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Speaker 2: What is going on everybody? How are we doing? John

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Speaker 2: Middlecoff three and Out podcast. Hopefully everyone's doing well, living

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Speaker 2: having a great week. I recorded last week at the end,

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Speaker 2: we're gonna do. So this will be our talk with

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Speaker 2: Stucky from all things gambling, I mean, the line hasn't changed.

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Speaker 2: The storylines and the themes of these two teams obviously haven't changed.

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Speaker 2: We don't have much clarity on the Drake may injury.

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Speaker 2: I mean he's gonna play as Sam donold. I was

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Speaker 2: told he was hurt and then his oblique looked fine.

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Speaker 2: He was slaying it all over the last couple of weeks.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, we'll hit everything from betting on the game,

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Speaker 2: to the trends to some props. We'll kind of dive

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Speaker 2: deep into this matchup. Which super Bowl sixty I almost

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Speaker 2: said San Francisco, California. The Super Bowl festivities are in

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Speaker 2: San Francisco. The game is in Santa Clara Levi Stadium,

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Speaker 2: which I've seen a lot of football games there, and

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Speaker 2: I actually saw the one and only Super Bowl that

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Speaker 2: they hosted when the Broncos upset the Panthers. It didn't

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Speaker 2: feel like an upset to me, but they technically, by

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Speaker 2: gambling standpoint, were a several point underdog. I think it

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Speaker 2: and the rest history. And this one's for Pat, as

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Speaker 2: John Alway said when Jim Nance handed him the trophy

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Speaker 2: can watch the John Elway documentary on Netflix, where you

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Speaker 2: which is a little Football Daily Talk as we do

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Speaker 2: right here, So let's dive into Tustuckey back again bittersweet

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Speaker 2: because the season is coming to an end. But before

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Speaker 2: we hit record, we were talking college basketball. We were

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Speaker 2: talking Mario Christobal, who you know, Dabo goes on this

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Speaker 2: rant about Ole Miss, But the University of Miami, they

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Speaker 2: are they will steal any player in their path. And

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Speaker 2: obviously we've got the Super Bowl because Seattle takes on

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Speaker 2: the New England Patriots at Levi Stadium where the last

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Speaker 2: time San Francisco hosted that bad boy, there was I

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Speaker 2: don't want to say a big upset, but the Denver

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Speaker 2: Bronco were an underdog against the Carolina Panthers, and your

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Speaker 2: boy who attended that game at the time, I mean

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Speaker 2: I definitely didn't have enough money to put I think

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Speaker 2: I put a total of a round five thousand dollars

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Speaker 2: That was badass. And now we get a game kind.

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Speaker 1: Of right at the Super Bowl.

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Speaker 2: No, this that was Denver Seattle, This was like, ye

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Speaker 1: That was that Cam Newton, don't go after the ball one.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, this was the I think the first drive. Peyton

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Speaker 2: And then I felt so comfortable with Denver because I

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Speaker 2: Their defense was incredible. Their their d line, Von Miller

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Speaker 2: Trevathan Brandon Marshall, all their dbs, TJ. Ward, They had

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Speaker 1: Funny thing about that Super Bowl, I mean there's a

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Speaker 2: You know, it was kind of getting weird, but it

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Speaker 2: Many defensive players have ever won the MVP definitely in

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Speaker 2: What's his name on the Bucks?

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Speaker 1: Dexter Jackson won it on the Bucks. And the weird

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Speaker 2: One of the guys on the Cowboys won it dB

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Speaker 1: Is that it? Yeah, and then there was a defensive

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Speaker 2: Is that possible in football like it is in hockey.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, it's pretty it's amazing to think. I mean,

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Speaker 2: I feel like the Super Bowl MVP. I don't know.

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Speaker 2: It's like when you bring up Cooper Cup. Maybe it's

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Speaker 2: part of twenty eight three. It's like probably one of

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Speaker 2: Cooper Cup, most people don't really remember. Like if you

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Speaker 2: you think people would be like, oh, that's super Bowl MVP.

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Speaker 1: No, that's true. I mean, yeah, the Super Bowl MVP.

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Speaker 1: You had that bomb, you had Bon Miller in twenty sixteen,

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Speaker 2: Well, the quarterbacks hurt. Well, I mean obviously we've seen Donald,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, May, I mean they say there could be a shoulder.

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Speaker 2: Seattle hasn't lost a game since the middle of November.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but that, I mean that game was so huge

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Speaker 1: that it that it was Kuka who had twelve catches

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Speaker 1: of the game was Shaheed for that punt return that

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Speaker 1: But I could see this being one where a defensive

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Speaker 1: look like Malcolm Smith and Dexter Jackson have won.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, I mean, isn't Seattle's defense kind of built

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean even Warres, he's the guys making a

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Speaker 1: for one game. But dating back to Super Bowl thirty

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Speaker 1: a spread of four and a half. For more, underdog

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Speaker 1: a half. But it closed three. It doesn't count, but

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Speaker 1: I lost. That's that's a twenty eight three game. You

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Speaker 1: mentioned that being one of the most famous score that game.

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Speaker 1: I lost the under and the Falcons plus four and

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Speaker 1: a half, one of my my big one of the

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Speaker 1: start of this day, my biggest bets ever, one of

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Speaker 1: the most painful bet and then became like the most

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Speaker 1: famous game that I got to hear about forever. But

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Speaker 1: the Patriots scored, they won by six.

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Speaker 2: I think it was they scored over time.

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Speaker 1: They scored, they got the won the coin toss, and

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Speaker 1: I knew I think it was thirty seven thirty one

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Speaker 1: or thirty four twenty eight, thirty four twenty eight. The

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Speaker 1: Falcons didn't score after being of twenty eight three. So

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Speaker 1: underdogs have been really good in the Super Bowl above

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Speaker 1: a field goal. I you know, the thing is that

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Speaker 1: I've struggled to remember a team like the Patriots where

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Speaker 1: I still don't feel that confident in my rating for

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Speaker 1: them because the you know we've had, I mean, number one,

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Speaker 1: they've had the easiest regular season schedule of the past

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Speaker 1: twenty five years, and that's just based on you know,

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Speaker 1: looking at opposing team record, strength of teams, you throw

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Speaker 1: on all the backups they faced. It's even easier than that.

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Speaker 1: So like during the regular season, we didn't get a

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Speaker 1: great we didn't got many data points against number one

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Speaker 1: real quarterbacks and number two real defenses, Like they didn't

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Speaker 1: face the top ten defense in my eyes the entire

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Speaker 1: regular season. Now they go into the playoffs, they face

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Speaker 1: some good defenses. And May has struggled, but he hasn't

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Speaker 1: to do much because the offenses they've faced have been compromised.

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Speaker 1: And then they get the ACE Championship game against a

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Speaker 1: backup quarterback, and you get the Texans with all their

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Speaker 1: injuries and their offensive line injuries and Stroud just being a disaster.

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Speaker 1: Herbert was a disaster and their offensive line wasn't a

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Speaker 1: full strength. So still, like the Act, the number of

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Speaker 1: like real data points against a real team are lacking.

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Speaker 2: Now.

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Speaker 1: You do have to give them credit for like blowing

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Speaker 1: out of the teams during the regular season. But the

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Speaker 1: thing that I worry about most with the Patriots is

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Speaker 1: because I do kind of like the under here. I

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Speaker 1: think this will be a lower scoring game. I do

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Speaker 1: think both teams are gonna come out and these and

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Speaker 1: Super Bowls historically have started off really slow. And I

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Speaker 1: used to be a total of forty five and a

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Speaker 1: half forty six of where it's at now. Used to

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Speaker 1: be able to get like ten under ten. I would

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Speaker 1: always play under ten under ten and a half in

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Speaker 1: the first quarter. It hit for years, but now they

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Speaker 1: books are keen to it. I think the first quarter

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Speaker 1: total is like eight and a half, But if you

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Speaker 1: go back historically, I think the first quarters of average

489
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Speaker 1: like six or seven points over a long stretch. There

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Speaker 1: are so many that just are three nothings zero zero

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Speaker 1: seven zero. So I think you know you have Drake

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Speaker 1: May who had fumble issues, You've had Sam Darnold was

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Speaker 1: a turnover issues in the past. Both teams, I think

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Speaker 1: trust their defenses, so I could see both coming out

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Speaker 1: and just feeling the game out, not wanting to make

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Speaker 1: a mistake right, and then it could potentially open up more,

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Speaker 1: you know, and if one of these teams has to

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Speaker 1: play from way behind, that's when I would worry more

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Speaker 1: about turnovers. But I do think this could start slow,

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Speaker 1: and I think this will be like a field position battle.

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Speaker 1: I think both defensive staffs will have a really good

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Speaker 1: game plan. And I do the big my biggest concern

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Speaker 1: for the Patriots, So like what I do trust for

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Speaker 1: both of these teams. Run defenses are very good. I

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Speaker 1: mentioned before the Patriots at full strength, their run defense

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Speaker 1: is legit. They had a little down tick late in

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Speaker 1: the season when Milton Williams was hurt Tonga their nose tackle,

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Speaker 1: they had linebacker injuries, but when they've been at full strength,

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Speaker 1: they've been a lead against the run and throughout the

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Speaker 1: play Milton Williams.

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Speaker 2: Remember they got like, damn they gave him twenty four

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Speaker 2: million dollars a year. I mean he's been really good

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Speaker 2: for him when he's been on the field.

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Speaker 1: Yes, Yeah, he's been a difference maker. And the Seahawks

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Speaker 1: run defense is historically good. So I don't think either

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Speaker 1: team's gonna have much success running the ball. So then

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Speaker 1: it's gonna come down to Donald. So I think there's

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Speaker 1: gonna be some known passing situations to the Patriots Blitz.

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Speaker 1: They've been blitzing at like forty forty five percent, really

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Speaker 1: high over past four games, way higher than they have

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Speaker 1: all regular season. Now you were playing in the playoffs,

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Speaker 1: you know, backup quarterback the Chargers ridiculous horrible offensive line.

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Speaker 1: The Texans, you know, Shroud struggles against the Blitz, they

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Speaker 1: had offensive line injuries. Do they do that here? Donald's

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Speaker 1: been pretty good against the Blitz. I don't know how

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Speaker 1: do they handle JSN. But this is gonna come down

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Speaker 1: to each quarterback because I don't think either running game

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Speaker 1: is going to consistently move the ball. And what my

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Speaker 1: biggest concern for the Patriots is their offensive line and

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Speaker 1: how it will hold up against the Seahawk defense. And

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Speaker 1: then may going up against whatever McDonald has cooked up.

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Speaker 1: But whenever the Patriots have faced a defensive line that

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Speaker 1: can get pressure without blitz and they've struggled, especially in

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Speaker 1: the left side. And is that when the turnovers come,

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Speaker 1: that's when seat the Seahawks can start smelling blood. And

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Speaker 1: that that's my biggest concern for the Patriots is how

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Speaker 1: does their offensive line hold up and then can can

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Speaker 1: may avoid mistakes, but if the Patriots can can get

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Speaker 1: out to a lead, you know, and then use their

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Speaker 1: different They stunt a lot, which is given the Seattle

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Speaker 1: offensive line some issues this year. But if they can,

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Speaker 1: like time, some blitzes, you know, force, I would just

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Speaker 1: take jess n Away, force darnaldt some throws. I think

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Speaker 1: that's their path in a lower scoring game. One other

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Speaker 1: thing I'll mention is special teams big advantage for Seattle,

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Speaker 1: New England. Special teams aren't bad. They're not elite, you know,

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Speaker 1: you have Patriots have an elite punt returner in Jones.

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Speaker 1: Their punter's been out hit a bad game last week,

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Speaker 1: But yeah, overtime was nice, but the double overtime would

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Speaker 1: is never gonna happen though, But in triple overtime, I

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Speaker 1: think if it goes a triple done, then they kick

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Speaker 1: off again like starts over. I don't know, I doubt

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Speaker 1: will ever see that. So yeah, I don't mind that problem.

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Speaker 1: My only concern would be May is May's turnovers fumbles,

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Speaker 1: are his turnovers the strip variety?

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Speaker 2: But yeah, because getting fucking warked.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's how the Patriots managed that. It's gonna be

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Speaker 1: really interesting. I do think one of the avenues to

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Speaker 1: part of that's by design. You know, they kind of

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Speaker 1: They they switched up last week, play a little bit

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Speaker 1: more man than usual. But they might so he might

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Speaker 1: maybe focus more. But the Seahawks defense, they allow you

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Speaker 1: They want to take away the explosive play, force you

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Speaker 1: to go all the way down the field on a

645
00:34:47,760 --> 00:34:49,759
Speaker 1: you know, thirteen to fourteen play drive and score on

646
00:34:49,800 --> 00:34:55,960
Speaker 1: that defense. And so tight ends have had huge days.

647
00:34:56,040 --> 00:35:00,320
Speaker 1: And Hunter Enry the last year against this Seahawks defense

648
00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:02,440
Speaker 1: is McDonald defense. I wasn't his McDonald didn't have all

649
00:35:02,480 --> 00:35:04,040
Speaker 1: of his pieces yet, but he had, but I think

650
00:35:04,080 --> 00:35:06,000
Speaker 1: nine catches for one hundred and eight yards or something

651
00:35:06,640 --> 00:35:10,480
Speaker 1: in the regular season. So I think that the one

652
00:35:10,480 --> 00:35:13,359
Speaker 1: of the ways that you you know, number one May

653
00:35:13,440 --> 00:35:16,160
Speaker 1: is going to be under fire, under pressure, so that

654
00:35:16,320 --> 00:35:19,680
Speaker 1: safety valve. I think there's gonna be more design throws

655
00:35:19,719 --> 00:35:21,880
Speaker 1: for Henry. The Siaoks also don't blitz a ton, so

656
00:35:21,920 --> 00:35:24,799
Speaker 1: you don't need, you know, the protect in there, the

657
00:35:24,840 --> 00:35:27,960
Speaker 1: protection in there as much. So I think Henry will

658
00:35:27,960 --> 00:35:30,359
Speaker 1: have a pretty big day and he'll have a big, big,

659
00:35:30,360 --> 00:35:34,319
Speaker 1: long catch up the seam at one point. So I

660
00:35:34,440 --> 00:35:37,880
Speaker 1: like some some Henry props, But UH be curious to

661
00:35:37,880 --> 00:35:43,320
Speaker 1: see what McDaniel does to get May going avoid that pressure.

662
00:35:44,040 --> 00:35:47,359
Speaker 1: What does the screen game look like? But I think

663
00:35:47,400 --> 00:35:49,840
Speaker 1: the tight ends are gonna because I just I don't

664
00:35:50,239 --> 00:35:56,279
Speaker 1: know if the Patriots receivers can consistently get separation on

665
00:35:56,560 --> 00:36:00,719
Speaker 1: a down by down basis against this Seattle secondary. This

666
00:36:00,760 --> 00:36:03,239
Speaker 1: isn't Nikkoua and Adams out there.

667
00:36:04,560 --> 00:36:07,799
Speaker 2: Well, Booty was one because they're gonna have to take

668
00:36:07,800 --> 00:36:10,400
Speaker 2: some shots. It's kind of how they've operated right offensively.

669
00:36:10,440 --> 00:36:12,080
Speaker 2: And he's a he's a good deep ball thrower.

670
00:36:12,120 --> 00:36:12,279
Speaker 1: I know.

671
00:36:12,320 --> 00:36:14,360
Speaker 2: I don't hold the Denver game against him. When it

672
00:36:14,400 --> 00:36:16,759
Speaker 2: was fucking he threw one out route there was that

673
00:36:16,920 --> 00:36:19,839
Speaker 2: looked like you know, Trey Lance or something, and then

674
00:36:19,880 --> 00:36:22,960
Speaker 2: they showed the behind view and the wind. It looked

675
00:36:22,960 --> 00:36:25,520
Speaker 2: like ninety miles an hour, snow going everywhere. It's like

676
00:36:25,960 --> 00:36:28,040
Speaker 2: you can't complete anything. I don't know if you saw

677
00:36:28,080 --> 00:36:29,920
Speaker 2: that clip where he looks at Josh, He's like, this

678
00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:34,880
Speaker 2: is impossible. Yeah, he's he's been complaining. He's just saying, like,

679
00:36:34,880 --> 00:36:37,600
Speaker 2: what are we supposed to do? That game was a joke,

680
00:36:38,400 --> 00:36:41,200
Speaker 2: but you know, I do think you know, he's clearly

681
00:36:41,239 --> 00:36:43,400
Speaker 2: he force fed him the ball. It didn't work in

682
00:36:43,440 --> 00:36:47,000
Speaker 2: that game with Booty against Denver. He had six touchdowns

683
00:36:47,000 --> 00:36:51,120
Speaker 2: this year. I listen, I put some of Pukah's production

684
00:36:51,200 --> 00:36:53,759
Speaker 2: against Seattle. Feels like kind of shorter routes that he's

685
00:36:53,840 --> 00:36:56,759
Speaker 2: taken after the catch. But I mean they they were

686
00:36:56,800 --> 00:36:58,680
Speaker 2: going after him with those two guys, like you said,

687
00:36:58,680 --> 00:37:01,440
Speaker 2: I mean, they're better than Booty. He clearly feels like

688
00:37:01,560 --> 00:37:04,960
Speaker 2: Drake likes him and does Patriots like him? And plus

689
00:37:04,960 --> 00:37:07,680
Speaker 2: three twenty five. I looked on hard Rock bet today.

690
00:37:07,680 --> 00:37:09,719
Speaker 2: It's pretty good odds for a guy that you know

691
00:37:10,080 --> 00:37:13,440
Speaker 2: they're going to target down the field. Well, the works

692
00:37:13,520 --> 00:37:14,680
Speaker 2: or not is yet to be seen.

693
00:37:15,480 --> 00:37:19,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean that's that's a matchup to watch. Seattle's

694
00:37:19,960 --> 00:37:22,959
Speaker 1: you know, secondary not letting up explosives against Drake May, who,

695
00:37:24,000 --> 00:37:26,200
Speaker 1: no question as one of the best deep balls in

696
00:37:26,239 --> 00:37:30,960
Speaker 1: the NFL pinpoint accuracy, throws a beautiful deep ball, and

697
00:37:31,840 --> 00:37:34,000
Speaker 1: he's gonna take I mean all year, he will take

698
00:37:34,080 --> 00:37:38,880
Speaker 1: his shots. Now, he got a little gun shy, and

699
00:37:38,920 --> 00:37:43,080
Speaker 1: I think that the Patriots did that by design last

700
00:37:43,080 --> 00:37:46,560
Speaker 1: week against you know, there was the weather, but even

701
00:37:46,640 --> 00:37:50,280
Speaker 1: early I think they were like, look, we're playing jarrets

702
00:37:50,280 --> 00:37:52,279
Speaker 1: that we're not losing this game. Like he saw some

703
00:37:52,360 --> 00:37:54,719
Speaker 1: of the the third downs where they rolled him out

704
00:37:54,719 --> 00:37:57,399
Speaker 1: and he just like threw it away runs on third

705
00:37:57,400 --> 00:37:59,760
Speaker 1: and long. That's not gonna be the case here unless

706
00:37:59,760 --> 00:38:01,359
Speaker 1: this is just like a you know, ten to seven

707
00:38:01,440 --> 00:38:03,919
Speaker 1: game in the third or fourth quarter. So he's gonna

708
00:38:03,920 --> 00:38:09,200
Speaker 1: take his shots here, and Booty is the most likely

709
00:38:10,840 --> 00:38:15,320
Speaker 1: target to hit those big passes. So yeah, that I

710
00:38:15,600 --> 00:38:18,840
Speaker 1: can see him having one or two big plays that

711
00:38:19,320 --> 00:38:23,040
Speaker 1: end up in the end zone, because mate, he's gonna have.

712
00:38:23,360 --> 00:38:26,880
Speaker 1: They're not gonna be able to consistently throw the ball,

713
00:38:28,239 --> 00:38:31,799
Speaker 1: at least I don't think so consistently. Just move the

714
00:38:31,880 --> 00:38:35,480
Speaker 1: chains by throwing short to intermediate passes against this defense

715
00:38:35,560 --> 00:38:39,960
Speaker 1: with their receivers, they're gonna have to pick up enough

716
00:38:40,120 --> 00:38:45,680
Speaker 1: plays of the chunk variety to just avoid having to

717
00:38:46,239 --> 00:38:50,600
Speaker 1: gruelingly go down the field against the Seattle defense. So yeah,

718
00:38:50,640 --> 00:38:53,719
Speaker 1: Booty would definitely be the best candidate for that, So

719
00:38:53,960 --> 00:38:57,200
Speaker 1: I don't mind that. Look, I also one crack one

720
00:38:57,239 --> 00:38:59,080
Speaker 1: that I don't know. I've only seen it at one

721
00:38:59,120 --> 00:39:03,719
Speaker 1: book out there. It'll be more widely available. I like

722
00:39:04,920 --> 00:39:06,960
Speaker 1: this is way in the weeds, but I like Seattle

723
00:39:08,160 --> 00:39:13,520
Speaker 1: over four and a half players to have a rush attempt.

724
00:39:14,560 --> 00:39:19,600
Speaker 1: So you're gonna have Kenneth Walker, Sam Polani their backup

725
00:39:19,640 --> 00:39:22,399
Speaker 1: will get a carry. Darnold will have at least one

726
00:39:23,760 --> 00:39:26,520
Speaker 1: or he should why not, but you know he usually

727
00:39:26,520 --> 00:39:29,200
Speaker 1: has a couple. You can have a need to. I

728
00:39:29,239 --> 00:39:31,400
Speaker 1: think they're gonna get one of their receivers. This is

729
00:39:31,440 --> 00:39:34,920
Speaker 1: when you get creative. So like I imagine, Shaheed will

730
00:39:34,920 --> 00:39:37,360
Speaker 1: probably get an end a round or some type of carry,

731
00:39:38,239 --> 00:39:43,680
Speaker 1: and then you're gonna have a j Barner will most

732
00:39:43,719 --> 00:39:45,960
Speaker 1: likely be doing their their sneaks. And this is you

733
00:39:46,040 --> 00:39:48,080
Speaker 1: don't not use him here in the Super Bowl when

734
00:39:48,080 --> 00:39:50,600
Speaker 1: it's third and one, fourth and one, you're they use

735
00:39:50,640 --> 00:39:54,719
Speaker 1: him for the touch push here. So and barn is

736
00:39:54,719 --> 00:39:58,719
Speaker 1: a sneaky touchdown bet because of that. Yeah, because if

737
00:39:58,719 --> 00:40:03,319
Speaker 1: they're at the one Patriots run, he's been really good.

738
00:40:04,040 --> 00:40:08,279
Speaker 1: I imagine Barner will have a chance, and we'll have

739
00:40:08,320 --> 00:40:11,520
Speaker 1: a chance in the passing game too. The Patriots one

740
00:40:11,520 --> 00:40:15,560
Speaker 1: of their weaknesses by far as their linebacker's ability to

741
00:40:16,000 --> 00:40:19,200
Speaker 1: their ability to cover in space. So Barner in the

742
00:40:19,239 --> 00:40:22,560
Speaker 1: red zone, you never know what the Seattle tight ends

743
00:40:22,600 --> 00:40:25,239
Speaker 1: and a Royal and who's oh they're gonna be throwing to.

744
00:40:25,320 --> 00:40:30,440
Speaker 1: But Barner I think you know all year he's been

745
00:40:30,480 --> 00:40:33,160
Speaker 1: one of Donald's favorite red zone targets and then he

746
00:40:33,239 --> 00:40:37,560
Speaker 1: also could get in via sneak So I like him

747
00:40:37,560 --> 00:40:39,759
Speaker 1: as a as a touchdown. Look, if you're looking for

748
00:40:40,600 --> 00:40:42,839
Speaker 1: someone that's not the most obvious guy.

749
00:40:43,680 --> 00:40:45,359
Speaker 2: If I would have told you like three years ago

750
00:40:45,480 --> 00:40:48,239
Speaker 2: that going into a super Bowl this team was the

751
00:40:48,320 --> 00:40:51,720
Speaker 2: number one seed, they just took out their two rivals

752
00:40:51,760 --> 00:40:54,040
Speaker 2: and Sam Donald is the heavy favorite to be the

753
00:40:54,040 --> 00:40:57,319
Speaker 2: Super Bowl MVP, how do people would have believed me?

754
00:40:58,320 --> 00:41:01,799
Speaker 1: Yeah? I would have laughed in your face. I mean,

755
00:41:01,840 --> 00:41:07,640
Speaker 1: think about saying two three years ago, Sam Donald will

756
00:41:07,680 --> 00:41:10,759
Speaker 1: be the MVP favorite in the Super Bowl against the Patriots. Like,

757
00:41:10,800 --> 00:41:12,880
Speaker 1: think about where the Patriots were a couple of years ago.

758
00:41:13,840 --> 00:41:17,440
Speaker 1: Like this is a crazy, crazy super Bowl. I know

759
00:41:17,480 --> 00:41:21,319
Speaker 1: it's the Patriots, but like they were, and we get

760
00:41:21,360 --> 00:41:25,600
Speaker 1: the Patriots again. But it's basically been like the Chiefs,

761
00:41:25,600 --> 00:41:26,840
Speaker 1: and we have had a lot of the Chiefs and

762
00:41:26,920 --> 00:41:29,680
Speaker 1: Eagles and forty nine ers, Like this is a pretty

763
00:41:29,680 --> 00:41:34,560
Speaker 1: shocking super Bowl result with Sam Donald and how far

764
00:41:34,640 --> 00:41:38,000
Speaker 1: he's come now, A lot of that's on the defense,

765
00:41:38,320 --> 00:41:41,960
Speaker 1: but he's certainly played well and last week, I mean

766
00:41:43,239 --> 00:41:48,400
Speaker 1: he went throw for throw with Donald. Because the Rams

767
00:41:48,400 --> 00:41:56,160
Speaker 1: offense clearly has is the kryptonite for Seattle's defense, and

768
00:41:56,280 --> 00:41:59,120
Speaker 1: usually like it doesn't sometimes when you just have elite,

769
00:41:59,120 --> 00:42:02,120
Speaker 1: elite receivers, you know, Hall of Fame receivers, and a

770
00:42:02,160 --> 00:42:05,920
Speaker 1: Hall of Fame quarterback and a you know, elite play caller,

771
00:42:07,160 --> 00:42:10,640
Speaker 1: there's no defense for that, right, Like if you're just

772
00:42:10,680 --> 00:42:13,600
Speaker 1: making throw elite throws and guys you can't you can't

773
00:42:13,600 --> 00:42:16,280
Speaker 1: cover Nikoua and Adams and they're gonna make contested catches.

774
00:42:17,680 --> 00:42:21,640
Speaker 1: Can may get on a hot streak like that, maybe,

775
00:42:21,640 --> 00:42:23,480
Speaker 1: but he doesn't have the offensive line that the Rams do,

776
00:42:23,560 --> 00:42:27,520
Speaker 1: and he doesn't have the receivers, and he's nowhere close

777
00:42:27,560 --> 00:42:31,960
Speaker 1: to his experienced as Stafford. So it's hard to see

778
00:42:32,320 --> 00:42:38,880
Speaker 1: the Patriots doing what the Rams did last week. So

779
00:42:39,520 --> 00:42:42,399
Speaker 1: the Patriots that have to win this game, I would

780
00:42:42,440 --> 00:42:47,280
Speaker 1: say twenty to seventeen. That has to be there.

781
00:42:47,520 --> 00:42:49,279
Speaker 2: Are you taking the Pats and the Boys?

782
00:42:49,960 --> 00:42:52,400
Speaker 1: I don't know. I thought like three and a half

783
00:42:52,560 --> 00:42:56,080
Speaker 1: was fair. I mean that was the look aheadline. It's

784
00:42:56,120 --> 00:42:59,600
Speaker 1: not the most efficient line. Like if this got the six,

785
00:42:59,640 --> 00:43:01,880
Speaker 1: I don't think. Well it got to like five, I

786
00:43:01,960 --> 00:43:05,239
Speaker 1: was waiting. I definitely would have bet the Pats, but

787
00:43:05,640 --> 00:43:07,400
Speaker 1: you know, it got to it was at three and

788
00:43:07,440 --> 00:43:10,120
Speaker 1: a half. The Patriots won. They didn't have to do anything. So,

789
00:43:10,160 --> 00:43:12,520
Speaker 1: like I didn't take too much from that game last

790
00:43:12,520 --> 00:43:15,200
Speaker 1: week in the Blizzard and the Seahawks, It's not like

791
00:43:15,239 --> 00:43:17,239
Speaker 1: I upgraded them a ton. I mean that was a

792
00:43:17,280 --> 00:43:19,919
Speaker 1: coin flip game. Yeah, I mean they were out game

793
00:43:20,000 --> 00:43:23,239
Speaker 1: four eighty to three ninety. They gave up eight point

794
00:43:23,239 --> 00:43:26,000
Speaker 1: three yards per play, only average six Like the Rams

795
00:43:26,080 --> 00:43:27,839
Speaker 1: arguably were better on the play by places. They muffed

796
00:43:27,840 --> 00:43:30,960
Speaker 1: the punt, I got stopped on fourth down, and they

797
00:43:31,239 --> 00:43:33,839
Speaker 1: sold a chance to win it. Their special teams really

798
00:43:33,880 --> 00:43:40,400
Speaker 1: let them down. And so yeah, it's not like I

799
00:43:40,480 --> 00:43:43,520
Speaker 1: upgraded the Seahawks a ton from that game, so I thought,

800
00:43:43,520 --> 00:43:45,200
Speaker 1: like three and a half will be fair. But again,

801
00:43:45,320 --> 00:43:49,759
Speaker 1: I just don't have that much confidence in that where

802
00:43:49,760 --> 00:43:53,080
Speaker 1: I rate the Patriots because, like the the amount of

803
00:43:53,360 --> 00:43:55,640
Speaker 1: real data points I have with this team is so small,

804
00:43:55,680 --> 00:43:57,600
Speaker 1: and I do have that concern that I know they're

805
00:43:57,640 --> 00:43:58,759
Speaker 1: not gonna be able to run it, or at least

806
00:43:58,760 --> 00:44:00,880
Speaker 1: I g I feel strongly that they won't be able to.

807
00:44:02,080 --> 00:44:04,319
Speaker 1: And then I don't know how the receivers are going

808
00:44:04,360 --> 00:44:08,200
Speaker 1: to get separation consistently. And then I don't know how

809
00:44:08,239 --> 00:44:11,319
Speaker 1: May is not going to be pressured consistently on known

810
00:44:11,360 --> 00:44:14,160
Speaker 1: passing downs and give McDonald with two weeks to prepare.

811
00:44:15,440 --> 00:44:18,439
Speaker 1: So it's that all leads me to believe it's gonna

812
00:44:18,440 --> 00:44:20,879
Speaker 1: be a tough sledding for the Patriots offense. Now can

813
00:44:20,920 --> 00:44:23,080
Speaker 1: their defense? I think their defense can keep them in

814
00:44:23,120 --> 00:44:25,680
Speaker 1: this game, right two weeks to prepare for this staff,

815
00:44:26,280 --> 00:44:28,040
Speaker 1: I think they're gonna just take away Jess and at

816
00:44:28,120 --> 00:44:31,000
Speaker 1: least I think that's what they're gonna do. Their Rundy's good.

817
00:44:31,760 --> 00:44:34,640
Speaker 1: I think that's gonna make it tough. Their stunts, their

818
00:44:34,680 --> 00:44:37,840
Speaker 1: blitz packages can maybe give Donald some issues. So I

819
00:44:37,840 --> 00:44:41,120
Speaker 1: think their defense keeping them. So my my strongest play

820
00:44:41,160 --> 00:44:43,600
Speaker 1: is probably under but as a result of I think

821
00:44:43,600 --> 00:44:46,680
Speaker 1: it's lower scoring than I would lean towards the dog

822
00:44:46,719 --> 00:44:49,759
Speaker 1: a bit more. But I also worried about special teams because

823
00:44:50,040 --> 00:44:53,000
Speaker 1: that's that could swing it in Seattle's favor too. But

824
00:44:53,120 --> 00:44:56,440
Speaker 1: it's just crazy that the Patriots are here and it's like,

825
00:44:58,600 --> 00:45:02,239
Speaker 1: what complete team do they play?

826
00:45:01,480 --> 00:45:04,319
Speaker 2: If they were to pull off this upset and win,

827
00:45:04,480 --> 00:45:07,640
Speaker 2: I think Bill's fans wouldn't even would be just they

828
00:45:07,680 --> 00:45:11,000
Speaker 2: might just quit football. It'd be tough that that that one.

829
00:45:11,080 --> 00:45:12,560
Speaker 2: I think it would hurt them the most.

830
00:45:13,000 --> 00:45:15,160
Speaker 1: You know, it would hurt Raidings fans at the Seahawks

831
00:45:15,160 --> 00:45:17,720
Speaker 1: win mc donald, it's the one that got away.

832
00:45:18,560 --> 00:45:21,120
Speaker 2: Do you think that is a little I was watching

833
00:45:22,000 --> 00:45:24,520
Speaker 2: some of the Mintor press conference today. He's not I

834
00:45:24,520 --> 00:45:27,120
Speaker 2: wouldn't say, a big press conference guy. Not like he's

835
00:45:27,480 --> 00:45:31,480
Speaker 2: dumb talking, But there's just I don't know, it's just yeah,

836
00:45:31,520 --> 00:45:34,200
Speaker 2: it's not I'm not judging him on that moment. But

837
00:45:35,480 --> 00:45:37,360
Speaker 2: Bowls last year, it's like, God, if they could do

838
00:45:37,400 --> 00:45:39,000
Speaker 2: that over again, they just would have fired him and

839
00:45:39,000 --> 00:45:42,320
Speaker 2: got with Liam. Do you think looking back they regret,

840
00:45:42,520 --> 00:45:44,920
Speaker 2: like they were just in the AFC Championship game. But

841
00:45:45,080 --> 00:45:46,799
Speaker 2: if they had to do over, would they have just

842
00:45:46,800 --> 00:45:48,920
Speaker 2: fired John Horridball right then and hired Mike McDonald.

843
00:45:49,520 --> 00:45:54,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure. Uh yeah, it's it's it's unfortunate.

844
00:45:55,160 --> 00:45:57,200
Speaker 2: Mintor could be like the light version of him. He's

845
00:45:57,200 --> 00:45:58,040
Speaker 2: clearly pretty good.

846
00:45:58,239 --> 00:46:00,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think Mintor was a good high with McDonald

847
00:46:00,640 --> 00:46:04,080
Speaker 1: obviously would have been the ideal choice. And that's what

848
00:46:04,160 --> 00:46:10,719
Speaker 1: we've seen recently, like teams that are aggressive. I mean,

849
00:46:10,719 --> 00:46:14,880
Speaker 1: look at these two teams right like they were. It

850
00:46:15,000 --> 00:46:19,160
Speaker 1: was we brought in Vrabel and we got rid of

851
00:46:20,880 --> 00:46:25,239
Speaker 1: Mayo right away. It was a disaster. Seahawks move on

852
00:46:25,440 --> 00:46:31,080
Speaker 1: from Gino Smith and Pete Carroll and go get McDonald.

853
00:46:31,160 --> 00:46:32,719
Speaker 1: Like a lot of people were shocked by. I thought

854
00:46:32,719 --> 00:46:35,640
Speaker 1: it was the wrong move. But the whole NFL season

855
00:46:36,840 --> 00:46:42,239
Speaker 1: was about coaching. The Jags rise with Liam Cohen and

856
00:46:42,280 --> 00:46:44,480
Speaker 1: everywhere Liam Cohen's gone, team's gotten better. And then the

857
00:46:44,520 --> 00:46:50,680
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895
00:49:23,840 --> 00:49:26,640
Speaker 2: just got one game left and you get to gamble

896
00:49:26,680 --> 00:49:29,160
Speaker 2: on college basketball, be gambling on golf, and we'll just

897
00:49:29,200 --> 00:49:30,879
Speaker 2: try to get through. But it's you know you turn

898
00:49:30,960 --> 00:49:33,560
Speaker 2: on TV at night. It's just I know you love

899
00:49:33,600 --> 00:49:37,759
Speaker 2: college truths. There's not it's not no. I mean I

900
00:49:37,840 --> 00:49:40,719
Speaker 2: tried to watch a little like sc was playing, was

901
00:49:40,760 --> 00:49:42,799
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902
00:49:42,800 --> 00:49:45,239
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903
00:49:45,360 --> 00:49:46,919
Speaker 2: fucking TV and go to bed.

904
00:49:47,520 --> 00:49:50,280
Speaker 1: I will say, I, you know, I miss there's nothing

905
00:49:50,280 --> 00:49:52,920
Speaker 1: like football. I miss it in the off season, but

906
00:49:53,040 --> 00:49:56,480
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907
00:49:56,520 --> 00:49:58,839
Speaker 1: like I don't get into like I never got into

908
00:49:58,840 --> 00:50:02,000
Speaker 1: any of the other leagues, or like the U football

909
00:50:02,080 --> 00:50:05,480
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910
00:50:05,600 --> 00:50:09,680
Speaker 1: to the super Bowl. But yeah, TV and weeknights and

911
00:50:09,680 --> 00:50:13,840
Speaker 1: weekends just aren't the same without football.

912
00:50:13,920 --> 00:50:17,480
Speaker 2: So gambling on the NBA I was watching the Lakers

913
00:50:17,480 --> 00:50:20,840
Speaker 2: are now like forty. I'm like that sport. When I

914
00:50:20,920 --> 00:50:25,840
Speaker 2: first really got into gambling, like consistently, probably mid twenty tens,

915
00:50:26,719 --> 00:50:28,640
Speaker 2: used to be able to find certain teams, like the

916
00:50:28,800 --> 00:50:32,200
Speaker 2: OKC Thunder with Durant and Russell I used to hammer

917
00:50:32,280 --> 00:50:35,399
Speaker 2: their team overs and there were just some you could ride.

918
00:50:35,480 --> 00:50:37,239
Speaker 2: And now the basketball is all over the place with

919
00:50:37,280 --> 00:50:40,080
Speaker 2: three point shots, Like I can't even imagine gambling on

920
00:50:40,120 --> 00:50:41,879
Speaker 2: this one. You got teams the tank, some teams don't

921
00:50:41,880 --> 00:50:44,400
Speaker 2: even try. The good ones take nights off. It's you

922
00:50:44,440 --> 00:50:46,640
Speaker 2: talk about a fall little sport. I mean, you got

923
00:50:46,640 --> 00:50:47,879
Speaker 2: no clue what you're getting night tonight.

924
00:50:48,080 --> 00:50:51,320
Speaker 1: I have no idea how people got the NBA. That's

925
00:50:51,480 --> 00:50:54,680
Speaker 1: not my god, boss, anyone that wins money doing it.

926
00:50:55,280 --> 00:50:56,440
Speaker 1: I wouldn't even know where to start.

927
00:50:57,200 --> 00:50:59,239
Speaker 2: At least in college basketball. You know, both teams in

928
00:50:59,280 --> 00:51:00,960
Speaker 2: theory are gonna try every night, right.

929
00:51:00,880 --> 00:51:07,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, there's no like load management and no and tanking.

930
00:51:08,239 --> 00:51:10,360
Speaker 1: But but the sport's changing. I mean the sport, like

931
00:51:10,400 --> 00:51:14,440
Speaker 1: college football is definitely changing the top. So like what's

932
00:51:14,480 --> 00:51:17,200
Speaker 1: happening in college troble is happening in college basketball. There's

933
00:51:17,560 --> 00:51:23,040
Speaker 1: because of nil, because of the portal, the top of

934
00:51:23,080 --> 00:51:28,719
Speaker 1: the sport is separating itself from the rest. Now there

935
00:51:28,800 --> 00:51:32,040
Speaker 1: might be there's probably gonna be more parody at the top, right,

936
00:51:32,040 --> 00:51:34,719
Speaker 1: and you're gonna have like in college football, there's you know,

937
00:51:34,760 --> 00:51:36,399
Speaker 1: next year, if you ask me right now, like who

938
00:51:36,400 --> 00:51:39,839
Speaker 1: could win the national title? And there's still so much

939
00:51:39,840 --> 00:51:43,319
Speaker 1: to be determined in the portal and recruiting and a

940
00:51:43,360 --> 00:51:46,200
Speaker 1: lot of other things. But I would probably list eight

941
00:51:46,239 --> 00:51:49,120
Speaker 1: to ten teams. Yeah that I wouldn't be shocked. Five

942
00:51:49,200 --> 00:51:51,960
Speaker 1: years ago, you know, it was like two to three

943
00:51:52,000 --> 00:51:55,560
Speaker 1: teams that I would say. So there's more parody at

944
00:51:55,560 --> 00:51:58,920
Speaker 1: the top, more diversity. I mean, look, Indiana just want

945
00:51:58,960 --> 00:52:03,760
Speaker 1: a championship, but after that, the drop off is massive

946
00:52:04,080 --> 00:52:07,600
Speaker 1: because the money difference, because any player that's worth anything

947
00:52:07,600 --> 00:52:10,040
Speaker 1: in these lower conferences is moving up. The coaches too

948
00:52:10,120 --> 00:52:15,239
Speaker 1: are moving up. So like, what's going to happen, I

949
00:52:15,280 --> 00:52:20,840
Speaker 1: think is and it sucks. My first love is March

950
00:52:20,880 --> 00:52:22,880
Speaker 1: Madness when I was a little kid in the NCAA tournament.

951
00:52:22,880 --> 00:52:25,600
Speaker 1: There's just gonna be fewer upsets, fewer Cinderella stores. We

952
00:52:25,640 --> 00:52:27,640
Speaker 1: saw that last year. I think that's probably going to

953
00:52:27,680 --> 00:52:31,600
Speaker 1: be a trend and it's just going to be harder

954
00:52:31,640 --> 00:52:35,080
Speaker 1: to get Cinderella stores because the gap is growing. I mean,

955
00:52:35,360 --> 00:52:38,120
Speaker 1: if you just look at the top ten, the AP

956
00:52:38,320 --> 00:52:44,279
Speaker 1: top ten after Week thirteen, which was this Monday, those

957
00:52:44,320 --> 00:52:49,840
Speaker 1: ten teams had thirteen total losses. To put that into perspective,

958
00:52:50,320 --> 00:52:52,960
Speaker 1: you know, two years ago this same time frame, the

959
00:52:53,000 --> 00:52:57,680
Speaker 1: top ten had thirty four. The previous record was twenty one,

960
00:52:58,560 --> 00:53:01,120
Speaker 1: so I mean they only had thirty. Like, there's just

961
00:53:01,160 --> 00:53:02,160
Speaker 1: not as many upsets.

962
00:53:02,200 --> 00:53:03,960
Speaker 2: Well, Arizona hasn't lost.

963
00:53:03,760 --> 00:53:05,360
Speaker 1: Right, Arizona's undefeated.

964
00:53:05,920 --> 00:53:07,040
Speaker 2: Nebraska just lost.

965
00:53:07,239 --> 00:53:09,759
Speaker 1: Nebraska just lost to Michigan. Who's you know, a top

966
00:53:09,760 --> 00:53:10,279
Speaker 1: five team.

967
00:53:11,120 --> 00:53:15,080
Speaker 2: They have like two they have one loss, yeah, which

968
00:53:15,120 --> 00:53:17,480
Speaker 2: is unheard of, Like good if you finish the season

969
00:53:17,520 --> 00:53:20,680
Speaker 2: with five or six losses, right.

970
00:53:20,800 --> 00:53:26,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, so yeah, it's it's unprecedented. How good the top

971
00:53:26,760 --> 00:53:29,560
Speaker 1: of the sport is. So yeah, there's just fewer upsets.

972
00:53:29,640 --> 00:53:32,040
Speaker 1: I'm having to adjust because it's like a different sport

973
00:53:32,880 --> 00:53:35,400
Speaker 1: college football, college basketball. There, it's it's ever changing and

974
00:53:36,880 --> 00:53:39,680
Speaker 1: it's it's a whole different world. But uh, one mid

975
00:53:39,680 --> 00:53:41,520
Speaker 1: major that could make a run Saint Louis. I took

976
00:53:41,520 --> 00:53:43,560
Speaker 1: a flyer and then to make the Final four. They're

977
00:53:43,640 --> 00:53:45,760
Speaker 1: like a team with shooters all over, very well coached.

978
00:53:45,760 --> 00:53:47,320
Speaker 2: Say that again, you kind of broke out on me.

979
00:53:47,400 --> 00:53:48,600
Speaker 2: The team you just listened.

980
00:53:48,440 --> 00:53:51,000
Speaker 1: Saint Louis the Billikins there, they have one loss. They

981
00:53:51,040 --> 00:53:53,399
Speaker 1: lost one game to Stanford on like a crazy buzzer beater.

982
00:53:53,920 --> 00:53:55,720
Speaker 1: But they have one of the best coaches in the country.

983
00:53:55,760 --> 00:53:58,200
Speaker 1: They have like five guys who shoot forty percent from three.

984
00:53:58,239 --> 00:54:00,520
Speaker 1: They run beautiful offense. Like their team. I could give

985
00:54:01,120 --> 00:54:03,719
Speaker 1: anyone problems that make it. They can't like win it all,

986
00:54:03,760 --> 00:54:05,160
Speaker 1: but they could make like a final four. I took

987
00:54:05,160 --> 00:54:07,560
Speaker 1: a flyer and then to make the Final four, and

988
00:54:07,600 --> 00:54:09,279
Speaker 1: then the other storyline with college basketball real quick, it

989
00:54:09,320 --> 00:54:11,040
Speaker 1: is just a freshman this year. The freshmen are outstanding.

990
00:54:11,960 --> 00:54:14,480
Speaker 1: My favorite to watch when he's healthy. He's dealt with

991
00:54:14,520 --> 00:54:17,719
Speaker 1: a lot of injury issues. But Darren Peterson out of Kansas,

992
00:54:17,960 --> 00:54:19,919
Speaker 1: I took a flyer in Kansas to make the Final Four.

993
00:54:20,239 --> 00:54:21,880
Speaker 1: When he's healthy, he looks. He reminds me of like

994
00:54:21,960 --> 00:54:25,200
Speaker 1: Kobe if Kobe went to college. He is one of

995
00:54:25,200 --> 00:54:28,440
Speaker 1: the smoothest players that I've seen on the offensive end

996
00:54:28,440 --> 00:54:30,480
Speaker 1: in college, especially for a freshman a long time. But

997
00:54:30,560 --> 00:54:33,160
Speaker 1: the freshman boozer, the bands of Peters, and they might

998
00:54:33,160 --> 00:54:34,680
Speaker 1: be the top three in the draft. Then you might

999
00:54:34,719 --> 00:54:36,880
Speaker 1: get you know, Caleb Wilson out of North con The

1000
00:54:36,920 --> 00:54:40,560
Speaker 1: top five guys might be freshmen. Freshmen are dominating. He

1001
00:54:40,640 --> 00:54:44,239
Speaker 1: had this kid Waggler from Illinois dropped forty six at

1002
00:54:44,320 --> 00:54:50,160
Speaker 1: Purdue last weekend. Flemings from Houston at forty two last weekend.

1003
00:54:50,200 --> 00:54:52,160
Speaker 1: I mean, there are so many good freshmen. That's another

1004
00:54:52,200 --> 00:54:55,080
Speaker 1: storyline to watch. But yeah, not the same without football.

1005
00:54:55,800 --> 00:54:59,520
Speaker 1: I appreciate you having me on all year. Can't wait

1006
00:54:59,560 --> 00:55:01,279
Speaker 1: to do it again and next year.

1007
00:55:01,320 --> 00:55:05,879
Speaker 2: Brother, Well, enjoy being a dad and you enjoy life

1008
00:55:05,920 --> 00:55:08,120
Speaker 2: and We'll just keep on, We'll just keep cryding day

1009
00:55:08,120 --> 00:55:09,960
Speaker 2: by day, because that's you know, when you become a dad,

1010
00:55:10,040 --> 00:55:12,200
Speaker 2: that dad life is just one foot in front of

1011
00:55:12,239 --> 00:55:14,360
Speaker 2: I feel like Belichick just onto the next day, on too,

1012
00:55:14,400 --> 00:55:15,000
Speaker 2: the next day.

1013
00:55:14,880 --> 00:55:15,880
Speaker 1: We're onto Cincinnati.

1014
00:55:16,360 --> 00:55:19,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, Bro, I'll talk to you soon. Enjoy the

1015
00:55:19,040 --> 00:55:20,359
Speaker 2: super Bowl, be you too.

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Speaker 1: Cheers the volume