 00:56:14,520
Speaker 3: He's dialed it up absolutely.

1225
00:56:15,040 --> 00:56:17,920
Speaker 5: Up. Next, the Yellowstones finally get on the board in

1226
00:56:17,960 --> 00:56:21,439
Speaker 5: the win column in twenty twenty four, Colts twenty one,

1227
00:56:22,040 --> 00:56:24,320
Speaker 5: the Bears sixteen, The Girl.

1228
00:56:24,560 --> 00:56:29,040
Speaker 4: From You Anthony Richardson, Is I mean, is this one

1229
00:56:29,040 --> 00:56:33,160
Speaker 4: of the worst performances in a win for a quarterback ever?

1230
00:56:33,920 --> 00:56:36,800
Speaker 4: Ten of twenty for one hundred and sixty seven yards.

1231
00:56:36,800 --> 00:56:40,719
Speaker 4: Two picks, Oh not just two picks, dude, It's two

1232
00:56:41,920 --> 00:56:47,640
Speaker 4: horrific picks. I mean, just awful, awful, awful, awful picks.

1233
00:56:47,880 --> 00:56:50,560
Speaker 4: It's unbelievable to me that Caleb Williams threw for three

1234
00:56:50,640 --> 00:56:55,080
Speaker 4: hundred and sixty three yards and they scored a whopping

1235
00:56:55,360 --> 00:56:58,040
Speaker 4: sixteen points this one. Here's the thing. They can't run.

1236
00:56:58,080 --> 00:57:00,440
Speaker 4: Their offensive line is as bad as the Cleveland Browns.

1237
00:57:00,480 --> 00:57:04,000
Speaker 4: They cannot run the football at all.

1238
00:57:04,000 --> 00:57:06,560
Speaker 3: How's that money they spent on DeAndre Swift working.

1239
00:57:06,360 --> 00:57:09,320
Speaker 4: Out and not well? And it's not his faults. I'm saying,

1240
00:57:09,360 --> 00:57:12,040
Speaker 4: like the clip of the the you can't lie. That

1241
00:57:12,080 --> 00:57:13,560
Speaker 4: doesn't matter. He could have just give it doesn't matter

1242
00:57:13,600 --> 00:57:16,320
Speaker 4: who's played running back for them, honestly, and Jonathan Taylor

1243
00:57:16,360 --> 00:57:18,640
Speaker 4: still got it. He looks great. Twenty three and ten,

1244
00:57:18,640 --> 00:57:20,000
Speaker 4: two touchdowns to leave that team.

1245
00:57:20,400 --> 00:57:23,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think the this was a This was at

1246
00:57:23,240 --> 00:57:25,440
Speaker 2: least you feel a little better from a bear's perspective

1247
00:57:25,480 --> 00:57:29,520
Speaker 2: because the offense unlocked three sixty. As you mentioned, I've

1248
00:57:29,520 --> 00:57:31,960
Speaker 2: been on the Richardson stuff early because I watched that

1249
00:57:32,000 --> 00:57:32,840
Speaker 2: first game they played.

1250
00:57:32,880 --> 00:57:34,760
Speaker 3: I'm blanking on who the opponent was.

1251
00:57:34,760 --> 00:57:36,600
Speaker 2: But the first week I thought, my god, this guy

1252
00:57:36,680 --> 00:57:39,560
Speaker 2: is scattershot, Like you hit that one that everybody got

1253
00:57:39,600 --> 00:57:41,600
Speaker 2: to raise attention, but he had ten Yeah that were

1254
00:57:41,640 --> 00:57:42,360
Speaker 2: just airmailed.

1255
00:57:42,560 --> 00:57:44,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's wildly inaccurate.

1256
00:57:44,240 --> 00:57:45,520
Speaker 5: Is that the Texans game? That was?

1257
00:57:45,520 --> 00:57:47,880
Speaker 3: That's why I watched it was Texans? Yeah, just he

1258
00:57:47,960 --> 00:57:49,120
Speaker 3: would throw it anywhere.

1259
00:57:51,080 --> 00:57:53,720
Speaker 5: Up next, there are five teams that are three and

1260
00:57:53,760 --> 00:58:01,240
Speaker 5: oh in the NFL, Seattle Buffalo Pukers, Chiefs and Minnesota Vikings.

1261
00:58:01,320 --> 00:58:04,720
Speaker 5: Vikings thirty four, Texans seven. Both. Bishop One thought, if you.

1262
00:58:04,640 --> 00:58:06,800
Speaker 2: Want to do Viking side of this from the Texan side,

1263
00:58:06,800 --> 00:58:10,360
Speaker 2: this is pretty brutal. It's one thing to lose. But

1264
00:58:10,400 --> 00:58:13,440
Speaker 2: they they pitched it in pretty quickly in this game

1265
00:58:13,800 --> 00:58:17,400
Speaker 2: and kind of conceded on to next week. I think

1266
00:58:17,400 --> 00:58:19,680
Speaker 2: they're a very good team, but this was a wildly

1267
00:58:19,800 --> 00:58:24,600
Speaker 2: disappointing effort in Minnesota for Houston. And I did not

1268
00:58:24,800 --> 00:58:27,320
Speaker 2: like the fact that they kind of pushed it in

1269
00:58:27,360 --> 00:58:27,960
Speaker 2: a little early.

1270
00:58:28,840 --> 00:58:32,000
Speaker 4: So girl, it was a very disappointing performance from CJ.

1271
00:58:32,120 --> 00:58:34,360
Speaker 4: Stroud and I thought his body language was weird.

1272
00:58:34,400 --> 00:58:35,600
Speaker 3: It was weird game.

1273
00:58:35,760 --> 00:58:39,920
Speaker 4: It was strange all around Minnesota. You got to give

1274
00:58:39,960 --> 00:58:41,720
Speaker 4: so much credit to what they're doing. How about this,

1275
00:58:41,760 --> 00:58:43,600
Speaker 4: if I told you that Jalen Naylor had a receiving

1276
00:58:43,640 --> 00:58:45,800
Speaker 4: touchdown in all three games. If probably say who, Well,

1277
00:58:45,800 --> 00:58:48,360
Speaker 4: that guy Jalen Naylor, by the way, was a teammate

1278
00:58:48,760 --> 00:58:51,520
Speaker 4: of dtr and Cedric Tillman at Bishop Gorman High School,

1279
00:58:51,520 --> 00:58:52,600
Speaker 4: So that must been a pretty good team.

1280
00:58:52,600 --> 00:58:53,720
Speaker 3: Pretty good team.

1281
00:58:54,680 --> 00:58:58,520
Speaker 4: Their ability right now to use really two pieces consistently

1282
00:58:58,560 --> 00:59:01,520
Speaker 4: in the offense, justin Jefferson in the past game and

1283
00:59:01,560 --> 00:59:04,720
Speaker 4: then Aaron Jones and have the success that they are

1284
00:59:04,840 --> 00:59:06,120
Speaker 4: is really incredible.

1285
00:59:06,200 --> 00:59:08,200
Speaker 3: It's incredible. And Darnald's just been so efficient.

1286
00:59:08,280 --> 00:59:13,200
Speaker 4: Four passing touchdowns in this game, Sam Donald and Andy

1287
00:59:13,360 --> 00:59:19,280
Speaker 4: Dalton combined for seven passing touchdowns and no interceptions. I'm

1288
00:59:19,280 --> 00:59:21,480
Speaker 4: pretty sure I don't think Dalton threw one on Sunday.

1289
00:59:21,680 --> 00:59:23,240
Speaker 2: The only you know, the thing I kept coming back

1290
00:59:23,240 --> 00:59:25,240
Speaker 2: to is I remember you talking to me about when

1291
00:59:25,320 --> 00:59:27,960
Speaker 2: Sam was on the Niners and you said, Kyle loves him.

1292
00:59:28,280 --> 00:59:28,480
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1293
00:59:28,520 --> 00:59:30,480
Speaker 2: So it was just one of those things where like,

1294
00:59:30,480 --> 00:59:33,240
Speaker 2: if he can get to the right place that takes

1295
00:59:33,240 --> 00:59:37,200
Speaker 2: advantage of what he can do, and he is he

1296
00:59:37,360 --> 00:59:39,760
Speaker 2: is now. I'm not gonna give them any credit because

1297
00:59:39,760 --> 00:59:44,040
Speaker 2: they were gonna play McCarthy. They were, so he's done

1298
00:59:44,120 --> 00:59:46,640
Speaker 2: this despite them gonna go with the rookie, and they

1299
00:59:46,720 --> 00:59:48,960
Speaker 2: drafted the rookie, so I think it's even surprised them

1300
00:59:48,960 --> 00:59:49,640
Speaker 2: how good he's been.

1301
00:59:49,760 --> 00:59:51,280
Speaker 3: Yes, but he's been extraordinary.

1302
00:59:51,480 --> 00:59:54,840
Speaker 5: Yep, agreed a good one. Uh, well, I guess it's

1303
00:59:54,840 --> 00:59:58,480
Speaker 5: a good one. Eagles hand the Saints their first loss

1304
00:59:58,480 --> 01:00:00,760
Speaker 5: of the year fifteen to twelve. Eagle was improved two

1305
01:00:00,760 --> 01:00:04,400
Speaker 5: and one after that Monday night debacle to the Falcons.

1306
01:00:05,000 --> 01:00:06,040
Speaker 5: Ze girl, one thought from you.

1307
01:00:06,520 --> 01:00:09,479
Speaker 4: Saquan is everything that the Eagles had hoped he would

1308
01:00:09,520 --> 01:00:11,520
Speaker 4: be in terms of what he's brought to them. One

1309
01:00:11,600 --> 01:00:13,840
Speaker 4: hundred and forty seven yards, two touchdowns, the sixty five

1310
01:00:13,920 --> 01:00:17,200
Speaker 4: yard touchdown run. This was a smash mouth game. I

1311
01:00:17,200 --> 01:00:19,960
Speaker 4: thought the Eagles defense did a great job. It's honestly

1312
01:00:20,040 --> 01:00:23,440
Speaker 4: surprising that they didn't score more points. Thy being the Eagles,

1313
01:00:23,440 --> 01:00:25,680
Speaker 4: this one maybe was not as close as the score

1314
01:00:25,760 --> 01:00:28,840
Speaker 4: indicated in terms of their dominance in jite, I think

1315
01:00:28,880 --> 01:00:29,120
Speaker 4: it was.

1316
01:00:29,200 --> 01:00:31,520
Speaker 3: It was something crazy. Let me see real quickly.

1317
01:00:31,920 --> 01:00:35,080
Speaker 4: Total yards for the Eagles four hundred and sixty to

1318
01:00:35,080 --> 01:00:37,760
Speaker 4: two hundred and nineteen and it was a fifteen to

1319
01:00:37,760 --> 01:00:39,840
Speaker 4: twelve game. And the Eagles, by the way, didn't score

1320
01:00:39,880 --> 01:00:41,919
Speaker 4: until the fourth quarter, and they put up four hundred

1321
01:00:41,920 --> 01:00:44,800
Speaker 4: and sixty yards of offense. That's insane.

1322
01:00:45,080 --> 01:00:47,760
Speaker 2: No aj Brown in this game denote Avonta Smith in

1323
01:00:47,800 --> 01:00:48,440
Speaker 2: this game, by the.

1324
01:00:48,360 --> 01:00:50,840
Speaker 3: Way, that was it. They had gone hit on DeVonta Smith.

1325
01:00:50,880 --> 01:00:51,560
Speaker 3: It was gross.

1326
01:00:51,880 --> 01:00:54,479
Speaker 2: There was one guy to stop on a huge play

1327
01:00:54,520 --> 01:00:55,400
Speaker 2: towards the end of this game.

1328
01:00:55,440 --> 01:00:58,600
Speaker 3: It was Goddard. That's it, and New Orleans couldn't stop them,

1329
01:00:58,800 --> 01:00:59,600
Speaker 3: Dallas Goddard.

1330
01:00:59,640 --> 01:01:02,280
Speaker 4: People talk about fantasy football, how bad fantasy has been

1331
01:01:02,280 --> 01:01:03,800
Speaker 4: this year at the tight end position, and all the

1332
01:01:03,800 --> 01:01:06,600
Speaker 4: people that were drafted early. Kelsey's been a bum Laporte

1333
01:01:06,600 --> 01:01:10,360
Speaker 4: has been terrible, Mark Andrews has been invisible. McBride hasn't

1334
01:01:10,400 --> 01:01:12,160
Speaker 4: been good either. He didn't fall on a fumble in

1335
01:01:12,160 --> 01:01:14,640
Speaker 4: the end zone. Goddard's the number one fantasy tight end

1336
01:01:14,680 --> 01:01:16,440
Speaker 4: basically because of this game in or He had ten

1337
01:01:16,480 --> 01:01:17,760
Speaker 4: catches for one hundred and seventy yards.

1338
01:01:17,760 --> 01:01:19,080
Speaker 3: He was the one weapon they had.

1339
01:01:19,720 --> 01:01:24,280
Speaker 5: Yeah up next to Pukers get lucky again. Herbert with

1340
01:01:24,440 --> 01:01:29,000
Speaker 5: that bum ankle gives him trouble and the Squealers improved

1341
01:01:29,000 --> 01:01:32,280
Speaker 5: a three and oh, knocking off the Chargers twenty to ten.

1342
01:01:32,720 --> 01:01:36,000
Speaker 2: Bob Bishop, no one's happier more happier for Pittsburgh success

1343
01:01:36,000 --> 01:01:38,000
Speaker 2: to your mouth.

1344
01:01:38,680 --> 01:01:42,840
Speaker 3: You love them Pittsburgh, Papa, No wrong. That's probably why

1345
01:01:42,880 --> 01:01:44,280
Speaker 3: you finally agreed to come to the East side a

1346
01:01:44,280 --> 01:01:47,280
Speaker 3: little bit closer to Pittsburgh. Yeah good, the shorter commute.

1347
01:01:47,320 --> 01:01:49,439
Speaker 5: I mean, you live in the west.

1348
01:01:49,440 --> 01:01:55,360
Speaker 2: So this is why, this is why he said anywhere

1349
01:01:55,360 --> 01:01:58,520
Speaker 2: but here, justin fields. Every time when we were at

1350
01:01:58,560 --> 01:02:01,000
Speaker 2: the combine, we kept saying, what are we missing about fields?

1351
01:02:01,000 --> 01:02:03,720
Speaker 2: And everyone's like, he's no good. He stinks Maybe they

1352
01:02:03,920 --> 01:02:07,160
Speaker 2: maybe they stink. Maybe we were right because what they

1353
01:02:07,200 --> 01:02:10,080
Speaker 2: have done is a quarterback rehability. They don't ask him

1354
01:02:10,080 --> 01:02:12,240
Speaker 2: to do much. They ask him to throw to the

1355
01:02:12,320 --> 01:02:15,080
Speaker 2: sidelines or run. They finally let him throw in the middle.

1356
01:02:15,080 --> 01:02:16,800
Speaker 2: He did throw one pick, but did hit a big one.

1357
01:02:17,200 --> 01:02:18,080
Speaker 3: Calvin Austins.

1358
01:02:18,240 --> 01:02:20,320
Speaker 2: He is now more. He is more confident that he's

1359
01:02:20,320 --> 01:02:22,360
Speaker 2: ever been as a pro. You can see it in

1360
01:02:22,400 --> 01:02:24,600
Speaker 2: the way that he plays. And they have a formula

1361
01:02:24,800 --> 01:02:26,800
Speaker 2: and they know who they are and unfortunately they're not

1362
01:02:26,840 --> 01:02:27,440
Speaker 2: going anywhere.

1363
01:02:27,480 --> 01:02:30,240
Speaker 4: Well, there's something that happens when people go there. I mean,

1364
01:02:30,320 --> 01:02:33,080
Speaker 4: it's true. And we heard from Joe Hayden talk about it.

1365
01:02:33,120 --> 01:02:35,400
Speaker 4: We heard Larry Ogan Jobi when he went there. Talking

1366
01:02:35,400 --> 01:02:37,960
Speaker 4: to Zach Banner, a former good friend of the program,

1367
01:02:39,000 --> 01:02:41,800
Speaker 4: there is something about the way that they conduct their business.

1368
01:02:41,800 --> 01:02:44,720
Speaker 4: And yeah, as much as you know, we give Arthur

1369
01:02:44,720 --> 01:02:46,840
Speaker 4: Smith a lot of grief, he's done. He's done a

1370
01:02:46,840 --> 01:02:50,280
Speaker 4: good job with the limitations they have. Now they have

1371
01:02:50,400 --> 01:02:53,040
Speaker 4: only needed to score eleven points to win all of

1372
01:02:53,040 --> 01:02:56,760
Speaker 4: their dance because the defense has been beyond sensational. But

1373
01:02:57,480 --> 01:03:01,320
Speaker 4: they're playing to their formula and and it is working.

1374
01:03:01,600 --> 01:03:02,240
Speaker 3: It's working.

1375
01:03:02,520 --> 01:03:05,880
Speaker 4: And by the way, we all know about TJ. Watt

1376
01:03:05,880 --> 01:03:08,320
Speaker 4: and how good he is. We all know about you know,

1377
01:03:08,560 --> 01:03:11,120
Speaker 4: uh High Smith and how good he is. But Nick

1378
01:03:11,200 --> 01:03:14,840
Speaker 4: herbig that they drafted a little Let's see when they

1379
01:03:14,920 --> 01:03:18,240
Speaker 4: drafted him last year, I want to say, as a

1380
01:03:18,280 --> 01:03:21,120
Speaker 4: fourth rounder and they said, okay, this guy is he's

1381
01:03:21,120 --> 01:03:25,280
Speaker 4: got a chance. Two sacks, forced fumble in this game. Yeah,

1382
01:03:25,280 --> 01:03:27,840
Speaker 4: all of a sudden, give them three pass rushers like

1383
01:03:27,840 --> 01:03:29,640
Speaker 4: that along with Cam Hayward. He had a sack in

1384
01:03:29,680 --> 01:03:32,920
Speaker 4: this one. They're never going to be an easy out.

1385
01:03:33,320 --> 01:03:35,680
Speaker 4: And I think that's the thing that is kind of

1386
01:03:35,760 --> 01:03:38,919
Speaker 4: right now, that's we're not an easy out per se.

1387
01:03:38,960 --> 01:03:42,480
Speaker 4: But there's something we don't have that mystique, that physicality

1388
01:03:42,520 --> 01:03:45,000
Speaker 4: that they bring every single week. And you think about

1389
01:03:45,000 --> 01:03:47,560
Speaker 4: the Tennessee Titans under Mike Vrabele. They had that where

1390
01:03:47,560 --> 01:03:50,400
Speaker 4: they were always no matter even if they were ughout.

1391
01:03:50,400 --> 01:03:52,280
Speaker 4: And I gotta tell you, I think that's what you're

1392
01:03:52,320 --> 01:03:54,200
Speaker 4: gonna get from this Raiders scene because I just think

1393
01:03:54,200 --> 01:03:57,440
Speaker 4: Antonio Pierce demands it. Yes, and after he called the

1394
01:03:57,440 --> 01:04:00,360
Speaker 4: people out. I don't know if they're very talented football team.

1395
01:04:00,360 --> 01:04:02,320
Speaker 4: I don't happen to think that they are, but I

1396
01:04:02,360 --> 01:04:05,640
Speaker 4: do think you're going to get a physical performance on

1397
01:04:05,680 --> 01:04:07,320
Speaker 4: Sunday that the Browns are gonna have to match.

1398
01:04:07,600 --> 01:04:09,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, And at Pittsburgh knows exactly they have an identity.

1399
01:04:10,160 --> 01:04:11,880
Speaker 2: They know when you go there, you sign up for it.

1400
01:04:11,920 --> 01:04:12,880
Speaker 2: Get in line or get.

1401
01:04:12,720 --> 01:04:16,200
Speaker 5: Out justin fields. On the year, fifty five is seventy five,

1402
01:04:16,280 --> 01:04:19,720
Speaker 5: seventy three percent completion, five hundred and eighteen yards. It's

1403
01:04:19,760 --> 01:04:23,160
Speaker 5: only six point nine yards yeah per completion. Yeah, it's

1404
01:04:23,160 --> 01:04:26,320
Speaker 5: only like what's his yards per attempt? I don't have

1405
01:04:26,440 --> 01:04:29,520
Speaker 5: that in front of me. It's pretty fair touchdowns and

1406
01:04:29,600 --> 01:04:31,720
Speaker 5: a pick and then he's got ninety yards rushing in

1407
01:04:31,760 --> 01:04:32,880
Speaker 5: a Touchdow's.

1408
01:04:32,360 --> 01:04:34,240
Speaker 2: Spinning it all over the place, but he's not turning

1409
01:04:34,240 --> 01:04:36,000
Speaker 2: it over, and he's completing a high percent inge of

1410
01:04:36,000 --> 01:04:38,440
Speaker 2: pass and they're three, and oh it's all that matters.

1411
01:04:38,880 --> 01:04:42,960
Speaker 5: Next up, Broncos twenty six Tampa Bay seven. Did not

1412
01:04:43,040 --> 01:04:45,600
Speaker 5: have this on the Bengo card going into the weekend,

1413
01:04:45,640 --> 01:04:47,760
Speaker 5: but Denver gets their first girl one thought.

1414
01:04:51,560 --> 01:04:52,280
Speaker 3: Shocker, right.

1415
01:04:52,640 --> 01:04:55,560
Speaker 4: Obviously, certain things on our Cleveland Browns twitter are a

1416
01:04:55,600 --> 01:05:01,520
Speaker 4: little more quiet this week following this performance an absolute stunner.

1417
01:05:01,560 --> 01:05:06,360
Speaker 4: Bo Nicks played pretty well. I'm just I'm shocked. It

1418
01:05:06,480 --> 01:05:09,280
Speaker 4: is a shocker. Mike Evans two catches for seventeen yards,

1419
01:05:09,320 --> 01:05:09,920
Speaker 4: three targets.

1420
01:05:09,920 --> 01:05:10,680
Speaker 3: How does that happen?

1421
01:05:11,040 --> 01:05:13,080
Speaker 2: Look at bakes attempts versus yards.

1422
01:05:13,240 --> 01:05:15,480
Speaker 4: It's thirty three attempts for one hundred and sixty three

1423
01:05:15,600 --> 01:05:18,120
Speaker 4: was sacks seven times QBR of ten point three in

1424
01:05:18,160 --> 01:05:18,480
Speaker 4: this one.

1425
01:05:18,600 --> 01:05:20,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, not good.

1426
01:05:20,360 --> 01:05:22,479
Speaker 2: It's probably the most stupefying result of the week.

1427
01:05:22,560 --> 01:05:26,160
Speaker 3: I think that in ours. Yeah, but this one, Carolina, I.

1428
01:05:26,120 --> 01:05:29,080
Speaker 2: Mean, because they slumped, you can wrap your health, you

1429
01:05:29,080 --> 01:05:31,560
Speaker 2: could wrap your head around Dalton coming in, and I

1430
01:05:31,600 --> 01:05:34,680
Speaker 2: mean that wasn't it was twenty seven.

1431
01:05:34,240 --> 01:05:35,880
Speaker 3: The Raiders, but these guys hammered the.

1432
01:05:35,800 --> 01:05:38,360
Speaker 4: Bose twenty to seven. The Bucks did not score a

1433
01:05:38,400 --> 01:05:39,400
Speaker 4: point in the second half.

1434
01:05:39,440 --> 01:05:42,200
Speaker 2: No, No, that that was the most stupefying result to me.

1435
01:05:42,880 --> 01:05:46,800
Speaker 5: Well, this one's a close second. Carolina thirty six, Raiders

1436
01:05:46,920 --> 01:05:51,200
Speaker 5: twenty two. This game wasn't even enough question at any point.

1437
01:05:51,200 --> 01:05:52,520
Speaker 5: Bo Bishop one thought.

1438
01:05:52,400 --> 01:05:55,600
Speaker 2: Just from the I'm fascinated with rookie, with young quarterbacks

1439
01:05:55,640 --> 01:05:59,280
Speaker 2: and no other handled. How does Bryce Young come back?

1440
01:06:00,400 --> 01:06:04,000
Speaker 2: How does he come back from incompetence when I play

1441
01:06:04,320 --> 01:06:07,080
Speaker 2: lights out when I don't. I just don't know how

1442
01:06:07,080 --> 01:06:08,360
Speaker 2: he ever comes back from it.

1443
01:06:08,440 --> 01:06:08,800
Speaker 3: I don't.

1444
01:06:10,440 --> 01:06:15,440
Speaker 4: It's true, it's it's gotta be a painful moment for him.

1445
01:06:15,840 --> 01:06:18,760
Speaker 4: I mean Andy Dalton became the first quarterback this season

1446
01:06:18,800 --> 01:06:20,840
Speaker 4: to throw for three hundred yards and three touchdowns in

1447
01:06:20,880 --> 01:06:22,000
Speaker 4: a game in Week three.

1448
01:06:22,040 --> 01:06:24,000
Speaker 3: That's the NFL in twenty twenty four right now, which

1449
01:06:24,040 --> 01:06:26,240
Speaker 3: is outrageous and outrageous statement.

1450
01:06:26,720 --> 01:06:31,920
Speaker 4: Uh yeah, this was a complete dismantling. He was flawless.

1451
01:06:32,000 --> 01:06:33,919
Speaker 4: Chewba Hubbard all of a sudden runs for a hundred yards.

1452
01:06:33,920 --> 01:06:37,120
Speaker 4: Deiontay Johnson's got eight for one two theland caught a touchdown,

1453
01:06:37,200 --> 01:06:37,760
Speaker 4: He gets hurt.

1454
01:06:37,880 --> 01:06:39,480
Speaker 3: Xavier Leegiate looks good.

1455
01:06:41,040 --> 01:06:44,520
Speaker 4: DeVante Adams was furious again on the sidelines, didn't get

1456
01:06:44,520 --> 01:06:46,120
Speaker 4: the ball at all like he wanted to.

1457
01:06:47,640 --> 01:06:50,160
Speaker 3: It was a wild one. I'm surprise. So did they

1458
01:06:50,280 --> 01:06:51,840
Speaker 3: pull Minshew just because it.

1459
01:06:51,880 --> 01:06:55,200
Speaker 2: Was a blowout and they were like, let's see O'Connell

1460
01:06:56,400 --> 01:06:58,800
Speaker 2: and then they've committed though that Minshew will start, even

1461
01:06:58,800 --> 01:07:00,680
Speaker 2: though he was a little wish wish you wash it.

1462
01:07:00,680 --> 01:07:03,080
Speaker 2: It could be I haven't seen that. Okay, I'd believe you,

1463
01:07:03,120 --> 01:07:03,880
Speaker 2: but I haven't seen that.

1464
01:07:05,760 --> 01:07:08,560
Speaker 5: On the year, three touchdowns, three picks, seven hundred and

1465
01:07:08,560 --> 01:07:13,200
Speaker 5: forty seven yards, seventy three point seven percent completions for

1466
01:07:13,240 --> 01:07:18,960
Speaker 5: the for the stash. Next Seahawks go to three percent.

1467
01:07:18,960 --> 01:07:21,040
Speaker 3: You have some of these people completing seventy three percent passes.

1468
01:07:21,080 --> 01:07:22,040
Speaker 3: They're throwing for new yards.

1469
01:07:22,080 --> 01:07:25,600
Speaker 2: It's all underneath, nothing down the field or dangerous. It's

1470
01:07:25,640 --> 01:07:27,880
Speaker 2: bad ball. It's not fun to watch. Last night was

1471
01:07:28,040 --> 01:07:30,120
Speaker 2: last night was? But you had bombs over Bagdad.

1472
01:07:30,160 --> 01:07:32,680
Speaker 4: I mean you had you had real offenses. Yeah, playing

1473
01:07:32,760 --> 01:07:34,560
Speaker 4: you had three teams scored thirty.

1474
01:07:34,360 --> 01:07:35,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, and they were all fun.

1475
01:07:36,040 --> 01:07:38,960
Speaker 5: Seahawks are one of five teams at three and oh

1476
01:07:39,200 --> 01:07:42,280
Speaker 5: they take down Miami twenty four to three. Is a

1477
01:07:42,400 --> 01:07:43,280
Speaker 5: girrow one.

1478
01:07:43,240 --> 01:07:46,400
Speaker 3: Thought, it's inconceivable to me.

1479
01:07:48,960 --> 01:07:53,080
Speaker 4: That just because TWOA doesn't play, that they're incompetent on offense.

1480
01:07:53,200 --> 01:07:56,240
Speaker 4: You've got Devin a chan Still, You've got tyreek Hill,

1481
01:07:56,400 --> 01:07:59,400
Speaker 4: You've got Waddle Wattle and Tyreek Hill had seven catches

1482
01:07:59,440 --> 01:08:01,480
Speaker 4: for sixty six yards combined.

1483
01:08:01,880 --> 01:08:03,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'd realized.

1484
01:08:03,240 --> 01:08:06,320
Speaker 4: They got their their pants pulled down and whatnot. But

1485
01:08:06,920 --> 01:08:11,800
Speaker 4: craziness dk Metcalf remains unbelievable. Sharbona. People were wondering why

1486
01:08:11,800 --> 01:08:13,680
Speaker 4: they draft him. The second round they had Kenneth Walker.

1487
01:08:13,760 --> 01:08:17,439
Speaker 4: That's why eighteen for ninety one, two touchdowns and Walker

1488
01:08:17,640 --> 01:08:20,200
Speaker 4: is out indefinitely. Gino Smith playing well again, only had

1489
01:08:20,200 --> 01:08:22,720
Speaker 4: a couple of turnovers. But the one is supefying to

1490
01:08:22,760 --> 01:08:25,639
Speaker 4: me is how does Jackson, Smith and Jay but nothing

1491
01:08:25,640 --> 01:08:26,120
Speaker 4: Week one?

1492
01:08:26,920 --> 01:08:30,720
Speaker 3: All the targets and is a star Week two? Nothing again?

1493
01:08:30,760 --> 01:08:32,680
Speaker 3: Week three. I don't know. I don't know that.

1494
01:08:32,840 --> 01:08:35,840
Speaker 2: I think Miami, of the six teams who made the

1495
01:08:35,880 --> 01:08:38,800
Speaker 2: postseason that are one and two, they have no path back.

1496
01:08:39,360 --> 01:08:42,639
Speaker 3: None as currently their path is to sign Ryan Tannehill,

1497
01:08:42,640 --> 01:08:43,400
Speaker 3: and they can do that.

1498
01:08:43,479 --> 01:08:47,160
Speaker 2: They could trade for Russell Wilson, but they've got to

1499
01:08:47,200 --> 01:08:47,680
Speaker 2: do some I.

1500
01:08:47,600 --> 01:08:50,960
Speaker 4: Think Russell Wilson would infuriate Mike McDaniel.

1501
01:08:52,080 --> 01:08:54,599
Speaker 2: Probably, Probably, he wouldn't throw the ball on time.

1502
01:08:54,920 --> 01:08:55,000
Speaker 4: No.

1503
01:08:55,880 --> 01:08:58,720
Speaker 5: Maybe the Ravens' greatest offseason loss is the current head

1504
01:08:58,760 --> 01:09:01,760
Speaker 5: coach of the Seattleca Hawks. The Ravens get off the

1505
01:09:01,800 --> 01:09:05,200
Speaker 5: schneide and get win number one. They do so by

1506
01:09:05,240 --> 01:09:08,040
Speaker 5: going to Dallas and taking out the Cowboys twenty eight

1507
01:09:08,120 --> 01:09:12,479
Speaker 5: twenty five, Dallas continuing to go backwards. Bo Bishop one point, I.

1508
01:09:12,439 --> 01:09:13,800
Speaker 3: Don't understand this game at all.

1509
01:09:13,880 --> 01:09:16,800
Speaker 2: I don't understand the fact that the Ravens can't get

1510
01:09:16,840 --> 01:09:21,120
Speaker 2: a third down with Lamar Jackson and and Derrick Henry,

1511
01:09:21,120 --> 01:09:23,400
Speaker 2: how they can't get a first down in the game's over.

1512
01:09:23,439 --> 01:09:25,679
Speaker 2: They could not do it, and they kept giving Dallas

1513
01:09:25,720 --> 01:09:30,080
Speaker 2: bites at the apple. There's something wrong with Baltimore, and

1514
01:09:30,120 --> 01:09:32,720
Speaker 2: it's not necessarily defense. Yeah, they gave up some in

1515
01:09:32,760 --> 01:09:35,000
Speaker 2: the fourth quarter, but like to not be able to

1516
01:09:35,000 --> 01:09:35,679
Speaker 2: stay on the field.

1517
01:09:35,720 --> 01:09:37,880
Speaker 3: That's why they signed Derrick Henry. Here's the crew.

1518
01:09:37,960 --> 01:09:39,840
Speaker 2: He was fine, he had a great game. And Lamar

1519
01:09:39,880 --> 01:09:41,559
Speaker 2: they're both run. It's fine, but it's.

1520
01:09:41,400 --> 01:09:45,400
Speaker 4: Like Lamar averaged twelve point one yards per pass attempt

1521
01:09:45,760 --> 01:09:49,360
Speaker 4: and they averaged six yards per rush attempt as a team. Yeah,

1522
01:09:49,520 --> 01:09:51,840
Speaker 4: Derek Henry Lamar and just still all average over six

1523
01:09:51,960 --> 01:09:54,120
Speaker 4: yards of carry. How could they not get first downs

1524
01:09:54,360 --> 01:09:56,320
Speaker 4: if every time you throw it you gained twelve yards

1525
01:09:56,320 --> 01:09:59,040
Speaker 4: and every time you ran it you gained six first.

1526
01:09:59,080 --> 01:10:02,080
Speaker 2: So it was twenty eight six young into the fourth. Yep,

1527
01:10:02,640 --> 01:10:06,719
Speaker 2: if you have one drive, it's drive over. Couldn't couldn't

1528
01:10:07,160 --> 01:10:07,920
Speaker 2: drive together.

1529
01:10:07,840 --> 01:10:11,719
Speaker 4: Ceedee lamb nonexistent. And everything we said about the Cowboys

1530
01:10:11,720 --> 01:10:13,960
Speaker 4: going into week one was true. They can't run the football.

1531
01:10:14,280 --> 01:10:18,519
Speaker 4: They are one dimensional, and yet we got smoked by them,

1532
01:10:18,560 --> 01:10:20,479
Speaker 4: which is crazy.

1533
01:10:20,560 --> 01:10:24,000
Speaker 3: Him sitting out. Oh yeah, he's not the same thing.

1534
01:10:24,040 --> 01:10:28,479
Speaker 3: He's not the same right now. No up next, by.

1535
01:10:28,360 --> 01:10:31,320
Speaker 4: The way, Kyle van Nui, can I just say we

1536
01:10:31,439 --> 01:10:34,439
Speaker 4: as a week one fractures is orbital bone?

1537
01:10:34,600 --> 01:10:34,720
Speaker 5: Yes?

1538
01:10:34,840 --> 01:10:38,960
Speaker 3: He playing immediately in two seconds? Week what a stud?

1539
01:10:40,400 --> 01:10:40,519
Speaker 5: Uh?

1540
01:10:40,880 --> 01:10:41,360
Speaker 3: Up next?

1541
01:10:41,439 --> 01:10:43,640
Speaker 5: It was basically a forty nine Ers home game at

1542
01:10:43,680 --> 01:10:44,280
Speaker 5: Sofi Stad.

1543
01:10:44,439 --> 01:10:45,679
Speaker 3: My god, that picture is nuts.

1544
01:10:45,760 --> 01:10:48,840
Speaker 5: It was crazy already, but the Rams find a way

1545
01:10:48,880 --> 01:10:53,080
Speaker 5: to get it done under McVeigh. Twenty seven four Los

1546
01:10:53,120 --> 01:10:54,160
Speaker 5: Angeles with the wins.

1547
01:10:54,160 --> 01:10:59,400
Speaker 4: The girl one thought, uh bad loss for the Niners,

1548
01:10:59,439 --> 01:11:01,400
Speaker 4: and yes they are without a bunch of people, and

1549
01:11:01,400 --> 01:11:02,280
Speaker 4: it keeps getting worse.

1550
01:11:02,320 --> 01:11:03,840
Speaker 3: Hard Grave now is done for the year.

1551
01:11:05,439 --> 01:11:10,920
Speaker 4: Perdy is awesome, but just the Rams fight, the fact

1552
01:11:10,960 --> 01:11:13,960
Speaker 4: that you know Stafford did. Tyron Williams is a beast

1553
01:11:14,040 --> 01:11:17,120
Speaker 4: whenever they get near the goal line to overcome Perdy

1554
01:11:17,120 --> 01:11:19,120
Speaker 4: going twenty two for thirty for two ninety two and

1555
01:11:19,160 --> 01:11:21,639
Speaker 4: three no picks, running for forty one. And he had

1556
01:11:21,680 --> 01:11:23,920
Speaker 4: six drops in this game, which is crazy, two of

1557
01:11:23,920 --> 01:11:27,439
Speaker 4: them by Ronnie Bell. He really didn't throw any and

1558
01:11:27,439 --> 01:11:29,800
Speaker 4: they won the game. It's it's it's an un.

1559
01:11:29,840 --> 01:11:31,639
Speaker 2: They were down fourteen to nothing and won the game.

1560
01:11:31,840 --> 01:11:33,360
Speaker 3: It's unreal that they won this game.

1561
01:11:33,800 --> 01:11:37,160
Speaker 2: I thought this was headed to slumptown, yes, and they

1562
01:11:37,200 --> 01:11:39,360
Speaker 2: came back. Stafford's a warrior.

1563
01:11:40,200 --> 01:11:41,000
Speaker 3: I'm gonna tell you what.

1564
01:11:42,400 --> 01:11:50,160
Speaker 2: When you start hearing Germany for platelet spinning procedures, not good.

1565
01:11:50,320 --> 01:11:50,880
Speaker 5: Not good.

1566
01:11:51,000 --> 01:11:53,080
Speaker 2: And so that means that the top two picks in

1567
01:11:53,160 --> 01:11:57,000
Speaker 2: fantasy football this year, which were CD and McCaffrey. CD

1568
01:11:57,160 --> 01:11:59,200
Speaker 2: is off to a terribly slow start and I don't

1569
01:11:59,200 --> 01:12:01,840
Speaker 2: know if mcaffre's going to play. Who knows, Like Kyle

1570
01:12:01,920 --> 01:12:04,920
Speaker 2: said today or yesterday, we don't know when he'll be back.

1571
01:12:05,000 --> 01:12:07,280
Speaker 4: It's indefinite. We have no idea, and that's why I

1572
01:12:07,400 --> 01:12:09,360
Speaker 4: think that that's a mess. I do think that you

1573
01:12:09,520 --> 01:12:11,719
Speaker 4: owe something to the good people of this world.

1574
01:12:12,560 --> 01:12:13,960
Speaker 3: You gotta be honest. You've got it.

1575
01:12:14,040 --> 01:12:17,080
Speaker 2: You ow where you are physically. And they couldn't have been.

1576
01:12:17,200 --> 01:12:19,200
Speaker 5: Take it up with your boy. You could text him, Yeah.

1577
01:12:19,200 --> 01:12:22,080
Speaker 3: They couldn't have been. This could also This could also be.

1578
01:12:22,760 --> 01:12:25,640
Speaker 2: This might just be the year where the Niners are

1579
01:12:25,720 --> 01:12:28,840
Speaker 2: that team that is snake bit injury wise. I mean

1580
01:12:28,880 --> 01:12:31,080
Speaker 2: the Rams are snake bit, we're snake bit, but the

1581
01:12:31,160 --> 01:12:33,759
Speaker 2: Niners are and it just sometimes it's too much to overcome.

1582
01:12:35,240 --> 01:12:39,000
Speaker 5: Uh. Next up, little, I would say surprising. The Cardinals

1583
01:12:39,080 --> 01:12:40,840
Speaker 5: held their own here for a little while before the

1584
01:12:41,040 --> 01:12:45,760
Speaker 5: Leons finally got them. Detroit twenty Cardinals thirteen.

1585
01:12:45,920 --> 01:12:49,080
Speaker 2: Bishop one thought Cardinals are frisky. I love what Petsick's

1586
01:12:49,080 --> 01:12:51,479
Speaker 2: doing with them offensively. They play good defense as well.

1587
01:12:51,800 --> 01:12:56,400
Speaker 2: They're a fun team. Kyler's dangerous. The other thing here, though,

1588
01:12:56,520 --> 01:12:58,960
Speaker 2: is Goff is wildly reckless with the ball to start

1589
01:12:59,000 --> 01:13:03,800
Speaker 2: the year. Four picks and pick six that was taken off.

1590
01:13:03,880 --> 01:13:06,840
Speaker 2: So he's not doing what he did, which is protecting

1591
01:13:07,280 --> 01:13:08,280
Speaker 2: the football.

1592
01:13:08,120 --> 01:13:09,360
Speaker 1: And that's a problem.

1593
01:13:10,760 --> 01:13:15,120
Speaker 5: Uh Final one Sunday Night foosball the Chiefs twenty two

1594
01:13:15,960 --> 01:13:19,200
Speaker 5: Falcons seventeen. Chiefs remain undefeated.

1595
01:13:19,640 --> 01:13:21,120
Speaker 4: I did think if you would have told me that

1596
01:13:21,320 --> 01:13:23,160
Speaker 4: in a few years a few years ago, if you

1597
01:13:23,200 --> 01:13:24,840
Speaker 4: would have told me of something that, I would have said,

1598
01:13:26,400 --> 01:13:28,880
Speaker 4: I think Chiefs are kind of boring to watch. It's

1599
01:13:28,920 --> 01:13:30,640
Speaker 4: a bit they're not. They're not a fun team to

1600
01:13:30,680 --> 01:13:34,200
Speaker 4: watch play football. Right now, Rashi Rice is good. Kelsey

1601
01:13:34,320 --> 01:13:37,040
Speaker 4: looks disinterested and old, and.

1602
01:13:38,680 --> 01:13:41,080
Speaker 2: He looks like he's spared the summer traveling with the

1603
01:13:41,160 --> 01:13:42,000
Speaker 2: most famous.

1604
01:13:41,720 --> 01:13:42,439
Speaker 5: Women in the world.

1605
01:13:42,720 --> 01:13:47,960
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, and doing ads and and he is not himself,

1606
01:13:48,080 --> 01:13:48,880
Speaker 3: not locked at all.

1607
01:13:49,040 --> 01:13:52,280
Speaker 2: No, no, And here's the thing with them, though, You're right,

1608
01:13:52,439 --> 01:13:55,640
Speaker 2: they're not a fun watch. Dynamic mahomes is in the

1609
01:13:55,720 --> 01:13:58,120
Speaker 2: middle of the league and most of the passing statistics,

1610
01:13:58,520 --> 01:14:00,640
Speaker 2: but they're three and ozho and they're win despite it.

1611
01:14:00,720 --> 01:14:03,960
Speaker 2: They have no run game, none none. They really have

1612
01:14:04,120 --> 01:14:06,519
Speaker 2: one reliable threat, Rashi Rice.

1613
01:14:06,840 --> 01:14:07,120
Speaker 3: That's it.

1614
01:14:07,479 --> 01:14:09,720
Speaker 2: They don't have another thing that they can count on offensively,

1615
01:14:09,880 --> 01:14:10,920
Speaker 2: ye other than Rice.

1616
01:14:12,720 --> 01:14:16,320
Speaker 3: Three and oh they I mean they could easily be

1617
01:14:16,400 --> 01:14:16,840
Speaker 3: owing three.

1618
01:14:17,000 --> 01:14:19,120
Speaker 5: They could be. They scored the second most points of

1619
01:14:19,160 --> 01:14:20,040
Speaker 5: any team in the AFC.

1620
01:14:20,400 --> 01:14:24,320
Speaker 4: If you're talking against you're talking about a tow against Baltimore,

1621
01:14:24,640 --> 01:14:27,280
Speaker 4: you're talking about a pass interference call the Falcons PI,

1622
01:14:27,400 --> 01:14:30,320
Speaker 4: and then the Falcons a pastor offense that was called

1623
01:14:30,320 --> 01:14:32,479
Speaker 4: against Cincinnati, and then one that was not called against

1624
01:14:32,520 --> 01:14:33,120
Speaker 4: them in Atlanta.

1625
01:14:33,120 --> 01:14:34,320
Speaker 3: They could be owing three yeah.

1626
01:14:34,600 --> 01:14:37,439
Speaker 2: Instead they're three and oh, and you have to assume

1627
01:14:37,479 --> 01:14:39,880
Speaker 2: they'll get better as this thing all goes along.

1628
01:14:39,960 --> 01:14:42,360
Speaker 4: Why do you guys think that Mike Tomlin is refusing

1629
01:14:42,400 --> 01:14:44,560
Speaker 4: to name Justin Fields a starter and saying things like,

1630
01:14:44,920 --> 01:14:45,920
Speaker 4: we don't need a name of the starter.

1631
01:14:45,920 --> 01:14:47,920
Speaker 2: There's no Because this is my theory. I have no

1632
01:14:48,280 --> 01:14:51,200
Speaker 2: way of backing this up, because I think Tomlin's kind

1633
01:14:51,240 --> 01:14:53,559
Speaker 2: of thing is you don't lose your job.

1634
01:14:53,439 --> 01:14:57,080
Speaker 3: To injury and so, and he promised Rusts and he

1635
01:14:57,200 --> 01:15:00,479
Speaker 3: promised them the job. So I think he's a man

1636
01:15:00,520 --> 01:15:02,160
Speaker 3: of his word. But I think he I don't know

1637
01:15:02,240 --> 01:15:02,839
Speaker 3: what happens.

1638
01:15:03,600 --> 01:15:05,080
Speaker 2: I don't know how to handle it, and they may

1639
01:15:05,120 --> 01:15:08,080
Speaker 2: have to trade ross way out Miami.

1640
01:15:08,160 --> 01:15:09,200
Speaker 3: Might be that I don't know.

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Speaker 2: joining us. You've been around the league a long time, buddy. Yeah,

1662
01:16:19,640 --> 01:16:24,280
Speaker 2: you people folks out, Folks out, you know, the NFL

1663
01:16:24,960 --> 01:16:29,719
Speaker 2: is an incredible television sport, right It's it's it's perfect

1664
01:16:29,760 --> 01:16:32,479
Speaker 2: for that. It's a perfect sports stock radio sport because

1665
01:16:32,560 --> 01:16:34,320
Speaker 2: we have one game that we can talk about all week.

1666
01:16:34,800 --> 01:16:37,519
Speaker 2: But the reality is is another one's coming pretty quick.

1667
01:16:37,560 --> 01:16:40,519
Speaker 2: For you when you've been through kind of where we're

1668
01:16:40,600 --> 01:16:43,280
Speaker 2: going through right now in your career, how do you

1669
01:16:43,439 --> 01:16:46,559
Speaker 2: keep clear head? How do you understand it's just one

1670
01:16:46,640 --> 01:16:48,800
Speaker 2: we got another one coming and the eye on the

1671
01:16:48,840 --> 01:16:49,760
Speaker 2: prize stays the same.

1672
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Speaker 12: Yeah, I think it's it's it's all about the team.

1673
01:16:53,840 --> 01:16:57,000
Speaker 13: And I think when we first set out, you know,

1674
01:16:57,120 --> 01:17:01,840
Speaker 13: one of our core values is connecting and brotherhood, and

1675
01:17:02,680 --> 01:17:05,920
Speaker 13: you know, when you go through these sort of storms,

1676
01:17:06,120 --> 01:17:09,320
Speaker 13: I guess you would say it's important that you really

1677
01:17:09,479 --> 01:17:13,280
Speaker 13: rely on that foundation and what you built to be

1678
01:17:13,400 --> 01:17:18,519
Speaker 13: able to withstand all of the the the the turmo

1679
01:17:18,760 --> 01:17:24,759
Speaker 13: and external you know, voices and whatever else is occurring.

1680
01:17:25,320 --> 01:17:27,760
Speaker 3: You really rely on that to really get you through.

1681
01:17:28,200 --> 01:17:31,280
Speaker 13: And that's what's most important, is that we don't start

1682
01:17:31,360 --> 01:17:35,559
Speaker 13: to look to the other side and point the blame.

1683
01:17:35,880 --> 01:17:38,840
Speaker 13: It's you know, we're in this together. It's always us,

1684
01:17:39,439 --> 01:17:41,960
Speaker 13: and it's going to take us to get us out.

1685
01:17:42,520 --> 01:17:46,320
Speaker 13: Of what we're going through right now, and and quite frankly,

1686
01:17:46,479 --> 01:17:49,360
Speaker 13: every even the Super Bowl champions, you're gonna have some

1687
01:17:49,479 --> 01:17:52,800
Speaker 13: crisis that that hit, and you're gonna have to be

1688
01:17:52,920 --> 01:17:56,840
Speaker 13: able to ensure that that rock, that foundation is solid enough,

1689
01:17:56,880 --> 01:17:59,000
Speaker 13: because there will be some things that will try to

1690
01:17:59,040 --> 01:18:03,400
Speaker 13: pierce it. But it is those who respond well that

1691
01:18:03,600 --> 01:18:07,560
Speaker 13: stick together through it and handle that accordingly are the

1692
01:18:07,640 --> 01:18:11,080
Speaker 13: ones that ultimately persevere and wind up where we're autimately

1693
01:18:11,120 --> 01:18:11,680
Speaker 13: trying to get to.

1694
01:18:11,920 --> 01:18:14,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, which is getting wins, getting in the playoffs and

1695
01:18:14,280 --> 01:18:16,439
Speaker 4: then going after that Lombardi Trophy of something that you

1696
01:18:16,560 --> 01:18:20,040
Speaker 4: hoisted back in twenty seventeen with the Philadelphia Eagles. That

1697
01:18:20,120 --> 01:18:22,200
Speaker 4: was a season certainly that had adversities. You guys, lost

1698
01:18:22,240 --> 01:18:24,920
Speaker 4: the MVP candidate and you're starting quarterback late and then

1699
01:18:24,960 --> 01:18:27,600
Speaker 4: Nick Foles comes in and it's a magical run to

1700
01:18:27,840 --> 01:18:30,479
Speaker 4: that Super Bowl. Let me ask you, you know, from

1701
01:18:30,800 --> 01:18:33,479
Speaker 4: when you watch the defense this year, third down numbers

1702
01:18:33,479 --> 01:18:36,320
Speaker 4: are same as historically good. This year offenses are struggle

1703
01:18:36,320 --> 01:18:38,360
Speaker 4: a little more. It's kind of still top of the league,

1704
01:18:39,280 --> 01:18:41,280
Speaker 4: but it's been odd. You guys, it feels like either

1705
01:18:41,640 --> 01:18:43,960
Speaker 4: three and out and then there have been some very

1706
01:18:44,080 --> 01:18:47,120
Speaker 4: long touchdown drives which have been uncharacteristic for this defense.

1707
01:18:47,120 --> 01:18:48,679
Speaker 4: When you guys have gone in and kind of watch

1708
01:18:48,760 --> 01:18:51,680
Speaker 4: it and digest it, what has it been, because it

1709
01:18:51,720 --> 01:18:53,640
Speaker 4: feels like it's been a few kind of situations of

1710
01:18:53,720 --> 01:18:56,280
Speaker 4: death by a thousand cuts and then other times it's

1711
01:18:56,400 --> 01:18:58,240
Speaker 4: like nobody can move the ball against you.

1712
01:18:58,360 --> 01:19:00,639
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a tell two tapes.

1713
01:19:01,120 --> 01:19:01,280
Speaker 5: You know.

1714
01:19:01,720 --> 01:19:05,960
Speaker 13: You see one side of it where we're dominant, you know,

1715
01:19:06,080 --> 01:19:09,080
Speaker 13: pretty much unstoppable, and then you have the other where

1716
01:19:09,560 --> 01:19:13,680
Speaker 13: there's lapses and and a lot of inconsistency. And so

1717
01:19:13,840 --> 01:19:16,960
Speaker 13: that's what we're fighting right now, is for consistency throughout

1718
01:19:17,120 --> 01:19:20,040
Speaker 13: because put a you know, we've seen if we put

1719
01:19:20,080 --> 01:19:23,920
Speaker 13: a full you know, bodies, a full game together, then

1720
01:19:24,400 --> 01:19:27,200
Speaker 13: you know we're gonna play our style of defense and

1721
01:19:28,120 --> 01:19:30,680
Speaker 13: more than likely that's going to translate into a win

1722
01:19:30,840 --> 01:19:33,599
Speaker 13: for us. We talk about setting the pace, and that's

1723
01:19:33,640 --> 01:19:36,920
Speaker 13: our that's our job, you know, regardless of what happens,

1724
01:19:37,760 --> 01:19:41,720
Speaker 13: whatever situation that we're dealt, we have to respond the

1725
01:19:41,840 --> 01:19:44,519
Speaker 13: right way, and we have to do what's act of

1726
01:19:44,640 --> 01:19:48,280
Speaker 13: us and and honestly play to the level of our standards.

1727
01:19:48,960 --> 01:19:51,479
Speaker 2: Let's for the folks out there listening folks here at

1728
01:19:51,520 --> 01:19:53,000
Speaker 2: the at the basement burn Twinsburg.

1729
01:19:53,120 --> 01:19:54,439
Speaker 3: Let's take the game against the Giants.

1730
01:19:54,880 --> 01:19:59,280
Speaker 2: So first half they have two long drives, we give

1731
01:19:59,360 --> 01:20:02,120
Speaker 2: up three touch downs. Yeah, and man, what's going shortfield?

1732
01:20:02,200 --> 01:20:04,840
Speaker 2: One on a shortfield, but two long drives. And then

1733
01:20:04,920 --> 01:20:07,479
Speaker 2: the second half it looks like a different defense. So

1734
01:20:07,760 --> 01:20:10,680
Speaker 2: what happened in that locker room? What changed for you

1735
01:20:10,840 --> 01:20:13,360
Speaker 2: guys in the second half that allowed for the type

1736
01:20:13,400 --> 01:20:15,960
Speaker 2: of success You consistently got them off the field and

1737
01:20:16,080 --> 01:20:17,519
Speaker 2: gave the offense a lot of opportunities in.

1738
01:20:17,520 --> 01:20:18,000
Speaker 3: The fourth quarter.

1739
01:20:18,160 --> 01:20:21,960
Speaker 13: Yeah, honestly, we just made some schematic adjustments, you know,

1740
01:20:22,120 --> 01:20:25,000
Speaker 13: went back to just our bread and butter, you know,

1741
01:20:25,120 --> 01:20:28,120
Speaker 13: our identity. We're gonna rush and we're gonna play you

1742
01:20:28,200 --> 01:20:29,679
Speaker 13: and man and man, we go get to your face

1743
01:20:29,760 --> 01:20:32,759
Speaker 13: and challenge you, and we're not gonna leave much space

1744
01:20:33,240 --> 01:20:35,600
Speaker 13: and we're just gonna smother you. And then you know,

1745
01:20:35,880 --> 01:20:40,200
Speaker 13: see who's gonna come out with the win? And Gosh

1746
01:20:40,320 --> 01:20:42,559
Speaker 13: just made up their mind that we wouldn't be denied

1747
01:20:42,640 --> 01:20:48,400
Speaker 13: and we're going to contribute to us rallying and hopefully

1748
01:20:48,439 --> 01:20:51,479
Speaker 13: giving our our team a chance. And so that was

1749
01:20:51,520 --> 01:20:55,000
Speaker 13: the challenge that Schwartz set out for us. We accepted

1750
01:20:55,040 --> 01:20:57,280
Speaker 13: that challenge, and you know, we gave our our team

1751
01:20:57,320 --> 01:20:57,920
Speaker 13: a chance to win.

1752
01:20:58,760 --> 01:21:01,680
Speaker 3: As a veteran like you are. You mentioned thirteenth year

1753
01:21:01,760 --> 01:21:02,559
Speaker 3: out of Virginia.

1754
01:21:04,000 --> 01:21:06,880
Speaker 4: What's kind of your routine for the week, Because you've

1755
01:21:06,920 --> 01:21:09,880
Speaker 4: got game Sunday Monday. I'm sure you got meetings. You

1756
01:21:09,920 --> 01:21:11,720
Speaker 4: guys are breaking down the tape, going through all that.

1757
01:21:11,840 --> 01:21:13,680
Speaker 4: How do you kind of approach Tuesday? When do you

1758
01:21:13,760 --> 01:21:15,920
Speaker 4: start really diving into your next pone? What's kind of

1759
01:21:15,960 --> 01:21:17,880
Speaker 4: the way that you like to operate now that you

1760
01:21:17,960 --> 01:21:19,920
Speaker 4: found is the best free not only your body but

1761
01:21:20,080 --> 01:21:21,920
Speaker 4: your your mind to be ready on a Sunday.

1762
01:21:22,040 --> 01:21:24,479
Speaker 13: Yeah, recovery at this point is definitely that the FORFN

1763
01:21:25,520 --> 01:21:28,720
Speaker 13: you're thirteen, you can't take I can't take a take

1764
01:21:28,760 --> 01:21:31,760
Speaker 13: off when it comes to that. So you know, I

1765
01:21:31,840 --> 01:21:36,080
Speaker 13: have my recovery routine, whether it's koltas, whether it's massage.

1766
01:21:37,960 --> 01:21:41,880
Speaker 12: You know, needles, you name it, like I do it now.

1767
01:21:42,360 --> 01:21:45,240
Speaker 13: And then you have all right now you're into you know,

1768
01:21:45,479 --> 01:21:48,040
Speaker 13: game prep and the tape, and so I like to

1769
01:21:48,600 --> 01:21:50,879
Speaker 13: try to put on while I'm watching Monday night football

1770
01:21:51,840 --> 01:21:54,840
Speaker 13: and holding my my my newborn baby I'm.

1771
01:21:54,760 --> 01:21:57,840
Speaker 12: Also yeah, thank you. I'm also appreciated, appreciate it.

1772
01:21:57,960 --> 01:22:01,240
Speaker 13: I'm also looking at you know, and for me, I

1773
01:22:01,400 --> 01:22:03,400
Speaker 13: like to just turn the game on, turn that last

1774
01:22:03,479 --> 01:22:06,080
Speaker 13: game on game or two, get a flow, for get

1775
01:22:06,080 --> 01:22:08,680
Speaker 13: a style for you know, the team at hand, and

1776
01:22:08,720 --> 01:22:10,720
Speaker 13: then I'm into the into the work week. You know,

1777
01:22:10,840 --> 01:22:15,360
Speaker 13: tonight is first second down preparation, Tomorrow will be third down,

1778
01:22:15,640 --> 01:22:18,639
Speaker 13: and then you know red zone and obviously I'm i'm

1779
01:22:19,080 --> 01:22:21,920
Speaker 13: I'm looking at tape trying to get tendencies.

1780
01:22:22,560 --> 01:22:24,559
Speaker 12: Then you know, the coaches obviously are.

1781
01:22:24,520 --> 01:22:27,479
Speaker 13: Pouring on and giving us a report as well, and

1782
01:22:27,760 --> 01:22:30,720
Speaker 13: you're just digesting a lot of information. And so by

1783
01:22:30,800 --> 01:22:32,960
Speaker 13: the end of the week, I hope to now turn

1784
01:22:33,080 --> 01:22:35,639
Speaker 13: that same game on from last week or the game before,

1785
01:22:36,280 --> 01:22:40,560
Speaker 13: and really take myself through what Sunday is going is

1786
01:22:40,640 --> 01:22:42,640
Speaker 13: going to be like, like I now have, Okay, what

1787
01:22:42,720 --> 01:22:44,040
Speaker 13: are we gonna run on first second down?

1788
01:22:44,040 --> 01:22:44,720
Speaker 12: What's third down?

1789
01:22:45,120 --> 01:22:47,720
Speaker 13: And I'm going through that mode of as if I'm

1790
01:22:47,800 --> 01:22:50,960
Speaker 13: in the game myself, so that when Sunday comes, you know,

1791
01:22:51,040 --> 01:22:54,080
Speaker 13: it's easy. I've already played the game several times by now,

1792
01:22:54,360 --> 01:22:57,320
Speaker 13: to be honest, and I'm hoping that that can translate

1793
01:22:57,360 --> 01:22:58,479
Speaker 13: into me making more plays.

1794
01:22:59,760 --> 01:23:01,400
Speaker 3: That is very cool.

1795
01:23:01,439 --> 01:23:04,000
Speaker 4: I actually I love kind of hearing the what actually

1796
01:23:04,000 --> 01:23:06,320
Speaker 4: goes into I don't know people realize how much goes

1797
01:23:06,400 --> 01:23:08,880
Speaker 4: into the chess match before you actually are even on.

1798
01:23:09,040 --> 01:23:10,479
Speaker 3: The field on a Sunday.

1799
01:23:10,520 --> 01:23:12,519
Speaker 4: So in a situation like this, last year we played

1800
01:23:12,560 --> 01:23:17,120
Speaker 4: Gardner Minshew mm hmm in Indianapolis. Yeah, we played the

1801
01:23:17,200 --> 01:23:19,040
Speaker 4: Bears late in the season. I think you may have

1802
01:23:19,080 --> 01:23:21,320
Speaker 4: been hurt by that point. Unfortunately we played the Bears,

1803
01:23:21,360 --> 01:23:23,080
Speaker 4: and the play caller now for the Raiders was with

1804
01:23:23,160 --> 01:23:25,439
Speaker 4: the Bear. So how much do you watch of this

1805
01:23:25,600 --> 01:23:28,040
Speaker 4: year's Raiders and then how much you take away from Okay, well,

1806
01:23:28,080 --> 01:23:28,879
Speaker 4: i played Minshew.

1807
01:23:28,960 --> 01:23:30,600
Speaker 3: I know that this is what he likes to do.

1808
01:23:31,040 --> 01:23:33,400
Speaker 4: This is how gets he ran things. Obviously probably a

1809
01:23:33,400 --> 01:23:35,559
Speaker 4: little different with justin fields in Chicago, but now here

1810
01:23:35,640 --> 01:23:37,519
Speaker 4: we are in vague. So how much where are you?

1811
01:23:37,680 --> 01:23:39,800
Speaker 4: How much are you drawing from the different places and

1812
01:23:39,880 --> 01:23:41,599
Speaker 4: data points to try to get that full picture?

1813
01:23:41,720 --> 01:23:44,360
Speaker 13: Yeah, I think it's important that you definitely have to

1814
01:23:44,520 --> 01:23:48,559
Speaker 13: go back in time, especially if it's as current as

1815
01:23:48,680 --> 01:23:52,720
Speaker 13: last year, to really see how did they try to

1816
01:23:53,280 --> 01:23:57,400
Speaker 13: attack you know, our defense. Especially as a coordinator, you know,

1817
01:23:57,760 --> 01:24:01,679
Speaker 13: most coordinators, they're going to stick to their general script.

1818
01:24:02,000 --> 01:24:04,880
Speaker 13: And I think all you're seeing you're trying to identify

1819
01:24:05,000 --> 01:24:09,760
Speaker 13: whether there is carryover between what he ran with the

1820
01:24:09,840 --> 01:24:13,320
Speaker 13: Bears and what they're currently doing with the Raiders.

1821
01:24:13,600 --> 01:24:15,520
Speaker 12: And you can easily insert.

1822
01:24:15,600 --> 01:24:18,640
Speaker 13: Certain guys in Okay, they had Mooney last year, this

1823
01:24:18,800 --> 01:24:22,120
Speaker 13: is now this receiver for the Raiders, right, because it's

1824
01:24:22,120 --> 01:24:24,880
Speaker 13: all about just location. So you will take a look

1825
01:24:24,880 --> 01:24:27,439
Speaker 13: at that, and then Garner minshew, that is just okay,

1826
01:24:27,520 --> 01:24:30,599
Speaker 13: who is he as a quarterback? And you know versus

1827
01:24:30,680 --> 01:24:33,800
Speaker 13: our front, you know, how did he how did he

1828
01:24:33,880 --> 01:24:36,599
Speaker 13: look versus pressure? Like is he a stare down type

1829
01:24:36,640 --> 01:24:38,840
Speaker 13: of guy? Did he have you know, the opportunity to

1830
01:24:38,920 --> 01:24:41,639
Speaker 13: look off and go here, and you try to pair

1831
01:24:41,680 --> 01:24:43,519
Speaker 13: it with what he's doing now with the Raiders. So

1832
01:24:43,880 --> 01:24:46,920
Speaker 13: that is, you know, valuable information that we do go

1833
01:24:47,080 --> 01:24:49,880
Speaker 13: back and we look, we study just to make sure

1834
01:24:49,960 --> 01:24:52,880
Speaker 13: that we are crossing off everything right because at the

1835
01:24:52,920 --> 01:24:54,720
Speaker 13: end the day, you want to win. You can't leave

1836
01:24:54,880 --> 01:24:58,479
Speaker 13: no stone unturned, and you know you'll be a fool

1837
01:24:58,479 --> 01:25:00,040
Speaker 13: if you didn't to that end.

1838
01:25:00,080 --> 01:25:02,240
Speaker 4: How have you seen in your thirteen years in the league?

1839
01:25:02,960 --> 01:25:06,000
Speaker 4: Video from a team standpoint right, what they give you

1840
01:25:06,200 --> 01:25:06,800
Speaker 4: access to.

1841
01:25:07,040 --> 01:25:07,960
Speaker 3: How is that evolved?

1842
01:25:07,960 --> 01:25:09,240
Speaker 4: Because I know you can get cut ups and I

1843
01:25:09,280 --> 01:25:10,760
Speaker 4: guarantee if I were to go into the folder that

1844
01:25:10,880 --> 01:25:13,000
Speaker 4: was this week's game, there's gonna be the GETSI stuff

1845
01:25:13,000 --> 01:25:15,160
Speaker 4: from Chicago, There's gonna be the game last year with Minshew,

1846
01:25:15,320 --> 01:25:16,240
Speaker 4: There's gonna be all of it.

1847
01:25:16,520 --> 01:25:18,000
Speaker 3: How has that even evolved in the league.

1848
01:25:18,160 --> 01:25:19,960
Speaker 12: Yeah, it's I mean it's evolved tremendously.

1849
01:25:20,360 --> 01:25:25,879
Speaker 13: You know, you have the capabilities of getting gaining access

1850
01:25:25,920 --> 01:25:28,880
Speaker 13: to whatever you want. I mean you can narrow it

1851
01:25:29,040 --> 01:25:33,880
Speaker 13: down to you know, targets by yardage. You know, it's

1852
01:25:34,040 --> 01:25:37,719
Speaker 13: that it's that extreme and that's the level that it takes,

1853
01:25:37,880 --> 01:25:39,280
Speaker 13: you know, when you want to win in this league.

1854
01:25:39,640 --> 01:25:41,200
Speaker 13: You know a lot of people like you talked about,

1855
01:25:41,400 --> 01:25:45,200
Speaker 13: only see the results on Sunday. But the level of

1856
01:25:45,600 --> 01:25:50,439
Speaker 13: prep that goes into a week, you know, just before

1857
01:25:50,520 --> 01:25:53,120
Speaker 13: you even get to Sunday is like, I don't even

1858
01:25:53,160 --> 01:25:54,360
Speaker 13: know how many hours.

1859
01:25:54,160 --> 01:25:56,160
Speaker 12: You know, it's it's unlogged hours pretty much.

1860
01:25:56,400 --> 01:25:58,680
Speaker 13: I would say that goes into it on top of

1861
01:25:59,320 --> 01:26:01,559
Speaker 13: you know, the work that you put in on the field,

1862
01:26:01,680 --> 01:26:04,960
Speaker 13: But the mental is the is the piece that is

1863
01:26:05,680 --> 01:26:09,840
Speaker 13: often overlooked because you have all of this information now,

1864
01:26:10,000 --> 01:26:12,240
Speaker 13: just spoke about we look at all this film study

1865
01:26:12,439 --> 01:26:17,680
Speaker 13: and you're giving short of twenty seconds to process what

1866
01:26:18,360 --> 01:26:21,600
Speaker 13: this team has just lined up in. How do I

1867
01:26:21,960 --> 01:26:26,840
Speaker 13: like now download that, get the information, try to lock

1868
01:26:26,920 --> 01:26:30,920
Speaker 13: in and recite it from somewhere along my brain and

1869
01:26:31,080 --> 01:26:34,599
Speaker 13: then it's said, hut, and you got six seconds of action.

1870
01:26:34,760 --> 01:26:34,960
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1871
01:26:35,000 --> 01:26:37,160
Speaker 3: Sometimes they know that you know what you know a

1872
01:26:37,200 --> 01:26:39,480
Speaker 3: lot they're going to try to say, oh, this looks.

1873
01:26:39,320 --> 01:26:41,680
Speaker 12: Like this, Yeah, a lot of critical thinking going on.

1874
01:26:41,960 --> 01:26:43,920
Speaker 3: You had a very short period of time. Yeah, how

1875
01:26:44,000 --> 01:26:46,559
Speaker 3: do you wrap I mean, thirteen years in the league?

1876
01:26:46,680 --> 01:26:46,840
Speaker 6: Man?

1877
01:26:48,120 --> 01:26:49,400
Speaker 3: How do you wrap around that?

1878
01:26:49,560 --> 01:26:52,200
Speaker 2: I mean, like there, it's so rare. You think of

1879
01:26:52,240 --> 01:26:53,640
Speaker 2: all the guys you came up with. You and I

1880
01:26:53,720 --> 01:26:55,960
Speaker 2: were talking off their before we started. You came up

1881
01:26:56,040 --> 01:26:58,120
Speaker 2: like that's Lauren, I just said, long and those guys

1882
01:26:58,200 --> 01:27:01,000
Speaker 2: in Saint Louis, that's who you come up when you

1883
01:27:01,280 --> 01:27:03,800
Speaker 2: put yourself back in the shoes of that twenty two

1884
01:27:03,880 --> 01:27:04,479
Speaker 2: year old kid.

1885
01:27:04,640 --> 01:27:06,679
Speaker 3: Did he ever think that this was possible?

1886
01:27:06,760 --> 01:27:11,000
Speaker 2: That thirteen years in the league, Now that's an accomplishment.

1887
01:27:10,439 --> 01:27:14,120
Speaker 13: Buddy, man, I know, and I often don't get a

1888
01:27:14,240 --> 01:27:16,640
Speaker 13: chance to reflect you know, because I just try to

1889
01:27:16,640 --> 01:27:22,599
Speaker 13: stay in the moment. But yeah, it's honestly been, man,

1890
01:27:22,880 --> 01:27:27,000
Speaker 13: a privilege. And did I see myself thirteen years of

1891
01:27:27,080 --> 01:27:29,040
Speaker 13: the game. No, I like at that point, I was

1892
01:27:29,120 --> 01:27:31,360
Speaker 13: just trying to fight, Yeah, to make it one year

1893
01:27:31,400 --> 01:27:34,240
Speaker 13: in the league as an undrafted rookie and then to

1894
01:27:34,920 --> 01:27:37,680
Speaker 13: wind up starting for ten or eleven years out of

1895
01:27:37,760 --> 01:27:41,280
Speaker 13: thirteen and having a Super Bowl ring, and you know

1896
01:27:41,360 --> 01:27:43,479
Speaker 13: a lot of friends to go along with it, brothers

1897
01:27:44,439 --> 01:27:46,160
Speaker 13: that I still can call on to today.

1898
01:27:47,479 --> 01:27:48,599
Speaker 12: Man, it's a blessing.

1899
01:27:48,880 --> 01:27:51,360
Speaker 2: People out there don't realize how hard the undrafted free

1900
01:27:51,360 --> 01:27:55,040
Speaker 2: agent part of that is because NFL teams give priority

1901
01:27:55,200 --> 01:27:58,800
Speaker 2: in reps in camp to guys they draft. Yeah, guys

1902
01:27:58,840 --> 01:28:00,960
Speaker 2: they draft that year, guys they drafted next year. So

1903
01:28:01,120 --> 01:28:03,720
Speaker 2: to be an undrafted free agent, you have to be

1904
01:28:03,920 --> 01:28:08,040
Speaker 2: so far and above everybody else. So I was looking, right,

1905
01:28:08,120 --> 01:28:09,519
Speaker 2: that's tough there are.

1906
01:28:09,920 --> 01:28:12,160
Speaker 13: That's why I signed all those you know, photos out

1907
01:28:12,200 --> 01:28:15,840
Speaker 13: there are not given, man, because every year, that's what

1908
01:28:16,040 --> 01:28:16,720
Speaker 13: That's what it took.

1909
01:28:17,160 --> 01:28:21,880
Speaker 4: There are twenty players who were drafted of the two

1910
01:28:21,960 --> 01:28:24,320
Speaker 4: hundred and fifty three that were drafted in the twenty

1911
01:28:24,400 --> 01:28:27,479
Speaker 4: twelve drafts, and they're still in the league, and a

1912
01:28:27,520 --> 01:28:30,240
Speaker 4: good number of them are specialists, and very few of

1913
01:28:30,280 --> 01:28:33,960
Speaker 4: them are still playing playing at this point in the career.

1914
01:28:34,400 --> 01:28:37,600
Speaker 13: I know Harrison Smith in the safety position, yeah, I know,

1915
01:28:37,880 --> 01:28:40,840
Speaker 13: my god, Johnny Hecker and Greg's areline because we all

1916
01:28:40,920 --> 01:28:42,400
Speaker 13: want to sign team together.

1917
01:28:42,400 --> 01:28:43,360
Speaker 12: Far as specialists go.

1918
01:28:44,240 --> 01:28:48,360
Speaker 4: But outside of that, Bobby Wagner, oh ye, David Yeah,

1919
01:28:48,600 --> 01:28:51,879
Speaker 4: Russell Wilson to Mario Davis, Kirk.

1920
01:28:51,760 --> 01:28:54,559
Speaker 3: Cousins Kirk, Yeah, Kirk was in the class too.

1921
01:28:54,760 --> 01:28:55,960
Speaker 4: And then these are guys I don't know if he's

1922
01:28:56,120 --> 01:28:58,640
Speaker 4: with a squad right now, but like Josh Normantal being

1923
01:28:58,760 --> 01:29:01,200
Speaker 4: active because I guess he was recently. Same with us

1924
01:29:01,200 --> 01:29:04,000
Speaker 4: Stefan Gilmore, same with Ryan Tannel, but they're Gills right now.

1925
01:29:04,240 --> 01:29:07,599
Speaker 4: Gilly luck yep, yeah, I mean that's Kevin Zeidler, former

1926
01:29:07,640 --> 01:29:09,519
Speaker 4: Brown from that from that draft as well.

1927
01:29:09,680 --> 01:29:11,800
Speaker 3: It's it's an incredible.

1928
01:29:11,360 --> 01:29:14,200
Speaker 4: Thing that that you've accomplished, and you've probably seen a

1929
01:29:14,439 --> 01:29:17,400
Speaker 4: lot and an evolution. By the way, let people know

1930
01:29:17,520 --> 01:29:19,799
Speaker 4: somebody who's been around for thirty years. Two high safeties

1931
01:29:19,840 --> 01:29:23,920
Speaker 4: have been around, Yeah, thirteen years. It didn't just happen. Yeah,

1932
01:29:24,040 --> 01:29:26,040
Speaker 4: why are we making That's like the new hot take

1933
01:29:26,200 --> 01:29:28,639
Speaker 4: every week. It's what about the too hot? Too hot?

1934
01:29:28,680 --> 01:29:29,879
Speaker 4: Do you have I guess.

1935
01:29:31,320 --> 01:29:31,360
Speaker 5: It.

1936
01:29:31,520 --> 01:29:32,439
Speaker 12: Get rid of the too.

1937
01:29:32,800 --> 01:29:37,240
Speaker 3: Come on Tampa too. That's back, Yeah, it goes way back.

1938
01:29:37,400 --> 01:29:39,720
Speaker 12: Yeah, it's not a new invention. There's a lot of

1939
01:29:39,800 --> 01:29:42,360
Speaker 12: new inventions, but that's not one of them. There, Tony.

1940
01:29:42,400 --> 01:29:44,439
Speaker 12: But so much you could do on defense, I'm telling you.

1941
01:29:44,720 --> 01:29:47,400
Speaker 3: But yeah, Ronnie, we thank you so much, buddy. It's

1942
01:29:47,439 --> 01:29:48,800
Speaker 3: so awesome to have you a part of this team.

1943
01:29:48,880 --> 01:29:50,240
Speaker 3: Is great to have you out here with us today.

1944
01:29:50,520 --> 01:29:52,439
Speaker 3: Thank you for your time and greatly appreciate you. Good

1945
01:29:52,479 --> 01:29:53,040
Speaker 3: luck this lock.

1946
01:29:53,240 --> 01:29:56,519
Speaker 2: Let's go appreciate It's Brown Safety, Rodney the Cloud joining

1947
01:29:56,600 --> 01:29:58,880
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1948
01:29:58,960 --> 01:30:01,600
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1949
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1955
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1956
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1957
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