1 00:00:03,760 --> 00:00:07,119 Speaker 1: Please. He's the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson 2 00:00:07,480 --> 00:00:12,639 Speaker 1: one Home of the Black and Gold Steelers Nation Radio. 3 00:00:14,400 --> 00:00:17,159 Speaker 1: Welcome back. I'm Dale Lolly here with Matt Williamson. This 4 00:00:17,239 --> 00:00:19,480 Speaker 1: is the Drive. I just want to remind everybody that 5 00:00:19,560 --> 00:00:22,119 Speaker 1: we do have the Seven Days of Seven only on 6 00:00:22,400 --> 00:00:25,599 Speaker 1: s n R and if Tuesday at seven am. You'll 7 00:00:25,600 --> 00:00:27,360 Speaker 1: see here that we talked about the Packers in the 8 00:00:27,400 --> 00:00:31,160 Speaker 1: previous segment. You'll hear Ben Roethlisberger and the Steelers against 9 00:00:31,200 --> 00:00:34,199 Speaker 1: the Packers from twelve twenty nine. That would be the 10 00:00:34,400 --> 00:00:37,960 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers first meeting between Aaron Rodgers and Ben Roethlisberger, 11 00:00:38,240 --> 00:00:42,040 Speaker 1: followed by the Steelers versus the Colts at seven o'clock 12 00:00:42,080 --> 00:00:45,520 Speaker 1: on Tuesday. Wednesday morning, you're looking at the Steelers versus 13 00:00:45,600 --> 00:00:50,320 Speaker 1: Ravens on eleven to fourteen. Of course, that a big 14 00:00:50,360 --> 00:00:53,080 Speaker 1: game there, and then at seven o'clock that night you 15 00:00:53,080 --> 00:00:56,400 Speaker 1: get the Christmas Day game with the Immaculate Extension, uh 16 00:00:56,440 --> 00:01:00,480 Speaker 1: that coming at seven o'clock. That game was a twelve. 17 00:01:00,840 --> 00:01:03,240 Speaker 1: And then that will wrap things up with the seven 18 00:01:03,320 --> 00:01:07,959 Speaker 1: on seven uh seven Days of seven on Thursday at 19 00:01:08,120 --> 00:01:11,360 Speaker 1: seven am with this year's Brown's game, his final home game, 20 00:01:11,760 --> 00:01:14,479 Speaker 1: and then uh, this the seven pm game that will 21 00:01:14,520 --> 00:01:17,280 Speaker 1: be prety broadcast on these very air waves, will be 22 00:01:17,319 --> 00:01:20,039 Speaker 1: the game from earlier this year when he played the 23 00:01:20,160 --> 00:01:23,080 Speaker 1: Ravens and the Steelers got into the playoffs. Matt, I 24 00:01:23,080 --> 00:01:26,080 Speaker 1: wanted to talk about the Senior Bowl. Uh, since that's 25 00:01:26,080 --> 00:01:28,240 Speaker 1: gonna be a hot topic this week and lots of 26 00:01:28,280 --> 00:01:31,000 Speaker 1: people will be talking about that. They started measurements and 27 00:01:31,040 --> 00:01:32,840 Speaker 1: weigh ins today. I don't know if you saw that, 28 00:01:33,840 --> 00:01:38,040 Speaker 1: n see the results, but I will say I've done 29 00:01:38,080 --> 00:01:42,560 Speaker 1: more draft prep today or really since the final whistle 30 00:01:42,720 --> 00:01:45,840 Speaker 1: last night then in any day in six months. I 31 00:01:46,280 --> 00:01:48,440 Speaker 1: am jumped in deep into the Senior Bowl and I'm 32 00:01:48,440 --> 00:01:50,840 Speaker 1: starting to learn these guys and pretty psyched about it, 33 00:01:50,880 --> 00:01:54,080 Speaker 1: to be honest with it. Yeah, I dove in this 34 00:01:54,160 --> 00:01:56,840 Speaker 1: weekend and I wrote a piece came up with about 35 00:01:56,840 --> 00:01:59,120 Speaker 1: twenty guys that I want to really keep an eye 36 00:01:59,160 --> 00:02:01,440 Speaker 1: on this week, just of a prime a primer for 37 00:02:01,480 --> 00:02:03,320 Speaker 1: people to take a look at. Kenny. As I mentioned, 38 00:02:03,360 --> 00:02:07,680 Speaker 1: Kenny Pickett from pitt Uh came in at six three 39 00:02:07,760 --> 00:02:11,000 Speaker 1: and two two eights, which is that's good. Uh, you know, 40 00:02:11,120 --> 00:02:13,799 Speaker 1: nice size for a quarterback to seventeen pounds, so a 41 00:02:13,840 --> 00:02:16,320 Speaker 1: little bit. Uh. You know, you always wonder about the 42 00:02:16,360 --> 00:02:20,080 Speaker 1: sizes when these guys get measured in colleges, they always 43 00:02:20,080 --> 00:02:22,239 Speaker 1: seem to add. They always add an inch and maybe 44 00:02:22,240 --> 00:02:26,280 Speaker 1: ten pounds. Well, in this case, pick is as advertised, 45 00:02:26,760 --> 00:02:29,880 Speaker 1: UM six to seventeen. Uh. The one thing he didn't 46 00:02:29,919 --> 00:02:34,600 Speaker 1: do he didn't get his hands measured. I heard and 47 00:02:36,280 --> 00:02:39,040 Speaker 1: I was reading something about that. I think it was 48 00:02:40,080 --> 00:02:43,720 Speaker 1: trying to remember the quarterback. Now, somebody was drafted recently. 49 00:02:44,440 --> 00:02:50,000 Speaker 1: Um got a bunch of hand massages between the end 50 00:02:50,040 --> 00:02:53,400 Speaker 1: of the season and the NFL scouting combine and actually 51 00:02:53,760 --> 00:02:58,760 Speaker 1: increased their hands size by three eighths of an inch. Yes, 52 00:02:58,840 --> 00:03:04,440 Speaker 1: by getting us it's possible. It's possible, so pull back 53 00:03:04,440 --> 00:03:08,440 Speaker 1: the curtain. I did a radio hit with Mark Madden 54 00:03:08,720 --> 00:03:12,399 Speaker 1: right before we were we started recording this, and he 55 00:03:12,480 --> 00:03:15,560 Speaker 1: broke that news to me that Kenny pick It, And 56 00:03:15,600 --> 00:03:17,200 Speaker 1: of course he got a big laugh out of it, 57 00:03:17,240 --> 00:03:20,959 Speaker 1: which I totally understand. Kenny pick It decided he's gonna 58 00:03:20,960 --> 00:03:22,960 Speaker 1: do the weigh ins and everything, but he's not going 59 00:03:23,040 --> 00:03:26,640 Speaker 1: to have his hand measured until he gets to Indianapolis. 60 00:03:27,320 --> 00:03:30,520 Speaker 1: And I'm sure all the listeners and Mark himself are like, 61 00:03:31,160 --> 00:03:34,120 Speaker 1: what on earth is that about Williamson? Can you explain 62 00:03:34,160 --> 00:03:38,200 Speaker 1: this to me at all? And I kind of said, well, 63 00:03:38,640 --> 00:03:41,040 Speaker 1: I can't really explain it all that well, I'm not 64 00:03:41,080 --> 00:03:45,440 Speaker 1: going to pretend like I can. But you know, he 65 00:03:46,960 --> 00:03:49,520 Speaker 1: and I made some dirty jokes. Uh, an eighth of 66 00:03:49,520 --> 00:03:51,720 Speaker 1: an inch a quarter of an inch makes a major 67 00:03:51,800 --> 00:03:55,080 Speaker 1: difference in the world. And you want your quarterback to 68 00:03:55,120 --> 00:03:58,680 Speaker 1: have at least nine inchance. Nine is a magic number number. 69 00:03:58,800 --> 00:04:01,160 Speaker 1: Joe Burrow has nine inch hands and there are some 70 00:04:01,200 --> 00:04:04,320 Speaker 1: people talking about him having two small hands. That was 71 00:04:04,360 --> 00:04:06,480 Speaker 1: the negative of him coming out of LSU R and 72 00:04:06,600 --> 00:04:10,960 Speaker 1: he but that was one and there. I can't remember 73 00:04:10,960 --> 00:04:12,640 Speaker 1: who the quarterback was. And I said the same thing 74 00:04:12,640 --> 00:04:14,440 Speaker 1: on Madden's I learned when I was on the air 75 00:04:14,960 --> 00:04:19,680 Speaker 1: that did these massages and stretches and exercises and got 76 00:04:19,720 --> 00:04:22,920 Speaker 1: over the magic number. He got nine in a quarter 77 00:04:23,080 --> 00:04:25,119 Speaker 1: or whatever when everyone thought he would be under nine. 78 00:04:25,160 --> 00:04:27,640 Speaker 1: And that was like, you know, hitting six ft. If 79 00:04:27,680 --> 00:04:29,960 Speaker 1: you're a quarterback, like, there's numbers you just want to 80 00:04:29,960 --> 00:04:33,520 Speaker 1: be over, and that's one of them. And if he 81 00:04:33,920 --> 00:04:36,640 Speaker 1: I'm sure that's what he's working on. It's the number 82 00:04:36,680 --> 00:04:39,240 Speaker 1: one concern about Kenny Pick get his hand size, and 83 00:04:39,240 --> 00:04:41,400 Speaker 1: why is he wear two gloves and if he can 84 00:04:41,400 --> 00:04:44,080 Speaker 1: get it to look a little bit better, it's like 85 00:04:44,160 --> 00:04:46,960 Speaker 1: shaving a tenth off your forty time if you're a receiver. 86 00:04:47,160 --> 00:04:49,520 Speaker 1: I mean, that sounds so dumb because he's gonna throw 87 00:04:49,560 --> 00:04:53,040 Speaker 1: the football just as well. But this is a million 88 00:04:53,080 --> 00:04:55,840 Speaker 1: dollar industry here. It's the same reason, the same reason 89 00:04:55,920 --> 00:05:00,640 Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson didn't run, never ran the forty Kyler Murray 90 00:05:00,680 --> 00:05:05,840 Speaker 1: didn't want to be weighed exactly. There's great. You know, guys, 91 00:05:05,960 --> 00:05:08,360 Speaker 1: guys are if you are one of the top guys, 92 00:05:08,440 --> 00:05:10,560 Speaker 1: it serves no purpose for you to do that because 93 00:05:10,600 --> 00:05:14,160 Speaker 1: it's only gonna be a negative unless you unless you 94 00:05:14,160 --> 00:05:15,880 Speaker 1: you know, all of a sudden, you have nine and 95 00:05:15,880 --> 00:05:18,040 Speaker 1: a half inch hands where he's all of a sudden 96 00:05:18,040 --> 00:05:21,840 Speaker 1: and Kyler Murray's case, you're two fifteen pounds, and then 97 00:05:21,880 --> 00:05:23,600 Speaker 1: you're not. Then you're not gonna run. You're not gonna 98 00:05:23,800 --> 00:05:26,440 Speaker 1: because you probably ate you know, uh, you know, a 99 00:05:26,520 --> 00:05:28,480 Speaker 1: high carp diet for the last three weeks to get 100 00:05:28,520 --> 00:05:31,160 Speaker 1: to that. You know, that's those kind of things rocks 101 00:05:31,200 --> 00:05:35,640 Speaker 1: in your pocket, right, So um, it matters. We'll see, 102 00:05:35,680 --> 00:05:37,719 Speaker 1: We'll see, you know, we'll see what the the official 103 00:05:37,720 --> 00:05:41,320 Speaker 1: measurements are at the NFL Scouting Combine. I do think 104 00:05:41,320 --> 00:05:43,680 Speaker 1: all these all six of the quarterbacks that are at 105 00:05:43,720 --> 00:05:47,200 Speaker 1: this game or are people that Steeler fans you keep 106 00:05:47,200 --> 00:05:49,480 Speaker 1: an eye on. That would be Kenny Pickett, Desmond Ritter, 107 00:05:49,720 --> 00:05:53,240 Speaker 1: and Carson Strong. They're all on the national team on 108 00:05:53,279 --> 00:05:56,440 Speaker 1: the American team. Or Sam how Malik Willis and Billy 109 00:05:56,560 --> 00:06:03,800 Speaker 1: Zapp um ppper Zappy. I canna that's right, Yeah, um, yeah, 110 00:06:03,920 --> 00:06:08,479 Speaker 1: great name. Um. I've watched tape of all these guys. Um, 111 00:06:08,520 --> 00:06:11,919 Speaker 1: they all have their pluses and minuses. Um. You know, 112 00:06:11,960 --> 00:06:15,680 Speaker 1: I think pick it might be the most complete of 113 00:06:15,720 --> 00:06:19,080 Speaker 1: the group in terms of overall game. But you know, 114 00:06:19,200 --> 00:06:22,080 Speaker 1: it depends on what you're looking for. You know, you 115 00:06:22,120 --> 00:06:25,520 Speaker 1: look at guy like like Rittery, six furies, two fifteen pounds, 116 00:06:26,560 --> 00:06:28,440 Speaker 1: they're thinking he's gonna run like a four or five 117 00:06:28,839 --> 00:06:32,440 Speaker 1: ish forty somewhere in that range. He can run. Um, 118 00:06:32,520 --> 00:06:34,440 Speaker 1: his problem is, you know, when he they played some 119 00:06:34,480 --> 00:06:37,640 Speaker 1: of their biggest games this year. UH, people aren't gonna 120 00:06:37,680 --> 00:06:40,360 Speaker 1: forget that. His last game was against Alabama in the 121 00:06:40,600 --> 00:06:43,320 Speaker 1: UH the Bulk Championship Series and he threw for a 122 00:06:43,400 --> 00:06:46,800 Speaker 1: hundred forty four yards. Now that's not necessarily his fault, 123 00:06:47,880 --> 00:06:50,320 Speaker 1: you know, they but it was an opportunity that he 124 00:06:50,520 --> 00:06:53,280 Speaker 1: missed the separate him. Yeah, so this will be an 125 00:06:53,320 --> 00:06:55,800 Speaker 1: opportunity this week for him. And I think it's interesting 126 00:06:56,120 --> 00:06:59,080 Speaker 1: that you got pick It, Ritter and Strong all on 127 00:06:59,160 --> 00:07:01,920 Speaker 1: that on that same squad. That you can watch those 128 00:07:01,960 --> 00:07:05,479 Speaker 1: guys throw against each other. Oh, it's great because Cars 129 00:07:05,560 --> 00:07:07,320 Speaker 1: is strong. Cars is strong, got the best arm in 130 00:07:07,360 --> 00:07:11,880 Speaker 1: this class. Uh, he just can't move. And I learned 131 00:07:11,880 --> 00:07:14,640 Speaker 1: a lot about him lately. I mean, I guess by 132 00:07:14,720 --> 00:07:19,000 Speaker 1: some reputable sources, he came back when most quarterbacks weren't 133 00:07:19,120 --> 00:07:22,720 Speaker 1: from a knee injury to be with his teammates at 134 00:07:22,760 --> 00:07:25,600 Speaker 1: Nevada and try to win this year, and because he 135 00:07:25,640 --> 00:07:28,160 Speaker 1: loves it and all that, where he easily could have 136 00:07:28,200 --> 00:07:31,320 Speaker 1: sat the year out, recovered just worked on draft prep. 137 00:07:31,720 --> 00:07:33,320 Speaker 1: So I think there's something to be said for that. 138 00:07:33,400 --> 00:07:37,880 Speaker 1: But all those things being said, he's the most pocket 139 00:07:37,960 --> 00:07:42,280 Speaker 1: pass or statue. Yeah, you know, I mean, his his 140 00:07:42,400 --> 00:07:45,160 Speaker 1: drills will be interesting. I'm curious like his shottles and 141 00:07:45,200 --> 00:07:47,640 Speaker 1: things like that, because I do think what we saw 142 00:07:47,640 --> 00:07:50,280 Speaker 1: on tape this year will be less mobile than what 143 00:07:50,360 --> 00:07:53,080 Speaker 1: you see in the NFL next year for him. But 144 00:07:53,200 --> 00:07:56,880 Speaker 1: he's never gonna be Willis or correct. You know, these 145 00:07:56,880 --> 00:08:01,720 Speaker 1: guys have been really scoot you turn on Yeah, he 146 00:08:01,800 --> 00:08:03,480 Speaker 1: turned on the tape of him and watch it. Watch 147 00:08:03,560 --> 00:08:06,640 Speaker 1: him throw forty yr bombs on the money down the field. 148 00:08:07,240 --> 00:08:08,920 Speaker 1: He had a he had a piece of his hip 149 00:08:08,960 --> 00:08:12,080 Speaker 1: bone inserted into his knee because he had a knee 150 00:08:12,080 --> 00:08:16,920 Speaker 1: issue in high school. Uh. It had eight biodegradable nails 151 00:08:16,960 --> 00:08:20,200 Speaker 1: placed in that knee. Um, and had you know, like 152 00:08:20,320 --> 00:08:22,680 Speaker 1: a couple of surgeries on that thing. So that's gonna 153 00:08:22,680 --> 00:08:25,200 Speaker 1: be interesting to watch him on the On the other 154 00:08:25,240 --> 00:08:27,240 Speaker 1: side of that, the other team that real quick deal. 155 00:08:27,280 --> 00:08:29,800 Speaker 1: There might be some teams that just say the doctor 156 00:08:29,880 --> 00:08:32,360 Speaker 1: might just say you're not drafting him, Sorry, you can't 157 00:08:32,400 --> 00:08:38,280 Speaker 1: take him. Yeah, and so yeah, that's that's that for him. 158 00:08:38,320 --> 00:08:41,840 Speaker 1: I think the combine is going to be the biggest thing. Yes, 159 00:08:42,000 --> 00:08:45,080 Speaker 1: when prodded to no end. The medicals for him are 160 00:08:45,080 --> 00:08:49,199 Speaker 1: gonna be huge, great environment for him. Absolutely, those three 161 00:08:49,280 --> 00:08:52,040 Speaker 1: days of practice, he's gonna sling it and look good. Oh, 162 00:08:52,120 --> 00:08:54,360 Speaker 1: there's I have no doubt about that. I think his stocks, 163 00:08:54,720 --> 00:08:58,040 Speaker 1: his stock is gonna go up based on these games. 164 00:08:58,080 --> 00:09:01,360 Speaker 1: I think, um, you know, just on guys. His dog 165 00:09:01,440 --> 00:09:03,360 Speaker 1: is gonna get really hot this week. And we'll get 166 00:09:03,360 --> 00:09:05,800 Speaker 1: to the other one here in a minute. Yeah, um, 167 00:09:05,800 --> 00:09:09,240 Speaker 1: Howland Willis are are interested? If the draft, if the 168 00:09:09,320 --> 00:09:12,040 Speaker 1: season wouldn't have been played this year, if they would 169 00:09:12,040 --> 00:09:14,760 Speaker 1: have had another COVID season, Sam Hel might have been 170 00:09:14,800 --> 00:09:17,600 Speaker 1: the first player taken in this draft, and Willis would 171 00:09:17,600 --> 00:09:20,880 Speaker 1: have been higher too. Willis would have been higher as well. Um, 172 00:09:20,920 --> 00:09:24,880 Speaker 1: you know, I liken how situation to what happened in 173 00:09:24,960 --> 00:09:28,240 Speaker 1: Josh Allen and his last year at Wyoming. Similar where 174 00:09:28,280 --> 00:09:30,839 Speaker 1: all of his all of his guys from his junior year, 175 00:09:31,080 --> 00:09:34,600 Speaker 1: sophomore year, whichever one it was. The previous year, they 176 00:09:34,640 --> 00:09:38,040 Speaker 1: had like four guys from their offense, skill position players 177 00:09:38,200 --> 00:09:39,920 Speaker 1: who went on to the NFL. None of them were 178 00:09:39,960 --> 00:09:42,679 Speaker 1: like high high draft picks, but they're all like four 179 00:09:42,840 --> 00:09:46,240 Speaker 1: fifth six round guys. Will you lose guys like that? Yeah, 180 00:09:46,240 --> 00:09:48,360 Speaker 1: it's gonna be difficult for you. The next year you 181 00:09:48,400 --> 00:09:52,520 Speaker 1: lost some quality players. Um, same thing happened mine. He 182 00:09:52,640 --> 00:09:57,040 Speaker 1: lost two star running backs and two and two star receivers. 183 00:09:57,360 --> 00:09:59,920 Speaker 1: Right in Ammy Brown and the slot guy forgets his 184 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:02,600 Speaker 1: into who was a really good college guy, and they're 185 00:10:02,600 --> 00:10:04,319 Speaker 1: playing a bunch of freshmans, you know, and they're asking 186 00:10:04,400 --> 00:10:07,440 Speaker 1: him to carry the whole team. And he literally carried 187 00:10:07,480 --> 00:10:11,760 Speaker 1: the whole team, the whole team, and he learned some ways, 188 00:10:11,800 --> 00:10:14,080 Speaker 1: he got a little better, and that he became a 189 00:10:14,200 --> 00:10:20,000 Speaker 1: much better playmaker out of structure. Um, he's became much 190 00:10:20,040 --> 00:10:23,760 Speaker 1: more productive as a runner, and but he wasn't as 191 00:10:23,760 --> 00:10:27,400 Speaker 1: efficient as a passer, you know, but that all adds up. Yeah, 192 00:10:27,400 --> 00:10:30,880 Speaker 1: there's no doubt about it. Um, watching Willis this year, 193 00:10:31,880 --> 00:10:34,400 Speaker 1: he'd sit there and if you watch the entire, the 194 00:10:34,559 --> 00:10:36,520 Speaker 1: entire game of him, there'd be like three or four 195 00:10:36,520 --> 00:10:40,079 Speaker 1: passes where he'd go, holy mackerel, Wow, that was just great, 196 00:10:40,800 --> 00:10:42,920 Speaker 1: you're a run or whatever it would be. And then 197 00:10:42,960 --> 00:10:45,160 Speaker 1: there'd be three or four passes or plays where you 198 00:10:45,240 --> 00:10:48,160 Speaker 1: look at and go, what the heck was that? He's 199 00:10:48,160 --> 00:10:51,319 Speaker 1: just I think he's very raw. He's you know, it's 200 00:10:51,360 --> 00:10:54,520 Speaker 1: gonna be interesting to see where he goes. You broke 201 00:10:54,600 --> 00:10:57,840 Speaker 1: up for one second there, you're talking about Willis. Yeah, yeah, see, 202 00:10:57,840 --> 00:10:59,840 Speaker 1: I think Willis is the one I think that's going 203 00:10:59,880 --> 00:11:02,560 Speaker 1: to start to get buzz as the first quarterback taken 204 00:11:03,679 --> 00:11:06,000 Speaker 1: on Monday from now, you know, not even necessarily the 205 00:11:06,000 --> 00:11:10,240 Speaker 1: game this is such a good environment for him because 206 00:11:10,280 --> 00:11:14,679 Speaker 1: he's so talented that it'll start the show and everyone 207 00:11:14,679 --> 00:11:18,120 Speaker 1: will be talking about which agree he has the highest 208 00:11:18,120 --> 00:11:22,280 Speaker 1: ceiling in this class And is that much different than 209 00:11:22,640 --> 00:11:25,920 Speaker 1: Trey Lance so a year ago? And um, I mean, 210 00:11:27,000 --> 00:11:30,280 Speaker 1: I guess a big thing was they were very very 211 00:11:30,440 --> 00:11:33,520 Speaker 1: RPO centric this past year and they changed some of 212 00:11:33,520 --> 00:11:37,280 Speaker 1: their offensive stuff that we'll see how quickly gets the 213 00:11:37,280 --> 00:11:40,439 Speaker 1: ball out of his hands, how well he processes routes. 214 00:11:40,880 --> 00:11:43,320 Speaker 1: And I think a big thing for Willis and to 215 00:11:43,400 --> 00:11:45,480 Speaker 1: me this is a huge Senior Bowl theme in general 216 00:11:45,520 --> 00:11:48,840 Speaker 1: that I've learned over the years is Tuesday practice is great, 217 00:11:49,240 --> 00:11:52,199 Speaker 1: but I want to see him get better Wednesday, better Thursday, 218 00:11:52,400 --> 00:11:55,040 Speaker 1: you know, get a little more adjusted, especially quarterbacks with 219 00:11:55,080 --> 00:11:57,600 Speaker 1: their receivers. They just met those guys, you know. So 220 00:11:58,040 --> 00:12:01,960 Speaker 1: I think Willis and Strong are too that are ready 221 00:12:02,040 --> 00:12:08,840 Speaker 1: to be a little more. Yeah, known at increase their stock. 222 00:12:09,320 --> 00:12:11,319 Speaker 1: But it could be true for how To. I mean, 223 00:12:11,520 --> 00:12:13,959 Speaker 1: I think how has got a lot to work with. Yeah, 224 00:12:14,000 --> 00:12:16,880 Speaker 1: I think some people are gonna like Zappy as well. Uh, 225 00:12:17,000 --> 00:12:20,000 Speaker 1: He's got kind of a funky throwing style. His arm 226 00:12:20,000 --> 00:12:22,480 Speaker 1: strength worries me a little, it does it does It 227 00:12:22,559 --> 00:12:24,520 Speaker 1: kind of reminds me of Philip Rivers a little bit, 228 00:12:25,080 --> 00:12:27,760 Speaker 1: the way the way he kind of slings the slings 229 00:12:27,800 --> 00:12:30,720 Speaker 1: of football. Uh. And on the tape that I watched 230 00:12:30,920 --> 00:12:33,880 Speaker 1: of him, he put the ball in the money. But 231 00:12:33,960 --> 00:12:35,800 Speaker 1: a lot of those guys are running wide open. I 232 00:12:35,800 --> 00:12:39,079 Speaker 1: mean zappies from from western Kentucky, you know. So I 233 00:12:39,120 --> 00:12:41,360 Speaker 1: want I want to see if he can do that, uh, 234 00:12:41,400 --> 00:12:44,679 Speaker 1: you know, against better coverage guys and fit the ball 235 00:12:44,679 --> 00:12:46,920 Speaker 1: in the tighter windows. So he could be a guy 236 00:12:46,960 --> 00:12:48,880 Speaker 1: that that helps himself. I mean, right now you're looking 237 00:12:48,880 --> 00:12:51,400 Speaker 1: at him, I think you know, you add Matt Corrall 238 00:12:51,480 --> 00:12:53,920 Speaker 1: to that, to that group and you say, okay, Zappy seven, 239 00:12:54,320 --> 00:12:58,160 Speaker 1: can he get above seven? You know that's that's gonna 240 00:12:58,160 --> 00:12:59,920 Speaker 1: be the question. I think a lot will depend on 241 00:13:00,080 --> 00:13:02,959 Speaker 1: Strong's knee. Well that's a big That's I was a 242 00:13:03,040 --> 00:13:06,680 Speaker 1: huge component. The thing I worry about was Zappy. That 243 00:13:06,920 --> 00:13:10,240 Speaker 1: won't matter with where he played, how many of his 244 00:13:10,320 --> 00:13:12,880 Speaker 1: balls get there on a line, you know. I mean 245 00:13:13,679 --> 00:13:16,440 Speaker 1: it's not that he can't make the throws, but if 246 00:13:16,480 --> 00:13:19,040 Speaker 1: it takes a beat later for it to land where 247 00:13:19,040 --> 00:13:20,960 Speaker 1: it needs to be, or he needs to put more 248 00:13:21,000 --> 00:13:24,160 Speaker 1: air on it to get it there. NFL d backs 249 00:13:24,240 --> 00:13:26,880 Speaker 1: love that, you know what I mean, They most certainly do. 250 00:13:27,559 --> 00:13:29,679 Speaker 1: Let's still let's talk about some of these offensive linemen 251 00:13:29,720 --> 00:13:32,880 Speaker 1: we're gonna see this week. It is a good group. 252 00:13:32,920 --> 00:13:36,120 Speaker 1: I want to see Zion Johnson, the big guy out 253 00:13:36,120 --> 00:13:39,280 Speaker 1: of Boston College. Played some left tackle for them, but 254 00:13:39,320 --> 00:13:43,600 Speaker 1: he's six three to six or three six three six, Um, 255 00:13:43,600 --> 00:13:45,480 Speaker 1: gonna have to move to guard in the NFL. I don't. 256 00:13:45,480 --> 00:13:47,960 Speaker 1: I don't think he he's gonna stay out of tackle 257 00:13:48,320 --> 00:13:50,839 Speaker 1: in the NFL. But man can he He can run 258 00:13:50,880 --> 00:13:55,319 Speaker 1: block with anybody. He's a really good prospect. And I 259 00:13:55,360 --> 00:13:58,160 Speaker 1: think on the drive we've only brought his name up 260 00:13:58,280 --> 00:14:01,200 Speaker 1: once because we did a um you know, we were 261 00:14:01,280 --> 00:14:04,000 Speaker 1: recapping someone's mock draft last week or the week before, 262 00:14:04,320 --> 00:14:07,520 Speaker 1: and they had Zion going to the Steelers in the 263 00:14:07,559 --> 00:14:10,200 Speaker 1: second round, you know, like right around. I don't see 264 00:14:10,240 --> 00:14:13,120 Speaker 1: that happening. I don't see him being available there. That's 265 00:14:13,160 --> 00:14:15,360 Speaker 1: that's pie in the sky. I mean, the only negative 266 00:14:15,400 --> 00:14:17,360 Speaker 1: I can find on the guy is I think he's 267 00:14:17,920 --> 00:14:21,520 Speaker 1: a pure guard. Well, there's sixty four starting to those 268 00:14:21,560 --> 00:14:23,720 Speaker 1: in the in the league, and he's gonna be one 269 00:14:23,760 --> 00:14:27,160 Speaker 1: of them immediately. Boston college guy. If people don't realize 270 00:14:27,160 --> 00:14:30,160 Speaker 1: he's good athlete, he's a he's a great prospect. I 271 00:14:30,160 --> 00:14:32,080 Speaker 1: mean I think there's a chance he ends up in 272 00:14:32,160 --> 00:14:34,280 Speaker 1: round one. Yeah, I think so too. I think he 273 00:14:34,280 --> 00:14:36,480 Speaker 1: could be the first guard taken in the draft. And 274 00:14:36,800 --> 00:14:41,520 Speaker 1: those guys usually go where, well, somewhere around the top twenty. Yeah, 275 00:14:41,040 --> 00:14:44,760 Speaker 1: right around that area. Uh. The other the other guys, yeah, 276 00:14:44,920 --> 00:14:47,920 Speaker 1: we're the fan pick like eighteenth or so, you know. Yeah, 277 00:14:48,000 --> 00:14:49,440 Speaker 1: I mean they were up there all in that in 278 00:14:49,520 --> 00:14:52,120 Speaker 1: that range. Um. The other guys I want to watch 279 00:14:52,200 --> 00:14:55,280 Speaker 1: here are are more tackle oriented, and those will be 280 00:14:55,440 --> 00:14:59,920 Speaker 1: Darian Kinnard, Trevor Penning, Bernard Raymond, Abraham Lucas at a 281 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:07,480 Speaker 1: about Washington State. That's my sleeper, and Daniel Filele. Okay, um, 282 00:15:07,920 --> 00:15:13,160 Speaker 1: let's talk. Canarden, Penning and Raymond are probably and the 283 00:15:13,200 --> 00:15:17,400 Speaker 1: first round guys, maybe early second round guys. Um, they're 284 00:15:17,400 --> 00:15:21,760 Speaker 1: gonna be they'll go after those that top three go. Yeah, 285 00:15:21,920 --> 00:15:24,440 Speaker 1: and I'm interested to see how these guys look against 286 00:15:24,480 --> 00:15:28,680 Speaker 1: each other. They all got like Canard six five, I 287 00:15:28,680 --> 00:15:31,080 Speaker 1: mean he's just a just a massive guy and was 288 00:15:31,120 --> 00:15:34,760 Speaker 1: the name the top blocker in the SEC. I mean, 289 00:15:34,920 --> 00:15:37,800 Speaker 1: this is the SEC Alabama had some good guys. Georgia 290 00:15:37,840 --> 00:15:40,680 Speaker 1: had some good guys, like this guy was named you know, 291 00:15:40,720 --> 00:15:44,600 Speaker 1: the best, the best in the conference. So at Kentucky, 292 00:15:44,640 --> 00:15:46,600 Speaker 1: I'm interested to see, you know, at that size, how 293 00:15:46,640 --> 00:15:49,720 Speaker 1: he moves his feet because he you know, that's yeah. 294 00:15:49,720 --> 00:15:51,200 Speaker 1: I want to see what, you know as he sloppy, 295 00:15:51,440 --> 00:15:54,240 Speaker 1: that kind of stuff. Um Penning, we've talked about the 296 00:15:54,280 --> 00:15:59,720 Speaker 1: kid out of Northern Iowa. Six It sounds like light feet, 297 00:16:00,240 --> 00:16:03,640 Speaker 1: change a direction and is he a right tackle or 298 00:16:03,720 --> 00:16:05,480 Speaker 1: is he a guard? I mean, those are the things 299 00:16:05,480 --> 00:16:09,000 Speaker 1: that the questions. Yeah, those are the questions, Um. And 300 00:16:09,040 --> 00:16:10,640 Speaker 1: I think they're looking at him as a guard just 301 00:16:10,680 --> 00:16:13,160 Speaker 1: because of the weight. I think so too. I don't 302 00:16:13,160 --> 00:16:15,320 Speaker 1: think he's better going forward than he is, you know, 303 00:16:15,360 --> 00:16:18,200 Speaker 1: backpedal in protection. Yeah, I mean, is he just a 304 00:16:18,280 --> 00:16:21,040 Speaker 1: right tackle, you know Kenny play on the left side. 305 00:16:21,080 --> 00:16:22,680 Speaker 1: That those you know, those are some of the questions 306 00:16:22,680 --> 00:16:24,840 Speaker 1: you look at him. I think with Penning Penning at 307 00:16:24,920 --> 00:16:28,280 Speaker 1: six seven, you know, he just hasn't faced some of 308 00:16:28,280 --> 00:16:30,360 Speaker 1: the top guys. The same thing with Raymond at at 309 00:16:30,600 --> 00:16:33,400 Speaker 1: Central Michigan. They need they need to show that they can, 310 00:16:33,480 --> 00:16:35,480 Speaker 1: you know, get it done against some of the studs 311 00:16:35,480 --> 00:16:39,920 Speaker 1: that are gonna be in this game on a consistent basis. Um, 312 00:16:39,960 --> 00:16:42,400 Speaker 1: you know, Raymond is an interesting When I was reading 313 00:16:42,400 --> 00:16:44,960 Speaker 1: about him, he came from he came to the US 314 00:16:45,000 --> 00:16:48,600 Speaker 1: from Austria. Yeah, oh he's really interesting. It was the 315 00:16:48,720 --> 00:16:52,680 Speaker 1: guys back stories. Was originally recruited to Central Michigan as 316 00:16:52,680 --> 00:16:56,520 Speaker 1: a wide receiver, right right, right, he's six seven six 317 00:16:56,520 --> 00:17:00,000 Speaker 1: seven three oh five, like going away, Yeah, that's exactly 318 00:17:00,080 --> 00:17:03,240 Speaker 1: exactly what I said, Like, wow, okay, you know so 319 00:17:03,480 --> 00:17:07,399 Speaker 1: I would assume the guy moves well, you know, so 320 00:17:07,880 --> 00:17:09,920 Speaker 1: I'm interested to see what he looks like on the hoof. 321 00:17:10,720 --> 00:17:13,280 Speaker 1: I mentioned lucasn't played a lot of oldline though yet 322 00:17:13,480 --> 00:17:17,359 Speaker 1: right yeah, again, very very young at it. Abraham Lucas 323 00:17:17,359 --> 00:17:22,800 Speaker 1: from Washington State, UM, six seven three Washington State was 324 00:17:22,840 --> 00:17:26,439 Speaker 1: horrible this year, but he stood out. He was the 325 00:17:26,520 --> 00:17:28,399 Speaker 1: He was the one guy. I watched a little bit 326 00:17:28,440 --> 00:17:30,879 Speaker 1: of tape of him like okay, this guy's this guy's 327 00:17:30,880 --> 00:17:33,760 Speaker 1: all right. Um, you know you obviously they were in 328 00:17:33,800 --> 00:17:36,919 Speaker 1: a lot of situations where you know you're behind, you 329 00:17:36,960 --> 00:17:39,359 Speaker 1: have to throw, so you're gonna get everybody's best pass 330 00:17:39,440 --> 00:17:42,480 Speaker 1: rush and he held up. I'm interested to see what 331 00:17:42,520 --> 00:17:44,560 Speaker 1: he looks like this week up against some of these 332 00:17:44,600 --> 00:17:54,200 Speaker 1: other guys. And then Filetle six pounds, yes, and he 333 00:17:54,520 --> 00:17:58,120 Speaker 1: is from Australia, not that you're confused with Austria who 334 00:17:58,160 --> 00:18:03,280 Speaker 1: we just mentioned. And he's almost like identical to um 335 00:18:03,440 --> 00:18:05,359 Speaker 1: the Eagles dude that they got in the seventh round, 336 00:18:06,320 --> 00:18:12,760 Speaker 1: in the seventh round, right, gigundo. And the questions are 337 00:18:12,840 --> 00:18:15,560 Speaker 1: very obvious for him, you know, is he light enough 338 00:18:15,560 --> 00:18:17,760 Speaker 1: on his feet to change directions for being such a 339 00:18:17,760 --> 00:18:22,280 Speaker 1: big man. But he's a potentially dominant player with the 340 00:18:22,320 --> 00:18:24,840 Speaker 1: best ahead of him. I mean, he's gonna stand it. 341 00:18:24,880 --> 00:18:27,560 Speaker 1: And once a while we talk about man flows. Oh 342 00:18:27,640 --> 00:18:30,359 Speaker 1: Adams look big amongst big people with the Steelers, this 343 00:18:30,440 --> 00:18:34,480 Speaker 1: guy flows, go Adam. You know he's gonna have some uh, 344 00:18:34,800 --> 00:18:38,439 Speaker 1: some little plant moon's orbiting him as he's out on 345 00:18:38,440 --> 00:18:43,680 Speaker 1: the football field exactly. But those two in particular, um, 346 00:18:44,480 --> 00:18:48,359 Speaker 1: I know, Filele and uh for his damp thought my 347 00:18:48,359 --> 00:18:52,320 Speaker 1: head and scrolling up and Raymond it's all ahead of him. 348 00:18:52,359 --> 00:18:54,919 Speaker 1: I mean a good coach. I mean, if you get 349 00:18:54,960 --> 00:18:57,120 Speaker 1: one of those guys, a guy like munt Chak, I mean, 350 00:18:57,400 --> 00:18:59,640 Speaker 1: look out, yeah, you're getting a lot of multiple clay 351 00:18:59,680 --> 00:19:02,240 Speaker 1: there in the case in case of file, a lot 352 00:19:02,400 --> 00:19:08,480 Speaker 1: of multiple clay, a lot of uh. I also took 353 00:19:08,520 --> 00:19:10,239 Speaker 1: a look at some of the linebackers. This is a 354 00:19:10,240 --> 00:19:14,760 Speaker 1: really good group too. Uh. Devn Lloyd's obviously the stand 355 00:19:14,840 --> 00:19:17,680 Speaker 1: out stand out. I mean, this is this guy could 356 00:19:17,720 --> 00:19:21,000 Speaker 1: be a top ten pick. But you know, sometimes those 357 00:19:21,000 --> 00:19:23,520 Speaker 1: guys fall a little bit. We'll see, you know, we'll 358 00:19:23,520 --> 00:19:26,159 Speaker 1: see where he goes. But if he's available to to 359 00:19:26,240 --> 00:19:29,800 Speaker 1: the Steelers, Wow, I mean, I think they would be 360 00:19:29,840 --> 00:19:33,840 Speaker 1: real happy about that. Um. Then you got the Georgia 361 00:19:33,960 --> 00:19:38,480 Speaker 1: duo of Tindall and quay Walker. Um, these guys are 362 00:19:39,160 --> 00:19:42,000 Speaker 1: I think Tindall's the estimates on him is he's going 363 00:19:42,040 --> 00:19:44,240 Speaker 1: to run a sub four or five forty say, I 364 00:19:44,240 --> 00:19:47,600 Speaker 1: think you can run yeah, And then you know you 365 00:19:47,600 --> 00:19:53,040 Speaker 1: look at quay Walker pounds and you're like, it's kind 366 00:19:53,080 --> 00:19:56,359 Speaker 1: of like Tremaine Edmonds because he's not He's not like, 367 00:19:56,560 --> 00:19:58,359 Speaker 1: you know, your classic thumper. This is this guy who 368 00:19:58,440 --> 00:20:03,760 Speaker 1: sixty you can move the tight end matchup type guy. Yeah, 369 00:20:03,840 --> 00:20:08,120 Speaker 1: Anthony Barr type, you know, right, you know, almost looks 370 00:20:08,160 --> 00:20:13,680 Speaker 1: more like a three four edge guy. Yeah. Christian Harrison 371 00:20:13,720 --> 00:20:17,240 Speaker 1: Alabama is another one that that boy. I mean there's 372 00:20:17,280 --> 00:20:19,880 Speaker 1: there's three solid guys out of the sec right there. 373 00:20:20,200 --> 00:20:22,200 Speaker 1: And then I got a couple of of maybe a 374 00:20:22,200 --> 00:20:25,480 Speaker 1: little lesser known guys for you. Met Um Chad Muma 375 00:20:25,520 --> 00:20:27,800 Speaker 1: from Wyoming. Yeah, I'm glad you brought him up by like, 376 00:20:27,880 --> 00:20:30,080 Speaker 1: I think he would be a really good fit here. Yeah. 377 00:20:30,359 --> 00:20:37,400 Speaker 1: Um good size sixty two, uh covers does all that stuff. Um, 378 00:20:37,480 --> 00:20:40,240 Speaker 1: who's the guy with the Bengals. He's a Wyoming guy. Um, 379 00:20:40,320 --> 00:20:44,240 Speaker 1: Logan Wilson. Logan Wilson, He's very much like Logan Wilson. 380 00:20:44,480 --> 00:20:47,120 Speaker 1: You could use one of those guys without without doubt. 381 00:20:47,200 --> 00:20:51,120 Speaker 1: I mean, he's a a physical downhill player. I've heard 382 00:20:51,119 --> 00:20:55,040 Speaker 1: a lot of people talking about that he's he's his 383 00:20:55,160 --> 00:20:57,640 Speaker 1: stocks about ready to blow up this week. That he's 384 00:20:57,640 --> 00:21:00,920 Speaker 1: gonna really fit in this environment quite a bit it. Um. 385 00:21:01,119 --> 00:21:02,600 Speaker 1: I don't know if you know much about the Moan 386 00:21:02,680 --> 00:21:06,280 Speaker 1: Clark to the l s U guy. He's appealing to 387 00:21:06,320 --> 00:21:08,719 Speaker 1: me too. And the couple of guys we mentioned aren't 388 00:21:09,359 --> 00:21:12,280 Speaker 1: five eleven six ft. There's a lot of six three 389 00:21:13,760 --> 00:21:17,679 Speaker 1: guys that aren't just Vince Williams between the tackle thumpers too. 390 00:21:18,119 --> 00:21:20,120 Speaker 1: More than that. Yeah, how about this guy. I don't 391 00:21:20,119 --> 00:21:22,120 Speaker 1: know if you if you've read anything on this one. 392 00:21:22,480 --> 00:21:28,119 Speaker 1: Troy Anderson from Montana State, Yes, I did today. It 393 00:21:28,200 --> 00:21:31,520 Speaker 1: was the first I've ever heard of him. And he's 394 00:21:31,640 --> 00:21:34,359 Speaker 1: really intriguing. Is he the one that was he was 395 00:21:34,400 --> 00:21:38,600 Speaker 1: the big Yeah, the Big Sky Freshman of the Year. 396 00:21:38,680 --> 00:21:41,320 Speaker 1: Is a running back linebacker. He started games at both 397 00:21:41,400 --> 00:21:45,960 Speaker 1: spots as a freshman running back and linebacker in college football. 398 00:21:46,160 --> 00:21:52,280 Speaker 1: Then he moved a quarterback because Montana State's quarterback got hurt. Uh, 399 00:21:52,320 --> 00:21:55,760 Speaker 1: And then he moved back to defense. He had he 400 00:21:55,800 --> 00:21:59,840 Speaker 1: had fourteen hundred rushing yards one year, then he moved offense. Yeah, 401 00:22:00,000 --> 00:22:01,840 Speaker 1: then he moves back to defense and last year had 402 00:22:01,880 --> 00:22:07,879 Speaker 1: a hundred seven tackles, two sacks, two interceptions, seven pass breakups, 403 00:22:08,040 --> 00:22:10,679 Speaker 1: and was the FCS Defensive Player of the year. And 404 00:22:10,680 --> 00:22:14,760 Speaker 1: he's he's six five. I mean, you assume the guy 405 00:22:14,800 --> 00:22:17,920 Speaker 1: can run um and as as a former quarterback, you 406 00:22:17,920 --> 00:22:20,680 Speaker 1: would hope that he understands coverages pretty well. To say, 407 00:22:20,800 --> 00:22:24,000 Speaker 1: I assume he's smart and at least understands what offenses 408 00:22:24,040 --> 00:22:27,240 Speaker 1: are trying to accomplish, you know, route concepts, things like that, 409 00:22:27,280 --> 00:22:31,000 Speaker 1: like you mentioned, Yeah, he's super intriguing. I'll be interested. 410 00:22:31,080 --> 00:22:33,159 Speaker 1: I mean, this is a guy now that's probably not 411 00:22:33,200 --> 00:22:36,320 Speaker 1: on a lot of radars, but I think he might 412 00:22:36,359 --> 00:22:39,520 Speaker 1: be after this week. He screams like day two to me, 413 00:22:39,720 --> 00:22:42,639 Speaker 1: you know, like a third round guy. Yeah. If you 414 00:22:42,680 --> 00:22:46,560 Speaker 1: paid any attention to Jojo Doman from Nebraska, yeah yeah, 415 00:22:46,600 --> 00:22:48,080 Speaker 1: I was reading some stuff about him as well. I 416 00:22:48,080 --> 00:22:50,159 Speaker 1: could have put it like twelve different linebackers on this 417 00:22:50,240 --> 00:22:52,879 Speaker 1: list right right? How many of them there are that 418 00:22:52,920 --> 00:22:56,280 Speaker 1: are that are just they're they're good? And it used 419 00:22:56,320 --> 00:22:58,760 Speaker 1: to be these guys were like unicorns and now everybody's 420 00:22:58,760 --> 00:23:02,200 Speaker 1: got them and they're all like converted safeties and things 421 00:23:02,240 --> 00:23:05,560 Speaker 1: of that nature. Guys. You know that's the Nebraska kid. 422 00:23:05,560 --> 00:23:09,720 Speaker 1: He's more like a little bit smaller running hit you know, 423 00:23:10,280 --> 00:23:13,000 Speaker 1: overhang guy. But you can do a lot of different 424 00:23:13,040 --> 00:23:15,840 Speaker 1: things for you really plays hard, you know. I'm interesting. 425 00:23:16,160 --> 00:23:18,879 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, uh And I looked at some of the 426 00:23:18,920 --> 00:23:23,479 Speaker 1: defensive lineman in this one too, I like, uh, well, 427 00:23:23,520 --> 00:23:27,760 Speaker 1: who do you like? I like the John Ridgeway from 428 00:23:28,280 --> 00:23:35,280 Speaker 1: Arkansas sticks three and a quarter long arms, nose tackle types. Um, 429 00:23:35,480 --> 00:23:38,000 Speaker 1: I'm I'm dearing myself a little more towards the noses 430 00:23:38,160 --> 00:23:41,920 Speaker 1: and Jones from Yukon. Isn't that I have Travis Jones 431 00:23:42,000 --> 00:23:46,200 Speaker 1: on my list. Yeah, six four three thirty three. Um, 432 00:23:46,240 --> 00:23:48,720 Speaker 1: you know Yukon much like we talked about the kid 433 00:23:48,760 --> 00:23:53,439 Speaker 1: from Washington State, UH was constantly losing. But this this 434 00:23:53,480 --> 00:23:55,520 Speaker 1: is the guy that, yeah I got that stood out 435 00:23:55,800 --> 00:23:57,720 Speaker 1: for for them. So Travis Jones is I gotta keep 436 00:23:57,720 --> 00:24:01,920 Speaker 1: an eye on. Um Fedariu Matt this from Alabama six 437 00:24:01,960 --> 00:24:05,280 Speaker 1: four three twelve. Um, probably more of a defensive end, 438 00:24:05,400 --> 00:24:07,520 Speaker 1: but you know, you never know. He might be able 439 00:24:07,560 --> 00:24:09,720 Speaker 1: to take put him on the nose. I like Devonte 440 00:24:09,800 --> 00:24:13,080 Speaker 1: Wyatt too from Georgia. Um, he might be I'm glad 441 00:24:13,080 --> 00:24:14,399 Speaker 1: you wrote him up. He might be one of the 442 00:24:14,400 --> 00:24:18,040 Speaker 1: first guys take it. But he can play the nose. Um. 443 00:24:18,080 --> 00:24:20,760 Speaker 1: There's some talk that he's gonna be showing up in 444 00:24:20,800 --> 00:24:24,000 Speaker 1: a lot more first round mocks then than he has 445 00:24:24,119 --> 00:24:29,560 Speaker 1: lately that he's he's testing and particularly his forties are 446 00:24:30,359 --> 00:24:33,560 Speaker 1: mind boggling. And it's not that the Steelers can't use 447 00:24:33,600 --> 00:24:35,719 Speaker 1: this type of player anymore, but he's a little more. 448 00:24:35,760 --> 00:24:39,320 Speaker 1: He's a lot more Warren Warren Sap than he is 449 00:24:39,640 --> 00:24:42,639 Speaker 1: Casey Hampton. Yeah. I don't even I don't know if 450 00:24:42,640 --> 00:24:44,560 Speaker 1: they want to care anymore. I don't. They don't want 451 00:24:44,560 --> 00:24:47,720 Speaker 1: a Casey Hampton type, despite what people may think, because 452 00:24:47,800 --> 00:24:50,919 Speaker 1: Casey Hampton only plays fifteen snaps a game for you, right, 453 00:24:51,160 --> 00:24:54,840 Speaker 1: whereas a guy like like guy like Davonte Wyatt, Okay, 454 00:24:54,920 --> 00:24:58,359 Speaker 1: he's gonna play the nose on on first down and 455 00:24:58,359 --> 00:25:01,400 Speaker 1: then he's gonna kick to to you know, a defensive 456 00:25:01,440 --> 00:25:04,320 Speaker 1: tackle spot on on in the nickel and rushed the passer. 457 00:25:05,480 --> 00:25:07,200 Speaker 1: You know, so I think that's what they're looking for. 458 00:25:07,359 --> 00:25:09,520 Speaker 1: I kind of look at the Haskell Garrett from Ohio 459 00:25:09,560 --> 00:25:12,240 Speaker 1: State the same way. He's a little a little shorter 460 00:25:12,400 --> 00:25:17,600 Speaker 1: six pounds um, but he's a he's a solid tackler. 461 00:25:18,160 --> 00:25:20,359 Speaker 1: Um doesn't give you a ton in the past. Right. 462 00:25:20,359 --> 00:25:23,479 Speaker 1: It kind of reminds me a little bit of Tyson 463 00:25:23,520 --> 00:25:27,720 Speaker 1: and lou Alu Uh. Yeah, you know so, I think 464 00:25:27,720 --> 00:25:29,800 Speaker 1: that's a guy that to keep an eye on this 465 00:25:29,800 --> 00:25:31,719 Speaker 1: week as well. If there's some other guys here as 466 00:25:31,960 --> 00:25:34,360 Speaker 1: you know two as as you mentioned the big kid 467 00:25:34,440 --> 00:25:37,440 Speaker 1: from from Arkansas. I didn't want to put fifty names 468 00:25:37,440 --> 00:25:40,119 Speaker 1: on my on my watch list, but you know, I 469 00:25:40,119 --> 00:25:42,880 Speaker 1: try to keep it to it a reasonable Mathis from 470 00:25:42,880 --> 00:25:45,680 Speaker 1: Bama though, right, Yeah, for Darian Mathis Yeah, I think 471 00:25:45,680 --> 00:25:51,160 Speaker 1: you know, more nose, but you know, not a stump 472 00:25:51,840 --> 00:25:55,280 Speaker 1: right right. It was a defensive captain at Alabama, which 473 00:25:55,280 --> 00:25:58,920 Speaker 1: means something. Yeah. Um, you know, so you're getting ah, 474 00:25:59,119 --> 00:26:01,280 Speaker 1: you know that leadership thing. I think that's gonna be 475 00:26:01,320 --> 00:26:04,439 Speaker 1: important for them this year. Oh I'm sure. Yeah. I 476 00:26:04,440 --> 00:26:09,320 Speaker 1: mean Ben's gone. They're a very very young team. Cam's 477 00:26:09,359 --> 00:26:11,879 Speaker 1: not going to be here forever, and clearly he's the alpha, 478 00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:14,000 Speaker 1: but you need to start developing the next wave of 479 00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:17,160 Speaker 1: those guys, you know, leader wise, no doubt, Yeah, for sure. 480 00:26:17,200 --> 00:26:20,679 Speaker 1: But we'll have more of the Senior Bowl practices take 481 00:26:20,720 --> 00:26:22,600 Speaker 1: place here. We'll give you some updates on some of 482 00:26:22,640 --> 00:26:25,160 Speaker 1: these guys who's standing out those kind of things. We're 483 00:26:25,160 --> 00:26:27,320 Speaker 1: gonna take a break. He is Matt Williamson. I am 484 00:26:27,400 --> 00:26:29,800 Speaker 1: Dale Lally. You're listening to the drive here on Steelers 485 00:26:29,880 --> 00:26:33,000 Speaker 1: Nation Radio. We'll be back with more right after this