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Speaker 2: The Buffalos were fourteen point underdog, improved the form one

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Speaker 3: Excuse me.

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Speaker 2: It's the fourth time in his three year college career

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Speaker 2: that he's done that. He struck the Heisman polls after

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Speaker 2: he picked off kJ Jefferson with a diving interception in

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Speaker 2: the third quarter. That's he was. He's transferred from Arkansas. Right,

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Speaker 2: kJ Jefferson Wasn't he at Arkansas last couple of years?

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Speaker 3: Oh Joe?

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Speaker 2: Speaking of knowledge time for money moves presented by DraftKings,

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Speaker 2: Travis Hunter hady, we moved on up, hey, hey, we

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Speaker 2: move it over up like the Jefferson. Travis Hunter now

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Speaker 2: has the third best Heisman odds. Jalen Millro from Alabama

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Speaker 2: plus two twenty five is number one. Cam Ward Miami

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Speaker 2: plus five hundred, Number two, Travis Hunter plus seven fifty

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Speaker 2: number three Dylan Gabriel Oregon plus twelve hundred. He's four. Statistically,

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Speaker 2: Hunter has put up elite numbers and receiver. He ended

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Speaker 2: the weekend ranked fourth nationally in receptions sixth and receiving

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Speaker 2: yard tied for fourth, and TD catcher with five. He

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Speaker 2: caught nine passes the day eighty nine yards and a touchdown,

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Speaker 2: Colorado came from behind with a winner of Baylor. Last week.

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Speaker 2: Hunter had the game winning forrest fumble on the gold line.

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Speaker 2: Hunter played one hundred and twenty eight snaps on Saturday.

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Speaker 2: According to Fox Ball Cast, he's averaging about one hundred

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Speaker 2: and thirty snaps per game.

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Speaker 1: When we talk about heyst and right, there's so many

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Speaker 1: different factors that go into it, but when Carvis Hunter

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Speaker 5: This is something special.

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Speaker 1: There are very few players that are able to play

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Speaker 1: The fact that Travis Hart was able to do both,

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Speaker 1: it speaks volumes. This is no disrespect to cam Ward,

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Speaker 1: This is no disrespect to Jaylemon Road and what they're

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Speaker 1: I don't think people really understand, especially those that are voting.

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Speaker 1: I don't know who did the goddamn odds.

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Speaker 3: Who's goddamn odds?

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Speaker 1: No matter what, Based on what he's done so far

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Speaker 1: It's been done before, but hasn't been done before like

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Speaker 5: A good number.

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Speaker 2: Charles Woodson did play offense, but he did not play

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Speaker 2: We're not gonna minimize Charles Wilson. He did, he became

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Speaker 2: out of the game, they're running seventy five plays and

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Speaker 2: he's only missing two or three of those players, and

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Speaker 5: Unheard of.

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Speaker 1: Yes, but young young bull condition is out this world.

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Speaker 1: Young boy, listen, much respect to Travis Hunter. You know,

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Speaker 1: I know you're gonna see this. I already gave you

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Speaker 5: Right, don't want nothing, no excuses. Any in our money

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Speaker 5: is coming straight to me, coming straight to me.

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Speaker 3: Period.

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Speaker 2: Hey, this was the most comple that I've seen them play,

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Speaker 2: But I thought this was one of the more complete

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Speaker 2: when you look at running Brewing stopping to run, getting

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Speaker 2: hell the Ballah?

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Speaker 1: They played really well. I'm happy for Prime. I'm happy

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Speaker 1: for Prime. This is what one more week you get

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Speaker 1: to you get to keep them off your back. One

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Speaker 1: and show listen, they formed one this year.

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Speaker 5: They formed one so far.

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Speaker 1: You know a lot of people say they wouldn't be,

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Speaker 1: wouldn't even be in this position. What I like, what

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Speaker 5: All they need a little time.

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Speaker 1: All they need a little time to get the right

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Speaker 5: And next year it's gonna be even better, and it's

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Speaker 1: It's gonna be a gradual build, nothing overnight, a gradual

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Speaker 5: We can see it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it had to be O Joe for the simple

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Speaker 3: fact that man, they would won it well.

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Speaker 2: And y'all expect the man to go in there and

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Speaker 2: go to the and to go to the damn Rose

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Speaker 2: Bowl or them Beach Bowl is first year and now

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Speaker 2: after a team went well, where have they ever done that?

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Speaker 5: At noell Andy?

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Speaker 3: All he all hyped.

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Speaker 2: I mean coach Saba did Coach Sabadeck win No. Twelve

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Speaker 5: Hype my ad.

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Speaker 2: It's gonna take time. And coach Saban had a bunch

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Speaker 2: of four and five star recruits. I'm not so sure

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Speaker 2: he got to Colorado. But he's gonna take some time.

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Speaker 2: But I was very impressed with the way they played today.

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Speaker 2: I mean, if you look at Ojo, they had fourteen

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Speaker 2: today of running the football. I thought they did a

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Speaker 2: a great job of getting after the quarterback, attacking the

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Speaker 3: There's nothing you know.

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Speaker 2: Look, I'm sure coach prime Is said, hey, I'm pleased

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Speaker 2: with the win. But I heard coach Saby said you

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Speaker 2: a kiss of death. I said the way. It was

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Speaker 2: the ball game. You can't let your players accept that

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Speaker 3: Get you beat. That'll get you beat.

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Speaker 2: I don't want to, Joe, I don't want to wait

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Speaker 2: I loved I love what coach Saban said. I love

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Speaker 2: the way Prime. Prime said. We can't be we can't

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Speaker 2: be happy with just winning. That's not good enough.

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Speaker 5: Who got next?

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Speaker 5: Who they got next?

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Speaker 2: Who they played next? They got at Kansas State or

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Speaker 2: at home? Their home against Kansas State? Knis State really good?

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Speaker 5: I'm gonna go. I'm gonna go to the game. Get

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you called Prime, you get I'm.

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Speaker 1: Gonna go to the game cold too, so I could

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Speaker 1: put on my Dickies Dicky overalls in from the hoodie

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Speaker 1: and my Tims.

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Speaker 3: Travis Hunter wore a bland T shirt.

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Speaker 2: After Richard Sherman comment, there was a lot of buzzs

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Speaker 3: We got that, we got said about Buddy, we got,

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Speaker 3: we got SARMs.

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Speaker 2: Okay, Okay, he said he he was saying that his

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Speaker 3: That's what he said.

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Speaker 2: Like he's an athlete playing receiver and because he's so

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Speaker 2: he's gonna make a play.

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Speaker 5: Okay. I understand.

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Speaker 3: The way he's doing. I think I think coach Uh.

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Speaker 2: I think uh time put sherm and and uh travel

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Speaker 3: He ended up moving to a defensive back. Said on

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Speaker 2: Sherman said, hell, no, you know that, right, you're talking.

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Speaker 3: Crazy, But there's been a lot.

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Speaker 2: There's been a lot you and not be Yes, he

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Speaker 2: can play packages, but nobody. I don't believe anybody thinks

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Speaker 2: he's gonna play every snap on offense, every snap on defense.

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Speaker 3: Nobody believe that.

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Speaker 2: Do we believe that he can be a defensive back

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Speaker 2: because we've seen it before. We've seen Prime do it,

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Speaker 1: Game, right, listen, you'll have to have the endurance of

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Speaker 1: But when I when I think about it, I mean

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Speaker 1: I understand what where Sherman's talking about in a sense,

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Speaker 1: From her receiver standpoint, he's so athletic and get it

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Speaker 5: Man, it's a rap. If he getting drafted, he has.

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Speaker 1: To get drafted, as I receive anyway, because that's what

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Speaker 1: the money is. That's what the money I see, Travers Hunter.

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Speaker 2: Forget the money, Joe Worthy, where forget the money? Where

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Speaker 3: Where is my best chance to be the most productive player?

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Speaker 3: I talk.

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Speaker 5: Like that he got he got to play receive one.

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Speaker 1: He got to play receiver, because you got to understand

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Speaker 1: the money is on the receiving end now. And then

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Speaker 1: the packages, the packages at the dB boom, they got

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Speaker 3: That O Joe. You think.

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Speaker 5: What package I'm saying when he when he gets to

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Speaker 5: the NFL, he gonna have small packages like that nickel.

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Speaker 5: He could be. He could be a Nigga one third.

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Speaker 2: I bet I bet you he'll play more snaps on

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Speaker 5: No, no, no, no no. Listen listen.

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Speaker 1: As his agent, as his agent, he probably gonna have me.

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Speaker 1: But as his agent, I'm telling him, Man, buddy, man,

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Speaker 1: listen here. Man, let me tell Let me tell you something.

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Speaker 1: You want to play receiver. You got receivers making thirty

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Speaker 5: And matter of fact, they got to pay you fifty

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Speaker 5: because you play both.

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Speaker 3: Sides of the ball.

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Speaker 1: We can integrate that into your contract. You know, and

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Speaker 5: To find the fine print. But what you're talking about, nah, they.

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Speaker 2: Don't you in.

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Speaker 3: The paid.

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Speaker 2: I'm just looking at it from a skill set and

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Speaker 2: where his skills are right now, he's a much better

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Speaker 1: I don't agree with you, simply for the fact that

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Speaker 2: Okay, Oko, let me how many how many comebacks? Have

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Speaker 2: how many comebacks have you seen him run? How many

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Speaker 2: comebacks have you seen him run? Well, I'm not out

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Speaker 2: what you mean. You have it.

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Speaker 3: That's a wide receiver and you haven't seen it.

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Speaker 5: Wait, wait a minute, Wait a minute, dot, don't jump

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Speaker 5: down my throat. Now, probably can probably run come back.

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Speaker 2: I say probably. I said, oh yo, how many comebacks

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Speaker 2: have you seen him run?

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Speaker 3: Maybe?

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Speaker 5: They don't have comebacks in that offense.

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Speaker 3: That you asked me?

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Speaker 5: How many come backs have I seen him run? Well,

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Speaker 3: What she wanted to say, I seen how how many digs?

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Speaker 1: I seen him un the dig? I've seen him money

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Speaker 1: didn't come out to the back door? Yeah, okay, yeah, I've seen.

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Speaker 5: Him take a I've seen him. I seen him run

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Speaker 5: catch a slant and.

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Speaker 1: Reverse and reverse field and come back out where ran

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Speaker 2: At Oh Joe, I'm just saying looking at him, study

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Speaker 2: oh Joe. He could just he just rolled out of

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Speaker 2: the way he can transition. Now you know, in order

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Speaker 2: to play receiver. These guys are choke you out here

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Speaker 2: if you can't release.

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Speaker 1: Oh see that I don't know about I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I don't know about that part of his game. I

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Speaker 1: don't know about that. His ladder moving is uh his.

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Speaker 2: He seems like a long stride. He tall, taller than

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Speaker 2: he like six three.

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Speaker 1: We could work on that. We can work on that.

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Speaker 1: He tall tall, work on that. He comes, he comes

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Speaker 1: training with me, training me for three months. Man, listen,

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Speaker 1: I get him open into the phone booth. I get

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Speaker 3: Six.

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Speaker 1: All we got to do is showing up your gate,

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Speaker 5: Get out that dead area off the line, then you

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Speaker 3: I just like I said, I think he's phenomenal.

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Speaker 2: He's as good as athlete that I've seen with my

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Speaker 3: Like I said, but.

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Speaker 2: Your I was in the year, came into year after time,

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Speaker 2: the greatest athletes. You know, when you can play a

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Speaker 5: And I played three. But go ahead, Yeah, I'm with you.

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Speaker 2: I mean, everybody in NFL played two sports three sports

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Speaker 3: But to do a professional.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so's it's unbelievable. Like I said, I I just

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Speaker 2: I just want to see him. I think he's better suited.

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Speaker 2: At the end of the day, he's gonna I don't

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Speaker 2: think team's gonna help him make that decision. They gonna say, son,

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Speaker 2: we're gonna give you some packages on the officer side

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Speaker 2: But where could I make my bones? What could I

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Speaker 5: I'm telling you, man, I'm telling you.

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Speaker 3: Now, I've seen it.

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Speaker 2: See HER's the fact. I give you an example. Now,

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Speaker 5: You don't have to have that kind of speed. That's

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Speaker 2: No, But guys that don't have that kind of speed,

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Speaker 2: what can they do with Joe? You couldn't touch him

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Speaker 2: in the phone booth? They tactic there technically sound. There's

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Speaker 2: They can run the route, treat and make every route

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Speaker 2: look the same. The release, the slant looks just like

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Speaker 2: the quick out look just like the smoke looks, just

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Speaker 5: Though he fast he FO three.

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Speaker 1: Three, and if you're not FO three here will be

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Speaker 1: by the time. It's by the time in draft time

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Speaker 1: like FO two is great. That's a that's a great

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Speaker 5: But you don't literally have to be Foe two to

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Speaker 2: I just, oh Joe, you're talking about the leaf receivers

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Speaker 3: You just saying you haven't seen him run.

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Speaker 1: The whole time I'm having because it's not a part

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Speaker 1: what I do see him? Do I know what you

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Speaker 2: I know, yes, Oh Joe, Do you know, O Joe,

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Speaker 2: you know how good these dvs are if you if

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, you gonna work on that. We're gonna

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Speaker 1: work on that. I got you work, We got got Oh.

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Speaker 3: But that's what That's what I'm saying.

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Speaker 2: But I don't know even if his releases would ever

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Speaker 2: God made that angle, that long angle. He can be fluid,

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Speaker 2: He can back because normally, you know, guys that are

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Speaker 5: He can flip his hell natural natural.

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Speaker 2: He can flip his hips. And that's what you got

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Speaker 2: to be able to do with yo, caause you got

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Speaker 2: to be able to turn and run. You gotta be

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Speaker 2: and come forward.

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Speaker 1: Hey, you nice to give him heir boy back in

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Speaker 1: eighty seven.

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Speaker 5: What huh ship? But I know what you're talking about.

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Speaker 3: But but and I and I and I you know,

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Speaker 3: I told you and Tim said this.

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Speaker 2: Tim said, had I just like focused on being a

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Speaker 2: the Hall of Fame, And he could have because he

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Speaker 3: You got realizing the time to.

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Speaker 5: Like he ain't got that running damn miss.

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Speaker 3: Sometimes No he did. It didn't, it didn't. But he

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