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So stick around two minutes and we'll 6 00:00:14,280 --> 00:00:16,000 Speaker 1: get into the episode. 7 00:00:16,040 --> 00:00:18,920 Speaker 3: My parents are guilt tripping me to come back home 8 00:00:19,239 --> 00:00:20,360 Speaker 3: after evicting me. 9 00:00:20,600 --> 00:00:21,599 Speaker 4: Pick up your mind. 10 00:00:21,840 --> 00:00:24,639 Speaker 3: Last week, I twenty two female, was kicked out of 11 00:00:24,640 --> 00:00:28,480 Speaker 3: my family's home for not following the rules and being 12 00:00:28,520 --> 00:00:32,400 Speaker 3: disrespectful towards my parents. I was sick with what they 13 00:00:32,479 --> 00:00:35,880 Speaker 3: say was strep throat and stayed home from work because 14 00:00:36,000 --> 00:00:39,360 Speaker 3: I didn't want anyone else getting sick. I work with kids, 15 00:00:39,560 --> 00:00:42,920 Speaker 3: and I had this terrible neck ache spreading to my head. 16 00:00:43,720 --> 00:00:47,520 Speaker 3: I couldn't hold my head up without massaging it constantly. 17 00:00:47,720 --> 00:00:50,400 Speaker 3: By the way, this comes from random casts, and if 18 00:00:50,400 --> 00:00:52,120 Speaker 3: you want to submit your own stories, go to the 19 00:00:52,200 --> 00:00:55,880 Speaker 3: r slash Okay Storytime subreddit. I'm Carly, I'm Sophia, I'm Keon, 20 00:00:56,120 --> 00:00:58,480 Speaker 3: and we're here to give good advice. Goofily, But we 21 00:00:58,560 --> 00:01:02,000 Speaker 3: don't have all the answers. We only know what we'd do, 22 00:01:02,240 --> 00:01:03,880 Speaker 3: So let us know what you would do in the commons, 23 00:01:04,440 --> 00:01:07,440 Speaker 3: and Opie says, I told them I was staying home 24 00:01:07,600 --> 00:01:10,600 Speaker 3: and they weren't happy about it. But I'm a grown 25 00:01:10,640 --> 00:01:14,240 Speaker 3: woman and if I can't work, I'm not going. My 26 00:01:14,360 --> 00:01:17,240 Speaker 3: dad comes into my room not even ten minutes later 27 00:01:17,600 --> 00:01:20,400 Speaker 3: and tells me I'm required to help around the house, 28 00:01:20,760 --> 00:01:23,319 Speaker 3: that I wasn't allowed to have my boyfriend over and 29 00:01:23,640 --> 00:01:25,800 Speaker 3: if I wanted to see him, I'd have to drive 30 00:01:25,840 --> 00:01:28,959 Speaker 3: myself over to his house. I told him I wasn't 31 00:01:29,000 --> 00:01:32,199 Speaker 3: doing any of that. I was sick and in pain 32 00:01:32,440 --> 00:01:36,040 Speaker 3: and needed to rest. He argued with me, saying I 33 00:01:36,240 --> 00:01:39,959 Speaker 3: was lazy and comparing my pain to his, going on 34 00:01:40,080 --> 00:01:42,280 Speaker 3: about how he still got up and went to work 35 00:01:42,319 --> 00:01:44,959 Speaker 3: when he wasn't feeling well in the army. I told 36 00:01:45,040 --> 00:01:48,000 Speaker 3: him this wasn't the army, and he's not my drill 37 00:01:48,080 --> 00:01:51,320 Speaker 3: sergeant and he needs to let me rest and get 38 00:01:51,360 --> 00:01:54,560 Speaker 3: out of my room. Then my mom comes in to 39 00:01:54,640 --> 00:01:57,800 Speaker 3: yell at me, saying I had until eleven o'clock to 40 00:01:57,840 --> 00:02:01,920 Speaker 3: be up and ready to help around the house, or 41 00:02:02,080 --> 00:02:05,080 Speaker 3: she was going to drag me out of bed and 42 00:02:05,240 --> 00:02:08,600 Speaker 3: force me to work. I calmly told her, no, I 43 00:02:08,720 --> 00:02:11,799 Speaker 3: wasn't feeling well and needed to rest. She said no, 44 00:02:12,200 --> 00:02:15,480 Speaker 3: I was going to be up by ten forty five 45 00:02:16,120 --> 00:02:20,120 Speaker 3: and help around the house with all the chores. I 46 00:02:20,200 --> 00:02:24,040 Speaker 3: started getting angry and raised my voice, saying I was 47 00:02:24,120 --> 00:02:27,360 Speaker 3: sick with strap and she should let me rest. She 48 00:02:27,480 --> 00:02:30,239 Speaker 3: got all huffy and said she'd be back at ten 49 00:02:30,320 --> 00:02:33,120 Speaker 3: forty five to get me out of bed. Skip ahead 50 00:02:33,160 --> 00:02:35,720 Speaker 3: to the end of the day when I started feeling better. 51 00:02:36,240 --> 00:02:38,880 Speaker 3: I was up and tidying where I sit in the 52 00:02:38,919 --> 00:02:42,320 Speaker 3: living room. I was texting my boyfriend and he said 53 00:02:42,360 --> 00:02:45,880 Speaker 3: to guess where he was. Sure enough, there was his 54 00:02:46,000 --> 00:02:49,480 Speaker 3: car parked on the street. I go outside to say 55 00:02:49,560 --> 00:02:52,080 Speaker 3: hi to him. We're both standing on the street and 56 00:02:52,160 --> 00:02:55,839 Speaker 3: my boyfriend is massaging my neck. My dad comes out 57 00:02:55,840 --> 00:02:58,639 Speaker 3: and tells me my boyfriend has to leave. He has 58 00:02:58,840 --> 00:03:01,040 Speaker 3: less than a minute to do so. I asked if 59 00:03:01,040 --> 00:03:04,040 Speaker 3: he was serious, because we weren't even on the property. 60 00:03:04,960 --> 00:03:07,760 Speaker 3: My dad reiterated that he was serious, that he'd made 61 00:03:07,800 --> 00:03:10,360 Speaker 3: a rule and I needed to follow it. I said 62 00:03:10,360 --> 00:03:12,919 Speaker 3: his rule was stupid and that I'm a grown woman. 63 00:03:13,919 --> 00:03:18,360 Speaker 3: My dad said one minute and walked away. I go 64 00:03:18,480 --> 00:03:20,920 Speaker 3: back inside and both my parents try to confront me 65 00:03:21,000 --> 00:03:25,000 Speaker 3: about my behavior. I calmly said no, I didn't want 66 00:03:25,000 --> 00:03:27,359 Speaker 3: to talk to them right now. They said they didn't 67 00:03:27,360 --> 00:03:30,120 Speaker 3: care they wanted to talk. I said, no, thank you, 68 00:03:30,760 --> 00:03:33,320 Speaker 3: I'm going to bed since I have work in the morning. 69 00:03:33,560 --> 00:03:37,400 Speaker 3: Good night. They followed me into the hallway and forced 70 00:03:37,440 --> 00:03:41,640 Speaker 3: their way into my bedroom doorway after I repeatedly told 71 00:03:41,720 --> 00:03:46,520 Speaker 3: them to leave me alone. After some arguing, my dad said, 72 00:03:46,920 --> 00:03:49,600 Speaker 3: we just want what's best for you, but if you 73 00:03:49,640 --> 00:03:52,320 Speaker 3: don't want to listen, then you need to find someplace 74 00:03:52,440 --> 00:03:58,120 Speaker 3: else to live. I just stayed silent. Then my mom 75 00:03:58,360 --> 00:04:01,800 Speaker 3: shoved her way into my room. She started yelling at 76 00:04:01,840 --> 00:04:04,560 Speaker 3: me to sit down and listen. I told her no. 77 00:04:05,240 --> 00:04:07,920 Speaker 3: She pushed me in my shoulder and said, sit your 78 00:04:07,960 --> 00:04:11,120 Speaker 3: little butt down and listen. I was already reaching for 79 00:04:11,200 --> 00:04:15,200 Speaker 3: the phone trying to call my boyfriend. She tried intimidating me, 80 00:04:15,600 --> 00:04:18,520 Speaker 3: saying he's not gonna deal with you anymore. He's going 81 00:04:18,560 --> 00:04:20,720 Speaker 3: to see your true colors and he's going to bring 82 00:04:20,760 --> 00:04:24,680 Speaker 3: you back here. I got angry at that. After calling 83 00:04:24,720 --> 00:04:27,560 Speaker 3: him and getting into a screaming match with my mom 84 00:04:27,839 --> 00:04:32,120 Speaker 3: while on the phone, she told me get out, you 85 00:04:32,200 --> 00:04:37,080 Speaker 3: need to leave, and I punched a wall. She then said, 86 00:04:37,240 --> 00:04:42,080 Speaker 3: oh my god, we should have her committed, she's insane. 87 00:04:42,279 --> 00:04:44,960 Speaker 3: I would have laid my hands on her to show 88 00:04:45,000 --> 00:04:48,960 Speaker 3: her insane, but I'm not one to stoop to their level. 89 00:04:49,480 --> 00:04:54,239 Speaker 3: I will say, punching a wall does ride a hard 90 00:04:54,400 --> 00:04:59,720 Speaker 3: line for me on behavior. Do I think they were 91 00:04:59,760 --> 00:05:00,680 Speaker 3: tree you great? 92 00:05:00,920 --> 00:05:05,440 Speaker 4: No, the thing is. 93 00:05:04,720 --> 00:05:10,240 Speaker 3: Immediately escalating that into the potential of physicist violence is 94 00:05:10,320 --> 00:05:11,440 Speaker 3: the biggest No. 95 00:05:11,440 --> 00:05:17,040 Speaker 5: No, Yeah, I think that. Honestly, you just need to 96 00:05:17,080 --> 00:05:17,640 Speaker 5: move out. 97 00:05:17,960 --> 00:05:19,919 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think moving out is a great idea. 98 00:05:20,640 --> 00:05:22,479 Speaker 4: I think you just got to move out. That's my 99 00:05:22,560 --> 00:05:23,440 Speaker 4: only advice for you. 100 00:05:23,800 --> 00:05:29,360 Speaker 3: It's wrong, I know, but she laid hands first and 101 00:05:29,560 --> 00:05:33,160 Speaker 3: was almost asking for a reaction out of me, unlike her, 102 00:05:33,240 --> 00:05:36,159 Speaker 3: though I have self control over my emotions. 103 00:05:36,200 --> 00:05:41,200 Speaker 4: Well do we wall might not? Punch of walls? 104 00:05:41,240 --> 00:05:43,440 Speaker 3: Sounds like everybody's a little uh. 105 00:05:43,480 --> 00:05:45,480 Speaker 4: It sounds like we're all part of the same family. 106 00:05:46,440 --> 00:05:50,480 Speaker 6: I've hit walls and stuff before, but never like to 107 00:05:50,520 --> 00:05:54,000 Speaker 6: scare somebody who's in front of me or intimidate them. 108 00:05:54,040 --> 00:05:55,039 Speaker 6: And let me tell you what. 109 00:05:55,279 --> 00:05:57,159 Speaker 3: You all always win. 110 00:05:57,640 --> 00:06:00,400 Speaker 6: Yeah, the wall, you can't fan. 111 00:06:01,880 --> 00:06:05,720 Speaker 5: I've never punched a wall or a person. I accidentally 112 00:06:05,760 --> 00:06:09,880 Speaker 5: punched through a window. Once you're we should get you kubits. 113 00:06:10,680 --> 00:06:12,800 Speaker 3: It was an accident, and it was at a haunted 114 00:06:12,800 --> 00:06:15,680 Speaker 3: house and we were like knocking on them just to 115 00:06:15,839 --> 00:06:18,279 Speaker 3: like make like a rattle noise. And it was a 116 00:06:18,320 --> 00:06:21,200 Speaker 3: really old window, and I guess I just hit it 117 00:06:21,240 --> 00:06:23,320 Speaker 3: too hard one time and my hand went straight through it. 118 00:06:23,480 --> 00:06:25,440 Speaker 4: Probably good for this spookiness. 119 00:06:25,520 --> 00:06:27,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know. The guy laughed in my face 120 00:06:27,640 --> 00:06:30,599 Speaker 3: and went, that's not supposed to happen, and then I 121 00:06:30,640 --> 00:06:33,680 Speaker 3: walked away because he had been messing with. 122 00:06:33,720 --> 00:06:35,000 Speaker 4: Us the whole time. 123 00:06:35,240 --> 00:06:38,600 Speaker 3: Dang rough, So it's probably why I hit a little 124 00:06:38,640 --> 00:06:42,000 Speaker 3: bit harder than I had been. So I packed most 125 00:06:42,000 --> 00:06:45,000 Speaker 3: of my clothes into different bags and left the house. 126 00:06:45,480 --> 00:06:49,320 Speaker 3: That was Monday, September ninth, which was also my boyfriend 127 00:06:49,400 --> 00:06:53,520 Speaker 3: and mine's anniversary. I've been back once with my cousin 128 00:06:53,560 --> 00:06:55,920 Speaker 3: to get the rest of my things. My parents have 129 00:06:56,200 --> 00:06:59,320 Speaker 3: texted me a couple of times asking to talk, hoping 130 00:06:59,400 --> 00:07:02,640 Speaker 3: I'm okay, They saying they missed me, but I've ignored 131 00:07:02,720 --> 00:07:05,719 Speaker 3: all contact with them unless it was regarding my dog. 132 00:07:07,000 --> 00:07:09,520 Speaker 3: Now they're sending family members to check in on me 133 00:07:09,720 --> 00:07:12,320 Speaker 3: and try to get my side of the story, but 134 00:07:12,360 --> 00:07:15,640 Speaker 3: there really isn't much else to tell. I really just 135 00:07:15,760 --> 00:07:19,120 Speaker 3: don't want to focus on any of that negativity when 136 00:07:19,120 --> 00:07:22,760 Speaker 3: I've already started feeling better since I've left. I'm currently 137 00:07:22,800 --> 00:07:25,320 Speaker 3: looking for a permanent place to live in or near 138 00:07:25,360 --> 00:07:27,800 Speaker 3: my city so I can be close to work, friends, 139 00:07:27,880 --> 00:07:31,680 Speaker 3: and school. I'm considering starting a gofund me, but I 140 00:07:31,760 --> 00:07:34,920 Speaker 3: don't like asking people for money and would feel terrible 141 00:07:34,960 --> 00:07:38,480 Speaker 3: doing so. Please give any advice on that topic, even 142 00:07:38,520 --> 00:07:43,040 Speaker 3: if it's just for deposits, rent, food, or bills. Anyways, 143 00:07:43,200 --> 00:07:46,040 Speaker 3: Sorry again for the long post. Thank you for reading. 144 00:07:46,080 --> 00:07:48,560 Speaker 3: If you state this long, we have some relevant comments. 145 00:07:49,200 --> 00:07:49,320 Speaker 5: Uh. 146 00:07:49,560 --> 00:07:52,760 Speaker 3: No, I am the middle child and only girl. What's 147 00:07:52,800 --> 00:07:56,120 Speaker 3: strange is that my older brother did the same exact 148 00:07:56,160 --> 00:07:58,880 Speaker 3: things when he was living with them and us, and 149 00:07:58,960 --> 00:08:01,840 Speaker 3: they never treated him nearly as terrible as they did 150 00:08:01,880 --> 00:08:05,400 Speaker 3: and do me. No, I was not paying rent. We 151 00:08:05,480 --> 00:08:08,440 Speaker 3: had a verbal agreement that after I turned eighteen several 152 00:08:08,520 --> 00:08:10,840 Speaker 3: years ago, I was to go to school and work 153 00:08:10,880 --> 00:08:14,280 Speaker 3: a job to avoid paying rent. They broke that agreement 154 00:08:14,320 --> 00:08:16,760 Speaker 3: by making me pay two hundred dollars in rent for 155 00:08:16,800 --> 00:08:20,040 Speaker 3: about a year, which left me nearly broke every month 156 00:08:20,120 --> 00:08:22,680 Speaker 3: because I was working a minimum wage job. They tried 157 00:08:22,680 --> 00:08:24,760 Speaker 3: again recently to make me pay two hundred and fifty 158 00:08:24,800 --> 00:08:27,280 Speaker 3: dollars a month. But I was very firm on the 159 00:08:27,320 --> 00:08:30,400 Speaker 3: agreement that we had as I'm still in school and working. 160 00:08:31,680 --> 00:08:33,880 Speaker 3: That's actually what I told them the last time a 161 00:08:34,000 --> 00:08:36,640 Speaker 3: huge fight like this happened and I left my house 162 00:08:36,760 --> 00:08:40,040 Speaker 3: for three days on my own accord. I wasn't forced out. 163 00:08:40,679 --> 00:08:43,680 Speaker 3: When I returned, I had a long conversation with them 164 00:08:43,720 --> 00:08:46,400 Speaker 3: about how I would help around the house a little 165 00:08:46,400 --> 00:08:49,360 Speaker 3: bit more or a little more, but they needed to 166 00:08:49,360 --> 00:08:53,440 Speaker 3: stop treating me like a child because I wasn't I 167 00:08:53,480 --> 00:08:56,480 Speaker 3: say tried, because at the time I was working two jobs, 168 00:08:56,920 --> 00:08:59,480 Speaker 3: and between the both of them, I wasn't making enough 169 00:08:59,520 --> 00:09:03,640 Speaker 3: money to comfortably support myself. The job I have now 170 00:09:03,760 --> 00:09:06,320 Speaker 3: allows me to thankfully try to save some more and 171 00:09:06,480 --> 00:09:09,439 Speaker 3: rent a place if I can find something. But no 172 00:09:09,440 --> 00:09:11,959 Speaker 3: matter what I did, they still treat me like a kid. 173 00:09:12,080 --> 00:09:15,120 Speaker 3: I'm a little confused on the timeline here, because they've 174 00:09:15,240 --> 00:09:17,560 Speaker 3: had you paying two hundred dollars for less than a year. 175 00:09:18,040 --> 00:09:20,000 Speaker 3: You had one job, you weren't making it enough. You 176 00:09:20,000 --> 00:09:21,680 Speaker 3: had two jobs, you were making enough. You have a 177 00:09:21,760 --> 00:09:24,319 Speaker 3: job now that you are making enough. 178 00:09:24,400 --> 00:09:29,120 Speaker 5: Yeah, So okay, this this family sucks and this terrible situation. Yes, 179 00:09:29,520 --> 00:09:31,360 Speaker 5: but I think a peace point about like them treating 180 00:09:31,440 --> 00:09:32,239 Speaker 5: like a kid. 181 00:09:32,400 --> 00:09:33,720 Speaker 3: I having some ways. 182 00:09:33,960 --> 00:09:36,280 Speaker 5: Yeah, I've lived with my parents when I like drink, 183 00:09:36,880 --> 00:09:39,839 Speaker 5: and that's just I don't know, maybe it's my parents, 184 00:09:42,080 --> 00:09:44,760 Speaker 5: but yeah, when you live with your parents, even regards 185 00:09:44,840 --> 00:09:47,120 Speaker 5: as a fault, you are at leaven when I go 186 00:09:47,240 --> 00:09:49,920 Speaker 5: home like a kid, So like I live across the 187 00:09:49,960 --> 00:09:51,520 Speaker 5: country and I just show back up at home and 188 00:09:51,559 --> 00:09:53,880 Speaker 5: I'm like, yeah, okay. And also you do kind of 189 00:09:53,920 --> 00:09:57,240 Speaker 5: fall back into those patterns, yeah, of like being more 190 00:09:57,280 --> 00:09:59,240 Speaker 5: like these are my parents. They made food for me, 191 00:09:59,280 --> 00:10:04,360 Speaker 5: you know, and if oh p it's even kind of 192 00:10:04,400 --> 00:10:08,120 Speaker 5: admitted that she wasn't helping out enough, then it might 193 00:10:08,200 --> 00:10:11,080 Speaker 5: be like, are like, are we acting like a roommate 194 00:10:11,120 --> 00:10:12,480 Speaker 5: or are reacting like their kid? 195 00:10:13,000 --> 00:10:16,640 Speaker 3: Yeah. I don't think that it's unreasonable for them to 196 00:10:17,200 --> 00:10:20,720 Speaker 3: change and want rent if they felt like maybe you 197 00:10:20,800 --> 00:10:23,720 Speaker 3: weren't holding up your end of the bargain. It sounds 198 00:10:23,720 --> 00:10:25,319 Speaker 3: to me like you were holding up your end. 199 00:10:25,280 --> 00:10:25,520 Speaker 6: Of the bar. 200 00:10:25,920 --> 00:10:27,920 Speaker 5: I still think that they were unreasonable, but I think 201 00:10:27,920 --> 00:10:31,080 Speaker 5: that this is some I don't know, it just seems 202 00:10:31,160 --> 00:10:33,680 Speaker 5: like a common issue. 203 00:10:33,920 --> 00:10:37,400 Speaker 3: Ultimately, if you're saying now you can afford your own place, Yeah, 204 00:10:37,559 --> 00:10:39,400 Speaker 3: then I out stay in your own place. 205 00:10:39,640 --> 00:10:40,360 Speaker 4: Yeah, do it. 206 00:10:40,480 --> 00:10:41,120 Speaker 3: That's the time. 207 00:10:41,200 --> 00:10:43,319 Speaker 5: It's like, unfortunately, this is somewhat of a common issue, 208 00:10:43,320 --> 00:10:45,000 Speaker 5: and the only way to fix it is. 209 00:10:44,960 --> 00:10:47,600 Speaker 3: To lead, right. Yeah, Dutchess says, you want to put 210 00:10:47,640 --> 00:10:49,679 Speaker 3: your foot down about not paying rent and want to 211 00:10:49,720 --> 00:10:50,800 Speaker 3: be treated like an adult. 212 00:10:50,840 --> 00:10:52,240 Speaker 4: That, Yeah, that's what I'm saying. 213 00:10:52,280 --> 00:10:55,000 Speaker 5: I'm like, oh, pee, there's some this kind of expectation 214 00:10:55,120 --> 00:10:58,480 Speaker 5: that she is an adult when she's twenty two, twenty 215 00:10:58,520 --> 00:10:59,839 Speaker 5: two years old. And I don't mean this in like 216 00:10:59,840 --> 00:11:02,800 Speaker 5: an negative, but like she's twenty two years old, not 217 00:11:02,880 --> 00:11:06,560 Speaker 5: paying rent, living with her parents, and I think often 218 00:11:07,000 --> 00:11:14,760 Speaker 5: just the dynamic, uh, it just kind of happens by default, Yeah, 219 00:11:14,920 --> 00:11:20,200 Speaker 5: where you revert back into parent child and often the 220 00:11:20,240 --> 00:11:22,240 Speaker 5: only time that your parents are going to like actually 221 00:11:22,240 --> 00:11:24,200 Speaker 5: see as adult is when you become fully independent. 222 00:11:24,360 --> 00:11:27,880 Speaker 3: Right, These parents still sound it's still itchy pu PuO. 223 00:11:27,880 --> 00:11:29,400 Speaker 7: In a lot of absolutely agree. 224 00:11:30,040 --> 00:11:32,840 Speaker 3: This is not defending the parents here. 225 00:11:33,160 --> 00:11:33,439 Speaker 7: Yeah. 226 00:11:33,840 --> 00:11:35,640 Speaker 5: My point is just at the end of the day, 227 00:11:35,720 --> 00:11:39,080 Speaker 5: the only way to get in respect and to you know, 228 00:11:39,360 --> 00:11:41,880 Speaker 5: get a little peace is to leave. 229 00:11:42,000 --> 00:11:46,520 Speaker 3: Just get out and fully embrace that adultness. Yeah, and 230 00:11:46,600 --> 00:11:49,280 Speaker 3: it's from the main posts. I went through a lot 231 00:11:49,320 --> 00:11:52,880 Speaker 3: of the comments and found some things interesting. Firstly, I 232 00:11:52,920 --> 00:11:54,800 Speaker 3: never said I punched a hole in the wall. I 233 00:11:54,840 --> 00:11:56,840 Speaker 3: did the old one too, the wall, and I know 234 00:11:56,920 --> 00:11:59,320 Speaker 3: I shouldn't have. It was very stupid of me to 235 00:11:59,360 --> 00:12:02,080 Speaker 3: have done so. Like I said in the comments, it 236 00:12:02,120 --> 00:12:06,760 Speaker 3: takes a lot to get me angry, but that's no excuse. Secondly, 237 00:12:06,920 --> 00:12:09,640 Speaker 3: I was not playing video games in the common area. 238 00:12:10,080 --> 00:12:12,200 Speaker 3: I was sitting in the living room with a mask 239 00:12:12,280 --> 00:12:14,360 Speaker 3: on because my mother had forced me out of my 240 00:12:14,480 --> 00:12:18,520 Speaker 3: room and do chores and entertained the ant she invited over. 241 00:12:19,000 --> 00:12:22,319 Speaker 3: But I was sick and in pain. Third I saw 242 00:12:22,360 --> 00:12:25,719 Speaker 3: a doctor. The antibiotics were prescribed by them, and they 243 00:12:25,760 --> 00:12:28,839 Speaker 3: tested me for STREP. I only said I didn't think 244 00:12:28,880 --> 00:12:30,880 Speaker 3: it was strep because I didn't have any of the 245 00:12:30,920 --> 00:12:33,800 Speaker 3: typical symptoms like a sore, itchy throat, or a cough. 246 00:12:34,160 --> 00:12:36,560 Speaker 3: STRIP does have a cough. There is an update on 247 00:12:36,600 --> 00:12:39,320 Speaker 3: my page and on this sub I will link it 248 00:12:39,360 --> 00:12:42,439 Speaker 3: below in the comments, and my apologies for any confusion 249 00:12:42,520 --> 00:12:45,640 Speaker 3: in the original post. I didn't notice that some text 250 00:12:45,800 --> 00:12:49,160 Speaker 3: got deleted until just now as I was reading the comments. 251 00:12:49,240 --> 00:12:51,840 Speaker 3: Out to my boyfriend. I'm best wizards to you all. Update. 252 00:12:51,920 --> 00:12:54,680 Speaker 3: Do you have anything else to add before we so? 253 00:12:54,800 --> 00:12:56,640 Speaker 3: Did she have strip or not have to strip? I 254 00:12:56,679 --> 00:12:59,000 Speaker 3: don't know it's strip, but it wasn't strip. 255 00:12:59,320 --> 00:12:59,520 Speaker 4: Yeah. 256 00:13:02,400 --> 00:13:04,400 Speaker 5: Yeah, I think that like when once you're able to 257 00:13:04,720 --> 00:13:08,720 Speaker 5: move out, move out, move out. Yeah, it's just like 258 00:13:09,240 --> 00:13:11,920 Speaker 5: I think sometimes it's just like you try and live 259 00:13:11,960 --> 00:13:14,200 Speaker 5: with your parents and it's just like, nah. 260 00:13:13,920 --> 00:13:15,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, you're twenty two. It's about the time that a 261 00:13:15,640 --> 00:13:17,760 Speaker 3: lot of people do end up doing it. Sometimes people 262 00:13:17,760 --> 00:13:18,840 Speaker 3: stay longer m hm. 263 00:13:19,160 --> 00:13:21,080 Speaker 5: And sometimes it worse out for people like I have 264 00:13:21,240 --> 00:13:23,280 Speaker 5: ye friends who live with their parents and have a 265 00:13:23,280 --> 00:13:26,920 Speaker 5: great relationship exactly and are able to do that. And 266 00:13:27,040 --> 00:13:29,040 Speaker 5: I have friends who were like I would never live 267 00:13:29,080 --> 00:13:31,240 Speaker 5: with my parents ever again. 268 00:13:32,200 --> 00:13:34,240 Speaker 4: Uh. And it just depends on the parents. 269 00:13:34,800 --> 00:13:37,160 Speaker 3: Update. Parents kicked me out and are now trying to 270 00:13:37,160 --> 00:13:41,720 Speaker 3: get me back two days later. Editors know these are 271 00:13:41,920 --> 00:13:46,760 Speaker 3: texts from the conversation with Opie's family. Okay dad, Wednesday 272 00:13:46,800 --> 00:13:51,680 Speaker 3: at twelve thirty two am. No one said you cannot 273 00:13:51,679 --> 00:13:55,280 Speaker 3: come home. I love you, Opie. You are my baby girl. 274 00:13:55,600 --> 00:13:57,920 Speaker 3: I only want the best for you, and so does 275 00:13:57,920 --> 00:14:00,200 Speaker 3: your mom. I don't know what we did to you 276 00:14:00,360 --> 00:14:03,080 Speaker 3: that makes you unhappy. All we want is for you 277 00:14:03,160 --> 00:14:06,280 Speaker 3: to be successful in life, but you can't do that 278 00:14:06,360 --> 00:14:09,360 Speaker 3: while you're always laying in bed asleep, not going to work, 279 00:14:09,480 --> 00:14:13,000 Speaker 3: or always sick. You need to take better care of yourself. 280 00:14:13,559 --> 00:14:16,200 Speaker 3: I love you. No one said you cannot come home. 281 00:14:16,480 --> 00:14:21,080 Speaker 3: You can yesterday at seven fifty eight pm. Dad, your 282 00:14:21,080 --> 00:14:24,040 Speaker 3: mother and I are a mess. We miss you. I 283 00:14:24,120 --> 00:14:26,160 Speaker 3: wish we could have just been able to talk about it. 284 00:14:26,520 --> 00:14:30,720 Speaker 3: I hope you are doing well. From the mother, Opie. 285 00:14:30,920 --> 00:14:33,480 Speaker 3: I am thinking of you. When you are ready, hopefully 286 00:14:33,480 --> 00:14:36,560 Speaker 3: we can talk. I am a disaster. I love you 287 00:14:36,720 --> 00:14:40,000 Speaker 3: and I care for you. Little brother. Is there a 288 00:14:40,000 --> 00:14:44,040 Speaker 3: game tomorrow? And do I have mail? Little brother? I'm 289 00:14:44,080 --> 00:14:46,840 Speaker 3: staying out of your business. If you want something, you 290 00:14:46,920 --> 00:14:49,360 Speaker 3: can come by letting me know a day in advance 291 00:14:49,400 --> 00:14:53,080 Speaker 3: and fix your attitude. Otherwise, don't come around at all. 292 00:14:53,400 --> 00:14:58,120 Speaker 3: There's games every Friday, Opie. I was just asking, geez, 293 00:14:58,680 --> 00:15:02,480 Speaker 3: little brother. I I didn't do anything wrong. Ope, neither 294 00:15:02,480 --> 00:15:05,320 Speaker 3: did I. I was just asking you a question. I 295 00:15:05,360 --> 00:15:07,560 Speaker 3: don't think I need a day's notice to ask if 296 00:15:07,560 --> 00:15:09,680 Speaker 3: I have mail. I wasn't going to pick it up, 297 00:15:10,280 --> 00:15:13,080 Speaker 3: little brother. Yes, you do, because as far as it goes, 298 00:15:13,200 --> 00:15:16,040 Speaker 3: you don't live here anymore, so you need me, so 299 00:15:16,080 --> 00:15:18,000 Speaker 3: you need to tell me a few days in advance 300 00:15:18,040 --> 00:15:20,240 Speaker 3: to pick something up. If you don't think you did 301 00:15:20,240 --> 00:15:22,640 Speaker 3: anything wrong, then that's what you think, but it ain't 302 00:15:22,640 --> 00:15:25,880 Speaker 3: the truth. Anyway. I'm busy. I have to go rest 303 00:15:25,880 --> 00:15:27,880 Speaker 3: of the posts. It's been about a week since I 304 00:15:27,920 --> 00:15:32,240 Speaker 3: originally posted. I wanted to provide some clarification on certain things. 305 00:15:32,880 --> 00:15:37,000 Speaker 3: My family is Hispanic and my mom is very authoritarian. 306 00:15:37,480 --> 00:15:40,320 Speaker 3: It's her way or the highway. I don't want to 307 00:15:40,320 --> 00:15:43,000 Speaker 3: get into it because this will be a very long post, 308 00:15:43,400 --> 00:15:45,840 Speaker 3: and I want to keep this shorter than my original. 309 00:15:46,480 --> 00:15:50,560 Speaker 3: Regarding money and bank accounts, I am working on getting 310 00:15:50,560 --> 00:15:52,760 Speaker 3: my money out. I am going to head back to 311 00:15:52,800 --> 00:15:56,920 Speaker 3: the bank today September twentieth after work and work on 312 00:15:57,000 --> 00:16:00,320 Speaker 3: getting it closed after withdrawing all the money. I was 313 00:16:00,400 --> 00:16:02,840 Speaker 3: also going to sell my car and use the money 314 00:16:02,840 --> 00:16:05,840 Speaker 3: to buy a little scooter since I am now responsible 315 00:16:05,880 --> 00:16:08,880 Speaker 3: for all my medical and car insurance bills. But I 316 00:16:08,880 --> 00:16:11,400 Speaker 3: am just going to get the cheapest options and hope 317 00:16:11,440 --> 00:16:13,440 Speaker 3: for the best. I was only selling my car because 318 00:16:13,440 --> 00:16:15,560 Speaker 3: I was still living at home at the time. I 319 00:16:15,600 --> 00:16:18,680 Speaker 3: am currently living with my boyfriend and on the weekends 320 00:16:18,720 --> 00:16:21,240 Speaker 3: I'll be staying with my aunt about thirty minutes from 321 00:16:21,280 --> 00:16:24,720 Speaker 3: the city. I have a tour scheduled for a one bedroom, 322 00:16:24,800 --> 00:16:29,120 Speaker 3: shared bath today after work and an apartment tomorrow at three, 323 00:16:29,480 --> 00:16:33,080 Speaker 3: both in my area and close to work. I want 324 00:16:33,120 --> 00:16:35,240 Speaker 3: to thank you all for the support you have given me, 325 00:16:35,480 --> 00:16:38,320 Speaker 3: and those who have reached out privately even more so, 326 00:16:39,280 --> 00:16:42,760 Speaker 3: thank you so much. I only have five people supporting 327 00:16:42,760 --> 00:16:45,640 Speaker 3: me in real life right now, and they're the only 328 00:16:45,720 --> 00:16:48,720 Speaker 3: family who believe me. My parents ended up turning my 329 00:16:48,760 --> 00:16:53,000 Speaker 3: little brother against me, and that feeling sucks. The feeling 330 00:16:53,080 --> 00:16:56,680 Speaker 3: is indescribable. Last week he was on my side and 331 00:16:56,760 --> 00:17:00,960 Speaker 3: this week is the polar opposite. Attached are the screenshots 332 00:17:00,960 --> 00:17:03,200 Speaker 3: of the things they said when I didn't come back 333 00:17:03,200 --> 00:17:06,239 Speaker 3: home right away. Again, thank you all so much for 334 00:17:06,280 --> 00:17:09,480 Speaker 3: your support and your help. I will update again once 335 00:17:09,520 --> 00:17:12,680 Speaker 3: I get everything squared away, but I will still respond 336 00:17:12,720 --> 00:17:16,400 Speaker 3: in the comments as they pop up. Update two nineteen 337 00:17:16,480 --> 00:17:19,440 Speaker 3: days later, So about a week after I was kicked out, 338 00:17:19,600 --> 00:17:21,840 Speaker 3: I went back to the house with my cousin to 339 00:17:21,880 --> 00:17:24,840 Speaker 3: get the rest of my clothes and some things I 340 00:17:24,880 --> 00:17:27,800 Speaker 3: wanted to bring to my aunt's house. When I got there, 341 00:17:28,000 --> 00:17:29,919 Speaker 3: my dad let us in and tried to give me 342 00:17:29,960 --> 00:17:33,800 Speaker 3: a hug, but I didn't let him. Context they use 343 00:17:33,880 --> 00:17:35,639 Speaker 3: hugs as a way to get you to listen to 344 00:17:35,680 --> 00:17:38,280 Speaker 3: what they have to say. They'll hug you and whisper 345 00:17:38,320 --> 00:17:40,840 Speaker 3: into your ear like I'm sorry about all this happening. 346 00:17:40,920 --> 00:17:43,800 Speaker 3: Please come back, forgive me. It won't happen again. 347 00:17:44,280 --> 00:17:46,320 Speaker 7: I love you, come back. 348 00:17:47,680 --> 00:17:50,600 Speaker 3: Yikes. So I don't hug them after fights because I 349 00:17:50,640 --> 00:17:53,880 Speaker 3: hate dealing with that. I packed up my things while 350 00:17:53,920 --> 00:17:57,280 Speaker 3: my little brother and cousin talked. Then my mom came 351 00:17:57,320 --> 00:18:00,520 Speaker 3: home and basically stormed into my old room and looked 352 00:18:00,520 --> 00:18:03,960 Speaker 3: at us all like she was furious before saying hello 353 00:18:04,000 --> 00:18:06,480 Speaker 3: to my brother and cousin. I didn't get a hello, 354 00:18:07,000 --> 00:18:09,720 Speaker 3: but for the sake of being polite and not starting anything, 355 00:18:09,920 --> 00:18:14,159 Speaker 3: I said hello, very flatly, no emotion behind it. She 356 00:18:14,359 --> 00:18:16,760 Speaker 3: hates when I do that. She thinks I'm being rude. 357 00:18:17,000 --> 00:18:18,080 Speaker 3: Sounds like you both. 358 00:18:17,840 --> 00:18:20,280 Speaker 4: Were little, sound like I don't know. It just sounds 359 00:18:20,280 --> 00:18:25,840 Speaker 4: like opia's bad. Really like it sounds like typical like parent. 360 00:18:26,320 --> 00:18:28,719 Speaker 4: A lot of his sounds like typical parent. Like I 361 00:18:28,760 --> 00:18:29,919 Speaker 4: hate my parents. 362 00:18:30,359 --> 00:18:32,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's why I'm like, I need to know other things, 363 00:18:32,240 --> 00:18:34,400 Speaker 3: like are they like do they gaslight you a lot? 364 00:18:34,760 --> 00:18:36,960 Speaker 3: Like these texts could be that and we're just not 365 00:18:37,040 --> 00:18:43,160 Speaker 3: getting that from like thisanic perspectance. Yeah, she didn't say anything, 366 00:18:43,520 --> 00:18:46,760 Speaker 3: just huffed and walked away. Both my parents kept coming 367 00:18:46,840 --> 00:18:49,479 Speaker 3: into the room and staring at me, my dad with 368 00:18:49,680 --> 00:18:53,120 Speaker 3: sadness and regret in his eyes, my mom with anger. 369 00:18:53,920 --> 00:18:56,040 Speaker 3: Once I got everything packed, I went to get in 370 00:18:56,040 --> 00:18:59,320 Speaker 3: the car with my cousin, and my parents tried to 371 00:18:59,720 --> 00:19:03,240 Speaker 3: talk to me several times. I told them I wasn't 372 00:19:03,280 --> 00:19:06,920 Speaker 3: ready to talk yet. They insisted, and while I was 373 00:19:06,960 --> 00:19:09,199 Speaker 3: sitting in the car, they came back up, opened the 374 00:19:09,200 --> 00:19:12,399 Speaker 3: door and started apologizing. They said that they loved me 375 00:19:12,640 --> 00:19:15,520 Speaker 3: and missed me, and that they've been a wreck since 376 00:19:15,560 --> 00:19:18,679 Speaker 3: the whole thing occurred. My mom started saying how she 377 00:19:18,880 --> 00:19:21,800 Speaker 3: wasn't sure why I hated her so much, since she's 378 00:19:21,800 --> 00:19:24,560 Speaker 3: done nothing but support me in anything I've wanted to do. 379 00:19:25,640 --> 00:19:28,879 Speaker 3: Her support was just a lot of criticisms. When I 380 00:19:28,880 --> 00:19:32,000 Speaker 3: told her about the things I was passionate about, I 381 00:19:32,040 --> 00:19:34,800 Speaker 3: didn't say anything as they both told me how much 382 00:19:34,840 --> 00:19:37,919 Speaker 3: they loved and how much they loved me and missed 383 00:19:37,920 --> 00:19:40,680 Speaker 3: me and how they've been a mess without me there. 384 00:19:41,359 --> 00:19:44,000 Speaker 3: I have the whole thing on video, and I really 385 00:19:44,040 --> 00:19:46,399 Speaker 3: hate that they do that to me. I ended up 386 00:19:46,440 --> 00:19:49,400 Speaker 3: staying with my cousin's girlfriend that night at her apartment. 387 00:19:50,080 --> 00:19:53,639 Speaker 3: Then my dad started texting me almost non stop for 388 00:19:53,680 --> 00:19:57,120 Speaker 3: the next five minutes about insurance things and how they 389 00:19:57,160 --> 00:19:59,760 Speaker 3: missed me back home, how it was good to see me, 390 00:20:00,119 --> 00:20:02,480 Speaker 3: and that they hoped I was doing well and that 391 00:20:02,560 --> 00:20:05,719 Speaker 3: I always have a home with them. So to finish 392 00:20:05,760 --> 00:20:08,480 Speaker 3: off this update, I'm going to rapid fire what's been 393 00:20:08,520 --> 00:20:11,240 Speaker 3: going on since then. I went back to my aunt's 394 00:20:11,240 --> 00:20:13,399 Speaker 3: house to go through all my things and see how 395 00:20:13,400 --> 00:20:15,800 Speaker 3: I could fit it all in my car. I did 396 00:20:15,840 --> 00:20:18,760 Speaker 3: a dang good job fitting all that in there. I 397 00:20:18,840 --> 00:20:21,600 Speaker 3: stayed with my boyfriend for another week to be closer 398 00:20:21,640 --> 00:20:24,679 Speaker 3: to work, and told him about my original post. He 399 00:20:24,800 --> 00:20:27,719 Speaker 3: agreed with a lot of your suggestions, but said I 400 00:20:27,840 --> 00:20:30,119 Speaker 3: need to take all comments with a grain of salt, 401 00:20:30,400 --> 00:20:32,879 Speaker 3: because something that works for me might not work for 402 00:20:32,920 --> 00:20:36,760 Speaker 3: someone else, and vice versa. I ended up moving in 403 00:20:36,800 --> 00:20:40,880 Speaker 3: with my grandparents temporarily and had my mail transferred over there. 404 00:20:41,520 --> 00:20:44,280 Speaker 3: After moving in, I sat down with my parents and 405 00:20:44,359 --> 00:20:47,000 Speaker 3: had a real talk with them. I told them that 406 00:20:47,040 --> 00:20:49,240 Speaker 3: what they did was wrong, that I am not a 407 00:20:49,359 --> 00:20:52,560 Speaker 3: child and they had absolutely no reason to treat me 408 00:20:52,640 --> 00:20:55,320 Speaker 3: the way they did. They shouldn't have forced their way 409 00:20:55,359 --> 00:20:58,200 Speaker 3: into my bedroom to argue with me, and they should 410 00:20:58,200 --> 00:21:01,480 Speaker 3: have just let me rest like I needed. I explained 411 00:21:01,480 --> 00:21:03,760 Speaker 3: that I was sick and didn't want to see anyone. 412 00:21:04,359 --> 00:21:06,520 Speaker 3: I then told them that they have been doing this 413 00:21:06,720 --> 00:21:09,560 Speaker 3: for years and they need to understand that it's just 414 00:21:09,680 --> 00:21:12,600 Speaker 3: not going to work that way anymore, and that they 415 00:21:12,680 --> 00:21:14,960 Speaker 3: need to be okay with the fact that I'm trying 416 00:21:15,000 --> 00:21:17,240 Speaker 3: to grow up and they are trying to hold me back. 417 00:21:18,400 --> 00:21:20,879 Speaker 3: They agreed and said they were sorry if I felt 418 00:21:20,880 --> 00:21:23,800 Speaker 3: that way. They can see where I'm coming from and 419 00:21:23,960 --> 00:21:27,040 Speaker 3: they shouldn't have acted that way. There were some things 420 00:21:27,080 --> 00:21:29,560 Speaker 3: said that we agreed on and some things we didn't 421 00:21:29,560 --> 00:21:33,560 Speaker 3: agree on in the moment we've since revisited since we're 422 00:21:33,600 --> 00:21:37,400 Speaker 3: on speaking terms now. Regardless, they said I should give 423 00:21:37,520 --> 00:21:39,840 Speaker 3: some thought about where I'm going to be staying so 424 00:21:39,880 --> 00:21:42,600 Speaker 3: I can get to work on time. I talked to 425 00:21:42,640 --> 00:21:45,359 Speaker 3: my younger brother about what he had sent me, read 426 00:21:45,359 --> 00:21:48,080 Speaker 3: the text to my parents, and they actually told him 427 00:21:48,119 --> 00:21:50,800 Speaker 3: that he needed to apologize because he had no right 428 00:21:50,840 --> 00:21:53,600 Speaker 3: to be saying that to me. He tried fighting back 429 00:21:53,640 --> 00:21:56,840 Speaker 3: with but it's true, she needs a day's notice, and 430 00:21:56,920 --> 00:21:59,080 Speaker 3: my dad looked up at him and said, yeah, to 431 00:21:59,160 --> 00:22:02,359 Speaker 3: show up at the house. She doesn't need any days 432 00:22:02,400 --> 00:22:05,920 Speaker 3: notice to ask about mail. My brother was like, oops, 433 00:22:06,800 --> 00:22:09,399 Speaker 3: so yeah, we apologize to each other and kind of 434 00:22:09,480 --> 00:22:12,119 Speaker 3: left it at that. We still don't talk much, but 435 00:22:12,240 --> 00:22:13,159 Speaker 3: we never really have. 436 00:22:14,359 --> 00:22:14,760 Speaker 4: I don't know. 437 00:22:14,800 --> 00:22:18,040 Speaker 5: I think yeah, just as it seems like a bad 438 00:22:18,080 --> 00:22:21,680 Speaker 5: relationship with for all of you guys, and I think 439 00:22:21,680 --> 00:22:22,920 Speaker 5: it'll I. 440 00:22:22,840 --> 00:22:23,520 Speaker 3: Think it will. 441 00:22:24,760 --> 00:22:27,120 Speaker 5: If it were going to improve, it would it will 442 00:22:27,160 --> 00:22:29,480 Speaker 5: do that when you guys are no longer living together. 443 00:22:29,880 --> 00:22:32,240 Speaker 3: I think that moving out could still be a really 444 00:22:32,320 --> 00:22:36,159 Speaker 3: good option. I'm a little confused if you can afford 445 00:22:36,200 --> 00:22:38,920 Speaker 3: it or not. If you're having to think, maybe sell 446 00:22:38,960 --> 00:22:42,239 Speaker 3: your boyfriend and aunt. I thought that was temporary though, 447 00:22:42,280 --> 00:22:43,760 Speaker 3: because she was looking at apartments. 448 00:22:44,040 --> 00:22:45,760 Speaker 4: We'll probably temporary until she can't afford it. 449 00:22:45,840 --> 00:22:48,760 Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, yeah, so as long as you have somewhere 450 00:22:48,800 --> 00:22:52,880 Speaker 5: to be. Yeah, but definitely saying your parents, I still 451 00:22:53,160 --> 00:22:58,680 Speaker 5: whole good idea strong move out. Yes, agreed, clearly unhealthy 452 00:22:58,800 --> 00:22:59,480 Speaker 5: situation there. 453 00:22:59,560 --> 00:23:01,880 Speaker 3: I got sick again since I didn't finish the first 454 00:23:01,960 --> 00:23:05,080 Speaker 3: round of antibiotics plot twist, it was strap the doctor 455 00:23:05,119 --> 00:23:08,240 Speaker 3: gave me something different since the amoxicillin was hurting my 456 00:23:08,320 --> 00:23:11,159 Speaker 3: stomach and not having the same effect this time around. 457 00:23:11,800 --> 00:23:14,119 Speaker 3: I saw my boyfriend again for the first time in 458 00:23:14,160 --> 00:23:17,119 Speaker 3: a week and spent the night at his house. We 459 00:23:17,280 --> 00:23:20,040 Speaker 3: ended up playing animal crossing all night. I did a 460 00:23:20,040 --> 00:23:23,600 Speaker 3: lot of homework and regular work. Being sick doesn't mean 461 00:23:23,640 --> 00:23:24,400 Speaker 3: the grind. 462 00:23:24,160 --> 00:23:26,399 Speaker 5: Stop, except I will say, not nice because you should 463 00:23:26,400 --> 00:23:27,439 Speaker 5: be resting, right. 464 00:23:27,480 --> 00:23:29,119 Speaker 3: I thought the whole thing was like, can't do stuff 465 00:23:29,119 --> 00:23:33,120 Speaker 3: because we're resting. Yeah, hm, I get that school work. 466 00:23:33,200 --> 00:23:35,280 Speaker 3: But even if I missed a day or two for 467 00:23:35,440 --> 00:23:37,560 Speaker 3: actual work and had to leave early, the rest of 468 00:23:37,600 --> 00:23:40,359 Speaker 3: the time, I pushed through as best I could, and 469 00:23:40,440 --> 00:23:44,119 Speaker 3: I'm proud of myself for that. So yeah, that's about 470 00:23:44,160 --> 00:23:46,360 Speaker 3: it for now. I was supposed to hear back from 471 00:23:46,359 --> 00:23:49,560 Speaker 3: a possible apartment. Never did, so I'm taking the l 472 00:23:49,600 --> 00:23:52,520 Speaker 3: on that call them. That's the end of that story. 473 00:23:53,359 --> 00:23:56,280 Speaker 5: I refuse to invite my uncle to my wedding. Now 474 00:23:56,320 --> 00:23:57,560 Speaker 5: my family's furious. 475 00:23:57,800 --> 00:23:59,000 Speaker 3: Why don't we want them there? 476 00:23:59,080 --> 00:24:02,360 Speaker 5: My father has an identical twin brother who quite literally 477 00:24:02,400 --> 00:24:04,919 Speaker 5: has torn our family to pieces. They both worked in 478 00:24:04,960 --> 00:24:07,919 Speaker 5: a family business together owned by their father, and my 479 00:24:08,000 --> 00:24:11,119 Speaker 5: father allowed his twin to steal from the business accounts 480 00:24:11,160 --> 00:24:15,119 Speaker 5: to buy his wife luxury clothes and fund their lifestyle 481 00:24:15,160 --> 00:24:17,520 Speaker 5: without her having to work. My father allowed his twin 482 00:24:17,600 --> 00:24:20,399 Speaker 5: and his wife to steal from his personal accounts, and 483 00:24:20,440 --> 00:24:22,560 Speaker 5: he would then tell my mother it was her spending 484 00:24:22,640 --> 00:24:24,880 Speaker 5: keeping them in debt when on paper they had more 485 00:24:24,920 --> 00:24:26,960 Speaker 5: than enough money coming in. By the way, this comes 486 00:24:26,960 --> 00:24:29,639 Speaker 5: from expurely happiness. And if you want to smit your 487 00:24:29,640 --> 00:24:32,080 Speaker 5: own stories, go to the r slash Okay storytime severed it. 488 00:24:32,200 --> 00:24:33,480 Speaker 5: I'm Sophia, I'm. 489 00:24:33,320 --> 00:24:36,440 Speaker 3: Carly, and I'm Dakota, and we're here to give good advice. 490 00:24:36,440 --> 00:24:37,920 Speaker 4: Goofly, But we don't have all the answers. 491 00:24:37,960 --> 00:24:39,600 Speaker 5: We only know what we'd do, So let us know 492 00:24:39,600 --> 00:24:41,600 Speaker 5: what you would do in the comments. And now Pie 493 00:24:41,640 --> 00:24:44,320 Speaker 5: says this came to a head about ten years ago 494 00:24:44,760 --> 00:24:47,439 Speaker 5: when my father's twin sent his wife to perform a 495 00:24:47,640 --> 00:24:51,800 Speaker 5: spicy related favor with their father to get the business 496 00:24:51,840 --> 00:24:54,720 Speaker 5: signed fully into his own name, and the same day, 497 00:24:54,840 --> 00:24:58,000 Speaker 5: my dad's twin told my father he was out of 498 00:24:58,040 --> 00:25:01,560 Speaker 5: the business. My father has no no education or income 499 00:25:01,680 --> 00:25:04,720 Speaker 5: outside of the business. My mother made her own business 500 00:25:04,720 --> 00:25:07,560 Speaker 5: and took mercy on him, putting my father's name on 501 00:25:07,600 --> 00:25:10,399 Speaker 5: her business and giving him an income. Because of this, 502 00:25:10,560 --> 00:25:13,440 Speaker 5: my father forgave his twin within only a year or 503 00:25:13,480 --> 00:25:17,320 Speaker 5: two and became best buddies again. My dad's twin would 504 00:25:17,359 --> 00:25:20,320 Speaker 5: then began to tell my dad that his wife, my mother, 505 00:25:20,640 --> 00:25:23,760 Speaker 5: was a horrible witch, and my aunts told my mom 506 00:25:23,760 --> 00:25:26,240 Speaker 5: that my dad's twin had said he wanted to destroy 507 00:25:26,320 --> 00:25:30,040 Speaker 5: their marriage. While my granny was bedridden, my dad's twins 508 00:25:30,040 --> 00:25:33,840 Speaker 5: stole every penny she had and used her credit cards 509 00:25:33,880 --> 00:25:36,560 Speaker 5: to buy groceries for different women in hopes of sleeping 510 00:25:36,560 --> 00:25:38,800 Speaker 5: with them. He also threw a loud party with these 511 00:25:38,800 --> 00:25:41,400 Speaker 5: women late into the night in my granny's house as 512 00:25:41,440 --> 00:25:45,119 Speaker 5: she screamed with confusion. My sister visited while this happened, 513 00:25:45,160 --> 00:25:47,520 Speaker 5: and my dad's twins screamed in her face to not 514 00:25:47,600 --> 00:25:50,800 Speaker 5: tell anyone about what happened. My dad's twin has told 515 00:25:50,840 --> 00:25:53,800 Speaker 5: my dad how much he personally hates me, calling me 516 00:25:53,840 --> 00:25:57,000 Speaker 5: a disgusting, mean person, and has told my dad how 517 00:25:57,040 --> 00:26:00,800 Speaker 5: my low functioning disabled brother is a disgrace and defective. 518 00:26:02,560 --> 00:26:05,200 Speaker 5: All my aunts hate my dad's twin, that makes sense, 519 00:26:05,840 --> 00:26:08,200 Speaker 5: and he tried to frame them for stealing the money 520 00:26:08,200 --> 00:26:11,199 Speaker 5: from my granny, which was proven to be false. On 521 00:26:11,240 --> 00:26:14,440 Speaker 5: top of this, my dad's twin's daughter made up lies 522 00:26:14,480 --> 00:26:16,479 Speaker 5: about me to get me in trouble as a child 523 00:26:17,160 --> 00:26:21,719 Speaker 5: like fatherlike daughter, constantly going to my parents and claiming 524 00:26:21,760 --> 00:26:24,720 Speaker 5: I was doing hard substances when I've never so much 525 00:26:24,920 --> 00:26:28,520 Speaker 5: smoked a cigarette. A few years ago, I tried to 526 00:26:28,560 --> 00:26:31,159 Speaker 5: rekindle the friendship with his sons, but after a few weeks, 527 00:26:31,560 --> 00:26:34,320 Speaker 5: my dad's twin found out and told them to block me, 528 00:26:34,880 --> 00:26:37,720 Speaker 5: leaving me with no connections to my extended family. On 529 00:26:37,760 --> 00:26:41,399 Speaker 5: that side, my dad's twin and his wife banned me 530 00:26:41,480 --> 00:26:44,040 Speaker 5: from seeing my best friend their son when I was 531 00:26:44,080 --> 00:26:47,760 Speaker 5: only ten, to punish my parents for confronting them about 532 00:26:47,760 --> 00:26:48,520 Speaker 5: stealing money. 533 00:26:49,160 --> 00:26:51,640 Speaker 4: This is not even half of everything my dad's twin 534 00:26:51,680 --> 00:26:54,000 Speaker 4: has done to me and my family. It's endless. 535 00:26:54,760 --> 00:26:57,320 Speaker 5: My sister invited him to her own wedding two years ago, 536 00:26:57,840 --> 00:27:00,800 Speaker 5: and during the ceremony in the church pews, my dad's 537 00:27:00,840 --> 00:27:03,280 Speaker 5: twin began to talk to women around him about how 538 00:27:03,280 --> 00:27:06,800 Speaker 5: he was looking for a girl because he's divorcing his wife. 539 00:27:06,960 --> 00:27:10,600 Speaker 5: Even though he isn't divorced. I recently got engaged and 540 00:27:10,640 --> 00:27:14,240 Speaker 5: my parents asked me who I'm inviting. I mentioned that 541 00:27:14,280 --> 00:27:17,439 Speaker 5: my dad's twin and his family are not welcome. My 542 00:27:17,520 --> 00:27:20,600 Speaker 5: father is devastated and he just walked out of the 543 00:27:20,680 --> 00:27:24,160 Speaker 5: room in silence. In my culture, the bride's father always 544 00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:27,640 Speaker 5: pays for the wedding, and now he's refusing. My mother 545 00:27:27,760 --> 00:27:30,160 Speaker 5: is pressuring me to invite my uncle for the sake 546 00:27:30,200 --> 00:27:33,159 Speaker 5: of the family, as my father won't go if his 547 00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:34,080 Speaker 5: twin doesn't go. 548 00:27:34,440 --> 00:27:35,760 Speaker 4: I feel like I'm going crazy. 549 00:27:36,520 --> 00:27:38,800 Speaker 5: I've already told my parents we will pay for our 550 00:27:38,840 --> 00:27:41,840 Speaker 5: wedding if it means not having my dad's twin, but 551 00:27:41,920 --> 00:27:44,160 Speaker 5: that means they get no say at all in any 552 00:27:44,200 --> 00:27:46,920 Speaker 5: part of it. My mother says I'm just making life 553 00:27:46,960 --> 00:27:49,320 Speaker 5: hard for myself and that I need to think of 554 00:27:49,359 --> 00:27:51,919 Speaker 5: her and my siblings and do what I have to 555 00:27:52,080 --> 00:27:55,040 Speaker 5: for a normal wedding. Am I the a hole? And 556 00:27:55,200 --> 00:27:58,119 Speaker 5: there are some comments it will definitely not be a 557 00:27:58,160 --> 00:28:00,280 Speaker 5: normal wedding if you let the uncle right. 558 00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:04,879 Speaker 3: I don't know why anyone's even forcing this upon you. 559 00:28:04,960 --> 00:28:06,000 Speaker 3: This is crazy. 560 00:28:06,480 --> 00:28:09,000 Speaker 5: No, I think it's a terrible idea to have this 561 00:28:09,040 --> 00:28:09,760 Speaker 5: guy come. 562 00:28:09,720 --> 00:28:12,240 Speaker 3: Are we sure that your dad hasn't switched with his 563 00:28:12,320 --> 00:28:15,360 Speaker 3: evil twin and this isn't the twin being like you? 564 00:28:15,359 --> 00:28:18,760 Speaker 3: You should you should meet him to your wedding. 565 00:28:18,880 --> 00:28:19,200 Speaker 5: Yes. 566 00:28:19,480 --> 00:28:22,439 Speaker 6: Yeah, I don't think any of us anticipated at the 567 00:28:22,480 --> 00:28:26,080 Speaker 6: beginning of this story that we'd actually have evil twins. 568 00:28:25,680 --> 00:28:27,680 Speaker 3: Scenarios literally at all. 569 00:28:28,440 --> 00:28:33,280 Speaker 6: That's funny, weird uncle nah e twin evil identical twins. 570 00:28:33,320 --> 00:28:37,840 Speaker 5: Evil. Comment one says, do not allow these lunatics in. 571 00:28:38,520 --> 00:28:41,640 Speaker 5: Have their pictures and security to keep them out. If 572 00:28:41,760 --> 00:28:45,200 Speaker 5: Dad refuses to pay or attend, that's on them. 573 00:28:45,240 --> 00:28:46,120 Speaker 3: This is your. 574 00:28:45,960 --> 00:28:49,200 Speaker 5: Wedding, make it joyful and keep all the toxic a 575 00:28:49,400 --> 00:28:53,760 Speaker 5: holary away. Common two says dad. Mom, you could use 576 00:28:53,840 --> 00:28:56,400 Speaker 5: to be dormats to this terrible person. It's your life, 577 00:28:56,640 --> 00:28:59,760 Speaker 5: but I won't subject myself to the same treatment. Consider 578 00:28:59,800 --> 00:29:02,280 Speaker 5: your your self lucky to be invited, since your brother 579 00:29:02,320 --> 00:29:05,200 Speaker 5: has done awful things to me, your child. 580 00:29:04,920 --> 00:29:07,120 Speaker 4: Whom you're supposed to protect. 581 00:29:07,760 --> 00:29:11,000 Speaker 5: But you're too much of a spineless blobfish you actually 582 00:29:11,400 --> 00:29:14,320 Speaker 5: do and Opie responds, I said something similar to this 583 00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:17,320 Speaker 5: to my mom. She said that my father. 584 00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:20,520 Speaker 3: Is mentally not right and it's on me to be the. 585 00:29:20,440 --> 00:29:23,280 Speaker 5: Picture one here, AKA let my father have his way 586 00:29:23,360 --> 00:29:26,240 Speaker 5: and be there and be there with his kid's brother. 587 00:29:27,800 --> 00:29:31,000 Speaker 5: Reply says no, No, it is absolutely not incumbent upon 588 00:29:31,080 --> 00:29:34,400 Speaker 5: you to keep the peace. Everything is convenient for everyone 589 00:29:34,400 --> 00:29:37,160 Speaker 5: else when they aren't having to do the peacekeeping with 590 00:29:37,280 --> 00:29:41,040 Speaker 5: family like this, who needs enemies. Not sure where you 591 00:29:41,040 --> 00:29:42,960 Speaker 5: are in the world, but I would actually recommend just 592 00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:46,040 Speaker 5: going to a courthouse and getting married in Las Vegas. 593 00:29:46,600 --> 00:29:48,800 Speaker 4: You do not need that ache of trying. 594 00:29:48,480 --> 00:29:50,560 Speaker 5: To people please a bunch of people who sound like 595 00:29:50,560 --> 00:29:54,520 Speaker 5: they would trip you in as zombie apocalypse, Opie says, 596 00:29:54,560 --> 00:29:56,760 Speaker 5: I want a courthouse wedding, but my fiance does not. 597 00:29:57,400 --> 00:29:59,680 Speaker 5: I try to explain to my fiance what a wedding 598 00:29:59,680 --> 00:30:03,600 Speaker 5: with me would involve because of my family, and he 599 00:30:03,680 --> 00:30:06,400 Speaker 5: said he can't imagine not having a wedding, which I 600 00:30:06,440 --> 00:30:09,040 Speaker 5: do understand as well as it's important to some people. 601 00:30:09,680 --> 00:30:12,480 Speaker 5: We'll just end up funding our own smaller wedding. We'll 602 00:30:12,520 --> 00:30:15,400 Speaker 5: just end up funding our own smaller wedding, and no 603 00:30:15,440 --> 00:30:17,280 Speaker 5: one from my family will be there. I think that 604 00:30:17,320 --> 00:30:18,959 Speaker 5: maybe the best idea. 605 00:30:19,080 --> 00:30:21,040 Speaker 3: It's s Dakota's favorite, and there is an. 606 00:30:20,960 --> 00:30:24,520 Speaker 6: Updates secret wedding. Secret secret wedding, don't have to deal 607 00:30:24,560 --> 00:30:25,720 Speaker 6: with any of your family. 608 00:30:25,520 --> 00:30:26,960 Speaker 3: Secret wedding, Yeah, exactly. 609 00:30:27,320 --> 00:30:29,720 Speaker 6: I think there was I'm not sure what culturally is 610 00:30:29,760 --> 00:30:32,000 Speaker 6: going on here, but I think there was some mention 611 00:30:32,200 --> 00:30:37,040 Speaker 6: of like, because the father usually pays, or I don't know, 612 00:30:37,200 --> 00:30:37,760 Speaker 6: it pays. 613 00:30:38,080 --> 00:30:38,240 Speaker 3: Yeah. 614 00:30:38,280 --> 00:30:42,840 Speaker 6: I'm not sure exactly what future ramifications having a secret 615 00:30:42,840 --> 00:30:46,360 Speaker 6: wedding will hold. However, if it means that you don't 616 00:30:46,360 --> 00:30:48,320 Speaker 6: have to interact with any of these people anymore, I 617 00:30:48,320 --> 00:30:49,480 Speaker 6: think that's probably a good thing. 618 00:30:49,720 --> 00:30:49,960 Speaker 8: Yeah. 619 00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:51,840 Speaker 3: It sounded like the extent of it was just they'll 620 00:30:51,880 --> 00:30:52,400 Speaker 3: have to pay. 621 00:30:52,560 --> 00:30:54,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, And it seems also like they're able to pay. 622 00:30:54,880 --> 00:30:55,920 Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, pay. 623 00:30:55,840 --> 00:30:58,400 Speaker 5: Smaller weddings, but you're gonna have a smaller wedding because 624 00:30:58,400 --> 00:30:59,880 Speaker 5: you're not inviting a bunch of your family. 625 00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:02,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, so win win. Yeah. 626 00:31:02,600 --> 00:31:03,800 Speaker 2: I just yeah, I just met. 627 00:31:03,840 --> 00:31:06,560 Speaker 6: Like what happens after they find out at the wedding 628 00:31:06,640 --> 00:31:07,600 Speaker 6: and they weren't invited? 629 00:31:07,720 --> 00:31:07,920 Speaker 2: You know? 630 00:31:08,120 --> 00:31:10,640 Speaker 6: But again, I think I don't think you want to 631 00:31:10,680 --> 00:31:12,200 Speaker 6: deal with any of these people anyway. 632 00:31:12,320 --> 00:31:12,680 Speaker 4: Update. 633 00:31:12,840 --> 00:31:15,800 Speaker 5: My fiance and I spoke with my parents today. We 634 00:31:15,920 --> 00:31:19,680 Speaker 5: explained it's not negotiable. My father's twin is not invited, 635 00:31:20,080 --> 00:31:22,800 Speaker 5: and my father will also be uninvited if he doubles 636 00:31:22,840 --> 00:31:26,560 Speaker 5: down on this. He started screaming, ended up running out 637 00:31:26,560 --> 00:31:30,280 Speaker 5: and slammed the door, telling me to f off and 638 00:31:30,280 --> 00:31:32,320 Speaker 5: that he doesn't give an f about my wedding. After 639 00:31:32,360 --> 00:31:34,560 Speaker 5: he left, my mother told me, I'm ruining my wedding 640 00:31:34,640 --> 00:31:38,280 Speaker 5: day over my father's twin, and that for my own happiness, 641 00:31:38,400 --> 00:31:40,800 Speaker 5: I should just invite him. My fiance said he was 642 00:31:40,880 --> 00:31:43,600 Speaker 5: concerned for the welfare of his female relatives if my 643 00:31:43,720 --> 00:31:46,400 Speaker 5: uncle did turn up, and that was enough for us 644 00:31:46,440 --> 00:31:49,160 Speaker 5: to not invite him. We explained we are willing to 645 00:31:49,240 --> 00:31:52,520 Speaker 5: have our own wedding, and if my father and mother 646 00:31:52,680 --> 00:31:55,520 Speaker 5: continue to fight for the twin to attend, they will 647 00:31:55,520 --> 00:31:59,200 Speaker 5: also be uninvited. My mother kept trying to tell me 648 00:31:59,240 --> 00:32:04,240 Speaker 5: I'm ruining my by causing this drama. Then my father returned. 649 00:32:04,520 --> 00:32:08,560 Speaker 5: He insisted his twin must attend the wedding. There was 650 00:32:08,600 --> 00:32:11,120 Speaker 5: some back and forth when my father suggested he would 651 00:32:11,160 --> 00:32:14,480 Speaker 5: actually tolerate his twin being banned from the wedding if 652 00:32:14,480 --> 00:32:17,000 Speaker 5: we would also consider banning another brother of his. 653 00:32:17,080 --> 00:32:19,200 Speaker 3: He's like, oh right, Ferry, you only want to ban 654 00:32:19,400 --> 00:32:20,080 Speaker 3: one of them. 655 00:32:20,160 --> 00:32:22,680 Speaker 5: You could have the twin if you also take Jerry. 656 00:32:22,960 --> 00:32:26,040 Speaker 5: I hate Jerry. He's the worst brother. I'll miss my twin, 657 00:32:26,520 --> 00:32:29,040 Speaker 5: but you can take Jerry. My father has another brother 658 00:32:29,080 --> 00:32:32,360 Speaker 5: who informed my mother he saw my father coming and 659 00:32:32,440 --> 00:32:35,800 Speaker 5: going from the house of a single neighborhood divorced woman 660 00:32:35,960 --> 00:32:39,560 Speaker 5: at strange times. My father absolutely hates this other brother. 661 00:32:39,680 --> 00:32:42,600 Speaker 5: I actually also disliked this uncle. He told my father 662 00:32:42,680 --> 00:32:46,000 Speaker 5: he didn't want me and my siblings being near his 663 00:32:46,160 --> 00:32:49,080 Speaker 5: daughters when we were all children, and a letter from 664 00:32:49,200 --> 00:32:52,800 Speaker 5: this uncle's ex best friend revealed how we slept with 665 00:32:52,880 --> 00:32:56,800 Speaker 5: different women as his wife was passing away, buying them 666 00:32:56,800 --> 00:32:59,480 Speaker 5: boos in exchange for spicy sleep. Here that I could 667 00:32:59,560 --> 00:33:01,720 Speaker 5: end all the time drama with my father by also 668 00:33:01,920 --> 00:33:05,280 Speaker 5: banning my cheating uncle. I was quick to agree, but 669 00:33:05,360 --> 00:33:09,040 Speaker 5: it opened another can of worms. That uncle's wife passed 670 00:33:09,080 --> 00:33:12,240 Speaker 5: away about six months ago. From the previously mentioned care, 671 00:33:13,040 --> 00:33:15,800 Speaker 5: this uncle has also been pretty friendly to my mother. 672 00:33:16,320 --> 00:33:18,840 Speaker 5: These two facts caused my mother to go to war 673 00:33:18,880 --> 00:33:21,959 Speaker 5: to get the uncle invited to the wedding. What stop, 674 00:33:22,480 --> 00:33:24,480 Speaker 5: why stop. 675 00:33:24,320 --> 00:33:27,760 Speaker 6: Dating on his wife while she had kids? 676 00:33:28,280 --> 00:33:30,440 Speaker 3: Will cheat you wedding does? 677 00:33:30,560 --> 00:33:33,200 Speaker 5: Yet again, I am ruining my wedding by not inviting 678 00:33:33,280 --> 00:33:36,240 Speaker 5: both of these men. My father is perfectly happy with 679 00:33:36,320 --> 00:33:38,600 Speaker 5: this arrangement. It's now my mother who is fighting me, 680 00:33:39,040 --> 00:33:41,520 Speaker 5: telling me it's immoral not to invite my other uncle 681 00:33:41,600 --> 00:33:44,000 Speaker 5: to my wedding because he's always been nice to her 682 00:33:44,040 --> 00:33:45,840 Speaker 5: and his wife recently passed away. 683 00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:47,560 Speaker 7: His wife he cheated on? 684 00:33:47,920 --> 00:33:49,160 Speaker 3: Did he cheat with your mom? 685 00:33:49,360 --> 00:33:51,600 Speaker 5: There is a little bit left to this story. But 686 00:33:51,880 --> 00:33:54,600 Speaker 5: wow ee, wow, it seems like your dad's cool with 687 00:33:54,680 --> 00:33:56,920 Speaker 5: this now. He's like, yeah, then you got rid of 688 00:33:56,960 --> 00:33:57,520 Speaker 5: my other brother. 689 00:33:58,000 --> 00:33:59,520 Speaker 3: She will pay for it again now too. 690 00:33:59,720 --> 00:34:03,360 Speaker 5: Yeah, a potentially, But your mom's kind of stinker. 691 00:34:03,720 --> 00:34:06,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think the mother likes the uncle a little 692 00:34:06,400 --> 00:34:06,880 Speaker 3: too much. 693 00:34:07,040 --> 00:34:10,200 Speaker 5: But a little too much, I would agree. Yeah, but 694 00:34:10,239 --> 00:34:11,960 Speaker 5: we got a little bit left this story. My mother 695 00:34:12,080 --> 00:34:14,800 Speaker 5: keeps telling me, I can't believe I'd be so agreeable 696 00:34:14,840 --> 00:34:18,360 Speaker 5: and quick to please my father. She says my wedding 697 00:34:18,440 --> 00:34:21,000 Speaker 5: is just a day and not worth turning into so 698 00:34:21,120 --> 00:34:24,120 Speaker 5: much trauma, and that both uncles needed to be invited. 699 00:34:24,680 --> 00:34:26,560 Speaker 5: My father is the one who would be paying for 700 00:34:26,640 --> 00:34:29,360 Speaker 5: the wedding, but my mother will be deeply involved in 701 00:34:29,360 --> 00:34:32,840 Speaker 5: the planning process and is going to make every step 702 00:34:32,840 --> 00:34:35,880 Speaker 5: of the way. Heck, she constantly guilt trips me about 703 00:34:35,880 --> 00:34:38,280 Speaker 5: how I could do this to a man whose wife 704 00:34:38,480 --> 00:34:42,040 Speaker 5: just passed away, who he left every night to cheat 705 00:34:42,040 --> 00:34:45,279 Speaker 5: on with different women, and how I've sold myself out 706 00:34:45,320 --> 00:34:48,640 Speaker 5: for a wedding to be paid for. I tried to explain, 707 00:34:48,719 --> 00:34:51,160 Speaker 5: I truly do not have any love for this uncle either, 708 00:34:51,719 --> 00:34:54,440 Speaker 5: and him being banned from the wedding means nothing to me. 709 00:34:54,880 --> 00:34:56,919 Speaker 5: I won't be thinking about him on my wedding day. 710 00:34:57,520 --> 00:35:00,160 Speaker 5: The ride never ends. And that is the end of 711 00:35:00,200 --> 00:35:00,680 Speaker 5: that story. 712 00:35:00,680 --> 00:35:01,359 Speaker 4: Folks. 713 00:35:01,920 --> 00:35:03,360 Speaker 2: Hey, y'all, it's John og Host here. 714 00:35:03,440 --> 00:35:04,840 Speaker 1: We're gonna get back to the stories, but here's a 715 00:35:04,880 --> 00:35:06,719 Speaker 1: quick three minute break from as for more sponsors. 716 00:35:07,080 --> 00:35:10,279 Speaker 6: I spent months writing my ex a letter, and now 717 00:35:10,320 --> 00:35:11,719 Speaker 6: she wants to read it. 718 00:35:11,880 --> 00:35:13,200 Speaker 7: That is what you do with letters. 719 00:35:13,560 --> 00:35:16,840 Speaker 6: So I, thirty male, wrote a letter to my ex 720 00:35:16,920 --> 00:35:20,600 Speaker 6: twenty five female out of pure love and compassion for 721 00:35:20,760 --> 00:35:24,239 Speaker 6: my own unset emotions and feelings towards her, and was 722 00:35:24,280 --> 00:35:26,440 Speaker 6: never planning on giving the letter to her in the 723 00:35:26,480 --> 00:35:28,719 Speaker 6: first place. I just used the letter to write my 724 00:35:28,840 --> 00:35:32,080 Speaker 6: emotions and feelings on paper, just for my own sanity 725 00:35:32,160 --> 00:35:35,480 Speaker 6: and closure. The letter wasn't written as a love bomb, 726 00:35:35,600 --> 00:35:37,600 Speaker 6: nor was it a letter to get her back. The 727 00:35:37,680 --> 00:35:40,120 Speaker 6: letter wasn't written out of anger or blame, but more 728 00:35:40,160 --> 00:35:44,640 Speaker 6: of an explanation of my perspective, thoughts, and feelings in 729 00:35:44,680 --> 00:35:47,640 Speaker 6: a deeper way which I'd never been able to put 730 00:35:47,680 --> 00:35:50,680 Speaker 6: into words directly. Even though I wasn't planning on giving 731 00:35:50,680 --> 00:35:52,759 Speaker 6: the letter, I had a lot of moments where I 732 00:35:52,840 --> 00:35:55,400 Speaker 6: wanted to and my goal was to make her just 733 00:35:55,560 --> 00:35:59,600 Speaker 6: understand why I couldn't communicate in a way I always 734 00:35:59,640 --> 00:36:03,799 Speaker 6: wanted because I felt unheard for a long time. By 735 00:36:03,800 --> 00:36:06,880 Speaker 6: the way, this comes from user Johnny blay Is x 736 00:36:07,360 --> 00:36:09,200 Speaker 6: and if you want to submit your own stories, go 737 00:36:09,200 --> 00:36:12,200 Speaker 6: to the r slash Okay story time subrendit. I'm Dakota, 738 00:36:12,719 --> 00:36:16,319 Speaker 6: and I'm Riley, and I'm Keon, and we're here to 739 00:36:16,320 --> 00:36:20,240 Speaker 6: give good advice goofiy. But we haven't experienced all these situations. 740 00:36:20,280 --> 00:36:22,160 Speaker 6: We only know what we would do, So if you 741 00:36:22,280 --> 00:36:25,239 Speaker 6: do something different, let us know in the comments. As 742 00:36:25,280 --> 00:36:29,080 Speaker 6: op says, you see, there was no room for my 743 00:36:29,280 --> 00:36:32,799 Speaker 6: emotions and feelings, which eventually drove us apart from each other. 744 00:36:33,120 --> 00:36:37,120 Speaker 6: I've spent weeks on this letter and have many versions 745 00:36:37,160 --> 00:36:39,279 Speaker 6: of it. I've been working on it every day for 746 00:36:39,440 --> 00:36:43,040 Speaker 6: hours and hours until Saturday, the tenth of May. We 747 00:36:43,120 --> 00:36:46,920 Speaker 6: broke up on the twelfth of January twenty twenty five 748 00:36:47,080 --> 00:36:49,919 Speaker 6: after four and a half years, and it honestly broke 749 00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:53,439 Speaker 6: my heart due to our different communications styles. We both 750 00:36:53,560 --> 00:36:56,959 Speaker 6: quote ran out of battery when arguing or in a fight. 751 00:36:57,080 --> 00:36:59,960 Speaker 6: She always wanted to communicate through direct conflict and always 752 00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:05,320 Speaker 6: expressed herself with anger, fury, sadness, and other emotions yeah 753 00:37:05,360 --> 00:37:09,200 Speaker 6: maybe some positive ones, while I wanted to remain calm 754 00:37:09,800 --> 00:37:13,400 Speaker 6: and simply fix the problem, looking for a solution instead 755 00:37:13,400 --> 00:37:16,640 Speaker 6: of blindly screaming and blaming each other out of frustration 756 00:37:16,800 --> 00:37:19,720 Speaker 6: or anger. When I tried to express my feelings thus 757 00:37:19,920 --> 00:37:23,080 Speaker 6: finally decided to speak up, she got even more hurt 758 00:37:23,360 --> 00:37:27,200 Speaker 6: and angry. This resulted in an unhealthy relationship where I 759 00:37:27,200 --> 00:37:30,279 Speaker 6: felt unheard for a long time because I felt like 760 00:37:30,320 --> 00:37:32,879 Speaker 6: I was walking on eggshells. I'm not going into full 761 00:37:32,920 --> 00:37:35,840 Speaker 6: detail because that wouldn't add anything to the story I'm writing. 762 00:37:36,040 --> 00:37:38,520 Speaker 6: If you have questions, I can always answer them. A 763 00:37:38,560 --> 00:37:41,799 Speaker 6: couple of months after the breakup and no contact, I 764 00:37:41,840 --> 00:37:44,160 Speaker 6: felt like I had so many things left to say 765 00:37:44,280 --> 00:37:48,040 Speaker 6: because I had never truly expressed my deepest emotions towards her. 766 00:37:48,120 --> 00:37:50,520 Speaker 6: This was the end of February slash beginning of March. 767 00:37:50,880 --> 00:37:55,200 Speaker 6: I started writing the letter out of pure sadness, love, compassion, 768 00:37:55,280 --> 00:37:58,920 Speaker 6: and many other emotions. And I cried many days writing 769 00:37:58,960 --> 00:38:01,680 Speaker 6: the letter while I was looking at our countless pictures, 770 00:38:01,760 --> 00:38:05,160 Speaker 6: thinking about the beautiful moments we had together, and everything 771 00:38:05,160 --> 00:38:08,720 Speaker 6: came in hard reading the letter day after day, changing 772 00:38:08,760 --> 00:38:12,600 Speaker 6: it again and again from different words to different sentences. 773 00:38:12,719 --> 00:38:16,160 Speaker 6: It became a huge life project of three full papers 774 00:38:16,400 --> 00:38:20,120 Speaker 6: with all my feelings written in an emotional and poetic way. 775 00:38:20,480 --> 00:38:23,000 Speaker 6: I showed the final letter to some of my best 776 00:38:23,040 --> 00:38:26,400 Speaker 6: friends and they were overwhelmed by the depth and emotion 777 00:38:26,600 --> 00:38:28,840 Speaker 6: of the letter. But we'll get there in a moment, 778 00:38:29,080 --> 00:38:32,520 Speaker 6: I always thought I couldn't finish the letter because I 779 00:38:32,560 --> 00:38:35,120 Speaker 6: had so many things to say. It became the last 780 00:38:35,200 --> 00:38:38,319 Speaker 6: thing that would emotionally connect me to my ex and 781 00:38:38,400 --> 00:38:43,040 Speaker 6: what we had, reliving the moments again and again like 782 00:38:43,120 --> 00:38:47,200 Speaker 6: we said, and again, thinking about everything I should have 783 00:38:47,280 --> 00:38:50,880 Speaker 6: said instead of holding back. But then the most hurtful 784 00:38:50,880 --> 00:38:55,440 Speaker 6: thing happened that literally broke my heart and soul. On 785 00:38:55,560 --> 00:38:59,240 Speaker 6: May sixth, I showed up at the gym and saw 786 00:38:59,280 --> 00:39:02,400 Speaker 6: her working out out as well. Eventually she was talking 787 00:39:02,400 --> 00:39:06,160 Speaker 6: to this other guy and thought nothing of it. Why 788 00:39:06,640 --> 00:39:10,000 Speaker 6: until I saw them kissing and smiling at each other 789 00:39:10,040 --> 00:39:13,440 Speaker 6: at the same gym where we used to work out 790 00:39:13,520 --> 00:39:16,160 Speaker 6: for years and kiss each other as well, a place 791 00:39:16,200 --> 00:39:19,400 Speaker 6: where we had many intimate and funny moments together. She 792 00:39:19,480 --> 00:39:22,560 Speaker 6: kissed him like nothing happened. She kissed him like I 793 00:39:22,640 --> 00:39:26,440 Speaker 6: never even existed. My heart and my soul sank through 794 00:39:26,480 --> 00:39:28,960 Speaker 6: the floor. The feeling that I felt in that moment 795 00:39:29,040 --> 00:39:31,400 Speaker 6: is a feeling I can't explain to this day, but 796 00:39:31,520 --> 00:39:35,400 Speaker 6: I'll try. It felt like utter destruction and betrayal of 797 00:39:35,480 --> 00:39:38,640 Speaker 6: all of our memories, my love, feelings and hope I 798 00:39:38,680 --> 00:39:43,400 Speaker 6: still had for her. Anxiety, sadness, despair, darkness, pain, failure, 799 00:39:43,719 --> 00:39:45,959 Speaker 6: and everything you can feel hit me all at once. 800 00:39:46,120 --> 00:39:48,560 Speaker 6: I thought that I was going to throw up while 801 00:39:48,600 --> 00:39:51,359 Speaker 6: having a severe panic attack and scream from the pain. 802 00:39:51,600 --> 00:39:54,120 Speaker 6: I never had a panic attack in my life. That day, 803 00:39:54,520 --> 00:39:57,400 Speaker 6: something broken me. The guy left the gym and I 804 00:39:57,480 --> 00:40:00,319 Speaker 6: walked up to her. The first thing I asked is 805 00:40:00,360 --> 00:40:04,080 Speaker 6: if she was already seeing this guy when we were 806 00:40:04,120 --> 00:40:07,920 Speaker 6: having trouble in our relationship. She said that this wasn't 807 00:40:07,920 --> 00:40:10,239 Speaker 6: the case and that she could never do that to me. 808 00:40:10,560 --> 00:40:14,640 Speaker 6: She said she still has all our pictures, conversations, jewelry, 809 00:40:14,960 --> 00:40:18,880 Speaker 6: and that she still cares for me. Welp, okay. I 810 00:40:18,920 --> 00:40:22,200 Speaker 6: didn't know what to believe anymore. She asked me how 811 00:40:22,200 --> 00:40:24,799 Speaker 6: I'm holding up, and I told her that the combination 812 00:40:24,920 --> 00:40:28,680 Speaker 6: of the breakup and seeing her kiss another guy hit 813 00:40:28,719 --> 00:40:31,880 Speaker 6: me harder than I can imagine, and that I'm not okay. 814 00:40:32,200 --> 00:40:34,759 Speaker 6: I nearly started crying in the gym. She told me 815 00:40:34,840 --> 00:40:38,360 Speaker 6: that two months after the breakup, she quote unquote accidentally 816 00:40:38,840 --> 00:40:41,560 Speaker 6: ran into this guy and that she actually never intended 817 00:40:41,600 --> 00:40:44,640 Speaker 6: to date because she wanted to work on herself. After 818 00:40:44,800 --> 00:40:47,600 Speaker 6: chatting for a while, I said this to her, quote, 819 00:40:47,880 --> 00:40:50,680 Speaker 6: I honestly wish you the best, and I hope that 820 00:40:50,800 --> 00:40:53,440 Speaker 6: he can make you the happiest person and give you 821 00:40:53,560 --> 00:40:56,759 Speaker 6: what I couldn't. I wasn't mad, angry, or jealous, but 822 00:40:56,960 --> 00:41:00,960 Speaker 6: in pure grief. Like never before, I realized I lost 823 00:41:00,960 --> 00:41:04,160 Speaker 6: her for good now. She then asked me if there's 824 00:41:04,200 --> 00:41:06,600 Speaker 6: anything that she could do. I assumed to make him 825 00:41:06,760 --> 00:41:07,239 Speaker 6: feel a loa. 826 00:41:07,680 --> 00:41:08,560 Speaker 7: It's still the gym. 827 00:41:08,680 --> 00:41:11,440 Speaker 6: So I started to tell her about the letters I've 828 00:41:11,480 --> 00:41:14,880 Speaker 6: been writing, and she wanted to read them. So we 829 00:41:14,960 --> 00:41:17,520 Speaker 6: decided to meet up on Saturday, the tenth of May. 830 00:41:17,960 --> 00:41:18,200 Speaker 3: Whoo. 831 00:41:18,960 --> 00:41:22,160 Speaker 6: I came home that night and I cried like I've 832 00:41:22,360 --> 00:41:26,319 Speaker 6: never cried before. I didn't recognize myself like this at all. 833 00:41:26,719 --> 00:41:29,720 Speaker 6: Since the letter had many versions, which I've been working 834 00:41:29,760 --> 00:41:32,759 Speaker 6: on for weeks now, I had to decide in just 835 00:41:32,800 --> 00:41:35,080 Speaker 6: a couple of days which parts I wanted to give 836 00:41:35,160 --> 00:41:37,880 Speaker 6: and which parts I didn't want to give. I was 837 00:41:37,960 --> 00:41:41,880 Speaker 6: so nervous about that upcoming Saturday that I couldn't sleep, 838 00:41:42,239 --> 00:41:45,560 Speaker 6: I couldn't eat, and still saw that kiss in my thoughts, 839 00:41:45,640 --> 00:41:48,120 Speaker 6: and the thought of them being together broke me even more. 840 00:41:48,680 --> 00:41:51,160 Speaker 6: But I had to work full time, go to the gym, 841 00:41:51,200 --> 00:41:54,440 Speaker 6: and finish the letter for good. I didn't know how, 842 00:41:54,600 --> 00:41:57,719 Speaker 6: but I did all of it. Finally, it was Saturday, 843 00:41:57,760 --> 00:42:00,160 Speaker 6: and I'm still really nervous. I could barely eat, and 844 00:42:00,200 --> 00:42:03,600 Speaker 6: I've never felt this way. All scenarios ran through my head. 845 00:42:04,239 --> 00:42:07,319 Speaker 6: Is there still a chance? What impact will the letter have? 846 00:42:07,440 --> 00:42:10,560 Speaker 6: Will she receive it well or get mad again? Will 847 00:42:10,600 --> 00:42:13,319 Speaker 6: I ever get the love of my life back? Will 848 00:42:13,320 --> 00:42:16,200 Speaker 6: I ever get over her? What if I can't move 849 00:42:16,239 --> 00:42:19,680 Speaker 6: on from this? It was all or nothing today? Oh Pe, 850 00:42:20,120 --> 00:42:22,200 Speaker 6: You're gonna make me roll my eyes across the floor. Dude, 851 00:42:22,239 --> 00:42:23,000 Speaker 6: I swear to God. 852 00:42:22,960 --> 00:42:26,040 Speaker 2: Pee, you're acting like you're living in a a rom 853 00:42:26,120 --> 00:42:27,719 Speaker 2: com or something like that, Like. 854 00:42:28,040 --> 00:42:29,160 Speaker 7: And honey, where's the calm? 855 00:42:30,000 --> 00:42:31,720 Speaker 2: Whoa, we're in a rom com? 856 00:42:31,760 --> 00:42:32,600 Speaker 7: Where's the comedy? 857 00:42:32,800 --> 00:42:35,040 Speaker 8: Yeah, because I'm not laughing, I'm just dressed. 858 00:42:35,480 --> 00:42:38,480 Speaker 6: Yeah, my eye has been rolled. I knew in the 859 00:42:38,520 --> 00:42:40,880 Speaker 6: back of my head that this day could be the 860 00:42:40,920 --> 00:42:44,000 Speaker 6: beginning or the end, even though my feeling leaned towards 861 00:42:44,160 --> 00:42:46,520 Speaker 6: the fact that this is the end. To cut to 862 00:42:46,560 --> 00:42:48,839 Speaker 6: the chase, since you've been reading for so long. 863 00:42:48,960 --> 00:42:49,520 Speaker 2: Here it is. 864 00:42:49,800 --> 00:42:52,160 Speaker 6: I showed up at her doorstep and knocked on the door. 865 00:42:52,440 --> 00:42:55,400 Speaker 6: She saw me and smiled and opened the door. Hey, 866 00:42:55,640 --> 00:42:58,480 Speaker 6: she said, come in. She gave me a hug, and 867 00:42:58,520 --> 00:43:03,279 Speaker 6: we started having normal calms, just as adults do. And 868 00:43:03,400 --> 00:43:05,480 Speaker 6: I grabbed myself a drink and asked her if she 869 00:43:05,600 --> 00:43:07,960 Speaker 6: wanted one as well. We sat down and I asked 870 00:43:08,000 --> 00:43:10,600 Speaker 6: about how her life has been since the breakup, you know, 871 00:43:10,760 --> 00:43:15,360 Speaker 6: the casual things such as work, family, daily activities, all. 872 00:43:15,200 --> 00:43:16,920 Speaker 2: That jazz, seeing anybody. 873 00:43:17,000 --> 00:43:20,080 Speaker 6: She told me she has been partying a lot since 874 00:43:20,120 --> 00:43:23,000 Speaker 6: our breakup and just wanted to have fun. I think 875 00:43:23,000 --> 00:43:25,920 Speaker 6: i'd leave after that, sentence, I'd be like, you know what, Actually, 876 00:43:26,040 --> 00:43:28,000 Speaker 6: I'm gonna leave the letters here, go ahead and read 877 00:43:28,040 --> 00:43:29,799 Speaker 6: them whenever you want or don't. I don't know. I 878 00:43:29,840 --> 00:43:31,080 Speaker 6: gotta go okay. 879 00:43:31,120 --> 00:43:33,279 Speaker 8: Logistically I was thinking about that, though, I was like, 880 00:43:33,400 --> 00:43:35,680 Speaker 8: oh God, the fact that she's gonna read these in 881 00:43:35,840 --> 00:43:40,680 Speaker 8: front of him, like, oh, I think I almost wish 882 00:43:40,680 --> 00:43:42,800 Speaker 8: they had just been delivered, and like you read. 883 00:43:42,640 --> 00:43:45,759 Speaker 2: Them, and then oh, he's just really upset because he's 884 00:43:45,800 --> 00:43:48,600 Speaker 2: just thinking about Cindy Lapper. Girls just want to have fun. 885 00:43:48,840 --> 00:43:49,160 Speaker 4: Girls. 886 00:43:50,239 --> 00:43:53,000 Speaker 7: Cindy was right. Girls do just want to have fun. 887 00:43:53,880 --> 00:43:55,160 Speaker 2: I thought I shouldn't live song. 888 00:43:55,719 --> 00:43:59,359 Speaker 6: I asked her if this behavior wasn't an escape from 889 00:43:59,360 --> 00:44:02,800 Speaker 6: her own feelings, and she gave me a vague answer, quote, 890 00:44:02,960 --> 00:44:05,760 Speaker 6: I'm working so much and I just want to have fun. Okay, 891 00:44:05,840 --> 00:44:08,200 Speaker 6: I'm doing all right. I could tell she was lying, 892 00:44:08,280 --> 00:44:11,040 Speaker 6: but okay. Within the time we were together, she never 893 00:44:11,120 --> 00:44:13,719 Speaker 6: partied or wanted to party. She started to ask how 894 00:44:13,719 --> 00:44:16,480 Speaker 6: I'm doing, and to be honest, I said, things at 895 00:44:16,520 --> 00:44:18,880 Speaker 6: work and everything are okay, and I've been working on 896 00:44:18,960 --> 00:44:21,439 Speaker 6: myself to figure it all out. But then I said 897 00:44:21,480 --> 00:44:24,279 Speaker 6: that I wasn't doing okay on emotional levels. And I 898 00:44:24,360 --> 00:44:27,400 Speaker 6: was at a breaking point emotionally speaking. Little did she 899 00:44:27,520 --> 00:44:28,880 Speaker 6: know I was already broken. 900 00:44:29,000 --> 00:44:30,640 Speaker 7: No, she didn't know that because you did tell her. 901 00:44:30,880 --> 00:44:33,280 Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, you did see it on your face. 902 00:44:33,640 --> 00:44:35,320 Speaker 2: You don't, Ah, dude. 903 00:44:35,080 --> 00:44:38,080 Speaker 8: This also like sucks because I'm like, and it's hard, 904 00:44:38,160 --> 00:44:39,520 Speaker 8: right because you want to be sympathetic. 905 00:44:39,840 --> 00:44:42,400 Speaker 7: Breakups are hard. But at the same time, I'm. 906 00:44:42,239 --> 00:44:45,040 Speaker 8: Like, this is gonna suck for her exactly like this 907 00:44:45,160 --> 00:44:47,319 Speaker 8: is and and guess why Yeah, because she's pain out 908 00:44:47,320 --> 00:44:50,319 Speaker 8: as a villain. If you're good through a breakup, like 909 00:44:50,719 --> 00:44:53,160 Speaker 8: it sucks, and you do have to get those feelings out. 910 00:44:53,560 --> 00:44:55,680 Speaker 7: You don't do that with your eggs. 911 00:44:55,760 --> 00:44:57,480 Speaker 6: Yeah, your ex is not the person you go to, 912 00:44:57,640 --> 00:44:59,920 Speaker 6: Like I am emotionally broken about our breakup. 913 00:45:00,320 --> 00:45:03,680 Speaker 8: You go to your mom, You go to a stranger 914 00:45:03,800 --> 00:45:06,200 Speaker 8: on a bench and let it pour out, but you don't. 915 00:45:06,680 --> 00:45:09,360 Speaker 2: Maybe that's like that, Maybe that's like plan F but 916 00:45:09,800 --> 00:45:13,680 Speaker 2: the stranger. Don't. Don't do that to a stranger. 917 00:45:14,400 --> 00:45:14,880 Speaker 4: They listen. 918 00:45:14,960 --> 00:45:15,640 Speaker 3: I'm not I'm not. 919 00:45:15,520 --> 00:45:17,919 Speaker 8: Saying I have that as your goal, but I'm saying 920 00:45:17,920 --> 00:45:18,920 Speaker 8: that is a better. 921 00:45:19,280 --> 00:45:21,960 Speaker 2: Better than the last person you should be telling is 922 00:45:21,960 --> 00:45:23,680 Speaker 2: the person is causing you. 923 00:45:23,760 --> 00:45:27,280 Speaker 6: This op continues She said that she was feeling guilty 924 00:45:27,320 --> 00:45:30,719 Speaker 6: about dating that new guy, guilty towards me. I said 925 00:45:30,719 --> 00:45:33,320 Speaker 6: that I wasn't mad or jealous, but extremely hurt by everything, 926 00:45:33,719 --> 00:45:36,280 Speaker 6: but couldn't judge her about it since we are not together. 927 00:45:36,600 --> 00:45:40,239 Speaker 6: After talking about more feelings and more personal stuff, I 928 00:45:40,280 --> 00:45:42,520 Speaker 6: said to her that I have something for her, and 929 00:45:42,560 --> 00:45:44,919 Speaker 6: I grabbed the letter out of my bag. And while 930 00:45:44,920 --> 00:45:47,000 Speaker 6: I was explaining that the letter was written out of 931 00:45:47,280 --> 00:45:50,400 Speaker 6: pure love and my final thoughts about our relationship, I 932 00:45:50,440 --> 00:45:53,160 Speaker 6: started to cry. My voice started to break and I 933 00:45:53,160 --> 00:45:56,520 Speaker 6: couldn't even speak. So I gave her the letter, which 934 00:45:56,560 --> 00:45:59,440 Speaker 6: was in an envelope. The letter wasn't written by hand, 935 00:45:59,560 --> 00:46:02,920 Speaker 6: but ty doubt since my writing is terrible. She asked me, 936 00:46:03,120 --> 00:46:05,279 Speaker 6: do you want me to read it now? And I 937 00:46:05,400 --> 00:46:06,600 Speaker 6: replied yes. 938 00:46:06,600 --> 00:46:10,440 Speaker 8: Please, yes, please publish, yes, please. 939 00:46:10,200 --> 00:46:10,920 Speaker 3: Yes please. 940 00:46:11,280 --> 00:46:13,960 Speaker 6: You're just a glutton for punishment at this point. That's 941 00:46:14,000 --> 00:46:16,080 Speaker 6: what it kind of feels like. Yeah, it feels like 942 00:46:16,120 --> 00:46:19,240 Speaker 6: you're kind of really leaning into being as upset about 943 00:46:19,239 --> 00:46:23,520 Speaker 6: the breakup as you possibly could be, which is kind 944 00:46:23,560 --> 00:46:27,000 Speaker 6: of I get. I can empathize, but you can't just 945 00:46:27,239 --> 00:46:29,040 Speaker 6: stay in the pain. 946 00:46:28,920 --> 00:46:30,640 Speaker 8: For the rest of your life. 947 00:46:30,760 --> 00:46:33,400 Speaker 6: While she was reading it, I couldn't control my emotions 948 00:46:33,480 --> 00:46:36,560 Speaker 6: and cried while she was reading. When she was done reading, 949 00:46:36,680 --> 00:46:39,479 Speaker 6: she came to me and started crying and hugged me tight. 950 00:46:39,760 --> 00:46:42,040 Speaker 6: We both started crying while we were hugging each other, 951 00:46:42,280 --> 00:46:44,080 Speaker 6: and she told me that this was the most beautiful 952 00:46:44,120 --> 00:46:47,200 Speaker 6: letter she had ever received. She told me that she 953 00:46:47,400 --> 00:46:49,360 Speaker 6: was so proud of me that I opened up to 954 00:46:49,400 --> 00:46:51,319 Speaker 6: her in this way, and that I finally told her 955 00:46:51,320 --> 00:46:55,000 Speaker 6: about my feelings. She said, quote, you are right. I 956 00:46:55,120 --> 00:46:59,000 Speaker 6: have pushed you away emotionally, and I understand now. While 957 00:46:59,200 --> 00:47:02,640 Speaker 6: she didn't apologize for her behavior during our relationship, I 958 00:47:02,680 --> 00:47:06,600 Speaker 6: did feel an enormous sense of relief. Finally I told 959 00:47:06,640 --> 00:47:09,279 Speaker 6: my side of the story and my feelings, and she 960 00:47:09,600 --> 00:47:12,400 Speaker 6: finally heard me. She told me how much respect she 961 00:47:12,440 --> 00:47:15,320 Speaker 6: has towards me and how much I've grown as a person. 962 00:47:15,560 --> 00:47:19,279 Speaker 6: She's always respected me, as she said, quote, You've been 963 00:47:19,320 --> 00:47:22,440 Speaker 6: there for me in times where there was no one else. Literally, 964 00:47:22,680 --> 00:47:24,360 Speaker 6: there was no one else I could count on in 965 00:47:24,400 --> 00:47:26,719 Speaker 6: the hardest times of my life. You are not the 966 00:47:26,760 --> 00:47:29,000 Speaker 6: person I met five years ago, and you have grown 967 00:47:29,120 --> 00:47:32,040 Speaker 6: so much, and I'm proud of you. I asked if 968 00:47:32,080 --> 00:47:37,240 Speaker 6: she wanted to talk about her traumas, and she opened 969 00:47:37,320 --> 00:47:40,360 Speaker 6: up about one, but this was the one I supported 970 00:47:40,360 --> 00:47:43,560 Speaker 6: her through and through. She never told me anything about 971 00:47:43,640 --> 00:47:46,359 Speaker 6: the traumas, and I hoped that one day she could 972 00:47:46,400 --> 00:47:49,239 Speaker 6: open up so that I could understand her better. But 973 00:47:49,400 --> 00:47:53,200 Speaker 6: that day never came. We talked some more and I 974 00:47:53,239 --> 00:47:56,399 Speaker 6: decided to leave. Excuse me if I don't remember all 975 00:47:56,440 --> 00:47:59,239 Speaker 6: the exact details. It was a very intense night for me, 976 00:47:59,520 --> 00:48:02,840 Speaker 6: but this was the most important thing. Writing this post 977 00:48:03,000 --> 00:48:06,839 Speaker 6: took me days as well, So thank you if you're 978 00:48:06,880 --> 00:48:09,560 Speaker 6: still reading, and I hope it can help someone out 979 00:48:09,560 --> 00:48:11,959 Speaker 6: there to have their own form of closure going through 980 00:48:11,960 --> 00:48:17,760 Speaker 6: a heavy breakup. To be honest, this night couldn't be better. 981 00:48:18,120 --> 00:48:21,319 Speaker 6: We had a beautiful conversation with a lot of emotions 982 00:48:21,360 --> 00:48:23,600 Speaker 6: to it, and it is a great step for me 983 00:48:23,719 --> 00:48:27,280 Speaker 6: getting more closure. I hope she can find closure as well, 984 00:48:27,320 --> 00:48:30,520 Speaker 6: because I just feel with everything inside me she's running 985 00:48:30,560 --> 00:48:33,880 Speaker 6: away from her feelings. I came home and finally slept, 986 00:48:33,920 --> 00:48:36,000 Speaker 6: but I would lie if I said that I'm doing fine. 987 00:48:36,320 --> 00:48:39,839 Speaker 6: She texted me this right after quote. Thank you so 988 00:48:40,000 --> 00:48:42,320 Speaker 6: much for the letter. It is beautiful and I'm still 989 00:48:42,360 --> 00:48:45,640 Speaker 6: trying to understand it all. It has touched something in 990 00:48:45,680 --> 00:48:48,600 Speaker 6: me which I'm still trying to figure out to this day. 991 00:48:49,000 --> 00:48:51,600 Speaker 6: Thank you, I can remember that I felt a lot 992 00:48:51,640 --> 00:48:54,560 Speaker 6: of pain. It feels like I've lost my soulmate, my 993 00:48:54,600 --> 00:48:56,800 Speaker 6: best friend, and the love of my life all at once, 994 00:48:57,320 --> 00:49:00,600 Speaker 6: and that hurts so badly. It feels like my heart 995 00:49:00,600 --> 00:49:03,920 Speaker 6: has shattered into a million fragments of emotions, beautiful memories, 996 00:49:03,920 --> 00:49:06,680 Speaker 6: and the thought we would last forever due to the 997 00:49:06,719 --> 00:49:09,000 Speaker 6: fact that we had a lot of fun together. We 998 00:49:09,040 --> 00:49:11,400 Speaker 6: did have a pure connection which I've never felt with 999 00:49:11,440 --> 00:49:15,160 Speaker 6: someone else. But what I also slowly started to realize 1000 00:49:15,360 --> 00:49:18,560 Speaker 6: is that if she was indeed my soulmate and the 1001 00:49:18,600 --> 00:49:21,200 Speaker 6: love of my life, she wouldn't have left. She wouldn't 1002 00:49:21,200 --> 00:49:24,040 Speaker 6: have neglected my emotions and feeling so much by going 1003 00:49:24,080 --> 00:49:26,560 Speaker 6: into self defense mode all the time. The absence and 1004 00:49:26,680 --> 00:49:29,759 Speaker 6: the silence speak volumes, and it's the most painful thing 1005 00:49:29,800 --> 00:49:32,920 Speaker 6: there is. My favorite person is gone and out of 1006 00:49:32,920 --> 00:49:35,759 Speaker 6: my life and dating someone else, someone else will make 1007 00:49:35,760 --> 00:49:38,040 Speaker 6: her happy and be intimate with her and look her 1008 00:49:38,040 --> 00:49:40,560 Speaker 6: in the eyes and get to date with her. That 1009 00:49:41,239 --> 00:49:43,200 Speaker 6: is the painful reality I have to live with. 1010 00:49:43,440 --> 00:49:43,879 Speaker 3: That's true. 1011 00:49:43,880 --> 00:49:47,200 Speaker 6: Brother, There's no coming back from this. If you say so, brother. 1012 00:49:47,600 --> 00:49:50,800 Speaker 6: I find her and miss her in all the smallest 1013 00:49:50,840 --> 00:49:53,640 Speaker 6: things I do. To this day, it feels so heavy, 1014 00:49:53,880 --> 00:49:58,040 Speaker 6: like she's an emotional shadow that follows me and everything 1015 00:49:58,040 --> 00:50:01,759 Speaker 6: I do and everywhere I go. How poetic. Last couple 1016 00:50:01,800 --> 00:50:04,920 Speaker 6: of days are getting better, I must say, Okay, ups 1017 00:50:04,960 --> 00:50:08,120 Speaker 6: and down, all right, thank you so much for reading. 1018 00:50:08,160 --> 00:50:10,200 Speaker 6: It took me a long time to write all of this. 1019 00:50:10,600 --> 00:50:13,719 Speaker 6: And whoever reads this and is still healing, know that 1020 00:50:13,800 --> 00:50:14,680 Speaker 6: you're not alone. 1021 00:50:14,719 --> 00:50:16,879 Speaker 7: Hey, thanks man, Hey, thanks. 1022 00:50:16,880 --> 00:50:20,600 Speaker 6: Are here, But are there? That's the end of that story. 1023 00:50:21,320 --> 00:50:23,000 Speaker 1: Hey, it's Sam. We're gonna get back to the stories. 1024 00:50:23,040 --> 00:50:25,000 Speaker 1: But here's three minutes of bads from our sponsors. 1025 00:50:25,440 --> 00:50:29,839 Speaker 8: I love my current girlfriend, but my extra just sent 1026 00:50:29,880 --> 00:50:30,400 Speaker 8: me a letter. 1027 00:50:30,600 --> 00:50:33,160 Speaker 2: Burn it, yeah, don't even read it. Cast it into 1028 00:50:33,200 --> 00:50:33,720 Speaker 2: the fire. 1029 00:50:34,040 --> 00:50:38,160 Speaker 8: That's not for your eyes. I call me Anthony thirty 1030 00:50:38,200 --> 00:50:40,759 Speaker 8: two years old. I have been with my current girlfriend, 1031 00:50:40,840 --> 00:50:43,560 Speaker 8: call her Michelle, thirty three years old, for four years, 1032 00:50:43,680 --> 00:50:46,160 Speaker 8: no plans of marriage, and one time she cheated on me. 1033 00:50:46,480 --> 00:50:50,799 Speaker 8: Wasted mistake, blah blah blah whatever I forgave her. We're 1034 00:50:50,840 --> 00:50:53,560 Speaker 8: pretty much best friends that do everything together and live together. 1035 00:50:53,719 --> 00:50:55,240 Speaker 7: Other than the one instance of cheating. 1036 00:50:55,280 --> 00:50:58,200 Speaker 8: We have had no major issues and live a pretty 1037 00:50:58,200 --> 00:50:58,680 Speaker 8: good life. 1038 00:50:58,760 --> 00:51:00,040 Speaker 4: She doesn't want kids her marriage. 1039 00:51:00,120 --> 00:51:01,839 Speaker 7: I do, though it's a hard no for her. 1040 00:51:02,239 --> 00:51:05,560 Speaker 8: By the way, this comes from Enufan for Yasha, and 1041 00:51:05,600 --> 00:51:07,200 Speaker 8: if you want to submit your own stories, go to 1042 00:51:07,239 --> 00:51:09,480 Speaker 8: our slash Okay story time subreddit. 1043 00:51:09,840 --> 00:51:12,520 Speaker 6: I'm Riley, I'm Dakota, and I'm Keon. 1044 00:51:13,480 --> 00:51:16,319 Speaker 8: We try to give our best advice on this, but 1045 00:51:16,880 --> 00:51:19,759 Speaker 8: we haven't experienced most of what's occurring in these so 1046 00:51:19,840 --> 00:51:22,080 Speaker 8: if you have, If you have any thoughts, get done 1047 00:51:22,120 --> 00:51:25,400 Speaker 8: in the comments let us know. OPI says recently, my 1048 00:51:25,520 --> 00:51:29,720 Speaker 8: ex call her Nicole, thirty two years old. Nicole contacted 1049 00:51:29,760 --> 00:51:33,640 Speaker 8: me over a promise we made back when we broke up. 1050 00:51:33,719 --> 00:51:36,680 Speaker 8: The promises as follows, when and if we were both 1051 00:51:36,800 --> 00:51:39,640 Speaker 8: not married by thirty two, we would find a way 1052 00:51:39,680 --> 00:51:43,240 Speaker 8: to be together. Some backstory on her and I childhood 1053 00:51:43,239 --> 00:51:46,240 Speaker 8: friends started dating in middle school, dated through high school. 1054 00:51:46,320 --> 00:51:48,480 Speaker 8: She was accepted to her dream college and so was I. 1055 00:51:48,800 --> 00:51:51,120 Speaker 8: On opposite ends of the country Virginia Tech. 1056 00:51:51,040 --> 00:51:52,719 Speaker 7: For her and Stanford for me. 1057 00:51:53,040 --> 00:51:55,000 Speaker 8: We did long term for two years until deciding to 1058 00:51:55,080 --> 00:51:57,280 Speaker 8: let each other live their life and be more connected 1059 00:51:57,560 --> 00:51:59,800 Speaker 8: to maybe someone closer if it was going to happen. 1060 00:52:00,080 --> 00:52:02,400 Speaker 8: This was a mutual decision and we broke up contact 1061 00:52:02,440 --> 00:52:03,279 Speaker 8: at that point so we. 1062 00:52:03,200 --> 00:52:03,719 Speaker 4: Could move on. 1063 00:52:03,920 --> 00:52:05,879 Speaker 8: Her parents still talk to me on occasion, live four 1064 00:52:05,880 --> 00:52:08,319 Speaker 8: hours away, same with sister twenty minutes away and her 1065 00:52:08,360 --> 00:52:12,080 Speaker 8: grandparents two hours away, but never about her per my request. 1066 00:52:12,160 --> 00:52:14,200 Speaker 8: So I have been getting calls from a weird number 1067 00:52:14,239 --> 00:52:17,120 Speaker 8: once every month since September, and I just didn't answer 1068 00:52:17,280 --> 00:52:20,360 Speaker 8: because I don't answer numbers I don't know figure if important. 1069 00:52:20,360 --> 00:52:21,440 Speaker 4: They would leave a message. 1070 00:52:21,680 --> 00:52:25,640 Speaker 8: X's sister comes by and says, Hey, this is from Nicole. 1071 00:52:25,800 --> 00:52:28,000 Speaker 8: She said you can read it and respond if you want, 1072 00:52:28,080 --> 00:52:31,000 Speaker 8: and if not, then she will understand soon enough. For 1073 00:52:31,120 --> 00:52:33,920 Speaker 8: the life of me, I had forgotten our weird promise, 1074 00:52:34,040 --> 00:52:36,400 Speaker 8: but the letter goes as this, Hey, Anthony, I know 1075 00:52:36,480 --> 00:52:38,120 Speaker 8: neither of us have been in contact in the last 1076 00:52:38,160 --> 00:52:40,440 Speaker 8: ten years, but I'm asking if you still remember the 1077 00:52:40,480 --> 00:52:43,279 Speaker 8: promise we make. I have no right to ask about it, 1078 00:52:43,480 --> 00:52:45,719 Speaker 8: and if you have moved on, then it's okay. As 1079 00:52:45,760 --> 00:52:48,040 Speaker 8: I want you to be happy first and foremost, I 1080 00:52:48,120 --> 00:52:51,000 Speaker 8: want you to note that this isn't a desperation attempt, 1081 00:52:51,080 --> 00:52:53,560 Speaker 8: because I am lonely. My sister was quite keen on 1082 00:52:53,600 --> 00:52:55,920 Speaker 8: giving that as the probable reason as to why I've 1083 00:52:55,960 --> 00:52:58,200 Speaker 8: been feeling this way and why I'm bringing up that 1084 00:52:58,280 --> 00:53:00,520 Speaker 8: old promise. This is more along lines of I just 1085 00:53:00,560 --> 00:53:03,520 Speaker 8: can't imagine my life with anyone else. Yes, I have 1086 00:53:03,600 --> 00:53:06,000 Speaker 8: been on dates, many dates, and had one relationship that 1087 00:53:06,080 --> 00:53:09,080 Speaker 8: lasted over a year, but there was always this feeling 1088 00:53:09,120 --> 00:53:11,759 Speaker 8: in me, this lack feeling in me that well, in 1089 00:53:11,800 --> 00:53:14,040 Speaker 8: all honesty, they weren't you. You're the guy I knew 1090 00:53:14,040 --> 00:53:16,560 Speaker 8: instantly when we're young that I would want to be 1091 00:53:16,640 --> 00:53:18,880 Speaker 8: with forever, the guy who made me smile, that I 1092 00:53:18,920 --> 00:53:20,840 Speaker 8: could wake up next to you and was genuinely happy 1093 00:53:20,880 --> 00:53:23,400 Speaker 8: knowing when we were together. In my mind, you have 1094 00:53:23,640 --> 00:53:26,840 Speaker 8: been my only want and desire. That day we decided 1095 00:53:26,880 --> 00:53:28,600 Speaker 8: to try and move on because of the distance. 1096 00:53:28,680 --> 00:53:29,239 Speaker 7: I won't lie. 1097 00:53:29,239 --> 00:53:31,200 Speaker 4: It took me about a year to realize how stupid 1098 00:53:31,200 --> 00:53:31,560 Speaker 4: that was. 1099 00:53:31,760 --> 00:53:33,680 Speaker 8: It was mutual, but my feelings are that I pushed 1100 00:53:33,719 --> 00:53:36,160 Speaker 8: you towards it. I honestly feel like the first suggestion 1101 00:53:36,239 --> 00:53:38,200 Speaker 8: of giving time to each other to finish school and 1102 00:53:38,239 --> 00:53:41,400 Speaker 8: not have to try and coordinate our lives was the stupidest. 1103 00:53:40,840 --> 00:53:43,280 Speaker 4: Mistake I ever could have done. 1104 00:53:43,480 --> 00:53:45,680 Speaker 8: Anthony, you are my soulmate, my love, my life, and 1105 00:53:45,880 --> 00:53:48,560 Speaker 8: that is why what comes next, I say, with all 1106 00:53:48,640 --> 00:53:52,800 Speaker 8: fear aside, I am ready to leave everything and find 1107 00:53:52,840 --> 00:53:56,319 Speaker 8: a new job to move back to be with you. 1108 00:53:56,440 --> 00:53:59,520 Speaker 7: I'm fully prepared to do this if you even think 1109 00:53:59,560 --> 00:54:01,520 Speaker 7: there can be a chance for us again. 1110 00:54:01,880 --> 00:54:03,680 Speaker 8: I love you, I love you, and nobody else will 1111 00:54:03,680 --> 00:54:05,279 Speaker 8: ever take the place you have in my heart. I 1112 00:54:05,320 --> 00:54:07,279 Speaker 8: talk to my parents and friends. They are in full 1113 00:54:07,320 --> 00:54:09,799 Speaker 8: support of this. Also, thank you so much for being 1114 00:54:09,800 --> 00:54:12,080 Speaker 8: there for my parents when they needed help moving and 1115 00:54:12,120 --> 00:54:14,760 Speaker 8: working on Dad's bike and truck. I had no idea 1116 00:54:14,800 --> 00:54:17,320 Speaker 8: until a few days ago. I will be fully committed 1117 00:54:17,360 --> 00:54:19,600 Speaker 8: to being yours. I want to be part of your 1118 00:54:19,600 --> 00:54:22,200 Speaker 8: life and want you to be in mind forever, growing old, 1119 00:54:22,440 --> 00:54:24,839 Speaker 8: seeing the world change, the lives we live together as one, 1120 00:54:25,040 --> 00:54:27,120 Speaker 8: and most importantly, I just want us to be happy. 1121 00:54:27,160 --> 00:54:29,239 Speaker 8: I've wasted enough time holding back what I have wanted 1122 00:54:29,280 --> 00:54:31,120 Speaker 8: to say for the last few years. I love you 1123 00:54:31,160 --> 00:54:33,000 Speaker 8: so much. I want to live my life with you. 1124 00:54:33,400 --> 00:54:36,120 Speaker 8: I'm prepared to leave it off for you and lastly, 1125 00:54:36,239 --> 00:54:39,600 Speaker 8: my love, my childhood friend, my soulmate. I'm more than 1126 00:54:39,640 --> 00:54:42,160 Speaker 8: prepared to be your wife and be the mother to 1127 00:54:42,239 --> 00:54:44,920 Speaker 8: our children. If I don't hear back by the end 1128 00:54:44,960 --> 00:54:47,239 Speaker 8: of the month, I assume you've moved on for the 1129 00:54:47,280 --> 00:54:49,799 Speaker 8: better and will do my best not to reach out 1130 00:54:49,840 --> 00:54:50,399 Speaker 8: again if. 1131 00:54:50,320 --> 00:54:51,160 Speaker 4: You decide otherwise. 1132 00:54:51,200 --> 00:54:55,000 Speaker 8: I've left my number and email love insert nickname from 1133 00:54:55,080 --> 00:54:59,319 Speaker 8: childhood Nicole. To be honest, says op parenthesis Anthony, I 1134 00:54:59,360 --> 00:55:01,160 Speaker 8: don't know if I I should respond or what I 1135 00:55:01,160 --> 00:55:03,680 Speaker 8: should do. She left her number one that has been 1136 00:55:03,719 --> 00:55:06,840 Speaker 8: calling me and her email. I'm conflicted a lot, really. 1137 00:55:07,120 --> 00:55:08,920 Speaker 8: I literally cried when I read the letter, and it 1138 00:55:08,960 --> 00:55:11,000 Speaker 8: brought back a lot of emotions that I didn't think 1139 00:55:11,000 --> 00:55:14,919 Speaker 8: we're still there since since Michelle, Nicole, and I all 1140 00:55:14,960 --> 00:55:18,560 Speaker 8: went to the same high school, they both know each other, 1141 00:55:18,960 --> 00:55:23,400 Speaker 8: and I'm honestly afraid that Michelle will tell me to 1142 00:55:23,480 --> 00:55:27,680 Speaker 8: go be with her without a second thought if I 1143 00:55:28,000 --> 00:55:32,839 Speaker 8: told her about Nicole reaching out, only just knowing how 1144 00:55:32,880 --> 00:55:35,640 Speaker 8: she is as a person. I've been debating it since 1145 00:55:35,680 --> 00:55:37,960 Speaker 8: getting the letter yesterday, and since I always see good 1146 00:55:37,960 --> 00:55:40,760 Speaker 8: advice here, I thought to ask the Reddit family, Okay, 1147 00:55:40,760 --> 00:55:44,000 Speaker 8: there is an edit. I talked to my current girlfriend first. 1148 00:55:44,040 --> 00:55:45,600 Speaker 8: We had a big doc that was the last six 1149 00:55:45,640 --> 00:55:47,560 Speaker 8: hours we were thinking about what we are both wanting 1150 00:55:47,640 --> 00:55:49,640 Speaker 8: in the future. She made it clear that kids and 1151 00:55:49,719 --> 00:55:51,759 Speaker 8: adoption are out of her plan and suggested that we 1152 00:55:51,800 --> 00:55:54,120 Speaker 8: should just be friends if that's what I truly want. 1153 00:55:54,000 --> 00:55:54,600 Speaker 4: In the future. 1154 00:55:54,880 --> 00:55:56,319 Speaker 8: I told her that I would still be friends with 1155 00:55:56,320 --> 00:55:59,120 Speaker 8: her no matter what, since we do all the things together, 1156 00:55:59,160 --> 00:56:02,000 Speaker 8: and she laughed and said, no kids, and I keep 1157 00:56:02,040 --> 00:56:03,879 Speaker 8: my best friend who loves to do the same things 1158 00:56:03,920 --> 00:56:07,280 Speaker 8: I do. It's all good rather we both be happy 1159 00:56:07,320 --> 00:56:09,879 Speaker 8: in the long run. Don't feel too bad or think 1160 00:56:09,920 --> 00:56:13,120 Speaker 8: this is a mistake. We then talked about the letter 1161 00:56:13,120 --> 00:56:16,200 Speaker 8: from the ex and she pretty much said, Nichole sounds crazy, 1162 00:56:16,640 --> 00:56:18,759 Speaker 8: but if it's something I want to pursue because of 1163 00:56:18,800 --> 00:56:21,560 Speaker 8: the history we had, then she has no ill feelings 1164 00:56:21,600 --> 00:56:24,320 Speaker 8: of me going that route. Also said if it doesn't 1165 00:56:24,360 --> 00:56:27,280 Speaker 8: work out, then I can always go back to plan 1166 00:56:27,719 --> 00:56:31,239 Speaker 8: no kids in Freedom thanked me for bringing it up, then, 1167 00:56:31,280 --> 00:56:34,880 Speaker 8: in her typical fashion, joked about me going to be 1168 00:56:35,000 --> 00:56:37,600 Speaker 8: bluebald for a while. Rest of the hike was pretty 1169 00:56:37,680 --> 00:56:41,240 Speaker 8: much us just talking like we normally do, then debating lunch. 1170 00:56:41,560 --> 00:56:43,120 Speaker 4: Okay, when we got to the. 1171 00:56:43,040 --> 00:56:45,799 Speaker 8: Trailhead, I asked if she wanted any alone time or not. 1172 00:56:46,200 --> 00:56:48,799 Speaker 8: She said no, and that she eventually thought this would 1173 00:56:48,840 --> 00:56:50,000 Speaker 8: happen as we got older. 1174 00:56:50,320 --> 00:56:54,760 Speaker 6: What an abysmal relationship this has been. She's like, Nah, basically, 1175 00:56:54,800 --> 00:56:57,759 Speaker 6: I just thought we'd always break up chitching, the day 1176 00:56:57,840 --> 00:57:01,600 Speaker 6: is cads, the day is here. Investment, I'm cashing it 1177 00:57:01,640 --> 00:57:03,920 Speaker 6: in Hutching, Schuching. 1178 00:57:03,880 --> 00:57:04,600 Speaker 3: Oh Man. 1179 00:57:05,000 --> 00:57:06,680 Speaker 8: She asked me if we can still do the friend 1180 00:57:06,760 --> 00:57:08,880 Speaker 8: stuff until something else happens in our lives, and I 1181 00:57:08,920 --> 00:57:11,400 Speaker 8: told her yes, of course. She said no harm in 1182 00:57:11,480 --> 00:57:14,040 Speaker 8: that then, and that was that. We're at the mall 1183 00:57:14,440 --> 00:57:17,200 Speaker 8: for her girl's lunch and I'm sitting at the table 1184 00:57:17,360 --> 00:57:20,520 Speaker 8: like a weirdo. Huh yeah, until I call up the 1185 00:57:20,640 --> 00:57:22,040 Speaker 8: ex and see what she is like. 1186 00:57:22,480 --> 00:57:23,480 Speaker 4: That is it for now. 1187 00:57:23,760 --> 00:57:27,280 Speaker 8: Update two years later, after Michelle and I ended our relationship, 1188 00:57:27,520 --> 00:57:32,440 Speaker 8: parentheses kind of nothing changed aside from living together and 1189 00:57:32,720 --> 00:57:35,400 Speaker 8: shared a moment. Nicole and I started to make plans 1190 00:57:35,440 --> 00:57:37,640 Speaker 8: for when she came out here for her grandma's birthday. 1191 00:57:37,840 --> 00:57:39,680 Speaker 8: Talking on the phone a lot emails back and forth, 1192 00:57:39,760 --> 00:57:42,440 Speaker 8: we decided on waiting to video chat or send picks 1193 00:57:42,480 --> 00:57:45,480 Speaker 8: to another since it wasn't too far off when she 1194 00:57:45,560 --> 00:57:47,880 Speaker 8: would be visiting, and we thought it would be a 1195 00:57:47,960 --> 00:57:48,760 Speaker 8: good surprise. 1196 00:57:49,240 --> 00:57:51,280 Speaker 7: The initial hello was awkward, as heck. 1197 00:57:51,440 --> 00:57:53,440 Speaker 8: When she got out of the terminal, I recognized her 1198 00:57:53,520 --> 00:57:55,320 Speaker 8: right off the bat and was amazed that she pretty 1199 00:57:55,400 --> 00:57:57,720 Speaker 8: much looked exactly the same as when I last remembered. 1200 00:57:58,000 --> 00:58:00,200 Speaker 8: I'd seen pictures of her sisters and parents, but I 1201 00:58:00,280 --> 00:58:02,160 Speaker 8: was floored by how much she hadn't changed in the 1202 00:58:02,280 --> 00:58:04,440 Speaker 8: last ten years. Getting into the car, we kind of 1203 00:58:04,520 --> 00:58:06,240 Speaker 8: just stared at one another for a minute, and she 1204 00:58:06,360 --> 00:58:09,680 Speaker 8: started off with, well, if you don't drive anywhere, people. 1205 00:58:09,480 --> 00:58:11,200 Speaker 4: Are going to start honking. Smart guy. 1206 00:58:11,480 --> 00:58:14,880 Speaker 8: That started our week long catching up journey. We first 1207 00:58:14,960 --> 00:58:18,200 Speaker 8: went to go get some food and decided on pizza parentheses. 1208 00:58:18,440 --> 00:58:20,000 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, and it was. 1209 00:58:20,040 --> 00:58:21,560 Speaker 7: Pretty easy going from that moment on. 1210 00:58:21,960 --> 00:58:25,240 Speaker 8: We shared stories of what life had been like, showed 1211 00:58:25,280 --> 00:58:28,520 Speaker 8: off scars, looked at each other's trips and vacations, shared 1212 00:58:28,560 --> 00:58:30,560 Speaker 8: each other's hobbies. She asked about our old group of 1213 00:58:30,560 --> 00:58:32,919 Speaker 8: friends and who's still around, et cetera. That small first 1214 00:58:32,960 --> 00:58:35,240 Speaker 8: meeting changed everything in life for us both. 1215 00:58:35,600 --> 00:58:37,680 Speaker 4: I won't go into specifics. 1216 00:58:37,160 --> 00:58:39,800 Speaker 8: Or minor details on the following dates and days, but 1217 00:58:39,960 --> 00:58:41,920 Speaker 8: to say that week went by in a heartbeat is 1218 00:58:41,960 --> 00:58:44,840 Speaker 8: an understatement. When it was time for Grandma's birthday, it 1219 00:58:44,960 --> 00:58:46,000 Speaker 8: was like old times again. 1220 00:58:46,280 --> 00:58:47,640 Speaker 3: The family was easy to be around. 1221 00:58:47,680 --> 00:58:49,480 Speaker 8: We all joked and laughed and didn't have much of 1222 00:58:49,520 --> 00:58:52,480 Speaker 8: any problems throughout the week. Parentheses our music taste was 1223 00:58:52,520 --> 00:58:55,280 Speaker 8: the only problem. Lots of fighting over that radio dial 1224 00:58:55,480 --> 00:58:58,960 Speaker 8: ha the goodbye felt our week of vacation was over 1225 00:58:59,200 --> 00:59:00,760 Speaker 8: and it was time to get back to our lives 1226 00:59:00,760 --> 00:59:03,120 Speaker 8: half a country apart. Fast forward a few weeks and 1227 00:59:03,240 --> 00:59:05,440 Speaker 8: we decided that I go visit her this time around. 1228 00:59:05,480 --> 00:59:08,360 Speaker 8: Phone conversations were going great and airfare was cheap enough. 1229 00:59:08,480 --> 00:59:10,360 Speaker 8: Texted before I got on the plane and told her 1230 00:59:10,400 --> 00:59:14,080 Speaker 8: my arrival time. Landed and felt like I was ghosted, 1231 00:59:14,400 --> 00:59:17,200 Speaker 8: not there to pick me up, wasn't answering the phone 1232 00:59:17,520 --> 00:59:21,240 Speaker 8: didn't respond to any text Facebook said last online four 1233 00:59:21,320 --> 00:59:24,160 Speaker 8: hours ago. I started to feel like maybe this was 1234 00:59:24,240 --> 00:59:27,600 Speaker 8: some joke on my behalf and was worried. About forty 1235 00:59:27,640 --> 00:59:30,280 Speaker 8: five minutes go by and I'm walking towards a hotel 1236 00:59:30,640 --> 00:59:32,960 Speaker 8: when my phone rang and I find out she was 1237 00:59:33,120 --> 00:59:36,080 Speaker 8: so fancy about me coming that she spent the night 1238 00:59:36,160 --> 00:59:40,600 Speaker 8: awake and upon hearing I was on the way, promptly 1239 00:59:40,920 --> 00:59:43,240 Speaker 8: passed out hard. By the time she got to me, 1240 00:59:43,440 --> 00:59:46,160 Speaker 8: I was a sweaty mess, but was apologetic all the 1241 00:59:46,200 --> 00:59:48,560 Speaker 8: way to her place, and the following two days we 1242 00:59:48,680 --> 00:59:50,800 Speaker 8: hung out the entire time pretty much doing what we 1243 00:59:50,840 --> 00:59:53,280 Speaker 8: couldn't do where I live. Days at the beach, swimming, 1244 00:59:53,480 --> 00:59:55,720 Speaker 8: me getting in a small amount of rock hounding while 1245 00:59:55,760 --> 00:59:58,479 Speaker 8: she looked for critter, and eating all the Cajun food 1246 00:59:58,560 --> 01:00:01,760 Speaker 8: I could ever hope in a it went great, and 1247 01:00:01,920 --> 01:00:05,400 Speaker 8: other than the constant ball jokes parentheses, I had shaved 1248 01:00:05,440 --> 01:00:09,280 Speaker 8: my head. Meeting her friends, her dog, hanging out and 1249 01:00:09,440 --> 01:00:12,640 Speaker 8: doing things we each love was just tranquil in each 1250 01:00:13,040 --> 01:00:15,960 Speaker 8: way possible. When it came time to say goodbye, she 1251 01:00:16,120 --> 01:00:18,440 Speaker 8: asked if I had any vacation time left, and if 1252 01:00:18,480 --> 01:00:21,120 Speaker 8: I did, if she could come back up for longer, 1253 01:00:21,440 --> 01:00:23,760 Speaker 8: and I of course said yes. Four months go by 1254 01:00:23,840 --> 01:00:25,120 Speaker 8: of back and forth traveling on weekends. 1255 01:00:25,200 --> 01:00:26,280 Speaker 4: Can I say something, Dakota. 1256 01:00:26,600 --> 01:00:28,000 Speaker 6: Yes, I'm just gonna say. 1257 01:00:28,040 --> 01:00:29,640 Speaker 8: Where's the all move right now? 1258 01:00:29,840 --> 01:00:30,160 Speaker 4: Energy? 1259 01:00:30,560 --> 01:00:34,080 Speaker 8: Because in that letter she was like, I'm ready to, 1260 01:00:34,440 --> 01:00:37,120 Speaker 8: I'm ready to move back, I'm ready to and now 1261 01:00:37,240 --> 01:00:39,000 Speaker 8: I'm spending my Southwest points. 1262 01:00:39,360 --> 01:00:39,560 Speaker 2: Yeah. 1263 01:00:39,760 --> 01:00:41,200 Speaker 3: So you guys, I don't know. 1264 01:00:41,880 --> 01:00:44,600 Speaker 6: I think probably for the best that you didn't blow 1265 01:00:44,680 --> 01:00:46,880 Speaker 6: up your whole life and move there immediately. But that 1266 01:00:47,040 --> 01:00:48,560 Speaker 6: is a great it is a great. 1267 01:00:48,360 --> 01:00:50,560 Speaker 7: Point, better choice. But I am just kind of like, 1268 01:00:50,720 --> 01:00:51,600 Speaker 7: so what are we doing? 1269 01:00:51,680 --> 01:00:53,000 Speaker 4: Like, what is the vibe? 1270 01:00:53,200 --> 01:00:54,760 Speaker 3: What what are we doing? 1271 01:00:55,000 --> 01:00:59,400 Speaker 6: You're just going from two different serious relationships with people 1272 01:00:59,440 --> 01:01:00,280 Speaker 6: you went to high school. 1273 01:01:00,280 --> 01:01:00,440 Speaker 3: Way. 1274 01:01:00,440 --> 01:01:04,280 Speaker 6: I'm sorry. There's so many other people. 1275 01:01:04,160 --> 01:01:08,920 Speaker 8: In the world, Anthony, We're all just living in it. 1276 01:01:09,320 --> 01:01:10,960 Speaker 6: Just Anthony Anthony? 1277 01:01:11,240 --> 01:01:11,520 Speaker 3: Or is it? 1278 01:01:11,960 --> 01:01:15,520 Speaker 6: Or is it now? Anthony Rackets. 1279 01:01:16,720 --> 01:01:17,400 Speaker 7: Four months go. 1280 01:01:17,480 --> 01:01:20,240 Speaker 8: By of back and forth, traveling on weekends, always on 1281 01:01:20,320 --> 01:01:22,320 Speaker 8: the phone, and by that point, I feel like it's time. 1282 01:01:22,560 --> 01:01:24,200 Speaker 8: I asked her if she wants to move in with me. 1283 01:01:24,400 --> 01:01:27,520 Speaker 8: Immediately said yes, and we made our last vacation week 1284 01:01:27,600 --> 01:01:29,160 Speaker 8: into a road trip to bring her. 1285 01:01:29,120 --> 01:01:29,840 Speaker 4: Up to where I live. 1286 01:01:29,960 --> 01:01:32,400 Speaker 8: Our dogs got along, and she was able to transfer 1287 01:01:32,720 --> 01:01:35,200 Speaker 8: to a new department based pretty close to where we lived. 1288 01:01:35,360 --> 01:01:37,360 Speaker 8: It was a dream coming true, and it too went 1289 01:01:37,480 --> 01:01:39,960 Speaker 8: by so fast that honestly, it feels like it was yesterday. 1290 01:01:40,680 --> 01:01:43,120 Speaker 8: She actually asked me to marry her a few months later. 1291 01:01:43,320 --> 01:01:46,000 Speaker 3: And I of course said yes, Oh okay. 1292 01:01:46,880 --> 01:01:49,520 Speaker 5: She had glown the dark rock set up to ask 1293 01:01:49,640 --> 01:01:51,680 Speaker 5: me in our yard when we went up to the 1294 01:01:51,840 --> 01:01:53,280 Speaker 5: deck to watch the stars. 1295 01:01:53,600 --> 01:01:57,880 Speaker 6: This guy, honestly can't even fault that. It's very I 1296 01:01:58,040 --> 01:02:01,840 Speaker 6: just have to now immediately look up what is rock hounding? 1297 01:02:02,800 --> 01:02:04,720 Speaker 3: What is what is rock hounding? 1298 01:02:04,760 --> 01:02:08,439 Speaker 2: It's like lifting up rocks and like I don't even those. 1299 01:02:08,600 --> 01:02:09,800 Speaker 6: It's mineral collecting. 1300 01:02:10,000 --> 01:02:11,720 Speaker 7: So she proposes, he says, yes. 1301 01:02:12,000 --> 01:02:14,440 Speaker 8: Well, it's been close to a couple of years now 1302 01:02:14,520 --> 01:02:18,920 Speaker 8: since everything started. We have a beautiful daughter together, Arianna adopted. 1303 01:02:19,160 --> 01:02:21,600 Speaker 8: We had issues, she wouldn't be able to give birth. Okay, 1304 01:02:21,880 --> 01:02:25,000 Speaker 8: our dogs are clowns and dufuses. Michelle and Nicole have 1305 01:02:25,160 --> 01:02:26,680 Speaker 8: met and we are all friends again. 1306 01:02:26,800 --> 01:02:28,120 Speaker 7: They actually hang out a lot together. 1307 01:02:28,600 --> 01:02:30,240 Speaker 8: She has moved on and we still do a lot 1308 01:02:30,240 --> 01:02:32,520 Speaker 8: of our favorite hobbies together as a group or separately. 1309 01:02:32,720 --> 01:02:35,760 Speaker 8: With the vind and us being at home NonStop together. 1310 01:02:35,920 --> 01:02:39,240 Speaker 8: It's been just fine. Were things perfect? No, but nothing 1311 01:02:39,280 --> 01:02:41,480 Speaker 8: ever is. We had our issues in the beginning and 1312 01:02:41,600 --> 01:02:47,040 Speaker 8: still squabble over stupid things at time. Okay, as far 1313 01:02:47,120 --> 01:02:51,440 Speaker 8: as these go, sounds like it is kind of working out. Okay, 1314 01:02:51,760 --> 01:02:57,520 Speaker 8: Like is this a strange circumstance, sure, but like congrats, I. 1315 01:02:58,200 --> 01:03:00,680 Speaker 6: Just feel like it's starting with a poison pill. She 1316 01:03:00,800 --> 01:03:04,200 Speaker 6: sent you that letter, She sent you that letter. She said, blah, 1317 01:03:04,200 --> 01:03:06,160 Speaker 6: blah blah, blah blah. I'll do anything, I'll marry you, 1318 01:03:06,240 --> 01:03:08,360 Speaker 6: I'll blow up my whole life. And I feel like 1319 01:03:08,480 --> 01:03:11,400 Speaker 6: at some point it's gonna come back around and she's 1320 01:03:11,440 --> 01:03:13,080 Speaker 6: gonna say I left. 1321 01:03:13,160 --> 01:03:16,360 Speaker 2: Everything for you, And I don't know. 1322 01:03:16,480 --> 01:03:21,520 Speaker 6: They seem incredibly fine right now, right now, fine, No, 1323 01:03:21,640 --> 01:03:22,560 Speaker 6: they seem great. 1324 01:03:22,760 --> 01:03:23,480 Speaker 7: Here's what I'll say. 1325 01:03:23,760 --> 01:03:27,880 Speaker 8: I'm glad that these two people found each other, you know, Like, 1326 01:03:28,040 --> 01:03:31,520 Speaker 8: I'm glad that we're not reading another Reddit story that's like, 1327 01:03:32,000 --> 01:03:35,160 Speaker 8: so I got this letter for my ies, Like what like, yeah, 1328 01:03:35,400 --> 01:03:37,960 Speaker 8: I mean that they are figuring this out together and 1329 01:03:38,080 --> 01:03:39,680 Speaker 8: nobody else has to figure it out. 1330 01:03:40,000 --> 01:03:41,919 Speaker 6: It's a positive ending for sure. 1331 01:03:42,400 --> 01:03:46,040 Speaker 8: Well so far. The update to everyone that was part 1332 01:03:46,080 --> 01:03:49,000 Speaker 8: of the initial journey, I hope you've enjoyed this follow up. 1333 01:03:49,200 --> 01:03:51,520 Speaker 8: This was the best decision, and my only regret is 1334 01:03:51,560 --> 01:03:54,520 Speaker 8: that we didn't reconcile our relationship earlier. This has gone 1335 01:03:54,560 --> 01:03:56,600 Speaker 8: by in a flash, and honestly, I can't wait to 1336 01:03:56,600 --> 01:03:58,680 Speaker 8: see what the future holds for us. Each day is 1337 01:03:58,720 --> 01:04:01,320 Speaker 8: refreshing and a smile leaves my faith yet to spend 1338 01:04:01,360 --> 01:04:03,680 Speaker 8: my life with not only my first love and childhood friend, 1339 01:04:03,960 --> 01:04:05,920 Speaker 8: but also with great friends and family that are always 1340 01:04:05,960 --> 01:04:06,680 Speaker 8: there for us both