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Speaker 1: Welcome to money Making Conversation. That's right, I'm your host,

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Speaker 1: Rashan McDonald. Each Money Making Conversations talk shows about entrepreneurship

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Speaker 1: My next guest is here, boy, this is what I'll

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Speaker 1: board my next guest. Production company Who's laughing now has

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Speaker 1: been producing hit drama das for the past twenty five years.

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Speaker 1: To date, he and his family have launched more than

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Speaker 1: twenty productions delivering to soldot theaters across the country, in

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Speaker 1: j D lrds. Right, All right, well seven, yeah, Well,

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Speaker 1: And the evolution of all these different characters came along.

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Speaker 1: my mortgage that I did it. We know, something's really

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Speaker 1: interesting because that gets to your your were wealth winds

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Speaker 1: that believe that's right, Uh that you do. We are

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Speaker 1: winds as we do with uh Stacy Tisdale because people

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Speaker 1: need to understand that because I did the same thing

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Speaker 1: with Mike. You know, I have two homes. I paid

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Speaker 1: all both from once in Houston, was in Atlanta. In

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Speaker 1: the first home, I had a thirty year mortgage and

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Speaker 1: then uh, and so when you go to fifteen, it's

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Speaker 1: really not that big of a difference, right, Yeah, you're right.

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Speaker 1: Especially it's really the percentage to you know, what your

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Speaker 1: interest is so once that instant dropped a point, and

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Speaker 1: you'll be surprised how much I can shave off. And

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Speaker 1: you're paying less interest from the beginning of your loan.

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Speaker 1: So it just really makes sense. But for myself, I

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Speaker 1: think people would tell you it's not a good idea

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Speaker 1: to pay up your mortgage. People will tell you all

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Speaker 1: kinds of things, what they do, what they tell you

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Speaker 1: that people justly out there. They will tell you don't

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Speaker 1: pay off people. I remember God said, I'm sorry for

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Speaker 1: cutting because I gotta be mad. Somebody told me, don't

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Speaker 1: don't pay that all. What what are you talking about?

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Speaker 1: Do when you're making a certain amount of income, I'm

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Speaker 1: taking property tax, don't even apply anymore properly next only

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Speaker 1: go up to a certain If you've gotta find me

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Speaker 1: in the hall, believe me, properly tax don cuple five

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Speaker 1: million dollars. You're stopping in the one million dollar range.

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Speaker 1: So everything else the government is gonna take anyway. So

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Speaker 1: so that's why that's why I really value you, know,

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Speaker 1: your finding your financial literacy campaign. Talk to us a

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Speaker 1: little bit about that, because you know so much to

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Speaker 1: talk about this. I'm gonna just tell you, like Angela

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Speaker 1: that's gonna be our first conversation and I'm just gonna

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Speaker 1: expose my my listeners to you. But you got so

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Speaker 1: much going on, so let's talk about the financial literacy.

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Speaker 1: You know, you know you, you know you you. You've

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Speaker 1: been recognized by with a Day in New York City.

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Speaker 1: You know you're the popular club. You gotta you know,

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Speaker 1: you get a hundred thousands of one point five million

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Speaker 1: views on your lip service show every time and airs.

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Speaker 1: You know you got you. What's the goal? What's the

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Speaker 1: go I think as to her this ideas to literacy part,

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Speaker 1: I do this thing called Wealth Wednesday's once a month

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Speaker 1: for stacy and that's actually at my juice bar, because

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Speaker 1: I have a juice bar in Brooklyn called Juices for Life,

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Speaker 1: and we do that there because when I first opened

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Speaker 1: that juice bar, it will be where four years in

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Speaker 1: September since we opened this juice bar with Stop Pea

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Speaker 1: from the Locks and when we first got the juice bar,

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Speaker 1: I got this space in Brooklyn for us. That's amazing,

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Speaker 1: Like it's a beautiful space, it's nice and open, it

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Speaker 1: has a backyard. And my goal was always I wanted

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Speaker 1: this to be a place where the community can come

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Speaker 1: in Best Side and yes it's the best guide and

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Speaker 1: have events. It's on Malcolm X Boulevard. And for me,

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Speaker 1: I wanted to be something that's also caters to our community,

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Speaker 1: the core people that are from the Best Side, that

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Speaker 1: are from that neighborhood, so they feel like this is

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Speaker 1: for us, because there's so much sense of fake gentrification

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Speaker 1: going on, so many businesses coming in that aren't trying

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Speaker 1: to link us still not welcome to be in those businesses.

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Speaker 1: So I wanted it to be a place where it's

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Speaker 1: not get your stuff and go, it's more comments, it down,

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Speaker 1: have a meeting if you need to say all day,

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Speaker 1: we got the TV. It's a little lounge area and France.

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Speaker 1: What do you want to do? You want to have

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Speaker 1: a baby shower here? You need to have an We

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Speaker 1: said all kinds of things up for people. So I

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Speaker 1: started was Wednesday because I wanted to have something that

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Speaker 1: with free for the community that was also empowering them

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Speaker 1: to know that they can be successful and can make

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Speaker 1: money and can be homeowners and can have great credit.

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Speaker 1: Now here's the thing about it, how times changed, Because

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Speaker 1: you know, are a little background on me and July

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Speaker 1: moved to New York and a eight to be a

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Speaker 1: stand up comic. I wanted to be the next next,

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Speaker 1: you know. And Eddie Murphy was hot out there. Richard

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Speaker 1: Prova course was always hot. And I remember I took

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Speaker 1: the subway and I got off Bitto. Okay, I thought

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Speaker 1: I was in another country. You know what I'm talking about?

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Speaker 1: She went, no juice back right now. And it just

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Speaker 1: shows you how that whole community has moved itself forward.

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Speaker 1: And how did you know know that's why you have

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Speaker 1: a basketball team there now, you know? And I always say,

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Speaker 1: the interesting thing about New York is that is that

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Speaker 1: everybody you know, Manhattan gets all the hype. Okay, but

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Speaker 1: Brooklyn's his own city. You don't even have to leave

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Speaker 1: bro A great person stands alone. They asked you what

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Speaker 1: you from. You don't say that you and I am

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Speaker 1: a fan of yours and also know that I just

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Speaker 1: want to let you know that keep doing what you're doing.

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Speaker 1: This whole multiple the multi stream, multiple streams. We income

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Speaker 1: being able to understand that the community comes first. That's

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Speaker 1: your brand. And also the fact that you are female.

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Speaker 1: That represents being you and being strong and being having

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Speaker 1: a voce that that delivers a message that's equal for everybody.

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Speaker 1: That's important and I want you to maintain. We'll be

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Speaker 1: back with more money Making Conversation with the star of

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Speaker 1: the Breakfast Club, Angela p. Money Making Conversations continues online

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Speaker 1: at www dot money Making Conversations dot com and follow

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Speaker 1: money Making Conversations on Facebook, Twitter, and Instagram. Our next

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Speaker 1: guest is the first time on the show, which I'm

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Speaker 1: always excited because I get to learn new things. I

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Speaker 1: get to expand my conversation base. Keep talking to the

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Speaker 1: same people. You don't get educated as much. I will

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Speaker 1: be educated after this show. But she about food, and

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Speaker 1: everybody who listens to this show knows Rashwan McDonald is

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Speaker 1: an all time great foodie. My next guest restaurant is

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Speaker 1: the premier comfort food comfort food destination in New York City,

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Speaker 1: as you will see from her Instagram page at Melbourne Harlem.

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Speaker 1: Celebrities like nas Nick Cannon, her cousins sienns April, Ryan

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Speaker 1: dil Hugely and many more all in your her American

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Speaker 1: comfort food. I want to know what that is, you know,

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Speaker 1: American comfortable. She has always seen on the Food Network,

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Speaker 1: whether she is a judge on Beat, Bobby Flay cooking,

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Speaker 1: with the amazing host on the kitchen or trying to

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Speaker 1: pick the winner and the finale are the Worst Cooks

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Speaker 1: in America? That's one of my favorite shows. Those people

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Speaker 1: really can't cool. Please working the money making conversation my

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Speaker 1: girl Melbolle, Wilson, Rest Shawan, how are you like? You know?

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Speaker 1: I had to put all those credits in there because

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Speaker 1: some of them were just so worth talking about. Now

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Speaker 1: now because Bobby Flay as my boy. Then you got

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Speaker 1: the kitchen what you gotta come on there with a

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Speaker 1: little nice little quick recipes. You gotta put out real

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Speaker 1: fast so so people can capture at home, and it's

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Speaker 1: kind of like competing. Everybody taste and sample your stuff

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Speaker 1: on the spot, so you know, you know, you gotta

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Speaker 1: have your act together. And then but my favorite show,

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Speaker 1: Worst Cooks in America A well, they truly are the

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Speaker 1: worst cooks when they start out. However, you know, they

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Speaker 1: get in there with ambarrel and they throw down. They

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Speaker 1: really learned how to cook. And uh, I've been really

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Speaker 1: inspired and surprisingly happy with some of the results that

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Speaker 1: have come out of that show. Well, I'm gonna tell

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Speaker 1: you something. The ones that they cut early, they just

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Speaker 1: and cool. They they they they somewhere destroying people's lives

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Speaker 1: right now. You know what, I've been blessed because I've

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Speaker 1: only done the finale on Worst Cooks and Worst Bakers,

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Speaker 1: so I consider myself. But you obviously some of those

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Speaker 1: early rounds, I don't know if your girl can do

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Speaker 1: that because you they're so bad. You almost talk, You

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Speaker 1: almost think they just you know, oh, they just want

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Speaker 1: to be on TV, especially on the celebrity side. You know,

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Speaker 1: you think, you know, it's like Dancing with the Stars,

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Speaker 1: you know, that's the celebrities. You have to regular everyday people.

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Speaker 1: But you know, if you're a cook person, you really

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Speaker 1: know they don't that that's not what they do. You know,

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Speaker 1: when you really do know, and you know, cooking is

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Speaker 1: a labor of love and it's something that not everyone

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Speaker 1: can do, but it's something that everyone can enjoy, especially

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Speaker 1: when you get that skinnish product at the end on

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Speaker 1: your plate. So and ultimately that's why I'm in business,

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Speaker 1: because not everyone can and not everyone wants to. So well,

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Speaker 1: let's talk about that. Okay, we we we intro starts

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Speaker 1: you at you know, restaurant opening, and we're gonna talk

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Speaker 1: about your new restaurant that's opening, and I want to

582
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Speaker 1: put that banner on my social media and fan club

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Speaker 1: let them know because I go to New York a lot,

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Speaker 1: and so you're definitely going to see my mud because

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Speaker 1: I am truly a foodie. Now you're intro talked about

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Speaker 1: comfort food, American comfort food. What exactly is that? Well?

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Speaker 1: To me, American comfort food is food that evokes warm

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Speaker 1: and wonderful memories. It's food that transports you back to

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Speaker 1: great times and year. Everybody in the studio, everybody's studio,

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Speaker 1: they perked up their ears. Now come on, now, come on,

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Speaker 1: don't be messing with us like that. Now, John can

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Speaker 1: be that cheesy, gooey, delicious macaroni and cheese that your

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Speaker 1: Matha used to throw that out with kid, Or it

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Speaker 1: can be that tato salad that Uncle John used to make.

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Speaker 1: You know, it's just that transforms you. And I think

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Speaker 1: these days and John, we all need to be comforted

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Speaker 1: and take him back to those times. Y'all do potato

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Speaker 1: salad that you're restaurant. Now, I don't do potato salad.

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Speaker 1: I do tato salad. It's a big difference. Now you

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Speaker 1: don't put no pole in front of them because I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna tell you something that is a whole you would

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Speaker 1: make me mad. Put some bad potatoes out there. You

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Speaker 1: got to know their menu, because that's the first thing,

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Speaker 1: because I'm always searching for food. I'm searching for good

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Speaker 1: potatoes at Tato Sat. But see, I'm touching it that

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Speaker 1: because she said Tata Sat because it's right my CAMPI

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Speaker 1: from South Carolina. Though. That explains it all right, So

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Speaker 1: so this is good comfort food now now, So so

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Speaker 1: what do you where exactly is the restaurant located, the

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Speaker 1: name of the restaurant, Where is it located? What are

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Speaker 1: the hours? So the restaurant is called Melba's, easy for

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Speaker 1: me to remember, and it's on the southwest corner of

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Speaker 1: one hundred and fourteenth Street in Harlem. So it's three

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Speaker 1: hundred West one hundred and fourteen Street, New York, one

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Speaker 1: zero zero to five are Instagram is Melba's within us

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Speaker 1: are of them And I'm going bread and Butter in Harlem.

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Speaker 1: And that's why it was really important for me to

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Speaker 1: open up in a community that I love so much,

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Speaker 1: but the community that has changed a lot o racial back.

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Speaker 1: I remember because I moved when I moved to you know,

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Speaker 1: I've been in New York several times. I moved to

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Speaker 1: New York when I first started doing comedy in and

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Speaker 1: you know that you couldn't even catch a cab north.

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Speaker 1: You know, they wouldn't even they wouldn't take you north.

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Speaker 1: That alone past Hall of you weren't you weren't going there.

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Speaker 1: That That's why they had the gypsy cabs and was

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Speaker 1: really changed the game for Hall of and traffic with Uber.

628
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Speaker 1: Uber was picking you up everywhere, and so that really

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Speaker 1: really changed the game as far as transportation up there

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Speaker 1: because you you put the Uber in and they come

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Speaker 1: get you pick you're on the corner and you go back.

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Speaker 1: That really changed the whole cab service for for for

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Speaker 1: everybody in the city of New York. And so for

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Speaker 1: New York. Where I loved buy Hall OFM was that

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Speaker 1: they had always had these unique restaurants where you're going

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Speaker 1: in you get good original food. I called the food

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Speaker 1: that you have original food because of the fact that

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Speaker 1: it does take you back because so many times you

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00:34:12,600 --> 00:34:16,399
Speaker 1: can't good good vegetables, a good corn bread, a good

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Speaker 1: good good you know, it's just good food. So let's

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00:34:20,120 --> 00:34:22,080
Speaker 1: go through your menu and you putting that together. The menu,

642
00:34:22,080 --> 00:34:24,360
Speaker 1: because now you got me hungry, and I'm trying to

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00:34:24,400 --> 00:34:26,120
Speaker 1: figure out when I'm gonna get back up in New York.

644
00:34:26,560 --> 00:34:29,319
Speaker 1: And here's the deal about me, Melbourne. When I come

645
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Speaker 1: to your restaurant, I don't want, no, I don't, I

646
00:34:31,480 --> 00:34:35,160
Speaker 1: don't I pay. I'm one of these guys here. No no,

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Speaker 1: no no. You come over there with and then asked

648
00:34:37,280 --> 00:34:39,680
Speaker 1: me to give me the I got that. Now I'm

649
00:34:39,680 --> 00:34:41,880
Speaker 1: gonna really be mad at you because you're an entrepreneur

650
00:34:42,520 --> 00:34:44,880
Speaker 1: and so so I always go in. So tell me

651
00:34:44,960 --> 00:34:49,440
Speaker 1: about to but I'll tell you that that's the only

652
00:34:49,520 --> 00:34:51,920
Speaker 1: way I work. You know, Steve Harve and I when

653
00:34:51,960 --> 00:34:54,440
Speaker 1: we was traveling, we we we Hey. I got that.

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00:34:54,680 --> 00:35:00,200
Speaker 1: I got that because of course you know that when

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00:35:00,239 --> 00:35:03,320
Speaker 1: the when, the when the phone company, because you know,

656
00:35:03,440 --> 00:35:06,799
Speaker 1: I can't tell them I got that. Yeah, I need

657
00:35:06,920 --> 00:35:09,400
Speaker 1: I need to write that check. So I truly do

658
00:35:09,760 --> 00:35:14,200
Speaker 1: appreciate that. And when you talk about supporting small businesses,

659
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Speaker 1: especially businesses of color, the way that we can make

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00:35:17,880 --> 00:35:21,480
Speaker 1: sure that we stay in business is through economic development,

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00:35:21,719 --> 00:35:24,839
Speaker 1: which means making sure that our dollars circulate within our

662
00:35:24,880 --> 00:35:28,239
Speaker 1: community at least eight times. And that happens when people

663
00:35:28,320 --> 00:35:32,880
Speaker 1: like you come into these communities and pays. So I

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Speaker 1: truly and support hearing that from you, and thank you.

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00:35:35,880 --> 00:35:38,759
Speaker 1: We're gonna plan this out because everybody knows me. I

666
00:35:39,080 --> 00:35:41,799
Speaker 1: just went up to my board. Saw him in Seattle June,

667
00:35:41,840 --> 00:35:44,640
Speaker 1: baby up there, went up there. So when I say

668
00:35:44,680 --> 00:35:46,160
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do something, I go and do it now

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Speaker 1: because he get you down a Tuesday night so you

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00:35:49,520 --> 00:35:52,640
Speaker 1: can experience the live music. Okay, cool, this this, this

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00:35:53,160 --> 00:35:55,800
Speaker 1: is all good. This is a really really good conversation. Okay.

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Speaker 1: So so when you talk about you said in a

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Speaker 1: small kitchen, said about you said, it sets about a

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00:36:01,360 --> 00:36:05,440
Speaker 1: hundred people under the nine. Okay, the new restaurant what what? What?

675
00:36:05,600 --> 00:36:08,840
Speaker 1: What's the capacity going to be on that? I'm so excited.

676
00:36:08,920 --> 00:36:12,279
Speaker 1: The new restaurant is the spot that seats seventy and

677
00:36:12,360 --> 00:36:18,360
Speaker 1: it's seafood. It's all the food. Um, you know, instead

678
00:36:18,400 --> 00:36:19,839
Speaker 1: of going to city out and you can you can

679
00:36:19,920 --> 00:36:23,960
Speaker 1: stay in our neighborhood and come to Melvin's three minutes

680
00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:29,279
Speaker 1: away from the original space. And it's paying homage to

681
00:36:30,360 --> 00:36:33,360
Speaker 1: the black fisherman because when we change to this country

682
00:36:33,520 --> 00:36:36,240
Speaker 1: as slaves, a lot of us came from the coast

683
00:36:36,680 --> 00:36:39,640
Speaker 1: and we had fisherman skills and so we learned how

684
00:36:39,680 --> 00:36:42,480
Speaker 1: to fish, and so it's it's paying tribute to women.

685
00:36:43,360 --> 00:36:45,759
Speaker 1: We have a team of amazing women that are that

686
00:36:45,880 --> 00:36:49,960
Speaker 1: are partners with me and this venture. We have. Our

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Speaker 1: fishmonger is a female who were super excited about our

688
00:36:54,800 --> 00:36:57,040
Speaker 1: our some We have a female So that's doing the

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00:36:57,080 --> 00:37:00,000
Speaker 1: whole wineless who's from how Harlem That was just written

690
00:37:00,160 --> 00:37:05,080
Speaker 1: up in Food and Wine magazine. Chiha McCoy are executive

691
00:37:05,160 --> 00:37:09,040
Speaker 1: chef chef Mimi, who is phenomenal who lives in Arlom

692
00:37:09,440 --> 00:37:12,320
Speaker 1: has a huge sea food background. And then there's me.

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00:37:13,000 --> 00:37:17,279
Speaker 1: So it's women coming together to celebrate food and we're

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Speaker 1: super duper excited about it. It will be open the

695
00:37:20,520 --> 00:37:26,120
Speaker 1: first week in February. And while it's gonna be amazing, Okay, cool.

696
00:37:26,200 --> 00:37:28,759
Speaker 1: So you're timing my visit. You're timing my visit to

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Speaker 1: New York. I got that meets. I can do two

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00:37:31,520 --> 00:37:36,040
Speaker 1: restaurant stops, that's right, Okay cool. Now, just a natural

699
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Speaker 1: transition because I want to talk about you becoming the

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Speaker 1: first African American female to be the president of the

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Speaker 1: New York City Hospitality Alliance. Let's tell everybody what the

702
00:37:44,120 --> 00:37:47,840
Speaker 1: New York City Hospitality Alliance is not the hallm but

703
00:37:47,920 --> 00:37:52,200
Speaker 1: the New York City Hospitality Alliance. And while I well,

704
00:37:52,760 --> 00:37:55,120
Speaker 1: I've been a member of the New York City Hospitality

705
00:37:55,200 --> 00:37:59,160
Speaker 1: Alliance since its inception. And what it is, it's over

706
00:37:59,280 --> 00:38:03,319
Speaker 1: three thousand unstaurants, um all based in in the five

707
00:38:03,360 --> 00:38:06,520
Speaker 1: boons of New York City. Is everyone from Tao to Lavo,

708
00:38:06,719 --> 00:38:10,640
Speaker 1: to Nobu to Trabeca Grill to Sylvia's to b LT Steak.

709
00:38:10,760 --> 00:38:14,160
Speaker 1: So it is the most premier restaurant here in the city.

710
00:38:14,239 --> 00:38:17,840
Speaker 1: And we lobby on behalf of the needs of not

711
00:38:18,040 --> 00:38:21,160
Speaker 1: just a restaurant, but the nightlife venues, you know, from

712
00:38:21,400 --> 00:38:25,479
Speaker 1: from d L to um oh god god, I can't

713
00:38:25,480 --> 00:38:29,200
Speaker 1: even to Marquee, uh, you know, to the Gold Bar,

714
00:38:29,520 --> 00:38:31,719
Speaker 1: but some of the biggest and best places in the city.

715
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Speaker 1: And we lobby on behalf of of our of our venues,

716
00:38:36,440 --> 00:38:39,760
Speaker 1: you know. Um. The city sometimes under Mayor de Blasio

717
00:38:39,840 --> 00:38:43,759
Speaker 1: can be very difficult to business owners um in terms

718
00:38:43,840 --> 00:38:47,840
Speaker 1: of fees of commercial property taxes, etcetera. So we lobby

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Speaker 1: on behalf of of New York owned restaurants and nightclubs.

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Speaker 1: And this is the first time, not only that they've

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Speaker 1: had a female as the president, but a person of

722
00:38:58,840 --> 00:39:02,440
Speaker 1: color in general as a president. So I'm super duper

723
00:39:02,560 --> 00:39:07,560
Speaker 1: excited and just coming upon my year one tenure as

724
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Speaker 1: the president of the New York City Hospitality Alliance. Well,

725
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Speaker 1: I want to group congratulation to you, first of all,

726
00:39:13,160 --> 00:39:15,640
Speaker 1: and secondly for coming on my show. You'll be seeing me,

727
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Speaker 1: I know, Super Bowls of February. Second, So the week

728
00:39:18,520 --> 00:39:21,000
Speaker 1: of February nine, I would be in New York City

729
00:39:21,120 --> 00:39:23,760
Speaker 1: to visit both for your restaurants. One of the restaurants

730
00:39:23,800 --> 00:39:26,879
Speaker 1: I'm especially ordered that corn bread. Put that out there,

731
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Speaker 1: and then give me some good seafood at the other restaurant.

732
00:39:30,880 --> 00:39:36,080
Speaker 1: But again, continue your success. Um again, You're special because

733
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Speaker 1: you want it and you earned it, and I'm gonna

734
00:39:39,520 --> 00:39:42,600
Speaker 1: support you not only by a visit, but any social

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00:39:42,640 --> 00:39:44,800
Speaker 1: media post that you want to have please let me

736
00:39:44,920 --> 00:39:48,080
Speaker 1: know and I would definitely post the social media when

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00:39:48,120 --> 00:39:50,239
Speaker 1: your restaurant, your two a few restaurants open to New

738
00:39:50,320 --> 00:39:54,919
Speaker 1: York City first week of February. Okay, rast, I thank

739
00:39:55,000 --> 00:40:01,840
Speaker 1: you alone, will talk soon, but we'll see each other soon. Okay.

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Speaker 1: My next guest, it's the third time every year she

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Speaker 1: comes on the show. Like it's like it's like a

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Speaker 1: year because the first time it was twenty seventeen in December,

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Speaker 1: and we came back in in December again, I believe,

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Speaker 1: guest is a tattoo artist, business owner, painter, philanthropists and

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Speaker 1: social media influence and reality television star. She's the first

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Speaker 1: African American woman to own a tattoo studio in Los Angeles,

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Speaker 1: achievement noticed after being discovered on vich once hit series

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Speaker 1: Black and Crew Chicago artistic and creative handworkers included and

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Speaker 1: doing tattoos for countless celebrities and athletes. Please welcome again,

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Speaker 1: Katrina cat Tat Jackson. Hey, thank you so much for

785
00:43:02,560 --> 00:43:04,839
Speaker 1: having me back. Always so good to shop it out

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Speaker 1: with you. Well, you know, um, last time he was on,

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Speaker 1: you know you you just opened the tattoo's location and

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Speaker 1: what's your name of it? Tell us everybody where's that?

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Speaker 1: Where's that? The shop is called Enigma Tattoo And we're

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00:43:18,200 --> 00:43:20,920
Speaker 1: right in Beverly Hills or right on Peko and Robertson,

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Speaker 1: So it's a pretty popular intersection. Were right in the

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00:43:24,360 --> 00:43:26,680
Speaker 1: center of the city. Yeah, because because the reason is

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00:43:26,960 --> 00:43:29,799
Speaker 1: because you know, sometimes when traffic is bad, I take

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00:43:29,960 --> 00:43:33,040
Speaker 1: Robertson and can make that left and I gotta go

795
00:43:33,600 --> 00:43:35,759
Speaker 1: right past Peek Cold, you know, and I had to

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Speaker 1: stop because I'm trying to get to Santa Monica. Make

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00:43:38,080 --> 00:43:41,359
Speaker 1: that right so I get into Hollywood. So I'll make

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Speaker 1: that left because I always stay because she's gonna be

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Speaker 1: mad because I always stay at the at the International

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00:43:46,680 --> 00:43:49,080
Speaker 1: Intercomo the hotel, which is right there in Century City.

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00:43:49,120 --> 00:43:51,879
Speaker 1: I'm right down the street from so oh yeah, yeah,

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00:43:52,000 --> 00:43:54,839
Speaker 1: next time you gotta pull over and come on in. Yes,

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00:43:55,680 --> 00:43:58,080
Speaker 1: what's what's the experience? You know, because when here's tattoo,

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Speaker 1: because I know you have an experience when it comes

805
00:44:00,360 --> 00:44:04,239
Speaker 1: into your location. Talk to us about the experience. Um,

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00:44:04,440 --> 00:44:07,160
Speaker 1: you mean like the experience of like a client. So

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00:44:07,280 --> 00:44:09,239
Speaker 1: like clients, I know, you have your work on the

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00:44:09,320 --> 00:44:14,400
Speaker 1: walls and things like that. Correct. Yeah, so, um, everyone

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00:44:14,480 --> 00:44:17,239
Speaker 1: that steps from the shop they literally said, like, man,

810
00:44:17,560 --> 00:44:22,640
Speaker 1: the vibing here is just amazing, and that's what I wanted. Um,

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Speaker 1: I knew I wanted a tattoo shop. But when you

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00:44:24,880 --> 00:44:27,400
Speaker 1: think about, um, tattoo shops in the past, like a

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00:44:27,480 --> 00:44:29,040
Speaker 1: lot of them are like little hole in the wall

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Speaker 1: shops or you know, just not really like a super

815
00:44:32,400 --> 00:44:35,919
Speaker 1: comforting vibe. But like Enigma, when you walk in, it's

816
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Speaker 1: good music, good energy, beautiful artwork. I mean there's eight

817
00:44:40,280 --> 00:44:42,560
Speaker 1: of us and all of us are painters as well.

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Speaker 1: So people come in and they're literally like blown away

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Speaker 1: by all the art on the walls. And this is

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Speaker 1: like an art gallery, you know. So we've been blessed

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Speaker 1: to have UM two annual art shows since we've been

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00:44:55,600 --> 00:44:58,400
Speaker 1: open um. People come in and purchased the artwork for

823
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Speaker 1: their homes, and you know, they get tattoos. So the

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Speaker 1: tattoo experience is just very, very relaxing, and I guess

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Speaker 1: you could say scenic, you know, because they're you know,

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Speaker 1: they get to just look at all the art while

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Speaker 1: they get tattoos. We always have good music going, good conversation.

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Speaker 1: It's just a good vibe. Well that's why. That's why

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Speaker 1: I was looking one of the people understand that, you know,

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Speaker 1: you know people, all people have different version of what

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Speaker 1: they feel the tattoo. I've seen them, you know, you

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00:45:25,400 --> 00:45:29,439
Speaker 1: go down Hollywood sun sunset, and then you just see

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00:45:29,480 --> 00:45:31,600
Speaker 1: you look where they go. Oh, I'm not going up

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Speaker 1: in there, you know. Or you know, that's not a

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Speaker 1: place that that you want to go for the very

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Speaker 1: first time to get your tattoo. But that's the experience

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Speaker 1: that you didn't want at your location. And and and

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00:45:41,200 --> 00:45:43,719
Speaker 1: when we first talk, when you first opened it, that's

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Speaker 1: what really excited me was that you was creating an

840
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Speaker 1: experience and that the people will walk away and tell

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Speaker 1: somebody else about that experience. And that's really and that's

842
00:45:53,880 --> 00:45:56,520
Speaker 1: very in line with you know what what what you

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Speaker 1: get when you go to beauty slaws and uh, barbershops

844
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Speaker 1: and this experience. That's why you keep coming back because

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Speaker 1: you sit there and talk and chat chop it up.

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Speaker 1: But you're adding the creative aspect of artwork, which is

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Speaker 1: really part of your passion. Right. Yeah. And I feel

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00:46:12,560 --> 00:46:15,399
Speaker 1: like with any um, like with any service industry, whether

849
00:46:15,440 --> 00:46:18,120
Speaker 1: it's like um tattoo shop or like you said, hair

850
00:46:18,239 --> 00:46:21,399
Speaker 1: salon and Barbara, like you know, social media is still

851
00:46:21,480 --> 00:46:25,719
Speaker 1: prevalent these days, um, but really what matters is the

852
00:46:25,800 --> 00:46:28,400
Speaker 1: word of mouth, you know, and what people are saying

853
00:46:28,640 --> 00:46:31,080
Speaker 1: and spreading the word about about your place of business.

854
00:46:31,200 --> 00:46:35,200
Speaker 1: So I think that that's more important than than anything. Well,

855
00:46:35,239 --> 00:46:36,839
Speaker 1: you know, the thing about it is that though first

856
00:46:36,840 --> 00:46:39,239
Speaker 1: of all, you said social media now, uh, you know,

857
00:46:39,360 --> 00:46:42,520
Speaker 1: you're just posing left and right. Just that's just out there,

858
00:46:42,600 --> 00:46:45,640
Speaker 1: just posing, you know, And so so are you modeling

859
00:46:45,719 --> 00:46:48,160
Speaker 1: now or because because I just and that's a good

860
00:46:48,200 --> 00:46:50,720
Speaker 1: thing now because all your all your all your poses

861
00:46:50,760 --> 00:46:53,320
Speaker 1: are in good taste and and and and but the

862
00:46:53,440 --> 00:46:56,440
Speaker 1: but the response and the engagement that you're getting is

863
00:46:56,480 --> 00:46:59,040
Speaker 1: really incredible. And I commend you on that because you're

864
00:46:59,080 --> 00:47:02,000
Speaker 1: doing it more or I just stopped started following you

865
00:47:02,040 --> 00:47:03,880
Speaker 1: at the wrong time because you always pop up on

866
00:47:03,920 --> 00:47:08,920
Speaker 1: my timeline that posing again, posing again, and so so so?

867
00:47:09,320 --> 00:47:12,080
Speaker 1: Is that is that personal growth for you to realize

868
00:47:12,080 --> 00:47:14,200
Speaker 1: that who you all? You feel good about yoursel I'm

869
00:47:14,200 --> 00:47:15,960
Speaker 1: not saying you never felt good about yourself, but you

870
00:47:16,080 --> 00:47:20,759
Speaker 1: really are showing your brain and that's part of your marketing. Yeah,

871
00:47:20,880 --> 00:47:23,440
Speaker 1: thank you so much. I really appreciate you noticing that

872
00:47:23,560 --> 00:47:26,440
Speaker 1: because I remember when I first started tattooing. Um, I

873
00:47:26,520 --> 00:47:29,520
Speaker 1: felt like I had to um be, I had to

874
00:47:29,640 --> 00:47:32,759
Speaker 1: hide the face and you know, the beauty behind the

875
00:47:32,840 --> 00:47:35,239
Speaker 1: girl that was the artist. I felt like in order

876
00:47:35,239 --> 00:47:37,480
Speaker 1: to be taken serious in this industry, I could only

877
00:47:37,560 --> 00:47:41,080
Speaker 1: put out my tattoos, you know, like it's not about me,

878
00:47:41,200 --> 00:47:43,160
Speaker 1: It's not about what I look like. It's only about

879
00:47:43,200 --> 00:47:46,440
Speaker 1: my artwork. And I've built up my portfolio to a

880
00:47:46,520 --> 00:47:49,200
Speaker 1: place where people know that my work speaks for itself.

881
00:47:49,320 --> 00:47:52,680
Speaker 1: But um, thanks to you know, reality TV, people got

882
00:47:52,760 --> 00:47:55,200
Speaker 1: to see me and got to get to know me

883
00:47:55,480 --> 00:47:59,799
Speaker 1: and know who I am behind you know, um all

884
00:47:59,840 --> 00:48:02,479
Speaker 1: the tattoos and stuff. So now I'm not a place

885
00:48:02,560 --> 00:48:05,520
Speaker 1: where I'm comfortable, like I feel like my work has

886
00:48:05,800 --> 00:48:08,480
Speaker 1: spoken for itself, and I can also like I work

887
00:48:08,560 --> 00:48:10,600
Speaker 1: hard too. I'm in the gym, you know, like I

888
00:48:10,680 --> 00:48:14,360
Speaker 1: have beautiful tattoos on my body, and I've been blessed

889
00:48:14,440 --> 00:48:17,279
Speaker 1: for like you know, endorsement deals and beauty brands and

890
00:48:17,400 --> 00:48:20,320
Speaker 1: fashion brands to recognize me, and you want me to

891
00:48:20,440 --> 00:48:23,560
Speaker 1: represent their brands. So it's just crazy how things come

892
00:48:23,680 --> 00:48:26,200
Speaker 1: full circles. You know. I've always just stayed true to

893
00:48:26,719 --> 00:48:29,080
Speaker 1: just being the best that I can in any aspect,

894
00:48:29,160 --> 00:48:32,719
Speaker 1: whether it's working, you know, tattoos, my artwork, working out,

895
00:48:33,280 --> 00:48:36,239
Speaker 1: and um, things are just starting to comfortable circles. So

896
00:48:36,840 --> 00:48:38,840
Speaker 1: I used to remember I used to take pictures and

897
00:48:38,920 --> 00:48:40,320
Speaker 1: my mom would be like, like, why are you just

898
00:48:40,400 --> 00:48:43,920
Speaker 1: taking pictures for no reason? It's for a magazine or something,

899
00:48:44,080 --> 00:48:49,160
Speaker 1: And now it's for it's for an endorsement, you know what, right? Right? Oh, no,

900
00:48:49,280 --> 00:48:51,120
Speaker 1: you're gonna fire you. You know, you know you know me.

901
00:48:51,160 --> 00:48:53,400
Speaker 1: I'm I'm a professional. I gotta say an eye for talent.

902
00:48:53,480 --> 00:48:56,560
Speaker 1: I understand what brandings are all about, and I just

903
00:48:56,680 --> 00:49:00,680
Speaker 1: have noticed the comfort zone and then a a targeted

904
00:49:00,719 --> 00:49:02,799
Speaker 1: approach to what you're trying to do because I can

905
00:49:02,840 --> 00:49:05,040
Speaker 1: tell everybody all the pictures are tasteful, All the pictures

906
00:49:05,080 --> 00:49:07,759
Speaker 1: are tasteful, they all professional. But there what is what

907
00:49:07,880 --> 00:49:09,480
Speaker 1: it's done for me as a person who doesn't have

908
00:49:09,560 --> 00:49:12,320
Speaker 1: a tattoo is like and a guy. You know, I

909
00:49:12,440 --> 00:49:15,319
Speaker 1: remember when when it was created an ex computer Steve

910
00:49:15,360 --> 00:49:17,319
Speaker 1: Talk Show, when somebody came up with a tattoo were

911
00:49:17,360 --> 00:49:19,800
Speaker 1: called car washing. We had to cover those up. And

912
00:49:20,000 --> 00:49:23,239
Speaker 1: what you've done is normalized the process and you and

913
00:49:23,320 --> 00:49:25,319
Speaker 1: other people now you know, we know it's a it's

914
00:49:25,360 --> 00:49:26,960
Speaker 1: a big world of people out there who own TV

915
00:49:27,440 --> 00:49:31,759
Speaker 1: that uh doing tattoos. But but seeing you an attractive

916
00:49:31,840 --> 00:49:35,120
Speaker 1: person has allowed people to understand that there is value,

917
00:49:35,200 --> 00:49:37,840
Speaker 1: there's artwork. That's what that's what really, that's what it

918
00:49:37,840 --> 00:49:41,440
Speaker 1: attracts me, is like you are a walking piece of art.

919
00:49:43,000 --> 00:49:50,120
Speaker 1: Thank you so much. I appreciate that. It's and it's

920
00:49:50,160 --> 00:49:52,520
Speaker 1: really that's a that's an amazing thing to say that

921
00:49:52,960 --> 00:49:55,239
Speaker 1: did you you you you are a walking piece of

922
00:49:55,400 --> 00:49:58,160
Speaker 1: piece of art that of course cannot be bought, but

923
00:49:58,480 --> 00:50:04,560
Speaker 1: can't be sponsored for imercial indorsement. And that's that's beautiful

924
00:50:04,600 --> 00:50:07,360
Speaker 1: because the reason I enjoyed talking to you. Is that

925
00:50:07,880 --> 00:50:11,680
Speaker 1: Cat tatism Because I just watched your our conversation. I

926
00:50:11,680 --> 00:50:14,000
Speaker 1: remember when we first started. You know, I could tell

927
00:50:14,040 --> 00:50:16,600
Speaker 1: you our first conversation. You're trying to find who you are,

928
00:50:17,120 --> 00:50:19,919
Speaker 1: you know, and you you know you you walked away

929
00:50:19,960 --> 00:50:22,360
Speaker 1: from the TV show and you didn't you didn't know

930
00:50:22,880 --> 00:50:25,000
Speaker 1: what the future help. But you were strong and saying

931
00:50:25,360 --> 00:50:27,480
Speaker 1: I'm gonna make it, I'm gonna be special. And then

932
00:50:27,480 --> 00:50:29,560
Speaker 1: when you came on the show last year, I could

933
00:50:29,560 --> 00:50:32,120
Speaker 1: tell it when you when you opened the Tattoos Studio

934
00:50:32,280 --> 00:50:35,000
Speaker 1: and Beverly Hills, your energy was way up because you

935
00:50:35,120 --> 00:50:38,040
Speaker 1: really started focusing on and then this whole year just

936
00:50:38,160 --> 00:50:41,160
Speaker 1: watching you on social media, just watching you your personal growth,

937
00:50:41,239 --> 00:50:46,040
Speaker 1: your physical growth. You know, just now sky's the limit

938
00:50:46,120 --> 00:50:49,279
Speaker 1: now for you. You know that, right? Thank you? I

939
00:50:49,320 --> 00:50:53,520
Speaker 1: appreciate that. Yes, that's absolutely So let's talk about some

940
00:50:53,600 --> 00:50:56,040
Speaker 1: stuff that's going on that they sent to me. Okay.

941
00:50:56,120 --> 00:50:59,080
Speaker 1: Cat has been invited by the NFL Players Association to

942
00:50:59,239 --> 00:51:03,080
Speaker 1: this year's Super in Miami, Florida. Cat would designed create

943
00:51:03,160 --> 00:51:07,680
Speaker 1: Super Bowl inspired artwork and lead the annual National Football

944
00:51:07,760 --> 00:51:10,719
Speaker 1: League of Players Association Painting with the Pros event at

945
00:51:10,760 --> 00:51:13,720
Speaker 1: the local Miami Dade County School this year. The school

946
00:51:13,960 --> 00:51:17,200
Speaker 1: is Carol's City Senior High School that you guys are

947
00:51:17,239 --> 00:51:19,359
Speaker 1: gonna be How did that happen? How did you how

948
00:51:19,400 --> 00:51:22,759
Speaker 1: did that come about? And what were your thoughts? Did you?

949
00:51:22,880 --> 00:51:25,320
Speaker 1: Were you involved and saying this this is the actual

950
00:51:25,520 --> 00:51:31,279
Speaker 1: concept of what you wanted to present at the school? Um? Yeah,

951
00:51:31,360 --> 00:51:35,560
Speaker 1: this is UM. So this will be the third time, um,

952
00:51:36,280 --> 00:51:39,080
Speaker 1: the third annual Super Bowl that I've worked with the

953
00:51:39,280 --> 00:51:42,960
Speaker 1: Players Association. So I was connected with them about three

954
00:51:43,040 --> 00:51:45,319
Speaker 1: years ago and we did the first I forgot how

955
00:51:45,719 --> 00:51:48,880
Speaker 1: m it happened, but I met um Carol, she's UM,

956
00:51:48,960 --> 00:51:52,400
Speaker 1: one of the leaving ladies of the association, and UM,

957
00:51:52,440 --> 00:51:54,560
Speaker 1: they partnered with me and they wanted me to design

958
00:51:55,320 --> 00:51:57,880
Speaker 1: the painting. And back then it was in Minnesota, So

959
00:51:58,440 --> 00:52:02,760
Speaker 1: you started out, nic that's extreme. That Minnesota, Miami, that's extreme.

960
00:52:02,840 --> 00:52:06,360
Speaker 1: That that's extreme, so extreme, Oh my god. And it

961
00:52:06,480 --> 00:52:08,520
Speaker 1: was so cold that the whole time. And I was

962
00:52:08,600 --> 00:52:12,040
Speaker 1: born in Minnesota, so I know all about that code.

963
00:52:12,160 --> 00:52:15,080
Speaker 1: You know, I'm from Chicago to so um it was

964
00:52:15,200 --> 00:52:17,040
Speaker 1: freezing cold. We did what we had to do. We

965
00:52:17,120 --> 00:52:18,840
Speaker 1: get the paintings with the high school. We went to

966
00:52:18,920 --> 00:52:20,839
Speaker 1: the events, but other than that, we did not leave

967
00:52:20,920 --> 00:52:24,400
Speaker 1: that hotel room like we were. It was freezing, But

968
00:52:24,520 --> 00:52:27,080
Speaker 1: that was an experienced and it was just so great

969
00:52:27,120 --> 00:52:29,640
Speaker 1: to be able to get in there and really do

970
00:52:29,880 --> 00:52:33,160
Speaker 1: hands on things. Um with high school. Actually you know

971
00:52:33,280 --> 00:52:35,200
Speaker 1: we talked about it, but initially I was going to

972
00:52:35,280 --> 00:52:38,560
Speaker 1: be a high school math teacher, so obviously took a

973
00:52:38,600 --> 00:52:42,000
Speaker 1: different career path. But any time that I can you know,

974
00:52:42,120 --> 00:52:45,800
Speaker 1: be back in that environment of being hands on and

975
00:52:46,200 --> 00:52:49,640
Speaker 1: you know, impacting somebody at such a young age where

976
00:52:49,680 --> 00:52:52,200
Speaker 1: you can really like make a difference in their future,

977
00:52:52,760 --> 00:52:56,960
Speaker 1: that is what really, like what thrills me. So m

978
00:52:57,040 --> 00:53:00,200
Speaker 1: I'm blessed. Like Minnesota was um. The first time it

979
00:53:00,360 --> 00:53:02,440
Speaker 1: was so amazing, and then they asked me back the

980
00:53:02,480 --> 00:53:05,840
Speaker 1: second time when it was in Atlanta, also amazing. That

981
00:53:05,960 --> 00:53:08,160
Speaker 1: time it was at book or T Washington High School

982
00:53:08,520 --> 00:53:11,759
Speaker 1: and those kids were so talented, like um they did

983
00:53:12,000 --> 00:53:15,640
Speaker 1: the band came through and um, we just painted together.

984
00:53:15,800 --> 00:53:19,680
Speaker 1: That one was amazing. So I'm really really excited for uh,

985
00:53:20,040 --> 00:53:22,000
Speaker 1: this one. This one was gonna be Miami. I'm sure

986
00:53:22,040 --> 00:53:25,040
Speaker 1: the weather is gonna be nice. I finished my artwork

987
00:53:25,200 --> 00:53:28,040
Speaker 1: that I submitted for the high school that we're all

988
00:53:28,040 --> 00:53:30,640
Speaker 1: going to be painting. I kept it real seeing it

989
00:53:30,760 --> 00:53:35,279
Speaker 1: real Beach five, Miami Beach five. So um, it was

990
00:53:35,440 --> 00:53:38,520
Speaker 1: very um. This painting that I designed was inspired by

991
00:53:39,360 --> 00:53:41,719
Speaker 1: the whole Miami art scene, so I got to get really,

992
00:53:41,800 --> 00:53:44,520
Speaker 1: really really creative with it. You know, art basils in

993
00:53:44,600 --> 00:53:49,080
Speaker 1: Miami every December, so I think that, um, this time

994
00:53:49,200 --> 00:53:52,960
Speaker 1: is just gonna be I'm so exciting you are in inspiration.

995
00:53:53,080 --> 00:53:55,960
Speaker 1: Like I said, uh I, I've enjoyed and I will

996
00:53:56,000 --> 00:53:58,680
Speaker 1: continue to enjoy watching your growth. That's a cool thing

997
00:53:58,719 --> 00:54:01,640
Speaker 1: about social media. You could just see people an individual,

998
00:54:01,800 --> 00:54:04,440
Speaker 1: an individual trans you know, transcend, you know, trying to

999
00:54:04,520 --> 00:54:08,560
Speaker 1: start changing, start elevating and and being comfortable within their skin.

1000
00:54:08,960 --> 00:54:12,080
Speaker 1: And you do have a brand that's really really unique

1001
00:54:12,120 --> 00:54:15,160
Speaker 1: and very special. And I'm talking to mcgaka tree to

1002
00:54:15,280 --> 00:54:19,640
Speaker 1: Kattat Jackson. She's the owner of a Enigma tattoo and

1003
00:54:19,719 --> 00:54:22,160
Speaker 1: Beverly Hills, which is right there on the corner of

1004
00:54:22,520 --> 00:54:26,719
Speaker 1: Robertson and Pico, right there, and uh, I want to

1005
00:54:26,760 --> 00:54:29,279
Speaker 1: know she's doing a great event. Third year with the

1006
00:54:29,400 --> 00:54:34,080
Speaker 1: National Football League Players Association painting with the pros. Again.

1007
00:54:34,200 --> 00:54:35,880
Speaker 1: I always want to appreciate you taking the time to

1008
00:54:35,920 --> 00:54:37,919
Speaker 1: be on my show. But know this, it's our third

1009
00:54:38,000 --> 00:54:42,880
Speaker 1: year talking you know, off air, I'll promote anything for you.

1010
00:54:43,080 --> 00:54:45,000
Speaker 1: You not have not used me because I just want

1011
00:54:45,040 --> 00:54:46,600
Speaker 1: to let you know a lot of people understand why

1012
00:54:46,600 --> 00:54:50,080
Speaker 1: I created money making conversation. Money making conversation is I

1013
00:54:50,200 --> 00:54:53,080
Speaker 1: know my brand, and I know my brand grows just

1014
00:54:53,160 --> 00:54:56,960
Speaker 1: a certain I reached females of my follows a female,

1015
00:54:57,280 --> 00:54:59,680
Speaker 1: so no, I'm reaching the target that you there will

1016
00:54:59,719 --> 00:55:02,160
Speaker 1: be are relatable to you. And so I always use

1017
00:55:02,280 --> 00:55:04,560
Speaker 1: me in a good way to help build your brand.

1018
00:55:04,640 --> 00:55:06,839
Speaker 1: And if you ever need any advice, always hook up

1019
00:55:07,080 --> 00:55:09,800
Speaker 1: calls somebody that they're connect me because you've got access

1020
00:55:09,840 --> 00:55:13,440
Speaker 1: to me like that. Okay, catch absolutely, I appreciate that.

1021
00:55:13,680 --> 00:55:15,480
Speaker 1: And look, we got to make a promise to each other.

1022
00:55:15,520 --> 00:55:17,920
Speaker 1: When you're in l a better come by. And when

1023
00:55:17,920 --> 00:55:22,480
Speaker 1: I'm in Atlanta, I'm stopping by. Promise done deal. And

1024
00:55:22,520 --> 00:55:24,279
Speaker 1: you might see me in Miami, so I know because

1025
00:55:24,280 --> 00:55:26,080
Speaker 1: Steven and Smith talking about he's going down there, so

1026
00:55:26,400 --> 00:55:28,080
Speaker 1: you might and not know. I know, and I know

1027
00:55:28,200 --> 00:55:30,839
Speaker 1: the president of the Players Association. I know I would

1028
00:55:30,840 --> 00:55:32,840
Speaker 1: ask him so he can't get me in on anything

1029
00:55:32,920 --> 00:55:35,040
Speaker 1: I need. And I got Troy Advance and he's the

1030
00:55:35,120 --> 00:55:37,239
Speaker 1: vice president of Operations. I know he'll give me in

1031
00:55:37,320 --> 00:55:39,319
Speaker 1: so you may see me in Miami and we take

1032
00:55:39,360 --> 00:55:43,359
Speaker 1: herself together. We take herself together. Okay, absolutely, stay strong.

1033
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Speaker 1: I appreciate you and we will be talking soon. Money

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Speaker 1: Making Conversations continues online at www dot money Making Conversations

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