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Speaker 2: I went to go see Denzel Washington Jay Gillenhall in Othello.

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Speaker 2: went to Good Night and Good Luck, which is George

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Speaker 2: Clooney's play about Edward R. Murrow and the idea being

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Speaker 2: journalists are the story and the heroes of this entire play.

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Speaker 2: And it goes back to again nineteen fifties era America

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Speaker 2: making fun of myself. I don't like musicals, so I

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Speaker 2: is great, and I didn't dislike Goodnight and good Luck.

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Speaker 2: So if some of you are going on vacation or

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Speaker 2: And as Clooney is delivering a monologue, he is saying

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Speaker 3: Well when that saying, well, thanks Clay, it was so

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Speaker 3: great to have you there and to be with Dina

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Speaker 3: and President Trump. I had asked him right after the

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Speaker 3: what a representation I think of all that's great about America.

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Speaker 3: The op ed said hard work, it said resilience, it

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Speaker 3: The guy stood up and saluted the President. I need

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Speaker 3: this was like, this was made for Hollywood. It couldn't

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Speaker 4: talk in a moment about your book with your wife Dina,

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Speaker 4: who believed in you, how purposeful mentorship changes the world.

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Speaker 2: Let's bring in your wife too, who's done good work. Buck.

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Speaker 2: Just reference the book which is trying to encourage mentorship.

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Speaker 2: Why did you want to tell this story, Dina, And

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Speaker 3: Sure?

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Speaker 5: Well, thank you so much Clay for having me on.

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Speaker 5: I'm so honored to be on with you and Clay

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Speaker 5: Tell your audience that being with you at the Ohio

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Speaker 7: It really was.

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Speaker 5: You know, Dave and I actually wrote this book during COVID.

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Speaker 2: Block has gotten fired up about this because he can't

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Speaker 2: I believe it was Monday night the Atlanta Braves are

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Speaker 7: Good luck the rest of the way. Okay, Wiley, we

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Speaker 7: So they want me to get your number. I'm dead serious,

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Speaker 4: Claig knows he can do this because he tells me,

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Speaker 4: single if an attractive sideline reporter came up to Clay

434
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Speaker 4: pre Laura or Buck pre Carrie and was like, hey, like,

435
00:24:48,119 --> 00:24:50,040
Speaker 4: can I have your phone number? I promise you we

436
00:24:50,040 --> 00:24:50,760
Speaker 4: wouldn't have been.

437
00:24:50,600 --> 00:24:53,760
Speaker 2: Like, I feel so harassed. It would be the greatest

438
00:24:53,800 --> 00:24:57,120
Speaker 2: moment of every guy's life. Now, women don't think about

439
00:24:57,160 --> 00:24:59,760
Speaker 2: this in the same way as men, because if you're

440
00:24:59,760 --> 00:25:03,360
Speaker 2: in a attractive woman, you are being pursued by men

441
00:25:03,880 --> 00:25:06,040
Speaker 2: every moment of your life, right, I mean, this is

442
00:25:06,080 --> 00:25:08,160
Speaker 2: the reality. You go to the grocery store a good

443
00:25:08,200 --> 00:25:10,560
Speaker 2: looking guy, I mean, you're a good looking girl, A

444
00:25:10,640 --> 00:25:12,640
Speaker 2: guy might hit on you right Like you're at the gym.

445
00:25:12,680 --> 00:25:15,919
Speaker 2: Wherever you are, there are men who are pursuing you.

446
00:25:15,960 --> 00:25:18,080
Speaker 2: This is how biology works. By and large, you might

447
00:25:18,119 --> 00:25:21,320
Speaker 2: not like the guys that are pursuing you, but the

448
00:25:21,440 --> 00:25:24,439
Speaker 2: idea buck to your point. If a pretty girl in

449
00:25:24,480 --> 00:25:27,560
Speaker 2: the stands has a microphone and she's interviewing a guy

450
00:25:28,080 --> 00:25:30,760
Speaker 2: and somebody remarks, hey, chemistry looks pretty good here. You

451
00:25:30,760 --> 00:25:33,359
Speaker 2: should ask him for his phone number, and he got

452
00:25:33,840 --> 00:25:36,520
Speaker 2: the phone number, every guy in America would be like,

453
00:25:36,560 --> 00:25:39,119
Speaker 2: this is the coolest thing that ever happened. They're not

454
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Speaker 2: gonna rip the girl.

455
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Speaker 4: This is a hero moment.

456
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Speaker 2: Are you kidding me?

457
00:25:42,440 --> 00:25:44,400
Speaker 4: Everybody would say it was really cool of the girl

458
00:25:44,440 --> 00:25:46,520
Speaker 4: to take the to make the move, and you know,

459
00:25:46,560 --> 00:25:50,520
Speaker 4: the guy is the luckiest guy we've seen how you

460
00:25:50,640 --> 00:25:53,159
Speaker 4: sort of get into this. How are people supposed to

461
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Speaker 4: meet people?

462
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Speaker 7: Right? What is now?

463
00:25:55,800 --> 00:25:55,879
Speaker 3: That?

464
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Speaker 4: Is it all just it's only algorithms online where you're

465
00:25:59,000 --> 00:26:01,320
Speaker 4: you're you know, you're at arms distance and you don't

466
00:26:01,359 --> 00:26:03,960
Speaker 4: actually have to deal with the possibility of like rejecting

467
00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:07,600
Speaker 4: somebody or actually talking to them. I mean what I Clay,

468
00:26:07,720 --> 00:26:10,200
Speaker 4: when you sent me that, I swear I kept reading

469
00:26:10,240 --> 00:26:13,880
Speaker 4: through it and it was just like, my, my, Fortunately

470
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Speaker 4: I have a lot of hair, but I was pulling

471
00:26:15,280 --> 00:26:17,960
Speaker 4: the hair out of my head. I could not understand.

472
00:26:18,119 --> 00:26:21,040
Speaker 2: Is the only sports media site in the entire country

473
00:26:21,640 --> 00:26:23,880
Speaker 2: that will say, there's nothing wrong with this? This is good,

474
00:26:23,920 --> 00:26:24,520
Speaker 2: lighthearted face.

475
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Speaker 4: I mean to me, this is almost like, you know,

476
00:26:26,280 --> 00:26:29,440
Speaker 4: at the end of a local news cast, they'll do like, oh,

477
00:26:29,600 --> 00:26:32,399
Speaker 4: like a local mallard in the park, you know, lost

478
00:26:32,440 --> 00:26:34,040
Speaker 4: one of her something happy.

479
00:26:33,760 --> 00:26:36,240
Speaker 2: To try to send people off into their day. Yes,

480
00:26:36,359 --> 00:26:37,920
Speaker 2: this is like a happy.

481
00:26:37,640 --> 00:26:40,080
Speaker 4: End of newscast kind of story. It's like, oh and

482
00:26:40,119 --> 00:26:43,639
Speaker 4: she found her baby duckling yay, you know see tomorrow everybody. Uh,

483
00:26:43,960 --> 00:26:47,200
Speaker 4: this is like a nice, happy story. It's cute. Look,

484
00:26:47,240 --> 00:26:49,040
Speaker 4: maybe she gave him a fake number. Look, maybe it

485
00:26:49,040 --> 00:26:52,600
Speaker 4: doesn't go to It doesn't matter. It's a nice little exchange. Obviously,

486
00:26:52,640 --> 00:26:55,159
Speaker 4: people think this this woman that he's asking, you know,

487
00:26:55,320 --> 00:26:58,399
Speaker 4: is an attractive young woman, and it's all I just

488
00:26:59,160 --> 00:27:01,520
Speaker 4: this is like a It's like Shakespeare in comedy. It's like,

489
00:27:01,560 --> 00:27:03,520
Speaker 4: this is the sort of thing that in Western civilization

490
00:27:03,560 --> 00:27:05,960
Speaker 4: we'd all sit around and smile about it and be like, oh,

491
00:27:06,040 --> 00:27:10,399
Speaker 4: isn't that fun and killjoy. Sports reporters think that it

492
00:27:10,680 --> 00:27:13,760
Speaker 4: undermines the seriousness of women in the industry or something

493
00:27:14,359 --> 00:27:18,800
Speaker 4: like are they just because nobody watched the WNBA draft Clay? Like, what,

494
00:27:18,800 --> 00:27:19,760
Speaker 4: what is the problem here?

495
00:27:19,800 --> 00:27:24,480
Speaker 2: They're also making a ridiculous argument that this somehow equates

496
00:27:24,520 --> 00:27:28,399
Speaker 2: to them dating a player or an athlete. This is

497
00:27:28,440 --> 00:27:30,600
Speaker 2: not the same thing at all, thing to do with that,

498
00:27:30,760 --> 00:27:34,680
Speaker 2: not even remotely close. And also it's just a desperate

499
00:27:34,880 --> 00:27:39,760
Speaker 2: desire to make yourself a victim. Something nice happens on television,

500
00:27:40,080 --> 00:27:41,879
Speaker 2: you know what. I already tweeted this, but this is

501
00:27:41,920 --> 00:27:44,760
Speaker 2: not going to surprise you. I would if I own

502
00:27:44,840 --> 00:27:48,639
Speaker 2: the Braves, I would totally steer into this controversy. I

503
00:27:48,720 --> 00:27:51,040
Speaker 2: would have them go on a date at a game.

504
00:27:51,480 --> 00:27:53,960
Speaker 2: I would have a reporter signed to cover the date

505
00:27:54,080 --> 00:27:56,840
Speaker 2: during the course of the during the course of the broadcast.

506
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Speaker 2: You know this because you've done this show long enough

507
00:27:59,760 --> 00:28:04,040
Speaker 2: for me. My response anytime somebody criticizes anything that I

508
00:28:04,119 --> 00:28:07,320
Speaker 2: do is to do it even more aggressively. Like some

509
00:28:07,359 --> 00:28:08,960
Speaker 2: people are like, oh, you know what, I'll take a

510
00:28:08,960 --> 00:28:11,919
Speaker 2: step back. I'm like, we're going to go faster, even

511
00:28:12,080 --> 00:28:15,840
Speaker 2: faster into the controversy. And I would totally lean into

512
00:28:15,840 --> 00:28:17,920
Speaker 2: this because I think what it does, and this was

513
00:28:17,960 --> 00:28:22,600
Speaker 2: the basic foundation of OutKick is I think that much

514
00:28:22,680 --> 00:28:25,400
Speaker 2: of social media, as BS, I think that a lot

515
00:28:25,400 --> 00:28:28,119
Speaker 2: of what people say there is not representative of the

516
00:28:28,160 --> 00:28:31,560
Speaker 2: real world. And if you allow yourself to be governed

517
00:28:31,600 --> 00:28:34,440
Speaker 2: by what people say on social media, you end up

518
00:28:34,480 --> 00:28:38,640
Speaker 2: making moronic decisions for your company, for your brand, for

519
00:28:38,760 --> 00:28:41,480
Speaker 2: your personal life. Because in the analogy I've made for

520
00:28:41,520 --> 00:28:43,320
Speaker 2: a long time, and I think I'm being proven more

521
00:28:43,400 --> 00:28:46,200
Speaker 2: right every single day, is it would be like buck

522
00:28:46,520 --> 00:28:50,040
Speaker 2: back in the day, remember those funny mirrors when you

523
00:28:50,040 --> 00:28:52,040
Speaker 2: would go to a carnival and some of them make

524
00:28:52,040 --> 00:28:54,000
Speaker 2: you look super fat and some of them make you

525
00:28:54,040 --> 00:28:57,160
Speaker 2: look super skinny. If you tried to adjust your diet

526
00:28:57,240 --> 00:29:01,000
Speaker 2: based on a funhouse mirror, imagine how broken your overall

527
00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:03,680
Speaker 2: life would be. I think that's the story of media.

528
00:29:04,040 --> 00:29:08,520
Speaker 2: I think media used social media as a representative, honest

529
00:29:08,560 --> 00:29:11,320
Speaker 2: reflection of the real world and tried to adjust their

530
00:29:11,360 --> 00:29:13,320
Speaker 2: coverage as of a result, and I think they lit

531
00:29:13,360 --> 00:29:16,239
Speaker 2: themselves on fire. I think Trump saw it. Certainly, we

532
00:29:16,280 --> 00:29:19,840
Speaker 2: saw it in Sports without Kick and sanity's returning. But

533
00:29:19,880 --> 00:29:21,920
Speaker 2: every time we have one of these blow ups, I

534
00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:24,520
Speaker 2: look at the comments like you did, and I just

535
00:29:24,640 --> 00:29:27,040
Speaker 2: I feel like I'm living in a different world than

536
00:29:27,080 --> 00:29:30,120
Speaker 2: the reality of the day to day existence that I see.

537
00:29:31,960 --> 00:29:33,000
Speaker 2: It's still it is.

538
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Speaker 4: It's one of those things where I didn't think we

539
00:29:34,480 --> 00:29:36,400
Speaker 4: would really talk about this because it would only be

540
00:29:36,920 --> 00:29:40,120
Speaker 4: you know, there's some people who, you know, they'll get

541
00:29:40,120 --> 00:29:41,320
Speaker 4: mad at you. If you're like, hey, you know what

542
00:29:41,320 --> 00:29:43,120
Speaker 4: can relax? You take a deep breath. They're like, oh,

543
00:29:43,160 --> 00:29:45,120
Speaker 4: I'm sorry, mister big deep breath.

544
00:29:45,360 --> 00:29:47,040
Speaker 2: Oh you got mad at you. And you were like, hey,

545
00:29:47,040 --> 00:29:48,800
Speaker 2: you know what you should do more of walk? And

546
00:29:48,880 --> 00:29:52,120
Speaker 2: people are like, oh, you're so such an elitist. Look

547
00:29:52,160 --> 00:29:54,800
Speaker 2: at you able to see radio hosts with your walking

548
00:29:54,960 --> 00:29:57,640
Speaker 2: daily you know, I swear I'm not kidding. There were

549
00:29:57,680 --> 00:30:00,000
Speaker 2: a bunch of people that were attacking me like, sorry,

550
00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:01,720
Speaker 2: some of us have jobs that don't I'm like, don't

551
00:30:01,720 --> 00:30:03,360
Speaker 2: allow you to find any time in the day to

552
00:30:03,400 --> 00:30:06,280
Speaker 2: go for a walk anywhere. Okay, I mean I'm sorry

553
00:30:06,320 --> 00:30:09,440
Speaker 2: you work in like the Fox con iPhone factory. This

554
00:30:09,600 --> 00:30:12,240
Speaker 2: is like me and I've said this to my boys

555
00:30:12,280 --> 00:30:14,800
Speaker 2: a lot, like, hey, you can do push ups anywhere.

556
00:30:15,120 --> 00:30:18,160
Speaker 2: I understand everybody doesn't have a fat, fancy gym membership,

557
00:30:18,160 --> 00:30:19,720
Speaker 2: but you can do push ups and sit ups pretty

558
00:30:19,760 --> 00:30:22,920
Speaker 2: much anywhere. I mean, people in jail sales get ripped

559
00:30:22,960 --> 00:30:24,600
Speaker 2: because they just sit around and do push ups and

560
00:30:24,600 --> 00:30:27,480
Speaker 2: sit ups all day. You can walk anywhere pretty much

561
00:30:27,600 --> 00:30:28,520
Speaker 2: unless you either.

562
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Speaker 4: People that want to be bitter about everything was my point,

563
00:30:30,520 --> 00:30:31,600
Speaker 4: and you'll find that on the internet.

564
00:30:31,640 --> 00:30:32,440
Speaker 2: They just want to be bitter.

565
00:30:32,480 --> 00:30:35,640
Speaker 4: But people that make a living commenting on sports, instead

566
00:30:35,640 --> 00:30:37,320
Speaker 4: of seeing this as a viral clip and something that

567
00:30:37,360 --> 00:30:40,040
Speaker 4: can bring everyone together, a lot of a lot plays

568
00:30:40,080 --> 00:30:42,360
Speaker 4: point is it's not that a cup a lot of

569
00:30:42,360 --> 00:30:46,680
Speaker 4: them were attacking this twenty thirty people with substantial audiences

570
00:30:46,720 --> 00:30:47,880
Speaker 4: like this is unacceptable?

571
00:30:47,920 --> 00:30:54,800
Speaker 2: How dare this be allowed to occur? Real people are

572
00:30:54,840 --> 00:30:59,360
Speaker 2: so nuts? There's more totally nuts. It is it is crazy. Anyway,

573
00:30:59,520 --> 00:31:01,400
Speaker 2: if you're a single guy, go ask a pretty girl

574
00:31:01,400 --> 00:31:03,320
Speaker 2: for her phone number, and hopefully you'll have kids one

575
00:31:03,400 --> 00:31:05,880
Speaker 2: day and that will be the foundation of your Or.

576
00:31:05,800 --> 00:31:07,560
Speaker 4: If we're if you're a nice young woman and you

577
00:31:07,640 --> 00:31:09,400
Speaker 4: find a guy who's single and you think he's cute,

578
00:31:09,480 --> 00:31:11,880
Speaker 4: ask him. I promise you if he's not going to

579
00:31:11,920 --> 00:31:14,000
Speaker 4: be offended, he's not going to be offended. You're not

580
00:31:14,040 --> 00:31:15,640
Speaker 4: going to be offended. I promise you could be like, oh,

581
00:31:15,720 --> 00:31:16,120
Speaker 4: dare you?

582
00:31:16,240 --> 00:31:17,200
Speaker 7: How dare you? Madam?

583
00:31:17,680 --> 00:31:20,280
Speaker 2: One of the most intimidating things that any man ever

584
00:31:20,360 --> 00:31:22,400
Speaker 2: has to do is ask a pretty girl for her

585
00:31:22,400 --> 00:31:24,880
Speaker 2: phone number, her contact information, because it sets you up

586
00:31:24,920 --> 00:31:27,640
Speaker 2: for rejection. As everybody who's ever been to prom everybody

587
00:31:27,680 --> 00:31:30,840
Speaker 2: who's ever been to a dance, men have to ask overwhelmingly. Yeah,

588
00:31:30,840 --> 00:31:32,280
Speaker 2: if you're a pretty girl and you like a guy,

589
00:31:32,400 --> 00:31:34,840
Speaker 2: go for it. But I got my battleship. I got

590
00:31:34,840 --> 00:31:37,880
Speaker 2: my battleship sunk plenty of times before I got married.

591
00:31:37,920 --> 00:31:39,680
Speaker 2: And you know what build's character.

592
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Speaker 1: You're listening to the best of Clay Travis and Buck Sexton.

593
00:31:43,760 --> 00:31:45,600
Speaker 4: We got a lot of talkbacks, a lot of calls.

594
00:31:45,840 --> 00:31:48,000
Speaker 4: I'll be figured this would to get you guys fired up.

595
00:31:48,280 --> 00:31:51,320
Speaker 4: A A Henry from New York a w R listener.

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Speaker 6: Play it on this sad day, which is tax day.

597
00:31:55,000 --> 00:32:00,280
Speaker 6: Listening to you two guys makes the painless intense. So

598
00:32:00,360 --> 00:32:03,160
Speaker 6: I think you like the antidote the tax that's what

599
00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:03,520
Speaker 6: you want.

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00:32:03,720 --> 00:32:07,800
Speaker 4: Tax antidote there, Hey man, Clay, that's high praise, right,

601
00:32:07,800 --> 00:32:08,760
Speaker 4: we'll take that.

602
00:32:09,280 --> 00:32:12,120
Speaker 2: I wish we could be the tax antidote because anyway,

603
00:32:12,160 --> 00:32:13,719
Speaker 2: it's just crazy. I know a lot of you were

604
00:32:13,760 --> 00:32:15,880
Speaker 2: having tears in your eyes almost as she stroked those

605
00:32:15,960 --> 00:32:16,720
Speaker 2: checks yesterday.

606
00:32:16,800 --> 00:32:18,360
Speaker 4: We like Clay, and I like to think that we're

607
00:32:18,400 --> 00:32:21,640
Speaker 4: a spoonful of sugar that helps the tax day go down.

608
00:32:21,680 --> 00:32:24,640
Speaker 4: You know what I mean? Here we go uh bb

609
00:32:24,840 --> 00:32:28,360
Speaker 4: Pam from Anchorage, Alaska A k E N I listener

610
00:32:28,440 --> 00:32:29,160
Speaker 4: up there, play it?

611
00:32:29,240 --> 00:32:31,920
Speaker 5: Congratulations, fucking carry on the baby.

612
00:32:32,200 --> 00:32:35,240
Speaker 2: I was just gonna ask how Ginger is doing.

613
00:32:35,400 --> 00:32:37,680
Speaker 5: What does Ginger think of sweet baby James.

614
00:32:38,680 --> 00:32:41,960
Speaker 4: She it's a great question. She is fascinated. She has

615
00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:45,400
Speaker 4: come over and given little sniffs and little smooches to

616
00:32:45,640 --> 00:32:47,640
Speaker 4: like the baby's feet when we held You know, we're

617
00:32:47,720 --> 00:32:49,720
Speaker 4: careful because Ginger still an animal, and I know that

618
00:32:49,800 --> 00:32:53,040
Speaker 4: you know you got it, but she's fascinated. She's a

619
00:32:53,040 --> 00:32:56,080
Speaker 4: little sweet doggie and she loves our little She thinks

620
00:32:56,080 --> 00:32:58,000
Speaker 4: it's like a little alien. I can tell, but she

621
00:32:58,160 --> 00:33:00,240
Speaker 4: likes the little alien. So so far, so good, good

622
00:33:00,640 --> 00:33:01,480
Speaker 4: on all that stuff.

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Speaker 3: Clay