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Speaker 2: The Colorado Buffalo BETU CF forty eight.
Speaker 3: Twenty one use me.
Speaker 2: The Buffalos were fourteen point underdog, improved the form one
Speaker 2: two and on the Big Twill. Travisth Tharnock called a
Speaker 2: touchdown pass intercepted the past in the same game for
Speaker 2: the second time in the last three weeks.
Speaker 3: Excuse me.
Speaker 2: It's the fourth time in his three year college career
Speaker 2: that he's done that. He struck the Heisman polls after
Speaker 2: he picked off kJ Jefferson with a diving interception in
Speaker 2: the third quarter. That's he was. He's transferred from Arkansas. Right,
Speaker 2: kJ Jefferson Wasn't he at Arkansas last couple of years?
Speaker 3: Oh Joe?
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Speaker 2: has the third best Heisman odds. Jalen Millro from Alabama
Speaker 2: plus two twenty five is number one. Cam Ward Miami
Speaker 2: plus five hundred, Number two, Travis Hunter plus seven fifty
Speaker 2: number three Dylan Gabriel Oregon plus twelve hundred. He's four. Statistically,
Speaker 2: Hunter has put up elite numbers and receiver. He ended
Speaker 2: the weekend ranked fourth nationally in receptions sixth and receiving
Speaker 2: yard tied for fourth, and TD catcher with five. He
Speaker 2: caught nine passes the day eighty nine yards and a touchdown,
Speaker 2: and grab one of the best cover corners in the game.
Speaker 2: Colorado came from behind with a winner of Baylor. Last week.
Speaker 2: Hunter had the game winning forrest fumble on the gold line.
Speaker 2: Hunter played one hundred and twenty eight snaps on Saturday.
Speaker 2: According to Fox Ball Cast, he's averaging about one hundred
Speaker 2: and thirty snaps per game.
Speaker 1: When we talk about heyst and right, there's so many
Speaker 1: different factors that go into it, but when Carvis Hunter
Speaker 1: is doing it needs to be taken into account.
Speaker 5: This is something special.
Speaker 1: There are very few players that are able to play
Speaker 1: on both sides of the ball. There are very few
Speaker 1: players are able to play on both sides of the
Speaker 1: ball and affect the game on both sides of the ball.
Speaker 1: The fact that Travis Hart was able to do both,
Speaker 1: it speaks volumes. This is no disrespect to cam Ward,
Speaker 1: This is no disrespect to Jaylemon Road and what they're
Speaker 1: doing quarterbacks. Most of the time they always win the
Speaker 1: award based on what they're doing, oh way, But what
Speaker 1: Travers Hunter is doing this year, it needs to be
Speaker 1: taken a little bit more serious, a little bit more serious.
Speaker 1: I don't think people really understand, especially those that are voting.
Speaker 1: I don't know who did the goddamn odds.
Speaker 3: Who's goddamn odds?
Speaker 1: No matter what, Based on what he's done so far
Speaker 1: this season, already, he should be first. He's affecting both
Speaker 1: sides of the ball. It's it's not even heard of.
Speaker 1: It's been done before, but hasn't been done before like
Speaker 1: this at this level, the way he's doing it, the
Speaker 1: interception affecting the game, winning the game, the fumble on
Speaker 1: the goal line at receiver, putting.
Speaker 5: A good number.
Speaker 2: Charles Woodson did play offense, but he did not play
Speaker 2: odds every He didn't play. If they had seventy snaps,
Speaker 2: he wasn't playing sixties five of those snaps. He had
Speaker 2: the package in which he played, and he played extremely well.
Speaker 2: We're not gonna minimize Charles Wilson. He did, he became
Speaker 2: the first defensive player to win the Heisman, but he
Speaker 2: did not play as many snaps on the offensive side
Speaker 2: of the football as Travis Hunter is playing. He's coming
Speaker 2: out of the game, they're running seventy five plays and
Speaker 2: he's only missing two or three of those players, and
Speaker 2: he's missing five or six snaps on the defensive side.
Speaker 2: So basically he's playing all but nine, maybe ten snaps
Speaker 2: in a game.
Speaker 5: Unheard of.
Speaker 1: Yes, but young young bull condition is out this world.
Speaker 1: Young boy, listen, much respect to Travis Hunter. You know,
Speaker 1: I know you're gonna see this. I already gave you
Speaker 1: a message. I had my sisty on, so I know
Speaker 1: you're gonna get this message. If I don't get that
Speaker 1: DM with that jersey, I'm telling you Monday FedEx.
Speaker 5: Right, don't want nothing, no excuses. Any in our money
Speaker 5: is coming straight to me, coming straight to me.
Speaker 3: Period.
Speaker 2: Hey, this was the most comple that I've seen them play,
Speaker 2: maybe since Prime has been there. The ability to run
Speaker 2: the football, the way they protected your door should do
Speaker 2: it through the football, the way they look. They got
Speaker 2: some I mean late in the ballgame. Ucf ran Theo
Speaker 2: football got some players. But I thought they did a
Speaker 2: great job of containing him early on in the ball game,
Speaker 2: doing enough to disrupt this rhythm. I mean, I don't
Speaker 2: know when I look at anybody, I don't think they
Speaker 2: should have ever been concerned about his ability to throw
Speaker 2: in football. He's more dangerous with his legs than he
Speaker 2: is his arm. But I thought this was the most
Speaker 2: complete game. The way they dominated this game. They got
Speaker 2: after the quarterback, They did a great job of protecting
Speaker 2: your door. Shady, you'd a great job of throwing the football.
Speaker 2: But I thought this was one of the more complete
Speaker 2: ball games, if not the most complete I'm talking about
Speaker 2: when you look at running Brewing stopping to run, getting
Speaker 2: after the quarterback defending. I thought this was and it
Speaker 2: was on the road. I thought, so you played what
Speaker 2: hell the Ballah?
Speaker 1: They played really well. I'm happy for Prime. I'm happy
Speaker 1: for Prime. This is what one more week you get
Speaker 1: to you get to keep them off your back. One
Speaker 1: more week you get to keep him off your back
Speaker 1: and show listen, they formed one this year.
Speaker 5: They formed one so far.
Speaker 1: You know a lot of people say they wouldn't be,
Speaker 1: wouldn't even be in this position. What I like, what
Speaker 1: I like for Prime is improvement year the year, the
Speaker 1: improvement year the year.
Speaker 5: All they need a little time.
Speaker 1: All they need a little time to get the right
Speaker 1: the right people, the right dogs in here, you know.
Speaker 5: And next year it's gonna be even better, and it's
Speaker 5: going to be continued.
Speaker 1: It's gonna be a gradual build, nothing overnight, a gradual
Speaker 1: bill and improvement is there.
Speaker 5: We can see it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it had to be O Joe for the simple
Speaker 3: fact that man, they would won it well.
Speaker 2: And y'all expect the man to go in there and
Speaker 2: go to the and to go to the damn Rose
Speaker 2: Bowl or them Beach Bowl is first year and now
Speaker 2: after a team went well, where have they ever done that?
Speaker 5: At noell Andy?
Speaker 3: All he all hyped.
Speaker 2: I mean coach Saba did Coach Sabadeck win No. Twelve
Speaker 2: games his first game his first year there?
Speaker 5: Hype my ad.
Speaker 2: It's gonna take time. And coach Saban had a bunch
Speaker 2: of four and five star recruits. I'm not so sure
Speaker 2: how many four and five star recruits prime had before
Speaker 2: he got to Colorado. But he's gonna take some time.
Speaker 2: But I was very impressed with the way they played today.
Speaker 2: I mean, if you look at Ojo, they had fourteen
Speaker 2: points in the first quarter, they got thirteen in the
Speaker 2: second quarter, they got another fourteen in the third quarter,
Speaker 2: was another seven, So they were complete. They didn't take
Speaker 2: their foot off the gas. They did an unbelievable job
Speaker 2: today of running the football. I thought they did a
Speaker 2: better job of protecting the football. I thought they did
Speaker 2: a great job of getting after the quarterback, attacking the
Speaker 2: line of scrimmage, did a good job in past coverage.
Speaker 3: There's nothing you know.
Speaker 2: Look, I'm sure coach prime Is said, hey, I'm pleased
Speaker 2: with the win. But I heard coach Saby said you
Speaker 2: know what he said, to win and play poorly is
Speaker 2: a kiss of death. I said the way. It was
Speaker 2: an express am to me. You never accept anything in
Speaker 2: a win you wouldn't have lost. But people don't understand
Speaker 2: that because you know why, they just, hey, we won
Speaker 2: the ball game. You can't let your players accept that
Speaker 2: type of attitude because that will.
Speaker 3: Get you beat. That'll get you beat.
Speaker 2: I don't want to, Joe, I don't want to wait
Speaker 2: till I get beat to get your undervited attention. I
Speaker 2: want to be in a situation where I can get
Speaker 2: your attention. That way, we don't be in this find
Speaker 2: ourselves in that situation. But I tried to tell y'all
Speaker 2: this was gonna happen. Now, maybe you'll listen next time.
Speaker 2: I loved I love what coach Saban said. I love
Speaker 2: the way Prime. Prime said. We can't be we can't
Speaker 2: be happy with just winning. That's not good enough.
Speaker 5: Who got next?
Speaker 2: On?
Speaker 5: Who they got next?
Speaker 2: Who they played next? They got at Kansas State or
Speaker 2: at home? Their home against Kansas State? Knis State really good?
Speaker 5: I'm gonna go. I'm gonna go to the game. Get
Speaker 5: the ticket.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you called Prime, you get I'm.
Speaker 1: Gonna go to the game cold too, so I could
Speaker 1: put on my Dickies Dicky overalls in from the hoodie
Speaker 1: and my Tims.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Travis Hunter wore a bland T shirt.
Speaker 2: After Richard Sherman comment, there was a lot of buzzs
Speaker 2: on social media about some of the pregame interaction.
Speaker 3: We got that, we got said about Buddy, we got,
Speaker 3: we got SARMs.
Speaker 2: Okay, Okay, he said he he was saying that his
Speaker 2: skills are defensively second or none. He's he's he's a
Speaker 2: true corner, he has tremendous instincts, great ball skills. But
Speaker 2: he said that he was playing as a receiver. I
Speaker 2: get what Sherman said that he's not a like like
Speaker 2: Chase and.
Speaker 5: Jefferson polish, Okay, Okay, Okay.
Speaker 3: That's what he said.
Speaker 2: Like he's an athlete playing receiver and because he's so
Speaker 2: much more athletic then a lot of people that's defending him,
Speaker 2: he's gonna make a play.
Speaker 5: Okay. I understand.
Speaker 3: The way he's doing. I think I think coach Uh.
Speaker 2: I think uh time put sherm and and uh travel
Speaker 2: in contact with each other and they were able to
Speaker 2: have a conversation. Look, he says as a receiver, I
Speaker 2: just think he's kind of playing. Sherman, a former NFL cornerback.
Speaker 2: Remember shearm was a wide receiver he he got he
Speaker 2: went to Stanford as a wide receiver.
Speaker 3: He ended up moving to a defensive back. Said on
Speaker 3: the Lions Am st.
Speaker 2: Brown podcast, Saint Brown as Sherman if he thinks Hunter
Speaker 2: can play both wide receiver and cornerback in the NFL,
Speaker 2: Sherman said, hell, no, you know that, right, you're talking.
Speaker 3: Crazy, But there's been a lot.
Speaker 2: There's been a lot you and not be Yes, he
Speaker 2: can play packages, but nobody. I don't believe anybody thinks
Speaker 2: he's gonna play every snap on offense, every snap on defense.
Speaker 3: Nobody believe that.
Speaker 2: Do we believe that he can be a defensive back
Speaker 2: and have a package of plays on the offense. Yes, yes,
Speaker 2: because we've seen it before. We've seen Prime do it,
Speaker 2: Champ Bailey, Charles Hoardson for a couple of guys, JJ
Speaker 2: Watt had a couple of packages as a defensivelignment. But
Speaker 2: to play every snap, So the NFL say to try
Speaker 2: to play one hundred and twenty snaps in an NFL.
Speaker 1: Game, right, listen, you'll have to have the endurance of
Speaker 1: the ethio of you know, the Ethiopian runners, so the fifty,
Speaker 1: that's the kind of endurance you're gonna have to have.
Speaker 1: But when I when I think about it, I mean
Speaker 1: when when when I think about Travis Hunt and how
Speaker 1: special he is, even even at the receiver his position,
Speaker 1: I understand what where Sherman's talking about in a sense,
Speaker 1: but I understand I'm also understanding how much work and
Speaker 1: how much time he has to work on his craft.
Speaker 1: From her receiver standpoint, he's so athletic and get it
Speaker 1: once they sharp en up all the tools.
Speaker 5: Man, it's a rap. If he getting drafted, he has.
Speaker 1: To get drafted, as I receive anyway, because that's what
Speaker 1: the money is. That's what the money I see, Travers Hunter.
Speaker 2: Forget the money, Joe Worthy, where forget the money? Where
Speaker 2: can I where can I thrive?
Speaker 3: Where is my best chance to be the most productive player?
Speaker 3: I talk.
Speaker 5: Like that he got he got to play receive one.
Speaker 1: He got to play receiver, because you got to understand
Speaker 1: the money is on the receiving end now. And then
Speaker 1: the packages, the packages at the dB boom, they got
Speaker 1: to give you like a little bonus for.
Speaker 3: That O Joe. You think.
Speaker 5: What package I'm saying when he when he gets to
Speaker 5: the NFL, he gonna have small packages like that nickel.
Speaker 5: He could be. He could be a Nigga one third.
Speaker 2: I bet I bet you he'll play more snaps on
Speaker 2: defense and offense.
Speaker 5: No, no, no, no no. Listen listen.
Speaker 1: As his agent, as his agent, he probably gonna have me.
Speaker 1: But as his agent, I'm telling him, Man, buddy, man,
Speaker 1: listen here. Man, let me tell Let me tell you something.
Speaker 1: You want to play receiver. You got receivers making thirty
Speaker 1: million a year. So by the time it's time for
Speaker 1: you to get paid, you talked about forty five, maybe fifty.
Speaker 5: And matter of fact, they got to pay you fifty
Speaker 5: because you play both.
Speaker 3: Sides of the ball.
Speaker 1: We can integrate that into your contract. You know, and
Speaker 1: and and and you know.
Speaker 5: To find the fine print. But what you're talking about, nah, they.
Speaker 2: Don't you in.
Speaker 3: The paid.
Speaker 2: I'm just looking at it from a skill set and
Speaker 2: where his skills are right now, he's a much better
Speaker 2: defensive back than is I don't.
Speaker 1: I don't agree with you, simply for the fact that
Speaker 1: what he's doing on defense is instinctive based on watching
Speaker 1: film and knowing what's coming as opposed to looking at
Speaker 1: him what he can do at receiver.
Speaker 2: Okay, Oko, let me how many how many comebacks? Have
Speaker 2: how many comebacks have you seen him run? How many
Speaker 2: comebacks have you seen him run? Well, I'm not out
Speaker 2: what you mean. You have it.
Speaker 3: That's a wide receiver and you haven't seen it.
Speaker 5: Wait, wait a minute, Wait a minute, dot, don't jump
Speaker 5: down my throat. Now, probably can probably run come back.
Speaker 2: I say probably. I said, oh yo, how many comebacks
Speaker 2: have you seen him run?
Speaker 3: Maybe?
Speaker 5: They don't have comebacks in that offense.
Speaker 3: That you asked me?
Speaker 5: How many come backs have I seen him run? Well,
Speaker 5: they don't have comebacks in that offense.
Speaker 3: What she wanted to say, I seen how how many digs?
Speaker 1: I seen him un the dig? I've seen him money
Speaker 1: didn't come out to the back door? Yeah, okay, yeah, I've seen.
Speaker 5: Him take a I've seen him. I seen him run
Speaker 5: catch a slant and.
Speaker 1: Reverse and reverse field and come back out where ran
Speaker 1: a slant?
Speaker 2: At Oh Joe, I'm just saying looking at him, study
Speaker 2: for the since he since he's been at Colorado. Watched
Speaker 2: him a little bit of Jackson State because a lot
Speaker 2: of when they came on to be out attention. But
Speaker 2: watching him, I think he's skill set for dB bar superior,
Speaker 2: bar superior, because like I said, he's a natural dB
Speaker 2: oh Joe. He could just he just rolled out of
Speaker 2: bed like hey, I got a boy right here. His
Speaker 2: back his back fedal, the way he can backfedal and
Speaker 2: the way he can transition. Now you know, in order
Speaker 2: to play receiver. These guys are choke you out here
Speaker 2: if you can't release.
Speaker 1: Oh see that I don't know about I don't know.
Speaker 1: I don't know about that part of his game. I
Speaker 1: don't know about that. His ladder moving is uh his.
Speaker 2: He seems like a long stride. He tall, taller than
Speaker 2: he like six three.
Speaker 1: We could work on that. We can work on that.
Speaker 1: He tall tall, work on that. He comes, he comes
Speaker 1: training with me, training me for three months. Man, listen,
Speaker 1: I get him open into the phone booth. I get
Speaker 1: him open into the phone booth.
Speaker 3: Six.
Speaker 1: All we got to do is showing up your gate,
Speaker 1: showing up your steps. And once once you once you,
Speaker 1: once you get once you.
Speaker 5: Get out that dead area off the line, then you
Speaker 5: can open up all you want.
Speaker 3: I just like I said, I think he's phenomenal.
Speaker 2: He's as good as athlete that I've seen with my
Speaker 2: own eyes, and I've seen some pretty good ones.
Speaker 3: Like I said, but.
Speaker 2: Your I was in the year, came into year after time,
Speaker 2: and so I watched him, and I was in the
Speaker 2: league when Bo was in the league. They're two of
Speaker 2: the greatest athletes. You know, when you can play a
Speaker 2: professional sport two yeah, baseball.
Speaker 5: And I played three. But go ahead, Yeah, I'm with you.
Speaker 2: I mean, everybody in NFL played two sports three sports
Speaker 2: in high school.
Speaker 3: But to do a professional.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so's it's unbelievable. Like I said, I I just
Speaker 2: I just want to see him. I think he's better suited.
Speaker 2: At the end of the day, he's gonna I don't
Speaker 2: think he has to make a decision. I think I
Speaker 2: think team's gonna help him make that decision. They gonna say, son,
Speaker 2: we're gonna give you some packages on the officer side
Speaker 2: of the football. But I think, see, oh, Joe, you're
Speaker 2: looking at it from a pure monetary point, but I'm
Speaker 2: looking at it. I'm looking at it from the best
Speaker 2: look for me a monetary standpoint tell a wide receiver.
Speaker 2: But where could I make my bones? What could I
Speaker 2: be the best at tight end.
Speaker 5: I'm telling you, man, I'm telling you.
Speaker 3: Now, I've seen it.
Speaker 2: See HER's the fact. I give you an example. Now,
Speaker 2: if he had Tyreek speed, I was like, Okay, you're right.
Speaker 5: You don't have to have that kind of speed. That's
Speaker 5: that's necessary.
Speaker 2: No, But guys that don't have that kind of speed,
Speaker 2: what can they do? Tell the people at home? For
Speaker 2: guys that don't have Tyreek speed and they play wide receiver,
Speaker 2: what can they do with Joe? You couldn't touch him
Speaker 2: in the phone booth? They tactic there technically sound. There's
Speaker 2: a reason why Steve Larger when he retired, had all
Speaker 2: the records. He ran four seven. But he was a
Speaker 2: rock running technician. Guys that can't that aren't speed merchants.
Speaker 2: They can run the route, treat and make every route
Speaker 2: look the same. The release, the slant looks just like
Speaker 2: the quick out look just like the smoke looks, just
Speaker 2: like the over looks just like the end, the comeback.
Speaker 5: Though he fast he FO three.
Speaker 1: Three, and if you're not FO three here will be
Speaker 1: by the time. It's by the time in draft time
Speaker 1: like FO two is great. That's a that's a great
Speaker 1: tool to have. In your tool box.
Speaker 5: But you don't literally have to be Foe two to
Speaker 5: be effective. Look at Justin Jefferson, Look at you, Chase.
Speaker 2: I just, oh Joe, you're talking about the leaf receivers
Speaker 2: that run routes.
Speaker 3: You just saying you haven't seen him run.
Speaker 1: The whole time I'm having because it's not a part
Speaker 1: of their offense there, I mean their specific offense. But
Speaker 1: what I do see him? Do I know what you
Speaker 1: can do when you get that ball in his hands?
Speaker 2: I know, yes, Oh Joe, Do you know, O Joe,
Speaker 2: you know how good these dvs are if you if
Speaker 2: you can't consistently release in your chest.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, you gonna work on that. We're gonna
Speaker 1: work on that. I got you work, We got got Oh.
Speaker 3: But that's what That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: But I don't know even if his releases would ever
Speaker 2: be where his dB skills are. Some things he just
Speaker 2: got just got he just hey, he just woke up.
Speaker 2: God made that angle, that long angle. He can be fluid,
Speaker 2: He can back because normally, you know, guys that are
Speaker 2: corners that are long, you know, it's hard for them
Speaker 2: to flip the hips.
Speaker 5: He can flip his hell natural natural.
Speaker 2: He can flip his hips. And that's what you got
Speaker 2: to be able to do with yo, caause you got
Speaker 2: to be able to turn and run. You gotta be
Speaker 2: able to turn and drive. You gotta be uh uh
Speaker 2: and come forward.
Speaker 1: Hey, you nice to give him heir boy back in
Speaker 1: eighty seven.
Speaker 5: What huh ship? But I know what you're talking about.
Speaker 3: But but and I and I and I you know,
Speaker 3: I told you and Tim said this.
Speaker 2: Tim said, had I just like focused on being a
Speaker 2: wide receiver, just focused on that, I could have went
Speaker 2: the Hall of Fame, And he could have because he
Speaker 2: had that kind of thing.
Speaker 3: You got realizing the time to.
Speaker 5: Like he ain't got that running damn miss.
Speaker 3: Sometimes No he did. It didn't, it didn't. But he
Speaker 3: could fly
Speaker 2: The volume