1 00:00:00,440 --> 00:00:07,520 Speaker 1: Alright, this is the Doug Gottlieb Show. Heres in the 2 00:00:07,760 --> 00:00:10,079 Speaker 1: Bonus with Doug Gottlieb. 3 00:00:09,880 --> 00:00:12,280 Speaker 2: What Up Doug gotlib Show and the Bonus Fox Sports Radio, 4 00:00:12,400 --> 00:00:20,880 Speaker 2: I Heart Radio app Welcome, Welcome, Uckleman. So it's happened again. 5 00:00:21,920 --> 00:00:26,880 Speaker 2: Hugh Freeze now fired as head coach of the Auburn Tagus. 6 00:00:27,480 --> 00:00:29,360 Speaker 2: So I saw this where Auburn's playing like what fifty 7 00:00:29,360 --> 00:00:31,520 Speaker 2: two million dollars to three guys who aren't coaching the 8 00:00:31,560 --> 00:00:35,080 Speaker 2: Auburn Tigers anymore. I think that's that's funny. But this 9 00:00:35,120 --> 00:00:38,800 Speaker 2: is where we are in college athletics that the very 10 00:00:38,880 --> 00:00:41,160 Speaker 2: highest level, and the SEC is the very highest level. 11 00:00:41,760 --> 00:00:45,040 Speaker 2: They are a bunch of babies, That's what it is. Like. 12 00:00:45,080 --> 00:00:46,720 Speaker 2: One of the things you have to learn if you're 13 00:00:46,720 --> 00:00:49,280 Speaker 2: gonna be an athlete, and then if you're gonna be 14 00:00:49,360 --> 00:00:52,080 Speaker 2: in athletics is you're gonna have to learn how to lose. 15 00:00:52,520 --> 00:00:53,840 Speaker 2: It's one of the things that a lot of us 16 00:00:53,880 --> 00:00:57,000 Speaker 2: have talked about with with kids, and like Jay stew 17 00:00:57,040 --> 00:00:59,520 Speaker 2: Is is, you know, he's mister anti gen Z because 18 00:00:59,520 --> 00:01:03,480 Speaker 2: so many Eers were raised in soccer games where they 19 00:01:03,520 --> 00:01:06,080 Speaker 2: don't keep scores, there's no win or no loser. So 20 00:01:06,440 --> 00:01:08,600 Speaker 2: sometimes it happens later in life now that people have 21 00:01:08,640 --> 00:01:10,240 Speaker 2: to learn, Hey, you got to learn how to lose. 22 00:01:10,400 --> 00:01:13,760 Speaker 2: The SEC is a bunch of babies, because when they lose, 23 00:01:14,000 --> 00:01:16,360 Speaker 2: what they do, Hey, fire their coach. It's got to 24 00:01:16,360 --> 00:01:20,480 Speaker 2: be the coach's fault. You know, Tennessee loses at home 25 00:01:20,520 --> 00:01:22,720 Speaker 2: for a second time this year, this one to Oklahoma, 26 00:01:23,480 --> 00:01:25,679 Speaker 2: and of course what now, let's get rid of hypel 27 00:01:27,040 --> 00:01:29,560 Speaker 2: Kentucky may move on from mark shops. Hey, guess what, 28 00:01:30,640 --> 00:01:33,800 Speaker 2: everyone can't win every year. I don't know how to 29 00:01:33,959 --> 00:01:35,960 Speaker 2: I don't know how to tell you this, but when 30 00:01:35,959 --> 00:01:38,840 Speaker 2: you have all those SEC teams, somebody's gonna win and 31 00:01:38,840 --> 00:01:41,760 Speaker 2: somebody's gonna lose. Now, when for consecutive years you have 32 00:01:41,840 --> 00:01:44,400 Speaker 2: tough years and you lose, I get it. It happens. 33 00:01:45,319 --> 00:01:48,320 Speaker 2: But Tennessee, for example, what a good year last year? Auburn? Like, 34 00:01:48,400 --> 00:01:50,800 Speaker 2: how how quick a time do you want to rebuild 35 00:01:50,840 --> 00:01:53,480 Speaker 2: this thing? They just keep shuffling through coaches. At some 36 00:01:53,520 --> 00:01:54,920 Speaker 2: point they got to look themselves in the mirror and 37 00:01:54,960 --> 00:01:59,600 Speaker 2: maybe it's us. And as as much as you can say, wow, 38 00:01:59,680 --> 00:02:03,240 Speaker 2: you get these coachers are making too much money. They're 39 00:02:03,280 --> 00:02:06,440 Speaker 2: making that money because they that's their only way to 40 00:02:06,440 --> 00:02:10,240 Speaker 2: protect themselves. And the thought was previously, well, I can 41 00:02:10,280 --> 00:02:13,960 Speaker 2: only protect myself from getting fired by having a gargantuan buyout. 42 00:02:14,000 --> 00:02:16,600 Speaker 2: They won't pay. Now they're paying those buyouts, So now 43 00:02:16,600 --> 00:02:18,520 Speaker 2: you got to protect yourself because you may be out 44 00:02:18,520 --> 00:02:24,240 Speaker 2: of work for a long time. It's it's legitimately. If 45 00:02:24,280 --> 00:02:26,960 Speaker 2: you're not ranked in the SEC your coach is probably 46 00:02:27,000 --> 00:02:33,119 Speaker 2: getting fired. That's crazy. That's crazy. Anybody who thinks that's 47 00:02:33,280 --> 00:02:37,880 Speaker 2: normal or okay or how business should work like, it's nuts. 48 00:02:37,919 --> 00:02:41,280 Speaker 2: And like I told you, what people don't realize is 49 00:02:42,840 --> 00:02:45,840 Speaker 2: it's a lot like surgery. Right when you have surgery 50 00:02:45,880 --> 00:02:49,160 Speaker 2: and you don't you'd have voluntary surgery, or you have 51 00:02:49,200 --> 00:02:51,440 Speaker 2: a what is it called elective surgery, right, they called 52 00:02:51,480 --> 00:02:54,760 Speaker 2: elective surgery elective surgery. When you have an elective surgery, 53 00:02:54,800 --> 00:02:58,240 Speaker 2: every time you go in, you run the risk of infection, 54 00:02:58,760 --> 00:03:01,280 Speaker 2: you get scar tissues, you're never going to be every 55 00:03:01,280 --> 00:03:03,639 Speaker 2: time you get cut, you're you're not gonna be the 56 00:03:03,720 --> 00:03:06,720 Speaker 2: better off. Even when there's successful surgeries, there's one a 57 00:03:06,800 --> 00:03:09,000 Speaker 2: risk of infection, a risk of things going wrong, and 58 00:03:09,120 --> 00:03:13,920 Speaker 2: generally every stitch, every eventually you're gonna develop arthritis or 59 00:03:13,960 --> 00:03:16,600 Speaker 2: some sort of calson scarring in that area. It's the 60 00:03:16,680 --> 00:03:19,800 Speaker 2: same thing with coaching changes. If you're going out wheeling 61 00:03:19,840 --> 00:03:22,560 Speaker 2: coaches like Auburn is every three years, every two years, 62 00:03:22,600 --> 00:03:25,600 Speaker 2: every time something goes bad, you're always setting yourself back. 63 00:03:26,480 --> 00:03:29,520 Speaker 2: And then the last part of it is you're while 64 00:03:29,520 --> 00:03:33,000 Speaker 2: the SEC was the most competitive, best league in the country, 65 00:03:33,480 --> 00:03:36,240 Speaker 2: when you have like five coaches have been fired, those 66 00:03:36,280 --> 00:03:40,280 Speaker 2: teams are decimated because everybody's leaving and nobody wants to 67 00:03:40,320 --> 00:03:42,480 Speaker 2: be there, and coaches think they're gonna get fired, and 68 00:03:42,560 --> 00:03:44,160 Speaker 2: so the level of competition at the end of the 69 00:03:44,200 --> 00:03:46,640 Speaker 2: year when you're playing against interim coaches is not the same. 70 00:03:47,240 --> 00:03:50,640 Speaker 2: What's going on in college football is crazy. Don't let 71 00:03:50,720 --> 00:03:53,120 Speaker 2: anybody tell you that it's a reasonable way to run 72 00:03:53,160 --> 00:03:55,040 Speaker 2: a business. And the big part of it is the 73 00:03:55,080 --> 00:03:56,440 Speaker 2: SEC A bunch of babies. 74 00:03:56,520 --> 00:03:58,800 Speaker 3: Be sure to catch live editions of The Doug Gottlieb 75 00:03:58,880 --> 00:04:02,440 Speaker 3: Show weekdays at three pm Eastern noon Pacific on Fox 76 00:04:02,480 --> 00:04:04,800 Speaker 3: Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app. 77 00:04:07,040 --> 00:04:09,920 Speaker 2: Stut Gottlieb Show here on Fox Sports Radio and the 78 00:04:09,960 --> 00:04:13,120 Speaker 2: iHeartRadio app. Let's welcome in my guy. Brandon christaal who 79 00:04:13,440 --> 00:04:18,040 Speaker 2: works for is It gorilla or gorilla. 80 00:04:17,320 --> 00:04:21,120 Speaker 4: Sports Gorilla like gorilla marketing. Our coverage is you know, 81 00:04:21,200 --> 00:04:22,080 Speaker 4: it sneaks up on you. 82 00:04:22,520 --> 00:04:26,200 Speaker 2: Okay, I got it. I got It's like, what's the 83 00:04:26,200 --> 00:04:29,760 Speaker 2: new term ambush ambush and baseball, it's the ambush attack. 84 00:04:29,800 --> 00:04:32,560 Speaker 2: I can't remember what it is. Regardless, you were at 85 00:04:32,600 --> 00:04:37,600 Speaker 2: the Broncos win yesterday, you cover the Broncos with your 86 00:04:37,600 --> 00:04:42,000 Speaker 2: podcast network. I just I struggled to buy into this 87 00:04:42,080 --> 00:04:46,640 Speaker 2: team because of how they escaped yesterday, the comeback it 88 00:04:46,720 --> 00:04:49,160 Speaker 2: gets against the Giants, And maybe it's because I saw 89 00:04:49,240 --> 00:04:50,880 Speaker 2: him against the Chargers, and I know the Chargers were 90 00:04:50,880 --> 00:04:54,240 Speaker 2: different than they were healthier. How good are they. 91 00:04:54,760 --> 00:04:56,440 Speaker 4: Good enough that they keep finding ways to win in 92 00:04:56,480 --> 00:04:58,719 Speaker 4: different ways? But I think maybe the thing that sticks 93 00:04:58,720 --> 00:05:02,279 Speaker 4: out the most, and I understand CJ. Stroud concussion obviously 94 00:05:02,279 --> 00:05:04,480 Speaker 4: put a damper on things, but that was the fourth 95 00:05:04,600 --> 00:05:07,320 Speaker 4: game this season that that defense is not allowed a touchdown. 96 00:05:07,680 --> 00:05:10,440 Speaker 4: And I understand that. Against the Bengals, it was Jake Browning. 97 00:05:10,480 --> 00:05:13,640 Speaker 4: It wasn't Joe Flacco or certainly Joe Burrow. Against the Jets, 98 00:05:13,640 --> 00:05:15,000 Speaker 4: it was the Jets. 99 00:05:15,680 --> 00:05:17,599 Speaker 2: And so they did beat the Eagles on the road. 100 00:05:17,760 --> 00:05:20,320 Speaker 4: They did, and they didn't you know I was thinking 101 00:05:20,320 --> 00:05:22,800 Speaker 4: about because there was not one, but two goal line 102 00:05:22,839 --> 00:05:26,600 Speaker 4: stands yesterday in Houston. We didn't even really see the 103 00:05:26,600 --> 00:05:29,200 Speaker 4: toush push with that game in Philly, and that was 104 00:05:29,240 --> 00:05:32,240 Speaker 4: on the way to London. But they went from being 105 00:05:32,320 --> 00:05:35,200 Speaker 4: one and two to probably very easily eight and two 106 00:05:35,360 --> 00:05:37,160 Speaker 4: if they can take care of the Raiders Thursday night 107 00:05:37,200 --> 00:05:38,880 Speaker 4: here and in power Field at Mile High, and I 108 00:05:38,920 --> 00:05:39,920 Speaker 4: certainly liked their chances. 109 00:05:40,040 --> 00:05:42,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, and five of their last eight are are at 110 00:05:42,160 --> 00:05:44,680 Speaker 2: home as well, and they always they always played better 111 00:05:44,680 --> 00:05:46,920 Speaker 2: at home, and they usually they usually pay more games 112 00:05:46,960 --> 00:05:49,560 Speaker 2: early at home. So it's a weird schedule year for 113 00:05:49,600 --> 00:05:50,120 Speaker 2: the Broncos. 114 00:05:50,200 --> 00:05:52,400 Speaker 4: Yeah, but it's one that set up the way they liked. 115 00:05:52,400 --> 00:05:54,120 Speaker 4: They've got the bye late, they get the mini by here. 116 00:05:54,120 --> 00:05:56,880 Speaker 4: They're gonna have a second Thursday game though, Christmas night 117 00:05:57,040 --> 00:06:00,240 Speaker 4: they're in Kansas City to take on Patrick Mahomes, Travis Else, 118 00:06:00,440 --> 00:06:02,400 Speaker 4: Chris Jones and the Chiefs. So that'll be a short 119 00:06:02,440 --> 00:06:04,520 Speaker 4: week coming off of back to back home games with 120 00:06:04,839 --> 00:06:07,400 Speaker 4: the Packers on the fourteenth of December, and then the Jaguars. 121 00:06:07,400 --> 00:06:09,120 Speaker 2: Don't know what the Jags look like then. 122 00:06:09,200 --> 00:06:12,160 Speaker 4: Anyway, and where the pack will be, but it sets 123 00:06:12,240 --> 00:06:13,720 Speaker 4: up well for them to certainly be in the mix 124 00:06:13,800 --> 00:06:17,400 Speaker 4: to win this division and jockey for playoff positioning in 125 00:06:17,440 --> 00:06:18,000 Speaker 4: the AFC. 126 00:06:18,080 --> 00:06:20,359 Speaker 2: Yeah, and then again things start to open up for 127 00:06:20,440 --> 00:06:22,800 Speaker 2: him right that the Chiefs are just they continue to 128 00:06:22,839 --> 00:06:26,159 Speaker 2: be what the kids say mid and then and the 129 00:06:26,240 --> 00:06:28,640 Speaker 2: Chargers are just so banged up. 130 00:06:28,720 --> 00:06:31,440 Speaker 4: Yeah, the alt thing really hurts because you obviously were 131 00:06:31,480 --> 00:06:33,840 Speaker 4: at out Rashaan Slater all year. You knew that they're 132 00:06:33,839 --> 00:06:37,320 Speaker 4: gonna still play hard, and you like what you've seen 133 00:06:37,400 --> 00:06:39,880 Speaker 4: from Omaron Hampton that he gets banged up justin Herbert's 134 00:06:39,880 --> 00:06:41,360 Speaker 4: been great. I've got him on a bunch of fantasy 135 00:06:41,400 --> 00:06:44,520 Speaker 4: teams too, and so it's been that's been fun to watch. 136 00:06:44,640 --> 00:06:47,159 Speaker 4: But you couldn't trust them when they were fully healthy, 137 00:06:47,240 --> 00:06:49,440 Speaker 4: just because it feels like the old saying goes, the 138 00:06:49,520 --> 00:06:51,680 Speaker 4: Chargers are gonna charger. Well, it's not gonna be their 139 00:06:51,680 --> 00:06:54,040 Speaker 4: fault again. But I remember talking to Melvin Gordon about 140 00:06:54,040 --> 00:06:57,080 Speaker 4: the different O line combinations that he had every single week, 141 00:06:57,120 --> 00:07:00,080 Speaker 4: and you obviously know Tom Telesko really well and he 142 00:07:00,120 --> 00:07:02,680 Speaker 4: had to live through it. But it was, you know, 143 00:07:02,760 --> 00:07:04,719 Speaker 4: it was wild to see then, and it's still even 144 00:07:04,760 --> 00:07:07,640 Speaker 4: with Harbaugh there with Herbert playing maybe his best football, 145 00:07:08,480 --> 00:07:11,200 Speaker 4: the Broncos certainly are in the mix, and it shouldn't 146 00:07:11,200 --> 00:07:13,600 Speaker 4: surprise anyone with that defense that bo Nix makes enough 147 00:07:13,600 --> 00:07:16,120 Speaker 4: plays that they end up winning the AFC West. I'm 148 00:07:16,160 --> 00:07:18,440 Speaker 4: not ready to call it right now, but at seven 149 00:07:18,440 --> 00:07:20,200 Speaker 4: and two, they're in the driver's seat. 150 00:07:20,480 --> 00:07:24,160 Speaker 2: Okay, last one terms of football, Deon's team got blown 151 00:07:24,160 --> 00:07:28,560 Speaker 2: out again. Does he come back next year? I don't know. 152 00:07:28,640 --> 00:07:30,080 Speaker 4: I don't think he wants to go out like this. 153 00:07:30,480 --> 00:07:33,080 Speaker 4: He's hopefully going to get to keep Jordan's seating the 154 00:07:33,120 --> 00:07:35,360 Speaker 4: best left tackle maybe in college football as a sophomore 155 00:07:35,600 --> 00:07:36,840 Speaker 4: kid from miamg that was. 156 00:07:36,840 --> 00:07:39,640 Speaker 2: A great recruit and stayed. Now he's in. 157 00:07:39,680 --> 00:07:42,200 Speaker 4: Year two, so he stays at left tackle. Juju Lewis 158 00:07:42,240 --> 00:07:44,600 Speaker 4: is going to start this week against West Virginia. You know, 159 00:07:44,680 --> 00:07:46,920 Speaker 4: Dion says it starts with me. So he didn't make 160 00:07:46,960 --> 00:07:50,160 Speaker 4: his coaches or players available after the game. When they 161 00:07:50,160 --> 00:07:53,800 Speaker 4: get blown out by Arizona on Saturday folsom Field fifty 162 00:07:53,800 --> 00:07:56,360 Speaker 4: two seventeen, I believe he was a score. If he's 163 00:07:56,400 --> 00:07:59,840 Speaker 4: not there, his health is a legitimate, oh no doubt issue. 164 00:08:00,080 --> 00:08:01,080 Speaker 2: So I don't think. 165 00:08:01,000 --> 00:08:02,720 Speaker 4: Who's gonna fault him, and you talk to anyone that's 166 00:08:03,720 --> 00:08:06,360 Speaker 4: tied to that program in Boulder or that loves the Buffs, 167 00:08:06,360 --> 00:08:07,960 Speaker 4: and you know, I've been in the market out twenty 168 00:08:08,040 --> 00:08:10,360 Speaker 4: years and friends with so many of those Buff legends. 169 00:08:10,440 --> 00:08:14,160 Speaker 4: Everyone appreciates the raising of the profile. And if he 170 00:08:14,200 --> 00:08:16,240 Speaker 4: decides to move on, no one's gonna have any hard feelings. 171 00:08:16,440 --> 00:08:18,040 Speaker 4: But I think they'd love to see him try to 172 00:08:18,080 --> 00:08:20,400 Speaker 4: find a way to have a better year in the 173 00:08:20,440 --> 00:08:20,840 Speaker 4: next year. 174 00:08:20,880 --> 00:08:21,000 Speaker 5: Two. 175 00:08:21,000 --> 00:08:22,720 Speaker 4: He says he's not doing anything to follow his kids. 176 00:08:23,280 --> 00:08:25,120 Speaker 4: They follow him, but he could just go back to 177 00:08:25,160 --> 00:08:27,480 Speaker 4: be and deon Sanders and that might even be easier 178 00:08:27,520 --> 00:08:28,000 Speaker 4: on his health. 179 00:08:28,200 --> 00:08:31,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, it is. It is crazy. Last thing we got 180 00:08:31,280 --> 00:08:36,400 Speaker 2: thirty seconds you're cancel um and now you're I get 181 00:08:36,400 --> 00:08:39,080 Speaker 2: to coach against Kansas. What's this like for you? 182 00:08:39,200 --> 00:08:41,600 Speaker 4: Well, the happiest moment as your friend that I had 183 00:08:41,679 --> 00:08:43,760 Speaker 4: was when you called the Final Four and you're on 184 00:08:43,800 --> 00:08:46,800 Speaker 4: the set with Charles Barkley and Kenny Smith. And then 185 00:08:46,800 --> 00:08:48,560 Speaker 4: when you can take this job. I was like, Hey, 186 00:08:48,559 --> 00:08:50,040 Speaker 4: wh you're gonna play a game of Kansas? You said 187 00:08:50,080 --> 00:08:52,640 Speaker 4: next year, all right, I'll be there. So flu from 188 00:08:52,720 --> 00:08:56,000 Speaker 4: Houston to Kansas City was cool. Enough to be able 189 00:08:56,000 --> 00:08:58,480 Speaker 4: to ride on the bus for shoot around, and I 190 00:08:58,520 --> 00:09:01,400 Speaker 4: forget that you're a basketball just a tricky thing because 191 00:09:01,400 --> 00:09:03,120 Speaker 4: I never really watched you coach. I mean, I've seen 192 00:09:03,160 --> 00:09:06,079 Speaker 4: you coach kids over the years, but I've never seen this, 193 00:09:06,720 --> 00:09:09,080 Speaker 4: And so look, I don't ever want the Jayhawks to lose, 194 00:09:09,080 --> 00:09:11,160 Speaker 4: but I will not be sad at all. I'll be 195 00:09:11,200 --> 00:09:13,240 Speaker 4: wearing my Green Bay Phoenix gear and if it's their 196 00:09:13,240 --> 00:09:14,840 Speaker 4: only loss of the year on their way to a 197 00:09:15,200 --> 00:09:17,480 Speaker 4: national championship, That'll be a feather in your cap. 198 00:09:17,559 --> 00:09:19,440 Speaker 2: But I can't wait to see you in there on 199 00:09:19,440 --> 00:09:22,240 Speaker 2: the sidelines opposite of Bill selth Be pretty fun. That's 200 00:09:22,240 --> 00:09:26,880 Speaker 2: my guy. Brandon christaal Gorilla Sports in Denver. Thanks for 201 00:09:26,920 --> 00:09:27,959 Speaker 2: joining me, man, Thanks Doug. 202 00:09:28,080 --> 00:09:30,360 Speaker 3: Be sure to catch live editions of The Doug Gottlieb 203 00:09:30,400 --> 00:09:33,959 Speaker 3: Show weekdays at three pm Eastern noon Pacific on Fox 204 00:09:33,960 --> 00:09:36,280 Speaker 3: Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app. 205 00:09:37,920 --> 00:09:40,440 Speaker 2: Let's find out who What's annoying? Jason Stewart. 206 00:09:42,320 --> 00:09:44,560 Speaker 1: And now it's your annoying. 207 00:09:49,160 --> 00:09:52,400 Speaker 6: Hey, Doug, there was an interesting like Twitter experiment. For 208 00:09:52,480 --> 00:09:57,880 Speaker 6: those listeners who didn't see it at Jason Stewart put 209 00:09:57,880 --> 00:10:00,560 Speaker 6: out of tweet over the week about the in game interviews, 210 00:10:01,280 --> 00:10:03,600 Speaker 6: and it got into the algorithm and it just like 211 00:10:03,720 --> 00:10:06,560 Speaker 6: took off and to this moment is still getting reaction. 212 00:10:07,360 --> 00:10:10,600 Speaker 6: It was basically just criticizing these moments during the game 213 00:10:10,640 --> 00:10:14,800 Speaker 6: where Tom de Verducci and Ken Rosenthal, without any awareness 214 00:10:14,840 --> 00:10:19,800 Speaker 6: at all, is interviewing managers in very crucial situations of 215 00:10:19,920 --> 00:10:23,000 Speaker 6: crucial games. Here's a couple examples. So this is uh, 216 00:10:23,720 --> 00:10:26,680 Speaker 6: this I want to say, this is Ken Rosenthal. Now 217 00:10:26,720 --> 00:10:28,880 Speaker 6: this is Verducci with Roberts. 218 00:10:31,040 --> 00:10:34,480 Speaker 7: Welcome back to Tovao, joined by Dodgers manager Dave Roberts. 219 00:10:37,440 --> 00:10:39,880 Speaker 1: Will Smith drives the first all time the deep left 220 00:10:39,920 --> 00:10:43,160 Speaker 1: center field pit is off the top of the wall. 221 00:10:44,240 --> 00:10:46,559 Speaker 7: A leadoff double for will Smith and they're how to 222 00:10:46,559 --> 00:10:48,520 Speaker 7: put Dave Roberts in a good boat for her to check. 223 00:10:48,600 --> 00:10:48,640 Speaker 6: What. 224 00:10:48,760 --> 00:10:54,800 Speaker 7: Okay, I'm sure that's the swing you've been looking for, Doc, 225 00:10:56,720 --> 00:10:58,880 Speaker 7: You've gotten underneath some pitches on Mack. 226 00:10:58,920 --> 00:11:00,319 Speaker 1: Sure's our first time around. 227 00:11:01,200 --> 00:11:02,079 Speaker 7: What are you looking for a. 228 00:11:02,040 --> 00:11:02,800 Speaker 1: Second time around? 229 00:11:04,120 --> 00:11:04,640 Speaker 2: Say that again? 230 00:11:04,679 --> 00:11:06,800 Speaker 1: Some time through the lineup swings like that? What are 231 00:11:06,800 --> 00:11:07,200 Speaker 1: you looking for? 232 00:11:07,360 --> 00:11:08,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, I just think that we got to 233 00:11:08,880 --> 00:11:10,520 Speaker 3: still stay in the strike zone. 234 00:11:10,840 --> 00:11:13,360 Speaker 6: So you have a manager who's a batter just got 235 00:11:13,400 --> 00:11:15,960 Speaker 6: a lead off double. He needs to give signals to 236 00:11:15,960 --> 00:11:19,440 Speaker 6: his bas coaches, He needs to do work. Tom Verducci 237 00:11:19,520 --> 00:11:21,800 Speaker 6: is working in the game for forty years and he 238 00:11:21,840 --> 00:11:24,040 Speaker 6: has the utter lack of self awareness to just let 239 00:11:24,080 --> 00:11:26,920 Speaker 6: him do his fucking job. And then Ken Rosenthal thought 240 00:11:27,000 --> 00:11:29,440 Speaker 6: Erducci was so bad he wanted to be worse when 241 00:11:29,440 --> 00:11:30,199 Speaker 6: he was with Schneider. 242 00:11:31,800 --> 00:11:35,560 Speaker 2: Ridge played umpire Jordan Baker after the first inning, Crew cheek, 243 00:11:35,679 --> 00:11:39,080 Speaker 2: Mark Wegner between innings and the second What was the 244 00:11:39,120 --> 00:11:41,160 Speaker 2: message you were trying to convey about Otani? 245 00:11:41,559 --> 00:11:43,360 Speaker 5: We were just talking about I mean, we get that 246 00:11:43,400 --> 00:11:45,600 Speaker 5: there's extra time kind of baked in there when he's 247 00:11:45,679 --> 00:11:48,080 Speaker 5: either on the play, when he's either at the plate. 248 00:11:48,520 --> 00:11:48,880 Speaker 2: Turn it. 249 00:11:53,800 --> 00:11:57,000 Speaker 5: Sorry, Ken, it's like the worst interview, lever good. We 250 00:11:57,040 --> 00:11:59,280 Speaker 5: were just talking about the kind of the time in 251 00:11:59,320 --> 00:12:00,000 Speaker 5: between innings. 252 00:12:01,040 --> 00:12:01,280 Speaker 2: Yeah. 253 00:12:01,320 --> 00:12:02,880 Speaker 6: Sorry, in the middle of an interview, I had to 254 00:12:02,880 --> 00:12:05,640 Speaker 6: make sure that something couldn't go to replay, and I 255 00:12:05,679 --> 00:12:09,560 Speaker 6: apologize to the reporter for interrupting me. During my job 256 00:12:10,520 --> 00:12:13,880 Speaker 6: on Twitter, you typically throw out something and half of 257 00:12:13,920 --> 00:12:16,480 Speaker 6: it calls you fat and ugly and you're wrong, and 258 00:12:16,520 --> 00:12:18,600 Speaker 6: then half of it agrees with you. This was like 259 00:12:18,800 --> 00:12:22,000 Speaker 6: ninety five percent. If you look at my comments, ninety 260 00:12:22,040 --> 00:12:25,160 Speaker 6: five percent of people think that in game interviews need 261 00:12:25,200 --> 00:12:28,360 Speaker 6: to go away, and that Fox is completely oblivious and 262 00:12:28,400 --> 00:12:31,360 Speaker 6: these two reporters are dipshits for doing it. 263 00:12:32,960 --> 00:12:36,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, I'm gonna disagree with you. I do understand. 264 00:12:36,920 --> 00:12:39,160 Speaker 2: I haven't had the in game interview, so I can't 265 00:12:39,200 --> 00:12:41,880 Speaker 2: tell you right like, I have a game tonight and 266 00:12:42,720 --> 00:12:44,480 Speaker 2: I don't know what it would be like in the 267 00:12:44,559 --> 00:12:46,840 Speaker 2: early stage of the first half if somebody's asking me 268 00:12:46,920 --> 00:12:49,280 Speaker 2: questions while the game is going on. Baseball has very 269 00:12:49,320 --> 00:12:54,719 Speaker 2: different pacing obviously than than football. I actually liked it. 270 00:12:55,760 --> 00:12:59,080 Speaker 2: I actually like it cause it's it's really what's going 271 00:12:59,080 --> 00:13:02,160 Speaker 2: on down there, if you're honest with yourself. Chase too, 272 00:13:02,280 --> 00:13:04,080 Speaker 2: there's a lot of people who watch baseball, like, what 273 00:13:04,120 --> 00:13:06,000 Speaker 2: are you actually doing as manager? Right? You fill out 274 00:13:06,000 --> 00:13:09,480 Speaker 2: the lineup card and you choose some butts and that's 275 00:13:09,480 --> 00:13:14,120 Speaker 2: what you do. But yes, it is. They still haven't 276 00:13:14,200 --> 00:13:16,760 Speaker 2: kind of worked it out, and I don't think I 277 00:13:16,800 --> 00:13:19,280 Speaker 2: would agree with you on Verducci and we just timing 278 00:13:19,320 --> 00:13:22,360 Speaker 2: and understanding of time and place. It's also, well, if 279 00:13:22,360 --> 00:13:25,400 Speaker 2: you're gonna set up the question. You don't set it 280 00:13:25,480 --> 00:13:27,480 Speaker 2: up with like Schnyder sitting there, You don't say the 281 00:13:27,559 --> 00:13:30,280 Speaker 2: names of the crew chief, et cetera, et cetera. You 282 00:13:30,440 --> 00:13:32,760 Speaker 2: just say that and then you turn to John Snyder 283 00:13:32,800 --> 00:13:34,559 Speaker 2: and then when the timing's right, you ask the question. 284 00:13:34,960 --> 00:13:37,960 Speaker 2: So I understand why you're annoyed by it, because it's 285 00:13:37,960 --> 00:13:41,679 Speaker 2: disrupting those guys from managing their team. And to that point, 286 00:13:41,840 --> 00:13:44,640 Speaker 2: I kind of agree with you, but I'm only going 287 00:13:44,720 --> 00:13:47,600 Speaker 2: to disagree with you from this standpoint. I actually think 288 00:13:47,600 --> 00:13:49,920 Speaker 2: it's a good viewing experience to see the reality of 289 00:13:50,240 --> 00:13:52,840 Speaker 2: all the stuff that's going on down there, as much 290 00:13:52,880 --> 00:13:55,480 Speaker 2: as it's still kind of clunky to get to it. 291 00:13:55,480 --> 00:13:57,800 Speaker 6: It's Game seven of the World shorties on no offense 292 00:13:57,800 --> 00:14:00,199 Speaker 6: to you, but your game in Kansas. 293 00:14:00,240 --> 00:14:01,839 Speaker 2: Doesn't matter, not the same. I got it. 294 00:14:01,920 --> 00:14:05,960 Speaker 6: I got Caleb Joseph is an ex MLB catcher. He's 295 00:14:06,040 --> 00:14:10,840 Speaker 6: also a TSN analyst, and he's been getting completely shit 296 00:14:10,880 --> 00:14:13,880 Speaker 6: on for forty eight hours for saying this after the 297 00:14:13,920 --> 00:14:14,880 Speaker 6: game on Saturday. 298 00:14:15,400 --> 00:14:16,920 Speaker 8: There were a lot of wet eyes and I don't 299 00:14:16,960 --> 00:14:19,840 Speaker 8: doubt them and I don't blame them for that. And 300 00:14:19,880 --> 00:14:22,000 Speaker 8: it's gonna sound like sour grapes and I don't really 301 00:14:22,040 --> 00:14:25,080 Speaker 8: give a shit, but I think the better team did 302 00:14:25,080 --> 00:14:27,680 Speaker 8: not win this series. I think the Blue Jays are 303 00:14:27,720 --> 00:14:30,040 Speaker 8: the better team, and I feel like they played baseball 304 00:14:30,440 --> 00:14:33,200 Speaker 8: a certain way that was infectious, that grabbed the attention 305 00:14:33,280 --> 00:14:36,680 Speaker 8: of the fans, and it's it's disheartening to see that 306 00:14:36,720 --> 00:14:38,720 Speaker 8: the better team did not win. And that's not to 307 00:14:38,760 --> 00:14:42,000 Speaker 8: take anything away from the Dodgers, but the Blue Jays, 308 00:14:42,040 --> 00:14:43,800 Speaker 8: they did so many things correct. 309 00:14:43,800 --> 00:14:45,040 Speaker 2: They did so many things right. 310 00:14:46,160 --> 00:14:50,720 Speaker 6: Caleb. Everything Caleb just said was correct. Key k elevated 311 00:14:50,760 --> 00:14:53,720 Speaker 6: this by like retweeting it. I'm so glad that the 312 00:14:53,720 --> 00:14:56,880 Speaker 6: worst team won and it's just been getting crushed by 313 00:14:56,920 --> 00:15:01,080 Speaker 6: Dodger fans. And I actually agree with Caleb Joseph. The 314 00:15:01,120 --> 00:15:03,480 Speaker 6: Boujay has lost the series. But they were the much 315 00:15:03,480 --> 00:15:07,440 Speaker 6: better team. They hit better, they pitched better, they scored 316 00:15:07,480 --> 00:15:10,680 Speaker 6: more runs per game. They were the better team. There 317 00:15:10,680 --> 00:15:13,920 Speaker 6: were just some like ridiculously unlucky things that didn't go 318 00:15:14,040 --> 00:15:17,120 Speaker 6: their way, I mean, just completely, and Dodgers made a 319 00:15:17,120 --> 00:15:19,560 Speaker 6: couple of clutch plays when they had to. But Caleb 320 00:15:19,600 --> 00:15:22,680 Speaker 6: Joseph is right, Bojays were the better team in this series. 321 00:15:24,200 --> 00:15:30,520 Speaker 2: Uh yeah again, I so you're annoyed at people just 322 00:15:30,880 --> 00:15:32,640 Speaker 2: roasting a guy saying they're the better team even though 323 00:15:32,640 --> 00:15:33,120 Speaker 2: they didn't win. 324 00:15:34,320 --> 00:15:38,640 Speaker 6: This guy's getting killed. I think I can't like an apology. 325 00:15:38,800 --> 00:15:41,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's because people are out of their mind. I 326 00:15:42,160 --> 00:15:45,600 Speaker 2: don't know if I don't know if I agree with you, 327 00:15:45,680 --> 00:15:48,480 Speaker 2: because they did make some errors, right, like getting picked 328 00:15:48,480 --> 00:15:51,200 Speaker 2: off second base. I think you pointed out, and it's 329 00:15:51,200 --> 00:15:53,680 Speaker 2: pointed out that Smoltz didn't say anything about it in 330 00:15:53,720 --> 00:15:55,560 Speaker 2: Game six when they got doubled up there at the 331 00:15:55,600 --> 00:15:57,760 Speaker 2: end of the game, Like that was an egregious error. 332 00:15:57,840 --> 00:16:00,520 Speaker 2: There were some other errors that they made that you 333 00:16:00,840 --> 00:16:07,240 Speaker 2: just can't make right, You just can't make I mean, 334 00:16:07,240 --> 00:16:10,440 Speaker 2: here's one like do you send the runner at first 335 00:16:10,440 --> 00:16:12,400 Speaker 2: base so you take yourself out of the double play? 336 00:16:13,600 --> 00:16:18,400 Speaker 2: That's like, that's a legit question there. But anyway, I 337 00:16:18,960 --> 00:16:22,440 Speaker 2: generally agree with you, like you're unless you played baseball. 338 00:16:22,520 --> 00:16:24,800 Speaker 2: Whether you agree or disagree with his opinion, he has 339 00:16:24,800 --> 00:16:27,520 Speaker 2: every right to his opinion, every right. And all these 340 00:16:27,560 --> 00:16:29,560 Speaker 2: people who are, you know, slamming him, they don't know, 341 00:16:29,880 --> 00:16:32,040 Speaker 2: they don't know shit about shit. I'm with you on 342 00:16:32,080 --> 00:16:32,400 Speaker 2: this one. 343 00:16:32,920 --> 00:16:36,840 Speaker 6: So all the aggravators NFL aggravators have jumped on this, 344 00:16:37,120 --> 00:16:40,760 Speaker 6: and I've also heard reports of this CARDI b is 345 00:16:40,880 --> 00:16:46,440 Speaker 6: the baby mama to be of Stefan Diggs. They've also 346 00:16:46,880 --> 00:16:50,640 Speaker 6: dug up three others that are currently pregnant with Stefan 347 00:16:50,680 --> 00:16:56,560 Speaker 6: Diggs's child, so he has four baby mamas to deliver, 348 00:16:56,720 --> 00:16:59,960 Speaker 6: and I think he has babies in this world from 349 00:17:00,120 --> 00:17:03,600 Speaker 6: multiple other women. I guess I'm annoyed by this. I'm 350 00:17:03,600 --> 00:17:07,240 Speaker 6: not religious, so this whole like sex out of wedlock 351 00:17:07,440 --> 00:17:10,399 Speaker 6: or having a child at a wedlock thing is to me, 352 00:17:10,640 --> 00:17:14,359 Speaker 6: that isn't It isn't a religious thing. It comes to me. 353 00:17:14,440 --> 00:17:16,040 Speaker 6: It comes down to this. And I'll say this about 354 00:17:16,040 --> 00:17:18,480 Speaker 6: Elon Musk too, So it's not a racial thing or 355 00:17:18,520 --> 00:17:23,119 Speaker 6: a cultural thing. If you have twelve kids by twelve 356 00:17:23,119 --> 00:17:25,960 Speaker 6: different women, there's no way you could be a present father. 357 00:17:26,119 --> 00:17:29,040 Speaker 6: So you're just opting to not be a present father. 358 00:17:29,920 --> 00:17:33,919 Speaker 6: And I don't know what man wants to admit to that. 359 00:17:36,800 --> 00:17:40,679 Speaker 2: I don't either. I mean, I'll give you my honest 360 00:17:40,680 --> 00:17:42,600 Speaker 2: answer is I would never do that. I mean, I'm 361 00:17:43,160 --> 00:17:46,159 Speaker 2: I live two plain flights away from my son and 362 00:17:46,160 --> 00:17:48,639 Speaker 2: it eats me alive on a daily basis. It's the 363 00:17:48,640 --> 00:17:50,320 Speaker 2: really The hardest part of my day is every day 364 00:17:50,480 --> 00:17:53,720 Speaker 2: again I'm knowing that my son. In addition and not living, 365 00:17:53,880 --> 00:17:55,639 Speaker 2: not living in the same house full time anymore, is 366 00:17:55,760 --> 00:17:58,919 Speaker 2: you know, I miss him. I miss him. I try 367 00:17:58,960 --> 00:18:01,080 Speaker 2: and be a present father really really hard. And I 368 00:18:01,119 --> 00:18:02,720 Speaker 2: don't know why anybody would brack about that. 369 00:18:02,760 --> 00:18:05,840 Speaker 6: I agree, and I can't, but I can't help but 370 00:18:05,920 --> 00:18:09,359 Speaker 6: judge him. I mean, you, you're a head coach of 371 00:18:09,520 --> 00:18:14,280 Speaker 6: many young men. You have a teenage son, Like what 372 00:18:14,359 --> 00:18:16,159 Speaker 6: if they what if one would come up to you 373 00:18:16,240 --> 00:18:18,320 Speaker 6: and be like, yeah, I've got four four in the 374 00:18:18,320 --> 00:18:20,520 Speaker 6: oven by four different women. 375 00:18:20,640 --> 00:18:20,920 Speaker 1: Coach. 376 00:18:21,440 --> 00:18:28,159 Speaker 2: Yeah, I just I don't it's it's terrible, right, and 377 00:18:28,240 --> 00:18:30,920 Speaker 2: it's terrible. Now, look for me, I don't want to 378 00:18:30,960 --> 00:18:33,919 Speaker 2: be a hypocrite because I don't have multiple you know, 379 00:18:33,920 --> 00:18:37,120 Speaker 2: I have only one baby mama, Right, That's that's it. 380 00:18:37,320 --> 00:18:40,760 Speaker 2: But I don't want to be a hypocrite and and say, hey, 381 00:18:40,840 --> 00:18:42,960 Speaker 2: you know you're not a present father. I mean again, 382 00:18:43,280 --> 00:18:45,320 Speaker 2: I took a job that moved away from my kids. 383 00:18:45,520 --> 00:18:49,960 Speaker 2: It's really really hard, but I didn't take away from 384 00:18:50,320 --> 00:18:53,280 Speaker 2: There's no chance of him living with three of them, right, 385 00:18:53,440 --> 00:18:56,600 Speaker 2: So I agree with you. He deserves to be called out. 386 00:18:56,520 --> 00:19:00,520 Speaker 6: So safon Diggs and his ilk Caleb Joe's of getting 387 00:19:00,520 --> 00:19:03,120 Speaker 6: shipped on and in game interviews. 388 00:19:05,840 --> 00:19:09,119 Speaker 2: I'm gonna do you know what I'm feeling. I'm feeling 389 00:19:09,160 --> 00:19:12,240 Speaker 2: like supporting Chase today because that was Game seven was 390 00:19:12,280 --> 00:19:14,879 Speaker 2: one of the most unbelievable sporting events I've watched. So 391 00:19:14,960 --> 00:19:18,840 Speaker 2: I'll support you in it, even though yeah, even though 392 00:19:18,840 --> 00:19:20,800 Speaker 2: I don't, I don't hate in game interviews. I love 393 00:19:20,840 --> 00:19:22,280 Speaker 2: the fact that it feels like it's in a game, 394 00:19:22,480 --> 00:19:25,320 Speaker 2: but the fact that it was so clunky in such 395 00:19:25,359 --> 00:19:28,800 Speaker 2: a big game, h I that one. I'm I'm gonna 396 00:19:28,800 --> 00:19:29,360 Speaker 2: side with you. 397 00:19:29,320 --> 00:19:41,480 Speaker 1: On why are we doing this? Because we can, all right? 398 00:19:41,560 --> 00:19:45,240 Speaker 6: Jamar Chase. Yesterday, after the Bengals gave up a ridiculous 399 00:19:45,280 --> 00:19:47,520 Speaker 6: touchdown to lose a game they thought they had come 400 00:19:47,560 --> 00:19:51,600 Speaker 6: back and won, Jamar Chase chose to be diplomatic with 401 00:19:51,760 --> 00:19:54,160 Speaker 6: reporters afterwards when talking about the defense. 402 00:19:54,440 --> 00:19:55,680 Speaker 2: I'm gonna stay in my lane. 403 00:19:55,880 --> 00:19:57,719 Speaker 9: I don't want to defensive player coming to me out 404 00:19:57,760 --> 00:19:58,840 Speaker 9: about what the fuck I'm doing. 405 00:20:00,040 --> 00:20:03,680 Speaker 6: Jace Brown, the running back, the offensive player for the Bengals, 406 00:20:03,760 --> 00:20:05,040 Speaker 6: chose a different tact. 407 00:20:06,000 --> 00:20:08,120 Speaker 9: We just got to play complimentary football. Like we put 408 00:20:08,119 --> 00:20:10,320 Speaker 9: the ball in the end zone and go up a 409 00:20:10,320 --> 00:20:13,920 Speaker 9: point at the end, finish the fucking game, like just ended, 410 00:20:14,560 --> 00:20:16,720 Speaker 9: Like that's it, Like that's that's like, that's what we 411 00:20:16,760 --> 00:20:19,920 Speaker 9: need to do. Just end the fucking game, like make them, 412 00:20:20,000 --> 00:20:22,040 Speaker 9: make them get us the ball back, let us fucking 413 00:20:22,040 --> 00:20:24,000 Speaker 9: go to twenty two victory, and let's end the game. 414 00:20:24,080 --> 00:20:25,639 Speaker 9: That's how that's like, that's how I feel. 415 00:20:28,040 --> 00:20:31,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, I again the Cincinnati Bengals. The Cincinnati Bengals are 416 00:20:31,800 --> 00:20:34,560 Speaker 2: a poop show. And you know you have one player 417 00:20:34,600 --> 00:20:37,240 Speaker 2: saying the right things, and then you have offensive players 418 00:20:37,240 --> 00:20:40,240 Speaker 2: that can't, Hey, listen, offensive players. If it really mattered 419 00:20:40,240 --> 00:20:42,600 Speaker 2: about your defense, you guys wouldn't have held the Bengals 420 00:20:42,680 --> 00:20:45,320 Speaker 2: upside down and shook them for every fucking penny. So 421 00:20:45,320 --> 00:20:48,000 Speaker 2: you have no money to spend on defense. Like that's 422 00:20:48,119 --> 00:20:51,120 Speaker 2: called being the worst teammate ever. I don't give a shit. 423 00:20:51,160 --> 00:20:53,680 Speaker 2: If you score forty seven fucking points, you don't say 424 00:20:53,680 --> 00:20:57,359 Speaker 2: a goddamn word about about your your defense not getting 425 00:20:57,359 --> 00:21:01,040 Speaker 2: a stop. Otherwise there will be games where you come 426 00:21:01,119 --> 00:21:03,120 Speaker 2: up short. Do you want them coming in and saying, hey, 427 00:21:03,320 --> 00:21:05,200 Speaker 2: you should have caught the fucking ball on third down? 428 00:21:05,560 --> 00:21:08,360 Speaker 2: You should have should have missed that block. I completely 429 00:21:08,359 --> 00:21:12,080 Speaker 2: disagree with that. That that is fanboy shit. That is you 430 00:21:12,119 --> 00:21:14,560 Speaker 2: know what's his name? By the way, the I because 431 00:21:14,600 --> 00:21:19,200 Speaker 2: I've seen that clip run a million times. Yes, Chase Brown. 432 00:21:19,400 --> 00:21:23,679 Speaker 2: Where did Chase Brown play in college? Yeah? Okay, so 433 00:21:23,760 --> 00:21:27,080 Speaker 2: when he's at Illinois, they weren't very fucking good. Okay. 434 00:21:27,119 --> 00:21:28,760 Speaker 2: He was also a Western I think he played Western 435 00:21:28,800 --> 00:21:31,280 Speaker 2: Michigan before there didn't he? I think so? I want 436 00:21:31,280 --> 00:21:33,960 Speaker 2: to say he played Western Michigan as well, but regardless, 437 00:21:34,280 --> 00:21:36,679 Speaker 2: Uh yeah, he played at Western Michigan. He ran the football. 438 00:21:36,720 --> 00:21:39,680 Speaker 2: Then he transferred up to Illinois. So on a game 439 00:21:39,720 --> 00:21:41,440 Speaker 2: which he didn't play, well, does he want guys coming 440 00:21:41,400 --> 00:21:42,680 Speaker 2: and going, hey, what do you guys? Do you guys 441 00:21:42,720 --> 00:21:44,439 Speaker 2: will go a game which he fumbles? Does he want low? 442 00:21:44,600 --> 00:21:47,800 Speaker 2: That's yeah? Shut the fuck up, Chase Brown. Who the 443 00:21:47,840 --> 00:21:50,160 Speaker 2: fuck are you saying that shit? Why could we play 444 00:21:50,200 --> 00:21:51,920 Speaker 2: for you? Because we can. That's it for the In 445 00:21:52,000 --> 00:21:53,920 Speaker 2: the Modus podcast, you got the radio show every day 446 00:21:53,920 --> 00:21:56,040 Speaker 2: three to five vision told to Pacific Fox Sports Radio. 447 00:21:56,160 --> 00:21:57,520 Speaker 2: iHeart Radio app. I'm Doug Goley