Speaker 1: Once upon a time there was a good old traditional housewife,
Speaker 1: and she couldn't.
Speaker 2: She cleaned and cared for her children and the man
Speaker 2: of the house, and of course she didn't talk back.
Speaker 2: She was both obedient and soft by nature.
Speaker 1: She was a good woman who always made good choices.
Speaker 2: We're good Mom's bad choices to single mom who said
Speaker 2: fuck the patriarchy shared all their bad choices and sound
Speaker 2: out they were so bad.
Speaker 3: After all, we're experts, overshares and your new besties.
Speaker 2: Sit back and enjoy the ride.
Speaker 3: I can.
Speaker 2: Welcome back to good Mom's bad choices. I'm Erica and
Speaker 2: I'm Nila. Happy hump Day, motherfuckers. Today is Wednesday.
Speaker 3: As always, We've met you every Wednesday for eight years
Speaker 3: on hump Day, to say, get the humping on.
Speaker 2: Speak of eight years, you guys, guess the fuck what
Speaker 2: it is?
Speaker 3: Our eight year anniversary, bait, eight year anniversary.
Speaker 2: It's our anniversary. We've been doing this ship for eight year.
Speaker 2: I can't believe that that's a crazy number. And I
Speaker 2: actually I looked at the number of eight in the
Speaker 2: like what it means, because like, what the fuck does
Speaker 2: eight mean?
Speaker 3: This is the longest relationship I've ever had.
Speaker 2: And I can't believe that we've talked this many times
Speaker 2: for the eight years on top of all the other
Speaker 2: talks that we already have, Like God, damn.
Speaker 3: It's you know what we're like, lesbian's turbo because aha,
Speaker 3: we're turbo lesbians. Because if we've been in if we've
Speaker 3: done this eight years in a row, that means we've
Speaker 3: talked like eight hundred thousand hours.
Speaker 2: The number eight symbolizes power, financial abundance, authority, and karma
Speaker 2: and numerology. It represents balance, infinity, and achievement, encouraging hard work, confidence,
Speaker 2: material success who often associated with new beginnings. It's also
Speaker 2: the sign of the Infinity sign, so it's forever and
Speaker 2: ever and ever and ever. Those with the life path
Speaker 2: eight are often seen as natural leaders, driven by ambition
Speaker 2: and the desire to control their own destiny through hard work,
Speaker 2: efficiency and organizational ability. And in case you wanted to
Speaker 2: know what it means in the Bible, the Bible, yeah,
Speaker 2: let's go for it, but Jesus. In the Bible, eight
Speaker 2: signifies a new beginning as it follows the seven day
Speaker 2: Creation week, representing a new order of resurrection. It also
Speaker 2: is connected to the circumcision of the heart and the
Speaker 2: Holy Spirit. Wait, what the heart circum I guess so
Speaker 2: because I had to rebad. Is that circumstansiircum heart?
Speaker 3: Maybe? Because so that the circumcision of the heart in
Speaker 3: the what.
Speaker 2: It means continuous flow interconnection of the of the material
Speaker 2: and spiritual worlds.
Speaker 3: I like materials and tangibles. I like that a lot,
Speaker 3: because this is a year.
Speaker 2: Baby, this is our I mean, every year, every.
Speaker 3: Year is our year. But it feels right that in
Speaker 3: year eight it's talking about tangible finances because I really
Speaker 3: feel like this. I nobody say this. Every year we
Speaker 3: got to but every year we have upped our up
Speaker 3: our like upped our income up to our our output,
Speaker 3: uped our you know, we've upped the things. So I
Speaker 3: think this year it really represents something where I don't know,
Speaker 3: like and I think about where we started and where
Speaker 3: we're at right now. I do feel like, wow, we've
Speaker 3: grown a whole lot. Lots of things have happened. Yeah,
Speaker 3: and we've been like working on a very top secret
Speaker 3: project project, and we've been looking a lot back at
Speaker 3: our history, in our our content, in our our old episodes,
Speaker 3: and it is really incredibly like heartwarming to.
Speaker 2: Watch us literally grow and just like our faces, our voices.
Speaker 3: It's so crazy. I'm just like really proud of the
Speaker 3: fact that we were consistent and that we stayed down
Speaker 3: for this.
Speaker 2: Do you know what I just realized, Oh my god,
Speaker 2: I'm getting those months. I just wanted. First of all,
Speaker 2: I just want us to mark our words here. Sometimes
Speaker 2: you have to like literally screenshot mark the words. I'm
Speaker 2: marking this moment right now because when we look back
Speaker 2: on this moment at the end of this year, there
Speaker 2: are going to be a lot of things that have
Speaker 2: shifted for us. And we can't really speak on it
Speaker 2: right now, but we have this really these really important
Speaker 2: meetings next week, and it's the week it's that it's
Speaker 2: the of our anniversary. It's a week of our eight
Speaker 2: year anniversary. Wow, we're having these meetings. What the fuck?
Speaker 3: What like to the to the date?
Speaker 2: Like God, thank oh my God.
Speaker 3: Sometimes God be speaking to you, but you don't be listening.
Speaker 3: You don't really see the the synchronicities, and you don't
Speaker 3: realize it's it's her being like got you big, God
Speaker 3: is good man. Yeah, I knew that.
Speaker 2: When this moment came to pass, which they're like, what
Speaker 2: is the moment. You'll find out later. But when it
Speaker 2: came to pass, it was going to be divine. It
Speaker 2: was going to be exactly what we hoped for. It
Speaker 2: was going to be so specific, and it is because
Speaker 2: we're some specific ass, manifesting ass, which is And on
Speaker 2: that note, I would like for us to take a
Speaker 2: toast in honor. You know, I feel like at all
Speaker 2: of our anniversary shows are all we drinking champagne. But
Speaker 2: this is really our main day, Yeah, it really is.
Speaker 3: We try to be classy because it's usually daytime. But
Speaker 3: I almost took a shot this morning clean my kitchen,
Speaker 3: but I didn't eat enough. I still haven't eaten enough.
Speaker 2: But you know this one, I have to say, this
Speaker 2: brand is very strong. It's not for shot reprisado.
Speaker 3: I know, for shots it's I wouldn't recommend this to shoot,
Speaker 3: but this is what we got. And Erica said we
Speaker 3: couldn't ask our rapper neighbor for juice, so I.
Speaker 2: Just already went over there. I didn'tant to talk to
Speaker 2: him again. God, you could have went over.
Speaker 3: He's nicer to you. He likes see it are your
Speaker 3: share one.
Speaker 2: Well. Also on the way over here, I broke the
Speaker 2: other shot class. Okay, so we only have one, which
Speaker 2: makes a lot of sense because we all want entity.
Speaker 2: Put a little loving into this cup of these spirits,
Speaker 2: this cup of tequila. Please let our entity continue to expand,
Speaker 2: protect our friendship, protect our protect the stories that we've
Speaker 2: told here and what other and other stories that have
Speaker 2: been told here from our guests, from our listeners. You
Speaker 2: guys are intrinsically part of this journey in such a
Speaker 2: intense way, and I'm just so grateful that you guys
Speaker 2: have listened and tuned in for eight years, watched our evolution,
Speaker 2: watched our growth, and I'm just grateful that we continue
Speaker 2: to say yes even during hard times, because that's when
Speaker 2: actually it means the most. So thank you God, Thank
Speaker 2: you most hi, thank you motherfucking tribe. We love you.
Speaker 2: And cheers, cheers go first.
Speaker 3: Who it's two twenty two to two?
Speaker 2: What that was crazy?
Speaker 3: And our tribe is calling us on Instagram? I know who?
Speaker 2: What the f?
Speaker 3: I don't know what's happening, but wow, what tribe it
Speaker 3: from Instagram? Twenty two? Baby? Now you look up what
Speaker 3: that means?
Speaker 2: God?
Speaker 3: All this, look at look at God. It never ends. Honestly,
Speaker 3: I feel like we say this a lot, and if
Speaker 3: you're a newcomer, we're gonna say it again. I'm going
Speaker 3: to continue to say it. When Erica and I met
Speaker 3: and we started to say yes, and we started to
Speaker 3: speak things, and literally we didn't really know each other,
Speaker 3: but we started to just have joint visions of what
Speaker 3: we wanted this to become. And they were literally dreams
Speaker 3: because we had no idea how we were gonna manifest
Speaker 3: those things. They were really big dreams, really big guests,
Speaker 3: and we didn't know shit about podcasting, like not a
Speaker 3: single thing. We literally just winged it, and we started
Speaker 3: to see, like so many things just come to fruition
Speaker 3: and knowing that when you meet someone who you're supposed
Speaker 3: to create with and produce with, like the entity is created,
Speaker 3: and our entity has been so mother fun and strong,
Speaker 3: Like things like this happen to us all the time.
Speaker 3: The calls, the time the song comes on, the opportunity
Speaker 3: just happens to be eight years to the date that
Speaker 3: we birthed our podcast and started to show like nothing
Speaker 3: is ever by chance, and it's like everything is a
Speaker 3: part of the story and you have to pay attention
Speaker 3: because like whatever you want, you can literally have it's
Speaker 3: about under like visualizing it and seeing it. And then
Speaker 3: when you have someone who also shares the vision that
Speaker 3: you have, it gives it power and it makes it,
Speaker 3: ignites it even quicker and even faster. And I think
Speaker 3: just having someone else believe in something that you also
Speaker 3: believe in, it's like, oh, yeah, I'm not crazy, I
Speaker 3: could totally make a million dollars. Whereas alone you start yourself,
Speaker 3: doubt will stop to creep in. But when you have
Speaker 3: two delusional bitches but out, yeah, it's crazy.
Speaker 2: Boom boom boom boom boo boom boom boom. No. I agree.
Speaker 2: And when we were talking today about this secret project
Speaker 2: that we have going, I was thinking, like, you know,
Speaker 2: we hear about this all the time. It's like you
Speaker 2: can't just manifest, you have to actually do it. And
Speaker 2: we did it. We fucking envisioned it. We wrote it down,
Speaker 2: we made versions of it, like we spoke about it
Speaker 2: as if it was already done. We said where we
Speaker 2: wanted it to be, we said who we wanted to
Speaker 2: be a part of it. Like it's just we spoke
Speaker 2: it into existence continuously, over and over and over again,
Speaker 2: and now.
Speaker 3: The fuck it's here, seeing too too too is widely
Speaker 3: interpreted in numerology. Is an angel number is signaling harmony, balance,
Speaker 3: and alignment in your life. It access a reassuring sign
Speaker 3: from the universe to maintain faith, embrace patience, and foster
Speaker 3: collaboration in relationships and career endeavors and encourages staying positive
Speaker 3: and trusting. The path you're on is strong signed to
Speaker 3: cultivate equilibrium in your life, whether it is work life balance,
Speaker 3: emotional stability, or harmony in relationships.
Speaker 2: YEP, sounds about what we need to do and continue
Speaker 2: to do.
Speaker 3: Your life's son that your life is unfolding exactly as
Speaker 3: it should, encouraging you to have faith. It's crazy. I
Speaker 3: already cried this morning, some water sign crying ass bitches. Yeah,
Speaker 3: but I'm really I'm just grateful. I'm grateful to be
Speaker 3: sitting in our own studio, sitting with David who is
Speaker 3: our OGU, producer, director, fucking videographer, an editor, visionary that really, like,
Speaker 3: I don't know, I feel like when David came to
Speaker 3: our lives and we were like we started getting popping,
Speaker 3: like we started to believe the poppin thiss and we
Speaker 3: started to see the vision. I like it's killing these clips.
Speaker 3: Well he is.
Speaker 2: He set the standard for our clips. Let's set the
Speaker 2: standard for how clips like continue to be shared in
Speaker 2: this space because it started without even it being like
Speaker 2: I'm not trying toete my own horn, but let me
Speaker 2: just tell to my own horn for one second. Because
Speaker 2: I got on the phone with someone today and she
Speaker 2: and she asked me how long I've been podcasting. I said,
Speaker 2: funny should ask. It's my eight year anniversary. And she said, oh, damn, y'all,
Speaker 2: like I have been doing this like for before. It
Speaker 2: was like cool, like before people were here and I
Speaker 2: was like, yeah, we have, and then like we were
Speaker 2: recording in my on my iPhone, and then we got
Speaker 2: in the studio because we need to get out of
Speaker 2: my house, not realizing that that's where podcasts were starting
Speaker 2: to shift, was like into these like set dynamics, looking
Speaker 2: like we're on set. We were one of the first
Speaker 2: podcasts to really up the ante when it came to
Speaker 2: like the visual of what this show looked like. And
Speaker 2: David was a really big part of that. We love
Speaker 2: you David for making those clips like quick witty to
Speaker 2: the point so people knew and knew exactly what they
Speaker 2: were about to get so David's also pioneer. I know
Speaker 2: you don't know who David is, but I'm gonna tag
Speaker 2: him on this fucking.
Speaker 3: Last time we showed David on the Instagram.
Speaker 2: I know they were like, whoa, who was David? Take it?
Speaker 2: I know.
Speaker 3: I was just talking about you, David the other day
Speaker 3: and I was telling Erica because I said, I think
Speaker 3: she said you had another project with like with like
Speaker 3: the like the prisoners and like in jail and rehabilitation.
Speaker 3: And I said, because when we started with David things
Speaker 3: like twenty five or twenty four, he's like twenty nine now.
Speaker 3: And I was like, Damn, David's going to have the.
Speaker 2: Most wide spectrum of like the what a real like
Speaker 2: it's showing his work. No, I was just like the
Speaker 2: of knowledge.
Speaker 3: I was like, he's gonna have the most like random
Speaker 3: like young white male and to be like, no, I
Speaker 3: know all about single motherhood, no actually free bleeding, no
Speaker 3: open open relationships. Let me tell you a little bit
Speaker 3: more about that. I'm like, oh, Krin Stephans, No, no
Speaker 3: I know about her. I literally is like, Damn, David
Speaker 3: is such an insight to like a are psychonists so
Speaker 3: shout out. Shout out to any man that can thrive
Speaker 3: in our world, in business and in personal relationships, because
Speaker 3: I realize that we're kind of nuts. We're kind I know,
Speaker 3: chat GBT keeps describing us as fucking chaotic, and I
Speaker 3: really hate it, but I yeah, it's kind of true.
Speaker 3: We both have add on a severe level. I'm not
Speaker 3: claiming that I have to for my sanity because it's
Speaker 3: the only thing that describes what the fuck that's wrong
Speaker 3: with me. I just have a lot of thoughts. I
Speaker 3: have a lot of thoughts, rap it, a lot of thoughts,
Speaker 3: a lot of rabbit like I often think, if someone
Speaker 3: had a camera on me alone, look crazy, Like I'm like,
Speaker 3: thank god nobody can see this. But for real, for
Speaker 3: sticking with us, and like riding with us and understanding
Speaker 3: our vision even when we're late, even when we're have
Speaker 3: seventeen purses and seventeen bags and we need help moving
Speaker 3: furniture because we were moving furniture in your mom's office.
Speaker 3: We were our first studio was her mom's office on
Speaker 3: the off day, and we would smoke weeds so it
Speaker 3: could air out, and we would move all of the
Speaker 3: office furniture out of one office, like heavy shit.
Speaker 2: Every time there was.
Speaker 3: Something that was very particularly heavy, was the was it
Speaker 3: the fucking dresser? It was something that it was like
Speaker 3: always every time, WHOA then we moved it back, like
Speaker 3: it was really intense. And I'm just really grateful for
Speaker 3: the whole team, for me, for Tarini, for Orlando, for David,
Speaker 3: like Shay, you know, everybody who has like really boggled
Speaker 3: down with us, and even those of you who we.
Speaker 2: Had to let go, Bless your hearts.
Speaker 3: The show still goes on, and it's just all been
Speaker 3: very intricate and very beautiful and very intentional, and bitch,
Speaker 3: it's about to be our whole thirties that we've been together.
Speaker 3: It's been like thirty to forty. The other day, we
Speaker 3: have a friend who goes to Luna's school, and he
Speaker 3: was like, he's friends with Eric his baby daddy, and
Speaker 3: he's like, you should have so and so on, and
Speaker 3: I was like, probably not. And then I was like,
Speaker 3: if the baby daddy's ever get on the show, just
Speaker 3: know it's the second to last episode and we're probably
Speaker 3: at year ten. I was like, at year ten, second
Speaker 3: to last episode, well, maybe I don't think I've ever
Speaker 3: had more.
Speaker 2: I don't think me and your baby daddy have ever
Speaker 2: shared more than like four sentences back and forth in
Speaker 2: the amount of time we've known each other. I like
Speaker 2: can't even imagine sitting down with him and having a
Speaker 2: full conversation. It's never happened. I don't think I've ever
Speaker 2: spoke to him more than two minutes. Maybe mad probably
Speaker 2: haven't in like a whole decade.
Speaker 3: The thing is, he's like fake quiet. He's a libra.
Speaker 3: He is very like in public, he's very quiet unless
Speaker 3: he's drunk, and that's how you know he's drunk. But
Speaker 3: other than that, that was the problem. He was only
Speaker 3: talking to me.
Speaker 2: No, I won't shut the fuck up.
Speaker 3: He was only talking to me.
Speaker 2: And I was like, and I told Erica.
Speaker 3: Recently, I saw him at at the same parent a
Speaker 3: BSU meeting and he kissed me on the cheek, and
Speaker 3: I was like, I didn't know what to do. It's like, like, okay,
Speaker 3: are we friends.
Speaker 2: Because we try to test you. You know, if you're listening,
Speaker 2: you have a baby dad. If you know, baby Daddy's
Speaker 2: be trying to test the especially after they've been married,
Speaker 2: especially I do you think I'm gonna be like? I mean,
Speaker 2: they just it's a test.
Speaker 3: I don't even know if he knows.
Speaker 2: See, of course he does. Someone has told him, Are
Speaker 2: you kidding? Yeah, I'm sure they absolutely, there's no way
Speaker 2: he doesn't know.
Speaker 3: And I blocked him or Luna asked me to block him,
Speaker 3: like a couple of years ago, and so I.
Speaker 2: He had But you guys have other people.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and good Mom says, probably the world.
Speaker 2: In which he doesn't know you're married, which is why
Speaker 2: he kissed you on the side of your mouth, because
Speaker 2: he's testing you. Because these niggas like to test just
Speaker 2: a little bit.
Speaker 3: I'm not gonna talk shit because he's been he's been
Speaker 3: sending money for the first time and the first time
Speaker 3: in eleven years. So I'm gonna just shut the fuck up.
Speaker 3: But also, yeah, weird, but I know, I'm really and
Speaker 3: I'm grateful for you. You're the one who actually pushed us.
Speaker 3: This is the one thing we have very like slight differences,
Speaker 3: because we're similar in a lot of ways, I think,
Speaker 3: but like there are certain things like Eric will be like, no,
Speaker 3: we have to do this, and I'm like, do we
Speaker 3: have to go to your mom's studio? The living rooms
Speaker 3: so nice, it's so comfy, everybody loves the dining room.
Speaker 3: It makes them feel like they're at home. It's like, no,
Speaker 3: everybody's going to the studio. When you go to the studio,
Speaker 3: I'm like, okay, fine. And now we were ahead of
Speaker 3: the game, ahead of the curve, and I'm just I'm
Speaker 3: grateful for our set. I don't know if you guys realized,
Speaker 3: because we just realized recently that we have worn many
Speaker 3: hats including we've been editor, we've been cameraman, we've been
Speaker 3: set designer, we've been author, we've been orderer of sign
Speaker 3: we've been set designer furniture, we've been stylists, to make
Speaker 3: a part of stylists, make about his wardrop hair stylist,
Speaker 3: train of director, scriptwriter, editor, it, social marketing, you name it,
Speaker 3: we've fucking done it. So I also would like, I
Speaker 3: think I feel this with the year of the fire Horse,
Speaker 3: and I invite you to do the same, like this
Speaker 3: is the year and for everyone listening to stop fucking
Speaker 3: doubting yourself, stop fucking questioning yourself, stop questioning what your
Speaker 3: talents are, which you've done all the things you've done,
Speaker 3: Like I think we don't necessarily itemize our skill set
Speaker 3: in a resume type of LinkedIn way because we're just
Speaker 3: doing it. But when you break down, even in motherhood,
Speaker 3: even stay at home moms, bitch you a cook, your organizer,
Speaker 3: your bill payer, you know, like your house manager. There
Speaker 3: are so many things that we do that we kind
Speaker 3: of like overlook, overlook and over humble because we're told
Speaker 3: to be humble and modest. Yes, come on, write me up,
Speaker 3: and I just don't feel I don't resonate with that anymore.
Speaker 3: I don't resonate with being humble, and.
Speaker 2: I don't resonate with being humble.
Speaker 3: I don't. I don't want to do it anymore. I
Speaker 3: want to be main character energy.
Speaker 2: Humble is not part of my brand.
Speaker 3: Pillars, it's not. Wait, so I note this is totally
Speaker 3: add who. I was at dinner with some of our
Speaker 3: friends and we were talking about the pillars of our
Speaker 3: friendship as a tribe, and the number one one was BBC.
Speaker 3: Well wait, our friend not a lot our friends were like,
Speaker 3: the pillars of our friendship is BBC.
Speaker 2: I was a.
Speaker 3: Community, motherhood, fun but the fact that BBC was number one,
Speaker 3: I was like, yep, BBC is the number one pillar
Speaker 3: of our tribe.
Speaker 2: Makes sense? Well, cheers to the pillars of our tribe,
Speaker 2: cheers the pillars of our friendship, and cheers to.
Speaker 3: J America to being yourself, being yourself, because being yourself wins.
Speaker 3: Look at us for winning with a peak sign and
Speaker 3: jokes that offendman and a book with our ass out
Speaker 3: in the back offend.
Speaker 2: It makes money. This asmr m m hmmm.
Speaker 3: I think we need to get Finally, we need to
Speaker 3: invest in a bar here, like a classy one. Okay,
Speaker 3: any bad choices of the week.
Speaker 1: I love bad mom, not a bad mom, but a
Speaker 1: bad mom so good.
Speaker 2: I'm there are some bad choices this week. We have
Speaker 2: some people that wrote in some bad choices. And if
Speaker 2: you want to have your bad choices featured on our show,
Speaker 2: make sure you go to good Mom's Bad Choices dot
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Speaker 2: choices of the week, write in any advice question, write
Speaker 2: in your horror stories. We want to hear from you.
Speaker 2: I actually really love hearing from you, so we want
Speaker 2: to hear from you. Actually a lot.
Speaker 3: More in the dms and the emails and the discord
Speaker 3: sign up for Patreon. Discord is popping. I'm really like
Speaker 3: Discord is one of the best things we created because
Speaker 3: we're in there, but mostly all the other good moms
Speaker 3: are in there, and they're talking and telling their stories
Speaker 3: and they're sharing, and they're going on trips and there
Speaker 3: it's just a place to have a safe space. And
Speaker 3: sometimes it's nice to have a safe space where you
Speaker 3: don't really know people and then you can get to
Speaker 3: know them, but you have a space to share your ideas,
Speaker 3: your projects and there's no judgment. I kind of realized
Speaker 3: I'd like sharing my shit with strangers because there's no attachment.
Speaker 2: No, I mean tell you what I'm struggling with. I
Speaker 2: think it's the most valuable part of our community. And
Speaker 2: it's ten dollars a month and literally you can you
Speaker 2: have full access to so much our episodes, early us
Speaker 2: talking directly to you, us complaining directly to you. You
Speaker 2: have a community of women that you can share your
Speaker 2: horror stories with, your bad choices, and we have a
Speaker 2: section discord called girl Guess What where you can like
Speaker 2: share the things your accomplishments because sometimes like your family
Speaker 2: be hating, people be hating, you need strangers to hype
Speaker 2: you up. So it's a very beautiful curated tribe.
Speaker 3: I'm literally texting one of our past retreaties, like I'm
Speaker 3: having an impromptu party at my house tonight. I told
Speaker 3: her Landa, He's not going to be there.
Speaker 2: Well, speaking of which, which is so crazy, I called Mela,
Speaker 2: I'm gonna get to the bad dress of the week.
Speaker 2: But today just speaking on our witchiness. Literally today, I'm
Speaker 2: at the computer and I'm thinking about the retreat. And
Speaker 2: you know, we have a retreat coming up in Costa
Speaker 2: Rica in July, and people always ask us like how
Speaker 2: do I know what the retreat is for me? Like
Speaker 2: what age range? And so I was, I've been updating
Speaker 2: our website and I was thinking about someone specific that
Speaker 2: came to our retreat who I haven't spoke with in
Speaker 2: like two years. Shout out to Gwen. She came for her.
Speaker 2: I think it was her her sixtieth birthday. It was like,
Speaker 2: she's it was her sixtieth maybe I think so her
Speaker 2: sixtieth birthday. She came to the retreat, and I was like,
Speaker 2: I need to find a picture of Gwen and put
Speaker 2: her on the websites. People can see like it's a range,
Speaker 2: like we have twenty three year olds to come to
Speaker 2: six year old.
Speaker 3: I want to see her like her drop it low session.
Speaker 2: She yeah, because she was lit. When was lit, she
Speaker 2: was showing us the toe, the tiptoe, the tipy toe stripper.
Speaker 2: Drop it low anyway, I thought of her. Literally thirty
Speaker 2: seconds later, this bitch called me. I have not spoken
Speaker 2: to her in two years, and I answered the phone.
Speaker 2: I was like, are you fucking kidding me right now?
Speaker 2: And she's like, I'm in LA And I was like.
Speaker 3: It's like, little there's something, and there's something inside you
Speaker 3: that knows, and like the energy of people is closed,
Speaker 3: the frequency of energy is much is much more prominent
Speaker 3: than words. We're limited in language. Start using your like
Speaker 3: you're subconscious to attract what you need.
Speaker 2: But it was like it validated my wishiness valid It
Speaker 2: made me feel so happy that she felt like she
Speaker 2: knows that she can call me Like that's the thing
Speaker 2: when you come to our retreats, like we're your friends
Speaker 2: for real. After you come and you come hang out
Speaker 2: with us, like you have our phone number, you can
Speaker 2: pull up on us, you can pull up on the
Speaker 2: track like it's real shit. This isn't for fake, This
Speaker 2: isn't like no fucking ass bullshit where pe No, we're
Speaker 2: not those type of bitches. So I just was happy
Speaker 2: that she a called me. I mean, we already had
Speaker 2: that report anyway, but I was like, what the fuck
Speaker 2: my mind? So today I was like, ask for everything.
Speaker 3: But I told you that happened to me. Literally last week,
Speaker 3: I was thinking about one of the girls who lives
Speaker 3: out here, and I was like, she was like, I
Speaker 3: don't have a lot of friends in Elia. I was like, girl,
Speaker 3: call me, and I'm pretty good. I'm good at reaching
Speaker 3: out to people. I probably am the glue to most
Speaker 3: of my relationships. I'm on here for somebody for six
Speaker 3: months or six years and then let me call this bitch.
Speaker 3: And I literally was like, why did that bitch call me?
Speaker 3: And literally I was in the club and the party
Speaker 3: and the bitch walked in and I said, bitch, I
Speaker 3: was just thinking about your ass. You never called me back.
Speaker 3: She's like, I know, I'm so bad at that it was,
Speaker 3: and she was like kind of that deep voice she's
Speaker 3: talking me over tonight too. But I really do value
Speaker 3: all the girls we meet and like the friendships that
Speaker 3: we make. Also, Zoe's coming on town next week. She
Speaker 3: wants to go to the woods, but Zoey from Jamaica,
Speaker 3: no yeah. Sorry from Joey from San Diego who was
Speaker 3: in Jamaica.
Speaker 2: That's nice. Okay, so we had to some people. Actually
Speaker 2: these are from the Discord. Shout out to the Discord
Speaker 2: who shared to some bad choices they've made this week.
Speaker 2: I'm not sure too, because they're quick and they're bad choices.
Speaker 2: Like they're actually they're not good choices. Number one. My
Speaker 2: bad choice of the week is that I reached out
Speaker 2: to someone that rejected me before. That's the bad choice
Speaker 2: of the week.
Speaker 3: Wait say it again. My baby guys asked, we have
Speaker 3: to get my kids what No, I'm not.
Speaker 2: She reached out to someone who rejected her before.
Speaker 3: I have a theory on this, but continue that's it.
Speaker 2: That's it.
Speaker 3: My theory on this, because I've experienced this is it's
Speaker 3: definitely because we know this person. Write this from the retreat.
Speaker 3: No oh, I thought that was the thing about reaching
Speaker 3: out to people that have been you've been rejected by
Speaker 3: or actively rejecting you. There is a wound, and this
Speaker 3: is my theory. I'm not a therapist. I am a
Speaker 3: sexologists though, so whatever, I'm an expert because I've done this.
Speaker 3: I do think there's a thread and a wound that
Speaker 3: goes back to a time where you didn't feel good enough.
Speaker 3: Probably a parent or a guardian was not present, and
Speaker 3: you were neglected in that and you felt not important.
Speaker 3: And I think that without being conscious of that, you
Speaker 3: will go into relationships actively pleading for validation because there
Speaker 3: is something that hasn't been fulfilled. You feel like you
Speaker 3: have to prove yourself. You want to be like, I
Speaker 3: want to show you what a good person I am.
Speaker 3: I'm going to show you what a good woman I am.
Speaker 3: I want to show you that I'm valuable. And so
Speaker 3: you'll go back to a place where you've been obviously
Speaker 3: rejected and it's like dah, fuck you, but also.
Speaker 2: Please pick me.
Speaker 3: So I encourage you to take a moment and go
Speaker 3: back in yourself and in your history of when there
Speaker 3: was a time in your childhood that you felt rejected
Speaker 3: and then comfort that version of you so that you
Speaker 3: can make amends. And so when someone else rejects you,
Speaker 3: you're not actively trying to fight for it, because the
Speaker 3: truth is some of rejecting you is God saying pass,
Speaker 3: like it's giving you a fast pass to the next thing.
Speaker 3: But if you like, dig your closet and try harder
Speaker 3: and try harder. It's this whole fucking back and forth
Speaker 3: that is a waste of time and it may block
Speaker 3: you from your blessings. So I do encourage you to
Speaker 3: take a moment to sit with yourself and say, when
Speaker 3: is the last time I felt this way? Was it
Speaker 3: from a father or was it from a mom? Was
Speaker 3: it this or that? And then like find that version
Speaker 3: of you and say I'm here for you always. You
Speaker 3: don't have like whatever the words you need to hear
Speaker 3: at that time.
Speaker 2: Okay, that's it. I agree. I agree. I'm always like
Speaker 2: trying to find the like not always, but sometimes when
Speaker 2: I hear these things, I'm trying to like understand, like, okay,
Speaker 2: well there is there is there any Is there ever
Speaker 2: a time where it can be helpful to go back
Speaker 2: to a source a place of rejection, like going back
Speaker 2: and if you need to go, investigate the why because
Speaker 2: maybe it is something that you need to work on.
Speaker 2: The person like passed you up because.
Speaker 4: You're overbearing or you're too jealous, like don't jump to
Speaker 4: it's not you. Yeah, like I don't know, Like I
Speaker 4: don't always know if that's the case, and so like
Speaker 4: it could be and because I think that that's definitely
Speaker 4: true for sure, and like, you know, either way, you
Speaker 4: might be you know, bypassing.
Speaker 2: Like a feeling or watering a wound. But I do
Speaker 2: think that it's sometimes sometimes it's important to ask, be like, hey,
Speaker 2: I guess so like you rejected me, what was it?
Speaker 2: I don't think it's important, but if it's, if it
Speaker 2: feels important, I'm curious to know, like why, and what
Speaker 2: was the purpose? Was it to be chosen or was
Speaker 2: it to investigate the situation? Those are two different things.
Speaker 3: Yeah, is it like begging to be in that space again?
Speaker 3: Or is it to to inquire about self reflection and
Speaker 3: if you've maybe lacked awareness in your behavior?
Speaker 2: Okay, I like that. And so another bad choice of
Speaker 2: the week kind of similar to this vibe, which kind
Speaker 2: of lets me know sometimes where we as women are
Speaker 2: in our needing to be chosen and understand ourselves and
Speaker 2: why validated this bad choice of the week. I reached
Speaker 2: out to an old hookup looking for validation about my desirability.
Speaker 3: What is desirability? Like if I'm desirable, like if I'm pretty,
Speaker 3: if I'm.
Speaker 2: Like, I mean, maybe she okay, this could be right,
Speaker 2: as like maybe she went and hooked up with an
Speaker 2: old nigga to like make sure, like to show that
Speaker 2: she got it or maybe she reached out. Yeah, it
Speaker 2: sounds like that's what it is, you know what I
Speaker 2: Sometimes sometimes you gotta do that.
Speaker 3: You can sometimes you remember who the fuck you are,
Speaker 3: and sometimes you got to outsource. Yeah, you could do
Speaker 3: a lot of affirmations and shit, but sometimes you gotta
Speaker 3: go out, put the freaking dress on, put on the stilettos,
Speaker 3: and say, yeah, you see me, bitch, Yeah, you see me?
Speaker 3: M yeah, do it?
Speaker 2: I agree.
Speaker 3: Yeah. So you could do that with someone new, though
Speaker 3: you don't have to do that with old people. You
Speaker 3: could do that because you already know those niggas. You
Speaker 3: already know those niggas want you. The niggas you.
Speaker 2: Had, they still know what it is. Go outside, I
Speaker 2: find some new niggas. I know. It does something about
Speaker 2: knowing that they're still Yeah, yeah, you know about like
Speaker 2: knowing that they.
Speaker 3: Niggas like once a year, so you remember who the
Speaker 3: fuck I am. Like if I blocked you all, I'm
Speaker 3: block you if I remember, so I could be like
Speaker 3: you see me, you see me, nicking, I know I
Speaker 3: still look good. You lost, bitch, I.
Speaker 2: Had X calming the other day and tell me how
Speaker 2: amazing I was. And I was like, mm hmm, I
Speaker 2: know that's great. Yeah, tell me more. M Yeah, thank you.
Speaker 2: I did feel good evening. Lie Do I want that? Nigga? Now?
Speaker 2: Do I like the validation? Yes? So I feel So.
Speaker 2: Do you have any bad choices of the week, my dear.
Speaker 3: You know I do. It was from last year and
Speaker 3: it was like, you know, I like to tell things.
Speaker 2: Should we take a shot for it? Sure?
Speaker 3: Because techlony, you've only taken one because we're splitting them right.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so this is our second and one and a
Speaker 2: half shot.
Speaker 3: This is I'm gonna. I'm gonna. I'm gonna shorten this
Speaker 3: because it's a ridiculously long and stupid story. But it's
Speaker 3: really important because I should have listen to my cut.
Speaker 2: Break it down. Let me take the shot. Are you
Speaker 2: sure to listen to your best friend? Let's not forget
Speaker 2: about that.
Speaker 3: Eric Erica hates me, mabe Erica kind of a little
Speaker 3: bit hates me making new friends.
Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, once, I don't approve of this.
Speaker 2: Once that you haven't passed my scorpios bidy senses. You know, cancers,
Speaker 2: they love everybody I'd be like, now, okay, well let
Speaker 2: me tell you. And it's not even that I didn't
Speaker 2: love this bitch. I just knew where to keep her.
Speaker 3: It's true, everybody, if you're cancer, you're crazy like me,
Speaker 3: and you bring everybody in. You're like, you're my best friend.
Speaker 3: My craziness of friendship fucking hoarning is insane. My drug
Speaker 3: dealer thinks we're best friends. Really, and he calls me
Speaker 3: all the time, okay, and he's always like last time
Speaker 3: he called me, he's like, I fell out of my car.
Speaker 3: Hell out, bitch, Sarah a black eye? Can I just
Speaker 3: come over? I'm only with this nigga. And I'm like, okay,
Speaker 3: come over. Fucking black guy giving he's a kid. That
Speaker 3: the black woman thing you do? I was like, I
Speaker 3: don't have any black tricks. I have is the black
Speaker 3: woman thing? I don't know. He's Dominican from New York.
Speaker 3: What in the fuck is he talking about?
Speaker 2: Whatever?
Speaker 3: I gave his nigga some.
Speaker 2: Ice, like some ice and some fucking the what's the article?
Speaker 3: Anyway? He called me on Valentine Say for no reason
Speaker 3: at all. He's out of town. He's like, I'm like,
Speaker 3: why are you calling me he's the drug dealer. He's
Speaker 3: like talking to me, like, yeah, I'm just watching a
Speaker 3: movie with my girl. It's snowing out here. I'm like, okay,
Speaker 3: so we're just talking. I'm like, I'm the jacuzzie with Orlando.
Speaker 3: He's like, tell him.
Speaker 2: I said Hi.
Speaker 3: I was like, someone tells Hi. Here goes this bache
Speaker 3: in the background. Y'all fucking comfortable? I said, are you kidding?
Speaker 3: I said, nigga, call me back. What the fuck? Why
Speaker 3: the fuck is she nigga? I said, I'm married. He said,
Speaker 3: He's like, she's with her man. I said, my husband,
Speaker 3: her husband. I said, bye bye, don't stop calling me.
Speaker 3: Why am I arguing with you? Arguing with her? This
Speaker 3: is the part when my friendliness is just out of him. Anyway,
Speaker 3: story time, last year, we had we because Erica likes
Speaker 3: to forget that she also has these friends. We had
Speaker 3: a friend and she was really adamant about like really
Speaker 3: making new friends and spending time with friends that she
Speaker 3: said she was going to make. So I was like,
Speaker 3: I'm all game, let's hang out. She got a man
Speaker 3: and we all started hanging out together. It was like
Speaker 3: we're doing double dates. We're barbecue and we.
Speaker 2: Did a few holidays together.
Speaker 3: It was a full on thing. It was fine. Our
Speaker 3: kids were hanging out. Even though our kids were like
Speaker 3: low like, it was just it was we were creating
Speaker 3: a little community. So she asked me in Orlando and
Speaker 3: Luna if we want to go on a road trip
Speaker 3: to I mean, I didn't say where, because a place,
Speaker 3: a place in the mountains, and she and I said okay, sure,
Speaker 3: I think. A couple of weeks later, we get we
Speaker 3: our offer to go to breakfast club and the week
Speaker 3: it was the weekend before we would be leaving like
Speaker 3: that Monday or Tuesday. And I was like, damn, that's
Speaker 3: pretty close. I really need to prepare. And I was like,
Speaker 3: you know, I already agreed. Fuck it. She was like,
Speaker 3: you guys don't have to pay for anything. She tells Orlando.
Speaker 3: All you guys need, all he needs to do is
Speaker 3: like help with driving. And Orlando's like, yeah, it's only
Speaker 3: eight hours. I was there like six. I was like, babe,
Speaker 3: that's not true. It's it's a strong twelve hours. He's like, no, no, no,
Speaker 3: she said, like seven or eight hours. I said no. Anyway,
Speaker 3: remember were supposed to leave I think Monday or Tuesday.
Speaker 2: First, well, she telling me the story. She's like, I'm
Speaker 2: leaving Friday, I'll be back Sunday. I'm like, this sounds
Speaker 2: like a horrible plan for a twelve hour drive, and.
Speaker 3: I was like, I know, but you know, I agreed. Okay,
Speaker 3: So we were supposed to be Friday, but her genius
Speaker 3: of a boyfriend didn't pick up the car Friday night,
Speaker 3: so we had to wait till Saturday at nine am.
Speaker 3: So me, Orlando and poor Luna is my shit. We
Speaker 3: all he comes with this van. We all get in
Speaker 3: the van. There's another there's another friend there. There's another
Speaker 3: person there, another adult, like a younger adult, a cousin,
Speaker 3: and this couple. So we start to drive in and
Speaker 3: we get about three hours into the drive, we stop
Speaker 3: and get gas. Okay, it's already late, we're already Saturday.
Speaker 3: We're coming back Sunday.
Speaker 2: It's pretty stupid, but fuck it.
Speaker 3: So we get gas. Then we leave the gas station
Speaker 3: and we get back on the freeway. About one minute
Speaker 3: into the freeway, the car stops and immediately I knew
Speaker 3: something was wrong and I said, we're stopped and he's like,
Speaker 3: I don't know, no, no, keep in mind, this person's
Speaker 3: in the military, So you would think there's like a
Speaker 3: certain level of intelligence that you have to have to
Speaker 3: be in the US military, right or like whatever. So
Speaker 3: the first thing I say is what kind of guys
Speaker 3: did you put in the car? He says Diesel? Sorry,
Speaker 3: he says Diesel. It's a twelve passenger van. Why And
Speaker 3: I just got quiet real quick. I was like, I
Speaker 3: don't know. I ain't no expert. But he's like, the
Speaker 3: calf was yellow, so I put in Diesel.
Speaker 2: I said, I don't know about none of that.
Speaker 3: So we're sitting on the side of the road, and
Speaker 3: we're like in the middle of California. And if you're
Speaker 3: from California, know there's not shit in the middle. Okay,
Speaker 3: there's La there's Sacramento, there's San Francisco, there's nothing in
Speaker 3: the middle of Suddenly you're in a farmland. Suddenly you're
Speaker 3: in the country with the weirdos, with the weirdos with nothing.
Speaker 3: We're on the side of the road.
Speaker 2: I google yellow cap not correct. Why why was it yellow?
Speaker 3: Because it's for it's for carbon, it's for something easily
Speaker 3: googleble a google abowl. Okay, anybody, First of all, I'm
Speaker 3: not a car bage, but I'm an independent bitch. I've
Speaker 3: been alone in this life as an adult for a
Speaker 3: long time. I've heard some stories. I know for a
Speaker 3: motherfucking fact, you put diesel on a car, it's fucked.
Speaker 3: You're done.
Speaker 2: I text Orlando immediately he put diesel.
Speaker 3: We're fucked. I text him where fucked. I start looking
Speaker 3: at Ubers rental cars.
Speaker 2: I Uber.
Speaker 3: There's no Uber anywhere in sight, because you're in the
Speaker 3: middle of nowhere. This nigga, Oh my god, this is
Speaker 3: where it really gets.
Speaker 2: Clear.
Speaker 3: They're in the front seat. He's talking to her like
Speaker 3: I am gonna. I'm calling the car people right now.
Speaker 3: We're all behind them. I can I could see him.
Speaker 3: He's like, he's like yeah. At no point does he
Speaker 3: say fuck, I don't think it's diesel. Fuck I fucked up. Hey,
Speaker 3: guys right behind me, my bat nothing. He's whispering like
Speaker 3: a little fucking mouse, acting like he's on the phone. Bitch,
Speaker 3: we are in beasts bumblefuck. These people are not coming
Speaker 3: to get us.
Speaker 2: I mean a way.
Speaker 3: I don't get out the car to go smoke a blunt.
Speaker 3: And I said, nigga. He said, nigga, we're in the
Speaker 3: We're like in the fields like nigga, nigga. He's like,
Speaker 3: I'm gonna go walk back. We're trying to look at ubers.
Speaker 3: Nothing is insight. He starts walking back to the exit,
Speaker 3: which is some ways the way. At this point it's
Speaker 3: like far, it's not we can't even see it.
Speaker 2: Like one minute away in a car.
Speaker 3: It's so as he walks away, I tell her, I said,
Speaker 3: this ain't no diesel car. She's like, I know. I
Speaker 3: told him.
Speaker 2: And she's a pretty cut throat bitch cutthroat.
Speaker 3: So I was like, Wow, she's being really gentle, and
Speaker 3: I figured, there's this is already. It's her child's sixteenth birthday.
Speaker 3: Her child is waiting for us in ated and like
Speaker 3: a destination, and then we have to go to the
Speaker 3: second destination. It's all bad and I'm with my fucking
Speaker 3: ten year old. Okay, So finally hours start going by,
Speaker 3: we start realizing we're not close to shit. We end
Speaker 3: up they're like, we have to call the police, and
Speaker 3: I was like, I don't know, you guys black people
Speaker 3: calling the police in East bumblefuck, Like oh no, Like
Speaker 3: that doesn't seem like what we should do. But then
Speaker 3: like she's like, we don't have a choice, and I
Speaker 3: was like, okay, with all this shit in the car,
Speaker 3: we have our luggage. Highway patrol comes to get us.
Speaker 3: He's like, it's about to be traffic hour, bitches. I
Speaker 3: can take you in one bag. I can take two
Speaker 3: trips each of you one back. So me, Orlando and
Speaker 3: Luna get in the back of a cop car with
Speaker 3: one bag each. First I have to put my child
Speaker 3: in a cop car. It's a black woman. This is crazy.
Speaker 3: We get in the car. We're laughing. Thank god, I mean, Orlando,
Speaker 3: are chill people because we're me. Orlando and Luda are
Speaker 3: cracking up, Like what the fuck. We get to the
Speaker 3: fucking rest stop. There's nothing there. At this point, the
Speaker 3: air is thick. No one's saying much. They go get
Speaker 3: the second round of people. We finally get in contact
Speaker 3: with a tow truck. The tow truck, NIGGD, comes hours later.
Speaker 3: This is like, at this point, four hours, this is
Speaker 3: just we're it's the sun is going down. Somehow. We
Speaker 3: bribe the guy to to load the van on the
Speaker 3: back of the truck with us in it to take
Speaker 3: us to the nearest city, which is an hour and
Speaker 3: a half away. We like throw him some money, and
Speaker 3: he's like, listen, I'm really not supposed to do this.
Speaker 3: You guys, stay down, don't turn your phones on. I
Speaker 3: can't have any phone reflecting, like no lights, just you
Speaker 3: gotta stay down. Like this is really I can I'm
Speaker 3: not supposed to do this. So Luna's hearing this, so
Speaker 3: she's like, we have like ice cream because we were
Speaker 3: at the ice cream set. We're all in the back
Speaker 3: of this van. We're in a twelve steter van on
Speaker 3: top of a tow truck, so we're just like we're
Speaker 3: like bent down. Like Luna's like, he's like, it's cold.
Speaker 3: It starts beginning to get cold. Go my phone, and
Speaker 3: it was like, turn your phone off. So then I
Speaker 3: turn on some music. She's like turn it off. I'm like, Luna,
Speaker 3: they can't hear the music. She's like, turn it off.
Speaker 3: She's frightened. Me and Orlando are cracking up because at
Speaker 3: this point we're like this is I literally was like,
Speaker 3: should we call should we try.
Speaker 2: To go back?
Speaker 3: But there's no way to get back, there's no ubers.
Speaker 3: Two hours later, keep in mind three hours driving about
Speaker 3: three hours and this desolate parking off the Furry place.
Speaker 3: Then we get in the back of a fucking van
Speaker 3: on a fucking trailer track on the fucking tow truck.
Speaker 3: We get to the parking lot. We jump off of
Speaker 3: this machine. Immediately we're like, I gotta get food. The
Speaker 3: two smart ones who plan the trip they have to
Speaker 3: go rent another car, so two of them get in
Speaker 3: ano Uber. The rest of us go get food because
Speaker 3: there happens to be like a food situation. And one
Speaker 3: of the girls, it was her little cousin be nineteen.
Speaker 3: We were kind of close to the to where we're going.
Speaker 3: She somehow gets a ride. She said, I'm out.
Speaker 4: She got a rhymee, she got a ryde want her
Speaker 4: homegirls picked her up.
Speaker 3: I was jealous as shit. I was like, you're not out.
Speaker 2: I'm getting the fuck out of here.
Speaker 3: She was nineteen. She was like, I'm out. So we
Speaker 3: go to the thing. We were like like, the other
Speaker 3: girl is friends with her, like really friends, so I'm
Speaker 3: like trying not to talk shit me Orlando. Luna's just
Speaker 3: like we eat.
Speaker 2: They come back with the car.
Speaker 3: We jam into this car, repack the stuff, abandon that car,
Speaker 3: drive two more.
Speaker 2: Hours to an airport where there's one car.
Speaker 3: Left because we can't all fit because we still had
Speaker 3: to pick up her kid and her kid's friends car.
Speaker 2: It is a Mustang crossover suv.
Speaker 3: But here's the catch. It's electric.
Speaker 2: Oh fuck.
Speaker 3: Okay, so we slid up. They go get the kids,
Speaker 3: her kids, Meat or Land know, Luna and this woman
Speaker 3: that's her friend get in this electric car. We drive
Speaker 3: to the woman just happens to have an apartment. Okay,
Speaker 3: I'm just gonna take the places because it's stressing me out.
Speaker 3: Happens to have a place in Oakland. We're going to
Speaker 3: Lake Tahoe. She's like, I'm gonna take a shower because
Speaker 3: she had flown in from Atlanta to LA to do
Speaker 3: this road trip. So now we're in the middle of
Speaker 3: this thing. So she's like, I haven't showered. I have
Speaker 3: an apartment in Oakland. We stop at her apartment. They
Speaker 3: keep going. Me and Orlando are like, how long we're
Speaker 3: gonna be in here? She's taking like an hour long shower,
Speaker 3: and we're like, where's the balcony? Can we smoke? Luna
Speaker 3: is like, what the fuck? It's night. It's like a
Speaker 3: it's like ten pm at this point. Finally we get
Speaker 3: back in this electric car. We start driving to Tahoe.
Speaker 3: We fall asleep. I hear her on the phone with
Speaker 3: Alamo or whatever. The fuck is there a charger in
Speaker 3: this car? Because I don't see a converter. I was like,
Speaker 3: there's no way we left, and she'd this bitch who
Speaker 3: has an electric She's like, I have electric car for
Speaker 3: years and I don't see a converter. I was like,
Speaker 3: So we start going up the hill to Tahoe and
Speaker 3: I don't know sit about electric car, but now I do.
Speaker 3: You start going uphill, bitch, The electricity starts going down quick,
Speaker 3: so we pull. She's having this conversation on the way up.
Speaker 3: Then I fall back asleep. Then we get to a charger.
Speaker 3: She can't find the converter, and it's cold now because
Speaker 3: we've started going into this mountain. It has to be
Speaker 3: like one in the morning at this point. Finally we
Speaker 3: find a charger that takes a universal fucking card. We
Speaker 3: have to like turn the car off four to charge's
Speaker 3: like forty five minutes. Like this shit doesn't charge fast.
Speaker 3: It's like an hour of forty five minute charge, so
Speaker 3: we had to stop again. We finally get up this
Speaker 3: mountain to this fucking cabin. There's no jacuzzi, which everybody
Speaker 3: knows you never go on a ski trip without any jacuzzi.
Speaker 3: What the fuck? So then we get there, they're all
Speaker 3: sleep and was there?
Speaker 2: Who is them?
Speaker 3: Oh? Her the smart boyfriend, their kid, her the kid's friend.
Speaker 3: And now we have finally made it to the house
Speaker 3: and like, at this point, all you could really do
Speaker 3: is laugh. The point of this story is, anyway, the
Speaker 3: next day we wake up. We have one day. We
Speaker 3: have one day. We just got in eight hours ago.
Speaker 3: I mean, like, I'm really trying to ski. We make
Speaker 3: these plans to ski. Orlando and the boyfriend have to
Speaker 3: go charge the car, get groceries, so they leave. We
Speaker 3: get dressed to go to the mountain. We get to
Speaker 3: the mountain, they meet us. They meet us there from
Speaker 3: the market because it's closer, like everything's like it's forty
Speaker 3: five minutes to an hour. Orlando is like, I'm out,
Speaker 3: I'm getting out the car. He She goes to him,
Speaker 3: where's your outfit? We had matching outphits. We search for
Speaker 3: your outfit for an hour. Alta goes, haha, I'm leaving.
Speaker 3: So I put Orlando and Luna on a ski lesson.
Speaker 3: I'm on the mountain because I'm gonna milk the fuck
Speaker 3: out of this eight hours. Anyway, we come back to
Speaker 3: the bottom of the hill, the skiing has concluded, and
Speaker 3: Orlando with his fucking Aquarius mouth, looks at the guy
Speaker 3: after we go eat and goes, ha, she made you change,
Speaker 3: didn't she. He's wearing, he's laced down in t in
Speaker 3: pink full winter soup, full for full winter soup. Mash
Speaker 3: it with this bitch, and he goes, you went back
Speaker 3: to the house and change. The house was forty five
Speaker 3: minutes away.
Speaker 2: He was like, I didn't. She didn't make me. I
Speaker 2: wanted to.
Speaker 3: And then he's like and then so we're like, Orlando
Speaker 3: is so obnoxious. She made you change. If you don't
Speaker 3: know Orlando, you're gonna know he's gonna be obnoxious. If
Speaker 3: you can't handle that type of like criticism, you're not
Speaker 3: gonna like him at all. So then we're finishing our meal,
Speaker 3: we're about to go in, and I was like, let's go.
Speaker 3: I'm wet, I gotta take a shower, and this nigga
Speaker 3: goes I didn't, Yeah, meet too. I got a shower,
Speaker 3: and Orlando goes, so you went all the way back
Speaker 3: to the house and you don't wash your ass and
Speaker 3: continues to laugh like this hysterically in this nigga's face.
Speaker 3: I thought it was funny. I thought this is your
Speaker 3: valid points and I thought we were joking around. Keep
Speaker 3: in mind this nigga took the electric car to the
Speaker 3: house and back that we just charged. Now instead somebody,
Speaker 3: don't use this as an opportunity. We get back to
Speaker 3: the house and we say we're gonna go to the
Speaker 3: car for tomorrow's departure because we have to leave at
Speaker 3: ten am. Me goes park the car, plug it in,
Speaker 3: we go, get some drinks. We come back like we'd
Speaker 3: The part that really killed me is this nigga never apologized,
Speaker 3: He never said my bad, I fucked up.
Speaker 5: He's just fucking creepy, crawling around the back of her
Speaker 5: at like her little fucking puppy, and this type of
Speaker 5: person Like I really love this person, and I don't
Speaker 5: think she's a bad person, but I think this is
Speaker 5: the type of relationship she's thriving. And she went someone's
Speaker 5: gonna kiss her ass. And this nigga, I don't even
Speaker 5: know if he has a personality outside of her. And
Speaker 5: so all this to say, in friendship.
Speaker 3: Dynamics, be loving, but also have like discriminative awareness, and
Speaker 3: it's not about like she doesn't drink or any of
Speaker 3: those things, and that's not even that's not even the
Speaker 3: basis of our friendship. And that was fine, but like
Speaker 3: there was a personality thing that was like very much,
Speaker 3: I don't know, there was a dynamic that I didn't
Speaker 3: feel comfortable with.
Speaker 2: One time I slept at her house.
Speaker 3: And we went on we did a class together and
Speaker 3: her boyfriend had woke up at four in the morning
Speaker 3: to repaint a wall her blue and it was the
Speaker 3: wrong shade of blue. And she was like, he's gonna
Speaker 3: have to change that, and I was like, what do
Speaker 3: you mean. She's like, I was like, are you sure.
Speaker 3: It's like it's not good enough. She's like, it's not
Speaker 3: the right blue. He woke up at four in the
Speaker 3: morning to paint the wall blue and then she says,
Speaker 3: it's not the right blue. You know what he did?
Speaker 3: He repainted the next morning a different blue. I said, oh, bitch,
Speaker 3: I'm uncomfortable. Is he your slave? Like the link twice?
Speaker 3: Are you okay?
Speaker 2: Nigga?
Speaker 3: He was like it was weird. So anyway, we're driving
Speaker 3: back down after all of this, and it just got weird.
Speaker 3: And I was just like I was. I was so
Speaker 3: annoyed by the dynamic. I had gotten over it, but like,
Speaker 3: the more I peeped the dynamic in a day to
Speaker 3: day basis, even if it was two to three days,
Speaker 3: I was like, this is crazy that he would disrespect
Speaker 3: us so much not to even acknowledge his wrongdoing. It
Speaker 3: was just a weird ass dynamic. And when I did
Speaker 3: finally speak to her, she was like, the only thing
Speaker 3: she remembered is that Orlando laughed at him, laughed at him,
Speaker 3: And what she said was he said you're a little bitch.
Speaker 3: And I know he didn't say that because the kids
Speaker 3: were right there, We're at pizza. And I was like, oh,
Speaker 3: that's what you heard, and that's probably was underlying in
Speaker 3: the sentence.
Speaker 2: I can't even imagine Orlando was saying he's a little bitch.
Speaker 2: He would have never said that, but the laughter and
Speaker 2: the like you with that probably was what you went
Speaker 2: and changed. You heard the laughter. The point is you
Speaker 2: know your man's a little bitch. Oh yeah, this is unfortunate.
Speaker 3: Tale. This is when I was texting Erica about the
Speaker 3: day to day of this trip, she was like, you're
Speaker 3: fuck lying.
Speaker 2: I was like, I'm not fucking lying. I'm not lying.
Speaker 3: It's crazy, and like, towards the end of the trip,
Speaker 3: it just got increasingly weirder, Like it just got increasingly weirder.
Speaker 3: She made that segment, and I was like, so then Orlando, Orlando,
Speaker 3: she had been filming here at at our studio. Orlando
Speaker 3: had been doing some work for her, and Orlando kept
Speaker 3: telling me she's not paying my invoice. She's not paying
Speaker 3: my invoice, And I was like, are you sure? He's like,
Speaker 3: look at these text messages. The text messages were like
Speaker 3: HR style text messages. Things were underlined, things were high.
Speaker 3: I was even who could underline? And text messages like
Speaker 3: before I, uh, fulfill the payment, you need to do X,
Speaker 3: Y and Z. And I was like, why is she
Speaker 3: talking to you like we're not friends? Keep in mind,
Speaker 3: the invoice is for five hundred dollars, not five thousand,
Speaker 3: not fifty thousand, five hundred dollars. So finally, Orlando was
Speaker 3: getting super annoyed, and finally, and I wasn't trying to
Speaker 3: get involved. So I finally fucking say let me. She
Speaker 3: calls me, and I said, let me just fucking hear
Speaker 3: this call. I said, hey, girl, did you did Orlando
Speaker 3: fulfill all of his duties for this month of January?
Speaker 3: She's like yeah, I said, well, why haven't you fulfilled
Speaker 3: this invoice? Oh? I intend to. I just going to
Speaker 3: some changes, and yeah, I just he started the He
Speaker 3: started it, so I figured he should wrap it out
Speaker 3: the same way. I said, But that has nothing to
Speaker 3: do with this this invoice. Yeah, but I thought, and
Speaker 3: I was like, yeah, this is weird. Even as a
Speaker 3: business woman, even if you're not my friend, even if
Speaker 3: I'm not going to continue to work with you, I
Speaker 3: will fulfill an invoice because what you're not gonna do
Speaker 3: is go around and tell people the good Moms didn't
Speaker 3: pay you, especially for five hundred fucking dollars. Baby. Till
Speaker 3: this fucking day, this bitch has not paid this invoice.
Speaker 2: She hasn't paid, never paid. She never paid me never,
Speaker 2: are you kidding?
Speaker 3: I ran into her at the gym, like I haven't
Speaker 3: set aside. Okay girl, Okay.
Speaker 2: I didn't know. I thought that I thought she paid it.
Speaker 3: This is someone who is always talking about money, always
Speaker 3: talking about her sales, always talking about her business. And
Speaker 3: that was another thing I started to realize there was
Speaker 3: a disconnect. Weird it's it's it's Saturday at nine pm. Oh, oh,
Speaker 3: why are we talking about your sales team? I don't.
Speaker 3: I started to get worried, like, let me write these
Speaker 3: notes down because I don't know how to do sales. Wait,
Speaker 3: would you say what?
Speaker 2: Would you use what?
Speaker 3: And then I was like, I'm tired of taking notes
Speaker 3: in our conversations. Then she'd be like, I feel like
Speaker 3: you're always asking about business advice, bitch, that's all you
Speaker 3: talk about. Anyway, I'll just talk about friendship. This was
Speaker 3: the most frustrating story I've I've never experienced anything like this.
Speaker 3: I that was in the end of that communication, and
Speaker 3: I felt bad about it, and I and I but
Speaker 3: I had to keep going and I had to keep
Speaker 3: going around to figure out what the fuck why wouldn't
Speaker 3: this bitch pay my man?
Speaker 2: And it was just like.
Speaker 3: Control and like power and like weird bitch shit. And
Speaker 3: I asked her, I was like, is it because he
Speaker 3: made this comment? Is that what is like your personalness?
Speaker 3: She's like, no, that's a lie. It's a fucking lie, bitch,
Speaker 3: because why haven't you paid it? So all that to
Speaker 3: say is maybe go on trips with new friends early,
Speaker 3: because this is a second friend in the band of
Speaker 3: like twelve months last year that I cut off after
Speaker 3: a trip, and I felt I was feeling bad because
Speaker 3: Erica and Orlando are always like, you're too friendly, like everybody,
Speaker 3: and I'm like, I do, but most people are good.
Speaker 3: These were two very bad examples, and I mean it
Speaker 3: was a good example because I needed to learn to
Speaker 3: have more discernment. And also if the chem like whatever,
Speaker 3: it was fine. But sometimes people are not supposed to
Speaker 3: be your fucking close friends. If the nigga seems like
Speaker 3: he may be her slave, maybe it's not a comfortable
Speaker 3: situation to be in. You know. It was weird and
Speaker 3: like at the end of it, he didn't even have
Speaker 3: a balls enough to say I fucked up and put
Speaker 3: diesel on a regular twelve fucking seater van. I fucked up, sorry, guys,
Speaker 3: And she didn't even have the nerve to be like, hey, nigga,
Speaker 3: apologize or speak up. They can hear you. And it like,
Speaker 3: also the payment thing after you've drug me on this
Speaker 3: fucking forty five hour fucking adventure for no goddamn reason.
Speaker 3: It was the oddest twelve month relationship I was in,
Speaker 3: and it's unfortunate that it ended that way because I
Speaker 3: felt like it was. It just didn't have to end
Speaker 3: over such ridiculous five hundred dollars circumstances. And I would
Speaker 3: have even been forgiving of that situation because it was
Speaker 3: a mistake. But it was just the lack of accountability,
Speaker 3: the lack of communication and like the weird shit after
Speaker 3: and you know, it's just like friendship, I realized, and
Speaker 3: I had I had to sit with this too, is
Speaker 3: it like because I think with relationships and with friendships
Speaker 3: were sometimes easy to like say fuck it, this was
Speaker 3: not unexcusable because he involved my man involved money and like,
Speaker 3: there's no reason for you not to pay it. But
Speaker 3: I had a strong lesson last year that Erica and
Speaker 3: Orlando have been telling me for a long time that
Speaker 3: everybody's not my friend blah blah blah, And it's true,
Speaker 3: and I'm not going to be less friendly and be
Speaker 3: less open, but I do realize that maybe take it slow,
Speaker 3: let me take it like easy, or maybe I.
Speaker 2: Don't know, if I don't even know, if I condone
Speaker 2: would support going on trips early with friends. I just
Speaker 2: think that because no, you're not about to ruin my trips. Ever,
Speaker 2: I just feel like maybe it's I mean, I could
Speaker 2: from an outsider looking in for this particular dynamic. Her
Speaker 2: personality doesn't align with yours. It doesn't. I know that
Speaker 2: her and Orlando shared the same sign, but they don't
Speaker 2: say there's different. There's different principles going around here. There's
Speaker 2: a lot less flexibility, there's a lot more like like yeah, hypervigilance.
Speaker 2: Like there's there's other things going on. So I I
Speaker 2: kind of knew that your flows and your like go
Speaker 2: with the flow, and like, no, wasn't going to align
Speaker 2: with her dictatorship.
Speaker 3: It's a dictatorship over there, bitch. No, it's a fucking dictatorship.
Speaker 2: And you know, I want to say, like I appreciate
Speaker 2: her for who she is and not me too. She's
Speaker 2: she's amazing, she's amazing. She's successful because she's good at
Speaker 2: what she does.
Speaker 3: I just, yeah, it.
Speaker 2: Just gotta know who you can travel with, You gotta
Speaker 2: know who you can spend. You know, you could have
Speaker 2: just maybe kept it at Thanksgiving dinners and even that had.
Speaker 3: Its own instead of well, I'm just saying, but I guess,
Speaker 3: go with your gut, you know, go with your gut.
Speaker 3: And like I realize I'm not in deep need. I
Speaker 3: have a lot of new friends. I have a lot
Speaker 3: of really great friendships, have a lot of best friends
Speaker 3: all over the country, all over the world. Like it's
Speaker 3: not just because someone says, hey, I really want to
Speaker 3: work on friendships this year, Like.
Speaker 2: Maybe, actually doesn't mean you have to sign be the
Speaker 2: first one on the sign.
Speaker 3: And also because if you haven't had that many friendships,
Speaker 3: maybe there's a reason why. And I maintain friendships pretty
Speaker 3: easefully if it's right and if it's meant to be,
Speaker 3: and so I just yeah, that's so all this to say.
Speaker 3: I wanted to talk about friendship. It's our eight year anniversary.
Speaker 3: I know that it's not a monolith. I know that
Speaker 3: it's sometimes you know, I think that hypothetically we'd like
Speaker 3: to think that all friends are easeful, all friendships are easeful,
Speaker 3: But the truth is it's still a relationship. And like
Speaker 3: even an Erica and Irish relationship, there have been ups
Speaker 3: and downs, there have been you know, ebbs and flows,
Speaker 3: and our friendship obviously has a lot more on the
Speaker 3: line because we share a bank account, we have investments together,
Speaker 3: We've invested time into our business, so there's a lot
Speaker 3: of things that are weave together, that are delicate and
Speaker 3: not to mention and not this is really gets in
Speaker 3: the way. We didn't start as friends. We were just
Speaker 3: two bitches like okay.
Speaker 2: And then this didn't start as a business.
Speaker 3: It started as a hobby or something fun to do,
Speaker 3: and that we realize it as a business. So I
Speaker 3: just I want to give this moment to just like
Speaker 3: discuss adult friendships.
Speaker 2: They're challenging.
Speaker 3: Have you had any experience in the.
Speaker 2: World, Well, I think yeah. I mean early on we
Speaker 2: talked about in the podcast I had I shared a
Speaker 2: friend dynamic of mine. This was an old friend that
Speaker 2: I had that I realized it was time to let
Speaker 2: this person go. And I think it was like what
Speaker 2: was no new I don't know what the episode was
Speaker 2: called that we did about my other cancer best friend
Speaker 2: that I had that I released right before I actually
Speaker 2: met you, And.
Speaker 3: You're replacing the cancers.
Speaker 2: And I think that like a I know, I know
Speaker 2: that making adult friends can feel challenging because of just
Speaker 2: the women that come and come to our retreats who
Speaker 2: are seeking new friends, women that we reach out to
Speaker 2: us all the time saying they can't find their tribe.
Speaker 2: Like I realized how challenging that can be. And I
Speaker 2: also realized how traumatizing it can be when you do
Speaker 2: step out and you do have you do think you
Speaker 2: met a friend and you get burned like this.
Speaker 3: I felt like it was almost like taking my kindness
Speaker 3: for a weekend.
Speaker 2: But thankfully you will have proof of positive female friendships.
Speaker 2: But say you didn't and that happened, like it's going
Speaker 2: to like revalidate your position about why you don't trust bitches,
Speaker 2: why you don't have friends. And this is how that
Speaker 2: narrative starts with women. It's like they don't have good discernment,
Speaker 2: no offense, and you do have good discernment, but that
Speaker 2: in particularly, I think that you are a very loving
Speaker 2: and open person and so you're willing to overlook or
Speaker 2: accept maybe is the word people for their differences in
Speaker 2: regards to how you operate right, And because you're because
Speaker 2: you can so easily flow, because you can flow with
Speaker 2: people until you can't because you're still a cancer still.
Speaker 3: And that's the thing. My switch off is strong, Like
Speaker 3: I can be like La and the next bitch it
Speaker 3: will be a whole different bitch and everyone's like, oh God,
Speaker 3: who are you? Oh no, I'm like no, bitch, I
Speaker 3: gave you a lot of opportunities to show the fuck
Speaker 3: out or like this is crazy.
Speaker 2: I think in this in this part of my life
Speaker 2: and making new friends because I have, like I have
Speaker 2: acquaintances that I'm like watering right now. And I realized
Speaker 2: when I was younger, I hash myself to friendships a
Speaker 2: lot faster, whereas now it's like more of a slower
Speaker 2: burn probably because my life is moving faster, probably because
Speaker 2: I have a great group of friends already and so
Speaker 2: it's not necessarily a need, but there is like a
Speaker 2: want to like have new conversations and meet new people
Speaker 2: and understand their perspective. And as I'm entering to a
Speaker 2: later part of my life or mid part of my life,
Speaker 2: mid part of my life where like you know, like
Speaker 2: our kids are growing up, you know, people are getting married,
Speaker 2: like wanting to have those type of people around you
Speaker 2: aside from the ones that you already have. So I
Speaker 2: get it. But I think that like I'm a slow
Speaker 2: burner right now in my friendships, and I realize other
Speaker 2: it feels like other women are too, Like at least
Speaker 2: the women that I'm interacting with. It's not like, okay,
Speaker 2: we like when we met like we were like, and
Speaker 2: now we're together every single day. When I met Sebastian, no, no, no,
Speaker 2: it was still some slower at first. But when we
Speaker 2: decided yeah, yeah, when we decided we had something in
Speaker 2: alignment pretty quick.
Speaker 3: Well, like we're gonna do a podcasts every week. It
Speaker 3: has to be every week, because that's what so and
Speaker 3: so said.
Speaker 2: But I really like, I was looking at the stats
Speaker 2: around friendship and it was like forty percent of adults
Speaker 2: don't have a best friend.
Speaker 3: Really, yeah, forty percent is pretty high. Yeah, I would
Speaker 3: have expected that, and I think best friends are necessary
Speaker 3: and they're also this is a thing with friendship, it
Speaker 3: is a it's a mirror, just like any relationship. I
Speaker 3: think people underestimate that relationships we as a human race
Speaker 3: are in community because that is a part of our
Speaker 3: nature because that is how we evolve, that is how
Speaker 3: we grow, that is how we gain empathy and I
Speaker 3: and if you know of like Harlow's Pyramid of needs
Speaker 3: for a human, it's like community people is what like
Speaker 3: obviously there's safety, food, water, shelter, but right close by
Speaker 3: is like people, other people and like sex. These are
Speaker 3: things that as a humans we need, like air like food,
Speaker 3: like water. We evolve in community and in tribe. And
Speaker 3: that's why there's like all this talk with social media.
Speaker 3: So many people are so deeply on their screens that
Speaker 3: there's no human touch, there's no there's no like people
Speaker 3: are touch starved, and it's it's a big deal because
Speaker 3: we need it, you know what I mean. And like
Speaker 3: even right now, it's interesting because Luna I was telling Erica,
Speaker 3: this has a best friend at school, and it's like,
Speaker 3: oh no, no, this per her, and I'm like, yeah,
Speaker 3: it's so funny. So but I realized I remember having
Speaker 3: a little best friend, and like it made me a
Speaker 3: question have been codependent for our whole life? Because my
Speaker 3: best friend from kindergarten is still one of my best friends.
Speaker 3: And like there was times throughout our lot our lives
Speaker 3: we were deeply codependent, like in elementary school, crying if
Speaker 3: you couldn't have four day sleepovers, you know, And like
Speaker 3: I realized now it's like a form of babysitting for
Speaker 3: the parent, Like of course it gets a bit for
Speaker 3: five days, let meet the fuck alone, but like our
Speaker 3: need to feel safe and to feel loved and like
Speaker 3: and then how you kind of stopped doing that because
Speaker 3: become a vulnerable, like a certain vulnerability at a certain age,
Speaker 3: you know what I mean. So, like, I don't know,
Speaker 3: I think it's interesting to explore because even with us,
Speaker 3: you know, like Erican I, like she said, we dove
Speaker 3: in really quickly, really early, because we had this thing
Speaker 3: that we were doing and it was fun and it
Speaker 3: was like new, and I think we both needed a friend.
Speaker 3: We needed like someone to go do shit with, someone
Speaker 3: to go do shit with, go outside, someone who understood
Speaker 3: that we were moms, but we're still going to do
Speaker 3: the whole shit. Like there was a lot of elements
Speaker 3: at play when we our friendship was cemented, but mostly
Speaker 3: it was good moms and it gave us like this
Speaker 3: north star to like work towards and to like do
Speaker 3: something together, and it gave it meaning, and especially when
Speaker 3: people started like writing in, it gave it more meaning
Speaker 3: because it wasn't just us, you know, it was like
Speaker 3: a whole team of people that even if we couldn't see.
Speaker 3: And like, as we've blossomed and evolved, it's become more
Speaker 3: difficult because at first it was just like we're playing,
Speaker 3: we're talking, and it was like, oh, there's money involved.
Speaker 2: Oh, there's business.
Speaker 3: Oh, there's things that have like there's things on the
Speaker 3: line in order to make this thing go, and then
Speaker 3: like you know, the friendship can fall more and more
Speaker 3: on the back burner, and you know, it's been it's
Speaker 3: been challenging sometimes, and it's been I think even more
Speaker 3: challenging because we have so many things on the line.
Speaker 3: We have so many assets. We own land together.
Speaker 2: We own land, we have bank accounts, our our children
Speaker 2: are invested in one another. Like, there's a lot there's
Speaker 2: a lot of things that are that have expanded in
Speaker 2: a way that I don't think that we realized we
Speaker 2: were even actively doing, because when we started this, we
Speaker 2: didn't realize we were like starting a business. And I think, like,
Speaker 2: I've never had a relationship like this. I was I've
Speaker 2: never had someone that I've like I've I've never had
Speaker 2: a relationship that if it was going wrong, I couldn't
Speaker 2: just walk away from right and be like, well, we
Speaker 2: need a break. So I'm not going to talk about
Speaker 2: bitch like that's not of course, it could be an option,
Speaker 2: but I think that like it's not. No, it could
Speaker 2: be we could be like fuck this, fuck you, that's
Speaker 2: we could we could but I think that thankfully, like
Speaker 2: there's there's this there's this tie that's bigger than us
Speaker 2: that keeps us grounded. And early on in our relationship,
Speaker 2: even on this show, even off camera, off this show,
Speaker 2: we prayed over our relationship because I think our entity,
Speaker 2: like as we call it, knew that there would be
Speaker 2: times that weren't so easeful, that weren't we weren't going
Speaker 2: to be aligned, that there might be things that come up,
Speaker 2: and we witnessed it another podcast, Dynamics. We witnessed it
Speaker 2: with you know, the Mandy's and the Wheezies and and
Speaker 2: the other podcasts that didn't make it, you know, and
Speaker 2: we were like, we don't want to be like those bitches,
Speaker 2: will never be like those. And I think, like what
Speaker 2: I I know for me this in this dynamic in
Speaker 2: our relationship. I never realized how like you think about
Speaker 2: like like your relationship with men and how it's affected
Speaker 2: your mental health when it's not good, and like how
Speaker 2: it like make you crazy or make you angry or
Speaker 2: like make you show up differently. And I don't think
Speaker 2: I've ever had that experience with a woman until this relationship. Again,
Speaker 2: where like like our relationships with our lovers sometimes are
Speaker 2: intrinsically tied to like our mental health and how we
Speaker 2: show up. And I never have had a relationship with
Speaker 2: a woman besides maybe my mother where that could be
Speaker 2: tied until this relationship and where I've like where when
Speaker 2: we're not good, I don't feel good, I'm not good.
Speaker 2: In so many I'm sad, I'm depressed. I'm like, I
Speaker 2: feel lost, Like I feel like how much how I
Speaker 2: would feel like in my lover relationship in that way,
Speaker 2: And that's not something that I've was I've been prepared for.
Speaker 2: I was prepared for and have the tools to work
Speaker 2: through in times and even verbalize at times, because there's
Speaker 2: been times where you're like, why are you tell me
Speaker 2: why you're depressed? And I'm like, I don't know, I'm
Speaker 2: just sad, and you're like, but if you can't tell me,
Speaker 2: and I'm like, isn't the depression? Sometimes you don't know
Speaker 2: what to say, you don't have the words to say
Speaker 2: and explain to someone why, Like for someone that has
Speaker 2: battle depression, like that is that's a thing. I realize
Speaker 2: it so much as I talk to people that have
Speaker 2: moved through it, and granted, like my mental health shifts
Speaker 2: of not all I'm not gonna like they're not all
Speaker 2: based in our relationship dynamic, but partly yes, like I
Speaker 2: have noticed how sad I've been when we're not okay.
Speaker 2: I have noticed how like lost I feel when I'm
Speaker 2: like unsure about where we stand and how we're moving
Speaker 2: through hard times together. But I also know that there's
Speaker 2: there's never been a time where walking away was an option,
Speaker 2: you know. And I think that that's the difference between
Speaker 2: like just a regular friendship and that unconditional friend that
Speaker 2: I want more women to experience. And because it is
Speaker 2: rich and there is so much here between us, and
Speaker 2: like I've just it's just been a it's been such
Speaker 2: a But then there's also a relationship that don't deserve that,
Speaker 2: Like your relationship that you just spoke of. Probably you're
Speaker 2: not going to invest this much time. You don't have to.
Speaker 2: But that's the thing is like a lot of women
Speaker 2: don't have to, I think because they don't have business. Yeah,
Speaker 2: so it's easier for you to say, oh fuck it,
Speaker 2: you know, and and sometimes maybe that's what it needed,
Speaker 2: but probably not, you know, probably not. And so this
Speaker 2: I think our friendship has been a reminder or not
Speaker 2: a reminder just like a mirror and a lesson into
Speaker 2: not running because I'm a fucking runner and I'm a
Speaker 2: runner in love. I'm a runner in a lot of
Speaker 2: places in my life. And this relationship and even the
Speaker 2: when I'm in right now has like really shown me
Speaker 2: like that I am capable of staying. I don't necessarily
Speaker 2: have all the tools when I arrive and I decided
Speaker 2: to stay here, but I don't know what to do
Speaker 2: with it, Like yeah, you know, so anyway, I agree,
Speaker 2: and I'm glad you said that because I don't know
Speaker 2: if I necessarily had words to put for that, because
Speaker 2: I guess that's true.
Speaker 3: There's not like generally in a romantic relationship when it
Speaker 3: consumes so much of your your mental health and you're
Speaker 3: just your your mood, your your capacity, like if it
Speaker 3: just your thoughts, your if it, if it just if
Speaker 3: it overcomes. Usually in a relationship it's like, oh my god,
Speaker 3: soll I could think about this guy D he's not
Speaker 3: doing this, he's cheating on me, and then you're like obsessed.
Speaker 3: Then that's when that comes up. But I have experienced
Speaker 3: that in this relationship, and I'm like, am I nuts?
Speaker 3: Like I am like going to sleep at night and
Speaker 3: I'm like going through all these scenarios and like, literally
Speaker 3: my eyes are closed, but I'm like and I'm like, bitch,
Speaker 3: you gotta like give let this breathe. But it's it
Speaker 3: I realize. And I realized this one time and Costa Rica.
Speaker 3: We were just having a day I think it was
Speaker 3: our day off or maybe before retreat or after retreat,
Speaker 3: and you were like, let's not talk about let's not
Speaker 3: talk about business for the rest of the day, and
Speaker 3: like for a moment, I was like, what do you, like,
Speaker 3: what are you talking about? And like it had to
Speaker 3: sit with that and it really made me sad because
Speaker 3: I was like, I have spent like, however many years
Speaker 3: literally thinking talking about this thing, and granted I have
Speaker 3: you you want to talk about it too. It's like
Speaker 3: when you have a baby with someone and you're like,
Speaker 3: oh my god, first walk, oh my god, they just
Speaker 3: said their first words, Oh my god, look at that
Speaker 3: thing way go, oh my god, it's doing.
Speaker 2: Stuff and you were doing that for three years and
Speaker 2: then you're like and then you're like, we talk about
Speaker 2: who are you?
Speaker 3: Oh you?
Speaker 2: Oh yeah.
Speaker 3: So when you're like, let's not talk about that, I
Speaker 3: was like, oh my god, Like, have I tended to
Speaker 3: myself the same way I've thought like the capacity, like
Speaker 3: my brain like data has been focused on this. Have
Speaker 3: I taught about Luna as much as I've thought about
Speaker 3: Good Moms? Have I thought about these other things? My family?
Speaker 3: Like my mother really like obviously we've talked about all
Speaker 3: those things within Good Moms, But so much of my
Speaker 3: life has been dedicated whether I realized it or not,
Speaker 3: until that moment to thinking about the next steps of
Speaker 3: this thing that we built and excited about it. And
Speaker 3: it's a beautiful thing. But then it's like, oh shit, bitch,
Speaker 3: Like have you focused on the other things in your
Speaker 3: life and watered those things too? And so when our
Speaker 3: relationship isn't good, I'm.
Speaker 2: Like, what the fuck?
Speaker 3: And it takes up equally as much space, but not
Speaker 3: in a way that's like positive, so I can notice
Speaker 3: it more. And it's true, like if it wasn't all
Speaker 3: these things tied into it, if it wasn't our tribe,
Speaker 3: if it wasn't us knowing how much impact and how
Speaker 3: important the work that we do is and how it's
Speaker 3: changing the narrative for moms and single moms, I'd probably
Speaker 3: be like I'm just not gonna.
Speaker 2: Call her no. And it is the tribe because there
Speaker 2: have been days where I know we did not fuck
Speaker 2: with each other at all, and then someone dms us
Speaker 2: and says, don't stop, don't stop, and I'm like, this
Speaker 2: episode has no idea how much I needed to hear
Speaker 2: that right.
Speaker 3: Now, literally every time, And we'll send it to each.
Speaker 2: Other, okay, basically.
Speaker 3: Saying yeah, basically I know you're thinking about what I'm
Speaker 3: thinking about, because fuck you. But also, look, someone we
Speaker 3: don't know wrote this.
Speaker 2: It means a lot, so like, thank you guys for
Speaker 2: affirming us too, because like you guys are such a
Speaker 2: major part of the watering of a relationship that's real,
Speaker 2: that isn't perfect all the time, that needs to be
Speaker 2: reminded and needs to be like reignited at times, and
Speaker 2: you know, like I was, as I was researching these
Speaker 2: stats of like friendships, it was like, how how much
Speaker 2: like our personal relationships are the number one influence of
Speaker 2: our health is the number one influence of our like
Speaker 2: mental health, our even our physical health. And then how
Speaker 2: women lacking friends is as dangerous as smoking and obesity.
Speaker 2: Lacking female friends as it's dangerous as smoking and obesity,
Speaker 2: and that women with strong friendships have lower risk of
Speaker 2: heart disease, reduced stress hormones, and can live longer than
Speaker 2: those who lack close friends. And I'm thinking about like
Speaker 2: in the moments where our friendship has not felt good,
Speaker 2: like I literally feel like I'm dying a little bit,
Speaker 2: And i was like, why do I feel this way?
Speaker 2: And I'm like, what the fuck? And I'm like, because
Speaker 2: we've literally called ourselves platonic wives for eight years. That's
Speaker 2: not like it's it's a word, but it's like it's
Speaker 2: also a commitment to one another, whether or not we
Speaker 2: those words are powerful and they they do like and
Speaker 2: that and not because because they're not just words, because
Speaker 2: that's is who I'm gonna cry, because that's is who
Speaker 2: we've been to one another. Like we've literally been that
Speaker 2: to one another, like or like in ways that I
Speaker 2: don't even know if I've experienced with me, I haven't,
Speaker 2: you know, I've I've never shared a banking out with somebody,
Speaker 2: and I've never like shared like the deepest woes of
Speaker 2: my life with someone and like also been in pleasure
Speaker 2: and intimacy with someone and like but also like it's
Speaker 2: just like it's so expansive and like I'm like, wo,
Speaker 2: how could this relationship impact me this much? Like like
Speaker 2: I've I've lost friends and I've had changes in relationships
Speaker 2: and it hasn't felt like this, and I had to
Speaker 2: like I've really I've really been like dissecting that so
Speaker 2: much more, especially because you know, Meila and I are
Speaker 2: in therapy together, and like that's I know, crazy friends
Speaker 2: in therapy, right, but actually not crazy, because like this
Speaker 2: relationship deserves that, this not just this partnership, this relationship
Speaker 2: and our souls meeting one another and like seeing one
Speaker 2: another in that way to deserve to like have something
Speaker 2: someone else be like, hey, okay, this is what she
Speaker 2: means and this is what you mean. You guys are
Speaker 2: actually saying the same thing, or like can you understand
Speaker 2: what you know? And it's like when you are so
Speaker 2: when we're obviously we're emotional water side women, we're passionate
Speaker 2: about what we do, how we show up, we are
Speaker 2: as individuals and what our needs are as individuals, and
Speaker 2: so like as much as that has watered our friendship,
Speaker 2: that can also be like we can be really stubborn
Speaker 2: in that as well, Like no, I said what I
Speaker 2: said and I fucking meant it, you know. And it's
Speaker 2: like I'm thankful that we continue to say yes to
Speaker 2: one another even in really challenging and difficult times. And
Speaker 2: like I'm thankful for our tribe who like is constant,
Speaker 2: like just constant checking in with us and like tell
Speaker 2: and like watering us. And and I'm probably also knowing too,
Speaker 2: you know, like a lot of y'all have like you
Speaker 2: know us, like you know the shifts of our energy.
Speaker 2: You know, when creation is that it's highest, when it's
Speaker 2: like kind of dimmed right like not right now, but
Speaker 2: like just dimmed in general. And so like I've asked,
Speaker 2: I've asked.
Speaker 3: My clothes for my friends who listen, like, do you
Speaker 3: notice like a shift?
Speaker 2: She's like no.
Speaker 3: And then but I've had people message me. I've had
Speaker 3: people write letters. I've had people message me and say
Speaker 3: something seems a little off. I've had people all retreats
Speaker 3: ask me, and I'm like, I can feel it. So
Speaker 3: if you're super tuned in, and you've been tuned in
Speaker 3: for a long time, I know that it's probably evident. Also,
Speaker 3: me and Eric are very good at sitting on this
Speaker 3: couch and everything else going out the window. There are
Speaker 3: a lot of times where we were having very heated,
Speaker 3: sick energy between us that's not always love and butterflies,
Speaker 3: and we sit here and we're like, we can find
Speaker 3: the place to laugh, and then we'll close the door
Speaker 3: and be like bye bye.
Speaker 2: And it's psycho. I mean, it's not psycho, it's it's real.
Speaker 3: But I think, oh, it's real, it's super real, and
Speaker 3: I think it's not too real.
Speaker 2: But the layer of someone being so deeply.
Speaker 3: Enthralled in your life, knowing all your secrets, knowing what
Speaker 3: your triggers are, or knowing what your history is, and
Speaker 3: just knowing so much about each other and being literally
Speaker 3: are the safe place for one another. When that shifts,
Speaker 3: it can equally go on the other side, like that anger,
Speaker 3: that disappointment, that frustration, that whatever, that sadness or whatever
Speaker 3: we interpret as something not in flow or in love.
Speaker 3: It feels super personal, especially because we're sensitive as bitches,
Speaker 3: and you know, and I've I've taken things super personally
Speaker 3: and I know that I have, you know, And.
Speaker 2: It's just it's not easy.
Speaker 3: But I am grateful that we have this to to
Speaker 3: push us and that we know it's important and that
Speaker 3: we do get calls and we do get you know,
Speaker 3: fucking messages and letters.
Speaker 2: And like this is like a level of mirror work
Speaker 2: that is like I can't even explain, Like it's like
Speaker 2: you can't avoid it. We can, we can't avoid it,
Speaker 2: and I don't, and like we're not supposed to. That's
Speaker 2: not what like God Spirit, any of the shit had
Speaker 2: lined up for us. There's like, no, bitch, you're gonna
Speaker 2: have to sit on that couch and face her and
Speaker 2: talk to her. You can't.
Speaker 3: At some point we're gonna and in fact tomorrow in therapy,
Speaker 3: the assignment is that we have to like read all
Speaker 3: of our resentments off and like we've had a relatively
Speaker 3: good week. We hung out yesterday, which we haven't really
Speaker 3: done in a long time. And that's another thing, like
Speaker 3: so much of our hangouts are just business meetings and
Speaker 3: so like when you only water one side of it,
Speaker 3: even though the friendship is what births all this other shit,
Speaker 3: it makes it very difficult to be creative and be
Speaker 3: free flowing in the space that is the business part,
Speaker 3: because the business is the friendship. But you know it's
Speaker 3: not not you.
Speaker 2: Feel that I don't know, I feel like I actually
Speaker 2: feel that's the one thing I'm grateful for From my side,
Speaker 2: I can't this is me speaking.
Speaker 3: I'm just saying the brand was was birthed out of
Speaker 3: our friendship. So when there's no friendship, what the fuck
Speaker 3: is the brand?
Speaker 2: Like that?
Speaker 3: And then begin and I feel like there's guilt too.
Speaker 3: People are like your friendship, your friendship, you know, and
Speaker 3: they're like, fuck, the friendship's not even like join great
Speaker 3: right now, And there's I'm grateful that we got into
Speaker 3: bed in this way because we cannot hide from each other,
Speaker 3: we cannot hide from this work. And I'm grateful that
Speaker 3: the podcast has been always no matter how much funny
Speaker 3: and how much sex and how much, it's always been
Speaker 3: a commitment and a promise to evolve and to heal
Speaker 3: and to look at ourselves. You don't have to be
Speaker 3: just like us. But this whole journey was built in
Speaker 3: the in the sense of what are we doing now?
Speaker 3: How can we be better? And it's three thirty three,
Speaker 3: it's changed. But and I look at that, even when
Speaker 3: I'm angry at you, eve, when I'm fucking pissed, even
Speaker 3: when I'm like fuck this bitch, I'm still like, ah,
Speaker 3: I know that there's requires deeper. And the truth is
Speaker 3: we've avoided a lot of probably uncomfortable conversations because for
Speaker 3: so long we didn't have any deep issues, you know,
Speaker 3: we didn't have any deep arguments. And I think also
Speaker 3: because we started not as friends per se, we started
Speaker 3: as business partners. There's a level of delicacy.
Speaker 2: And we didn't start as a business partners.
Speaker 3: We start business, we just start as bid You didn't
Speaker 3: know each other.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, we started as it literally happened all at once.
Speaker 2: It just kept going. At one point we realized we
Speaker 2: had a business. We're like, I guess we're business partners.
Speaker 2: We had already been doing it for like at least.
Speaker 3: A year when we realized that it's a tippy toeing around.
Speaker 2: Well, I think, like it's just like it's I don't
Speaker 2: want to say it's normal, but it is. I think
Speaker 2: when something happens sometimes you're like, am my tripping, let
Speaker 2: me not, let me shut the fuck up. And then
Speaker 2: you do that enough and then a lot there's the
Speaker 2: little seat of resentment starts to build and you just
Speaker 2: don't share it until now it's a bigger thing. And
Speaker 2: now the person's confused because you haven't said shit or
Speaker 2: now the other side is like it's just there's just
Speaker 2: so many things. And this is what happens in female
Speaker 2: dynamics with women specifically, because I think women we hold on,
Speaker 2: we hold more than men do. Men like they just
Speaker 2: kind of like they just be flowing. They don't even
Speaker 2: really be well. I mean, they don't really have drama.
Speaker 3: No, men are a whole different, but I think that
Speaker 3: they're lacking friendships and try.
Speaker 2: But I actually respect sometimes how men deal with shit.
Speaker 2: They can get They will call you out right there
Speaker 2: and say it, even if it's a joke.
Speaker 3: At least they're saying it.
Speaker 2: Women will just literally not say shit, you know. And
Speaker 2: in the spirit of it being International Women's Month this
Speaker 2: month and our eight year anniversary and you know, our
Speaker 2: commitment to therapy and the things that we're still we're
Speaker 2: trying to get comfortable doing, like saying things in the
Speaker 2: moment and like not taking things personally and and realizing
Speaker 2: that even if there is resentment, even if there's truth
Speaker 2: behind the things that we've said, and you agree and
Speaker 2: I don't agree, like we know at the very core
Speaker 2: of what what is happening that we have love for
Speaker 2: one another and it's not like, oh, I love you.
Speaker 2: I have you know, like there's like a deepness in
Speaker 2: the love that we have.
Speaker 3: We've seen each other through a lot of major life events, good,
Speaker 3: bad and different.
Speaker 2: And that is there. There's so much more value there
Speaker 2: than there is with all the whatever else. There is
Speaker 2: like the richness and the foundation that is there, like
Speaker 2: the other things can they can be Because at the
Speaker 2: end of the day, bitch, if anything were to ever
Speaker 2: happen to you, I would fucking I would die. I'm
Speaker 2: thinking about it.
Speaker 3: I couldn't.
Speaker 2: I couldn't really die, Like I would be like, oh
Speaker 2: my God, Like I just there's nothing in this motherfucking
Speaker 2: world that like would be is important to me.
Speaker 3: No, it's not. And there it's nothing. Even even with
Speaker 3: all the water under the bridge or whatever place we're
Speaker 3: in at this moment or have been in the last
Speaker 3: year two years, there's nothing that's greater than the love
Speaker 3: that I have for you. There's nothing that you've done
Speaker 3: that I can't forgive. There's nothing that there's nothing that
Speaker 3: weighs heavier than what we've created, what we've built, the
Speaker 3: experiences we've had together. I mean, like just us in general,
Speaker 3: just the joy that we've experienced, just the adventures, just
Speaker 3: the stories we've been able to tell, the boldness that
Speaker 3: we've given each other permission to experience, like it is.
Speaker 3: I think this shit weighs so heavily on me because
Speaker 3: this is so important to me. It really has like
Speaker 3: changed my life. You've changed my life, and this friendship
Speaker 3: has birth something like in me, Like I've shifted because
Speaker 3: of it, and my life has shifted because of it.
Speaker 3: And like how close we've been and literally a safe
Speaker 3: haven in so many and the most difficult parts of
Speaker 3: our lives, you know, like it has been something true
Speaker 3: and real that I can always go to you and say, Yo,
Speaker 3: this is happening or whatever the fuck, and there's always
Speaker 3: a place that we can land. Is so much more
Speaker 3: valuable than any of this other shit that we're dealing with,
Speaker 3: or that we are caddy or whatever the holding resentment
Speaker 3: over I just at the end of the day, I'm like,
Speaker 3: I know we're going to come out of this, and
Speaker 3: I hope that and I know that we're working on
Speaker 3: skills that we can come out of it without it
Speaker 3: being we're writing down taking score of what's happening, you know,
Speaker 3: and I just know that's not our story. There's so
Speaker 3: much more for us to do, and and I think
Speaker 3: every time we get to a point where we've ignored
Speaker 3: some issues, it's like the real, the real question is
Speaker 3: are you ready to really let this go? Are you
Speaker 3: gonna let this go right now? And it's always like, no,
Speaker 3: I don't want to. I don't want to. I don't
Speaker 3: want this to be how it ends. That doesn't make
Speaker 3: sense to me. That is not what we foresaw. That's
Speaker 3: not why we prayed over our friendship. That's not why
Speaker 3: we did.
Speaker 2: All this work.
Speaker 3: And like, you know, as we go into this session
Speaker 3: tomorrow with all these things, and like I was even thinking,
Speaker 3: like this is even necessary? Are we like fucking up?
Speaker 2: Like are we gonna like be mad again?
Speaker 3: It's gonna recognize these things.
Speaker 2: But then I'm always afraid, like I'm like, well, maybe
Speaker 2: we also need to let it go. So everything's like
Speaker 2: I already said that already, So there's no harbor that
Speaker 2: I don't And I realized I realized a part of it,
Speaker 2: a part of I think everyone needs to realize just
Speaker 2: because someone says something does not mean it's true. Sometimes
Speaker 2: you say things they're not true, but sometimes you just
Speaker 2: need to say the thing, you know, and like that
Speaker 2: could I don't know.
Speaker 3: We'll report back next week, but I do want if
Speaker 3: you're listening, if you have a best friend and like,
Speaker 3: granted people grow apart, and granted people change, and granted life,
Speaker 3: and you know, Bell Hooks writes about this is like
Speaker 3: and this is we experienced this in the beginning. When
Speaker 3: you're going through the same thing as somebody, there is
Speaker 3: a level of trust and understanding. And I don't know
Speaker 3: if it's trauma bonding that happened. For sure, we trauma bonded.
Speaker 2: We are the result. We are the beautiful result of
Speaker 2: a trauma bond life.
Speaker 3: It can be positive codependency, codependency and trauma bonding. And
Speaker 3: that's looked great in some chapters of our life. And
Speaker 3: then sometimes this is a problem. It's not sustainable. It's
Speaker 3: not sustainable. It's not I mean, I guess I always said, like, well,
Speaker 3: what if we get married, Like what's going to happen
Speaker 3: with good moms? I choicing It's like, well, we'll tell
Speaker 3: those stories. And I was like this sounds fun.
Speaker 2: People wrote it. We're like, you guys are getting boring.
Speaker 2: I've been going to Costa Rican bitches.
Speaker 3: I don't know, just go back to twenty eighteen. You
Speaker 3: have a lot, you have like six years of horrishness,
Speaker 3: maybe four, But yeah, this is inevitable and any friendship
Speaker 3: dynamics are going to change. We are two individuals, although
Speaker 3: we've been one conglomerate for quite some time. When the
Speaker 3: like when we realized it was separating, there was a
Speaker 3: lot of fear. I can say for myself, a lot
Speaker 3: of fear, a lot of fear, a lot of worry
Speaker 3: about that means for us, And like just when you've
Speaker 3: put poured so much into something, it's you know, you
Speaker 3: don't want to see it and whatever you're imagined, like
Speaker 3: however it is, you don't want to see it change
Speaker 3: or dwindle. But things change.
Speaker 2: So that's literally why we're tormented. It's literally the source
Speaker 2: of ninety nine percent of our pain is that we can't.
Speaker 2: We have a hard time with that.
Speaker 3: And I don't want to choose suffering. I want to
Speaker 3: choose like empathy. And I realized that, like, am I
Speaker 3: not being empathetic? Am I not being? And then I
Speaker 3: am pathetic and I don't feel like it's like recognized,
Speaker 3: and I'm like, fuck being empathetic.
Speaker 2: Fuck that I'm a cold I'm cold fuck all that.
Speaker 3: So, you know, and granted, thankfully we are people who
Speaker 3: look at ourselves, you know, and hopefully we can always
Speaker 3: have the ability to do that, and you know, just
Speaker 3: all the things. If you have friends and loved ones
Speaker 3: that you care about, I mean, it's always worth fighting for,
Speaker 3: it's always worth working for it, especially if you think
Speaker 3: those people are smart, emotionally intelligent and also on the
Speaker 3: same thing as you. And that's one thing we can't
Speaker 3: ever say we're not both on the same trajectory as
Speaker 3: far as evolving, healing, being self aware and being aware
Speaker 3: in general. And I think if you have those things
Speaker 3: in common, then you'll all be willing to take accountability
Speaker 3: and also speak your mind. And also, just what I've
Speaker 3: had to tell myself a lot in this process is
Speaker 3: that telling the truth and being honest is it feels scary,
Speaker 3: but it's ultimately going to bring more love and more closeness.
Speaker 3: So if you can get over the discomfort of saying
Speaker 3: the thing, or you can receive it without being defensive,
Speaker 3: then there's something even greater on the other side. And
Speaker 3: sometimes that's difficult. And I was thinking about that with Orlando.
Speaker 3: He was getting on my nerves last night, and I
Speaker 3: was like, oh my god, because in my mind, the
Speaker 3: first thing I say when someone's getting on my nerve
Speaker 3: is I'm over this. Those are the exact words I
Speaker 3: say in my mind.
Speaker 2: I'm over this.
Speaker 3: I'm over that person. I'm over this. And then I
Speaker 3: was like, you're not over it, You're in it.
Speaker 2: Actually, which actually I was like the very bottom.
Speaker 3: I was like, you're actually up over it. I was
Speaker 3: like a campy over it because I'm in it. And
Speaker 3: I signed a certificate or whatever the fuck this means,
Speaker 3: and now I'm in it. And I was like thinking
Speaker 3: about you, and I'm like, fuck, it's the same thing.
Speaker 3: I'm in it. Like there's no getting over it. It's
Speaker 3: always going to exist, even if we said fuck all
Speaker 3: this year. Right now, good Moms is an entity. She exists.
Speaker 3: She's going to come up. So it's just like we
Speaker 3: have a baby together, so you know, and she's eight.
Speaker 3: It's a big ass kid. That's not a baby, that's
Speaker 3: not even a toddler. That's a kid.
Speaker 2: She's heading into preteen. Maybe that's why she's such a bitch.
Speaker 3: It's hormonales, I think fits. She doesn't like those clothes.
Speaker 3: You're too fast. Oh my goodness, O god.
Speaker 2: Well, cheers to our friendship and cheers to growth, and
Speaker 2: cheers to acknowledging the hard things and being in it
Speaker 2: for the long run, and also honoring you know that
Speaker 2: things do change, and things people change, and we have
Speaker 2: to learn how to love people differently at times, like
Speaker 2: sometimes the love that you're giving or the love that
Speaker 2: I'm giving you a love that you're giving me. For
Speaker 2: the last however, many has to shift, just like you
Speaker 2: will shift with your child and adjust to where they're
Speaker 2: at in their growth journey and in their development and
Speaker 2: in their story. So I hope that if you're listening
Speaker 2: to this, and if you have a friendship that might
Speaker 2: be a little bit rocky right now, you can just
Speaker 2: take a step back and just give it a breather.
Speaker 2: But also just fu what is the root and think
Speaker 2: about that, like, what is the root of the friendship?
Speaker 2: Is that sustainable enough for you to say, Okay, well,
Speaker 2: maybe I can thug this out a little bit longer.
Speaker 2: Maybe we deserve another conversation. Maybe we need to write
Speaker 2: some things down and then have a conversation, like not
Speaker 2: just wing it. You know, where bitches are just like, well,
Speaker 2: I feel like this what I feel like, because we
Speaker 2: can feel all motherfucking day, you know, and it's just
Speaker 2: like having an organized conversation with the person that you
Speaker 2: care for and that you love for and maybe even
Speaker 2: having a mediator. I think that normalizing support in the
Speaker 2: communication with not just your love space, but like your
Speaker 2: friendship space is important because sometimes it's like it does
Speaker 2: take a friend, like maybe maybe a friend to be like, hey, guys,
Speaker 2: like what's going on, Let's figure this out.
Speaker 3: That's good through this, you know, because I'm pretty sure
Speaker 3: all of our friends are tired of us.
Speaker 2: Probably, and having a mediator is like sometimes what has
Speaker 2: to happen. So that's my spiel on friendship and healing.
Speaker 3: And also we're not giving a rule book in relationships communication,
Speaker 3: Like we have language, but we don't know how to
Speaker 3: use it. And I think I do think it's important
Speaker 3: to like find creed and like communication and ways in
Speaker 3: which communication is makes sense because we could be talking
Speaker 3: Chinese and fucking Spanish to each other all day, and
Speaker 3: if we're not speaking the same language and we're not
Speaker 3: here to understand, it doesn't fucking matter what we're saying.
Speaker 2: And especially if you're going into it too, because I
Speaker 2: was happy to think. Like before when we went to
Speaker 2: therapy last time, I was like I was feeling like
Speaker 2: defensive and or like, and I was like, what is
Speaker 2: my what do I want to come out of this?
Speaker 2: Do I want to be right? Do I want to
Speaker 2: be a when? Do I want my point to be
Speaker 2: across and try to finally say yeah, you're right Erica yeah?
Speaker 2: Or like? And if I don't get that, is it over?
Speaker 1: Like?
Speaker 2: You know, like what is it that I fucking want
Speaker 2: from this? And it's like I want resolve, I want peace,
Speaker 2: I want flow, I want I want a friendship to persevere.
Speaker 2: I don't like, can it go back to exactly how
Speaker 2: it was? No, because we've evolved. It's like it's it's
Speaker 2: going to continue, whether we're in a good place all
Speaker 2: the time or whether we're struggling. No matter what.
Speaker 3: Things evolved, time is timing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And so I just had to like think about that.
Speaker 2: And I don't know if I I mean, I think
Speaker 2: like I don't know if I was successful the whole thing.
Speaker 2: I wasn't. But I feel like hopefully maybe tomorrow we
Speaker 2: both can agree to go into therapy with that mindset
Speaker 2: because we are going to be sharing things that might
Speaker 2: are going to probably trigger one another, and it's like,
Speaker 2: what do we ultimately want? Why are we here? Yeah,
Speaker 2: to sort this out?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean yeah, absolutely A lot of times someone's
Speaker 3: not going to be like I agree with you one
Speaker 3: hundred percent. Yeah, you know, and I was gonna tell
Speaker 3: you this too, Like there's I always say this Kenya,
Speaker 3: her fucking communication, her up level communication.
Speaker 2: And saying everything you need to say and getting the animal.
Speaker 3: Out, getting the animal out, but also recognizing, like the soothing,
Speaker 3: the soothing is that you may not even mean the
Speaker 3: shit that I what I need to hear. You may
Speaker 3: I need to you may not mean, but who cares?
Speaker 3: Just say it and same I'm sorry for What do
Speaker 3: you need from me? What is going to make you
Speaker 3: feel better? I think people don't go to the end
Speaker 3: and come back. Sometimes I need to say this. And
Speaker 3: maybe it's not you that committed this first thing against me,
Speaker 3: that didn't accept me or didn't or rejected me. Maybe
Speaker 3: this is for my mom or because of my dad.
Speaker 3: But I need you because we are under in understanding,
Speaker 3: and we are in relationship in a way that we
Speaker 3: are evolving, and we know that maybe there's things that
Speaker 3: need to be healed, and I if I can do
Speaker 3: that for you, I'll do that for you, and then
Speaker 3: you'll be Then you'll be shocked to be like, Oh,
Speaker 3: I don't care if she meant it or not. I
Speaker 3: like it, you know what I mean. Like you sometimes
Speaker 3: need to have the animal be released. You need to say,
Speaker 3: this is what I need to be soothed. You need
Speaker 3: to ask for exactly what you want, what is your request?
Speaker 3: Because I think sometimes we're just angry and we're just
Speaker 3: battling feelings and feelings are all over the place. But
Speaker 3: if you can say what is it that I need
Speaker 3: in this moment, and that that person loves you enough
Speaker 3: to give it to you, and it's not on some
Speaker 3: ego or some stubborn shit, it's just like maybe I'm
Speaker 3: not right, I don't know, but this is what I need,
Speaker 3: and just you know, And sometimes when you find out
Speaker 3: what you need, you find out maybe this is not
Speaker 3: even her, Maybe this is the projection of something else.
Speaker 3: Maybe I'm mad at her because she's doing something that
Speaker 3: I haven't been able to do, or that I haven't done,
Speaker 3: whatever the fuck it is. There is a process in
Speaker 3: the communication and it relieves something in you and I
Speaker 3: think that that is something that I was intending on
Speaker 3: like sharing with you tomorrow, and like, I want you
Speaker 3: to know that tomorrow I am going in it. I
Speaker 3: tell myself every time you go to therapy, even though
Speaker 3: it hasn't been a million times, been like five times,
Speaker 3: I'm not going in defensive. I'm gonna be as empathetic
Speaker 3: I want to. I'm here to understand. I want this
Speaker 3: to be better. I want resolve like I because I
Speaker 3: don't want to argue with you. I don't want this
Speaker 3: to be this weird energy between us. I don't think
Speaker 3: that's I don't like it. I don't like not getting
Speaker 3: along with you. I don't I don't like feeling this way.
Speaker 3: I don't like fucking thinking about you four hundred times
Speaker 3: a day because I'm like, what the fuck is going on?
Speaker 3: I feel nuts, I feel obsessed, and I feel like
Speaker 3: I want to find and.
Speaker 2: I know when we do it's easy.
Speaker 3: We've been in fights before. I'm gonna be like, oh okay, fine,
Speaker 3: but it just requires that we do that thing. So
Speaker 3: I want you to know as we go into tomorrow,
Speaker 3: resent speech whatever, it's always love, It's always I'm not
Speaker 3: saying everything I'm saying is right. I'm not saying everything
Speaker 3: I'm saying is you know correct, It's just how I've
Speaker 3: been feeling and like, at the end of the day,
Speaker 3: in all of it, there's love, and of all of it,
Speaker 3: I want understanding. That's it.
Speaker 2: Same love. You happy at your anniversary? Your universary? Mm.
Speaker 2: Life is challenging, okay, nothing like a little tequila. This
Speaker 2: is our fucking good mom's Confessions of a good Mom.
Speaker 2: This is our reality show.
Speaker 3: And then that bitch said.
Speaker 2: So we got drunk and we told her everything.
Speaker 3: Eleven am even this is our way. Okay, this is
Speaker 3: what we came up with yesterday. Do you have affirmation?
Speaker 2: Go to therapy with your friends.
Speaker 3: Okay, go to therapy with your friends, or get the
Speaker 3: most the friend who's the most likely.
Speaker 2: To your friendship. If your friendship requires therapy, go.
Speaker 3: If your friendship is important enough to go, go to therapy.
Speaker 3: And remember, if you don't have any friends, you might
Speaker 3: have its equivalent to smoking or having heart failure.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so you gotter hurry up because you're dying. Basically
Speaker 2: you're dying. Or come to the good vibratree and make
Speaker 2: some new friends. If you need a new tribe, make
Speaker 2: sure you come to the good vibratry. We are going
Speaker 2: to Costa Rica and you'll get all this.
Speaker 3: Do you want to.
Speaker 2: Cry in our arms? Do you want to see us
Speaker 2: crying each other's arms?
Speaker 3: That's happened. Okay, I pulled it upside down, which seems
Speaker 3: more record. Okay, we got the three swords. It's a
Speaker 3: fucking three swords going through a heart. It's really looks
Speaker 3: I don't know a bit intense. The so your swords
Speaker 3: reverse encourages you to pay attention to your inner thoughts
Speaker 3: and self talk. Your words are powerful, especially those you
Speaker 3: repeat to yourself day after day. You may be prone
Speaker 3: to self criticism, limiting beliefs, and negative self talk. You
Speaker 3: may identify with an inner mean girl or boy who
Speaker 3: is constantly telling you why you're not good enough. When
Speaker 3: you hear these negative thoughts come up, ask yourself whether
Speaker 3: you would utter those words to a friend or a
Speaker 3: loved one. And if the answer is hell no, then
Speaker 3: why are you speaking to those words to yourself? Look
Speaker 3: how you can shift your thoughts towards the positive to
Speaker 3: reinforce your confidence. You have what it takes to be
Speaker 3: the person you deserve to be. You may also be hypercented,
Speaker 3: sensitive to others words and need to develop a thick skin.
Speaker 3: Let go of the hurt and these words are caused
Speaker 3: that these words are causing you, It will only hold
Speaker 3: wait TOLEMI let go of the hurt that these words
Speaker 3: are causing you. It would only hold you back and
Speaker 3: do some self reflection. What has triggered your feelings and
Speaker 3: why and how might you address the underlying issue. For example,
Speaker 3: if you're upset by a friend's accusation that you are selfish,
Speaker 3: look within yourself to see where you may be acting selfishly.
Speaker 3: If this behavior is no longer serving you, then let
Speaker 3: it go. The through your Swords reverse can indicate that
Speaker 3: you have recently gone through a difficult patch in which
Speaker 3: a relationship has ended or been challenged, a loved one
Speaker 3: has passed, or you were hurt by a situation that
Speaker 3: affected you deeply. Thankfully the reverse the reversal of this
Speaker 3: card suggests that this time has passed and you're on
Speaker 3: the path to recovery. Realizing that with every cloud comes
Speaker 3: with silver lining, and you have other things in your
Speaker 3: life which bring you joy, you have reached a point
Speaker 3: where you can accept the pain and are ready to
Speaker 3: move forward.
Speaker 2: Wow. The cards.
Speaker 3: Don't lie, bitch, the cards never fucking never lie fucking lie.
Speaker 2: Okay, well, thank you, thank you cards.
Speaker 3: Thank you Spirit for always speaking in all of the ways, numbers, dates, songs,
Speaker 3: phone calls, tarot cards. When you are the witch, you
Speaker 3: give everything the power to give the message and you
Speaker 3: are open to receiving it. So remember that whatever you
Speaker 3: use as your conduit is valid.
Speaker 2: Amen. And speaking of speaking of that and speaking of
Speaker 2: our community and our tribe, I have a horror story
Speaker 2: from the tribe.
Speaker 3: Let's lighten it up.
Speaker 2: Let's go straight from one of our former Good Vibe treaties,
Speaker 2: Costa Rica retreaties. She's a mama, And actually she switched
Speaker 2: up her whole shit after she left the retreat, and
Speaker 2: I was actually saying, you, guys, we have a retreat
Speaker 2: July twenty fourth through the twenty wait it twenty fourth,
Speaker 2: the twenty ninth. Come join us in Costa Rica for
Speaker 2: the good I'm kind of drunk.
Speaker 3: I'm good, bitch. We haven't eaten. I'm drunk.
Speaker 2: You eat today because I feel like I'm so slurring
Speaker 2: my words at Come to Costa Rica, bitch. Just look
Speaker 2: in the caption of the episode. We got a Mommy
Speaker 2: and Me retreat. You can bring your baby, you can
Speaker 2: come if you can't get a nanny, and if you
Speaker 2: don't want to leave those motherfuckers at home, come the
Speaker 2: next week and join us in Costa Rica for the
Speaker 2: women's retreat. Anyway, this hory is from a former retreating. Okay,
Speaker 2: so the stories from a long time ago. When I
Speaker 2: was studying abroad, I was shopping at the Unique Low
Speaker 2: by the Opera House in Paris when this cute, tiny
Speaker 2: dog wearing an Adidas track suit ran up on me.
Speaker 2: I crouched down and started petting him. I love dogs.
Speaker 2: Then his owner walked over and apologized. I looked up
Speaker 2: and there was an extremely handsome forty year old forty
Speaker 2: something year old man who was dressed extremely fashionably, yet
Speaker 2: so casual and effortless. Oh we love a European casual
Speaker 2: effort lis.
Speaker 3: I love a stylish older distinguished, not trying so hard,
Speaker 3: but he looks so.
Speaker 2: Good with an accent. He was racially ambiguous, but oh
Speaker 2: so sun kissed, with a muscular physique and salt pepper
Speaker 2: hair and a foreign accent. He put out his hand
Speaker 2: and helped me stand up. We chatted it up for
Speaker 2: a little bit before we exchanged numbers. I told him
Speaker 2: I was going back to the city I was studying
Speaker 2: in and it was my last day in the city.
Speaker 2: He told me if I was ever in Paris again,
Speaker 2: he wanted to take me out. That evening. We began
Speaker 2: texting and he was asking me about school and helping
Speaker 2: me refine my French. He told me that he spent
Speaker 2: a lot of time in Porto, Portugal, but was going
Speaker 2: back to Paris in two weeks for work if I
Speaker 2: was available, and if I was available to see him.
Speaker 2: After I decided to go, he immediately sent me a
Speaker 2: train ticket and some money for my travel. Yeah. I
Speaker 2: love a ticket and some money. I was impressed. So
Speaker 2: when it was time, I packed up the cutest yet
Speaker 2: mature clothes my young ass could find and went to
Speaker 2: that motherfucking train station. I would have loved. What is mature?
Speaker 2: I love mature offits you'd be putting on for older guys.
Speaker 3: I know, I know, book.
Speaker 2: I had friends in Paris, so things didn't go well,
Speaker 2: I would just go visit them instead. When I arrived,
Speaker 2: there was a driver waiting for me with my name
Speaker 2: on a paper, and I started to wonder what exactly
Speaker 2: had I gotten myself into. But hey, I was in Paris,
Speaker 2: so it was hard to complain. We pulled up at
Speaker 2: the classic at this classic Parisian apartment building right around
Speaker 2: the corner from the Opera House and the store where
Speaker 2: I met him. He greeted me with a firm and
Speaker 2: sensual hug and some cheek kisses that escorted me up
Speaker 2: stock to his apartment. Y'all, he had the most picturesque
Speaker 2: Parisian apartment ever when it was tastefully updated. I knew
Speaker 2: then I had caught a big fish. He told me
Speaker 2: there was a work party he had to go to
Speaker 2: that night. It was last minute, he said, and asked
Speaker 2: if I wanted to go with him. When I tried
Speaker 2: to say I didn't have anything to wear, so I'd
Speaker 2: rather just stay back, he casually told me he was
Speaker 2: a fashion designer what and could put together something nice
Speaker 2: for me. It was just a club party, he said. Again.
Speaker 2: I probably should have been asking more questions, and I
Speaker 2: probably should have been like, wait a second, this is weird.
Speaker 2: This felt like a fairy tale, and even now I
Speaker 2: can't believe this happened. This is the problem with Cinderella.
Speaker 2: Bitches are like, well, you have outfits. But wait, it
Speaker 2: gets crazier.
Speaker 3: Oh my god, I'm so waiting. I got hair on.
Speaker 2: My hairs went up. So we get ready and head
Speaker 2: to the club. Go straight to the table VIP shit
Speaker 2: only bitch my house off. We are partying, smoking, having
Speaker 2: a great time. I'm getting along with everyone there, and
Speaker 2: my French is flowing. Honey. I noticed one of the
Speaker 2: girls in the group was kind of flirting with me,
Speaker 2: and I was reciprocating, but hesitantly. Because I came with buddy.
Speaker 2: He must have peeped, because he leans into my ear
Speaker 2: and says, does she please you? We we English translation,
Speaker 2: I don't know how to say.
Speaker 3: Let me see, I'm gonna try to read in French.
Speaker 2: She didn't say. I was gonna say. I was gonna
Speaker 2: try to make some shit up in front. We we
Speaker 2: we we baby, put on my pp I don't know,
Speaker 2: beating the beast. I was shocked, man, I was shocked,
Speaker 2: but I was drunk, so I decided to be honest
Speaker 2: and say, we like this.
Speaker 3: Oh I didn't see that.
Speaker 2: He gave me a devious smile and told me it
Speaker 2: was okay. If I wanted to be on her and
Speaker 2: go home with him. I like this man.
Speaker 3: I like him a lot, older man.
Speaker 2: And the girls. That's just what I did. We got
Speaker 2: back from our night out, he ran me a bath
Speaker 2: and proceeded to give me a real massage before absolutely
Speaker 2: dicking me down. Maybe and older, but that dick was
Speaker 2: definitely twenty something. The rest of the weekend was amazing.
Speaker 2: We got super high and danced to weird tribal music
Speaker 2: as he told me about Bernie Man experiences. He would
Speaker 2: dress me up in some of his fashions before we'd
Speaker 2: go out and take his dog for walk or grab
Speaker 2: some dinners.
Speaker 3: This is like a story that I was, Oh, I love.
Speaker 2: He bragged about his accomplishments and showed me all all
Speaker 2: these pics of him with celebrities.
Speaker 3: I'd be like, yeah, baby, I love DNAs honest Ooh
Speaker 3: you know her.
Speaker 2: It was honestly one of the best weekends of my life.
Speaker 2: So when the car came to take me to the
Speaker 2: train station and he gave me more travel money in
Speaker 2: addition to the clothes I wore to the club and
Speaker 2: a few other souvenirs from that weekend, I knew I
Speaker 2: definitely wanted to see it. I wanted to see him again.
Speaker 2: It felt too good to be true, And dear readers,
Speaker 2: it was.
Speaker 3: Oh no, oh no, I want to hit that.
Speaker 2: I hit that.
Speaker 3: It's strong. You know the backwood the day after its intense.
Speaker 2: I told you it's like the corner of my throat.
Speaker 3: Backwards are not for leftovers. You gotta eat the whole
Speaker 3: thing at first time.
Speaker 2: This is like McDonald's french fry. Like ten minutes later.
Speaker 3: It's not good the next day. If nless you're a rapper.
Speaker 3: If you're a rapper, you can probably look it. I
Speaker 3: don't think of tequila on it. Dip it in tequila.
Speaker 3: See what happens.
Speaker 2: Bitch, this needs more than that. When I tell you
Speaker 2: when I had to revive it back would you did
Speaker 2: you see that thing? To raady sentence? How to revive
Speaker 2: the person? We're putting the backwood under a hose and
Speaker 2: running it for like ten minutes.
Speaker 3: No, but we didn't do it. And I wouln't even
Speaker 3: know where it goes wrong because I'm invested and I'm piss.
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, sorry, but I have like this.
Speaker 3: I have just like visual of him. Okay, whatever, keep going, okay.
Speaker 2: A few weeks after Paris, he asked me to fly
Speaker 2: to the south of France to see him. So I
Speaker 2: went to his Instagram to see his sexy face, and
Speaker 2: as I was meandering through his page, I touched his
Speaker 2: tag photos and saw a picture posted a few days prior.
Speaker 2: He was sitting at a Daanner table in Porto with
Speaker 2: his wife.
Speaker 3: Yeah, for sure.
Speaker 2: I felt so sick and stupid and felt like I
Speaker 2: had received all that I could from that situation, so
Speaker 2: I didn't even bother confronting him. I liked the picture
Speaker 2: and never responded back to his message asking me to
Speaker 2: go to Nice.
Speaker 3: I would have been to Nise. I'm not gonna front
Speaker 3: what the fuck I would have went. I would have
Speaker 3: I you know, you don't know.
Speaker 2: Their arrangement said sorry it was so long, but this
Speaker 2: felt like a safe place to share the deal.
Speaker 3: Oh baby. First of all, well who was that? Because
Speaker 3: I I know her, I feel like that's my friend
Speaker 3: judahodas terc. She does live a rich lifestyle. I can
Speaker 3: see that happening for her. She gets all the rich niggas.
Speaker 2: She's casually living her best life because she's.
Speaker 3: A bad bitch she is, and she's she's young. God,
Speaker 3: you know, please, if you're young and you're just discovering
Speaker 3: the show.
Speaker 2: Do your fucking things, Say yes, bitch, and also send
Speaker 2: in the stories because we're just not so young anymore
Speaker 2: and we don't have as much opportunity. That's not true.
Speaker 3: I mean we do if Okay, I'm married, it's me.
Speaker 3: I'm married, so I don't have such opportunity. But we
Speaker 3: still have a fun husband. I do have a fun husband,
Speaker 3: and maybe and we like to role play, babe, can
Speaker 3: you be Parisian stylists? Give me the part, go.
Speaker 2: Go, get the twisty sash, get the nigga with the sign.
Speaker 3: I not that I feel like you should fuck up
Speaker 3: people's marriages, but I feel like at a certain age
Speaker 3: usually don't listen to me. But also I feel like
Speaker 3: they have a lot of times they have arrangements, like
Speaker 3: when me and or Lando are sixty, I might be like, yeah, nigga,
Speaker 3: go to Paris and find a young bitch. I'm doing stuff.
Speaker 3: I'm decorating our fucking niece home. Get the fuck out
Speaker 3: of my face. I used to have an old nigga
Speaker 3: shout out to Uncle Jim and his wife would call me.
Speaker 3: I just text another day, and he's forty years older
Speaker 3: than me. He's he's seventy eight right now.
Speaker 2: I can't believe it's seventy eight, bitch.
Speaker 3: We're still great friends, him and his wife. And it
Speaker 3: wasn't physical because it was certain. I mean, seventy eight
Speaker 3: is much older than forty something, so I don't know
Speaker 3: what they're I mean, you had sex with him, so
Speaker 3: I didn't have sex.
Speaker 2: She needs you to go party with him and go
Speaker 2: have fun.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I guess.
Speaker 2: I guess when your wife, when the wife knows it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, she's tired. And that was how his wife was.
Speaker 3: We would just do fun things and drugs. I don't
Speaker 3: know why we're doing drugs. He's very old, but.
Speaker 2: That's how he's alive.
Speaker 3: That's how he self preserving. And he always tell me, baby,
Speaker 3: when you get married, just make sure you roll you
Speaker 3: roll me on the boat, which y'all, I just want
Speaker 3: to come hang out with y'all. Just come roll me
Speaker 3: on the yacht. And I said, you know what. And
Speaker 3: the fact that he knew that I was gonna have
Speaker 3: a yacht when I was in my twenties, let me
Speaker 3: know that he's my fairy sugar daddy. But a story short,
Speaker 3: say yes, yeh, say yes, and do the things and
Speaker 3: have the experiences because you might just get a new
Speaker 3: wardrobe and be at the club with you know, the
Speaker 3: famous Parisian Amen. Yeah, live your fucking life.
Speaker 2: Travel is the place to be a top notcho. I
Speaker 2: had many travel you can hear a lot of my
Speaker 2: travel tender stories. But just there's like so much. There's
Speaker 2: just like a magicalness that happens when you're open, especially
Speaker 2: when you're in new foreign places.
Speaker 3: When you say yes to new places, then I feel
Speaker 3: like there's a.
Speaker 2: And then you're single also that helps, That really helps.
Speaker 3: Or you have a fun partner, friend, husband, or you
Speaker 3: like some of our friends who have who have a marriage,
Speaker 3: but there they get a hall pass in other countries.
Speaker 3: You know, there's all different dynamics that can work out.
Speaker 3: But whatever it is, make sure that you always include
Speaker 3: the fun and the possibility in your life.
Speaker 1: M hm.
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Speaker 3: This is fine.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm living so good can't you tell? I went
Speaker 1: through a drought. That's until I found out, Well maym
Speaker 1: have been known Earth? I used to be broken Hell
Speaker 1: now got the blues in to like Beyonce, Jazam throat
Speaker 1: shot or Pop in his car wearing her voices. Patriarchy
Speaker 1: kept it in the box to exploit its women put
Speaker 1: the pie and powers, so it's pointingless. They want me
Speaker 1: to be good, so I make bad choices.
Speaker 3: Bad mom, not a bad mom, but a bad mom.
Speaker 1: Fitter's in on put cannabis in their bathbone walked in
Speaker 1: bossles cap and I blew his cat ball hot dog.
Speaker 2: Now I'm immune to.
Speaker 1: The cat called Herbie and no waisted straight to it
Speaker 1: like a dollar sign. Mother, rent the number when too,
Speaker 1: It's like a water someone where you're rent the winter
Speaker 1: essential will when the summertime. I do what doll ain't
Speaker 1: know when that needs to run it by