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Speaker 2: Good mornings we were, and welcome to the Not Dumps

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Speaker 2: podcast on the Athletic Network. It's Thursday, January ninth, twenty

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Speaker 2: twenty five. I'm Jay Skeats here in the Classic Factory.

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Speaker 2: Next to me the Bear and one A top shot boy,

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Speaker 2: Trey Kirby, hey hey over yonder making the magic happen.

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Speaker 2: Super producer Jad Hella. There he is and finally, yes,

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Speaker 2: he is still outside paying off his Pickham loss.

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Speaker 1: It's tastmel what's up everybody? Day four? Here being outside

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Speaker 1: definitely the coldest one, yes.

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Speaker 2: And it's gotten colder and colder as the week has

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Speaker 2: gone on. We are showing right now minus four celsius,

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Speaker 2: which is about twenty five fahrenheit. But JD said task

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Speaker 2: it's not as windy at least.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I think he's right. I will definitely be covering

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Speaker 1: up my face because my face is a little colder

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Speaker 1: than it was yesterday. I felt like Trey mentioned I

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Speaker 1: should bring a ball of clava. I don't have one

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Speaker 1: of those, but I do have this snooze snood. Everybody

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Speaker 1: needs a snood.

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Speaker 2: I still don't know really what a snood is.

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Speaker 3: This it's a scarf, It's a scarf, but like if

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Speaker 3: the ends were attached, So it's a big soul.

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Speaker 1: Yes, here, I'll let you visually see it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, show.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's that it's a.

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Speaker 2: Scarf that's attached at the end. It's a great way

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Speaker 2: to put it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's not attached to your clothes or that or that.

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Speaker 2: All right, well, let's try and get through this show

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Speaker 2: as quickly as possible. Here today, I get tasted inside.

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Speaker 2: We did have another weggie, which is great weggie number

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Speaker 2: nineteen on the season. It happened in Indianapolis last night

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Speaker 2: Bulls Pacers and this was Kobe White with the three

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Speaker 2: point weggie. Nice stick job there. Funny to hear both

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Speaker 2: of the broadcast, both the Pacers and the Bulls talk

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Speaker 2: about this one. You know. Stacy King says we need

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Speaker 2: like fruit of the loom sponsorship and Quinn Buckner doesn't

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Speaker 2: seem to like talking about weggies. So it's great, it's great.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, this is a monster blowout, so something exciting to talk.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Quinn Bucketer called it as it was in the

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Speaker 1: air before wedge that's.

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Speaker 2: Well stuck in there, so that's nice. We were getting

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Speaker 2: some leggies here over the last couple of nights. But

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Speaker 2: let's get into the big topic today. It was the

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Speaker 2: Cavaliers beating the Thunder in a meeting of the NBA's

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Speaker 2: top seeds. Cleve ends Okase's fifteen game win streak. They

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Speaker 2: improved to thirty two and four, a start so hot

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Speaker 2: that they're on pace to match the Warriors record of

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Speaker 2: seventy three regular season wins back in fifteen sixteen. But

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Speaker 2: task Man, I don't know about you. It felt like

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Speaker 2: the game of the year to this point. But I'm

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Speaker 2: interested to hear your big takeaways from Cleveland beating Okase.

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Speaker 1: That definitely was the biggest game. I'm glad it came

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Speaker 1: through because so the NBA was wishing that it came through.

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Speaker 1: I mean, they flexed this game. It wasn't a nationally

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Speaker 1: televised game until Deceummer, and they said we need to

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Speaker 1: put the top two teams on national TV, and it

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Speaker 1: came through on both sides. I know I'm going to

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Speaker 1: start talking about Cleveland, but first, it was great to

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Speaker 1: see Oka see play better than they did in the

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Speaker 1: NBA Cup Final, and this was a great performance. They've

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Speaker 1: got to show their faces in the playoffs in a

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Speaker 1: different way. As the number one seed this year, the

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Speaker 1: Cavs in the same boat. I think we see now

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Speaker 1: that the Boston Celtics aren't going to what they did

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Speaker 1: last year and just run their way to the final.

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Speaker 1: Cleveland showed that they are capable of playing with anybody.

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Speaker 1: And when I say anybody, I mean anybody on their

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Speaker 1: team is able to play. When Donovan Mitchell isn't all

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Speaker 1: that big a factor in each game, Dagnall doubled him,

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Speaker 1: They got Lou Dort on him. They made sure that

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Speaker 1: Donovan Mitchell didn't get into a flow, and that happened.

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Speaker 1: Don Mitchell scored eleven points and the Cleveland Cavaliers still

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Speaker 1: won this game. Don Mitchell's first bucket was just before half.

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Speaker 1: It was a beautiful dunk. But really with the Cleveland Cavaliers,

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Speaker 1: of their supporting guys. They had seven guys in double digits.

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Speaker 1: Darius Carland came through big time, Evan Mobley and Jared Allen.

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Speaker 1: Is where the focus should be because it was the biggs

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Speaker 1: that made the difference. This was a close game. At

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Speaker 1: the end of three quarters, Kenny Atkinson being interviewed as

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Speaker 1: castage coaches said, well, this is great.

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Speaker 2: Wish I was watching this coaching.

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Speaker 1: It didn't it seemed like he was the NBA head

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Speaker 1: But his guys came out and performed. But this was

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Speaker 1: and as I said, the Biggs came through. Jared Allen

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Speaker 1: point game, and then the Cavs get more offensive rebounds.

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Speaker 1: Obviously resulted in that odd Donovan Mitchell Donovan Mitchell coaches

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Speaker 1: Evan Mobley had the opportunity in a three point game

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Speaker 1: at him again and he scored over top of him. Huge,

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Speaker 2: Yes?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I good to totally agree. So they're up and

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Speaker 1: then Daris Carland thirty seconds left, as Donovan Mitchell off

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Speaker 1: made it then a seven point game. It was over.

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Speaker 1: But throughout the game, even though Domin Mitchell, it wasn't himself.

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Speaker 1: and over and over again. Evan Mobley seven assists, Jared

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Speaker 1: period was fantastic. Mobile twenty one points, ten boards, seven assists,

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Speaker 1: Allen twenty five points, eleven boards. Yeah, a lot of

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Speaker 1: chet Holmgren on the other side. But Darius Carlin came

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Speaker 1: Carland could show up in big moments. I think this

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Speaker 2: Yeah, this one went back and forth tray for forty

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Speaker 2: eight minutes. Almost the entirety of this game. Thirty lead changes,

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Speaker 2: eight ties again, tons of end to end action, some

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Speaker 2: starmaking plays, the role players stepping up. I'm seeing comparisons

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Speaker 3: I think by far the game of the year. It

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Speaker 3: the final minute. I feel like a cold night in

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Speaker 3: Cleveland on a Wednesday is a go to meme for

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Speaker 3: talking about the NBA. Do you care about a random

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Speaker 3: game in January? I cared about this game a whole lot.

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Speaker 3: And it was intense the entire way through, and it

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Speaker 3: felt like both teams were playing great defenses, but the

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Speaker 3: offense was better from both teams. One hundred and twenty

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Speaker 3: nine for the Calves, the most the thunder of allowed

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Speaker 3: this entire season. The Calves as well a good defense.

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Speaker 3: They gave one hundred and twenty two. The defense was

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Speaker 3: I'm thinking now the last two games the Thunder lost,

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Speaker 3: I'm talking about the NBA Cup Final, which isn't included

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Speaker 3: in so called winning streak. Nonetheless, the last two games

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Speaker 3: in the Cavs who ran double bigs and it was

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Speaker 3: a factor absolutely. Like Tass mentioned, twenty one to ten

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Speaker 3: They assisted each other three different times in this game,

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Speaker 3: and I thought it was such a big show of

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Speaker 3: I don't think they wanted him on Hartenstein because Struce

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Speaker 3: It end out being the biggest, baddest dude for the

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Speaker 3: finished over the top. That was a three point possession.

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Speaker 3: That play, that task mentioned with all the offensive rebounds

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Speaker 3: that took fifty five seconds. That was a clock killing

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Speaker 3: the first down to really end the game. Great stuff

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Speaker 3: Mitchell and Garland. Obviously Mitchell didn't shoot the ball well,

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Speaker 3: They've got two quality ball handlers and they seemed completely

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Speaker 3: unfazed by Cason Wallace and lou Dort. Dort did a

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Speaker 3: good job on Mitchell, but it wasn't them turning over

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Speaker 3: to score. This was just awesome, awesome, game. All the

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Speaker 3: role players showed up. Yeah, for the Cavaliers, crowd was

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Speaker 3: hYP right stuff. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I think we were helped out tasked that both these

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Speaker 2: to not only prepare for the other team, but obviously

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Speaker 2: to get rest for all of your guys. I think

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Speaker 2: that helped add to like this the elevated atmosphere of

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Speaker 2: of it. Oh, that's where it almost felt like maybe

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Speaker 2: a potential finals preview. There's a lot of time off

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Speaker 2: That was cool. Were you surprised by the overturned call

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Speaker 2: there where the Caves really did pull away with that

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Speaker 2: critical challenge off of the Mitchell dort did he push

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Speaker 2: off rebound incident? Were you shocked that they did overturn

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Speaker 2: it in the end to then give the Cavs another chance?

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Speaker 1: I never know what to expect. In all honesty, I

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Speaker 1: To me, I understand why they overturned it. I wouldn't have.

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Speaker 1: Did you think it was an odd call?

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Speaker 2: So the call for those who didn't watch the game

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Speaker 2: is obviously Mitchell gets whistled for sort of push and

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Speaker 2: That's call of foul hold on Kenny Akinson and the Cavs.

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Speaker 2: They're going to challenge that, and yeah, and you slow

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Speaker 2: that was great. It wasn't, unfortunately, like the NBA Cup

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Speaker 2: we could have some more build up as these teams

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Speaker 3: I mean, who knows. Honestly, you think yes. But also

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess a lot of the Cavaliers players were

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, there's no doubt that they've grown. Darius Garland

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Speaker 2: You're right, I mean we like a lot of people

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Speaker 2: and they did what most teams do is now just

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Speaker 2: see if they can unlock it. And so far, so amazing.

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Speaker 2: I mean they're thirty two and four. Are you doing

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Speaker 3: Because JB. Bickerstaff has been awesome for the Detroit Pistons,

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Perfect, Yeah, everybody's coming out a win win winner.

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Speaker 1: Do you have a crow by right?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? But I love that you can hear it, but

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Speaker 2: The one hole maybe in The Thunder's elite number one

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Speaker 2: vaunted defense is that they do allow their opponents to

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Speaker 2: than Okay, see at eleven point three. And again, this

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Speaker 2: one thing they've sort of decided to give up. Cleveland

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Speaker 2: it was reminiscent a little bit of the Mavericks series

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Speaker 2: things right. They were getting killed on the glass. Derek

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Speaker 2: Leiley was a menace. So they go and get Hartenstein

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Speaker 3: That'll be a lot of arms, a lot of court

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Speaker 3: a recipe for how you can beat the Thunder. You

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Speaker 3: just got to crush him on the glass and may

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Speaker 3: all your threes, Okay, good luck. Do that four times

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Speaker 3: in seven games is exactly what the Thunder are gonna

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Speaker 3: be arguing. But that's why you like to have home

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Speaker 3: court advantage the Calves. I think that was a factor, definitely,

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Speaker 3: Donovan Mitchell said after the game. Everybody that came in

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Speaker 3: did something positive to affect the game. That's a team win. Absolutely.

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Speaker 3: Three threes for Dean Wade, five for Max Strus's hair

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Speaker 3: is too beautiful.

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Speaker 3: That hair is too pretty to be on an NBA court.

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Speaker 3: fire again. It was incredible to see him come through

432
00:20:17,119 --> 00:20:18,640
Speaker 3: like that. I was trying to think, who's the equivalent

433
00:20:18,680 --> 00:20:20,639
Speaker 3: on the thunder. I think Wallace probably would have been

434
00:20:20,640 --> 00:20:22,840
Speaker 3: the guy. He had a nice game, but getting fifteen

435
00:20:22,880 --> 00:20:25,960
Speaker 3: points from ty Jerome, him cooking off the dribble time

436
00:20:26,000 --> 00:20:28,160
Speaker 3: and time again, that was huge for Cleveland.

437
00:20:28,359 --> 00:20:33,119
Speaker 1: Yeah, and those corner passes are available because Evan Mobley

438
00:20:33,240 --> 00:20:37,600
Speaker 1: is just damn good at passing. Jared Allen. Yeah, those

439
00:20:37,640 --> 00:20:40,240
Speaker 1: are passes that Evan Mobley didn't make last year on

440
00:20:40,320 --> 00:20:43,399
Speaker 1: a regular basis. He's grown period, and Jared Allen was

441
00:20:43,520 --> 00:20:46,040
Speaker 1: really good at it. I think we were skipping over

442
00:20:46,119 --> 00:20:49,440
Speaker 1: what you mentioned Cason Wallace, who would probably go to

443
00:20:49,520 --> 00:20:51,800
Speaker 1: a bench in this type of series, In this type

444
00:20:51,840 --> 00:20:55,480
Speaker 1: of matchup, if they're throwing out homegrin and Hartenstein, Kason

445
00:20:55,480 --> 00:20:56,960
Speaker 1: Wallas would be on the bench. We'd see what he

446
00:20:56,960 --> 00:21:01,160
Speaker 1: would produce off the bench. I just to mention Jillen

447
00:21:01,200 --> 00:21:05,040
Speaker 1: Williams was awesome for the thunder. Shay was awesome and

448
00:21:05,200 --> 00:21:07,560
Speaker 1: his role and Hartenstein had to do probably a little

449
00:21:07,600 --> 00:21:09,440
Speaker 1: more than they wanted with his eighteen points. But Jayleen

450
00:21:09,440 --> 00:21:12,639
Speaker 1: Williams dropping twenty five and Shay dropping thirty one, and

451
00:21:13,200 --> 00:21:15,760
Speaker 1: you know, I'm in my brain, I'm already putting everybody

452
00:21:15,800 --> 00:21:17,879
Speaker 1: in their pecking order. What is Cason Wallis doing off

453
00:21:17,920 --> 00:21:19,520
Speaker 1: the bench? What does Cruso doing off the bench if

454
00:21:19,520 --> 00:21:22,320
Speaker 1: they're all there? But everybody was great. It really came

455
00:21:22,400 --> 00:21:25,119
Speaker 1: down to the last two minutes of this game and

456
00:21:25,480 --> 00:21:29,840
Speaker 1: the bigs out bigging being being a little just a

457
00:21:29,840 --> 00:21:31,920
Speaker 1: little more aggressive and just coming up with those huge

458
00:21:31,960 --> 00:21:32,640
Speaker 1: offensive boards.

459
00:21:32,760 --> 00:21:35,000
Speaker 2: Oh man, like when Jared Allen had that block on

460
00:21:35,119 --> 00:21:38,000
Speaker 2: Hartenstein which then went the other way. I think resulted

461
00:21:38,040 --> 00:21:41,159
Speaker 2: in a Donovan Mitchell corner three. Yeah, in transition that

462
00:21:41,200 --> 00:21:42,960
Speaker 2: put them up seven. That was huge. Jared Allen was

463
00:21:43,000 --> 00:21:45,760
Speaker 2: probably the best player last night overall. Mobilely had the

464
00:21:45,840 --> 00:21:48,440
Speaker 2: huge bucket. Garland did well to ice the game, but yeah,

465
00:21:48,520 --> 00:21:51,879
Speaker 2: Jared Allen was a beast and the playmaking your right

466
00:21:51,960 --> 00:21:56,920
Speaker 2: tass from both those guys awesome. Any random notes from

467
00:21:57,280 --> 00:21:59,800
Speaker 2: this one, anything that you wrote down jotted down.

468
00:21:59,680 --> 00:22:03,000
Speaker 3: From this game, Mostly just about Max Strus's hair and

469
00:22:03,200 --> 00:22:05,080
Speaker 3: Richard Jefferson I thought was pretty good on the call.

470
00:22:06,200 --> 00:22:08,520
Speaker 3: We're good together. Yeah, they found a mix. I think

471
00:22:08,560 --> 00:22:10,280
Speaker 3: this mix is better than when it was Reddick in

472
00:22:10,320 --> 00:22:13,439
Speaker 3: there for Richard Jefferson last year when was on all

473
00:22:13,520 --> 00:22:14,639
Speaker 3: and why do you.

474
00:22:14,640 --> 00:22:15,080
Speaker 2: Think that is?

475
00:22:15,320 --> 00:22:17,399
Speaker 3: He's got a different voice. He's got it. He's got

476
00:22:17,520 --> 00:22:20,480
Speaker 3: like a louder, more expressive voice, and he's a funny guy. Okay,

477
00:22:20,560 --> 00:22:22,399
Speaker 3: they should put him in Cleveland more often because they

478
00:22:22,440 --> 00:22:25,800
Speaker 3: were honoring the guy on the Jumbo trun breaks.

479
00:22:25,920 --> 00:22:26,719
Speaker 2: That was awesome.

480
00:22:27,560 --> 00:22:27,760
Speaker 1: Test.

481
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Speaker 2: Do you have any random notes from this game this broadcast?

482
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I have to agree with Richard Jefferson and I'm

483
00:22:34,240 --> 00:22:36,880
Speaker 1: gonna geek out here for a second. But the NBA

484
00:22:37,000 --> 00:22:40,080
Speaker 1: Finals broadcast crew has not been decided quite yet. It's

485
00:22:40,160 --> 00:22:43,040
Speaker 1: Mike Breen, Doris Burke, and then the third is a

486
00:22:43,119 --> 00:22:45,480
Speaker 1: question mark. It could be Richard Jefferson. Yep, it could

487
00:22:45,520 --> 00:22:48,000
Speaker 1: be Jay Billis, it could be Tim Legler, but it's

488
00:22:48,040 --> 00:22:50,440
Speaker 1: gotta be Richard Jefferson. I mean, they just they just

489
00:22:50,520 --> 00:22:54,000
Speaker 1: work so well. It is. It's a stark difference between

490
00:22:54,680 --> 00:22:57,560
Speaker 1: Doris and him, and they play off together extremely well.

491
00:22:57,600 --> 00:23:00,280
Speaker 1: They set each other up. Doris Burke, who's not you know,

492
00:23:00,400 --> 00:23:03,000
Speaker 1: the setup announcer was setting up Richard Jefferson just to

493
00:23:03,040 --> 00:23:06,120
Speaker 1: geek it. Richard Jefferson I thought was extremely funny. Evan

494
00:23:06,160 --> 00:23:09,280
Speaker 1: Mobley had an airball from the corner that landed in

495
00:23:09,400 --> 00:23:13,200
Speaker 1: Jared Allen's hands underneath the hoop. So Richard Jeffers said this,

496
00:23:13,280 --> 00:23:15,600
Speaker 1: said they talk about those big to big passes, and

497
00:23:15,680 --> 00:23:17,919
Speaker 1: everybody just started giggling. That was perfect.

498
00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:18,400
Speaker 2: I was good.

499
00:23:18,560 --> 00:23:21,040
Speaker 1: We didn't get enough jokes last year in the finals,

500
00:23:21,040 --> 00:23:22,520
Speaker 1: so I gotta agree with you guys. You guys said

501
00:23:22,520 --> 00:23:22,960
Speaker 1: it at the time.

502
00:23:23,640 --> 00:23:27,479
Speaker 3: Reddick's yeah and endorsed are similar commentary styles.

503
00:23:27,480 --> 00:23:30,000
Speaker 2: I think yeah, I did speak of like the broadcast.

504
00:23:30,040 --> 00:23:31,119
Speaker 2: It just made me laugh. I think it was a

505
00:23:31,160 --> 00:23:33,600
Speaker 2: bit of a brain fart. It must have been early

506
00:23:33,640 --> 00:23:36,119
Speaker 2: in the game. It was a Cassidy Hubbarth sort of

507
00:23:36,800 --> 00:23:38,200
Speaker 2: you know what, what do you call those like where

508
00:23:38,200 --> 00:23:40,080
Speaker 2: they chime in while the game action's going. I'm going

509
00:23:40,119 --> 00:23:42,159
Speaker 2: to add a little color right to this story. For

510
00:23:42,280 --> 00:23:48,480
Speaker 2: some reason she called SGA Shay Alexander dropped the g completely.

511
00:23:48,520 --> 00:23:49,159
Speaker 3: I don't need it.

512
00:23:49,280 --> 00:23:50,520
Speaker 1: I was like, well, I've never heard that.

513
00:23:50,680 --> 00:23:53,640
Speaker 2: It blew my mind for some reason. But little brain fart.

514
00:23:53,680 --> 00:23:58,160
Speaker 1: But one thing to add about Shay Alexander. The intros.

515
00:23:58,200 --> 00:24:02,440
Speaker 1: I enjoyed the intros. It was a loud arena. Richard Jefferson,

516
00:24:02,520 --> 00:24:04,840
Speaker 1: Doris Burg, Mike Bring doing the setups, and up comes

517
00:24:04,880 --> 00:24:08,240
Speaker 1: the graphic where they're trying to promote Shay gilges Alexander

518
00:24:08,320 --> 00:24:11,280
Speaker 1: as they're pushing him as a star. Shay is there

519
00:24:11,920 --> 00:24:15,440
Speaker 1: with his shoes on, but they're untied. Very weird.

520
00:24:15,560 --> 00:24:15,760
Speaker 2: Look.

521
00:24:16,080 --> 00:24:24,880
Speaker 1: I thought poop shoes too. Yeah, just an odd look.

522
00:24:26,040 --> 00:24:29,159
Speaker 2: Great game, I guess. I saw people saying there's some

523
00:24:29,280 --> 00:24:32,200
Speaker 2: complications with NBA's YouTube page and the highlights this morning.

524
00:24:32,600 --> 00:24:33,800
Speaker 3: There's hardly anything up there.

525
00:24:34,160 --> 00:24:36,920
Speaker 2: What a bad time here? Yeah, the one game you

526
00:24:37,040 --> 00:24:37,520
Speaker 2: really want to.

527
00:24:37,480 --> 00:24:39,719
Speaker 3: Get those highlights up the crazy one, and they got

528
00:24:39,800 --> 00:24:44,280
Speaker 3: a thing up that's like fourth quarter uncut, like it's

529
00:24:44,280 --> 00:24:46,399
Speaker 3: a big game. I was like, cool, man, I'll rewatch

530
00:24:46,480 --> 00:24:48,520
Speaker 3: this whole fourth quarter. But it was only like ten

531
00:24:48,600 --> 00:24:51,080
Speaker 3: minutes long. It was like, so it was kind of

532
00:24:51,400 --> 00:24:54,639
Speaker 3: doesn't make any sense. He jumps from like eleven minutes

533
00:24:54,640 --> 00:25:00,600
Speaker 3: to three minutes. I was like, significantly, Yeah, and I

534
00:25:00,680 --> 00:25:03,760
Speaker 3: think that they might have one other one, but they

535
00:25:03,840 --> 00:25:06,480
Speaker 3: had none of the other games as well. Yeah, people

536
00:25:06,520 --> 00:25:08,680
Speaker 3: are too excited and also maybe they couldn't go into

537
00:25:08,680 --> 00:25:09,800
Speaker 3: the office. I don't know what's going on.

538
00:25:10,560 --> 00:25:12,240
Speaker 2: A lot of clip pro is down for everybody.

539
00:25:14,200 --> 00:25:15,040
Speaker 1: Let me riddle of this.

540
00:25:15,240 --> 00:25:17,480
Speaker 3: Okay, when you're watching these two teams, the two best

541
00:25:17,520 --> 00:25:19,360
Speaker 3: teams in the league, playing the game of the year

542
00:25:19,520 --> 00:25:22,560
Speaker 3: so far, we're still a month to the trade deadline,

543
00:25:23,200 --> 00:25:25,720
Speaker 3: either team or you're like, they should make any sort

544
00:25:25,720 --> 00:25:26,160
Speaker 3: of a move.

545
00:25:27,080 --> 00:25:30,640
Speaker 2: I honestly don't see it. For the Cavaliers, if I'm

546
00:25:30,640 --> 00:25:32,720
Speaker 2: being honest, I think they're more set with their sort

547
00:25:32,760 --> 00:25:36,399
Speaker 2: of roster construction. I think, well, they could do it

548
00:25:36,440 --> 00:25:40,840
Speaker 2: because they have a million draft picks. Another creator for Okay, see,

549
00:25:41,119 --> 00:25:43,480
Speaker 2: I will say in this game last night the offense

550
00:25:43,520 --> 00:25:46,680
Speaker 2: for Cleveland just came easier. It was more and flow.

551
00:25:47,000 --> 00:25:49,000
Speaker 2: And this is against the best defense for the most part.

552
00:25:49,480 --> 00:25:51,560
Speaker 2: Whereas that you know the okay, see the way they play.

553
00:25:51,600 --> 00:25:53,880
Speaker 2: At times it feels I mean sometimes it's like shay

554
00:25:54,880 --> 00:25:57,720
Speaker 2: get yeah, do your magic and he'll hit the shot

555
00:25:57,800 --> 00:26:00,440
Speaker 2: more times than not or Jalen. It's like just feels

556
00:26:00,440 --> 00:26:02,520
Speaker 2: a little more tough. Sometimes. No, there's no Chick, there's

557
00:26:02,560 --> 00:26:04,840
Speaker 2: no cruiser. They don't have their whole team, but maybe

558
00:26:04,920 --> 00:26:06,960
Speaker 2: one more creator, like just off the bench. I could

559
00:26:07,119 --> 00:26:08,440
Speaker 2: see helping them, but that was it.

560
00:26:08,880 --> 00:26:09,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, I kind of agree.

561
00:26:09,920 --> 00:26:12,119
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's where Cason Walls maybe off the bench is

562
00:26:12,160 --> 00:26:14,480
Speaker 1: a little bit different than in the starting role. Yeah,

563
00:26:14,960 --> 00:26:17,200
Speaker 1: he is not Tigrum. He's not ta Rum, that's for sure.

564
00:26:17,320 --> 00:26:21,440
Speaker 1: It's a different It's a he was awesome, I will say,

565
00:26:22,320 --> 00:26:25,880
Speaker 1: thinking of the bench. One note, Kenrich Williams, the guy

566
00:26:26,480 --> 00:26:30,160
Speaker 1: had a one legged fade away in the biggest game

567
00:26:30,200 --> 00:26:33,920
Speaker 1: of the season. Kenrich Williams just shooting off one leg.

568
00:26:35,160 --> 00:26:38,680
Speaker 1: I was sitting with you know, all the old old heads,

569
00:26:38,720 --> 00:26:42,240
Speaker 1: thinking how does he do that? Just just shooting like

570
00:26:42,320 --> 00:26:45,160
Speaker 1: that number one, number two? I think on the YouTube

571
00:26:45,240 --> 00:26:48,000
Speaker 1: and the NBA's YouTube page. What they should have is

572
00:26:48,480 --> 00:26:52,720
Speaker 1: a video compiling all of Ken Richard Williams's haircuts, because

573
00:26:52,760 --> 00:26:54,879
Speaker 1: I thought his haircut was even. He's got a new

574
00:26:54,880 --> 00:26:58,120
Speaker 1: haircut he changed this season, just a little I don't

575
00:26:58,119 --> 00:26:59,960
Speaker 1: know what you'd call that thing, but a little time

576
00:27:00,000 --> 00:27:02,440
Speaker 1: any little patch on the bottom, but it's kind of

577
00:27:02,480 --> 00:27:07,080
Speaker 1: shaved now til yeah, no, the ducktail's gone. I say patch,

578
00:27:07,119 --> 00:27:10,080
Speaker 1: but it's gone now. It's like it's different. I'm putting

579
00:27:10,119 --> 00:27:13,200
Speaker 1: a video together. Okay, yeah, so were gone.

580
00:27:13,280 --> 00:27:15,040
Speaker 2: All right, let's move on. There were some other games

581
00:27:15,080 --> 00:27:17,440
Speaker 2: last night. We'll touch on a couple of them, and

582
00:27:17,440 --> 00:27:19,679
Speaker 2: then we have some news. But Chris Middleton came off

583
00:27:19,720 --> 00:27:22,320
Speaker 2: the bench for the Milwaukee Bucks last night in a

584
00:27:22,359 --> 00:27:26,000
Speaker 2: win against the Spurs eight points. But Doc Rivers TK

585
00:27:27,000 --> 00:27:30,320
Speaker 2: was pretty emphatic about, Hey, the reason we're bringing Middleton

586
00:27:30,359 --> 00:27:32,280
Speaker 2: off the bench and he's coming out of the starting lineup,

587
00:27:32,359 --> 00:27:36,280
Speaker 2: it's a health based decision here rather than his sort

588
00:27:36,320 --> 00:27:39,840
Speaker 2: of on court performance. You know, the the idea that

589
00:27:39,920 --> 00:27:41,680
Speaker 2: he wasn't like moving all that. Well, we're trying to

590
00:27:41,720 --> 00:27:43,440
Speaker 2: cut his minutes back and maybe just in a in

591
00:27:43,480 --> 00:27:45,160
Speaker 2: a roll off the bench, it'll work a little bit better.

592
00:27:45,240 --> 00:27:48,400
Speaker 2: But what are your your thoughts on on moving Middleton

593
00:27:48,440 --> 00:27:48,920
Speaker 2: to the Pine.

594
00:27:49,320 --> 00:27:52,320
Speaker 3: I don't think it's gonna last for very long, Doc Rivers,

595
00:27:52,400 --> 00:27:55,840
Speaker 3: benching a veteran doesn't seem like something that happens that regularly.

596
00:27:56,000 --> 00:27:57,520
Speaker 3: I guess it did at the beginning of the season.

597
00:27:58,160 --> 00:28:00,520
Speaker 3: Bodies bringing in a VET as well. The Bucks do

598
00:28:00,680 --> 00:28:02,800
Speaker 3: need a playmaker on the second unit. I agree with that,

599
00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:06,080
Speaker 3: so you can understand why Middleton kind of leading those

600
00:28:06,160 --> 00:28:08,360
Speaker 3: units could be a thing. But the best Milwaukee team

601
00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:11,680
Speaker 3: will have Chris Middleton starting functioning as a third ball

602
00:28:11,760 --> 00:28:16,560
Speaker 3: handler outside of Giannis and Dame, So you know, I

603
00:28:16,600 --> 00:28:18,920
Speaker 3: think it's just fine. A quality vet performance by the

604
00:28:18,960 --> 00:28:22,960
Speaker 3: Bucks in this one nineteen threes, twenty six assists, only

605
00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:25,880
Speaker 3: eleven turnovers. They just kept getting good shot after good

606
00:28:25,920 --> 00:28:28,160
Speaker 3: shot after a good shot, and did a great job

607
00:28:28,320 --> 00:28:30,240
Speaker 3: on Wenby. He had seven points in the first quarter

608
00:28:30,280 --> 00:28:32,560
Speaker 3: and he finished with ten on ten shots. They were

609
00:28:32,600 --> 00:28:35,000
Speaker 3: super physical with him. They really amped up the ball

610
00:28:35,080 --> 00:28:37,720
Speaker 3: pressure on the guards who were bringing it up, and

611
00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:39,960
Speaker 3: san Antonio really just couldn't get into their offense.

612
00:28:40,080 --> 00:28:42,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, two of those Wemby points were pretty spectacular that

613
00:28:42,960 --> 00:28:45,120
Speaker 2: I don't even know what you would call that. So

614
00:28:45,400 --> 00:28:49,040
Speaker 2: that lucky flio. Yeah, that was pretty lucky nuts to

615
00:28:49,160 --> 00:28:52,040
Speaker 2: just swish perfectly. But you have thoughts on Middleton coming

616
00:28:52,080 --> 00:28:54,280
Speaker 2: off the bench task. I mean again, Doc said we're

617
00:28:54,280 --> 00:28:56,240
Speaker 2: cutting his minutes back a little bit, just trying to

618
00:28:56,280 --> 00:28:58,440
Speaker 2: make sure he gets through this. He's obviously talking about

619
00:28:58,800 --> 00:29:02,720
Speaker 2: the double ankle surgery that Middleton had in the off season,

620
00:29:02,760 --> 00:29:04,400
Speaker 2: and he's slowly been working his way back into shape.

621
00:29:04,440 --> 00:29:06,560
Speaker 1: What do you think, Well, I saw him come off

622
00:29:06,600 --> 00:29:08,800
Speaker 1: the bench yesterday and he had played the two man

623
00:29:08,960 --> 00:29:11,800
Speaker 1: game really well with Yannison on one of his early plays.

624
00:29:11,840 --> 00:29:14,000
Speaker 1: Then he was off the ball and Lillard set him

625
00:29:14,040 --> 00:29:17,080
Speaker 1: up for a three. I think he looks totally fine,

626
00:29:17,120 --> 00:29:20,040
Speaker 1: but yeah, the minutes might work better coming off the bench.

627
00:29:20,640 --> 00:29:22,840
Speaker 1: Just watching this game, maybe it was just me being

628
00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:25,160
Speaker 1: in bed at four am watching this game, but I

629
00:29:25,200 --> 00:29:29,120
Speaker 1: thought it was awesome. I just period. I thought Yanni's

630
00:29:29,200 --> 00:29:34,720
Speaker 1: versus Wemby at times played up very well. I mean early, yeah,

631
00:29:34,800 --> 00:29:37,560
Speaker 1: the one legged three from Wemby. I was watching the

632
00:29:37,840 --> 00:29:41,640
Speaker 1: Bucks broadcast. Wemby hit the three and they immediately cut

633
00:29:42,080 --> 00:29:44,520
Speaker 1: to Pat content Bucks. Pat Conton on the bench and

634
00:29:44,600 --> 00:29:48,240
Speaker 1: he had his eyebrows furrowed, kind of wondering what is that.

635
00:29:48,720 --> 00:29:50,560
Speaker 1: It almost looked like a TV show. Here goes this

636
00:29:50,960 --> 00:29:53,200
Speaker 1: one legged shot from the guy cut to a guy

637
00:29:53,240 --> 00:29:56,000
Speaker 1: who can't believe what he's seeing. And really it was

638
00:29:56,160 --> 00:30:01,600
Speaker 1: a beautiful shot. But then Yannis guarded Wemby on one possession.

639
00:30:01,800 --> 00:30:04,840
Speaker 1: He just got down and guarded Wenby for a good

640
00:30:04,880 --> 00:30:07,600
Speaker 1: twenty possessions and Wemby passed out after a while. Now

641
00:30:07,640 --> 00:30:09,600
Speaker 1: Wemby got Giannis a couple times with a couple of

642
00:30:09,600 --> 00:30:12,880
Speaker 1: beautiful blocks on the other end. But yeah, Janis was

643
00:30:13,040 --> 00:30:15,920
Speaker 1: just ready. It seemed like the NBA Cup Game Part two.

644
00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:19,120
Speaker 1: I know the Bucks got into a little bit of

645
00:30:19,160 --> 00:30:22,480
Speaker 1: a lull after the NBA Cup win, but I felt

646
00:30:22,520 --> 00:30:25,840
Speaker 1: like Janice looked exactly the same. He had beautiful footwork

647
00:30:25,920 --> 00:30:29,480
Speaker 1: on his dunks. He was making beautiful passes outside to

648
00:30:29,640 --> 00:30:32,280
Speaker 1: brook down Low, who had a monstrous game, hitting like

649
00:30:32,440 --> 00:30:35,680
Speaker 1: four or was it five threes, and Giannis was passing

650
00:30:35,720 --> 00:30:37,720
Speaker 1: it to a J Green, who really was a huge

651
00:30:37,760 --> 00:30:41,560
Speaker 1: difference in this game making threes. And then he he

652
00:30:41,760 --> 00:30:44,240
Speaker 1: lined up Wemby in his eye and he hit a

653
00:30:44,280 --> 00:30:46,920
Speaker 1: shot right in front of Wemby. Was so he was

654
00:30:46,960 --> 00:30:49,400
Speaker 1: feeling he almost hit a end a first quarter three

655
00:30:49,480 --> 00:30:52,080
Speaker 1: ball from mid court. They were really feeling but Chris

656
00:30:52,120 --> 00:30:55,280
Speaker 1: Paul wouldn't let the Spurs die. I was just an

657
00:30:55,360 --> 00:30:57,560
Speaker 1: awesome performance. He had an in and out dribble with

658
00:30:57,640 --> 00:31:00,320
Speaker 1: three threes in the third quarter. Graphic came him up.

659
00:31:00,840 --> 00:31:04,000
Speaker 1: Only two players in NBA history have at least twenty

660
00:31:04,040 --> 00:31:08,040
Speaker 1: thousand points and ten thousand assists versus Paul, obviously one

661
00:31:08,120 --> 00:31:11,200
Speaker 1: of them Lebron and Lebron the other. They just threw

662
00:31:11,280 --> 00:31:13,480
Speaker 1: that up there, the bucks, you're just thrown throwing up those.

663
00:31:13,840 --> 00:31:17,520
Speaker 1: The other guy had forty thousand points. But uh, yeah,

664
00:31:17,520 --> 00:31:19,600
Speaker 1: I thought this was awesome. I just thought it is

665
00:31:19,720 --> 00:31:22,840
Speaker 1: crazy anything forty thousand points. They're yeah, they're highlighting this

666
00:31:22,920 --> 00:31:23,960
Speaker 1: guy who's got twenty.

667
00:31:23,800 --> 00:31:27,800
Speaker 2: In ten Chris the gate At just double them up.

668
00:31:27,880 --> 00:31:30,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, but it was great. It was great finish.

669
00:31:30,280 --> 00:31:32,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, you said Brooke hit a bunch of threes. It

670
00:31:32,120 --> 00:31:34,720
Speaker 2: was five of eleven. You had eleven three point attempts,

671
00:31:34,720 --> 00:31:36,920
Speaker 2: and then you had Gary Trent Junior perfect from deep

672
00:31:36,960 --> 00:31:40,040
Speaker 2: four to four. Dary Bird he hit four, four to seven.

673
00:31:40,600 --> 00:31:44,600
Speaker 2: Not an utter celebration in sight, though disappointing. Lukenard as

674
00:31:44,640 --> 00:31:47,840
Speaker 2: well just shaking his head. I'm surely ridiculous. Yeah, well done.

675
00:31:48,000 --> 00:31:49,840
Speaker 2: And then Dame hit four as well. Yeah, you said

676
00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:51,560
Speaker 2: a lot of three pointers there from the Bucks.

677
00:31:51,760 --> 00:31:54,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, might be looking like Roy Hebberd out there chasing

678
00:31:54,600 --> 00:31:56,400
Speaker 3: Brook around. He was too far.

679
00:31:56,600 --> 00:31:57,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the key.

680
00:31:57,760 --> 00:31:59,400
Speaker 3: You got to be able to be seven feet tall

681
00:31:59,440 --> 00:32:02,120
Speaker 3: and also from seveneen behind the line, you'll get open looks.

682
00:32:02,160 --> 00:32:04,600
Speaker 3: Eleven three point attempts for Brook Lopez, and they were

683
00:32:04,640 --> 00:32:06,720
Speaker 3: doing it every time. They're like Wenby might be seven

684
00:32:06,720 --> 00:32:07,880
Speaker 3: to five, but he's not eight. Fo't five.

685
00:32:08,040 --> 00:32:11,160
Speaker 2: It's right right, all right. Let's move on to Malik

686
00:32:11,280 --> 00:32:14,040
Speaker 2: Beasley scoring twenty three points to help the Pistons win

687
00:32:14,120 --> 00:32:17,680
Speaker 2: their fifth straight game one thirteen ninety eight over the

688
00:32:17,720 --> 00:32:22,480
Speaker 2: Brooklyn Nets. Task the Pistons are above five hundred. This

689
00:32:22,600 --> 00:32:24,240
Speaker 2: is one of the feel good stories of the NBA.

690
00:32:24,360 --> 00:32:26,520
Speaker 2: What was their record at this point last year, like

691
00:32:26,920 --> 00:32:31,120
Speaker 2: three and thirty four, Yeah, something like that. Yeah, and

692
00:32:31,160 --> 00:32:34,080
Speaker 2: they're nineteen and eighteen now. And this wasn't even a

693
00:32:34,160 --> 00:32:37,360
Speaker 2: monster Kate Cunningham game. This was just like actually, like, oh,

694
00:32:37,800 --> 00:32:39,400
Speaker 2: maybe they are a really good team. Now they're playing

695
00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:41,240
Speaker 2: a team that had nobody playing for the Nets. A

696
00:32:41,360 --> 00:32:43,720
Speaker 2: bad team that is leaning into being bad try and

697
00:32:43,800 --> 00:32:44,520
Speaker 2: capture that flag.

698
00:32:44,600 --> 00:32:44,920
Speaker 3: We get it.

699
00:32:45,040 --> 00:32:47,280
Speaker 2: But they just took care of business because everybody else

700
00:32:47,280 --> 00:32:49,520
Speaker 2: contributed and did their part, especially Beasley with twenty three.

701
00:32:49,720 --> 00:32:53,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, Beasley now in the starting lineup, and that's something

702
00:32:53,240 --> 00:32:55,800
Speaker 1: to admire as well. From this Pistons team. Jade and

703
00:32:55,800 --> 00:32:58,800
Speaker 1: Ivy went down. They've played a bunch of starting lineups

704
00:32:58,840 --> 00:33:02,880
Speaker 1: since Jade and Ivy went down. It's now. Wendell Moore

705
00:33:02,960 --> 00:33:05,280
Speaker 1: Junior started the first one when Ivy was out. Asar

706
00:33:05,400 --> 00:33:08,800
Speaker 1: Thompson started the next one, but then he had an illness,

707
00:33:09,600 --> 00:33:12,840
Speaker 1: so Malik Beasley has started the last couple came through.

708
00:33:13,280 --> 00:33:15,640
Speaker 1: But it's great to see Kate Cunningham this late in

709
00:33:16,560 --> 00:33:20,120
Speaker 1: the season of year four for him being above five hundred, because,

710
00:33:20,120 --> 00:33:21,920
Speaker 1: as we said, the only time he's been above five

711
00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:24,000
Speaker 1: hundred period in his four year career was when they

712
00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:27,080
Speaker 1: were two and one last year. So kudos to them.

713
00:33:27,280 --> 00:33:30,200
Speaker 1: They're playing ball here again. It's January. It feels weird

714
00:33:31,000 --> 00:33:32,280
Speaker 1: that they're above five hundred.

715
00:33:32,520 --> 00:33:34,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean they were. The nets were down pretty

716
00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:37,560
Speaker 2: big in like midway through third quarter, and then you

717
00:33:37,680 --> 00:33:40,160
Speaker 2: had Brooklyn go on a run and you're like, come on, Pistons,

718
00:33:40,160 --> 00:33:41,680
Speaker 2: you should have put this game away. But they counted

719
00:33:41,720 --> 00:33:43,880
Speaker 2: with like a run of their own. Fontechia was awesome.

720
00:33:43,920 --> 00:33:45,880
Speaker 2: He was hitting threes and then it was like way

721
00:33:45,920 --> 00:33:48,040
Speaker 2: out of control and the lead balloon from there. But

722
00:33:48,560 --> 00:33:51,000
Speaker 2: quality win. They've won eight of their last nine. I

723
00:33:51,040 --> 00:33:53,800
Speaker 2: guess the hottest teams in the league now are the Calves,

724
00:33:54,400 --> 00:33:57,200
Speaker 2: the Pacers, the King Still and then the Pistons.

725
00:33:57,240 --> 00:33:58,360
Speaker 3: The Pistons, It's crazy.

726
00:33:58,600 --> 00:33:59,840
Speaker 2: Do you have any takeaways from this one?

727
00:34:00,320 --> 00:34:02,920
Speaker 3: Not a lot of takeaways. This was a Pistons versus

728
00:34:03,080 --> 00:34:06,240
Speaker 3: Nets game. I'm gonna read to you a bunch of names,

729
00:34:06,280 --> 00:34:08,320
Speaker 3: and you tell me who didn't play for the Nets.

730
00:34:09,200 --> 00:34:11,719
Speaker 2: I know there was ten inactive players, yes it.

731
00:34:12,600 --> 00:34:16,160
Speaker 3: Cloxton is the most notable player. He played, you know

732
00:34:16,280 --> 00:34:18,160
Speaker 3: him here. I'm gonna list you a bunch of names.

733
00:34:18,200 --> 00:34:20,400
Speaker 3: Stop me when you hear a name that's not that

734
00:34:20,520 --> 00:34:25,760
Speaker 3: didn't play last night. Noah Clowney, ty Reese, Martin, Zaire Williams, Artist, Ivy,

735
00:34:26,239 --> 00:34:31,640
Speaker 3: Kean Johnson, Jalen Wilson, Toasin O Woma, Reese Beakman.

736
00:34:31,480 --> 00:34:31,880
Speaker 2: Whoa.

737
00:34:35,440 --> 00:34:37,160
Speaker 1: I'm staying quiet. I think he played.

738
00:34:37,239 --> 00:34:39,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean those guys were active at least, yeah,

739
00:34:39,840 --> 00:34:42,319
Speaker 2: because you haven't said anyone that hasn't was well.

740
00:34:42,520 --> 00:34:46,560
Speaker 3: Artist Ivy is Coolio's birth name. He did not play

741
00:34:46,719 --> 00:34:48,680
Speaker 3: last night, but he fits in with all those other

742
00:34:48,800 --> 00:34:53,839
Speaker 3: names easily the most anonymous team going, Cam Johnson. They're like, hey, man,

743
00:34:54,120 --> 00:34:56,239
Speaker 3: you just chill out. We'll get you traded here in

744
00:34:56,320 --> 00:34:59,160
Speaker 3: the next month. But this was a This was a game.

745
00:34:59,400 --> 00:35:02,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, No dam Johnson, no Cam Thomas, no D'Angelo Russell,

746
00:35:02,360 --> 00:35:06,560
Speaker 2: no Ben Simmons, no Maxwell Lewis, no Melton Bogdanovich, Sharp Watford,

747
00:35:06,800 --> 00:35:09,600
Speaker 2: de recoit Head all ten inactive, No white Head, Yeah,

748
00:35:09,640 --> 00:35:10,160
Speaker 2: no white Head.

749
00:35:10,680 --> 00:35:13,520
Speaker 1: A chance I rest in peace here. They're playing dead,

750
00:35:13,600 --> 00:35:14,760
Speaker 1: guys man.

751
00:35:15,640 --> 00:35:18,080
Speaker 3: They're drawing dead at the very least. Some nice finishes

752
00:35:18,120 --> 00:35:20,279
Speaker 3: from Kid Cunningham. I thought in this one didn't make

753
00:35:20,320 --> 00:35:22,440
Speaker 3: a three pointer, but six of seven from two points.

754
00:35:22,440 --> 00:35:24,799
Speaker 3: He's shooting a career best forty nine percent from two.

755
00:35:25,239 --> 00:35:27,200
Speaker 3: Still a little below what you'd like to see, but

756
00:35:27,600 --> 00:35:30,399
Speaker 3: he's a lot stronger in the lane, keeping the ball

757
00:35:30,520 --> 00:35:32,800
Speaker 3: and keeping his poise, and his floater game is a

758
00:35:32,880 --> 00:35:35,359
Speaker 3: lot better. I had to watch the NBA dot Com

759
00:35:35,480 --> 00:35:38,720
Speaker 3: recap on this one that Jared Greenberg is the one narrating,

760
00:35:38,920 --> 00:35:41,200
Speaker 3: and he starts it by saying, this isn't your dad's

761
00:35:41,280 --> 00:35:45,240
Speaker 3: Detroit Pistons, which made me think, because my dad's Detroit

762
00:35:45,280 --> 00:35:49,760
Speaker 3: Pistons they won back to bat Chambers, my kids' dad's

763
00:35:49,880 --> 00:35:53,480
Speaker 3: Detroit Pistons, which would be me. They won a championship

764
00:35:53,560 --> 00:35:56,800
Speaker 3: and went to six straight conference finals. Right, so this

765
00:35:57,040 --> 00:36:01,480
Speaker 3: is not a dad's Detroit Pistons. Hundred percent agree, but

766
00:36:01,840 --> 00:36:03,600
Speaker 3: not necessarily in the way he meant it.

767
00:36:03,680 --> 00:36:06,439
Speaker 2: It depends who he's talking. Yeah, it depends with dad.

768
00:36:06,480 --> 00:36:08,439
Speaker 3: We're talking one generation of dad.

769
00:36:08,800 --> 00:36:09,520
Speaker 2: It's been a while.

770
00:36:10,080 --> 00:36:14,120
Speaker 1: I also what Greenberg said was pistons are above five

771
00:36:14,239 --> 00:36:17,000
Speaker 1: hundred and January. I took Jerry Greenberg's line and repeated

772
00:36:17,040 --> 00:36:17,560
Speaker 1: it myself.

773
00:36:18,320 --> 00:36:19,600
Speaker 2: That's fact. That's just the fact.

774
00:36:20,160 --> 00:36:20,879
Speaker 1: It's also a fact.

775
00:36:22,239 --> 00:36:25,160
Speaker 2: Other takeaways from last night's games, that's a question for you, guys.

776
00:36:25,239 --> 00:36:27,239
Speaker 2: I'll quickly go through them if you want. Siakham scored

777
00:36:27,280 --> 00:36:30,120
Speaker 2: twenty six pacers beat your bulls handedly, So we did

778
00:36:30,160 --> 00:36:31,879
Speaker 2: have a weggie that was nice. Max He scored twenty

779
00:36:31,960 --> 00:36:33,720
Speaker 2: nine to leave the seventy six ers past the Wizards.

780
00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:36,600
Speaker 2: Towns had twenty seven and thirteen og had a great game.

781
00:36:36,840 --> 00:36:40,320
Speaker 2: Nicks beat the Raptors one twelve ninety eight. Denny Odia

782
00:36:40,719 --> 00:36:43,680
Speaker 2: scored twenty six. This guy's actually hooping as the Blazers

783
00:36:43,719 --> 00:36:46,000
Speaker 2: beat the zion List Pelicans won nineteen one hundred, and

784
00:36:46,000 --> 00:36:48,359
Speaker 2: then Jamal Murray and Westbrook did really well to help

785
00:36:48,360 --> 00:36:51,640
Speaker 2: the Nuggets crush the Clippers one twenty six, one oh three.

786
00:36:52,080 --> 00:36:53,520
Speaker 2: T K will start with you. Any of those games

787
00:36:53,600 --> 00:36:55,240
Speaker 2: worth breaking down.

788
00:36:55,120 --> 00:36:57,920
Speaker 3: For us breaking down though, But here's some fact. The

789
00:36:57,960 --> 00:37:01,239
Speaker 3: Pacers had the lowest jersey total possible on the court

790
00:37:01,360 --> 00:37:03,839
Speaker 3: last night. They had a double zero, A zero, a one,

791
00:37:04,080 --> 00:37:06,600
Speaker 3: a two, and a three. Huh, it'll never be broken.

792
00:37:06,640 --> 00:37:07,240
Speaker 2: It's incredible.

793
00:37:07,280 --> 00:37:08,319
Speaker 3: It's an unbreakable wreck.

794
00:37:08,360 --> 00:37:09,960
Speaker 2: Oh you don't think we'll ever get a triple zero

795
00:37:11,040 --> 00:37:14,279
Speaker 2: right games, I'll never say you're right.

796
00:37:14,320 --> 00:37:16,360
Speaker 3: They might change it up. But a good game for

797
00:37:16,440 --> 00:37:19,840
Speaker 3: Tyrese Haliburton. Sixteen points, thirteen assists and only one turnover.

798
00:37:19,960 --> 00:37:22,719
Speaker 3: Love to see the high assist low turnover games from him.

799
00:37:22,960 --> 00:37:25,960
Speaker 3: Pacers have one four straight ten out of their last thirteen.

800
00:37:26,280 --> 00:37:28,960
Speaker 3: In those thirteen games, they're fourth in offense. They're looking

801
00:37:28,960 --> 00:37:31,600
Speaker 3: a little bit more like the Pacers. Getting some guys

802
00:37:31,680 --> 00:37:34,319
Speaker 3: healthy with them hard being back on the quarters while

803
00:37:34,400 --> 00:37:36,320
Speaker 3: Thomas Bryant giving them big minutes.

804
00:37:36,360 --> 00:37:38,560
Speaker 2: Now they're twenty and eighteen. How bad that Pacers are

805
00:37:38,640 --> 00:37:41,960
Speaker 2: so after that slow start of turn things around, tassa.

806
00:37:42,080 --> 00:37:43,520
Speaker 2: Any thoughts on them or any of those games?

807
00:37:43,600 --> 00:37:48,080
Speaker 1: Well, big question as far as jerseys go, what is it?

808
00:37:48,280 --> 00:37:50,359
Speaker 1: Is it? Maybe and one where there's somebody who has

809
00:37:50,480 --> 00:37:51,799
Speaker 1: half on their back.

810
00:37:51,960 --> 00:37:53,920
Speaker 3: It's just half man half amazing.

811
00:37:54,000 --> 00:37:57,560
Speaker 2: There's a mascot, Oh there's something is it the Spurs mascot? No,

812
00:37:57,600 --> 00:37:59,000
Speaker 2: he's got an exclamation mark, didn't he?

813
00:37:59,160 --> 00:37:59,520
Speaker 1: Anyways?

814
00:38:00,160 --> 00:38:03,799
Speaker 3: I remember justin Timberlake and Britney Spears once wore number

815
00:38:03,880 --> 00:38:06,200
Speaker 3: one and a half and half for the MTV Rock

816
00:38:06,239 --> 00:38:08,359
Speaker 3: and Jock Celebrity game. So maybe that's what you're thinking.

817
00:38:08,400 --> 00:38:10,920
Speaker 1: Oh, absolutely, of course I think of the Rochets.

818
00:38:11,880 --> 00:38:13,640
Speaker 2: Oh little penny, I think kind of happens.

819
00:38:13,680 --> 00:38:16,279
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, see maybe somebody wears that. Yeah, you know,

820
00:38:16,800 --> 00:38:20,800
Speaker 1: half just throws it on. But yeah, the Pacers. Halburn

821
00:38:20,920 --> 00:38:22,640
Speaker 1: kind of had a quiet game. The guy has been

822
00:38:22,920 --> 00:38:25,720
Speaker 1: so hot. Three games in a row. He had scored

823
00:38:25,760 --> 00:38:28,160
Speaker 1: twenty plus twenty three is his last game, twenty seven.

824
00:38:28,160 --> 00:38:31,200
Speaker 1: The game before that thirty three and fifteen the game

825
00:38:31,280 --> 00:38:34,759
Speaker 1: before that, and yesterday just sixteen with thirteen assists only

826
00:38:34,880 --> 00:38:38,960
Speaker 1: one turnover. Besides that thirteen assists. Mark he's taking care

827
00:38:39,000 --> 00:38:41,719
Speaker 1: of the ball, giving it to Pascal Siakam. They are

828
00:38:41,800 --> 00:38:45,400
Speaker 1: twenty and eighteen. He has come back to life. He

829
00:38:45,600 --> 00:38:48,080
Speaker 1: almost looks like the Haliburn from last year. They're eleven

830
00:38:48,160 --> 00:38:50,200
Speaker 1: and two this season when he scores twenty or more,

831
00:38:50,760 --> 00:38:53,520
Speaker 1: so they're just They're just a damn good team period,

832
00:38:53,560 --> 00:38:56,279
Speaker 1: because he looks like he's back. Nemhart is very key.

833
00:38:56,320 --> 00:38:58,919
Speaker 1: I think him coming back got him into his flow.

834
00:38:59,000 --> 00:39:01,520
Speaker 1: I love watching Andrew are played defense like I plays

835
00:39:01,800 --> 00:39:03,680
Speaker 1: for again hard, So yeah, they look kind of like

836
00:39:03,719 --> 00:39:04,480
Speaker 1: they did last year.

837
00:39:05,400 --> 00:39:08,680
Speaker 2: Weird but true. Stat from the Nuggets victory over the Clippers.

838
00:39:09,239 --> 00:39:11,719
Speaker 2: Nuggets improved to eight and no on the second leg

839
00:39:11,800 --> 00:39:14,360
Speaker 2: of back to backs, so you know, they don't have

840
00:39:14,480 --> 00:39:17,319
Speaker 2: like a lights out record overall here so struggled at times.

841
00:39:17,520 --> 00:39:19,080
Speaker 2: They don't have a good record in the first game

842
00:39:19,160 --> 00:39:21,200
Speaker 2: of back to backs. I think they're two and six

843
00:39:21,320 --> 00:39:24,399
Speaker 2: in those games, but eight no great at responding weird, yeah,

844
00:39:24,640 --> 00:39:27,040
Speaker 2: for sure, and no Jokic in that one.

845
00:39:27,239 --> 00:39:30,520
Speaker 4: An avenge game though for DeAndre Jordan playing against the Clippers,

846
00:39:30,560 --> 00:39:33,120
Speaker 4: got his first start of the season, season high in

847
00:39:33,200 --> 00:39:36,360
Speaker 4: DINNT game twelve points, a season high, nine rebounds, season

848
00:39:36,440 --> 00:39:38,920
Speaker 4: high Yoki Chu, Yoki Cho.

849
00:39:39,080 --> 00:39:41,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, and well, I mean the Clippers may have their

850
00:39:41,719 --> 00:39:44,200
Speaker 2: minds on other things right now. It's fair enough, and

851
00:39:44,280 --> 00:39:46,399
Speaker 2: we can spin into that because according to Chris Haynes,

852
00:39:46,520 --> 00:39:49,360
Speaker 2: Clippers star Kawhi Leonard, you know, stepped away is stepping

853
00:39:49,400 --> 00:39:52,200
Speaker 2: away from the team to be with his family and

854
00:39:52,320 --> 00:39:55,359
Speaker 2: help them with the massive fires and the impact dude

855
00:39:55,360 --> 00:39:57,840
Speaker 2: to the massive fires that have erupted in southern California

856
00:39:57,920 --> 00:40:00,719
Speaker 2: in recent days. So they play last night in Denver,

857
00:40:00,760 --> 00:40:02,560
Speaker 2: obviously a couple of Clippers did, and then they do

858
00:40:02,719 --> 00:40:06,280
Speaker 2: return home here for a game against the Hornets on Saturday.

859
00:40:07,040 --> 00:40:09,600
Speaker 2: And I think the Lakers have a game against the

860
00:40:09,680 --> 00:40:12,680
Speaker 2: same Hornets tonight, and I'm sure they're considering their options.

861
00:40:13,800 --> 00:40:16,000
Speaker 2: But you know, we already saw the Los Angeles King's

862
00:40:16,040 --> 00:40:18,960
Speaker 2: postpone a game. I think there's gonna be more postponed

863
00:40:18,960 --> 00:40:21,960
Speaker 2: games coming here. But obviously tough for a lot of

864
00:40:22,280 --> 00:40:24,800
Speaker 2: people that in the NBA world task, let alone the

865
00:40:24,880 --> 00:40:27,200
Speaker 2: Lakers and Clippers. A lot of these guys have homes

866
00:40:27,200 --> 00:40:28,960
Speaker 2: there and family that lived there, and this is having

867
00:40:28,960 --> 00:40:29,800
Speaker 2: an impact on everyone.

868
00:40:30,080 --> 00:40:34,040
Speaker 1: Absolutely. Yeah, I hope the Lakers game is postponed tonight

869
00:40:34,080 --> 00:40:37,920
Speaker 1: because people have real life to deal with. JJ Redick

870
00:40:37,960 --> 00:40:41,080
Speaker 1: said his family has evacuated and his wife's family has evacuated.

871
00:40:41,120 --> 00:40:45,120
Speaker 1: Steve Kerr mentioned his mom has already evacuated. It's yeah,

872
00:40:45,560 --> 00:40:49,880
Speaker 1: occurring everywhere. So understandable that the Clippers didn't perform the

873
00:40:49,960 --> 00:40:52,279
Speaker 1: way they want to perform. But Tyl Lou said it

874
00:40:52,360 --> 00:40:54,200
Speaker 1: before a game. He said, I don't know if we

875
00:40:54,239 --> 00:40:56,879
Speaker 1: can play basketball, how good we're gonna play out there? Yeah,

876
00:40:57,080 --> 00:40:58,719
Speaker 1: And so that was a part of them, I'm sure

877
00:40:58,800 --> 00:41:02,400
Speaker 1: getting way off the floor the way the Nuggets did.

878
00:41:02,520 --> 00:41:04,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, as of now, as of going live here on

879
00:41:04,440 --> 00:41:07,640
Speaker 2: Thursday morning, like this destructive firestorm is I think killed

880
00:41:07,719 --> 00:41:11,640
Speaker 2: five people, burned down like two thousand structures, displaced at

881
00:41:11,719 --> 00:41:13,800
Speaker 2: least one hundred and thirty thousand people. It's like a

882
00:41:13,880 --> 00:41:16,239
Speaker 2: rough estimate on that, but man, I mean and look

883
00:41:16,520 --> 00:41:19,880
Speaker 2: impact on NBA players, personnel and all that. Colleagues at

884
00:41:19,920 --> 00:41:23,400
Speaker 2: the athletic, our good friend Mattio, who is safe and

885
00:41:23,480 --> 00:41:27,080
Speaker 2: I think got his power back, but obviously on pins

886
00:41:27,120 --> 00:41:28,719
Speaker 2: and needles because you never know when you're gonna have

887
00:41:28,719 --> 00:41:30,560
Speaker 2: to evacuate because this wind is not seeming to die

888
00:41:30,600 --> 00:41:31,040
Speaker 2: down out there.

889
00:41:31,400 --> 00:41:34,640
Speaker 3: Very scary and sad stuff. Basketball is surely the last

890
00:41:34,680 --> 00:41:36,839
Speaker 3: thing on a lot of the people out in LA's minds,

891
00:41:36,880 --> 00:41:39,439
Speaker 3: whether they're on teams or just fans of the team.

892
00:41:39,640 --> 00:41:42,479
Speaker 3: So thoughts impressed to everybody affected by the fires.

893
00:41:42,600 --> 00:41:46,279
Speaker 2: Us absolutely in some good news here, Magic star Pallo

894
00:41:46,360 --> 00:41:49,560
Speaker 2: Bankero is expected to return to action in one of

895
00:41:49,719 --> 00:41:53,680
Speaker 2: Orlando's back to back games at home, either tonight against

896
00:41:53,680 --> 00:41:56,520
Speaker 2: Minnesota or Friday against Milwaukee. You know, he's been out

897
00:41:56,560 --> 00:42:00,520
Speaker 2: since October thirtieth due to that torn oblique. After that

898
00:42:00,719 --> 00:42:03,279
Speaker 2: monster start of the season, which included a fifty point game,

899
00:42:03,680 --> 00:42:05,560
Speaker 2: he was averaging like twenty nine points per game through

900
00:42:05,600 --> 00:42:08,400
Speaker 2: the five games he'd played. He looked incredible. But he

901
00:42:08,560 --> 00:42:12,239
Speaker 2: did participate fully in Wednesday's practice task, So hopefully we

902
00:42:12,320 --> 00:42:15,440
Speaker 2: see him either tonight or Friday. It seems likely that

903
00:42:15,480 --> 00:42:16,719
Speaker 2: it'll play at least one of these games.

904
00:42:17,000 --> 00:42:20,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, I am number one. I'm a Minnesota Timberwolves fan.

905
00:42:20,560 --> 00:42:22,279
Speaker 1: I just want to see how their season flows. So

906
00:42:22,320 --> 00:42:25,520
Speaker 1: I was looking forward to this matchup period because I

907
00:42:25,680 --> 00:42:28,319
Speaker 1: am also an Orlando Magic fan. Just how hard they've

908
00:42:28,400 --> 00:42:31,480
Speaker 1: played since Palo Bancaro was up. So yes, I was

909
00:42:31,520 --> 00:42:34,719
Speaker 1: excited for this in the first place, but I hope

910
00:42:34,760 --> 00:42:35,520
Speaker 1: he comes back tonight.

911
00:42:35,600 --> 00:42:37,440
Speaker 2: Yeah. They're twenty two and sixteen in the Magic Car

912
00:42:37,520 --> 00:42:40,680
Speaker 2: fourth place in the Eastern Conference standings, despite losing their

913
00:42:40,719 --> 00:42:43,239
Speaker 2: two star players in Palo who went out early and

914
00:42:43,280 --> 00:42:46,640
Speaker 2: then Franz Wagner same weird torn oblique injury. But the

915
00:42:46,719 --> 00:42:48,719
Speaker 2: manager is that they've the fact that they managed to

916
00:42:48,760 --> 00:42:51,759
Speaker 2: tread water here Trey is pretty damn impressive. Without these

917
00:42:51,800 --> 00:42:52,480
Speaker 2: two guys.

918
00:42:52,400 --> 00:42:55,040
Speaker 3: I don't even think they treaded water. They swam to

919
00:42:55,160 --> 00:42:55,399
Speaker 3: the top.

920
00:42:55,520 --> 00:42:56,160
Speaker 2: They just swam.

921
00:42:56,360 --> 00:42:59,319
Speaker 3: Yeah, they just were swimming nineteen and thirteen without Pallo

922
00:42:59,440 --> 00:43:03,120
Speaker 3: bon Carrotctober thirtieth, you said was an injury. We've had

923
00:43:03,160 --> 00:43:06,600
Speaker 3: four holidays since then. Jeez, if you consider New Year

924
00:43:06,640 --> 00:43:09,840
Speaker 3: as a holiday, I do generally get it off good stuff.

925
00:43:10,480 --> 00:43:12,439
Speaker 3: But yeah, I mean the fact that they were able

926
00:43:12,480 --> 00:43:14,960
Speaker 3: to play above five hundred, Like I think if they

927
00:43:15,000 --> 00:43:16,880
Speaker 3: went thirteen and nineteen.

928
00:43:18,000 --> 00:43:18,920
Speaker 2: Makes a great job.

929
00:43:19,000 --> 00:43:21,719
Speaker 3: You stayed in the mix. Instead, they're still fighting for

930
00:43:22,040 --> 00:43:26,640
Speaker 3: a home playoff berth and getting Polo back might take

931
00:43:26,640 --> 00:43:27,799
Speaker 3: a little bit of time, but you know, they're going

932
00:43:27,840 --> 00:43:30,040
Speaker 3: to play defensively and he's only going to make their

933
00:43:30,080 --> 00:43:33,400
Speaker 3: offense better. So hopefully he's able to stay healthy for

934
00:43:33,440 --> 00:43:35,040
Speaker 3: the rest of the season. And the fact that he

935
00:43:35,200 --> 00:43:37,120
Speaker 3: was able to return and we'll be able to get

936
00:43:37,160 --> 00:43:39,200
Speaker 3: a nice chunk of time before the playoffs, assuming he

937
00:43:39,239 --> 00:43:41,880
Speaker 3: stays healthy, maybe that means Franz Wagner will make his

938
00:43:41,960 --> 00:43:45,360
Speaker 3: way back eventually as well, since he got injured in

939
00:43:45,400 --> 00:43:46,440
Speaker 3: the first half of the season.

940
00:43:46,600 --> 00:43:48,879
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, Well, let's get to another game tonight,

941
00:43:48,920 --> 00:43:51,680
Speaker 2: which is our pick them game task. Where are we

942
00:43:51,880 --> 00:43:53,879
Speaker 2: going for Thursday Night's pick them?

943
00:43:54,760 --> 00:43:58,520
Speaker 1: Well, we're going to it back to back for one team.

944
00:43:58,840 --> 00:44:02,200
Speaker 1: Of surprising that this is a three and a half

945
00:44:02,280 --> 00:44:04,440
Speaker 1: point line for the Detroit Pistons, who played last night.

946
00:44:04,480 --> 00:44:06,560
Speaker 1: They're favored by three and a half points against the

947
00:44:06,640 --> 00:44:10,440
Speaker 1: Golden State Warriors tonight. Seems like a juicy line, but

948
00:44:10,520 --> 00:44:12,680
Speaker 1: when you look at the records, well, the Golden State

949
00:44:12,719 --> 00:44:15,279
Speaker 1: Warriors are a five hundred team. The Detroit Pistons are

950
00:44:15,400 --> 00:44:17,759
Speaker 1: now above five hundred teams, So I guess it's not

951
00:44:18,239 --> 00:44:21,719
Speaker 1: all that drastic. Detroit's got to travel from Brooklyn to

952
00:44:21,840 --> 00:44:23,880
Speaker 1: go back home. I guess the Warriors have been chilling

953
00:44:23,960 --> 00:44:27,640
Speaker 1: waiting for them, and I feel like Golden State will

954
00:44:27,640 --> 00:44:31,160
Speaker 1: play them a close game. They lost two in a

955
00:44:31,280 --> 00:44:34,680
Speaker 1: row now the last month, they've had two three game

956
00:44:34,880 --> 00:44:39,240
Speaker 1: losing streaks, this one just two. I feel like Detroit,

957
00:44:39,520 --> 00:44:42,399
Speaker 1: you know, with Traymond Green kind of close to home,

958
00:44:42,440 --> 00:44:45,640
Speaker 1: they'll play a decent game against the Pistons. But who

959
00:44:45,719 --> 00:44:48,239
Speaker 1: the heck knows. That's why a couple of you have

960
00:44:48,440 --> 00:44:52,799
Speaker 1: taken the Pistons, Skeets and Trey, while myself and Esher

961
00:44:52,880 --> 00:44:55,360
Speaker 1: taking the Warriors, because the Pistons have won five obviously,

962
00:44:55,440 --> 00:44:58,960
Speaker 1: as we just mentioned in a row, Unfrickin' bell lieve them.

963
00:44:59,000 --> 00:45:00,719
Speaker 2: It is a back to back for the Pistons. But

964
00:45:00,760 --> 00:45:02,919
Speaker 2: I will say because of the blowout nature of last

965
00:45:02,960 --> 00:45:05,360
Speaker 2: night's game against the Nets, not on a minute for

966
00:45:05,600 --> 00:45:09,920
Speaker 2: like their star players, like they were playing some you know,

967
00:45:10,360 --> 00:45:12,279
Speaker 2: some crazy names, not even fake names trade, but they

968
00:45:12,280 --> 00:45:14,920
Speaker 2: were playing some crazy names because it was such a blowout.

969
00:45:15,000 --> 00:45:17,239
Speaker 2: So they did rest them a little bit. But you're right,

970
00:45:17,280 --> 00:45:18,880
Speaker 2: they had to travel and all that. It's weird to

971
00:45:18,880 --> 00:45:20,839
Speaker 2: see Detroit minus three and a half, Yes, at home

972
00:45:21,000 --> 00:45:23,759
Speaker 2: with the Warriors coming to town. But I'm with you. TK.

973
00:45:24,320 --> 00:45:26,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, I just feel like the Warriors are in a

974
00:45:26,600 --> 00:45:28,879
Speaker 3: bad spot right now. They scored ninety nine in each

975
00:45:28,960 --> 00:45:33,000
Speaker 3: of their last two games, both disappointing losses. So I'm

976
00:45:33,000 --> 00:45:35,080
Speaker 3: gonna need to see a bounce back from Golden State

977
00:45:35,160 --> 00:45:36,920
Speaker 3: before I'm feeling any sort of confidence in them.

978
00:45:36,960 --> 00:45:40,399
Speaker 2: All right, So we're split on that one. Tonight, gonna

979
00:45:40,400 --> 00:45:44,000
Speaker 2: remind everyone that we are on the call for the

980
00:45:44,160 --> 00:45:48,120
Speaker 2: Skyhawks versus the Motor City Cruise game this Sunday at

981
00:45:48,200 --> 00:45:52,560
Speaker 2: two pm Eastern. Yeah, Blally gonna be there. Hop to

982
00:45:52,600 --> 00:45:54,360
Speaker 2: get a photo with them, you have to start standing

983
00:45:54,440 --> 00:45:57,560
Speaker 2: in line hour before the game. That's okay. Blue will

984
00:45:57,600 --> 00:46:00,359
Speaker 2: be there for Kids' Day. But we are pretty pretty

985
00:46:00,360 --> 00:46:01,759
Speaker 2: excited to be on the call again for this. We

986
00:46:01,840 --> 00:46:03,520
Speaker 2: had a lot of fun doing this last year. So

987
00:46:03,760 --> 00:46:08,439
Speaker 2: that G League game at two pm Eastern Cruise Skyhawks,

988
00:46:08,640 --> 00:46:14,320
Speaker 2: it was your favorite guy to see, honestly, Wallace, Keaton, Wallace,

989
00:46:14,320 --> 00:46:16,160
Speaker 2: Eaton Wallace and Plowd.

990
00:46:16,239 --> 00:46:18,880
Speaker 3: It's been balling for the Skyhawks, Cloud and been bowling.

991
00:46:19,080 --> 00:46:21,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you do Tony Bradley for him.

992
00:46:21,600 --> 00:46:23,640
Speaker 3: I can't wait to see Tony Bradley. I love it though,

993
00:46:23,680 --> 00:46:25,799
Speaker 3: because we get the info on the Skyhawks. We get

994
00:46:25,840 --> 00:46:27,680
Speaker 3: to watch them during these couple of games, and then

995
00:46:27,719 --> 00:46:31,000
Speaker 3: when they start performing well for the Atlanta Hawks, you

996
00:46:31,080 --> 00:46:32,239
Speaker 3: feel very proud for him.

997
00:46:32,320 --> 00:46:32,520
Speaker 1: Yeah.

998
00:46:32,560 --> 00:46:35,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's true. I will say something about you. I'm

999
00:46:35,200 --> 00:46:38,239
Speaker 2: a little concerned, like I'm a little worried that we're

1000
00:46:38,280 --> 00:46:40,960
Speaker 2: coming into Sunday's game and calling this because the Skyhawks

1001
00:46:40,960 --> 00:46:44,239
Speaker 2: are actually like rolling right now. They're kicking ass. Yeah,

1002
00:46:44,520 --> 00:46:46,440
Speaker 2: so I just like, I don't want to be like

1003
00:46:46,520 --> 00:46:49,399
Speaker 2: the obvious scapegoat if they fall or have a bad game,

1004
00:46:49,440 --> 00:46:51,200
Speaker 2: and I'd be like, oh, it's these no dumb Skis,

1005
00:46:51,239 --> 00:46:53,600
Speaker 2: get them out of here. So that's where my mind goes.

1006
00:46:53,640 --> 00:46:54,440
Speaker 2: But I'm a pessimist.

1007
00:46:54,640 --> 00:46:58,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, they rolled last Sunday. I was there watching they

1008
00:46:58,400 --> 00:47:01,440
Speaker 1: handled the herd and no problem was sconsin heard kick

1009
00:47:01,520 --> 00:47:05,280
Speaker 1: them out of there. You never know, though, you mentioned

1010
00:47:05,320 --> 00:47:07,920
Speaker 1: who you want to see Atlanta Hawks can show up.

1011
00:47:08,000 --> 00:47:10,520
Speaker 1: Last year, were there, Tree showed up. I got to

1012
00:47:10,600 --> 00:47:13,040
Speaker 1: hang out with him, watch his kid eat some popcorn.

1013
00:47:13,120 --> 00:47:15,080
Speaker 1: We just sat there and watched the game together. That

1014
00:47:15,239 --> 00:47:15,520
Speaker 1: was fun.

1015
00:47:15,640 --> 00:47:17,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a great time, especially if you're in the

1016
00:47:17,200 --> 00:47:19,439
Speaker 2: Atlanta area, or if you're in any area where there's

1017
00:47:19,440 --> 00:47:22,000
Speaker 2: obviously a G League team. Encourage you to go check

1018
00:47:22,040 --> 00:47:24,279
Speaker 2: it out. It's it is fun, high level basketball, and

1019
00:47:24,360 --> 00:47:26,640
Speaker 2: it's like so cool. You get to usually sit fairly close,

1020
00:47:26,680 --> 00:47:29,359
Speaker 2: affordable tickets, stuff like that. So we're excited. We'll keep

1021
00:47:29,400 --> 00:47:31,719
Speaker 2: you posting on that. But that's it for today's show.

1022
00:47:31,800 --> 00:47:36,120
Speaker 2: Let's get tasks inside and look. The plan is to

1023
00:47:36,200 --> 00:47:39,719
Speaker 2: finish this. Pick them tomorrow. Friday's drop task outside. It's

1024
00:47:39,719 --> 00:47:42,080
Speaker 2: supposed to snow bucks.

1025
00:47:42,480 --> 00:47:44,640
Speaker 1: Come on, I've got it easy out here. I will

1026
00:47:44,719 --> 00:47:46,120
Speaker 1: love the snow tomorrow. Yeah.

1027
00:47:46,160 --> 00:47:47,680
Speaker 2: No, I'm saying, I just want you to be able

1028
00:47:47,680 --> 00:47:50,360
Speaker 2: to drive safe. For everybody will to drive safe to

1029
00:47:50,480 --> 00:47:51,680
Speaker 2: their locations, that's all.

1030
00:47:52,040 --> 00:47:54,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, what you're saying down here in the South,

1031
00:47:54,320 --> 00:47:55,480
Speaker 1: people don't know how to drive from this.

1032
00:47:55,640 --> 00:47:57,240
Speaker 2: Well that's we've seen it firsthand.

1033
00:47:57,320 --> 00:48:00,399
Speaker 1: Yeah. Well we first moved here twenty fourteen. Things change

1034
00:48:00,440 --> 00:48:03,000
Speaker 1: though they're Ready's ready? I heard the city. The city

1035
00:48:03,040 --> 00:48:06,560
Speaker 1: has change test No city has been lining the roads

1036
00:48:06,719 --> 00:48:10,479
Speaker 1: with salt overnight the night the night before. It hasn't

1037
00:48:10,480 --> 00:48:12,279
Speaker 1: started snow. It's not going to snow till Friday. But

1038
00:48:12,400 --> 00:48:16,000
Speaker 1: they have been lining the streets with salt on over

1039
00:48:16,120 --> 00:48:18,279
Speaker 1: Wednesday overnight to Thursday so we're good.

1040
00:48:18,920 --> 00:48:20,840
Speaker 2: I'm still calling for a couple of inches here and

1041
00:48:20,920 --> 00:48:23,320
Speaker 2: it's and if we can all get in here and

1042
00:48:23,400 --> 00:48:26,040
Speaker 2: again to our spots, we should have snow while we're

1043
00:48:26,040 --> 00:48:28,440
Speaker 2: doing the show at Teddy em Eastern. It would look beautiful.

1044
00:48:28,480 --> 00:48:30,200
Speaker 2: I hope we see it. I just don't want to

1045
00:48:30,239 --> 00:48:33,400
Speaker 2: put anyone in danger for the sake of comedy. Okay,

1046
00:48:33,719 --> 00:48:37,520
Speaker 2: it's not that funny, but thank you so much for

1047
00:48:37,600 --> 00:48:39,640
Speaker 2: doing today. Hopefully we'll see you here tomorrow. Until that

1048
00:48:39,719 --> 00:48:40,640
Speaker 2: Clipper rose.

1049
00:48:40,760 --> 00:48:43,319
Speaker 3: You heard it here first, have a great time, turn up.

1050
00:48:43,520 --> 00:48:44,720
Speaker 3: Love you guys awesome.

1051
00:48:45,000 --> 00:48:47,360
Speaker 1: Thanks for joining us, and remember tomorrow I might be

1052
00:48:47,440 --> 00:48:50,960
Speaker 1: in snow. Maybe yes, maybe no, But the hope is

1053
00:48:51,040 --> 00:48:54,320
Speaker 1: to make it funny. Skeets was as just mentioned it

1054
00:48:54,480 --> 00:48:57,480
Speaker 1: it's not that funny, but for everybody out there listening,

1055
00:48:58,680 --> 00:49:01,720
Speaker 1: send in some suggestions. How can we make it funny.

1056
00:49:03,200 --> 00:49:03,960
Speaker 1: It's going to be tough.

1057
00:49:04,080 --> 00:49:07,080
Speaker 2: We do need some more pick and payoff suggestions because

1058
00:49:07,120 --> 00:49:10,040
Speaker 2: we haven't decided on the loser for January. So if

1059
00:49:10,080 --> 00:49:12,400
Speaker 2: you've got something good, let us know in the YouTube comments.

1060
00:49:12,400 --> 00:49:14,760
Speaker 2: Tweet on us at No Dunk saying we'll see you tomorrow,

1061
00:49:14,800 --> 00:49:16,640
Speaker 2: hopefully with some snow. Brace to day people,